The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #321: Full Moon Retrospective #1 - Puppet Master (1989) & Dollman (1991)

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

This week, we are joined by Super Marcey and Professor Batch from Tubi Tuesdays, to begin our dive into Full Moon Features with Puppet Master and Dollman. Cool of the Week includes Thor: Love And Thunder, DC Versus Vampires, In Search of Darkness 2, The Boys, and Shrimp on the Barbie. Trailers are Day Shift and Orphan: First Kill. The podcast spotlight shines on "Uy Que Horror!" Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Welcome back, one and all from around the world. You have found the fabulous horror returns. And it really is a worldwide event. We've got Canadians in the house. We've got Australians. in the house. We've got Alaskans in the house, which

if you can believe the new billboards, Brian, you guys are about to become part of Russia again? Is that any truth to that? Or is that just propaganda? Who knows? I don't fall none of that.

Yeah, they've got billboards over there, man. On the edge of Russia, it says take back Alaska. Who knows? man, but here in the States, I'm dealing with my second case of COVID, guys. I know. Yeah, I think this might be that wonderful BA2 variant, but I think I'm on the, I think I'm on the, on the end of it.

Thank God for having gotten some shots, but so much for being bulletproof, I guess, Brian. Told you. Be careful. Well, let's see. We've been, grandsons in 10. So we've been to Dave and Busters twice. And of course, you know, all those games are thoroughly washed down between each usage. Oh, yeah. I clean those games every five minutes. Oh, yeah.

Many trips to the water park. And I started going to the, as I was telling a batch, I started going to the gym again. So, you know, I was asking for it. Probably should have gotten a booster last month. But fucking, maybe I'm good for at least a week now. So what's up with you guys? What's up with 2B Tuesdays? Every time we say that, I think we have to pay you guys 0.0006 of a cent or something.

Yes, you do. Yes. You got paid? Yes, 2B Tuesday is the home of what Transers 2 most recently? Or is there something beyond that? Yes, that was the last week's episode. And coming up this week, we step into the world of Australia with Shrimp on the Barbie starring Cheat.

I remember that one. I will say this about this movie. We went in expecting it to be God awful. Uh-huh. And it's not that bad. It's almost a homework film. It was. It does have, I mean, anything with Cheech can't be horrible, right?

No. No. everything even spy kids that was good I remember not all the spike kids I'll argue with you on that one but oh man yeah so what a fun episode that was and then

yeah so that's coming up this week and then next week it is our two year anniversary show so very excited I can't believe we've been doing this dumpster fire for like two years I know it's not a dumpster fire man. It's the absolute best. It's the best to be to be podcast on the web. I can I can

attest to that. Or at least the number one podcast hosted by two Australians and one Canadian. And sometimes featuring celebrities. Tell us about that experience. How was that guys? Oh, well, I mean, it is it's having a celebrity with me every week. But are. It's in her contract. Batch, who did we actually get on the show? We got Lloyd freaking Coffin on that show. I still don't know how we did it.

Me either. You did it, and it was a hell of a fun show. And that dude, man, I thought we said things to potentially get us in trouble. This dude just is unfiltered to the extreme, isn't he? Oh, yeah. I think more impressive than us. We got him to show up twice to, to just to do the whole episode.

We had to film in two parts. But definitely, I think, it's the highlight of the show, and it kind of set us on a new trajectory. Nice. It was pretty epic. Recommend if you can get Lloyd Kaufman for your podcast. Yeah. Well, we'll, I think we're trying to get,

who are we trying to get lined up, Brian? That we had somebody in our sights right now. Still trying to get Lance Henriksen still. Oh, yeah. That'll happen as long as we can get them away from the Frightmare handler, I guess, right? Yeah. Our dream get would be Eric Roberts. Yes.

Oh, I think you guys can make that happen. I mean, that dude's got to be written all over him. Well, as someone who's day job is working in the cannabis industry, I'm pretty sure I can get him. Yeah, that's how dream guest is Eric. Okay. So we're going to make it happen somehow. I would be very shocked if it didn't. Brian, what's up with you, man?

Has adjusting to the job and everything? Yeah, you know, being up at 6 in the morning. I'm not a morning person, but I make it. Yeah. I feel you. Just a matter of adjusting, right? Eventually. Eventually you'll become a morning person.

Probably not. You never do. You just tolerate it. Great barrels of caffeine work for me. Yeah. Yeah. What are you drinking, Marcy? Is that the green fairy?

This is a drink straight from Nilbog from Troll 2. Okay. It looks like it. Or it might be something the Hulk made me. I'm not sure. I just hope it's not a Hulk urine test. It could be. I mean.

Is that how she held got her powers? I mean, I'm hoping that's how I'm going to get my powers. All right. Next thing you know, Marcy is going to be saying, check, please, and lifting guys up and carrying them home. If I could do that, that would be awesome. Hopefully, in better CGI, though, than that trailer. How do you know she doesn't do it already?

True. Good point. Good point. All right. You guys ready to jump. Ben. Oh yeah. All right. We got some full moon features to talk about this

week, but before we get started, I think you guys know how the show goes pretty well. We've got a little thing we start out with called Cool of the Week and generally give our guests the opportunity to go first. Batch. What's your Cool of the Week?

Well, in honor of the being on the horror returns, I picked a little comic recently the first two collect editions of DC versus vampires. So DC is doing a little 12 issue miniseries where basically, it's set in like another alternate universe

where basically vampires just invade, pretty much everyone gets turned almost instantly. Like Batman gets taken out right away. Okay. So I always respect like one of their stories, like even like Deceas almost started the same way, where Batman gets taken out right away.

Because you know if Batman's around, Batman's going to figure this shit out and Batman's going to win. So I love that this series actually is a big shocking moment. When you see the fact that Halger and Green Lantern has been turned into a vampire, he takes Jan from the Wonder Twins, puts him in a giant blender, and makes a smoothie out of him. Jesus Christ. And then drinks it from a coffee cup.

Wow. That sets the tone for what this series is highly, highly recommended. And I love that the first two collected edition, each issue collects the first three issues in the miniseries. So the first one almost has a lost boys homage for the cover. Okay. And the second one is the breakfast club. Oh, yeah.

Where do they get the breakfast club from? I don't know. But I think that's just going to be the tone they're going to use for their collect edition. So definitely recommend that. That's my goal of the week. So the Wonder Twins didn't have much of a chance for their powers to activate, did they? No, but Hal made the joke that it tastes a little watery.

Oh. Oh, boy. Oh, man. All right. Well, that's, it's been a while since we've had a comic on, so that's always good. Marcy, what do you, what do you want to bring to the table this week? Basically, I'm copying Bede from last week's episode. After his talk about In Search of Darkness Part 2, the documentary that's on Shudder,

I decided I would then watch it. And, yeah, it was really damn. good. To so many films that they discuss and I'm like, I haven't seen it or I need to see it. And just who they get to talk on there. Like Chris Jericho is on there talking about horror movies. I'm like, what the fuck is this? It's really cool.

And yeah, besides like Chris Jericho being on there, the guy that does the YouTube channel Good Bad Flicks, which has been around for years, like I don't know. what he looks like and then I realized he's actually one of the people talking on there. So that was really cool. Much like feed, I highly recommend In Search of Darkness part two. And I am going to give a call of the week to Shrimp on the Barbie because as I said earlier, it wasn't that bad. We actually had a lot of fun watching that film. So I've got to give it props. Honestly, it wasn't that bad. I've seen a lot worse where they probably should have credited. it from Alan Smithy.

So. Okay. Well, I mean, I'm sure we've all seen a lot worse, but haven't we also all seen a lot? Okay, maybe I'm thinking of a different movie. I have not seen. When did this thing come out? Late 80s, early 90s, maybe, would you say? I think it was 1990, I think.

Okay. All right. It was that era when Cheech was making those movies without Tommy Chong. You wanted to separate himself with the weird humor? Sure. Like, what was it the one he said? I was born in East L.A. or whatever.

Born and this the way. Okay. Is this the one where he took a chicken and he was going, Amadeus, Amadeus. Rock me, Amade, I guess not. No, this is the one where he was a Pakistani Elvis impersonator.

Yes. Okay. I don't know why. Brian, do you remember this one? I've not seen it in, I don't know, years. Yeah, I mean, the premise is, it's like the reverse crocodile Dundee.

So you have, right. Teach coming to Australia. The classic crock out of water. Yeah, he's the crock out of water. But then he gets involved with this family and all this weird stuff. It's, I don't know, but Vernon Wells, who people might remember from Armando as Bennett is fucking hilarious in this movie. Oh, yes.

Okay. And there's a scene involving nudity and a fish tank. I'm just going to leave it at that. Interesting. All right. And if you really think about it, it's the literal exact same premise as Sutherland Law with Polly Shore. But in Australia. But in Australia and with Cheech.

Okay. All right. Interesting. Anything else? I haven't done too much this week. Probably, yeah, I've just been playing a lot of games on Twitch. So that's also a cool of a week because it's fun. Nice.

All right. Brian, you want to do the usual best for last, or you want to jump in? I can jump in. I only got a couple things. Finally, got on Stranger Things season four, up to episode seven. Okay. I'm enjoying it. I think it's one of the better seasons.

Enjoy the new characters. Always love the music on it. And I'm really interested to get into these, I guess, the second half, which would be what the last two episodes. Yeah. And what other thing? Oh, took the family to see Thor, Love and Thunder. Had a lot of fun watching that.

I think it's a lot of fun. Yeah, it did drag a little bit in a couple of places. And I think they went a little too much on the humor than Ragnarok. But it kind of evened out at the end. I really enjoyed the end. I'm not going to spoil it, but what they did with the kids at the end. I thought it was super fun. Yeah.

My wife and daughter enjoyed it. And I think some of the critics are a little harsh on the movie. Really? One critic said, Taika Watiti's a pointless director. And I just don't know what people want anymore. Yeah. I think this whole phase in Marvel is very different

and people don't know how to take it, but it's like you need change to grow, so. Sure, sure. I had fun with it. Again, I think we mentioned on the last week Russell Crow's accents. And I was waiting for that to hear it and

I don't know what it is. I don't know. I don't. I have not seen it yet, but I love the casting of Hercules. Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah.

So they have several gods in there, right? Not just the Norse mythology. Oh, there's all types of gods because that's kind of the premise of the movie. Okay. And I also feel

with the introduction of Hercules, there's going to be lots more coming up. Oh, yeah. I'm excited to see where it goes. But yeah, I was waiting for Zeus the moment he spoke. And I just, I couldn't pinpoint what kind of accident he was doing.

but he was hamming it up and I loved it. Yeah. He's so much fun. He was having the best time, mate. He was. So what you're saying is he knew exactly what movie he was in. Exactly. Exactly.

So it's a good family, family movie then, Brian. It was good to drag the family to. Yeah, I mean, there was something for everybody. Sexual-orientated jokes in there. Okay. Kind of went over the kids' head. I mean, well, there was some Thor nudity, but... Thor nudity?

It's just his ass. It's right. That hot Thor booty. Yeah. Aye, aye. Yay. What was that? What was that?

Was that the high point of the week? Yeah. Thor ass? Yeah. High point. Okay. Cool of the week. Just making sure.

All right, what else, Brian? That's it. I had time for this week. I was going to start the new Resident Evil series, but I didn't get to it yet. I've heard it's not good. I'm not going to bother with that. I'm certainly not going to bother with it. I haven't seen the new movie.

I haven't seen the new one either, but I'm curious to see the movie, but I don't know about the show. I kind of want to re-watch, because I bought a box, the Blu-ray box set. of the Paul W.S. Anderson Resident Evil films. And I think it's also got some of the animated films on there. So I'll actually just want to rewatch all of that. Because I do remember enjoying a few of those movies and some I hadn't seen. So that's like a project I'll do at some point.

Yeah, somewhere down the road, right? Exactly. All right. My Cool of the Week batch is also comic-related. But I don't want to go too far in based on where you guys are all at. Any of you guys has been able to pick up any of this season of the boys? Oh, Don. Yes.

See, the whole thing. Me, me. Okay. I've got, I just finished the hero-gasm episode. Oh. Frenchie will be pissed. He missed that. Yes.

Oh, my God. Yeah, I definitely love. the little sarcastic trigger alert they put there at the beginning. Like it starts out some people and then it said, oh, fuck it. Everybody who has any moral consciousness whatsoever will be offended by many of the things that you're about to see happen in this episode. But we want to let you know we spend a shitload of money on CGI making sure no harm was done to any actual humans, animals or others. So there. So that was the way the episode started.

Yeah, I'm loving the show this year, unless Flanagan blows me away. Because I think isn't Mike Flanagan to have two series coming out before the end of this year? Because there's the House of Usher. And isn't there also a second one, Brian that he's working on? I don't think he's announced the second one, but I think the one you're talking about is the fall of the House of Usher. I think that that's almost done. So. Yeah.

I mean, unless that blows me away, and I pick Flanagan for like the fourth time out of the last five years, I'm, boys is going to be my favorite TV show of the year. And there's definitely something in it for everybody. I love the way that they do the, and I don't know how much of this is Garth in us, because I don't read a lot of the books. I understand they make a lot of changes, you know, versus the current team working on it. I've read the search material. And there's enough.

the spirit of the original hero-gasm from the original Garthanas comic in that episode. Now, obviously, some stuff they couldn't even show even on that show, but there's enough DNA, pun intended, to really pay homage to heroism. Okay, one thing I will tell you that I really appreciate Brian about this show is that these guys get it right in the way that I think the guys who do South Park get it right. get it right in that you don't kiss you don't kiss the ass of the quote unquote left you don't suck the dick of the quote unquote right

you make fun of both sides equally so all the political humor in the boys is is equally offensive to everyone and I fucking love the way they're able to walk that tightrope so oh wait till you see how it ends for the season I don't want to spoil it for you I mean, you've got to think about so many recent events and how it ends, and it's like, right?

Fuck. That's what I'm going to say. I think, yeah, look forward to hearing what you make at the rest of the episodes. Even at the point, you are, how good is Jensen Eccles on the show? Oh, he's so good, isn't he? Just phenomenal. I mean, everybody, I love the new, the Soldier Boy character, how it seems like it's almost like takes a little bit of Captain America

and a little bit of Winter Soldier but not enough to get sued and he's got that deep like gruffy voice. I'm like oh yeah. Yeah, I'm loving it. Yeah, Brian, have you seen seasons one and two? Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, you'll, it's more the same

just for some reason. This is one of those rare TV shows that for me, I enjoy, I seem to enjoy each season more than the one prior. Finished Umbrella Academy, that was pretty good. Got a little silly and far-fetched toward the end, and I think they didn't quite know

where they wanted to go with the plot there in the finale. You're not looking forward to Walking Dead final season, part seven? I'll get there when I get there, man. I'll get there when I get there. Speaking of walking, let's walk on to some headlines, Brian, away from the Walking Dead unless that's your main story

no no we haven't talked Walking Dead in a while I got a premiere date I got some casting and I got some schedule changes premiere date Chuckie season 2 is premiering October 5th

very nice yeah hopefully as good as the first season I need to watch the first season Yes, you do. Got some more Scream 6 casting. A favorite of ours here at the horror return. Samara Weaving joins the cast. Very nice.

Along with, I'm going to try to pronounce his last name. Tony Revolory. Flash Thompson from the Spider-Man movies. Okay. All right. I know who you're talking about. Of course. What do you think about that casting batch?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't, maybe I need to rewatch it, but I just didn't. I don't think Screen 5 jelled with me the way it should have, being a big Scream fan. So I'm kind of curious to see what direction they go in,

but I think I've put two, like, pretty good cast additions. Like, Samara weaving is pretty awesome. Yeah. I like that they're taking it to New York and giving it a different location. Yeah, it needs to do that. I don't like that they're bringing back Neff Campbell again. Right, right.

Get a little tired, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, unless they're going to kill them off, but probably not. Or she's the killer this time. Oh, Jesus, come on. Let's see. Black Mirror Season 6 casting, got Josh Hartnett,

Zazi Beats, Lance. Oh, nice. And Aaron Paul all joined the cast. Science, bitch. So any British actors? I mean, has this thing become that Americanized or what?

It has, hasn't it? Right? Has there been any British actors since Netflix started producing the new seasons? Man, I can't really think of any, except that black museum. After that, I think, shit. Yeah, because you had striking vipers, and then you had the one with Hannah Montana in it,

and what was the third one? There was another one with, like, a guy that was in a car holding someone hostage or something. Kind of forgetful. That might have had some British actors. I think that one had some British actors in it, if I remember correctly. And we're going to finish off with some release dates that have changed.

Lance, you already knew about this one. The Salem's lot moves from September 9th, 2022 to April 21st, 2023. I did not know that changed like a whole many, all those months. It's not even coming out this year. What the fuck? Pretty weird. And with that, caused the train to Busan. make the last train in New York to pull

their release date because they don't obviously want to compete with James Juan produced horror movie Stephen King and all that so they have pulled their April 21st release date and I guess we'll announce their new release date. It's still going to come out next year

but not on the same day as Salem's lot. Which I think is I think it's a smart move. I don't think they're going to compete with Salem's lot. Yeah. How do you guys feel about the train to Busan remake? So we need one?

The only reason I'm giving it a chance is the director, Timo Tejanto. He's done stuff for the BHS movies, Lance. What was the one with the cult, the suicidal? Oh, yeah, the one that went totally bat-shut and stuff. started a real, real, real slow burn. And then by the end of it, the last, like, 10 minutes of it were just bad shit crazy. One thing after the other, like,

getting in the car, trying to back out of the Colt and all this shit and the big monster coming up out of the ground. And he did the, on the last one, he did the one where the scientist was doing, changing people and the, like, that was fucking amazing. Yeah, this could be a good, I don't know how he's going to stretch it out to what,

an hour and a half for two hours, but I'm interested to see. Yeah. If it's going to be zombies in the subway. I want to see the warriors fight the zombies. Yeah. Maybe the warriors will be zombieified, you know? Wouldn't that be crazy?

Get the old Coke bottles going. Zombies come out to cry. And that's it for right now. We got Comic Con coming up, so I'm assuming we're going to have a whole bunch of news dropped on us. To hear D.C. not talk about the Flash?

Yeah, they're in a position there. Doesn't exist next year. Yeah. What's up with that? I hadn't heard about this. Two words. Ezra Miller. Moving on.

He's fired, but they already made the movie. Uh-oh. Best thing they could do, they could do, spend the extra $100 million, cut him completely out of the movie, refil him with Grant Guston, and that movie will make more with, this the hype behind it and the fans actually wanting to see it. Then with Ezra Miller.

That's my two cents. Sounds good, but it's Warner Brothers, so. Yeah, who knows what they'll do. Right? Yeah, they may try to superimpose fucking Henry Cavill with a mustache. That's the mustachioed flash

or something, huh? Mysterio flash. So, um, what, uh, what happened with Ezra Miller? Was it sexual? advances that were unwanted or was it drugs or? Seems like a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

Who knows? Ezra Miller, allegedly, I don't know what the hell's going on. Allegedly, they have been terrorizing Hawaii by doing all sorts of things. Like, I don't even keep up with it. I just see a story and I'm like, ooh. Through a chair at a woman during karaoke,

got kicked out of a bar, held a couple hostage with their passport. Holding a young girl against her well, her parents will traveling along with them somewhere. Then all those years ago, he threw that woman to the ground in like Finland. So, wow. Sometimes you think you're reading the same story,

but it's just a new story that he's done. I got you, man. Kind of like the dude that was in the Transformers got into a little bit of that, like by trying to fight people. Yeah, didn't he? Instead of where in the world is Carmen San Diego, it's where in the world now is Ezra Miller. Oh, yeah. Ouch.

Where in the world is Shia LaBoff? Did he go to jail? I think he's in rehab again. Is he? Yeah, probably the best thing for the young man, right? He was going to want it to stick, I think. We'll always have Baye Le Schuf. Bialeshoef.

Bialeshoef. You know what I'd like to see? You know what? I think I've just figured it out, guys. Let's just stop the presses. Do you don't have to refill the whole thing? For fuck's sake, cross universes and put Craven in there. What do you guys think about that?

Anybody... You can mention his name! Is there anyone in the studio that can speak to the possibility of Craven replacing the flash? We don't mention the name. Hey, guys, how's it going to speak? Craven. Now, this, I was told there was a whore here. The store's the horn returns. Where's the horn? I'm not going second. Oh, uh, there's, there's, there's hores of plenty here, Craven. We assure you.

What's up with you, man? How have you been? Oh, man. Like, I can't believe I'm on another show. Well, I don't understand why you, I don't know why you haven't gotten your own, your own movie yet. I mean, you've been robbed. I pinch patch. I pin back. Everybody loves Craven. best podcast of all time. Number one on iTunes, but no, they won't make the show. So I just have to keep punching my way on every other time because everyone knows, I may or may not be a voice of Bratch's head.

We don't know at this point. We haven't wiped that out yet. Well, you know, the critics tore Morbius apart. You know, and if a fucking Morbius movie can get made Craven, come on, dude. Don't get me started on kick-ass. That is not a Craven movie. I know a Craven movie Yeah, I don't know what they're planning

A Marvel or wherever it is With kick ass as Craven the Hunter But no, it sounds really weird Okay, he's gone He's going to take care of baby Craven's so Okay, all right, all right Okay, well We're lucky none of us got gassed

That's all I'm saying Yeah, I think I think that the timing is perfect Now that Craven has left the building, guys, It's safe to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Oh, yeah.

And as long as we don't play the Toby Keith song, Universal won't come after us. So, Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about? All right. First one is Netflix's day shift. All right, let's see. A hardworking blue-collar dad

who just wants to provide a good life for his quick-witted eight-year-old daughter, his mundane San Fernando Valley Pool Cleaning Job is a front for a real source of income, hunting and killing vampires. This stars, of course, Jamie Fox, Dave Franco, Snoop Dog, Yeah, Eble.

Megan Good, and I guess that all that really matters. Directed by JJ Perry. Batch, we'll start with you. What did you think? You had me at Snoop Dog and Jamie Fox hunting vampires. Hell yeah. That said. Hell yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah, I've seen this trailer is out and about or whatever, and I'm just so totally in for this. The fact that Snoop Dog is going to be there like hunting vampires and shit and in the trailer he's like doing whatever I'm like yeah I'm in right he's dressed as a cowboy too yeah it looks actually like just a lot of fun

so definitely my kind of thing so I'm all lean actually did I see he had a he had a Gatlin gun that fired sticks did I see that correct? It's your look like it sorry Lance well okay so I'm I'm really glad

that I went into this trailer not knowing, you know, what really to expect. Because, you know, it starts out just looking like a regular action movie where, you know, Jamie Fox kind of plays your everyday guy that, that ends up in a situation where he has to survive or go after a bunch of people. And then he becomes a badass, you know, through the course of the movie, like he's a character arc. But then he goes into this house and this old lady walks out at the bathroom and she says,

Sonny boy, what are you doing in my house? And then he just fucking blows her away. I'm like, okay, what is going on here? I think it was really fucking weird the way that the vampires all seem like they can like bend backwards. I don't know what's up with that exactly. That seems like an odd twist. But, okay, we'll go with it. There's a series of books written by Brian Keene, the vampire world.

And in that saga, they're like, basically all the vampires are aliens. An alien landed like in Transylvania. hundreds of years ago and spawned out the race upon the earth that way so maybe these are like alien vampires or something that are kind of insectoid or something like that but

yeah I mean what's not to like about something like this I didn't at first I didn't recognize that being James Franco I was like wow who is this because it's not his brother Dave Franco oh Dave Franco okay okay well it's

the better, Franco? I don't know. I mean, again, moral problems, right? Less in trouble, Franco? Yeah. Well, I definitely didn't recognize him at first, so I think that's

pretty cool the way that they made him up to look like the, I guess he's kind of the nerd who's going to learn to be a badass through the tutelage of the two little one, Jamie. But one thing I will, I will be very, very disappointed.

we don't have Wanda show up at least once. You've got to have Wanda smearing on the, smearing on the Vaseline lipstick and saying, I got you. I don't know if he's ever going to do that character again. Probably never again. You guys familiar with Wander or did I lose you? Yeah, no, yeah.

I just wanted James Woods cameo to make it the same universe as John Carpenter's vampires. Yeah, anything's possible, dude. Netflix is spending a lot of money. right now, even though they seem to be hemorrhaging it, so, you know. Work out what they're doing, honestly. James Wood's a bit of an asshole himself, so. Yeah. Yeah, so they say.

So they say. But John Carpenter's vampires is a really fun movie. Yes. As a matter of fact, I did watch that earlier this week. It's on Netflix. You did. You did. I think it's better than people give it credit for, frankly. Brian, you're going to be checking this

for not on Netflix? I'm sure you are, right? it is on our schedule October 12th so we all will check it nice so we've actually got a Halloween themed movie coming out around Halloween what do you know yeah I mean

we'll see we're supposed to be getting Halloween Ends trailer next week Ah okay allegedly and I know some people are ready for it to end but

But I thought evil already died tonight. Well, it's a long night. Oh, wait, there's a time jump on this one, right? I have no idea. I think there's supposed to be a time jump on this one. I barely made it through the first Halloween, whatever. Redo, re-reap, re-imagining remand. After 20 minutes, I was like, falling asleep.

It's kind of boring. I don't get it. It's not for me. Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't just completely love it, you know? All right, speaking of time jumps, I'm going to jump into our next trailer. The orphan prequel, Orphan First Kill. Yeah, wow. After orchestrating a brilliant escape from an Estonian psychiatric facility,

which probably won't see in the movie, Esther travels to America by impersonating the missing daughter of a wealthy family. Oh, stars Julius St. Stiles, Isabel Furman, and directed by William Brent Bell. Start with you, Lance, since you found this trailer, hilarious. No idea. Yeah, I get no desire to see this, man. First of all, the first movie was, the first movie was okay.

You know, the twist was kind of interesting, but how are they going to do this? And they're saying something about four years later, four years later than what? Didn't this movie come out like 10 years ago? Well, you said she was 50 now or something. I don't know why she said she's got to be, right? She's 25. Well, wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. They didn't make the movie in the 70s.

Yeah, but the whole premise of the movie was that she was a, she was a fucking grown-ass adult. She's clearly going to walk around on her knees and they're going to see-gi her face. It'll be fine. It's a Paramount Plus movie. So they've got to come. Oh, great. Well, wasn't Fire Starter a Paramount Plus movie?

I wonder how you felt about the fire in this one at the end. Oh, my God. Yeah, they had to end the entire trailer with nothing but a room full of CGI fire, right? What the fuck? Nothing makes Lance more mad than CGR fire. Unbelievable. I'm still waiting to form the punk band called CGI Fire. I mean, there's an arcade fire.

Why can't there be a CGI fire? Come on. I mean. Marcy? Um, I don't, I don't know. Like, like she still looks kind of young, ish. Ish. So that's kind of.

Kind of creepy. I don't know. She looks very, like her and Julia Stiles in this trailer look very similar. I think that's kind of the point because she's supposed to be like a missing daughter or something. But this trailer had confused. me and lost me and I'm like I probably will watch it just in the hopes it'll be hilariously bad

because I thought often like was it really deep for me yeah but it's kind of like how how do you justify I don't know I'm just trying to figure out how I can't wrap my head around why they would make this sequel this long after the original

movie it just I don't know it's the style at this time yes you don't come Lance you don't come up with new ideas you look at what worked before and then you redo it and redo it and redo it and redo it

the only the only real drawback for me is the reason why the twist worked and the whole first movie worked because she was an actual kid pretending to be an adult now we're watching her that she's really an adult

pretending to be a kid that's true Now that you mention it, that's kind of fucking funny when you look at a life. I mean, I'm going to give it a chance, but in the trailer, sometimes there's shots where she does look like a child, but then there's a shot or it looks like she's playing a child. Yeah. Wow. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting.

That you check it out. I would pop poor D if she would just like Tim Conway adorfed her way through the movie on her knees. Playing golf. Just with their little shoes on her. her knees. Oh, yeah, that'd be great, man. And actually, the movie's a comedy. They don't show it at the trailer.

That's the twist when you go and see it. Oh, you see her legs. You see her legs in the back. Oh, God. Like I said, this is a Paramount Plus movie, and it is coming out. Can't find a date because it doesn't matter. Oh, August 19th. There you go.

Ah. So soon. Yeah. Kind of right around the corner, right? Hmm. Which it should really tell us about the movie because this was a theater release early in the year, which we had it on the schedule. If you remember, Lance. Yes.

They pulled it and now it's Paramount Plus. They announced it with less than a month ago. Unbelievable. I don't know what they're thinking when they do that. I honestly forgot this was even a thing until you set in the trailers. And I'm like, oh, shit, what? Yeah, it's probably, I think Marcy put it best. Let's watch it so we can see how badly we can shit on it.

Yeah, I don't know. She'll be bad. And I've seen her in a couple things since she's, you know, become an adult. And she's a pretty good actress. Okay. And there was set photos teasing that this will be a bloody movie. So maybe we'll get some decent kills. And maybe it'll be a funny movie with some decent kills.

Yeah. Well, it remains to be seen. but I'm sure we're all going to watch it out of curiosity. That's how they suffer us in. That's the last trailer. All right. Well, before we move on, guys didn't really get to collect any listener feedback

because I was more or less bedridden a couple of days this week. But we do have a podcast spotlight. Before we get into that, Brian, I wanted to ask you, since you went to the theater to see Love and Thunder. Were you there in time for all the trailers? Yeah, I tried to. I forced my family to get there on time.

They don't care about trailers, but I do. Yeah, well, I'm just curious if anything Earth Shattering came out? No. That you really remember? No. Okay. I mean, they showed Avatar, but I don't give a show. Yeah, I've seen that one six or seven times now. Yeah, I'm just.

I honestly don't care. Well, all right. Well, moving on then. So this week, the podcast spotlight shines on Buket Horror, a Latinx horror movie podcast. In this spooky podcast, Jonathan Atkinson and Eileen Clark

explore the often overlooked world of Latinx horror films. Each week, they watch a different horror film, whether it comes from a Latin American country, is directed by a Latinx director or has a Latinx star as its lead. If it's Latinx horror, Johnny and Eileen will watch it.

I have not listened to any episodes. This is the first I've heard of it. Any of you guys checked it out? I checked out their newest episode, which they did on Curse of the Stone Hand. Oh, wow. This is a movie from Chile. And what I really like about their podcast

is they go back and forth from Spanish. So it kind of give you a little bit of both worlds there. And very entertaining. Some of the movies that cover I have not heard, but I like that. It puts me on to new movies and very entertaining podcast. Sounds like an interesting podcast. So, yeah. Yeah, if they haven't yet, they've got to do Night of a Thousand Cats.

I mean... Oh, with Hugo Stiglitz? Yes. Have you guys checked that one out yet? I'll bet it's on two. I've never heard of it Oh come on Night of a thousand cats

About the guy that kills people Or tortures people And kidnaps him and then throws him into a big pit of cats That tear them apart limb from limb That sounds like a movie we would do It does but I've never heard of it Is that what happened? I don't remember it like that

Well, in like you man I remember there was like some cocaine involved and people at a swimming pool. Helicopters. Yeah, helicopters. Was this a fever dream from your COVID? Yeah. No, this was on the show, man.

You could ask Pedro. He was on the episode with us. Pedro was on it. Never heard of this movie. Okay. Maybe this was a fever dream. Maybe it was. He was ready to move on?

Yes. Yes. Let's do it. All right. All right. If, oh, of course, to give our shout-out show intro comes from Steve Carlton from The Geeks podcast

and our artwork comes from Natsulani. If you would like to help the show, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. We will let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount whatsoever and for $5 or more a month. Also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. If you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review.

And if you go to our website now, I had mentioned this before that my niece, Aubrey does custom-made dolls, and she does different horror icons, whatever you would like to order, and I'm going to be putting a link to her. She's creating a Facebook page. She's a young artist, 12 years old,

so help her out. I'll put some pictures of her work in the Facebook group and on the website, so you guys can check that out. Yeah, I want to see what she does. Yes, consider she made a pennywise doll for me from a Barbie. So she's very creative. All right. And now it's on to featured attractions.

This week we're going to celebrate the films of full moon features with puppet master as well as doll man. Starting out with puppet master from 1989. Psychics find themselves plotted against by a former colleague who committed soon. suicide after discovering animated murder murderous puppets. That's the worst fucking description of puppet master. I think anybody could possibly come up with. Okay, David Schmuller, he's got some street cred here. He's also known for tourist trap.

If you guys remember that one. Yes, I enjoyed that movie. Writers, Kenneth J. Hall, Charles Band, and David Schmoler. And we get into the trivia. Pinheads, Fists, During the... punching scenes are actually the fist of dwarf stunt woman, Cindy Sorensen, who had to wear the same fingerless gloves and sweater sleeve to make it appear that it's the fist of pinhead. Cindy cited that the most difficult part of those scenes was to keep her head ducked the whole

time while holding the pinhead puppet on her shoulders and give off false punches at the same time. Hey, guerrilla filmmaking, you do what you got to do. pretty much. This surprised me, because I thought it looked pretty real, but it says the Bodega Bay Hotel was actually a miniature, which was built about the size of a refrigerator. When the filmmakers found a perfect location, they hung the model in the air and used combinations of force perspective

and the way to make the hotel appear as if it were actually there. And they got me. It sure does beat most of the CGI fire you see today. No doubt about that. So, okay, puppet master, Marcy, what did you think? Yeah, I actually only recently saw this for the first time as my final movie for June exploitation last month. So I'm a newbie when it comes to puppet master.

And I don't really think I was all that familiar with full moon until we started the To be Tuesday's podcast where we've done many full moon films. And we're just getting started. Yeah, I know, right? Oh, I'm no doubt. I'm sure there's plenty. There's so much more to come. But I, like, I think the thing you want to see in this film is the puppets.

The animatronics or whatever you want to call them, the toys or creatures, whatever. But this film, like, is so convoluted in explaining a plot that you don't give a shit about. It's kind of very dull for the first act or so. Because for some reason, like it's, it begins like in Nazi Germany kind of stuff. Right. And guys making the things or whatever. And then it's like, oh, now there's some ladies psychics. And apparently someone they knew did this and that.

And I'm like, I don't give a shit about any of this plotline. I just want to see the puppets, quote on quote. Sure. Yeah, that's what we're here for, right? Yeah. When they show up, like, this is when the film is really entertaining. because you don't care about the human characters. Like, this is probably one of the better-looking four-moon films I've seen

because, like, these puppets and stuff, they look so cool. Like, as you were just mentioning some of that trivia, like, I was wondering how they pulled that off with that pinhead character. And it's so seamless, to be honest. It looks really good. It's so well done. and a lot of the characters in it are really cool. Like, the Leach Woman is fucked up.

That one, but they are really well designed. They look great. Like, it's really impressive. If for a movie called, like, puppet master where you're expecting a lot of puppets, there was not enough puppets. I didn't need, like, psychic characters and shit in some stupid plot. I think that stuff brings it down because otherwise it is a pretty fun

and pretty visually cool movie. I enjoyed it for the most part and it was fun to rewatch it after having seen it only a few weeks ago. Well, you'll be pleased to know that there's probably what, Brian, about a dozen more puppet master movies and counting. So,

plenty more chances to see the puppets. I'm sure they are. Oh man, what were your impressions, match, or is this an old favorite of yours? Oh, it's an old favorite. I'm an old fart. See, I used to work at a thing called a video store back in the day where people could come in and rent VHS tapes on a Saturday night. So you just, you go through all the horror section and what the fuck is this? Puppets.

Then you get home and you see, the movie's actually a bit of a slow burn. Because you actually get to the puppets. Yeah, surprisingly. Get to the fucking puppets, right? Just a bunch of psychics having dinner. Yes. Almost a hallmark movie there for a minute. Yeah.

Okay, let's go around the group. What's everyone's favorite puppet? Hmm. The Leach Woman. I think it's fucked up. It's so fucked up. It's my favorite. I'll go pinhead because it looks incredibly weird how they make his hands look realistic.

Right. It is so weird. I got to go Blade. Blades the elevator. Ah, yeah. Yeah, you beat me to it, man. He's got a hug at a knife. I'm a blade guy as well, and I love the black coat that he was wearing,

just like the strange men and the black coats that kept showing up everywhere. Well, and as we said, there's like 90 billion of these movies. Yes. Some get better and some get worse. But I'll have at least some gratuitous nudity. Yes. Which we're always thankful for. Yes, indeed.

and all different puppets. So if you think these puppets were weird. Yes, if you get seen the newest one, I think it's the newest one, the littlest rike. That's a very mean movie. It is, very mean-spirited. It's insane any of the...

Is that the one in the hotel? Yes. Yes, it is. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is a mean movie. But that's what I got to respect about it, too. Like, they went somewhere with that. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Somewhere you almost never see a horror movie go, right? Yeah. No doubt about that. Guess I'm going to have to watch them all now. So it sounds like Matt's just saying lots of waiting around, not as much puppets as you would have liked. Yes.

Yeah. What did you think, Brian? Is this a first time watch? Or are you an old old old man-ne-churcher's guy? Yeah, I've seen it a few times when I was younger. I remember getting to the puppets a lot quicker. Right. I don't remember constantly waiting to see the,

puppets. I don't remember psychic sex going on. That's right. Very odd. I didn't remember this movie being so sexual because after they have their little psychic moment, they'd actually go bang on the bed and the puppets watch them through the peephole. That's right. Look like they're enjoying it also. Well, got wood. I do appreciate the practical effects. Like I said,

I like pinhead because it really looks like he has human hands and it's hilarious when he's punching people. But it's just slow. It's slow. And I don't know where the plot's going when it gets revealed that the main guys brought back to life. You just kind of don't care. And you're waiting for the, you know the puppets are going to kill him and you just want to get to that. Yeah. And it's like that.

Yeah. And the leach woman, she's oddly sexual too. Of course, yeah. She kind of moans when she's letting off leeches. Now you know what's my favorite puppet. She's fucked up. Yeah, but the guy was enjoying it at first. Oh, yeah.

He was getting sucked. That's for sure. He was loving it. He was definitely into some shit because at one point he has panty hose on his head and other shit. but with it being a slow burn and part of the movie that's not what I really care about I do think that it's a classic you know it spawn how many we don't know how many sequels we just talked about and there's also spinoffs because of like Blade got his own little spin off movie which I don't care for that one either sure but it's definitely a cult classic and it deserves it deserves that status Nice, nice. Yeah, I was a big fan of the puppet master movie, you know, growing up and like through my college years. And I was actually, I was a big full moon guy. I enjoyed all those. And then they did the spinoff. That was about the time that, that, that I got married and my wife had, you know, five kids of varying ages, right? So especially my son, Mikey and I, who was when I married her, he was two years old. So I raised him more than anyone else. And, we would watch a lot of the, they called them, I think a moonbeam entertainment. You guys remember that, the spinoff that was a little bit more kid-based.

But they still had like, you know, like little killer dolls and stuff like that, but the kills were off-screen and things of that nature. So, yeah, I've got a Nazis or anything. Oh, no, they had a little Hitler. And what have I been? My son was saying, look, look, it's Hilter. It's Hilter. They should have made a puppet master babies, uh, movie.

You know what? Now that you just put it out there, it's, it's coming next week. Yeah, I've always had a soft spot for these films. Watching this for the first time in, I don't know, maybe 20 years here, it, it hasn't aged quite as well as I was hoping. And it, it has everything to do.

with what you guys have already mentioned in that. And I'm sure a lot of it was just, you know, budgetary. And a lot of it was because I guess Charles Band or the group were trying to build suspense. But they do take quite a long time, you know, to get to the action, the puppets themselves, the different kills and stuff like that. There were a couple of pretty, you know, decent, gruesome kills, which was nice to see once you finally get to them. But it was there, yeah. Yeah, kind of sparing. spaced apart and did think it was a little bit odd with the highly sexualized psychic that

was with the weird guy with the panty-ho fetish and all that other stuff but uh so everyone you know it gave you what you wanted everyone got their comeuppance uh at the very end there as as brian as brian alluded to you you could have seen that ending coming from a mile away that was that was going to happen i mean that was completely inevitable that it was going to end that way. I will tell you guys, since we're kind of almost doing a many after dark type episode here, Marcy, it would appear since we keep going in these sexual tangents. I will tell you guys how I learned of full moon features. Again, as I said, I was in college and I would go to my local porno rental video store.

Of course you did. Yes, and of course, you know, they didn't have regular movies in the front, but there was a little, uh, section in the back. Yep, you go behind the curtain and you, you know, you pick the real movies, right? Well, to be fair. Those were art films. Yes.

Sure. Yes, art films. But I did strike up a conversation with one of the workers there and he had said, hey, you know what? There's these new movies that are coming out. They're called full moon features. Some dude named Charles Bambon.

and I guess is the producer and he's put them together, they keep sending us all these fucking free copies because they want us to, you know, push them in the video store for people to rent them. So every single screener that he would get of any full moon movie, I was able to watch. So it was kind of cool, man. Yeah, in addition to the, I grab my porn,

grab my puppets. You're like, hmm, a puppet master and, ooh, Edward Pina's hands. That's right. So to bring the conversation, back full circle to the sexualized stuff again. But I did enjoy the film for the most part.

Again, just not it could have had a little bit more action for me. I believe that some of the later movies, if I recall, had a lot more action quickly, but they were much sillier. Whereas this one, at least the plot line somewhat made sense. So, not a bad movie, but

not as good on this view. as I would have hoped. It didn't age quite as well as I had wanted it to. You guys ready for scores? Yeah. Marcy? Yeah. So my score for this one is six out of ten, possibly horny puppets.

Look, for the, like, if you ignore a lot of the weird psychic shit and focus more on the puppets and stuff, like, it is quite fun. it does have its flaws. It's very convoluted. But I think like when you actually have the puppets and a lot of the action and the kills and stuff like that more than makes up for it for me. So I have a lot of fun with it. So six out of ten from me.

Yeah, good score. Fair score. What did you think, batch? I give it 7.5 puppets peeking at someone while they're banking out of 10. That's a good, that's a good score, man. It's a classic. It's the OG. It's the original. It's set the tone for the entire franchise. Okay. Well, I'll go somewhere in the middle with six and a half. Oh, I skipped Brian. Sorry, Brian.

I know. Let's see where Brian gets us. I was going to give a seven and a half, but I just remembered I got to take that half a point off because they totally misused Barbara Crampton. Should have been in the movie more other than women at. carnival. I've noticed they did that in Trances too. She's credited but she's only in like one

scene. Yeah. So I think what a shame. Just put her in like these small rolls or something. It's weird. Yeah, so I will give it seven creepy stuffed dogs.

They come back to life. Well, that's pretty cool then. So we've got a six six and a half, a seven, and a seven and a half. So something's in the water, I guess. So I think we all kind of recommend it, Puppet Master original. We'll move on to some others down the road. We'll see what Brian has in store for us, won't we, Brian?

Yeah, this will be a series on our show. All right, very good. So we're moving on to 1991's Dollman. A hard-boiled intergalactic policeman lands on Earth. And it says right here where he is only 12 inches tall, but I understand, Marcy, the ladies can attest. Am I right? He's all of 13, right? Yep.

They clearly say in the movie, the one lady says, I would love to have a 13-inch man. Mm-hmm. Director Albert Pune, also known, oh, a couple of movies we've all heard of, Cyborg, and the Sword and the Sorcerer, going old school there. Writers Charles Band, Chris Roghear, and Ed Naha. Jackie Earl Haley and Samantha Phillips were said to have slept with one another during filming. Well, hey, there, go there, go there, Freddie Kruger.

Don't blame me a bit. And in the first 15 minutes, the footage of the city and Arturis are recycled shots of New Chicago from Buck Rogers in the 25th century. So you save money. Yeah. Oh, man, Bats, are you a doll man fan? Oh, can we all just bow down at the brilliance that is Tim Thomerson,

Mr. Foolman himself? Oh, he does a lot of their movies, doesn't he? Oh, yes. This is a great film. We just recently did this on 2B Tuesday. This was our first Tim Tomerson film, but I got a feeling we've done two so far. So we're going to have one. Yes.

I love this film. I love that I love Jackie and Harley is the great as a bad guy. But it's funny that the director actually directed Cyborg as well because you can tell it's the same set location from Cyborg. Oh, boy. Save a little more money there. Yep. But I love the fact that he's got this giant, almost space dirty hairy gun

that blows everybody away. So even when he's like 10 inches tall, it still does mega damage. And he's just pissed off the entire movie. Right. So lots of fun, lots of fun then, huh? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's got like a 13-inch dirty hairy, right? Very much so. As opposed to dirty and hairy 13 inches. You got to get it right, obviously. I mean, I would never have even like seen this film or even heard of it if it wasn't for batch picking it for a Tooby-Tuesdays. And we had such a fun time watching this on that episode and re-watching it, again, like without doing the podcast was kind of sad because I missed our commentaries. jokes, but I, I, this was like probably my real first introduction to Tim Domison, because I didn't really know who he was. I've probably seen him on the covers of stuff,

but he's just like this angry, takes no shit kind of guy, and it's just glorious. He's like big gun. Even if it's microscopic, it does all the damage. It's so funny. And you can, you can definitely tell like it's quite cheap. they reuse sets and scenes and stuff, but I think that kind of just adds to the charm because there is a charm to this film. And I think it's the ridiculousness of it all because you've got little Tim Thomas

and just being this dirty Harry badass. And his enemy is like a head. And then you've got Jackie L. Haley. So it's so funny that he's like from Arturis, he's this alien, but on earth he's, He's small, so they call him a doll man. And it's just, it's so ridiculous. It's so silly.

I just, it's so much fun. I do recommend watching the film without commentary because, you know, I've got to plug the podcast every time we get. Of course. Yeah, more fun. Always more fun with commentary anyway, right? But no, it was great to, you know, have a rewatch of it. And, yeah, I think, like, I really enjoy a lot of Albert Pune films.

He's definitely got some incredible, more under the radar films, but you could definitely tell this is around the time of Cyborg because it feels very, it's very similar-esque with that kind of stuff. But yeah, if you're not very familiar with Albert Pune films, definitely check some out. He's got quite an eye for things. I can't think of the film that I absolutely love that he did. It's got iced tea and Christopher Lambert, I believe.

Surviving the game? Or am I thinking of it? No, that's the one where they're locked up in a prison? Yeah, mean, mean guns. Yeah. Mean guns, okay. Oh, it's so good. It's fantastic.

I haven't thought about that film in the years. Yeah. But you're thinking about it now. Now you are. Put in your memory. It's, yeah, for Albert Pune movies, yeah, it's great. But yeah, I think. Doleman is pretty solid and it's fun and ridiculous.

And I'll forever be thankful to Batch for introducing it to me for two to laugh. You know what I'm going with that. You're welcome. Thank you, brother. What do you think, Brian? I mean, come on. His name's Bert Bardo. He wears sunglasses at night. Oh, yeah. That instantly. He doesn't just shoot you once. He unloads the entire clip on you because he

clearly has dozens more in his inside his jacket. He's not afraid to call a fat kid a fat kid to his face. No, he's not. Right. Give zero fucks. I thought, I forgive the cheesy CGI effects because it makes up with the awesome practical effects. There was a lot in here. A lot of explosions, real fire lance, not CGI. Yes, yes indeed.

And just him as a character. And I like that he's kind of mentions he's been in the situation before because he sees everybody and he's like giants. I hate giants. So he's a man that's just kind of been there, done that. And I respect that. Jackie Earl Haley, I thought he did

awesome in this. And I salute him for trying to keep up that accent. Yeah. Doing his best, right? Yeah. I don't know what I was smart to say about this. It's a super fun. Yeah, I mean, this isn't, you know, this isn't a masterpiece, right? This isn't an art house film, but it is a lot of fun. And I love the, you know, growing up at the time frame that I grew up,

and my dad being a huge Clint Eastwood fan, not only the westerns, many nights, he would let me stay up past bedtime on a school night to watch a Western with him or to watch a dirty, hairy film. And it just really brought back a lot of memories. So even though it was an alien that was from a planet where they're much smaller than we are, the guy had as much more heart than, you know, many of the people that are full size here, as corny as that sounds. He was the true dirty hairy and even had, I think, a couple of lines that were, that were almost verbatim from a few of the dirty hairy movies, which I certainly appreciated.

And again, like you guys said, takes no shit from nobody. and it was, uh, it, it was kind of funny when they would, they would have, you know, just straight up action. And then they would mix in those little lines like the lady talking about wanting the 13 inch man. And I just thought it wasn't overdone. You know, this movie could have very, very easily taken that aspect and just done like, you know, just endless 13 inch puns or whatever. And endless tiny puns and endless short person or midget, you know, jokes or whatever. But they didn't go there. Um, they put him in the situation. They made fun of it a few times to give you some good laughs. And then they, they kind of let him do his thing.

So, uh, definitely appreciated this, this movie. It was, it was also a fun watch. Uh, so shall we get, shall we go with scores now? Yes. And I think, uh, this time I won't go out of order, Brian. So it's going to be, uh, well, fuck. Who, who went first? God damn it.

I said I wasn't going to. Usually Philip does this. I'm really resting on this part of it. Yeah, I think batch was fair. Okay. I gotta give this almost a 9 out of 10. Oh, no, yeah. Shit.

It's like a masterpiece. It is. Give this movie credit. It's like almost the start of the full moon cinematic universe. Okay. Because it crosses over with, eventually with Bad channels. Female character

they got shrunk down and that's doll man's girlfriend. And the sequel is doll man versus demonic toys. Of course.

So, sure. So this wasn't the last time we saw a doll man. So this gets a nine out of ten. Damn.

Wow. A full moon movie getting a nine out of ten. Only here, Brian. Well, maybe on TV Tuesdays you'll hear that. We're partial.

So. Are you going are you going nine marcy look my original score um it was like five out of ten it um it did get bumped it's been bumped up to a six

um okay almost tempted to go seven but I'll just I'll stick with six because um look for me it is a lot of fun it's so silly um it does have a line that I think like um I don't think men really want to hear it

went, oh, you're really small man. So, you know, they, when they did those jokes, they did them well. Yes. And I think that I had such a small budget, like visually, it actually doesn't look too bad. And I think they did pretty decently, the like green screen and stuff. So you could see he was a small man. Right. Yeah, I think the only thing I'm sad about is we never got Dole Man teaming up with Jack Death

from the Trances series. Yes. Which would have been amazing. To this day, batch? To this day, that hasn't happened yet? Has not happened. Tim Thomerson has not worked with himself yet. All right.

No. It's such a shame. But yeah, look, it's really silly. It's quite a lot of fun. And Tim Thomason is the man. So, yeah. I might end up bumping up my score. Who knows?

Well, that's not bad. Those 10 out of 10 movies in the end. nice. Brian, you're going to go hella good on this one or what? Absolutely hell of good, but I can't give it a 10. Okay. I can't give it a 9. I have to take just a half a point off, give it

an 8 and a half because I wanted more. I had so much fun, I wanted more. This is a shorter than average movie. It's about 120, 122. So I wanted a little bit more. It went really quickly. But it's an easy 8.5

for me. Nice. Nice. All right, well, I'm going to go with another six and a half. I think both of these are two-thirds good. And definitely worthy of rewatches. And hopefully we'll get some sequels. I think actually we've already been, I've been told very specifically we will. So we can look forward to those. Hopefully on this show.

So before you guys take off, tell us where all we can find you. What's up at the Super Network? That's where all are you at? because I know you do another podcast I'll listen to weekly as well, involving one of our web-slinging friends. Yes, so you can find me on the Pop 4D network with Web Tales every Tuesday and Avenging Tales whenever that does come out on Mondays. So with the web tales, we read all the classic issues that they made using Spider-Man

from the very beginning to present day. Avengers, we do the same thing. And we got another episode of The Wrestling Tapes coming up, so that show is a watch-along where we do a movie with a professional wrestler in him. So coming up, there's so many. I know. That's the, we got endless content coming out. So, um, so next one, I'll announce it here, exclusive.

We're doing Suicide Squad. Nice. Nice. Because his name is John Cena. So I had to add that in. But yes, uh, be sure to check out all the batches cool stuff and look up Pop 4D on your Facebook's. Let's give you a bit of that.

Um, and, of course, you can hear. me and batch in, I guess, in Canada time and US time. It is Monday evenings. The episode drops Australia. It is Tuesday morning, so you can find us on the Tooby Tuesdays podcast where we watch random shit on Tooby because it's a free streaming service and we love it and they have so much weird content. With Beed.

With Beed, unfortunately. No, I'm kidding. We love Beed. But yes, you can find all your information on the Super Network, the To Be Tuesdays podcast. Just head to supermarcy.com, which is S-U-P-E-R-M-A-R-C-E-Y. And if you just want to say hi to me, if you're on Twitter, I'm there under Super Marcy as well. So, all good. Yes, very nice.

And we appreciate you guys joining. That makes two weeks in a row for you, Marcy. I think that's a, I think that's a new record. It's a record. It's that green, it's that green juice you're drinking, I guess. It is, it is, it is. For the record, this is what we call an Australia cordial, and this is lime. Huh, okay.

It's basically like, it's like a, not quite a syrup, but you put a little bit into your water. So maybe it's kind of like a Kool-Aid type of drink, I'm not sure. All right. Feels very much like it's Australian, so. feels very Australian. Yeah. But I know I've missed a few episodes because of my own scheduling and stuff, but it's great that I've actually been able to join you guys,

and I'm happy that I managed to bring Batch. So it's two different. Yes, thank you for having me. It means a lot. All right. We need to venture out away from Bede and Bidt and Bkehs together, Batch. Yes. That's only in there because I know Bid's going to listen to this.

Everything doesn't always have to be bead-centric, right? Exactly. All right, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Hore Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. And I'm going to put it out here early. We will do our, yeah, as we always do our end-of-year show. Brian, could you work with me to really pimp this out and make sure we get the word out there to get some people to give us their top and bottom five?

As we get closer at the end of the year. No? Yes, I'll post something. Oh, we got to get some other, some feedback on that one, man. All right. Well, we do have a website. It's just simply thehorrorreturns.com, and you can email us at thehorror returns at gmail.com. iTunes, shit, Spotify, everything else.

We're there somehow, somewhere. But just go to the website. You can get to everywhere from there. Now, next week, Philip. Philip will not miss next week, guaranteed. No, he better not miss. It is literally his favorite topic in the entire world. This motherfucker, the last time I went and visited Philip,

he had me up until 4 a.m. watching some bullshit about some secrets of Skin Walker Ranch. Have you guys heard of this? No. Yeah, there's a... Sounds kind of corny. It is a reality. I'm not going to say stupid. It's...

There could be something to it. but it's a reality show, you know, quasi-reality on a ranch that allegedly has had several UFO visits throughout the decades. And this millionaire that plans to be a rocketeer, kind of like an Elon Musk Jr. purchased it. So you get to see them dig up possibly alien artifacts

or possibly crap that their S-FX department's planet. They just use some of the old, props from Doleman. That's kind of what I was thinking, but I did want to say it to Philip. But hey, you know, we'll call him out next week. So we're going to check out signs. And it's M-night, so I'll probably like it, Brian. Yeah, you'll definitely like the twist.

And we're also going to check out the brand-new movie, Nope. So until the whore returns again, everybody, good. Night. Oh. Marcy, you say it. Come on. Get us out. Good night.

That's perfect. Let's keep that one. Are we allowed to keep that one? Let's just use it every show. That's what I'm going to make. Yeah. Nice.