The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #322: Signs (2002) & Nope (2022)

Episode Date: July 24, 2022

It's Alien Week at THR! We check out Signs and the brand new movie NOPE. Cool of the Week includes Stranger Things, Netflix stand up comedy, The Boys, and The Baby. Trailers are House of the Dragon, Halloween Ends, Dungeons and Dragons, The Woman King, Tales of the Walking Dead, LOTR: The Rings of Power, John Wick 4, Shazam! Fury of the Gods, Black Adam, and Interview with the Vampire. The podcast spotlight shines on Epic Film Guys. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. One and all to the horror returns. Lance and with me, as always, are my co-host, Brian and Philip.

And we're hoping Kevin's going to jump in. It's kind of up in the air, but we got the line open in case he can, because unfortunately for Nez, he couldn't get a flight out to the big event. And what's the big event going on right now, Brian? Comic-Con, San Diego Comic-Con. I think this is the first one that Ms.

didn't go to in like 40 years or something. I don't know. Seems that way right. There's problems with the flight? Yeah, he said, what did he say? I got it right here. I think he said the flights were full. Oh, man.

It's like just probably like a 100,000 people at Comic Con right now. And he works for him. Well, that's when you work for the airline and you can't get a flight, that's saying something. That sucks, man. All right, well, as well, I know we got a lot to cover with speaking of Comic Con. So you guys want to jump into Cool of the Week? Yeah, I'll go first because I didn't fucking have time for anything. but I did finish Stranger Things.

Oh, nice. Okay. And I think... Were you satisfied? Yeah, I think this is one of the better seasons. Yeah, definitely. And they fucking Game of Thrones me. I got so behind certain characters. And then they...

I'm not going to spoil it, but they took them away from me. Right. And I was just like, no. Yeah. And I thought, man, these hour and a half episodes, I was just like, how am I going to get through these? I just, you know, even with that finale, that was two and a half hours, I was

just like, I was wanting the next season. I wanted to see where it goes, you know, what's coming. That's how you know it's good. If you want to see more at the end of it, you know. And I think these kids are becoming great little actors themselves. A lot of great performances.

Some, from some characters that, you know, were just kind of more or less side characters. they showed some range this season i thought that was really good and and i just love how everything came full circle they just connected stuff right back to the beginning the first season and yeah i felt like i should have binged the other seasons before i started that one but that'd be a task yeah that's that's why i was so late to finishing it because that's what i was trying to do but i there was like certain things that people were spoiling and i was like okay i got to get to it before because the master of

puppets was yeah yeah I know I know I heard master I heard master puppets upstairs like two weeks ago and I'm like what the fuck is by 12 year old granddaughter doing listening to Metallica that's awesome that's why I like

that right a whole new audience for some really badass music and I thank them so much for licensing that song because you know how they are with their music and Yes. And hats off to Cape Bush.

I heard she made, so far she's made like over $3 million in royalties just from them. Wow. That's great. Bringing that song back, you know. Nice. So, yeah, and the music, too, was just, it takes you back. Yeah. Music.

Because I don't really remember that song, but it's pretty cool. I'm more or less. I'm more or less remember the video because. The scene, not going to get into it, but the scene where Max is running and the colors and stuff was very reminiscent of the video that came out with the song back in the day. So I remember the video, but not as much as the song. But it's a great song, and it fits for the show if you listen to the lyrics and stuff. Yeah. So, yeah, great fucking season.

I'm going to go out on the limb saying this is probably up there with season one. Oh, yeah. I think so. And from what I'm hearing, there's going to be less episodes with the final season, but I think they're keeping the hour, the basically movie

length, episode length. I think they're like Game of Thrones final season, how every episode was like movie length. So, but I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it'll be a better, more satisfying ending than Game of Thrones. Yeah. That's for sure.

I'm contemplating on going to rewatch it because I don't fucking remember anything but disappointment. The final season? Read the books. Just read the books, man. But then it's hard to recommend that because the motherfucker won't write the last. That's the problem. He won't write the last two fucking books. Yeah, well, that's why the last couple seasons sucked because they weren't based off anything.

Yeah, I know. They just kind of went, went ideas he gave them. What is he doing? A lot of conventions, hookers, flow. Have you seen him at the conventions? He's fucking creepy. Like when he does, like, the panels with, like, the actresses. Oh, no.

He's like, how did you like doing that scene, the sex scene that I wrote, you know, and just being like, like, you're turning in a dollar for a second. I wonder if that's, like, a thing, because there was an episode of some show that Rose was what I'd care of me. remember the fucking name of it, but it was a stupid girl show. But they were like publishers, and there was a George R.R. Martin type character, and he acted like that. Yeah, I don't know.

Just hanging out in a wheelchair. It might have been the Comic Con panel for the last She's just like every actress who was like, Amelia Clark. She's kept to be like, she's sweating it out, like, oh my God. How did I survive?

this. He's just got icky vibes, man. Right. Now we got House of the Dragon coming out, right? Yeah. We'll talk about that news. That was cool, right? Jar Jar Martin. Yeah, maybe.

Jargeau Martin. Oh, man. That's it for me. I'll jump in, Philip. I don't really have a specific cool of the week, but man, hats off to Netflix. We all made.

fun of it and talk about how the shares have gone down and people are unsubscribing left and right but they got some goddamn good stand-up comedy specials oh yeah yeah my clue of the week is just in general uh netflix stand-up comedy uh yeah because they've they got some great shows and it's like it's almost like all the comedians have been you know in lockdown and stuff and i guess coming up with new material but no way to go and present it publicly so all of a sudden now you got all these COVID jokes. You've got all kinds of new shit to make fun of that you couldn't two years ago. So I'm just hats off to Netflix. What are some of y'all's favorite specials that you've seen on there? Dude, Tom Seguura. Yeah. He's got the, I think the disrespectful is, I think, is what it's called.

Something along those lines. That's my favorite one. It's not new, but that's my favorite stand-up of his. Yeah. I had to go Tom Seguer or Bill Burr. That's one of the ones we watched. Bill Burr at Red Rocks. Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, like you said, Netflix, I think the news came out. They lost like a million subscribers.

Right. And they're doing stuff now that they probably should have did in the beginning was like have a tier membership thing. And I'm not too mad about them. cracking down on the password sharing because I mean if you look at a business standpoint you know they're losing money so

yeah it just sucks that they pull that and like raise the price at the same time yeah same time right and at the end of the day I don't want Netflix to go because they're like the OG of the streaming you know as far as I know that was like

the first thing I got that was streaming was Netflix also they killed Blockbuster so karma's a bitch. Oh. Yeah, but that was actually Blockbuster because they could have bought Netflix

but they said Netflix would have never was never going to be anything. Really? There were some swivelers on those late fees sometimes. Yes, yes they were. Well, Ness says there's still one blockbuster left. Like he went to the one

that's called the final blockbuster or something like that. Yeah. Portland or Seattle or something. Yeah. Yeah. Did they actually rent DVDs there? Yeah. Somebody still does, right?

We had the one other one up here, but I think times just got tough up here, and they had to close it down. So I think, yeah, officially Portland's got the last one. Yeah. Well, yeah, the Bill Burr comedy was really good. You guys ever heard of Angela Johnson? She started out talking about going to get her nails done, like the career. chicks that do nails. Oh, you're so petty.

Oh, me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Special flower. I put flower on your nail. I put star, like stars scanning in the sky. And then she had some other thing where she went like into a Burger King and they wouldn't wait on her. She said, uh, security, security. Yes, okay.

She's still going strong. And then you had Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda, uh, hosted a bunch of, female comedians. That's a good one that's on Netflix. So they were in that new show. Ah, shit, I can't remember what it was called. The wife watched it, but they're still funny. And they had a lot of younger comics on there. There's a lot of good stuff.

Good stuff on Netflix. Yeah, I know they got a YouTube channel called Netflix is a joke where it's like they post a lot of clips from their comedy specials. I think they should really like in the future, like push their like stand-up comedy specials. more.

Right. Yeah, because they probably got more than anybody else. Yeah, seems that way. They're the new comedy. He's awesome. Right. Dave Chappelle? Yeah, Dave Chappelle.

The greatest. We watched that one when you were here. And there's rumors that they're trying to pay. Because Eddie Murphy's been talking about going back to stand up. That would be great. That would be great. But I heard the price is kind of hefty for Eddie Murphy comeback special. Well, as well, it should be, man.

I mean, yeah. I don't think Netflix should be. Doling out that. Yeah, they're already doling out $200 million for movies that are mediocre. Yeah, with the Rock and Ryan Reynolds and. They're talking about doing a sequel. Oh, you. Oh, yeah.

I was like just concentrate I was like just concentrate on like original stuff like strange things you know we'll talk about that in the news

I got some news regarding the the creators okay and it sounds like what I'm going to talk about news it's like stuff like that that's what you should be

concentrating on not like mediocre action movies that nobody's even talking about like a week after it comes out Yeah, they need a better marketing approach, don't they? But they got some good stuff there.

You know what I look for. What about you, Phil? I got a couple of them on a couple of different streaming services. Amazon Prime was the boys because Lance told me to finish watching it. And so I got back into it. I forgot to say I'm also back into the new season now. Yeah. that's pretty good.

Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, I finished it. I'm kind of sad that it's over now. Got to wait a year. Well, they got a spinoff show coming next. Oh, do they? So, focusing, basically, it's like college-age kids in us basically trying to be superheroes.

Like, they're saying if you mix the boys with Animal House. Is it going to be animated or is it going to see? No, live action. Live action. Wow. Yeah. Well, I'll definitely check it out. Yeah, why not?

And I finally watched on HBO Max, the baby. The baby. Hey, baby. Speaking of his name. You don't want to piss that baby off. So you like it then, huh? Yeah, man, it was different. And I think it was pretty cool.

I'm not sure what they were trying to say with it. Maybe that lady just really hates motherhood. Oh, clearly that when you get introduced to her, she clearly, because all her friends around her are mothers are becoming mothers. And she's just like, what the fuck? I just want to drink, smoke, you know, have sex. Yeah. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with everybody?

Eat mushroom infused candy bars, you know. She seems like the type she'd be down for that. Right. And she gets this baby that everybody, the baby comes across, eyes horribly. Yeah. Especially if they like take her away from her for 10 seconds. Yeah.

Yeah. So I, but it was, it was, it was an interesting kind of quirky, creepy thing. And, uh,

I enjoyed it. It wasn't like really horror horror. Right. But it was, it was good. It was interesting. Yeah, there's like horrible things happening,

but with a sense of humor, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely a lot of funny stuff. But it was like, British comedy funny. I really like the lead actress, too.

I think she's pretty good in it. Oh, yeah. I think everybody's really good in it. Yeah. All right. How many episodes? That's like eight. Yeah, I think it's a limited series, so it's not going to be multiple seasons. It kind of flies by. Yeah, I think they're about like, what, 30-minute episodes?

Yeah, they may be a little shorter, 30 or 40 minutes. something like that yeah all right well it's worth watching then and uh yeah that's that's what i got this week i just watched a lot of series that's cool that's wrong with that um brian how do you want to do this man we're doing trailer park mixed with news or yeah the horror headline trailer park okay so i only got as far as like mostly you're going to be trailers but there's a couple of interesting things came out lance we were talking about whatever happened to the Griner's movies. Yes. He showed,

Andrew Lincoln showed up at the Comic-Con panel. Surprised everybody. All right. I'm sure they were seeing. They instead, yep, he said he's ready to put the boots back on and the hat. And they are scrapping the movies and him and Michoam are doing a limited series,

six-episode series. Okay. And basically what they were going to do with the movies, they're just going to give it to us. in one series and that kind of up and what is that going on behind you oh it's a cat that's my cap I think either that or it's the Babaduke

so I think of a horror movie holy shit man what is that I'm glad they're going this way because you know the way Rick left off the show how are they going to get to in these final episodes you know

yeah that was super weak man the way he went out like on the bridge or whatever washed down the river and the trash lady allegedly found him or whatever oh yeah that was a weird character too man

they got into some weird shit yeah we'll see I started losing interest I was like who the fuck are these people so I think this will be a big series for them you know Michan and Rick reuniting

so there's that and then I mentioned earlier some Stranger Thing news I've heard their names pronounced differently the Dufor Brothers the Duffer Brother? The Dufus Brothers Yeah

The creators of Stranger Things have launched upside down pictures and they've signed a deal with Stranger or with Netflix there's going to be a Stranger Things spin off. Of course there will be going to be all original characters

original storyline but set in the Stranger Things universe. Okay. And they are also working on a Stephen King's series based on his book, The Talisman. Oh, wow. Which, if you remember, the book shows up in the, I think, one of the last episodes of Stranger Things. Okay, that makes sense, yeah. I could see that.

He co-wrote that one with Peter Straub, right? I think so. Did you read that one? Oh, I've read every one of them. Yeah, it's kind of like, I don't know, it's like a kid that finds this talisman that his parents had and allows them to go back and forth between worlds. But it definitely involves the Dark Tower world. Okay. So there's a lot they can do with that.

They can actually do a good Dark Tower story. Yeah, because that Amazon Prime Dark Tower series, they scrapped it already. I'm not surprised. I think they said it was too expensive. Which makes zero sense because they're making the Lord of the Rings series, which is like a million dollars of episode. Yeah, but you know that one's going to bring. Yeah, you got to die hard fans. Yeah, definitely.

All right, let's get into these trailers. House of the Dragon. Lance, you read the books. Yes, I did. Well, the book so far. There's supposed to be a second one. Yeah, hell yeah, I'm excited. I'd love to get back into that universe.

I just hope that, like you guys were talking about, I hope they don't go beyond the scope of the books. And I hope he finishes the second fucking book. Because this was like the story of, what is the House Targaryen? Is that what it is? How many years is this before the original series? Well, what's interesting about the book is that it spans a couple of centuries, actually. So you've got like three main parts where you've got, you know, the first, maybe each season will be a different group of characters then.

Each like dynasty of the Targaryens. Yeah, each dynasty. I think, I'm sure it goes back at least 200 years from Game of Thrones. So that's where I would imagine it would start. A lot of white hair people. Yes. That's right. Yeah, I thought the trailer looked great, you know.

I think this is going to, this looks like it couldn't make up for that final season, you know, give us a whole bunch of new characters to get behind that they'll, you know, eventually kill off and break our hearts. And the dragon look badass, especially that last shot at the end. So I'm in. Yeah. Well, and it's not like we're not going to watch it, you know? Right.

I mean, they get a couple more chances before that happens because the rest of the series was so good. Mm-hmm. There should be an opportunity to get back. You've got to give them a try, right? Yeah. That being said, I know these are probably based off of if this show is good or not.

There is six other properties based on Game of Thrones in development. Oh, Lord. Is there that much material that you can not really now I know I know one of the one of the other six is a is an animated Game of Thrones movie I know that that'll probably get made okay yeah that'll have its audience for sure so that leaves five series and I know one of them

they kind of announced was the the John Snow series oh I did hear about that yeah I did hear about that so that'll have nothing to do with the books then that was just people here it was introduced in the book so that leaves four other series that they could make Do you believe there's enough material for them to... Well, I mean, you could make anything into a spinoff, right? If you get good people to write it.

The only other books that I'm aware of that are in that universe are kind of like novellas. They're like maybe 200-page novels. There's like three of them. They're called Dunk and Egg. Yeah, that matter of fact, that sounds familiar as one of the series. So these could be like limited series then. Yeah, it could be limited series. The best I remember Dunkin' Egg is how they were protecting one of the kids that was of royal lineage.

But if people found out he was, they would execute him. So they kind of had to pretend like he was just sort of like a humble servant boy type, you know. So they went like from town to town hiding him as best I remember. But that might be a decent little story. But other than that, I guess just whatever their minds can spend. Yeah, it's the writers writing it. They're not pulling it straight from a book somewhere. Correct.

Yeah. So, yeah, we're actually, we're actually, hopefully it'll be good, tools. We're due a couple of books. Yeah, the only big book that hasn't been made into a series yet looks like it's going to be this one, the Targaryen dynasty. So we'll see how we go. I just cut the cord, guys, from cables. So I'll have to, I'll have to actually purchase HBO Max.

But as far as sure. Showtime. Showtime and stars, I'm probably not going to pay for those. Well, you can get them through Amazon Prime if you choose to get them. I know I got a couple of their channels. It was like, what was it, Amazon Prime Week or Prime Day or? Oh, that's right. They did have the Chimes?

Yeah, I forgot which channels, but I switched my Paramount Plus from their, their streaming act to their one on Amazon Prime because for the next three months, I'm paying 99 cents a month, and then it'll go back to it. Can't beat that. I wish I'd got that, right? Yeah, I just happened to be on there because they weren't really advertising that, so. Yeah, no, I didn't know they were doing it. But yeah, you'll have to get HBO Max because I think this is an HBO Max show.

Yeah, HBO Max is a must get out of all the... They've got some good stuff. also if you like trash reality TV F-boy Island is I was hoping you were going to say that because I'm not going to lie I kind of want to watch as much as I hate to admit it

I love it Ouch I had to put that in my Q then Alright House of the Dragon I'm not going to do synopsises and release dates but that one is coming in like two or three weeks sometime in August so not too far from here on to the next one she promised it jemmy leave

curtis we got it Halloween ends official trailer yes I will say off top I appreciate a one minute straight to the you know not really giving away anything I was dreaded and they were give us like a two three minute trailer and we got pretty much most of the movie but i like the way the trailer was kind of spliced in with the scenes from the original movie and not really giving away too much of the story and i'm hoping they finished the story off good there's going to be more trailers between now and then i'm sure oh i'm sure yeah i'm going to try to avoid the maxia thing Yeah, I actually People probably think I watch all the trailers

That I post on our different pages But I only watch trailers that we review on here So I do not watch The second trailer, the third trailer, the TV spots And I don't blame me I kind of like to be surprised I wish I hadn't watched the second trailer for note

But we'll get into that later tonight Yes, we will get into that movie later All right what do we got next? I think this was a very smart time to release this trailer for the movie because of Stranger Things Dungeons and Dragons on the movie.

I don't know if Stranger Things has like ignited more fan base into the game because I was never one of those people that were playing a game. I did have a couple friends that were into it. I remember the name being around. I don't remember any.

that was really into it at my end. I'm going to say, I was so into Dungeons and Dragons when I was in high school guys. Yeah, one of my brothers, he was into Dungeons and Dragons, magic to gather, and he tried to sit down and show me and like my head exploded because I had no idea what was going on.

Yeah. But I will say with this movie, I am in because I remember that previous one that for some reason, wants them to bring back Marlon Wayne's character from the other movie. I think this looks like it. I had forgotten about it.

I think this, it might not be a great movie, but it looks like a good fun popcorn movie. It doesn't look like something I'm going to like. It looks like it doesn't look like anything I'm going to be like, oh, this is going to be on my top, top 10, bottom 10 list. It's just, I'll probably forget about it after I watch it. But I don't know, man. I was, because I was expecting something like that. I'm like, another Dungeons and Dragons movie, The Last one suck.

And I was kind of impressed by it, man. Were you? I was like, oh, wow, this is fine. Definitely got some more money. Right? Oh, yeah, it is the girl from it. Yeah. Michelle Rodriguez.

Same fucking characters as every movie she's in. Are you going to come to a shot? with me? Oh, it did. Oh, okay. But it looked kind of interesting. I was like, oh, wow, it looks like they actually put the money into this. Here's the Dungeons and Dragons, Brian.

Yeah. I don't have anything, but. Okay. Toaster. Ready. I guess. Look his cup. I'm going to be slurring by the end of it.

Okay. But, uh, yeah, Dungeons and Dragons. Um, like I said. Honor or long thieves. Is that what it's called or something? Yeah. It looks like they're, you know, a group of thieves to get, basically hired to steal something from the wrong people or neither they're stealing it from the wrong people.

Right? Or stealing it for the wrong people, you know. So it may be kind of a heist movie. Yeah, I would say. It looks very marvely. Yeah, and there's a fucking owl bear. That's pretty original. Well, yeah, that was the girl from it, right?

They could change into that? Yeah, Sophia Lillis. Yes, yes. Yes. I told you. She's a big. I like her. Very good actress.

Everything I've seen her in, she's pretty good. I do remember when I would play D&D guys, I would love to play a thief because that's like a great character because you can be like, you can be like basically what's called chaotic good. So it's like you're good, but you like to play practical jokes on people. And if you see something laying there and it's worth a lot of money, you might kind of grab it. I take it. But at the end of the day, you're, you know, a relatively good character. You're just kind of chaotic or neutral. So I always love the thief character.

Yeah. All right. Next trailer. This one actually came out a couple weeks ago, but I wanted to throw it on here because it looked pretty fucking badass. And that was the Woman King with Viola Davis. Yeah. It's like, where the fuck did this come from?

I've heard of this. Based off the true events, this. I wondered if Had that feel to it. South Africa? Yeah. Was it South Africa? Trying to think

what are the characters from Black Panther? The Dora Milage is all female guards. Yeah. I wonder if they drew inspiration from this story. Oh, maybe.

Could be. Yeah. But it just what caught my was Viola Davis. She's a great actress, period, but she looked like a complete fucking badass in this, and she's actually in action scenes, fight scenes,

and just kicking ass. Well, yeah, you're used to seeing certain actresses in that type of role, but not Viola Davis. Normally she's more of like a, you know, subdued, you know, like the mastermind, the person that's running

the class or running the group or whatever. You would expect to see someone more like Angela Bassett. in this type of role, but she looks like she's owning it. That's for sure. Which kind of surprised me. I didn't think Viola Davis could pull that off. Yeah.

It's an old mean, hard charge and sergeant, man. Right. It looks pretty, as far as like the scope of the movie, it looks pretty epic. Right. Yeah, it does. Some money into this. Great photography. I don't know where this even came from.

It based on true events makes sense because it had that, like it said, it had that feel to it, you know? All right, Lance, this next one's for you. I know you're the big walking dead guy. The Walking Dead, the Tales of the Walking Dead, anthology series. Why not? Every episode is a different story.

Sure, why not? Why is Terry Cruz that big in the zombie apocalypse? What did she say? She said, what have you just been holding out with your protein powder? He must have all the protein powder. He just has his own private jam that he keeps all the zombies out of. He's a prepper. He just has a lot of protein powder.

Yes, I could be it. The cast looks good. I'll watch Terry cruising anything. Hell yeah. The cast looks good. I like the anthology angle. You better make an ad's vice reference. Sorry.

I like the anthology angle. Yeah. Is it just me, does this kind of look more of a polished version of the main show? as far as like the cinematography. It looks more clean. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they had, I'm guessing

it's probably like six different directors that are all given their own version of the Walking Dead. Probably directors that are fans of the TV show, particularly the early seasons and they said, you know, man, you guys have fucked it up so much. You've made it where zombies are just

weaponized and it's all about the people and all this crap. Let's get back to some zombie stories, God damn it. That's probably I'm thinking what this is. I just stop my head. Just stop my head. There might be a scene at Terry Cruz

just walking, but he's whistling the theme. Perfect. That would be great. Just a quick scene. He's waking up in the morning. He's making a protein shake. Sure, sure. He's just listening to old, old spice thing.

But yeah, looks like they put some money into it. I kind of have high. hopes for it. I'll watch this one. I'm not interested in it. That's only six episodes. Why wouldn't you watch it? I'm really not even interested in the Rick movie, but this I'll watch. Yeah. It's kind of like a love

love death and robots in the Walking Red universe, right? There you go. You're not investing too much. Yeah. I actually wouldn't mind if they were like half hour little stories, just kind of quick. I'd be great, man. Then if you don't like one,

there's another one coming right up. Yeah. Fast forward or whatever, right? All right. The Lord of the Rings, the Rings of Power. God, that first trailer looked so bad. This one looks so much better. Hopefully She-Hulk will learn from that.

Yeah, actually, I... They have to be fixing that, right? I watched this video of these special effects guys talking about it. Because everybody was like, why does the Hulk look so good, but She-Hoke looks so bad? and they basically said how long have they been doing the Hulk you know they got it down

you know yeah I guess that's true and you got it you got to work on the CGI you got to match it with the face and you got to get you know every turn and but I don't know kind of like when you have a horse

and you have to put X's on it before you're going to move it and then you tell how to be safe around it and then well I'm sorry I'm getting ahead I'll talk about a horse later. Well, they redid Sonic after there was a bunch of backlash.

I know. Well, that was a design thing. Yeah, I know. But most of this is a clean-it-up thing, because that looks bad. The Chippendale Rescue Rangers, they made a joke about the bad Sonic, remember? Yeah.

So, I mean, I'm a big fan of the movies. Not so the New Hobbit movies. I felt like they squeezed out an extra movie when they didn't need to. I agree. But I'm happy to go back into this world with all new characters, and it looks pretty epic. It's worth a shot. Yeah.

I mean, we all already have Amazon Prime, so. I mean, yeah, I'll check it out and see if it's worth watching, at least. How bad can be? You in, Lance? Lord of the Rings. I'm in I'll check it out I read all the books

why wouldn't I watch the show right how many episodes is it I don't have the information I know it's it's not going to be no CW I was about to say if it's 26 episodes a year for 12 years I'm out

what does Amazon usually do what 8 to 10 episodes 8 to 10 8 to 10 8 the boys I would say that and plus they're spending like a million plus per episode, so I don't think they're going to crank out. Jeff Bezos spending a million dollars is like me or you buying a fucking Big Mac.

Yeah, that's true. But that seems to be about the prime area. You know, the eight to ten episodes tell one really solid story and explain it really well. And it works. All right. John Wick, Chapter 4. Now you're talking my language. They finished off the T-Ey-South.

with him severely beating a man with nonchucks repeatedly. Yes. I'm in. And you only see a couple quick glimpses, but I didn't realize Bill Scarsgard Pennywise was in this.

I guess another assassin. I've seen one of the dogs, so we might get Holly, Holly Berry back in there. Okay. I could always go for a little Holly Berry. I can't ever remember the actor's name, but he was recently Scorpion and Mortal Kombat.

A great actor. He's one of the other... Eight episodes, by the way, guys. Sorry. Eight episodes for Lord of the Rings. Oh, okay. Sorry to interrupt. It's okay.

You were talking about... Just, I'm ready to go back into this world of John Wick and just see great... This is a character he was born to play. Yeah. Look, man, dude, seeing Morpheus and Neo together, come on and even that scene where he's holding a suit

and he was like are you ready like you just all you need is just Keanu just be like yeah right and that's exactly what he says yeah yeah that was the exact expected line out of that

and it just it felt good when he did it I wanted him to turn around and break that board and say something like whoa or something I just don't know how the Matrix fucked this up.

I know. See, yeah, I mean, I know that they're probably stretching John Wick a little too thin, but, you know, turned it into just a fast and furious kind of thing. Oh, let's not do that. Yeah. But, I mean, so far they've all been pretty kick-ass, and I'm definitely excited about this one. It looks good. Yeah, and another thing I like, they add to this mythology of this assassin world they're

end, they keep adding to it. And it makes sense, like, when they explain, you know, the little customs. Yeah. It just peels away one layer for each movie. Like Lance. Like an ogre. An onion. What's the show we reviewed with Jack?

Oh, the prisoner. Yeah, like, even like the little B.C. and you thing that they did with John Wick. You know, that's complete inspiration from that show. You know, just little things like that, you know, I think it's cool. so, but we'll have to wait until next year to see John Wick. Damn. It's okay. I can wait.

All right. I liked it. Into the DC panel, which. Boy, they broke people's heart because the big rumor was Henry Cavill was going to make an appearance. Uh-huh. Well, that didn't show up. That cock sucker you can't count on. He fucking with or without a mustache.

I mean, this fucking asshole, dude. This guy spread so thin with, what was the other thing where he had to have the mustache for one thing? And they had to- It's impossible. That's a great one. Yes. All right.

You guys talked in. I'm going to shut up. I'm not thrilled. You don't like Henry Cowell? I'm just not thrilled with the DC Universe movies, guys. This looks like fucking shit to me, to be honest. What? Black.

Black Adam looks... That too. It looks fucking horrible, man. No, I'm a... I'm a channel. I'm a channel Nez. Black Adam looks hella good. It's the fucking rock.

It's the rock being a fucking heel again. It's... You guys talk. You guys talk. Okay, we got the Black Adam trailer teaser. And then we got the Shazam Fury of the guys. Now, I think Shazam's a fun movie for the kids. The first Shazam was pretty good.

Didn't even watch it. I won't. Then you can't call it garbage then. Well, then I fucking refused. Let me mute my microphone. Y'all talk. All right. They didn't really give us too much on the story of Shazam.

I'll see that regardless because that looks like a fun kid, a movie detective kids. Yeah. But Black Adam, like Lance said, this asshole right here laughing. Yeah. I don't know why it took them so long to make Rock the Rock. rock a superhero. I mean, it's the perfect person to play a superhero. Yeah, he's not even, well, he's a anti-hero, more of a villain. So it's perfect. He can play. People have seen his wrestling. He plays the heel really good, and he's been wanting to do this, this character for like the

past 10 years. And I kind of like me and rock. He's scary. Yeah. And we get the, this, this takes place, uh, at a time when they're going to introduce the Justice Society. That's why you get like the older school character. Lance just rolled his, oh, we got Lance back. You don't want the Justice Society? It's like, fucking absolute garbage.

DC is a joke, man. And he's talking about, I'm just getting here. I'm talking to you. You know, he's like, I feel like I'm not really a hero. You got one guy in a red cape, and then you got like, Aquaman, and he's like,

fucking buff and I'm like in the fucking comic books I'm going to be buff he's the joke he's like the deep but that's the comic that's the old-core comic he is like the deep in the comics he's just fucking price DC figure out what you're gonna do here no I'm out well okay you're you're gonna make you watch it so it doesn't matter are you are you are you're talking about Shazam saying all that yeah all of it you know that's a child you know that's a child flash it's all garbage. Yes, I know he's a kid that got super powers and he looks like Chuck when he gets bigger for fuck's sake. So what? I mean, big deal. Speaking like that. He's a child. It's terrible. Terrible acting.

Horrible. When did you stop having fun? When did this happen? Well, you're going to pull out a doll and say point here where you got touched? Yes, I will. I have a Lance dolls on that. Sorry, guys. You just tell me where it happened. You don't have to say, you just, when I point, you just nod. I'm just out of D.C. guy. Sorry. I'm not really either, but I'll give both of these a chance.

I think the Shazam one is probably going to suck, but it'll be fun. It'll be a fun suck. Yeah. But all the first time is good, though. No, all kidding aside, help me out, Brian, Philip. If you guys have read any of the comics, who are all these other stupid little fucking kids that have all these superpowers that have different colored?

They're like Power Rangers, like Blues, the Blue Shazam, the Yellow Shazam, the Green Shazam. There's a, I'm going to put you on, I'll message it to you later. There's an animated DC movie that's on HBO Max when you get it. It kind of breaks down how he shares, he shares the power with, other kids.

Do you know how silly you're sounding right now, Brian? Oh, no. The whole premise sounds ridiculous. I mean, it's based on a comic book. It's not based on. Lance, we'll talk later. But we're getting Black Adam in October. All right. Y'all go watch that. I'm going to go watch Pet Cemetery Greenmate. You do that. Well, I'll take Black Adam. That looks cool. All right. Now, you guys have to speak on this one. because I completely forgot to watch it.

And that's Anne Rice's interview with a vampire. You guys talk. I'll watch it real quick. Unfortunately, to me, who's read all the books, I don't know where they're going to go with this.

The movie was, blew me away, right? The interview of the vampire movie, I was shocked how much I enjoyed the way Tom Cruise played LaSotte. I don't know if I like this LaSot,

because I kind of want to see Tom Cruise. even 61-year-old fucking Tom Cruise playlist started again. He was just that good. We all want to see Tom Cruise. Well, I mean, trust me, I'll watch it. There were definitely some scenes

in the trailer that reminded me of reading the book. There's no doubt that it takes place in New Orleans. They did a great job. It's shot. I'm watching it now. It's shot well,

and it's definitely, I feel like they're in that time period. I would agree. I would agree. I'm 100% in. But you know what? You could make like an animated film made by high schoolers that are learning how to make... Who's this asshole?

Is that not... Is the guy with the long hair? Is that the start? Right? No, that's the stunt. The blonde hair guy, right? Yeah. And then the main guy, it's told from the point of view of Lewis.

So he's going to be the main character. and then you got the guy that's interviewing him. That was Christian Slater in the film. And I guess it's some older dude here. You'll see that when you get to the end. So is it just the same story? It looks like it. Yeah.

See, I was looking they would expand. Yeah, I saw the little girl. I'm okay, Claudia. I'm okay if they'll do this story and then for fuck sake. Season two, move on to the next book. Don't just only do this story. get the same actors to go through all of her Vampire Chronicle books so that we get to know them. But it's a beautifully written story.

I'm just hopeful that the show is good, but to me it looked a little, you know, to me it looks slower than the movie, which I guess is by design because it's a series, so, you know, I mean, I'm watching it. Exactly move fast. Yeah, but I was a fan of the movie because I thought I was going to find. fucking hate it. Yeah. Because I thought, oh my God, are you serious? Brad Pitt and Mission Impossible?

Yeah. And then I loved him. Loved him in the movie. And, oh, what's his name was in that one? God damn it. Antonio. Delos. Erros.

Yes. I thought everybody was great. So, I just watched it. I didn't see anything that really stuck out to me. The little girl, that's the, what is their, Claudia? Is that the character? She looks like she fits the character.

Because there's a scene where it shows her as a human before she turns and then show her in vapor form. I like the different portrayals. I think she'll do a great job. She has the look. I think I'm kind of on board with you, Lance. I'm used to seeing Brad Pitt

and Tom Cruise. And I don't know if that's, I'm going to give it a chance, but I don't know if that's going to really hurt it for me. I just hope they stick with, if these actors are good, right? If they do their job well, I hope they stick with these people for three, four, five seasons. Because there's probably about 10 books now. So this thing could easily, you know, go 10 seasons.

And then you start getting to the books where they start to meet a completely different group, which is the Mayfair Witches, that also have their lore, mainly from Louisiana and New Orleans. So if you start getting into the books where it's like Blackwood Farm, where it's the Mayfair Witches and LaSot together, that's going to get it. Mayfair Witches is getting its own series. So if they pull those, is it the same network? Yes. Okay, so see, now I see some possibility here. Yeah, before Anne, sorry to cut you off, before Anne Rice passed, her and her son, they signed a production.

or a deal or I don't know what words to use, what kind of contract, but basically AMC is doing her books. Okay, well, then if that's the case, and they do that and they stay true to the books, then I'll keep watching. If they go off the rails like Game of Thrones did. But then again, she kept writing the books.

George R. Martin didn't. Here's the difference. So there'll be source material for years. Well, all right. I mean. That's one I'm going to wait and see. Like if you guys say it's really good, watch it. If it gets a lot of buzz, then I'll check it out.

We'll see. It'll be a bit of a slow burn, Philip. I can do you. I think, honestly, I think Lance, I think you'll probably be the first to check it out. Yeah. I'll be checking out of opening nine, I'm sure. So I think, me and Philip will probably just be going off of whether you recommend it or not. Yeah, cool.

Fair enough. And if it sucks, I'll be honest. I mean, if they're like horrible as the characters, I'm like, there's nothing at all like this in the book. I'll let you know. Oh, I'm sure. All right. We are going to, we're going to call this part one. They just finished the Marvel panel.

And everything they announced, we're going to have to do part two next week. Okay, okay. They announced a fucking whole lot of shit. Really? Marvel? No doubt. Yeah. See, now this is why I'm.

fucking love Marvel so much more than DC because they actually have their shit together. Yeah. I mean, they're trying their best to spin it off the rails though. Are they? Yeah, some of these TV shows kind of hit or miss lately. I think

once we really get into the main story, I think one thing I'll say, even if it's good or bad, Marvel, they always eventually course correct. They listen to the fans. Yeah. It's something was stupid. Like, Ben's Ben Kingsley and Iron Man 3

as the fates. That's right. They fixed it with Shant Sheet and they gave us the real Mandarin. Yeah, Mandarin. They fix everything. Just like Black Widow the taskmaster. They'll fix it. Right. They'll fix all that. Well, there you go, man.

They'll say that wasn't a real taskmaster. It was created by the actual you know, there you go. Yeah, yeah, a hinchman. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, and that's what I like about Marvel. You know, they'll keep it going.

And Star Wars, they seem to have their heads together for the most part. Star Trek with all the Paramount Plus stuff. They're doing good. That is going to be added to Part 2 next week, Lance. They had their panel today, too. So there was some Star Trek announcements. Oh, okay. See, I'm happy with all the Trek stuff.

I have not. I started watching the animated show. I'm kind of like, I'm not a part of. guy. Lower Decks? No, I like Lower Decks because it's funny. Oh, the original anime? And it's got the dude that was the killer from script. Oh, I mean, it's got the dude that is in

the boys in it. What's his name's son? You know who I'm talking about? Jack Wade. Yes, Jack Wade. Yeah, he's one of the main voices in Lower Dex, and he is funny as fuck. No, I like Lower Dex. What I'm talking about is it's called Prodigy. And it's like It's almost like a co-production with Nickelodeon.

Oh, the one that's for a younger kid. Yeah, I tried the first episode. I'm like a bit too juvenile for me. I may pick it up later, but all the other Trek stuff I love. Like season two of Picard, a lot of people gave it hell because it's corny. I loved it because it's corny. You know, it's all that throwback stuff. And it's throwback to old next generation.

It's throwback to the old Star Trek movie that had saving the whales in it. so that's my stuff man I actually fucking really like that one yeah the voyage home the boy it's hell yeah with the whales and I used to love that scene where the punk punk rocker on the bus he won't turn his music down

so Spock gives him the vulcan neck pinch and the whole bus is like yeah same actor shows up to recreate his role in Picard season two okay I gotcha All right. That makes sense. We'll come back next week with Part 2.

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I got a chance to listen to them great great great podcast funny the episode I listened to they did top vacations gone wrong horror movies

oh god and I never really thought of the first final destination as a vacation gone wrong but I mean they're trying to go on a trip to Paris

that completely fucking goes wrong throughout them you know from from that point so yeah Yeah, great. Got a chance to listen to them and fucking another podcast that I'm going to listen to every week with all the many, many, many podcasts that are super good out there. Yeah.

Yeah. There's no shortage. Did they cover Eden Lake or Lake Eden or whatever? I don't know. No, I don't think they did, but they should. But that is more like kids that are fucking assholes. Big time. Because I would punch every one of them kids.

Yeah, Philip would already kill the one kid. Yeah. Before he even got a chance to get to that. Pull your dick out. Okay, now it's time to fight. All right. And we will, let's see, we got, damn it, I lost my track. Okay, we'll bring back feedback next week,

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though, if I was to go back and listen to myself, I'd probably disagree with half of the stuff I said. It's possible. I'm open to changing my mind.

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We'll actually be doing that in a couple of weeks. Sounds fantastic. Unfortunately. What do you? Whoa. Unfortunately. It's got Michael Kane. Jesus Christ. Is it Sir Michael Kane? It should be.

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Oh, yes, you are. Yeah, we were really hoping this wasn't going to be a week that you said you had something and you couldn't be honest. This is your episode. We'll start with signs from 2002. A widowed former Reverend living with his children and brother on a Pennsylvania farm finds mysterious crop circles in their fields. which suggests something more frightening to come. Director is M. Knight Shama Lama Ding Dong, also known for Old and the Sixth Sense.

That should actually be like a second name for him. I think it might be. I've heard so many people call him that. Joaquin Phoenix replaced Mark Ruffalo. I didn't know that. who had to pull out of the film due to a brain tumor. Holy shit. It was later found to be benign.

He said pull out. Each sentence of that gets weirder, man. He had to pull out due to a brain tumor, but it was later found to be benign. Wow. Happy ending for the hole. It's still scary. Maybe he went back in after. I don't know.

Plus, I like Joaquin venex in this role. He did pretty good. Yeah, I'm trying to picture Mark Ruffalo, and I don't, I think it would definitely would been a different performance and I don't think I would have liked it as much. Yeah. Maybe less cheesy, but yeah. Graham Hess was originally written as an older character. Paul Newman was offered the role, but turned it down as did Clean Eastwood.

Those both would have been pretty interesting. I probably would have liked to see what Clint Easton would have did. Yeah, me too. I've been super fucking grouchy and angry. I would like to have seen Danny Glover. I'm too old for this alien shit. He's got aliens running through the field. Yeah, Danny, you know.

Fuck, Dad, I'm too old for this shit. Or, like, when he finds his daughter, put all the glasses of water everywhere, he picks it up, and then he puts it back down. He says, I'm just too old for all this shit. We're rewriting the movie already. All right. Brian, what do you think about signs?

This is one of my favorite M-night Shaman movies. Nice. I think it dives into the whole, I can't even say mythos of aliens because I'm starting to be a believer, you know, especially with the government coming out, you know, with information and videos and pictures, you know. I like the story. I like the performances, especially it's about drag racing. Oh yeah, you can hear that.

You turn off my microphone. I really like Joaquin's character in this as Merrill, which there seems to be a difference of pronunciation throughout the movie on what his name is Merle, Merle.

Carl. And I like the whole, storyline of signs, not just from the aliens, but as, you know, I'm not, I'm not religious or anything, but I did like that whole aspect of religious signs, you know, signs. The little girl having basically premonitions and the wife kind of with her, you know, tell Merrill to swing away, you know, all these, all these things that kind of just led up to the, to the finale. I like that. It's a very fate-based things are supposed to happen, which was kind of... I didn't buy Mel Gibson as a former father priest. It just wasn't working for me. Now, the Mel Gibson I bought is when all the kids were crying, and he was like, stop that crime. I was like, there you are, there you are.

I could have seen somebody else play Father Graham, or Graham, because he was on a father no more. and let me see Rory Culkin he's kind of fucking annoying in this movie he reminds me so much of McCulley Culkin and like Home Alone in this movie that's like his era Abigail Breslin as

Beau she was the cutest little girl in this movie and I just I love that whole thing you know she was just she was leaving little signs to things that come throughout the movie and nobody was really picking up on it. It's contaminated. I like the whole aspect of the crop circles, the tinfoil hats.

They kind of just added all those little aspects into it. But the one thing I have to say did not age well is the fucking CGI of the aliens because they look God awful in this. Oh, too bad, too bad. Which is, I wonder if... 2002, so... Yeah, I wonder if there was maybe because the scene where the alien

reaches under the pantry door and Mel Gittsman cuts the fingers off, that looked practical. I wonder if they were originally going to do practical, and then they just is like, fuck it, we'll do CGI. Save it. I think it probably would have just added to it if it would have got

a really good special effects guy to practical effects guide to do a real alien, not a real alien, but you know, a real realistic looking alien. Yeah. How creepy you would that have been? Because it just at time, I mean, with the video footage of the alien walking across the alleyway and the kids freaking out, stuff like that I'm fine with because it was kind of grainy footage and stuff like that.

But when you, at the end and you got the alien right there, I'm just like. He's holding the kid? Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Sean Malon? Could have did better. But overall, I thought it was a fun movie. It still holds up to me. me, I think it's one of his better ones.

The twist angle of it. It works for me because it was in the signs there all along. So, yeah. I don't know if this is my favorite Charmalan movie. I don't even know if signs is anymore, because

I think after you know the twist, it's just kind of not really worth rewatching. But it's up there for me. Yeah. uh, Lance, what do you think?

Okay, this is going to be you guys. Sorry. Didn't get it, didn't get a chance to watch it. I did see it when it first came out, but yeah. Yeah,

it's been literally 20 years, so I don't know if I can chime in too much here. Where are you, well, I just ask you a couple questions based, if you can remember, where you, were you blown away when you seen this as far as,

no, not as, not as much as I hoped that would be. Right. Where, yeah, as, you,

you've seen signs, before this, right? Or not signs of the Sixth Sense. Yeah, Sixth Sense was one of my favorites of his. Okay, so when you went into this one where you let down by the end of the movie? Exactly. Yes, yes. Yeah, I thought it was as good as Sixth Sense either. I didn't think it was clever. I didn't think it was as clever as Lady in the Water and most people hate that one. And say,

yeah, that was going to watch that one. I'll definitely rewatch science. I'll definitely rewatch signs after hearing you talk about it. Yeah, and real quick, it's just kind of funny to hear Mel Gibson in that one scene where his brother's telling him because they think the farmers

are fucking with their crops or whatever, he tells them to go curse. Curse that to them. He's like, I don't know how to curse. I'm like, yes, you do, Mel. You know how to say some very inappropriate things. Yeah, that was a fun scene, and then the one with the tinfoil

hats, where at first it was just the kids. and then he comes back in and the brother's sitting in the middle of him and he's got one out and not too. I love Joaquin in this. He's the, as Rory's like telling him all this stuff, he's like, that's not true, but what else? You know, just kind of tell me more. It's not true, but tell me everything you know. Well, and I, you know what? Eventually the whole, at least the UFO part of it becomes that guy that was sitting in the store that they show up to.

and he's like, this is all just propaganda bullshit, da-da-da, you know? And he didn't believe it was happening. 12 soda commercials since then. Yeah, 13. And, but I mean, we got more than just the Navy footage. There's, if that's real, that opens the door to so much more stuff. And there's so many, like, high-level guys from all over the world that have said some really cool shit. And suddenly we have UFOs on fucking cave paintings, man.

It's been throughout the entirety of history. If this is true, what if that was true? I mean, they can talk about it now. It's declassified. They don't have to worry about someone coming to visit them in the night to take them out for talking about classified stuff. It's out there now. They're edging it out as slowly as they can so people don't flip out. But...

We're going to flip out anyway. Yeah, at this point, if you don't at least believe that there are UFOs from somewhere that is not us, then you're the conspiracy theorist. You're mounted in that much evidence for it where you can't just explain it away with fucking weather balloons or whatever, you know? It's a drone. No, it's not. You know? But anyway, yeah, no, I really enjoy. this movie. It was a, I did like the whole signs aspect of it, the whole fate thing. It gave me a really feel-good vibe. It was a little bit cheesy, um, as a few of the Shy Malon movies are.

Yeah, I mean, as far as that, I think that was a really good scene with Mel Gibson and his brother. And he was just like, you know, I wish you were like the way you used to be because I want you to tell him, tell me everything's going to be all right. And then he tells him this kind of, gives him this talk and then Joaquin's Merrill, his character, remembers the story of how he's about to kiss a girl and she threw up and he felt like

you know, I'm a believer, you know. That was a miracle. Yeah, so. And then he asked his brother, he was like, well, which one are you? And he was like, well, does it really matter as long as you feel okay? You know, I just like the little back

and forth they had. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was some, definitely some introspective stuff in the movie even though it was a little bit on the cheesy side. And I remember being not necessarily disappointed when this movie came out, but not necessarily blown away either. It's hard coming off of something like the sixth sense that was so good and had such a twist on it that so many people didn't see coming

that, you know, when every movie now has to have that twist, which this one kind of really didn't. I think it's maybe not exactly what some people were expecting. But in retrospect, I like it, man. It's a fun movie. It's one that I'll rewatch for whenever. I'm going to rewatch it. You guys have me convinced.

Did you think the scene at the end where the alien tried to spray the sun with the gas, but it didn't affect him because his lungs were supposedly closed or due to his asthma attack? Do you think that was kind of hokey? I liked it. It was another little chunk of that whole... Everything happens for a reason, which is the whole thing of the movie, you know? Do lungs work like that? Probably not.

I don't think of... They do in M-Knight World. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, maybe it did close up with a asthma or something. And I mean... Yeah. And I think this kind of is a good movie If you want to be prepared to what's coming

Because they kind of break it down You know, aliens are neither here for this reason or that reason Yeah Either here to help us or here to fucking take us out Right That might come up in the next movie Well, if they have been around For at least the last 70 years

If not longer It seems like they would have already done something If they were going to do anything So, I don't know. They may be on a different time scale than we are. Yeah. 70 years for us to them may be like a split second. Or maybe it's...

They've just seen how fucked up our world is and they're just like, I don't know if we want to help them or not. Or destroy them. They're taking themselves out anyway. Or maybe it is us from the future. That's another one of those possibilities. There's something there, though. It's not nothing.

Is it aliens? I don't know. But it's something fucking weird. All right, so scores, Brian, what I think? This, I would probably say I remember when I first seen it, I wasn't quite disappointed as Lance was, or maybe even if you were a little bit, Phil, but I always liked it. But now I do, I know it was 2002, but the CGI alien. CGO is fucking bad.

but with all that said I liked all the performances I liked the story I liked the old signs aspect of it and I probably say seven and a half that's good yeah

I'm gonna yeah I think I'll give it a seven it's uh nice it's definitely a fun movie it's not the best movie in the world you know but

it's fun and rewatchable, I think. And it's got a good message. I like it. Happy. Yeah, who cares if Merrill has the strikeout records? Yeah. Five-time home run champ. Somebody would assign him. And he was, and it was

for a reason. So he could hit that alien in the head and knock him into the water. I got to rewatch this. Yeah. Just watching that scene, I was like, somebody would have signed you for some kind of the short contract or something. I mean, you're hitting 500 foot plus home runs.

With all the AA, AAA, AAA teams out there, Philip, right? Oh, yeah, well, he said he played in the minors, but yeah, he might have signed to something. But then again, I could see the problem with him just swinging at everything. Yeah. All right. Lance, do you want to give it a score or no? I remember it being like six and a half.

I think I like the two-thirds, so, you know. All right. It's hard to be hard to get too much into Nope, without spoilers. Oh, yeah. That part will be short. You want to drop a spoiler right here? No, let's, can we at least do our scores? Yeah, let's, we'll throw it out there and give the scores, and then we'll spoil it.

It'll probably be quick. I want to make sure we don't have our crimes of the future situation going on. Yeah, because they got out of control quick. Well, I was like, yeah. Now, hey, they're already spoiling it. Then I have questions. Right. The residents of a lonely gulch in inland California bear witness to an uncanny and chilling discovery.

That is about as vague as you can get. Let's stay that way until he's spoilers, right? Yeah. Well, and, you know, that's kind of what he does. He might have given a little too much away. Sure. Director and writer is Jordan Peel, also known for Get Out and Us. The only other two movies is actually directed, right?

Yeah. I think so. The set of four lights seen at 103 in the first trailer match a description of a phenomenon witnessed at the Sherman Skinwalker Ranch in Utah Desert. There you go, Philip. Yeah, I know there's a whole Skinwalker Ranch show in. while I was at your house. It's really good.

That sounds dirty. It's an alien hot spot in Utah. I mean, they've got footage of it and everything. And, I mean, it might be famous. It's a fucking TV show. It looks goofy. Yeah, we did. It might be real.

Where is this streaming? I think they have a season of it on Netflix, but it's also on Hulu, I believe. Okay. Or as Nes would say, it's out there. It's out there. But it's interesting. Anyway, it's a site associated with paranormal events.

Mostly UFO, but they do have some weird other ghost stories and shit, which is what makes you go, well. Yeah, let's get a little off the deep end now. The lead role was offered to, uh, Jesse Plemons, but had to turn it down due to scheduling conflicts with his movie Killer Killers of the Flower Moon, which was shooting at the same time. That's Scorsese, right? Yeah, and a good book, a good nonfiction book. I think Scorsese's doing it, and I think DiCaprio's in the movie, too.

Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Yeah. Well, he's kind of got his pick of people, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. That would have been totally different with Fleming's fat Damon

That Damon Jordan Peel cites King Kong Jurassic Park close encounters of the third kind Signs and the Wizard of Oz As the film's influences I see there Okay I kind of get that

Hmm All right So without spoiling it. Brian, you want to go first? What did you think about? Nope. I was super excited coming into this. I know his second movie, Us, is kind of divisive with people. For me, he was after us, he was two for two on great movies. Yeah, same here. Same here. So I was super excited

coming into this. I was really hoping it had to do with aliens and stuff like that. I was excited to see Daniel Kaluah in this. I think he's a phenomenal actor. Everything I've seen him in. He owned the role. I think he owned the role, man. He's not a fan.

Not a fan. Really? I hate that you're not, dude, because I've seen her in so many things that love her in lately. If you looked up the definition of being extra, there's a picture of her being extra. she does not know how to turn it off even I know but he needed her in that opening scene he really needed her because of who he is

and we'll get to that we'll get to that I know okay but that was the character yeah and I think that she pulled that part of it off really well I think she even though she was slightly annoying I can I think she pulled the whole movie off but that's just me I like her I do

The actor, hold on, I got to look up his name real quick. Michael Wincott that played the director. Ah, okay. He was just for the little bit of time he was in there. He was fucking great, and he's got, his voice is amazing. The guy with the amazing voice. He needs to be in an animated Disney movie as a villain. Why is he not?

Oh, for sure. Or is he? I don't know. I have to look him up. I thought the guy that played Angel, Brandon Pereira, I thought he was pretty funny when he was in there. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he was great, man. I love this movie up until the end. And I started saying, hmm, that was like... Sort of saying, nope. I took my wife and daughter to see this, and even my wife was kind of looking at me,

like, the fuck is happening right now. I was like, I was like, this is going to be. be a good conversation. I was like, let's hold on, let's see, let's talk after the movie, and then she was like, okay. And my, just though, I might be honest, she fucking loved this movie. She thought it was amazing. She, there's time she said she got scared

and she, she liked all the characters and had a lot of fun with it. Kind of making her think about the whole alien thing, too. She was just kind of like, hmm. Philip, it served its purpose, man. That's what I'm saying. But with all that, it's being. With all that being said, my problems with the ending, I thought Jordan Peele knocked it out the park again. The subject matter is fucking terrifying of what could be.

Right. Fucking monkeys are fucking terrifying of what could be. Stop fucking Elon Musk teaching monkeys how to play chess. I know what you're doing. but I would say experiment on people like a real mad scientist I would say as far as

Jordan Peel movies even though I had a problem with the ending he's he's three for three with me right now nice nice okay all right Lance what do you think I had no problem with the ending

I fucking love the ending I think the ending was fucking be too dude massively painted by it by an artiste so have no problem with the ending, but I do like the way that they

I definitely like to start up to this movie. I love the way that you didn't really quite know what was going on or how were they going to tie all this stuff together and why were they showing you this one scene at the beginning that took place of

1998 or whatever. I almost thought that was like what is this like a short for the production company or something? I don't understand it. Yes. Yeah, I was kind of the same way. I was like, is this, is the movie started yet or is this something else? I didn't even, yeah, I couldn't tell if it was the movie or if it was something else.

Yeah. I, yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I enjoyed it. I love the way that it wasn't the twist that I expected, as you guys know, because I told you what I thought it was going to be about, that they were here first, right? and they were trying to take back their land. But even without that, the fact that it wasn't still quite what you thought it was going to be as far as technology versus a biological creature or whatever,

I enjoyed the way that he did that. I, you know, you guys know, I'm a big fan of alien movies, science fiction movies. the film that came out three or four years ago where they were communicating with the aliens. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, Arrival. That was my favorite movie of that year. I saw a lot of...

I got a lot of arrival vibes from this one. And without saying too much, are going into any spoilers. They were able to give you a lot of good stuff in the trailer that I thought was going to be one thing and it ended up being something completely different because of the subplot. And there was a particular actor in here that dealt with something when he was young.

And you would just see scenes where he was going like, and somebody would have to just have to bring him back to the real world. Yeah, that played into it. You went through that situation. I mean, as a child, I mean, I don't think you ever be right again. I questioned it. Halfway through the movie, I'm questioning, where is he going with this subplot? Right. It was a weird subplot, and I think they probably could have done without it, but I like that it was in there. It was interesting.

Me too. Yeah, and I don't think that it overstayed it's welcome. It was, you know, a two hour and ten minute movie that used each. It was very slow burn in the first act, right? Wouldn't you guys agree it was, you know, slow burn in the first act? Yeah, it didn't bother me. I like the... Even though I, Kiki Palmer, whatever I felt about her, I did like the dynamic between her and Daniel Kalu's character. The brother's sister kind of, because you get the feeling there was, yeah, there was a problem there, but they're still brother and sister. You know, you got, you got that both aspects. Well, they had it, they had an issue, but they're still got somewhat of closeness and they're kind of going back and forth. You know, we drink it tonight? Well, I got some weed.

You know, they still care for each other, even though they have an issue that, you know, we'll get into, you know, spoilers. I will say that Kaluah did a great job playing the quiet cowboy. Kind of like, I got Clint Eastwood vibes. Doesn't he just like disappear into his roles? Yeah, I mean, he was really good at us. It seems that way. And the way that he was able to tame the. horses, like a horse whisper, right?

Yeah, because I don't know if people know that he's British. Oh. But he is, God damn. Like every one of our good actors are, well, he barely even spoke in this. What's very quiet? He was the, he was, he was that fucking lone ranger out on the planes. Don't bother me. I'm quiet.

I'm, I'm at peace with my horses. I'm at peace with being a cowboy again he owned the role and he really did yeah just going back to other performances that he did playing Fred Hampton and Judas in the Black Messiah like he disappeared into that role

uh queen and Slim he was even great in that black black merit episode where they're on the bikes earning the credits oh yeah 10,000 merits or whatever just I really bought him as a a horse handler, you know,

a cowboy, you know. He just really gave that to me. See, and I'm going to say, I think Kiki shined right next to him, man. I think she, if not outshined him, although that was sort of her role, you know?

But I think they both really pulled it off. She was the marketing and her people person, right? Like, I don't know if I could imagine this movie with anybody else in it. She was the, She was the entertainer. She was the one that, you know, did the old, you know, soft shoe dance, right?

To get the people to like them. They were a perfect mixture of their father. Right. And God damn it. If you were to tell me that he was in this movie, like five minutes, I would have yelled at you. I felt so, because, you know, I do all the news and stuff like that. And I don't know how I missed this one, and he popped up. I was like, hey.

Yeah. Me too. I was like, I don't know who he was in this. We talked about him more than any other actor ever, except maybe Dane to Hunt. And man, was he just majestic sitting on that horse? Mm-hmm. It's cool. I don't want to say.

You know, I don't have a problem with the end. I think that they had an interesting take on the UFOs. as, you know, another possibility of what they could be. And it's one you made not have thought of it. I hadn't really thought of that one before, truthfully. Always think of technology. You know, I always think of robotics and all that. And it was an interesting way to go.

And I appreciated that. And I was worried a lot of UFO movies, you know, they have, they're, most of them are slow burn. And they don't really get into some shit until the very end of. them and I feel like this one gave me more than I expected. And it wasn't like, you know, because like in signs, you know, you barely catch a glimpse of some stuff and then there's really only an alien in the very last scene. Well, that's not really the case here.

They give you a whole lot of shit on your way there. And I enjoyed that. I thought it kept going. It was long, but I didn't have a problem with it, man. It kept me entertained the entire time. I didn't get bored once. I wanted it to keep going when it was over. Yeah.

That's a good sign. Yeah. No pun intended from the last movie. I honestly, I would, Phil, I was right there with you because I honestly thought there was going to be a post-credit scene or something during the credits or something because I was just kind of like,

okay, give me more. Give me more. Yeah, there's a little like poster ad at the end of it that's kind of based on the movie, but it's not even worth staying for. Speaking of posters, I loved all the old school movie posters that were in their house.

There were so many Easter eggs. There were so many lines from other movies. So Tarantino-esque. Jordan Peel ain't fucking around, man. This shit's good. And I like some of the little RT choices he made with editing. I kind of, now that I'm thinking about it, I like that scene at the beginning where you weren't even sure if the movie was starting. It was just a, here's a little thing.

Remember that. and now we're going to go into our story. But keep it in mind. And we're going to get a sports horror movie from him next. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. It's football, I think.

All right. I won't discount him for anything. Whatever it is, I'll watch it. Man, he's building up a pretty damn good resume. I'm impressed a lot. All right. You want to do scores and then we can get it to spoilers, Brian? don't do 10s.

This wasn't a perfect movie for me. I loved almost everybody in it. Spoke on her enough. This is a three-for-three with Jordan Peel. I loved all the everything we got as far as the story. Visuals look great. Let me give it a 9. Wow.

Nice. Lance? it's eight and a half I knew it was going to be phenomenal I didn't think it was going to be the ending that it was but I'm happy with the ending that it was so yeah this is this is up there guys eight and a half 8.5

it gave you something original I like that I reserved the right to change my mind later like I did with Star Wars like I think the last Jedi man I defended that one lot and I probably wouldn't anymore. But I'm going to go ahead and give this one to 10, man. Holy fuck! It's on my list of Best for the Year so far.

Wow. It's when I know I really like a movie is when I start looking at some other reviews on it, and like I'm arguing with my screen. See, I'll try my videos. That's the problem. until I've seen a couple of reviews that are sort of wishy-washy and well it's you know little of this little of that they could have done without that and they start nitpicking and asking questions and I'm like trying to answer them

I'm like no man it's good this is why I was blown away when I came out of the movies and what I love about it is the way the trailer tricked you right it gave you little scenes that you think it's going to be one thing but it's something different especially with that subplot yeah they tied it together so them. I was a little disappointed with the fakeout scene. Because it's such a good scene. He reacted the right way, though.

Yes. I was just disappointed that it was a fake out. All right, let's do spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. Oh, God bless Keith David, not David Keith. I did not know he was in this, but he just a few minutes he was in there. He was great. Yeah. And did you notice the same thing that killed him was the same exact item that allowed her to finally take a picture? Oh, look at that. Jordan Peel bringing it around.

But I thought that was super weird that he kept the one from his dad's head and hung it on the wall. If a coin fell out of the sky and landed in your dad's head out of nowhere and they were like, yeah, here's what killed him. I'd probably keep it too. I mean, that's some kind of evidence. Are you hanging it up on the wall? Well, no, but. In the bag that it came in from the hospital. Well, let me, guys tell me, we looked at every night and went, how in the.

fuck did that happen? Okay, the only thing I have questions about on this movie is the timeline. So when did Keith David die compared to when the show started and when the little amusement part got built and all that? Well, they mentioned the stuff has been happening around for the past six months. So I would say somewhere in that timeline. Within that time frame. That makes sense. Okay.

So he kept a little six-month time frame. Yeah, jump forward to Stephen Yun's character. character, Joop. Yes. Apparently, he's been seeing this for the past six months and has been leaving horses out there and stuff like that. Yeah, for a sacrifice or whatever, right? I thought was real fucked up that I was thinking, do.

Has he just been buying this guy's horses for this purpose only? Yeah. I like it. Yeah. You better charge a lot for those little shows. And the Hollywood horse, Haywood's Hollywood horses has fallen on hard times, right? Yeah, but I think that was his first show he did. Because if he'd done more shows before this, he would have had a bigger crowd than what was there.

That's what I was blown away, how tiny the crowd was. But there was a scene from earlier when Ghost got taken. And you could hear him either rehearsing it or running a show in the background, which is right when the UFO showed up and ate horse. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, because you could see him off in the background, like down the bottom of the valley. That could have been him getting ready for this first show.

It could have been. Maybe he just did it on his own. I think it was, I think the show we've seen at the end was the first one. This is one of those movies that deserves a few more watches. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because I'm going to, with my spoilers, I'm going to jump all over to place.

With the end scene. It should be. when we think that he sacrifices himself so his sister can get away, which I fucking hated that she slid on the bite and then killed the alien and they were like, I'm the A1 bitch!

Brian, you've got to get over your hatred of Kiki Palmer. Come on. I can't. I can't. Obviously. What really set you off against her, man? Everything I've seen her and I love.

I first seen her when she was a kid. She was in this Ice Cube football movie. Well, she was also in Medea. She was the girl that Medea adopted. Maybe that's where my hatred. That's probably where you got fucked up in the head over, man. Because she was like the little street hood that Medea adopted. I've unfortunately seen the movie.

With that being said, when she sees her brother at the end, I thought it was a nice moment because she wasn't even bothered with the pictures that she got of the alien. It seemed like she became more concerned with her brother, which you didn't get that from her earlier. Yeah. So what happened? Did she at least grab the picture for fuck sake? This is a theory.

This is a theory that when she sees her brother, that's not really her brother. It's in her mind. Oh, my God. She's seeing her brother as she wants to see him. Where did you come up with this? I had to come home and look up. Oh, you looked up? I don't think so, man.

No, yeah. Because he didn't get. Angels survived too because the fucking alien spit out the barbed wire. But we get that scene of him talking to their father, and clearly he's not there. Right. I kind of, and then there's theories that he kind of foreshadowed his own death by riding the ghost horse in the beginning. I think that's kind of like the Joker theory. I might have went down a rabbit hole.

Yeah. I think that's like the Joker theory of, Well, he was in the insane asylum the whole time. Yeah. Which I don't agree with it. I appreciate it as a theory. That takes all the vinegar out of the movie. I mean, you know, I like to take the movie more literal for like...

I like the Michael Wincock character of Antlers Hoist and his fucking bathrobe that he was lying in his bathrobe in his car. I like that. He was like, you know, we can't get this. a perfect shot or what did he call it the impossible shot impossible shot right right you don't deserve the impossible shot but he at the end he tried to obtain the impossible shot

when he tried to go inside yeah which I mean stupid perfect time for you to say nope but I mean that that's what you want to obtain that kind of shot you know more power to you

I'm assuming that eventually that footage might be dropped somewhere because this alien seems to reject all metal objects. Spin out stuff that it's not tasty. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. But the other footage that he had of the UFO before he decided to fuck up the whole thing

and jump out in the open. Right. You kind of saw it rolling down the hill and it looked like film was coming out. So I think that shit's toast, which is why she was so desperate to take the picture of it at the end. Right. You know,

to finally get the shot because everything else has failed. So why do y'all think he did that? Do you think he looked, he looked at it, and he felt like he saw God? Well, I think... It's already on the edge anyway, mentally. I just think that was, like, the end-all-be-all for him as what he does

is to obtain the impossible. and now he wanted to be sucked up into it. He felt like what they got was not that the shot. It wasn't good. Ah, okay. He needed to go. He needed to take that extra step, even if it, I don't see. It's kind of like, I don't know if he meant like he knew what was going to happen.

And I'm just saying that based on the way he screamed as he was going in it. Right. Because, I mean, he screamed like he didn't know it was going to suck him up or. But I would like. to think that that's what i would like to think that was his choice to true obtain that shot from the inside which i kind of don't think he got because it seemed like as soon as he got sucked up the film style because i'm assuming he could crank it no more i was sort of hoping it would kind of keep going through the inside of it oh me too man me too i love that scene he was like stanley kubrick

you know he had he had to get the perfect shot this last one was not good enough he needed a better one. How did you guys... Definitive, undeniable proof. Yeah. How did you guys feel the reveal that it wasn't a ship? It was an actual

living... I like that. I like that because I've never really seen it before. So it was kind of like a jellyfish type thing or something like that. It was... Yeah. Yeah. I... That's not the problem

I had with the movie because my wife kind of had that problem and I was kind of explaining it had... That was just many forms of it camouflaging. right because when you got the cloud thing which we didn't even talk about the cloud and who really looks at who really looks at a cloud to notice that it's not moving you know yeah i would think you wouldn't notice that though yeah but then again i don't think we really stare up at the clouds that much not like we used to yeah it wouldn't be hard for it we had a cell phone and the the parachute kind of looking thing uh-huh you would just think that's a balloon in the air you wouldn't think that's an alien that's why I kind of came up with that idea. And then when it looked like the flying saucer,

it moved so fast to where you think you saw something, but you kind of questioned, did I see something? Yeah, out of the corner of your eye tech thing. So I didn't have a problem with that. Actually, when it was kind of in full bloom or spread, I thought it looked kind of cool. And it kind of looked like it had a face.

Yeah. Did it? I liked that one because, That was my initial thought when it did that was peacock. If you've ever, like, in person, seen a peacock spread their shit out. It's a little intimidating. It's fucking crazy. They're huge.

Right. And this is sort of what that was like, except instead of a defense mechanism, it was a predator thing. Mm-hmm. Which I assume is why he went for the big balloon at the end. Because I know some people were upset that, you know, it just popped and died or whatever. But I think. that she let the flags go because it

really just for cover so it would go chase something else or run away. That's what I thought. Already established it doesn't like flags. But you had the balloon popping and you had the balloon popping at the beginning with the chimpanzee and that's what freaked out the fucking chimpanzee.

Be careful what you try to tame. Wildlife does not fucking play games the way humans do. Well, which is why they had that whole chimpanzee storyline. line in there because it's sort of the same concept you think you can tame these wild animals

and yeah only until they sick freed and roar your ass right now I think that was mentioned in the movie right yeah he ate that girl's face yep which we see her later at the show

I know that's because I was always wondering you know what the fuck is up with this lady in the trailer that's what I said in the trailer I thought she was like an alien sitting in the ground and then when Stephen Ewing he's doing his presentation and then he introduces her as his first TV crush or something. I was like, that's the girl from the show that he was on.

Yep. I was like, that's kind of fucked up that she survived with no face. It was a little disappointing for that character from the trailer. Was it? For it to be that backstory, I think, because I was looking for it to be really creepy, and it turned out to be kind of a... But it was just a... Some trash out there in the trailer to redirect, you know?

Okay. We got to talk about the Gordy show. Hey, before we do that, guys, can I, can I, before I forget, I got to tell you all, I've had a conversation with AJ just yesterday. This is what's funny about this, the way this movie was filmed, and one of the locations on the film, AJ and I were driving back from Austin yesterday to Houston, right? There's this little town called Ledbetter, Texas, and there's these little, run-down buildings to the right when you drive through.

And it almost looks like the Wild West buildings. And I told her, I said, why doesn't somebody, I said they have Renaissance festivals all the time. Why doesn't someone do a Wild West Renaissance festival? Dude. Where you set it up? And that's what fucking Stephen Young did. And I thought, holy fucking shit. When I saw that today, I was like, I was just talking about this idea yesterday.

Yeah. Anyway, I thought that was kind of cool. But back to the movie, sorry. Yeah, I would go to, what did he call it? Jupiter's Claim Carnival? Yeah, I'd go. Like the planet. And you saw the UFO in the back of his coat, right?

Mm-hmm. It's just a lot of shit in this movie. Gordy's show. Gordy's show. Alien influence back then? I don't know. What's up with the shoe? The shoe standing straight up.

I think it had something to do with aliens because we got it in signs when there was aliens near it set off the animals. Maybe it just wasn't just the balloons popping. I never fucking even thought about that, man. It could have been because

the gorty he seemed to calm down at the end and he was trying to fist bump little Stephen Young. Yeah, in the trailer on that I thought he was fist bumping with an alien. Yeah. Great misdirected the trailer because I thought the same thing.

There was a lot of misdirected in the trailer. I really felt like he was experiencing an extraterrestrial moment back then as a child with Gordy going crazy and then the shoe just sticking straight out. I think I'm more to

nine guys. I think I'm more to nine on this movie. Yeah, this is up there. There's a lot here. I kind of wish they'd have given us a more clear-cut answer but now that I'm talking to you guys about the whole shoe thing, I mean, because they did it but they didn't really tell you

what it was. They just left it kind of open-ended. But I like that. I think maybe it was an extra- extra-director. He had that shoe on display in his fucking office there. It's like, what the thing has been following him since he was a kid. Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. Yeah, this is, I'm up to nine. I'm up to nine. Can we go higher? Brian, you're a nine, Philip, you're a 10. Yeah, I was 10. I, I, the, so. Is this an into the multiverse type thing? Is it that good or what? And Gordy's real name was Terry. Let's give a shout out to his excellent performance of beating the shit out of people. Oh, I thought it was a CGI monkey.

No, it was. It was a real chimpanzee name, Terry. Really? Terry notary. He had a last name, too. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, shit.

I lost a thought. I might be wrong. It might be an actor playing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of like... The guys that played Paul in Black Panther. What's his name? It wasn't a real... It was Alfred in the new Batman movie.

Oh, uh... Come on, help me out, guys. You know what I'm talking about? He always plays fucking Kong or... Somebody's yelling right now. Oh, my God. Somebody's yelling at top volume. Because this dude is super big.

He's in the Batman. He's... He's the new Alfred in the new Batman. He did, he was Gollum and Lord of the Rings. Oh, the guy from the fucking Marvel. Yeah. He was in Black Panther. And he's so great as Claw.

He's like Australia. Before Black Panther, he showed up in Captain America Civil War. Yep. He lost his hand. He was King Kong. Oh, my. My God. Jesus.

I'm looking at it up right now. Who is yelling at us right now? He's, is he Australian or British? Andy Circus. Andy Circus. Andy Sergis. He's either Australian or New Zealand. There you go.

He is English. Is he? Yeah. We're all fucking up, man. Sorry, everybody. It took us a long time to get to where you guys already knew. Okay. So, Andy Circus.

Getting back to our original point, the guy that played the champ was like, a new Andy circus. Yeah. Okay. Damn, I really wanted to be a real chimp named Terry. It kind of bums me out. Oh, the fake-out scene. That's the what I wanted to get to.

The namesake-of-the-movie. What make-out scene, though? Where he's in the horse barn and the lights keep turning on. Oh, and he was just like, nope. Yeah, and then like these aliens pop up and they kind of start this, like, slow-mo dance groove chasing him down thing I loved that scene I was freaking out

because the citizen happened man the whole theater nope and he he was not getting a good picture with that camera that old flip phone camera he had yeah why did they have a flip phone he probably he probably had

no need for anything like the iPhone which she she had an iPhone because I didn't I wasn't really paying attention to phones until I seen that scene and it had me question in the time period but then when she pulled out her iPhone I was like okay he just he doesn't have need for anything more than that fits in with his character yeah it's just a quiet horse whisper or cowboy yeah which man on the

range I will say with her being how she was in a movie it was like I said earlier before we got was perfect mixture of their father. He was the guy that could train and handle the horses but could not do what she did. Was get in front of the camera and

sell what they're doing. Right. And to the showbiz side, that she was that side of her father. Yep. He was missing. Charisma. Yeah, because he clearly was not comfortable with being

in the camera. He in front of the camera. because he was constantly looking down. Oh, of course not. But that played in later, too. Because that's how to train the horses. If you look down, you don't scare them. It was a sign. In the safety, right?

Yeah, in the safety. And I'm looking at the cast list. One of the people, I think it was the guy that was the handler for the actress. They were trying to, whatever they were shooting. Yes. That was Oz Perkins, Anthony Perkins, son. Yeah, and he's directed some movies. didn't he do like the Black Coats daughter

and a couple other ones like that? The one movie you liked Gretel and Hansel. Ah! No shit! Okay. That's pretty cool, man. But yeah, a fucking great movie, man.

Yeah. I think we're all in agreement on this one. Yeah. In the back of my head, I sort of wish there was aliens. like, well, I mean, there are. There are little, I know, but little great aliens in the movie as opposed to the ship being the alien. Well, you got it. You got it.

It's just, you got people in masks that got knocked out real quick. Yeah. When he punched the one. That was the perfect, because this perfect, first perfect reaction was dope. You know, let's step back. And then one, the other one popped out. He was like, pow. It was like the perfect reaction.

It was. That was like a real-life reaction to it. But the way that it was done, and it was such a different take than anything you'd seen. You know, it was unique and creative. And, man, I got to give it to Jordan Peel. I'm excited about what his career does moving forward. Great creature effects, right? Phil, you're the UFO guy, alien guy.

What is this new term? Oh, UAP. Yeah, what does that mean? Unidentified aerial phenomenon. Okay. And that really is why they changed it, because UFO is too stigma. Oh, boy. So for all government reports, it's referred to as UAP.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I was one of those people he was talking about when he was like, he was like, what does that mean? He was like, nobody knows. I was like, I don't know. And there's like government agencies. that have been studying this shit since fucking

1947 when Roswell happened. So whether or not Roswell was real, it was something, and then they started in studying aliens, and then they started studying quantum physics. It all happened at the same time. And string theory, right? If you really look at

all the stuff where government has studied, like I was watching a breakdown of stranger things. Like, there was a study of people would try, they tried to do a study on psychic powers, and they had all these test subjects, stuff like that. And when did all that shit happen? After 1947.

There you go. I'm telling you. It's weird shit. M.K. Ultra, all that stuff. There's something going on there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I think it's more connected than we think it is. I think it's a bunch of different little conspiracies that may all be true.

Now, MK Ultra is a thing. Project Blue Book is a thing. UFOs are a thing. You may not believe them. You may not know the information on them. but they are, for a fact, a thing. I don't know what they are, but it's something. All right.

All right, on that note. Okay. So we could talk for two more hours, but we're going to move along. So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com, or just simply go to the website. thehorror returns.com and follow our social media's from there.

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