The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #328: A Salute To Shudder - What Josiah Saw (2022) & Glorious (2022)

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

This week we make use of our shudder subscription with 2 brand new movies. Cool of the Week includes House of the Dragon, Loot, Project Hail Mary, and Jaws. Trailer is Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey. The podcast spotlight shines on The Buzzed Kill podcast. And we get feedback from The Cult of Erin, Ana Bananas, Al Ramseur, Adam Bunch, ChasetheSmoke914, Sarah Snow, Xim Vader, and Ry Guy. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language join us in celebrating the old and the new the best and the worst

in horror we've broken lance at record time mucky pox huh oh welcome everybody to the horror returns my name is Brian this dude over here is Philip and I think Lance is somewhere in the back.

Nez is not going to make it tonight. No. We're here. I'm not, Brian. I'm Lance. I'm not that drunk, but I'm getting close. What have you been up?

What have you guys been up to today? Sleeping. Long, long weekend. Yeah? Yeah. I suck. Out of town with the family for the weekend. so oh that's right that's right how did how did that go man you it's good it's good i got to

i got to see my nieces i don't really get to see them that much uh they live about a hour hour and a half uh outside of town so right they used to live in town but they they bought a house out there and so been trying to get get out there lately so that that is why we are recording the a little bit later this song. Okay. I mean, we've done that before. That's one good thing about our listeners. They understand that sometimes we record Saturday. Sometimes we record Monday.

Sometimes we record whenever the fuck we want to. That's why they call it a podcast and not a network TV show. When will we be like it off my back? NBC, we ain't. That show would have been canceled. Oh, God. Years ago, right? Oh, yeah.

Cancelled after the pilot. Ah, yes. If the pilot would have even made it on, right? Like, this is a show about nothing. Yeah, I've had that before. Well, we'll get to cool of the week. But before we do that, Philip, how's baseball? You guys doing baseball yet, or is it a little too soon for that?

We're trying. It's been freaking raining nonstop, though, so. Which is good, right? Because we had nothing but no rain for what three months or something like that? Yeah, boy, the mosquitoes come out with a vengeance, though. Like they've been gone all summer and now you can't step outside. They're vicious. What's it like in Alaska, Brian? You guys have mosquitoes or ants or any of that shit that we've got down here?

We get swarmed with mosquitoes in the summer, but it's almost like they've been non-existent, really. this summer is kind of weird. Interesting. Yeah, there weren't too many around here when it was nice and dry, but it's been raining like nonstop for the past three weeks. Maybe it's like what Mark Wahlberg was talking about with the bees and the happening. Maybe that's what's happening with the mosquitoes. Oh, God.

Right. The bees and the trees. What? No. Oh, man. All right. Philip, what's your cool of the week, man? I'm going to go with Game of Thrones this week

because I finally got caught up on the on the House of the Dragon or whatever it's called and House of Dragons that's what it is right? Yeah, whatever. Until that motherfucker finally finishes writing the last two books in the original series. I'm going to call it now.

We're going to get the next gamutton spin-off TV series before he comes out with the book. Oh, for sure. Yikes. But, dude, they're killing it on the show. It's like they, uh, it's a great show. They took some of the stuff to heart from those last couple seasons and, uh, decided to fix him.

And it, uh, I was, I was worried I wasn't going to, like, be interested in it. And so I started it and I was only kind of half-ass paying attention. But now they've got me full bore. I'm excited about it. They got you. Yeah. Well, I kind of let our HBO go for a little bit. I'm going to have to sign up again later, but we gave up on the, we cut the cord on cable. So my, as everybody who listens to the show knows, I pay for everything.

But my bill did go from 160 a month to 89 a month, just by getting put a cable. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't have HBO. don't have stars or any of that shit anymore. So they do have an HBO special. I think I'm going to sign up for. Stars and all that other stuff.

If you want, you can get through Amazon Prime. Yeah. Plus, I mean, for what? Like, what shows do they have that nobody else does? Well, Stars has, what's the one that we watch? Outlander. if you was to get any of them i i would say go with stars if you had to pick one at all the showtime doesn't have shit do they now i can't think of a single good showtime show can y'all

they're they're kind of like netflix for me like when they come out with a show that i'm interested in i'll get it and i'll watch it and then cancel yeah yeah probably a smart idea HBO might be worth it, though. They've got some good stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely the best of the three. So House of the Dragon for you?

Yeah. And I'm still watching Supernatural. We're not going to do it for weeks. Work my way through it. Every week, supernatural. Every fucking week, man. For the next 15 seasons, man. I'm like, when is this going to be over?

Oh, my God, dude. You might as well also pick up on Smallville and Riverdale and The Flash and Arrow. Yeah, I thought about Flash because I think that one's on Netflix too now. They all are, dude. All those CW shows, man, come on. They all make their way to Netflix eventually, right? Yeah. That one still surprises me, though. It was still a better show

than I always thought it was. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've watched all of them for a while, but like 23 shows. the season is a lot to ask for, dude. Yeah. Yeah. The place where I got pissed off is where they do the crossover episodes and you're not watching the other show.

Yeah, and you're fucked if you don't watch the other, right? And then you watch the episode that like you watch the Flash crossover episode and then the next episode after that in Flash. Yeah. Like, they've already resolved the storyline because

you didn't watch the other shows. That's what I... They started doing that with like Law and Order in one of those Chicago something or other shows, Chicago Peter or something. And I was like, who the fuck are these people? I don't care.

Yeah, I remember when I used to really be into comic books and they would do those crossovers, like Secret Wars and what was the D.C. one, Brian? Marvel had Secret Wars Wars and Secret Wars too.

Oh, somebody's yelling right now. Oh, I'm sure all the League of Geeks are, or all the geeks are yelling at us right now. What was the D.C.? Were they reset everything? Yeah, it's, uh, that they started everything all over again? Convergence or something like that? You know what? Steve, Steve's yelling at us. I guarantee you.

Oh, damn, I'm going to have to look it out. We'll hear it eventually, unless, unless you look at that. Crisis, infinite crisis. Crisis on infinite Earth's, that's it. Yeah. that's like they're basically like their multiverse where all the worlds came together yep that's right i remember i bought all of them like an idiot which i heard um when they did it for the the flash dw series i heard it was pretty good because they were pulling like

like the old school like tvs dc tv series and the hbl max series and kind of pulling all the actors together kind of like Like Spider-Man did, the one that I didn't like as much, huh? Oh, the awesome movie that you didn't like? I'm going to be re-watching it this next week, so chill out. I'm sure I'm going to love it this time. I just watched Far From Home last night. Oh.

Isn't that the one where they went to Europe, Far From Home? Oh, with Mysterio. No Way Home. See, that's the problem. Yeah, that's Mysterio. Okay, that was pretty good. But I didn't like it as much the first time. So that means I'm probably going to like this crossover one even better, right?

But I rewatch it. I think so. We'll see. I still think nobody can beat Ant Man just because it's Paul Red. Well, you're going to keep trying at least. Brian, I told you I had two cool of the weeks, right? Yep. All right.

So first of all, it has nothing to do with horror. but it's yet another Apple TV Plus show. You guys, big fans of Meyer Rudolph from Saturday. Oh, yeah, I like that. It's pretty funny. Y'all heard of that show, Lute? I've heard of it.

I haven't seen it, though. Yeah, heard of it. It's fucking amazing, man. Is it? Yeah, it is. And the good thing is it's only, I think it's eight episodes, and it's 30 minutes,

or 25 to 30 minutes an episode. so you can get through it really quick. But basically the, she's married to a billionaire who was a computer whiz kid, played by the ever-loving asshole Adam Scott that everyone loves to eat. And he leaves her for like a 21-year-old chick. He's just got a douchebag face. He's perfect for that. He said it right in stepbrothers. when he's talking

Yeah, he's like, you just want to hit me in a fucking face, don't you? I was like, I do. Yeah, even when he's playing the good guy, he still looks like a doucheback. I know, I know. But he's perfect for the role. Yeah. So that sets it up. The first episode, she, you know, he leaves her for this young chick.

And so all of a sudden, she's got like, multi-billion dollars. and she has no idea what to do with it. So first couple of episodes, she goes off and just, you know, fucks around with it. And then she comes to find out that her husband, for a tax write-off purposes, bought into a, you know, kind of like a, I don't know if you would call it like a foundation or something of that nature where basically they're supposed to be helping people,

but the money's not really going to helping people. Oh, you mean like all? all of them. Yeah, like all of them. So a couple of episodes in, she says, you know what, I'm going to take this foundation and actually put money into it and do good things. So the rest of the season is about her trying her best to do good things. But she's, it's really weird. It's like complete culture clash where it's like she gets them all, all the people at work there. She gets them on a private jet. And they're like, this doesn't seem right. We're supposed to be doing good and we're flying around. So it's really awesome because it doesn't really take a political side, but it's just, it's incredibly funny the way that all the awkwardness comes together. So it's a great show if you guys have a little bit of time to put into it, check out loot. Well, that's our nonprofit means.

We have to spend all that money. But you know what is cool about the show is that everyone that's in the show learns from each other, right? So there's certain people that have opinions one way or the other, and they learn the other side. It's like they show you every single side. So it's not like, you know, trying to hitch hit you over the head with one political side or the other. Yeah. It's like people are learning from each other. And it's a really good show. Oh, look at that. Incredibly funny. So you could all stand a little coming together. That's that's totally, well, totally what it's all about.

man, it's a good show. But I'm also, I'm reading, you guys heard of the writer Andy Weir, the author of science fiction author, he wrote The Martian. Oh, okay. Okay, so I'm reading Project Hail Mary. And it's really interesting.

It has already, well, the project, what's that? Football book? Well, it's definitely been, it's already been green lit for a movie. and I think Ryan Gosling is going to play the main character. But it's very interesting because as the book opens up,

you got a guy that wakes up out of stasis, like he's been in a coma asleep for he doesn't know how long. But the other two people that were in the, I guess, like the chambers next to him are dead. They're like mummified. They've been dead forever. And somehow he lived and they didn't. So you slowly start to learn that he's been on this trip for like decades, trying to get from our solar system to another.

Because there's something that's threatening our son, like to block it out, and he has to go to another solar system to try to find a way to fix it. And it's kind of interesting because I don't want to give too much away, but he does meet up with alien life. And it's kind of interesting the way that they learn to communicate, even though they're totally different. So it's a good book, and I'm sure it's going to be a good movie. So, yeah, Project Hail Mary. It's fun. Fun fact. Roger Stalbett coined that term for football.

Yeah, that was a Cowboys thing. So I'm excited about that. There you go, man. Fun fact of the week. There you go. All right. I only got a couple things. Like I said, I had a busy week leading up to my busy weekend.

but I did manage to watch the first episode of the Lord of the Rings of Power Amazon series. I'm not... I enjoyed it. Okay. I haven't heard awesome things. Yeah, a lot of it for some reason is people wanting it to fail before it comes out.

Right. But I think production for a team, series is almost on par with the movies. They're going into a lot of the mythos. This takes place like years before the Hobbit. Ah, okay, so kind of like

House of the Dragon, right? Yeah, so when you actually meet the Hobbits, they're more, they're not as they're they're not as a hobbity. The Shire is not as established as it was.

Right? They're like the lollip. in the movie. So I'm digging it. I'm going to stick with it. I think people that are hating on it, watch it first. Yeah.

It drives me crazy. Like, I always think back to this time I got into an argument with somebody over the, the Han Solo Star Wars movie. They're just like, oh,

this movie is the biggest piece of shit. And I was like, what did you like about it? And they were like, I didn't watch it. I haven't seen it. I was like, I was like, I don't know why I'm even arguing with you.

But I'm digging it. I think there is there's at least two or three episodes out right now. Oh, cool. So did they release a couple, like, the first night? They did, like, two episodes or something like that? Yeah, kind of like what they did with the boys. They released a couple episodes then they go weekly. So I think that's Amazon's.

I think that's how they do things. But my cool of the week is over the weekend, I got to take my daughter to see Jaws in Ireland. Nice. Nice. It was an amazing. I've never seen it on the big screen, so it was a treat for me too.

And just to see that scene and hear that line, we're going to need a bigger boat. Was amazing. The sound was amazing, because I just felt like an IMAX, you just hear all like the little sounds in the movie, like individually. Right.

Like you can hear the waves crashing and little birds chirping, and it was awesome. And what was even more awesome is we went Saturday, which was National Cinema Day, which meant that if it was a regular showing 3D, IMAX, whatever, all tickets were $3.

Oh, that's way awesome. Yeah, so on National Cinema Day, I would have been paying 1850 per ticket for jobs. I only paid $3. Wow. That by itself is worth everything right there, man. Freaking Matt A's at like $12 now. Yeah. Our friend of the show, not to interrupt, man, but friend of the show Patrick Lear said that they are bringing back movie pass.

Really? Yeah, he got an invite. I do. I'm sticking with AMC. I got an invite, too, but I do, I do Regal. I got mostly Regal theaters, and they have their own movie pass. Same exact thing. Yeah, I go with just the AMC A list. So three bucks for jaws, dude.

That's, I think you trumped us all on the cool. You got to get it back, though, right? Didn't you get, like, movie pass for life? That should count. They should give me movie pass for life. when I had movie pass I was going on movies like every day I was watching I was watching shit that I didn't even want to watch

I know it was awesome yeah they sent me an invite I declined yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with AMC for now to it's 20 bucks a month and you can see up to three movies a week and every time you well every time you spend 50 bucks like on

popcorn and shit like that you get or somebody else's ticket you got you got a $5 gift card oh wow so you know hard to beat that yeah regal if you have a regal theater the regal plan is mine is like $23 a month and I can go see a movie like every day oh shit and then I got like discounts on concessions right and you you accumulate points so like you can just exchange those points to get free tickets if you're taking somebody so So that's awesome. Sorry, movie past.

Mars is like independent or something. I don't think it has a thing. No. No. Yeah. Some shit. You can't even go down to the Regal Beagle with Jack, Jack and Larry and the girls, huh? Yeah.

All right. Oh, headlines. Yeah. Brian, I've been drinking all day. Forgive me, guys. That's why I introduce myself as Brian. when we started the show, so you guys were probably going to have to take the reins in this one. We had an awkward pause. I just wanted to see how long it would go.

Okay, my weekly streaming and theater picks coming up, currently now streaming on the Peacock, is Jurassic World Dominion. Streaming on the cock. but if people don't know Peacock is if it's a universal movie that is where they're going to end up is on Peacard they're going to

they're going to end up so how many times you think we breaklands this episode they're going to end up streaming from the cock That's where those movies belong. And my upcoming theater pick is Trick-A-Treat is coming to the theaters for the first time.

Did we kill us? Huh? We kill us? Trick-or-treat. Oh, you alive? No, it's coming back to the big screen? It's never been on the big screen. Wait a minute.

You mean Trick-or-Treat? with a Sam? Yep. So it's coming to the big screen now, right? Yes, officially October 6. Oh, wow. All right. So that's a must see with all the grandkids. So so far that I've announced later this month, we got the 40th anniversary of Poultergeys coming

and trick-a-treat and Dawn of the Dead 3D all coming to the theater within the next couple months. Wow. 40th anniversary of Poultergeist? Yes. That is another one. I'm definitely taking my daughter.

That was like one of the first horror movies I showed her. Well, if you're going to go see that one at the theater, you've got to see the Kevin Bacon one that we covered the same on our episode number one. I mean, do I really have to? I can't remember the name of the, oh, the darkness. You can't ever forget that movie. I can't remember. It's burned its presence into our brains forever.

It sounded like a good idea when we picked that movie. Something tells me 40 years from now we will not still be talking about the darkness. Something tells me 40 years from now we'll be the only one bringing up the darkness. I know. Everybody's going to be like, what are you talking about? The Kevin Bacon movie. They were like, what? I

Footloose? I'm sure people would rather talk about footloose than the darkness. That should be coming up on its 40th year by now, right? Pretty close. I'm sure it's past it, right? Yeah. Is it? Kevin Bacon still looks the same age he did then.

That's what's so creepy. Hollywood vampires. Right? Yeah. him and Tom Cruise. This is a Blu-ray kind of update. I'm only doing this because I'm doing the Amityville series, which episode three did drop this week.

It's about fucking time, dude. Hey, I hear that. Apparently it hasn't hit my download yet. Are you sure it's out? Nez told me this morning that is there. All right, check. You guys go ahead. I'm going to check and make sure it down there.

The Amnivale Horror is being upgraded to 4K. and it has a very nice slip case and everything from Vinegar Syndrome. Nice. They do very great work if you're a physical media collector. I recommend Vinegar Syndrome. They do kind of like obscure movie titles and stuff like that. Amityville Watch, Episode 3, Amityville, I, I, the D, what? The D, hold on.

Sorry, guys. Amityville 3. The haunted D. The demon. The demon. All right. I've got it. Brian.

Brian, it's right here, man. Yes. I see. Sorry. Go ahead, guys. Let's see. As you guys already know, I threw it up on a schedule, but the new Hellraiser movie gets a release date of October 7th on Hulu. Oh.

I didn't see the last one. heard it wasn't bad though. What was it? Hellraiser. What was it, Lance? Revelations or something? You know what? Honestly,

it came out not too long ago, right? The last three or four Hellraiser movies that I've seen have been horrible. One of them had the fat pinhead. Remember that one? Yeah. The typewriter, the weird old typewriter keys that he was typing on. I think after Hellraiser, I'm going to go out of limb. People don't like it.

But I think after four. Because I like three and four. And there's like 12 movies or something. At least. But the pictures came out. They look pretty cool. It's the same company that put out Prey. So I'm optimistic.

And the director is, I probably should have had all this pulled out. David Bruckner he did the last movie I seen that he did was didn't he do the ritual on Netflix yep

yep that's exactly pretty good so very very optimistic very hopeful about this one so

okay and it's on Hulu so it's bad you know we didn't have to go theater and see it he did the nine house too right

yep okay not a lot of news I'm seeing double check Lance do you like the actress you watch the what is it servant is that the show

oh yeah of course on Apple TV Plus yeah the actress I think she's one of the main she's got a weird name Neil Tiger Free yeah tiger she's definitely freaky she's weird

she's been cast in the Omen prequel, the first Omen. She will play the lead. Well, she's definitely creepy. Wanted to get your thoughts. Is she a good actress? Because I've only seen one episode. Dude, yeah. Servin is great, man.

And she's, yeah, she's, she's. Can she carry a movie? I believe she could. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I think she's got the talent. Maybe this will be her breakout role. Yeah. Although she's pretty damn good and serve it, man.

A lot of people, I think a lot of people watch it. I don't know if you guys have, but I hear about it a lot. The director, I'm going to butcher his first name. Arakasha Stevenson, he's directed episodes for Legion, Channel Zero, brand new cherry flavor. So he's done a lot of popular TV shows. Okay. Yeah.

A lot of horror stuff. I hope since this is a prequel to the omen, I would like to see more about, like, the followers that were always kind of lurking around. That's kind of what I gather from it, like the setup to the demon lord being born. Well, the whole third season of the show we were just talking about, Servant. It has to do with a lot of homeless people that start, because. becoming like a cult and they actually follow her. So, huh, maybe she'll parlay that into the role of being the leader of the cult or something like that. There you go.

And Ari Aster has announced that he is producing an A24 comedy called Dream Scenario starring Nicholas Cage. Well, you had me in Nicholas Cage. Yeah, I don't know what to say. about that. Interesting. Ari Oster is involved. Nick Cage is involved. 824.

Mostly, I enjoy them. Every now and then there is that one that I just didn't, not that I didn't enjoy, I just probably didn't get. Well, yeah, it's weird

for sure, but their stuff is typically pretty high production value. True, true. Hopefully, though, Philip, he does. doesn't, if he's going to produce it only, hopefully he doesn't do like the guy you're always bitching about

that you wish he would direct instead of just produce. James Wannett. Oh, gosh. There was something recently that he, another thing that he's producing. James Wann? Yeah, every time I hear James Wann. Another fast and curious movie, maybe.

Well, because I always get excited when I hear his name, and then I'm like, oh, he's just producing it. This movie's going to suck. A couple more things here. Jordan Peel teases there could be more stories in the Nope universe. I heard about that. I don't know how, but I'm game. I'm cool with that. It kind of sounds like if there would be another one, it wouldn't have nothing to do with the characters from the first movie. Would it be the same species of alien, though?

Never know with Jordan Peel. Okay. And lastly, where to go? There we are. Mr. Harrigan's phone. Ah, the Stephen King novella. Yes, coming to Netflix, October 5th, just in time for the Halloween season. Ah, man, we're going to have so much to watch in October, it sounds like.

Yep, because the last couple of years, I've been doing 31 days all, uh, excuse the helicopter in the background. All 31 days, I've been trying to pick 31 movies that I've never seen before. So this kind of helps with that. It's a good way to do it, man. And from what I see, that is the news. I can't find it, but I'm sure James Mawin is producing something. All right.

Philip, you're ready to get it into the trailer park? Let's do it. All right. Brian's going to bring us the big, the small. and sometimes the very, very weird. Is our first trailer pretty weird, Brian? I would say so. It's a unique idea to begin with,

and that is Winnie the Pooh, Blood, and Honey, a new slasher film coming. Quick synopsis. I kind of can't wait. Yeah? It follows Pooh and Piglet as they go on a rinket. Pampage after Christopher Robinson abandons them for college. This stars.

Really? Natasha Toshini. Amber. The Oak Thorne. May Kelly, Mariah Taylor, Craig David Dossett, Richard D. Myers. I haven't heard of a single one of them. Directed by Ray, Rays, Waterfield. which he said he plans on doing a Peter Pan slasher movie and a Thor slasher movie.

I'm going to say after watching this trailer, I am totally with this movie. It seems so fucking ridiculous that these characters are alive. And fucking Christopher Robinson abandon them and then unleash their raging onto the world. I mean, we're all going to watch. it but and the moment we see winnie the poo he is napping some chick's neck but is this really winnie the poo or is this just like some uh killers that are dressed up like winnie the piglet don't ruin it for me lance it's winnie the poo it depends if he has pants or not it's winnie the poo that would make a movie micky mouse if it's just winnie the poo and piglet

and they're just they're bottomless through the whole movie there's just shirt cocking it killing people I don't know I think at the least I mean is it going to be good I don't know but do I think it's going to be fun yeah I think it's going to be fun I think the kills are going to be

over the top of violence they better be I like as we're watching the trailer I like how everybody's playing it's serious and I think they're doing it on purpose to because it is ridiculous So,

I'm doing it. And all that shit. It looks a little creepy. Does it? A little bit. Lance, this is going to be this year's cycle gorman for you. You think so? Yeah.

That would be great, dude. Because I've already got my top ten list full. So I'm, anything from here on out is death of but honey. Blood and honey. dude it's been a good year for movies man it has it really has good ones this year I'm having trouble coming up with a bottom 10 list

I mean that that shark movie helped and then somebody told me to watch the other shark movie Brian that came out in January what was called the was it the one with the girl from E.T. in it or some other blonde girl or oh you're talking about the one me and this reviewed. Yes, yes.

Alicia Silverstone. Alicia Silverstone, there you go. What was it called? Don't watch it. Just go ahead and put it in your bottom tape. Just put it in your bottom. Yeah. Okay.

What was it called again? I can't think of the name. Clueless sharks. That would have been better because she was. I hated her character so much. I wanted her to die immediately. I was brooding for the, I was rooting for the shark. Were you?

Yes. That's always a good sign. Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey release date. I am trying to find it. Philip, you can't remember the name of that shark movie? Oh, I have no idea. Do we cover it? No, no, but Brian and Nez did.

Yeah, I watched it, and then Nez happened to be watching it. And then when he's seen him when I was watching, he was like, we need to review this right now. It was that fucking stupid. Was it that bad? Yes. Didn't get the hell of good Sanpon. I cannot find a release date

because I didn't have I was not prepared. It may be next. No, I think it's getting it's getting released this year. Yeah. Because I was kind of looking as movies.

The Requiem. That's it. I had to look it up. Fucking stupid movie. My bottom 10 is going to be kind of hard to this year, Lance. It's going to be Shark heavy?

It's mostly my bottom 10 is probably going to be movies that I didn't really hate, but I needed to put something in my bottom 10. Fire starter? Because I didn't hate it. Have you watched the Amityville movies already? One of those has got to make it. Well, something that came out. I haven't watched any Amityville that came out this year.

Not yet. I'm sure there's been six or seven. Yeah, I still got to watch Amityville Thanksgiving. I like, Ouch. Haunted turkeys. We should do a commentary on what is it?

Paltry Geist. Or thanks killing. I think we might. I think we might, right? Don't you have a schedule for one? Yeah, it's neither going to be thanks killing or paltry guys. Okay.

That's our only trailer this week. All right. Let's move on to listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on the buzzed kill podcast. The Buzzkill podcast is a weekly show dedicated to all things booze and blood. Crack a bottle and join us as we discuss all manners of horror movies from new releases to old favorites and everything in between. The buzzed kill. A good name.

Awesome, guys. Regarding Los Espukis. the Coltavarian says Love this show and Anna Banana says it's such an underrated show I'm excited for season two deliciously hilarious and irreverent and our buddy Al Ram Sores

says first season was very good straight subtitles if I remember Yeah I see this pop up on HBO Max when I pull up the app It pops up but never watched it but when I posted the poster and trailer for the new season, like it just people started to comment and left and right on him. Okay.

So give it a try. Yeah, doesn't look bad. Regarding the upcoming Tusk sequel. Oh, that's right. There is a Tusk sequel coming. Adam Blunch says, wait, what? I listen to all Kevin Smith podcasts. How do I not know this?

I'm totally in. This is something Kevin just recent. recently came out with that he is going to I don't think it's confirmed that he's that it's happening but it's something he wants to do so they're going to get a Harry Potter back was it Harry Potter I think so yeah Daniel Redcliffe or Elijah uh Justin Long just in Long you're right I like Justin Law. They couldn't take him out the damn Walrus suit? I don't know. He is the Walrus suit now.

Lance Tuss, too. What do you think? I'm all for it, man. I enjoyed Tusk, but whatever happened to Moose Knuckles or whatever that third one was. His Canadian Jaws movie? Yeah. I thought he was going to do a trilogy.

That's Canadian trilogy. I don't know. He's starting to. How many sharp attacks are in Canada? Well, it's going to involve a moose. Okay. I don't know, he's coming. He's starting to be like Guillermo del Toro.

Yeah. He announces a lot of projects and he doesn't really follow up on him. Sure. Maybe he'll produce it. But I was just asking Phil, why, at the end of Tusk, why didn't they just take him out of the suit? Because the suit is him now. Like, they surgically made him. I think it's not a suit.

Yeah, there was surgery involved, right? So if they used surgery to take him out of the suit, he'd die or something? Yeah, I mean, I think it was like his organs and shit were in there. I got to rewatch us now. You probably don't. It was okay, but. I mean, I didn't hate it. I thought it was super weird.

Yeah. And I thought the, I can't remember. remember the actor's name, the guy that put him in this. Yeah, he was amazing. Yeah, he passed away, didn't he? Did he? Oh, did he? I think he passed. So, I think he kind of made the movies, but I don't even know what they would do since he passed, so.

Yeah, because the kid that was, that played the, that played the, the walrus. Justin Long. Yeah, wasn't he the one that lost his eyeballs and, the one with the creeper? The one that used to rape little boys? Oh, the cheapest creepers directed by the real creeper? That's right.

Yes. The actor that was in Tuss that passed away was Michael Parks. Yes. Oh, he was really good, man. And I think I saw him at something where he played like, didn't he play a cult leader in a movie? Red State. And he was incredibly, he had me convinced.

I was ready to join that cult. He was really, really good in that role. He was the sheriff in the beginning from Dust Hill Dawn. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Okay. And he also shows up as the same character in like Quentin Tarantino movies. That's right, with his son or something, right?

Yeah. That's right. All right. Let's see. regarding hocus pocus two Chase the Smoke 914 says please for fuck's sake no

the first one was god awful I loved it I love it you my friend Chase the Smoke 914 you don't have to watch it just like I've seen people getting mad about

the last Shehawk episode because she was twerking with Megan the Stallion shout out Megan the Stalien from Texas. She had an after-credit scene where she twerked and people were like,

I'm not watching Disney Plus shows no more. Oh, come on, man. Don't fucking watch it then. Don't watch it. Oh, Jesus Christ, man. 30-second post-credit scene. Oh, come on. Is that what that was all about?

That's all a good fun. Come on. Because Megan does a cameo, and then in the post-credit scene, she becomes a client, which kind of hints that in the MCU, Megan Estalian might have powers. But it was like a...

Oh, she has powers, all right. She's got a lot of her power behind her. But it was, the whole scene was for comedic purposes. Of course. And there was people that just like, I don't take it too seriously. This is the problem with the MCU and this is Disney.

I don't think Disney was like, we need more twerking. Right. Like that's canon. now, right? Yeah, let's, I don't know. Like we talked about it a couple weeks ago, I think people, they, they look for something to get mad about so they can jump on their computers or phones and, yeah, well, type

away. Sure. I still haven't watched it, but. Yeah, I'm way behind. I hear nothing but bad things. I heard the first episode, about that she had, and then it kind of. I've heard all good, I've heard only good things, man. Yeah.

Really? No, I, I've enjoyed all three episodes so far. The first episode was the best. Well, I already know they have a shout out to Wolverine, but it's not what you would think. It's not like it's showing him. It's just like an article in an online newspaper type thing. Yeah, it's like the show, like if you rewatch the episodes like a couple times. Right.

There's like so many Easter eggs setting up other things. They're good at that. We still haven't even gotten Daredevil yet. Ah, okay. And spoilers. How about the Punisher? Has Punisher shown up? You know, John Bernthal has not said anything,

but I know, I can't think of her name that plays Jessica Jones. She kind of hinted that she's coming back as Jessica Jones. That would be great. Yeah, that would be great, too. I wouldn't even mind the guy that played Iron Fist to come back. It's just put him in the mask and have somebody else do the fighting. well maybe he's better by now I don't know

and stop telling everybody you're that you're bored of our own fist let's do that too can we get can we get Luke Cage back too I heard a rumor that I heard a rumor the actor is coming back to

they have to man I mean if they're gonna bring if they're gonna if they're gonna bring dare devil back they kind of have to bring the rest of them back to I think yeah I definitely think John Burr

I'll have come back as the Punisher. Oh, yeah. I'd love to it. I would, honestly, I'd love to see a Defender's movie. A lot of people were really, you know, they were like, oh, this sucks. The Defender sucks. But I kind of enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

I just think they didn't stick the way. I mean, what bothered you? Sigourney Weaver as the main villain. I didn't mind Sigourney Weaver being the villains. It's just she didn't do anything. Yeah, but she kind of had a reason for, wanting to do what she was doing, you know? Yeah, but kind of, I don't know,

because they showed the other, the older agent lady, that was a part of her thing. And when they showed her, do a little fight scene, she, like, knocked Daredevil back like 15 feet. And I'm like, okay, you got some powers for her old lady. What can you do, Sigourney Weaver? And then you did nothing but talk.

Okay. Now, fair enough. I kind of forgot about that one. And it kind of hurts when you got, Vincent Donofrio kind of overshadowing everybody as a villain. Sure. Netflix shows. Why do you think he's in the MCU again now?

Yeah, I'm excited. He's back. All right. Sarah Snow says, instead of Elf on a shelf in December, let's do a doll in the hall in October. You take a creepy porcelain doll that your kids already believe is haunted and keep it secretly moving it around the house. For extra festive touch,

Put the doll right in bed with one of the kids, too. My family would physically fight me if I did that. It's not happening in this house. I have a whole new generation of damaged people. When my daughter was five years old, I got her elf on the shelf. Ah, okay. And I did the thing where I moved it, and it scared the shit out of her. We had to get rid of it.

So just imagine the porcelain doll, huh? Wouldn't happen. Tired of trying to find a new place to stick it at five o'clock morning. No shit. Regarding Mr. Harrigan's phone, Zim Vader says, nice. I'm always moist for some new king. All right.

Excellent way to put it. It's going to be on our out-of-context quotes segment. right regarding the new upcoming Friday the 13th movie Zim Vader says are Kane Hodder

and or Corey Feldman any chance of getting their wishes granted and being cast in this I would love for Kane Hodder to come back as Jason and I did

give that Corey come back you know he was the one he was in was one of my favorites so bring that character back and it looks like this is might actually be happening.

I read from multiple different people saying that a new one's coming next year. So, maybe they got all the legal shit settled finally. I'm always up for Cory Feldon. As long as he's not singing.

You might be. You might be dancing and singing. You might have his... You know what? I'd watch that too. Might have his dancers with him. Yeah. I think I've seen one show. They were all dressed up like angels or something.

Yeah. That's the one everybody made fun of, and he got all upset. He did he was funny. Regarding Shutter's 101 scariest movies of all time, Zim Vader says, I fear this will be a drawn-out compilation of low-hanging fruit. And Rai Guy says, not a whole lot of these days that aren't.

Not a whole lot of these days that aren't. Not a whole lot these days. that aren't in my bed and redundant times to get it right. Yeah, make sense. I'm still going to watch it, though. Yeah. Shudder is there, if anybody's going to do a 101, you know, scariest movies of all time, I think Shudder or the one we've been talking about

recently, Screenbox, you know, one of these companies should be doing it. So. Yeah. And it's going to, it's a list. So we're not going to agree with everything on the list. Not everybody will agree, right? We're not going to agree. Something might be should be lower on the list or higher or not even on the list or something might get left off. You never, no one's ever going to be happy with the list.

That's why they make the lists. Rolling Stone is terrible about that. Are they? Yeah, they'll make some really bad lists just so people can talk shit. That's funny. Yeah, one they recently did. The 100 greatest hip-hop albums of all time was fucking garbage. Yeah, most of them were.

The worst list. I just printed the 100 greatest rock rock albums of all time from Rolling Stone. And half of them I can't even get through Amazon music. They're not even on there. Only Rolling Stone has access. Right? because they're And they know it

Maybe in the vein of Winnie the Pooh, blood and honey They'll do 101 pit bulls Instead of 101 Dalmatians Well, the Exorcist better be at the top of that list I'm going to say The Exorcist is going to be At 101

It's going to be top five Definitely It better be Sorry for the airplane now All right, that's it for listener feedback. As always, our show comes from Steve Carlton, from The Geeks. And be on the lookout for more great stuff from Steve. Our artwork comes from Natsulani.

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Nice. And give us a place to stay, too. So you guys are really, really, really kicking in way more than we ever thought. What a cool show that week. As would be. Yeah. So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. you for the bottom of our hearts i'm gonna i'm gonna pick a very special movie i won't say what it is we

will do a live commentary uh-oh blood and honey if it's out by then we'll do a there'll be plenty of comments made and plenty of drinking plenty of winnie the poo penis flopping around if we're lucky Uh, now it's time for our main attraction. So is, is piglet like going like full bush or? Is piglet a boy or girl? Piglet's a girl, right? Picklet's a girl, right?

I can't remember. Did we break Lance again? Okay, I'm going to have to look this up. They're going to have some weird, like, bear pig children, man bear pig. All right. Scream like a pig. Oh my gosh. Piglet is a male.

Oh, no. Okay. So I guess we're... Okay. Look. I hate to say this guys. The kangaroo. This is 2022.

I'm sorry. But we have to say piglet is a day. That's pretty good way to describe. I thought Piglet was female this whole time. Piglets are they, man. Come on, dude. Don't be, don't be sexist. All right. You're going to get us canceled. We're going to move on from that conversation before I say something stupid.

That's my turn this week. This week, weeks we salute the streaming service shutter with what Josiah saw. And glorious. Interesting movies. I think we should hit the spoiler alert now, since these are new movies. Yeah. Okay. So. These are being new movies, ma'am.

So, spoiler alert now. Go watch it. And come back. Yes. All right. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right, let's start with what Josiah saw. Old T-1000 himself. A family with buried secrets reunites at a farmhouse after two decades to pay for their past sins. Director is Vincent Groshaugh, also known for Coldwater. Okay? Coldwater.

Cold water is refreshing. Not Cobra Kai. Cold water, okay. Writer is Robert Allen Diltz, also known of the upcoming anatomy. Okay. Robert Patrick and Nick Stahl both appear in the Terminator franchise.

Nick Stahl. Oh, he played John Connor. Yeah, part three. I knew he looked familiar. Okay, okay. As soon as I seen both of them, I just heard in my head called to John. Right. Was that Eli?

Now I get it. Yeah. Now I get it. Okay. All right. He was in the third Terminator, the one with the female Terminator and made her boobs bigger. That was a bad one. The shittiest tournamentator.

Wow. It's a good thing. already did spoiler alert because it's going to be hard to talk about these without yeah I mean yeah we'll just we'll just talk since we already hit spoiler just we'll just give our reviews

pop monster selves type of thing okay that's cool all right Lance you want to start us out on what Josiah saw oh yeah beautifully filmed movie man I mean I don't I don't know why these people haven't done more you know movies like this director maybe it was a really

good cinematographer or something like that that's done a lot of stuff because this was a beautifully film movie. Even when the credits started, I just thought this looks like something that's like super high budget, even though you could kind of tell it wasn't. And I thought the acting was really good. I got really confused because it's like the movie was like in three parts, right? Because you always talk about the three acts of a movie, but it was almost like it was three different movies, which I thought was really weird. But everybody did a great job acting.

There was nothing about this that I would have said, you know, I wouldn't have wanted to watch this film. And, yeah, got a lot out of it. I was incredibly surprised because I really thought it was just mainly going to be, you know, the two or three main actors through the whole movie that started out early. But then you started getting all of these women in the, in the movie. and different family members and stuff like that. I don't know if it was a flashback. I'm a little bit confused on what was going on. Maybe you guys can, you know, help out.

The time frame was weird, huh? Yeah, the time frame was super weird, but incredibly beautifully shot film. And it was really neat at the beginning when you got the fact that the guys were out on a farm and having to roll up their sleeves and do a lot of work. And, you know, the tractor was breaking down. you have the diesel

diesel it made sense later why it did it did and why the house looked the way it did and

I can't say too many bad things about this movie I mean it it was a joy to watch and you know it was it was a gorgeously shot film again I was incredibly confused

with the with the movie itself and the you know, the directions that it took and stuff like that. But as far as the framing of it, the way that it was put together, I think it was pretty masterfully done. And, yeah, the, what was he, the T-1,000 or the T-3,000 or? Yeah, T-1,000.

T-1,000. Yeah, he was good, man. And I will tell you this. They didn't mind having their own full whiskey bottle to drink out of. They didn't, they didn't share. they each had their own and they love to get drunk and

and get crazy and then pass out so my kind of movie I enjoyed it passing out over Thomas's special brew his home home recipe not a bad movie

not a bad movie uh Brian what do you think I enjoyed this one I didn't really know much about it coming in I've seen the post and saw that Robert Patrick and Nick Stahl wearing it. So I was like, okay, this might be interesting.

And I'm glad Nick Stahl's kind of, I've been seeing him pop up in more movies. I know he had a rough time in his life and had some problems and kind of derailed his career a little bit. So it's good to see him pop up because I think he can, he's a really good actor, given the right, you know, movie that he's in. Right. Robert Patrick. this one. Yeah, Robert Patrick's, he's always awesome. I see that he brought his hairdo from Peacemaker over to this movie. Yeah, I kind of, that was the only, that was the only problem that I had is, like, I expected him to, to join the KKK there for a minute. The white dragon.

He just walks around looking like that all the time. For some reason, I picture him as his character from Sons of Anarchy. Yeah, that makes more. That's how he walks around. Sure, sure. I recognize the actress that plays Mary. I've seen her before. I couldn't think of what she's in.

But I thought I did get a little confused, but it kind of all came together for me near the end. Yeah. And I like how they kind of broke it up in the chapters, kind of telling each sibling what their lives, were after they left the house. The only character I got confused about was Thomas. Okay.

Because when you're introduced to his character, he seems kind of mentally challenged, kind of a little bit slow. Yeah, they at least allude to that. Yeah, but by the end of the movie, he kind of just more seemed like he was just confused. And crazy? Yeah. Yeah. and I like to reveal that

Robert Patrick Josiah was never really there at least physically he wasn't there and it just kind of made on that one until it made sense like I said with the house being dilapidated and the tractor not working is because nobody's been there for years

and it just like the just everything came together nicely just how he was trying to be friends with that kid and I was like this is kind of creepy they want him to stay away then it's revealed that that's his son and that's why he's always trying to see him I'm like okay the kind of made me feel better that he's just not yeah it'd be weird how many people in the town can have that same stupid haircut yeah uh I liked uh Nick stall Eli's story because that that went crazy real fast that one was interesting on its own

with the gypsies Mary's story was really sad especially when you get her backstory with her father what he was doing with her because he was beating everybody he was beating the boys but he was diddling her at night

and I thought that was just was he or was it her him and the brother I think when Thomas spoke of past sins I think the father did that to her when she was younger but as she got older I think the past sins that he was talking about

was her and his brother's relationship together that and what they did to their father because they ended up killing their father for all the abuse that he was doing to them. Yeah. I have a whole lot less issues with that than banging your sister. Yeah. Because it wasn't, when they showed the scene,

it wasn't like one was into it more than the other. No, they both were fully on board with banging each other. Right, right, right. It was really fucking uncomfortable. Yeah. But a lot of this movie was really uncomfortable. Yeah, they did a good job of showing, like, when they were speaking of people's sins and all the wrongdoings they're doing,

they did a good job of painting that picture. And I did not predict that outcome either. I didn't see all of them dying and Thomas being the one. And the only thing I kind of wanted to know was the mother there, too, because we get these scenes of Josiah by himself. Yeah. So is this Thomas hallucinating Josiah by himself seeing something or? Well, I think it was a ghost that was there.

Yeah. So we agreed Josiah was, the spirit was there. Yeah. So did Josiah's spirit see something else? I guess so. Another spirit there. Yeah. That was my main question because.

I thought the mother was long gone at that point. Because my question was Why would Thomas Why would Tom be resonating something that His father's by himself seeing Right, right? It didn't make sense, so

But other than that, I thought the movie was great And I thought everybody did a fantastic job. Lance, I agree with you. This was well shot. Everything looked great. Everything was well acted. And definitely, like I said, I really like Nick Stahl.

So I hope we start to see more of him. Because I believe he was in that movie I liked last year with the, what the fuck is his name from Chuckie? Played the dad. He had two roles. Devon Sawa. He's in that movie Hunter Hunter with the, he wasn't Hunter Hunter. And he was good at that one. You're right.

You're right. He was great in that one. Yes. That's what I saw him from last year. Yeah, because he has been in quite a bit since the old John Connor turn in termination. Oh, God, that was so bad. I just didn't see him as John Connor. I don't know, man.

The more I think about it, the guy's got talent. I mean, he's a hell of an actor. And he was really good in this. I mean, you have to admit, his story was the best. He kind of stole the show. I mean, he was great. I think the first movie he was in was with Mel Gibson. It was the movie The Man Without a Face.

Okay. Oh, yeah. That's been a while. Yeah, and he was, for him, I haven't seen that movie in a while, and I thought he was great in that for, you know, being a child actor and being his first feature link movie. I thought he was, showed a lot of talent. So, and he shows it in this movie because. Yeah, I think so. A lot of fucked up things.

His character and his family go through. Yeah. It, uh, I feel like it took him a while to get there. But like, up until the gypsy scene. I was like, all right, where are we going with this? Because it was just sort of a bunch of scenes strung together, and I didn't really know what was going on. Oh, that gypsy scene was crazy.

That was cool. When the gypsy scene in his head, why he was there? Yeah. I was like, get the fuck out of there. They know. I loved that the old gypsy fortune teller lady was like real fortune telling stuff. I thought that was cool. Yeah, I think it was beautifully shot.

It just took it a minute to get there. And it was a weird movie, a very uncomfortable movie, especially towards the end. But it was worth watching. You know, that one is one that will probably stick with me for a while, you know. Creepy, but it was good. It just took a while to get to the creepy. Like the beginning was a little bit creepy, but nothing really happened. Which I kind of liked, man.

I kind of like the slow burn. Yeah. To be honest. Yeah, it was a slow burn, but it was like, I guess they were building stuff. You just didn't realize that they were building stuff. It just seemed like a lot of disjointed shit. Yeah, like I said, it felt like it was three separate movies. Yeah.

It really did. It honestly, I mean, I guess it was four chapters, but it felt like three for some reason to me. It kind of felt like you got the first part and then you have to. second where, you know, John Connor got into all the trouble that he got into, and, you know, that was the me to the movie. And then you had this completely weird thing at the end where all the female actors showed up. Yeah. All the other family members.

And it's like it expanded from there, you know? Yeah. I wasn't entirely sure who the sister was at first. And her story, I was trying to, when they showed it, I was trying to figure out what is going on. because she seems like mentally, you know, I guess the best way I could put it mentally fucked up. Yeah, right. And then you flash back to her childhood,

and I'm like, okay, that's why you're, you know. So I thought she did a great job. I thought she did a great job. I really, you know, felt that from her character out of her performance, you know, that she had a lot of trauma and pain. Yeah, I like her too. I've seen her in stuff. I couldn't tell you what it was.

But yeah, she's pretty good. It confused me on the time frame, though. Like when she, when it showed her working out to like some dubstep or whatever, I was like, dude, I thought we were in like the 70s or something. What is going on? That way, didn't it? So I didn't know if they did like a time jump or what. It wasn't until her brother showed back up that I finally clicked.

I was just like, oh, I don't understand. Oh, okay, that's where I recognize her from. Did you guys ever see that movie bully that also had Nick Stallman? What's the book? Bully, it's the guy that directed that movie kids in the 90s. Huh. He did this movie bully. It's about, basically these kids getting bullied by one of their friends, and they end up,

it's based off a true story. They just, like, changed the names in the movie, and they end up killing the guy that's bullying them and try to get rid of the body. sounds interesting if you you got you guys seen kids right I don't know I think so is that like a quasi documentary or something like that where it kind of they film it to make it look like a documentary sort of kids like that movie in the 90s like you had to watch drugs and they're fucking with people kind of like Alex Alex and the druggies from the clockwork orange right Yeah, it was one of those movies in the 90s, like, everybody heard about it and they had to see it.

Yeah, I've seen it in a while. The guy that made that... Go ahead. I wasn't that big of a fan, Brian. The guy that made... It was okay. The guy that made that made bully. And bullies...

I haven't seen bullying. Check it out. It's pretty good. Okay. All right. So... There's some definite art house shit going on down tonight, Philip. Any questions, spoiler-wise, for this movie?

I think we really covered everything. Mine was just whether or not she got dittled by dad and the brother, or if it was just the brother and it was wrong? I think everything we've seen in a flashback as a child happened. Yeah. Okay. And I think that led to her kind of maybe thinking it's okay to, to have another relationship with another family member.

And it's okay because he treats me better than my father. I don't know. I'm just trying to. No, that makes sense. And what you said, Brian, about the house, you know, that's why the house isn't kept up. That kind of, I didn't catch all that when I was watching it, like when he was scraping away at the paint, the old paint on the side of the house, stuff like that. Yeah, because I was like, like, why the fuck up they fit? This house up.

Yeah, because he was, Josiah was like, we got some chores we need to do. And I was like, you don't do shit around here. And they played it off. When you're a ghost. They played it off so good because that whole conversation of when he's sitting there,

they're all sitting there at the table. And then all of a sudden, Eli is just like, who are you talking to? Yeah, that was the moment that it clicked. Yeah, that's a trip.

I was like, oh, Josiah is not there, at least not there. front of them right see and my wife called out the brother-sister relationship as soon as she as she drove up and saw her brother's truck there she was like that's why she's so fucked up she slept with her brother uh it's like what sure enough wow holy smoke man but yeah the that the scene i brought up earlier with josiah saying something when he was by him quote-unquote by himself was a little confusing

and then something else. Oh, the whole was the Thomas mentally challenged because there were scenes when he wasn't. Like the flashback, he really didn't seem like when he was holding his son.

He just kind of came off to me like he wasn't. And then in the scenes in the beginning of the movie, he seems like he really was. And then near the end he just seemed like he was confused and crazy and I don't know, I was just

confused. I was really, that was probably my most confused I was about the movie was Thomas's mind state. All right, good movie. All right, scores. Lans, what do you think? Seven. Okay, yeah, solid. Brian?

Seven and a half. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna go, I think seven and a half sounds pretty good. I'll go with that. I hadn't made up my mind until now. All right. Sounds like everybody who has a shutter should check this out.

Yeah, a worthwhile movie. I'm kind of surprised it was a straight-to-shutter release, but it sort of makes sense because it's kind of archie. Well, it looked very theatrical. Like I said, from the very beginning, it looked to me like something that would be in the theater. But, hey, man, if it's coming right to shutter and we're paying for it anyway, why not, right?

Yeah. A better than you would expect for VOD. I wouldn't be surprised if. If the director or a cinematographer, anybody from this movie, we see them attached to bigger films in the future. That's kind of what I was thinking, too, man. That's why I was thinking somebody that was involved in this must have done something, you know, a lot bigger budget. But then again, maybe this was a labor of love. So like you say, Brian, maybe they'll be attached to something soon.

Yeah, that's why I like watching these independent movies or these short films because, you know, you could be seeing somebody's somebody working on something that goes on to it like sure like the recent episode of ESP shorts which you guys should be subscribed to the skaternets podcast network I talked about the short film Slet yep that director Chloe Akuno went on to direct that movie watcher that's I did yep I do remember you talking about that I was I was asking you Where is that movie streaming? Is it just on YouTube? Currently,

oh, Slet is on... Yes, slut. Many times can I say Slet. I mean, no, it sounds really... It sounds really good, dude. I mean, you've sold me on the movie. If you have Shutter, there is a film festival called Etheria,

where they focus on female writers and directors. I believe it's season two on there. That's what it... So how do you... How do you spell Etheria? That's what I was having trouble with, dude. Trying to have me spell. E-T-H-E-R-A?

E-R-I-A. I think E-R-I-A. Okay. Hopefully somebody from Ethereum is not listening and be like, damn it, spell it right. Hopefully they are. Yeah, here it is. Etheria Film Festival Shudder.

Should be season. Uncut. There you go. Best of Ethereum. Should be season two. Okay, cool. All right. Found it.

Okay. But a lot of those female directors and writers on there have done great things, and they went on to do bigger things. And that's what I love. Like the episode I did before, I did a short film called Portal, No Escape. That was done by the director that did Prey. Oh, okay. So he did like a little. I never played it.

It's based off that video game portal. I don't think I ever played it either. Yeah, but he did like a little three-minute short film, and now he's doing 10 Cloverfield Lane and Prey and all this kind of shit. So I like seeing that kind of stuff. What of the new movies on the Ethereum Film Festival for this year is called Come Fuck My Robot. Yes. Got to check that one out.

Okay. We're probably not too far from that. If you don't have shut, if you don't have, if you don't have, if you don't have, if you don't have shutter go to a YouTube channel called Alter. It's all like horror and thriller short films. And Lance, check out

Dust YouTube channel. It's a sci-fi short film channel. Nice. All right. We'll do. All right. On to glorious. After a breakup, West ends up at a

remote rest stop. He finds himself locked inside the bathroom with a mysterious figures speaking from an adjacent stall with a glory hole. Soon Wes realizes he's involved in a situation more terrible than he can imagine. Although being stuck in a bathroom rest stop with a glory hole and a guy talking to you is pretty bad to begin with. Director is Rebecca McKendry, also known for Psycho Granny. and all the creatures were stirring. What is Psycho Granny?

I have not seen them. I've seen all the creatures were stirring. That's pretty good. Yeah? She's actually Dr. Rebecca McKenry. Oh, let me know that. She teaches courses on horror movies and stuff and does podcasts. She's super cool.

Dr. McKendry. Writers are Joshua Hall, David Ian McKendry, and Todd Rigney. Although his father is never directly identified, Gatineothoa You got a pinch the tip of your time and talk of the sons of the legendary Lovecraftian god Kutulu. Brian, would you think about glorious?

I like this one. Yeah. It was a little. slow. It picked up in certain spots more than others, but I liked it. I like this weird setting

of this fucking dirty-ass rest stop that this guy who before he goes in there, he's obviously going through some things. He's freaking out in his car. He's burning all his stuff. Looks like he's burning somebody else's stuff. So, immediately, I get

breakup or something. and he's getting drunk, passes out in this bathroom, wakes up. There's somebody talking to him from the stall, which happens to do have a gloryhole with some pretty awesome artwork around you. Somebody took some time to paint that sucker. Yeah, no shit. Not like any glory hole I've ever seen. Yeah, and he can't leave this bathroom because he, and then he starts talking to this person,

which is kind of comedic. Yeah. because there's a lot of comedy in this one yeah because you know why would you talk to someone in a stall who does not want you to see them is claiming to be a god and there's a glory hole on the side so why are you talking to this person and definitely some red flags especially when he's especially when he sounds like j jona jameson yes which i i don't know if i just wasn't paying attention to the credits but When I heard Jake Simmons's voice, I was like, that's a pretty big get for this movie. Oh, that's him? I mean, dude, seriously, you can't not realize that's him, man? I loved the voice. It just didn't click that it was him.

But, yeah, I loved that whole character. And I just liked everything that, the conversation, the back and forth with them, I loved. And I fucking laughed my ass off when he's basically asking him to all. offer him something. Right. And of course he's going to stick his dick into Gloria hole. It's a glory hole. That's what I thought. Sure. And I like how

I can't say, I can't pronounce his name. So I'm just calling J.K. Simmons. Right. J.K. Simmons is basically repulsed that he stuck his dick in there. He's like, no, that's not what I meant. What the hell is that? I like that whole

reveal. And then I like to reveal that this fucking guy is a fucking serial killer. Yeah. Right. And I'm just kind of like you did a whole like turn on a twist because I was kind of rooting for this guy to get out of here. I'm like, you deserve whatever you get. Yeah. And I just like that whole turn.

And it's, it's like I said, it was, it's in parts it's a slow burn. But it wasn't really a slow burn because this movie came in like, what, an hour 20. Okay. So it's shorter than most films. Right. even though I said it was slow in places I was not bored at all with this movie

I thought the writing was great interesting setup yeah I like the look of the creature when we got to see some of it it makes sense reading Phil you reading up the trivia

that it's related to the love crafting of God Cthulhu sorry for the dog right that does make sense so it great movie

I had heard nothing about this I think Lance you recommended us do this one you've heard about this movie yeah and I've heard a lot of people talk about it like it's one of the better movies of the year I may not quite agree it's a good movie

but it's it's okay it's not as good as I was hoping it would be really it's not yeah it kind of it disappointed me a little bit guys It really did. I mean, yeah, you got to love Jay K. Simmons being the voice

of like an elder god or whatever. You wanted more glory. A whole action, huh? Yeah, I wanted more gloryhole action, dude. I really did. I really, no, I just, I was a little, I was a little disappointed with it. I've got to be honest with you.

I expected more. I really thought that, I mean, I like the fact that they kept it kind of like in one room. It kind of reminded me, what was that movie that we saw last year where they put their hand through the door and it almost got bitten off

and then the snake came in the back they were only one bathroom when the demon was voiced by um yes yes yes can't think of the name I don't know that I saw that one we all we all saw it we all need to do something yeah we

yeah we need to do something when the member fell when the hurricane hit they were all stuck in the bathroom. Yeah, this reminded me a lot of that. And I do like, I do appreciate the fact that it was in like, you know, one setting like this. But I don't know, man. I think that I fell victim to hearing too many good things about it.

Like everybody, everybody who goes on Facebook and talks about this movie says, you know, it really is glorious. It's amazing. It's fucking, it's one of the most original movies I've seen in a long time. And then once I found out, see, I knew going. in that J.K. Simmons was going to be the voice. And I was like, oh, fucking A, yes. That's going to be amazing. And he was amazing,

you know, for his part. But I don't know, man. I expected a little bit more out of this movie than what I got. Like you say, Brian, a couple of the twists of finding out who the I really is and stuff like that and why he's there. And that kind of adds to it, like

when he sees people before he walks in, like the one lady that kind gives him a weird look. Yeah. It's like, you know he's got something on his mind. There's something that's bothering him or haunting him or whatever. And I do like, you know, kind of like the old gods and all that concept. But man, I was expecting a little bit more out of this movie. What did you think, Philip? Yeah, I had no idea what I was watching when I turned it on I hadn't heard anything about it at all. I didn't know what it was. And the first thing that shows up is the brother from True Blood.

And I remember really enjoying him in that show. He was okay in this one. He's pretty serviceable. Somebody else might have been able to do a better job, I'm sure. But... Dane to Hahn, maybe? But he pulled it off. I liked it.

And, yeah, no, I didn't realize it was J.K. Simmons as the, as the monster. But that totally makes sense because I loved the voice the whole time. I liked their back and forth. It was, I don't know if I would even call it slow. It kept me interested because it was such a unique movie. Yeah. Very unique, that's for sure. The only thing I think that maybe they could have done without is, like, when he looks outside and there's that, like, pink shit that's surrounding the...

Yeah, what was up with that, man? I don't know. It was some really bad CG. Yeah, they sort of... I wonder if it was... It kind of made me wonder what kind of budget they had to work with this one. Not much. Yeah, well, given that and then the single location...

Yeah. And even with when he would kind of have flashbacks or whatever, memories, he was going to memories in his head about, about his girlfriend. They were all in one place too. Yeah. So I can't knock them for the bad CG because maybe they made this on a,

they had a specific budget they had to work with and they just kind of. Well, and it's really just that one little scene, but it was like when it happened, it's so obvious. Yeah. that it's just really bad CG. And I was like, you could have just left that out.

I was just about to say, I kind of can knock them on that because they should have just left that out. It was fine with just the dialogue, you know? It was perfect. And then when they did do the practical effects, though, they were fantastic. It was like straight out of the thing, you know? Well, it's most horror movies when they do when they do practice. it looks amazing and then they had that one scene where they did CGI and it looks fucking awful yeah um but I liked I liked where the story went I

liked the whole God concept and yes the twist at the end was really cool maybe a rest stop bathroom is not the most sanitary place to perform surgery but once you found out he was a serial killer who cares yeah i guess that was kind of part of it though right yeah and i like that last line the uh when he says that we're uh the creatures of destruction or something along those lines and we're not meant for this world and uh i i'm it it impressed me i liked it all right any more uh spoiler talk that you guys can think of no i just wanted to give a shout out to a podcast shout out to Dr. Professor Rebecca McKendry.

She does a podcast on the Fangoria Network called Colors of the Dark. And Lance, she used to do that podcast, Shockwaves. Ah, okay. I think they were. So she does a lot of shit. Yeah, they had a booth, the Frightmare we were all together at. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Shout out to them. Well, let's go scores, Brian. I didn't like this one as much as what Josiah saw, but I liked it almost as much if that makes any sense. Yeah. It makes perfect sense, yeah. They're just so different. I gave what Josiah saw, seven and a half.

I give this a 7.25. Wow. Okay. Uh, Lance. I gave a seven to the last one. I'll give, I'll give a seven to this one. Okay.

I like to me equally. Uh, they, they, they've got their, you know, good points and they've definitely got their, uh,

uh, I kind of wish that CGL wasn't in there, type thing, but, uh, yeah, that was my only gripe. If it,

if it wasn't for that, you know what, if it had just kept it with the two of them talking and just, just the artwork on the on the glory hole in the wall and stuff like that this probably could have been a seven and a half but yeah maybe they went to that bullshit maybe not show the purple cg or the outside maybe just allude to there's something on the outside and he can't make now i'm thinking about it with the scene where he runs to the door and he's trying to open in you see that purple light yeah right maybe just allude to there's something out there that's stopping him from opening him from opening up there that's stopping him from opening up in the door. Yeah, I agree, man. Sometimes you can overdo stuff. You can try to add too much to it. And that's what I think happened here. But I still get up it a solid seven. I still say watch it. You know, if you've got shutter anyway, check it out. Yeah, I'm going to go seven and a half on this one also. I was a pleasant surprise. They're two totally different movies, but both very unique in their own way. Right. And I like that. You know, something different. It doesn't really play by the rules. I would probably go out on a limb and say, as far as movies that came out on Shutter, these are probably some of the couple of the best that came out on Shutter this year.

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Both of them kind of surprised me. That's always a good thing. I like them a lot more than I thought I was going to. This movie had J.K. Simmons as a fucking God, Kthulhu creature. Right. That guy's awesome and everything he does.

He does a lot of voice work, right, in animated series and stuff like that. He has a great voice. I just rewatch. He does. I just rewatch what movie where he was, what's the movie, Lance, where he was, when Miles Teller playing the drums and he was like smacking a shit in? I actually own that movie. I purchased it.

Gosh, I mean, he plays such a... I bought it on Apple, on iTunes, but I cannot remember what it's called. He plays such a fucking abusive. Asshole. Yeah, but at the same time, you're like entertained by it. Oh, yeah. What was that movie called? All right, let's look it up.

We're not going to stop this show without looking up the name of this movie. God damn it. Something about tempo or something. Whiplash. That's whiplash. Whiplash, there you go. Okay. All right.

So speaking of. flash. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Go to our website, www.thehorrorterns.com. And next week, Brian, what are we doing? Well, I don't know. You have no idea? Let me look at my notes. We are doing... I'm trying to think here, man. Trom. Okay, I got it. Trauma. first episode in our trauma

retrospective. And I did not go with the normally thought of trauma movies. I went with Class of Newcomb High and chopper chicks in Zombie Town. So are we going to have a guest?

We got to have a guest next week, right? We don't have a guest scheduled, but if it's who I think you're talking about, then you know they're more than welcome to come on. And no, we did not steal their idea. It was just coincidence. Let's throw out the invite then.

So, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.