The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #331: The Stepford Wives (2004) & Don’t Worry Darling (2022)

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

This week, we are joined by special guest Sarah Snow to discuss the remake of The Stepford Wives as well as the brand new Olivia Wilde film Don't Worry Darling. Cool of the Week includes Ghost of Tsushima, Bad Sisters, Midnight Mass, Supernatural (of course!) and Dahmer. Trailers this week are Return to Sender, Hellraiser, and Knock at the Cabin. The podcast spotlight shines on Beyond the Void. And we get feedback from Al Ramseur, Jonathan Dyer, Lyle Huckins, Steven Lowblad, Patrick Lear, Bede Jermyn, Marcey Papandrea, Xim Vader, Marcus Wilturner, Jerry Cortes, CJ Ducote, and Ari Wellman. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

This is Fiona Duraff, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware This podcast contains major plot spoilers

And the foulest of language Join us In celebrating the old and the new The best and the worst in horror Welcome back everyone to the greatest show on earth As Brian likes to call it Do I? This is the horror returns.

You do now. Shut up. I'm Lance. And I'm joined by our co-host, Brian and Philip. Nez might be on later, but tonight we got a really special guest. One of those movies that I think anytime we do movies like this one are, God forbid, Black Christmas. We need to have a female. He doesn't belong in the same category as that.

Okay. Look, we need to have a female point of view. So we've got Sarah Snow. So Sarah, tell our listeners about you. Like, what got you into movies? What's your favorite genre? What are a couple of your favorites? I know you're really into fantasy, right?

Yeah, I've definitely been a huge fantasy fan ever since I was really young. My dad gave me The Hobbit as the first book for me to read on my own when I was super small. Really hard for me to get through it, like what, six years old? Okay. And I was just hooked from that point on. I'm definitely into like Marvel Cinematic Universe, DCEU, stuff like that too. But if I had to pick a favorite movie, it would actually be what dreams may come with Robin Williams. I'm obsessed with that movie.

I watch it at least once a year, every year. It's just, it's so good. Very nice. I did have a Christian pastor in training preach to me one time about how that's not what heaven's really like. How the fuck do you know? It was my first thought. He doesn't. My dad was actually part of the Mormon leadership when I was a child.

And he loved that movie because my older sister died when she was young and that movie kind of helped him cope with it. It gave him a sort of new way of thinking about things. And it was very powerful. Nice. Nice. All right. Thanks for joining us. Before we get into the movies and everything tonight, we always start our show with a little something called Cool of the Week.

So it can be anything. It can be a book, a movie, a TV show, concert you attended. Sarah, what's your cool of the week? I started Ghost of Tsushima on PlayStation this week. Yes. It's been out for a couple of years. I'd kind of heard things about it, just wanted to get a, I honestly wanted to get into a game where I could ride a horse again because I'm a horse girl.

And ended up falling love with the epic samurai tale genre of it. And like there's even a mode where you can turn everything in black and white. And with like Japanese vocals with like English subtitles, like you're actually watching an epic like old samurai movie. It's just, it's so cool. I'm obsessed with it. Nice. The shield blade.

Oh, cool. Philip, you got anything? Yeah, I finally, I finally finished up Supernatural. Natural. And I had to throw it out there, right? Because I've been working on it for, you know, a couple of months now. And I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little choked up at the end, man. It was kind of sad for leaving.

Ah, there you go. It's a whole fucking show, man. I mean, you know, not every episode is right on it. but there's so many different genres that they jump into. Like there's a Scooby-Dub cartoon that they end up in, and that's pretty awesome. I really liked about their, like the formula, I guess, for that show. In the first five minutes, you can tell if it's going to be plot-driven or a filler episode. If a stranger, like a character you've never met before dies in the first five minutes, it's a filler episode.

If it's like focusing on Sam and Dean, then you know it's plot-driven. So it's like you can decide if you want to skip it or not. Yeah. And I may have fallen asleep in a few of them here and there. I was trying to burn through it. But they were filler episodes. They always get a little more intense towards the end. Yeah.

So that was a good time, man. I'm really glad I watched that show, which also means that I was done with that one. And I got to move on to Cobra Kai. and so I've only watched like an episode or two, but of the new season. And it's looking really good, man. I mean, you know, it's cheesy as ever, but it's great. And freaking House of the Dragon, man. I'm obsessed with that show now.

Yes. All right. Yeah, Sarah, you talked me into watching that. I only saw the first episode, though, so far. So they slightly changed a couple of things from the book. I think, but nothing major yet. It's all kind of going according to plan. Just different ages and stuff.

You want to jump in there, Brian? Yeah, I only got a couple things. Finally started a Midnight Mass. Mike Plagen's Netflix show, loving it so far. I think it's better towards the end. Yeah, I think the main thing I like is the main core of actors that he works with. I just like everybody that he works with, especially his wife. I didn't know she was in it until she, you know, popped up in the show.

I didn't, I don't remember, you know, seeing her in the trailer or anything. Right. Kind of burning through that. And I also started, I guess this is the full name of it, Domer Monster, the Jeffrey Domer Story. Oh, yeah. You have another Domer show. Liking it. I'm really enjoying it.

It's, um, His name slips in my mind. The guy that worked on American Horror Story, the creator. Evan Phillips? Evan Peters. Evan Peters is talking about the guy that created, that is co-creator of American Horror Story. Oh, Ryan. Ryan.

Yeah, there guy. Help me out, Sarah. I don't remember. Yeah, he's a... Action names, I have no idea. He's a co-creator with Blumhouse on this one. one. Makes sense.

I'm liking it. Evan Peters is, he's killing it. Well, yeah, he's killing it in the show, but I mean,

he's not going to perform this out. And, yeah, there's a, if this is all accurate, there's plenty of times when this could have all been prevented.

There could have been, could have been prevented before he actually killed somebody, and then after he killed his... Mostly, mostly accurate. They played up a little bit, but...

Yeah, and then after he killed the first person, and law enforcement wasn't at its best. They could have stopped it at one murder. But, yeah, I like they don't romanticize the character, try to make it glamorous or anything. He's a shitty person, and he does a lot of shitty things. From what I understand, it's pretty accurate so far.

Is this the one that I've been hearing everyone say that they couldn't get through the first episode without throwing up? Yeah, I didn't get that. Yeah. I didn't, I mean, they get right into him killing people right away, and it wasn't anything. If you've seen like true, true murder crime stories and series and movies and stuff like that, horror movies, you're not going to be turned away by this. I didn't see what was so sickening.

Well, we're used to. it. We're, we're, enough to size to that. Yeah, so. Every time they have a trailer or something where they're like, yeah, everybody had to leave the theater because they were throwing up or whatever. And you're like, okay. Of course. Come on.

Oh, I got to watch that. That sounds great. People were fainting. People were fainting. EMS had to carry them out, you know. Yeah, I'm just working through those. Like I said last week, I'm saving all new horror movies for 31 days. I think I got my list, Lance, ready to go. All right. I'm still going to try to do one,

one 20, 22, and one old one each day. We'll see how that goes. That's a lot of movies. That's a lot of movies. I may have some Saturdays where I watch six or eight movies. It's definitely gets them. Oh, man. All right.

Is that it then? Yeah. So what do you think, Dommer or? Yeah, midnight pass. I haven't seen a little bit. Yeah, I'm almost done with Dommer. So I'll do that one. Got you down.

I watched you down for dumb. I liked it. It was good. All right, cool. All right, I'm going to pull a philip here where he did Supernatural seven weeks in a row. I'm going to pull one out that I've said before. But the reason that I'm going to pull this one out is because the show is just as good. But it has actually taken very much a horror turn that I wasn't expecting.

And that's the Irish show on Apple TV. plus bad sisters. So this, like I said, it's pretty phenomenal because it's the one husband that's such a fucking asshole and ruins everybody's life. It's almost like a saving Silverman

but with sisters instead of best friends. If you guys remember that movie. And it's like the one, the wife, this guy's wife is so co-dependent on him. But the sisters all see what's really going on and how he treats her.

mentally, psychologically, even physically at times. And he fucks with all of them too. And he fucks with other people just to be an asshole. So this episode has taken a real horror turn. Spoiler alert, somebody finds a body in a freezer. That's all I'm going to say. So bad sisters. If you've got Apple TV Plus, check it out.

It was dumber. Might have been. All right, Brian. we got any headlines? Yeah, I actually took notes this week, so I won't be fumbling around this time. Start with TV. That Tim Burton's Wednesday series,

his Adam's family series, will not be premiering in October. Actually, premiere in November 23rd. Okay. So kind of bumped a lot of people out. They were hoping to get the Halloween release, but I guess that wasn't in the plans for this one. November 23rd, everybody's focused on Christmas by then.

Yeah. Let's see, HBO is working on bringing David Kronenberg's scanners to the small screen. Oh, God. Okay. Sure. That's a little bit of information on this. William Bridges, who co-wrote that... William Bridges, who co-wrote the Emmy Award-winning USS Callister episode from Black Mirror is the show's writer and show.

runner. Oh, that means maybe Fat Damon will show up in it. Jan Damage, who directed Lovecraft Country, is on board to direct, and of course, David Kronenberg's on as executive producer. I'm sure we'll check it out, right? Sarah, what do you think? I have heard of scanners before. I don't actually know what it is. Ah. You need to

put it on your to do list to watch. It'll do. Psychic gets 20 heads. Yeah. And I'm not a, I hate half of Cronenberg's films and I love half of his films. And this is definitely on the love side.

Is it anything like the movie rubber? I don't know. Not as funny. I are going around blowing up people's heads. Not as amazing as rubber. Let's see. Lance, you remember the movie Freaks with, what's the one actor?

One of us. One of us. No, the one that came out. Oh, the new movie. Yeah. What was the actor's name? Oh, the guy from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Alex Winter. Is that right?

God damn it. I have no fucking idea then. I feel like I've seen this. Now you got to make me look at it out. Yeah, somebody helped us out here. Oh, by the way. The Freaks that came out a couple years ago, had the little girl with superpowers.

That was the one. Oh, yes. Her dad was like an ice cream man or something. Ryan Murphy and Brad Fowellichuk are the two that do American Horror Story. There you go. Okay, but that's not a lot of course. That's not freak.

Well, the filmmaker. That's not the one where Zach Efron plays with dad and she's a fire starter, is it? No, that was a fire starter. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Close. I just said like a Netflix movie or some shit, but it was pretty good.

It was on Netflix. Like, there were people like superpowers were like hiding from the authorities. Yeah, it had like an X-Men vibe to it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of those, though. Yeah. Like I just saw one with Jamie Fox, I think, where like people can take a pill to have power.

for like five minutes. That's right. Yeah. Well, the director of Freaks, Zach Lopofsky and Adam B. Stein, direct and duo, we're going to direct Final Destination 6 for HBO Max. All right.

Those are all fun. Final Destination 6 is supposed to be an all-new story. The other one was kind of semi-connected to each other. They kind of wrapped it up with the final the final movie so

wasn't that the final destination yeah exactly yeah yeah I really there was like the fast and the furious

and they were just like Fast and Furious 7 yeah I really don't think those stories need to tie together and final destination they can make them totally separate movies

and it's great. Yeah. Let's see. Lionsgate has begun production on the Strangers remake trilogy and Rennie Harlan who, if you don't know, Renny Harlan, he's directed

Nightmare and Elm Street 4, Cliffhanger, just a wide variety of movies. He's on board to direct, I assuming the first one at least, I don't know if he's doing the whole trilogy,

but I enjoyed the first two, strangest movies, so why not? I don't know why they're rebooting it. They can just continue the story. Yeah. But what do I know?

Back to David Cronenberg, Leah Sadoe, who starred in, what was it, Crimes of the Future? Yes. Yes. Yep. She will star in his next movie called The Shrouds. Okay. And shrouds

Like pick people to work with and really stick with them Mm-hmm Synopsis on this one is Karsh is an innovative businessman And a grieving widower who builds a device To connect with the dead inside a burial shroud So Oh

Okay interesting Yeah And like Lance said 50-50 on if he'll like it or not because it's David Cronoberg. He seems to be on a roll, so we'll find out. At the very least, it'll be interesting. Right. Let's see.

Our girl, Samara Weaving, will star as a 90s pop star in the upcoming comedy thriller Borderline. It's been a minute since she's been anything. Yeah, I kind of felt like she was in too much. Yeah. All the once. It just kind of seemed like she was coming up. was something new, like, every month.

Yeah, but she was killing it in all of them. True, but not Bill and Ted. Ah, it was okay. Yeah. It was the movie we needed at that time. It made me feel good in the middle of COVID. Come on. Yeah, but she didn't really embrace the character.

Like, the other actress that played Keanu Reeves' daughter, I felt like she could have been Keanu Reeves' daughter. Yeah. She had, like, the speech and the mannerisms. Although I will say that that actor does like to be referred to as they. Oh, excuse me. Sorry. It's all good.

Okay, Lena Heady and Nick Frost will star in the upcoming serial killer comedy. I heard about this. Swalta. I don't know if I'm saying it right. That's an interesting duo, I feel like. Yeah, they were previously in that wrestling move. be fighting with my family. Yes, with Florence Pugh.

This one, this one's about a family vacation. It takes a family to a remote getaway that takes an unexpected turn when they discover the island that they're on is inhabited by a serial killer. And they get no help from the town people. You stay out of his way and let him meet people.

what you do. Oh, boy. Here's another name I'm going to butcher Babak. Arborfield is going to direct the official sequel to Cloverfield. Not a spinoff, not a previously made movie that they turned into a Cloverfield sequel, but a true Cloverfield sequel, so. Okay. What's the Cloverfield paradox supposed to be a sequel?

Yeah, but from what I understand. it was already made and then they tried to add scenes to connect it to the movie. Yeah. Because I was trying to figure out how all of the weird stuff that was happening on the ship

were they saying that that was the reason why the monster appeared or why, because I forgot, was it an alien that landed or did it like emerge from the ground or something? Or I feel like they said both in different movies or I might be thinking of a separate movie.

I don't know, maybe. Maybe Naz could tell us. Where did Cleverfield come from, Naz? Where did what? Cloverfield. Was he an alien or did he come out of the ground or something? Like Ctheloo. Came from another universe.

There you is. Okay, there you go. There's the answer. If you saw... What was that last one? Paradox? Yes. That's what we're talking about.

Yeah. They sort of James Cloverfield into that. It would have been a cool movie without the cloverfield aspect, I think. Well, I'll tell you what was no good. The keepers, creepers reborn. Oh, I almost put to the theater. I almost did. Oh, man, that was $30 wasted.

At least to get in your bottom 10 list. There's more than hell of on my bottom 10 list. I'm not going to give that, but I got my money. Okay. another 15 for snacks and a shit movie. I guess the only good thing you could say that came out of that

was the original director has nothing to do with this one. Oh, okay, cool. Well, whoever took over this didn't know what he was doing, and it was just a mess. He came on

right before the movie and was piping it up. Yeah? And oh man, I can't wait to you guys see this. I waited so you guys can see it in the theater. Right, right. So he was selling it to me. And then it started.

And now I was like, oh. Oh, boy. Well, he did say they were filming it during the pandemic. So he said he really couldn't do what he wanted to do because of the COVID restrictions. everything. Yeah. But this story was dumb. The prior director had, it was COVID, so the prior director had to stay

at least six feet away from all children, right? Probably supposed to do that anyway. But hope it's more than six feet. The third one was better than this one. And that third was garbage. Wait. Ouch. Okay, what's your cool of the week, Nez? Domer, I finished that.

Okay, that's two for Domer. I already knew most of the story, but what I love about the post was all the back story from everyone else. From the one deaf guy, from his neighbor, his parents, and just all the stuff that wasn't really in the news. And fuck those cops. and oh man yeah she wasn't she wasn't actually his neighbor they like combined a couple of characters

for her it just made me mad I was just like really but that's the neighborhood it was in I mean I can speak from experience you call the cops and in a bad neighborhood

and they come up so man that was that was right on the money right there but I mean it was a good it was a good series um Quicksilver.

No, he wasn't cool. Was he Quicksilver? Yeah, yeah. And one of the universes he was. Well, he came back. Yeah, the Xxswit. He came back. Actually.

For a second. That was cool. But I thought he did a really good job. And Molly Ringwald is still hot. It took me a minute. I didn't realize that was her. Molly Ringwald was in that? Yeah, it was his stepmom or whatever.

but. Oh, she's like 60 years old now or what? I don't know, man, but she still look good. I had no idea. My mind's kind of blown right now. That was her, the step round. Yeah, that was pretty much took up most of my TV watching was Dahmer. Okay.

I wasn't going to start it, but one of my friends was like, just watch it so you can talk about it on the show. So I said, well, I'll give one episode a watch, and that's all it took. okay but like wrinkles can eat just one yeah I like what was going on I liked the Hawkeye

when he played Dahmer I thought he did a better job but this this series was good I liked it I loved how they did the John

Casey stuff and the Ed Gein stuff and yeah uh huh so but it was good man guys haven't seen I mean nothing to spoil

we already knew the outcome and that's what I love that we got to see it. He looks just like that kid that played in my friend Dahmer. A matter of fact, I thought they just stole scenes from that for one of the episodes, and it's a totally different person. I was like, yeah, definitely the scene where the high school kids was like, do a domer.

Yeah. You know, that's what we call doing a domer when he, you know, do something strange. I was barbarian again. no spoilers no spoilers we didn't get a chance Brian you didn't either right we didn't get a chance to watch it

no spoilers why not so anyway any more news Brian dude I mean you guys need to just drop everything and go see it

because that movie was fucking and what kind of show I'm watching you guys haven't seen it yet I saw it that first night oh man

you got to see it hella good all right i guess we'll finish news off with something that is probably not going to be hella good and the nun two uh storm reed will star in the nun too which uh i like her as an actress who decided to make this movie uh blumhouse or universal or whoever this does concern me michael chavez will direct this one i did not like the curse of lylerona or the conjuring uh the devil made me do it. I didn't like either one of those movies. Yeah. The conjuring one was better.

That cursed lie your honor was not great. The movie was so not great that they tried to say it's not part of the Conjuring universe, even though it has characters from the Conjuring universe. That's exactly how they advertised it when it came out. But, you know, they tell you

enough stuff and eventually you believe it. And that's the news. All right. Well, Sarah, I know you guys don't have any inside Cinco Park, but y'all got any trailer parks anywhere nearby, Katie? Oh, yeah. I used to live up near Morton, like Morton Road in 99. Okay. And I don't know if it's still there now. This was about five years ago. But right next to my parents' brand new subdivision was a trailer park that had a goat farm. nice to hear them

screaming the bleeding of the lambs Texas is weird and there was a horse vet on the other side of us too so Brian is going to bring us the big the small

and the very very weird what's our first new trailer to talk about tonight Brian first one we're going to talk about is I don't usually include short films but this one is co-created

and co-produced by Jamie Lee Curtis. And that's called Return to Sender. A quick synopsis. A woman involved in a delivery scam that grows increasingly strange. This star is Alison Tallman, and directed by Russell Goldman, and I believe he also wrote it too.

So, what did everybody think of return to sender? It's one of my best. biggest nightmares. Somebody sending weird shit to you. Not just that, but the whole, like, the part in the trailer where she's talking

to her friend on the phone and then she gets an Amazon notification that she's left a review on window blinds of what she just said on the phone. Uh-uh. Nope. I got chills actually watching that. The horrors that are like, this kind of

crap happens to real people. Those get me more than like demons. Right. Right. shit. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean, you know, they didn't give you a whole lot to go on.

It looked like, you know, she gets sent, sent weird shit. Right. Hilarity ensues, I assume. I'll watch it. I like the actress. I've seen her in some good roles before. So I'll watch it. Yeah, I like the actress, too.

The sheriff in Fargo, right? The first season or two, I think. I think so. Yeah, I think it was season two. Okay, yeah. No release date on this one, but definitely keep everybody updated on one of our social media pages. All right. Next up is a movie we will be reviewing here in a couple weeks,

and that is The Hellraiser. Not remake. Five Marker said this is a reconfirming. Not a remake. What does that mean? I know there was certain stuff he didn't like from the original Hellraiser, how Pennhead's name was Pinhead. And I guess in the book his name was like the Hell Priest or the Hell Priestess or something.

Right. Just like little stuff that I guess is going to be a little bit more accurate to what he had in his book. Okay. Well, I mean, it looks like Hellraiser to me. It's got the chains. It's got the, it's got the fucking lament configuration. It's all right there.

Yeah, and Jamie Clayton is playing pinhead. I really liked what they did, especially when she spoke. It was almost kind of a drogenous kind of feel to it. You couldn't really tell if it was male or female. Very, very Borg, very Borg queenish for all you Star Trek fans out there. Yeah. This is directed by David Bruckner, who I like everything I've seen from the ritual, the nighthouse.

Yep. It's going to be good. You can tell us from the trailer. And I don't think they gave too much the way either. No, and it looks like this story is going to be pretty simple. You know, I think it's going to, like I said, draw more stuff from the books than we got. from the previous film, and I've seen most

of the later Hellraiser movies. It can go nowhere but up. Yeah. Although the latest book was pretty damn good that had Panhead in it, but maybe they'll take something from that, too. Who knows?

And I believe this is done by the same studio that just recently did Prey, the Predator Prequel. I had mixed feelings about that one going into it, but I loved it by the end of it. Nice, nice. I don't really have a lot of expectations for this movie, but we'll see. It'll probably be better than I expect.

And one thing that it looks like they're getting away from that they just kept doing over and over in the sequels was they always had a detective like trying to solve some murder that was connected to the box. It was like every sequel, there was a new detective. Yikes. Yeah. Well, people just die. You're going to have to have somebody look into it. Right.

But I think this is going to be good. I'm expecting it to be great. I really do. Yeah, me too. My expectations. Like I said, we will be reviewing it. And it comes out on who. Hulu, October 7th.

All right. Hopefully it'll be better than books of blood. That was fucking horrible. It was like a family-friendly... I know, like a PG-rated Clydeburger. Yeah, it made no sense. Now, Hellraiser's got to be scary and weird. Yeah, going back to the new Hellraiser,

they said it will be rated R for blood, violence, and nudity. So. All right. I would expect nothing less. All right. Our final trailer is the new M. Night Shyamalan thriller, Knock at the Cabin. This stars Dave Batista,

Rupert Grint, the kid from Harry Potter. What a cast. I did not expect to see him in anything end. What a trip, right? What a bizarre foursome. Yeah.

He's in that show that he does, right? Yeah, yeah, servant. He's a big part of service. So they're probably, he's probably going to become one of the actors we see in his films from now on. Okay. This also stars Jonathan Groff, Ben Aldridge, William Ragsdale, and The Little Girl, this is her, I think the first thing she's ever acted in, Christine Q. Okay.

Quick synopsis. While vacationing, a girl and her parents are taken hostage by armed strangers who demand that the family make a choice to invert the apocalypse. And then the twist happens. M. Knight, what can you say? I'll always watch a Shammala Ding Dong movie. Yeah. I'm in. I'm very curious on if there really is something to do.

to divert the apocalypse or are these people just crazy? That was my like immediate reaction to because at first you kind of just get the impression that oh, these are just crazy people because they're busting in with like giant hammers and shit. But the seriousness on Batista's face where he's like, I really don't want to do this, but I have to. Just like the emphasis he put on certain words, it's like,

maybe there is an apocalypse. Or maybe he just really. believes it. And the whole fact that they have to make a choice on if they want to save themselves or save the world. It's like who's giving them this, like who gave

him this job? And then how did he choose this family? Or he said they were chosen. Like it posed so many questions in such a short amount of time. No. And it's a classic

M-night with the camera work, very awkward kind of camera angles, up-close shots, you know, especially when he's talking to the girl, you know, just up close of her face. And I do the news on here and post-news all the time. I did not, I must have skipped that day Batista was in this because as he was talking, I was like, that guy kind of sounds like Batista. And then it showed him, I was like, oh, shit, it is. Yep. Very smaller Batista, not as big, but.

Yeah, that's what happens when you lay off the juice. Well, I guess he's... He doesn't have to be dragged anymore. Yeah, the next... Next Guardians is he said that's it. Ah, okay. He's getting... I know a lot of, like, Hugh Jackman when he was Wolverine,

they say it's kind of hard to maintain that look. Yeah. Okay. It is. Especially if you like beer, right, Philip? Yeah. All right. real quick.

This is Lance, if you want to check out the novel. The novel is The Cabin at the End of the World by Paul Tremblay. Hmm. Okay. And that came out in 2018. So that's what it's based on. Okay. We won't see this movie until February 3rd,

2023. Gives me plenty of time to read the book. Guess that's not too bad. I'll go for you. I mean, you know, M-night is kind of hit or miss, but... Yeah, I think we all do different levels, enjoy old. It was in my top ten. Nobody else's, but it was in mine.

I cut a lot of shit for that. Not as much as Pet Semetery Remate, but, you know... Yeah, but you really angered Pedro when he came on, I think. What was it, the next week? Pedro got pissed. All right, that is the last trailer. All right, let's move on to some listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on Beyond the Void.

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The guy that's putting it out, it wasn't a shark movie he did, but it was like an underwater thriller where somebody got trapped and their air tank was running out. It was a pretty decent movie, so I'm going to check it out. I'm going to see what he can do. And the producers were like, you know what this could use? Some fucking sharks. You know, the kind of shark movie I want to see is one where it's like one of those

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Oh, my God. I've heard that's something they do. The killer whales, they'll eat shark livers. That's like a dessert for them. This has a potential. I don't know the same as like the, you know, puffer fish with the dolphins. Right.

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Yeah. Like in the 90s? I remember when he got caught. I remember it being in the news. I felt like it was longer ago than that. Yeah. Seems like it. Yeah.

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We would really appreciate that. And now, move on to featured attractions. This week, we check out the brand new Olivia Wild Film. Don't worry, darling, and all its drama, as well as the remake of the Stefford Wives. All right. We'll start with the Stefford Wives, because it's old and we don't have to keep from spoilers. Right. 2004 it's the remake the secret to a

Stefford wife lies behind the doors of the men's association that's not actual synopsis that you get the idea not much for synchrist director is Frank Oz also known for the Muppet Show as well as being the voice of Yoda writer is Paul Rudnick also known for or Adams Family Values and Sister Act.

Not a mad fact record. Huh? That I kind of love both of those. I know, me too. Heavily re-edited and rewritten following the test screenings, with new scenes shot and others deleted, the attempts to cater to audience taste backfired

as the new edits and scenes created continuity errors and major story problems. Well, maybe we'll get into it. those. Siblings John Cusack and Joan Cusack were originally cast as Walter Cresby and Bobby Markowitz, respectively, but had to drop out of the film for family reasons. All right. No John Cusack.

Or maybe they just, maybe they just hated the script. They were like, what the fuck are we doing? Sarah, you want to start us off? What did you think about the Stepbird Wives remake? So I remember when I first saw it in theaters years ago, and the sheer number of people that actively laughed out loud, that just hearty chuckle at the very beginning when they're doing the I Can Do Better TV show premiere.

Just like, and it wasn't so much about like how funny the concept was, but just like where the woman is like, yeah, no, I see. slept with like three people a day and I can definitely do better after her husband has like pronounced his undying love. Oh, me and this stripper just sat in the hot tub and talked. Like it was fine. Yeah, no, I begged everyone here. Like everyone just died. Just that like that change of her like her posture even because she was all like meek and timid little Iowa or Montana girl or wherever they were from. And she's like, no, I'm a freak. Like it was just, it was. And that really set the tone for the rest of the movie for me.

And like, I said it earlier, just Faith Hill's head literally sparking and like spinning backwards. Like the first time when they were at the workout class, like, those flower dresses with like, what was it, a mop or a broomstick? And like, their whole jazzer size routine is just learning how to clean and a dress and heels. like I must have been like 14 or 16 I think when that movie came out and I remember like having this fear of is that what I'm supposed to do when I get married like this what they want like it was terrifying to me like I definitely identified with Nicole Kidman and what's that it's not Bet Midler is it the the writer her friend oh Bobby I thought it was bit yeah yeah is it yeah okay Those two women, it's like if you combined those two characters into one person, that's my spirit animal. I fully vived with them 100%. And that's, I think what I loved the most about the movie was the relatability of those characters. Because it was very funny and goofy and lots of, you know, like little cheap jokes over a really dark issue of like slavery through don't.

mysticity, but it's like, oh, look at this really dark thing. We're going to make it funny. Ha, ha. Yeah. I liked about it, I think. All right. Brian, what did you think about it? You know what? I can't lie.

I was entertained by this. I do, you know, I am more partial to the original one, but I think that the added comedic tone to this was kind of set it apart, because when you do a remake you I always say I'm fine with you remaking something if you just

kind of make it your own you take the general idea and just kind of do your own thing with it and I felt like Frank Oz kind of did that here and I know I've seen this before but I did not remember anything and then when the Robo Rover 2000 showed up I was like okay this is what kind of movie I'm watching yeah and then Christopher Walkin and Matthew Broderick that midler I just totally forgot all these people were in

and my favorite character was I think his name was Jerry the guy that he was the gay couples the one that goes oh my God they actually led a gay couple

into the community what the hell well it's because his husband was a Republican senator and so Okay, part yeah. All right. Fair enough.

But overall, I thought it was fun. I know a lot of people don't like this movie, and I think it falls into the whole, like, people don't like stuff being remade, and they just hold on to the original one so fondly. Sure. But at the end of the day, I just want to be entertained, and I can't lie, I was entertained.

The movie was goofy. What is her name? Nicole Kidman? Glenn Close. Glenn Close was crazy. Ah, okay. Crazy. Completely crazy.

Absolutely unhinged. I loved it. Exactly. Unhinged. In a comedic way, but at the same time, in a frightening way, especially with the reveal at the end and how far she was willing to take things. Wow. I enjoyed this movie. I can't lie. Nice. Nice.

All right, Lance, what did you think? You guys are going to kill me. I've been at the beach for a week, and then I've been at Dallas for three days and went to the porcupine tree concert, so I did not get a chance to see it. I love the original, though. I love the original. This is definitely not the original. If you want to hear our review of the original, go back and listen to our Get Out episode. Episode 39, long time ago. We did do that one.

I forgot about that. Yeah, no, I enjoyed it. I like that they threw in the comedy. And I also, I really liked that, you know, they went kind of hard on a feminist thing and they were losing me. and because I was thinking the whole time well what if women did this it'd be the same thing and then

and then I'll be glad I was good to say you may get a chance to see that in another movie later but yeah and then Glenn close at the end it turns out

she's the one that started this whole shit so no she worked for NASA and Mattel oh god yeah I got it I got to see this movie. You know what threw me off and why I didn't go way out of my way to see it, Brian?

Bewitched spooked me. You know, the poster is very bewitched. I know. It almost looks like they took her from that movie and put her on the cover of this. I know. I know. Well, and you can't take this movie seriously. It's stupid and goofy.

But, I mean, I think. they sort of had to do that. They're not going to remake the original. And you know, like a scene for scene remake, it would have been horrible. And they added in the comedy aspect and threw in a bunch of A-list stars and, you know,

Bet Midler was way over the top, which was great. And I, Christopher Walkin, they don't love that guy. So, no, I did kind of, I did kind of enjoy this one. I mean, I'm not watching it again. time soon, but I didn't hate watching it even though I had to. You know what I mean?

Like Sarah said, Faith Hills' head explodes. I didn't even realize that was hard. They used her body in the ATM. Like he puts his credit card in her mouth and then she spits out money. Okay, how does that work? That's what I want to know. Like, you have to load an ATM at some point because it runs out of bills. So where do they? I'm assuming they put some kind of chip in their head, but all of a sudden their ATM machines? That's what bothered me the most. Like, maybe that was the continuity errors they were talking about

because... Ah, yeah. Okay. ...at the beginning of the movie leads you to believe she's an actual robot and has replaced the original wife and they're actually down in cold storage or whatever

while the robots run loose. But then at the very end, it's like, no, we just put a microchip in your head that modifies your behavior so you actually like a perfect wife. It's like, good point. Which one is then?

I'm confused. But so much other ridiculous distracting stuff is happening at the end that you kind of forget about that. But then if you ever watch it a second time, you're like, no, no, no,

I remember this part. And it, it kind of loses that continuity. Yeah. It, well, it's, it's,

it's probably not the kind of movie. You go looking for continuity errors, because I'm sure there's a ton of, it was kind of hard not to with the ATM thing at least at least the bills came out moist so and they were and they were singles not boops wet

all right scores on the stepford wives remake Sarah 1 to 10 10 being the best I will probably give it a six. Not bad. I will always rewatch it if it comes up like on my Hulu or something and I don't have anything else that I want to watch. Yeah.

Every time I get to the end of it, I'm just like, why did I do this again? It's a fun, put it on the background movie. Fair enough. Brian, what do you think? I think six is totally fair And I'm gonna go with that I mean Like you said

It's a A list cast And I think for the tone of the movie That they went with I think this This cast works with it Because I think if you had this cast And you try to go serious Yeah

I don't think Like Matthew Broderick I mean I like him I mean he's definitely His character is Very far from Ferris Bueller completely.

But I don't see him doing a serious role if they went serious with this. So I think with the cast they had and the tone they went with, I think it worked. I do recommend it to people. I know, like I said, people kind of down remakes, but

you don't know if you're going to like it if you don't watch it. So. Yeah. And Christopher Walking. I mean, I know he can do some serious roles, but he's always fantastic in comedies. Oh, yeah. More cowbell. The Robo Rover 2000.

It's the Robo Rover. That's so sad, it just falls down the stairs. Right. That was a really badly designed dog, though, man. It's kind of one of those movies where, like, if you're wanting to either watch something that's a little more feminist or maybe show it to someone without it being like super

man-hating agro, ram it down your throat, it's like, hey, let's talk about, you know, these gender roles and, you know, societal domestic expectations, but let's laugh about it while Faith Hell's head spins around and she spits out money. Yeah, it's like not black Christmas.

It's a combination of the two. But, uh, yeah, I think I'll go with you guys. I think six is a pretty fair score for this one. All right. Six, six, six. Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

It should have a big label under the movie poster that says it could have been worse. All right. The name of her TV show, I can do better. There you go. There you go. That's it, Sarah. Hit the nail right on the head, man. Yeah, at the end of this movie, you just go, you know what?

I could have done better. Definitely could have done worse, though, right? Yeah. All right. Yeah, I've got me convinced. I'm going to watch it. You never seen it at all? No, but it's worth it.

It sounds like it's worth a watch. It's definitely worth a watch at least once. All right. Let's move on to our brand new one. Don't worry, darling, 2022. A 1950s housewife living with her husband in a utopian experimental community begins to worry that his glamorous company could be hiding disturbing secrets. Director is Olivia Wilde, also known for Booksmart, and because she's Olivia Wilde. Great movie. Great movie.

Yeah? I love Booksmart. Writers are Katie Silberman, Carrie Van Dyke, and. and Shane Bandike. Not Dick? Nope. Dick didn't take part in it? No dicks.

Okay. Olivia Wilde wanted to play the lead role, but decided to cast Florence Pew, good decision, after seeing her in Midsamar. And I just thought she was gas-lit in Midsumar. I know. So I saw this. While introducing the truceing the truer. trailer, an audience at CinemaCon in April 22, April 2022, Olivia Wilde was angered when she was interrupted on stage by a process server handing her custody papers from her ex-fiance Jason Sedakus.

Yikes. This is also the movie where she cheated on him with Harry Styles. Was it Harry Styles? Yep, kind of had that kind of. Oh, boy. It seemed to be plenty going on. Oh, there's a lot of drama behind this one. The back and forth yelling match between Florence Pugh and Olivia Wilde.

Yeah. During the filming of it. Yeah. I heard that was like because of her alleged affair with Harry Styles and she was just comfortable with that dynamic and, you know, her being so shady and just didn't want to be a part of it anymore. And I think I remember watching a TikTok or something that Olivia Wilde had filmed right after all of that where she tried to say like, oh yeah, no, we're good. Like we just had a difference of opinion.

And like she's wholeheartedly coming back to the show. And it just seemed like a little forced. Like she was trying to kind of make everything okay. And it probably wasn't. But Florence didn't really say anything in response. So everyone just kind of forgot about it. Ouch. Yeah.

Well, and we talked last week about Harry Stiles spitting on Chris Pine. Allegedly. Allegedly. What I saw, he spit on him. It did something. What do you think, Sarah? Did you see the video? I haven't seen him spitting on anyone, but I could tell you that I don't recall if I've ever seen Harry Styles and anything else before.

Like, I know who he is. I just don't know if I've seen. him in other movies. I hated every single second of his face in this movie. Tim, from the moment you walked on screen, it's just, ugh,

it's that like, that kind of attractive that you just lose up to something. I hear you. And obviously he was. Yeah. So. He was good. He was good in,

what was it, Lance? He was pretty good. in Dunkirk. Because he didn't have any lines. He just had to be there. Go run that way. That's hard.

Originally, that part was supposed to be played by Shia LaBuff. Yeah. And I guess Shia LaBuff and... No, in this movie. And don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah, he... Well, that would have been weird.

Wow. Because of his, uh, accusations he had to drop out, I think. Is that what, so I, from, from what I hear, because I was kind of looking it up, and I'll get into it, but, uh, he, uh, he, uh, he had some issues with Lawrence Pugh and Olivia Wilde. And Olivia Wilde said that. she fired him and then he came out and like released a voicemail or something of her like begging him to stay on the show or on the movie yeah and so it it turned into a thing and that

may have uh may have went towards olivia's issue with uh florence pew i don't there's there's so much stuff coming on behind this so much stuff coming out i'm a predict in a couple years there's going to be like a FX series based on the making of this movie I imagine Chris Pine and every scene going are you serious that's Captain Kirk

god damn it don't don't disrespect Captain Kurt hey he did something weird to his face though didn't he he just looks older he looks older he looks weird man I think he did something

to his face I maybe Maybe Botox or something. He definitely looks like one of the... He was starting to gray on the side. Yeah, it was starting to gray a little bit. You're right. So he dyed it blonde and grew it way out. Have you seen him lately?

He looks really goofy. But he does look like one of the puppets from Team America World Police. Somebody put that up on YouTube or something. Isn't it uncanny? Anyway, back to... Trivia. Sadecas later responded that he had no idea what was going to happen. Oh, sure. Never have condemned being served in such an inappropriate manner.

Yeah. I hope that he did it on purpose. I mean, I kind of believe him. I don't think that's up to them when they serve the paper. No, because it's kind of up to the person on how they're going to serve the paper. Right. Maybe. If anybody was going to set that shit up.

I mean, we've all seen like how it's done through. Pineapple Express and how Seth Rogan process serves. So it's kind of up to the person. All right. They best think they can ambush them. Yeah. There you go. Oh, he knows where she's going to be.

All right. Sarah, yay or nay on Don't worry, darling. Yay, definitely. Yeah, you liked it? You got anything to say about it without spoiling it? The best way I could say this. That initial description that you gave, like that one paragraph, is so misleading. Like, every word in that sentence is misleading, but then also completely accurate.

And that's what I loved about that movie. Okay. Okay. I like it. Brian, what do you think about it? I enjoyed it. I know it's kind of not getting great reviews right now. A lot of people are

saying there's a lot of plot holes and a lot of comparisons to other movies. Deptford Wides. Yeah. Because that's exactly what it is. Another movie, I'll kind of wait until spoilers to bring it up because it kind of

let you know where the movie goes. Yeah. But I thought I thought everybody did a fine job. I love I love Florence Pugh. I think she's an incredible actress. She killed it. She definitely killed it.

Even the bad reviews say that she killed it in this. Yeah. I mean, you can't fault anything that she did in a movie because she killed it. She had a wide range of emotions that she portrayed throughout the movie. And I think she's going to be like one of the great, great actresses. And within the next 10 years,

I think she's, I think she's going to win an award eventually. And Harry Styles did a fine job. I kind of, after the second sex scene, I was kind of like, I don't want to see a third sex scene because they're kind of went on a little too long.

Yeah, they seemed a little gratuitous. Yeah. You know, I was actually talking to Aaron about that, because we just saw it last night. Right? What you can really tell when a female directed a movie that has a sex scene compared to when a man or male directs a sex scene, in these in particular, the focus was on the woman's pleasure

and her reaching completion. I like that. Yeah. I agree. I kind of will get into that when we get into spoilers. Why I think that was. I mean, I totally agree that I think that's part of it, but I think the story-wise, it was like something else. Yeah, yeah.

They kind of, it kind of made sense a little later, but it still. Oh, true. True. Yeah. It still was like, I was. And it seems not necessary when they come up. A lot of codependency, right? Yeah.

I like the setting. I totally, you know, bought that they were actually in the 50s, you know, from the wardrobe to the background and everything I thought was spot on. Well, from what I know, I'm not from the 50s, but. And one more real quick, Nick Crowell. Yeah. I didn't expect to see him.

That guy, I was not expect. When I saw him, I thought he was. just kind of be going to be goofy. I love Nick Kroll, man. He kind of ramped up the intensity in some scenes in this. Right. And I kind of really enjoyed it. They're most of the movie.

Like, even in relatively calm scenes, he just had this wild look in his eyes, like he was on something all the time. He probably was. And I thought, as far as directing, I thought, I'll live you while, you know, I think she's got a good eye.

The movie looked fantastic, so. She's got giant eyeballs. But they're not Emma Stone eyes. Oh, that's true. Not quite there. She's got a smaller head. Lance, what did you think? I'll say that from the moment this movie started until the very end, it kept me guessing.

Even though there was a whole lot of stuff they gave away in the trailer that I wish they hadn't, like scenes that they showed that I really, really, really wish they hadn't shown like the guys in the red suits and stuff like that. They still managed to fucking surprise me at the end. Really? And yeah, that always gets me because I had no idea that it was exactly that. It was like a black mirror type thing. Oh, yeah. Without giving too much away. So the score was fucking phenomenal.

The way the 1950s and early 60 songs when mixed in was perfect. But the sound, you guys know that I love that movie that came out earlier men, right? Where they had the incredibly creepy, creepy soundtrack and like where she was in the tunnel going, and there we go.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got a lot of that from this. just a super, super creepy, lots of great music in the background. I would almost, not to cut you off, but I almost have to say you kind of have to, for that purpose,

see it in the theater to get that sound. I agree with you. There was a lot of... Gorgeous. Like scenes where she was focusing on stuff and there would be like sounds, you know, and kind of slowly, you know, revving up in the background.

And that, being in the theater, that kind of played a big, part in it. There was one scene in particular, okay? Where Florence Pugh walked into, and this is, but we're pretty spoiler still, she walked into a party where there was a map

of the town, right? But it was a little 3D map of like the city and she moved her fingers along the roads. It was like, okay, something's going on here that's bigger than what we think it is. And that's where the movie started pulling me in and intriguing me.

So there's very little about this movie to dislike. This is going to be the problem with this year. There's so many movies that I've enjoyed so much. A top 10 is going to be really tough because this truly could be a contender for me. Think so? Yeah, and a lot of that is because the end was completely different from what I, in my mind, I knew exactly what this was going to be from the trailer. because I'm like, okay, the trailer told us this, it told us this, it told us this, it told us this, they're in this closed off place.

I got the Westworld vibe, okay? I thought it was a Westworld type thing, and I thought they're going to be robots and stuff like that involved. We'll talk later about what really happened, but it, man, I don't know, this movie, this movie pulled me in. It was beautifully shot. It was amazing the way they put the desert and the desolate wasteland around this, you know, heaven on earth, city. It was wonderful the way they made it just like the 1950s. And they started it off like that where they were playing games where the women were like the objects. And they would put the little, you know, drink on their head on a tray. And they would be like this. And then the guy was like,

oh, baby gets a cigarette, you know, like so 1950s, so fucking masochistic. It's just, I love the way they pulled you in like that. You thought it was going to be one thing. To me, it turned out to be something totally different. I'm not mad with the direction that they went in. I really enjoyed this film from start to finish. Nobody put in a bad performance. Chris Pine was amazing.

He wasn't overused. Yeah. My worry going into this was that it was going to be like Chris, Chris Pine, you know, 101, right? Like where it was him in every fucking scene. but they put him in just enough to make him sinister and to make him, you know, and then when you find out...

His voice was throughout the movie, though. His voice was throughout the movie, which was actually kind of cool because as we find out later, which we can't talk about yet, that's why they heard his voice. But I thought everybody did a great job. Nick Crowe fucking blew me away.

I did not expect that good a performance from him. I didn't think he could do drama. I really did. I didn't think he could be that kind of character, but... We're finding out time and time again that a lot of comedic actors or stand-up comics can do dramatic roles. Yeah. Or write, you know, like Danny McBride, you know, writing Halloween and stuff like that. Like I've always kind of said, horror and comedy kind of...

Yeah. Horror and comedy kind of go hand in hand. they're just kind of two sides of the same coin same yeah yeah i i really i really enjoyed the movie guys i did and i i just got out of it but this is definitely one i'm going to have to see two or three more times before the end of the year before i can determine where it ends up okay so this movie i'm going to have to see a few more times nope i'm going to have to see a few more times uh that's um there's there's no doubt it's going to be in the top 10 um um um um um um um um um um um Everything everywhere all at once.

I've seen it twice. It's going to deserve at least the third viewing. There's just so much great shit coming out this year. And I really, I don't know where to put this right now. I guess I need to hear what you guys have to say. Not in league with those movies. But no, I really expected to hate this movie. Just because of all the drama that was going on and all the drama that Olivia Wilde is stuck in right now.

and the shit that she said after it came out, you know. But I enjoyed it a whole lot more than I expected to. Dude, Florence Pugh is kind of amazing. And you knew what the plot was and what was going to happen, for me at least, from the beginning in the movie. You just didn't really know how. Which direction they were going to take once they got there. You know what I mean? Sure.

And I, because it's Stefford Wives. That's what this movie is. And it just, which direction are they going to take with it? But yeah, I died. The cars were awesome. Yeah. No shit, dude.

That was fucking amazing. I really wish some car manufacturers. I'm going to get on my rant now. Right. 50s, 60s and 70s cars are completely different than any other decade. like if they would make a cool electric car and just style it like a fucking 60s back to supernatural that 67 Impala that they had you know it may be coming it may be coming phil well they're going to have to get their shit together because they all look like little bugs right now you know what I mean tiny little pregnant roller skates And Dodge seems to be at least halfway with it.

They've got some cool styles. But, man, bring America muscle back, please. That must thing that I've got coming looks pretty nice. Yeah. It's all electric. It's not bad. But, like, I wish they would go, like, style. The challengers, like the Dodge Challengers have kind of started to go back to that inspired body style.

Well, I like a lot of the stuff that Dodge puts out. I like the RAM. That's my truck. I just like the style better than any other truck. And they've got the Challenger and the charger. Charger starts to look like a regular car, but it's still different. And all the other cars just sort of blend in together. Mustang has done a pretty good job.

But I think they need to start going backwards rather than forwards. Understood. Anyway, that was my car rant. Your car rant. Welcome to Car Talk. Yeah. On NPR. I'm just throwing some suggestions out there in case anybody's listening, dude, make a cool car.

They don't have to look the same. But yeah, no, I like the direction they went with it. The end, it made sense. I wouldn't say that it surprised me. just because I Well, I knew something was coming along those lines. I just didn't know what it was going to be, but we'll get into that in spoilers.

And especially with all the drama and shit behind this movie, I expected it to really suck and it didn't. And I pirated this movie because of that. And I probably shouldn't say that. I'm glad I saw it in the theater. Just for the soundtrack. alone. I kind of wish I had because the sound was terrible

on the copy. It's still there. It's still there. Yeah. And this I think is a worth going to the theater to see it kind of movie. All right. Let's see. We do scores and spoilers.

Sarah, what's your score? I think I'm going to give it probably an eight. Nice. Nice. It exceeded a lot of my expectations. I admittedly didn't make the connection with Stepford wives until maybe a third of the way in. Like, I just thought it was going to deal with feminist issues,

but it was kind of a lot longer into the movie before I made the connection. That's also why I thought it was going to suck. And then even every time I was like, oh, I know that this is going to happen, it did it a different way than I thought it would. So every time I thought it was predictable, it was satisfying, but also, like, you know,

it kind of challenged you like, oh, I wouldn't have even thought to do it that way. But like you said, it wasn't perfect. There was some stuff that just kind of annoyed me a little bit, so that's why I wouldn't give it a perfect score, but it's definitely rewatchable. It's definitely thought-provoking. The cast was amazing, exceeded all of my expectations.

So, yeah, an eight. Yeah, and I'm, I'm not a huge fan of Harry Stiles in this movie. I think that it sounds weird at first with Shia LaBuff in it, but at the end of the day, I think that might have been a better movie. Really? He's a good actor. Yeah, he is.

There's times where I think Harry Styles kind of lacked intensity. Fonded it in, yeah. That Shia would have definitely brought that intensity. back to more of the drama have you guys seen that video there's like a Harry Styles they're Harry Styles and Chris Pine

are giving some interview to like a press junket or something and Harry Styles start talking and he it's like you know I wanted to make a movie that was like a movie

and he just sort of I would have to have to have a drone on I would have to disagree just a little bit in regards to Harry Stiles. I think he kind of pulled like a Joffrey Barathean, Draco Malfoy. Like I loved hating him. Yeah, that's true. And he was kind of pathetic.

And I think that's what made it so much more sinister. Okay. But like that in that interview when he's droning on, dude, you can see Chris Pine's eyes and he just loses his will to live. Watching the interviews and reading all the stuff, I'm convinced nobody liked each other in this movie. Yeah, it sounds like everybody hates each other and they'll

never work together again. Not much chance for a sequel, huh? Yeah. Although I'd love to see one after what happened at the end there, but we'll talk about that later. Number one in the box office.

What else is out? Nothing. But, you know. Morbius. Avatar. Shit, Morbius, popped up on Netflix pretty goddamn quick. No shit. Real quick. Brian, what's your score?

I pretty much agree with everything Sarah said, but I think I need to watch it one more time, so I'm kind of sitting at a seven right now, and most of that is off of Florence Pugh's performance. Yeah. I think if they would have had somebody else, after seeing her in this movie, I couldn't see anybody else in this movie. If they had to cast anybody else, it would have been shit.

And even though she's getting a lot of shit, I think Olivia Wilde's character, I think she knocked out of the park how that character came about, you know, where she was in the beginning of the movie and, you know, her arc near the end.

Yeah, I think she did a great job. Yeah. So, yeah, I think my score will eventually go up. This could off a rewatch end up in my top 10. I can't say right now. But for right now, it's a good solid seven. Okay. Lance, what do you think?

I'm going to go with an eight for all the reasons that I've said, but also to give a super mild spoiler, because I kind of have to because I have to explain. why I'm giving it an eight. There was a certain dance scene that made you realize that this wasn't just completely pro-feminist

because you have another character who's also being manipulated that doesn't have to be a woman. So, eight. Okay. All right. I'm going to stick with a seven.

I think that sounds like a pretty good score to me for this one. Just because it kind of surprised me. I really didn't expect to like it this much. And it was a pretty solid movie. Dude, Olivia Wilde, as much as I maybe don't like her as a person at the moment, she's not a terrible director. She's got a good eye for stuff. And I think if she keeps going, she could do some really good stuff. Yeah, for me, she's two for two right now. Yeah, and Florence Pugh, man, holy shit.

She's going to be huge. And I... Huge. And I like her, you know, right now. We all know, you know, we've seen her in the Marvel movies. We know her character is going to go on to be more used. Right. But I like she still makes these type of movies in between those.

See, and I didn't even know that. Because, you know, I loved her in the Marvel movies, but like I was kind of excited that she's breaking away from those and doing other stuff because I think that you know she's I was going to say she's better than that but there's a lot of really big players in the Marvel movies so I guess yeah no doubt I guess it doesn't hurt Tom Hiddleston is not exactly a you know a bad actor yeah would you guys but we'll see I mean I don't know I don't know about the the road Marvel's going down there they're kind of oversaturating things and it's it's her next her next movie is a good movie for her to be in she's going to be in the thunderbolts

which is basically like Marvel's suicide squad what okay and she's going to be from IMDB's cast list she's listed number one so I think she's oh wow

that movie so okay okay but I definitely carry a movie but I see she's doing a lot more smaller indie movies too. So like I said, I like that she's still, you know, she could just be sitting back doing the Marvel movies and just getting a paycheck.

But, you know, she's doing roles like this or Midsomar and I even liked her, I even liked her fighting with the family. You know, that was, she was based off a real character. And, you know, she kind of embodied that character. So. She's an athletic little thing, isn't she? Mm-hmm.

She starts running. And I'm like, damn, she's not going. Right. Running barefoot in the desert in this movie. Well, of course, she did the Black Widow stuff. Right. Right. Yeah, she's fit.

Would you guys like to know the Rotten Tomato score currently? No. Audience or critics? Rotten critics, it's sitting at a 38%. Yikes. Audience score, 78%. Okay. Well, we're.

close to the audience then we all we all recommend it right i don't know how much you can really bet on rotten tomatoes anymore i've heard so much shit from their stuff where you know the critic score is so vastly different than the audience score you know and they're like pay pay critics to leave their reviews that they want or something i don't know i don't know that's true or not Hey me I know All right Whatever you won't

Let me know All right Spoilers Spoilers This is a motherfucking Spoiler alert You've been fucking warned This is a motherfucking spoiler alert

You've been fucking warned This is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned All right This movie is Stepford Wives meets the Matrix. Yes. Yeah.

Good description, I guess, right? I couldn't say The Matrix because that would have kind of just gave away. I know. I wanted to too. I was a little nervous just saying blank mirror. Mm-hmm. And Westworld, too. Because even though they're not robots, it's still that, like, isolated, you know, independent sort of universe where they have full control over everything.

to an extent, like there's users that can come and go, and then there's those that are trapped, like, inside it, and it's like the trouble between the two. Yep. Good point. Good point. Yeah. And back to the sex scenes.

I think that by the end of it, it sort of made sense that they were a little prolonged and, you know, all about the woman, because that was just him wanting her and wanting her to do the things that he wanted her to do, you know? Yeah, I mean, I kind of took it as him being guilty of not being able to please her. Yeah. This was his way of pleasing her.

Yeah. Because when you get revealed on the real Harry style, well, whatever his character was. Right. This guy is a piece of shit. Yeah. He doesn't have a job. Florence Pugh's working 30 hours in the ER straight. He's sitting at home on his computer listening conspiracy theories and podcasts. Probably playing video games, right, Sarah?

He couldn't even come up with what to eat for dinner because she never texted back. I didn't know what you wanted to eat, so I couldn't eat anything. Like, did he need her to cook it for him? If you just not eat something that wasn't what she wanted to eat. Like, I couldn't tell if that was codependency, pure laziness, or I was trying to be considerate. Like, was it gaslight? There was so, I was so triggered. All of the above.

And then. And then, that was terrible. I tell you what, though, one really good scene that he did was when, after that, when he was all disheveled and shit, when. And once she was locked in and he was, I guess, going to work and coming back and laying down with her. He looked like a fucking loser. He pulled that off. And for a guy like that, pull that off is not bad. I have a question about one of the characters.

Which is also why I thought Shia Labuff might have worked better in that role. I have a question about one of the characters that played the pregnant lady. was she just to be forever pregnant seen that way right they said she's always pregnant yeah they what I think her name was like Pam or something and I think Olivia Wilde

yeah you're right and Lance said they're saying Pan Pam Pam Sam Sam I'm the step brothers yeah

but they she kind of mentioned you know always pregnant Pam And then it kind of made me think. I'm like, is she like, is that like how he wants her to be? I guess so. That's weird. Even in the beginning when they're drinking and smoking.

And he was like, drink up, you're pregnant. What are you doing? And I was like, this is kind of strange. But then once you get to reveal, I'm just like, okay, kids don't exist in this world. So. Yeah. Well, that. And if they're really trying to dive into the.

1950s mindset that kind of is what a lot of people thought. Like, you know, fetal alcohol syndrome wasn't a term that was talked about. So, like, if they really want to immerse themselves, then it's absolutely normal for them to want to drink it up while they're pregnant. Yeah, I mean, 50s, that's, yeah. Well, and then you have Olivia Wiles character that when you find out that she's, it's so important for her to have her kids back, that she lost and the fact that she's actually willing to help Florence Pius's character out there at the end, that's pretty strong for her to take that stand, you know?

Think about it. How much do you think it costs to be in this world? Because they would have to, the husbands would have to leave. Yeah, he said he had to leave to work to pay for them to be there. Yeah. But wasn't it experimental or? Oh, okay. Ah, I see what you're saying, Sarah.

It's like he said it was absolutely hell on them to have to go work. Yeah, because he tried to justify why she should enjoy living there because she never has to leave. He has to leave. Okay, so maybe he had to go do dastardly deeds, right, to come up with the money, like drug dealing. I didn't really get that vibe. I think it was more, it was his idea to bring them to that universe. This was the perfect world that he wanted, not her. And so it was hell on him to have to be the one to leave it when it was him who wanted it in the first place.

Yeah, and I'm assuming it costs a lot of money because when you get the flashbacks of him going to work and then coming home and he's eating tuna fish out of a can. Yeah. Okay. So I just kind of. Again. It's not exciting. He's trying to get out, get the things that he needs to get to get. done there so that he can get back to...

Okay, see, see this is a movie I need, again, I need to rewatch because I thought he meant when they were in that world, she didn't have to do anything, but just stay home and be a housewife and clean a little bit. She doesn't ever leave, and he has to. Okay, okay. It's... Oh, holy fucking shit.

I think it's on HBO about the Metaverse. and like people that basically live their lives in VR. Yeah, I mean, we kind of seen something like this in Inception. Yeah. And that scene where all the people were sleeping and there was somebody constantly caring for them while they were in their dream state. Yeah. Because you see him give her the eye drops and then, you know, kind of, I guess, giving her water by bringing a rag. in her mouth.

Oh. Well, I think it's for too much water, then she's going to piss the bed. So, you know, just enough to wet the lips a little bit. I like this. I like this baby even more now. Yeah. I got to, I got to rewatch this.

Yeah. I mean, there's just like a little thing. Well, really bothered me at the very end, you know, like you, you hear the sound of her waking up after the screen has gone black, right? Yeah. My immediate thought was, okay, so he's dead next to her. And she's hand. cuffed and wrist and like ankle cuffed to this bed.

Right. How the fuck is she going to get out? Yeah. Like, oh my God. And hope a neighbor hears her before she starves to death or like, now we're into Gerald's game. Well,

they may not even be in their house. They may assume she died because they said they were sending somebody to kill her. Yeah, I kind of wish we'd have seen what happens after. She made it to the, Yeah, but like Sarah said, she woke up and she was still bound to the bed. Yeah, but not like Olivia Wilde's character said, when your husband dies here, he dies in the real world,

when they realize he's dead, they will send someone to kill your real body. I want to see the sequel, though, where the wife, I want to see where Chris Pine's wife has taken over the world now. Oh, yeah. That needs to be the next movie. I mean, that makes sense. And that for me kind of, I think that was played well because that came out of nowhere

because she was pretty, she was pretty much like the Glenn Close. Yeah, right? And you really got that vibe from her when Alice Florence Pugh was having her outburst at the dinner. And it's, and you know, Chris Pine is just kind of goading her on. He's like, yeah, dig your own grave.

Like, the more you talk, the crazier you sound, which was kind of on brand for him. And then, like, the wife just out of nowhere just starts getting super offended. And she's like, you spoiled little brat. Like, how dare you complain about having the perfect life? Like, you don't deserve it. She got so upset. That's true. That this woman wasn't accepting of her husband's gift.

It's not her husband's gift. It's her gift. But she believes so wholeheartedly in that it's kind of like in Handmaid's Tale with Commander Waterford's wife, Serena Waterford. Yes, yes. It's like a woman who is instrumental in creating her own like domestic prison, basically. The difference being this woman has complete control over the scenario and is just inflicting it on others. Whereas in The Handmaid's Tale, Serena is like, I made this country and now. I'm not allowed to read and they're cutting off my finger and like, you know, doing all this awful stuff to me.

Oops. And still supports it anyway. And I definitely got those vibes from her as soon as she got offended. I was like, mm, okay. Yeah, because there are theories that like the stuff with the airplane and stuff of them seeing the airplane and other little kind of, I guess, glitches that were happening. Yeah. A lot of theories are said she was causing. them to kind of get them to snap out of it.

Also, also the little boy that got lead out into the desert and was lost, had an airplane, a toy airplane. Yeah. I want to see a sequel. I think there's more to this story. With everything going on, I don't think it'll happen. I wouldn't expect it. I sure wish there would be, man. It'll neither be the same cast and different director or...

Okay. that that ending i think it was an okay ending but i do wish that we had gotten a little more seen some more conclusion but me too me i mean you know it's always a pretty good engine ending when you when you sort of leave it up to interpretation but uh in this case i don't know if it's that kind of movie why is her job not concerned she never came back to work yeah no kidding is nobody looking for her at all I mean, clearly, they stay in the same apartment, so. Took off a 30-hour shift and didn't come back.

Probably my two, if I had complaints about the movie, the airplane thing was definitely one because it's like they made a point of, like, she saw an actual plane crash and that led her in the desert. And then if the little boy wasn't real, but he had a toy plane. and then they took him from her because she wandered out there. So it was like, okay, so you're trapped in a simulation with a fake child, but losing this fake child drove you so crazy that your mind broke you out of the simulation. So then why would an image of the same airplane also be what breaks the other person out?

Maybe there were clues there that connected those, but I didn't pick up on them. I think they were trying to say what led them. to the desert is what they saw, not necessarily the boy being taken away. They saw glimpses of, I guess, their actual real life or whatever. Because they were all going to the same place, because if you notice, that's where when they got, with the husbands go to work, they all drive to that same place. And, of course, she wanted to go help the people in the crashed airplane because she's a doctor. and that makes sense.

Yeah, good point. Good point. Yeah, and she was working 30 hours a day or whatever. And then, of course, another thing that was kind of snapping her out was the constant humming of the tomb. That was a song that I'm assuming was her and her husband, something that they was their song or something. Yeah, probably. Probably something he played for her back in the real world. I'm guessing.

Yeah, I figured it was some kind of brainwashing thing from the beginning. I just didn't expect the virtual reality part of it. And I like that. I respect the way they did that. Yeah. I wasn't expecting that at all. It was a pretty solid, solid end. All right.

You guys, any more spoilers? Or you're ready to sign out? Yeah. Can't think of anything else to say. Yeah. I think we've covered a lot. So Sarah, thanks for joining us. Thank you for having.

A good show. And I know there's some, tell us a little bit about your business you've got. There's some dragon masks. Yeah. So my fiance, Aaron Broff, he's with Waterview creations, right? Is it Waterview? Yeah, Waterview Productions. Sorry.

He specializes in educational props. He usually does things like alligators mostly, but he's done like turtles and snakes and things like that. And he's done latex or rubber just depending on like how tactile you want it to be. But recently for the release of Game of Thrones, he made a fully functional, wearable, like mouth moves, eyes glow, dragon masks. And he's got the base mold. ready. So, you know, it's like it'll have that same shape as the one in his video, but he'll do custom paint jobs. Like you want it, you know, painted with a clown mask on it or you want it like blue and purple or like Puff the Magic Dragon, you know, whatever kind of paint job you want. They're made to order.

Nice. All right. So we'll put up, we'll definitely put that on our, uh, on our Facebook group and our main page. Can you handle that, Brian, if I send you. Yeah, I got it. I got it. All right. Nice. Nice. All right. So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You know where to reach us. Thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, we're going to put it on a happy face, a hap-app, happy face. And we're going to check out the brand-new movie Smile.

Which looks kind of silly, but we'll see. I'm hearing good things. I'm hearing it could be like a sleeper hit movie. Ah, okay. I know baseball's going on, and I guess for the movie, they've been placing people in the crowd. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, look. I was like, why does that lady look crazy? And then I read it. It was for promotion for the movie. That's cool. Well, we're also going to check out 2020 to have Smiley. What is that, Brian? A movie that's probably going to be really bad,

but it's the best I can do. In that case, Brian, Until the horror returns again, good night.