The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #332: Smiley (2012) & Smile (2022)

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

This week, we get our smile on as we check out the brand new Smile, as well as 2012's Smiley. Cool of the Week includes Poltergeist, IT, and Six Flags Fright Fest. Trailers are The Last of Us, Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities, and Bones and All. Podcast spotlight shines on The Confused Breakfast. And we get feedback from The Malphasian Sphinx, Mariana Frusciante, zeeshan89, Rzgar Amini, Angie Scott, Marcus Wilturner, Cult of Erin, CJ DuCote, and Monte Light. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Oh, to the horror returns. I'm Lance, with me as always.

My co-host, Fabulous Philip, Fabulous Philip, Brutal Brian. It's the OG3. Nez is nowhere to be seen. he's got his luggage luggage coming out at the southwest terminal hopefully he'll pop up but

Brian you guys probably started some 31 days huh? Bullshit he lost that luggage a long time ago yeah Ned's already he got started I think so far he's put out I probably get the order

mixed up but Psycho 2 demons 2 and oh wow Damien the Omen 2 so it looks like he did a bunch of sequels right out the gate. But me and him's got some stuff coming. Nice. All right.

Yeah. It's been a busy week. Philip, I'm sure you're enjoying that the weather's getting cooler when you're working of those addicts and shit, huh? I tell you what, yeah. It's definitely better. And, you know, for those middle of day soccer and baseball games, I got going every weekend right now.

it's kind of nice to for it to not be blazing. Those poor girls, man. We had a 9-year-old soccer team and like half of them don't show up. So they're all on the field all the whole time playing at like 12, 30 on Saturday. Wow.

Yeah, if it's 100 degrees outside, they're all just beat red. Rough. Rough stuff, man. Brian, you're probably loving the weather right now, huh? That's getting cooler. It's still raining. It's weird.

It's been raining for a right two months. Interesting. All right. I mean, rain don't bother me. I like listening to it when I go to bed. It's cracked a window open. Yeah.

It's very soothing. There you go. Definitely helps. And then you can listen to rain drops, keep falling on my head, the background. The only thing I'm dreading is I hope it's not still raining when the snow comes because.

Oh. Yikes. Yikes. When the roads get real bad and they shut down the schools and probably unfortunate for me, I'll still have to go to work. Jesus Christ, man. Oh, man. They're five those fucking tennis rackets to strap on your feet.

Oh, that's right. You'll do that up in Alaska. I forgot about that. I don't got some. I got some ice cleats. I had to use them one year. It got really, really bad. It's an actual thing, huh?

Yeah, they're just like, you know, like regular like sport cleats, but they hook onto the bottom of your shoe. Kind of like the magnetic anti-Grab boots that the astronauts wear when they go out to repair the damages on the side of the spaceship? Yeah, but not as cool. Damn, all right. You still fall down. Okay. Are you guys ready to get into some cool of the wheat? Yeah, I'll jump in first.

I usually have a bunch, but I only have one. It's all right. I think it was the day after, yeah, the day we recorded, as soon as we were done, I took my daughter to go see the 40th anniversary of Poultergeist in the theater. Oh, no shit. Thanks. I didn't even hear that there was a 40th anniversary screening. Yeah, it was pretty cool.

I've seen it a million times, and she's seen it once before. But I'm trying to, when I hear there's a movie that was a big part of my childhood. I try to take her. So she enjoyed it. So since you took her to see Poultergeist, I'm assuming that you second feature Young at home and you put on the Kevin Bacon movie that we reviewed with Poultergeist. No. Matter of fact, she has no idea who Kevin Bacon is.

Let's keep it that way. Yeah, no shit. Because I took her to see the movie we're going to talk about later, later on. Okay. And I was telling her that the main actress, I was like, that's Kevin Bacon's daughter. And she was like, oh, nice. Who's that? No shit.

Kevin Bacon's daughter? Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah, when you know that and you go back and look at her, you can kind of see a little bit of him and her. No shit. Okay. I didn't know. Does that count as a degree?

It might. Big time. But, yeah, Polterguise was super cool in the theater. It looked great up there. And, you know, it was just a great time taking her to see something that I grew up with. And she really enjoyed it.

So there's a bunch more coming in to the theater. Some I'm going to talk about news that just got announced. And one we talked about a couple weeks ago. I already bought tickets for, and that's the Dawn of the Dead. 3D. Oh, 3D. George from there. Ness was talking about that.

Yeah, we're definitely going to go see that. I think that's the 28th. Yeah, I'll bet that one's not going to be included in my AMC A list. I'll probably have to still buy a ticket. Yeah. I forgot how much. Tickets weren't that bad, but. Okay.

It's something. I'm trying to We're kind of stepping a game up on her Horror viewing. She's going to do 31 of her own this month and she's going to do the whole Halloween franchise. No shit.

Yeah, I have to send her something because I try to break it down how certain stuff don't count anymore and other things at its own timeline and she was just like, what? Yeah, you have to draw like one of those walls. What is it? They do the conspiracy?

theory, Philip, like Charlie Day or whoever. Yeah, because I was trying to break it down. I was like, you definitely have to watch the original. Well, yeah. Right. And then you can go this route or this route or this route. And then I was like, don't forget about the remix. She was like, there's remakes. Why is there remakes if they're still doing the original? And I was like, that's just Hollywood.

Wow. Wow. All right. So culture guys. Nope. Never changed that one. I've been watching stuff with my daughter, too, actually. She's decided she wants to watch some more horror movies. So we're watching the latest remake of It.

Oh, okay, cool. She keeps telling me how it's not scary. That seems a little intense, Philip. Like, all right. Yeah, she's nine. So, wow. I'm like, all right, we're going to have to watch The Exorcist. Okay.

Make sure you show to the director's cut so you get the spider walk down the stairs. That was the part that got me in the theater, man. Was it? Wow. But yeah, so we watched that. Caught up on House of the Dragon. Okay. Still a pretty cool show.

Confusing that they changed characters. characters a little, but, uh, right. I mean, it makes sense once you, once you're following along with it. I got to go grab that HBO Max again. They're doing like a half price thing through October 28th. I think you can get one year for half price or something like that. Yeah.

But it's like this whole season seems like it's kind of build up to some serious shit. And I'm not sure if that shit's going to happen. Yeah, they've let us, they've let us down before, haven't they? Yeah. Like, it, this, this may just be a season of setting everything up. Yeah, they,

after episode one, they already greenlit season two. So, yeah. But I'm not caught up, but I've heard so far nothing but good things. Mm-hmm. I haven't heard anybody really complained about anything. Yeah.

Yeah, same here. I've only seen one episode, so I'm way behind. The only complaint I've heard is changing those two actresses because they're the only ones on the show they got changed. Although they were, they were very young in the first

couple episodes. Yeah, well, okay. It was like a time jump in it. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of time jumps. Okay.

Well, there has to be. It's a 200 year history book. So, yeah, well, I think they're only cover. Like,

yeah, I think they're only covering like 30 years. Ah, okay. It's like dancing, dragon, stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised, Philip, if they do the time work, just to, to move it on to the same. second season. Well, and that may be what they should have done, you know, like started with some characters

that we actually know who they are, you know, Mad King or whatever, and then just on backwards. Interesting, yeah. That probably could have worked out if it was done the right way. Give somebody something to hold on to, you know? Yeah. Oh, I know that is, you know, instead of just bringing in completely new characters and you're starting from scratch. All right. So is that the official cool of the week?

Yeah, I think so, although I'm really enjoying watching some horror movies with my daughter. And it was... Nice. Yeah, the remake of the It is pretty good. All right. At least that first half of it, you know. Let's put it down. Your son's not having none of it?

I can't get him off. If I could find something that he's interested in as much as... Video games? Minecraft. Oh, no shit. Yes. Fortnite. Dude, they can play that for...

He's still playing Fortnite? I think so. I think he does Fortnite. Left for Dead, too, somehow. That's a game that we started playing a long time ago. That's a fun one. Yeah, like a 20-year-old game. I saw they just did a remake,

I don't know what they call it, where they take the older games and they... kind of touch them up for newer systems. Yeah. Yeah, he's not a lot of modded junk. Yeah, they just released House of the Dead. You remember the original arcade? Oh, God.

Remember when you made us review that fucking movie, Brian? That one, and leapt in the hood. I'm talking about the game, not the movie. The game was pretty good. I remember the arcade one when you had a little... Oh, hell yeah. That was fun, man. Yeah, I just seen the Xbox store. they just, I guess,

re-reed, kind of like how they've been doing the Resident Evil games, like redoing the original ones. They remade, remake sounds like they changed it, but remixed it up. Remixed. Made it look good, I guess. Yeah, re-released, there you go.

House of the Dead. I think I'm going to purchase that and give it a try. I haven't played, should, I haven't played House of the Dead since the original arcade game. I know. I mean, neither. I have not watched the movie since we did the review.

What a shocker. I was going to, although we had a lot more fun with it than I thought we were going to, you know? Yeah. It was so bad it's good for sure. I'm surprised that's not one that Nez pulls off his shelf every week. It might be on his, well, no, no, he's already got his movies picked for his list. If we ever get around to it. Yeah.

I'll send you updated schedule. All right. You got a friend from the UK that's been trying to come on. Oh, really? Is it Harry Potter? That would be big for the show. Harry Potter showed up. King Charles.

Oh, no. Alex, you little jerugies. What's the name? Charles, Philip. Which one is it? Charles, right? He's the king. Ah, sure.

Sorry, guys. Okay. Now we've shown our British stupidity. We're going to be laughed at big time now. But no, it is Charles. Charles is the king now. Yeah. Long live the queen, as they say, right?

There won't be another one definitely in our lifetime. Game of Thrones, actually. Yeah. Kind of on that subject. Did you guys see the guard that, like, fainted? No. No. Yeah.

What? I don't know if it was just emotions or nerves or whatever, but it was like when they were televised in the, I don't know, the viewing or whatever. He locked his knees is what happened. Yeah. He just dropped. Many guys stand out of detention that just fell over. Oh, God. Yeah, it was kind of embarrassing because it was so, like, just, you know, it was a funeral.

It was very quiet, and all of a sudden you just see this guy just drop, and it's one of the parts. I guarantee you that's what happened. He locked his knees and fucking pass out. Epic fail. All right, so, oh, cool of the week, right? Yes. Oh, six flags, fright fest, boys. Nice.

Yeah. very nice. Fucking hey, I took the granddaughters and I thought okay, well, you know, we'll get to do it a little bit, but man, they put so much money into it this year. And it's so nice to be able to go somewhere in public, you know,

without masks everywhere, mask everywhere. And it was just a lot of fun. I got to tell you guys the haunts. So they open those at like 6 o'clock and you can start going in. Well, one of them opens at 5, the rest open at 6.

So since I had the granddaughters, I wanted to get to them pretty quickly. So I was going through all by myself, like without a group. And I've never been as fucked with in my life, Brian. I have never been fucked with in a haunted house the way I have at those fucking Six Flags houses. I was wearing my Captain Spalding gasoline and fried chicken t-shirt. Yeah, I probably had something to do with it. I think it had a lot to do with it. And being literally alone.

Like the first group was way before. four of me in the last group hadn't entered yet. And then, like, one of the guys, he started singing the little fried chicken, fried chicken jingle for Captain Spalding. I was a blast. Knew what they were talking about. That's pretty cool. I'll tell you what.

The height of the night, boys, I don't know how they got away with this and a family-friendly six flags, but those dancing girls were super hot. They call them the Hells Bells. I don't know if they're really singing or lip-syncing. I think they're really singing, but they do, you know, like bad romance and bad guy. And, you know, kind of like quasi-horror theme songs.

Sure, you're not there to see them sing. Yeah. No, I went for the granddaughters. The only reason we said at the front row and got there an hour early was just so they could, you know, get a chance to see the show. Yeah, I got you. Because then after that, we left. but the place is cool, man. They actually had a pumpkin patch set up where you can like paint your own pumpkin shit like that.

So they're spending a lot of money to get people back in the parks, which is very nice to see. That makes sense. Yeah, coming after COVID and everything. Yeah, they got a rebound. There was a lot of talk about they may be having to go into bankruptcy protection again. So that never happens me. I mean, when you're not allowed to have anybody in the park for a couple of years, that's got to be. tough. You know what was

tough, Philip? That my boys, Brian and Philip, weren't there with me. I know. I'm really not kidding. You guys really fucking would have loved it. Maybe next year. I haven't been to six flags

probably 20 years. Well, look, we got Fright Mirror in May. Can we try to plan this for next October? Yeah. Or even late September, because if you go late, like the earlier you go in the season the less crowded the haunted houses are yeah yeah i got i got to bring the kid though can't oh fuck yeah in fact maybe we'll all go meet it at a different six flags than the one in

texas if you guys want like go travel somewhere else spend spend a weekend or something i don't know i'm going crazy now had a good time that's nice that's cool yeah how do the kids Oh man. They love it. They do the haunts? Hell no. They didn't touch the haunts. Really?

No, I had Addison went with her little friend and Tatum was there, the four-year-old. So I was with Tatum almost the whole day. But I'll tell you what, when a four-year-old grandchild looks at you and like three different times during the day says, Papo, this was the funnest day of my life. Yeah? That counts for all. You know what? I'm not even pissed that my car broke down on the way back.

Yeah, and it's in the mechanics now, and God only knows what the bill is going to be. It's taking them more than a day to fix it, so that's, that's 1,000. The meter's running. Tomorrow's 2000. Today after that, it's going to be 3,000. But fuck it. What are you going to do, right? Six Flags, Bright Fest.

Man, it reminded me that, what was that movie we saw guys with the amusement park? Oh, Hellfest. Hellfest, yes, it definitely were, I mean, they might have even gone above and beyond Hellfest, man. I mean, everybody was getting into it. A lot of costumes. My favorite part of the haunted houses is when there's like a group of teenagers in front of you or something. Oh, yeah. Because they like to fuck with those guys, too.

Yes, they do. They're usually hilarious. It was a good time. It was a good time. Oh, Brian, you said we had some news stories tonight, huh? Yep, I got some news. Second week in a row. I did notes.

I did notes. Nice, nice. I don't know what's come over me. Uh-oh. Update on theater releases. Like I said, I was going to talk about Scream 2. This made me feel real old. The 25th anniversary will be in theaters.

Of Scream 2? Yes. 25 years. I'm holding up for Scream 3, guys. You do that. And the Lost Boys will be in theaters October 9th. Okay. Now that one I'll go see.

No shit. I got to take the daughter to scream, too. After we reviewed the new scream, I took her to that. Became a big fan, like, has watched the whole franchise multiple times. Very nice. Yeah, that's a good franchise. It's scary, but it's not too scary, you know? Yeah, that seems like a good one for the age.

group. So that may be something I'll add to the list for my daughter. After I scared the living bejesus out of her, we're at least going to watch the old it first. Skip, that's a good choice. Ah, come on, that's my favorite. Go right into four.

Tell her that was a typo. They didn't mean to put four. It was actually a three. Can I make a suggestion? After you finish it, check out Pet Cemetery Remake with her. Ah. that might do it

all right a little I got a little non-horror news some Marvel's Armour War series starring Don Chito

will now be a movie what they got yeah I guess in development of the series they're like no this this is a movie we're going to put it out in theaters think it theatrical

all right well not too mad about that I mean hopefully that they won't, you know, take too much of the storyline out of it. Yeah, what I'm hoping is, since the main focus will be on Don Chito's War Machine, maybe they get Robert Downey Jr. to come back and he can be like the new Jarvis, you know, the whatever it is that talks in the suit. Yeah, but isn't there a younger kid who's built, who's working on an Iron Man suit?

That's in Black Panther. And that's going to be in the movie? Yeah. And what's the character's name? Iron Heart. Iron Heart, yeah. Iron Heart, okay. Now, is Iron Heart going to be in Armour Wars?

Because you would think so, right? Yeah, and I'm hearing rumors of Sam Rockwell, his character from Iron Man 2, because that was Tony's direct competition. Yes, his nemesis. Sam Rockwell could come in and play anybody who wants to, is all? Right. Somebody's got to sell these weapons. Yes. Well, and I've always thought that War Machine was kind of underutilized

because I thought he was cooler than Iron Man when I was a kid. Well, there you have it. A cool name. Yeah. Looks cooler. It doesn't have the fucking flashy colors, you know? Yeah. This one is kind of a rumor, but I heard it was going to, it was going to be announced at D23

that we all know that William Hurt, passed away and he played General Thunderbolt Ross in the Marvel movies. Rumor is Harrison Ford is going to replace him as that character. Oh my God. I don't want to tell you the first thing that just

crossed my mind. That would be so tacky. They said they were going to... Yeah, you got it. He read my mind. I'm like, I hope he survives to the film. Yeah, they get far from it, man, Harrison Ford. He's... Get off.

one guy right now. But see, right there, that is the perfect reason why he needs to play this character. He needs to bring that old man energy. Right. The reason why, I think this came from Kathleen Kennedy, the reason why they didn't announce it at D23 because they just announced new stuff for the new Indiana Jones movie that just finished filming.

They didn't want to take away from that. Ah, okay. Yeah, I could see that. So, but, you know, I'm a fan of Harrison Ford. So, and like I said, he needs to bring that old man energy. And he don't really have to do much, but just yell at people. I guess I'm not too far behind him, so. Hell he's Harrison Ford. He's got to be like.

He's 90, isn't there, 80? I don't know. He's going to be cracking a whip and doing flip, Mac flips and shit and caves. All right. If Harrison Ford outlast Clint Eastwood, I'll be surprised. Oh, he's impressed. Over or under 75? Over.

Got to be over. Harrison Ford is 80 years old. There you go. Why is he still working? Retire. Well, I know he wanted to do Indiana Jones. That's the only reason he came back to play Han Solo is if that dude because that last Indiana Jones movie was not good. And he finally got his death that he wanted like in the very.

first fucking movie. Yeah. So. Oh, you're fucking aliens. I don't care about you, Star Wars nerds. I don't even know what the fuck movie I'm in. Who am I playing? Captain Kirk.

Didn't a door fall on him when he was filming? I don't know, dude. Something like that. All right. Last non-horror news. We knew we were getting a Deadpool 3. We knew it was going to be an MCU. We also knew it was going to be ready.

are, well, we got a release date. September 6, 2024. And in the video announcement for it, Hugh Jackman joined Ryan Reynolds. He's coming back for Wolverine. One more time. One more time. One mogen. And then he stopped everybody that was going to say, well, didn't you die? And he was like, Logan was set in the future. This movie's not nice. Yes, and it was. That is correct. So, as long as it's for more than one scene. the way they announced it this basically seems like a

it might as well be called Deadpool slash Wolverine I hope it is that sounds fantastic what Deadpool should always be so I think it's going to be I think it's going to be cool

he looked at I know they've kept this back and forth going because he's always they've always kind of called each other out you know based on their characters and it was just cool to see him pop up in this video Ryan Reynolds doing and, you know, he just comes and sits

down next to him and, like, you know, I'm back as Wolverine. I was like, that's pretty fucking cool. I mean, if you're going to come back for one movie, that'd be the one for me. Yeah. Where did you see this, Brian? You can pull it up on YouTube. Yeah, it's like to check that out.

Okay, all right. All right, horror news. You're going to start with TV. the first episode of Anne Rice's interview with the Vampires already out, and it is already renewed for a second season. Oh, okay. Not too surprising. Anybody seen it? Nope.

I was going to check it out. I was going to check it out, but just so much to watch. Yeah, I did watch a couple of the tales from The Walking Dad. Oh, yeah, how are they? I honestly, I only really love. liked the episode with the first one no it was I think it was the second one that had the alpha the no no it was like oh the comedy chicks yeah the groundhog day thing because it was so unexpected right which was yeah well that's he been in there yet yeah he was in the first one

one oh i like i've liked all three i've seen so far i just like the way each one's so different than the other but i love the one one that introduced Alpha from the Whispers. Okay. Yeah, you may not have gotten that far. It doesn't matter. What the fuck do I say? Spoil the Walking Dead.

These motherfuckers, hold on, rant time. These motherfuckers at AMC Plus, they sent me a fucking email that it says, we got more Walking Dead action coming out than ever before. We have an unprecedented number of series debuting this year. First of all, let's join Maggie and Nagin in post-apocalyptic, York City. Then we travel with Europe. We travel with Darrell to Europe for an adventure. And then

finally, Rick and Michone, they're back together. So basically, we know everybody who's not going to die. Yeah, that's why. I was going to try to catch up with the Walking Dead, but just all these announcements saying this person's having a series that takes place after

their main series, I was like, there's no point then. Yeah, stay away. I'm so deep into the Walking Dead, man. I can't get out. I'm trapped. I kind of lost interest in it. But I'm more interested in that than the fucking Ann Rice thing. Are you?

Yeah. I have no desire to watch that show. This is your chance to get it to get in a pop shot on me, man, because I was fucking with you for watching all of Supernatural. I was about to say Maggie was in a few of the supernatural episodes. Okay. Was fucking smoking hot. Very nice All right

I show that I still watch Is American Horror Story Yes I didn't know the new season Was coming out so soon They just announced American Horror Story New York City

New York City Premier's October 19th Okay So I They're running out of ideas guys I mean What

What Okay Is it just about living there? It could be. I'm trying to wonder. Oh, boy. All right. Well, I guess we'll give it a chance, right?

Yeah, I mean, I haven't hated any of the seasons. I mean, definitely some seasons. I've hated a few. Which ones? Oh, man, I didn't like hotel very much. You didn't want Lady Gaga getting banged? And then, like, finally, somebody after?

I don't know that I finished that one. I didn't hate any. of them though. They were all pretty interesting. I was actually a little more impressed than I expected to be with the hotel. I think the one thing I'm really impressed with is how they're all connected

even though they all take place during different time periods. I like that style of a whole new story every season though. And I kind of wish more shows would pick that up. Yeah, I agree. We may see more.

All right. Eli Roth and 50 Cent have come together to sign a three-picture deal with the three-black-dot production company, and all three movies will be horror films. A 50-cent horror. Get the fuck out of here. Now, you may laugh at it. 75-6. What he's done at Stars, he's cranked out hit TV shows left and right. Oh, he's producing them? Yeah. No, shit.

All those powers shows and spin-off shows. Yeah, I've heard of them. Those are all his. Hmm. I had no idea. And he realized his worth was, and they didn't want to, is that the ghost? Yeah, that's the ghost. They didn't, I guess he realized his worth, and they weren't wanting to pay him, so he's leaving.

stars so it does surprise me he's kind of moving on to movies now okay and i know elai roth is kind of hit or miss with a lot of people i don't hate eli ross yeah you know i'm interested to see what's what's to come of this um you know i'll keep everybody updated and what the movies are so well you know we're going to watch him so it doesn't really matter you know yeah this one i think we all we'll definitely watch. Michael Doherty said a trick-of-treat sequel is an active development right now. Believe it when we see it type thing.

Yeah, I think with him kind of doing these bigger budget movies, like I think he would do, the Godzilla King of Monsters. Right. I think that's going to help him get financial funds to do something that's not as big.

Can't hurt. Definitely. Can't hurt. You know what? I bet a trick-or-treat sequel would be bigger than you would expect. Yeah. I would expect to be pretty big. Yeah.

I'm going to say the budget's going to be definitely bigger than the first one. Oh, yeah. Let's see. Lance, who was on the show when we were talking about the crow was never going to get rebooted? Oh, was that? Oh, man. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit.

Probably somebody actually knew what the fuck they were talking about. Some family outside. Was it Darium? It might have been him. I think it might have been Darian, Brock, if I remember correctly. Oh, Darien, you were wrong because the Coral reboot with Bill Scarsguard has wrapped in him. No. Like in Pennywise himself, huh?

As the crow? Yeah. Okay. Sure. Why not? All right. If Dane Dahan could do it, he can. All right.

Dane Dahan was the crow. Wasn't he? That was Edward Furlong. Oh, okay. All that's a bad idea, man. Get a martial arts guy in there. No shit. Tony Jaws, the crow.

I'll watch that. Yeah. Probably never see that. Well, I wonder if he's going to have some martial arts training in this, because he's in the new John Wick movie as one of the hitmen. So I wonder if he. That makes sense. Carried over some of that training to do this movie.

So I'm not, he's definitely not going to be Brandon Lee. Right. You know, I like him as an actor. He does like creepy shit. Sure. Yeah, I know. I just, I don't know that it necessarily fits this, you know, left eye crow. I guess we're going to find out.

Another week, more Samara weaving news. This week, she's attached to star in the action horror movie called Asriel from writer Simon Barrett. He's one of the mumblecore guys, right, Lance? Yes, yes. Sounds familiar, yeah. That's a demon, right? Yeah. Okay, cool.

Hey, Samara Weaving, fighting demons. Yeah. Maybe she is the demon. Well, she's hot, so. You let her possess you, huh? I don't know why I keep updating this movie, but I keep fucking up her name. Tysa Formiga, Vera Formiga's sister. Yeah, sure.

Returning to play her character for the Nun 2. All right. There you go. Well, there's one good thing about the movie. All right, two more things real quick. Robert Eggers, Nosphorus, Nassphratu remake, kind of stalled there. It was to star, Anya Taylor. Joy, right?

Oh, okay. I didn't hear about this. I don't think. It is back on and it's added. We just talked about him. Bill Scarsguard. Of course. Lily Rose Depp. Okay. And I think I talked about her a couple weeks ago. I think she's turning out to be a pretty good little actress.

Even though she was in that horrible Kevin Smith movie. Oh. Yoga. Yoga. yoga hosers that's right i didn't watch that one i didn't either or they had like nazi sausages jumping out at the end or something like that yeah and johnny devs showed up as that character from the tusk oh that's right okay lastly uh i think this one is a rumor hasn't yet been confirmed but uh they're doing a remake to 1978's Magic.

I heard about that. Creepy doll movie starred Anthony Hopkins. Oh, yeah. And the rumor is it will be directed, not produced, James Warren, directed by Sam Ramey. Is Anthony Hopkins going to be in it? Anthony Hopkins is older than Harrison Ford, so. He should be in it, though.

I don't even know. One of them to be on screen. That guy is on Instagram, and I don't know why. Anthony Hopkins? Yeah, he does like little Instagram videos where he's just saying random shit. I'm like,

let him have it, man. Take his device away from him. It's kind of weird like... His granddaughter set him up for failure. I don't know if he's ever seen like Matthew McConae on social media. Uh-uh, no. It's a strange guy.

Yeah. Well, all right, all right, all right. It's like he says something that's supposed to be inspirational and you're just kind of like, huh? But you can see he's just kind of like, yeah, that's right. The best offense is a good defense. He's not running for governor anymore, is he? I think he said it's not out of the question, but I don't think any type of soon.

Well, he wasn't at the thing the other night, but they had a talk off. What do they call it? The debate. There you go. Sort of. You would think he would have popped up, you know? They let him talk for a few seconds, and ding, ding, ding, ding. You have to stop.

Yeah. Yeah. I go for him. I'd go for him. Diatri. Over the other two guys. Well, you could bet Pop. You could bet Pot would be legalized, that's for sure.

There you go. Give me and Matthew McCona. Right. All right. That's the news. Okay. All right. Time for the trailer park.

Yep. All right. Let's take a little trip. Brian's going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the, What's the first one tonight, man? First one is the TV adaptation of the hit video game, The Last of Us. This is going to be on HBO.

This stars Pedro Pascal, aka The Mandalorian, aka Oberyn Martel, the guy that shouldn't have fucked with the mountain. Right. Oh, yeah. Got his eyes popped out. Also starring Bella Ramsey. also known from Game of Thrones as Lady Moramont. Ah, okay. She was a badass all the way to the end.

Yeah, she really was. And she was like 12. Right. Also stars Gabriel Luna, who was the new Terminator in the last movie and Ghost Rider. Okay. And Nick Offerman. I thought that was him. They had to throw him in there.

Always awesome. Yeah. Sounds like Philip's son would love this one. I was going to ask, you probably game more than we do. Have you played The Last of Us? I have not played it.

Okay. But the trailer looks pretty fucking good. Man, I'll totally watch that. Yeah, that's good. I've never played the game, but from what I understand, this season's going to cover most of the first game, because I know

there's two games out right now. Okay. So definitely Looks like a different take on the zombie apocalypse I like Pedro Pascal I like Bella Ramsey And Yeah I'm interested

And yeah HBO don't really hold back So It's a hell of a cast for a zombie show Mm-hmm Do you think this This could be the next Walking Dead? God God forbid, huh?

You know what? I'm okay with that Yeah, let's bring back zombies and maybe do it right again. Yeah, I'm good for a season or two. I don't know if I'm ready for it to be. The last of a season 27. Oh, yeah, no, don't do that. Yeah, this time we really, really, really mean the last.

Well, wasn't an HBO ever had anything that lasted more than 10 seasons. Well, if we're still watching the show on Bella Ramsey's like in her late 20s, then the show's been on too long. Yeah. this one is due on HBO or HBO Max no set release date but 2003 so I'm thinking since we got to trailer now probably January

February okay that'd be cool yeah it gives us something to watch in that time frame when there's nothing else yeah yeah that's you're right that's usually kind of a downtime right yeah a few episodes ago we checked out kind of like a behind-the-scenes video,

but they finally released a official trailer to Guillermo del Toro's Cabin of Curiosity's. Yes. I'm in. It looks creepy. It looks well-made. Yeah. I love the effects. Cass looks phenomenal. I like there's

different director for every episode. Guillermo del Toro wrote a bunch of these stories. There's even like comedic actors in here that look like they're not playing comedic roles. And I love seeing that because I saw Eric Andre. Yeah.

And Martin Star and a couple of other people. I'm like, they're just the scenes that showed them look like they're not playing comedic roles. Yeah. May give Eric Andre a little legitimacy. So people aren't like afraid to hire him. I mean, we can hire him, but he's going to come up on the set. She can't stand him every time it pops up on TV. I fucking love that.

I do, too. He always makes me laugh. He's ridiculous. Yeah, ridiculousness indeed. You guys got anything to say about the trailer? Fuck yeah, man. I'm in. It looks like that old school

Rod, Rod. I was trying to think of the guy's name. Rod Serling stuff, like Twilight Zone and Night Gallery and all that stuff. So, yeah, I'm totally in. Yeah, and it's got a very Guillermo Datoro look to it. it, I think.

Yep. You know, with the effects and stuff. Whoever cut the trailer did a goddamn good job, because you could tell it was from the different movies, but somehow the scenes look like, like there'd be somebody punching somebody and then somebody falling back from a totally different movie and stuff like that.

So very well edited. I like they showed him kind of like introducing to let you know he's really a part of this project, not just throwing his name on there. And not James Wanning. James Juan. Well, before James Juan did it, Guillermo D'Otoa did.

True. True. Gierma was the king of attaching his name to many things. Oh, he did Guillermo, a lot of things, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he was James Juan in it before James Juan, but James Juan definitely has that crown of putting his name on as producer. Yeah.

On a movie that's trash. All right. We will be able to watch Cabinet of Curiosity's. this month, October 25th. Okay. Right in time for Halloween. And we all shall be. And our final trailer

is a movie coming from MGM and that's Bones and All. Synopsis doesn't really tell you much but I'll read you one anyways. Marine, a young woman learns how to survive on the margins of society.

What? The stars Timothy Shalameh. Shalemot. Yes. Taylor. Of House Atreides. Yeah, he's Paul Atreides. So that guy.

Yeah. Taylor Russell, Michael Storbarg, Mark Rye Lanson, Chloe Savini. I didn't see her in the trailer, but she's in here. Great cast. This is directed by your boy, Lance.

Luca got to... No shit! Got to pronounce this name. Yeah, exactly. Okay, well, fucking A. You know, I'm doing. Yes, yes. I was really worried, though, that, oh, he works with Chalomey a lot.

He's been in a couple of his movies. But I was worried. It looked really Y.A. at first, right? Where they're in the water and jumping off the cliffs. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Here goes the kid's Hallmark Channel movie. And it looks pretty fucking good. I think I read this is a cannibal movie.

Really? No. And it's going to be rated R for extreme violence and lore. Wow. Because there's scenes of Timothy Chalotry, Pallotrady, whatever his name is. Yes.

There's scenes of him where his mouth is just covered in blood, so I don't know. I saw, oh my God. It's surviving on learning how to survive is learning how to feed on people. I don't know. I don't know what world is set in

or just eating people, but I was kind of there with you, Lance. It did kind of seem kind of Y-A-ish until some of the violence scenes started picking up. Sure, sure. I was like, this looks like it might be pretty good and it looks well made, so I'll give it that. I looked a little more art house than young adult. But yeah, you guys think Timothy Chalemay is going to be like something big or is he just like a flavor of

the week? No, I think he's going to be something big. I'll wait, I'll hold my judgment because he's doing the Willie Wonka movie. Oh, that's right. If he can pull off. If he can pull that off. Yeah, Willie. Because he's, yeah, it's a prequel. Right. So. And it's going to, I heard it's going to kind of be more not, not as kidish.

Yeah. Oh, God. The original was fucking terrifying, man. Yeah. It kind of is. But I know he's got, uh, they're filming the set part two of Dune. So he's got that. I think he's a good actor from what I've seen. Oh, for sure.

Yeah. And I mean, if he keeps up with it, he'll be big. But, you know, we've seen a lot of kind of fall off. Staying busy. Luca directing, I wasn't a big fan of Susperia, the remake, but it looked amazing as far as, you know, the director's side. So, you know, we'll see. I bet it'll be good. November 23rd this year.

All right. And the fact that he can survive off of doing those weird fucking movies like that. Yes, I know, man. The totally off the rails, you know, not mainstream shit. Like you don't see him in Marvel movies. He's doing all these art house junk. Although, you know, June. Yeah, Dune became a much bigger hit than they knew if it was going to be or not, right?

Yeah, that's true. I had faith in Dune. dude. Yeah. I'm just I'm the fan of the material so. Yeah. You love the original movie, right? Still do. Okay. But just that new one was just amazing to me. I

really wish I'd seen that new one in the theater, which I'm hoping. Oh, dude, Brian. I just have this thing. If I'm already paying for a streaming thing, I don't want to go and pay for it. But hopefully next year when they released the part two, they re-released

the first one in theaters. and I'm definitely going to see it. Yeah, they need to do that for sure. And I mean, you know, as long as you've got a good set up in your house, not a whole lot different. As long as you can pay attention to it without getting up. I got the big screen with the surround sound. Right.

Sometimes I'm just kind of like, I'm already paying for HBO Max or whatever the thing is coming on. So I'll just stay. The only thing that I will go out to see is the new Marvel movie, because me and my family, we've seen almost every MCU movie into theater. Yeah, but then you can take the whole family to it. Yeah.

That makes sense. That makes sense. Which might have made Thor Love and Thunder better than it actually really was. Uh-oh. I re-watched it. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it,

but it didn't hit the same on the video. Yeah. Yeah. After sitting on it for a few weeks, I'm like, eh, I'm sorry. The balance of comedy,

it kind of was a little too much comedy. Right. I have a friend who was upset. I'm probably scared of the ghosts outside. Probably so.

We already lost one cat this week, so. Did you? We don't, yeah, we did. Yeah.

Poor Enzo disappeared somewhere. Oh, no. We don't know where. Yeah. It might have been the one I found in my

house the other day and we don't own a cat well could be man I'll tell you what if that cat made it from fucking Houston Texas to Anchorage Alaska that's what that's what tough cat hey I'd watch that movie homeward bound love that movie

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Wednesday. That's a good idea for a show. I like it. Yeah, I've had a chance to listen to a bunch of episodes. It's basically, Phil, it's like the movies that you grew up with, they're re-watching them and kind of doing like two ratings. Yeah. What would your rating

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Having Cabot of Curiosities and Wednesday premiere in like right around Halloween I think that would have been awesome Yeah for sure

Regarding our killer Lion show Zishon 89 says Ghost in the Darkness is still much better Yes it is Yeah But you know

There's room for two Lion movies If it was a whole genre I'd get old real quick, but... It probably is a whole genre. We probably just didn't really look.

I know. And they're probably all on 2B. Lionato. Look, I apologize to all the listeners who gave feedback in that last segment. I had to run and get an extension cord. This fucking Surface

Pro doesn't hold a charge like it used to. I got this thing about six months before we started this podcast, so it's telling you how old we're getting together, right? by design now you got to buy a new one regarding the reef

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RZA is did Rizas Rizza always listens to our show but I think this is Rizgar Amini We'll go with that. I mean. Sure.

All right. All right. I'll take that. I like Rigar better. We'll go with that. The most ridiculous movie that could be made in the history of world cinema, damn you, damn you. Hey, all right. A kindred spirit.

I wonder, Riger, I wonder how you feel about the original one because I actually thought the sequel was better than the original one. And now we hate you. Yikes. especially for mispronouncing his name you assort. Regarding Kujo, Angie Scott says the movie made me scared of dogs as a kid. I actually got bit by St. Bernard when I was a kid. A St. Bernard, really?

Yeah. I was, it was right when I was old enough to start going places by myself. And I took it upon myself to try to cut through a neighbor's yard. and it jumped in over their fence and your Cujo Coojo actually came out of nowhere or chased me

and I try as soon as I hopped up the fence like grab bit me like in my calf oh my goodness and we have broken plants I'm sorry Brian that's a very unfortunate story man

yeah maybe don't jump in the backyard of it oh man it never it never I never I took the right way every time after that I had a German shepherd chased me down

while I was on a bicycle a long time and it was fucking terrifying I was like 11 you pedal like the wind dude I've never gone faster you were running to beat the devil that dog was right on the tire

the whole time and eventually he finally back up wow wow that's a horror horror movie right there Brian Now if I saw it today I'd probably get along great with him. I'm a dog person

Regarding the upcoming remake of magic by Sam Ramey. Colt of Aaron says Oh my God, oh my God, love Ramey and love this movie. Yeah, totally underrated movie. I don't think many of people know about that one. The Black

Saint loved it. Yeah. Yeah, rest of peace. I know when I post of this. It looked like a lot of people are, you know, people are usually down on remakes, but a lot of people were for this. Yeah. Sam Ramey and a remake of a movie that you've probably never fucking heard of? Yeah.

See, those are the remakes that, I'm okay, remake anything, but the ones that should be done are these lesser known. Oh, Poulter guys. Yeah, like, don't we make that one. It was terrible. They did remake Poulter guys. It was fucking horrible. They had fucking Sam Rockwell in it.

I was going to say, did they have Sam Rockwell in it? Oh, my God. We need to review that so I can point out all the parts that pissed me off. Well, you write the schedule, Brian, so Jesus, dude. Go for it. My oldest daughter told me to go watch it. When I came out of there, I demanded her to refund me my money. Because I was so angry.

From a Sam Rockwell movie, that sucks, man. I love that guy. Oh, man, what are the chances? He may be my favorite actor. There seems of him just staring at nothing. Yeah. It's like they're just trying to fill up the runtime. Sure.

I mean, he could have at least danced or something like he usually does. But, I mean, an Anthony Hopkins fucking movie that nobody's ever really heard of. Right. That's a good one to remake. Sure. Anthony Hopkins as the dummy. As the dummy. He can be the voice of the dummy.

And nobody would understand. Nobody would question why he has a British accent. Brian just figured out the casting, Philip. Yeah. No, I love that idea. No, I guarantee you. It's written in the stars, Brian. And he can ham it up as much as he.

Remember when he handed up in that? Transformers movie. Oh, hell yeah. He can ham it up in this one. I forgot he was in that, yeah. Oh, boy. Was he ever? Let's see.

Marcus Will Turner posted a Michael Myers' music video. Oh, yeah. Myers hit some fresh bars before that Halloween beat drops. Oh, man. Fucking Michael Myers dancing. Oh, boy. There's a whole world out there, boys and girls. YouTube, TikTok, et cetera, right?

Dude, the rap battles that they used to have? Oh, the epic rap battles? Do they still do that? Yeah, epic rap battles. Do they still do? I think they do. I love that stuff. Yeah, I did too.

Watsky was a big one on there. Uh-huh. He's a lot like him. C.J. Ducote posted a trailer for 1980s funeral home. I'm not heard of that one. Remake that one. Yeah.

Shout out to CJ. I noticed he posts a lot of, like, trailers and stuff of, like, you know, older movies. Right. I'm assuming he's posting him to recommend we watch him or something. Good idea. Well, maybe we should take his advisement on a few, huh? Yeah. Or her advisement, right?

I think it's a man. Okay. Did we do funeral at home? I do. I have to check the list. Doesn't sound familiar. Okay. I still have that problem when I do the schedule.

I have to check to see if we've already done it. Yeah. And I'm putting everything back up for the second time. I should be writing them down. You would think I'd be writing them down as I go, huh? I mean, you got to think about it. We're at episode what, 332. Holy shit.

On average. How did that happen? Two movies on average, sometimes more. Yes, sometimes more. So we've done close to seven movies. Nice. No overhead. That's how it happened.

But when you put it that way. And some of them I can't remember us doing. That's not a good, yeah. We definitely have not done funeral home. We did do Let's Scare Jessica to Death. Remember that one? I remember us doing it, but I don't remember the movie. There's a lot of movies where I'm like, have I watched this before?

Yeah. I don't have the greatest memory. None of us do, Philip. none of us do. Used to. What are you going to do? Alcohol has killed all those brains. Jesus Christ.

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Just kind of get the word that the new episode's out there. Very nice. Yeah. And invite him to the group. That's that fucking part, man. That horror returns group is pretty awesome. On to our featured attractions. This week, we check out the brand new

smile as well as 2012's Smiley. You've forgotten about that movie, but we'll talk about it again. Uh, matter of fact, we're going to start with it. 2012 smiley. Um, after discovering an urban legend of a demented serial killer who has nothing but a carved smiley on his face, a mentally fragile teenager must, uh, figure out if she's going insane or if she could be the next victim.

Mentally fragile. Okay. She was like in her college. Oh no. One of those, huh? Yeah. Uh, she was a freshman at college, I think. Okay.

She looked like a senior. yeah probably all right hold on before you get into trivia okay before you get into trivia guys i'm so sorry but you two are going to have to review this one because i couldn't fucking find it no no no no no no no no no sent me a link right okay because i you know i've i've followed some of the links before then i had a fucking porno site come up that that would not i could not get it off my iPhone i think he sent you a wrong thing That had nothing to do with the movie. Oh, my God.

But I've heard so much about this movie, I can't wait to hear you guys talk about it. I heard it's an all-time great. Yeah, it might be. Director is Michael J. Gallagher, also known for the thinning. Oh, the thinning. The thinning. I don't know what that is. The thinning.

The shrubbery. I was like, thinner? No, not wrong on it. Yeah. With Glasgow Phillips and Ezra Cooperstein. Those sound like made-up names. They do, don't they? Kind of, yeah.

Like, we didn't want anybody to know we wrote this movie, so call me Glasgow Phillips and Ezra Cooperstein. Shane Dawson, Vinder, Bender? Sure. Is a famous YouTuber. He has three YouTube channels, and on his channel, Shane Dawson, Tee. He makes music videos and comedy skits.

As of 2016 in January, he has 7.2 million subscribers on that channel. I feel bad that we promoted that. Alas, this movie, on the other hand, has sold only 30,000 copies. Smiley! Brian, what did you think about it? I didn't like it. No. And I kind of said last week that we probably weren't going to like it.

It's definitely an independent, low-budget movie. That's not why I hated it. They used a lot of YouTube actors, or YouTube people as actors in it. That's not why I hated it. If you're going to do a slasher movie, have some fucking creative kills in there. Yeah. or you know a slasher yeah this is just a typical stabby stabby I'll slice your throat or stab you in the back mostly it was off camera shit and that pissed me off

stop doing the off camera shit this is not a this is an independent movie you can do what you want you don't have to answer to any like big production companies or Disney or universal you don't get universal bad but I think that's my biggest complaint about it is the story was generic. If you want to watch a movie about Urban Legend, go watch Urban Legend. Yeah. Go watch that one. That one's way more entertaining.

This is like the watered down safe version of that. Or any of the other 50 movies that are just like this one, but better. I will say the look of the mask was cool. Yeah. I hated the fact that they even had a mask. What was the point, huh? Yeah. Like, if you're gonna have it...

The ending? The actual... Well, no, well, like the actual smiley thing with the skin tone and... Are you talking about when they put, like, the ripped panty hose over it to make it look like... That was stupid. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. I thought it was just a fucking mask.

And I was like... No, when they first... Why didn't even bring up the fact that he, like, sewed his eyes shut or whatever? When it was... When it was just the flesh-looking part, that it looked like a face, that looked kind of cool. Yeah, I was okay with that. But then later when he was like breaking into people's houses or not breaking in, because he would just appear. Yeah.

He had like a fucking, like, ripped panty hose pulled over his face. And I'm like, you're supposed to be a fucking urban legend. Why are you covering your face? You're not a burglar. It's fucking dumb. well I don't want to get caught got with bandios on his head and then after

after a while you can kind of see the twist happening at the end especially when they all all came in together I'm like oh you guys are just fucking pulling some and not even a fucking prank

I guess there's some kind of murder cult club or something yeah but like from the very beginning it was like I didn't know that that was going to happen, but I was like, all right, I don't trust any of these mother-inters. And to characters, I wanted everybody to die. They were so annoying, especially all the guys in it,

when she got introduced to all the guys at that party, the minute everybody said something, I was going to want you to die, I want you to die. The guy with the glasses I wanted to die immediately. Yeah. And, of course, kind of all part of it. I was kind of bummed. The only YouTuber I knew was the first girl that got killed in the very beginning,

Nick, Nikki Limo, which they had to do the close-up ass shot as she was walking to the camera. Of course, Jesus Christ. I wasn't mad at that. But then you take her out the movie. You take her out the movie for the rest of the... Yeah. Until the end. Nice.

Yeah. The Shane Dawson guy, I've heard his name, but honestly. for someone that has over 7 million subscribers I can't tell you if I've ever seen a video of his. No, I don't think I know any of these people. I think he was the

one with the Justin Bieber hair. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Oh, with the fucking horse face. Oh, God, that guy. Yes, I've seen him. Horse face. The horse face. I was wondering why they put that kid in like a little roll. I was like, really?

So, like, I said, like I said, if they would have kind of done something a little bit more interesting with the story and gave us some interesting kills, this might have been a passable slasher movie, but if it's going to be a slasher movie, at least give me some kills. If you're just going to do regular stabby-stabby,

sure. Let it, make it be violent. Yeah. It wasn't. No. Some of the scenes, I don't even think the, they filmed anybody with the knife because it was just somebody walking up behind

somebody and the actor going like, oh, and they were dead. Yeah. They'd reach around and like give them a reach around. Yeah. That would have been more interesting. But you couldn't really see anything. It was just the actor that was watching

because all the second kids happened through the screen. Ouch. And Lance, they're watching it on like some chat thing. Right. So you're just what you're seeing on, what you're seeing, like, me on the screen right now. That's how big you can see. Yeah. I can't believe that this wasn't, like, easily available on YouTube, full movie.

I can't see why it's not easily available. Because it's not good. Yeah. It's, it was really bad. This has to be probably the worst slasher I've seen since doing this show. How does it compare to, what was it, for, Jenner? or whatever. No,

to Jennifer. Two Jennifer is the worst movie I've ever seen on this show. This is the worst slasher. Yeah. Okay. So they're probably getting,

could they both be on the Mount Rushmore? Right now, yeah, the, they're occupying spaces right now. 700-something movies in. Right up there

with Kevin Bacon. I'd rather watch the darkness. No. Oh, yeah. No, I totally would. The darkness is a way better movie. Oh,

At least the darkness is better made, has better actors, and at least had a story. I am feeling like such an asshole right now. Well, they've got a couple of actors in here that you'll have seen before. Keith David, not David Keith. Yeah, Keith David is in there. He spent a whole day shooting this movie. But, yeah, they all have like five-minute roles, and that's it. Oh, and that one guy.

You didn't watch it last week. You didn't watch your last week, Lance, but Phil, the one guy, the gay guy from... Yeah, he was in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't do anything either. He probably was there for one day of filming. Him and Keith David, not David Keith. And he ended up being, like, creepy for no reason.

Yeah, that's got to nowhere. Yeah. I don't understand it. Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah, y'ai. I mean, I guess it was to throw us off to make us think that he was the killer. And I'm like, it's obviously not going to be him. Right.

Right. Well, and not only was it obviously not him, but it's like they went out of his, went out of the way to make him the like creepy professor or something. And it just, it wasn't, it wasn't, what is the point? Does he have something to do with this? The creepy professor. Is he any relation to the. Nutty Professor. No, they tried to

not only make you think he's the killer by the way he was talking about things, but they also tried to make it seem like he threw that line in there when the main actress was talking to him. He's like, are you hitting on me? Yeah. I'm like, oh, why are you? Okay, why?

Why? Yeah. Although he definitely had the best monologue of the movie, even though it was totally out of place and didn't make any sense. Yeah, at the end. Yeah. But, yeah, I think I think I've said enough. I probably said too much.

So like an REM song there for a minute. This was my favorite one. Yeah, this was a bad movie. It's just like they try. Where's fine? What was that? I'll watch Bye Bye Man over this one. Oh, no.

Buy By Man was a better made movie compared to this one. Oh, no. Even with a little coin and everything. Yeah. Yep. Even though they didn't explain the coin or the weird, creepy dog that was with the Bi-Bar Man, it was more entertaining than this movie. Yeah.

That Slender Man movie, I thought, was probably better than this one. Because at least I got a good nap. Yeah. but yeah no it was just it was it was it was super like the moments that were they weren't killing which was most of them it was really fucking cheesy and then the kills were all the exact same and through a little screen and you didn't like if you're trying to make this guy the next big character or whatever, right? The next Michael Myers.

Yeah, like, come up with some good kills or something. Let me read the poster, because they had big ambitions with this fucking character. Oh, shit. Let me see if I can pull it up. On the poster, the main poster says the new face of fear. Yeah. Don't put that on your poster if you're not going to deliver. Well, and it sounded like they really were trying to make it like the next big scary movie thing or something.

And like they didn't even fucking try, man. Like the smiley thing was kind of cool, I guess. Like when they had the flesh face with the stitches and all that. But when they just did the, most of the kills were just guys in masks. Like, what are you doing? Like, scream mixed with Friday the 13th. But bad on both accounts. Yeah, Lance, just imagine you watch scream.

And every time someone got stabbed, you didn't see it happened. Oh, no. What's the point? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's kind of what I felt like. It was bad. And also imagine the ghost face mask.

You're already wearing a mask. Right. To put another mask over that mask. There are some use pantios. Yeah. Like you're about to rob a bank or something. Take my strong hand. Ay, aye, aye.

It makes no sense. I might actually have to go watch this now. If I can find it. Potato shaped, fleshy face with the eyes sewn shut and a smile carved. That's pretty cool. Okay. But then for some reason, you put panty hose over that face. You got a hide your identity, man.

It was that guy. Oh, no, that guy. No, maybe it was that guy. But it had tears in it. It had rips in it. He'll blend right in. Yeah. But that's all I have to say about that.

Smiling. Yeah. I say, sir. Yeah. I chose wrongly this time. But in my defense, I pre-warned everybody that I think this was going to be a bad movie. Did you? Well, you saw the handwriting on the wall, huh?

Yeah, and after watching the next movie we're going to talk about, I could have paired it with something else, but I didn't really know what we were getting into with the next movie. I'll point it out when we talk about it with the next movie. But, yeah, smiley. No. Don't bother. Good pairing, bad movie.

It's not your fault. It just never should have got made. Yeah. Somebody's fault, not yours. Well, and I'm sure they reap the consequences of that shit. Well, they have like 30,000 copies sold. Yeah, all to the YouTube guy's mother. Yeah.

I imagine they lost money on that sucker. He's got 7 million subscribers. He's not. He's not hurting. Oh, no, I'm sure the actors did fine. It was the production people that made the movie that, like, put their money on the line. Ticket, sticke a bath. Yeah.

I don't. Switch get. Yeah, they definitely didn't recoup the money for this movie. Can you imagine how dumb I would have felt if I had found it for purchase, Brian? Hey, just, that's what you want to spend your money on. Every time they get like a $399 rental, they're like, yes, Brian, much closer. We're going to break even. Yes.

7,000 more rentals to go, right? Yeah. Don't go watch this movie. It sucks. It's not good. Scores, Brian. Nikki Limo was hot in the beginning. Oh, yeah.

For like five minutes. and before he put the panty hose on, the smiley face was kind of cool looking with the stitches and the carved out smile. So just on that, I would have to give it to. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I would give a two just for Nikki Limo too.

Yeah. They got a real close-up ass shot there that's... Oh, wow. Because, you know, when somebody walks to their computer, you have to have the camera that close to their ass. It was like just her ass and the whole screen. Sure, sure. Why not?

And she's wearing shorts where it's hanging out anyway. Oh, and another thing that just went nowhere, they made it seem, because she was babysitting for somebody, they made it seem like the girl's dad wanted to fuck her. Yeah. Oh, God. Don't say that. And then it just cuts to her being back at home.

And I was like, and they, okay, why was that in there? This direction. Hmm. They had a whole lot of misdirection that didn't make sense. And then they never, like, they forgot to get back to that story. Knives out. Knives out, it wasn't, huh? No.

Okay. But, you know, and I actually, I didn't hate the twist at the end, even though it kind of, they kind of telegraphed the shit out of it. But it was okay. Like the end of it I was like alright well That almost saved this from being the worst movie I've ever fucking seen But yeah I'm gonna go You know what I'll I'll go three I've seen worse

Wow holy shit Yeah Christmas came early for the Smiley movie Because that's super generous Yeah it really is It was not a good movie movie. And not like in a, because I'll give a score to like a movie that's so bad that it's good. I'll give it the score that I think it deserves for being hilarious. Yeah. This doesn't fall in that category. And like I said before, being low budget or independent or whatever you want to call it, that has nothing to do with it that you can obviously tell they could have tried more in a lot of areas in this movie.

yeah well and I mean I don't think the acting was necessarily terrible no it wasn't it wasn't particularly good you know what I agree Phil I agree with you for them for most of everybody being YouTube stars and having really no acting experience they weren't really that bad you're giving it a three too I'll raise it to a three man that's going to be on the next on the box on the DVD

it should be it almost looked like it was really going for that high budget movie and it just fell a little flat yeah it fell a lot flat yeah they they but you know they at least grab for the bar they just missed it completely they just had a little

they just had a little bit more funding you could have had Keith David not David Keith Oh, boy. Working the case throughout the movie. Oh, God. Hoping in at the end, and telling the girl, like, oh, smile-faced killer did it?

I don't believe you. Yeah. That's really all his role was. Yeah, if they had to pay the big name actors that they had in this movie to be there for more than 10 minutes at a time. Sure. then it would have been a difference. Maybe he was doing somebody a favor.

Who knows? Well, him and then the gay dude from Stefford Wives. Yeah, but he's not like a big name star. Well, I know, but he's a lot of movies. Yeah, he's a guy where you're like, oh, I know that guy. And then the psychiatrist lady has been in some stuff before. I've seen her before. Not that she's necessarily good in those things.

I don't know. Right, right. I can't think of who she is. But, like, when I saw her, she came on the screen and bothered me immediately. I don't know. So maybe that was not a good example. Yeah. I can't call him the gay guy because he wasn't even the gay guy in this movie.

Yeah. Well, but he was a separate wife. Roger Bart. Brian, you're going to get us to trouble. Hey, I'm correcting the situation. So whoever's getting upset, calm down. he's known for movies like the producer American gangster

Oh okay Boom Damn lots of big big name movies As far as horror movies I know him from a hostile too He was the guy that got his dick cut off At the end

Spoiler And if that dude's not gay I would be very surprised He's a damn good actor He's a mighty good actor Yeah But I like him I've seen him in a lot of stuff

Right All right So in that aren't a weird note Smiley I hope Nass pops in I'm praying to the gods Nes will pop in and say this movie's a 10 Right

He's got a copy on his fucking shelf Already He's Nes He knows fucking everybody He was one of the 30,000 Yeah Oh easily He bought all of them

Yeah Nes knows everybody He's rocked out with seven or eight heavy metal bands that I know about. Oh, he's going to be rocking around with a whole festival, isn't he, in a couple days? Yeah, hell yeah, man. They got like kiss showing up. Yeah, I don't blame him for, you know, putting us to the side to be there, you know. What would you do?

And slip knot. Right. I want to say real quick, I just seen him doing an interview, Gene Simmons. Right? Yeah. That guy knows how to sell. He really does. Oh, yeah, it's a Texas hammer.

remember in that one movie that guy is selling air guitar strings in a pack a pack of air guitar strings officially licensed kiss and of course when you look at the package it's just an empty package of course i care yeah that that oh my god surprise me at all and i bet you a ton of people buy them he said i think he said for four hundred dollars right you get the official kiss air guitar. It comes in a case and when you open up the case there's nothing in it. I thought the one chip challenge was a rip-off.

But it's signed. Yes. You just, you can't see it because it's... Oh, man. All right. Let's move on to 2022. Smile. After witnessing a bizarre traumatic incident involving a patient, Dr. Rose Cotter

starts experiencing, frightening occurrences that she can't explain. Rose must confront her troubling past in order to survive and escape her horrifying new reality. Director and writer are Parker Finn, also known for the short film. Laura hasn't slept. Which this is based off of. Oh, okay. Interesting. Okay.

To promote the film ahead of the release, producers began placing random people in different public settings sporting the movie's unsettling grin, including behind home plate at several Major League Baseball games. That was fantastic. Did you see it? That was a good idea. No, I didn't. That's pretty smart.

Pretty smart marketing. And even during a broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America. That's kind of genius. That is crazy. Paramount originally made this film as a streaming film, and planned to only premiere the film on Paramount Plus, but the film was screened for the test screening audience, and the scores were even higher than anticipated,

prompting Paramount to give the film a theatrical release in the United States. Oh, okay. Number one in the box office right now. Oh, shit. Okay. Not a lot out. All right. Well, Lance, let's start with you. You watch this one, huh?

I did, yeah. I saw this in the theater. Yeah, Lance, let's start with you on this one. Well, Brian, I told you I thought this movie was going to be horrible, remember? Yeah. And then you said, I don't know. They're advertising it at baseball games and shit like that. And, you know, it's getting some early talk and buzz and whatnot.

So I went in fully expecting to be like totally disappointed with it, right? This was that fucking hell of good movie, man. I got to tell you, it was a little long in the tooth. It probably could have been 20, 25 minutes shorter. But God damn, dude. They did not hide on the... You guys were talking about a solar opposite of fucking smiling with all the kills were offscreen. They didn't leave anything to the imagination in this one.

These were some brilliant, brutal kills. Some really good special effects. And now, is this the one that... This is Kevin Bacon's daughter? Yeah, she's the lead. I had no idea. She can act, man. She can really act.

Yeah, she had me convinced. This movie gave me the creeps. I really did not think I was going to enjoy it as much as I did. It was just, there were parts that were kind of like a story within a story, within a story, and what's real and what's not real. It does borrow a whole lot from another movie, of course, which I'm sure. A couple movies. I'm assuming the director is a big fan of.

I would imagine so, and I'm not mad at that. I mean, the next generation, they're going to make movies based on what they love and stuff like that. There was a lot of really good, I thought, iconic scenes in this movie. The smile was very unsettling. The first, well, actually, everyone that you saw smiled a little bit differently. Yeah, and not to cut you off, this version of it was unsettling. what they did in truth or dare was just fucking goofy. Right, that's what I would see.

That's why I thought this is going to be a piece of shit. Because I must have been thinking of truth or dare, I guess. But guys, color me impressed. I enjoyed every minute of it. Yes, it could have been a little bit shorter, but it was a fun movie. The dream within a dream type stuff without going too far into seeing any spoilers or anything like that.

But they did some pretty cool stuff. that I thought was very original. Not just the main actress, but I thought everybody that was in this movie did their part. Nobody really, you know, there weren't any real bad actors in the movie for a first time director. Not bad.

I'm impressed. I'm super impressed. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I went into this movie a little bit more optimistic than Lance, and I think this exceeded my expectations. This movie was great. I thought the tone was right. The, yeah, Lance, what was his name? Parker Finn for this being his first movie. Oh, he's going places. I would have thought looking up on IMDB, I would have seen a whole bunch of other shit that he's done, not a short film. And then this, he's definitely got an eye. I thought it looked great with the camera shots. He's definitely. Super well filmed.

Great camera shows. He's definitely a fan of M. Knight Shaman with some of the camera angles. You know what? I think he's also a fan of Midsomar with some of the cameras. Oh, with the 360 upside down? Absolutely. Yeah. That's the first thing I thought of.

Yeah, they homage to so many great films. You got to do something different, you know? You got to do something different. Yeah. I thought everybody was good in it. I think her name is, if I'm saying, her associate. Socey Bacon is the lead actress. She was fucking great.

I've never even put two and two together. No, me neither. One degree. She put in such a fucking great physical performance. Right. With the stuff she was going through in this movie. She was phenomenal. Phenomenal.

And I just like the gradual change in not only the way she was acting, but her appearance throughout the movie. What's his name played an asshole again? He plays such a big. fucking A-Train. Okay. That's right. A-Train. That's who that was. I'm like, who is this guy?

He's been in a couple things now. Okay, A-Train, that's the part I was. I was trying to think the role, and I didn't want to be that dick that opened up IMDB in the movie theater and looked at it. So I'm like, I'll just go with it. And that was A-Train. I thought this movie brought the right level of creepiness. Another thing that really, I'm glad I watched this in a movie theater,

was the score, the sounds and stuff that was going on. Fantastic. Even when... Because one minute the music was kind of on, you know, it was kind of creepy, and then it would turn kind of disorienting. Yes. It kind of made me feel like I was there with her as she's just kind of just losing it, kind of.

Even with the title screen, when Smile came up, the sounds as it was flashing was kind of, If you got epilepsy, you can't watch the title screen. I thought it was going to be an 824 film with that title card. Yeah. Sorry. I'm excited, man. I wasn't expecting this. Definitely, I'll bring it up in spoilers, but I said the director definitely was a fan of some other horror films, which is not anything wrong.

I thought it was great that he just kind of took those kind of elements and put him in this movie and did a twist. and yeah I took my daughter and she we just we had a fucking blast watching this movie yeah

she wasn't she didn't cringe at any of the the violence no she's I guess it's my fault maybe she's desensitized

the horror movies but she said she said it wasn't scary it was definitely creepy okay I'll buy that I'll take creepy

over scary Well, and here's my My dad advice, you know That was, uh, Never mind, I lost my fucking train of thought Get off my lawn You were saying something earlier And then you started talking about your daughter

And it threw you Uh, no, I So I was, after watching Smiley, which was but she gave it a three, dude. Yeah, no way but up after that. No, dude, three for me is bad. To me, three's close to 50-50, man. No, no, no, no, no.

One and a half stars out of five, that's right. All right. But this one was immediately way better as soon as she started watching it. Right. You could tell the acting was a little more serious, and everything in this movie was just a little more serious. And, you know, like you said, you could see the kills. So that's a fucking plus.

And you feel like you're going through it with her instead of watching this stupid college girl do stupid college girl things. so yeah I did not watch it in the theater and I kind of wish that I had yeah you should have man yeah I know and I

I really should have gone to see this movie because it looked like he's going to I just didn't get the chance to yeah what really just added to the theater experience like I said was just the score it wasn't necessarily music it was just certain sounds they're playing and they would kind of ramp up

and like in the theater like you kind of just you're like, whoa, you know, because I did, I forgot which part it was, I did legit kind of,

is that in the theater or is that in the movie? The sound I keep hearing. And I'm looking at the screen and it's like getting loud. I was like, okay, it's the movie. I'm not losing it. Sometimes you get sounds from like,

you know, the theater next to it. Yeah, that does happen sometimes. That was a cool one. But no, I thought this was obviously way, way, way better than Smiley. And I don't know that it's going to stick with me in the top 10. I think it's one of those movies that might get forgotten.

But I may have to give it another shot. Yeah. There's a lot of these movies I'm going to have to watch again. year. Yeah. A lot. It's going to be a tough year. This is really going to be a tough year.

You know, and it seems like pretty basic horror movie stuff. Right. But I think they go a little deeper than that in this. It could have a day 24. It's like a journey, right? Yeah. And you're with her on the entire journey. Yeah.

And you feel it's, I don't know how to describe it. It's like you feel it. Yeah. You feel it emotionally. Like when things happen, you feel it physically. like in the back of your skull and it's just very well-made movie, man. I just can't believe this was the guy's first film.

Yeah, well, I mean, definitely. Yeah, it was worth going to watch in the theater and I kind of wish I had. And yeah, I think it was a good movie. Better than I thought it was going to be. Better than it had any right to be, right? I thought for sure this movie's going to suck. I thought it was going to be another one of those,

just plain Jane, you know, horror, slasher things that's cheesy as fuck and it's it wasn't that yeah so yeah check out smiley scores before we get into spoilers oh boy yeah man it's how how are we going to pull the rabbit out of the hat this year with all these great films that they've been putting back i i wouldn't necessarily say this one's great but it's it's top 10 flirting material for sure it's uh good good good solid eight and I was expecting to go into like a three or maybe a four. Dude, an eight is a badass score for you. It's the more Brian talks about the soundtrack.

It's just really, you got to go to the theater, Philip, before this thing is gone. And that's the worst part about, you know, sailing the seas. I know. The fucking audio sounds not always the best. And yeah, see, that's the other thing, though. I mean, I'm over here saying, oh, go to the theater, but I didn't even bother to watch the first movie tonight or last week. Sorry. Well, you got to link to porn hub, so.

All right. You can skip Smiley. It's not good. He saw something else, smile. I just kept watching. I thought it was the movie. Right? Right.

Brian, what do you think? Right now, for me, based on the acting, the direction of the movie, the tone, the score. This is eight and a half right now Nice, nice And I'm Definitely interested This is Sosi, I think I hope I'm saying that right

Soci Bacon I looked her up The only thing I recognize that she's done Which I have not watched She was on that Netflix show 13 reasons why Okay Never seen it

But yeah Yeah so she's been acting This wasn't like Something new to her So With this performance, I'm definitely, like, when I see her name pop up in something, it's going to make me want to watch it. Yeah, same here. I carried the movie.

And I want to see where Parker Finn goes from here as far as directing. Parker Finn can't lose. Nobody's old enough to remember that. Parker Lewis? Okay. I'm going to go with, I can't give it more than a seven right now. Okay. But I reserve the right to change my mind when I see a copy of this movie.

Could be that big, makes that big of a difference. Yeah. Seen a good copy. From what you guys have said, because I don't think I was invested enough in this movie to really give a legitimate score. Like, I won't like to again. I'll bet it'll be on Paramount Plus before the end of the year. Oh, definitely. So, you can probably be for that.

Right now, it's making the money right now. It's getting good reviews. So I think it's going to hang out in the theaters and make as much money as it possible. Then it will definitely be on Paramount Plus. Yeah. Now, I mean, is it going to make my top 10? My top 10, probably not. But, you know, hopefully watching a decent copy of it will at least bring it close to it.

Can't hurt. That's for sure. Yeah. But, I mean, I didn't see anything that I hated in the movie. movie at all. I just wasn't paying enough attention to it to give it a real rating. Fair enough.

All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. This, Parker Finn was definitely a fan of

It follows Okay The ring Okay I was taking the ring The camera work at Midsamar The camera work of Am Night Shalam

Shaman Shama Dinkana Yep Yep And that's not a bad thing Because you know If I was to make a movie Definitely somebody would be like Oh you're a fan of such and such

And you're a fan of such and such And I would be able to argue that You know Yeah Well and M. Night Shyamalan gets a lot of a lot of shit, I think, because he's had some good, some bad,

but his good stuff is pretty fucking good. So, I mean, what are you going to do? Yeah. And I can't say enough about Soapekin's performance. Just like I said before, just that gradual descent into madness. Yeah, that was amazing.

There is a part, a point in the movie where I'm just kind of like, is this just, is she just crazy or is this really happening? Yeah, and then the job that she had and the story about the mother and then the twist on that. Yeah, the fact that she has, you know, mental illness in the family, the fact that when we get introduced to her character, her boss played by Cal Penn, he kind of basically says, you've been working 80-hour weeks and I can tell you I've been sleeping. And so it kind of puts it in your mind, like maybe this is not really happening. It's just kind of like how the, I thought it was going to, when we got that double ending. Yeah, of course. I thought it was going to be something else that she was going to wake up and it was going to be back at the very beginning.

Yeah, yeah. But the way it ended, I'm kind of glad it did. I am too. Now, the way it ended is the way I thought it was going to end, but then before that I thought it had ended and it didn't go that way. But as soon as that character showed up, I'm like, oh, so this is how it's going to end. Yeah, because there's so many moments where they kind of fake you out. Like the scene where she goes, she goes to the hospital.

And when she finds out to break the chain, if anybody hasn't seen it, they're already listening. Basically, she finds out it's a chain of suicides. And you have to kill yourself in front of somebody else. Trauma. It's a trauma. A trauma chain. or you can break the chain by murdering somebody with the witness and you pass it on to the witness and you can tell she's going to go kill the one guy that's all like you're going to die oh yeah yeah that was a good fake out yeah because when she starts stabbing him I'm just like you're really going for her but then all of a sudden the guy starts like laughing at her yeah he's smiling smile wow even like cow Penn her boss even his reaction is kind of I was like this is weird because he's kind of hamming it up.

And he's like, no. Right, right. But then he, like, tears his face off. And I'm like,

okay, we're in a dream right now. So. Yeah. Well, that was the moment. Yes, yes,

yes. And I don't want to go really too much into spoilers with this one. But I did this. I feel like there's some deeper shit here, too. Like, is this a depression thing?

Is it? It has to do with that. It has to do with suicide. It has to do with break. breaking the cycle. Yeah, because if you... Antidepressant medication. Yeah, could be.

Could be. You look at like Ari Aster's movie. He said Hereditary was about depression and mental illness. Right. Mitz-Mar was about relationships. And grief. And grief. So this could be like, you might be right, Phil.

This might be deeper meanings to a lot of this stuff. I know that little boy was fucked up. Well, and almost... Oh, no shit. With a smile bullshit. it, like it may be a medication thing more than a depression thing. Oh, wow. I think Philip just cracked the code, man.

That makes perfect sense. Again, I need to watch. No, that makes perfect. I like that, dude. Yeah. You just added another layer to it. Yeah, because that's how they make you feel on the antidepressant commercials. Like, want to feel yourself again?

It'll have somebody showing a smiley face, shit like that. Philip got it, Brian. I didn't catch that, but you're right. 100%. She really didn't have a good support system because her sister was, her sister and her husband bitch. They both were bitches. Right. And I thought A-Train was good up until he was like, I looked up your family history. I wanted to know what I was getting into. And I was like, that's fucked up. Oh, yeah. A-Train, man. Not wrong. Yeah. What did you guys think about? Oh, I'm sorry. But. And I was going to say also the therapist being super intrusive, always showing up. That was nuts.

I thought, yeah, I thought for sure that was just in her head, you know? Oh, I thought it was too, yeah. What did you guys think of the actor who played the cop, the guy who helped her kind of crack the case? Oh, the guy from screen. He did a good job, didn't he? Yeah. He played a good New York, Boston accent type cop, right? I don't know where that accent came from, but he carried it well.

Right. Yeah, I mean, he played it. He did okay. He had, you needed somebody to kind of play that role. She needed somebody to kind of at least believe some of what she was saying. Right, right. And he at least had the frame of mind to kind of investigate. And then he also noticed, you know, he was like, this goes back like,

19 out of 20 cases, you know. Yeah, he traced it that far back, which was pretty cool, you know? Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, you kind of... Yeah, you almost have to start believing that something's going on to that thing. But you would kind of think... But I would have stayed the fuck away from her. I'm sure as that wouldn't have changed him of a hurry...

Yeah, but you would have kind of at least think that somebody would have kind of noticed every time somebody witnesses this person's suicide, that person commits suicide, and then the person that, you know... Yeah, that seems... a bit coincidental, huh? So wait. All right, so she went to the prison to visit that one guy. Yeah, the guy who broke the cycle.

Yeah, he did some research and he found out that somebody had broke the chain before by committing murder. That's right. That's right. And the murder had to be like, like traumatic. Traumatic. So he

that's why he told her, grab a weapon and just make it just violent and brutal. and you have to add somebody witness. And so that got the whatever this was off at his back. Yeah, but in the trade office. Chasing somebody else. Yeah, but the trade office is he's in prison for murdering somebody.

Yeah, so now he's in like a living hell, you know. And there's no way out. They didn't show who he murdered, but the way they described it, they, it sounded like it was. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, some of the murders they didn't show. you, but they showed you what the body looked like after. And that was pretty fucked up. So, yeah, well, well done.

You know, guys got a, guys got a movie-making future, I think. And even the bodies that they showed after were more of a shock than anything than Smiley. Yeah. All right. You guys ready to sign out? Yeah, I think everybody should definitely check out Smiley. I think, I think they're definitely, smile. Oh, smile.

Don't watch Smiley. No, God, Brian. Sorry. Smile. They definitely advertised it as a sleeper hit because I don't think anybody really seen this one coming.

I know I didn't. And yeah, don't watch Smiley. I mean, you can, but you shouldn't. Well, maybe for that for that ass, huh? Well. Just go watch your YouTube channel. Yeah. If you can, if it comes across

somewhere for free. Well, I couldn't even find that. That's the problem. Yeah, well, that's that, yeah, that's a problem. It's not out there right now. But, like, if it rolls across one of the streaming platforms that you already have, Yeah. It's maybe not, yeah, it's, it's, it's, you can watch it then.

But, you know, don't say we didn't warn you. If it's a three on 10, this guy's the next Stanley Kubrick, Philip. He'll be filming the next moon landing. All right. We want to thank all of you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would always love to hear your feedback and ideas. Please reach out to us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Or just go to our website, www.

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we're going to be joined by Jack Falvey the 4th from binge media You know him, you love him He was here for Dune He's getting up there with Art Art, Art, you're slipping, buddy

He may pass you up You guys both get the Saturday Night Live five-time appearance jacket Or smoking jacket or whatever But we're going to talk about The New Hellraiser As well as the original. So,

Bill up until... I'm excited. Yeah? I heard it's like prey when they said pray is... Yeah, pray is finally going to watch. When they said pray is best Predator movie since the first one.

Right? I heard this is up there with the original. Predictor 2 is pretty good. All right. Philip until the horror returns again. Good night.