The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #334: Kids Halloween Special With Beetlejuice (1988) & Halloween Ends (2022)

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

This week, we are joined by Logan, Izzy, Addison and Valeria to talk about Beetlejuice. And then the grownups go on to bring a review of the brand new Halloween Ends. Cool of the Week includes classroom dissection, kittens, a dog popping a football, the Astros, Interview With The Vampire, Let The Right One In, Chucky, She Hulk: Attorney at Law, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Alaska Daily, and The Mole. Trailers are Hell House LLC Origins: The Carmichael Manor and M3GAN. The podcast spotlight shines on Dads from the Crypt. WE GET A BRAND NEW 5 STAR APPLE PODCASTS REVIEW FROM TRINABLONDE. And we get feedback from Gag Me With a Knife, Living for the Cinema Podcast, Matt Wood, Gary Marohnic, Marcus Wilturner, and Russell A. Calhoun. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz    

victims for those of you who delight and dread who fantasize about fear who glorify go welcome you have found the place where the horror returns listeners beware this podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip. Kevin's going to be here later, but more importantly tonight, we have our real guest, and I'm going to hand the microphone over here in just a sec,

but this is our annual kid show featuring Beatty. And then the grown-ups are going to do a review of Halloween ends. Now, I believe the, you guys have seen Halloween ends, right, Addison? So we may be joined for that one as well. What about Izzy Logan? Have you guys seen Halloween ends? Half of it. Yeah, they watched about half of it.

We'll get to that, but yeah. And Izzy's watched a bunch of horror movies lately. We're trying to find something that scares her. Very nice. All right. Well, I am going to hand everything over here to Vilevia and Addison. So start with you guys, tell everybody your background and what kind of scary movies you like and all that good stuff. Who wants to go first? Addison? What's your favorite horror movie? What's your favorite scary movie?

Probably tough me. Good answer. Good answer. I'll probably have to say Chuckie, too. It's just like very... Ah. Kids, after my own heart. Two for Chuckie, Brian. Chuckie.

Philip, what about your crew, man? This is Izzy and Logan. Izzy's my scary movie watcher. Annabelle Creations, apparently, is her favorite one. That was the only one that scared me. Yeah. I realized that she was looking for something. scary scenes and not scary movies.

And I thought, Annabelle Creations has got a whole lot of scary moments without tying them really together very well. And she loved it, sort of. All right. Yeah? I was the one who paid attention the most. Yeah, she was the one that paid attention the most.

Logan, you like scary movies? Yeah. What about the one we watched yesterday? I mean, they're fine, yeah. What's your favorite one so far? Previously, I watched The Conjuring one. Oh, yeah, we had a Contrink Marathon. That's serious.

That wasn't that scary. Yeah. I like... Wasn't that scary? I'm telling me, I showed her the exorcist. She was like, that's not scary, Dad. It's not! Like, all right, well, you just don't get it.

It's not, though. And Mom never saw me close My eyes, huh All right, Logan, what's your favorite scarehood? The first conjure. Yeah? That was the first scary, yeah? I like that something.

This story was. Getting into big kids, scary. Show me another one, Dad. You don't have to show me more. All right. Well, we're still working on Izzy. We're going to find something that scares the shit out of it. Oops.

family friendly Brian I do not have a child with me today she had a school function so she's not going to be here Yeah we got a lot of those All right We lose our host

All right Guys thanks for joining us This is the part where we get into something we like to call Cool of the week. Whatever you saw this week or read or experienced, it can be anything you want. A spook house you went to, an amusement park, it could be a book you read, a movie. Addison, what's your cool of the week? I dissected a chicken week in science today. Whoa! So, dissection. Yeah. Okay. What was that all about? I don't know. Biology class? Nice.

Okay, nice section. What was your cool of the week? That is pretty cool. My teacher has kittens. She's like saving two kittens. They're like the mother abandoned them. Her ex-spouse's wife's house. Aye.

Yeah. That's not nice. And since she's the, apparently they think she's like an animal shelter because she's, She just started this class, like an agriculture class for FFA and stuff like that. You didn't dissect the kittens, though? No. Okay. That's good.

Just making sure. All right. Who's next, Phil? Cool of the week. Logan, you got one? My dog popped football. Well, that's pretty normal. She eats things.

and Marley Fear Up in his kennel That's not really a cool week, guys Depending on how you look at it It could be I guess I don't really have them What are the movies you watched?

My teacher Baseball Astros won Oh yeah I forgot about that Yeah Baseball playoffs There's that Is he?

Is he? So my teacher Like every Friday, but not every Friday It depends if we're good in our class She'll bring her dog, Kora Oh So And you know, do you dissect the dog?

No Oh Okay She attacks me She attacks you Just like Marley does Yeah Is she big?

No, she's about as small as Leah Okay But you're gonna get way bigger What about all the horror movies you watched? Can you name them all? You watched a bunch of them in the past week or two. Animal Spenicians is one. The, what's that one?

The ex-fit. The exorcist. I showed her the exorcist. She didn't get it. The other two things we watched. Conjuring, the two conjuring? You watched the first second, third one. The third one I wasn't interested.

Yeah, we kind of bailed Nobody was. Yeah. Uh, you watch Divan watch. Well, you watched Divan, so. That'd work. He watched too much.

All right. So horror movies, we're trying to scare easy. Brian? Uh, my cool of the week. I'll go real quick. I've watched three shows. I watched the interview with the vampire. First episode.

Oh, how was that? I really enjoyed it. Yeah? I'm going to say... I haven't heard any good things. Well, I don't know. Doing this show, I kind of noticed I like dumb stuff. Maybe it's just dumb and I like it.

But I felt like it was... Yeah, but I can usually base my opinion off yours. If you like it, I'll probably like it. I felt that it was a little bit more... The characters are going to be a little bit more fleshed out than they were in the movie. And... What are you talking about, man? I missed this one.

Interview with the vampire. Ah, okay. Slightly more homo erotic? Yeah. The book was pretty homoerotic. Definitely not child friendly. Yeah. Because there is some nudity and some gore.

So. There was definitely some scenes in The Exorcist that I had to like hit mute and close her eyes. But going off of the first episode, I really like what I saw. It kind of makes me want to read the book, which I'll probably not read, but it does make me want to read the book. It's a lot of books, Brian. A lot of books. Second show is another vampire show, and let's let the right one in. Oh, yeah.

I forgot about that. Doug this one, too. I liked a little girl in it. I thought, just going off the first episode, I thought it was well-acted, and I like where the story's going. and really quick I checked out episode one of Chucky season two nice yeah me too one one episode in so Niz what's up Niz yo

going off all three episodes of first episodes of these three shows I recommend all three shows nice we're into cool of the week Niz cool all right um where's kiddos man it's family fun week They're in there fighting and screaming. Well, that sounds about right. My grandson, he took a, my youngest one, he took a spill last night. Oh, no.

And cut his eye right here. Had to get seven stitches. Oh, well, that aren't making an awesome scar? Yeah, so he's got the full shiner and everything. But he's good. The doctors were saying he was the toughest little two-year-old ever, because he cried when they did the, whatever, to numb it up.

But then after that, he was good. And then when they went in his stitch, he just kind of just laid there. So that was good. I think my wife and I were more nervous than he was. But he's good. He stayed home today. So he was wild.

So he's going back to school tomorrow. So stitches will be in there for about a week. I woke up with a little crease across my eye. And I was like, and I look badass with a scar like that. I wish I'd gotten blown up at some point Cool of the week

I rewatch Texas Chainsaw That Netflix won Listen to 31 days of horror Big Jesse A.k.a. Blind Frankenstein's coming on He wants to talk about that Oh cool

So that's coming Brian we gotta do the brood And I don't know what else I don't remember Definitely got to do the brood because I have questions. So, but I started watching the show, not horror, well, it's horrific, but Alaska Daily with Hillary Swank.

I think it's on ABC, but it's on Hulu. First two episodes are up. It comes on on Thursday. I was just going to watch the one episode and see how it is to talk about it on the show. And it got me. I'm interested. my local news newspaper was involved with the show. Yeah, I was watching it, and I think it's in the Anchorage area,

and then somewhere on the outskirts. But it's dealing with a murder investigation, with an indigenous woman up there that's murdered two years ago, but they never really figured out who did it and why. so Hillary came in to figure it all out with a local, with another reporter, she's also indigenous character.

I can't remember her name. Beautiful young woman. Yeah, unfortunately, there's a lot of those cases up here. Yeah. There's a lot of them that just disappear every year, right? Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot, especially that movie we watched, Brian. Was that up there in Alaska? Or was it Canada?

Frozen ground? Yeah, no. Wind river. With the boxer. with the boxer girl. Oh, that was Canada. Frozen Ground happened up here. The one with John Cusack. Oh, well, now I've got to watch that one.

It's on Netflix. All right. I started watching that show. You know, I had a bunch of kids disappear around him. Uh-oh, Deeper Screamers? So, but it's a really good show. I'm all on board. I love Hillary Swank. I thought she was older than me because she's starting to look old.

I love her. When she shows up on Cobra Car. That's what I was... This is he was told me to watch this show. I told him, I said, she don't have time now. She's doing this show, so... But, oh, I also watched... That's a time for Cobra Kai.

Julie. He'll have seen. Netflix backs that money truck, if she will. Yeah. And there was another show I watched. Made me want to go to Alaska, other than to hang out with you, Brian, to go up a little more north towards Russia.

It's called First Alaskans I think Dealing with the The indigenous ones that are up there Living off the land and all that I am a city boy So I wouldn't mind visiting

But I do not think I live there And keep it that I keep it as real as I can But not as real as them Living off the land That's probably why a bunch of them Disappear every year Living off the land

Where it's fucking frozen All the time Is not deal. That's what they were saying because they were doing ice fishing and they were saying that there's times that you've got to know when to hold them and you're not going to know when to fold

him and get out of there because once that weather comes in, they said they'll never see you again or especially dealing with, I think it's dealing with three families. One of them seems kind of rich so he's got a nice little big cabin and all that. There's these guys

and his two sons. They live way, way close to Russia. And they live in a small little house. And they have to hunt for their food, fish. Then there's a woman in her family. They live kind of in between. I don't know the areas of Alaska. But they have to get their drinking water every day, like right from the river. And she's got to go down there with whoever, her husband or her son, tie a rope around whoever's getting the water out of the river. because the river the river bank is like solid ice or snow and if that breaks then they'll never see them again

so they hold on to each other I'm like all right see that's I just stay home I couldn't keep it that real yeah I just go it's awesome cool as shit I totally live that way but it's also pretty easy to die there's places up here

I live in the city so there's but there's places out here the elements don't get you the animals will yeah the rich family where they live they got a bear issue so they have a dog

they have the little watchdog and when that dog starts barking that's when they start looking around to see the bears are there the Coca-Cola bears are not all nice and cuddly no they're not more like the revenant huh yeah so but it was a really

cool shot I only watched the first episode of that I think there's eight episodes on the National Geographic within the Disney Plus stuff but that and Alaska Daily those are the two cool weeks I just watched those last night and they were amazing I love both of them nice

maybe I want to go yeah I hate crab but it made me want to eat salmon and moose and whatever other meat that they were trying I'm not a crab either not a fan of moose I never had it I'll try it for some salmon man oh yeah being grilled salmon because they were never doing the ice fishing And they were just pulling them out left or right like it was nothing.

So. Yeah. But the guy was saying it was so cold where they were fishing that he would throw the fish onto the ice and instantly freeze. So they had to get it home and hurry up and gutted them up and everything and get them all ready. But I thought that was really cool. It made me want to. It's not like it's going to go bad. Yeah. It made me want all that.

But I'm not out. I'll try the crab to be to be respectful if they prepare it. But I don't, I won't order it. at a restaurant. I'm not a crab eater. I like crab, man. But I've got my crab from like Joe's and it's all frozen and shit. Oh yeah.

Flown down, flown fresh weekly. Yeah. You can taste it. Brian, did you chime in yet? Yeah. All right. So just me? You and I don't think Phil. I don't think you gave one. No, but I'll jump in real quick because mine

is terrible. Uh-oh. As you know, I love, of trash reality TV. Oh, no. Don't say it. What's on Netflix right now? Don't say it. Season two?

Season two? No, it's a reboot of an old show. It's called The Mole. I thought you were going to say Love at First Side or whatever. No, well, those are fun because I can watch them with my wife. I'm trying to get her into this one, but I watch the whole thing and it sucked me in. and it's so stupid it's so scripted

it's such bullshit but uh but it's it's entertaining it's like a like a game show kind of thing right they have these challenges that they have to do

but one of them is trying the the best that they can without being caught to to sabotage and take money away and they have to guess which one it is and they get voted out based on

what their guesses are. So even if they're not the mole, they may be acting like the mole. It turns into a big giant web of deception. Is this a reboot? Yeah.

Okay, I think I've seen the original. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The original came out in like the early 2000s. Yeah, yeah. And I haven't seen that one, but this is like the first, they're like almost towards the end now of it. I think the next

the next couple episodes that come out are the finale's, and they're next Friday. Is this that show with Anderson Cooper? Anderson Cooper, I think, did the original. Okay, that's the one I watched. Yeah, and so this one is like a new version, a reboot of it. But it's like Netflix reality TV,

which... Yikes. If you haven't watched any Netflix reality TV, it's kind of next level. It's pretty good. It's next level, yeah. Next level bad. I mean, it's still trash, but I mean, they do a really good job of the editing and the production and all that. All right.

My cool of the week is a guilty pleasure. She-Hulk, attorney at law. Really? Yeah. I've still learned nothing of bad things, man. Oh, so much more fun than it has any right to be. Breaking the, what, third wall or fourth wall or whatever? Brian?

Yep. I finally finished it. It's fun. What did you think, Nez? Did you liked it? Yeah, it was good. My only issue was the

CGI. Some of it was a little hokey. Yeah, I heard it was bad. The thing that made me the most mad, I mean, I love Daredevil, but I did not like

the joky Daredevil. I wanted the serious... Think of what show it is. Yeah, Daredevil. I want the Netflix Daredevil. I understand that he was joking

because he was in this series. Yeah, I'm sure. Daredevil will return. Don't worry. He better. All right. Brian, any horror headlines or straight on the trailers?

Got a few real quick. RIP to Robbie Coltrane who played Hagrid in the Harry Potter movies. He passed away a couple days ago. Oh, I heard about that. That's sad. uh ted white i believe uh friday the 13th the final chapter right now is yep uh the second best yeah

uh part three jeff barnaby who directed blood quantum passed away also yeah oh man that was that was a rough rest in peace brother and thank you for what you did for us awesome and austin stoker who did uh best known for her assault and precinct 13th uh a lot of people passed away that this week. Yeah, we were talking about all Mike and I were talking about it. We're not getting any younger

boys and girls, but all we can do is do our best, take care of our family and love one each other. And bring in the next generations. Yep. So you young cats, you got to take

care of us when we're old. So remember that. remember everything we've done for you. All right. TV news. Lance will probably be excited for this. Fatal Attraction series, Dee Wallace joins

the cast. Hey. Are up the heels of the show, Dee Wallace. Listen to week two of our 31 recap. You'll hear me talk about that nonsense. Andy Circus has turned

the Wicker Man into a series. Okay. Everybody's excited for that one. You know what? I know everybody gives a lot of shit to that Nick Cage one, and rightfully so, because it's awful,

but it's also kind of awesome. I love that movie. I can appreciate and respect the original, but I was never one that I would constantly go back to. And yeah, that Nick Cage one, I went to the theater and I was,

I mean, don't get me wrong. I love Nick Cage, but, come on. I say no to something. Snake eyes, I think we walked out of in the middle of it. Oh, that was good. But if you go into, if you, rewatched Wicker Man knowing that it's awful, it's hilarious. I went in for something excited and I didn't get it.

All right. Five Nights at Freddy's finally has a director. Oh, Logan? That's your jam. Huh? Five nights at Freddy's. That's not his jam. No?

His game is Sonic dead. Oh, okay. It's going to be direct. Really quick. Logan, is that his name? Yeah. Did you like Sonic 2? Yeah.

The movie? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Which one did you like better? The first one or the second one? Me personally, I choose the second one because it, like, talks about more of, like, how, like, the games kind of...

Okay. He plays the games a lot. I can get with that. I like the first one more. I thought that it was more hilarious. The second one was good. I did enjoy it, but I like the first one more. I was shocked on how good the first one was.

I'm kind of excited about this Mario Brothers movie coming out. Washington Super Mario Brothers 90s or whatever it was. Oh, hey, yeah. I mean, it got to be better than John Lugwazama, right? Super Mario is going to make a billion dollars. I'm excited, too. I'm not really a big fan of, like, the Mario actor. What?

What is it? Chris Crack. He's fine. but who it doesn't have the Mario Star Lord but it Yes Lord Is is Mario Well with the

That's a lot of people have had the problem with the voice right But if you had to if you had to listen to For an hour and a half It's a me Mario Like how that's That's what that's what I want I want I want that

But is Donkey Kong going to be in it or is this Way after I don't know it's in it and Bowser is Jack Black All right, I can see that Well, better than, no King Cooper was Dennis Hopper Rest in peace

Yeah, rest of peace All right Is that it for the news, Brian? Well, I didn't say who was directing Five Nights of Freddy's It's Emma Tammy Which we interviewed A couple years ago

She did that movie The Wynn? Yeah the director of the wind an IFC midnight film is directing Mario Brothers? Oh, Five Nights and Freddy's. They were like on an island? Oh, Five Nights

and Freddy's, okay. Sorry, guys, we're sharing headphones over here, so I can hear about every third sentence. That was the movie where they were like on an island and it was super creepy, right? No, it was in the West.

Western Ghost movie. Cabin, the desert cabin and the fridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. And last, uh, I think it came out,

probably came out more in a couple years ago, probably like three, four years ago. This was early in the show. Okay. And lastly, we're already getting

another VHS movie, VHS 85. I feel like we talk about VHS every single episode. I'm going to talk about it next week. I'm good with it. is 99 now? Next week.

Okay. And then we go back to 85, as I always said. Yeah, 85. And two big names are attached to directing Scott Derrickson, who did the awesome black phone that Lance still needs to rewatch. Could be on the bottom, Tim. All right. You're crazy.

Oh, I'm going to fuck out of here. And David Bruckner, who just did the new Hellraiser movie. Ah. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Oh, dude, watch it. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet.

All right. You guys ready for trailers? Yep. All right. We're going to take a little trip. Girls down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. I'm going to hand the headphones over to you guys so you can talk.

So, Brian, what's our first trailer? Hell House LLC Origins. What? Carmichael Manor. That is a long title. it is the long title but hell house hellhouse LLC I'm happy with

yeah they are basically doing a prequel of what happened before everything same director same writer I'm watching the trailer those scary clowns

are they going to way way back well I guess that's what it looks like or I thought they were going to go back to that night in the first one when that first thing happened so

I don't know I caught I tried to not really watch the trailer because when I started watching the trailer it looked like they were kind of shown a little too much yeah I was just about to say that they are yeah me too

and it's definitely not that I just forgot to watch it Yeah, they're going way, way back when they first built that hotel. Oh, creepy imagery, though. No. She says that. That first one was scary. Is everybody watching the trailer now?

It's not. I am. I'm watching it right now. But this looks good. I mean, I didn't really care for the third one. But the first two were really good. Ah, that second one was... No, I like that one.

Addison? I don't need to rewatch these. No. What's on your mind? What do you think? It's kind of creepy. Like, cool. Yeah, it's nothing but creepy imagery. Yeah.

Anybody else want to jump in? Well, apparently Izzy thinks it's not going to be scary. It's not. It doesn't look like it's pretty scary. How do you know what does it? The exorcist didn't scare her. I know. This is not, this is not working for her. But that's just, I have to think that's because she doesn't get it yet.

What was that? I feel like it's not going to be as scary just because they're telling, like, it's giving more based off, like, the other movies, I think. And, like, I just feel like it's not going to be as scary because they're just giving us more information, like, backgrounds. Like, there's going to be some new things that, like, you can, people didn't know, but overall, I think it's going to be a good, like, movie, but not, like, the scariest. Have you seen the other ones? No.

First one's pretty good. Watch that first one. Yeah, the first one's good. Yeah. Is this going to be a scary animal's creations? Maybe. Yeah, all right. Scary clowns.

That's always terrifying. It is. I just don't know the same picture twice in it. Yeah. I. Oh, he looks bad. I mean, I'm definitely willing to watch it. Just based on the Hell House LLC stuff,

which was super low budget and was pretty damn good for what it was, I'm impressed. So they've got my boat just for that. Nice. This is coming from terror films. And let's see what I can do. I'm in contact with Terra Films. Maybe we can get

an early sneak peek. Hell yeah. Who do we talk to? The directors of Hells, LLC? Yes. What the fuck, man? If we're going to review the new one, we need Samantha back. Samantha Bean.

I think so. Good. I don't shut it. All right. Sometimes it amazes me the people that we've talked to. Yeah. Should have the kids on when we talk to Art the Clown again.

We should. I might scare. We haven't tried Terrier. That might be. Did you guys watch Anything, Dad. Rinkles, the clown? Oh, about the real clown that scares kids?

Yeah. Did you guys watch that? No, I don't know what that is. It was a document. It was on Hulu. I don't know what's on there. It was called Rinkles the Clown. Rinkles the Clown. Just some guy in Jersey that dressed up like a clown and was walking around scaring everyone. Yeah, if you want to, if you

want your kids to be scared of a clown, you can hire this guy. You can call him. Oh, that's nice. And leave a message and tell him about your kids. I watched it, I think it was last year. Is some crackhead that dresses up as a clown? I don't know what he looked like.

I don't remember. It would terrify me. I would terrify me. Watch that show. Watch that one. But they kept flashing a phone number on the screen to say, if you need to call Rinkles, here's his number because there was flyers all over Jersey or wherever it was.

No, I think it was a Staten Island? I don't know, somewhere over there. So on the show when I was talking about it, I was, you know what, let's just give it a call. So I called that number. I just didn't think no one would answer. and answer machine came on, hey, this is wrinkles and leave a message

and all that. Did you leave a message? Yeah, I did. I said, hey, this is Nez and the Zisu from the East Society. We should let you know we're good boys and all that. I can't remember what else I say. Hey, yo, this is Winkles the Clown.

You guys want me to talk with your kids? Because I will. I think it's still on Hulu. I'm not sure. Check that one out. That's That whole story sounds more terrifying than wrinkles the clown or good be All right

We got to move on to our last trailer And it looks like this one that's going to go on the schedule And that is Megan I thought that one was very like interesting Like a robot made to protect the king Like that's pretty cool but also kind of creepy at the same time. Would you play with Megan?

Probably not. Like after watching Chuckie, like how Chuckie turned out a doll, like... What could go wrong? Yeah, like... But it's doing like TikTok dances and stuff. No, I don't think so either. I saw James Juan's name.

Is that... Produced? Yeah, I figured. You're all. already know. He produces more movies than he directs. Is this a little kid in a costume? I don't know, but I want to punch Megan in her face already. How is it going to be CGI the whole time?

From far away, it actually looks like a real person, but she looks up close. Yeah, like, she's like not very, like, realistic, in my opinion. Well, I mean, she's not supposed to look realistic, but still. I like this I like this when it came out I like when this came out a couple years ago and it was called Child's Play I'll watch it

because I thought Child's Play was awesome I thought it was too that was really good yeah it looks pretty pretty damn creepy this is all all sort of seems like black mirror stuff to me

at this point yeah because it's not like that far off. Like maybe this won't be what happens, but it's going to be something. No, there's... It's a glimpse into our future.

Especially that scene where she tries to shut Megan down and then Megan's like, I thought we were having a conversation. Yeah. And then when she pushes the kid into the road and almost gets him ran over. And it like runs like a dog. That's insane.

The dog. Actually, who looks more like a bear. This is Skynet Taking on. Well, hey, we're on our way. I mean, if we don't blow ourselves up before this happens. And an interesting little piece of trivia here.

The little girl's name is Violet McGraw. She is the younger sister to Madeline McGraw, who's in the black phone. Might end up on Lance's bottom 10. I think he needs to re-watch it. I can't believe that. that's the bottom 10 movie for him. No, definitely not.

I mean, I can understand if it's not a top 10, but... No, that was top 10. That was hell of good. All right. Yeah, like, and I can understand the argument for it being in the top 10. I don't understand the argument for it being in the bottom 10. All right. I have to wait a see.

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and the review is in trina blonde says yeah great chemistry and content a must listen thanks all right well i don't know if half of that was for us or from dads from the crypt but you should listen to both Living for the cinema podcast regarding Halloween 3, I guess it's all about the timing. Unlike probably 95% of the first time watchers of this movie, I was actually primed to enjoy it. I'm always a sucker for good paranoid techno-th thriller loaded with synth music. All right. And I did. I'm not beholding to having Michael Myers appear, and I've already watched the entire recent trilogy. So I got

excuse me. I'm sorry. I got my fix of him. Knowing this was something completely different from every other Halloween movie certainly helps. Well, that John Carpenter who did the score and co-wrote it, nasty.

Post-industrial cynical pause are all over this film. Regarding Night of the Demons, Matt Wood says, Fing great movie. Better than which board. Not even.

Which was original or the remake? There is no remake. Don't acknowledge the remake. Remake which board. No way. I heard they were gunned and I don't know what happened. It was hella good. I think we need to do a copy.

Best of the 80s. With Ness. Best of the 80s. Go back a few years listen to my interview with Kevin What's his nuts. That's the movie. When I interviewed him. Was he like a failed hairband guy?

No, he was the director of Witch Ford, which trap. Oh, okay. Did he do this? Which snatch? I think he did the second one. I can't remember. And Night of the Demons and whatever

else he did. All right. Moving on up. All right, regarding haunt, Gary Marpronik says, got to watch it, yet I believe it's on Shutter. Yeah, dude, shutters a good... I mean, if you're going to subscribe to anything, Shudder's pretty worth it. Now we continue to Marcus Will Turner's 31 Days of Horrors.

Seven, it's a masterpiece. It's period, a period, masterpiece. Yep. Always has been, always will be. That's it. That's the review. See you tomorrow. Good review.

I agree. I agree. Yeah. Oh, and happy Friday. Number eight is the soul collector. Considering this film had two separate main titles, it certainly plays out like two distinctly moody stories that either mesh or collide with each, which eat, which eat, with. with each other, if he results. It's grimy, dirty, sometimes beautiful, and tragic trek into emotionality,

and how it can paralyze those suffering and leaving them vulnerable against evils of superstition, legend, and lore. Along with that, the unlikely duo of Lazz and Mary's palpable chemistry and a few macabre moments. This conflicting clashing feature has enough soul to bring about a suitable watch. Definitely another chiller worth collecting.

Of all the shit in that review to catch me up. Number nine is Beast. Crisp cinematography, decent special effects, if he situation decisions,

mild suspicion of disbelief, reliable performances and a monstrous lion out for blood boosts this man versus nature throwback that brought the rousing throws for the entire family to enjoy if they're into that sort of thing CGI was garbage in that movie. What did you guys think about bees? What's yeah? You liked it with the line? It was me or I felt like it was kind of short?

Kind of short? That's good. If you feel like it's kind of short, that means everything went fast. It looks very. Yeah. If you feel like it's super long, it means it jug. I want to see the behind the scenes with a guy in a green suit jumping on Idris. Rar.

Number 10. X. Bottom line, as mentioned before, and pretty much every other time I've watched one of their films, A24 knocked another one out of the park. Thanks to West's influence, experienced, and skillful conduction. The cast, tone, atmosphere, tributes, effects, erotica, violence, and surprises were unique and exuberant. This took the old-fashioned slasher formula and brought in some needed fresh. and fluffing, I bet it did, for the maximum performance and daring valiance. X marks the spot and A24 hits it smart, indisputedly.

Nice. Did you guys do Pearl? No. Okay. Eleven is perfect blue. Unprecedented territory here once again. Here once again. decided to try out an animated feature for the horathon,

diving into the endless catalog that little phenomenon called animate me, which seriously covers all the genres and subgenres, this an uncompromising classic worthy of its praise, reverent status and glorious spotlight. I don't know what that is. Perfect blue? I've heard of it. Anime is not my thing.

Logan, do you watch anime? No, not really. Nah, you just plays games. What about you ladies? No, not anything. All right, you're on the right show then. All right. Number 12 is the devil all the time.

The devil is good. Dot, dot, dot, all the time. And don't you forget it. Hallelujah. I feel like that doesn't work. All right, but the devil all the time. I don't know what that one is either. It was the Spider-Man and Batman.

Oh. It was on Netflix. Yeah. Batman was, what's his name? Robert Pattinson. He was like a preacher. Oh, that one. That was good.

Oh, okay, okay. I was like, wait, was it like a Marvel thing and a DC thing? I don't understand. When a soldier shows up and. Yay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in the day. Number 13.

One of my favorites. Little Monsters. It occurred to me that I haven't watched a straight-up horror comedy this month, so I decided to rectify the error post-haste. And with that comes the devilishly charming, firmly raunchy, and light some romp into the Ram-Zom-Com genre. As far as this goes, it's another treat for the entire family to consume, kind of. Little Monsters, that was, uh, I can't remember.

Fred Savage. Fred Savage, there he goes. I loved that movie when I was a kid. Howie Mandel. Yeah, Howie Mandel. Is he still in trouble? Who, Fred? Yeah.

Yeah. Howard Mandel? No, Fred Savage. Oh, is Fred Savage in trouble? He doesn't know how to say, he doesn't know what no means. Well, that seems to be the story. Allegations of misconduct

on several of the women who reported Savage to Disney HR. Really? Yeah. You never know about people. Yeah, little Kevin Arnold. You never know, but like sometimes, I wonder about them, but when there's several,

that's... He's the mole. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like, Cosby. I don't want to believe it, but there's like... When there's like, I think it was like 70. Yeah. Once you hit double digits, it's like, all right.

Yeah, it's a couple. I don't know, but when it's like 78 or something. Number 14, was Hellraiser. Hey, we didn't make that movie. The originalize them. Bottom line, when it's time to take

when it's, sorry, bottom line, while it'll take time to determine where to place this among the other installments of this disjointed franchise, Brutner's new story, oh, so maybe this is the new

Hellraiser. Does pack a significantly vicious wallop. Sure, it falls into the pits with a semi-grading script overuse of the F-bird, which I've already said 15 times in this

podcast, but that's okay. And lackluster characters. Really? Well... Isn't that one you want to see? I didn't see it. But the demonically dynamite pinhead and impressive cinnobites as well as the sleek imagery bold setting, Prime Effects,

and substantial bloodletting makes this venture a prodigious sight to behold. No centibite with the CDs stuck in its head? You gotta go back to the 90s for that one. No, okay,

the cinnibites and Pennhead were awesome. I can kind of agree with him on the rest of the lackluster characters. But dude, this is a good movie. Is it two hours? I don't even think it's that, is it? A little over an hour and a half. Oh, okay.

Yeah. It didn't seem super long. Because I just watched that Texas Chantel, a new one. It was only an hour and 20 minutes. Yeah? It flew by fast. I didn't realize how short it was. Hey, if it flows by fast, that's a good thing. If it's an hour of 20 minutes and it feels like you've been sitting there for six hours, that's a problem. Number 15, Werewolf by Night.

Richly, atmospheric, wonderfully gothic. hugely referential, surprisingly brutal and marvelously ambitious. Got through that. Motherfucking. Awesome. I loved it. Go listen to our Werewolf by Night, 31 Days of Horror. Zizu and I ran through the whole thing.

And Man thing, oh, that was my child. I was one of my childhood loves of monsters for Marvel. And finally got to see him a real, not that crappy one they did years back, but finally a

decent take on... Oh, you're talking about the Man thing? Straight to DVD movie. Yeah. That nobody knew about. Yeah. I think it came on sci-fi.

They tried to sell it. What they sell it is, Stan Lee's Man Thing or something? Yeah. I mean, nothing against anybody in it or the guy that was the Man Thing, but nah. This one now.

man thing is in the MCU so I'm ready for more the man thing there's that I'm gonna not anyway uh

Giacino that is hey I might pronounce that right I don't know and company have arisen a meticulous love letter to classics and uh

set up this new dark macabre level of uh cinematic multiverse um There's a reason why fans and non-fans are equally grooving to this. It just works on a multitude of levels and proves once again Marvel isn't just churning out soulless entries that all look the same, but distinct entertaining quality installments that speak to the messes one way or another.

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We would appreciate it. Featured attractions. This week, we're going to talk about Beetlejuice with our gusts because that's what's in the script. And then go on to a review of Halloween ends. Endes. From Beetlejuice,

1988. The spirits of a deceased couple are harassed by an unbearable family that has moved into their home and unbearable is a good name for it. And hire a malicious spirit to drive them out. Directors Tim Burton, classic, also known for Dark Shadows, Sleepy Hollow, Nightmare Before Christmas, others.

Peewey's Big Adventure. His best movie. Is that, was he even Peeby's Big Adventure? That was his first movie. Awesome. According to Michael Keaton, the Beetlejuice character was described to him by director Tim Burton as

having lived in every time period, but no time period. Wait, I just might have blacked out for a second. Known for Dark Shadows. Who wrote these notes? Didn't you direct that movie? Yeah, but that's horrible. Yeah.

There's a whole lot of stuff you can put for Tim Burton. That's not one that I would pick. I always get dark shadows confused with the comedy one that's out now. Oh, monsters? No. Garbage. The vampire one. Oh, what are we doing the shadows?

What are we doing the shadows? There it is. And I'm like, oh, he did what are we doing this? Oh, no, he did dark shadows. That was bad. I missed that one. uh okay so at beetle juice had lived in every time period but no time period keaton used this as the jumping off point to create the character with such features as a shock hairdo mold makeup and large teeth so keaton did that keaton is the genius behind beetle juice um all of the people in the waiting room and in the office are in the same condition as when they died.

And the way they died is shown clearly. However, the Maitlands who drowned are not wet. Tim Burton felt that keeping the actors wet all the time would be too uncomfortable. Yeah, that's Kane Hodder. You are not. Kane Hodder had to be wet that whole time. Was it Jason Takes Manhattan? Yeah.

He looked wet and gooey the whole time. He should have just like in Jason X when he was in. in space, he should have just had like little balls of water floating off of him. Water and blood. All right guys. Beetlejuice, it's your time to shine.

What do we think of it? I think it's like very interesting. It's like not any normal I guess you could say movie. I think there's more to it than like as it seems like there's more to it if you really look

into it. Yeah? So you liked it then? Yeah. Like when I was younger I used to think it was really creepy but like and like I kind of understand it now like it's like

I think I've seen better movies but overall it's a pretty good movie. Always fun. What's better than Beetlejuice in your opinion? Um, Terrifier. Whoa

Two totally different things But all right Yeah I go with that We rolled into the big girl movies I can't argue with that No I can't either Awesome movie All right

Anybody else? I think that It's a pretty good movie Especially from like the time period It came from And like I think it's like Really like

like interesting and it has like a lot of yeah it's just like different like normal movies like normal scary movies it is different it's unique and it's all kind of quirky yeah Tim Burton's a different kind of guy

gives you some range from Michael Keaton like what a what a home alone Batman and uh Stranger things have in common. Eh?

Beetlejuice. All right, Logan. You want to talk about it? Sure. So, I mean, I thought it was weird, but also creative in some sort. Yeah? Did you enjoy it? I enjoyed it.

Yeah? Pretty good movie? Mm-hmm. Did you guys watch it again? It was also weird. Yeah, we just watched it right before we started here. I mean, they've seen it before, but we just watched it again. Yeah.

What did you think about the effects? Did they look real or fake? Some of them looked mostly real, and some of them were a lot of them kind of looked fake. Really? Because, see, I think that the fake stuff that they did back then looks realer than the fake stuff. You'd rather see Play-Doh than CGI Fire, right?

What did you think? What did you think of the young girl, Lydia? What does that mean? You thought she was cute. No. What? What? You're like me of Wednesday.

Adam? There are you. Calm down, Danes. It reminds you of Wednesday Adams? Yeah. Yeah. So they're similar to each. How did you think?

How did you like how you dressed? Is that cool for how you guys dress now? Nope Some people Black wedding gal in the home I know right Looks like she's about to get married

Yeah I know Like she got more festive But she was about to marry Beetlejuice Do you guys have girls at school Or guys that wear all black all the time Yep We sure do Huckle people

Emo Emo? Emo That's what they go why They're not, they were, well, in this movie, she was maud in these, in this day. Izzy, what do you think? So rude. Um, it feels good. That's it?

I don't know. I mean, it's creative. Was it scary? No. No, it wasn't scary? Was it scary enough? I think that would even scare a toddler. Was it fun?

Yeah. Yeah, you had a fun. Not fun with phone. We went through the ball in my head, but yeah. Yeah, it's fine. What about the music? That was very funny. Yeah, music is kind of awesome.

Through the whole thing. That's what got me into watching it. Like, as soon as I started it up and they started kind of playing the music, like the little teasers, I was like, I love this movie. it's a very good movie it's very funny yeah it's just like it's so sort of okay yeah it no it's not okay

it's good it's good yes um the uh the only part that kind of got me surprised um it's like it's like during the beginning when the uh

the people who originally lived there trying to scare them um and like the girl like Take it off her eyes and screaming. Yeah. That happens if you poke your eyes through your tongue. It's a little scary. I don't think you can do that. You can't fit.

Yeah. All right. I enjoyed it too. Nez, have you seen Beetlejuice lately? Of course. Yeah? It's an awesome movie. It is a great movie, isn't it?

It's got my one. Music is killer. It's got my woman in it. Beautiful Winona writer. I thought you were about to say, Gina Davis. I was about to say, get out of here. Well, I wouldn't say no, but Winona. Yeah, I know.

She's got my heart ever since Lucas. And she, I think her birthday is this month. I think we passed it. I'm not sure. But, oh. Winona or Gina? Winona. I'd be her getaway driver any day.

Did I miss it? Did I miss it? No. 29th. See next week? Yeah, next Saturday. Of October.

This one's the 28th. He's going to be the big one, too. Yeah, I love this movie. It's good. I mean, Mr. Mom is Beetlejuice. He's not Batman. I don't care what anybody says. What?

He's not Batman. He's not Batman. Who's Batman? No. Adam West is batting. Oh, no, get out of here. Adam West. Adam West.

Well, that's the only other acceptable answer. I mean, Christian Bale is pretty good. Christian Bell and then Robert Battenson. You ready to say that already? Huh? After one performance? You're ready to put him up there? Yep.

He was good. Yeah. So both of those guys better than Michael Keaton? Way better than him. Nah. What? Adam West, followed closely by Michael Keaton as. No, Val Kilmer's right at that.

Oh, my gosh. Who's the best, who's the best Joker ever? Zer Romero. She's still. Okay. All right. Then Heath Ledger, then Mark Hamill. All right.

Then Jared Lido. And then, uh, no, Jack? Oh, he's in there? Yeah, he's good. I want to see how that new guy is. That guy that was in the Eternals, that was Joker at the end of Batman. Oh, okay. I don't know that he's going to be in the next movie.

Yeah, the killing of a sacred deer guy. Yeah, we'll see. You guys give scores yet? The kids give scores yet? Oh, no. All right, let me hand this back. Hold on. All right.

One to ten, guys. What do you give? Beetlejuice. Ten is the best. One is no good. Um, I think I wouldn't say five, so maybe like a seven. Not bad. Not bad?

It's like an all right thing. Seems doable. I have to give it six. Uh-oh. Taking F to your granddad, huh? Not giving big scores out. Oh. Any particular reasons?

Just, I feel like just, like just, like. like from in this like time period like I'm not used to see like the way they like did that movie back then and just overall I just think like I don't know like I just don't find it as interesting as I would other movies. We didn't we didn't have the technology that you guys have today. Yeah back then. So they had to they made everything by hand. Although I still think it's fair to compare them like apples to apples, you know what I mean? Like CGI versus the stop motion claymation junk that Tim Burton did. I'll always go practical. Yeah, I personally always go practical too and maybe that's just going to be a different generational thing.

Not to say CGI is bad. I mean, there's some amazing CGI. but it's also a short cut. Yeah, but then you get American Werewolf in Paris and all the other cruddy movies that are out there. And the CGI blood, which I hate. CGI Fire, which Lance hates, and it's going to be my new band name. Let me know. Logan

what do you think um between 7.5 and 8 between 7.5 and 8 you enjoyed it yeah and they sat through the whole thing that's the best I can ask

um there's a lot of like since I recently watched it I realize good good score it has like a cool concept to it

I like the concepts of like the character. Here comes. Here comes Beetlejuice. I freaking loved Michael Keaton as Beetlejuice fan. I was like yelling at the kids the whole time. Hey, what are you on? Uh, Izzy, who's it? 1 to 10.

6.9. Uh, that's very specific. Who did? Very precise. Yeah. All right. 6.9 from Izzy. the one that I thought wasn't going to shut up

she won't even come over to the microphone All right Let's see I guess I'm going to give it A-9 I love this movie I will watch it every year Michael Keaton as Beetle Juice is

classic and I hope they never remake it Yeah Brian what do you think well I grew up with the movie so I'm gonna give it at nine also I used to I used to quote this movie I remember one time at school I said the the model line and knock someone's science prayer project out their hand don't do that it's not good yeah but I liked everybody I like the actors Gina Davis Baldwin number three I don't know which one it was that was that Alec wasn't it?

I think so. Yeah, that was Alex. I think it was to think that he's the person that shot a guy. You never know. Like we said earlier, you never know about people. I know. Nez, what do you think? Oh, this is a 10.

Just for Winona. Hello, good. Just for one. She's got a big brown beaver, you know. Is Jeffrey Jones? still in hiding? Wasn't he just in what's that HBO thing

they did? Was that the Paris Spieler guy? Yeah. Yeah. The didler. Didn't he do a movie for that HBO show? Oh, he did?

That Western show. And it was called the Didler? No, no, no, no. Oh. What's the Western show that was back in the day on HBO? he was in it

yeah he was in it and they brought him back for when they did the movie and this was after he got convicted I really think if we knew the truth about Hollywood we'd be really surprised about a lot of Deadwood? Yeah they brought him back when they did the movie okay yeah he's in the movie

came out in 2019 well he's still been acting this whole time I don't know how he just works with the rest of him he was doing some inappropriate stuff too so I don't know man

Corey Feldman tried to warn everyone but nobody wanted to listen so speaking to him any of guys going to Sinister CreatureCon in Sacramento California this weekend look for me I'll be there and I'm going to go meet the man himself Corey Feldman

rest in peace Corey Hain Yeah, rest and peace Corey Hane Why do you think that happened? I don't know

man, it was a lot to that story Just saying If you listen to Corey Feldman It should be pretty obvious

I'm sure the addiction And all that stuff That they were running around partying and getting dittled And all that But oh man

But Yep Rest and peace Corey Hame All right We need Lance's Lance.

Lance, are you there available? Appaul, where are you? Lance, pay attention. Oh, you're asking for my score? Yeah. Oh, okay, Beetlejuice. The first time I saw this movie in the theater, I had a cheat on a small square piece of paper

30 minutes before. That might not be a bad idea. No, not a bad idea at all. Got a lot out of the special effects. It is a bad idea, boys and girls. I enjoyed it. eight on ten don't eat paper it's not good for you

yeah that's not eight on ten that's not the fiber they're talking about let's see the stars on all right we moving on yep all right guys we're moving on to Halloween

do you want to give your scores before we go into our full review we already gave our scores for review Halloween ends you both saw it right oh yeah yeah yeah is that cool

Brian can they give their scores yeah of course the scores. All right, here. You can go first this time. Let's do it with this one. I think I'll give it probably a battle five.

Right in the middle, huh? It was not that good. Michael, like, he wasn't even in the movie that much. And I thought there was going to be a lot more killings. Yeah. Because I feel like in Halloween kill. there was a lot or like there was

used it all up for that movie yeah but and I don't like how that guy tried to take over Michael's spot yeah I don't like how he tried to like replace him so I think I don't give it like a six and a ten because I feel like they could have done

a lot better like more stuff there were some like gruesome parts of the movie but other than that like not not much And just overall, like, just how it came to like an end, just I feel like it was really good. I got you. All right.

There you go. Preempt the scoring. Not great. Middle of the road, I suppose. That would be the best explanation. But let's go. Halloween ends from 2022. the saga of Michael Myers and Lori Strode comes to a spine.

Bye-bye. Thanks, guys. I really appreciate you. Awesome job. Yep. Good job, guys. Thanks. The saga of Michael Myers and Lori Strode comes to a spine-filling climax, and not in the way that you want.

In this final installment of the trilogy, director David Gordon Green, also known for Halloween and Halloween kills. Writer is Paul Brad Logan. Logan! Not that. Shout out. Paul Logan, not Logan Paul. Also known for Mangalhorn.

Oh. Sure. In the climax of the film, the character of Lori hides from the shape and a closet with a see-through door, much like the original from 19. The main difference being that in this film, she attacks the shape by jumping out of the closet and not the other way around. This could be understood as the character of Lori overcoming her fears and taking control.

Sure. Nick Castle has a non-Michael Myers cameo for the first time in the trilogy as the partygoer who flashes his costume at Corey and says, See anything you like? this is a nod to the iconic line said by Linda in Halloween Riff Randall Yeah All right You guys want to give your scores for Halloween

Before you head out They only watch 30 minutes of it that came I'm discounting your scores go away You give your opinion on it if you have an opinion on it How much I watched it, I was a really big fan because myers didn't show up until the end. Of when I left. They both bailed about like the hurt of it. They're like, this is not even happening.

There's nothing even happening. Who could blame them? But with the first part, I was like really shocked. Yeah. But did you enjoy? the pieces that you washed or just got too slow in your left? Yeah, I enjoyed the pieces. So if you had to give it a score between 1 and 10, what would you give it?

So far, around 6.5? 6.5. Wow. Generous. Generous. So not bad, but also not a real score because he didn't finish the movie. It got pretty decent after you left, but I'm going to have to argue with these guys. Okay.

You want to hang out? Love it. Sure. Okay. Logan's going to hang out with us. All right. And then he leaves. He's closing.

Izzy took the dog and ran off. Well, I'll go last. All right. You know what? I'm going to. to start it out because as confused as I am by this movie and I kind of

wanted to let you guys go first just to get a good read on it because I'm not sure what I think about it. Okay. Fair enough. Very, very different, probably way too different for a Halloween movie. I think that's a big

risk to take on the last movie that's coming out. You know what I mean? And they probably shouldn't have done that. have felt like two movies mashed together. Having said that, I like the movie that they mashed with it. I did kind of enjoy it.

It was a little slower, but it was also a little more fleshed out. I didn't get some of it. Yeah. I can't go too far. Let's just say it was a little bit Nightmare on Elm Street, too.

Yeah. But like, they had these in-between transition scenes where they played some old cool music. And it had a vibe to it that was very 70s, I think. Yeah. And I think that, man, it was like almost there. I think it really could have worked. It was just they tried something totally different. and I still

I still had a really good time with it as much as most people are probably going to completely disagree with me. I liked the movie. Nice. It wasn't what I thought it was going to be, but I liked it. Right, yeah, it was different. Even from all those long trailers,

they still didn't hint at what was going on in the background. Yeah, that definitely is not that was pretty well done. Lance, you want to go? Did you read a synopsis for this one? Uh-uh. Or probably at the beginning, right? It just says the saga of Michael Myers and Lori Strode's

comes to a spine-chilling climax. Pretty generic description. All right, here's Google. Four years after her last encounter with mass killer, Michael Myers, Lori Strode is living with her granddaughter and trying to finish her memoir. Myers has been seen. since and Lori finally decides to liberate herself

from rage and fear and embrace life. However, when a young man stands accused of murdering a boy that he was babysitting, it ignites a cascade of violence and terror that forces Lori to confront the evil she can't control. I feel like those

are two totally unrelated things. That's what... Were you reading an IMDB? Well, no, that's just what was on here, but probably came from IMDB. But like, I still though, I feel like those are two unrelated, like the boy

who was accused of murder even though technically he's like accidentally murdered. I mean, at nothing else, that's manslaughter, right? Are we given too much away already? No, it was. That's the very beginning of the movie. That was all knowledgeable

before. Lance, what did you think? Not a good movie, guys. No? No, no. These have gotten progressively worse for me. The first one was okay. A lot of great nostalgia.

Once we got to this silliness of evil dies tonight, evil dies tonight, evil dies tonight, the town with torches and pitchforks and shit like that, the second one kind of lost me, but I don't know, man. Nope. That was the best one out of this story. I agreed to disagree. But this was so much.

But this was so much worse. So much worse. Yeah, you've definitely got some storylines that have no reason being together. And yeah, I got a little, like I said, a little feeling of that nightmare part two or the grooming. He's grooming. He's grooming type thing. I guess it was trying to say some things that were larger in scale. I have trouble believing that certain people could overpower.

other certain people. I don't know. See, I don't want to give anything away because when I saw the trailer, I had no idea this kid was even in it. So I don't want to ruin it, you know, for people that haven't seen it. But as far as the quality of the movie,

dialogue was horrendous. You've got, basically, I would say this is, I would say this is probably Jamie Lee Curtis's worst role ever. What? Did she perfect? She, uh, I,

don't need to rewatch that one. That was the one where she was working with John Rolta. Yeah, she was working. Doing workouts. She looked amazing in it. What's the one with Arnold? True lies.

True lies. Lise was good. Yeah, she was working at bed. She was already old as shit rocking it. She's had some great roles that this wasn't one of them. And I think that she kind of got caught up in her own ego on this movie. And it's like this movie wasn't even

about Michael. He doesn't even show up until 30 minutes into, you know, the second act is when he finally even shows up. Is it even him, it doesn't matter if it's him? Because he's a pussy and people are overpowering him that shouldn't be. He's like 80 years old. Well, you know what? I have

a theory on that. Yeah, we'll definitely get into that. Is it like Tinkerbell? No. I did. I did. I did not enjoy, I did not enjoy this baby at all. Did you pay for it or was it free?

Oh, I saw it on the cock. You talked me into it, Nez. I subscribed to the ad-free peacock, and that's where I saw it. You didn't go to the theater to see it? No, because I was going to go to the theater to see Pearl, but my wife pulled me back because she's writing reviews as a district manager, and she, I was halfway to see Pearl on Friday man and she's like,

calls me and says, can you come help me write a review? And I'm like, God damn it. Sure. So I got fucked double time. But I did see it on Peacock on a nice TV, good surround sound in my room and all that. So now that you've got Peacock, you'll be joining us,

you'll be joining us for wrestling returns now. I would be happy to you, man. Yeah, at least one episode. Watch Crown Jewel. All right. We'll do. You know what? made me not want to subscribe

to the cock. What's that? They won't let me watch Sunday night football. Oh no. Not good. I have to like sign up and subscribe and all that bullshit. Well, it likes the new... That's the world we live in, brother. To stream Sunday night football, which is fucking free

on network television. It turns into a whole thing. I know, man. I don't get it. Isn't it free on Amazon or is that just Thursday? That's just Thursday. Thursday night football. Everybody's got their own contract.

Which I kind of wish I hadn't watched after I watched the Cowboys get destroyed. The only time I get to watch football when I'm at home is on either Peacock or Paramount Plus. Oh, yeah. I don't have any of the, well, Amazon, but I work with all that's going on. Yeah, Apple Plus does a lot of baseball, I've noticed. Also, by the way, Just to throw some shade out there, the NFL app, the NFL Plus app, which I pay for it, sucks. Oh, no.

It's $100 a year. Their app is fucking terrible. They own a day of the week and they can't hire a goddamn programmer. Do they show every game? Not live. They'll show replays of it, though. You mean like the Red Zone type thing? Well, no, but like you can go back in and watch replays of the games after they're over, which...

You're paying for it and you don't get every game? No. That's up. That's up. Yeah, it's like $100 for the season. For highlights? No, it's like you can see the whole game. And sometimes my Cowboys are not shown in Houston. And most Sundays I have baseball tournaments with this one.

So I don't get to watch them. All I get to watch is the replays. So I pay for it. Because that's the only fucking way you can watch football. That's the football returns. And that's the sports returns Boys and Girls. Am I bitching about the NFL?

Like they're hurting for money or something. Hire a fucking programmer, guys. Come on. So in the A-N-N-S you didn't care for it. Yeah, this movie was rough. You know what? You know what?

I'm not trying for. I've had some, well, I've had so much respect for Laurie Strode until she, shit, dude, she came out as a fucking peacock in this. You can tell she executive produced the fuck out of this

because it was nothing at the Laurie Strode show from Starz. You executive produced What were you going to say? I'm sorry. The Lori Strode show. I didn't get that either.

All right. What were you going to say, Nez? I'm not liking this, man. The subplot the subplot was fucking asinine, dude. Absolutely asinine. How many times do you guys

whatsoever? It would be cool. it was a different movie. I watched it four times. I'll never watch it again. Once is enough. So, anyway, I was just talking about how, actually, Brian and I

were just talking about how a lot of these comedy directors or comedy writers do great work. You know, Jordan Peel, the dude that did Barbarian. And yeah, I thought the first of these three was pretty good, but I don't know, man. They just, to me, they completely

jumped the shark on this one. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Nez, you loved it? Is that jump the shark is probably not the phrase I would use for what they did here. Jop the pumpkin? I don't know. What's his name?

The comedy guy. The director for popcorn. Go listen to that episode. Oh, okay, cool. Mark, I had no idea. I love popcorn. He was one of the guys in Porkies. Oh, shit.

Yeah, I love that movie. So that was new to me when being Brian. did it the other night. Well, dude, any horror movie that takes place in a movie theater, I'm a sucker for that. So I love popcorn. Brian, I'm about to pull the trigger on that steelbook. It's 50, but I want it. Good investment.

It's limited. What do you think? Yeah, it is. What did you think of this, Brian? All right. Did I hate it? No. Did I love it?

No. I'm kind of right there in the middle. There was some things that I appreciated that they tried to do. but within those things that they tried to do didn't make this feel like a final inclusion into this franchise. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it belongs here. If a certain plot line with Mr. Corey Cunningham

was done maybe the previous movie, I probably would have been okay with it. Okay. But that kind of didn't go anywhere by the end of this movie. I have some theories on why Michael was the way he was. And we'll get into that in spoilers. Okay, yeah.

All right. I can see why a lot of people wouldn't like this movie. It just, it doesn't feel like a final conclusion to this franchise. Well, first of all, it's not a final conclusion to the franchise. In a few years, they'll reboot it and have a completely different storyline. Of course they will. I will eat my hat. last Halloween movie. At least they did go

full Fargo. It is the last with... They went full Fargo. It is the last with Jamie Lee Curtis because she had it in her contract that they're not going to bring this character back. Uh, okay. Well, that doesn't mean that they

won't continue. Yeah, I was about to say good luck with that. Oh, they'll continue it. It's just this this Lori Strode Michael Myers saga is done. Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess this was her swan song. But did they bring Michael Myers back?

He can do whatever they want. He's an entity, right? I mean, and that's kind of what I, an aspect that I did like. Right. What they said in the last movie about the more he kills,

the more he transcends. I kind of felt like they tried to include the town. It kind of gave me not comparing quality of movies but how the the second it movie

okay how they you know they just basically flat out told you that dairy was a bad place bad things happened here and I like what they were trying to do with Haddonfield it's just a fucking bad place you know bad shit happens here

yeah that's cool there's a vibe here yeah about halfway through the movie I was like why do they still live here? Yeah. Like everybody

hate you? You would You can't go to the fucking grocery store to a different town. Yeah and then you would even question why Lori's granddaughter

still lives there because they look at her a certain way. Sure. That's what I'm saying. I have to make a fucking rant. When did the

fucking band kids become the fucking tough kids? Yeah. I was I was waiting on spoilers to say that. With their fucking marching band uniform. This ain't the 80s, man. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was

everything's topsy-turvy now. Everything's, like, dude, you gotta have stuff in your pocket because as soon as that guy starts talking shit, you got to be like, really, in your fucking band overalls? Oh, are we talking about the one with the mullet? Because I would, excuse me, listeners, but I would fuck him up quickly. and like not even physically it's like you don't even have to try you can just mutilate that guy with words

bothered me so he bothered me so much how he would just the nerds has turned on its head you can't use the F word anymore and I mean lots changed the Mullet Band kid bothered me so much

you're confused about your gender all right do what you need to do the mother sorry that was probably offensive to the mother band kid with his band nerds start talking shit to you yeah all right well it this shit is on

yeah and the main cover khyn needs to show up the main one wasn't even he was like the smallest one out of the bunch right well the little rich kid with the smallest dog has the biggest bark right yeah riding around

riding around in the asshole the fucking band nerd uniform what the fuck all right that's enough for the band kids but I

the whole Corey character I just honestly I if they would have did this in a previous movie and set up that whole

aspect and go somewhere within this movie I would have appreciated that character more but to introduce

that character and for him to end up where he did kind of just wasted a whole chunk of this movie

yeah and then the final confrontation was how did they say anti-clomactic just kind of he looked like he was about 10 years older than those kids yeah I know kind of like John Travolta in Greece he's 37-year-old high schooler

that was everybody in that movie I know I know mostly why I was confused I'm like you're letting these band nerds talk to shit to you at a gas station and you're a grown fucking man. Yeah. Band bullies.

And if you're, if you're the town psycho, you leave that person alone. You don't antagonize him. Right. That's why they're band nerds. They've just gotten their status. Oi. Oie, me.

Nez, did the one kid with the mullet, did he irritate you when he was like twirling his drumsticks around? Oh, he was a fucking asshole. I ought to beat his ass too. My name is Earl. I was like, because you thought he was going to talk shit to me while you're twirling drumsticks, you fucking nerd?

Well, I wouldn't go that for. I'd throw my drumsticks. Come on. He might be the next David Cover Day. Yeah, but you're not wearing marching band uniform. Yeah, I mean, what bug me about that? In overalls? Get the fuck out of it.

You can't wear that and talk shit to me at the same time. It doesn't work that way. I mean, I'm not, I'm not bagging on the guys that play band or anything. I'm bagging on this fool because he thought. he was fresh with that mullet and it was not fresh at all. It wasn't so much the mullet. It was the stupid fucking bangs.

No, it was the way he talked. It was the way he talked because he would walk up and be like, he said apologize, yo. He thought he was the freshest thing since sliced bread.

And I knew some guys like that. And I beat up many guys like this. But, oh, man. I was just like, I'm like, first of all, I was like, why is this guy hanging out with this rich boy? Right. And they're like totally, totally from two different sides of the tracks. And I was like, oh, man.

No, he wasn't. He was trying to be gangster suburban. Not with that mullet, man. That mullet looked like it was straight out of the black phone, man. You can't be. The same costume. I'm telling you, it was a half a dumb and dumber haircut. Yeah.

You can't be thinking you're hell of raw with that mullet. I'm sorry. If any of you listeners have a mullet, I mean, yeah, cool party. But no, this kid, man. He was party in the back and goofy in the front. I mean, no, dude, if you, I'm, even if you're a listener, if you have a mullet like that, do something different. That doesn't work.

Yeah, take your advice, right? And if I was, if I was this kid, man, I mean, I would have went to jail. I would have beat that fool's ass. Yeah. It would have been worth it, I think, huh? Because the way he kept coming up to him, trying to be all raw. Oh, hell no. Well, he wasn't to fight nobody.

It was just the asshole at the head of the snake, man. All you got to do. Some beer, yo. Yeah. All you got to do is punch that dude in the nose and everybody else runs away. Oh, man, that whole little crew. Well, it made those two guys. nothing against the girls.

No. They were explicit. They got what they deserve. They didn't stop anything. Yeah. Especially the bridge scene when she thought something more happened to them and the rich kid was like,

just get in the car, let's go. And I was like, wow, you're just going to leave somebody there like that. I know. I... Well, honestly, though, that's still kind of on him. He just let that shit happen. Um, all right.

The first time I watched it, I went and saw it Thursday night. There was only like 10 of us in there. But it was playing like on 20 screens. So. Yeah, yeah. Big opening. I wasn't figuring that everyone was going to be jammed in mind. So. And, um, all right. A few younger listeners, teenagers,

early 20s go to a movie and be quiet and not run up and down the these were teenagers they kept going up and down the stairs acting like four year olds yeah I was like really I mean they actually had to pee a lot

no I bet you they were doing that thing they were trying to run out acting like they were scared I don't know what they were doing but it was just I was like this is it was it didn't bother me but I noticed it out of the corner of my eye because I'm into that mode I'm at a movie theater I can block everyone out

so but yeah that's my main beef with my viewing but so the movie I got going people don't understand movie theater courtesy anymore some do man they're usually pretty good at the theater

I usually go to yeah but it's it's it's rare I've been to yeah I'm sure the between it's fucking awful yeah everybody online is either for this movie or against the movie, which is fine. So this is the next Ryan Johnson Star Wars movie, huh? I guess, man. Last Jedi was bullshit.

Anyway, everyone's at each other's. All these little pages that I like, everyone's, ah, it's this, it's that, and da-da-da-da-da-da. This isn't the way it should end and all that. All I have to say is if there's any of you that think that way, it's a fucking Halloween movie. Just enjoy it. Keep it in, yeah, keep it in context, right? We had 13 of them, which is cool. I don't count the Rob-Holl, the Rob Zombie ones in this original storyline.

I mean, those movies were what they were. Part 2 was bullshit. First one was all right. Okay. Yeah. Although they were a little more Halloween than this movie was. Maybe. It was just Rob Zombie.

I don't know what he has to call. Rob Zombie does his own thing. Trailer Trash. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Trailer Trash Halloween. There. That's exactly what it was.

That's what he was. I thought he was awesome as Michael Myers. But this has many different timelines. I'm looking at it right now. So there's basically three. We got the first timeline was the 78, 81, 88, 88, 89, and 95. Halloween 1, 2. return of Michael Myers,

revenge of Michael Myers, and then that bullshit, curse on Michael Myers. Both of those versions suck dick. The theatrical and the producers cut made no fucking sense. And that's the second timeline.

Halloween 1, 2, then H2O, which came out in 98, and then we got resurrection with bus to bus and Tiber Banks Fool in 2002. That movie's art. It is what it is. then the Rob Zombie ones

But with this new timeline The third timeline Halloween 78 Then we go to 2018 2021 and 2021 This series should have been done But all the Pandemic and everything

Through a wrench and everything But The first one I liked it I liked it for what it was It was cool Cool connection Direct sequel to the original

Halloween kills To me I love that one the most, but I wish they would have did that one in the end, with all the killing in it. This one... All the kills were actually on screen.

Yeah, this one was... Right. I mean, I watched it four times, and every time I came up with the same conclusion, it seems like they were... At first, I thought they were trying to... This is how we're going to continue this series.

Because, yeah, Jamie League did come out, say, though, this is it for me. I'm not coming back. but she said that before and came back for two other movies H2O and resurrection um so I was like I was I was not feeling what they were doing which I thought they were doing showing this new guy he's all crazy the incident that happened with him in the beginning of the film this is how he's going to carry and I'm like if that's what you're doing that's you're just ripping off a bunch of other movies that we've seen like that already.

Why do we need to see that again for the million of time? Where's Michael Myers? He doesn't come into this until like almost an hour end. Yeah. Because they're trying to build this story up. And to me, I think it was kind of a waste of time. Because I don't know what these guys thought when they were sitting down there writing it. Like, well, this is how we're going to end it.

But what are we going to do before it? All right, let's just kind of shoehorn this character in. and then give them the old switcheroo. And I was like, because I was not feeling what they were trying to do in the beginning. I was like, you're just, this is the red herring. I was like, okay, whatever. I mean, give me something that I've seen already.

Then we get from once Michael comes into play and all the way to the end, movie's said and done. I was like, all right, I liked the kills. I like it to there wasn't much but I like what we got. They had a couple of pretty creative kills in there. Yeah. Yeah.

I love what they did. Welding torts. No, I like the one at the radio station. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like the record. I like the fence one. That one was my favorite one.

But and then, and then we get what we get at the end. I can see why a lot of people were mad. I wasn't mad when I left the theater. I was more confused. Like, why were they doing this to do something else? Good way to put it. So I got home and I had to watch it again. So, all right.

Came to the same conclusion. Then a couple days later, I watched it again two more times. But with all that being said, I enjoy these Halloween movies for what they are. Do I like all of them? No. Right. And I don't care what anyone says, Halloween 3 is a fucking masterpiece. That movie is awesome.

Greed. again Rob Zombie his first one was cool I liked it it kind of stuck with the storyline I don't know what the hell he was trying to do with part two nothing against Tyler Maine I did like the old hillbilly hobo bearded Michael Myers I did like that you didn't like the white horse no I don't know what the hell that's symbolic Brian it was symbolic I don't know what the hell was going on in that movie but uh part four part five cool I like that that. They're cursed to Michael Myers when they brought in the Colter Thorn. Garbage. H-2-0. Cool. Jamie Lee's back. Right on.

Now we got Ladies' Love in it. Right on. We got Josh Ardnett and Michelle Watternuts. Oh, God. I forgot all about Hartnett. Michelle Williams. Yeah, I'm like right on. Right.

And then the way that ended, I thought that was it. But then we get resurrection. And the way they bring it back, I'm like, all right, that's believable. Mm-hmm. But then we get into the internet age and all that. Yeah. And reality TV and bust the bus. And I'm going to kick your ass karate style.

Okay. Whatever. But we did get a beautiful, what's her name? Starbuck, Katie Sackoff. Sure. A young version of her. So I take those movies for what they are. But with this new trilogy to end from 78,

I don't want. anymore unless they're going to just redo the whole thing but yeah the way it ended the way they ended there's no way around this they can say to bring something back so I'm like that that was it

and maybe that's what these writers want to do John Carpenter's going to take every check that they hand him sure for all these movies he said it himself I think he did the music for this yeah he did the music for these for these to him and his son and another guy I can't remember his name they did they did it these three films.

But all the other ones where he had nothing really anything to do with them except for one, two, and three. But he got checks for anything that had Halloween in it, even the Rob Zombie ones, even though I don't hate him for that. No, man, get your money. That's what it's about. Yeah? So, if this is it and we don't get any more, I mean, obviously Jamie Lee's not coming back,

cool, right on. But I, to me, it kind of seemed like they were. were running out of an idea on what to do. Because I was trying to think. Couldn't agree more, man. Because I was thinking what would I have done

after Halloween kills to lead into this one? I understand he can be in hiding because I don't, but then my question is how the hell did he get out of that house with all those cops there? Unless that was just shitty-ass police work. Just like the Firefly family, man.

Come on. They were shitty-ass police work. Just like the flashback in Halloween kills in the beginning. He just slowly walks away and turns that corner. Yeah. I'm like, come on. Man, what's going on in Haddonfield? Hey, where'd that dead guy go?

So. Kills all the firefighters and... I put that in the report. As a Halloween, just a part of this franchise, I was fine with it. I was happy. I just had more questions than, I got answers. And again,

I don't know. Did they run out of ideas? I want to say, yeah, but I don't know. We wouldn't know that until we actually talk to them and say, why did you do it this way? It almost sounded like they had a new idea that maybe didn't have anything to do

with Halloween and they just she wanted and they just mismatched it together. They had a Haddonfield movie idea. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. So, I mean, if they're going to keep this franchise going, I want them to go back to what they originally were going to do

and make it an anthology series. Just call Halloween and just give it some story. It's got nothing to do. That's what Season of the Witch was. Had nothing to do with Michael Myers and Lori Strode and all that. Michael Myers and Lori Stroder are in it, but it had nothing to

do with it. So everyone that says Michael Myers isn't in Halloween. He's in it. Watch it again. Anyway. But I just want to know what the hell they were thinking with the beginning of this film. I liked how it began. You may get a chance to ask him.

Maybe they'll be at Frank Mare. This could have been a new beginning to the Halloween movies. That's what I thought they were going to do. But the new killer, rolled it into the end of it. When we get into spoilers, we'll dive into it.

But overall, I mean, again, I'll buy this when it comes out. Steelbook, of course. Of course, I got all the other ones. I got the other ones. You'll have it right at your hands. Stillbo looks kind. Streaming, but you'll still buy it.

It's a nice orange. I'll get it. I mean, and the other version, 10, 20 versions that come out with it. I wish they would put these three films out in director's cuts, because I'm sure there's some stuff they didn't, they had to cut. Oh, God.

Yeah, I'm going to see the outtakes on this one. I think they blew their load in Halloween kills. I do, too. With all the kills that they had in that one. Well, well said, man. Well said. So, and then they ran out of ideas on, what are we going to do?

I'm sure they wrote the ending first And then, okay, now we got to fill in And so they picked up a completely different movie Yeah, so with that being said, I Did enjoy the film. I mean, I didn't leave the theater mad Like some people did when I was walking out of there. But I was like,

All right, let me watch it some more. And I kept coming up with the same conclusion on Why? Why did they do this? But, uh, oh, Overall, I enjoyed the film. I like it. Lance, you already give yours? Yeah, you said it sucks.

My score? Two on 10. Two on 10 is your score? Yeah, this is rough. It's rough. I'm going to give it a... I'm going to give it a seven, man. I actually really enjoyed it for what it was.

God damn, dude. What maybe did you see? Halloween ends. I completely understand that why people... were upset because it's a totally different movie than most Halloween movies. But if you look at it for just a movie,

it's the worst of the franchise in my, in my opinion. Worst, not even. Nah, much for Percy and Bustrains. Have you seen the curse of Michael Myers? I've seen them all. I've seen them all. Watch both versions. It was like 824 did a Halloween movie.

What? Yeah. This one? Yeah. I don't see that. Yeah. I love the music. I loved the...

Yeah, music was great. This is the year of the soundtrack. Brian and I've said it a hundred times. I loved the... The subtlety of this movie. Although it's not what Halloween is. Of grooming it. No, I know.

But it's not... It's definitely not what Halloween is. It doesn't belong in this franchise. And it definitely doesn't belong. as the last movie of this franchise. But it wasn't a terrible movie. Okay.

I think. Brian? What'd you give it? I gave to seven. Okay. I think a seven's fair. I'm gonna go with a seven. Wow.

I like... You guys. I know. We're crazy. Enjoy. I didn't hate it. But I like some of the ideas

that they, that they have. had in a movie, but it just where it dropped the ball from me, it wasn't a conclusion with what they were trying to do. So, but I think seven's fair, because I

enjoyed it more than I didn't, so. Did you enjoy those off-screen kills, Brian? Talking about the mayhem. The radio station was not off-screen. True. The one Ness brought up with the fence

and the truck, that wasn't off-screen. That was actually brutal because that one didn't happen right away. He kind of let her feel that one for a minute. Played with his food a little. And that opening scene, actually, I was not expecting that scene to happen with a little kid. That was actually pretty brutal, too. It kind of made me jump because I watched this at home and I had the volume up and I wasn't ready to hear the sound. and I kind of looked away for a second

and then it was just like, Badoon! I was like, was that the only one that saw in the theater? Yeah. I think so. But I think seven is fair.

All right. I would go up one more a little. I'll give it an eight. Wow. That's almost hell of good. That's almost hell of good. I enjoyed it.

I mean, after the fourth time, I'm like, all right. Because I really had to evaluate this one. if I just watched it the one time and then came on here, sure. It would have probably been like a six or something almost to the halfway point.

But watching it over and over and catching everything. But the things that I really loved about this these three films other than the little and nostalgic stuff they threw in it, the fonts to the Halloween title.

Yeah, sure, sure. That opening always gets me. The 8, the 2018 one, the font looked just like 78s. Yeah. Uh, the Halloween kills font looked just like Halloween two in 81. And this one, 2022 Halloween ends looked like 82's Halloween three. That's fun. I thought that was awesome.

That gave me chills when it came across the screen. So I was cool. And I did love the shout out to the little, uh, Silver Shamrock, uh, masks that they had in the first and the second one. So I assume Shilver Sharmarach is in this universe. But I didn't hate it

when I left the theater after the first time. So it was one of those ones that I didn't have to go to the theater. Would I go see it in the theater again? Maybe if somebody wanted to go. It didn't have Peacock. But I had to sit there and watch it again.

I'm thankful for a peacock that I was able to watch it three more times. So, but Yeah, eight. I settled with that. I was like, okay, okay.

But I'm still confused on what they were trying to do. So, but yeah, that's my score. Eight. Spoilers? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Spoilers. All right. I'll jump right in. If they would have just went with the whole aspect of, this is a fucking bad place. There's a fucking energy there.

There's something about Haddonfield because they kind of introduced that idea in the beginning when they were showing all the different people getting murdered or having accidents or something, and Lori would show up kind of. I thought they were going to say, this is he Michael's been gone for a while but this is him

coming back or he's back in town he's getting closer because all this bad shit's happening again all this bad energy is around that's what I thought they were going with when they went with the Corey aspect of him I guess looking evil in the eye and

transferring some kind of evil energy I was like okay cool but then they killed him off and I was just kind of like, well, what was the fucking point? Yeah. That's where I thought they kind of ran out of ideas or they didn't know exactly what to do. Because they made you think that it was going to be, he was going to be the next one to take the mantle, to take the mask. Because when he went and beat up Michael Myers and took the mask, I was like, hmm, okay.

He just killed all these other people on this last one. And four years later, he doesn't have any more strength. Well, I was like, all right. My theory about that is going back to the line when they said, the more he kills, the more he transcends. Yeah. I felt like maybe because he hadn't killed anybody and he was just living in the sewer, like, I guess his whatever power he had was kind of dwindling or whatever. Yeah. Because he had that, he had that scene when he killed, when he, there was that scene when Michael killed somebody and he was kind of like not powering.

up, but he kind of felt like he had some energy back into him or something. Yeah, he looked like less dilapidated with each kill. Like he was coming back to life. He should have had all the strength in the world. Because he killed

like 30 people in the last one. Yeah, you'd hope so. He also got like riddled with bullets and shit. And he was just like sitting in the sewer licking his wounds. That's one thing I don't really, I still don't get. I'm glad they didn't try to explain it either on how he was so super human.

I understand he was just crazy and he went on a murdering spree, but I didn't want the explanations on why he can do what he can do. Well, because he was, especially in the last one, they sort of let you know that he was just evil incarnate. He wasn't just a person. you need to know. Yeah. Yeah. And he was obviously transferring his shit to this guy who was just being influenced by evil.

And I think that was a cool aspect to it. But yeah, I kind of was upset that they killed off the new guy at the end. I'm not mad that they grinded up Michael Michael. carry it forward, right? Why did they

kill him? That's what I thought they were doing. But I wasn't really liking that. Like, this is what you're going to do? But it was a... Right. It was a dumb reason because he kills himself to make Lori look bad. But that lasted for 10 minutes.

Yeah. That was... And why did you guys score this so high then? I mean, I'm hearing a bunch of talk about how stupid the script is. Because I'm judging it from... I'm watching this and going back and looking at the franchise as a whole. Like Lance, I totally disagree that this was the worst in the franchise. Oh, 100%. Not even.

Maybe I need to go rewatch all of them. I'm not a huge talent. I mean, well, one in three are classics, right? One and three are classics. What's the person Michael Myers? Is it that bad? Yes, watch the theatrical cut and the producers cut. Watch those.

I'll do that. And then watch, that's my homework. Then watch resurrection. Watch resurrection and then watch. I like resurrection though. Watch Rob Zombies for Halloween 2. I like the first zombie. No.

Watch the second one. Watch the second one. Yeah, the white horse. Sherry moon zombie on the white horse. A lot of these classic, you know, yeah, killers are like, you know, they get into the weeds on some of the movies. I know, man.

And I think this... They didn't just keep them mysterious, you know. Yeah. Well, and this one was, I think, trying to be a little more elevated than it probably needed to be. Could be, yeah. For what the movie was supposed to be. And I can definitely understand that criticism because I feel like this didn't belong in the Halloween universe.

But having said that, it was a pretty fucking good Halloween movie, man. Now that I'm really... Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, like the whole... like build up to everything and and it like if this was if this was a Halloween reboot yeah instead of the last Halloween movie sure I think we'd all be passing the torch so to speak what what I now thinking about it what I think probably went wrong is they filmed

Halloween kills and Halloween ends together okay yeah I think they're really good back to back. And maybe another movie that wasn't, because it just, it feels like it was a different script than a Halloween movie. And they just were like, hey, let's chew horn Halloween into this. Yeah, because they, like you said, Phil, they had the ending. But I don't think anything ahead of that, they didn't have fleshed out. Yeah. They kind of threw in this.

Right. Oh, we'll introduce a new killer, but he's not going to be the new killer. Right. Yeah. That's what I thought they were trying to do since this... I did too. Okay, Halloween ends. Basically, it's going to end for Laurie's show,

is going to end for Michael Myers. But we start, we were developing this new character. And he's going to take forward. Yeah, but he killed himself. He's done now. Yeah, so that's what I didn't understand. Yeah, but he was still alive after he killed himself. Wow.

He just grazed his temple, maybe, huh? Well, no, I mean, he stabbed. himself in the neck pretty fucking good. I mean, he should have been dead. He should have been dead about six times over. But then like he still came back to life when Michael Myers popped up and then Michael Myers snap. Well, that evil energy, man.

Yeah. And see, what they should have had was maybe that. Maybe he pulls a chucky. Maybe that energy that was in, in Corey transferred to somebody else. Yeah. Okay. Or maybe. I don't want that.

I don't know. I'm trying to do the. I'm trying to. They will, Nass. Don't see Jason goes to hell with demons jumping bodies. I'm trying to make something happen in this movie, Nas. That maybe as he's killing, he's spreading this bad energy, and there's more people popping up killing.

That kid was a good Michael Myers, man. I took it, I took it that he... He'd be more of a Jeffrey Dahmer. He just snapped. He was fine in the beginning until that little asshole kid got killed. The band bully? Yeah, no. The little kid in the beginning of the movie that fell from the third floor.

Oh, yeah. Which was kind of his own fault. That was totally his fault. For the kid to be in the room across the hall from the stairs and still fall down and die. Well, that's just that kid take a flying leap or what? Design. Well, he kicked the door open and it threw him back. So, but I don't know how hard he kicked.

That was fucking stupid. That was silly, silly, silly, silly. terrible movie two on 10 it took you guys are gonna talk me down

I'm glad I'm glad I'm going to one and a half that gave him the reason to be how he was

other than everyone thought he was a murderer he just he wasn't right in the head

because they just kept torturing him right and for how how many years did that go

by and then and then he finally snapped yeah his family life so I mean his

his mother Brian yeah kissing him on the mouth. Yeah, that was weird. That's pretty weird. So, I mean, that was the reason why he snapped because even when...

They turned him into a school shooter. Yeah, when they were talking... He was bullied. Well... Because everyone just assumed he murdered that kid and he didn't. It was a total accident. So he just couldn't take it.

Some people can't take that. Maybe we can be cool with it and just like, all right, fuck everyone. But he... It got. to him and it snapped. It was, it got to a mental state where he just couldn't handle it anymore because when the father of the son that got killed when he was talking to them and he goes, yeah, when I saw him, I was going to pick him up and just, he seemed like he was, he was willing

to forgive him. Yeah, he knew it was an accident. I like that. I like the scene with the mom though in the bar, how she just was like, you don't, you don't, you don't belong here. You don't get to enjoy yourself. Yep, yep. Well, and that sounds like a reasonable thing that a mom would say, man. I would say it too. But then I like

the contrast. I mean, I wouldn't. I like the contrast. Like, Nesb's dad was a little bit more forgiven. It was an accident and he was going to express that to him, but then he's seen his eyes and he was like, the kid they used to borrow line,

that wasn't the guy that killed the son. This guy is somebody. else. It pushed him over the edge to where he just figured he didn't have anything else to live for. And I'm going to start taking my anger out on people.

That's why he took it out on those four because they were the main ones that were fucking with them. That's why they got it first. And I was the girls, did they really bully him? No, but they were a part of it. They kind of

went along with their boyfriends or whoever rule they were. Yeah, like I wasn't like you felt a little bit of sympathy from them, but I wasn't mad that they... I didn't. That girl that got ran down with the truck. She got what she did.

She had it coming. Yeah. Yeah, when you were there, you took out that girl and it slacks crushed her head with a fence. She thought when they threw him over the bridge that they killed him. And you're just going to, you're just going to not say nothing and jump in the car.

thing that. Yeah, just take off. No, you do, you get run down by a towing truck. That's what you get and you get your head stomped on.

I wish I would have showed that one mullet kid get the drumstick in his eye. I would have liked to have seen that. Yeah. Maybe there's going to be a director's cut. Yeah, you know?

Unrated cut on a Blu-ray. That'd be great. So, I mean, that was his reasoning for snapping. But as far as him well he Michael Myers

grabbed him and pulled him into the sewer see yeah just like Pennywise now that I'm thinking if this would

have all taken place in Halloween kills and then Corey was the one that rescued Michael at the end and dragged him to the sewer that would have made

more sense more than all of this stuff happened in the final how do we know he was probably right how do we know he wasn't because Corey

was too busy killing kids that he was killing kids. Yeah, he didn't know. And, like... And they said it took place a year after.

Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, everything was fucked up because of COVID, so you never know what year, which movie was or whatever. They kind of had to move things around. This was a year after...

Yeah, when he killed the little kid, that was a year after the events. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2019. It said that on the screen. This was four years after, Halloween kids. And that's what I was talking about about like fleshed out. Like you know more backstory from this one guy from one movie than you do about Michael Myers, period. I know.

I know. So, but that's what they were trying to do. They were trying to get the audience to think what, all right, well, we're killing off Michael. So he's going to be the guy to carry the torch. Yeah. And it didn't happen. No, because I was thinking, really this guy? This fucking struck. If that's the way they were going to go and that's the way it went. I wouldn't have bought it. I probably would have hated this movie. All right. But I was kind of like, all right. But then because then when he gets killed at the end when Michael snaps his neck,

then I'm like, why did we invest all this time, the first half of the movie for you just to kill him off? To make us think that he was going to come up with. So that's why I'm positive that they, this is how we're going to end it. now what are we going to do? And then now let's write back. Yeah, now what are we going to do? Well, but maybe now that they've already fleshed him out yeah. I mean

they didn't they didn't grind up his body. He's dead. He had that big glass in his throat and he snapped his I know what they did. I know what they did. What they did, Brian? You get it figured out? I don't know. They made me come back. They pet cemetery

remake the shit. How they tried to make you think one thing was going to happen and then they last second changed something. It'd be different if he'd be different if he had a mask on and we didn't know that was him. All right.

I could buy that, but no. Speaking of the mask, did Michael Myers, did the hair have a part in it? Like he was combing his hair? Maybe the flames got it. I don't know. Right. I liked it. They did show more.

They did show more Michael. We didn't actually get a full-on front view, but I like that they showed them. Yeah. And all that. So, but I mean, but once he started getting into action and killing everyone, I thought that was cool. And up to the end and how basically Lori just finally got to do, well, we thought she was going to be

the badass killer in the first one. Not in the first movie, but in 2018. Yeah. So, I was like, all right, whatever. We'll see what's going on. It just had very little to do with the rest of the movie. Yeah. So, but, I mean, in the end, when they finally... There's a lot of disjointed stuff in here. I thought that didn't mesh together very well.

I mean, that's what I would like to talk to, to these writers and explain to me on why you did this story. And... Well, maybe we'll see him. Maybe, Ness, you go everywhere. You'll probably run into him, dude. You'll be on a flight with them. Those guys, I don't know. I mean, John Cobbreder, he just did the music.

He didn't have nothing to do with the storyline. Well, and it's just take out the context that this is the last movie, and it's pretty fucking good movie. The problem is that it's supposed to be the last movie in the franchise. Yeah, she horned into the... Which I didn't buy when they told it to me originally, but I definitely don't buy it now. They're always going to make money, right? I think it's just the end of Lori Strode and Michael Myers.

Yeah. Lori can go. I like that. That's where you can go walk off into the sunset. Michael, I don't know what they did with his remains. She's going to go do some more next Eva ads and whatever they did. What was that yogurt? Oh, no, not yoke.

It helps the shit right. Yeah, that one. But, I mean, I liked what they did. All right. Okay, this is official. He's dead. They took his mask. scoff so they knew it was him

and then pushed him into those little grinder things and that was pretty brutal the full fargo right yeah because I liked how they were like well it seemed like some people well why can't we arrest them and and try him no I'll just give him another reason to break out

we're doing it differently tonight there's some people that need to be removed from society yeah I'm about to say arrest the person for suggesting you just arrest Michael Myers yeah well you go sit in jail. So they finally, I liked how the police chief and everybody was like,

F it, let's do it to end this for sure. Because they were living with this since 78. Yeah, and they did. Yeah, and then they just grounded them up. Grounded up an 80-year-old guy. Yeah, so he was, you got to do what you got to do. Hey, he's not. He's retired. I don't want them to make another one

and say, well, that night when he's, his body, whoever was sweeping up the body parts. Now stop it. His spirit went, I don't want, this, it's over. Forget it. It was just a homeless guy. See a little. We'll see what's next.

See a little white light travel to another body. No, I don't want to know white horse writing up. Early 90s style. I don't want any of that. Michael Myers is dead. So let's move on. All right. Long live Michael Myers.

It is. All right. We got to move on. Don't come on later and say, oh, he had a love child with somebody. No, I don't want to do. It's over with. Jesus Christ.

Maybe that's where the kid came from. That's the granddaughter is probably going to be pregnant in the next movie. So what do you guys have coming up on wrestling and action, guys? Action is taking a break until November. Wrestling, we got to do wrestling returns. What is the Extreme rules? Extreme rules Only on the cock, right?

We're like a few weeks late But we'll eventually get to it All right But Brian and I've been doing some 31 days of horror over for East Society So go listen to those I'm a little behind Just the

Life and the incident with my grandson But other than that man We're Yeah You had an emergency I don't want to blame him for that It was When I went to that

concert that kind of threw a wrench in my time because I was gone for two days. That's a big investment for those music festivals. That takes a lot out of you. And if those of you that went to Aftershock in Sacramento, I'm never going again if it's in that heat because I almost dropped. Welcome to the 21st century now. I had to go. My old ass had to go sit in the medical tent and cool off because I was about to drop, dude. Been there done that.

Yeah, go listen to everything we got up so far with 31 days of horror for East Society. All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us at this point. Just go to The Horror Returns at gmail.com with an email or Thehorrorreturns.com for our website. Brian, I'm a little off, man. What's next week? Are we going retro or what?

Yes, we are. VHS 94 and VHS 99. Very nice. And those can be found Shutter. All right, Naz, until the whore returns again. Go buy a T-shirt on T-Public from them and us. So until then, party on and good night.