The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #335: A Salute To Shudder Part 2 - V/H/S/94 (2021) & V/H/S/99 (2022)

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

Pedro Nunez from The Kayfabulous Lucha Bros joins us to talk some SHUDDER found footage. Cool of the Week includes The Walking Dead, Interview With the Vampire, AHS New York, and The Retaliators. The podcast spotlight shines on The Hounds of Horror. And we get feedback from Marcus Wilturner, Daeron Wilson, Jack Falvey IV, and Andrew Huff. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot Spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. One and all to the horror returns, I'm Lance. And with me, as always, my co-host, Brian, Phillip and Nez, I think they're probably going to pop in later. They got stuff going on, but we're going to make it work.

But tonight we got with us our other host, he who does not get a smoking jacket, because technically you're not a guest. You're part of the show anyway. So you're going to miss out on that one. Pedro, good to have you back, man. What's up with KFAB? Hey, greetings and salutations.

I'm just like always. I'm always so happy to be here. KFabs are wrong. We'll talk about a little later on. But, you know, I wanted to start off by saying that, you know, I'm a fan of the show. I know I'm a frequent guest. but I'm also a fan.

And from time to time, I'll listen to shows and, you know, somebody will, and listener feedback, you know, they'll say something like, oh, I'm glad Pedro was on because he makes me laugh and this or that. So I really appreciate that. So I'm just happy that, you know, people get a kick out of me being on the show because I love doing it. So this is one of my highlights of the week. And I also want to on the air say thank you to everybody, all the family here, for kind of switching up their schedule so I could be on.

So yeah, no, I'm ready to talk horror, man. It's the month to do it. So let's do it. Nice, nice. Well, we're all here, so you know how the show starts at, Pedro. And, you know, technically you're the guest, so you go first. What's your cool of the week? There's a couple of things, actually.

I guess I'll start with I finish watching The Walking Dead. I caught up. Oh, no. We're the only ones left. I am current. Yeah, me. I think it's just me and you, right? Lenz, that are on board. And Steve and Loveland.

Okay. And so I did catch up. I will say that the last five episodes of the 10th season were a complete waste of time. It was such a con, you know, and you could see where they saved money because it was literally like one or two characters per episode in like in a couple of places. But I will see this. I will say this. Okay. The 11th season ain't too bad.

I really enjoy it. I really do like the whole class system that the Commonwealth introduced. You know, that's something new. That's something that we hadn't seen. Now, I will say that you're keeping up with it, right, Lance? I'm two episodes in, so I'm a little bit. Okay, so I'm not going to spoil anything. Then never mind. Because I was going to say, yeah, it's like kind of nose diving back into the mustache trolling, you know, villainish nature of the show. that's, you know, the way it's been before. And of course, of course, the bad guy's name is Lance, right?

But he's not from Texas. Who the fuck knows where he's from? That's right. And so, no, I'm enjoying. All in all, I'm enjoying it. It's not a chore to watch. I'm looking forward to the ending. I'm not trying to get myself too jazz.

I'm not saying, oh, we're going to see Rick Grimes there at the end. I know they have their plants. And the only thing that I don't want, and I don't know if I'm going to get this or not. I don't want the final episode to be a big commercial for the new series that are going to come out there. All 10 of them that they're going to have or whatever. Yeah, that would be a mass, wouldn't it? No, yeah, I do want to get a sense of closure. And I think we're going to get that, because I mean, I know the showrunner has been very, very adamant that, you know, we're going to get closure. This series is over and this or that. But they're also carnie comments

sometimes in that show, and they'll do shit that, you know, it's kind of discons. It's kind of guys is a commercial for the, for the new series that are going to start. So we'll see. We'll see. Sure. Sure. I did check out a couple of new movies that came out, new horror movies. One of them was called Slares with Thomas Jane. Anytime Thomas Jane does anything I watch, because I'm a huge fan of that guy. Okay. I think he's charismatic. It's all heck. You know, he always has that kind of like leading man quality to him. And this was, you know, I saw the poster or the one sheet or whatever you want to call it. on the internet. We don't see posters for a video on the mansion anymore.

And it looked pretty interesting. You know, you see, you see the vampire slairs there. You know, you see the vampires there. And I'm thinking this is going to be one of those kind of like a vampire and the vampire hunters kind of deal. But it was more of a comedy. You know, it was more of a kind of like a straight up comedy. So I was kind of led down in that sense. But it was still a good time. Now, a movie that I really, really liked. It's a movie called the retaliators. Now, this one got a minor theatrical run. And this one's fucking awesome. I won't say too much about it because it's very new and I want people to check it out. But it's, remember that one movie that Corinne Tarantino kind of jacked off

all over called Big Bad Wolves? No, that. Yeah, the Israeli movie. Yes. I believe so, yes. And so that's kind of like the same setup here. It's about this pastor who they kill his daughter. And he's kind of searching and looking for revenge and seeing who did it and seeing if his daughter is still alive. And at the same time, you see kind of like this underbelly of a city, kind of like this mob, you know, storyline. Kind of like, that's kind of the B story. And then they merge. And then in the third act, it goes completely bonkers.

Like, it just like full on horror. Like the first half, it's very much kind of like a crime thriller, and then it just goes full on horror. And it was great. I thought it was very original. And so people need to check it out. I think it's on video on demand now. So, you know. Isn't it made by a musician or some musicians or something?

Well, they're on there. Tommy Lee plays a he's a bartender in that movie. No. The Tommy Lee from Motley Crew? Yes, that guy. You can tell that the producers probably called in a couple favorites Because you got you got you got guys picking their head in for a couple minutes And they they dip out so

But it's it's a good time it the third act was just I was just all I was like holy shit And it's gory and it has a lot of action Good good picture I was not expecting that The retaliate is all right I'll check it out good movie And I believe, well, that's where I'll stop right there because, you know, I saw a bunch of other shit. But I did get to see that movie Piggy, which is a Spanish movie. Brian, Brian, you saw that one. Yeah, talk about it on the next 31 recap.

Yeah, yeah. It was okay. I was, it was, it was not what I, I thought the storyline was pretty original. I don't think this is a spoiler. I'll just say that, you know, there's this, you know, heavy set girl that, gets bullied and there's this serial killer that starts to kind of kill all the people that bully her and so the you know she's kind of conflicted you know should I should I because she sees it she knows what's going on right so she's like should I should I should I help him let him do what he's doing

because these people deserve what they get and I'll just leave it at that because then it takes some twist and turn okay it was it was it was it's more of a drama I would say than it is like Because the way the picture shows, it goes, it's more, you would think it's more about this girl that just gets bullied and then she just goes bad shit at the end. There's some of that, but it's more of a dramatic piece. But I had a good time with it. It was okay. So that's pretty much it. That's where, I mean, I've seen a bunch of them because it is October, but we don't have time for that.

So, yeah, so I've had a good time. I've seen some good shit. I've seen some bad shit. Obviously, you know, Halloween ends was fucking the drizzling shits. I mean, in my opinion, I guess I got to say that because people get upset now. You're not the only one. Yeah, yeah. And you know what?

Here's the deal. Like, I did send a message to Ness, right? I was like, I was going to cut a promo on him because I was listening to last week's show. Uh-huh. And Ness starts the, he, next starts his part of the conversation by saying, it's just a Halloween movie. Everybody chill the fuck out. Okay. And then he spends the next 30 minutes getting very passionate about his point of view.

And I'm like, dude, you literally just said not to do. And then he goes around and does it, right? But even then, like, even then, like, that's one thing about the Internet that really, there's a thousand things that upset me up. That's why I don't live on it. One of the things is that when you say stuff like that, right? Because these kind of conversations, this podcast, you know, thousands of other podcasts, we, the way that we get interaction and engagement

is to talk about these niche movies, right? And to be passionate about them. That's literally the point of these podcasts. So to go out and say, it's just a Halloween movie, just chill the fuck out. Like, you're invalidating the entire purpose of this outlet.

And so it's like, well, you know, it's kind of unfair, right? Because it's just a lazy way to say this kind of art deserves conversation and this kind of art doesn't deserve conversation. And that's not fair because Halloween one is a classic. And it's a legitimate piece of film art, right?

So if you follow that, if you follow that trajectory, like, every, every Halloween should have engagement and conversation. And at the end of the day, Halloween ends was a piece of shit. I mean, now, here's a deal. I'll have somebody saying, oh, I love that. What the fuck this or that? We need to, there is certain criteria. Okay.

As far as what makes a good, you know, I know everything's subjective, especially now where nobody wants to be wrong. That's a whole other conversation. Yeah. But everything is subjective. So here's the deal. Like if I get a guitar and I go to Lance's house and I say, hey, Lance, here's my new piece of music.

I want you to like it. I'm not going to ask you if you like it. I want you to like it. And then I just start strumming the guitar and all you hear is noise because I'm not even, I'm not even pressing any keys, right? That's just noise. I could say all day long that that's a piece of music. But it's literally, if I'm just strumming a guitar, it's just noise, all right?

And there is a criteria to make a good movie, just as there is a criteria to make good music, right? There is mathematical formulas. And so that's what we have a three-act structure. All these little fucking geeky, scientific ways of making good art, it's there for that reason. So this fucking guy, and I'm not going to get into it because you guys have all heard it before. It's been out for a week, whatever. But how the fuck do you like completely ignore? Not only the universe that was set before you,

but the universe that you created, you created that, especially with, especially with kills. Okay. And you go ahead and you fucking introduce new things that nobody had ever heard about, right? Um,

like this idea that fucking all of a sudden Michael Myers could like translate or fucking, you know, give his powers to this other nerd, Cory Coney. He's not even a, nerd. He kills the other nerds. Don't get me starting on this marching band ordeal. And then, um, you know, the, the best part of that movie was the first five minutes where that,

where the kid falls into the empty pool. Well, that's the best part of that movie. I mean, you got, you got Ari Oster and then you got Uwey Bowl. And then you got everybody in between. And then you got David Gordon Green, who's like the offspring of both of them. And it just depends where he's going to go. Um, so, so no, yeah, I was, I was very upset by that movie. Not so much because, again, it's not about like it was good or it was bad. It was just, you, you're not playing fair, dude. It was off-putting for you, huh? Well, he wasn't playing fair with his audience, you know? And that's another thing. Like, what's up with this new trend of like all these fucking creators and filmmakers saying, well, it might piss off the audience. But who the fuck

are you making it for then? Like, you know, are you making it for yourself, for your reflection in the mirror for that mouse in your pocket? Who are you making these movies for? You know, that, I don't understand that. So that was my fucking uncool of the week because it's, it's been six days since I've seen and not seven, so it's still part of this week. Yeah, still part of the week. And so, yeah, fuck that movie. And, yeah.

I'm not going to get spoilers because it's too early. And it's too early not only since the movie came up, but on this show. So let's just say that it was fucked up. And we need to start accepting that if you fucking have a horrible movie, own it. You know why? Because research says that if you come to terms with your failures, you're going to do better next time. Well, next up, he's got the Exorcist. So what could go wrong? It's going to happen there. I can't even imagine.

And I know it's going to be from the perspective of, like, Reagan's mom from what I understand, right? That's what he was saying in the interviews. I don't even know, Brian, do you? Nope. Ryan is done with all this shit. I don't blame them. Okay. Anyway, so we're done with that.

So I have one uncool of the week I just talked about and I had a bunch of cool of the week. All right. That's good, man. You want to jump in, Brian? Yeah, anything outside, the only thing outside of 31 I've seen,

I saw cut the first episode of American Horror Story, New York City. Oh, New York City? Okay. Yeah, I'm going to give it another episode, but right now I'm not really feeling it. It doesn't really feel like a horror series.

it kind of feels like more of a police procedural, true crime detective. And I just, I don't know. And I, I think as far as like legacy actors that been on the show, the only one I recognize is... There are legacy actors or not? The only one I've seen was, what's his name,

Zachary Quinto? Hmm. Oh, man. Yeah. The other ones tend to show up in the, they'll have cameos or something. Yeah. You think so? You think Sarah Paulson will show up at some point?

I don't think she's in this season. They've all kind of blown up a little bit. I mean, you have the Dahmer kid. He's doing a fake Quicksilver and he's Dahmer and who knows what other things, but he's busy. What's Finn Whitlock doing? Is he doing anything? Because he's part of that crew. Yeah, I see him.

pop up and shows all the time. Yeah. Yeah, he's become a pretty big little star. He does a lot of, like, TV shows, like the kind of my wife watches, like dramas. Yeah. Romantic dramas and stuff like that. Yeah, so he's got his crew of guys.

He was the one who played dandy, right, in the... In the what? I think it was the... He played dandy in the Freak Show series, right? Yes. And he completely goes bonkers in the third act of that show in the last three episodes. Yes. Oh, that guy.

He stills the show in that one season. But I mean, for what it was, it wasn't a bad first episode. It just, I just kind of feel like it's going to end up going a little away from the whole horror aspect of the show and go into more like a true crime. Oh, I hope not, man. Maybe Ryan Murphy... Hopefully it'll find it. Maybe Ryan Murphy got confused because he has American crime stories and he has got American horror stories. And he went into through the wrong door.

And he's thinking, what the fuck? What am I doing here? So that's probably what happened. Right. Yeah. So I'm going to give it a... My rule is I usually give a show like at least three episodes. So...

Okay. Yeah. Plenty of time to write the ship, right? Yeah. But I got plenty to talk about when we do our 31 recap. Nice. Okay. All right.

My cool of the week, I'm pretty impressed with, even though it does take place about 40 or 50 years after the timeline in the actual books. Somebody pointed that out in our notes. I forgot who it was, but said they didn't know why they were going to do interview with a vampire taking place in like 1910 instead of 1840. But so far I'm enjoying it, man. Interview with the vampire, I like the choice of actors. They definitely don't hold back on the gore. They don't hold back on the sex and the nudity. So it's very Anne Rice.

Lots of the dialogue in it, but well-placed and well-written dialogue. And, again, they don't hold back. I would say that Lestad is. just as cruel as he is as he is in the books. I was going to ask you, like, when I watched, when the character that plays Louis, when he first talked, didn't you kind of feel like he was doing, kind of the way he delivered his lines,

kind of a Brad Pitt, kind of. Yeah, maybe a little bit, man. I don't know, man, his voice, to me, his voice kind of reminded me a little. little bit of, oh man, like when I close my eyes and listened to his voice, I was just thinking of, ah, fuck. See, I can't even think of the actor's name now, but he, he sounded a lot to me like Denzel. He sounded a lot to me like Denzel. Like if I closed my eyes and listened to him, he kind of had that same cadence that Denzel has like in a lot of his, his true crime roles and

his horror roles and stuff like that he does. Was that his background in the book? Basically, like a pimp? Yeah, well, somewhat. Not really. Nah, it was because see, this takes place in the early 1900s

in Storyville, which is like a neighborhood near the French quarter in New Orleans, but it's kind of like the seedier part of New Orleans. It's just to the north, like near Frenchman Street and all that. So I can see why they did it, because it's a pretty cool part of the city to focus on.

But when you read the book, it took place about 50 years before that. So, you know, a little bit different timeline, but I'm digging it so far. I think the guy who plays the Stodd is absolutely fucking perfect. Because he's the perfect, he's just seductive enough that you kind of want to get close to him. And then once you get close to him, he's evil and cruel enough that, But like that one cop when he just punched his fist his fist right through his head. Yeah. And splattered his brains everywhere.

I like the scenes where he's having conversations while he's having conversations. Yeah, yeah, because he can speak to him telepathically. Yeah. Which is right out of the book. So it's very close to the book, just a different timeline, which I'd like to see where they go from here. But have you watched it any yet, Pedro? No, I haven't gone to it yet. Yeah, it's well, it's well done, man.

very expensively made show and a really good friend of the show, Jeff Pope, who we've talked to before several times, and I message with quite a bit. He has a pretty big role in the show, so that's cool. Always good seeing a buddy in the show. And in the first episode, they mentioned the Mayfair, which is, which that show starts in January. Well, and they will come together, because if it's going to be true to the books, they end up intermarrying, and the vampires and the witches, you know, kind of all form a unified front, especially as they get into like the late 20th century and early 21st century. So we'll see how far they take it, but I'm enjoying it so far.

I'm a couple episodes in, so that's my cool of the week. So it seems like they have, I mean, they have the material there, you know, for, for... Oh, big time. Yeah, big seasons. Well, how many episodes is this going? I think it's eight episodes. in the first season, but I know it's already been renewed for a second, so I don't know if they're going to follow the books or veer off,

but I do know that there's a ton of material, and I also know that Anne Rice's son is going to continue writing some of the books. So this could go on forever. This could be the next Walking Dead, Pedro. I hope not, but it could be. Yeah. So, Brian, we got any horror headlines, man? Yeah, we're going to start with the Texas Frightmare guest update.

you guys have been talking about the Walking Dead well David Morrissey the governor is going to be there okay let's see Barbara Steel none of us start jumping up and down too fast there Pedro Barbara Steel

known for a Black Sunday and Castle of Blood that excites me a little more that excites me a little more she's still beautiful man I don't know how old she is, but she's still gorgeous. The Wishmaster himself, Andrew Divoff, is going to be there. Okay.

And looking at these next guests, it looks like they might be having a Twin Peaks panel. Because they have... Jack will love that. Ray Weiss. Andrew Robinson. Not Andrew Robinson. Andrew Robinson will be there, but he wasn't in... Twin Peaks.

Okay. I don't have the act. There was a bunch of people that was supposed to be from Twin Peaks. I was going to be there from the movie Prey that just recently came out, Dakota Beavers. And Dane Delagro who played the Predator.

Not Dane DeHun. You teased me there, Brian. You teased me. I don't know. I don't know if that's a tease. Is there B&B on that one? Damien Leone and David Howard Thornton are there going to be there, of course. Sam himself, Quinn Lord, from Trick-a-Tree. Okay. Well, I can have them autograph by tattoo.

I have a Sam tattoo, so we'll see if maybe we can get the tattoo artist to set us up and I get a permanent autograph of his signature right into the tattoo, Pedro. You know what? I did want to say something. You know, I'm very happy for the, just for all the creators of Terrifier and that whole franchise, because it really is the little engine that could. I mean, this movie, oh, yeah. Even like a month ago, it was just, you know, it just got a standard theatrical release. And even that in itself is hard to get now with all the, uh, the IPs that are dominating theater chains nowadays.

And, you know, it did good. I mean, I was their opening day to, you know, support it. And, you know, that two and a half hour runtime scared me a little bit, but I didn't feel it a little bit. You know, it's a great time if you go in there with an open mind and don't go in there all snobby thinking, why isn't this over after 90 minutes? But, you know, it's great, great time. And just seeing all the movies, all the horror films that are there. You know, they all kind of snuck up on us.

You know, you have, you have parole, you have smile. You have the aforementioned Terror FIRE too. I mean, there's so many, there's so many good movies that you could go and support. right now. Barbarian. Barbarian still there. Yeah, and so that's probably my number one of the year, by the way, so far. Yeah. It's up there for me. Sure. And we need to support these movies not only because we're horror fans. I mean, everybody has listened to this as a horror fan, but also because we want to make room

for like new voices, because again, you go through all these showing rooms, and they're all dominated by IPs, right? They're all dominated by the marble films, by anything that any sequel, anything that's a safe bet is all that our studios are doing now. So we really need to support these films. So we'll get more of them in the theater, which is for a lot of horror movies, that's the best place to see them because you get to feel the vibes and the energy of all the other people, especially if it's a really good horror movie. Like I thought Smile was really good.

Oh, yeah. You know, you feel that intensity. You know, yeah. And so, yeah, no, I'm just very glad and happy that we got that this year because this is very unusual, but we're just going to accept it. go with it. Yeah. Maybe this is a sign of the future, man. Sign of things to come. Hopefully. Hopefully. All right. You guys mentioned Barbarian. Well, Barbarian is coming to HBO on Max.

Probably by the time you hear this, October 25th. Jordan Peel's Nope. We'll be streaming on Peacock, November 18th. All right. Like I said, I've already bought it. So I don't mind putting some money in Jordan Peel's pockets at all, man. He deserves it. Yeah, I went to a Halloween horror nights a couple days ago here in the Universal Studios, and I got to walk through the set, because they have the set there of the Jupiter, what's it called again, Jupiter something. No. It's amazing.

It's like you're in there and you're like, holy shit. Oh, that's got to be spooky, dude. No, it was. And then there's the part where you're walking and they turn off all the lights, like, you know, like the, whatever, the creature's about to do its thing. Right, right. And what's cool about this particularly is far of the Drapers claim. Jeepers claim.

Yeah, Jupier's claim, yes. And the guy from the walking dead was not there, unfortunately, but that would have been the full meal there. No, but they also had, because it was themed after all his films, you know, so they had some props from us. Nice. And they had some props from Get Out. So it was cool. It was a cool thing. All right.

a little bit of TV news this is for the well I don't know if we have younger listeners but for our listeners that have kids that are trying to introduce them to horror Rachel Harris and Justin Long are going to star in a new live action

R. L. Stein Goosepump series on Disney Plus. Oh that's cool. All right, but is Justin Long going to play a walrus or what? I don't know He might come back for the sequel To what was it

Tusk Oh yeah that's right Jesus I did just saw I did just saw Clerks 3 And he's in there so he's Oh is he? I almost watched that the other night I'll catch it this week yeah

Was he his one character Randy Saint Whatever his name? No no he was playing another guy He was playing on the side character It wasn't a podcast or one whatever he was in that movie. Okay.

We brought up Smile a little bit earlier. Officially crossed $100 million worldwide. Awesome. Now we're ready for Smile again or smiles. It all depends where they decide to go with the next one. Or they smile. Sure. Sure.

I think now that you mentioned it, it kind of sounds like maybe smiles. I like that. I really aren't it. Remember, they have to find a clever way to put the two in there. So it would be like a. like a reversed ass or something. Yeah, kind of like faces off. Kind of like this movie I'm about to bring up, Megan,

where the E is a three. Oh, that's right. After the response of the trailer, the studio has bumped up the release from January 13th of January 6th. Yeah, that trailer went viral big time. Everybody was talking about it. All right. The Conjuring 4 is officially in development, which is no surprise, but it would probably anger Philip to know that James Wan is only producing.

Producing it, yeah. And we're going to finish off with some David Howard Thornton news. We talked about the trailer for Winnie the Pooh Blood, was Blood and Honey. Well, they're doing a Grinch-inspired movie called The Mean One. David Howard Thornton will play The Mean One. Lance just bought his ticket right now And you can't even do that yet So I don't know how he did it, but he did it

All right, yeah, I'm in there With Winnie the Pooh, blood and honey He's going to sodomize somebody with a candy cane, right? We'll ask him when we talk to him All right And that is the news All right Pedro, you ready to take a little trip to the trailer part?

Yes, I am. Okay, no music. But we will bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer tonight? The first one is from RLJE Films, and it's a new sci-fi film titled The Friendship Game. Okay. Synopsis goes a group of teenagers and a small town discovery. strange object that test

the strength of their friendship. This star is Peyton List. Brendan Meyer, Jennifer Coping, and Dylan Shambing, probably. Sean Bean. Shama la Ding, let's just go with it. There you go. Directed by Scooter

Corkle. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now that's a rib. Scooter Corkle. Corkle. All right. Sure. Sure. Let's start with you, Pedro. I mean, these movies are, you know, they're very common nowadays.

The group of either high schoolers or college kids, I don't even know what they are because there's a scene where they're like in a multimillion dollar like loft with like a kids. And I'm like, there's no way these are high school kids. And if they are, they got to be in their parents house somewhere because that's something that was, I just didn't believe that at all. It is weird because it They don't come off as high school kids But the way the trailer presents them

As if they're meeting up after high school After school gets out Yes But even if they're like young adults Like how do you afford a place like that? But that's what they always do in these movies I mean you know it's a movie right Yes

Those are questions we just don't ask So it looked interesting, but again, it's the whole deal that we've seen before where you have a bunch of friends that are the supernatural entities taking them out one by one. Again, I think Final Destination kind of started

that trend. And it's the, I guess you could say the final girl's job or whatever to kind of find out what's going on and stop this entity. And this particular occasion, it's in this weird like box or like puzzle like ball or some shit. that really only spins in the...

It's got like this little gap, like this little opening. Right. And it really only does it stink from there. But everything else is just like, I don't know. It's in like a wasted puzzle, if you ask me. But, no, I'm going to watch it because, you know, I like these movies. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they're good little time wasters, you know. And I watch everything. So I'm not the right audience to say, oh, I'm not going to watch that. Because I'll sit through everything. Sure. But it was okay. I mean, I think, I don't think there was, I don't think there was one female in this trailer that did not have colored hair, though, which also kind of was something that stood out to me. And I'm talking about like, like very loud colors, like green and red and yellow and purple, yes.

Sure. But no, it has, it has the girl from Kerbo Kai in it, so I think she's the lead of this movie. So I don't know if she should fire her agent or give them a raise. I don't know yet. We'll see after this movie's over. but yeah I'm there for it November 11th I believe

yeah I'll check it out too I try to watch everything but I can tell there's going to be a scene that just pisses me off where she reaches for the little puzzle spear

and she says it bit me well maybe you shouldn't play with it then and she sucks her finger when she says that yeah but I mean I mean, Pedro, I think you said it best.

It's one of those movies you just kind of throw on and you just kill time with. Every year. Every year we have one of these. Oh, yeah, at least one, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's a group of youngish people with some kind of object that they shouldn't be playing with. And it's probably, it'll probably end up being bad for everybody, even the main character at the very end. That's right.

Lance? Unless you make us watch it for the show, I'm going to avoid this one. It looks to me like they tried to probably rush this one out before the Hellraiser remake, because to me it just looks like a rip-off of the Hellraiser puzzle box. Well, they were way late on it. Like two months ago. Yeah, I know. They were way late.

They must have had some filming issues with Cobra Kine. I'm going to skip this one unless Brian makes us watch it. I'm out. It entices me to watch it. I mean, it tests the strength of their friendship. I mean, what is the strength of your friendship? Not to stab your friend with this knife? I guess. I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, if you guys are just regular decent people, you shouldn't stab anybody, period. Right. Yeah, the problem is there's so much media out there right now. There's so many movies available that this one I just don't think is going to hit my radar. That's true. That's true. Well, there's so much options there's too much.

There's too much data out there right now. Data. And nowadays, that's really what it is because we're all being watched. So when we press play, everybody knows. Sure. All right. Pedro said it, November 11th. Okay.

Only a little bit of trivia I can find on that movie. I'm assuming instead of Peyton List, it was supposed to be Bell Thorne. But she had scheduled. That I would have watched. And she cranks out about one movie a month, so I'm surprised that she was double-booked. No doubt. All right. The next one is also from RLJ films and will be released on Shudder, and that is a new action horror film from Neil Marshall, The Layer.

Okay. Yeah, I wasn't too happy with The Reckoning, which was his last movie. Right. You know, one thing about Neo Marshall that comes to mind is that that movie that he did Centarian, it wasn't, it's a good movie. I really like it, but it didn't make a lot of money. But it kept them busy for like the next 15 years because anytime television shows need a battle scene, they hire him after that movie because they know that he could. He's very competent in shooting big battle scenes, right? So you always see his name pop up in any television show that requires a big battle scene. And that's thanks to Centur. so good for him. He's been milking the descent fame for a while now, which is good for him as well. But besides that, all his movies are anywhere from six out of ten

to maybe like seven out of ten for me. So I'm still going to see this one, of course. But his name is not box office to me. If I hear he directed something, I'm not going to get excited anymore. Yeah, Brian was right. The reckoning was pretty bad. I'm looking back over that one again.

That was pretty right. That was pretty rough. Yeah, the main actress in this, that is the same actress from The Reckoning, Charlotte Kirk. Yeah, she was also co-writer with Neil Marshall on this, which I was going to read the synopsis, but basically if you take a Laura Croft-esque military character and have her fight one of the monsters from Resident Evil,

that's pretty much this movie. Well, I mean, I'm looking at a picture of her right now in a swimsuit, and I don't blame him. I'm sure there's more going on here that meets the eye. Maybe they shot it back to back like like pro and X. Maybe that's why it's just been sitting on this one for a while. Or like Blabarella and what was the other Uwe Bowl? Where he did like three, not too many.

No, no, no, he would shoot him at the same time, not back to back to back to back. It was literally from one set to the other. concurrently. Eubal is a national treasure. I don't care what anybody says. Well, Lance, if you're looking forward to watching this, this comes out October 28th. But it's on shutter? I think this is, well, they're going to squeeze some money out of it first, so it's going to be VOD.

Yeah, I'll wait. You're not going to watch it even if it's on shutter. I'll probably, I'll probably will when it's on shutter. You know what, I'm going to throw it on the 31 list. Okay. Did you guys catch dark glasses by Dario Argento? Got it. I want to talk about it on the next recap.

Oh, there you go. There you go. No, I'm just saying, because Lance saying that he's going to watch it, but if he hasn't watched that one, then that's kind of a big deal. Is that on Shudder now? Yeah. It's been there. All right.

Well, let me add it to my to-do list then. You said it's called Dark Glasses? Yes. The latest Dario Argento film. all right i'm adding it right now the poster looks like they live with dark glasses i mean all right

that was the final trailer i forgot to send you guys the the mayfair witch's trailer but we'll talk about that one next week all right sounds good and they're coming up to the inevitable crossover then if they're going to have the uh the vampire now that is on amc plus also right right right

Yep, and I'm in because it has Alexandria Dardario. Oh, my God. Please tell me she gets topless. Well, I mean, if it's the first episode of interview with the vampire as any indication, somebody's getting topless. Someone's getting naked. Okay. I think we're going to say, well, the paycheck's the right amount. Then yes, but I guess I could say that too.

Oh, man. All right. Okay, so let's move on to listener. feedback. Philip's not here, so I will, I'll take it away on listener feedback. So this week, the podcast Spotlight shines on The Hounds of Horror. This week, Jacob Inman joins Chris and Gabe yet again, and if he keeps hanging around the studio, we're going to have to start charging him rent. The trio talk about West Craven's 1997 film Scream 2. Two years. after the terrifying events that occurred in Woodsboro,

Sydney is now attending Windsor College in Cincinnati and Gail Weather's bestselling book on Sydney's life has now been made into a major motion picture. When two college students are killed in a theater while watching the new film Stab, Sydney knows deep down that history is repeating itself. Check it out. So that's hounds of horror.

Have you heard it, Brian? Yeah, I checked out this episode. You talked about. It was a pretty good episode. All right. And why doesn't Sydney just change her name? You mean to like Cindy or something?

Or something. And she's not moving far away. She's not going to be anywhere to be seen. I'll tell you that right now. That's what they say. And then she'll pop up. Well, yeah, I guess we'll play it by ear. All right.

So now we're going to join our friend Marcus Will Turner as he continues to do his annual 31 days of horror. and we are now up to number 16, 9 to the Living Dead. An absolute supremely evolving piece of art. Art that's only gotten better and more significant with age and prestige.

Yeah, that Tom Savini one was awesome. Well, I don't think he's talking about the Tom Savine. Brian, is he? I hope he is, because, I mean, somebody might get mad, but I prefer the Tom Savini one. with what he did with the barber character. Really?

I hated the barber character in the Georgia Romero one. Did you? Well, okay. Well, I like the original, but I'm super old, so it makes sense, I guess. All right, number 17, he checked out Open Grave. Have you got seen this one?

Sounds familiar. I think it's, is it Australian or something? There's a few movies called Open Grave. It's like one of those I watched like hundreds of movies a year per year. It's just one of those that I just I remember it but kind of flew by you. Yeah.

Okay. All right. This did not commit fully to an awesome foundational premise and couldn't deliver a solid execution when it withered and shriveled down to a not original outing. That seems like me in the pool the other day

and I'll just leave it at that. it's it's the absolute worst of both brands of storytelling the worst of both worlds and it wasted my goddamn time getting to the goddamn point this doesn't sound good boys it's rare for him to show that kind of piss and vinegar so this really must piss them off

I need to find out which one he's talking about My first big disappointment of the month, ugh, whatever. Let's move on to better features and simply leave this grave where it is. Gotta finish it with a pun. Filled with dead bodies in this dead fucking movie too. Wow. He's talking about the Charlottesopolde Copley one.

Charlton Copley is usually pretty good. Yeah, I, I, I have seen the movie, but I don't necessarily remember it. He should have fired his agent a long time ago. Yeah? Yeah. Could have been in some better movies. So he was pretty good in a beast, I thought.

I liked his role in that. Yeah, yeah, he was. But coming off District 9, I mean, to peak in your first movie, I know. I know. It's like, come on. And I know he was in the 18, too, but that movie wasn't that good. Right?

All right. Let's move on to Fresh. I think we've all seen this one. This one came out this year. This one's got the winner, soldier in it. This snacky gym

holds up to its name, a fresh and bold approach to the many horror surrounding lavish and delicate delights. It's the kind of fare that settles into your stomach the wrong way while thrilling and repulsing you

the right way. Hulu once again offers a flavorful selection, suitable for many horror fans and casuals looking to get more tasty chews out of their projects. Well, this is certainly filling, and then some. You know what? You know what? I get tired listening to his reviews because I could never be that articulate and punny. I know, man. But I enjoy him. I'm not saying I don't enjoy him.

It's just, that's a lot of work. Or hopefully he's just a natural. He's just a natural and it just comes out. He is. He's a word for that. He's a word Smith. That's for sure. And then, and then he ends it on Bon Appetit. All right. And then let's move on to number 19. Halloween ends, Pedro. Oh, fuck that movie. What do you think he's going to say?

Okay, my latest for the horrathon is up on the Super Network. If you want to check it out, Peeps. Uh-oh, he's teasing us. He's going to make you go to the Super Network to find out what he thinks, guys. Today I took on the final Michael Myers film in the massively loved, hated, and divisive series. Does this final film in this particular timeline end the franchise the right way?

Take a look and find out. What a carny this guy. What a carny. Support Marcy and Bede on the site. So to be continued, something tells me he didn't like it. Just guessing, but we'll find out. He gave us a little whiff of his articulate style

and then just to make us one more and go click on the... Yanked it away. Clicked. bait. Good little promoter there. All right. We got an email from Darren Wilson, a friend of the show, Darren Wilson.

He said, listening to the Beetlejuice Halloween Ends episode, of all the odd things in Halloween ends that made me wonder if the movie was maybe Lurie's book she was working on but hadn't hit final draft form. The dickhead band kids bullying somebody felt pretty natural for the Midwest. I remember that seemed to happen in high school when some kids took shit for a year or three and then became seniors. There were definitely a few band kids in my senior year music theory class that for whatever reason became seniors and decided to try bullying a new kid when they thought they could get away with bullying. I can't remember now how it got resolved. That was pretty much straight up late night, freeform thought gibberish, but I already wrote it. As always, I'm enjoying the listen. Later, Darren.

Here's the problem with that. These bad kids, I don't care if you're in the south, the north, the Midwest. They don't go around punking 24-year-old men and try to get away with it. That's the big problem with that entire scene. Right. Yeah, they definitely took their chances, didn't they? All right. We got some more feedback here from Jack Falvey, the 4th.

Jack says, thanks for letting me hop on a few weeks back. I watched the Fritz film Martyrs last year, and it hasn't left my... Yeah, it hasn't left my head since I've seen it. I think it may be one of the most brutal but meaningful movies I've ever seen. Okay, guys, what is your most brutal horror flick?

Who are we going to start with here? You, Brian? I guess one that I'll never, ever watch ever again would be a Serbian film. I'll never watch it to begin with. Heard too many bad things. Not going to watch that one.

I guess for me it would be Salo 120 days to Sanof. Another one I'll never watch. Yes. For me, I think it's going to be Bone Tomahawk. And or terror fire. Both with the same

basic scene. So, we'll leave it at that. But yeah, that bone tomahawk cut, that was pretty fucking brutal, man. The guy's in the cave, and then, of course, Art the clown had to mimic

that in terror fire. So to me, that's pretty fucking brutal. I'm sure we can think of a laundry list here. Too bad Nez isn't on. He'd probably say witchboard, right? Yeah, that is a pretty brutal movie. He didn't liking it, so who knows?

All right, regarding the cabin at the end of the world, Andrew Huff says, Love this book. He has several awesome ones. I'm actually reading the book right now because I want to read it before the M-night movie that's going to be based on it.

So, Cabin at the end of the world. Pretty interesting so far. It's fast read. All right, our show intro and all of our new t-shirt designs come from Steve Carlton, from the geeks. And be able to look out for more great stuff from Steve.

And our original artwork comes from Natsalani. If you'd like to help the show, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. We will let, just like Al Ram Zero, we will let you pick out the movies for a future show at any amount. And for $5 a more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. If you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review. I know we got one of those last week as well, so thanks. And now it's time for our main attractions. This week we're going to get into some found footage stuff with VHS 94 and VHS 99.

So we'll start out with 2021's VHS 94. A police SWAT team investigates about a mysterious VHS tape and discovers a sinister cult that has pre-recorded material which uncovers a nightmarish conspiracy. Director and writers, Simon Barrett, Stephen Kostanski, Chloe Okuna, Ryan Prows, Jennifer Reader, and Timo Tanjanto. The amateur sketch of the Ratman is a reference to the amateur sketch of a leprecha. A leprecha sighting in Alabama, circa March 16, 2007. And the DVD release comes with a reversible cover sleeve. So, Pedro, how do you want to do this?

Are we going to break this down by episode or by, you know, because it's like what, four like many movies? Are we going to break it down one by one? We could. We could give just our opinions on each one just kind of quick. Let me pull up the wiki then. So we'll round robin. Ratma is the first one, right?

I don't think it's called rapma. the wrap around I think it's called Storm Drain. Yeah. All right. So what do you think about that one, Pedro? Well, before we get started with talking about this one specifically, I got to say, one of the reasons why I wanted to do this show today, because I'm a huge fan of this franchise.

Like, like, I love the first two I consider kind of like anthology classics. Because another thing about me too is that I'm a huge fan of the format. I don't think we're getting enough fantology, especially at a mainstream forum. So the first one, I mean, it's got the who's who's who of like horror film. makers that would go on to hit the mainstream later on. It's got like radio silence is in there. David Brugner's in there. Okay.

Adam Wingard. Adam Wingard's in there. He does the one that inspires Siren, I believe. Is that him? I think that's him. Oh, yeah. Okay. Sure, sure. And VHS one also has a couple classics. It's got the Siren one. And then it also has

the last one, the one where the where the frat boys go into kind of like that house that's having like the ritual. Oh, I love that one for the hands. Yeah, that was really good. That was radio silence. Yeah, that was cool. That was radio silence, correct.

And so off the hop, you know, great, great start to the franchise. Part two, of course, part two is known for Save Haven. That's a classic, right? I mean, where the cold. And that one's the cold. Yeah, the cold, yeah. So that one's done by Tito, the same guy that did the one we're going to talk about in a minute here. And that's the one everybody remembers, but they should because that one, I think, takes the bulk of the movie.

I mean, that's the longer segment than you. usual. But there's also a couple good ones in there. There's the one where they're on the bicycles and you could see, like you could see through the little lens that they put on their helmets. So that's another good one. Okay. That's the one in the park, the zombies and everything.

Right. Then they kind of hit a little bump with viral, VHS viral, which wasn't that good. And I hate it. I hate it. The wrap around story didn't make a lot of sense. It was weird. Because again, yeah, they were trying to introduce that whole thing about the internet, the early days of the internet or whatnot.

And then that brought us to VHS 94. Now, this one got a lot of hype last year. This one was really promoted even, like, at the start of the year, that we're saying, oh, we're going to get a new VHS. I got excited. And I know, I think they did a good job. I mean, I think I like most of the stories here. I really like Storm Drain, which is the one that kicked things off,

besides the wrap-around story. And that was pretty much about this news reporter who goes into the sewers. to do a story on what they call the rat man. And of course, as they're going through the sewers, you know, it turns out that there's something more sinister, and there's like this kind of cult down there that worships the aforementioned ratman. And at the end, you know, the reporter gets taken by the rat man. And then there's kind of like this infection that goes through.

And then at the end, you know, it goes into the studio. And then that's the end of that segment. The funeral home one was okay. but the one that I think everybody kind of talks about again by this guy Timot to Janinto is the subject. Oh, yes. Like this POV. And that one's, that was bonkers.

It's all over the place. I don't think it's as good at Save Haven because that's kind of like a high standard. But it was still fun, you know, and it's very gory. So that one was pretty good. And then the one that kind of finishes it off as far as the meat of the stories, is the one about those those MAGA guys,

the ones that are like, that's, that's weak, man, to me, in my opinion, that was pretty weak. But I think that was a stupid.

I mean, I know it's tongue in cheek and all that. That's what I figure. I figure they were, they were trying to, you know, you know, make fun of that and,

and satire and stuff. The January, the January 6 guys and all that shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it, it turns out there's like a creature

and all that stuff, but I had fun with it, but, you know. So it wasn't as good as the first two, but it was better than viral, and that's kind of like I put it at. So I don't know. I thought, yeah, VHS-94 is very rewatchable, and I think if people haven't seen it, they should check it out. It's on Shudder.

So I really enjoyed it. Yeah, Brian, you want me to go next? If you want to, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, yeah, okay, so I'd like to give a rating to each one of them. Okay. Okay, so Holy Hell, which is the wrap-round, I thought that was. super weak. I give that like a 4 on 10. It was

just kind of silly to me, but I don't like most of the wraparounds. The Storm Drain episode, the RAPMA, I thought that did some great mythology building, and I would give that one a strong 7 on 10. It had

some good special effects. It was scary. And there's actually, have you guys ever heard of the true story of the people that live underground in Las Vegas? No, I haven't. I mean, I've heard New York City, but not Las Vegas.

Okay, look this up, guys. I kid you not. You could completely go down the rabbit hole. There is an entire underground subculture of people underneath Vegas. And I think it starts off off the strip. Yeah, and then it goes out from there. And there are, there's just tons of people that live under there. I've seen a couple of, like, YouTube reporters that have

gone down there and interviewed people and stuff like that. But there's literally a whole world of people under there that just kind of live off the scraps. And then it's like people that I think are probably gambling addicts who kind of live down there because they can't afford anything else. I was going to say maybe that's where the mafia sends you when you can't pay your bills. It could be, man. To one of their casinos on the strip. It's a real thing, man. Check it out. And that reminded me a lot of this. So, yeah, I definitely enjoyed that one.

I would give the one with the funeral home an eight out of ten. Okay. I think that one was really, really strong, especially the way they used some of the effects of the lights turning out in certain places. And you've got the one girl alone all by herself there and stuff like that. Let's see. What was the next one? You said the subject is what it was called.

Yes, well, the empty wake. That's the one by Simon Barrett. Yeah, you already talked about that one. No, no. Yeah, that's a subject. That's an eight for me. For me, the subject was a strong nine. It was just, yeah, phenomenal, special effects,

incredibly brutal. And then when we're going to the MAGA guys, I'm back down to about a five. Kind of like, you know, not really on one side of the other. I understand what they're trying to do. It's kind of like making fun of a certain, you know, subset of people, but I just didn't find

it that enjoyable. Okay. And that's it for me. What about you, Brian? For rating these, the wraparound, holy hell, it was what it was. You know, it's just there to just lead us to the next video, so it was

fine. I would probably give it a six. Okay. The next one, Storm Drain. I really enjoyed this one. I'd like the whole story of the reporter going in there, you know, trying to get this story.

And I really liked the look of Ratma. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a great reveal. Yeah. Great reveal. Great reveal. Great practical effects on Ratma right there. So I would get that one

of a seven and a half. Okay. The next one, Empty Wake. I really enjoyed this one. I thought the effects of the dead guy getting up, how he had. most of his head missing and he couldn't find her until the reveal of the other part of his head was on the floor. Mm-hmm.

And I was really curious on what was happening after. Was she taken over by whatever spirit or was she a zombie? You know, what was the deal? Because you had the one guy that came into the wake. I don't know if you guys caught it, but he was whispering some kind of incantation. Oh, yeah. There was big stuff going on for sure. What's up, Phil?

Hey, what's up? We're talking about VHS 94, man. Oh, awesome. Yeah, man, I was impressed with that one. All right, yeah, Brian. Brian's about halfway through his review now. All right. Empty wake, I would give a solid 8 to.

Next up was the subject. Oh, real quick, shout out to Steve Costansky. Psycho-Gorman director. He did the commercial. And the void. Oh, cool. Bedger Yep.

And they do a shout out to that in 99, too, by the way. Yeah. The subject with Timo, writing and directing, was just complete fucking craziness going on. It felt like a fucking video, a crazy video game of a bunch of shit

that I probably shouldn't have been playing when I was a kid. That's what the subject felt like. But it was also cool because those are the kind of games that were really in their infancy during that time. Remember that like the Doom game and Diablo and all that stuff? So I really like how they did that.

It was also connected to the theme of like 94. Right, right. Yes. So I would also give that one at eight. Nice. And, Lancer, you know what? I'm going to give it a six and a half.

I like to stuff with the vampire. I thought it was. creative that they were trying to use the blood as a weapon. Sure. Weaponized the blood. Kind of like they're doing the Walking Dead every week now. Yeah. I'm not going to lie.

I thought it was hilarious when they started accidentally taking each other out. Blowing themselves up. So, yeah, I get that one to six and a half. Nice. All right. Overall, probably as a whole, probably seven, seven, and a half. Yeah, agreed. I really enjoyed this one. This is a good one. Yeah, me too. 94 was good. So what does Phil think about 94? It's got his thoughts. Yeah, yeah, I think that that one is a pretty

high quality, man. I love the effects on everything. Pretty much all of the stories were pretty solid. Production was great. I really don't have a lot of complaints about it. Like, it was a really entertaining movie. I like this one. What's your favorite? You know, that's kind of hard to say. I kind of like the Rat Man one. That one's pretty good. Let's see. Which one was the

veggie match? Oh, the veggie masher was the commercial? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let's see. The subject. That one was okay. It started out. I didn't it got a little annoying at the beginning because every time it showed her point of view

it was all like fuzzy and stuff but the further it got going the more exciting it got so can't say I had a problem with that one the empty wake

that was the zombie one and that one was pretty fucking good creepy great great effects yeah let's see

terror that was the white supremacy one yeah well you just came right out and said it didn't you yeah well no i the thinly veiled politics of it i don't like but the story was pretty good and i was impressed with it so take that out of the picture it's good right uh let's see what was the other ones holy hell which one was holy hell that was just the the wrap-up to the the wraparound story oh yeah well and yeah i felt like that one sort of, I mean, we'll get into VHS 99, but I feel like the story, the wraparound story, and this one was a little bit better than the non-existent one and the other one. I hear you.

But it's like Lance was saying, though, these, all four of them, the wraparons are never really that good. So they don't really even make much sense of, even the first two. Like, it's like, you've got to kind of piece it together and they're a little convoluted. But, yeah, so the wraparounds are not really, I don't really. judge it against that but yeah all in all this was a good movie. Yeah the wrap around is just get this get this person to play the next video.

Right. Even if it makes no sense of why they would even play the video. And it didn't. The whole story between that one was kind of weird but it seemed like it was more present

than VHS 99. Man I'm going to go ahead and give this movie an eight. I really impressed. I was really Very nice. Yeah. Yeah. I'm strong seven and a half overall for the whole movie. I think, Brian, you're going to seven and a half, right? All right. Yeah. So we all recommend it. Based mostly just on effects, dude, it was like better than I expected it's a lot better, a lot better done than some of these anthology movies, right? Yeah. It didn't look low budget at all. Yeah. So how are we going to do 99 without spoiling? Because these are each short stories. Did we do? The spoiler alert early, Phillip?

Let's hit that spoiler alert right now. Okay. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

Let's do it. All right, Philip. All right. Let me pull it up here. VHS 99. Witness a hellish vision of 1999, a social isolation, analog technology, and disturbing home videos fuse into a nightmare of found footage savagery. Directors are Flying Lotus, Vanessa Williams, and others. The film was rushed into production after the success of VHS-94, with production having taken five months.

Wow, that's a lot for a film like this. What did you say? You said rushed? They're rushed, yeah. Okay. I just remember that word. When did VHS 94 come out? Oh, that was 21.

Okay. Yeah, that was like literally about a year ago. Exactly. A year ago. But even for a movie of this ilk, they don't usually take, this is not a Marvel movie here. This is five months is a long. It's not Lawrence of Arabia, is it? Well, I felt like the stories were longer in this one, huh?

Were they? They felt longer. They felt longer. I have to agree. They felt like they was... That first one really fell long. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was like, is this going to be the whole movie?

All right. Well, I guess we'll start off round Robin. Pedro, you want to take us off? Yeah, so, yeah, no, that... First of all, I was waiting for the Rapperon, and there really isn't one. They're just a bunch of commercials and just... Okay. The little toy soldiers that somehow there's a story going on there.

which didn't make any sense at all. I don't get it, guys. It was like, here's a palate cleanser before the next story. To be honest, Pedro was like that thing you said about nostalgia. Hell of a drug. Yeah, it kind of hit me there because I had those same Armymen when I was a kid. Yeah, but this is 1999, dude. This is not 89.

That's the problem. Them little toy soldiers were long in the trap by 99 in my life. Um, right. But, but, yeah, the first one is called shredding. And it's about this bank called rack, you know, which was, uh, Rachel, actor, Chris and Caleb, uh, get it rack. Um, and this is about, frankly, no, I don't get it. It's fucking horrible. Not near as good of a name as bitch cat.

Yeah. Yeah. Or, uh, pussy, what was it called, Brian? Pussy Willow or pussycat. Pussy cake. I forgot, that was one of my cool of the weeks. forgot to talk about that. I like that movie. Oh, man. It's better than this.

That's for sure. So, so anyways, long story short, you have these punks who are like, and I want to say this is done on purpose. They're the most ongoing fucking people on earth. Like, on earth. And so they go into this, I guess,

abandoned warehouse or something, where there was a fire. They don't really say when, but in the past, and it actually killed a previous band. And they even do this thing where they cut back. Now, I don't know how they cut back. See, this movie doesn't bother make any sense, the entire movie. Because the previous ones would give you an excuse of why they're watching a tape. It would give you an excuse of how they rewind, all these other shit.

This one doesn't care. So we get a flashback. Sure. Within the video of the band that caught fire, literal fire, by the way, not got popular. They actually, you know, burned to death. Real quick, can we say the band? That band looked way more interesting than this band? Yes. Yeah, I believe it was called bitch cat. Yeah, that was the one. Kind of like the drummers for Spinal Tamp.

They all spontaneously combusted. Now, I don't know how much heat this story is going to get because this did happen with Great White. And I don't know if it was that long ago, but if it's in my mind. What was that? They didn't die, though. I believe one of them did. Did they? Yeah, well, some of us people died because the place caught fire.

and I know there was deaths for sure. Yeah. Actually, I believe some of the people, some of the band members also passed away. Really? Yeah. So, so the point is that these punks, again,

I'm not, I mean to laugh. 20 to 25 minutes of this fucking film is literally them just being the most annoying fucking kids on earth. And except for the drummer. Tell like the chick, the chicken dash cam, huh?

Yeah, well, the fuck. She, she's supposed to be irritating, though. Yeah. Well, I want to believe that these kids were they were irritating for a purpose, which was their ending. I guess. So it's a very simplistic. We're talking way too much about this fucking story already because it's a very simplistic story. This punk's going to the venue and essentially the spirits of the band that burned to death on that venue are still there.

And somehow they don't come back as ghosts. They come back as like meat eating zombies. Like, I've never. That's part of a new mythology there where ghosts and. enjoying me. And so essentially the fucking the band rack, they're annoying as fuck.

They do this one performance where they start kind of gyrating and the drummers like, no, cut it out, man, it's ain't funny. And then he kind of becomes a pussy. And he wants to go home. But it's too late because they've already awoken the spirits. Bich cat comes in and

claws their way. See, I'm doing the mark is there, claws their way into these dumb fucking annoying teenagers and essentially just fucking eat them. That's it. That's the whole story. That's it. I know. 35 minutes, we'll never

get back. Right. Well, yeah, and they spend so much time on character development with these assholes. And I was so... It's like a 20-minute thing. It's like you spent 90% of your time building up these idiots.

And I was so confused. I thought this was the start of the Rapparound story. Yeah, me too. I was like, this is the first story. Wow. I thought it was going to be the whole movie there for a minute. I was a little worried.

Yeah, pretty, pretty bad. Pretty bad. You went back to the main menu and saying, did I press the right button or am I watching dark glasses here? This fucking movie. Nothing's happening here. Wow. Yeah.

And then to top it off, one of them, like, you have Rachel, which is a common name, no nice Christian name. You have Chris, another nice Christian name. You have Caleb. Okay, we'll accept it. And then just so we'll get more pissed off, there's a guy called Anker, which is not even spelled right.

It's called A-N-U-K-U-R. Like, get the fuck out of here. And I think Anker's a drummer, which he looks Latino, so there's no fucking way. His name's Anchor. Okay. Anchor was, he was the biggest pussy in this whole movie. How are these your bandmates or your friends?

Yeah, they're kind of assholes. It's like all their pranks are geared towards him and only him. He's a lonely kid that wants to have friends. That's what's going on. I think the only female in the group also calls him a pussy. Anchor couldn't have been his name. It had to have been pussy. He's probably in the friend zone, too. It probably wants to fuck her or something. Well, probably so. Probably so. Never happened.

Spice boy. Oh, boy. Oh, gosh. is what they called him. Yeah. And he got mad about it. I keep trying to tell my son, right? Like, listen, somebody starts talking shit, the more upset you get, the more shit they're going to talk.

That's just how that works. It's more fun that way, right? Yeah. I'm like, if you let them know that it bothers you, they're just going to zero in. I don't have much to add to this one, guys. Anchor. That makes me mad that you said that somebody's name. I didn't feel bad for him at least

I didn't, he didn't even when all the shit happened He was in the fucking corner somewhere crying Oh boy The ending was cool though When they're all kind of animated And they're all put together again And it's kind of like puppeteer to play

It reminded me of that scene from From Dust to Dawn with Tito and Los Tarantula us are playing and they're all vespired out. They got the bodies that's guitars in shit. Well, that's not as good. If Salma Hayek could shut up with a snake, I would have been in. Oh, yeah. Quick question.

What was the point of the blow-up dolls that they were jumping on them? Maybe David Gordon Green directed this. Let me look again. Because it seems like he has something to do with this. It's like a MythBusters thing. How much pressure does it take to explode a body full of Jello? Pretty bad. So now we go, okay, so now it picks up, though.

Let's be fair here. It picks up really, really good because we're going to suicide bid. So this one's a cool little story. It's about this kind of girl that wants to be long. What's that? But was it pretty good? Okay, okay. We'll get it.

We'll get it. Okay. I like this one because, first of all, all these stories, every time I watch it, I'm like, could somebody make a full movie out of this? And I honestly believe people could make a full movie out of suicide bid, and I'm going to tell you why. Yeah. There were so many things that were teased that were not answered. And then it seemed like this was the first 10 minutes of a whole feature because this girl called Lily, she wants to join that sorority, whatever it is. And then the other girls make her go into this grave.

And there's like a whole mythology around the grave. And they're like, you're going to, you know, you're going to be there. And then they even give her like an escape little thing, like a little box to escape if she wants. to, you know, get out early. And if she makes it throughout the night, then she's in the sorority. Okay. And then what happens is that this is a calamity shit right here because then it sounds like a Scooby-Doo cartoon with a haunted house they have to stay in overnight.

Then it starts raining out of nowhere. And then the girls, the security guard kind of scares them away. And they're like, in a very matter-of-fact way, they're like, oh, we'll just come back in the morning and get her. There's so many questions that went through my mind when that fucking dialogue was exchanged. And they bounce. And then the security guards like, I don't want to get a, he doesn't want to get sick. I forget what he says.

But he leaves. Nomania. Nomania. And then so the girl stuck in the coffin and the rain, they show the rain actually. Again, they don't care about the found footage at this point in this fucking movie because we're just getting all kinds of different angles. Yeah. So you could see the mud starting to come into the, the, the, the old. grave because it's raining.

And so pretty much the rest of the story is about the girl that stuck in there with no one to help her. And I thought that was pretty scary. I mean, anybody could see themselves in that scenario. So then as she opens the little escape box and it isn't being a bunch of spiders. Like they just, you know, they just kind of come out. So there goes that plan. And then I don't know where the other girl, the one that supposedly died like 10 years before,

the one that the entire mythology is based on, she comes out and she grabs. the girl that Lily, the one that's trying to join the sorority. And then in the funniest part of the story, because of the acting, the other girl come back. And they very matter of factly saying, now, if this was a real movie, there would be a good two to three minute devoted just to this scene. Because this is a big deal, what's about to happen. But here, they're like, they freak out for like a second. And they're like, let's nobody ever talk about it. We're not going to talk about it ever again.

Okay? Not it good. It's like yellow-tagging. They just leave. And then we skip like an entire fucking act of the movie. And then all of a sudden they just wake up in the coffin. And every one of them is in the coffin now. And then the girl that was there earlier, Lily comes out with the other girl.

And then they kind of reclaim, they claim their souls or whatever happens. And then that's the end of the story. So that's what I'm saying. This story could have been an actual feature because once it would have been like, let's never talk about it. You could have like the entire story of like all the girls that went on to live their lives are kind of scared and they're seeing spirits or whatever. I don't know. I like this one.

Okay. Yeah, I dug it too. Yeah. Like you said, if this was a Fuller feature, you could have got more into, because it's called suicide bid because this is the only, excuse me, the only sorority that she's trying to go for. And basically, she doesn't make it into this one. She basically puts her position to kind of get, you know, ousted by everybody, you know, exiled basically be a loner, nobody's going to fuck with her.

And if this was a full feature, I would like to see them, why she's so dead set on getting into this sorority. Wow. But I will, that was a funny scene when they came back for her. Because I like, I like that they dove into the water and it was in there for like five seconds. And it was like, she's gone. I don't see anything in that water. Yeah, it's money. water and isn't there still lid on that thing?

And then there's another girl that's like, what do you mean she's gone? Then she jumps in, mind you, she doesn't take off her brand new letterman jacket or anything. Or shoes. And she's in there for probably a second longer and then pops up. You're right. She's gone. I don't know about you guys, but the happiest day in my college career was the day in my freshman year. when I told the fraternity that I was pledging,

fuck you, fuck you all. You're not going to take me out and yell at me with a bunch of other fucking pledges in the middle of the woods and leave it stranded there. You guys can fuck off. I'm not interested in being in a fraternity. So I don't know why she cares so much about being in the goddamn sorority.

These people are fucking idiots. That's why I would like to, like, that's not my favorite. That's why I like, like Pedro said, I would like to see a full feature because there's one girl that's like while she's getting drunk like talking shit to her but she's so just dead set or getting into this sorority why i mean what's the big deal maybe maybe she wouldn't make a good partner with that drummer from the previous story because

they're both like losers who just want to be like ragged on the entire time i guess anchor anchor our boy anchor. Oh, boy. Yeah, this one was probably my favorite, too, and it seemed like it was the shortest. Okay. Well, because it was actually at least interesting to watch.

I was not a fan of the effects at the end. I think that could have been done better, for sure. And it was surprising because watching VHS 94, they were so good, and then this pops up, and I'm like, oh, what are we doing? Yeah, VHS

94 was a completely different movie than this one. That's for sure. And just want to throw out there. I believe this is the first time where no previous... Go ahead. Do what, Brian? I think we had a delay there. What'd you say?

No, you said this was the first one that the directors hadn't done anything prior? Yeah, I think this was all new directors to the series. No returning directors. And this one was... Okay, that makes sense. Johannes Roberts. He did the first 47 meters down.

Okay. That kind of explains a lot, actually. Unfortunately, yeah. I'm taking you didn't like this one, Lance. Not a fan. The only one of these I kind of liked was the one we're going to talk about next just because it was so bad shit crazy.

Oh, Double-Den? I mean, Ozzy's Dungeons? Yes, yes, yes. I loved it. I didn't love it, but I loved it. It was a bright spot in a bunch of shitty shows. A bunch

of shitty mini-mits for me. It's your boy in it from Walking Dead. Nagan? Nagan was in this one? Nagan, wasn't he like Negan's right-hand man? I think so. Oh, that was him? The game show guy? Yeah, I'm trying to

look at. That was Stephen Og. Yeah, Stephen Og. I love that guy. No, I just like the way it was so bad shit crazy. I love the way that he kidnapped him. Put him in the cage and said, okay, go through that slide, motherfucker. Go into that pool of shit.

Climb through all that shit. And you got all that diarrhea in there. I like that she had to take her shirt off first. That was hilarious, man. Like, wait, what? And then she blew that snot when she started coughing for like, no reason other than she fucking... Yes, yes.

I was like, all right, she's crazy. That's CGI's not. I thought it was going to tie to dash cam there, right? They were going to start turning into like COVID zombies and shit. CGIS not is my arcade fire cover band. Yeah, there you go. Did they not take their daughter to a doctor? Why did her leg look like that?

I was wondering that. That was bad. I think there is some, you know what, this is a very good story, and I really like that. I think at the end we find out that. that the daughter was mad at all of them, including her own family. That's why she wished for them to all get killed. And so that's the reason, yeah, when you ask, why didn't they take it to the doctor? Well, they fucking should have.

But I think the mom was so upset. And we could read a lot into it, you know, like, race relations, whatever you want to say. But it was the mom's projecting her own anger at this entire situation that it ended up even hurting her own daughter. I think that's what I got out of this as well. They hoard the daughter out, too, right? To be in the game. Exactly. They tried to win money for the family.

Now, how come they didn't, they didn't, like, like, kidnapped that, that chubby kid that caused this entire thing, the one that went over, that would have been fun. The one that went over the girl that said this entire thing in motion. Right. That kid cheated. Grabbed her leg and pushed her down. That's what I was going on.

Because they mentioned that they made the game, the obstacle course. Okay. Unwinnable, but they never showed. They never showed how they were unwinnable. Like, I thought they were going to go, and when they went to the studio, they were going to look at one of the slides or something, and they're like, oh, this thing stops you from doing this or something,

but they never got into it. Yeah. I do like the scene. I do like that, that scene where Stephen Nog is like, like, what is that brown thing? And then the lady's like, well, it ain't pudding or something. what's all that brown stuff in that pool where it didn't putting um no i i like this one and it's directed by uh by the flying lotus whoever that is one of my pet peeves of these other i've never seen that movie the black the black saint hated it am i right brian is i hated

it cuso yeah uso or cuso or whatever coo so it's it's weird like this one i think If I remember it correctly, it's a bunch of short films that are just fucking super weird. Okay. Well, this story is weird, and that's part of the charm, because it is this weird, like, this story could not take place in our world. This is like this other world and shit, and this is so dark. Even before the shit hits the fan, like, even the game show. No pun intended. The game show itself is kind of dark and weird.

And, you know, Stephen Knox, like, hamming it up as the game show host, which he does have a lot of charisma, by the way. Yeah. Got to climb, got to climb through the stomach and the intestines and the out of the poop shoot. Everything. Poop shoot. Yeah. And if I'm showing a replay of the leg injury, they show like five replays of the leg injury. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, from different angles. And then they show the audience and, you know, that's where the mom gets upset. But no, this story also had a lot of. twist and turns because I guarantee you none of us knew it was going to end the way it ended from the beginning of this fucking story. It just takes this weird turn where

somehow Ozzy's dungeon could grant wishes, which we never even knew into into the actual... See, I kind of like that, man. No, I do. I love it. I love that surrealism. No, yeah, exactly. I love that part. And then you know something's weird when they go to the game show lot or whatever

and there's like on guards right there and it's like, oh shit, now something's going on here. That's right. And then they go into the... Yes, and then they go into the backways. And then that's when we see some sort of, like, ritual going on. And there's, like, this lady that's having, like, a... About to fucking crap out some sort of monster or whatever.

That's where the shit is... Yeah, that shit was wild. And, yeah, no, I really liked this one. Yeah, this was the only one I kind of liked, really. I didn't hate it, but it took them a while to get where they were going. Yeah, it did. It did. Like, the whole thing.

first half of it where they're just showing the Double Dare thing. I was like what, where are we going with this? And the lady's taking off her show for like no reason. That shit was funny. And then the

pussy who's just holding the camera the entire time. He doesn't say shit. Like you just kind of hold. I'm sorry, baby. You're right. What was that that show Double Dare? What was the host name Mark something or Mark Summers? Mark Summers.

Yeah. All these kids show holes, give me some creepy vibes. I'll be honest with that. Oh, big time, dude. And then he would show up, like, on the Nickelodeon, like, award shows and stuff like that. Yes. Mark some. I wonder how he got around the restraining order.

I thought he wasn't supposed to be with that and that many, that close to kids. Yeah, I like, I like this. So I'll give this Aussie's done. We're not, are we doing the whole individual rankings again or no? I guess not, because we haven't done it. If we are, I'm going two, two, and then for Ozzy's Dungeon, I'm going seven. Wow, two and two, Jesus. Yeah, two and two, they're fucking horrible.

I'm going... I'm going two for the first one. Okay. I'm going eight for the second one, eight on ten. Eight? I like it. I like it. Oh, the suicide bid?

Yes. I want to see a whole movie on that. I'll go three. I want to see a whole movie on it. Wow, Lance, three. Yeah. And then I'll go three. Because it had a potential.

Three does not sound like potential. Three, three is close to five, Brian. Come on. No, three is rethink your career. You shouldn't be making movies. It doesn't sound like you have potential, kid. All right. And then I'm going eight for Aussie's dungeon because it was so bonkers at the end.

I love it. Okay. I'll go two, seven, and seven. Okay, okay See, I'm gonna go 3-66 Okay, that's good Because I think both of those were pretty decent

Although they were fucking weird Yeah, and the suicide pact on was just so simple and quick True Which, you know, it was not necessarily a bad thing In a movie like this So that kind of worked I just didn't get enough out of the suicide bid one Yeah, that's that I understand

that's just me. Well, none of them were as complicated or as good as anything in VHS 94. Yeah, I agree. I'm thinking because Shutter took over the production, we're going to see less and less money to these things. It's a different production team, and, you know, they're just kind of using the name. And I think this is the first movie where you could tell it has less money than the previous ones. They should do a weekly series now. Well, they've, well, we're kind of jumping ahead, but they've already greenlit. the next one. And they got some pretty... 85.

And they already... They got David Bruckner, Scott Derrickson. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. So they're going back to having spending some money again. That should be a theatrical right there.

My crush. G.G. Sal Guerrero. Oh. They got some names in there. Oh. She did bingo hell, right? Yeah. Yeah.

We forget about that one. Ah, okay. Hey, the Inemitable Richard Bray. was in it. Yeah. We love that guy. Yep. So then we have one

called the Gawkers. Now this is another one. I don't even remember. You guys are going to have to remind me. This is the Medusa one. Yeah. Oh! That was pretty good special effects, actually.

Yeah. I mean, I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I mean, they had boobs. Hey. Medusa's like that. So again, this was more along

the lines of the siren one from the first one, right? Where, you know, they're kind of But the guys in the first one were not as annoying. Again, we're going back to teenagers. Something about teenagers with this fucking movie. So now we're going back to more annoying. Yeah, and real quick, the toy soldier, the little short little pieces, this goes into this one.

Yes. This was the kids' camera the entire time. And he was the one that would, Brady is the one that was making the little movies, the little stop action movies, because who might be a serial killer in the future? Who knows? Yeah, because right before his brother comes to takes a camera, he is having two of his toy soldiers make out.

Yes. So this guy has issues. This guy has issues off the hop. Jeffrey Dahmer or any, huh? No. Well, he never gets to do it because he runs into Matusa. Because then he'd be dead, but, you know, frame. So, so, yeah.

So this kid called Brady, he has got the little camera we talked about. Then this is another story of a kid getting bullied. How many of this fucking, I don't know, man, these filmmakers, there's a lot of projection going on with their own childhoods. I could see him. This kid seemed to enjoy having a dick drawn on his head because he was kind of laughing about it. Yeah, because he wants to be long. Well, that's what happens when you fall asleep first, man.

I just. Right. At that point, no one that was going to happen. So this is kind of like a real. window kind of, you know, dash fucking siren dash, I have no money. Let's see what we come up with kind of movie kind of story. It ends up being that these horny kids, they install some sort of spyware on the computer, and then they start spying on this attractive woman across the, I guess you could say, across the building. And they end up, they kind of peer pressure their

friends who go over there, he goes over there or whatever. And then, long story short, this broadens kind of be coming into a Medusa or what they call Gorgans or whatever. Yeah, Gorgens. Yeah. And that's it. You know, she kinds of creeps everyone out. And then she first kills the kid that went over there. And he kind of just kind of stays paralyzed.

And then somehow, I don't know how, but she finds out that she's being watched by these punks. And then she hops over to their apartment building and just takes them out one by one. And that's the story. And that's it. And that's all, folks. I was kind of disappointed about it. I feel like the setup for this one almost looks sort of realistic found footage, right?

You had the, like you said, the rear window thing going on. Yes. And I think it could have been really interesting, but then it fell apart when Medusa popped up. Where it really fell apart for me is when Medusa or Gorgon or whatever was chasing them. There was no reason for him to still hold the camera at all. That's true. Yeah.

Yeah, they all just sort of stood there and watched her rip her buddy apart. I mean, it is found footage. What are he going to do, Brian? They were like, oh, my God, she's throwing body parts everywhere. We should run. Keep filming. That's a big thing with all these fucking movies. I mean, what was his name?

The guy that got canceled. Right. What was his name, Miller from Cloverfield? What was his name again? Uh, T.J. Miller. He held the camera and there's a big fucking monster all over New York City. I know. This motherfucker doesn't drop the camera.

Well, there's a big monster in New York City. That'd be a pretty solid reason to have a camera on it. I guess you're right. They need the video so they can believe. So, no, what I think they really fucked up is they should have never showed her face because once they showed her face and they even do the thing where it's kind of cheesy. She looks into the camera because we're supposed to get enchanted too, right? So she looks into the camera.

Oh, was that what that was at the end there? Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, because that's why, but I'm just thinking where all the money go. That's what I'm thinking. She's not enchanted shit. I'll still give it a five. I kind of like the special effects. I kind of like seeing the snakes and everything.

So I'm giving it a five. Well, I'll give it a six and a half. Okay. because I did like the reveal. I thought the reveal was cool because it's like these horny kids, they're just trying to, like you said, you know, they're trying to get there, you know. Because remember back then, folks, it wasn't like it is today. It was hard to see some tities back in the day. So you had to take the Ws wherever you could.

Yeah. So I get these kids motivation. But the internet wasn't there. We had a Sears catalog. Yeah, there was no U-Porn. That's for sure. And hopefully a freaking Victoria's Secret magazine. Yeah.

Or at least a national geographic, right? Or at least try to put the Playboy into the Sports Illustrated. Like I go to the newsstand and then put one underneath the other and just try to flick the pages before the guy's like, hey, you're going to buy that or what? And I'm like, no, put it back. So, so yeah, no. So I did like the reveal, but it got kind of cheesy at the end, especially again when they revealed her face. Because she wasn't even scary. It was laughable.

And so I give it six and a half on ten. All right. I'm going to go four. Yeah. I like four on ten. I did like to reveal, but then when it was revealed, it turned into an animated feature. Yeah, there you go. Okay.

So I was like, I don't know about your effects comment. And I really wish they did something with the camera. I had fun with it. As she came into their home. to where I wouldn't have been like, why the fuck are you running with the camera? Why are you pointing the camera at the gorgon coming at you? Kind of like running with the devil, huh? Yeah, I'm going to go four also.

Okay. I didn't mind the like the reveal part when she started like creaking her bones and shit when they were watching her on the web cramp. Like I thought that was cool. And I was kind of wondering where they were going with it. And I was like, oh, this might be pretty neat. And then the snakes pop out. And I was like, I didn't quite take you where you're going.

I like when she was doing that with her arms. Yeah. They weren't really too shocked. I know. They were like, oh, she's a contortionist. She can bend her arm right in the middle of her forearm. So then we go to the last one. And this is the one that I like the least.

Actually, I was downright insulted by this story because it was just bullshit, I think. I forgot this one even existed. So I'm going to let you. This story could have been so good. If it would have been more grounded and more serious, I feel like it would have been good. But they decided to go the complete comedy route on this, including the sets of hell.

That's a shame. Oh, yeah. I certainly hope the sets were made to be comedic because if we're supposed to take the set seriously, come on now. I think it is comedic because the lead guy, it was also the writer-director. he is the writer and director and stars in the Deadstream that's on Shedder. That was a good movie though.

He also had a birthday hat on the whole time. So I felt like it was supposed to be comedic. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Well, they had some comedic lines that kind of hit almost. Yeah. Right.

So this movie has two friends. I mean, this story has two friends, Nate and Troy. and this takes place on New Year's Eve 1999. Now, I don't know if it's going into 99 or going into 2-d-I-I-I'm going to say it's 99. So it's late 98. Okay. And they get hired to record this witches doing some sort of ritual with this girl. And then it turns out that once the ritual is performed, they end up like waking up in hell.

So they're in literal how at this point. Oh, boy. And from there, it's just, you know, comedic hijinks ensues. They're very, first of all, they're very matter of fact about it, which, you know, if I was in hell, I don't know, I've never been in hell. And so, like you said, the guys wearing a fucking birthday hat still. Did they meet up with Little Nicky or right? Oh, Mabel. Yes.

Mabel reminded me of that little fairy guy from, from, what's that Tom Cruise movie legend? Oh, boy. Okay. She was like zombie tank girl. Right. So the entire purpose of this story is them trying to find a way out of hell. And they meet a bunch of demons, a bunch of, you know, including Mabor or whatever. And there's this, they got to make it to this bridge or this portal that's going to take them back to Earth.

And within that, somehow, I even forgot the ending of this fucking movie. Because I've only seen this story once. I mean, it sounds like a great concept. Really? Yeah. Basically, they make it to the portal because there's only so much time they have before it closes.

They jump through the portal. One of them comes back in the female. I guess she's a... The conduit? Yeah, a host for the demon they were summoning. And I guess the people doing the ritual are kind of upset that that happened, so they just kill them both.

But before one of them dies, he puts Mabel's name in the book. I didn't know if that was their plan from the get-go, or they're trying to summon this demon and kill it? They tried to summon a specific demon, but another one snuck in there. That's the one that came out from under the table. Oh, right.

And they were trying to close it real quick, and they ended up, the demon, as they were closing it, the demon grabbed the two of them and pulled them back into hell. Yeah, but like at the end, though, when they came back, I was like, okay, well, where's the demon that they did summon through

or that they were supposed to summon through? Then they were supposed to like bring back at the same time. It was just those two guys and I guess the demon got stuck. But then they like immediately slaughtered the two guys and I don't understand that part. They needed that Terminator machine

that where everybody gets to go through depending on the sequel they need and just never just never closes. Yeah. By the way all these demons and and monsters that we're talking about in this story, they're right out of like a party city costume, by the way. They're not,

they don't even try to fucking give us some good shit. It's just fucking, you know, $2599 for horns and shit. I mean, look, if we have an 85 already in the works with David Breckner and some other directors, it's, you know, nowhere to go up,

nowhere to go but up from here, right? Yeah, that's true. That is true. So, uh, Pedro, as always, thanks for joining us, dude. it was fun, man. What's going on at K Fabulous?

Where can we find you on social media and what do you guys have coming up? Well, yeah, we're taking a little bit of a break right now because I've been burned out on, there's a lot of, like, cynical, like there's a lot of cynicism right now with wrestling just because, you know. No.

Brian, is that true? I mean, just from the perspective of like, either you choose AW or you choose WW. So there's a lot of talking shit back and forth. than it's becoming very juvenile and very mean-spirited in a lot of ways. So I was like, you know what, fuck this shit. I don't want anything to do with this right now. So I'm taking a break.

But we are going to come back within the month because even with all that said, there's still a lot of shit going on. Like, there's still a lot of news. We've had some great shows. You know, I know that in the last couple of days, one of the bigger news that's come out is that, you know, CM Punk's probably going to leave AEW. because he, there was this big drama.

I don't know how much you guys know about this whole drama that happened in AEW, but he's going to get a buyout. And so now the question is whether CM Punk goes back to the WWE or not. So we'll see. There is a little bump in the road in that Triple H, the owner, well, not the owner. I guess he is the owner, but he's the head guy in WWE right now. He fired CM Punk on his wedding day about eight years ago. So it's not like, you know, it's not a given that he's going to go back because there's a lot of bad blood right there.

They're going to have to. Bad blood, I would say. They're going to have to work things out. But there is money to be made. So, you know. And that's pretty much it. So thank you, thank you guys for having me again. I had a blast like usual.

And I can't wait to come back here for VHS 85 a year from now. All right. Well, you'll be, you'll be back in early January to give us your top and bottom town, right? Yes. Halloween as always. As always, right? Halloween ends is what? Bottom 10.

Bottom 10. Only number one. Yeah. Well, me too. It's going to be in my bottom 10 for sure. Well, I thought for sure this movie was going to be in bottom 10, too, the way you talked about. Maybe. Maybe.

We'll see. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your ideas. You can reach us at The Horror Returns. at gmail.com if you want to email us or just go to www. www.thehorrorreturns.com. Look for us on iTunes, rate us and review us. Next week, we're going to bring a commentary.

Am I right, Brian, the classic Halloween 3? Yes, sir. All right. Season of the Witch, right? Maybe we can get Tom Adkins on. Yeah. I'm doing much. he's old also they're gonna do with that that he's probably gonna have some stories that would be

amazing let me make it more interesting let's put some feeders out so uh pantom until the horror returns again good night