The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #346: Dead Silence (2007) & M3GAN (2023)

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

This week, Pedro Nunez joins us to discuss the brand new M3GAN as well as James Wan's Dead Silence. Cool of the Week includes Funny Pages, The Sadness, 3000 Years of Longing, and Nanny. Trailers are Scream 6, Evil Dead Rise and Renfield. The podcast spotlight shines on Never Split Up. And we get feedback from Al Ramseur, Tim Davis, Xim Vader, Mark Reid, Matt Wood, Dax Staley, Resident Awful podcast, Ricky Morgan, Marcus Wilturner, CJ DuCote, Cameron Sullivan, Dean Ferguson, John Prince, and Gee Beelow Brown. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

What's up everybody? This is Chad L. Coleman, Fred Johnson, from The Expanse, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and go, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns.

Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance and with me as always are my. co-host Philip, Brian, and legendary, legend in our minds. It's Pedro. Pedro Nunez. What's up, ma'am? Greetings and salutation. So I'm right here from beautiful Los Angeles, California. Just ready to give my top 10 and bottom 10 of the year. And happy New Year to all of you guys.

It's just where we're barely getting started here with 2023. So let's see how this year's goal. Let's see all this year goals. Yeah. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Yeah, this is our third or fourth year in a row to... No, at least, right? That you'll come on after our customers. Yeah, yeah, thereabouts. It's always an honor to be on.

And, you know, one of my favorite things to do is to be on this show. And it's going to be a very interesting year because we got that Fright Mirror meetup. That's, you know, I'm about, I would say about 90% in. So a couple little hiccups that might come up. I will be there as well. That'll be awesome. You'll be there. That's good enough for me, man.

I'm taking you at your word. And there's a rumor there may be a Lollapalooza coming up as well. I don't know. Last time I saw you, I think it was at a Lollapalooza, am I right? Was that before after I saw you at in St. Oh, you're right. That was before. I ran into Salem, Massachusetts.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Trapped in the haunted house. Yeah, during Halloween, which was pretty alpha, right? I mean, we were there when it counts. Yeah, it was a good time to be in Salem. Remember those ticket takers that were doing that Flintstones thing where they were walking with the little shack?

And we were like, is this a con or what? Because there was people. So there was this, let me paint the picture from people. There was this haunted house that you had to pay money to get into. And it's the tickets here, like a cartoon with all these arrows pointing at tickets here. And so that's where Lance bought the tickets. And we were able to get in. But then we noticed that somebody was inside the shack and they kept on moving the shack with their leg.

Like, they'll pick up the shack and then they'll just walk with it. And we're like, maybe this is not even the real guy that was selling the ticket. Maybe it's some sort of scam, right? And we're like, that's kind of weird. But that was a good time. Yeah. Yeah. It was for a haunted house scam.

And at the MBSs couldn't find her way out of that haunted house. Yeah, that was that was the fun part, man. This is how we get it tells you. All right. Well, you guys, shoot, Pedro, what's going on with you, man? Are the rumors true about KFAB and Pedro and what's going on, dude? Well, we're on a little bit of a hiatus right now. I just got a little burned out on wrestling.

I think, well, there's actually a lot of news that broke this past week. I don't know if me and Brian should go into an impromptu wrestling returns. Little mini thing here going on. But for a while there, there was a lot of animosity within the wrestling community with the whole AW-W versus WW thing. And I just got burned out on that, man. And it seemed like every time I would go online, it was like, you know, there's just competing factions of fans. But I would say, I think it's died down now. I don't know, Brian, maybe you could, you know, correct me on that.

Maybe because I haven't been on and really kept up anymore. but I don't see it as much lately as it was maybe like a month, two months ago, you know, and, you know, just people making fun of like the AEW owner Tony Khan and the way he looks. It's a very eccentric guy, so go ahead, Brian. I was going to say, I agree with you. I think it's died down a little bit, but it's still a little bit there. Yeah, because the reality to me is that we're living in a very, very interesting, and, you know, it's literally an embarrassment of riches.

when it comes to like match quality and wrestlers having jobs and just we're in a very good time right now. And I think this is going to be a very nostalgic time in about 10 years. And for us to spend all this time just kind of like talking shit about either company and just picking sides, you know, it doesn't make it that fun. So I decided to take a little break from that. But who knows, maybe we might come back, you know, early in the middle of the year. So we got WrestleMania season coming up, which is in my hometown. And there's a lot of people from the binge world that are coming to L.A., so I'm going to be here with them as well. So it's going to be interesting. Yeah. Nice. So what else have you got going on? Well, for this last, I guess I could go into my

cool of the week. Yeah, cool of the week. That's what we'll get it started. Well, I've just been kind of, catching up on catching up on a lot of the quote unquote Oscar contender movies a lot of 824 yeah already okay a lot of 824 movies you know because those

those little artsy fartsy films are the ones that tend to get a lot of attention during this time of year so I saw a couple of them that were pretty good I saw one that's called funny pages typical like 824 I don't know if any of you guys caught it

I haven't seen that one. Yeah. It's about this kid who wants to, he wants to be an artist for comic books, and he ends up hooking up with this very eccentric older guy, you know, and hilarity ensues from there. It's a pretty good move. Hilarity ensues on an 824 film?

Yes, in the 824 way, they just put it that way. Oh, gotcha. All right. Kind of like app. Kelly, is it a remake of apt pupil then? No, that's not. I saw another interesting movie. It's called Two Leslie.

I saw that one. I don't know if anybody else called that one. That one was interesting. It's about this young lady who wins the lottery, and she's a recovering, well, she's not recovering alcoholic. That's later, but she was an alcoholic. She's trying to recover. Yes.

And it's another one of those kind of A-24-ish-style storylines where it's almost like, like, as you guys know, like they kind of, they have a camera on them just for like a couple hours of their story. And then there's not really any kind of resolution. It just kind of ends. That's just the way 824 does their thing. Oh, sure, sure. More of a slice of life thing.

Yeah, exactly. So that was another one that I saw. That's pretty good. Long as it's not two, Jennifer. No, no, no, no. I remember, there's about five of those. There's two Jennifer. There's two with a two Jennifer.

There's, uh, so Jennifer returns, I think, or some shit like that, but there's a, there's a, there's a shit lot of those movies. Um, and, and that's pretty much it. I've been watching a lot of old movies. For some reason, I revisited, um, like Slither and Wolf Creek. I start those again. Because I've never seen the television show of Wolf Creek, so I wanted to see it. So, um, and I know it's on shutter, I think. So I, I, I caught up on the movies. Um, but yeah, other than that, I've just kind of been working and just kind of chilling out, waiting for baseball season to start. All right. Yeah. All right. So you're not going to, you're not catching up on all the teen wolf to see the new, uh, upcoming movie. No,

no, that's not my thing, man. Uh, uh, well, here, I'll jump in.

Um, I got a couple of not so cools. Uh-oh. You guys recommend, well, I guess you didn't exactly recommend them. I'm just a glutton for punishment. Uh-oh.

But, uh, I checked out the rec when. Did you not want to throw her in the water? Oh, no, that was the most annoying that I've ever seen a human being be in general, much less her by herself. What was the girl from Clue? It's what Alicia Silverstone. Yeah. She was terrible in that movie.

I don't even know. Like, man, they had to pay her the entire budget of the film to make that work. I've never been so angry with the character. I was just like somebody just throw this bitch in the water. I mean, come on. Wait, well, we have to set our raft on fire. What? And I watched Re-Memory, Peter Dinklage.

I've heard it wasn't great. Oh, is he like just investigating something? Yeah, I was just kind of scrolling past and clicked on that one just to see what it was like. And yeah, it was pretty boring. A lot of lot of bottles. But I do have a couple of cools, though. I watched the second season of Allison Borderlands, which it's on Netflix. Have you got seen that at all?

I've heard of it. Yeah, it's not bad. It's a Japanese horror series thing. It's like their version of Squid Game, I guess, kind of. Oh, okay. I have seen, I think, the trailer. for this. Not bad. It's a little cheesy.

It's better if it's like Japanese with English subtitles, just maybe because of the voice actors in English or make it, they give it a little extra layer of cheese on top. And like, please don't pay attention to the plot holes.

We are going. We are going to the borderlands and will you accompany us. They're like, oh, this guy said the color blue. That must mean we should go up the stairs and turn left to solve this color. Oh, that's a stretch. You know, it's like, wait, where do you come up with that logic? It's like astrology, you know?

The planets were aligned this particular way when you were born, and that's why you're an asshole. Right. But, yeah, but it was still pretty enjoyable. I like that series, and I did check out the sadness since you guys told me about it. Okay. That one was pretty fucking good, man. it's graphic as hell Taiwan horror

it was it was pretty awesome I liked it yeah you've seen that Pedro haven't you oh yeah yeah sadness okay cool alright I thought it might be I thought it might be yeah I don't know if it would have wound up like number one like it was for Nez but uh right it might inked in there into my top 10 it was pretty good yeah good movie watch good movie

um Brian you got any yeah let me go real quick uh because I'm telling the guys before we start recording, as you can probably hear right now, you might hear a hair dryer in the background. My dog is getting her hair done. It's not that bad.

So I apologize. I only got two this week. I'll start with my not-so-cool. I saw the sequel to Territrain, the 2B. Oh, no. Straight to 2-0. They put out a sequel.

I have to. I'm a completest. I guess so. Yeah, the AmityaMill stories tells us that. Yes. Pedro's right on the nose right there. They put out a sequel, I believe, two months after the first one. Just in time for a...

Ouch. And I would have to say the first one had its moments where it was like, it could have been like a cheesy, low-budget slasher movie. You could have got enjoyment that way. but the second one, the story made no sense. Like the characters from the first one returned to go back on the train. Because why not? And it's almost, they get tricked to coming on the train because someone's like setting up some kind of like celebration of the events

of the previous murders and stuff like that. And it's just really boggles your mind of why these people even think to even get on the train. And then it turns into, like, a bad soap opera. And it's just weird how it just came off. A bad soap opera. Yeah, the first one was a really bad... I think that's a knock-the-loronic statement, by the way.

The acting, it was, like, young adult soap opera. They tried to put these, like, storylines in there. And I'm just, like, just kill somebody. Just kill somebody. Just kill somebody. Just give me a reason why there's a killer. And then have the killer murder somebody. Isn't that what those movies are about or supposed to be about?

Yeah, this one just kind of went into the, like they tried to, I don't know if they decided, let's throw some more storyline into this. So we can maybe squeeze a third movie out. I don't know. I don't know. If you got Tooby, which you should have, It's free. I guess if you have nothing to do and just need something in the background, that's the only...

Some of these to be originals, I tried them. I just can't get into them. They looked like they were shot with, like, a camcorder half the time. And it's always the same shit, too. They always try to give you some soap opera shit. And all of them are the same thing, you know, and it's like, I'm not going to go. And I got to sit through commercials. Fuck that, you know.

Yeah, the production values, the production values low. Right. You couldn't even get some practical kills. Like the stab wounds were digital. The characters were just probably this is, I don't know if this counts as something that would go already on my bottom list for 2023 since it came out the last day of December. I think, I think you can squeeze it in there. Okay.

If it's still on the list by the time it rolls around, it deserves it. And you know what? If it's still on the list, it would be a pretty good year for horror, then, because it's a way early, it's where you start thinking about this shit. All right. Making it official. It's the first one on the list. All right. All right.

And, uh, movie movie. I guess I didn't, my, the next one, I don't know if it's a cool because it, it's incredibly slow. like incredibly slow Lance I kind of want you to check it out because you like your slow burns it's the new except what yeah true

true that's right it's a new movie on Amazon Nanny oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I I don't know man I saw the trailer it looks pretty creepy it has its moments it has its creepy moments. It's well

shot, well directed. I'm spacing on the director's name. She is going to direct the Night of the Living Dead sequel. Oh, wow. Okay. And she has a short film called, it's a vampire film called Suicide by Sunlight that I guess is picked up by

Jordan Peel. Oh, come on. It's going to turn into a feature length. Is he going to direct, though, or James, she's going to direct it. Okay. He's just, it's going to be through his company.

So, cool. She, she, I see a lot of good things for her coming as a director, but the story was just slow. It's a, it's about a lady. She's an immigrant from Senegal. I'm going to go ahead and watch it this week. Yeah, she gets a job as a nanny and then creepy shit happens. But it just,

It takes too long to get there. And then when something happens, it kind of is drawn out to the next thing. And it kind of has one of those endings where I guess you kind of decide what's really happening or what has happened. The ending kind of, it was weird because I watched it too. And you're right, it was pretty good. But the ending, you know, I was like, should I rewind it and try to make sense of this shit? But I was like, I'm good.

I got other shit to do and I just never went back to the other stuff. But it was one of those endings, yes, for sure. That people either like or fucking hate. Yeah, but I will say it was well made and well acted. The only thing I've seen the main actress in, she was on that DC show Titans. She was the Starfire character.

And then she was in us. Okay. She played a young, okay, you know, when the flashbacks to her, when Lepeda Niyong, those characters young. Okay. She played the mom. That was her.

Oh, she played the mom. Yeah. Okay. So those are the only two things. I remember reading, I remember reading the old Teen Titans comic books with the Perez artwork and stuff like that. And when Starfire came out,

I used to take those comic books into the bathroom for a few minutes. I'm sure you did, Lance. They had her drawn very, proportionate, I guess. What am I trying to see here? I'll definitely check it out then, Brian. That'll be my homework for this week.

And I meant to ask you, I know you've seen the apology. What did you think before you get into your cool? My feelings on the apology? Yeah. I thought it was well done. It was more of a stage play, really, than a movie. Yeah.

Because it was a single setting. But the wife fucking hated it. I was hoping she would kind of like it because, you know, Christmas and all that. But she's like, you know, do we really have to count this as one of our Christmas movies? I think it was just way too dark for her. But it's just too dark for the wife, Brian. But I like the twist and turns in it for sure. Yeah, I think it was more so the, I don't know if I really enjoyed the whole movie,

but it just kind of one of those situations where it makes you think. what would you do in that situation? Yeah, I don't think the guy would have made it that long for me. No. I was going to say, that was the thing about that movie. Like, once the big reveal, quote, because it's not really a reveal. It's the motivation, right? It's like, okay, that's very early in the movie.

So the fact that these two characters are by themselves, and then the big reveal comes out and, you know, someone admits of something. Now I'm thinking, okay, there's still like an hour and, you know, 20 minutes left. How the fuck are they going to be going to be? how the fuck are they going to keep these two characters without reacting to that news in a very violent way? And I got to give it to them. You know, I think they had more hits than misses. I think I was convinced that throughout the film, they were able to come up with ways to just keep the story going without going into the third act like, you know, 20 minutes in.

So that was good. That was good. I agree. All right, Lance, what's your cool is? What's your name? Yeah, I'll go with the nanny. We're going to go with that? Okay.

Yeah, I tried to... We're not talking Fran Drescher here, are we? No, I tried to get in that... That's horrible. I tried to get in that new Christian Bale movie before we started recording, but I didn't have time of the pale blue eye on Netflix. I watched it. It was good.

I watched it. Oh, it was good? Okay, cool. Yeah, I saw that one, too. Slow burn, talkie, but good. Yeah. Okay, cool. And it was, there's a movie called The Raven that's real similar.

to it. That's the one I was thinking. Oh, with the... I was like, have I seen this movie before? But no. What's his name? What's his nuts, as Ness would say. In the Raven? Nez is always saying, oh, it's got what's his nuts in it?

Damn, I can't remember his name from Better Off Dead. Oh, John Cusag. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, he is in that one. You're right. That's right. Okay. of the week. Well, first of all, Brian,

this is for you. I've got a, I've got a not so, not so cool of the week. In other words, it's, it was okay. And that's the adaptation of Mr. Harrigan's phone. It wasn't, I didn't hate it. Oh, that's also on my list, but we'll get to it. Have you

read it, Pedro? The novella? No, and after this, I don't want them. I don't want anything to do with Mr. Harrigant's, whatever, phone, or laptop or tablet. Yeah, somebody needs to... Throw them on in the league. Delete Mr. Harrigan's porn collection.

I will say this, Brian, the reason that I liked it is because I'm a kind of a, you're a completeist when it comes to movie series. I'm sort of a completest when it comes to film adaptation. So the closer it is to the book, the better. And it was basically word for word right out of the book, just like an enactment on screen. The ending, they might change. it just a tiny little bit, but I mean, it's not one of those exciting books with a big cliffhanger ending

for sure. So this is a book? It's not a short story? Good Lord. That's a novella. It's about 100 pages. It's about a little over 100 pages. Jesus Christ. In the book, did they did anything happen as a book? Did they at least detail the

deaths? So you can at least envision it in your head? Yeah, very, very much so. Yeah, very much so. And then he did, there one of the deaths involved the shoe shine kit in a little bit more of a graphic way which they did leave out of the movie. You're right. It was like they were making this movie

for network TV or something, right? Yeah, I wanted to see the soap. The soap scene I wanted to see that. They didn't even show it, man. And then, yeah, oh yeah, because in the book, I think that the guy like shoves the shoves the shoe cleaning kid up his ass. You know, I was thinking

when you said it was a little more graphic, I was like, maybe I'm just gross and I shouldn't go there. You're right. Right in the movie, they just say, oh, he jumped out of the window and he was holding his shoes. Yeah, I mean, I know we kind of got, we got spoiled with the sadness, with the graphicness, but I mean, come on Netflix. Okay.

All right, I'll go on about cool of the week. Okay. Also, I also my disappointment of the week that I didn't have mushrooms or acid on hand. Finally got around to see in 3,000 years of longing. Have you seen it, Pedro?

I haven't, but it's on the queue. Don't, don't, don't do it unless you've at least got something. Well, I'm drinking right now, so I might do it right after this show. Okay, just take my word

for it, man. With this dude's playing an instrument and then the instrument grows arms and also starts playing the strings along with him, you're like, oh, this is where we're going. This is a second. I'm ready for it.

I've heard good things about it, so I'm ready to check it out. Yeah, it's a fun movie, man. It's really good. It's very much like, it's like those old movies that they had. I think they were big, like in several of them in the 60s and 70s, where it was, you know, our storytelling, right? And it would go back kind of in a fairy tale style, and then it would kind of reenact the tale that's being told.

And then, you know, the other person would tell a story, and then they would show it on the screen and the other person. So it's kind of like that. I think you'll enjoy it. It's, you guys would probably all like it. But special effects-wise, I really wish I had been dripping.

At least some shrimp. Some shades of Mandy. So, yeah, 3,000 years of longing. It's good. It gives you such a click in the neck. All right.

Philip, or guys, before we move on, Pedro, uh, Every year you join us around this time, and every year you brought your best and your worst. Where do you want to start, man? So I'll start talking a little bit about the TV shows that I really enjoyed, which is a lot of the ones that were talked about last week.

You know, I really loved Dandor. I thought that there was. I mean. That's how we're going to start. Okay. No, I really, because, again, there's a lot of things. now that Disney owns Star Wars, there's so many little worlds that they could explore without fucking giving us another Skywalker story. There's so many little layers and pockets of that

universe that have gone unexplored, right? And so I think the politics, I think a lot of the kind of the internal conflict of the empire, it's something that's never really talked about. We just kind of accepted that this big fucking, you know, Gothic thing is to empower. So it's like, It's nice to see how much of a resistance there was. And then you also have some of the more like the underlying themes of like how the resistance has to kind of turn and be the monster to kill the monster. I like that whole thing. You know. I got you.

Like what's the guy? What's his name, man? The older guy from the Thor movies. What's his name? Stirl and Starz. Yeah, Starr's guy. He's like the biggest scumbag on the show and he's supposed to be the good guy. You know, but he's all about, he's all about, you know, because he's a spy, so he has to keep that going, right? And then any little threat is going to compromise that. And just the way that, like, the Mont Motho scenes as well, like she's very stressed out. I love all that shit. That's just some great acting. And you see, you see the stress and the pressure. A lot of the scenes with, like, Mon Mothra remind me of, like, the Hans Landau scenes from Inglorious Bastards, which she's like, she's like in the middle of that whole.

political scene with a lot of like high rank empire people there. And she's got to manipulate and walk through all that, right? And seeing when we're kids and we're watching all this, we don't think about the minutia of all that stuff. But we're just like, we just accept it. So the fact that Andor kind of brought us that pretty cool, you know? And then, you know, you got to have these circles double dipping as usual, which is always a plus.

You know, the guy's getting paid twice three times per franchise half the time, which is cool. I don't blame them. So that was a nice little subplot. Had it, should it gone 12 episodes? Maybe not. You know, I don't know about all that, but it still kept me intrigued the whole way. And I love, I love how that fucking show ended. The final line, because it brought a cast then, it brought him full circle, right?

It's like now he accepts that if he has to sacrifice himself, then it's all worth it. And that was awesome. So anyways. So I really like that. Sounds pretty good, Lance. Yeah, he watched it. Obviously, Pedro watched it as a grown-up. I tried to watch it as the 11-year-old kid that I was when Star Wars first came out.

So there's the difference. I'm going to hear you. I see your points, man. I am looking forward to season two. I'll tell you that. They set it up pretty nicely. I'm going to hit you with one that I felt they really hit the landing, which is kind of like people have said they didn't. And some people say they did.

I think the walking dead hit the landing. I really do. I think, listen, they had a lot of... Are we going to disagree on every literal thing we talk about tonight, Pedro? Because if so, that's going to be a lot of fun. They had a lot of masters to serve at the end, right? They had 10,000 shows that are spawning off of this show, for one. But I thought the emotional impact was there.

I really love Negan's last scene. I really love... Dixon, how he just wrote off into the sunset. The only thing was that like... He said it's all the way to France. Yeah, but the only thing is that nobody told them to leave. Like, there's no... There's not one seat in that fucking show where they told him, go discover France or Europe and see what's going on.

He just took it upon himself to just leave, you know? But I thought the characters had enough equity with me to where the emotional part really hit towards the end. And of course, they, you know, they teased it there at the end with the, with the Rika storyline. Sure. Although there was a scene there that really bothered me where he's like barefoot in the mud. And there's like, you know, like one of the zombies is trying to bite him. He came a little too close to comfort right there, man. You know, you survived this long.

Right. So it's going to end. So you go out, getting bit in the mud by a zombie. I imagine. So that's another one. Peacemaker was great. The Boys was great. But the Cabinet of Curiosityys, that was my favorite show of the entire.

Nice. Yeah. That's a good one, man. Yes, it was a great anthology show, old school style. I think all the episodes, yeah, no, I want to say it. All the episodes hit, all of them. The one with panels because models was my favorite, because that last scene there, that was a fucking trippy episode. It was.

But it was creepy in that very unsettling. Like, you know, he's good at that, right? Panos knows how it. Like, it was trippy in that very unsettling way. And it was basic when you think about it. But that ending shot of that creature just walking into the city because we know. Who knows where it goes there. I loved it.

I fucking loved it. But all of them were great, too. The one with Andrew Lincoln was a little too slow for my taste. But it hit at the end. I thought the emotional impact was pretty good. the one with the first one the one with the lot 36 that one was also good

the autopsy one was good I mean they were all really fucking good so those are that that was my favorite show of the year and that's a show that's a good pick it's like you got eight little mini movies in like one season which was great and they had some great production values

great filmmakers I'm just it just sucked that Guillermo del Toro they didn't direct one I mean because he was the host but it's He's pretty busy, right? I think he's directing one the second season. Well, hopefully, man.

But it was a lot better than fucking Jordan Peel's Twilight Zone. I'll tell you that. I mean... That's for sure. That's for sure. Yeah, he needs to stick to movies. That's why earlier

when you guys were saying that Jordan Peel was going to be the producer of something, I'm like, I'm not going to fall for this con anymore. Let me tell you. Every time they all do it. Yes. Sam Ramey did it with Ghost House

productions, right? A lot of those fucking films are shit. James Juan does it, and now we have Jordan Peel doing it. I don't mean shit. If they're not at the helm, I'm not going to go all in until I see what's going on, you know? It's not going to be like an automatic I'm in. But anyway, so that was my favorite show of the year.

So I guess now we could go to my bottom tent, but I have some honorable mentions here. The first one is Boonfall. Mufo was a big sack of shit. Do you guys ever catch that one? Yeah, that's amazing. see moonfall. That was like early last year, right? Yes, yes.

What's the name of that director? Roland Emory. Okay, so Roland Emmerich does a lot of, like, so bad, they're good movies, right? They're charming. I mean, you know, when he did Midway, he hired, like, a European to play a guy from New Jersey and the accent kept on coming in and out throughout the entire movie, which is fine. That's the charm of his movies. Okay.

This movie had no redeeming value whatsoever. It was just boring, long. Oh, man. The effects were a little shoddy. I don't know, man. It should have been one of those, like, To be originals or some shit. Oh, ouch.

Well, they didn't have asylum version of it. Remember? It seemed like an asylum version of all in Emmerx movie. Pleasant? Maybe y'all saw the moon. Are you sure y'all didn't see Moon Crash? That was the asylum version. I saw it at the theater, so I don't think I went into there by mistake.

It wouldn't have been there. Then the other animal mentioned is dash cam. Now, that's the most annoying fucking character. I enjoyed hating her. Huh? I enjoyed hating her. Oh, that fucking, fuck that movie. And then again, the aforementioned Dr. Herrickon's phone or whatever the fuck

it's called. Look, I got so bored watching this fucking movie that I started, I started time. I wanted to see. You started watching your bar of soap, huh? No, no. No, I started to see, is Donald Sutheran ever going to get out of this chair? Because, I want to see if this motherfucker got a payday just to be dragged in there, sit down and never get back up. And you know what?

I don't think he ever got out of that chair. He never got up in that chair so long you can actually watch him get older. That was it. He got paid to just come and sit on the chair. And the other kid got paid to come fucking read him stories. that's your movie. Yes, and that's a little creepy in the age that we live in nowadays.

And here's a surprising one for you all. I know that I'm going to I'm going to Lanslan for it right here. Uh-oh. I was a little disappointed with Hellraiser remake, the new one that came on. Oh, you and NAS both, man. Yeah.

It was on his list. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you know, sometimes I feel like with the Internet and their concrete way of thinking, There's certain movies that are protected to fail, right? There are certain movies that the internet will not allow to fail. And that's just that.

You know, they'll start word of mouthing it early on and this and that. And if you fail, you don't get movie. I mean, if you don't like it, you don't get movies. You don't understand something. I think this is one of those movies. I think we, everybody kept on saying, this is the spirit of what it should be. This is the Barker spirit, Clive Barker wrote. And it's like, I don't even Barker wrote a review before it came out.

Yeah, but they all do that. They're a conman, you know. How many times has James Cameron told us this is the best Terminator he's ever seen? I think he's done it like five times. They all do that. So, no, I mean, I like the Santa Bites. Got no problem with that. I just, I mean, every time you hear about this story, you always hear about how kinky it is, right?

And not one of these fucking movies has ever given us that. Not even exist this one. The fucking, the box was kind of weird. It was more like a blade. I don't know what the fuck was going on there. it was like 30 minutes too long. I don't know. It was just to me, it was like, hey, fuck it.

Like they've all done. Here's the script of an unrelated movie. Let's throw the Hellraiser thing on there and let's make this movie. I know that's not what happened here, but I'm getting that vibe. So anyways, that was my honorable mentions let down movies. But I will say that I don't think there was anything embarrassing as we've seen in the previous year. So I don't know this was a good year for horror movies. So let me talk a little bit about my, my, my, my, my, my,

So the first one is mind cage. Did any of you guys catch Mind Cage with Martin Lawrence trying to be serious? No. Uh-uh. Have you seen it? I've seen the poster. This is one of those like, this is one of those like salt. This is like one of those saw like kind of films.

But it has, it has like the supernatural ending that's got to be, you got to see it to believe it. And then you got to say, what the fuck did I just watch? So yeah. So mine cage. and just, you know, you can't see Martin Lawrence be serious. I'm sorry, you can't. You know, I mean, and he's trying to like, like, you know, he's hamming it up with the,

with his dramatic elements right here. This looks, this looks bad. And John Malkovich looks terrible. Yeah, well, he plays a quote-unquote villain, you know, so, but take that for what it's worth. The Art of the Kill is on the poster. It says the Art of the Kill. Yes. Wow, that was really original, wasn't it?

Then we have the friendship game. Now, this is one of the trailers that I saw last time I was on with you guys with the game from a Cobra Kai. Another one, like generic fucking movie. Like no heart, no soul, just by the numbers. They find this fucking weird-ass game. They play it, and then they're all going down. How many times have we seen that? Yeah, a lot.

A lot. And then it's up to this cobra Kai chick to figure it all out. And, of course, in the end, she does and happily ever after. Same shit. She used karate? No, she did it. Oh, okay. Paint by numbers movie.

Yes, but she does very, she has very, her face is, I don't want to say it like this, because this is not what I mean, but it could come up as a bit disturbing in an unusual way. She's got a very, um, rememberal face. Like I guess I was. Is this the one that plays the daughter of the karate kid? No, her rival. Her rival, yeah, yeah. Peyton List?

Yeah. Is that her name? Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, I think she used to be on a Disney show or something. She's got a very memorable face. Let's just put it that way. She's an odd-shaped head. Okay. There you go. See, Brian just took it. He articulated it way better than ever. Odd-shaped head. Thank you.

And then her eyes are a little too spaced out for, you know, my liking. But that's just me. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at her now. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Another one is... If we found out that she was part alien, it wouldn't be a little bit. that surprise. Oh, no.

Numbers, let me see. 10, 8. Number seven would be BHS 99. I was here we were in it with you guys. Yeah. It wasn't that great. Yeah. It wasn't that great. The only story we really liked was when those sororri sisters make that other chick dig

herself into the grave and they forget about her. That was the only one that we really truly like. Oh, no, no. And the game show won. That one was kind of cool. That was a good segment. That one was the only one I kind of enjoyed. Yeah.

I think that's why they're bringing in the heavy hitters to direct the segments for the next one because this one fell short. They probably saved all their money for that because there wasn't a lot of money for this one. Number 10, 9, number 7 would be Thor. I think Quillop had it on his list. That's been out of a couple of.

Thor Love and Thunder. I mean, this is what happens when, this is what happens when you give somebody the rains and there's nobody to reel them back. That's exactly what happens in this movie. Ah, okay. Yeah. Taiki Waikiki, they gave them a little too much power, right? Sure.

The Rob Zombie Trap. Yes. Or the George Lucas prequel trap, as I call it too. Okay. Gotcha. This is when they're making their movie and there's a bunch of yes men attached to their ass, you know? And that's all, and the entire, nobody sees the fucking, no, I should correct

myself. Everybody sees the train going off the rails, but nobody has the heart to say anything. And they just all go down with it, bullet train style. Gotcha. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what happened here, but everything, there's, there's not very many things that went right in this movie. Christian Bell gets completely wasted, right, as a performer, as an actor. And he came out of their saying, I'm never going to do this shit again. He's got on record as saying that because he didn't feel comfortable doing that whole green screen. You know how Marvel has their weird way up. Yeah. Yeah.

They have this factory where they make color movies where you walk in there and stuff right of green screens and shit. Well, Kristen Bill didn't like that shit. He's like, I'm not going to do this shit anymore. Yeah. Again, I think Thor got very damaged as the character. The tone was fucking weird. How the fuck do you

waste the guardians? The guardians. You have them for five minutes. I don't even think that, do they even have a line in the movie? I don't think Quillot's ones. They're just in the shooting guns.

Was it kind of like that last scene and, oh, fuck. The John Sina show we were just talking about where you can count some acts of everyone. Yeah, piecemaker. Oh, were they just kind of.

Was it that bad? No, except you could see them. That's the problem. You could see them here. That's the problem. And then you have Groot. He's like on steroids all of a sudden, which is fine because that's going to pay off

in the next one. but, you know, no, yeah, what a waste. I mean, I mean, the whole thing with the Russell Crow, that was, that was the cute bit, but it buried the entire gods. Like, so you're telling me that now, whenever the gods have to be serious or whenever they're centered to the plot in a tone that's more dramatic, what are we going to, we're going to have to go back to this movie. It's like, look, they're all clowns.

It's a big clown show, right? And it's like, oh, boy. Come on, you know. It's a good point. The little kids having power all of a sudden, because. becoming mini-gods for like the last third, the third act of the movie was fucking weird. Yeah.

There was this very... Now, here, I don't mind. I don't mind it because I'm a big G&R fan. But there is, there was a very unhealthy obsession with Guns and Roses in this fucking movie. Because I don't know how much Tyke, like Kiki paid Axel Rose, but I know it was a shitload of money

because the entire soundtrack is Guns and Roses pretty much. Oh, okay. That's the money. Oh, well, fuck it. I mean, that's what happens when you have a yesman around you. And here's the thing about that movie before I move on. So they talk shit about that movie, right? Because it really wasn't that good.

And Taika, I kick it through a fit. And he bolted. He bounced. He's not coming back. He's like, okay, well, I'm gone. That's probably fine, right? You know, the thing that pissed me off is that he shot a scene with the Grand Master, Jeff Goldblum, right? There's a scene that exists.

And he was so petty. He was so petty about the reception of this movie that he's like, no, if it's not the movie it shouldn't be. It doesn't clip the story. So I'm not even going to put it as the extra of the Blu-ray. So it doesn't, so it exists. It's not available. That's wrong. I think there was also another scene with Peter Dinklage, too. So there's two

scenes that are, you know, what the fuck? That could make for a better movie. So anyway, so that's, then we have the Munsters. That's another fucking piece of shit. Uh-oh. There you are, Brian. Now, that's another one where you have

to thread lightly in the world of the internet, right? Because there's a lot of Rob Zombie Officianados. They're what I like to call the Phantom Menace syndrome, where they'll watch a movie. They know it's shit, but their brain will not allow themselves to register as shit. So they justify

it, right? Cognitive dissonance is what we call it in our world. The mind virus. Yes. So this movie was, I don't even know what to make of it because who are, who what were you wanted to accomplish with this? Who are you trying to serve with this movie?

You were not going to serve... Exactly. You were not going to serve the fans of the original show because this is not what it was. And you were not going to serve the fans of Rob Zombie because that's not what it was either. And it was one of those movies that just went on forever. Like, I think I saw like 40 minutes of it and I thought it was like a three-hour movie, man. I was like... It was pretty long.

If I'm watching Avatar again, what's going on here? So, yeah, no, that movie fucking sucked, man. You know what he should have did? He should have took money out of his own pocket and paid for his own production of a short film version instead of getting all the rights and

spending what was it like $40 million or $50 million to make this shit. This movie didn't cost that much. It looked like it was made in his garage. So it's his fault that I can't share my account with my friends anymore. That motherfucker.

Oh, no. That's a problem. That's not good. That's not good. The next one would be Fire Starter. This movie was born into tears, man. Well deserved.

This fucking movie was boring and it was heartless. There was a scene. There's a character here that I don't think it's in the original. He's like a Native American guy, right? Oh, yeah. He also has that...

Blood quantum, that guy? Yeah. He also has... has that power. And the lady that wants to kind of get the little girl, she goes up to him and she tells him, and he's retired. He don't want to ever do this shit

no more. Right, right, right. And then, but he's got, he's, he's doing that thing where, like, I guess in his brain, he wants to be a killer, and he's trying to. So anyways, she blackmills him into going after his little girl without anything. There is no leverage. There's nothing in the scene where, like,

she's like, you're going to do it or else. And that's the other thing. Yeah, or else. And this guy saw, oh, chocks, all right. And he's always, the entire movie, he's against his will,

but there's no leverage there to keep him going forward. And it's fucking piss me the fuck off. Because, like, dude. Makes no sense. Yeah. Makes no sense. Yeah.

So, um, so anyway, so that's fuck fire stuff. Real quick, Lance, uh, yeah, the movie's budget was rumored to be $40 million, but Rob Zombie said that was untrue,

but the budget is undisclosed. Wow. So it was 60 million. Yikes. Either way, it didn't work. Yeah. So, okay, so the next one we got Jeepers, Creepers Reborn. You guys said that's on a lot of lists. What a shitty fucking movie, man. How do you get like that?

They use Marvel's green screen room for that movie. Yeah, but they forgot a shit of the green screen. That's the problem. There's some, the beginning of this movie is, it's about, a good 15 minute sequence and it leads to nothing for the rest of the movie. Like, what the fuck? Oh, man. Also, um, uh, that's such an iconic character. I know there's history with the director and he's a pedophile and shit like that. But, but the, the actual character, that's a pretty popular character, right? So for him to get bastardized in a film like this was really tragic. Um, then, uh, I got, I got three more. Then it would be pray for the devil,

which I think was another one of Phillips picks last week. That was just boring, man. It was just so inspired. Yeah. And the thing about me is that I got the AMC Stubbs car shit and I got to use it. I did too. So I go to these fucking movies, even though I don't want to. Let's be real about it.

But I should really be thinking like that because that defeats the purpose. But sometimes I do it. So this is one of those movies. And then, you know, there's a blonde nun, which I didn't even think that was possible. but for whatever reason there is. Yeah. Her hair was clearly dyed blonde. I didn't know Duns were allowed to do that.

But she's like she gets approval to do like these exorcisms and all kinds of weird shit. But at the end of least to nothing because the third act is so boring and uninspired because the thing is that you have two acts to help us connect to these characters and they failed. So all you're doing up to a certain point is waiting for this fucking movie to end

and when it does, you just feel like you just wasted your time. So pray for the devil. was my next one. Then these next two were it's number two and then it's like a big old space and then my worst fucking movie. So number two

would be they, them. That's my number two. Another very uninspired movie. I don't like the fact that this was promoted at a lot of things and none of them came true. One of them was this awesome, just fun slasher movie. And really what it was, it was, it was like a public announcement,

would you say that? And also, it was a drama, really, with, like, sprinkles of, like, kills here and there. You know, Kevin Bacon, you know, he was looking to buying that new house of his with that money. He didn't give a fuck. You know, it was just kind of like, let me cash out here.

The one that's bigger on the inside when you measure it than the outside? Yeah, the loaded weapon one was the, right? It was the most of us with the little army. And my number one, now, this movie is going to go down. This is Black Christmas level of hate at this point. I'm talking about Halloween ends. Oh, like, and you know what? I unloaded my gun with it.

Yes. You know what? I don't have it in me anymore. I don't have it in me. All the justification for me. for this movie, all the praise. It's all denial. I haven't heard one person come at me with a legitimate reason

where this movie's any good other than just being in denial. The poor defense of, oh, it's, you know what bothers me about some of these internet feedback is it tries something different. When they're trying something different correlate with it being good. Like, there's this idea now that, oh, you think outside of the box, that means we have to respect that. No, we don't. If it sucks, it fucking sucks.

and Halloween ends fucking suck. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, so that, that's one of the biggest places this movie gets. It tries something good. That's fine. But don't promote it as a trilogy that's going to make sense when you watch it back to back to back. Because that's not what this is. Not at all.

Not at all. This is these motherfuckers having free reign. And David Gordon Greenhead's on our record. It definitely seemed like not a Halloween movie that got slapped with a Halloween label. Yeah. Is this Howl-Razer or what the fuck? I mean, yeah, you're right. Right. And then there's like, not only that. So, so, so, so that's one issue, right? Then we have issues with, like, not even, not even following your own rules. Like, how is it that this motherfucker would stood a whole town whooping his ass and then this fucking nerd, whatever, Richie Cunningham or whatever the fuck his name was, he fucking takes him down, like, you know, and takes his mask off. I know he's all beat up and shit, but, you know, come on, is Michael Myers here.

That's not accessible. So there was things that were that happened to serve the plot. And I hate when they do that. It's like, fucking follow your own rules if you're going to establish them, you know? That ending's fucking stupid. You build up this Richie Cunningham guy for fucking weeks or whole fucking movie. And then all of a sudden, he gets one in the neck and he's done. No, he gets stomped on too.

I forgot. He gets a boot to the head as well. You know what was fucked up, though? It's like, it's like Devin Goring Green's like, you know what? I fucked up this franchise, but if I can't have it, no one can. Because he fucking kills. He kills Michael Myers. Like, there's no way to bring this motherfucker back. Unless you're going to start over again, which I'm sure they probably will. I hope so. I don't know. This was resurrection level bad, man. It was pretty bad. I agree, man. That was my worst as well, as you know.

And so that was my bottom 10 of the year. Just fucking, I'll never watch any of these again. All right. Let's cleanse our palate, and come on. You're killing it. You're breaking us down. Okay. So really quick, I'm going to go through my tops. Okay, honorable mentions. I got old man with Stephen Lang. I really love that movie. I loved it. And it was, what is it? It's two actors in a little cabin or whatever, right? It seemed like it was a difficult challenge, but they pulled it. I love bullet train. I thought that was such a great time at the movies. Again, the sadness, the sadness got bumped, but it was hovering in my top 10 for a while. I really like Violent Knight as well. Now, I love Violin Night. Don't get me wrong.

Great movie. But did you guys feel that it never really took it to that third gear? Like, I felt like it was about so then something would happen and then it would pull back a little bit and then it would start again. We never saw like that real true bonkers scene that that premise kind of calls for. We just never did. I mean, there's that whole chimney scene, which was pretty cool. But that was just, you know, one actor. John Lekwizamo, who's getting all kinds of paydays, by the way.

God bless them for that. I saw, I really, now this is one might get me a little heat here, but that's fine. I like bones and all. I really did. Okay. I don't like the people that, you know, when people say nothing was happening, it's like, what do you mean? You could follow the storyline of what's going on, you know? Yeah.

I thought they hit that whole young adult mixed with a lot of gore and horror. I thought they hit it perfectly. Like the tone, it could have easily been really unbalanced, but the way that filmmaker did it, I thought it worked. And then, of course, there's that creepy guy. What's his name? The one that was stalking the protagonist? Sully.

Yeah, Sully. That motherfucker was creepy. Yeah, and I thought they kind of built up that kind of whirled up, the eaters and the rules that they have. Yeah, yeah. You could send some like. Like, you know, Run Sweetheart Run was another one that I really enjoyed. Yep.

For the premise being so simple, I thought it was a great little story. And it was, you know, beginning to end, it was very entertaining. And then Deadstream, of course, you guys talked about it last week. I really liked Deadstream a lot. Deathstream and the sadness both kind of remind me of like a Sam Ramey kind of early Peter Jackson vibe. Oh, yeah. I love both. I like it.

I like it. A movie that I saw that, I don't know if you guys have seen, is the leech. Did you guys get to see The Leach? I saw the Leach. Yeah, with the priest that, oh, son, you can come stay at my home. The Lord, the Lord rewards those who help others out. Lars, what did you think of it? Very well, did he?

I liked it, man. I loved it. I liked the way that it was that slow, it was kind of like that slow burn where the guy gets, like he gets away with this, so now he pushes to this. and then he gets away with it. And then all of a sudden his chick shows up. And then now they're both pushing him. And then like the turnaround at the end,

like, was like, what was going to, I don't want to give anything away because it's a pretty new movie. But like that point at the end, I was kind of like on the fence, is he going to do it or is he not going to do it? You know, so I enjoyed it. And the whole gaslighting aspect of it and him fighting with his own relationship.

Sure, sure. I loved it. I loved it. That's like the whole Jeremy Gardner, because they always, that bunch of black crew always done, They always do a bunch of movies together, right? So they have a bunch of movies out.

And they're always pretty good. Okay, so I think that's it for my honorable mentions. Now, okay, no, no, no. I got one more, and this was hard to take out. The black phone? No, that's a little higher on my list. Oh, okay. My number 10, I had to choose between two movies and it was hard.

But I'm going to do it right here live on the air. I have to choose either Nope or Barbarian. and I'm going to go with that far down? Yes. Because both, I have issues with both of them. But no.

Fair enough. Yes. Kiki Palmer is one of the issues. So my issue with Barbarian is that it was a great film, right? But a lot of it is so much, is this going to become like the modern

like the sixth sense? Like, because I don't know if the impact is going to be as felt in repeated viewings, right? Ah, okay. I see what you're saying. I saw his open. weekend and I was like, holy, I didn't even know, I didn't even, right. Justin Long's in it for the

people that never seen it. I didn't even know he was in it. And that in itself, like, popped me. When I saw that, it got me too. It got me too. Yeah. Because, you know, whenever he's in one of these movies, he's going to bite it. I don't think he's ever come out of any of these movies alive. And so, and so once he's in it, that's cool, right? And then you're, a lot of the, a lot of the hype behind this film is the storyline and what drives it. And once you see, at once, I don't know how much the impact is going to be there, right? Although the third act, it is filled with a lot of, like, high tension moments that give you some repeat value. But now, now we know how they're going to end out, though. So, yes. Yeah. So that could, that could

hurt. Yeah. Well, what did you guys think of the, of the backstory? Did you guys think it revealed too much with, with Richard Blake? I liked it. I don't, I don't think it. I don't think it's, revealed enough. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It was kind of people. I'd like to see that movie. I'd like to see that movie. Yeah, yeah. I do like that shower where he's going into his car with the trunk

and then it comes back and it's like, it goes from the old neighborhood to like back in the day. That was pretty cool. So my number 10 is nope, right? Now, I have issues with this movie too. I think the third acts a little, like I'm not really convinced, but it was still, I like the message of it. I like the act. I like the

acting. I like the first act is like all fucking Tarantino-ish dialogue, which I thought was cool. It's just kind of introducing you to the characters. And it's like what distinguishes great writing from poor writing is like you're getting to really get to know the characters and you're relating to them. And you know, it's like you're kind of

watching, you're kind of kicking back with them, which is great. So I thought the middle part where they're trying to get the alien so that they could take a film of him and then like salad and become famous. I thought that was also really good. That's really where the meat of the of the action comes in.

I thought Michael Winkaw getting a payday was awesome because I'm a huge fan of the crow. So, hence my name, Draven. So seeing him come up with his raspy voice is always a plus in my book. So yeah, so nope is my number 10. Jordan Pilt did another great job. I don't think he's ever done a bad movie.

A little overhype, maybe, but he's never done a bad movie. My number nine is prey. Bringing the predator back to where it fucking belongs. you know, bringing them back, you know, going back to the fundamentals, you know what I'm saying? And just the way, the way they build the action scenes, you know, they did have some fan service shit with like, you know, the whole, what is it? If it bleeds, we could kill a line or something like that. And they had the gun, which, I don't know.

I think when you see that gun, I imagine that they're not, those people, other, other priors came back and took them out to get their gun back. I don't know what happened there, but something happened. So, Prey was pretty awesome. Then we have X. I love X. I thought that movie was like old school grindhouse from the 70s. You know, just everybody always says, I want to make a movie like grindhousing from the 70s. Fucking Ty Wes did it.

Just that nothing really happens. You get into the characters, but there's that sense of dread around the entire movie. You know what I'm saying? And just how the kill start kind of escalating as the movie goes along. and also how Pearl kind of starts to just, you know, show her true colors as the movie goes along. And so many unanswered questions, too, which I like. That's what those grindhouse movies were because back in the day, it wasn't like the filmmakers had this big plan. They just didn't have any money.

So it was all very basic. And so you're left with all these questions. Like, what the fuck? What was the motivation behind that? So that was my number eight. My number seven was the black phone. All right. Now tell Lance why he's right.

wrong. There's a lot of reasons why he's wrong. So, no, I thought this movie was very overt, man. I'm listening. I mean, I'm not going to try to change your mind, lands. You've already made up your mind. Okay. You're not going to tell me to step back, wind up, make a pitch, hit the bad guy, and run out the door?

Well, we've done that many times, and it does nothing. Okay. You're like Luke Skywalker and fucking, what was it, the last Jedi, where we fucking blasted it with everything we have and then you just dust off your shoulder, you know, so. No, but I thought this movie was very original. I mean, what is in there to like about this movie?

It's got that Amden Entertainment vibe to it. You know, it's got fucking Ethan Hawk being creepy as fuck. You know, this man has no ego whatsoever because he was like, I'm going to make an entire movie and you're not going to see my face. But with his body, he's doing all that performance. I don't know about the brother, though. that story like kind of, how is it that this guy did all that shit and the fucking brother is like, he doesn't know what the fuck is going. I know he was high on fucking cocaine half the time. I was about to say cocaine to hell of a drug. Now, there is a part of this movie that really pissed me off for the wrong reasons. I was having a great time with this movie. There's certain movies where I'm just captivated, right, because it's so original and I'm really into the world that they're in. But when the kid breaks out, when he didn't hog is asleep,

Like, the time doesn't match. Like, it takes forever to get out of your fucking house. Get in the van, start the truck, and fucking take off. But the way the kid ran out, all that shit happens. And the kid's only like, fucking, he barely passed the yard. He's barely past the fucking front of the house. And I'm like, get the fuck out of here with this shit. You know?

And so that almost lost me. That rocked me a little bit. But I came back. They got me back, though. I love how all the kids, like, the way they used the kids, right? the way the kids were guiding him through the phone. There's a lot to be said on what, like there's metaphors here. I love how, how like, in a way, how tragic the Ethan Hawke character.

He never gets the name. What is he like, the trapper or the whatever? The grab her. Yeah, they never, so he goes unexplored against. That's the kind of shit that I like. What's the fun with this guy? Why is he so, how has he been living like this for years? Because this motherfucker has money.

He's got two properties. You know what I'm saying? so we know he's got money. And so, no, I really fucking love this. His brother buys a shitload of cocaine. They got money. Maybe they were starting dope the entire time. Probably.

Yeah, probably. That's the back story. Now, no, and then I really would love to see, like, just how, like, an entire story of, like, like, that fucking creepy van that he drove around. Like, just, you know, somebody being stalked by that van. That was also creepy. and that's really not part of the movie but I wish we would have seen more of that

but no the black phone was awesome man and you could watch it over and over again and I felt like other than when he fucking ran down and you know ran three steps what this motherfucker got in the van and you know all that shit found the keys and throwing some shoes

right right that's why the kid was a pitcher not an outfielder he didn't have that speed but he didn't have no speed whatsoever man what about if Ethan how good a trip What about if the fucking brother would have been so high, he lost the keys to the van?

Was he just going to come out like that with the fuck with shirtless, with the fucking mascot? And I like how the neighbors didn't know shit either. And this has been going on for like at least a year, right? Yeah, two different. And I thought that one dude, the guy from Lost, what's his name? The one that was the dad, he had a mullet in this movie. Oh, I can't do this name. Seven Prior Ryan guy, the coward and seven prior Ryan.

He did great as the dad. And then I thought the little girl was phenomenal. Her acting was great. I mean, all these fucking things. I like how all the kids had their own little character to them. Like, it wasn't just these throwaway like two-dimensional characters. Like, for the little time they were on screen during the flashbacks where we got to see them alive, like they had characters to them. You had that guy that liked to fight.

You had that smart kid. I mean, they all had something about them that when you put it together. help kill fucking Ethan Hawk's character, which was awesome. See, there's payoffs

here, Lance. What's your problem? All right. What's your next one? All right. Where the fuck are we at? Oh,

yeah. My next one is smile. I like smile. Nice. All right. I don't think we'll agree. We're all in agreement again.

We're all smiling again. Now, was it in any of all of your top? I don't remember. Maybe I was, you know. Anyway.

It's mine. I don't think. I put it in mind, but it was a good movie. The only thing to me as being a snob of all this bullshit that frustrated me from time of time was that it did rely on the false scares

way too much. Like a little jump scare, huh? The little jump scares that were not earned. Right, right. Like half of the movie is that, right? And then... And dream sequence stuff? Yeah, yeah, I should get annoying after a while. Right. But I love the mythology. I think this has sequel potential written all over. I love it's one of those movies that the curse kind of follows you.

You know, we've seen that done before, right? The person that grabs it or something, they have to now deal with all this shit and they have to pass it on to the next person, et cetera, et cetera. We've seen that. I love the ending. I love the struggle of the lead character because she was going through some psychological issues herself.

So I love all this shit. You know, it was one of those played out metaphors for grieve, right? the grieving thing, which I think is getting played out, by the way, in Hollywood. We've seen a lot of that fucking grieving shit

already. It was cool in the beginning but I was getting played out. So, so yeah, so that was smile. Okay. Then we have,

now this movie was fucking awesome. I want to, I've only seen it once. I want to see it again. The menu. I love this fucking movie. All right, good one. It's on HBO Max now.

Yeah, I want to check out of here. Again, I love the metaphor of this movie. You know, because at the end of the day, you could, you could come at me with all that boogey shit. But I just want a fucking cheeseburger, man. That's all I really want.

Sure. I love the motivation of the, of the, I guess you would say the lead bad guy, how you lost all your passion. Because everything around you just gets so fake, right? And everything, there's no purity there anymore. So I love all that. I love how we're revealing things little by little. John Nequezamos also in this one. And so that was, yeah.

He is. there's a lot of tension in this movie which is good so if people haven't seen it's on HBO Max check it out then this one was just fun I had a fucking great time bodies bodies bodies oh yeah I fucking love this movie man

especially when we get the reveal now I know there's a lot of people that have said oh I knew the reveal don't say well hasn't seen it okay Ryan have you seen it Phillip yeah yeah I saw it

it's been up for a while Spoilers. Minor spoiler alert. Yeah, I didn't say anything, though. But yeah, no, I thought all the, you know, it played against, it's a burden of your expectations, you know, you're thinking, oh, this person's doing it. Just the way it kept you guessing, and it was like an old school slasher film, you know, this was a great fucking movie.

And it was, I think it was somewhat original, you know. I mean, it's hard to be original with that, with that concept. Very true. And somehow they found a way to do it, because it all came down to one dude just fucking up. up and that was that started the entire shit um it wasn't great to reveal yeah then we had one that i didn't think you guys ever saw uh the retaliators you guys never saw that one huh never saw let me let me look it up right now you go ahead yeah it's again it's it's kind of reminiscent of like you know uh big bad

wolf from years ago you know where yes okay somebody is going after uh what they perceived to be the killer of one of their loved ones. And this movie is so bonkers that that's all I could say because it just takes all these fucking weird ass turns. I never even heard of this one, dude. Yeah, hopefully it'll be streaming soon. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of mixture of genres.

You have like fucking drama there. You have like zombie horror later on. You have all kinds of shit. And it was just fun and original. So that's the one that I'm going to put at my number three. Now, my number two... I'm going to watch this this week if I could find it. I'll just rent it.

Yeah, it deserves it. Now, number two is that little engine that could... That's Cinderella story known as Terrifier 2. I fucking love this movie. That was on your list, Brian. Yes. I saw it opening day at the theater. And, you know, you see that runtime, and it scares you a little bit, don't it?

Like, you see it like, come on. There's no fucking way that a... movie at this level with this kind of themes and concepts requires two and a half hour runtime. There's no way. So it's going to be pretentious. It's going to fucking get weird when you're seeing it with people that are expecting an hour and a half fucking slasher movie. But no, we sat down, you know, packed house and everybody had a good time and those two and a half hours fucking ran fast. You know, I mean, I think the third act, I think it has one of those like continuing, you know, some movies find to that trap where they

kill the monster like 30 times before the movie ends. Oh, yeah. I think this movie kind of falls into that trapped a little bit. But besides that, I mean, it's just a great movie introducing a new, kind of like a new icon, right, a new monster that I think we need it. I think Megan and Art the Clown are the two big revelations of the last six, seven months where people are going to be able to monetize them now, unfortunately. Oh, yeah.

When we're in part seven, so either of these movies, get back to me and see what we're at. All right. And so that was my number two. And then my number one. And this is just a fucking great movie all throughout. I was watching it. My jaw was dropping the whole time for different reasons. Pearl.

I fucking love Pearl. And maybe it resonated with me because this is my, you know, I'm a therapist. That's what I do for a living. So I see a lot of people with behavior problems. I see a lot of females with behavior problems. And the details, the details from the escalation of movies, of mood to the justification, to the internal dialogue. I was like, holy shit.

Like, this is all spot on shit, right? Like just, and so maybe I'm biased in that sense, but I thought this was a great fucking movie. And I thought the way it was shot. And to me, I'm thinking, dude, Tywlett shot this in his spare time because it's because he had the crew there from X. And I'm like, this was a masterpiece, dude. Like, you know, and the fact that it was the same like ranch, the same.

little location. There was metaphors up the ass there with the fucking rotting pig in the doorstep. Like, this was a great fucking movie, man. And I think this is, this is in my top ten just movies in general. I just horror movie. This was a really good fucking... Nice. Okay.

And then Mia Gott's performance, like, you know, it sucks that she's in the horror genre and, you know, they tend to go unrecognized, but it was still a fucking performance. Right, right. I love that ending where she's just kind of looking at the camera and, like, faking that smile and, you know, very evil-ish. so I'm you know write me down for Maxine because I'll be their opening weekend okay yeah so that's all right

my top ten some good ones man and the black and the black phone movies fantastic it's on Amazon power Lance if you want to watch it again I'll check it out again in the meantime I'm going to check out the retaliators

for sure yeah I'll check that sounds like I thought you said you try to say it out twice right didn't you give it a black phone. Yeah, I did. I did. I tried to find time to watch the black phone again. So I can, I'll give you guys my word that I'll, I'll watch it again. Absolutely.

Especially if it's own crime. Why not? This year? Probably, probably. So, Brian, are there any headlines this week? We got some headlines since we haven't done this in, I don't know, about a month. Yeah, there's a lot of holidays.

We will start with this was a no-brainer. Actually, it wasn't a no-brainer because last week there was a little rights issue with the Wednesday show. There was rumors that it was going to go back to Amazon or the second season was going to go to Amazon because Amazon bought MGM and they owned the rights to the Adams family. Apparently they must have settled some kind of dispute because Netflix officially announced Wednesday season two

Okay Let's see Tim Blake Nelson joins the cast of Doom Part 2 in an undisclosed role which is interesting because they

already started production Okay I was going to say Aren't they like Shouldn't they be done with that by now? Yeah I think they're almost done It's also coming back to the MCU

right? Yeah as the leader Yeah Yeah like what is it 15, 16 years, almost 20 years after he originally started that character. Yeah, from the Ed Norton Hulk movie. Yeah. Yeah.

According to James Wan, the next Conjuring 4 movie might be the final one in the franchise, which is probably because he's no longer with Universal. That might be a good thing. They don't want to keep going on that before it dies. Finish it up. Lance, this is a lot of. This is right up your alley. Darren Aronofsky is working on a Black Swan musical. Like a Broadway musical or like you put on film?

Broadway musical. Oh, okay. Pedro, we gotta get tickets, man. If we can meet in Salem, we can meet in Manhattan. I went in for that Black Swan musical. Maybe we'll meet up with Jason and the scream, the scream killer. when we're in Manhattan, right? Jason Blum says not to get your hopes high on freaky death day happening anytime soon. There was a lot of rumors of a crossover movie.

Both actresses wanted to do it, but he said, don't get your hopes of any time soon. But he said, you never know. Okay. Are you referring to Vince Vaughn as an actress in this case? I hope so. No. Well. Okay.

I was talking about the female actresses. All right. Vince Vaughn died, didn't you? What? Snow, like in the movie. Oh, shit. Okay. You got to do that.

Don't do that to me, dude. Don't do that to me. Jesus Christ. Let's see. Well, Pedro, we know Michael's going to come back somehow. I'm right? I don't know how after that. That big grinder.

That atrocity. It's a bunch of little mini-Micha's, the pieces of them. Like the Evil Dead. Yeah, like the subspecies movies. They did that too. Right? Oh, no. All right.

I'm trying to make sure if there's anything else. The new movie, 65. Have you guys seen that trailer with Kylo Ren? Uh-uh. No. No. It's kind of futuristic, kind of like... I heard it.

Like they go. They land on a planet. It's one of those movies where they're looking for another planet to live on, and he lands on the planet, and there's dinosaurs and shit. It kind of looks like maybe 65 million years ago we landed here, and something happened to where we were lost all technology. Oh, Philip, that's right up your alley. That is right at my alley.

interesting. Well, it originally was supposed to come out later in March, but it changed its release date to March 17th. Check out the trailer, Phil. Okay. Yeah. That's the feel like yet. Yeah, I saw a picture of it and read a little synopsis.

It looks cool. And I like Kyle O'Ren as an actor, man. He's pretty good. Yeah, it was good in that white noise movie. I liked it. Okay. Frank Grillo could possibly return for the Purge six. Hey, anytime he gets a paid day, I'm on board.

Put a fucking fork in it. Yeah, but put a fork in the purge, guys. Come on. Really? Go out with a bang. That last one kind of sucked. Jason Blum doesn't want to give us these crossovers, which would be original, but he gives us more purge movies. Come on, man.

Hey. Fete Alvarez's Alien film is set to begin filming in a couple months. Okay. But we don't know, like, where this fits in. Alleged. No. It's supposed to be an original story. I don't think they're rehashing to Ellen Ripley. Start over again.

Yeah, I don't know. If they go in the predator route, they might be able to salvage it. Yeah. Let's see here. Do we get anything else? Showtime's already renewed yellow jackets for a third season before the second season even comes out.

I was going to say the second season hasn't come out yet, right? Wow. Okay. But that kind of worries me more because they got to give us something in the second season, man. I mean, that first season, I know I got over and people were fucking losing their shit and all that, but they didn't give us shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, literally like from the pilot all the way to the last episode, like, we didn't learn anything. You know, it was, so give us a little sum for the second season.

Even though I'm concerned because now that they have a third season, they got to stretch the shit out even more. Right. I tried to lost us. Chloe Akuno, who lasted The Watcher, or Watcher, she's going to direct the next Fair Street movie from Netflix. Okay. I like those movies. Yeah. Greg Nictero, a lot of people, awesome effects guy.

A lot of people recently know him from The Walking Dead. He wants to remake The Keep, Michael Mann's The Keep, but be more original to, I guess, the book. All right. He's got a thousand shows that he's supervising, but good luck to him. A couple of things. A couple more things. James Juan wants to remake Chopping Wall and Night of the Three.

Now, that's a remake. That would work, right, Pedro? That'd be fine. With the technology today, I guess it could. Philip, what do you think? You down? Yeah, I'll watch it. Hey, I'll watch anything that James Wan.

does. I even get duped into watching his produced bullshit most of the time. That's what I was going to say. I'm down if he's actually the one remaking them, not his company. Yes, we do. Kids don't go to the malls anymore, though. How are they going to work their way around that? That's a good point.

That's true. Maybe it'll be a throwback. Did we lose Lance? Now, can you hear me? Yeah. Okay, we can hear you. Okay, yeah, no, I'm getting a slow speed, so I turned up the video for a minute. Gotcha. Okay.

And lastly, the new Exorcist film had to stop production because of health reasons with the main star Leslie Odom Jr. And it was also because God went down and said, don't fuck this shit up. That's going to say, must be a curse. From what I understand, it's not an illness to where they had to recast. but they just had to shut down production. And we last seen Leslie Odom Jr. in Glass Onion. He was the scientist. Great movie.

And I think that's it. We'll get a new trailers for... We'll get a new trailer for Ari Aster's next film, Bo is Afraid, which was retitled from the disappointment. Boulevard. So new trailer for that coming next week. Check it out. But in the

meantime, Pedro, you ready? So go to the trailer park? Yeah, let's do it, ma'am. Okay. So we're going to bring you the big, the small, and sometimes they're very, very weird. And I saw all three of these in the movie theater this week, which is nice. So what's

the first new trailer, Brian? Uh, the first one is a teaser, which, uh, just for future reference, I will not be watching anything after. No new, no new, I was supposed to get a new trailer for this, a full trailer, but I'm not going to watch it. I think this was perfectly fine for what it was. And that it was the teaser for Scream 6, a quick synopsis. And the next installment, the survivors of the ghost of the ghost face killings leave Woodsboro behind to start a fresh chapter in New York City. it's pretty much the entire cast from the original well the ones that lived are coming back along with Courtney Cox

no Nev Campbell Hayden Panitieri will be returning as Kirby and our girl Samara weaving will be making an appearance along with the Tony Revolo I don't know how to say his last name okay

The asshole from The asshole from Spider-Man. Peter Parker is the guy that picks him. Oh, I don't know who you're talking about. Flash. Flash. Yeah. Okay. I got you.

Yeah, that guy. Yep, he'll be a victim. Dermott Maruni. First victim. Or Dylan McDermott. Which one? Dermott Maroon. Can't tell the difference.

They're both struggling for payday, so either one would happen. Right. This is, of course, directed by Radio Silence again. Now, let's be real here. Let's go, I'm going to go on record right now. Yeah, let's get real. I'm going to put it where it counts. I'm going to go ahead and make a prediction right now that,

and this is my wrestling mind going off right now, because in wrestling, they do this all the time. I'm going to go ahead and say right now that Neff Campbell will be in this movie, and the fucking theater is going to explode. when she's the killer. She's the killer. I don't know if she's going to be the killer.

Oh, no. Right? That's a full statement. I'm calling it right now. I'm with you right now. I'm with you, Pedro. When she gets revealed in a movie, the theater's going to explode

and then she's going to do a heel turn. All right. Hey, I'll take it. At this point, what else could you give us, right? At this point, what else could you give us? Yeah. As long as they don't spend the first two X on a boat and then finally go to

Atlanta, it landed in Manhattan. God, I took that one for me. And one more prediction, sadly, I know we're all big friends, big fans of Samaria. I wish we were big friends of Samara. Friend of the show? Not yet.

I think she's going to be that one that gets killed in the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Oh, no. I don't think she's got the mainstream appeal for that. They need somebody with a little more spunk for that for that role. I mean, she's with us. She's over the way with our community, but.

I think the general public, when they see her, they'll be like, oh, shit, it's Margarabi. That's a good one, Brian. They couldn't even bring that up in the movie since they're so meta anyway. Right? Yeah, they should. They should. All right. So there's a lot of predictions going on here.

People went on a limb on this show right here, so. A little bit, yeah. little bit. Brian's going all in with Neff Campbell being the killer. That's a little bit of fun. That's brave. That's brave. Would not surprise me.

You're probably right. It wouldn't say, Brian. Any, any, I mean, this is pretty much, from what I understand, this is, they said this is going to be the most violent movie out of the franchise. They're up in the kills. I've seen some, some, uh, photos of a ghost face holding the shotgun so I'm I'm hoping we'll get a shotgun to the head a nice head explosion something like that right caught you're gonna hold the shock up um I'm

I I the only thing I'm kind of wondering where they're gonna go with is the whole the the main girl not not Jenna Ortega but the what was her name her sister Yeah. Jen or take a sister. Let's just color that. Melissa. I can't think of the actress. Okay.

Yeah, the whole she still talks to her dead father that she's never met her scene. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my daughter pointed out, if she's never met him, why is he kind of, why does he look like the way he did when he died? Smart girl. Smart kid. So I'm just wondering where they're going to go with that whole angle. You know what?

And they are so lucky. They could count their lucky stars on this one. They're so lucky that they didn't kill off Jenna or Tegov because she's like, she's in the stratosphere now. So have they killed her off from the last one? Absolutely, yeah. So now that's going to help with the promotion of the movie because, you know, she's way over now,

way more than she was a year ago. That's true. Yeah, I like the whole subway scene killing thing. It looks pretty good. Yeah, I mean, if they play their call. Hard's right with Jenna Ortega. She could be the new final girl for the franchise for the foreseeable future. Yeah, but keep in mind that that payola isn't going to have to get a little higher, you know.

You're going to have a couple more zeros on that paycheck. So yeah, you have a problem with that. Found the new it, girl. It's, it's paramount. They'll throw money at her. All right. They wouldn't, but yeah, you're right. It's paramount.

Yeah, Scream 6 in theater. March 10th. All right. Back like the old school way where they were getting them once a year, like those nightmare and hours by the 13 movies. Just like,

like Santa Claus delivering once a year. Once a year. All right. Second trailer, Evil Dead Rise. We finally get the trailer. Quick synopsis.

A twisted tale of two estranged sisters whose reunion is cut short by the rise of flesh possessing demons, thrusting them into a primal battle for survival as they faced a nightmarish. Sorry, got cut off. Nightmarish version of family imaginable.

Makes no sense. This stars Alicia Sutherland, Lily South. That's Silverstone though, right? We don't need her. No, Alicia. She's still floating on a cabin somewhere in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. Lily Sullivan, Morgan Davies, Neil Fisher,

Jaden Daniels, and this is directed by written and directed by Lee Cronin, who Lance, he did the hole in the ground. Okay, that was a good one. That's a good movie. Have you seen that, Pedro? Yeah, yeah, no, I liked it. It's an Irish movie, right? That's a good one.

Yeah. All right. Yeah. I'm all in. This is exactly what I want. I mean, it's, I feel like you can continue to make these kind of movies. Just drop the Necronomicon in different scenarios and different locations and just

have a story like that and just give me, give me the gores, give me the, the, the, just everything. And, um, that, that, I sent you guys the, the, the red band trailer, because, uh, you didn't get all the head scalping and the cheese grater. And Lee Cronin, he came out and said, the Lee Cronin that came out and said that the, what you saw in the Red Band trailer was only 10% of what you're going to get in the movie. Wow.

Uncomfortable chills. They used a lot of blood. They used a lot of blood in the filming of this movie. Yeah, it's going to be hard to top Fetty Alvarez's version of this movie, but hey, we'll see what happens. I'm like you, Brian, I'm all in. I'm excited. This is probably my most anticipated movie of the year. Just the fact that we're, you know, the trailer's just really one scene, right,

where the mom's kind of breaking the eggs or whatever. And then they just kind of stretch it out. So just I always like that because that tells me that the filmmakers, there's a lot of, there's a lot they don't want you to see just yet. So the fact that they stretch out these scenes like that, there's a lot to come. And even in that scene, there's a lot of shit going on already. When I first heard the comment, concept of this movie. I was thinking like demons

too, right? Like demons two takes a big skyscraper or like a big apartment complex. And that was all in then because I was like, that's pretty fucking cool. But now, I don't know, it seems like it's at a house, but there's other houses attached to it. So yeah, no, it's going to be a great time.

It's going to be a great fucking time. So I'm going to be there for sure. That's in April or March? April. April. Okay. Wonderful. I'm going to, I'm going to we're doing predictions tonight. We're going to get a lot more deadites throughout the movie because it's in an apartment complex.

Oh, yeah. I don't, I don't think it's just set in this one apartment. I think they're going to get out and run into other scenarios. Bruce Campbell? Bruce Campbell's not in it. He's just an executive producer, but you never, you never know of Bruce. We know better than pop up anywhere. Yeah, okay.

Maybe it can't even at least. Papa's pizza rolls or whatever it was. If it does come out, I mean, the place is going to explode, so it's going to be... Right. Especially if he's the killer, Pedro. And I'm looking forward to the performance of the main actress, the one that's being possessed, because she's just fucking creepy throughout the trailer, the scene where she's just at the peephole and said, you know, open up, you know,

and the daughter's like, you don't look so good. And she's like, ain't nothing but a kiss from you is going to help. And then the scene at the end where she's like calling for her mom, and she's like, no, mommy's with the maggots now. Maggates. Man. Brian's all in on this one. Look at them.

I am. Pretty rough. So, yeah. This is probably my most anticipated too, man. I'm excited about this one. I'm big, big, Evil Dead fan. So I'll take it. And I can totally.

because originally this was supposed to be an HBO Max movie, and then when they went into post-production and they seen the movie, they were like, no, we're putting this in theaters. I can see why. That's what happened to smile. That's what happened to smile. That was going to be streaming originally, so.

It's a good time. Promising. Well, Jason, don't say today on Twitter that movies are back, so because I guess Megan had a lot of money. So he's happy about that. Good. Yeah, they were sold out. A few showings that I was looking at.

Yeah. We were sold out too last night. I know this is like an old man here talking, but we got to get a handle on these run times, man. Because give me an hour, 30, an hour 40, and I'm good. But none of this two and a half hour of shit. All right. Big event movie. Good point.

Evil Dead Rise in theaters April 21st. All right. got to re-up my head. They should have adjusted it to four, found a way to adjust it to $420, but, you know. I guess, yeah, technically if it says 421, you can go the night of $420, right? Yeah, isn't that how it works?

Okay. Technically, you can go any night when you're smoking, but. All right. And the trailer I didn't think we were going to get this week. We got it was Renfield. starring Nicholas Page and Nicholas Holtz. A quick synopsis, very quick from IMDB, Dracula's henchman, and

inmate at the lunatic asylum. That makes no sense, because that's not even what the trailer was. That is not even what the trailer was at home. Yeah, no. Maybe they changed some of this up. Is this an Amnizum a Lingdong movie with a twist or what?

It sounds like it, doesn't it? Yeah, the twist is we get nothing we've seen in the trailer. Yeah. You walk in like an AA meeting or something. It's all the dream and he's just an inmate at the asylum. They already gave it away. Oh, no. People of note that start in this,

besides the two main actors, Aquafina, Ben Schwartz. That might be a... That might be a reason to stay home for me, whether it's aqua phenyl. Uh-oh. I don't mind her. A couple of people known in the horror community, William Ragsdale and Caroline Williams, also star in the movie.

Uh-huh. And this is directed by Chris McKay. Now I was told, no, no, I was told like I got inside. I read that this was supposed to be a comedian. take on the whole Renfield Dracula relationship and I think for my part I think they

kind of nailed it in the trailer I didn't know it was going to be more action heavy which I'm fine with two you know it's just a different take on the characters and I'm all with it and it's Nick Cage and he has not

let me down in the past few years so I'm all in on this one And I'm very happy that he dug himself out of the VOD world that he was in. You know, VOD, how that a lot of these guys end up in. So he did it, you know, little by little. He took his way out of there. And now he's back to getting some theatricals again.

Good for him, man. Indeed. Indeed. I don't know from the, I don't know how much he's going to be in this movie, though, because from the trailer, I get a vibe that, you know, it's going to be, what's the other? Nicholas Holt is going to be mostly his perspective. Yes. Yes.

And then maybe Nick Hitch comes out. the, you know, maybe late second act, third act even, because that trailer revealed a lot. Like, like, when he's up there floating in the sky and shit in the air, I'm like, that's some third act shit right there, you know? But yeah, it was very action-heavy,

which was interesting. And from another thing I also read the trailer, they said the trailer didn't really let us know, but the movie will be a little gory and violent as far as they can push it for the rating. Okay. Hmm. Is it rated R or PG-13?

I don't know, but I'm going to say PG-13. Probably. Okay. Too bad. Yeah. I mean, it could be rated R. Don't, don't. I'll be there.

There's no doubt. I'll be there to see it. You had me at Nick Kays. It says rated R. It says rated R on IMDB. That's what it says on IMDB. And that one should rate at R as far as the kid? Yeah.

What was that? So it seems like we're going to get Scream, Evil Dead, and this one, like, back to back to back. You know? Yeah, this one actually comes out April 14th the week before Evil Dead Rise. There it is. All right. Awesome. Cool.

We'll have a lot to watch. We'll have a lot to watch, guys. Well, and Nicholson is good, too. I'm looking forward to him. But, yeah, dude, he was fucking, he was great in the menu. Yeah. Yeah. He was in that one that I was telling you about last week with Charlize the Role.

Oh, the dark... Yeah, that was dark places or something like that. Yes, dark places, okay. I don't think... I don't think it's been a while since we were all in on every trailer. Yeah, these were all great. I think we all are. And they're all theatricals, too.

Usually we get some VOD ones in there. Yeah. Well, we'll have plenty of those... We'll have plenty of those, too, Pedro. Don't worry. Yeah. All right. We'll roll into listener feedback.

This week, the podcast spotlight shines on Never Split Up. Horror movie podcast hosted by two lifelong friends, Nolan and Anthony. We focus our horror movies, but dive into all things related to the genre. Come out and join our growing community on Twitter at Never Split Up Pod. And Al Ram Soar says, The ending to the Al-Patriot-Patryon picks actually was perfect. I'm the head cook of the merchant ship I'm on. We're transporting jet fuel around military bases in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf.

Oh, that's awesome. Have you ever seen those big Ark or Wilhelmson ships in downtown Galveston by the cruise ship terminal? Yeah, I'm sure I have. They unload cars and heavy machinery, and I work on those also. Thanks again, brothers. I can't see it here Now you know Now you know

Now you know Brian Yeah I'm just Just making sure You know he wasn't Didn't have a job We weren't supposed to be talking about Oh I got you Brian added a poll to the Facebook group

What 2023 movie releases Are you looking forward to And so far Cocaine Bear And Evil Dead Rise are pitched in a battle for the lead. But the poll just went up, so be sure to go get your votes in. That's a good question, because I'm pretty excited about cocaine bear, too.

Yeah, that's another one I'm interested in. Yeah. I mean, that's going to be good. The only hesitation I have is Elizabeth Banks, but whatever. I'll watch it. Maybe she'll redeem herself after that last Charlie's Angels bullshit. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I can't really say anything about that. I've never seen a movie because I didn't want to. Or another. What about the pitch-perfect movies? I've never seen them. I don't mind those. My wife is a big fan. Tim Davis says definitely cocaine bear.

That shit looks hella good, as Nez always says. Zim Vader said he saw X. It's the only thing in 2023 that I'm looking forward to. more than my stubby holder. Did he get one? I'm sure he has at this point. Also, Mark Reed added Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey.

And Matt Wood added Hell House LLC origins. That Winnie the Poohen looks pretty badass. Yeah. Excited about that. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen in my theater. We're going to get it for like one night next month. So I'm going to try to go see it. Which one?

Oh, the Winnie the Pooh. Yeah. And Hell House LLT Origins. That looks pretty good. Yeah. The only thing about that is that I feel like they've always tried to recreate the magic of the first one. The first one, the first house is fucking awesome. Whenever I try to point people in the direction of like found footage shit, I always pick that one.

There's a couple of them, but that one in particular. Then the sequels are not as good and they keep on getting less good as they keep on doing them. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. All right. And regarding kids versus aliens, Dax Daly said, Can't wait to see this film. And Brian Salmon says, I have this in for review.

Haven't watched it yet, but I think I will tonight. It looks fun. Yeah. It's a stranger thing-esque kids cussing and fucking up aliens. Aliens trying to, from the trailer, it looks like aliens are trying to abduct us for our skin because they want to take our skin for fuel. Oh, God. Sounds like a documentary for Philip.

It looks awesome. And I believe it's coming to shutter. Here soon. I've got February 15th, Brian. I've got it playing nearby, too. I'm ordering my ticket right now. Yeah, blood and honey. Yeah.

That guy has some interesting plans for movies after that. I guess his next one is Peter Pan. Oh. And then he wants to do Bambi after that one. This sounds awesome. I'm totally all in on this.

What kind of what he finds through the rights of all this shit? I think they became, recently became public domain. Yeah. Right. Those Disney Lord come after them. Regarding

a future kick on the Hail Ming Network, Ricky Morgan says, get a leg up on this one, see what I did there. Future kid. Leg up. Jesus Christ, man. Regarding Evil Dead Rise trailer, Marcus Will Turner says

one of the greatest horror institutions of all time. Returns for another ultra-bloody round of madness. Mayhem and light reading and chainsaws. Groovy. Oh, he was talking about the trailer. I thought he was talking about us. Hardest thing.

to make sometimes. CJ Dukote, fuck your name up every time probably, posted a trailer for Baby Blues. I thought the group would like this. Baby Blues. I don't think I've seen that one.

Is that like, it's alive or what? Is that an A-24 movie? Yeah, it looks like it was a killer baby, I think. The Baby. We got to look at that one. You guys ever see The Baby? Yeah, I watched it.

I thought it was pretty good. not the TV show so the old movie that's terrible yeah it's horrible it's horrible I have not watched that Andrew have you seen that one

no I haven't it's fucking weird it's a guy that she he stumbles into some lady's house right she like dresses him in diapers and shit like that yeah it's a lady she's like a social worker she comes to do a

a visit on a house and then she comes to find the baby's not really a baby. He's a grown man, but they've treated him like a baby, so he has the mannerisms of a baby. That's weird. There's some fucking weird incest stuff going on.

Right, right. It's weird. Hey, Drew, you should probably check it out. I am going to check it out. Like that one weird redneck X-Files episode. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Regarding the deep

Zim Vader said for a half a second I thought that movie was called Nick Cutter I think I'd rather see that movie Okay What's the deep Is that the Meg Part 2 or something? It's a novel

I think it's an underwater horror story I think I think it got some praise from Stephen King and the rights got snatched up to be a movie. Okay. Yeah, but Stephen King praises every other book and movie that's out there. So I don't know.

Literally everything. He's helping people eat out here, Lance. Right, which is cool. He's the opposite. He talks shit about his own shit, though, that gets adapted. Does he? That's the old guy. That's good.

He didn't like the Mr. Harrigan's phone movie, did he? I don't think anybody did. they should have hired him to be the Donald Sutherland character that would have been great that would have been great Mr. King's phone remember remember when he got that quick payday being that fucking psychotic biker and sons of anarchy and then we never saw him again yes he was he was the cleaner

yeah yeah like that was such a great role for him and then we just saw him one episode never came back right he should have had a recurring role like what's his name from the Warriors when he showed up in John Wick and he was the cleaner Oh God

Is that the guy that was from the Warriors James Remar? No, the one guy that's like Warriors come out to play Yeah Oh geez Sully from Commando Yeah, T-Burt from the Curl

Yeah, we know who you're talking about Yeah, we just don't know his name Oh, is it David Patrick Kelly? Yeah, that should have been Stephen King in Sons of Anarchy. He should have just whenever they had a body to dispose, he should have just showed up. Instead of getting paid, he just kept taking like random items from the house. That would have been funny. And regarding the Saw X casting rumors, Zim Vader says,

Costas Mandilor needs to be added next. he uh... Hoffman was the best character in the whole series there's another one I did yeah I don't know where they're going with this one Tobin Bell's returning Shawnee Smith's returning I think it takes place like in between somewhere oh man

gotcha does the timeline really matter in a song movie they're juicy well they're black they're black widowing this one right they're releasing it but it It's like four, it should have been four, maybe just four. Yeah. Like right after Civil War.

Yeah, I think it's one of those stories. It takes place between two and three or one and two or something. Regarding the price we pay, Cameron Sullivan says, Deacon Frost lives. I understood that reference. Regarding Christmas evil and Christmas Bloody Christmas, Cameron Sullivan said, double feature time. All right. Yeah.

Regarding our violent night. Wait, real quick, Phil. Pedro, what did you think of Christmas, Bloody Christmas? I loved it. I know Lance hated it. Oh, come on. I fucking loved it.

I was hoping you were going to go. No, no, no. Now I forgot. You know what I did? I admit I forgot about it. I should have thrown it in my top ten. Because that was a great fucking movie. Fuck you, man.

At least in Megan, they tried to make it look like a android. This guy was just like a guy in a fucking costume good. Is that what bothered you, man? Come on. So the Terminator was Well, the Terminator wasn't doing the robot. That's what bothered me.

You should have. That in the dialogue. So when you watch Terminator, when Arnold shows up, do you get angry because he doesn't look like a robot? No, because it's well written. It has good dialogue. So it makes a difference. Vegas, I can't. I can't.

I get angry every time we have to see his shlong, though, in the beginning of Terminator. That's what really gets me, I agree, for a lot of reasons. Regarding our Violent Night episode, Zim Vader says they're all good, but this show felt extra fantastic. All right. Zim to Lance. Zim says, interesting review of Andor from you really makes me think. Here we go. Here we go.

I was bored shitless for the first few episodes and actually aborted watching it, but a friend of mine thought it was the best thing he ever. So on his persistence, I resumed watching. Once we got to the jail factory thing, I started to get invested. And by the end, I was like, this is fucking great. I get it now. Then I watched Rogue One, which I was previously 50-50 on, and had a great time with that. And now, Monti and Orr.

Anyway, after Roe, after Rogue. one, I started rewatching Andor with the expectation that this time around, I'll love it, since I now understand who everyone is and what all the point of it was. And fucking nope, the first couple episodes are just this shit the second time's around. Oh, no. I don't know what my point was. I've forgotten. I just think I needed a rant.

All the best for 2023. It's called plotting and pacing. Come on, man. They have 12 episodes. Don't take the time with this shit. I think I think. Some kind of hook, though. I guess the Hours

the hook on its own. So Diego Luna committed for two seasons and I think that's the story they're going to tell. So it was supposed to be five years before Rogue One which is season one and then season two is going to be

it's going to jump supposedly. It's going to go up into the point so I think season two we're going to have a lot of cameos from the people from Rogue One that's where it's going to start to merge with the movie.

So it should be a little more action-packed I think. I hope so anyway. Camilleos for more people than just the last king of Scotland. They'll have more. Yeah, yeah. Hulvento Guerrera or whatever the fuck his name is. Right.

Oh, the juice. Regarding the Evil Dead Rise poster, Matt Wood says, oh, dear. That's not a good poster. That is not a good poster. Not a great poster. Also the poster for Smile too. That's what it looked at it. Regarding our best and worst show, Dean Ferguson says my favorite films all sucked this year.

Jeepers Creepers Reborn, Halloween ends, the monsters. Where's the good one? Maybe we'll get a good nude Friday the 13th. Let's hope so. Is this guy in the multiverse where everything's fucking reverse or what? The mirror The Comper got a hold of them already I think he meant favorite

Favorite Favorite Franchises I think that might be what he meant That makes sense now They took his favorite franchises And all the movies sucked

Yeah Shit all over him Well we got We got a predator one that didn't suck That's true That's true And we got a Haler One that supposedly

Didn't suck Although I think it's It's not all losses here. All right. And John Prince says, spoiler alert. I thought Jeepers Creepers Reward was decent, but not real happy with it referencing the original and sequels as seemingly only movies that exist within the new movie.

Going as far as making it look like the fortune teller woman was a real-world, Giselle, a character in the original Jeepers Creepers. Less good-natured, but one and the same. I suppose it wasn't totally a hard line. I suppose it wasn't totally a hard line on that subject, but it did appear to go a bit meta for my taste and separating it from the others. The new-ish creeper design was mostly handled well, but it did set itself apart from the Jonathan Black Creeper, which I prefer.

For me, it mostly made up for any shortcomings with some pretty cool sequences. is inspired by the first three movies. John Prince, respectfully, I have no idea what you're fucking talking about. Respectfully, sir. I don't know you, but that movie is God awful. Unwatchable.

The only thing I think I have redeeming to say about it is, what's his name, the real creeper, the previous director. Yeah, he, He had nothing to do. He had nothing to do with it. That's the only positive thing. That's the only positive thing.

That's right. Put that powder, by the way, which is a good movie. Oh, boy. Oh, you didn't like powder? Come on, Lance. You didn't like powder? What do you like this? I don't remember it.

I don't remember it. Didn't he have, like, sparks that would come out of his finger or something like that? It's a sad movie. That's all I remember. Did Michael Jackson show up in that would, with Macaulay. He couldn't afford him. Okay.

There's a pet ball game. I always heard that powder was Michael Jackson's dream role. He was aspiring to that. He's been a whole career. And this is the part of the show where we're breaking it. Epstein makes a cameo. We have Epstein. We have Epstein.

We have Michael Jackson. We have Victor Salva. He's been his whole career preparing to play powder. This is the expendable of fucking pedophiles over here we got. Pedro, this is where the show

spirals out of control now. I've been here many times. I've seen it many times. G. Below Brown says, Bite Size Halloween. It was a very interesting show. Bite Size Halloween.

Have you guys heard of that one? Yeah, they put it out during a Hulu. I think it's a collection of short story, short films for Halloween. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's kind of like anthology. You know, some are good, some are not so good. It's a lazy way to make an anthology. You're okay, you're okay, Lance? I'm good, man. It's like when you go trick-or-treating, right? Sometimes you get wax lips and sometimes you get the good stuff. Wax lips, man, I remember those. I doubt it.

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It's time for our featured attractions. This week, we cover 2007's Dead Silence. And tease our first review of the new year as we talk about the brand new Megan Mithreel So we'll start with dead silence from 2007.

A young widower returns to his hometown to search for answers to his wife's murder, which may be linked to the ghost of a deceased ventriloquist. Well, I hate it when that happens. director James Juan also known for saw and malignant and a bunch of other stuff uh James writers are James Juan with Lee Wynnell as usual

yeah Lee Wynnell was so unhappy with the finished product due to the studio interference that he decided to write all future scripts on spec as opposed to pitching an idea to the studio and then being paid to write the screenplay as was the case with this film yeah apparently this

was not the original film. I got it. I was wondering why it's not. I was hoping I wasn't the only one. Due to this film's box office failure, tentative plans for a sequel were abandoned. That's probably a good thing. All right.

Well, Pedro, you already broke your silence. I mean, Donnie Womper's in, which was kind of a saving grace. With the... What's the other plus? of his neo-Norward detective gimmick he was done. Yes, in many movies. But I don't know where to even, like, is there even a story here? It just seems like it's one long fucking, like, there's a scene here where Donnie Wahlberg and what's his name, Ryan Ketakwant, another Aussie, Ryan Wanton, whatever, Kiwanton.

They're looking for, for not so much the puppet, but the lady that's controlled. controlling the puppet, right? Because I guess he finds out where she's at. That scene where they're just going room to room looking, look, it's probably like a 10-minute scene where nothing happens. That's towards the tail end of the movie. I mean, what the fuck? And it just seems so uninspired. Like, you know, his wife dies in the beginning. We don't know why. You got to start somewhere. Or I guess this was made right after Saw, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. He did this one and that sentence with Kevin Bacon. That's how he was allowed to do this one, right?

Yeah, but, I mean, only they cut it all up. No, it's just a basic story that takes way too long to tell. I mean, is literally this guy, some force kills his wife. He goes looking for who it was. Donnie Walberg is sat on his trail because there's something shady about his wife's death. Right. And he finds, he goes back home, he goes back to his hometown for whatever reason because, oh, because the puppet had a note with him or some shit.

He had a note at the box, right? It said his hometown. And then he goes to the hometown. He meets his creepy dad, I guess. And then somehow the dad tells him where it's at, the Donnie Warbrook catches up to him. They don't even say how Donnie Walberg finds him. He just finds him. He follows him.

He's like a city cop. He follows him all the way up. Yeah. He follows him. He's got a shave, like, every five minutes. I think he came out of the set of Walberger on the way. I think Donnie Walper came out of the set of Saw 2, because he's wearing the exact same clothes. Yeah, I think so.

So Donnie finds them. They go to this fucking abandoned whatever the fuck, and then the benevolent entity attacks Donnie. He gets one special effect shit where his mouth is over his head somehow, and then he's dead. And then that's it. And then Ryan Ketanin fucking kills the benevolent creature, or not benevolent, the fucking malevolent, I should say. Right, right, right. And then that movie's over.

That's it. That's the movie. That's it. Yeah. Well, we forgot about the dad that was the puppet the whole time. And then somehow, you didn't mention that. Oh, no, no, no. The creature wins at the end.

The world's greatest puppet. Because somehow the entire family ends up in this scrapbook of them being turned to puppets. Yeah. And that's the end of the movie. It makes no sense. This movie fucking sucked. I saw it one time in 2007, never thought about it again. And then I saw it again today.

Yeah, me too. And I have to scrounge the fucking deep layers of the internet to find this fucking movie. I'm going to tell you. Because it wasn't available anywhere. But I saw it and I was like, what the fuck this happened? Like there's nothing in this movie that happened. Oh, man. Ouch,

Ouch. Brian, what did you think? Okay. Now, you guys know, I try to be positive. Yeah. I didn't quite like the movie when I first seen it. Not as positive as that Jeepers' creepers guy right now,

but pretty positive. Oh, that guy is. I didn't like it when I saw it in 2007, and man, do I fucking hate it now? I try. When I found out that they took Lee Wunel script and just fucking chopped it up, rewritten it, I was like, okay, let me rewatch it.

Let me rewatch it and try to see where, you know, maybe I can scrounge where the good parts that he put in there. I can't find them because the story makes no sense. Oh, no. Pedro broke down the movie in five minutes. There's not much more to talk about, really. That was pretty much more than that. Yeah, that's spot on.

The part that trips me out is the demon or whatever, the lady, the Ventriloquist. She's been in the stepmom the whole time. When did that happen? And how? I mean, I thought it was kind of cool how she was using Bob Gunton, the father's character. She was using it as a puppet, how he was followed out in the back and she was working him like a puppet. I thought stuff like that was cool. The wife gets killed, you know,

five minutes into the movie, she gets her tongue ripped out. You know, I thought that kind of stuff was cool. But then it's just him running around from building to building room to room, looking for, I don't even know if he knows what he's looking for.

And then Donnie Wahlberg just shows up magically everywhere he goes. Yes. And there's no point of him being in this movie. He doesn't do anything He's got a big old shotgun that he points And he shoots at one time and misses Yeah he just pops up

Shaves Tells the guy he's keeping an eye on him And then walks out And then he shows up later on where he's at I'm just like how are you doing this Movie magic I really can't say Anything good about this movie

This is probably the The worst thing I've seen James Gunn, do that he's done. Yeah. And it's hard for me to say that just knowing how much studio interference was in there.

And I, I wonder because this is getting the this is getting the Blu-ray, the Screen Factory Blu-ray release here in a couple months. I wonder did they chop up the script or was there a better movie film

that they chopped up the movie? I wonder if there's just stuff that missing because like that that whole storyline with the stepmom it just feels like there's chunks of the story missing. One of the things that came out of left field. Yes, it was.

One of the things that really pissed me off was the whole motivating factor behind this. There was a little fucking snot-nosed punk in the audience that tells this lady, I could see your leaf moving and that drives everything. That drives the entire fucking curse to curse this entire family.

That's all he said. He was cat calling the ventriloquist. Where the hell was his parents? And he had no parents around them. It was just, it was like a bunch of adults. You know, hopefully Victor Saba wasn't around there. It was this fucking kid that said, I can see your lips move.

And that fucking pissed off this lady. Oh, boy. And that was, to be honest. Which to be honest, when they did close-ups of hers, her lips were kind of moving. Oh, you caught that on second viewing, Brian? How many times did you watch this movie? I watched it.

This is a clear shot of him after the kid says, your lips are moving, and her and whatever, slappy from goosebumps have a fucking argument. What it looked like? You can fucking see her mouth moving. What was another fucking horrible scene, just horrible acting,

was when Donnie finally catches up to him and then he's like, no, I got to take it to the station first. And then Ryan Katana's like, no, I got to go. I got to go now. And he pushes a cop. He pushes. And then Donnie Wobber is like, get over here now. You got to come here now.

And then fucking Ryan Kewansans to the car. And then fucking Donnie Wobber's like, oh, Chucks, I got to go after you now. Oh, come on. Don't make me chase you. Yeah. Oh, man. But that's so like fucking amateur I always. shit like what the fuck happened there

and then fucking he doesn't call for backup he doesn't do and then when they get to the fucking wherever the the demon or whatever is at we just forget about that entire plot they just become buddies all of a sudden okay let's go look at his jurisdiction

didn't he have his jurisdiction yeah to go to another city or town yeah that is true I don't think that works yeah like a little New England town or something.

Like a man in black. Yeah, but I don't know. That movie was just boring. Philip, you go ahead, man. I don't have anything to add. I've got I'm flabbergasted.

I was going to try to bring it up a notch by saying at least some of the puppet effects were creepy. Like when they had the, what did they have to have exactly 101 dolls or something like that? No, and then, no, we forgot that Donnie Walberg

goes to the grave side. And he just finds all these fucking empty caskets. And they show him, this is what's the part. They show him on his knees. Like, he's inspecting every one of these caskets, like one by one. And he flips the lid. He flips over a casket. Like, what do you do?

They're gone, bro. Oh, man. He's trying to be thorough with his investigation. Oh, boy. Yeah, you would think with the cast that they had, because I legitimately like Donnie Walker. and some stuff. Yeah.

Bob Gunton's usually, you know, pretty. I mean, he wasn't horrible in this, frankly, you know. He was underused. Even Ryan Wanted is pretty good. Whenever he gets some good shit to work with. Yeah, I like that kid. And with James Juan and Lee Wan, you would think it would be pretty awesome. Yeah, I know.

It's the disappointment factor. Definitely was not. Yeah, this is a disappointing movie. I got bored and started playing on my phone. It's the beginning. It's boring, dude. I guess that's his biggest crime. It's just fucking boring.

Yeah, that's an unforgivable crime with the old movies, Pedro. I finally zoned back in towards the end, and just the whole premise of the movie's kind of stupid. Yeah, yeah. This movie's dumb. That's the best description I can give to it. There you go. Mary Shaw's Living Through the Dolls. Shut up.

Their stupid fairytale thing didn't even rhyme. Yeah, it was a terrible. A terrible rhyme. I'm like a nurse at the time, man. Just change the name of the person. Right. It's a movie. All right.

Scores. Pedro? I'm going to go three on ten. You know what? The only reason I'm sticking to the three is because Donnie Wobbered in it, catching a paycheck. And also some of the shots were like early James Juan trying to figure out his shit that he would eventually get better at later on.

So for that, it gets a three on ten. The dead bodies were. Cool. That's true. Yeah. Brian? I like Donnie Wahlberg's the time-traveling

detective where he just pop up different places. I like Bob Gunton as a puppet. That was kind of fun. But just more and more I think about it. If she's living through the fucking puppets, how is she

controlling the stepmom? uh great question good question sequel he was praying you to get a sequel on this one so when she when she's in a puppet is the stepmom like regular and just never notices there's a

a bob gunton puppet sitting in a wheelchair is it a real person that she's possessing or is it I don't know I don't know we're asking they didn't really explain that you kind of look like a ghost or something I don't know I did like how

I did like the opening kill with the wife, his wife in the beginning. I thought that was cool. And we got that right away. And like I said, the other things I liked, I can't give it no higher than it, too. Ouch. Okay, here's another thing that upsets me. Oh, no. So the wife was pregnant.

So Ryan Wanton thought, but this is fucking stupid because we all think, we could all deduce it by seeing the opening scene. So there's a big thing at the end where he thinks I'm the last of my bloodline. But this bitch fucking whispers in his ear, she was pregnant. She was the last one. And then that's supposed to be this big fucking, oh. But no, motherfucker it wasn't because we figured it out. She was pregnant when she got killed. Well, I guess they should have pulled an eraser head and done like an embryo puppet or something.

You know, they should have just gone full eraser head with it. Gone to black and white, faded to black and white and everything, you know. this movie would have went to a three for me. Oh, man. Am I going to be the high man on the totem pole tonight? I'll give it a four on ten. They were trying. I think the puppets were creepy looking enough for me to give it,

and the kills were good enough for me to give it a four on ten. I'm going to be the high man on the totem pole, aren't I feeling good? What was the point of the puppets? There was no point. They sat there and turned their head. It was just eye candy, man. I just kind of like, I just kind of like the special effects. What special effects?

When they're... When their face... Special effects when the face came out, it was bullshit. Yeah, that was weird. That was pretty bad. All right, three. Three and a half.

Three and a half. There you go. That caused James won a lot of money from merchandising. This movie not fucking making any money. I'll tell you that right now. You know, on IMDB, this movie has a 6.1 out of 10. There's all the James Juan fans.

Yeah. I don't get it. Oh yeah, like you were saying they drink in the Kool-Aid, Pedro. Like anything he makes, they're saying it's awesome. Well, this one was not. I'm going to give it a three. Okay, I got it. Highman on the totem pole.

Is this how the year's going to go? I'm going to give the highest grades to every movie. All right. We're flipping it this year. Me and Phil are going to be low. Let's do it. Flip the script. Now when Black Phone comes out, Part 2.

I know. And it will. And it will. I'm curious about the next one, though. We'll see. Megan, Mithrigan. A brand new one. A robotics engineer at a toy company builds a life-like doll

that begins to take on a life of its own. Sounds like a familiar story. Director is Gerard Johnstone, also known for Housebound. That's a good movie. Yeah. So he's Australian or New Zealand, right? Pedro, correct me if I'm wrong, Brian. Was the Housebound a New Zealand film?

Yeah, yes, it is. Okay. Way, way better film than the boy. Yeah. Better film than the boy? Did he also do that? No, if you've seen the premise of the boy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. Oh, you're right. The twist. Way better. Yeah. house definitely um writers are akella cooper also known for hellfest um based on that was fun yeah based on a story by james wan there you go now she has since came out and said there there is an r-rated version of this movie i feel like oh i can't wait to see it i can't fucking wait to see it

that's gonna yeah hopefully that i think i think i think i read that yesterday she said there there there is an R-rated version of the film filmed. Yeah, it looked a little chopped up, and there was some, like, mouth. I don't think that's what they said there. You got to get that young crowd in there. Yeah. Right.

That Jason Blum doing cartwheel saying movies are back, so there you go. Between Avatar and this, right? So let me start off by saying, I'm conflicted. Look, I like this movie. lot. I thought it was a lot of fun. But never had, there was nobody, like, everybody, there was a bunch of fucking assholes in this movie. Like, every

single one of these fucking characters, you know, what was the name Gemma? Gemma was the lead, the lead character, right? Yeah. You mean the lead asshole? Yeah, she was the lead asshole. Like, and I get it. When you're writing this kind of movie, she, she was focused on her work, dude. Come on. Her sister died.

Well, yeah, but there's people who have those, I mean, Pedro, you would know, dude. There's people that have, like, disassociation, right? No, I get it. And that might be what she just went through, right? That's why she refocused on her job. Yeah, that's why I chatted my own thoughts.

And then when the little girl slapped the fuck out of her. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, so we're doing what we're always do, right? First half is non-spoiler, then we go into, okay. So we haven't really spoiled anything. Okay. No, I really had a great time with this movie.

It was fast. It got to the point. There was a lot of, of decisions that I'll question in our spoiler section that didn't make any sense from the, from a logical person's point of view. Like, everybody in this fucking movie was making all the bad decisions you could make

to allow this fucking shit to happen. I thought it was a fun movie. It's an hour and a half. I can't really get into... Get in, get out. No, I'm saying, I want to get into spoiler territory here, but all I'll say right now is that I really enjoyed it. I really,

you know, for all its faults, it made up for just by the, by how much energy it had. You could tell there was a lot of passion behind it. It had a lot of little Easter eggs for horror fans. The Asian guy was hamming it up and he had a, I had a smile on my face every time he was on screen. Very Jurassic Park style, right? Yeah, he's actually a stand-up comedian. Oh, that explains everything.

Okay. There you go. Yeah, the timing. I think he stole the movie personally. Yeah. And it was a good premise, you know, and also, you know, with the technological world that we live in now, I think this is a good franchise in the making right here. So that's where I'm at.

I really like this movie. All right. Brian? I have to agree with him. I took my daughter to see this. We watched it last night in the theater. We both had a lot of fun with it. she kind of felt like a lot of the

singing TikTok dance and stuff was kind of cringy her words her words I told her they threw that in here because that's right this generation is you know that kind of stuff and my theater responded well to it too so I mean

it worked in some places I guess it was it was pretty funny when she started singing like initially I liked everything I liked everything they did with Megan I thought it was real interesting to find out that a lot of the times it was an actual actress playing as Megan

and every now and then they used like an animatronic puppet I thought it was real use of good use of both I brought up the reason I brought up the R-rated version of the film because for the deaf scenes you could tell there was more to them. Yeah. Yeah, they kind of cut away a little bit. Which I totally understand

from a business standpoint. You've got to be able to have the younger crowd be able to kind of go see the movie without having to, you know, have your parents with you or whatever. Yeah, I'm going to take all my grandkids to the R-rated version when it comes out. Shit. I'm trying to raise them

the right way. I was going to say Lance, even if that's not what you were trying to do, I think this is a good kind of beginner horror film. Yeah, intro horror film. And it's relatable to them. I thought the little girl, I thought she did pretty good. Lance, her oldest sister, was in the black phone. Okay. So we'll bring the black phone back.

Full circle. Well, this little girl's been in something, too, before. I've seen the haunting of Hillhouse. series. Yeah, okay. Oh, okay. Okay. And she was in the beginning of Dr. Sleep, the little girl that Rebecca Ferguson's showing the flower too and then the true not, like, attack her. So she's been in a bunch of horror stuff. But yeah, I had fun with it. I think this is, we're going to see them pumping out Megan movies because it did really good at the

box office, especially opening night. So. Yeah, and it's a January movie. We could have a fun franchise on our hand. Well, to us, to a point. They're going to get fucking retic. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, and here's a fun ESPN stat.

This is one of the first Hollywood films in the last 45 years to be released on the first Friday in January, and obtain a fresh Rotten Tomatoes score. Although I don't think Rotten Tomatoes has been around for 45 years. I don't know. Yeah, but they usually dump. However, this is like dump months, so I could see why.

Yeah. Which is probably why they went with the PG-13 rating, and it was probably smart. And I'm checking the updated Rotten Tomato score. It's still sitting at 93%. Holy shit. How. Okay. Critics.

Okay. It is 93% on 165 reviews and 80% audience score. That's good. Usually, yeah, usually you see a discrepancy between audience and critics. There's a winner right here. Yeah, big sample sucks. And I'm looking up the current box office. I think the budget was $15 million.

It's worldwide has already grossed $45 million. Oh, okay. Wow. So we got Megan 2 coming up. Yeah. Yeah, I think they already said it was in development before the movie came out. In development. They knew what they had.

Mithrigan 2. I love it. Yeah, I think it was all based on that trailer. Yeah, right? I think as much as we laughed about the dancing and the doll dancing around, I think that really piqued the interest of the younger audience. and I think that's why they kind of fast-paced in the sequel because I think they know they got a cash cow on their hands.

Yeah, there was some young kids at this movie when I went. It's always a trip, man. You don't really ever know what's going to catch on. I know they have people that they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to research this shit. And it's like sometimes it could be the stupidest fucking shit that just catches on and, you know, makes that money for some of these movies or television shows or music. even and it's like yeah this was it just the trailer hit at the right time with the right scenes and people were hyped for it and they showed up so you know you could just you just you just never know

all right well that's what you think oh man so look man i don't i'm not trying to continue the the bagos smashing here yes you are but uh joe joe i'm looking at you you you can learn a couple of things from this movie joe number one when you have a character that's not supposed to be human, that's supposed to be mechanical? Why don't you do be a favor and go ahead and make it actually fucking look mechanical, even when it's a human playing the part? Okay, that's

lesson number one. But the big lesson and the big takeaway from this is all about the fucking dialogue. This movie had some phenomenal, very subversive humor in the dialogue. I don't know if the kiddies got all of it.

Let me jump in here. They're not some. This This kid is not, I don't want her talking like she's in a Rob Zombie film. Or the one. And the reason why... But are we totally ignoring the implications of a little girl robot here? Okay. Yeah.

I figured we get there eventually. But the reason why Megan was more human acting, because that was her programming. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this. There were scenes of this movie that I'd, I pretty much Dan literally fell out of my seat laughing. The humor was just so sublime and the way that it was just kind of folded into the script like that. And then you had the one character that was kind of like, let's just call him the Walberg Jr.

character, but he walked, he talked right into that part. And he said, oh, I didn't mean to laugh at that. It's just, I don't want to go too far into it. But it was just a really well-written movie. I enjoyed it. Pedro, you nailed it, dude. It was fast-paced. It was actually, I think it's more like an hour and 42 minutes. Yeah, yeah. A little longer than an hour and a half, but it went fast. There were obvious support. I think that was, sorry, Lance, not to cut you off. I think that was one of the problems my daughter had with it. She said it felt like it was short. Like it was too short? And that sounds like it good, though. You always want someone wanting more, right? That's a good thing. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's the, good. Yeah, that's the

takeaway. That's the takeaway. There was a couple of parts where you kind of had to, you know, go with it sort of like. Oh, there was like one stage. We'll get through in the spoilers section. Yeah, I know. But like at the beginning, I'll go non-spoilers. So the very, very first thing is how they're testing this one out. And then like it seems like a week later, she's got it totally fucking perfected the whole time. She had something she was working on that allowed her to do that. Like, well, if that was the case, why did the first one fail so miserably when you guys tested it? But I don't know, man. It was a good way to start the year.

It was a good movie to start the year with. Yeah, yeah. No, within the universe that I introduced, I could allow some of the quote-unquote flaws or plot holes. Sure, sure. Even for some of the missteps as far as the technology part, and everybody was grieving, right? That's the whole thing we have to remember,

is that especially Gemma, like, her head is not really quite there because she's got so many emotions. So I could forgive her for, like, just reacting constantly without really planning things out, right? She's just trying to cope. I don't know about the Asian guy. He's just greedy, but we'll get to that in the spoiler section. Like I said, Jurassic Park Vittling all the way.

Yep, yeah. And then some of the other, like, people in the tech group, they also kind of, I have some questions for that as well. But yeah. Oh, they're techies, man. Come on. They're nerds. I definitely forgive them for their flaws because, again, Again, the universe that they introduced allowed me to go with it.

Yeah, I really liked this a whole lot better than I thought I was going to. I expected it to kind of suck. That was the first thing I said when I walked out. Yeah. And I guess we'll talk about some of the really good scenes once we get to spoilers. But yeah, I kind of, the singing I could have done without the dancing was actually pretty freaking cool, I thought. I thought going where, because you only get to dancing in the trailer, what the dancing leads into. I thought it was hilarious.

Oh, man. Yeah. That's what I want to say, that art-rated version, Brian. Yeah, definitely. But let's do scores and we'll hit spoilers. Pedro, what do you think? I'm going to go with seven on ten. I got to watch it again to really.

Nice. For now, it's seven on ten. Good time of the more. Brian? I'm going to go a little bit higher, seven and a half. All right. Lance? Yeah, seven and a half.

I'm going seven and a half also. This could be a contender. It could be. We'll see. Maybe. I walked out of there thinking seven, but I think I'm going to go seven and a half too. I had a good time.

I'd totally watch this movie again. Cool. So we're all kind of on the same wavelength then. Yeah, that's good. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. The little fucking get the one shoot. I'm sorry. So, well, where do I start here? I mean, let's talk a little bit about some of our favorite scenes.

Yeah, again, the Asian guy was hilarious. and he, you know, he was like we're saying, he's kind of like the one that just thinking about the money, money, money, and he wants this robot to function. They never really think about, there's so many, like, practical things. They never really go over, right? Like, this is like a lawsuit way to happen,

even if everything went right, because this robot is supposed to just adapt to whomever it touches first, but it's also constantly getting fed, It's like Ultron. It's getting fed information through, like, the internet or whatnot. So it's kind of becoming, like, self-actualized. And we never have one lawyer scene in the entire movie.

We're like, like, the lawyers are like, wait a minute. It's just goes from one to the other. Yeah, they mention it. They said, we need to get her in touch with legal. That's right. Yeah, that's it. Big pay rates or something. Yeah, the main guy does that.

Like she was talking about that pet that she made and it had like a listening device that picked up on child's conversations. And he was like, oh, that toy was weird. You did you activate it by the butt or whatever? Right. That was kind of funny. And then another thing that I did, one thing that I didn't like about the movie, again, we talk about how these movies establish the rules. It seems like only when it benefited the story, Megan could manipulate technology. Like when she gets into the car and takes off, like she just knows how.

to drive the car. But then there's sure. But then later on when she's fighting the bigger robot, he's got a name, right? The prototype,

she can't control the name though. Yeah, Bobby or Benny or Billy or something. Billy. That's with a beat. She can't control that robot. Right?

And so I was like, because it seems like she's got access to all the servers and, you know, the whole fucking lazy way of writing where like this is a robot. and the robot could control any technology around it. But for whatever reason, at the end,

she can't do that with the robot that finally kills her or not kills her, but really beats her up. Maybe that one wasn't online. Maybe. Maybe you're right. But I think there's other scenes, though, where she does control things that are not necessarily online. But that was kind of like, I like how she killed like the nerd guy that's in the elevator.

Well, you know, she kind of just fucking... I know that the rated R scene, we're going to get a better view of that. Yeah. You could tell that was a cut right there. As far as, like, Gemma's motivation, again, the grieving part of it, but still, like, she was very selfish. Like, like, I know she wants to focus on her job, but just, I don't like the way it was spoon-fed that she's being a bad, like, surrogate mother. Like, that was very spoon-fed.

Like, I was like, we get it, you know. And so for a little while there, like, everybody was kind of like, they were all assholes. The entire characters and all, and the entire movie were, like, assholes. Even the team, you know, because you had, the guy was concerned, right? Let's, let's shut this robot off and let's take her to the lab and check her out. But the other lady was like, no, we got to, you know, we have a meeting and like, come on. This fucking robot did all this. And I also think like Megan's strength, like at times she was like super powerful at times she wasn't.

So they really couldn't get that either. Like her strength level was kind of up and down throughout the movie, depending on what they needed for that time. You know? What did you guys think of the neighbor with the dog? Oh. Yeah, I think that's Brian's neighbor that mows the lawn at 2 a.m. or something. Yeah, I can relate.

I would never do anything to anybody's dog, but I can relate on that situation. Yeah, I hated that they went the dog route, but the lady was awesome. She was funny. right uh the one scene that i thought was hilarious was uh the the boy the bully in in the woods sure sure you know that was going a different direction in a rated our scene in a rated our movie nobody is going to pick chestnuts come on what kind of activity is this but you knew where it was leading because uh when the the one jemmo was talking to the the boy's mom and she was like oh that's my son and he was like

like, oh, fuck you, Holly. Yeah. I was like, okay, I know, I know where this keeps on. They had a lot of really fun moments. He was, he was weird acting, though. I mean, not his character, but the way the actor acted. It was almost like he delivered his lines, kind of robotic. Oh, is he going to be a robot in the sequel?

I don't know. It was just weird, but I thought it was hilarious. He got his ear ripped off and. Yeah. Pull in the ear. for a while, man. It's just... I don't know if it could stretch like that.

It was just building up. It was just like he's throwing the doll down. You know, he's hurting the girls. He's punching Megan in the face, slapping her. Just doing stupid shit. And I'm like, okay. I thought he was going to do something different, Brian. Yeah.

Speaking of... Yeah, because he took the shoe off. And I'm like, are you about to undress this dog? of course he was and then he gets on top of the and then he gets on top of the doll and I'm just like this is feeling weird

and uncomfortable and I know there's a lot more to him getting run over I know there has to be more to that that scene right there that was cool when she like got down on all fours and was running through the forest and shit

yeah that was cool this robot did look creepy man. I like the way that she walked. I like the way that she moved. And like I said, the dance scene in the hallway, I thought was a really good lead up to a really great kill. It was like funny and kind of creepy at the same time. I like the reactions to the doll from other people because it was neither you get, you get the, yeah, you get the, you get first some characters you would get like, oh, what's the little girl's name? Because, you know, they don't, they're not really else in us. But then you got to others that are like seeing her. like, oh, what the fuck?

You know, what is that? The psychiatrist. Yeah, and I also like the fact that they kind of explained. They always had a nod. Like, she's a prototype. That's why she kind of looks weird. So it wasn't even like, how come nobody ever did anything?

Because Megan does have a lot of interactions with, like, peripheral characters throughout the movie, right? But it's never weird because it's just understood that she's like a prototype doll. And eventually she's going to be in a lot of households. So it's something for the people seeing her for the first time, which is okay.

It's not like this character's like running ramping throughout the fucking movie and nobody's just questioning it, you know? And going back on what you were saying, how Lance, how she, it seemed like a week later she had it working. If you remember, the reason why the other model exploded is because the one tech guy

forgot to put that part in. Okay. Ah, okay. All right, so that makes sense. So it could have possibly... They didn't account for that. Yeah, it could have possibly worked like the Megan we've seen then at first if he would have put that part in. That's how I took it.

That's awesome. I like that. Great explanation. So you explained away the only real problem I have with the movie. Well, and, you know, we've got that real AI chatbot thing that's out there now. You guys heard of that? Yep. The one that spews out hate mail or whatever, allegedly.

Does it? I don't know. I was reading the chatbide and Elon's brain ship. Yeah, we're headed

for real life Megan scenario. Yeah. We're either going to have I-Robot or the board on the other. Or Terminator.

I see a sequel happening because at the very end you see, I think she's maybe had transferred her consciousness or whatever

into the home Alexa kind of thing. Right. Right. And I'm going to say that that rich old guy from the company is going to kind of clean up everything and pursue the Megan project. Which is what happened in that is the storyline of Childsplay Part 2, by the way.

And it works. Yep. And it worked. They're going to scrape Megan off and they're going to redo her little head and off he goes. That's what this is. I-Robot meets Childsplay. Yeah. This is a lot better than the Cheki remake, that's for sure. That fucking Childs Play remake, where he was named Buddy or whatever.

But I know, Brian, did you like it? Yeah, I liked it for what it was. It could have been something else than Childs Play. But if it wasn't Childs Play, nobody would have watched it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Buddy had based on that. It was pretty good.

Yeah. He guys ready to wrap it up. We covered a lot tonight. We don't want Pedro. Wait about Pedro yelling at us that we're doing a three-hour movie here. No, no, no, no. I'm okay. No, the only thing, too, is that...

Too late. Did they ever explain how she was able to override the turn-off thing that she had? Because she just starts doing it. Like, a couple times... You know, she had this thing where you could turn it off just by giving her a command, and then she just kind of overrode it, and they never really told us how. I'm sure... Maybe they did.

and I missed it. But, you know, that's a big of shit. But it was, I mean, it was a great movie regardless, I thought. Yeah, I would have to watch it again. Now that I'm thinking about it, it just kind of seemed like she just somehow hacked into the system and was able to override it without anybody even. She was writing her own code. Which it was weird how she was like shutting off the video feed and all the all that kind of stuff. And nobody even noticed anything.

it seemed like the tech crew that's kind of like their job. And they didn't notice there was all these corrupted files or unknown files and you couldn't get into anything. And then we should kind of overpower both of them, you know, to kill both of them. Right. So that was kind of. But again, we forgive that because the story needed it at that time, I guess. Yeah. And it was kind of a startup company, you know, so it's not like they got billions of dollars.

Every time she, like, overpowered her or something. I just, I don't know. I just found myself sitting in my theater chair, like, don't punches. Like, you know. Punch the shit out of begging. But you're saying ones they're fuck. Because here's the thing. Let's be real, though.

If a dog gets a jump on all of us, they have, they're going to start on us. So we're trying to process this living fucking dog. And by the time we do, we're dead. So I could, I accept that. But there was time where they were going total to toe already with this fucking doll and she was still more powerful. So it's like, that's a little more like, come on now.

But yeah, I could... Yeah, because... Because there's a scene, I think, in the final act where she... Gemma and Megan are fighting. I think there's one scene where she's choking her. Yeah. Yeah.

But then later there's a scene where she kind of knocks her across the room. So if you have the power to knock someone across the room, when you first were choking her, you should have snapped. next instantly. But it's a movie. Yeah.

That's cool. Well, yeah, I think we all enjoyed it. We were kind of on the same wavelength on this one. Yeah. Pedro. Thanks for coming by, dude.

Thank you guys for having me. It's always a pleasure. And I guess I'm going to look forward to the the old March Madness Sweet 16 tournament that we always do. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we still, Brian,

we still planning to do best like A-24 film or something like that? No, is that, is that serious? I think so. I thought we were. I don't know. I think they have to be,

they have to be horror film, so they can't be just. Elevated horror. We don't want, we don't want Lola or whatever that movie was called. All right. Best elevated horror, right? Yeah.

Yes. Okay. Shit, marks is right around the corner. Going highbrow. Man. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You can always find us at thehorrorreturns.com, pretty simple.

Or email us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Shit, next week, Brian, do you know what the two movies are? I know that Steve is Steve Carlton is going to be joining us. And they were two mystery movies, but I think he finally... finally made his decision it and I it will be digging up the marrow and

Leslie behind the mask the Leslie Vernon movie I always wanted to see that one I think I've seen either seen I don't think I've seen any one of these yeah let's be really good I love it's really funny and it's a take on serial killers it's a little movie

cool yeah and we're getting Steve to come on a show that has nothing to do with screen Yeah. What do you know? All right. Well, I guess that means Brian until the horror returns again. Good night.