The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #348: Alone (2020) & Missing (2023)

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

This week, we check out the brand new Missing as well as Alone. Cool of the Week includes The Last of Us, Gangs of London, and Severance. Trailers are Baby Ruby and Scream 6. The podcast spotlight shines on Two Dollar Late Fee. Shout out to our new listeners: Christina Taft and Misty Zavar! And we get feedback from Ryan Stevens, Cenobabes, Horror's Edge, Eric Bylenok, Marcus Wilturner, Bede Jermyn, CJ DuCote, Mike Batchelor, Gabriel Theis, Samantha Bean, Michael Greene, and COCAINE BEAR! Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

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All right, welcome back to one and all to the horror. I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian and Philip. Nez might jump in. You know how that works. Although Philip, God damn it, dude, I had an excellent idea for a soundboard. You say you keep wanting to do a soundboard? Yeah. Why don't we do a Nez soundboard? That's not a bad idea.

It's awesome. It's fucking awesome. Okay, that would be one, right? Hell of good. That was a horrible first one. How about trash? Trash, trash, right? If it's Nez, Nish number, has to have the hell of good on there.

Yeah. I don't know, man. Let's get to work on that so that when Nez isn't with us, he's still with us. How does it sound? I like it. But how are you guys doing, ma'am? Warming up in Alaska.

We've got to start with our old man weather talk. No, still, it's reasonable. It's not, it's cold, but it's not like, if I do, like, go do something outside, it's not unbearable, but I ain't going outside anyways. Not happening, huh? Well, we got to, we got to ask the man here, how he's feeling after yesterday. Oh, yeah, the day after.

Oh, that, Cowboys? Is your TV's okay? Yeah. Because I've seen many people punching, throwing out the TVs. I've seen one guy take his TV to the driveway and run over it. Yeah.

I don't know why anybody was really super surprised. Everybody keeps saying this is the year, but, you know, Cowboys fans, we say that every year. Of course. That's real fans. I'm used to it, man. They, they...

That's what they do. Stephen Loeblad was in true form on Instagram. He posted something about the Dak Press got was frustrated after the game and threw his helmet and his helmet was intercepted. I heard the joke. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, listen, man, defense was on it, but offense didn't hold up.

But they do this shit every year. They give you just enough hope to get excited and then snatch it away. The Cowboys are going to be the death. But, hey, definitely happens. Well, good season. least we got a playoff win hopefully we'll figure it out next year probably not going to happen with dack though i got to say as much as i like the guy i got like dack jerseys man and i was always a big jack supporter but uh i don't think you can do it yeah i've seen uh what's his name through his

and the garbage uh skip bayliss oh yeah yeah well that doesn't surprise me he's he's done that before too Hey, you guys did a whole lot better than my Rockets. They're like worst in the conference. Right, right. Well, and at least we got the Astros who were kicking ass in baseball. I mean, different city, but still. Yeah, true. Yeah, the Rockets' Glory Day seemed to be way behind him, Brian.

Yeah, there was rumors James Hardin wanted to come back, but the level of play he's at right now, I don't even know if that would be beneficial to us. Yeah, I think that was going to be the best shot there was when we had Hardin and, you know, all the other guys. And then now that they're gone, it should have an happening. Not until soon. But yeah, that's definitely not so cool of the week. There's always next year.

Yeah, there's always next year. I'll turn it around and go cool the week. I think was Have you guys seen the last of us yet? Yes. No, everybody in the world except me has. I guess I need to get on that. I don't know if I'm totally hooked yet.

Like it's not, I don't think it was as good as, you know, the hype has been so far, but it's definitely not bad. And I've only seen the first episode. I haven't seen the second one yet. Have you ever played the games? No, I haven't played the game.

Because it's just PlayStation, right? Nor have I. Yeah, so that was a PlayStation exclusive, and we don't have a PlayStation, but it should be coming out on PC pretty soon, and I may get it if the show goes awesome, which I assume it will. Yeah, because from what I understand, they're just following the games, and there's no, there's no nothing after that. So whatever the games was is going to be translated to the show.

they're not going to Game of Thrones it. Yeah. There was a couple of scenes in that first episode where he was like ducking behind cars and shit

and I was like that looks very big. Like a video game. Yeah. Right? Yeah, I thought Pedro did a good job. Yeah.

I really enjoyed all the stuff with the daughter because that that was kind of a misdirect for me. Yeah. Without spoiling anything. Which also leads me to my other cool of the week.

what are you doing god now I am which leads me to my other cool of the week uh spider man on uh p c spider man yeah oh the game okay yeah so the first or the second one exclusive for a while too

and uh and i guess it came out on pc my my kid got it because uh my brother-in-law was playing it and uh i started playing it dude i can't put it down it's like assassin's creed but with Spider-Man. It's awesome. Yeah. That's what I heard.

I heard the second one's just as good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm looking forward to that. I'm definitely stuck in those Spider-Man games now. You're in the Spider-Verse. I am. And that's all I got. Brian, you got something?

Yeah. Since Philip did The Last of Us, I'm catching up on gangs of London and that is a fantastic show. Gangs of London? Yeah, it's AMC Plus exclusive. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you don't have AMC Plus, you can find it.

Yeah, but you need to get AMC Plus, right? Just for sure if nothing else. Yeah, that's a good deal. And there's a lot of AMC Plus gets a lot of stuff so it's pretty cool and yeah i started a gangs of line one of the many shows that i started that i just never finished and i'm getting caught up on it and it's a crime action drama kind of show involving like uh what's the i can't think of the actor's name lance he was on next generation uh the scottish guy with the curled oh cole comini yeah he

He plays the head of the family and he gets murdered. That makes sense. That's good casting. That's good casting. The son has to step up to run the family. Okay. And you got all this internal family stuff. And then you got other gangs, you know, kind of coming for the spot because they kind of see the son is weak because he doesn't do things like the father.

Ah, they see an in, perhaps. Yeah. Gotcha. There's great action in it because the, the, showrunner is Gareth Evans who did the raid movies. So you get that kind of action and camera work in that. Yeah. Very violent, very.

Because it's like, it's not just someone that just gets shot to the head once. It's, you know, someone taking a machine gun and just like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. You know. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think that was like the first AMC plus exclusive show. I think you're right. If I'm not mistaken, like when they roll. out AMC Plus, I was kind of like, ah, you know, fuck this, I've got cable,

I'll keep watching all the Walking Dead bullshit on cable. Yeah. But then I think that show kind of separated it a little bit. I highly recommend gangs of London. It's two seasons out. Yeah.

Okay. And the mother of the family is played by spacing on her name too, but she was Ned Stark's wife in Game of Thrones. Ah, okay. All right. And she lasted a little longer than he did.

Yeah, she is ruthless on the show. She's very, she's just not the wife or the mother of the family. She knows how to take care of herself. And if she had to, I would definitely say if she had to take over the family, she definitely can run things with an iron fist. Oh, cool. That's a pretty cool element to the show. it sounds like.

And not so cool of the week. I'm not going to really speak on it because you can go to the Skaternaz podcast network and listen to ESP at the movies for a Skinnamarink. Okay. Was it that bad, Brian? Come on. I'm not going to spoil anything. I'm not going to spoil anything.

It's on a list. Okay. Well, we'll definitely stay tuned to, you say, on ESP at the movies then? Yeah. An episode just came out a couple days ago. A quick review. I think it's only about a half an hour review.

We didn't have a whole lot to say about it. And Lance, if you want to check it out and you don't want to go to the theater, I think it's coming to Shutter the first of, I think the first of February. Ah, well, I can assure you, Ryan, and I've looked on. on my, one of the apps on my TV. And as Nes would say, that's another pick for the Nes soundboard. It's out there. Oh, it's, it's been out there.

Right. All I'm going to say is, I should have listened to Steve. Uh-huh. When he spoke on it, when he was on. But I had to, I had to see what the hype was all about. Yes, you did, didn't you? And so was it just like a movie about nothing? Again, we'll listen to it.

ESP and get your full review. It was a movie where the director made a lot of, I'll just say, artistic choices that maybe to me was boring. We talked about it on the show. Maybe to me it was boring, but maybe meant something. I would actually like to talk to. I think his name was Kyle Edward Ball. He directed it.

I would actually like to talk to him and see. you know, why did you make these decisions? And, you know, there were certain storylines that were playing out that were very confusing. Okay. And I'm sure somebody probably has made a podcast or a YouTube video kind of breaking it down and getting more deep into it. It just, there were parts that were just completely boring. And then the other parts that just kind of went over my head. I wonder if it's one of those things where you'd like to sit down with him and just,

Grambling by the shoulders and shake him and say, what the fuck were you thinking? I mean, I salute him because the movie costs 15,000. He made a movie and we didn't, right? Yeah, it costs $15,000 to make and it's already grossed over a million dollars at the box office, which for a movie that got accidentally uploaded to the internet like last year. Right. And people are still going to the theater to see it.

Uh-huh. Hey, you know, get your money. My hat's off to him, right? Skinnery. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. So that's the not so cool of the week. Yeah, it just... All right, well...

You're the second person that said, I don't know about it. You're about the fifth person I've heard to say that. But... Yeah. I'm going to waste my time with it then. Is that it? Anything else? My wife thought she was seeing an alien. on the road so I had to go outside and look.

Oh, wow. It's right up your alley, Philip. You're prepared for that. I think it was just... She went to the right person. That's true. I was like, oh, I know. Let me go look. I don't think I...

I'm re-watching Orange's New Black because I never finished that show. I never finished it, and I don't remember anything before where I left off, so I just kind of of restarted it. Great show. Yeah, it's got a big fan base. But gangs of London is definitely the

Gangs of London and The Last of Us, I really enjoyed that first episode. Good deal. All right, well, I might check the last of us out after we finished recording tonight. Yeah, the first episode is like, I think. I think that first episode is like two hours. It's like almost a movie link then. Yeah, I think they said,

They put two episodes together for the first episode. But if most of it was just sort of set up, there wasn't like, you're still kind of going, all right, what's going on the whole episode? They give you what's going on, and then there's a time jump to present day or present-ish. Yeah, I heard a couple of different people say it was like right out of the video game, like frame for frame. and I think that's when I probably enjoyed it because I had no expectations because I never played the game. Tell me, have you seen any of the Apple TV show Severance?

No, with Adam Scott. Yeah, Adam Scott, and there's a number of other people in it that Christopher Walken is in it, among other folks that you've seen in other things before, but it took me about four episodes to really kind of get into it because it was so surreal that it was just sort of like mind bending and I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? But then once I, and it's got, it's sort of got that lost look to it.

You guys remember how with loss when they had like the bunkers and it was sort of like a retro look like 1960 style bunkers that they would go and hide in and have all those gauges and switches and stuff like that? Never watched an episode. No kidding. No. Seriously? You've never watched Lost.

No. Holy shit, Brian? You're the one. The chosen one. I think that was a time when I wasn't, I was mostly movies, not TV shows. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.

And then when I started hearing about it, it was like season, whatever the fuck. And I was just like, I don't know. Oh, yeah. It's just. Watch the first season. It's one of the greatest things that's ever come on TV. Okay. I mean, you kind of made me want to watch Supernatural.

Oh, God. That's badass, man. I had a lot of fun with that. Now, that's a big, that's a big concept right there, Supernatural. What is that, like 300 episodes or something? Yeah, that one's, that was long. I powered that sucker, though, man. It was all I did for like two weeks.

That'll be my movie home, or, you know, TV show homework. I'll check out the first episode of Lost. There you go. There you go, man. I think it'll hook you. It's, I guess my point is that a lot of that you get into and lost, especially in the later seasons, when the others show up and you start learning about this strange corporation that did they maybe put them on this island on purpose or was it just an accident or whatever. But a lot of the visuals are pretty similar to severance. So it's kind of like a real weird, retro-looking office.

It's almost like they're in a maze where you walk into the entrance to the office. And the minute they get in the elevator, their brain switches off, right? Because they've got a way to kind of divest their brains so that when they're not at work, they're living their not at work life. And when they're at work, they're living their at work life. And the two lives don't know anything about each other. so it kind of you know it severs them or splits them into two different two completely different egos two different personalities so like the minute that um adam scott gets into the elevator you see his eyes just kind of glaze over and then all of a sudden like if he was frowning when he got on because he was sad from what was happening in his real life all of a sudden he had a big smile it was like just a total change and then he would walk in and go down all these weird fucking twisting hallways that were all just blanked white hallways

and like you're like is this dude in a fucking rat maze or what it's like you can't figure out where the offices are until he finally gets to his division

and so a lot of that stuff was just sort of freaking me out the first four episodes I'm like I don't know if I want to hang with this what the fuck is going on

but once they really start kind of building the story and you get toward like especially the last the final three episodes where they're actually all working toward something and you finally start to realize what's really going on, it's a pretty amazing show.

So if you get a chance, like, it reminds me a little bit of that TV show that was on FX, the one with Dan Stevens in it, where he was Professor X's son. Oh, Legion? Yeah, yeah, very Legion-esque as far as, like, how trippy it is and, you know, kind of like moving your brain in different directions, like a lot of. of is this really going on or is it just in someone's mind type thing yeah so it reminded me a lot of that but uh i don't know legion kind of lost me whereas this one like the further you went toward the end of the season the more i got into it so and then they ended the

finale on a huge cliffhanger so definitely looking forward to season two but yeah severance is my cool of the week but i've seen a lot of a lot of cool stuff this week a lot of great trailers into the Spider-Hurst trailer. Have you guys seen that one yet? That's going to be a trip. I hope I'm able to see it in 3D. That's one I'd really like to see, I think, in 3D at the theater. I just hope it's as good as the first one.

They got big shoes to fill. Yeah, I got big shoes to fill, but... Uh-oh. And you're, you know, you're looking at that speed... Uh-oh. All right, you're back. Better. Yeah, there was that one scene.

Remember? Aliens hit you too, man? I hope not, man. They're probably right overhead. But there was one scene and they were like, there was a Spider-Man that it just flashed for a little bit, but he had like a paper bag over his head. He has familiar with that character. Yeah, he lost his mask and he had to wear a paper bag on his head. Yeah, it looks like a lot of fun, man.

He's like a Saints man. That's, oh, yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm really looking forward to. There's been some good trailers coming out. But I've also heard there's been a lot of shitty, shitty, shitty movies this year. Not just Scanamarin, but some others as well. Hmm.

I think our friend Matt Smith from the UK weighed in. He said he's seen about five stinkers already this year. And then I don't think he's even seen that devil. conspiracy garbage. We'll see. Maybe they're unloosing a lot more of the trash this year that they held back last year. We'll see. I'm disappointed that devil conspiracy movie sucks.

I was hoping it's terrible. Well, you might like it, man. Try it. Give it a shot. Go to the theater and see it. Tell us what you think. I'm not going to theater to see it, but I'll watch it. All right. you guys ready to move on to some headlines

yeah let's do it all right uh I guess we'll start with some of the bigger headlines uh we all knew it was going to happen because it was a hit at the box office uh the Megan sequel

oh god that was quick no shit it was probably already in production uh it's going to be called Megan 2.0 but the odd thing is the release date is January 17, 2025.

Now that makes no sense. Yeah, it, I don't understand the long release date because every, Megan has a big fan base, a lot of people saying, along with like Art the Clown, this is like a new kind of horror icon franchise that they can profit off of. so I don't know why you would push it out two years. Makes no sense. I could see. Maybe they'll do a Megan in-universe movie or something before that.

I don't know. Yeah, I mean. Like a side character. Well, I mean, look, you got Chuckie and Tiffany, so maybe you can have Megan and, you know, Tommy Bahama or whatever, right? Well, you got James Mon involved. You can have Annabelle in there. Sure. Juanaverse.

There you go. Or the puppet from dead silence. It'll be a bit. Let's forget about that puppy. All right. Let's see. More Friday to 13th news. But this time coming from Sean S. Cunningham,

one of the original wasn't he like one of the original creators of the show or the movie? I think so. Yeah, I think so. And does this have to do with the TV show or is this the game? There's so many things going on.

He's not involved in the show. But I guess he's, I'm assuming the lawsuit thing is done and settled because he, the show is going to happen. But he's developing a, Friday the 13th reboot. That's going to go, that's going to be in the theaters. Probably, probably not a good idea.

Haven't they already rebooted that one at least once? I didn't mind not reboot. The weed selling. Wasn't that the weed selling, Jason? Why is everybody saying he sold weed? When did he sell weed?

I don't remember that one. I might be thinking of a different And I could have sworn that Jason's family, like, had, that were, like, growing cannabis inside of some sort of a room or something. That was the weird guy he killed that was, like, making out with a mannequin. I guess I had just one too many beers that night. So, like, rebooting it from scratch, though? Yeah.

I guess he's developing a... I'm okay with that. Yeah. I mean, he was originally involved with the original one. So maybe he's been kind of, maybe he's been developing something this whole time. There's been this lawsuit, so he's had time to work on it. But he was also a developer, developed the original house movie from the 80s. Oh, yeah. Okay. So he's also planning a reboot that one.

Lance, you stepped off for a second. but he's also going to reboot house. Oh, okay, the one with William Cat in it originally. Okay. He was, uh, well, I probably, as long as he keeps the comedy elements in it, I'm fine with it. But if he tries to make like a serious house, I don't know about that. Well, I think I could be wrong.

Somebody's probably screaming at me, but I think he directed the original one. Okay. Or at least produced it, so. So probably instead of going to Vietnam, Philip, they'll go to Iraq or Afghanistan when he goes inside that one room in the house. I'm just, I'm more stoked about the Friday the 13th thing. Yeah, let's make it more like a, I would say let's make it less of a slasher and more like a thriller or something.

Okay. How do you take the slasher out of Jason? I don't want to see the mother getting a whole movie, though, again. You know what I mean? Like being the killer? I'd rather see Jason, like, step in as the killer from the beginning.

Yeah, I don't necessarily think he's going to redo the movie beat for beat. Yeah. Okay. I would hope that it wouldn't even really be a reboot. It would be like a re-imagining. Right, yeah. Like, start all.

over with the story and go maybe a different route. Do something different and unique. I don't see a whole lot of news. Violin Knight 2 is officially in development, which that was not a surprise.

Makes perfect sense. Yeah. Good movie. Hopefully they'll keep the same David Harbor as Santa. Yeah, I don't think you can't change that and still win. everybody really enjoyed him as Santa Claus, so I don't think they would change that.

Especially with the puking over the side of the sleigh as it moves away. Yeah, I'm not seeing too much. Not a lot of headlines this week, huh? No, I'm double-checking, running through some. If anybody's watching Peacock's Vampire, Academy. That's canceled. Nope.

Okay. Yeah, you lost me at Academy. Alex Wolf from Hereditary. He's going to be in a quiet place day one, the prequel movie. Ah, okay. He looks like he could, right? Nothing.

With a mole. Mole, mole, molly, molly, molly, molly, molly, molly, right? Yeah. Yeah. He looks like he could play like a werewolf or something, right? Am I right?

He's halfway there already. Yeah. Double check in. I think that's it. There's really nothing. All right. Well, slow news week. It's going to be a very slow review week when we get to missing,

but we'll see how that goes. But all right. Still January. What are you going to do? It's still January. But we still got trailer parks. in January. You boys ready? What

accent is that? It's Texas, man. Come on. Jesus Christ. I can't even. I thought you were going I was saying. I was saying. I thought you were going Cajun for a second. It's a little

mishmash of everything, I guess. All right, let's let's try this in true Foghorn, leghorn. I say, boy. I can't do it, man. I got me now. I say, boy, are you stupid or were you born stupid or were you born stupid?

Or did you get that way over time? I say, boy. Go on, step up to the plate. All you got to do is hit one baseball. Come on now. I don't know. Was that decent or was that horrible? It started good and you kind of losing it at the time.

I was like, oh, we're sticking to this. Okay. All right, well, look, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about tonight? We're going to start with Baby Ruby, which Philip correct to me. Yeah, it's not Baby Ruth. That was my stomach talking. I thought it was the origin of the candy bar.

Yeah. This one is a new horror thriller. Let's see. Synopsis, the tightly scripted world of a blogger. and influencer unravels after she becomes a mother in noted playwright Best Wolles feature

debut. So I'm assuming, yes, Best Full directed and wrote it and the stars. Oh my gosh. No, no any. Morant. Wait a minute. John Snow is in this.

Yes. John Snow looked like he got a dad bod because I didn't recognize him at I didn't realize this, yeah. You know nothing, John Snow. And this also stars... But you eat everything.

This star is Meredith Hanger, and she is definitely easy on the eyes. Yeah. And a bunch of other people. I'll jump in first. I'll check this out. This really kind of gave me psychological horror fails,

because, you know, I don't know if this is like stuff that's actually going on with the baby because she has the baby brings the baby home. Baby won't stop crying, you know, crying constantly, and everybody's kind of telling her this is normal. But you get the sense that it's not normal. And as the trailer kind of plays on, it kind of gave me the feels like, is this really happening or is she losing it? That'll be cool.

I like that angle. Is it, does it remind you guys of, because y'all both saw the baby, right? The series, the baby? Yeah. The baby was a little bit more comedic. Okay. So this doesn't give you that vibe then at all? No, because, I mean, like I said, the baby.

That one was like bad things happen to you when the baby's near. Yeah. Yeah. Ah. Oh, okay. Oh, gosh. Yikes. Doing that stuff.

There was that scene where she's seen a lady with the stroller and the baby out and throw the baby at the car. Oh, my gosh. We're throwing babies in this movie. This definitely might be some unreliable narrator shit going on right here, man. It doesn't sound like that's really happening. If anything, it gave me,

what's that movie? We need to talk about Kevin. Oh, yeah. Where she was constantly trying to tell everybody there was something wrong with him. and he's not right and everybody was just like John C. Riley played the husband and he was like, well, my son's great. He's amazing. And, you know, spoiler, you know, he murders everybody at school. Yeah.

So it kind of gave me that vibes because there was a scene in that movie where Kevin was crying as a baby constantly and would stop when the people were around. Oh, I got it. Little play acting, maybe. Yeah. Kind of weird little psychopath. Yeah, that kid. Most babies are. They learned so young.

That kid would purposely shit himself after being changed just just so his mother would have to, like, clean him again. I was like, you little fucker. That sounds about right. Jesus Christ. But it gave me that vibes to where I don't know if this is like an evil baby,

and it's like fucking with her, or if this is just all in her head, and she's just, we're going to watch a movie where this woman is just slowly losing it. Yeah. And then he got John Snow. And then you got John Snow

with the dad pod. Yeah, he probably said like 10 things in the trailer. Yeah. Yeah, I was kind of like, I was like, is that him or isn't that him? You know? Well, he's a lot to cut his hair now.

Right. True. Not contractually bound anymore, I guess. Huh? It could have hired Dak Prescott to throw the baby, but it wouldn't hit the car. Oh, no! They ended up in the other team's hands. I was just about to say, I don't know why I pictured the baby being thrown

and somebody just jumping in and grabbing it. Perfect fast to the other team. I don't know about this one, man. Brian, I think you summed it up, dude. It's kind of hard to tell if it's stuff that's really happening. Like at first I was like is this going to be like a Rosemary's baby thing? Yeah, that's like when it's five I got at first. I mean, it could go that way too.

It just, there was just certain elements. I was just like, are they going to switch it on us and just make it? Maybe, I'm thinking maybe they switched out the baby and this isn't really her baby. That's, I got that weird thought, you know, but I guess we'll find out when we see the movie, you know, what it, what's really going on. we never will know what the truth is, you know? Maybe it's the best interpretation. Let's see. Release date February 3rd, so not too far from now.

Are you looking forward to this one, Philip? It's kind of like the horrors of child raising. You're into that. You got plenty of that going on. Yeah, hey, demon babies are fun. I mean, you know, probably not so much in real life, but I'll watch a movie about it. All right.

On to our final trailer, which was the actual official trailer, because we saw the teaser a couple weeks ago. Scream 6. Official trailer. I think I called it. Someone got a shotgun to the face. Yes? Yeah. I'm so intrigued on what the story is, because I think this, this could.

make or break this movie, the story, because you got the introduction of what they're saying is a ghost face. Nobody's ever, you never seen this kind of ghost face before. I think he drops that line in the movie. So I'm really, really curious on where they're taking this movie. Well, I mean, I think they nailed it like right, perfect timing with, what's her name, Jenna Ortega. Yeah. Oh, for sure. on top of the fucking world right now.

And now she's going to start in this thing. And it looks good. I think it's going to be the best one we've seen yet. Yeah, definitely. They said they're up into the violence and gore in this one. Okay. We got, what's her name, Hayden Panetti back as Kirby. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I forgot about her. Yeah. And there was a little scene. I don't know if it was a misdirect in the trailer where, Jenna Ortega kind of had a sinister look on her face. So I don't know. I didn't catch that.

Maybe she's a kid. Because I think there's, I've heard a theory that there's multiple ghost face in it. Like maybe a cult of ghost faces. Okay. So, all, how do you explain the part where they're like, first of all, they're in Manhattan, right? They're not back in, you know, wherever they're the little town that they're in normally. And how do you explain the fact that they have like a, what was it like, they opened the curtains and there's like a museum

dedicated to all the different ghost face there's someone that worships them or something? I heard a theory that there's multiple ghost face almost like a cult of them. That brings to that. The main, I've heard theories that the main one added that kind of

collected all this stuff is somebody from the past. Okay. And we're going to have that's that was my guess when we talked about it. They're telling us Neff Camber's not in the movie.

And then when we get that scene and somebody taking a mask off, boom. Well, would they make it that low-hanging fruit, though? I mean, really? You know, I mean, come on. Yeah. That's almost too obvious. Almost too on the nose. I mean.

People would love it. Audience would go wild in the theater. I mean, there's a lot of questions. the main girl that Billy Loomis's daughter Why does she have a mask in her possession You know stuff like that Okay

Is she still seeing her visions of her father Does people know she's talking to her dead father? Yeah You know there's a lot of questions And people said they saw Samara weaving in the trailer I didn't see her nowhere No I think I wouldn't notice Samara weaving I'd like to think of it would.

Philip, I appreciate your enthusiasm for a dude, but I hope this isn't the one that jumps the shark. You know? No, you're not taking, you're not taking him to space, granted, but you are taking them to Manhattan, so. Well, it's a half person that's collecting. Yeah, that's collecting everything. It's going to have to be somebody that's been in the movies.

They're not just going to have some brand-off. Oh, oh. Yeah. That would be really bad, wouldn't it? Are they going to create like a ghost face universe now? I mean, like John Wick, the Continental? I mean, I would say if anybody, I mean, other than Sydney, it would be, right?

Maybe it's Gail Weathers. I mean, she has access to all that stuff. Okay. Well, she has an inquisitive mind. She definitely has an inquisitive mind. She's a reporter. Or maybe that's why Kirby's back. Hayden Pantheir, maybe she's involved.

Maybe, you know, I don't know. Wow. But I heard this is a bigger story because it's going to lead into the next one. So they have something planned and I wasn't, I wasn't really disappointed with the previous one. So yeah. Oh, not at all. Yeah. That was a, that was a good movie.

So that's my favorite, my favorite screen movie since three, Brian. So. But this is. definitely not the last chapter I take it okay yeah whatever whatever story that I planned out I heard it involves a scream 7

so cool okay whatever whatever goes on in this one if all the rumors are true it won't be the end of this storyline that's introduced into this movie so

we'll see more to come remains to be seen March 10th. Okay. Don't have too long. Now, this one, they didn't wait too long. So that's how you get a sequel out, right? Like just a little beyond a year after the one before.

I'm glad that we're seeing trailers and it's like, oh, yeah, the movie's about to come out next month or whatever. Sure. Instead of, here's a trailer, the movie's going to come out in three years. Yeah, right. That's the worst, man. That is the worst when they do that. I just seen Netflix put out there, you know, every beginning of the year they put out like a reel of all the movies coming out. Sure.

And I got, I guess Zach Snyder has like an epic sci-fi action thriller coming out in December. Great. I was like, I've been hearing a lot about Rebel Moon and it looks pretty cool and it has like a big cast. And then they showed some of it in the little sizzle reel. and then it flashed the date, like December 23rd or something. I was like, well, the fire. They got you. Yeah, there's no use getting excited for it that early

because by that point, the buzz will wear off. All right, that's it. Okay, let's move on to some listener feedback. Checking my dog, guys. I'll be right back. All right. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on $2. Late Feed.

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Because I was a big karate kid fan So I had like the outfit with the headband Oh yeah Yeah Yeah I remember asking my mom one time Like if I had like any Japanese heritage or whatever And she was like what?

No I remember those Broken Remember those magazines They used to have like the throwing stars And the nunchucks And Yeah

Like karate I used to have some throwing stars Yeah I was like I'm going to buy this. I'm going to buy that. My parents are like, no, you're not.

Yeah. You're not buying size and throwing stars and nunchucks. It's like, I will one day. And I never do. They're hard to find now. I got a, I had a throwing star back in the 80s and I lost it in my neighbor's yard because I was throwing it at a treat and it missed.

Yeah. So that sucker's gone and probably slice somebody's foot open. let's ask Lance Lance you ever wanted to be a ninja when you were a kid you ever wanted to be a ninja you ever wanted to be a ninja until I watched the last season of Cobra Kai and then that turned me off totally

there's no ninjas in there that's the problem I'm looking a little more like Beverly Hill Beverly Hill's ninja nowadays no we all wanted to be ninjas when we were kids am I right? Yeah I was telling Philip the member of those karate magazine where you can order like throwing stars and nun chucks and that's awesome they used to have uh they

used to have ads like on the last page of the comic book right where you could order those yeah i was like i had i think i ordered so and they were like plastic i had i had some real deal nunchucks but i had to get rid of them did my cousin almost knocked himself out swinging them that'll do it yeah that's not the most efficient weapon in the world yeah true I mean clearly

he was swinging it he was swinging it too close to his head yeah and he just like was caught the top of his head well that'll happen if you don't know what you're doing

shout out to Derek if you're listening he actually hit himself twice with the nuncharks he got himself again right after that. Was one of the hits? Yeah, I was going to say was at least one in his nuts. No, he hit himself in the head.

Both times? Yikes. With 10 seconds. That sounds mean. Decided to put the nunchucks down. Right. That sounds painful for me. Yeah, $2 late fee.

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for Most Anticipated Movie of 2023. and I wholeheartedly agree. Is Nicholas Cage in that? That'd be. That'd be awesome. I just rewatched what's that movie? A Unbearable way to Master Talent?

Oh, yes. He's fucking fantastic in that movie. So is Pedro Pascal. That whole scene where they were doing acid. That was fantastic. Just to look on Pedro's face when they're driving in the car. and he's just like smiling with his eyes like super wide.

You know what, I might watch that movie after we're done recording tonight. It's either going to be that or the last of this premiere. So maybe I'll flip a coin, let the fates decide. I think you can't go wrong with either one. I don't think so either. And speaking of Pedro Pascal, we have season three. I'm surprised you didn't have us watch the trailer for the upcoming season three, Brian. I totally forgot it.

We could talk about it real quick. I forgot about it because the trailer came out. One of those shows we were doing trailers. But, yeah, it looks like they're keeping that train moving forward. Like, I didn't see nothing in the trailer that disappointed me. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the way. I was slightly let down by last season.

So hopefully they bring it back. Yeah, I mean, it just wasn't as good as the first. season. Although that's going to be hard to do. That can happen. Not enough Bill Burr. Huh? Not enough Bill Burr.

Yeah. Hey, I love Bill Burr. He's good. He's good. And regarding alone, Ryan Steven said he loved this one. So we'll see what we thought about it. Cineau Babes says, thanks so much for sharing. No problem.

Horrors Edge says thanks for sharing the podcast. Are he very much appreciate him? Very nice. Oh, here's another one regarding Skidammerink. Uh-oh. Dink, skinnamar. Oh, boy. Is this available streaming anywhere from Eric Bailanak?

Is it? I wanted to tell him, but, you know, I try not to on social media. I got you. Try not to devil some sources. Trying to push that narrative. because honestly if I had a chance to see it in a theater I would have supported filmmakers

but I'll just say I'm glad I didn't go to the theater I think Brian I think it's safe to say they've made their 15,000 back by now yeah that's true I think you're safe so nowhere easy although I'm sure it'll be on shutter or something eventually here

yeah Brian said it's over February 1st right oh okay February 1st, whatever that first weekend is of February is going to be a shutter. Okay. There you go, Eric. You don't have to wait too long. Well, I'll check it out just because of the buzz. Here we go.

Regarding Velma, the new one. Ryan Steven says it's total crap. I have heard nothing but trash about this show. I haven't watched it, but I'll just say, everybody calmed down it didn't ruin your childhood here we go with the Brian Johnson Star Wars shit I mean it didn't ruin it I mean you still have your Scooby-Doo

he didn't go nowhere I got you If you don't like it don't Oh wait was it Scooby-Din that met the Phantom of the Paradise or whatever The Phantom of the Park I mean there's a lot of shit stuff they do I mean, Scooby-Doo wrestled John Cena in a fucking movie, I think.

They all showed up in Supernatural. That was a pretty awesome episode. No. Was it animated? Yeah, they like got sucked into a TV and went to an animated war. No way. Yeah, it was great. I gotta see that, dude.

That sounds amazing. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I just feel like people. It's back to the thing Pedro was trying to get it, Kevin, about the whole when Nez said people need to stop

getting mad over Halloween and stuff. I think what you was trying to say is not that you can't be mad at the product, but getting mad to the point where you're arguing and just being nasty on the internet for no, you know, it's a

fucking cartoon. Yeah. It's an adult take on a cartoon and I think people are just flipping out and arguing and I don't know I'm sure I'm sure it doesn't go as far as Terry Pop-Tart

did for Archie Comics so well what were you going to say I have I have no reason to watch it I don't plan on it so yeah right it's not on the agenda yeah and it pops up maybe that show was not made for me and that's my point

like you know if there's there's people that watched it that hated it before you know, why? If you dig it, watch it. If you don't dig it, don't watch it. Yeah, I mean, if you don't like it, why do you keep watching it? There's only 16,000 other

streaming services out there, Philip, buying for our... There's $5, 10, or $20 a month. There's a lot of people that hate watch things. Yeah, true. Don't let me get on those certain Star Wars fans that go see the horror's movie like five times and like complain about it every time they watch it.

I was like, you just went to the theater five times to see the movie. Well, there it is. Don't watch film. Luke in his blue milk. We'll go away. We're talking to you, Patrick. Luke is blue milk. And Marcus Will Turner says New York City has becomes a battlefield for a different kind of ghost face

in the second trailer for the next installment of the ground page. franchise. A hem, Hor orgasm. You guys are a lot more excited for it than I am. Marcus, Philip, I think you guys are... I'm not even a huge fan of the screen movies, but the trailer looks good. Okay, I hope it's as good as y'all think.

I think it's going to jump to sharp. Brian, who do you think is going to be... I think it's going to be good. They hit that, like, Meteor... I'm in the minority as usual. As always, I'm in the minority. Which is strange, which is strange because you love the previous one so much.

Very much, yeah. And it's the same cast and the same directors coming back. Oh, same directors? Okay. Well, then I guess, you know what? I need to sit back, relax, and have a little bit of faith. I'm just saying they hit that meteor cries of Jenna Ortega and this movie coming out at the right time.

And I think it's got a good chance. I just think taking ghost face to... Okay, cool. And they brought Hayden Panettiary back. And it's got some more women. A minor character for one fucking movie. I don't give a fuck. She's saved the cheerleader, save the world.

Bring her back for every movie. They need to bring heroes back with decent actors again. Yeah, they need to start over at season two and just nullify the rest of it. That would be great. That was a right. thing. Yeah, that happened to that old writer's strike.

Speaking of going back to loss, Brian, that's what happened to loss one year. Because I know it's kind of hard to slog through because it's like 23, 24, you know, episodes of season because it was network TV. But they did have that one

writer's strike shortened season that was only like maybe like 10 or 12 episodes or something like that. And I don't know, man. Give it a shot. If you, you said you're going to at least watch the first episode, right? And he's,

and heroes. I fucking, that first season, I loved heroes. Love. Okay. Lost is the same way. The first season of Lost is

almost as good as the first season of Heroes and then they sort of got off. I love that season so much. That was back when I was like tuning in to TV like every week. And then when that second season hit,

I think I tapped out like third episode. I was just like, this is not the same show. And that was before I was like really Really into finding out information about movies and TV shows And that's when I found out it was Different writers because of the they had a big writer's strike

The writer strike thing, sure I'm sure I'm amazed there's still stuff that comes on broadcast TV It feels like it should just be like sports news And that's it Judge Judy Well yeah but it's like CSI New Orleans CSI Baton Rouge

CSI Lake Charles and that's just Louisiana Well they got that Chicago what is it Chicago PD Chicago That's right Chicago Chicago

Chicago Janitor Service That's the one where they kept interrupting law in order To bring in the Chicago people And I'm like I don't know who the fuck these people are I don't care Philip

Philip god damn it When are they going to make a When are they going to make a TV show about the real heroes of the world the electricians, man. Come on. That's riveting TV, am I right?

Wouldn't that keep you glued to your set every week, am I right? I tell you. What's his name needs to be the star of that one? I forgot his name. When we did, when we watched House 2. Oh, yeah. That guy.

He gave him his business car and it said electrician and part-time. Yeah, the guy from... You got from Cheers, right? Norm from Cheers or something like that. It's the last name like... I've been energized about like a... Reality show before.

And I'm like a competition type thing. Right? It's a good thing we're going off on a lot of tangents because only one of us who's seen the main feature tonight. It's going to be a five-word review, period. No, you got to give us more five. Well, I'll let you guys ask questions. Yeah, we'll talk about it for sure.

Marcus also shared Hey peeps, it's been a while but I'm back on another podcast. Nice. What podcast? Oh, here you go. This time around I'm on episode 5 of Bede versus the Living Dead.

Which we're supposed to do tomorrow night. I can't make it, guys. Can you all know? Yeah, I didn't even know about it. I already reached out to Bede. I'm going to try to do next week. If y'all want to try to do it, the movies look awesome. They're like these terrible Light of the Living Dead 3D,

double D, triple D, RIP off, bullshit. They look terrible. Better be movies. Oh, there will be. I watched like the first five minutes of each of them. And it was like, let me put it to you this way, it was so bad that it was like taking place in a mortuary.

And it was showing like the corpse of the grandfather laying there. And they were all talking about them and crying and everything. And you can see the guy's moving like something. I think a fly was crawling on them or something. up there. You know what the rest of the take is good? We'll just leave it in. Right.

Okay. If we tried it 50 times, that's the best one. That's it. It stays. But yeah, so he's on episode five of Bede versus the Living Dead. So when you get a chance, take a listen. To host Bede Germain and his guests, Amy Hikari, John Sevy, from Half Forrest.

Amy Sedaris. What? Amy. Speaking of the Mandalorian. Oh, okay. I thought you had Amy Sedaris on there. I'm like, wow. I mean, I will say this.

Marcy has some, Marcy has some connections. Oh, yeah, for sure. Her sister's a big time filmmaker. So, yeah. Yeah. And of course, Marcus, as we dive extensively into the technical's differences, commonalities and overall hysterical comedy of the Rift Tracks Live and colorized versions.

Night of the Living Dead. There you go. And C.J. Ducote posted a review of dead nude girls. Like this. I feel like I've seen this movie. I feel like I need to. I think you've drank it. Zombie sense for sure.

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Enjoy. Thanks, sir. Nice. And Mike Batchel, Gai'Khajoo. I don't know that. Beat your mind says, Lance, you make an appearance on this one.

Oh, yeah, the Titanic. What was Titanic, too? How do you make a sequel to Titanic? Make a bigger show. I guess. Yeah. I saw a Valentine's card the other day that said, it was like a picture of rose

floating on a on the door or whatever and it says honey I would have made room for you yeah that's what I'm saying what a selfish bitch there's a gif I saw of like a frog on a lily pad and another one's trying to jump up and it like the frog

kicks him off and it's like oh geez it did the whole Titanic thing it was pretty fine oh my God that's hilarious regarding blood relatives Gabriel Dice says Got to see this premiere with Q&A

with Noah Segan afterwards. He's a cool dude. Nice. Cool. Yeah. Samantha Bean reposted a movie like Skinnamarink making over 700K

in a single weekend entirely off a viral word of mouth off of a pirated copy of the filming going around is pretty damn astounding. Yeah, I agree. Yes, sir. Yeah.

Yeah. And Michael Green adds yet loved it, but the people I was watching it with didn't. Definitely worth checking out. Brian, were you in that group? Of what? The ones that didn't love it? I would have to lean towards, yes.

Oh, by the way, I just got a yes. Speaking of yes, I just got a yes from Gabriel Tice, filmmaker, that he will be one of our judges for the March Madness. Awesome. So we're getting the word out there. We got our first confirmed. case of March Madness. Calling it right now, I'm not going to be a backup.

I'm not being a backup contestant. No? Elevated horror is not my thing. Well, you won't need to be, dude. We've got like seven or eight people. We're going to have to fight off people that want to be on this one. Well, I'm just saying last year I had to be a backup for, what was it?

Exploitation movies. Exploitation? And nobody liked none of the stuff. I was voting for. So, well, there you go, man. I'll watch a couple of them after we had that episode because I hadn't seen them when I was like, I need to watch these movies. It was awesome.

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so I don't know it counts I was going to ask we'll start with Alone from 2020 a recently widowed traveler is kidnapped

by a cold-blooded killer only to escape into the wilderness where she is first to battle against the elements as her pursuit of course and on her

spoiler alert that gives away the first hour of the movie Jesus oh I guess it kind of is I know

and I read it before I saw the movie and I'm like, fuck! Well, if you haven't seen it yet, don't listen to that part and go watch it. Yeah, please. It's a great movie. I'm showing my hand, but I enjoyed it. But I keep asking, man. Way too early.

Director is John Hymes, also known for the TV show, Chuckie. I've heard of that show. Well, there you go. That's why I like it. Writer is Matthias Olson, also known for several Swedish films that I would, for you. Beekito, you know what she's not. I don't know.

Philip did good on the, well, is it the hatching? I don't know his names. Yeah, I'm trying to throw that name. So I'm like, I don't know. Just don't want an accent and get it as close as I can. Right. Sam uses the tactic of appearing helpless, wearing a sling and needing assistance with his car

to try to lure Jessica out of her car. This is a tactic used by real-life serial killer Ted Bundy. It also is used by Jane Gum to lure Catherine Martin into his van and Silence of the Lambs. So be careful of guys with injuries. Right. First in the note. All right.

Well, Lance, get us started. What did you think about it alone? I liked it. I did. I enjoyed it. I love the way that it built up. I thought it was three distinct acts that were incredibly well drawn out. I wish that I had read that little description before because I didn't know what was going to happen.

I wish I had known what was going to happen, you know, that she was going to eventually escape. But I will say this, the actor that played the, was he really for sure a killer, though? Like, did they say for sure. Well, he did kill the one. Okay. He did actually kill someone in the movie Now that you mentioned it, but Was he getting her to kill her though or just to rape her?

Did you guys think? Yes. For sure? Well, because he said she wasn't like the first one. Ah. Argument or whatever. Okay. Yeah, that's right.

Motivations behind him. Clearly, this was a cabin that he probably owned and used multiple times that his wife that he talked to on. phone didn't even know about it. Yes. What he said he was at a hotel for a business meeting. Right. Right.

So he probably goes on these business meetings a couple times a year and he just goes to this cabin that probably nobody even knows about. Yeah, because it's nowhere. Obviously she did not have him on Find a Friend on the iPhone.

No. No. The part they got me, Well, the part where I knew I was going to enjoy this movie was the way that they were able to capture what it's like being alone when you're driving on the road like that. Yeah. And for a woman, I'm sure it's 10 times worse. But when I was taking my new electric car, right, I took it all the way to Albuquerque. And it was like a 24 hour straight drive.

And there's a couple of charging stops that were a little sketchy, you know, that I would have to stop at. I'm like, man, if I was a woman and I was out here alone, I could imagine the fear, you know, the fear level would be, you know, elevated that much because of the way that, you know, our society is, the way that things are. And I just kind of get the feeling that this director had a pretty good handle on that. I don't know if it was the directing or if it was her acting, but she definitely portrayed that. I mean, I got that sense of fear and that sense of dread and very aptly named movie alone because she really was. was, you know, and that was, um, that was my favorite part of the movie, actually. It was kind of like the first act before he even really got her. And then when he kept showing up, and it was like every time he was a little bit more creepy and a little bit more creepy. And then he just acted like

he was so fucking entitled, right? Like he's like, you fucking cunt, you bitch, you know, why did you ignore me? Why did you drive away from me? Why didn't you listen to me? Well, because you're a fucking rapist than a killer, you asshole. You know, it's just some rando on the road, man. Yeah, no shit. No shit. And then he, I think he, wasn't he the father in Ozark? Like Ruth's the uncle. Ruth's father or uncle? Oh, I was going to say he looked like the guy from the walking dead.

He's an uncle that was sleeping with the FBI agent. That's right. That's right. Yes. And he, he was a very similar character in that one, right? Like, you know, really aggressive. He wasn't rapy. Yeah.

Well, rapy in a different, in a different, way I get. Well, no, I guess that was consensual. Yeah, no, he plays that character well. I thought I thought both of the characters did a phenomenal job. Yeah, he was also in the movie we talked about last week. The

retaliators. No kidding. Okay, cool. Yeah, I definitely got to see that movie. I just haven't, like I said, I haven't really been able to find it yet. but I was worried. Oh, he's in sick. Oh, well, shit. He's in everything all of a sudden then, huh?

Yeah, no kidding. He's a good actor. Yeah, I like him. Yeah, he, uh, is he this same exact typecast in those movies, Brian, or is he a different type of character? He plays this role pretty good. Okay. So I don't know if he's typecast, but.

He didn't really play this type of character in Ozark. He was, you know, had different levels to him in that one. Yeah, sure. That one had a great story arc, so. Yeah. But I can see him, if he hasn't been, I could see him being typecast in these kind of roles. As the creepy guy. Yeah.

He was convincing. I really, yeah, I really thought that the last third, once you get past what everything IMDB tells you, is in the movie. I thought it was just kind of like, you know, more of just a generic thriller type movie. Like, is she going to get away or is it going to end up more like that one that unfortunately ended really sad that we watched that took place in the UK that had Michael Phamspender and Eden Lake. Yeah, I was worried about we were going to get the Eden Lake ending there for a little bit,

but we didn't. So, yeah, a good movie. I enjoyed it. I thought it was three really. three really nicely done acts. I wish I hadn't read that description prior to watching it, but even with that, I got a lot out of it. Good movie.

Brian, what do you think? I loved it. I've seen this before. Actually, I kind of remembered it a little bit different to the scene where she calls the wife. Oh, yeah. I thought I clearly remembered that the wife, when she put the wife on speakerphone, the wife said something about do what you have to do.

of the husband. That's what I thought I remembered. But that wasn't the case. Yeah, I love the movie. I agree with you, Lance. It's different acts. And she carried this movie with her portrayal of at first being kind of scared.

But I would say scared, but she made a lot of correct decisions, though. She didn't help him. She drove away. Yes. Yes. She did the right thing. she acted on her instincts.

Her instincts were telling her this guy's no good and just she acted on all of them. And I thought that was a good change of pace because they brought up in the notes the scene from Silence of the Lambs. I mean that that girl, I'm sorry.

She was kind of fucking dumb in that movie. Because the scene in Silence of the Lambs is when he's asking her to carry a fucking sofa into the van and he has her get in the man and carry the sofa in. Oh, that's right. I'd forgotten about that, man.

Yeah. And if you go back and watch Silence of the Lambs and watch that scene, she's even apprehensive about even helping him. So she didn't act on her instincts. And I just like this portrayal in this one. And then I like the whole, um, she just doesn't have to worry about him. She has to worry about the elements because, you know, she runs out of the house. When she escaped, she has no shoes on. And she immediately steps on a route, which goes into her foot. So she's on one bad foot for the rest of the movie. Yeah.

See, that's where I thought we were going to go in the Eden Lake direction as soon as that happened. I started getting that worry. But the one thing I had a problem with, this guy seems for the most part kind of indestructible. Because he catches a tire iron to the head multiple times and he is not knocked out. Yeah. They kind of overdid that, didn't they? I'm like, man, you need to be a professional fighter or something. Or a Jace, the next Leslie Vernon.

Right? He could have been in training for that. Yeah. Yeah. You don't typically take a tire iron to the head more than once and still move around. Right. Keep rocking and rolling, so to speak. Those things are a pretty good weapon.

And I probably would have said I would have liked a little bit more in their final showdown at the end. Yeah. Because just him knowing that his. wife possibly knows what he's done and that look on his face, kind of like you just, you just fucked up everything for me. Yeah. I kind of thought it would

have been a little bit more brutal. Yeah. Fight to the death. Right. And, which, it wasn't bad. You would like that. That would have been more satisfying, right? Yeah, because she just kind of was, yeah. She, like, bites him through his jacket. Yeah, bites him through his jacket.

What are you doing? He runs at her, and she does some duck move and hits him in the knee with the tire iron. I was like, where did you get all these moves all of a sudden? You shouldn't be doing that from the get-go. Yeah, and I like to, we probably should have said his name. We've been talking about Mark Minchaca, I think that's his name. He's just credited as the man. Right.

I thought he was great. And throughout the movie, he was super creepy. I liked how when he'd get a call from his wife, how he would just, it's nothing to him. He's just, you know, I got some business to handle. I'll probably be here until Wednesday. Yeah.

That's the sign of a, that's the sign of a true sociopath, right? Yeah. Even the scene with, where they run across the hunter, he almost convinced the hunter that he was, that this was his sister and she's mental problems. You know, the guy even

questioned, he was like, okay, this kind of, this is kind of believable. And he looked familiar. Yeah. He's been in the old man. Yeah. And I got to ask that sandwich he gave her. Is that a thing?

Goat cheese and honey? Oh, goat cheese and honey? I don't know, but I'm going to try it. It sounds damn good. I used to have peanut butter and honey sandwiches. That's badass. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I know my mom used to make like cream cheese and like crushed up walnuts and make it into like a paste and make sandwiches with that. That was pretty good. But yeah, goat cheese and honey sounds pretty damn good to me. And I don't know why that stuck out in my head. Because he was like, my wife, my wife makes a mean sandwich, goat cheese and honey. And I was like, huh, huh? Did you think for just a minute that he was in on it, guys?

Or maybe he was drugging her or, you know what I'm saying? Like, did you get that weird? Originally when I watched a horse's ending feeling or? Originally, when I watched it, I was wondering why he was out there. Right. He just... Well, he's hunting. Yeah, he was hunting, but he also seemed out of place.

Yeah, right. He's hunting, duh. Like, maybe he's... Almost maybe he kind of came off like he's a newbie hunter. I don't know. He was out in the middle of fucking nowhere by himself. That's got to be a cool place to be. I guess.

you know yeah i mean just just that and then when they came across the log in front of the road and he she asked is there any other way out of here and he was like how am i supposed to know and i was like well why are you way out here why are you way yeah it's true yeah why didn't you drive your car all the way out there and then i don't are there roads to these woods what the fuck i don't know too many hunters that bring goat cheese and honey sandwiches But, Brian, that goes back to your previous comment about this killer being like kind of superhuman. How the fuck did he get that tree down? He kicked it over, which is power.

Superpowers. Okay. Gotcha. That actually is a really good question. That's a good point. Unless, this is just me kind of making shit up. Maybe the guy really didn't know where he was going and went down the wrong road. Maybe he was lost and the other guy just happened to find. him. Yeah. Yeah. We'll go with that.

That's even harder to believe, but okay. Yeah, because he showed up pretty quick after she got out of the river. Because, I mean, she could have been fucking down that river. I was like, okay, you're getting the river, you're good. Maybe he had a chainsaw in that shed, right? We'll give him that. He seemed to be prepared for everything, so he probably did. So he used that at some point, swinging it around like Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

So he drove ahead. change saw the tree down go back so he can come up behind him oh no we're finding all the holes in this story aren't we nice and then at the tree's down how did he get out well darn it and I did like the

kind of backstory like you said the whole alone thing Lance how she was dealing with the loss of her husband which he tried to use against her which I think kind of motivated her to survive makes sense sure are you gonna Are you going to give up like your husband did when he killed himself?

Oh, that he was a coward? Yeah. I think he ended up actually fucking motivating her at the end there. Yeah. Good point. Yeah, I enjoyed this one too. I didn't know anything about it before watching it. I was trying to make sure I was watching the right fucking movie.

He's got sort of a generic name, you know? Yes. And there was a lot of moments where I think, thought, man, she could have handled that differently, and if she's going to attack him, well, and now's your opportunity. It's not kind of a thing. And, like, you know, when he was sitting at his table talking to his wife and she's just trying to get out of the house, like, I get it. But you got a log right there, man, go smash his head.

Yeah, no shit. I thought, surely she was going to run out and start yelling and saying, hey, I'm being out hostage, right? Yeah, she could have probably ended it right then and there. Yeah. You know? But. But most of those movies are like that, you know, Monday morning quarterback in a little bit. Sure, sure.

Yeah, maybe if she's driving on a big-ass road trip by herself, she should have been had some kind of weapon on her at least, you know? Right. That could have ended it real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Where was the set? Because. Uh, kind of looked like the Pacific Northwest.

I was going to say, got to be up in that Pacific Northwest area. It could have been around. which looks fucking gorgeous like that'd be a full place to go weren't there mountains and stuff like that I'm gonna look it up while you guys are talking because a lot of the times IMDB is pretty good about giving you

filming locations yeah well and then jumping in that river was risky but I think it was there only out at that moment no option at that point man it was either that or just like this motherfucker take you you know I'm kind of amazed that she ran into another living person.

But also once she jumped in the river, there's no way that guy's going to fucking find her again, I would think. But I guess he set the hunter up by kicking down. Okay. It was filmed in and around the woods of Portland, Oregon. There you go. Yeah.

Spot on. We hit it. Yeah. The setting was completely gorgeous for such a gross movie, you know? I guess it wasn't that gross as far as... Well, I mean, shit happens. Yeah, I mean, it was...

There was alluding to what he probably was going to do to her. Yeah. Right. And I do like that, like, you know, when the car flip and all that stuff, and she was, like, down in the... Matter of fact, it looked like they used a different fucking video camera to... to film that part or something, because there was, like, film burns and...

stuff in it while she was sort of getting herself back together and crawling through the mud. Went to kind of a grind house looked a little bit. Yeah. I don't know if that was intentional or that's just the footage that they had or whatever, but I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was.

Maybe they tried to create the illusion of her, like kind of being out of it. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I can see that. It looked a little more grimy and old school when she was doing that and then it kind of went back to normal. right but no I I enjoyed it

anytime they have these you know this guy is chasing somebody movie I'm always like wow now's your opportunity what are you doing I know yeah like you said Monday morning quarterbacking right they keep knocking him down and then running away I mean she got she got away at the end so I was happy yeah I was just glad it wasn't a downer ending because I was

really worried that was something was going to fall out from under there at the end, but I'm glad it didn't. Okay, now that other movie, Eden Lake was it, right? Eden Lake, yeah. Yeah, that was a better movie, I thought. Oh, better quality, sure. But this one was pretty good. It was interesting.

It held my attention. Yeah, same here. Oh, this guy, John Hames, the director, he directed sick. No. Yeah. Holy shit. Maybe that's what I'm going to watch after we're done recording. I can't figure out what I'm going to watch.

Kind of looking over stuff that he's done. And he's done some action movies. And recently, yeah, he did sick. Oh, kidding. And so that explains why he uses the same actor then. They probably work together pretty well. But I wonder, was he at all involved in Ozark, Brian, by any chance? I don't see.

He did work on that. zombie show on Netflix, Black Summer. He directed some successful that too. Okay. And there were two of those, right? There was Black Summer,

and then there was War War Z. No? What am I thinking? Oh, you're thinking of that. Z-Nage. Yeah. Did he work with that one?

No, I don't see it here. Okay. He worked on that show Roswell. Oh. Oh. That's right at Phillips, Sally. well except it was one of those CW aliens again

yeah it was like one of those CW teen shows you know what I mean Teen aliens in love He directed a couple episodes of Chicago PD and Chicago Fire There you go Full circle boys full circle All right y'all ready for scores so I can give my five word No You're giving us more than you're giving us more than that

All about who you know All right scores Lance what do you think um uh it's a seven it's solid i liked it okay Brian um I go a little bit higher seven and a half it's a solid uh kidnapping thriller you know the story doesn't like reinvent the wheel or anything but there was a there was a lot of I think she carried the movie he also carried the movie too because it's primarily just them to in the whole movie and I think they kind of worked well

telling the story and I like her progression from the beginning to the end and yeah it was a pretty solid movie yeah I can go seven I think it was pretty decent public service announcement

controversial opinion ladies go get a fucking gun they're not that's good this movie could have been over in 10 minutes he comes and breaks the window with a fucking tire iron and she pops him in the face that's all she wrote or for those people like in California and New York where you can't carry guns

carry a knife right yeah or a taser or something or what about those uh what about you've heard about these 90,000 volt stunner things that are like they're it's like a walking stick but it has a stunner on the end of it like a caliphr Rod. I shit you not. My wife's store got robbed last week. Oh. That's the only thing the guy had.

Really? He took two expensive, like fucking $6,000 coffee machines, put him onto a little pallet jack thing, or a little dolly, I mean. And he was going out, and the one male employee that was in the store confronted him, and he pulled that bad boy out, which is about this long.

It's literally the size of a walking stick. I think people use it like when they go on nature trails. So like if a dog comes up to you, they can get the dog. And the guy just pushed the button and went zip, zip. And the dude cleared out of the way and said, take the coffee makers. And they got a clean get away. It's not his coffee maker. It's a real thing.

Well, especially on those stores. I mean, hell, Lance, you worked at Target. You know, the... Sure. Those places are not hard to rob because they can't really fucking do anything. you. No, not really. And they always say if they've got something, it's either that or you, let them take it. Yeah. I mean, which I guess is, I don't know, I'd have a hard time with that. Well, look, man, the reality is by the time the retail store files the insurance claim based

on the police report and all that, those two $6,000 coffee machines all of a sudden became 10, $6,000 coffee machines. So, you know, that's the way it works. Work the system. Yep. Yeah, but I self-defense, man. If you're going to be scared alone, you don't have to. Yep. Fair enough. I like it.

I would have given her to 10. If that movie was like, if she'd blown him away and it was a 15-minute love, the S.A. movie. The creepy guy, because, you know, we've always run it. We've all run across that fucking guy who's blocking you in on the road. You pass him and then he skips up or whatever. Yes, that cuck up.

Yeah. Wow, that would have been a fucking movie that after the road incident, at the rest up, he walks up to her and he's like, oh, sorry about, pow! Well, maybe that's a little early. But when he breaks out the tire iron and kicks in the window, then it's time to... Just... I'm sorry about that.

I didn't mean to scare you, bam! That's the sequel. You can add a little couple minutes after she's showing. shoot some where the police was like, oh, we've been looking for this guy. I know. Brian Phillip, you guys just wrote the sequel. There it is. All you need is $15,000 to make it and we're off to the races.

Skinnamarink money. We'll spend it all on the special effects of the head of clothing. All right. Missing. Missing. 2023. After her mother goes missing, a young woman tries to find her from home using. tools available to her online.

Director and writers are Nicholas Johnson and Will Merrick. Writer is Adam Green, also known for searching. Like its predecessor searching, background news articles apparently reference a potential alien invasion. I don't think Adam Green was the writer. I think I forgot to change out the notes from last week. Sorry, guys. Oops. I don't think Adam Green wrote this one.

Okay. Whoever the guy has wrote searching. F-Y-I. I think it's the same, wasn't the same two guys? I think they wrote Ant directed it. Oh, okay, okay. No Adam Greene. Okay. But yeah, like its predecessor searching,

background news articles apparently reference a potential alien invasion happening concurrently with the events of this movie. I noticed one headline that said something like something was seen over the, over some farm somewhere, and they were wondering if it was just like flashing lights or if it was something else. But there's, these are those movies you've got to rewatch. over and over and over and over and over again. Kind of like, what was that one we saw with the real bitchy lady that was the musician

that she was in the UK and, oh, Dashcam. Remember that one? That was in the UK? Yeah, yeah, because remember that's where it all went down. She went to go visit her friend in the UK. And she didn't want to wear the mask in the airport. I feel like I'm losing my mind. I never noticed in the UK.

Oh, Dashcambe, dude. Yes. she went to visit her friend and she didn't hit it off with the friend's girlfriend and she ended up like grabbing his car and taking it from him I don't want the old lady's shit in the car

yeah that's right hate it when it happens anyway but those kind of movies or the one that we all love um fuck the one god damn it dude it was on all of our top ten list Fuck.

Help me out. Deadstream. Deadstream, thank you, sir. Deadstream, yeah. There's so much shit going on on the side of the screen. Oh, yeah, I got to watch the movie a dozen times to catch everything that's really happening. So it doesn't play like a pivotal part in the movie then?

No, but I found one. But I was purposely looking for them after reading that bit of trivia. I've never noticed in the original movie or the first. first one searching, but I heard that they snuck those in both movies. Yeah, definitely got to rewatch. Got to rewatch the first one for sure. There's subliminal messages. They're putting them in the movies now so that we can accept the fact that there are

real UFOs out there. The writers know the truth, and they're trying to let us know through movies. That does make sense. Well, you try to change in adults' world perspective and hit them with some serious information like that and they're like, what the fuck ever, you know? Yeah, I know. Yeah, of course.

It takes them too much out of their comfort zone, right? Kills the bubble. All right. So I guess we'll start with you. Shall we start with me? I really, okay, first of all, I loved the first movie. Searching, the one with John Cho.

I thought that was really well done from start to finish. It was a good concept and it was executed well. Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised with it. It wasn't like my favorite movie, but. Yep, I wasn't expecting very much. Now, this one, I think, was the polar opposite because I loved the trailer for this movie, and I was expecting a lot. And I thought, oh, wow, I could just imagine the horror of, you know, we're in this information age where we kind of like, you know,

I'm sure kids have ignored their parents and like, yeah, yeah, whatever, mom, whatever. I'm sure we've done that forever. and just can't wait till they get out of the house. I mean, fuck, look at risky business way back in the 80s. Sometimes you just got to say, what the fuck, right? The Faberge egg may get cracked, right? So, you know, obviously this shit's been going on forever. But I was really looking forward to this movie,

and I thought that the setup was going to be awesome. I was expecting it to be as good of an execution as the first film. I was unpleasantly surprised, unfortunately, guys. I thought the setup was great, like the first 30 minutes, so that maybe were a lot of fun. Which is basically the trailer. We know pretty much everything

that's going to happen in the first half hour. You know, because they spelled it out in the trailer. Her mom goes to fucking Columbia, which is probably not a good idea. You know, like going to Honduras or something like that, where they literally have a higher murder rate right now than

Europe did in the 1500s. So, yeah, not a good idea. Dude, my wife refuses to go to Mexico. Probably a very smart woman. Yeah. Too many family members that have gotten pulled over by the cartel. They're war right now. I don't know if you guys know.

Uh-uh. And they arrested, what's his name's son? Chavez. Hey. The big guy. Yeah. Yeah, Caesar. No.

Ah, fuck. Somebody's yelling at it right now. Yeah, somebody's definitely. The big cartoon guy, they arrested his son, and the cartel went to war with the government and the police. And there was, like, videos online, or you could see, like, the moment he was arrested, like, all these cars started racing down the street. And they're all cartel members. That surprised me. There's a lot of countries that are a whole lot more dangerous than here.

No shit. Yeah. Look his name up, because I feel like that. At least here we have the right to arm ourselves. Some places we don't. Yeah, well, and even if you did, you're met by a big black SUV with guys full of machine guns and shit. Yeah, I know, dude.

Kind of hard to fight that. Yeah. If you've got one, you know, pistol or whatever. But typically, you just got to, you got to pay them. And then once you've paid them, they let the other guys know. So if you get pulled over again, I'm told that's how it's. That's, is that the system? That's the system.

I'd rather go ahead and take my chances here. But yeah, no, I thought the setup was great. I really do enjoy these. I am finding myself enjoying these movies like this one in Deadstream, where you've got the main action going on on the screen, which may be from like a security camera and then almost like sort of found footage, but it's more like internet age type found footage. Like there were scenes in this movie where you would see somebody acting out

something on a screen and then they would pull the camera back and you'd realize hey wait a minute now we're from the perspectives of somebody watching what's on this screen that's watching something that's on another screen and it's like okay we really are in the information age so I think they got that part right what I think they fucked up with this movie is about 45 nah about an hour into this movie they pulled what I like to call a reub Goldberg. You guys familiar with a Rube Goldberg contraption or the idea of a

Rube Goldberg machine? Like Mousetrake. Basically something that's impossible. You know, it's just silly. It's just ridiculous. It's like, how did we get from point A to point Z and all these little crazy steps in between that didn't

need to be there? And I think that this movie failed prey to that. I think it tried to do too much. And it tried to be too. I I think this movie thought it was much, much smarter than it really was. And I'm not going to give anything away, and we won't even do a spoiler section. You guys can ask me questions. And if I think it's going to, you know, spoil the essence of what really happens in the movie versus what you think is happening, I won't answer them.

But it got silly, dude. You talk about jumping the shark. There was a jump the shark moment. Oh, dude, there was a jump the shark moment in this movie when I was like, Really? And this could just be the Lance versus the Whirl syndrome here, guys, because it's like an 81 or 82% of rotten tomatoes. Really?

And the audience score is like 95%. So people are eating this shit with a fucking spoon. But not this guy. Not this guy. When they pull this bullshit, man. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? You really expect me to swallow this hook line and sing. really and then this guy and then that was really happening all the time and then the

bloody nose really meant this when we thought it meant that well there was a bloody nose spoiler yeah no because it happens at the first five minutes of the movie oh spoiler again yeah so but this is like this is all on like a computer screen like every bit of it's right which I commend I yeah I really like the way they did that. And one, again, there was one particular scene where it was a screen within a screen within a screen, but you started on the first screen, and then you pulled out to another person watching what's happening there. And they're like, oh, so this is where we are. And I had a lot of respect for the filmmakers when they had the balls to pull it out one more. And you've got this

huge, like two computer screens side by side, like a security company type thing where you're watching every single thing at once and there's kind of almost like a mastermind watching everything but then who they made that mastermind was was very silly I don't know how else to describe it so that's my review of

missing what questions do you guys have real quick for anybody that was yelling at me for not knowing the guy arrested was he goes by El Tony Montana brother of the most Mexico's most wanted cartel boss El Mancho. He was actually arrested by the Mexican government.

Right. Which calls for in the streets. Yeah, well, we know who we're on shit down there. It ain't the government. Right. So what's your score on this one? Oh, we're already going to do scores? It's a four on ten. Well, how was the cast?

Um, eh. The cast was good. I liked the little girl. She was spunking. She's been in stuff before, right? Hold on. I got to send the wife a real quick text that we're not quite done recording here because she's calling me. Storm Reed. Yeah, Storm Reed.

She was really good. Yeah, she was a spunky, smart, computer savvy girl. She was, uh, she was in Euphoria. She was in Daes' sister. Ah, I got you. Uh, she was Edress Alba's daughter in the suicide squad. Really? Okay.

What else did she done? She was in 12 years of slave, a wrinkle in time. I didn't think she was old enough to be in 12 years of slave. That was a pretty long time ago, wasn't it? She was the daughter that, what's her name? I can't figure her name. Elizabeth Moss went to go stay with that family and the Invisible Man.

She was the daughter. Okay. So she's got some chops. She's been in some rolls. then. And she's going to be in the nun too. See, I think Nealong is a little soap opera-ish.

Yeah, I agree. You know, not just this, but other roles that I've seen her in lately as well. Like, she has a lot of those Hallmark Christmas-type movies and I don't know, man. She's a little unbelievable. Now, there was the one guy that helped the girl out, the guy that

lived in Columbia, I think his name was Hobby. And he was some nice comic relief to have him in the movie because she would talk to him but like she was trying to hire someone as like a private investigator there to help her

and most of them were charging like 40 or 50 bucks an hour and he was charging $8 an hour so he's going around on his bicycle he's like hold on I've got to go deliver a pizza I'm going to put you on hole I'd be right back that guy was the one helping her he was the bad guy and desperado ah okay

yeah he's been around I've seen him lots of roles before. But he was, he was good, man. He was a nice little comedy distraction, I thought. But, yeah, way too far-fetched for me. How was the pacing of the movie? Was there any lag in the movie, or did the story move along? Not really. I thought it moved along pretty well. Like I said, when we got to that one thing that they expected, well, there's two major things you had to swallow. One alone might not have

kill the movie, but having to believe both things was it like at the end when they start unraveling and oh this is how it really happened. Yeah, very very Rube Goldberg man. That's what kept popping into my mind. Even though it wasn't

like a machine or a contraption type thing, it was like a a Rube Goldberg script is how I would describe it. Kind of like everything had to be exactly this way or it wouldn't have made sense and oh, what do you know?

What a quinky dink. It worked just exactly that way. So bullet drain was a little bit like that. That was sort of part of the plot. But it was a lot of fun. That was fun. This wasn't so much fun. Last question for me is

without spoiling it, was there any connection outside of the alien stuff to the original movie? Well, see, I didn't like that either because they could have easily brought, I was hoping they would bring John Cho in. And he was going to be the same character. But he pops up on the screen and says,

oh, it's happened again. You know what? They didn't even do that, Brian. They used another Asian actor and a Netflix special that the girl was watching, like a true crime thing. And it said, this person is playing the, or this person is the real person,

but this is a role that was played by John Cho in a movie that was called searching. They made it all meta. Come on. Yeah, too, Madda. It would have been funner if some of the same characters had touched base. Or if he'd said, hey, this kind of reminds me of something that happened to me. Let me come in and help. But they didn't go there. Is John Show busy or something?

Probably making Harold and Kumar 12 or something. Who knows? Don't get my hope so. Sold. Yeah, a very 3D Christmas Part 2. Oh, that was amazing when Danny Trail came on the Christmas tree because he was so excited.

It had to be a little tree. I told me he was 5-6 one time. I'm telling you, no fucking chance. I would not fight that, motherfucker. He's the same height as me, but he would kick my ass. There's no fucking way. He is 5-6. I know that's for facts.

They may have used it as that, but it's like when they put football players down and add a couple of them. Oh, you think he's even shorter then? Oh, I think he's way shorter than that. Oh, okay. I don't think there's a chance he's five, six. Oh, all right.

Well, he's a tiny guy, that's for sure, but he's big. Yeah, he's muscular, you know. I think he's borderline little person. You're Danny Trejo. We represent the lollipop killed. The lollipop killed. All right, is that it? Are we ready guys to move on for next week?

Yeah, and Danny, that was Lance imitating you. Oh, yeah. Don't come to find me. Don't come from me or Philip. Next time he's filming in Texas, which he does a lot. He was at Frightmare, I think, last year, so. Oh, I'm fucked. Damn.

I need to see him in person. Because now I'm in the past. That's been bothering the shit out of me for a long time. All right. Well, look, we weren't able to get Alex from binge media this week because he had a, he, just like YouTube motherfuckers, he didn't see the movie. Literally, he know it was. wouldn't have mattered. He could have been on, but

he'll get with us probably in the next month or so, but in the meantime, next week, we are going to be joined by our good friend. He's a show favorite. Sean Henry, every time he comes on, we have a good time. He usually joins us for commentaries, but we're

going to talk some, the better Cronenberg director. Do you would that be? You're going to be beating your these movies. Brandon Cronenberg. All right, well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We appreciate your feedback and ideas.

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