The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #349: Possessor (2020) & Infinity Pool (2023)

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

This week, our friend Sean Henry joins us talk some Cronenberg - no, not THAT Cronenberg! We check out the brand new Infinity Pool as well as 2020's Possessor. Cool of the week includes The Almighty PlayStation 5, Lost, Spider Man: No Way Home, Spider Man: The Game, Blood Relatives, and The Last of Us. Trailers are Blood and The Boogeyman. The podcast spotlight shines on Straight Chilling. And we get feedback from Devy Pulla, Ariel Wellman, Xim Vader, Matt Wood, Gary Marohnic, Franklin Correa, Big Dumb Monsters, David Dein, and Marcus Wilturner. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

Hi, I'm Tom Savini. You might know me as Sex Machine from Dusk Till Dawn, and you're listening, and I don't know why, to the horror returns. Meetings, victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back one at all to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian.

So good we do it twice. Yeah, yeah. Just for luck. Speaking of luck, man, it's our good luck charm tonight. Sean Henry. Hey, what's up? One of our fan favorites every time you come on, dude. We get a lot of good comments.

I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, normally you'll do like a, when you come on, we'll watch a movie together, but this time we're reviewing a few Brandon Cronenberg. I understand maybe you might not have seen. seen one of them. Correct. I was not able to make it to the theater in time, partially because I didn't realize it was

only in theaters. That was my fuck up. We had plenty of that last week. So I wouldn't worry about it. You guys, Brian and Phil, you guys get a chance to check them both out? I barely got a chance to see this one. Yeah, I watched them. I watched a janky copy.

of the new one. But I'll watch it. Ah, okay. Yeah, this was a bad month to try to make to theaters. Right. But next month's going to be

a busy month for for my family. You know, we got the, was knocked the cabin. Yeah. Cocaine pair. Yes, cocaine pair. Knoxville, Tennessee. Oh, yeah.

The whole family's going to watch Ant Man, so. Ah, is that next month? Yeah, I'm going to be busy. Oh, shit. Right around the corner. You know, I'm not like unexcited for that one. That's not a word.

Man, man. Right? Yeah. Like, that's the first Marvel movie that's come out in a while where I'm like, hey, I kind of want to see that. And Steve recommends we go see it green. Okay. Go see it green.

You know what that means, Sean? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. We've got plenty of that around here. They pop up. Like, there's a new dispens. every every other day, huh? Yeah.

I thought it was when you drink so much, you get grain and puke. Oh, that's St. Patrick's Day. All right, Sean. That's next month after February. Sean, you know how we roll, man. You're our guest, so you go first. Cool of the week, brother. What's your coolest thing you've seen or video game you've played or book you've read or whatever?

Definitely. Cool of the week. I was able to finally snag a PS5. That is very cool of the week. Yes, it's been an amazing cool of the week. The controller on the PS5 is so badass. I've got to gush for a sec, the haptic feedback, the vibration that you can feel. But it's got kind of the same configuration, right? Yeah, yeah. And like, so like when you're in a shooter game, you can feel like when you pull the trigger, you know, the feedback on like, the recoil from a gun and stuff. Oh, wow.

It's badass. And my kids went away on a little school trip, and so I've had plenty of time to play on the PS5, specifically Returnal, which is hard as fuck. I don't know if you guys... Yeah, Returnal. Have you guys heard of it? No. Okay, it's a space-based game.

You land on this alien world, and you have to figure out, like, you know, where basically you had to get from point A to B and every time you die, the map basically changes and reconfigures. So like you lose all your shit and then you got to pick everything back up and then yeah, that's just in the first world,

like the first level. And oh my God, it is kicking my ass but it has been a lot of fun. That sounds frustrating as fuck. Yeah, that's crazy. I've never heard of a game like that. I got a customer that, he's late 50s.

They're retired. Their kids just went to college. I don't even think they're actually retired yet, but kids just went off to college, and so they bought a PS5 for themselves to play the show on HBO. Oh, last of us. Last of us.

Yeah. So they're playing that together. They sound super excited about it. I was like, where'd you get a fucking PS5, you bitch shit? Yeah. Lucky. I think I had that same one. I, when I, we were talking to before we started, when I, when I seen the guy at Best Buy,

walking around with a PS5, I was like, where did you get that? You know, we're standing in the store. Yeah, I actually, funny enough, I had a couple of kids, like some teenagers were like, holy shit, there's PS5s in the, you know, in this Walmart. And I was like, yeah, there's like two more in the locked case back there. You know, you got the money. Yeah, it's back there. They're like, holy shit, holy shit.

That's scary, man. It's like walking around with a big duffel bag with a money sign on it. Yes. I was like, I'm glad I carried it. Yeah, I'll just say that. It was like, you know, it was later at night and I was like, am I going to get robbed? Because I got this.

Maybe I'm being paranoid. I'll tell you where I got it. I don't get too close. You were carrying the briefcase from Pulp Fiction. Exactly. Yeah, I'm planning on getting one. I might have to tell the best why I got it. like meet me outside at the truck.

Yeah. Better safe. Sorry, right. Get one of those ones that, uh, hey, it fell off the truck, you know. Right.

But yeah, that's, that would definitely be my, my, my cool of the week. That's a good one. I've had, I've had a lot of meh of the,

of the week, gents. Yeah, we're not, we're not, we're not off to a ripper and start for the year. I thought, I thought,

I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I haven't seen

a whole lot I'm super impressed with. Let me go through a couple of these real quick. Sorry about the demon. Shutter exclusive. If you guys heard of this one? I have not heard of that. I've seen it on there. I just kind of kept scrolling. Kept scrolling. It sounded pretty cool. It's like these people, the family moves into a house and there's a demon in there and the demon possesses their daughter, exorcist style. And the little girl says, you know, the only way to rid of me is to bring in another sacrifice. So they talk this kind of schmucky guy that's

his girlfriend just left him into renting the house. And, I don't know, man. I thought it was a neat idea, but it was very, I mean, I see enough hallmark Christmas movies during Christmas. It tries to be a comedy, Brian, but it's not super funny. It wasn't good.

Yeah. Yeah. Not a great panic. another another another another another not so great uh just finish this one there's something wrong with the children oh um yeah yeah it's the blumhouse right yeah yeah is that another another shutter one i saw it through other means i like it's uh i don't know man it it another one that seemed kind of promising like evil i love evil kid movies but uh they're just wasn't any real wrap-up to it, you know? Like the ending of the movie was

just abrupt. It was pretty horrible. Yeah, very abrupt. That's a good way to put it. And the third one that I saw that was very mad. Brian Buennaz reviewed this one. And I knew better, but I had to see it. What the fuck is this skin on a ring? Come on, help me out here, guys.

Anybody have seen this? I can say it was, I'll try to put this as, as, nice as I can. This was a very artsy arts, I don't know. Sure. Like arty farty kind of. Yeah, like I'm sure. The only thing I can think of is

the fucking elephant show from the 80s, the skinnamarik, Inc, Kink, Skidink, Skynumrike. That's where the name comes from. Is it? Okay. I hope it's something to do with it. Like I, like I had told Lance, I really would like to talk to

the director because I bet you if he explains the movie, we'll all probably be like, oh, okay, that makes sense. But watching it, I was just kind of like, why is this happening? Why are we looking at the corner of the ceiling? Yeah, and all the Legos and I don't know. I mean, there was some cool ideas in there. What, you mean cool ideas like setting a camera on an empty bedroom with a bed and leaving it there for 10 minutes?

The Lego's laid out all over the floor. the whole idea of children waking up and their parents are gone and there's no windows and doors that that would be terrifying as a child but i just like i said in the review if if it were done well yeah like i said in the review i never felt like the children were scared right i don't know if it was the kids the way because they were kids child actors or if it but then again i don't know maybe he told him to play it that way because everybody was kind of it kind of reminded me lancers that one killing of a sacred deer oh sure everybody kind of had this monotone monotone yeah that's right so i don't know i'm not a fan of that director at all shown i think i started it for like 20 minutes

and didn't finish i was like oh no i'm not like i said i i congratulate him on a movie that cost 15 000 to make it made, and plus was bootlegged, it made over a million dollars in the data, so. Holy shit. And counting, right? Got picked up by shutter, so. No publicity is bad publicity. Get your money.

No doubt. No doubt. All right, my cool of the week, Brian, you're going to love this one. I rewatched it and I got a lot more out of it than the first time I saw it. Even had a little tear come to my eye when, when Aunt May died. Oh, one lonely tear?

Yes, one lonely tear. after she made the Uncle Ben's speech and I was like, oh man, that kind of tugged at the heartstrings a little bit. Yes, no way home on second watch. Steve, I'm around. I've come around. Totally redeemed yourself.

That would be my cool of the week. But then again, when you're comparing it to Skinner Rink, it's kind of an easy competition. It's hard for Marvel movies right now because it's like so saturated. It's like they have to be above it beyond for it to think. I'm very hopeful on the future movies because I think they tried this kind of whole phase of grieving and getting over what was in the past. And hopefully we're done with all that.

And we're pushing towards the future. Back to superheroes kicking ass, which is what it was supposed to. Yeah, exactly the action. Even though I think in Ant Man, I think they're going to kill Ant Man. They're going to kill Ant Man. And then when we get Guardians, they're going to kill Tracks and kill Rocket. Oh, no. I agree.

I think so as well. No, come on. Hey, guys. It's old cast and something new. Dave Batista said he's tired of doing the makeup and just that character he wants to move on. And then with just the trailer on. Guardians 3. It does seem like it's going to be very

somber and Yeah, and Drax's he's also said he's not Drax, I'm sorry, Batista. Yeah, he said he he's wanted to do more like kind of serious acting and he's a pretty damn good actor. I would say,

I'm sorry rock fans, but I think Batista is the best wrestler-turned actor. Yes, he was great, great in Glass Onion. Yeah, and he Yeah, he had such a minimal part compared to everybody. Yeah. John Cena, however, is pretty fucking hilarious.

That he is. Yeah, that he is. He's got to fix that bald spot, though. He wrestled a couple weeks ago, and every time he turned around. Yeah. Because he has that movie star, like, combed back. But when he turns around, it's just, it's right there. Oh, shit.

Hard to miss. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go full shave, you know. Yeah. Or he could just play old men, the old strong man. I don't know. There you go.

Stay off my lawn type ship. Yeah. I'll jump in next. I only got two things. All right. I did start lost. Yes. Okay.

Cool. Yeah. I think I'm in. Dude, that first piece is pretty fucking awesome. Yeah, the first couple episodes, I was just like, oh, it's that guy. Oh, it's that guy. Oh, it's her. I know this person.

And then there was a lot of... The wasp was in there, speaking of A-M. Yeah, the wasp. Well, this launched a lot. Hugo? Yeah, Hugo was like... Looking through IMDB, then I had to stop because I kind of want to be surprised

of who pops up or... And then there was just a lot of... What's going on? What's wrong with this guy? And just a lot of questions, but it was peaking my interest. So I'm going to be sticking with Lost. I'm not tapping out.

Nice. Hell yeah. Don't expect the questions to be answered anytime. So just let you know. Go with the flow. Lads, I also have watched a movie on Shutter. And this one is, it's labeled as a comedy horror, but it was more of a dromedy.

And it's called Blood Relative. I've heard of this one. All right. Yeah, it's about this, it's a vampire. He runs and he gets tracked down by his daughter, his 15-year-old daughter. And basically they're trying to,

they go on like kind of a road trip and they're trying to, you know, catch up, you know, he's trying to see if he wants to be a father. And then, you know, she kind of, he kind of lets her know that she does have vampire kind of like abilities, but she's not full vampire.

So it was kind of light on the comedy and more on the whole of them trying to kind of spark up this relationship because he wasn't around and then you kind of find out why he didn't really want a family because he used to have a fan because he doesn't reveal his age,

but he's like super old. He had a family and he ate them all or drank all their blood or what? No, I think they're dead. They had died before. Okay. Is this like that Timothy Chalamee movie, but with vampire? That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah.

I was getting into the description. And it was real interesting with the vampire lore in it because she was born a vampire, but she doesn't have that aging thing with like vampires. Okay. So she will eventually die. Oh, bro. That's an interesting angle. And she has very light sensitivity to sunlight, but she can go out.

in the sun. Okay. And then they brought up the fact of in this version of vampires, the reason why they stay looking so young is because they feed off of people. You can survive off of feeding off of animals, but you'll start

to slowly by time kind of look your age. I like that. Ah, okay. It wasn't a bad movie. It really wasn't. But if you're looking at the comedy aspect of it,

I felt it was really light on that part. Yeah. So. Yeah. Kind of like, sorry about the demon. I expected a lot of, a lot more comedy than there was. And it was just like, you know,

him trying to get his girlfriend back and like fucking baking cakes for her and shit like that. It's like, I got enough of this bullshit during Christmas with the movies the wife made me watch. So I think I'm, I'm done. I think, yeah, that's all I had.

All right. Just lost in one movie this week. Well, I'll, Both pretty much cool of the week for you then? Yeah. All right, cool. Okay.

Well, I'll jump in off of the PS5 thing and say that I've been playing Spider-Man on the PC, which I mentioned last week. Ah, okay. I'm still, I don't play video games, man. They're fucking dangerous. I can't put them down. Like I said, until 4 o'clock in the morning last night playing games. Yeah, they're a dickens. My wife is trying to wake me up at 6 o'clock in the morning.

I'm like, God damn it. Yeah, I know. But yeah, so that's definitely a cool. I watched Echoes on Netflix. Echoes. Yeah, it's with the chick that we have later in the trailer. Moynihan, Monaghan. Oh, Michelle Monaghan.

She has a show. Michelle Monaghan. And she plays like identical twins. It's very lifetime-y. It's a limited series. It's only seven episodes. So, I mean, it's not bad to get through. The acting is pretty good.

But it's a little lifetime-y. Is there a horror element to it, or is it just a drama? No, it's more of like a crime, drama, thriller sort of suspense thing. I've been into that stuff lately, and it was all right. Yeah, I can recommend it. It definitely wasn't my not cool of the week. And of course, the last of us. I watched episode two, probably.

Hell, yes. I'm super stoked about the new episode coming out. Like, I wasn't sure if they had me in the first episode, but the second episode they got me. I'm interested, for sure. The very beginning of it was amazing episode two. Like the explanation of the disease and kind of how it started. That was really cool. All the stuff the Walking Dead never did.

Exactly. Well, and now the monsters are here. and so you see them in this episode and I make really good job of it. Cool. All right. Sounds like some good stuff out there and some typical January stuff out there.

So we'll keep moving on, hopefully to some better stuff as Brian brings us horror headlines. What have we got going on, Brian? Well, we'll segue off of Phillips Cool a week. The Last of Us, surprisingly. Renewed for a second season. Imagine that.

It's a shocker. I think you would have really had to bomb for him to not do that. Yeah. Right? Let's see. Another George R. Martin novel, the sci-fi novel, Hunter's Run is getting an adaption from awake director Mark Rassau. Okay, sure. Anything to keep him from having to write those final three books.

asshole that's a story man god damn movie we were supposed to review was on our schedule last st patrick's day unwelcome oh okay yes I saw some people are watching that

yep it's going to get a theatrical release date on March 10th and a full digital release on March 14th unwelcome with a leprican just in time for this year then, I guess.

Yeah, I, I paired it with the hollow, because it has to do with, uh, what are, what are the little creatures that, like, snatch kids? The fairies. The fairies. No. Right. Um, where they, they, they, they, they take the, the appearance of the child. Ah, I couldn't tell you.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. I couldn't tell you. Yeah. I think that's, that's what unwelcomes about. Sean, any, any ideas, man? No, I know what. I also know what you're talking about, but it's like on the tip of my fucking tongue.

Not Banchees. Not Banches. And replace babies. Yeah. I got to get it up now. Yeah. I'm not bothering the shit out of me. Dopplgangers maybe, or is that?

I mean, so. That's not the word we're looking. Okay. Something Jordan Piel would have said. But it's close. The tavern. exciting stuff we're going to

I'll look it up in a second yeah so so yeah so unwelcome somebody's already got access to it Brian because I've seen

three or four people post in Facebook they've already watched it yeah it could be out there but it also could be people that get early access

to sure and stuff so not we're not that lucky we don't get that sometimes we do

but we we do but not big movies not yet soon hopefully let's see there was a remake of Stephen King's Children of the Corn that was I think it was filmed

like two years ago what I heard about this yeah I heard about it yeah and it's finally been picked up by shutter and this will get a March 3rd theatrical release date and then a March 21st digital release.

Interesting. Who's the cast? Like who's starring in it? Do you know? I'm looking at the picture and it looks like a bunch of people, I don't know. Random fucks. Not all all the kids from stranger things then, huh?

I got to look at the director real quick. He did sound familiar. Is it already in the can? Like they get a... Yeah, they're done film. This count on it. They probably filmed it during COVID.

Children of the masks. Sorry, guys. The three children of corn because they have to stay six important. Great podcasting. It's all good. I think this is the right children

of the corn. Unless there was another one that came out 2000. Oh, shit. Another movie I watched, Brian. I forgot to mention, speaking of COVID, was sick. Oh, how'd you like it?

That was pretty good. That was probably the best of the newer horror movies that I saw. It was kind of an interesting twist. That one guy that keeps popping up in all the movies. Yeah, Mark McMarran or whatever the hell his name is, Mark Mickelson. Phil the kidnapper from Malone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I wanted to watch Retaliators.

I still haven't gotten around to that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, forget about it. Kurt Wimmer is the director of... Okay. He wrote Equilibrium. Okay. And a lot of bad remakes.

Mark Minchaca. Yeah, that's the other guy. Kurt Wimmer wrote the Point Break remake, the Total Call remake. This is going to be fucking terrible then. He did write long. Biting Citizen, though. That was a good one.

Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, maybe we should do this one in congruence with the sharks of the corn. Trying to see if he directed anything. I watched the old point break not too long ago. That movie's fucking awesome. No one's good. The new one's horrible.

Yeah, I haven't even watched the new one. I have no desire. I don't think I've ever seen it. Yeah. I wouldn't waste your time. I bought it for like five bucks, but it's been sitting on my show. sitting on the shelf. It's never been out of it.

Dude, y'all buy some dumb-ass movies, man. I'm sorry. Sometimes, like, one week I could be a completist, and then next week I could see something I don't have, and it was like, I don't need it. I really want this to put on my shelf and never watch ever. That's what a collection is, though. Let's see.

Willem Defoe. He joins the cast of Robert Eggers. Nassfaratu remake. But of course. How could he not be in that? You know? I get a remake Nassphratu, man. Have you guys seen the trailer for that movie

Willem Defoe's in where he's like I don't know if he's like a burglar or something, but he breaks into this house and it locks down on him? Oh, wow. Uh-uh. If I saw Willem Defoe in my house, I would shit in my pants. I see it's the Green Gobber, right? the owners aren't going to be back for like a while. And there's like no water or food in there.

Kind of like home alone in a safe house. Yeah. It looks real interesting because he's trying to figure out how to get out. But like after a while of not having a cooker water and then like the heat builds up in there. Like you can tell he's like to like kind of lose it a little bit. That sounds insane, dude. That sounds pretty good. It's like another COVID movie.

You're locked down. Right. Very true. Kind of cool update for Attack the Block 2. Joe Cornish is teasing an alien slash Terminator 2 approach to the movie. I rewatched Attack the Block last night. What does that mean? Alien slash Terminator 2?

It's just action style? Yeah, because... specific. To me, like, the first alien and Terminator movies were kind of more horror-filled to them. Yeah, I guess that's true. And the second was, like, more action and sci-fi. Yeah. So, I'm cool.

If that's the direction, they're ramping up the action for it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sounds interesting, for sure. Yeah. Although there was plenty of action and attack. the block. That's for sure. Yeah, I don't know when it's going to be

set though, because it can't be set right after the events because those kids are clearly adults now. Oh, yeah. That was at least 10 years ago, wasn't it? Yeah. You've got to have John Boyegg in there.

Oh, he's, I think he's going to be in it, but I think he's also executive producing it. Like, he meets with Joe Cornish all the time. And that kind of like throw ideas back and forth so he he's involved with the making of it definitely so maybe it'll be the next generation like his his kid yeah going off the ending i kind of want to see what happened you know because they arrested him and right was taking him away i wonder

did he have to do time did anybody believe a story or did the government come in and just kind of clean up everything and said there was no no aliens. Probably. Yeah. Nothing happened here, right, Philip? Yeah.

Nothing to hear you. They'll tell you right now, you just won't believe it. Let's see. Barbarian director, Zach Krieger's next weapon, next horror film is titled

Weapons. All right. Hmm. Okay. Weapons. Was Barbarian the first thing that they did? He did?

Yeah. I think so. He did miss March. That's actually a really good. Oh, did he? Yeah, and he did the widest kids you know, to skip college show? Yeah. Double checking here.

I think that's it as far as news. Is that it for the news? Yeah. All right. Sean, you're ready to go down to the trailer park? Yes, sir. All right. Brian's going to bring us.

the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? First one is Blood, which I think this just got released this weekend. Okay. The quick synopsis, Jess, a separated nurse. Sorry, Jess a separated and nurse. Who wrote this on IMDB? Just a separated and nurse.

Okay. I don't know. And young son Owen back into her old farmhouse shortly after settling in. Owen is bitten by a dog resulting in a mysterious infectious infection.

We know what the infection is. A kind of a dog? This stars Phil brought her up Michelle Monaghan and Billy Loomis. I saw him in the trailer for a second. Oh, yeah. I'd be in that.

I don't know who did this write-up on IMDB, because that made no sense. And plus, Michelle Monaghan is like eighth build on the cast. They were clearly high as shit. No kidding, man. Or maybe they wrote it in order of appearance or something, right? Well, this guy, Frederick Allen, is top billed, and he's listed as hospital patient. What? What?

I might want to go back and rewrite that one. Maybe he's getting hurt. I don't even see the kid nowhere. Somebody was trying to get home for dinner at IMDB. Oh, shit. Jesus. Great job. I am DB.

This is directed by Brad Anderson and written by Will Honley. Sure. Okay. I know who that is. Was there a vampire angle? All right, I'll be white. Yeah. Sean, what you think?

I actually did not watch this. So I have to recuse myself. All right, that's fine. Sometimes Lance doesn't watch trailers. Yes, frequently. I was watching as we started recording tonight. But you were asking about the vampire angle. I had the same thing.

That's what it seems like. So do you get like a vampire dog bite? It looks like from the trailer, it seems like the dog went to some kind of tree, and there was something in the tree that bit the dog, and then the dog bit the kid. Ah, okay. Maybe it was a, it was a pet.

What's that little thing called the China wet market, Pelliquin or whatever? Oh, a penguin. No, not a penguin. You know what I'm talking about, the old armadillo looking thing. The one that allegedly started COVID? I've had a little bit of whiskey.

Pengolin, yes. I think this movie's going to be kind of light on the horror, though. I think it's going to go off of the question how far will you go for your child? Because throughout the trailer she's trying, she finds out that the only thing that keeps him alive is blood. And so, you know, she has being an nerve. she has access to blood, but you know, you can only take so much. Right. Which probably is going to lead to the fact that she's probably going to have to start possibly killing people.

Ah, a little bit of a Renfield vibe too then, huh? It looks interesting. It reminds me of it. There was another movie where it was like an older brother and sister, and they had a younger brother. And they, every now and then, like, would kill people to feed their brother. Sounds familiar, but I can't think of what it is. It does sound familiar. I mean, I think they would only, like, kill, like, they only kill, like, bad people or something.

Well, wait, they got that going for him, so that's good. And it was, I can't think of the movie's name. It was more like a drama because it was, like, the brother didn't want to do it no more because he, that was, like, his life. Like, he would go to work, and then him and sister, they would, like, take shifts. And that was, like, their life. And he didn't want to take care of his brother no more. and the brother was like 16 to 17, but he kind of was like, kind of like child acting because he would never. There's so many people yelling at us tonight.

It's like we always forget shit, but like we're getting, we're fucking a bad. Yeah, we are fucking. This is stinker guys. It's like that Drew Barrymore show on Netflix, and I can't remember the name of that one either, but I can't remember the name anything. So. Was it Drew Barrymore that was in the the shark? movie that was so bad, the Reckwinner? Was that...

No, that was... The other blonde from the... Alicia Silverstone. Yeah. Alicia Silverstone, there you go. I'm always getting there for a show on Netflix where she was a zombie and had to eat people and they killed... Oh, the Santa Clarita Diet.

That's a good show. That was amazing. Fucking Netflix shit the bad by... I know, dude. God. It ended way too soon. No, it ended on a total cliffhanger. Yep. A show that I only seen like a couple episodes and thought it was fine, was that Warriors None?

Oh, I guess there's like a big petition for somebody to pick up that show because I guess that was like a fan favorite and Netflix canceled it. Yeah, they love to cancel stuff. They cancel the shit out of everything. HBO does too, man. Yeah, they've been shooting in the bed too, yeah. Netflix thinks everything needs to be the next stranger things or Kobe Kai. Like, if it doesn't do those numbers in the first season, you're done. Yeah.

Well, then quit paying for stupid fucking action movies that suck. Yeah. They got another one coming with the rock. We're going to get everybody who's anybody in Hollywood in this movie and spend a billion dollars on. Billion dollars. In our money. God off, we're going to release it straight to Netflix. What's the Rock movie?

I think it's a Christmas action movie called Red One. What? I don't know if you guys are. He's going to play Santa now. Rock's going to play Santa. Watch, I guarantee you. What's his name? J.K. Simmons?

Yes. You guys ever see those pictures where he's like super like Jack now? He's like ripped? Yes, I have. I think it was for this movie. Ah, okay. He was pretty big in Whiplash. Well, he's bigger now.

Oh, okay. He's like super gross size. J.K. Simmons, get it, old man. What do you know? It's never too late to start hitting the gym, is it? I tell you. All right. Evans in it?

Yeah. Who is it? What did you say, Sean? Oh, that red one. It's got Chris Evans in it. No shit. Yeah. J.K. Simmons.

Jesus Christ. Is that a Netflix movie? Yep. It's another movie they made that they're going to raise our prices. Yeah. Spending our money. And how are they going to put all those people in there? And I guarantee you it's going to suck.

They want to do a damn sequel to, uh, what's the one that's stupid one with the golden egg thing oh come on dude that the rock was in yeah that wonder woman was in that yeah yeah galgadotte you're gonna make another one of those maybe this is the sequel to that one that that one had red in the title

didn't it yeah I think it did what's it called red notice or something like that yeah yeah what I think was it red notice fuck yeah I try to I try to erase that one from my memory because it was so bad it wasn't that bad People don't listen to our show for information.

Well, I tried to watch it like two or three times and just got fucking bored, dude. Well, yeah. That'll happen. Yeah. I just couldn't buy Gal Gadot as like, wasn't she supposed to be like the villain? Yeah. I was like, you're a Wonder Woman.

And you're the, whatever her name was and Fast and Furious that they're bringing her back for the new one. I was like, you fucking died. Well, that's fair. and furious for you, man. I was like, you guys, all the deaths that had like every death that kind of had any emotional impact, they'd just bring the actor back

a couple movies later. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Who am I going to watch it anyways? Yeah. Yeah, same. All right. Blood.

I believe it's on VOD right now. All right. Cool. All right. Check out. Check out. To the list here. Yeah.

And I just thought about that. What if they just go through the whole movie and they just forget about the vampire dog? They might. Probably. All right. As we are recording this show, this trailer dropped today. Thanks, Stephen King. He gave everybody the heads up.

And that is an adaptation of. his you said Lance it's a short story I think so I'm looking it up right now okay 1980 nope that's something else never mind hold on let me keep looking

there's so many things called the boogeyman synopsis is pretty short and sweet it says adaptation of Stephen King's the boogeyman that's the synopsis like he remembers anything he wrote back then the story takes place in the office of Dr. Harper, a psychiatrist

or a man named Lester Billings, talks to the doctor about the murders of three young kids, describing the events of the past several years. Definitely one I need to reread, because I don't remember any of that. Oh, this is directed by Rob Savage. He

did host and Dashcam. Oh, nice. Hmm, okay. So maybe the movie will be longer than an hour. Maybe the chick from Dascamp will show up. Who is in this cast? Chris Mancina,

Mess Macinia. He looks familiar. Okay. Probably just mispronounce the name. It's not Carlos Monscia. Yeah, that's my first one. Sophie Thatcher, I know her. She was on that show, Yellow Jackets. Yep.

Okay. And this guy, I can never pronounce his last name, David Dalsmichin Pocodat Man from Suicide Squad. Oh, that guy. Cool, kooky-looking guy. Yeah. Weird-looking dude.

Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. And those are the only ones that I recognize. Sean, did you get a chance to see this one? I actually didn't get a link for any of the trailer, so. Oh, that's my bad. That's right. Because you're not in the messenger group.

Damn it. Okay, that's on me, Brian. The trailer is... Go ahead. I'm sorry. I was going to say I can pull it up real quick and watch it while... Okay. As well. My thoughts real quick. Trail is pretty basic.

You know, monster in the closet, maybe under the bed, you know, going after children. The thing that really piqued my interest is this is made by the studio that's been making prey. The Hellraiser reboot. dropping them on Hulu. This was going to go Hulu, but I guess they did like one of those test screenings. And they were like, no, this needs to go theatrical now. Oh, that's...

And it looks like a good horror movie to take the kids, too. Like, it looks like it'll be scary enough, or not scary enough that you can't take your kids, but... Kind of an injury, kind of like Kramas. There you go. I can still bitch about that. Oh, they didn't like Grandpa's? No, they love Grandpa's.

It just was scary. Was it? Yeah, you don't want them to have nightmares, sure. Yeah, yeah. They kind of got freaked out by that one, huh? Yes, yes. All right, I think I just sent you the link to the Boogie Man if you want to check it out. I just got that.

Let me watch it real quick. All right. Would you take a glance? I think I need to watch it again here, too. Yeah. I think it looked... It's hard to tell what's going on, frankly. Yeah, it looks a lot like a generic monster in the dark kind of movies, like the darkness.

And I don't know, there's 50... Don't say that. No, not. No, no. I don't know. There's like 10 other movies that are named really close to that, not the darkness. Yes. You know, ghost movies where there's some shit that lives in the dark.

And they can't see. it. Yep, that's what it looks like. I can't see it. I'll tell you, I'll tell you this. It certainly doesn't look like what Brian described the story. Sean, was that you that described the story? Yeah.

That'd look like that at all. That's for sure. No, no. Thank you fucking Wikipedia. It's not a long trailer, though. No. They don't really show you much. Yeah.

But with the Stephen King twist, I'm almost actually excited about it. It looks like maybe it's going to be something. more than just generic monster in the dark horror movie thing. So, I mean, hopefully that's... Especially if they, you know, we're going to do VOD and then now they're going to release it theatrical. That's a good sign. Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good sign

because realistically, they've been crushing it with the 20th, what is it, 20th century studios releasing stuff on Hulu. They've been crushing it. So for them there's like, no, just needs to go to theaters. I'm really surprised Prey wasn't in the theaters. Oh, yeah.

Well, it needs to get a theater release. Yeah, they've got to find a way to get that one out in the theaters this year. I think based on the trailer, I think it looks like it could be really good. It does, it's not necessarily that it stands out with anything distinct, but it does look like ominous. And it does have a great atmosphere to it, at least in the trailer. So I'm excited to to watch it. Yeah, and plus it's the boogeyman. Everybody has done heard of the boogey man.

Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. Once it's not the bye-bye man. Yeah, exactly. I honestly, I would watch another movie based on that. Because there's so much they introduced in that movie that just made no sense. I was like, what is the coin? What is the dog with him?

What does this mean? It was a stupid name for a movie, though. Yeah, it was. They could have said the Pee Poo Poo Poo Man, you know. The bye bye man. The bye bye man. And they said it so many times in the movie. Right.

Thank you. How do you do that? Well, maybe the coin was a tie-in to Lepricon. And if they do the, ever do the sequel, it'll be Bye-Bo Man meets Lepricon. We know who's winning. That was Lepercon's coin. He's going to get it out of the By-bye-Ban. We know who's winning.

I mean, leprechaun's been to the hood and he's been to space. That's true. And he's still here. He's still around. A friend with weed is a friend indeed. Oh, God. And he had a magic piccolo. That sucks.

Awful movie. The boogie man. All right. The boogey man is coming to theaters June 2nd. And if there's nothing else. slated for that week we might put it on the schedule because I believe they tried to make this adaption like 40 years ago. Oh, wow.

I think I've seen it, but I don't remember. I might have watched it when I was a kid and just... Yeah, just for God. It's familiar. When if they tried to make it in the 80s, I mean, Stephen King probably fucking snorted a rail and was like, yeah, man, we should have fucking crazy alive trucks in there too. Somebody needs to make that movie. Oh, God.

The disaster artist, the making of maximum overdrive? Yes. Oh, gosh. Make that movie. Please make that. That sounds amazing. Who would play Stephen King? Nobody had to be talking about it. because they don't remember it. All right, Lance. All right, Phil.

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That sounds familiar. Yeah, I have to check that now. Mine is a different part because we suck at that. Finally found the name of the creatures that take children and take their parents' changelings. There it is. Ah, there you got it. You got it. All right, we can move on now.

Thank you. Regarding Possessor, Devi Pula says, I really liked this one. Area Wellman says, I met Sean Bean on set in the summer and talked to him about this movie a bit. Zim Bader says, garbage. Matt Wood says, explain your thoughts. Zim says, I could see that the film was trying to be clever, but it really just bored me. Then it felt like they went for an over-the-top, gory ending to try to mask the fact that the rest of the film did nothing. I was really looking forward to this one, so I felt actually.

extra disappointed that I didn't like it. We'll give it another try at some stage. Matt says, I hear what you're saying, dude. Hey, look at that. We're getting along. Gary, Gary Moronic. Is that? Okay.

Says I don't. Now we're not getting along. Oh, it's straight chilling. Their newest episode has a review of Skinnamarink. I'm downloading it right now. Oh, there you go. Let's see what they had to say about it. See, this back and forth right here.

the back and forth if I like. Yeah. Right. People did not disagree with a movie, but they did not call each other names and insult each other. True. True. That's the way it should be. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, it's

just a movie. Now we don't always agree here. Yep. Even on Skittamoreen. And being on Skinnamarine, maybe. I don't know I haven't seen it. Regarding Red Eye, Franklin Correus as a great thriller. It is.

It is. I hadn't watched it in a while. New 4K dropping soon. Yeah. Ah, sweet. Big Dumb Monsters Podcast said thanks for sharing. Anytime. Regarding the upcoming float,

Zim Vader says I can already tell what this film needs is Alicia Silverstone. Oh, my God. I will talk about this movie next week. Yes, put Alicia Silverstone in there. Brian created a poll It says Will Brandon Kronenberg Surpass his father?

So far the majority says no Zem added only if he remarks Only if he remakes the fly And it's an 11 out of 10 masterpiece Yep, no way to do that It's a coincidence that Lance gets up at this question right here Because he's such a Brandon Kronenberg's better than his father cheerleader

Yeah, that is true. I'm not sure I'm there. I don't think I'm necessarily there either. Third best Jason number two is Derek Mears. Number one is Kane Hodder, says David. Holy shit. Is Lance shooting somebody in the background? He's finally back.

Hey, Lance. Did you burger somebody? What happened? Oh, no, I just had to get a. another beer. No, on the poll, nobody agrees with you that Brandon Cronenberg is better than his father. Oh, well, that doesn't surprise me too much. Well, not nobody.

The poll was that no. Matt Wood says, who the fuck is Matt Smith, Lance? You forgot what you already? I didn't even catch that. No, I didn't. I didn't either. None of you all pulled me. pull my ass out of the fire on that one.

Shit. I'm terrible with names. Like, if I name you, like, ex-girlfriends, I couldn't do it right now. In my defense, Matt, I had been watching about three episodes of House of the Dragon in a row and Matt Smith's character is easily

my favorite character in the show. Maybe you said Matt Smith. I was thinking about Doctor Who when you were just like... Sure. ...randively bringing up Doctor Who or something. for all we know, Matt may be one of the doctors, you know. Everybody else has been that's British.

That's why he's so mad, dude. You ruined his actual name. Right. They haven't announced it yet, Lance, for the new season. Ah, okay. Well, we'll see who it's going to be. Well, you out at him already. Oh, okay.

I thought maybe you were going to say maybe Dane DeHan would be the next doctor who. Oh, my God. What are you, Texas sleep in the phone booth or whatever? That's a phone booth, right? Yeah. Well, it looks like the phone booths. From the outside, sure.

What is it? A Tartis is the action. I've never actually watched the show. I've never seen an episode. I've seen a few. I've seen a few. I've seen a couple, yeah. But oddly enough, if you bring up, like, one of the actors that play Doctor Who,

like, I know who you're talking about. Mm-hmm. anyway Matt Wood our fan hopefully still oh he's gonna be on the show next week

so there you go not bad dude you better hold Matt Wood coming not Matt Smith not Matt's oh that that would be great

if they both showed up what if he brought Matt Smith with him how fucking awesome would that be all right well now you're outgated uh regarding upcoming

Zach Kregor film weapons Marcus Will Turner says, absolutely. Barbarian was one of the best horror films of 2022 or ever. Craigor deserves a picture deal. I'm not mad at that. It was no the thing, was it, Brian? Nothing's up there.

That is so dumb. It was not Jaws. That's for sure. It was pretty awesome, though. Or The Exorcist, although I'm very worried about this new Exorcist, considering how much they shit the bed on the final Halloween movie. Sean, what did you think about the final fucking new Halloween movie? It was garbage.

It was dog shit lit on fire. Oh, and just, I hated it so fucking much. The kid, you know, receiving the fucking powers of Michael Myers, the limited amount of Michael Myers. He didn't get that much powers from Michael. Michael took them out pretty quickly. Yeah. it was like

for it to be a trilogy and it to be the third one it was so disconnected and just That's a good way to put it Just shit I can't phrase it any other way Other than shit

I felt like they I felt like they Didn't release it in order Like That movie should have been The middle movie I think so too That would make more sense

If it was the middle And then but it was I will not watch that movie my favorite part was the bully band nerds oh god oh god I'm not worried about the exorcist

because it's not it is a sequel to the original but that's only the fact from what I'm reading the story is he go the father of the daughter that's being possessed. He goes to Reagan's mother for help. Ah, okay. So it's

not like there, it's a whole news story, so. Understood. Okay. You guys were talking about the Halloween movies feeling like they were disjointed and like out of order. Have you guys heard of this show on Netflix called Collidescope?

Oh, where you watch the episodes any way you want and you get Yeah, isn't that weird? Yeah, I clicked on it. I haven't watched it. I think they already canceled that. Oh, well, I guess that experiment didn't work. Well, they've tried to do a couple of interactive things. They had that black mirror thing, the Vander Snatch.

That was kind of fun. Yeah, I liked it a lot. And then they had some sort of trivia thing, but it was like bar trivia. I don't understand. Like pop-up video type thing, or? Yeah, but it didn't even have any videos. was it would just ask you a question. I'd answer the question.

Didn't they have an interactive thing with that guy that bear grills or whatever? Did they have an interact? I think they did. I wouldn't surprise me. That might be interesting, actually. Yeah. But Bander Snatch is definitely the best one of those things that they've done. Maybe that's not, you know, that sort of seems like, you know, the 3D movie that was real big there for a minute.

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This week, we're going to check out the brand new Infinity Pool as well as 2020's Possessor. Brandon Cronenberg. Lance's God. Oh, come on. That's pushing it a little farther. That would be Dane to Hunt. Oh, okay. He's not limit yet.

Or Keith, David, not David Keith. We'll start with Possessor. An agent works for a secretive organization that uses brain implant technology to inhabit other people's bodies, ultimately driving them to commit assassinations for high-paying clients. She's an assassin that uses other people's bodies. Yeah, she's not driving them to commit. Yeah, it was a weird description. She's doing it through their body. It's what the CIA will be doing in 10 years.

with the help of what's his name that keeps fucking up Twitter changing the rules and regulations like a week I don't know man he's letting out some truth though

the government's already fucking involved in it yeah it's just it's just with the platform like I only use it for the show really yeah and then like one week

he was like well if you got if you got something you're promoting on Facebook we'll delete your Twitter oh I Gotcha. Okay.

But then like three days later, he's like, you know what? Go ahead. Working out the kinks. Right. Anyway, the director and writer is Brandon Kronerberg, also known for antiviral. And some, a few other things. What was antiviral? The zombie one?

No. No, that was the one where people were buying viruses of famous, rich and famous people to inject into their bodies. So they'd have the same, they'd have the same illness. is the super rich. Was Pattinson in that one? Yeah. I know the guy that played Banshee and the X-Men movies was in it.

The really weird-looking guy that was in Get Out. Yeah. The ginger-haired. Can't think of his name. People are killing us tonight. Telling you, we need shirts that say you don't come here for information. Right. I think we can probably...

Hey, listen, for me, guys, this is just... A reason to get drunk and hang out with my buddies and talk about horror movies. It's fun. That's fair. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Hey, they say your brain can only take in so much information. Occasionally, it's got to push some old stuff out for some new stuff.

An old thing that I remember from that is an episode of... You forgot already. I'm thinking of, by the way, Casey. I'm married with children. Okay. He was on a game show and Kelly told him something, oh, maybe it was the Simpsons. Somebody was on a game show. I think he was family guys.

Oh, no, it was in living color. And somebody told him a fact that pushed that thing out of it. I really think it was. Somebody told him a fact at the very end of the moment that pushed that last little fact out of his brain because he only had enough information. And he lost, right? he locked at the very end. It was definitely paired with children.

That's a Bundyman Big time. Caleb Landry Jones is the actor that was in Ansela. That's his name. Anyway,

most of the special effects in the film were done practically with an effort to use as little VFX work as possible. The hallucination scenes effects

were in particular done within camera. I could see that. Okay. there are two versions of the script for possessor Cronenberg said that there has there is possibly there's a possibility of a second movie down the line

one that would encompass the material but didn't make it to this film interesting I feel like maybe if it had gotten more buzz or had been more popular well I know there's two versions of the film they put out there was Possessor and Possessor uncut Okay

Oh yeah okay If you want to see Dick, then watch Possessor. They take all that out and possessing on cut, which was weird. I know. Right. That is very odd. You'd think you'd be the other way around, right? Yeah.

Well, I guess they had to make, they put more gore. I think Possessoron cuts the margin widely seen. The goreier one, but with less dick. It's the one on Hulu. No. Sean, what did you think about Possessor? I had never actually heard of this until, you know, we were slated to record and I watched it today. I didn't get the chance.

I'll go ahead and say to watch Infinity Pool just because I didn't realize it was in theaters and otherwise I wouldn't make time. Yeah, but this is a very interesting. Possessor is a very interesting movie. It's very trippy. and I it had good special effects but the story was confusing as fuck I

my wife and I both watched it and she was like am I having a like a stroke or is this movie just difficult to follow and I'm like yeah no it's it's incredibly difficult to follow and

so I'm not going to say that it's terrible just because of that but it's just I don't know how I think I need to rewatch it you know a second viewing to see kind of how I feel about it. So those are kind of my initial thoughts and there was a lot of nudity in this a lot more than I was expecting. Otherwise I wouldn't have had it on with my like I just got my kids home from the field trip. I didn't realize you know there was going to be. I had to turn it off multiple times. In SFW. Yeah, I was like, oh shit. That's kind of my initial thoughts.

Where's a fucking remote? Mute. Great special effects. It is very trippy. But I mean, the idea of it is cool. I just don't know if the execution was the best. Fair enough. What did you think about the leather face effects when he had her face and he's putting it up, putting it over his?

That was pretty cool. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Definitely practical, right? Yeah, absolutely. And, yeah, when they, like, recreated the body, like, you know, it was in reverse. Sure, sure. Like making a wax candle or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

I just, like I said, I kind of had trouble. Following the story, you know, on this, what are you guys kind of thinking? And did you also have trouble or is it just main? Lance, jump on it. Man, I love this movie. I think that the main thing that, or at least my main takeaway from this movie, was how if you do get to where, you know, this particular technology is available, and you can, like, literally go inside someone else's brain and actually, you know, function within that.

body. Why, Elon wants to put the chip in our head. It's coming. It's coming. But I can definitely see it more like the board. Because not to cut you off, Lance, because you got to look deeper into this movie. Like, the person they were actually taken out. It wasn't just a hit.

It had to do with, like, corporate stuff and stocks. And, you know. Oh, absolutely. I can see Elon. Someone calling up Elon. He's like, you got someone with a chip in his head? He was like, uh-huh.

Yep, I got one ready right now. Kind of, and kind of almost like a succession thing, right? You know, where everybody's fighting for the old man to die off, so everybody can get the money, right? Um,

but what I, my main takeaway from this movie was the fact that, uh, it was obvious because they, everybody kept referring to her as a pro. And in fact, um, her,

one of her handlers at one time said, wow, I'm, I'm so honored to meet you. You know, you're legendary. You've been doing this for, years. You know, you're a master at this. And it's just amazing the way that she would kind of like

literally lose herself. And I think it all started with when she was that first character and she had the gun, but she couldn't bring herself to blow her own brains out because she couldn't separate her mind from being in that physical body. And I think that's where you run into the trouble with this type of technology. And I would think if you could do this, you could only do it a few times before you would just go absolutely mad. I have a different theory on that. Well, yeah, I definitely like to hear that. I like the way they ended the movie.

A lot of people didn't care for the ending. I think Zim said it was just gore for the sake of gore. But the fact that she thought she was killing her own child, but in reality it was Jennifer Jason Lee's character had to go in there and literally retrieve her out of the program because she wouldn't leave. I don't know. And also, I will say this, and this is going to play into the next movie as well, but Brandon Cronenberg, I don't know if he's a woman hater, per se, but he definitely, he has a lot of emasculated men. It's in his movies, because this poor guy, man, it's like he married into this family, and he couldn't, you know, all of a sudden he couldn't make any of his own decisions.

And she was, that's tough for us as guys, right? We're used to be in the breadwinner and we're used to be in the man, right? And, you know, we'll see that a whole lot more in the next movie. But that does seem like that's going to be a theme that we're going to see from Brandon over and over again because it was quite obvious here. But I thought all of the acting was well done. Mandy did a great job. She was trippy as Mandy is always trippy. And I thought that the guy who played the, you know, the small type.

cocaine dealer that married the rich chick that she inhabited to kill off the father's succession style and and how ironic is this of all the characters that don't die it's Sean Bean for the first time ever in a Sean Bean is it isn't the one who dies that is crazy how do you not die from that he should have no kidding blunt trauma to the head I mean just okay guys so this is the not too distant future, right? So maybe medicine is that much better by then, Brian? Who knows? Those are my theories on the film.

What do you guys think? In an alternate 2008. All right. So we're in the spider verse. Okay, gotcha. My theory, okay. Her not wanting to come out the body, I took it as

she didn't want to go back to the life that she was living. That bland, family life, just ordinary everyday, everyday, whatever. I think she loved because there was a scene where her Jennifer Jason Lee's character

is asking her, it was like, why didn't you just shoot them? Why did you pick up a steak knife and stab them? And she was like, that was more efficient. And she was like, you know, what do you mean efficient?

You know? It's not efficient. You know, you just shoot them. Bam, you're done. You know, just stab them all. It's a lot more personal, right? That's why slasher's always like to kill with knives, because it's like almost penetrating them, raping them.

I think she... Power. She loved the power. She loved to kill. It excited her. It gave her a rush. And just the thought of leaving this world and going back to her life where she had... There was a scene where she had to rehearse what she's going to say to her.

to her family. Right, right. She does not know how to be with them no more because she's so in tune with this other world and I think that's where she wanted to be. And then the ending, I think she knew she had to kill her kid or that was her kid.

I think she wanted to eliminate that last thing that was kind of holding her back. Herding her back and Jennifer Jason Lee's character knew that was holding her back. That's why she chose the son to the son's body to come in

to bring her out. That is crazy. Yes, good theories, man. That's cool how we both saw the same movie, but we saw it completely differently, you know? And I thought, I thought everybody was good. We keep calling her Mandy. I think her name is how do you say, Andrea

Riceboro? Hey, she's up, she's up for an Oscar this year. What was she in? Best actress. What was she not going to tell me? I can't think of the name of the movie. Isn't it called just like Leslie or Lenny or something like that? I think it's like a really simple name. You know me.

I think it's on Netflix. More people screaming at us. I'll look it up. We need to see. The guy that played the guy you were talking about Christopher Abbott. I thought he was pretty good. I loved when we got to the part where. they were

he his consciousness was actually waking up and he was trying to figure out what's going on here and he would see she would see her in the mirror and it was a lot of cool visuals of them you know coming apart yeah and that fight

that fight for dominance too right yeah so the movie is called two Leslie two Leslie never be either yeah I think it's a pretty pretty sure it's on Netflix. I clicked it up, but I believe it's on Netflix.

If not, I'm pretty sure it's out there. And, you know, thinking about it, the movie could almost be a representation of, like, you know, multiple personality disorder, which is, you know, controversial within the mineral health world. But, you know, where there's a fighting for personality, you know, which one's going to be the dominant, the submissive and control. What if this is already happening? And that's why most personalities are. there. Yeah, that's a good point. Hey, if anybody was going to be in control of our fucking crazy computer future where this is

going to happen, I'd rather be on than anybody else at this moment. Ah, well, he may be there to be. There's just a lot of scenes in this movie where you can tell which side of that personality she wanted, even when she was in the guy's body, the sex scene with the wife. Yeah. Yes. Because you look at when she had sex with her husband in the beginning, she had no expression, no emotion. Oh, yeah.

No, she was dead. Yeah, absolutely. But then when she's having sex with the guy's wife and the wife starts, like, choking him, you could tell, like, she's getting excited. Yeah, I guess she kind of liked having that dick. So, I mean, that's how I took this movie is she. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, you've got me thinking, man. Every chance she had to go into somebody's body to do one of these hits, that's who she wanted to be.

That's the light she wanted. So she got addicted to it, basically. Yeah. She hated her own reality. Very nice. No matter what reality was, it was better than her, you know, one back home, so to speak. And did you guys notice how big her company is? Uh-huh.

The little toy robot the kid was playing with that had the company. company's logo on it. Okay. So they also make toys. Oh. Holy shit. This might tie in with Megan down the road. Same company.

There it is. All right. So in general, you liked it. It sounds like. Yeah. It was my top. I think, Lance, it was like my top five that year, I think. Sounds about right.

I think it was in my top ten. So we both enjoyed it. Yeah, definitely in my top ten. And I feel like I really enjoyed this the first time that I watched it. But we're going to call this one a good news sandwich because this time not so much, man. The first hour or so of this fucking movie was so boring. It's like, oh my God, are we going to fucking get somewhere? So it's, I mean, the effects were great.

Um, my wife said the same thing. She was like, this boy. I'm so bored. Right. Yeah. Like the, I think, I think that the, the, the story was there. And it was just not quite put together right, right? It's like a puzzle you sort of have to put together on your own.

Mm-hmm. And, uh, that's not what I was looking for in the moment. Maybe I was just in the wrong attitude for this movie. But I was bored out of my fucking mind. I was like, I was like, I don't want to watch this again. like a chore. Even when Sean Bean got attacked? Yeah. Well, no, I remember really enjoying it when I watched it the first time, but trying to watch it again for this one, I was like, oh, when is this going to be over? That's not a good sign. Watching the clock, hoping for a game.

Not a good sign. Yeah. So, I don't know if it has rewatchability to it. Unless you're trying to find some more stuff and you're really interested in this particular situation. which wasn't, so. Okay, fair enough. All right. Let's do scores.

Sean? I really need to, like I said, rewatch it for a second time to kind of get a true assessment, an accurate assessment of the movie. But I don't hate it. And the more we talk about it, I think it's going to bring up my original score. So I was going to say like a five. You know, I'd have five out of... Yeah, half good, half bad. Sure.

Yeah. So I think I would bring it up, you know, with everything that we've discussed and say, you know, a 7, 7.5. Wow. Oh, wow. Yeah. Just because there's more to think about in regards to it. And I want to watch it again just to see if, you know, if that makes it any better. Or if I'm still like, oh, my God, I'm bored out of my fucking mind.

And this is still... Yeah. Lance what do you think I'll go I'll go eight on this one this was a good one this was better than 70% of Richard Cronenberg's movies this feels like a Lance movie

Brian Brandon Cronenberg Hallow be thy name huh Lance yeah oddly enough I agree with Lance This is an 8 out of 10.

I like the special effects. I got more out of this rewatch than I did the first time I watched it, especially a lot of the stuff with our main character. And then I thought they were bringing up a lot of stuff that is probably happening right now. I didn't even bring up the job the guy had is they watch our webcam feed to see what we have in our surroundings. So you know how when you're, like looking up stuff or you're on Facebook and a little ad for something for a website you were just on pops up. It's probably because they're watching everything we're doing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Except instead of hiring an actual person, they just get a computer to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that scene was pretty crazy right there.

You know, like you said, Lance, somebody, people having sex pops up and he's supposed to be like talking about what kind of curtains they have. Yeah. That's probably going on. right? It's just bots watching it, not humans. Or maybe it is humans watching it. And why did I call his dad, Richard Cronenberg and not David Cronenberg, by the way? There I go again.

It is going on because there was one of the robots, the vacuuming robots. You know, I can't think of the fucking name of them. Oh yeah, the little round things. Yeah, so they have cameras on them and they're actually, they pulled, there was a scandal

recently, it was in the news that there was some footage of like, you know, they'll pull data from those cameras and just to kind of enhance, to be able to enhance the software, they'll send that the video that they capture and they farm it out to like, you know, India or wherever. Oh, God. They'll have someone so that they can do better voice recognition and to kind of help the machine to learn more. And anyway, the robots, they basically capture people like either having sex or like in the bathroom. And, you know, real people had, you know, actually watched this footage and that that was actually shared. Yeah, like this woman that went to the bathroom and the fucking, yeah. So it's already happened. Oh, it's, yeah.

We may be closer than we think to this technology. Snowden. They can pull up your fucking phone. camera to any time they want to. That is true. Scary stuff, man. Well, all that being said, yeah, easy ad at 10. And Sean Bean doesn't die.

Yeah, for once. There's that. Man, I'm going to be a little man on the total poll here. I'm going to give it a five and a half. Okay. I can't remember. Still more good than bad. Yeah, I don't know.

I guess we haven't really reviewed this film before, but I probably would have given it a higher score the first time in that I watched it. It was just the second time. It just felt like a chore, man. It was like long and slow and boring. And maybe it just wasn't what I was in the mood for. But boy, it took forever to get there.

That happens. You know, like sometimes you're driving. It's just chill, whatever. And then sometimes somebody hits the brakes in the middle of the road. And you're like, what in the fuck are you doing? I'm going to yank you out of your car. I'll tell you what. I have the perfect medication for you.

Go watch Skinnamarink. And then rewatch this when you tell you this one. Well, there's that. Well, don't watch it on your computer because you'll punch your computer. Oh, God. All right. So, all right, mixed reviews for Possessor. Let's see what we thought about, Infinity Pool.

James and M. Foster are enjoying an all-inclusive beach vacation in the fictional island of La Tocca. When a fatal accident exposes the resort's perverse subculture of hedonism, hedonistic tourism, reckless violence, and surreal horrors. Director and writer is, again, Brandon Cronenberg. It's rumored that Robert Pattinson was offered to Lee Roll but passed. That's interesting. Yeah. Originally rated NC17 for some graphic violence and sexual content, but was re-edited to an R rating on an appeal. I'll probably put it on the Blu-ray.

I'm surprised there even is an NC-17 rating. I know. That's fucking stupid. I mean, they got relatively graphic. I mean, really, NC-17 and you're cutting it down to R. Who are you trying to get in there? The adults? Yeah, exactly.

What adult couldn't get into the NC-17 one? Makes no sense, does it? No, it does it? doesn't, especially in today's world. It's like just, you know, rated NC17. I mean, fuck. Maybe it's a movie theater thing. Yeah.

Maybe they won't show NC17. And then like going into an NC17 movie sort of feels like pee-wee going into the theater. With a trench coat. And a popcorn thing with a hole in the bottom. A little bit of social stigma or something, I guess. Yeah. I mean.

All right. Sean, you said you missed this one. Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, no worries, dude.

Too bad, man. Well, you'll get a chance, I'm sure. Actually, let's maybe sandwich it again. Brian, what did you think about this one?

Because you watched a shitty copy, too. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I thought the acting was good. I thought Mia Gough knocked it out to park again.

is such a ball of fucking weirdness and craziness. Yeah. For her not to be up for an Oscar this year, it's the same thing as Tony Colette not being up for hereditary. I got to say it's a fucking sin. This is the hottest she's ever been, though. You think so? I think so.

Well, you got to see a lot of her. This is the most lacking vibe. Yeah, ever since my wife pointed that out when we've seen X-E. So every time I was like, you got eyebrows this movie? He was like, nope. It's weird. I thought Alexander Scarsgaard, I thought this was a different role for him. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. He definitely, I hated him when I first got introduced to him. And then after a while, I kind of hated him some more. Then after a while after that, I kind of felt sorry for him. Uh-huh. But then he started doing stupid. shit and then I was like I fucking hate your character. But I thought that was all to the testament of how he played his character.

Fair enough. I don't think I've ever seen him play this kind of character before. Yeah. And what is the actress that played his wife? Cleopatra Coleman, she was definitely gorgeous. No doubt. But was not really in the movie. Yeah.

I thought all the other supporting actress, actors and actresses. I thought they did fine for what they needed to do. But the main part was, I thought this was a crazy idea for a story to go to this island. And I don't know how much I can say right now. Sure. That would be spoilers. So we'll just wait for that. But just the turn of events is not what I thought the movie was going to be from the trailer. I don't think anybody could possibly imagine the movie might be if they haven't seen it. It doesn't make any sense. enough. Fair enough. You just kind of go on a wild ride throughout the movie after you find out what the purpose of, I can say clones because they say it in the trailer.

And after you get that part and figure out why it's happening, you go on this wild ride. And like I said, it's all carried by me of God's performance in this. She is just fucking wacky and crazy. and even though I have a problem with the eyebrows, she is oddly sexy. She's tearing it up. She's tearing it up out there right now. There's a lot of psychedelic moments in this movie. If anybody hasn't seen the movie and they have a problem with

flogging strobe lights and stuff like that, there's a lot of that in this movie. The practicals again, when there are practicals done, Brandon Cronenberg, I will give him his credit. he does handle his practical is really good but lance i i still can't say he's better than his father because i feel like well there's a lot of what his father does in his work it's just a modern take of what his father did understandable so understandable but with that being said i thought this movie was a creative interesting well-acted and i kind of see similarities to possess her with some of the characters in this.

That's a good point. And pass it off to Lance. Yeah. So it's very ironic. The same exact week that I saw this movie, I also saw a film called Triangle of Sadness. Have you ever heard of this one? Is it an Oscar movie?

It actually is. It actually is. It's for best picture, and I think it's also nominated for best screenplay. There's only one best picture, and that's everything everywhere all at once. I couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree.

Or Top Gun. Although I do think that the Banshees in Isheran might win best director, but we'll see how that goes down. I don't see that. That's on HBO Max now. It is. It is. So Triangle of Sadness, what happens is basically

Woody Harrelson is the only person you would have recognized in it because I think it's mostly a Norwegian film. But without giving too much away on it, you know, to spoil that movie, basically you've got a luxury. yacht, like a $2.5 million yacht that people are out, you know, riding around on. So you've got the class, it's a class struggle type thing, right? So you've got the people that are on the yacht on the first level and then the level under that, you've got the servers, the people who make tips and get to kind of hang out with them and serve them their

food. And then underneath that, you've got like the engineers, the people who have to keep the ship running, the people who have to, you know, keep the fuel going and all that. And then on the very bottom level, you've got the cleaners, you know, people that have to go through and clean up after everybody else. So anyway, Somalia pirates take over the ship. The ship ends up, you know, people end up floating out on little life rafts on an island. And the entire thing, it all shifts. Because now all of a sudden the people that are the masters and in charge are the ones who have actual life skills because they've had to be forced to develop them because they didn't have everything. handed to him on a silver platter.

So I saw a lot of that in this film where basically if you've got the money, you can get away with pretty much anything. And it was really interesting the way that they did. You were talking about the psychedelic special effects. Brian, to me, that was really retro. I thought that that one scene where, you know, the guy was becoming the clone without giving too much away, geez, how do I not give too much away? It kind of reminded me like in 1960s, like that show The Prisoner,

that we did the retrospective. I got a lot of the prisoner out of it. I got a lot of, you know, like old 60s and 70s psychedelia type stuff. And then when you get to the question later about who really is the person and doesn't even matter, I really like that concept. Not to go too much into that yet. But yeah, I enjoyed it. And yeah, everything Brian said was right.

Scarsguard always plays. Shit, he played the Darkman. the Stephen King miniseries for the stand. This guy is like super confident. He's not usually completely, I'll use the word again, emasculated. I mean, he just got done playing the Northman. Yeah, no shit.

I mean, this guy's like alpha, alpha to the extreme, but not in this role, which was very interesting. And yeah, some of the twist and turns that this movie took I wasn't expecting. one scene in particular we'll get into spoilers when we talk about that I enjoyed it quite a bit did I enjoy it quite as much as

Possessor maybe maybe not quite as much but I'm still on the the Brandon Cronenberg bandwagon at this point Oh we know you are I actually enjoyed this quite a bit more than Possessor I think Oh cool yeah I mean it's definitely

He's just a unique person, man, he comes up with some crazy fucking ideas. And for him to write and direct these movies, I mean, I got to give him some props on that. Is he as good as his father yet? No. But maybe eventually.

I think he's on the right path. This was still a very art house, you know, psychedelic take on everything. And, but I think that what he had to say in the background and

And even the things that happened, it was so unique and different that I really enjoyed it for that. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. This technology, do you guys think it was more far-fetched than Possessor? Or do you think? Yeah. Yeah, it seemed like they went quite a bit further out on this one, right?

Well, except guess how many cloned cows you've eaten? Ah! Okay. A fucking lot. I bet you didn't realize that. I had no idea. So, I mean, the cloning thing is there. They just have...

I mean, but to the extent of these clones, I don't think we're there. Yeah. Well, I... Or at least I don't know. To make a full-grown clone the same age instantly like that, yeah. Well, that's true.

That's a bit of a stretch. But then it does, it does raise a cool question. of, you know, did he, because that was my original thought, I was like, okay, well, I died. Is it the clone or is it him? I know. It's hard not to get, not to talk about that, isn't it?

I was like, sorry. Like somebody says in the movie, does it really matter? Does it really matter? Yep. Or does it? Maybe the clone's a little genetic off. Anyway, we'll get into that as spoiler. Kind of like in Star Trek, right?

Using the transporter. Yeah. Because it basically fries all your, Adams and then rep puts them back together again somewhere else. So is that really you? I do have some questions, but I'll wait until spoilers to get into those. Okay. Scores, Brian?

I didn't like it as much as Possessor, but I really did enjoy it. And right now, I think this is a movie definitely needs to be rewatched. So right now I'm sitting at a 7.5. Nice. Nice. Lance? I'm going to stick. I am going to stick with eight on ten.

And so much of it is Mia Goth, quite frankly. Yeah, she killed it. She was acting when she had that wine bottle and she was riding on the old school car. Yeah, that was kind of awesome. We can't say too much, but you have a buck, Jesus Christ. She was throwing chicken wings at him. Oh, my God. James.

James. I did. get a little tired of hearing that. Yeah, but it kind of added to it. So I'll go eight on ten. It's possible, possible top ten for the year. Yeah, well, and, you know, maybe the big difference between this and Possessor is cast,

because Mia Gott and Alexander Scarsgaard sure are kind of two of my favorites right now. They've both been really... Wow, that's saying a lot. Yeah. Mia Gott has been awesome and everything that she's done. done. She is definitely on a historic rocket launch up. So we'll see what she does in the future. I'm excited.

Her and Wednesday. They're really hyped up. They're really hyped in Maxine up. Yeah. Well, they probably should be. I'm sure it's going to be a great. Is that going to come out this year or next? Oh, that's the other one from X and Pearl. Yeah, that's the one set after X. I got you. in the 80s and I think she for what I understand

she had more of input on the character okay that makes sense I mean she's we're gonna see her direct we're gonna see her directing a movie next probably just flat out yeah that's

probably the end of her trajectory is directing some really cool stuff in the future I mean she's gonna get here's now but she's gonna put her wacky husband in there who's her husband Shia.

Is he? Wait. Really? I believe so. 34 cents now. Let me see. I mean, hold on. Maybe I made that a shy LeBuff.

The 20. Yeah, they're still together and they have a kid. All right. There you have it. Sean, did you know? Did you have any idea? No. I had no clue.

I knew they were together when they did that movie. What was Lance? What was that? near Lars von Trir Nymphomaniac. I fucking hate Lars Von Trir, dude. Every fucking movie he's ever made a hate.

They met when they did that movie. Okay, that makes sense. Well, that's maybe why she's got a little crazy in her. Yeah, well, a lot of crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. She wasn't even trying to be an actress. Yeah.

Because originally she was a model, and then I guess somebody who was like, hey, you should try this out. She was like, well, I don't know. and look where she is now. I like her better as a model than an actress. I mean, she's pretty, and I think that she really pulled it off, but she pulls off this like oddball, no eyebrows look

with this, like, walking out and knowing that she's sexy thing. Sure. Sure. No? Yep. Anyway, and so she put it over the top for me. And I'm going to give this one a seven and a half also. Damn.

Wow. Sean, you missed out, brother. Yeah, no kidding. fuck. And I, you know, maybe, maybe I just wasn't in the right mindset for possessor when I tried to watch it this time. I was just like, oh, I don't want this right now. Probably should have gotten green, Philip.

Maybe. Or watched it in the middle of the night when everybody else was sleeping. Right, right. Nobody's fucking with me. But yeah. This one, this one was better. I thought it had probably more to say, and it was. A more interesting concept to me.

Let's do spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right.

Sean, you cool for a spoiler? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Okay, just making sure. Yeah, when we get to the reveal of what, they do with these clones. Basically, if you get arrested on this island for murder, it's punishable by death by the firstborn of the person you murdered. But if you're wealthy enough, you can have a clone made and they'll execute that clone.

But you have to sit there and watch the execution. So you have to watch yourself be executed. So does the person that's doing the execution know that the- what I was wondering. Actually did it. Well, the person sitting up there watching. Yeah, I would assume so because they're sitting the real person, well, allegedly the real person. And whoever's with them is sitting on some big-ass bleachers in the back right there.

And Brian, Brian, that exact point leads me to believe that maybe it is the real person that they're executing. Well, see, that's the thing, though. It's hard to tell because. these clones are your clone in every way. They maintain your memories up to the point that you were clones. So there's a scene where you're thinking, because he meets a group of people after that, and they're a bunch of rich assholes,

and this is what they do. They go out and fuck with people and commit crimes. A lot of clockwork orange vibes in that. Didn't you see that, Brian? Yeah, because they know if they get, if they get arrested, they got the money to just clone themselves and have their clones executed. But there's a scene where you think

it's not going correctly. The police are like, oh, no, we're executing you this time. That was my favorite scene of the movie. It's really the clones that are being executed. The clones think they're the real burden. Well, see, that's the thing. You don't know. And I thought that was... I got a look at the

gunshot in the leg of that one guy. Oh, yeah. But they never really gave you anything. on that. Yeah, what was with the gunshot? Because two different characters got shot in the leg in the same exact spot. Both had to walk on Cains. I'm sure there's something to that we're not picking up, right? I kind of took it at least for the one guy that he got shot in the leg so that we know knew that he was the actual real person throughout the movie. Allegedly, but why would they shoot the clone? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's an interesting concept, man.

It's not really justice, I mean, because the point of the death penalty is not to exact revenge. It's to make sure that that person doesn't hurt anybody else again. And if you just fucking leave them out there and you're giving revenge on a meat puppet, that doesn't... So it's kind of speaking on the justice system as it currently stands. If you have enough money, the CJ system is throwing up money, you'll essentially get out of what... Yeah. I was just about to say that, Sean, because who's really benefiting here? It's not the people that live in this country because they're getting murdered by these tourists. Yeah.

It's the government that's collecting all this. Hey, if you got enough money, hey, we'll just clone somebody and kill the clone, and then you can go back to doing what you're going. Do whatever, as long as you give us the money. And I also think it was very much by design that they made it a fictitious country, a fictitious island. Right? So you can't really say, well, this is the Middle East or Ukraine or Russia. I don't want to tell you where the clones are coming. You know.

And I saw a lot of similarities to the first one with the main character because after he gets introduced to this group, you know, he claims that he's lost his passport. He can't go back home with the wife. That's right. Because I think he's falling in love with this idea of this lifestyle. Yeah. To the point that when we get to the end and it's time to go home, we got that scene that he leaves the airport. He's sitting on the beach and in the rain.

Yeah. Because I felt like he just couldn't go back to that life anymore. Right. Even though he's not really the one paying for this because he married into money. Right. So I don't know if that lifestyle is going to be good. for him as she that's gonna yeah how sustainable is that gonna be that this one would have a weird sequel for sure wouldn't it yeah and i you know that may have been part of the emasculated

right you know i mean maybe that just sort of leads into that same thing that you were talking which i hadn't even the thought about it until you said something lance but uh yeah i mean if he married into money and he's not really doing anything right now and he's sort of struggling to find his career. Yep. I didn't take it as he was struggling. I kind of took it as he wasn't really... He was just gliding.

Yeah. He wrote one book, which you come to find out later in the movie. Uh-huh. Was a piece of shit. He didn't even really read it. And he's just been doing nothing for six years. Yeah. He's a trophy husband who's...

Trophy husband. Yeah, whose wife is loaded. Sean, he kind of seemed like... an asshole too because when you get introduced to him she's like heard of this part of the island you can go to and you can have dinner you know like they

it's like an all-inclusive kind of trip like you know yeah like a sand or some shit yeah he's just kind of like yeah she wanted to go to the Chinese restaurant but then as soon as Mia got then her group said let's go to the Chinese restaurant they're there he's like okay cool so yeah

he was a real asshole wasn't he He didn't treat her very well either, that's for sure. Well, she also jerked him off, so. Well, you know, there is that. Be a god, not his wife. Yeah. Well, yeah, he didn't struggle too hard to tell her no. No, right?

No. No. Never crossed his lips. The scene is basically they go to the beach after they eat, and he walks off to go to take a piss, and then she just walks up to go. behind him. He's just kind of like, I'm almost done. And then she just jerks him off. And he's like, uh, uh, uh, you know, like, I can't believe what she's doing. But at no point is he like trying to stop anything that's going on. Well, well, no comment on. Sean, hey, Sean, you have any questions for us, Sean, about what was in the movie or? It sounds interesting. I, I do want to see it. Um, I think the premise definitely does sound really fascinating, and it's like the whole relation to the C.J. system and everything.

So I can't think of any questions offhand. I have a question for you guys. The scene where, well, it's not seen. It kind of goes throughout the middle part of the movie, where it kind of seems like they're doing kind of a ritualistic, initiation to their group. Was it really, were they really kind of bringing them into the group or were they just fucking with him

throughout the movie as part of their enjoyment? It seemed like they were fucking with him. Because remember they had the clone doing the drugs later when they called the clone the dog? Yeah. It all depends on whether he was the clone or the actual person. You know what I mean? Sure.

Like it could just be some rando that they decided to play with. So it's really hard to kind of see, you know, to differentiate if it's a clone or if it if it's not throughout the movie? It's like your... It's sort of a question. Yeah. Like you, like if they

cloned you, Sean, that clone would remember every, feel everything up to that moment it was created. Wow. Because like, even like one of the clones is getting executed, he's calling for his wife. You know, he doesn't understand why he's being

executed, you know. Yeah. It's a trip. It's definitely trip. And then, so I guess that was, that was most of my questions was, was it always the real person or was it, or was it, or was it the clone at some point? Well, it's, it's an infinity pool, man. Yeah. Go on forever

and ever, ever, ever, never, never, never. Who ended up going home? Because like at the end of the trip where they went on this fucking, let's murder people and have orgies. It seems like they, this is what they do every year. Yeah. This is their vacation. Which was kind of crazy because that bus ride to the airport, they're talking about, oh, we got to paint the bathroom. Like, it's nothing to them.

And he's just, I'm going to rearrange the furniture. Yeah, he's sitting at the back of the bus, just a broken man. Thinking about he has to go home now. Right. Which kind of, I don't know. And the only time I thought maybe it wasn't the real clone is the scene where they brought out the other clone that was on a leaf. Yeah.

Right. I thought maybe that was the real him, and he was just so far gone off the drugs they were giving him. I honestly thought that, too, man. Because they give, right before they tell him, you got to kill this version of you, the dog version, they have him inhale the smoke again. Mm-hmm. And I'm just like, is that? Like, I know that. And I think there's no easy answer to that question, guys.

Well, unless it was some just fucking around Channing Tatum style and on a lot of drugs, there's no drugs that could make me just get on a leash and be like, yeah, I'm going to do what you tell me to do. Yeah. Like, why don't you not just stab her in the face? Must have been some good drugs, right? I guess. Well, he was having the mannerisms of a dog. And so I don't know how long they've been keeping this guy doing this day. doing this to him.

Okay. That's why I asked if they were just fucking with him because she said we that scene where you brought up where she was drinking the wine sitting on the hood of the car they were walking and doing the walk of shame down the road and she was throwing chicken wings at him. And she said

we thought we would have to get you into trouble but you got yourself into trouble in the first place. Yeah. I had a big question. in that one scene where he first or where we think was the first time he ever, you know, smoked the drugs. And then he was like, he smelled it. You could tell his, nothing changed on his face. Like he wasn't feeling it.

And then he looked at it and he said, how long does this stuff take to affect you? And all of a sudden he was just kind of like out there because she started like rubbing on him and stuff. So were they even really giving him drugs? I don't know. Or were they just burning like wood? You know what I'm saying? Like there's a lot of questions in this movie. Yeah, and then there's the other thing about she kept calling him a baby and then the whole breastfeeding thing.

The breastfeeding? Sure. I can always spot a baby. Yeah. What? Yeah. I don't want to say this baby. I don't want to say no one.

It's okay. I mean, no, I'm genuinely fascinated by the sounds of it. I do look to watch it. He gets breastfed in the movie. Yeah. At the end, he's like, he's broken. He curls up in the fetal position. and such a city, which

I mean, I mean, but still. And then there was the one nipple that like extended out. Yeah, that was during the drug, second. Yeah, I was wondering about that. And what was with all the masks, right? And what was with all the little, uh, the blue and the red ink that everyone that lived on the island had on them? I don't know.

See? I felt like the more to this movie. Bizar. I miss that. Yeah. Yeah, this is worth watching again. Yeah. All right.

You guys ready to call it tonight? We need some explanations for this shit. Maybe this is in the comments. This probably wouldn't be a bad movie for us to maybe even do a commentary on down the road, you know? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, food for thoughts. Holy shit, there's a boob. Yep.

All right, dude. Well, Sean, thanks again for joining, man. Thank you. Coming on board. And as for everyone else listening, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at Thehorror Returns at gmail.com. You can find us at www.thehorrorreturns.com.

Please consider becoming a Patreon patron. We do tend to exaggerate how quickly we're going to get gifts out. Sean, as you know Now you got him to me I'm literally sitting here with a box of fucking coosies that I gotta get rid of Hey, that's okay

I have some bad to get down to the post office We do exaggerate because I thought my wife had mailed those Blu-rays off last year Uh-huh I found him sitting in a box in the back of the truck Oh no Oh holy shit

This year We're just dudes guys Sorry I would personally go to the post office myself. Shit happens. Okay, next week, we will be joined by the doctor himself. Really? No, not Doctor Who, not Matt Smith.

We'll be joined by Matt Wood. From eternal darkness of not so spotless minds. Like you said, Lance, we don't know he's not the doctor. True, true. And what movies are recovering next week, Brian? The new M-night Shama-Lan knock at the cabin, as well as... Shamala, ding-dong. Fan favorite cabin in the woods.

Oh, man, that'll be a fun one. That'll be a fun one. Funnest cabin in the woods to eat this side of the Evil Dead, Sean. I was just showing... I was just showing... She's never seen it before. I was just showing my wife to preview of this earlier today. I had no idea that we were watching it next week.

So we need to be making her watch it. I read the book a couple of months back. So we'll see how close it is. But Brian, until the horror returns again, good night.