The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #35: Resident Evil (2002) & Resident Evil: The Final Chapter (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: July 9, 2021

Nez joins us to discuss some Resident Evil. Thanks for listening!

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We generally assume you guys have seen the classic film, so there will be spoilers when discussing anything that's been out for at least a year. The other thing we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be art-rated, at least the good ones, so you can pretty much expect us to be too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip. and again our buddy Kevin from McNaz and E Society podcast is with us. How's it going, guys?

Going pretty good. I'm good. Why don't? Yeah, I mean, we'll start it off with that with my cool of the week. Yeah, I got one more episode and then I'm done with the whole series. Oh, wow. At first I wasn't really on board because the first, first couple episodes really didn't grab me, but

like half, maybe a little, by the fourth episode, I was like, okay, what's going on here? I mean, it's totally different from the movie, but this is, from what I understand out of the show, this is 30 years after that incident that happened

back in Michael Crichton's movie. Right. But, I mean, I love what's going on and I like what they're doing, and I didn't realize that JJ Abrams has something to do with this because I was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday about it. He had finished it and he kind of wanted me to hurry up to finish so we could talk about it.

And he was saying that it's got that feeling that the TV show Lost Had. Okay. He had some complaints, but he goes like, I'm going to let you finish it before he gets into it. So I'm like, okay. But I really like what's going on. I mean, if people, I'm sure people have seen it already. But if some of you, if some of you listeners haven't, do go check it out. It's an amazing show.

I love it. I didn't think I was going to love it that much because I was just kind of like, okay, they're just trying to rehash something that we'd seen already. But this is totally different from the movie. And I like where it's going. And I know it's shitty that we've got to wait a whole other year before season two comes out. But, I mean, I love this show. I mean, it's just, I don't know.

It's badass, man. That's about all I could say about it. I kind of thought the same thing, man. Matter of fact, I was watching the Transformers Theater trailer today, and Anthony Hopkins is narrating, and I'm like, man, Anthony Hopkins is a bad dude. And most of his stems from Westworld.

He really kicked ass on that. Because it was weird that they got somebody that big to do a TV show, but man, he's killing it. I think the whole series was pretty awesome. Yeah, I didn't think that he would be that big into it. I thought he would be like maybe just pop in every now and then.

But it's pretty much following around him. Especially towards the end of the season, huh? Yeah. And I'm like, fuck. I mean, I was, I think it was one of the last couple episodes I watched. It like blew me away. I was like, whoa, wait a minute. Yeah.

It was. Yeah, man, that's what I loved about it. So I was like, oh, my God. I was just, I was binge watching it yesterday at work. Yeah, I couldn't stop. man i was like man i was texting uh jessie uh blind frankenstein from uh horocopia and i was telling him i'm like man i'm sucked into the show man i can't stop watching it brian have you uh you finished it up right yeah i finished it yeah so kevin was your friend

saying he had he had a problem with like the finale specifically or just like the the feeling like it had that lost feel to it i know some kind of uh he was saying some like loose ends loose ends. Yeah, and I'm like, well, we still got another season coming, so maybe they'll tie up. You can't leave a season in an ongoing show with no loose ends, man. Yeah, I thought they tied it up just enough. Like, I really like them. I love the finale.

Well, we'll wait until Kevin finishes it. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, if you guys, if you listeners aren't watching it, man, do go, do check it out. It's an awesome show. Anything not so cool this week? No, not really. I know I had something, but I just...

It's always cool. Yeah. Oh, oh, well, I'm still going through the movie, but it's a movie called Skin Trade. It's with Tony Jha and Michael Jai White and Drago. Dolph Lungry. Really? Yeah, I've turned them.

movie off. Yeah, man. Not so cool, huh? When you hear those three names together, like, I immediately, as soon as it was on Netflix, I hit play, but I think I might

have got like 20 minutes in. Oh, no. You expected a lot more, huh? Yeah. I'm like halfway through it. And I'm kind of like, okay. But I mean, I have to finish it, man. I like all three of those guys.

And yeah, Brian, like, beating those names. You're like, oh, hell, yeah, this is going to be badass. And then I'm going to... Well, Dolph Lundgren always throws a red flag to me. Not these days, huh? You didn't like Kindergarten Cup, too? Reh, man. Remember that one?

I do, unfortunately. I love that movie. Masters of the Universe, that movie's badass. I love that. That's cheesy as hell, man. It is. That's why I love it. Quick story.

I don't know if I mentioned it on here before, but my buddy and I, we went to go see Lost Boys when that came out. And Masters of the Universe came out, like, I think like the weekend after or something. So my buddy was going on and on about Lost Boys. So I was like, oh, sweet, let's go see it. I love Lost Boys, awesome movie. Probably one of my favorite vampire movies. And then I did a little theater hopping. And Masters of the Universe was in the next theater over.

And I said, hey, man, let's go see this. He goes, no, I'm going to watch Lost Boys again. And so I went, okay, so I snuck into the next theater. And I sat there. I was in there by myself, the whole movie, but I enjoyed every minute of it. When it came on HBO, I recorded it. I bought it on VHS. I bought it on DVD.

Now I have it on Blu-ray. I love that movie. For a shitty and as cheesy it is, I love it. Killer clowns from outer space. That's what reminds me of. Man, I don't know if I really have much of a cool little week. I hadn't really watched it a whole lot except the movies. I did get my wife to watch Stranger Things.

The whole series? Yeah, so she finished the whole series, which was cool because I was excited about it again. I'd come in and see little pieces that she was watching. And then I saw that they won a SAG Award, and Winona Ryder's making all crazy faces. I'm sure you've seen it on Facebook. I haven't seen that.

No? No. I haven't checked that out. It's so funny. There's one, it's got, The guy that played the cop in Stranger Things. Right, sure. Like, given the acceptance speech.

He went political, didn't you? Yeah, well, out of nowhere he pulls out this whole page of shit that he's written and just starts going off the deep end. Oh, no. And Wainona Ryder's looking at him the whole time like, what the fuck are you saying? But the facial expressions that she makes taken out of context are hilarious. And there was one where they had like a floating piece of pizza and it was like looking wherever her eyes were looking. Right. Then it went the guy's mouth and she had this like, huh?

Oh, no. It's just Google Winona Ryder and pizza. I'm telling you, it's worth it. It's like a 15-second clip with no sound. What did you check out, Brian? I did a couple of rewatches, some 80s movies with my daughter, The Never Ending Story, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Awesome.

That's classic. Yeah, kind of going through all the 80s movies that I grew up with with her. Right. That's got more pieces. And yes. And then I checked out lights out. And I didn't really, it's okay. I really like the character of Diana and her whole, her whole thing going on in the movie.

I just thought it was, I really didn't care for the ending the way it just kind of suddenly ended. Yeah. It's always the ending that'll get you. Yeah. But other than that, you know, I didn't really watch too much. Yeah, I saw a pretty cool movie from 1979. Do you guys ever heard of the boys from Brazil? They're ring of mail.

Kevin, you should know about this, man. Yeah, I've heard of it. I mean, I've seen it, but it's, it's been a long time since I've seen it. What kind of movie is this? Title's kind of shitty. No, it's Basically there's a plot There's a

How do I describe it? It's because it's a really weird movie But there's a plot to clone Adolf Hitler It's Nazi war criminals They're hiding out in Brazil And the current day When the movie takes place, which is 79 And this guy stumble

A very, very young Steve Gutenberg In the role Stumbles on them Coming up with this plot to clone Hitler and put Hitler youth basically in every major country around the world

and get the third right going again. It's a really bizarre movie but it's a lot of fun to watch. So I would recommend it be like really, Kevin, I think you'd be right up your alley, man. It's kind of like just the beginning of that 80s

kind of cheesy stuff, but it's got a lot of really good actors like James Mason is in it, Lawrence Olivier, people that are like, We're kind of just past their prime when they did this movie, but they do a good job in it. Creepy Nazi stuff is always kind of fun, though. Super creepy, man. I think only one of the reasons I watched it was because of Gregory Peck.

Yeah, right. I loved him in the Omen, and I think that was around the time or maybe a couple of years before that I'd seen the Omen. So I was like, okay, Greg Peck was cool. So let me check this out. I've seen it, but it was a long time ago. I haven't, I only seen it once. I can barely remember anything about it. remember who was in it because there was a lot of big players that were in that movie so but

I'm going to have to check it out now I got me thinking about I think I'm confusing it with something else but I don't know I'll find it and check it out again it's worth the watch you know it's definitely definitely out there like one of the crazier ideas I've heard of you know yeah and get this the main Nazi war criminal is Joseph mingale the guy that used to experiment on twins and children, he would take like arms and legs off one and put him on the other and all these weird Nazi experiments that he did. That's crazy. Yeah. So it's worth the watch.

Definitely worth the watch. What about horror headlines, Brian? Anything big happening this week? First, we're going to get in a couple of Blu-ray, upcoming Blu-ray picks. Let's see. We're getting a Wishmaster, a four-film Blu-ray collection from Bestron coming March 28. One of my favorites from the 90s, Tales from the Hood, is coming on Blu-ray from Scream Factory. The original, huh?

April 18th. And, Lance, you know about this one. House and House 2 is coming on a double pack from Arrow. Blue Ray set, March 21st. That sounds cool. Lance just walked outside for a second. Okay. The dog's going crazy.

all right uh let's get you are hold on hold on when when was that uh tales from the hood one uh april 18 okay damn still got a ways to go yeah um that movie was awesome i loved it i know it did have that little kind of a political point behind some of the stories but it was an awesome movie i loved it yeah i think all the stories were enjoyable I remember when it first came out I was kind of like okay tails from the hood I mean just by looking at the poster

is what is what threw me off I was kind of like okay but a buddy of mine Brooklyn wasn't it a skull with a gold tooth

or something like that Kevin yeah he's different no it's the one he's got a gold tooth and he's wearing those loke sunglasses but

it's a good movie, man. There was some known actors in it, so it was good. Plus, Spike Lee had his hands in it, so I could see why it went kind of political and everything, but it was still a good

movie, man. I enjoyed it. Cool. Okay. Okay. Our first headline is M. Knight-Shama-Lan is going to move forward with Unbreakable 2, which is also going to be, it's also going, yeah, it's also

going to be a sequel to Split. There you go. That's perfect, man. Well, if you haven't seen Split, it ain't to ruin anything for you. But it's related. Shaman has he said he's always envisioned unbreakable to be a trilogy.

Interesting. Okay. So the next... Clues he's leaving. It seems like a puzzle. That's a twist. So the next one's going to be the last one. He's going to wrap it up in the third movie. you think so?

I believe so. Well, if he wants to... I don't know that this is... I don't know that split was like a sequel. But it ties into it, so... Yeah, but I wouldn't call that the second movie of Unbreakable. So I think he's got a couple more. Yeah, I think it depends on how you look at it.

Yeah, I think we'll just have to wait and see. He definitely says he wants Unbreakable 2 to be his next movie. Okay, cool. I'm down. Speaking of Shyamalan... Shyamalan. He wants to direct an episode of Stranger Things. What do you guys think about this?

That is a risk. I don't think it's necessary. What do you think, Kevin? I think he can do it. I mean, all he's going to do is direct it, and I don't think he's going to be writing it. Right. Because a lot of known directors have done, like, TV shows.

Like, Kevin Smith has done one of the Goldberg's episode. episodes and I'm sure he didn't write that. And Rob Zombie did, uh, I want to say one of those NCIS ones. Yeah. I think it was CSI. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, these guys, I mean, they didn't write any of it. They were just there to direct it. So, um, I'm all for it, man. I mean, I've said it before on the last episode. I mean, I liked everything he's done. So, I mean, if he's not in the writing part of the show, I'm sure he's always going to do is direct. So I mean, I'm cool with that. All right. Well.

Give it a shot, huh? See how it goes. Okay. Possibly in the future for American Horror Story, we're going to get a Murder House-Coven crossover season. Murder House is my favorite season by far. Yeah. That was the first season.

I don't know if I like them going back to the well, though. I like the new story every season thing that they got going. I think they should stick with that. Yeah, I kind of liked it second after Asylum. Asylum was my favorite. Yeah, they kind of just went all out on Asylum, because you got a little bit of everything in that season. Seemed like it.

I've only seen the, I saw the first two seasons, and then I'm slowly getting through Coven, and I don't know, it's just not grabbing me. But Asylum was the same way. That took me forever to get through. Me too, man. it wasn't grabbing me but then when it got towards the end is when it got

good and the next you know it was over so I was like oh but murder house out of the ones I've seen that that was my favorite one yeah me too but I don't I don't want to revisit the story I think that they'd be better off doing something different try something new huh yeah

hold on speaking of speaking of murder house I know I heard something about them turning it into like a thousand dollar a night Airbnb. Did you guys hear anything

about that? No, I haven't heard that. It surprised me at all. This was a one. They aren't down to 500 a night and then they may get tourists. Right. Tourists aren't going to spend a thousand dollars a night. Yeah, come on, man.

That's crazy. Well, if you get enough guys together and all throw in, I'm sure it's a big enough house for everyone. I'm not talking about myself. But, I mean, A house on haunted hill scenario, huh? Oh, no, thank you.

But speaking of a house on a haunted hill, do you hear they're going to remake that? Yeah, I heard about it. Yeah, I'm not. You're not around, huh? The original one was cool. Yeah, it was good for what it was, Vincent Price cheese and everything.

But that first remake they did in the 90s, I mean, I enjoyed it. And not so much the second one, but I guess if they're going to do it again, I mean, we can't stop them, and then of course we'll see it. So, I don't know. See how it goes. It is what it is, man.

All right. The upcoming Shane Black Predator sequel slash reboot, a little bit of everything. They're in talks for Thomas Jane joined the cast. Thomas Jane, okay. Yeah, I'm all for it. I like Thomas Jane. Me too. Also, go ahead.

Go ahead. Oh, no, I was just, I was soaking it in, letting that marinate. I think I like it. I'm okay with that. Also joining the cast is a room star Jacob Tremblay. Was he like the kid? Yes. Okay.

So I don't know where they're going with this movie. I don't either. Honestly, with this, so far the cast includes Keegan Michael Key, Olivia Munn. Trevante Rhodes and Sterling K. Brown. Kean Peel are just doing a bunch of stuff. Oh, I got to say, while I'm sitting here, though, that I watched that Jordan Peel, or I don't know, whichever one wrote that new movie that's coming out.

Yeah. And I like the preview now. Like, I kind of want to see that movie. Yeah, after you watch the trailer a few times, huh? Yeah, like, after I saw it a couple times, I was like, and this looks really good. you may be in luck because I think Brian Brian's got that one on the docket for us.

Good, I'll watch it. Yeah. Go ahead. That looks good. I liked it the first time I saw the trailer. And a buddy of mine was like, I ain't going to watch that shit. I said, you know, we'll stay home because I'm going to see it. Well, I think I was tired of hearing political shit on my Facebook all day.

Right. And so when one more political effing thing came out, I was like, all right, I don't want to mess with But now that it's settled down a little bit, even though it hasn't. Yeah, it looks pretty interesting. I like it. I'm on the IMDB page for The Predator, and it says 50 cent, but it just says rumored. Really? Yeah, this casting is all over the place.

Wow. That's crazy. From a couple of things I read, it's supposed to be a direct sequel to the first one, and they said Arnold was going to cameo. and I can't think of the actress's name. She was the Survivor. Okay. For the first one, she was supposed to return.

Okay. So I have no idea where they're going with this movie. I'm going to give it, you know, some leeway because it's Shane Black. And, you know, I like a lot of the stuff he's written. What was the one most recently? Lance, you've seen it. it, the one with Russell Crowe. The nice guys?

Yeah, I like that one. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. I didn't think it's as good as a lot of people did. I really liked it. It was kind of a mix of action and comedy, I thought. Yeah, it was definitely different. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Right. We'll see how we got it. Our last news item, we had talked about the rumor of Michael Doherty, the trick-a-treat, crampus director directing Godzilla. It's official now. He is directing.

And they've also casted Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things to be in the movie. Yes. Interesting. All right. Well, we'll give it a chance. I mean, that seems like an odd choice for director,

but I mean... Doesn't it? That's what I was thinking. I was like, what... Would you ever thought that the guy who directed the Brothers Bloom would be doing a Star Wars? movie. Well, you know, I mean, these are the days that, it's kind of weird, it seems like, these little independent directors can get a couple of people, like, in their small movies, and end up with these blockbusters now, which is pretty cool.

As long as it's well written, like you were saying earlier, Kevin, as long as it's real well written, it's kind of hard to fuck it up. I guess, man, trick-or-treat. That was okay. I mean, I didn't see. Yeah, I liked it. It was okay, but I saw it after the fact when everyone was going, oh, man, it's so good.

And I was okay, so I was expecting to be really good. And I was like, eh, it was cool. I liked it. Crapass I enjoyed. Trick-or-treat, too. Well, I'll see it when it comes out. But as far as this Godzilla movie, I don't know. I mean, because I wasn't really that big of a fan of the first one.

I think they're going to learn their lesson with this sequel. You think so? Yeah, we... Is it a sequel or is it a reboot? It's a sequel. Oh. Interesting. And it's gonna...

And also, from what I'm hearing, the Kong Skull Island is going to have a Godzilla tie-in somewhere in the middle, or in the movie. Okay. So... Makes sense. Yeah, they are building this universe. And I'm excited. I'm excited for this Kong Godzilla universe. My only...

my only thing that I want in this movie is more Godzilla. Yeah. And be about... Go ahead, I'm sorry. Be about Godzilla. Stop giving us these little side stories. Right. I don't care about the guy who dies.

Love Story. Godzilla smashes him. That's the end of the goddamn story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I meant by... I think they're going to learn their lesson from the first one. There's not going to be no cutaway scenes.

Right. Like, you're about to see Godzilla do something, then the camera cuts away. I think they're going to learn their lesson from all of that. At least I'm hoping that we'll get a better Godzilla movie. And they said there'll be a lot more kaiju monsters in this one. All right. Like I said last week, maybe Ann Hathaway will show up, right, Kevin? Oh, yeah.

The poster I see for the new movie, it's just called Godzilla. of two and it's got a moth on it. So is mother going to be in this? Yeah, one of the rumored, uh, uh, kajoo, uh, monsters in this one. Yeah, if it's got, if it's got a moth on it, it has to. Okay. I mean, give me Rodan or something else before we get a big, giant motha. I'm cool with Mothra. Mothra is a classic monster, man. And I'd go with that.

If, if I'm mistaken, I want to say, they hinted around for Mothra in the first movie. Right. I need to watch it again, but I was pretty sure that they did. I mean, I could be wrong. But is this Godzilla 2, or is it Godzilla King of Monsters? Because I'm seeing both titles. Same movie.

Okay. But King of Monsters is... Yeah, King of Monsters. Yeah, what was it, King of Monsters? Yeah. Yeah, that's the official title. Okay. I like that better.

I don't know if I asked you guys this last week. Did any of you see Shin Godzilla? No. I want to. I heard it was terrible. I haven't seen it. I loved it. I thought it was an amazing movie.

It was a Godzilla movie. Everything. No side story, no love story, no guy loses his wife or anything. Man, there was a lot of talking in it. That kind of bugged me. But the only thing that was cool about all that talking is they were trying to, figure out how to stop this monster, how to stop Godzilla. So, I mean, that's why I enjoyed it.

It was really long. I know it was like over two hours or at the two hour mark, but it was good for what it was. I mean, I wasn't too hip on the appearance of Godzilla because we all know he's got those little T-Rex arms, but they were like really small on this one. And from what I got in this movie, this was supposedly the beginning. of Godzilla. Because when this monster first appears,

you don't know what the hell it is. It's before Godzilla started lifting, bro. Yeah. I mean, I do, when you guys see it, if you cover this one, I was like, oh man,

what the fuck am I watching? Because it was how Godzilla looked before he became the monster that we all know and love. I don't know what it was. It looked like a worm or something with big giant bulgy, eyes and I was like oh my god

yeah I was like is this the best you guys can do but no but once it got going and everything and Godzilla started wreaking havoc in Japan I mean it was an amazing movie I love it I can't wait for to come out because I want to pick it up director's like that doesn't look like

Godzilla the guy's like hey it's the best we got that's what we had on our budget huh you see this is what Godzilla before he was Godzilla worm Godzilla that's what that's Wait, on that note, you guys ready to head out to the trailer park?

Let's do it. Oh, the trailer park. All right, all right. Let's take a little trip to the trailer park, boys. Take a look at the big, the small. And if Brian doesn't disappoint, the very, very weird. So, Brian, what's the first new trailer this week, man? First one we're going to talk about is Arbor Demon,

starring Rob Bouton, Jake Busey, and Fiona Diroff. All right. It's got a Bucy in it. It's got a pretty good cast. Yeah, I also like the look of the creature in it. It's like a weird tree demon type thing. Right. Yeah, that's where it lost me.

Did it lose you there? You didn't need another Groot crossover, huh? I wanted it to be better than it was. I mean, it's just a trailer, so you never can't really tell. True. But it didn't grab me as much as I thought it was going to. I mean, I love Jake Busey. I mean, so I'm still going to see it just because he's in it.

Yeah, and it also has Fiona Dura, Brad Doreoff's daughter. Sure. So, yeah. She's got to do something before the cult of Chucky comes out, right? Yeah. Which that sounds like it's going to be pretty good. They're bringing back. Andy, the

actor that played the original Andy. Oh, really? Yeah, he's also going to be in it. And Jennifer Tilly's going to be in it. Well, yeah, that makes sense. Arbor Demon comes out February 3rd. Our next trailer we're going to talk about is Netflix original I Don't Feel at Home in the World,

starring Melanie Linsky, Elijah Wood, and Jane Levy directed by Macon Blair who was he's an actor also and he's been in Blue Ruin and Green Room.

Right. I know you remember him in Blue Ruin, Lance. Yeah, was he the main guy? The one that was homeless at the beginning, living in the car and everything? Yes.

Okay, cool. Yeah, that was a great movie, man. Green Room was awesome too. Kevin, I know you did, I remember you did a whole show on that man and you started uh you basically spoiled it man you you you describe it from start to finish but i couldn't quit listening i tried not to yeah but when i i saw the movie it was uh it was still awesome but yeah those were two great movies for sure man blue ruin i haven't seen that one i need to check

that one out yeah it's it's good man you'll you'll like it for sure Netflix hadn't steered me wrong yet And this one This one looks pretty funny And quirky And I think that that's kind of cool I like I like Elijah Wood And I like the main chick that's in it

I know I've seen her in a thousand other things I couldn't tell you what they were Right But it It looks pretty interesting I'll watch it She was the crazy girlfriend And two and a half men

The one that was always after Oh right Charlie Sheen. I've never seen that one. I wanted to go in Wayne's World? A gun. This one looks cool. I mean, I'll check it out.

I like Elijah Wood and I love Jane Livy, so I'll see it. Yeah, I read a little bit about it. I guess Elijah Wood, some crazy karate guy. He likes to deal with his problems with his martial arts. What? Yeah. I mean. Yeah, I don't know

If his character Super fucking weird, man, but he's... Yeah, I don't know... Go ahead. I don't know if his character actually knows martial arts Or if he thinks he does. That would be even more awesome If he doesn't know it at all, he thinks it.

And you know, it's also got Jane Levy From Don't Breathe. Oh, she's in it too? Yeah, I believe she's the one in the trailer. She's got the hood on with the gun. I believe that's her. Is she one of the bad guys or what? I don't know.

It's hard to tell. Yeah, but we're getting this one pretty soon here, February 24th. I don't guess money shows up in this one, does he? If he does, I hope he goes out the same way. That was one of the most satisfying kills in a movie I think in a long time. I want Elijah Wood to karate him or something. Yeah. There you know, man.

Speaking of Elijah Wood, have you guys ever met him? No. He's little. He is a hobbit. He is a hobbit. I mean, he was a super nice guy when we met him at Comic-Con one year, but I was this. I can't picture him as, well, I guess there is little guys that know martial arts, but I don't know. But when you see him, you just want to hug him because he's so little.

Oh, you're a little elf. Come here. And it was tough to watch him. Did you guys see that remake, Maniac? Yeah, I thought it was pretty good, man. I did too. I mean, but it was kind of tough to buy him in that character

because I love the original one. But, I mean, it was a still good movie for what it was. But I don't know if I told this story on here before when I met him. It was during Comic Con. We were at the District 9 screening. Oh, wow. was there. He was there. Peter Jackson was there. And the director for, um, the director and the director and the main star in District 9, they were there. And, uh, one of the other hobbits, the one that

was in lost, um, Dominic Monaghan. They were all there. We were standing in line to get a popcorn and everything. And, uh, there was this big dude standing in front of me. And then they were okay next. And then here came this little guy walking around, uh, from the, behind the big guy. And it was Elijah Wood. I was like, whoa, hey, I was like,

whoa, hey man, how you doing? He was like, hey, guys, you guys ready to watch the movie? We're like,

yeah, and then my, Theo was with me, and we were all like, yeah, man, you were badass and Lord of the Rings and you started kissing

his butt about other movies and this man. I think I mentioned, I told him my favorite movie. Radio Flyer. Yeah, radio flyer. That was the one I said.

Did you really? Yeah, I said, oh, man, you made me cry in that movie. He was like, oh, cool. Sorry about that. And I said, no, don't worry about it. But he was real cool. And we said, hey, man,

we don't want to keep you from whatever you're doing. He'd go, no, no worries. So he said, hey, we all shook his hand and he walked away. So we were all sitting there really quiet. And then, I mean, none of us were talking. And I was like, um, is it me? Or did he have the prettiest eyes? And Theo and told it. Yeah. I was just, mesmerized. I mean, here's this little guy standing in front of me, and all I could see are those, I think they were blue, but I don't know what it was. He just,

his eyes were so, he mesmerized. That's why I said, I just wanted to hug him. He was a little kid, man. I've watched that guy grow up. I really like Elijah Wood. I feel like he's a part of my childhood. Yeah.

I'm just looking, he was talking about IMDB, man. I was just looking through all the roles he's played. The dude's been around, man. Quietly. Made a huge name for himself, you know? Yeah, he's super big into horror, too. He's got that company. What is the, Spectra Vision?

Oh, yeah? Oh, that's, yeah. Yeah, he's a part owner of that company. Look, I didn't know that. Oh, cool. I think, did you see that movie, uh, Green Street Hooligans? No, I haven't. I did see that.

That was awesome. Oh, hell yeah, it was. That one was badass. It was him and, uh, that was him and, uh, that was you see that movie. one dude from from Sons of Anarchy Charlie Hunan Oh, he was him

I didn't realize That was before Suns of Anarchy I think Yeah It's like a fight club In Ireland Or wherever it is It sounds promising

It's hella good You should check that one out If you can Green Street Hooligans Even you listeners If you guys haven't seen it Check out that one There's three of them

But watch the first one There's three Green Street Hooligan movies Yeah I know the one of them The second one had to do something with prison And then I remember Scott Adkins was in the third one

But I don't even I don't remember I don't think I seen that one yet All right Okay Our final trailer We are going to talk about is Brimstone Starring Dakota Fanning Kit Harrington

Carrease von Hootin I apologize if I mispronounce your name And Guy Pearce That's a good cast fan for sure i was starting to wonder what happened to uh dakota fanning yeah i think she's just bigger than her now yeah i think she's just really picky about what she does now yeah right like twilight and that's it yeah i like those movies well interesting man yeah trailer trailer looked pretty good like a horror western right is she is she supposed to be like a witch or something i you know

know, I couldn't tell. I know it looks like she can't speak. Right. And she seems to have some kind of pass with a guy Pierce. He looks like he's like some kind of crazy preacher or something that he's coming to, like, basically coming after anybody who sins or something like that. And it looked really interesting. I just was a little taken off by Kit Harrington's southern accent. Wasn't really buying it. I didn't see him say much. He was only in the, well, that probably says a whole lot right there. He was only in the preview for a few seconds. And I was like, is that John Snow?

But, I mean, it looks interesting. It looks interesting. I'll give it a watch. Cool. When's it come out? I'll check it out. It should be already out. I think it's out right now in limited release.

All right. I don't know if it's getting a wide release or VOD. anytime soon. Find it on. Somewhere. Yeah, just everybody check their local theaters and see if it's playing. All right. Interesting.

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Yeah, I want to check that out Yeah, it looks interesting I've heard of it But I haven't seen it Yeah, we watched the trailer for what Two or three weeks back Yeah, something like that It looks really really twisted

Yeah, there's a few of them That are coming out that look kind of interesting like that That one and Raw was what I was thinking Yeah That's coming out And I saw like a movie poster of it somewhere Really? Yeah, like in one of the theaters

So I'm really excited about that one now Which one, raw? Yeah, raw. Yeah. Yeah, I believe the middle of March it comes out. Awesome. Cool. I'm excited.

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All right, Brian, you got anything else, man? Are you ready to move on to the features? We can move on to the features. Hold on a minute. Hold on. About that raw movie, there was just some stuff, and I'm sure you guys have talked about it too, about people passing out or throwing up through the movie.

I'm like, there's been so many other movies. It goes all the way back to the 70s from what I remember. Oh, yeah. There's always something like that. Oh, man, people are throwing up and passing out and they can't, they can't handle it. I'm just like, okay. I mean, all these movies that, these past movies that they've been talking about, about people throwing up and this and that, I've seen all those movies.

Right. Not once did I feel like throwing up or anything. So this one, I mean, the trailer looks cool. It looks like a good movie. I'll watch it. And I have no problem. People eating raw, whatever. But I think,

I think the only move... I stole a goddamn two pounds of ground beef out of the sink, son of bitch. Oh, shit. There was one movie I've seen to where it made me like gag and dry heaf. It was a movie called Slaughtered Vomid Dolls. Have you seen that? What? Dude, come on, man. I've never heard of that.

You're making this shit up, dude. No, dude. Death metal band. No, it was on Netflix a couple years ago. Right. A buddy of mine turned me on to it. It was kind of almost like those August underground movies, all real gritty. Like someone filmed it with a video camera, VHS video camera.

Huh. And I couldn't even tell you what the story was about. It was so stupid, but it says it in the title. I mean, The Vomit Dolls. If you're going to see a movie called Slaughtered Vom Dormit. Dolls, you better be ready for that kind of shit. Oh, yes. There was plenty of it, man. They were throwing

up in the cups and drinking it and... Oh, no! Two girls wake up. Yeah, I mean, there was this... This was the movie that I'm talking about. There was a scene where a guy

that killed this one dude and like busted open his head and started eating his brain. What? Yeah, then threw it up back into the guy's top of his head and then like slurped it back up again and oh man it was crazy but it was it was a stupid movie but my buddy was like you gotta watch this you got to watch this i mean right i sat through the whole movie but some of it i'm cool when when you know it's fake i mean it doesn't

bother me but when these guys were throwing up i mean there was no way around how that was fake i mean they were really making themselves throw up and then drinking it back again that's what yeah sounds like i don't want to i don't want to watch gross just for the sake of gross. That's what I was going to do. Any movie, though, if you think about it, that's had that sort of buzz around it where people are fainting in the theater and all that stuff,

most of it, most of the time when the movie comes out, is it so grotesque that you can't stand it? Well, no, but is it a pretty decent movie? Yeah. I mean, what you talk about like Evil Dead and the Exorcists and stuff like that? That's what I think of when things like that happen. Yeah, this movie came out in 2006. It was directed by

This is a stupid name. Lucifer Valentine. Yeah, that's his real name, I'm sure. And the names... Oh, dude, sounds like a death metal band. The cast in it, there's somebody named Pig Lizzie, Princess Pam, Miss Pussy Pets, Alan Nasty. If it's not...

I'm finding those people and starting one. You sure this wasn't a porno, you watch, man? No But Yeah, it was on Netflix And that's what kind of worried Worried me about Yes, it was on the streaming

That's what kind of bothered me a little On Netflix I was like Did Did they watch this before they Nope Agreed to put it on It's not on there anymore

So I think people finally Somebody complained, huh? Yeah, but I was like This is on there Because I remember when I first got Netflix My little guys were little and they had it on their Xboxes and everything and I told them

look you guys can watch whatever you want on here but do not watch this movie I'm sure it probably made them watch it. I was right. Yeah, don't press the red button. But there's that future on Netflix of when whatever you watch sometimes is oh just because you watch this you might like these movies so

there was no way around it but that movie's not on there anymore and if any of you listeners have seen it Yeah, it's crazy. But I think that's the only movie that kind of made me want to gag and then like dry heave and everything. But yeah, but it's like after watching that, I can probably get through raw and not even. I'm sure. I can probably sit there and eat something while I'm watching that movie.

All right, man. Well, on that note, I need a palate cleanser. And I can't. So we're going to do that with zombies. Right. Yeah, but I couldn't think of a better palate cleanser than Milo Jovovich, could you? Well, that's true. All right, so time for our featured attractions.

This week, we explore the Resident Evil franchise. So we started out by talking about the original 2002 Resident Evil, director and writer Paul W.S. Anderson, also known for Event Horizon and Death Race. That's my man. director of Paul W.S. Anderson and star Milojovich became engaged the following year. Smart man. Yeah, well, hopefully he doesn't fuck up like the other guy that married Beckinsale we were talking about. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he fucked up. That was the same situation, huh? Right. Man, these movies are so similar. Very similar, man. To prepare for their roles, the actors playing commandos, and also Milo Jovovich and Eric Mabius had a week of commando training. It included climbing, martial arts, weapons handling, etc.

With former Navy SEALs James Butler. A whole week? A whole week. And, well, you know, for them, I mean, that's... For me, right now, that would be a lot, man. But this is interesting. Gwyneth Paltrow was originally offered the role of Alice. This movie would have been fucking horrible.

Yeah. Totally different. Stolen in her cooch having high society. B. All right, Kevin. Kevin, you're our guest, man. You want to get it going? Oh, this movie's badass.

I love it. I love Mila. She's awesome. She's beautiful and she's hot and everything. But the movie that made the person that made me want to go see this was Michelle Rodriguez, because I love her. Yeah. Ooh.

She's always that badass on a kick-ass and kill everything person. and pretty much everything she's done. She's hot while she does it. Quick start real quick. I met her at Comic Con one year. It was during a machete when that movie was coming out. They had a machete party. And she was one of the DJs.

And I was standing right in front of her DJ booth snapping like a million pictures a second. And she's like, get out of here, I'm happy. When she was done with her set, she was like waving goodbye to everybody. And since I was like the closest one to her, I stuck my hand out And then she grabbed my hand

And like, I was like, oh, I almost passed out And took her back to the hotel room You gotta finish the story Finish the story, man, come on It was like touching the clouds She had such soft hands But that she walked out of my life And I never saw her again

She sparked like a vampire But I mean But this movie is awesome I mean, I love it I mean I love the video games I've only played the first three on PS1 and then

that other game I think was like codename Veronica I think that was the first game that came out for PS2 and then after that man they were spitting out these games left and right

and yeah it kind of loses some appeal when they come out like one after another like that huh yeah didn't a new one just come out I think so

I don't know it seems like they come out like every month but I mean this movie was good. I mean, it kind of almost started like the movie, or like the game, but not really, because there was a name. And I remember in the first game,

there was like a whole, uh, the Stars team went into that big mansion and pretty much stayed in there before they went on the ground. This one, right. Um, because I don't remember there being an Alice character. I know there was, but I can't remember

which game she popped up in. I want to say, I don't think she was in the first one. I want to say the second or, I don't remember, but someone's probably yelling at me. But, I mean, the games were good, and the reason I love those games is because they were scary. Right. I liked what they did for when those games came out in the 90s, and then it was good. And when this movie came out, I was like, oh, cool, I'm all on board.

And I went and saw it. And for this is, what is there, five, six of them now. This is probably my favorite one out of all of them. And it was cool. I was watching this first one before I saw the new one. And I just realized, damn, she was so young looking. She was like baby face. Freaking gorgeous, isn't she?

Yeah, I mean, she's a mom now, so she's a milf. But it was just, it was cool to see her how she just stayed hot from movie to movie. And even now, I mean, she's a beautiful young lady. And I'm just like, oh, man, but I'm all for it. I mean, I loved all these movies. This one being my favorite one, like I said, and I liked what they did with it. I mean, they did give it that zombie. It was a zombie.

This one was a zombie movie, maybe because later on in the rest of the movies, they went all crazy with all these other crazy umbrella experiments. Right. But, I mean, I liked it. Because this one, like, the first game, it stuck with the zombies, and it stuck with, like, the liquors and the little zombie dogs or whatever. those Doverman Fincher

were so I thought it was dogs huh but the only problem I had of this movie was the CGI I know it was

early CGI but it was ugh the way the the way the liquor yeah I was I was kind of like

but I mean for what the movie was man I really enjoyed it and I love this movie Photoshop sorry we're looking at pictures he's finding nude pictures pictures of Milo Jovovich, and I'm like,

Nabi, that's Photoshop. Yeah, some of these are real, though, man. That's not real. That's not real. That's Photoshop. Yeah, all right. We can do a new segment, huh? Real or Photoshop.

Anyway. So you really enjoyed this one then? Yeah, I love this one. What'd you think, Brian? Oh, I love the whole series. She, in my opinion, Milojovich is the one that sells this movie. she's a beautiful ass kicker to the point where I even I even like that horrible movie

you guys ever see Ultraviolet? Oh yeah! It wasn't that bad. That's some bad CGI right there. Yeah, I don't remember that too much. That came out like in the 90s, didn't you? Yeah, I'd have to go back to watch it again. But yeah, I love the character of Alice, you know. the movies

kind of as it progresses the story gets a little jumbled we'll talk about that when we get to the new one but um as far as as far as this one this is one of my this is probably my favorite out of all of them

and uh yeah and uh that uh Kevin brought it up the scene with the with the with the with the Doberman Pinchers that was that's the scene that always sticks out to me. Yeah.

Right. Well, and the video game, in that first one, when the dogs come out, man, that's some scary shit. You know, I've never played the games. Oh, dude, the first one. Go back and play. I mean, I don't know if it'd be the same magic now because, you know, with the new graphics and all that. But, dude, that first game was magic when it came out. It was scary as shit. So would you guys say this movie's pretty close to the video game?

Parts. As far as the scenarios and the monsters and everything? I would just say parts of it. Yeah, it kind of stays half-ass true to the storyline, and so it's got parts of the game in it, but it doesn't really stick to it. Yeah, all right. Well, I guess I'll go next. I'm going to go in a little bit different direction here, guys. Sorry.

I really did enjoy the intro where it was taking place in the office building, and the lady got stuck in the elevator, and you thought she was going to get her head chopped off, but then she kind of got saved. And then the elevator goes up real fast, and her head comes off. Oh, yeah. I thought that was kind of cool. And I really liked a lot of the, you know,

I like the graphics in that part of it. But I don't know, to me, it kind of felt like, once they started showing the zombies and shit, I just thought it looked like a bunch of actors wearing pancake makeup. I thought they were really, you know, I mean, I guess I've been spoiled on, you know, because this was 2002, this was like, what,

seven or eight years before we even got the Walking Dead. But still, man, if you don't have the technology to do it, then don't do it. Well, and the CGI, as somebody else brought up, was just fucking horrible. I mean, terrible, man. And some of the CGI in the new movie wasn't the best, but it got a lot better, I thought. And this one I thought, in my opinion,

this movie just kind of got a little bit worse as it went on. I love seeing Michelle Rodriguez. I love seeing the dude from the following. What's that actor's name? I can't think of the guy's name right now. The one that ended up being kind of the asshole that gave him all up.

Oh, that guy. James Purfoy. Yeah, I was surprised to see him. I didn't remember him having been in this. Oh, that guy falls under my stupid people. Oh, man. All right, well, go into it, man. We'll play the meet.

I'll play the music for that in a few weeks. That's it, boo. That's it boo. I'm sorry for hijacking your review, but why would you do, why would you release a virus? I'd never understood why he did that. Right. Well, and I think we'll get into that a little later as well. But yeah, I kind of had the same question.

Like the whole time, I was like, why is this happening? I don't understand. I'm sorry. It just popped in my head. Why did you do that? You're right. Didn't he explain why he did it? Yeah, he kind of...

What was the reason you got, Kevin? I want to say he did it for money. Somebody paid him to do it. Man, you'd have to pay me a lot of fucking money to release a virus. Well, I mean, I think he was just trying to release it in the hive to kill them. Was that what it was?

That's what I got, but I'm not... I could be wrong. Well, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't want to go into the new movie, but I think it kind of gets explained in the new movie, but at the same time, it still doesn't make sense. Yeah.

That you would do it for money. I don't know how much. We'll get to it when you get into the spoilers for the movie that came six movies fucking later. Yeah. Where are you going to spend this money at? Exactly. Well, I mean, I definitely, again, I liked a lot of the actors that were in it.

I didn't think any of them gave like a stellar performance. I thought Milo Jovovich was good. this Eric may be a sky everything I see him and I think he's a douchebag I mean he was in ugly Betty and he's been in a couple other things that that AJ's watched a bunch of chick flicks and stuff I mean who was he he was kind of like the main guy that helped her out the dude that was sort of like was he Chris well he's the one at first didn't they handcuff him because they thought maybe he was oh various things oh the the chick's brother

is that one else okay see I didn't even catch that Like the The Yeah, the The chick that Amila was Was working with Okay She died in the hive

Um Yeah, that was her brother He was like a cop That just transferred there To Raccoon City His name was Matt Okay, yeah, he's in the game then I think I remember him

Being in the game or something But I did like The scene that stuck out for me Was of course the hallway With the lasers Right That was fantastic I thought the Red Queen

Was creepy as hell being a little British girl. And then, of course, I really like the way they explained her story later on in the series. Again, six movies later. Yeah, well, but I mean, I'll put it to you this way. I did not

leave thinking this was like a great movie. I just thought that the CGI was just too fucking terrible. I just thought that if they had had a bigger budget, they could have done a lot more with it. It was just my opinion. And I just thought the zombie makeup was terrible.

I thought they were in some situations where, you know, I mean, there's no fucking way these people wouldn't have gotten bit. You know, like the guy that gets thrown down into 16 million zombies, he comes out without a bite on him. You know, get me a break. How is he so alive? Yeah, it's just not just not my cup of tea. I mean, who else, who wants to go next, say anything else about it? Because I think, oh, you haven't even gone yet. I think it's just me left, yeah.

Man, I kind of, see, I kind of felt that way when it first came out because I was a big fan of the game. and video game movies are, I don't know if you guys know this or not, not historically awesome. So when this one came out, I had a little skepticism in it. And I saw it, you know, it kind of fell middle of the road. I felt like they had some cool death scenes, which is sort of what they were going for, I felt like, in most of the whole movie. So it was worth watching, and it's one that I had to see. but it wasn't one that was like I was in love with. Going back and rewatching it now, though,

I forgot A, how beautiful Milo Jovovich is. Holy crap, dude, she's gorgeous. Like, I don't know. She was never really my thing when I was younger. You know what? I actually think she's gotten hotter by the final chapter. Maybe, man. She's really pretty.

She's a milf. Yeah. And I like her, like red dress, biker shorts. Oh, yeah. Leather jacket, kicking ass thing that she does in this movie. I thought that was super cool. So while some of it was cheesy, the special effects, and, yeah, definitely the CGI. I hate it.

Oh, man. There was that, like, 10-year span where CGI was just fucking terrible, and they used it in every movie, and it irritated the shit out of me. And this is no different, because it's right at the beginning of that. And aside from that, though, I think it was a fun movie. Like you said, you know, maybe they could have done a lot more with it with a bigger budget, or maybe if it had come out later, you know, where they were a little more advanced in their CGI stuff. But again, you know, I mean, if you can't, if you haven't perfected that technique, then just use practical effects. Maybe it's a little more expensive, but man, it's going to make a way better movie.

yeah yeah Kevin I think you're I think you you're always telling us I know you've told us more than once don't judge don't judge an older movie by the graphics necessarily but judge it more by like the story and the acting right

yeah I mean but special effects wise I mean I just watched this recently and I mean when I when I first saw it in 2002 I was like oh man that was cool but then as we go along with all these other movies and how the CGI just gets better and better every month. This one, yeah, I mean, I agree with the, I mean, even the practical effects, like the makeup

for the zombies, it just, it's, it's, hmm, it wasn't good. I mean, a lot of the 80s zombie movies, I mean, that make a better, some of it was, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it, some of it was shit, but a lot of it was good. And, like, I figured, well, hire some of those guys to come in and make it look, look, look good in this. I mean, especially the CGI-looking zombies

where, like, part of their faces were missing. I mean, it looked horrible. But, I mean, it's only, like, seconds that it's on the screen, but, I mean, just like, yeah, bigger budget. I think they could have hired maybe a more,

a better crew to do it. But, I mean, here we are talking about it should be better when none of us don't make movies or anything. Good point. And also, Another side note, I think that the storyline was super jumbled. It still doesn't really make sense to me going back and watching it. None of them really do except this last one.

It's like they make it too complicated and you're like, but wait, wasn't that, I fuck it, their shit blowing up. Yeah, I actually, for this episode, I actually went through the whole series. Of course you did. it's jumbled it's yeah to say the least that's why when we get when we get to spoilers with the new one

I want to bring something up because I was just like yeah I was just like huh well Kevin Kevin you're going to give it a pretty pretty good score right yeah well hold one more thing real quick with this movie

I've noticed that it borrowed a lot of uh scenes from there was a well not a lot of scenes but a few scenes there was a movie that came out in 1980 called night of the zombies it's called hell of the living dead if you're trying to trying to look for it i don't know why they changed i don't know why they changed the title um but when i saw it in the movie theater was called night of the zombies uh it was kind of almost like a rip off of dawn of the dead not so much being in the mall

it was a um a swat crew it was an italian horror movie it was a swat all right a swat team went into uh try to save these people in this like village and then they ended up into like a um like a boiler room factory type of place and some of okay okay some of the uh the imagery uh from nine of the zombies it looks like uh the people of resident evil maybe they went back and started watching all kinds of crazy zombie movies and sure and it was almost like not so shot for shot but maybe like scene for scene uh of some of that that they put it in this one. Maybe they were just trying to just pay homage to the old zombie movies before.

But, I mean, that's what I noticed at the very first time I seen it because I love all those 80s Italian zombie movies they did. And when I first saw this, and I was, I was sitting there with my buddy of mine, he watches all that crazy shit that I watched too. And I was like, hey man, this was like, man, this was like none of the zombies. He goes, that's what

I was thinking. So, but it was cool. I liked how they did that. And I think this is the only one that was really much like a zombie. movie because like when we get into the other ones we got all these other crazy things like Nemesis and all that coming after Alice and her crew. But

bottom line, I love this movie and if we're going to go right into ratings with this, I would give it a eight. Oh wow. Wow. Man, that's that's high marks, man. Yeah. Mainly because of Michelle. There you go. Yeah, man. Yes, she's got to be worth something

right there, huh? I think I went next. I'm going to give it a 7.5. Wow. Mela, I give it for Mila. Yeah. Definite ass kicker. Right.

The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, GGI was horrible. I, I kind of don't agree with the, with the makeup. I think, uh, for the overall, like, background zombies, I think it was, that that was kind of horrible, but, like, right. For example, uh, Michelle, Michelle, Michelle Rodriguez, when she turned, I thought her makeup was on point, was really good. Yeah. So, yeah, I give it a 7.5.

It is definitely my favorite out of all of them. Yeah, like I said, I'm kind of going the opposite way, guys. I'm going to give it a three. Ouch. I'm going to give it a three, man. So I give one point for Milla, one point for the hallway scene with the lasers, and, of course, one point for Michelle. And that's about it. What about you, Phil?

Man, going back and watching it, I think I'm going to give it a six and a half. I think, like, I kind of want to push it to seven, but the story doesn't make any sense. But they kill people in a lot of cool ways. That is true. That was fun. It was definitely a fun movie. Don't pay too much attention to the story because it doesn't really matter. And it's like, whose line is it anyway?

Or the points don't really matter. All right. So you guys ready to move on to the final chapter? Let's do it. And this time we won't forget to give our scores before we go into spoilers. Oh, right. All right. Director and writer, again, this name's familiar.

Paul W.S. Anderson. Where have I heard that before? Who did I got? So this is actually, I think we have reviewed more of his films than anybody else for the podcast. Yeah, because we did Event Horizon. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. So anyway, we know that we're starting to learn about this guy a little bit,

so you can probably guess I may not give you this one the best rating based on my ratings on the other two. So I guess we'll just have to see. Anyway, trivia, a number of YouTubers, I thought this was really cool, actually. They say YouTubers, I guess they're guys that had their own podcast or their own YouTube channels, but they happen to be in Cape Town, South Africa for a convention. They were given a chance to appear in sequences, but the film is zombies. That's pretty cool. Wow.

Well, they had a whole horde of zombies running the whole time behind them. Well, for sure. The film was originally slated to start filming in fall 2013 for a September 12th, 2014 release date, but was canceled for a 2016 release instead. The reason for the film delay was due to the series star Milojovich becoming pregnant with their second child. Could have been hard to do some of those six. stunts. Yeah, a little.

She lost some baby weight fast, huh? Big time. Ricardo Cornelius was a crew member on the film shoot in South Africa when he was standing there a Humvee that was located on a rotating platform. Apparently, the Humvee was not properly secured, and it slid off the platform. According to deadline, when this happened, it pinned Cornelius against a wall. Pretty gruesome, huh? And crushed him.

Yeah. I always try to find a gruesome piece of trivia, you know? Until you hear about how many idiots fall asleep underneath Humvees and roll off in the morning and kill them. The crew member was rushed to the hospital and placed on life support, but he did pass away a few hours later. So there's your gruesome trivia of the week. All right, Kevin.

How does this one stack up, man? Before. Didn't someone else die making one of the other ones? I was just thinking that I think somebody one of the other resident even one, I think someone did die. Somebody got, somebody got scout.

I think like, yeah, well, I think they were doing something with the like with a motorcycle and they there was a like a something, a light or something kind of fell broken and then

whoever it was rode on. I think it was one of the Resident Evil movies rode under it super fast and it like scalped them. I don't know if it killed them or not, but I remember somebody got hurt on one of the other movies. Brandon Lee came out of the sky and whooped his ass.

Dang. He's got cursed. But this movie, man, I enjoyed it. I have some stuff to say during the spoilers. But for what it was, I mean, it was just to me,

I mean, I loved all of them. It was just as good as the other ones. I mean, all the action and everything. I was loved that there was more zombie action than this one. And I think one of the other main things I loved about it, but she wasn't in it very long was Ruby Rose. She was the character, Abigail. I didn't even know she was in this because I had just seen her.

I had just seen her in that new triple X movie. Yeah, I was going to ask you, how was she in that? Because it seems like they're pushing her to be like an action star. because she's going to be in a John Wick. Oh, yeah. Oh, damn. She was badass in that. I mean, she was on that show, Orange is the New Black,

and she was kind of the bitch that was trying to butt in on Piper's business, her underwear business. Right. I was kind of like, in other words. Wow. I was kind of like, I don't like this chick, man. But then, I mean, I always thought she was hot, and I loved all her tattoo. I think one of the main reasons I love her is

she's got a tattoo of Leonardo, the Ninja Turtle, and he's my favorite. So it's real. So, but yeah, in Triple X, in Triple X, she was badass in that. And I'm hoping she kicked, I was shocked that she was in this. I was like, oh, sweet, there's Ruby Rose.

And she was in it, but there wasn't much of her. But I'm hoping that she kicks ass like more in John Wick, too. Yeah, it looks like in the trailer She got a fight scene with John Wick Yeah, I mean, I think she can act She can play the role She can be the bitch She can be the person that kicks ass

And I mean, she looks hot And putting guns in her hands It just makes her hotter So She can be a mean bond chick Yeah, that's I didn't even thought about that Oh, the other thing about Ruby Rose

In this movie is They She must have had those slings sleeves on or something worth because none of her tattoos were on her. She's pretty much like all over her neck, all over her arms. And then she was running around on a tank top

and she didn't have no tattoos. So I'm sure they just, I don't know. They just erased them all. But the movie was good. I liked it. I mean, I enjoyed it just as much as the other ones. And it was the same, pretty much all the same stuff. But I can get into a little more during spoilers.

But for what it was, I did enjoy this movie. and I don't know where I would put it if I'm ranking all of them. It was good. I love this movie. Brian? I enjoyed it. I like how they just went straight into the action.

Yeah. There is a few plot points that go back to other movies that I was kind of, I don't know if they recognized that they kind of made a mistake on or they just said, fuck it,

and this is what it is, or, but we'll get in that in the spoilers, but, Mel is kicking ass again. She doesn't get a lot of taxes. I like the,

there was more zombies in this. Yeah. But I can't stand, what's her name? Ali Larder and her fucking, and her fucking teeth. And her fucking teeth, man. I can't.

I don't. I've never, Her overbite? Overbite. I've always liked her. That's all you see is her upper teeth. Every time I think about her is her upper teeth. I've never had a problem with her.

I think she's got a unique look. And I'm not a guy that likes blonde. But I always felt like they try to make it seem like she's Alice's equal in these movies. Oh, yeah, that's true. I don't. And because they always play off Alice is special. Well, because she plays Claire. I think Claire was in the original game.

I think I want to say she was one of the the stars team people. Yeah, I think she was one of the, she was, if she wasn't in the first one, she was definitely in the second one. I'm pretty sure she was in the first one, because I remember when she popped up in the second movie and I was really excited. I was like, oh, okay, well, this is who is supposed to be in the movie. Oh, she's been around as long as the second movie, huh? Yeah. Oh, okay. I think.

Yeah, I also like Ruby Rose. You know, I'm hoping she's going to be badass. John Wick too. And I also don't know where I would rank this one. I really enjoyed it. I thought the action was fast-paced. They did a better job on the CGI. Understatement, man.

Yeah. But I really enjoyed it. That's pretty, I just, yeah, that's pretty much what I got to say, because I want to get to spoilers. Right. Well, surprise, surprise, guys. I fucking love this movie. Wow.

I fucking loved it. From the very beginning, it was just so goddamn much action in it. And I thought that the special effects were like head and shoulders above the other. And I really loved the scenes where they were in the tanks, and they made her walk behind the tank or run behind the tank, and all those fucking hordes of zombies were going around her, and she was having a fucking kick-ass and run and be handcuffed to the tank at the same time.

I love the way they tied all the story together. I thought everything by the end of it made sense. I thought it was a lot more linear than the first one was. I thought they wrapped everything up. I love the way that they used. Okay, spoilers, we'll wait for that. But they used, you know, maybe one particular person played a few different roles. We'll just say that.

I thought that was pretty neat the way that they did that. So I don't know, man. I just thought this was a roller coaster of a ride now. it might have helped that I saw it in the movie theater. You know, that always adds something to it because the original one I think I'd only seen on TV. But I just found this thing to be fucking head and shoulders above the rest.

This was the movie that I wanted from the first one. And granted, I haven't seen any of the ones in between. But if there are anything like this one, then I'm going to go back and watch them. Because I had a fucking hell of a time at the movie with this one. Nice. Yeah, I think that the ones in between, are probably a little more like the first one to me,

where they're fun action, they've got a lot of good stuff, and they always suck you in. But there's nothing memorable, really, about him or about the storyline, because the storyline doesn't make any sense. Zombie crows. That's how I've got to say. They're fun to watch.

There's a lot of action blowing shit up. And in this one, they had the, okay, that big demon fucking zombie. with like the bugs legs and shit that was so gross looking it was freaking me out yeah they had some cool this has to be how pitch black started

I think you know right so uh I I I liked it man it was it was a lot of fun action not a ton of substance but the the storyline was simple that's what I liked about it yeah it was it was it was like you said very linear

they cleaned up the whole white this happen situation. And it's like they finally made a movie that made sense. I was digging the crazy ugly mutants. They even had their random Asian bad guy who happened to be a martial artist. You know, and it goes back to the video game stuff where you've got your invincible hero where you never really worry that she's going to die throughout the whole movie. movie. So that's kind of a double-edged sword. Sometimes it's cool, sometimes it's bad. If you, if you, if you like that walking dead world where, uh, where everybody has a chance to be dead in the next episode, um, this one may not be for you. But if you like the invincible hero that kicks ass, there you go. There you go.

Uh, guys ready for ratings? Uh, yeah, I think so. Kevin. yeah um one more thing what i liked about this one was in the very beginning it started where the last one ended with that whole uh the aftermath of the battle in washington dc and when she comes crawling up in the beginning of this one she comes crawling up out of that manhole or whatever it was okay it was all just ruined and and everyone was gone and everything i mean i love that because some of them didn't start where the other movies left off um but man that that was cool i think that was one of the one of the key points of the movie that that I enjoyed. I mean, and as far as wrapping up everything, I mean, about the movies before,

they kind of left more questions. Whoa, what about this and what about that? But I don't know. But before it all, this movie does wrap up a lot of that stuff. But as far as a rating, I think I'm going to give this one a seven. I mean, it was good. I loved it. I mean, if Michelle was in it, I'd give it a higher rating.

Couldn't hurt. I mean, yeah, seven is what I'm going to go with. Not too bad, yeah. Not bad at all. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm also going to give a seven. It, to me, was from start to finish, straight action. There's a few plot points that don't add up to me.

That's why I'm only giving in a seven. And I'd rather have Michelle Rodriguez than Allie Larder. fucking Allie Lauder Any day of the week, huh? I like Al-Larader, but Michelle Rodriguez is a badass. I'd definitely rather have her. I would believe Michelle Rodriguez kicking ass the way they had Allie Larder.

I don't know. I just never, she wasn't even my favorite character on Heroes when that show was out. She doesn't really come off as a tough chick. No, she comes off how she was. in, what was it, varsity blues. That's how she comes off to me.

That's what I was going to say. You didn't like her in that with the whipped cream? Yeah, I liked her in that. Her best role ever. I also liked her in those first two, what the hell were those movies when they were cheating death. Oh, Final Destination. Yeah, I like her in those two.

Yeah, she was pretty good in that. I'll give her that. I got no, I'm looking at a number of, now we're looking at pictures of her. I got no problems with her, guys. If I didn't even make it pictures of her. No problem of it at all, man. Overbite or not? So would you give it a seven, Brian?

Yeah, I gave it a seven. All right. All right, cool. Well, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to go a little higher, guys. I'm giving it a seven and a half. Wow. Yeah, I really, like I said, man, is like just getting on a roller coaster in the first two minutes of the movie and just never getting off.

And I really fucking appreciated that. I love the fact that they brought a lot of characters back. They tied up a lot of loose ends. I just thought it was a well-done film from start to finish. I really had fun. A lot of fun. In fact, I want to go see it again in 3D now. That'd be kind of fun, man, especially with that big creepy demon with the bug arms, man.

This one is cool to see in the theaters. Go check it out. You know, I think I'm going to give it a... I'm going to go with the other guys. I think it was a little bit better than the first one for me. The rest of the movies in the middle will kind of fall underneath somewhere. Because it's like a lot of those action movies

where you watch them and you don't really remember what happened the next day. Like when you said that she got up out of the chaos from the last movie, well, I don't remember that. I know I saw the last movie, but I couldn't tell you what happened in it. And this one, I feel. like was a little more memorable.

Maybe because I just saw it. But I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. I was more impressed than I expected to be. Cool. Well, yeah, I was just so pleasantly surprised with this. Guys, after the first one, I just can't say enough about it. You guys want to spoil?

A spoil. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right.

Who's going first? I just want to get right into the origin of the Red Queen. Oh, okay. It had a completely different origin in the second movie, I believe it was. And the girl and the father were actually in, the second movie right i thought they were okay so i was i was really confused and um that that really just and i believe they changed the name the actual name of the girl too really i'm not yeah that took you out of it a little bit then huh so yeah a little bit acted like

the second movie didn't exist right yeah a little bit and the other thing i kind of had a problem was this really the final chapter that didn't look like it at the end, I know. I kind of had an issue with that, too. It's always about the ending. You know, you got to do something good to end it. And it's kind of hard to wrap it up sometimes. And you can, you can rule the good song by fucking up that very last quarter, you know. Yeah, I kind of, this, go ahead. This is what I got when you see Resident Evil, the final chapter. What I got out of it, the final chapter of the T-virus. Was it, was it T-virus? Was that? it was. It was the final chapter of that because once they released that the antivirus and it killed everything within the vicinity of where they broke it open. But then later at the end of the movie, she said it's still going to take a few years for it to reach every inch of the earth. So I think it was only the final chapter for the T virus. I mean,

that's what I got. That's what I got out of it. And one more thing. How did Claire make it out of there when it exploded? Because last, I remember, she was sitting there, not doing anything, and it exploded. She got up and ran away. Oh, okay. She had to run really fast, huh?

What was the little queen's name in this final chapter? Let me look at it real quick. Was it Angie? Young Alicia. Angie was the name of the little girl in the second one.

Yes. Okay, they changed it. it then. Well, obviously the little girl in the second one was not the same person they were talking about in this movie. You don't think so? Yeah, but I mean, did you see the second one? Yeah, but it's

been a long time. I don't specifically remember it. I mean, yeah, they acted like it was the same person, but like, yeah, that's a pretty major plot. Because, obviously in this one, the young Alice would have had to have been, like, where they

originated the Red Queen from, was a hell of a lot longer than 10 years ago because... Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because Alicia was super fucking old in this movie. Yeah, she had that disease that aged her quickly, remember?

Oh, is that what it was? So that they got around that one. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, the whole T-virus started that long ago. I feel like, I feel like that she should have been a little girl a long time before that,

and that's when they started developing this computer system or whatever. That's what it felt like to me. Right. So to say that the little girl was in the second, a movie as a little girl doesn't make any sense to me. Hmm. All right.

What do you guys think about that? I don't think that the Little Red Queen was actually, in the first movie, they kind of said that he based it on his daughter. He didn't actually say it was his daughter, Angie. So, I mean, that's what I'm figuring about that, because. In the first movie, it was like the little hologram, little Red Queen, was a lot younger. And speaking of that, CGI-wise, that one looked horrible. This one looked actually better because I think they really used a real little girl instead of a computer-generated one. Yeah, this looks really cool, man.

She was very pretty. She looked like a very, very young Milojovich. Yeah, I mean, I think that's how they got around that. That it was just, he based the Red Queen on his daughter. It wasn't actually his daughter. But in this one, it looked exactly like his daughter. So I don't know. Maybe he just took her image and changed her name.

Well, was Alicia Marcus not his daughter? No, his daughter was Angie. According to the second movie or according to this movie? It sounded like according to the second one. And the second movie, her name was Angie Ashford. But what was this one? wasn't, I felt like that was, that was it. That was Alicia.

Yeah, I mean, because that's why they started out the whole first scene of the movie with the dude and his daughter. And this one, it was called, it just called her Alicia and the Red Queen. So I don't, I don't know what they're doing here. I mean, I don't know. I mean, they may have retconned a little bit, you know? Yeah. Like they said, well, that, that storyline didn't work out too well, so let's just fucking rewrite it. It didn't make any sense anyway.

Nobody remembers it. We'll just skip over. that part. Here's the thing. I've only seen the first one and this one, so maybe I enjoyed this one more than you guys, because I didn't get bothered by, you know, the fact that they went and changed something, you know? Well, I don't remember any of the storyline from any of the others, because they didn't make any sense. What did you guys think about the, what did you guys think about the clone, uh, Dr. Mormont or whatever his name is in here, Dr. Isaac's, the clones of him or the different, the different versions? How fucking

cool was that? Did you guys see that coming? Was that like Hennon and the other movies or what? I actually like that they explained that because I was throughout the series, I'm like, you always try to figure out, I thought this person died. Right. And they would show up in the next movie and they would never explain it. So I kind of, I like how they threw that in there that basically the upper umbrella executives were all clone or some of them were cloned or whatever and the originals were

in cryo chambers or whatever. Right. Yeah, I like that whole In general, the writers should probably watch the other movies before they decided to write a new one. I mean, with all the clones, well, the clone, the clone Alice, I assume, where it's for those now? But yeah, so she was a clone right from the get-go, right?

Right. Yes. Okay, because she... That's what they talked about in this movie. That's when she was first created was in the mansion in the first movie. Yeah, they said she would, what was her name, Angie? Alice.

No, the original, the older one. Alicia. Alicia. Yeah, she, basically Alice was the woman that she was, she would have never had a chance to be. Right. Because she had this degenerative wheelchair disease. Yes. That's what I call them.

Okay, I'm just, I'm just now putting this together. The Red Queen Alicia was, the old Alicia in the wheelchair, right? Yeah. So, okay. I'm just now getting that. I'm like, fuck.

Now I need to see it again. But. I know. I want to watch it again too because I'm, well, wait a minute. Now that you said that they explained it in the second movie, I got to go back and watch that one because that doesn't make any sense. I mean,

I like that they kind of did their homework with trying to wrap this all up and that Alice was a clone the entire series. I kind of figured that out right when they had that that meeting meeting of the minds with everything and they showed that lady. They just showed the back of her head sitting there.

Yeah, I knew something was going on there. There was a reason they were only showing the back of her head, you know? As soon as she spoke, I went off. That's Mila. You got that, huh? Yeah, and then when I was thinking, because all the previous movies that was, I don't know, which one it was. It was like a million clones of her

and all that. And I was just sitting there thinking, please don't tell me she's a clone. And that's what it turned out to be. I mean, I, I mean, it was cool. I mean, I was all for it and I was shocked that she was a clone this whole time. But

yeah, yeah, man, I need to go see this again. And now that we're talking about it. Hey, what did you, what did you guys think about the battle sequences in Raccoon City when the tanks were showing up and they were, they were fucking basically killing everybody that were using human shields

that was really awesome. Two towers-esque man. I really enjoyed that part of it. Yeah, they had some serious epic battle scenes going. Although they could have picked a better spot than right on the top of a tall building that they could have just blown up and everybody fucking fell to their death.

Yeah, there's not too many places to run and hide. Especially when you got a tank with rocket launchers and and a horde of zombies behind it. Yeah, I thought that was some of the best scenes, though. Like, I mean, that's what really brought me between that.

It was just an action movie. Yeah, the horde. I love the hordes following behind the tanks. I love the way that she fucked that guy up and then made him start walking behind the tank. I thought that was fucking hilarious. I love the battle sequences once they got there. What did you guys think about when they,

when they showed all the I guess like what they call them like the original founding fathers of I'm mixing it up with the purge or whatever but all those guys that were like in stasis to be reawaping later after all the rest of the the planet got killed off

I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. They are severely lacking in their safety OSHA hazard thing in that fucking building man. Who has a goddamn elevator that just shoots through and there's no rails or anything.

Okay, I mean, so that was what the hive was. It was just actually holding all those people in there this whole time, even from the first movie? Sounds like it, yeah. Or did they all go into it right when all hell broke loose during the first movie? Or were they always in there? They knew it was coming, man. They set everything in motion.

I kind of feel like. So are they... To watch this movie and you kind of have to forget about the middle movies. Like the first movie and this one, that's it. Were they just trying to start their own superior race by wiping out everyone with the T-virus and then them coming out? Yeah, don't you remember, you guys remember that little speech somebody gave about... I forget what it was it, Dr. Isaac said, look, here's the problem. overpopulation, global warming, lack of water.

This planet's not going to sustain us forever. So, of course, you know, they take the lazy way out instead of actually putting money into the space program and getting us like we should be doing now out to other planets where we can colonize and actually keep the human race going in that direction. Or we could stop destroying our own shit. That would be pretty awesome. Yeah, but I mean, their solution is to just fucking kill everybody off except them and their immediate families. Yeah, that's kind of the opposite.

story. This is an old story. I've seen this in, I've read this in a lot of books and seen it in plenty of movies, but I just thought they, I thought they presented it really well. I thought it was really cool. So we should kill everybody. That's the way it's going.

Yeah, it seems that way, man. But there was something else I wanted to say about this movie. I just, oh man, I forgot. There's a lot in here, man. There's a lot in this movie. And I'm glad that we had this spoiler discussion because Brian kind of opened my eyes and I was like, oh, wow.

So I think you have to watch it as a standalone movie for it to be as good, you know. And you have to still expect what you should expect from a Resident Evil movie. It's just fun action, you know, you're not going to get the most complicated potline that, is really going to make a whole lot of sense. Even though I feel like this made a whole lot more sense than the other movies. Yeah, now I got stuff coming back to my mind. Yeah. Kevin, you remember the one before, right?

The one right before it? Yeah. What was that? Retribution or? Yeah. What happened to her daughter? Oh. Um.

Oh, no. Man, I don't know, dude. Yeah. Oh, dude. I don't remember. Because I watched these and then I watched the underworld ones after. Right.

I don't remember. See, with the underworld, I think Resident Evil had better action. But I felt like Underworld had a better story. It was more consistent. That was put that on the sound bite for the headline of the show right there

Oh, this is what I wanted to say Um Uh, what's her face Claire, uh, Allie Larder They were They were already in that They were already in that building

And how long of it How long, like It could have been days, weeks, maybe months Before um, Alice found them because after she crawled out of Washington, D.C. out of the manhole, these people were, um, Claire and all them were already at that building. Still hold up in Raccoon City or outside of it or whatever.

Well, how long were they there? I mean, because did they just happen to get there? And all those, there was already people there that built that big barricade around the whole thing because they had like a drawbridge and that old. Oh yeah, they had it all set up. Yeah. So I want to know, did they already get to that? people already made it or did they get there and make it? Because I want to know what was the time span between all that. I think she said she was found by the one guy that was supposed to be like her boyfriend. Who ended up being the bad guy?

Yeah. Yeah, like you didn't see that one coming. Well, and here's one that irritated me too. When they were having that whole big war scene battle and they let that survivor go and run towards the little castle area that head going and she's like lower the drawbridge and grab her like are you fucking serious yeah person you're gonna destroy your entire city i'm sorry dude leave no man behind goes out the window when it comes to situations like that just be realistic you can't be the good guy all the time i actually i actually thought that was going to go differently i thought it was too yeah that she was

she was going to get in and they were going to close the door but she was going to like double cross them somehow. See, I thought so too, but either way it was a stupid move. There's no situation where that was the smart thing to do. I liked how they got a little medieval with the gasoline dumping it down inside the building. That was cool, man. I thought that was awesome. Put it in the catapult. That too. Another thing, man, since they came rolling up on them with the tanks that had the cannons, why shoot at the roof when you could have shot the center of the building and just brought the whole thing down? Yeah, no kidding.

Right. But then there would be no movie. Yeah, you're putting a little too much logic behind a zombie movie. All right, guys. Well, any last minute things anybody wants to cover? I think we pretty much covered it. Yeah, and I think I still stick with my scoring. As far as a standalone movie goes, but although that glaringly obvious fucking plot hole that is the girl in the wheelchair is irritating the shit out of me now.

Oh, no, you're going to have to go back and see that. Yeah, I got to go back and watch the second one and figure it out. I'll tell you one thing. Like I said, I definitely want to go see this one in the theater again in 3D this time. That'd be cool. This is one I think is worth seeing in 3D. Yeah. No, it wasn't.

It wasn't worth it. No, uh-uh. That sucks. Like I saw, hey, wait a minute. You know what, in all fairness, Kevin, we are in spoilers now. So I guess I had that one coming. I saw it in IMAX 3D and it didn't. The 3D didn't do anything.

The only one that you needed to see in 3D was that very first one they did. It was afterlife. That one was the first one when 3D was starting to come back and get big again. That one was really good at 3D because they knew it was going to be a 3D movie. I believe they used a 3D camera. and it looked really good. After that, I think the rest of them were just converted. And this one was, this was a conversion, a 3D conversion.

And it wasn't very good. It didn't add anything to it. It should have with all these special effects they had, especially with that thing flying around. Right. That's what I was thinking. That big, ugly thing flying around would look cool in 3D. Yeah, 3D didn't do anything.

It didn't make it that much more awesome. I mean, just regular was good. That's leaving, man. that whole 3D thing, I don't think it's going to stick around. Yeah, I mean, same thing. It went back to Rope 1. I mean, the 3D and that didn't bring anything to it. I mean, I have a big problem with these conversion, these converted 3D movies.

I mean, they have these 3D cameras, and I'm sure they're pretty expensive to use, but if you're going to make a 3D movie, use those cameras. And I want the old school style of 3D cameras. 3D filmmaking to where it is cheesy and stupid and a lot of people don't like it. Right. When you're making a 3D movie and everything's coming at you. Not so much the point of, hey, man, what's over here? And then some guy's pointing your finger into the camera.

Not that cheesy. Not that cheesy 80 style. But like hatchet style where they're throwing shit at the screen. Yeah, I mean, make it look good. I mean, they know they obviously only get made. put these movies out in 3D because it attacks on a few more dollars onto the box office. A lot more dollars, right? Yeah, I think that's the only reason they do that.

I mean, yeah, this movie in 3D didn't bring nothing else to it. It didn't make it that much more badass. I mean, the movie was still good for what it was, but... Right. I'm starting to just... This 3D stuff is just starting to bug me now. Right. All right.

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to you. Check out my little show. I actually have two shows. The Magnus Podcast. You can find me also on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter. Just look up Magnus Podcast. It'll all pop up. I also have another show that I do with the host of that, the Zisu, which is the E-Society. We're on iTunes

and we're also on Podbean. Cool. Just look us up on there. If you're on either Podbean or iTunes, you can look up Skaternes Podcast Network that's SK8 the number 8

NEZ podcast network look all that you'll see it's all one feed so you'll see the two shows East Society

and the Magnus podcast on that but before we go man hey this is awesome dude thank you so much for having me on

again I'm sure everyone's probably sick in hearing me yeah yeah thanks coming back man we love having you

But lightning round Real quick between the four of us What's your favorite zombie movie? Go Lightning round Mine's easy, Dawn of the Dead Walking Dead Dawn of the Dead

I don't care of it's not a movie Original or remake Original Yeah mine too also Original Although the remake that was Zach Snyder wasn't it Yeah that one was pretty badass

That was actually fucking awesome That's my favorite Zach Snyder movie That he's ever done Mine too. But you know what? I really love the movie that he made. I forget the name of it,

but the one with the girls that were in the insane asylum. So much. I love that movie. Everybody fucking hates it so much. I thought it was great. I thought it was good. I liked it. All right.

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reviewing the Ring franchise. So until the horror returns again, good night.