The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #350: The Cabin In The Woods (2011) & Knock At The Cabin (2023)

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

This week, we explore one of the most popular locales in all horror with M Night's newest effort, Knock at the Cabin, as well as the new classic Cabin in the Woods. Cool of the Week includes You People, Something in the Dirt, and Physical 100. We get LOTS of DC Movie news. The podcast spotlight shines on Horror Movie Talk. And we get feedback from Texas Frightmare Weekend, The Psychosemantic Podcast, Matt Wood, and Xim Vader. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you delight and dread who fantasize about fear, who glorify go. Welcome.

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join us in celebrating the old and the new the best and the worst in horror to the horror returns i'm lance and with me as always are my co-host philip and brian what's up guys what's up how's it going huge disappointment this week we were supposed to have matt from the UK. Let's get the last name right. Not Matt Smith. No. Let's get one thing crystal clear. Not Doctor Who. They are not the same person. That's why he's not here. No, that has nothing to do with it. All right. So Matt, we've got Matt Wood. He will be back soon shortly, hopefully in a couple of weeks. But fuck, who knows, he may pop in while. we're talking but in the meantime in between time

boys he's got internet issues in the middle of nowhere UK yes so we were talking about that flag football game going on here in the US what do you guys think of that just the Pro Bowl

yeah just stop it just stop the Pro Bowl an American classic that nobody gives a shit about it's like the it's about to happen I think here in a few weeks. The NBA All-Star weekends. Nobody gives a shit about the dunk contest no more.

Well, okay. Yes, I can see that. I can see that. It's fun to watch them. With the All-Star game, you get your conference gets home field advantage. Maybe they should do something like that. Except that they know what the Super Bowl is going to be,

and nobody really gets home field advantage. Right. Right. So they couldn't do that. Maybe something different. It's got to be some kind of incentive for somebody wanting to not only be in the Pro Bowl, but actually try. Well, and I get that football is a violent game, and so you don't want to get injured on a game that doesn't mean anything. It doesn't have to look like a scrimmage in practice.

Right. Yeah, pretty bad. Pretty bad. Fuck it, dude. I'd like to see them ball out. The best players in the league. once a year could all play together and just tear the field up let them do it oh my god just imagine if tom brady went out like this all right he's playing a pro bowl game they're playing real

rules and he gets this fucking leg ripped off wouldn't that be amazing yeah that might put a stop to it real quick and some shit like that would happen but i mean i otherwise what's the even what's even the point of broadcasting it? Like, the ratings have got to suck, I assume. Yeah, good point. Yeah, but AJ and I were out eating lunch, and I didn't even remember there was a pro bowl until one of the tiny TVs in the restaurant was showing.

I was like, what is this fucking flagged football game going on? I'm like, holy shit. And then the table next to us, they're like, oh, well, that's the NFC versus AFC. And like, okay. I honestly, I didn't even know it was a thing until today. I don't think a lot of people did, Brian.

I thought it was like, I was telling you guys I was on Instagram. I thought it was like one of those Instagram videos of somebody's vacation. And I was like, oh. Yeah. Oh, I thought it was a joke. No, it's real, dude. Unfortunately. They're wearing jerseys and shorts.

Okay. Hi. The actual flag football that I thought it was just some A few NFL players getting together on a weekend Until they flashed the sport. Because there's no dump competition in football, but

Oh, that is the most Horrible thing to watch now Because there's just Why is it so inane now? Why is it so bad, Bernie? It's players that you don't want. I don't want to disrespect the people that are in the dunk contest. I get you want to put the young up-and-comers, but it's never the players you want to see in the dunk contest.

Because realist, like LeBron James, they've been wanting him to be into dunk contests. He makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year. He don't want to be in no dunk contest. He doesn't need the $50,000 prize. Understandable. And on top of that, there's no creativity in it. But what you could use is the damn title for it. You know what I mean?

If it counted for anything. I mean, especially for somebody like him, the money shouldn't matter. Yeah, well, he's at that point in his career, like, we're probably not going to see him a few years from now. Because I think he said he wanted to play on the same team as his son. And they said likely his son will be in the league probably within the next two or three years. So. All right. He'll play one season with him and then retire.

Yeah, so I can see. But then he'll be a money man. I mean, he's going to be there forever. He's going to be a... He's got a lifetime... A Nike Conner or whatever. Yeah. And he's got a movie production company.

He's like a lot of... There's like a lot of TV shows and movies that people don't really know that his production company is like involved in. A lot of behind-the-scenes stuff then. As long as he's not in the fucking movie, because LeBron James sucks as an actor. Well, but think about the jersey sales, too.

I mean, stuff like that. Yeah. You know? I mean, seriously. If he plays his final season with his son, think about the jersey sales. Oh, yeah, that'd be definitely cool. Yeah.

I watch a lot of videos of his son. His son's pretty fucking good. And they said the younger son might be just as good. Oh, wow. Wow. That happens a lot. Definitely a lot better than Jordan's sons because those two guys, or at least one of them was kind of trash. About like Jordan playing baseball, huh?

Probably worse. Okay. Well, at least the Rockets got a couple of championships out of that experiment, Brian. Yeah. That's true. That's not talking about the Rockets. All right. are ready to dive into cooler the week yeah it's still go rockets but just we're not going to talk

about them this year yeah we got next year the next couple of years yeah it could be a while before the saints do anything anyway too boys so yeah we can all cry together philip cowboys were out last last week too yeah man no i i've i've stopped getting my hopes up about those guys yeah got to get always i'm always fan i'm always there out there how bad bad they are. Oh, speaking of the films we're going to cover tonight, DAC has to be the sacrifice.

Throw them in the volcano. That's got to look like Dak, huh? No, it's the Graze Anatomy guy. That's how I got Rose to watch it. Ah, okay. Whatever works. All right. Cool of the week.

Who's first? I can go first. I got, I think I got three movies I watched. Nice. We had a comment about the movie hashtag float that I said I was going to check out. Okay. Every once in a while a movie comes along that just makes us one, makes me wonder why we don't have a production company making movies. Oh, no.

Oh, no. No, the first is, we can fuck it up that bad. The premise is it kind of reminds me in a way of that movie What was it called Fall where they climbed a tower and they get stuck there? Sure, sure. Just the reasoning on why they get up there because in this movie you know how people like go camping and they like take intertubes and just kind of you know float down the river and drink and have fun. Oh, I saw the poster for this movie now I know what you're talking about. Like a group of a group of friends I guess they do this annually like it's their where they all.

get together and go for the weekend. Sure. Like New Bronfels, Philip. Yes. And the year before, one of their friends drowns. Let's go back. Yeah, just like fall. Like, one of our friends falls to his death a year later. Let's go climb something even taller.

And they're going to, you know, spread his ashes in the lake and have, you know, basically try to get back to the way that things are. but weird stuff's happening in the lake and there might be a reason he might have not just drowned on his own you know it might have been something sinister in the lake which you never fucking see ever oh no even and it's fucking stupid there's like the harbinger the old man that comes up to you like don't go to the lake and they're like well

we'll talk about him later you better get out of here you're bum before we kick your ass right after that we're going to go to the lake where you just warned us about it's fucking stupid yikes yikes the only thing i could say was there was some really good shots you can tell the guy he has a good eye especially with the drone shots because and he did the thing that seems to be popular from the past year the upside down rotating oh the midsumar shot yeah okay so i definitely if i would have seen this last year, it would have been at least top

or bottom five, easy. You said top, and I got worried. The acting was bad. The acting was bad. The story was stupid. There was you never, you never see what is this. There's like some kind of evil.

Is this the Nerequian or what? No, I'd rather watch that. I'd rather watch Alicia Silverstone. irritate me. I mean, at least Alicia Silverstone was in it, and it was so bad that it was kind of entertaining. Yeah, okay. Because it was so, it was really bad, though.

So I needed to jump onto the next movie quick, because I just, the movie just, it kind of got to the point where it pissed me off that I was even watching it. So I checked out this new movie, another movie that came out. ended last year called Candyland. Okay. It involves truck stop workers, if you know what I mean. Ouch. This doesn't sound much for promising, Brian. It actually was not bad.

Somebody is kind of killing them one by one and kind of leaving kind of like religious. Oh, no. Stuff like that. Evidence, you know, that basically there's evidence that somebody is like over. religious and they're they're cleansing evil and and there's actually a fucking Baldwin that shows up in here I don't know which one you're not you're not selling me dude well I can't like Skinnamarink you and there's is review of skinnerick and then the next thing you know I'm watching the fucking movie I didn't know what review you watched because we didn't try to sell

anybody on Skinnamarink. Good point. I almost are 100% sure at the end of the reviews saying if you want to watch the movie. Go for it. That's exactly the same thing y'all said with the record and I went and watched that

piece of shit. We tell you want to watch it more. We tell you our feelings on it, but if you dare to watch it, but I actually I actually kind of enjoyed Candy Land.

Okay. So that's your Culu Week? No, not yet. I'm getting it. There was some good kills in Candyland. Don't watch this with the youngsters because you get sex and nudity

like immediately with the subject. And I thought everybody was pretty decent in it. I did not recognize other than I don't know which Baldwin there was. other than everybody else all the actresses I didn't recognize not one of them and I thought they did a pretty good so kind of a low low budget movie you think yeah low budget but made well cool yeah I might check it out is it streaming anywhere

you could say that okay yeah kind of like skinnamarink is on shutter now so ah it's It's official, Philip. It's officially pissing people off because I see a lot of people like, who said this movie was good? Well. See, now I'm tempted to watch it, and I'm going to have to at some point for the... Okay. It'll probably be at the end of the year when I'm trying to get my list. For you, it'll probably be like Slender Man.

You'll probably follow sleep to it, listening to it. I fell in a fucking sleep during that one. Why not? Better than the X, right? seriously took a fantastic nap during Slyner Man I guess am I cool of the week I'm going to go with

Aaron Moorhead and Justin Benson's new movie Something in the Dirt Ah okay Kate Pollock hated it I actually She fucking She dissed it big time

On a shout out to our Our show, Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotless Minds that Matt is a part of that couldn't join us tonight, but she hated it. I didn't hate it. I actually, I actually dug it. It's, if you're going into this movie. No pun intended, Brian? Yeah, no pun intended.

If you're going into this movie thinking there's a lot of shit that's about to just drop on you, then it's not for you. It's a slow burn. It's a movie about these two, this guy moves into a, an apartment complex and a weird phenomenon happens in his apartment and he tells his neighbor who comes up to his apartment and it happens again

and they witness it and the neighbor he's kind of like we need to document this we can put this on YouTube where we can turn it into a documentary and sell it because at first they think it's like some paranormal stuff but then they kind of thinking it might be some

alien phenomenon happening. Okay. That looks. And I think the interesting part is throughout the movie, they're kind of going back and forth. Like a Chinese weather balloon, Philip. They kind of go back and forth on what they think it is. And they're kind of dropping all these kind of theories. And they're theories that you've read about. Like people's theories on like people that, you know, what do they call them?

People that, like, worship, like, numbers. like people think that numbers mean something. Oh, God, like that terrible Jim Carrey movie? Yeah. No, not like that. Okay. Numerology or? Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, I don't know. Okay. They get into a lot of UFO or I don't even know, whatever you call it now, theories and stuff like that. And it's actually pretty interesting. It's definitely a slow burn, not a lot of. of stuff happens, but it's just to me, I just liked how they were kind of arguing back and forth

from what they thought it was, and they were using real life theories that people come up with, and this is pretty interesting. It's kind of movies, like when you hear the stuff they're talking about, after the movie, you kind of go look it up. Like, I've heard of, kind of like the

Illuminati or something like that, where yeah, there is some real, you know, lore to that, basically. Well, and there's definitely some like sacred numbers that are used just in math in general, you know, especially with rotational stuff. And involved quite a bit in the pyramids.

Yeah. Fun thing. I can't remember now if they might have brought up the pyramids or something. I'm sure they did. It sounds like a thing that they would do for sure. And then you kind of also with the characters like they're trying to figure because they don't really know each other

they just met and it seems like each person is kind of hiding something about who they are or the reasons why they want to do this or maybe they'll mention something and then a guy will

find a piece of paper like a piece of mail or something that he just happens to find and he was like well what is this you said this happened to you but this is telling me something and you know and it's kind of

I'm in I'm in that this sounds interesting and I love this direct now I'm going to say if you like like Kate

if you said you fucking hated it I can honestly say I understand why but just for me with with the information

they were given back and forth it just kind of made me want to go look it up and I just I thought it was interesting

I don't I don't think it's their best movie sometimes shit It sounds crazy and it's real. But they definitely are a couple of intelligent, interesting directors with the movies they make

because there's a lot of deeper meanings and stuff going on in their movies that you kind of really probably should watch their movies like more than once to really fully understand what's going on. Yeah, I mean, they had like one of the best possible time travel theories I could think of, right? like where there's these loops that are geographical, that you go get in this loop and you get in a time loop?

The endless? Yes, yes. For sure. So they got both kind of situation? What was that? Like a Bermuda Triangle kind of situation? Yeah. Okay.

And I actually, I know a lot of people didn't really like it as much, the one movie they had with Anthony Mackey. Yeah, the one that came out on Netflix last year. Yeah, that was kind of a time. travel situation. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I like their stuff.

I think they did a couple of episodes of Moon Night, which wasn't my favorite Marvel series, but I always get excited to hear their names. I mean, I'm going to watch this no matter what. Yeah, they just...

Regardless of what Kate said. They just signed a... What is the company? XYZ films. I think a 10 picture deal where... Holy shit. Not only going to direct...

Not only direct, but they're also produce and write other projects for the company. They're going to go full James Juan, Philip. Produce. Just here, hand me that piece of paper. Okay. Next. That's maybe number one.

I think about it. All the times we talked about James Juan, I think he just got too big. Yeah. Direct everything. Sure. Like Yermo, of course, right? Yeah, exactly. That's what I was going to say.

Like Yermo de Toro. that he garmel turns shit down although he did produce a couple of crappers too he's a couple of boners i just think jane i just think james won't got too big because they're saying the next aquaman is actually pretty fucking good oh yeah the first one was decent too they said it's good enough to warrant a third movie if they want to do that so i think i think he just got too big and he's doing big movies that takes so much time he can't do sure the movies that we can't do want him to do. So.

Guillermo is a different story. I think he just, he just puts his name on so many projects. He can't, no, there's no way he could do every project. Yeah. Well, that's also why he doesn't direct a ton of shit anymore. And then he, the projects he does, like, they said to Pinocchio, because it was stop motion, that it took a lot of time to make. I could imagine, yeah.

So, yeah. The projects he does make actually take a majority of his time. I just think he puts his name on too many things. Like, I'm going to choose something to direct myself. Oh, I've got an idea. Let's do a fucking stop motion animation. Where I've got to have people go up there and move the character one eighth of an inch for every frame. And then it was probably a passion project of his.

He probably grew up watching stop motion. I'm sure it was, man. I'm sure it was. But yeah, I would think of all, yeah, of all things if you're in our. hurry to get a bunch of shit off your plate I wouldn't think stop motion no maybe it would be the best person but yeah that's

that that'll be my cool though I also rewatched everything everywhere at once and Black Panther and both those movies both those movies made me sad and they hold up am I right Black Panther is still long as fuck but

they both are man yeah but there's just with certain things that happen in my life in the past couple of years. Both movies kind of just hit me emotionally, especially everywhere all at once at the end. Everything built up to the end kind of just.

And re-watching it, the actress that played the daughter, I think she was fucking fantastic in that movie. Yeah, she was. We'll see her a lot. No doubt. The bagels. The bagels.

The bagel. But, yeah. That's all I've seen this week. Still watching Lost and enjoying it. Nice, nice. Cool. Are you done with the first season yet? Almost.

I've been kind of just here and there when I get a chance. I'd like to see what you think about it. It may be around season three. From what I've heard, I think I already know what I'll think about it in the finale. Yeah. You never know. Don't listen to Jack. I think that's where I heard it from.

probably uh well i'll jump in with a couple of cools um i haven't watched a ton of stuff this week because i've been playing spider man still uh nice not flag football no no flag football web football um so yeah i'd most of mine are games i i also just downloaded arkham night and and playing some batman and uh it's it's pretty cool i have to have those in my stack of games that I never opened. Dude. Pretty good. Yeah.

It's not as good as Spider-Man. I just, I buy games and I tell myself I'm going to play them and then I just, I don't have the time. Yeah. I've even wasted money on the, what is it, on Xbox? The game pass.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I never play. Yeah. But hopefully this year, especially with all the PS5 talk last week, I'm hoping there's a game a little bit more this year. Yeah, and I actually did find out that they're making a Wolverine game. Yeah, the same people that made the Spider-Man game.

Did you see the little teaser that they put out, I think, last year? No, I've seen some screenshots that look pretty promising. But, yeah, I'm kind of excited about that. That may make me get a PS5. I don't know. Yeah, that new Texas Chasawall Masker game looks pretty fun, too. Yeah. Cool.

I think it's kind of, I might be, somebody might be yelling at me, but I think it's kind of like the Friday of 13th game where you can play as leather face or you can play as other characters. Okay. You can play Sally. She's in the game.

I'm sure. Wow. Sounds pretty cool. I do need to game. I want to play grandpa. I do need a game because I bought that, I bought it. I never even.

open it the Evil Dead game. Oh, yeah. And they keep adding new playable characters to download. I think the newest one was what's her name that was on Ash versus Evil Dead? Zena. What is her name?

The actress? Oh, Lucy Lawless. Yeah, her character from the show they just added her to the game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I remember her. Ruby. That was her name, Ruby.

Yeah. Yes. But yeah, that, so video, not, everything is totally non-horror-related. That's okay. Mine is too. I've been watching on Netflix. They have this, like, Korean reality show. It's called Physical 100.

I knew you were going to see that, dude. What's that about? I saw the trailer for that. Yeah, it's like, it's like the, uh, the biggest and back. Baddest people in Korea that you've never heard of. But they all know each other. They're like celebrities. Yeah, it seems to be like Korean celebrities and stuff.

And they compete against each other. Man, it gets kind of brutal. Like, they're not fucking around. It looks like it. Yeah. that lifts up above a giant thing of water and they have to hang for as long as they can without dropping and that kind of separates a lot of people and then imagine yeah I would imagine they get into this especially if there's piranha in the water that wins well no and they're super respectful it's kind of cool to

see their culture and then they have like this this challenge where they have to end up to be the last one with this like 20 pound medicine ball or whatever and uh like some people will straight up mixed martial arts through that shit and wrestle each other in this giant mud pit to see i was just about to say look at it i can compete on here but now everybody's taking their shirts off and everybody's like oh no they're all fucking super ripped there's some of them that are pretty obviously roared it out yeah this guy he's he's like the size of two people yeah he's like five foot forward 300 pounds right Jesus Christ Wolverine that's Wolverine literally yeah but I it's it's kind of interesting

to see you know who wins and and how like seriously brutal some of these competitions get it's it's fun to watch yeah I was tempted I was tempted yeah and the last of us of course. I watched the latest episode of that and it's still going pretty strong. It's still on track. Yeah, I'll take it. Although, I guess he's not,

well, I'm going to spoil anything. Oh, don't spoil anything. Is Offerman already off? Man? I don't know. I haven't seen it, but I heard it was super set the episode. All right. I heard, I'm not caught up,

But I heard they've been, like, really pulling at the heartstrings in these episodes. They're trying. Although I don't. It's hard when you, like, are like, hey, here's this brand new character in this episode. I need you to really give a shit when he dies at the end of it. Yeah, that's the Walking Dead syndrome. And I don't entirely care about any of them yet because I haven't played the game. Yeah, the one I cared about the most

Because she just came off as a sweet girl Was the daughter in the first episode Oh, yeah She knows nothing about the game So I just, the way they focused on her I thought she was going to Spoilers be there later I know, yeah

She was a pretty good little actress I mean when the show is called The Last of Us You can't probably expect every character to make it to every episode. So, spoiler alert. Right. They were like, hey, Game of Thrones killed

a lot of people. We could do that too. Right. It doesn't work the same way. Crazy world they created. One thing you can, in the apocalypse, the one thing you can count on is there will be plenty of pills and bullets. Oh,

that sounds like today. Hopefully. Bullets are tough to get hold of. Well, that's true. Every kind of apocalyptic type show, there was like no kind of medication. But in this one, like, you want some percocets? You want some oxies? Are you serious?

There's 10 pharmacies in every city. I mean, 10 pharmacies. 10 pharmacies in every small town. And they're all still open in this movie? Well, no. But like, I mean. There's a... There's a...

There's a... There's, like, a manufacturer that's still open. Ah, okay. I also think it's where you get your bullets, too, so... Ah, one-stop shop. Gotcha. Okay. I get it.

Is that it, Phil? That's it for me. All right. Speaking of HBO, I finished House of the Dragon, season one. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Full circle.

I was hoping that would be on here, so I could make some... Smith jokes, but we'll have to wait. But my cool of the week, not horror related at all, but have you guys seen Jonah Hill lately in anything? Oh, the Eddie Murphy movie? I was going to say, I know he's on that. I was going to say, have you seen Eddie Murphy in anything lately? So I think this is a...

I think that guy's too rich now to really care if he's in anything. You know what? I think this is a good comeback to be for me. both of them. Check out, yeah, check out you people if you guys have.

Have you all seen it yet? I haven't seen it, but I have a question. Okay. Beautiful actress in it, Lauren London, plays his girlfriend, I guess,

soon to be wife. Eddie Murphy's daughter. I heard they, him and her and Jonah didn't really kiss. That it was CGA. That it was CGI. Is he like,

like, like, Why would they do that? I don't know. Was he opposed to that? I mean, Yeah, I saw something, some kind of story. CGI-I kiss.

Yeah. That sounds like an urban legend to me, dude. That makes no sense at all. Unless he's like very purposefully, well, if he was in cell, then he would, he would kiss her if she would kiss her. You know, do you think it was jogging? Does it stop that? If that happens, I can't imagine it was him.

I couldn't imagine because if anybody's seen Lauren London, like I'm not passing it up. No, no offense. I don't think it's Jonah that would be stopping that for happening. Yeah, no offense to Jonah, but the first thing I said to my wife 10 minutes in was like, okay, I'm enjoying the movie, but this dude's playing way above his league. Okay, sure. Yeah. He Adam Sandler did.

Yeah, with... Because if you ever watch Adam Sandler's movie, I mean, he's got like... Salma Hayek. Salma Hayek. What's her name from the underworld movies? Kate Beckinsale. Adam Sandler is...

I can see that. You know, he's got a great personality. It's like the... Who is the guy from King of Queens? Oh, Kevin James. Kevin James. It's like a Kevin James thing. Although, I mean, he's super...

funny too i think he's got a great personality but like i'm not not gonna adam sandler he uh he gets he gets all his he gets all his friends to be in the movies they go to places like africa and hawaii and sure just and he always has a hot actress as his wife yeah hey always does i mean and he gets paid to make these movies so that's the that's the forfector yeah jennifer anison was in that a murder mystery movie

She's been in, like, three of them coming out. I actually, I actually kind of liked the first one. I thought it was, I didn't too. I don't know, I think, I think I just kind of like the murder mysteries, whatever, whatever, if they're serious or comedies or not, I just kind of like the whodunits. Yeah, she's also in Just Go With It. Please watch that one.

If you haven't watched it, it is a fantastic Adam Sandler. That's a good one. Pretending to be married? Yes. Yeah, I've seen that one. And like Dave Matthews sits on a pineapple. That's right. Which is not the appropriate description for that, but watch the movie.

You'll get what I'm talking about. Yeah, because in that movie, he's, who's he trying to get with? Brooklyn Decker, I think there's her name. Which is not a bad choice either. Is it like her and then Verlander's wife? The one that was always in the Carl's Jr. commercials. I can't remember her name. Yeah, that's, I think her name's book.

No, no, no. She's something else. Two different chicks here? Anyway, they look very similar to each other. Okay. The one with the big boobs. Yeah, full-bodied, giant boobies. Carl's Jr.

commercial, called enough hamburgers in front of her boobs. I know what she's talking about. Trust me. And no, respect to her. She seems like a really cool chick, actually. A little insight to one of our social media pages. I posted that I can't think the actress we're talking about. I think her name's Brooklyn something.

I posted she was going to be in a movie, and it was one of the, the picture was one of the most well-liked, most-like photos that we ever put on Instagram. Oh, wow. There's a reason for that. Yeah, I don't think anybody gave a shit. What movie she was in?

It was just for the picture. All right. I know you guys both have Netflix, so check this one out. You people. I've scrolled across it a couple of times and thought about it. I think I was just waiting to hear somebody say something about it. Yeah, it's worth it. Is this more garbage or can I watch this?

No, not at all, dude. You'd love it. It's definitely, it's the polar opposite. Trust me. It's real comedy. It's real comedy. You'll love it. But there's a little heartwarming part at the end, too.

of course. And it's almost a little day of six machina with a way that people come around at the end. But hey, you know what? That's what makes a good rom-com, right? There you go. Oh, shit. Headlines time, right?

Yeah, we're going to do something a little different. We do it every now and then as non-horred news. James Gunn came out with the DC site. we talked about he's got an eight to ten year plan like they're actually planning what they're going to do now and it all sounds pretty interesting

but quick little bit of horror news is what is it the Mayfair witches Lance yes yes already greenlit for a second season and the Exorcist movie is resuming filming so we talked about Leslie Odom Jr. got some kind of illness and they had to

action. It's going to be another curse movie, man. Come on. Jesus fucking Christ. I'm okay with that. A curse movie? This is the same fucking asshole that directed that

Halloween goddamn movie that we just saw with the fucking meat grinder at the end of it. Man, I think had that not been a Halloween movie, it would have been really good. Every see, I hate that so much. Everybody was

praising him until that last movie. Now he's a bad director. Man, if Jordan Peel pulls this bullshit or if weapons ends up like this. Well, if he gets signed on to some bullshit studio project, whatever he has

to write a certain thing, that's a different thing. Nobody liked Ryan Johnson's Star Wars movie, but everything outside of Star Wars, he's like fantastic. So does one movie make you a bad director? I still like Ryan Johnson's Star Wars movie.

The only problem with Ryan Johnson's Star Wars movie, like legitimately, was that he sort of said fuck Star Wars when he did it. Aside from that, it wasn't terrible. Kind of win his own direction, didn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I blame the higher-ups. What was there named? Kathleen Kennedy?

Absolutely. Yeah. You told this man he can write a Star Wars movie. You didn't tell him he have to stay in. in with what was previously. Right. And if you watch... You're doing what to Luke?

I don't think this is a good idea. If you watch Ryan Johnson's movies, like he writes what he wants to write. Sure. I couldn't see anybody like the next Knives Out movie. I couldn't see somebody else writing the third one.

Right. Or the studio telling him this is what we need in the third one. He's going to be like, no. What I wrote is. Especially if they made, like, LeBlanc the bad guy. You know? Oh.

Same thing. All we did is Joe Begos writing the next Knives Out movie. I would love that. Christmas, Bloody Christmas was fantastic. So, DC News, they're kind of doing the phases that Marvel's doing, but they're calling them chapters. and he only announced half of chapter one. Okay, that's fine.

Well, there's also not as many I'm willing to give him a chance. Yeah, there's not a big... Well, I mean, there are, but not that people give a shit about. Do what? Yeah, but... Not that people give a shit about.

I agree with Phil. Oh, come on. D.C. has what they call the Holy Trinity of superhero but they have in the past few years not made them appeal to the movie goers right okay

there's people that are it's not I'm a DC hater I just love Marvel it's like because they gave you better product than DC what about DC's what about Animal Man do you remember Animal Man

that's a deep cut that sounds like a movie that they can make right now that Watched in all kinds of shit. See, that's why I like James Gunn in charge, because that would be a character that he would put in a movie or a TV show. I would hope so, yeah.

Right, and he'd throw him in as like a tertiary character that's funny. Right. So. I see what you're saying. I get it. But you know what I mean? Like, let's say they made a fucking movie starring Animal Man or whoever the fuck that is. Yes.

No, not sorry. Just straight VOD right now, and it would get $0.00. So he's... Because nobody gives a shit or has ever heard of Animal Man. You got to make it like John Cena's dad, like basically... And I was just about to bring that up. Nobody before the show or a suicide squad, nobody's ever heard of peacemaker. Yeah.

Now you have... He turned that into a great character. Well, and then they even added the polka dot guy, which is... a stupid fucking character. It's a dumb character. I'm sorry. Pocodot, Pocod man, rat catcher. Like, these were all fun characters. King Shark.

Stallone as the voice of King Shark. Like, D.C. has dumb fucking characters. I'm sorry. Come on, Phil. I've always been a Marvel guy. But, man, like, and that's why. Because you're like, what, fucking the shark?

I think we should take all of Supermen. Pocad guy? Who the fuck is? Take all of Superman's enemies and give them each their own show. All those super villains. What do you think? Come on. Lex Luthor, Sorrow, come on. Let's see what, okay, first, of course.

Mr. Mixelplick. Okay, you're getting deep in the comic book floor now. No idea what's going on, man. He brought up the Flash movie. He said the Flash movie will reset. Flash point. Yeah, it will, like you said, Lance, it will flashpoint, reset the universe. Is it still the same guy, or did they get a different flash?

Because it's like in jail or some shit, right? They already filmed the movie. He's got his own, like, religious cult going or something. I've heard that's, I've heard that's the problem with the movie is, from everything I read the movie is fantastic. It's one of the best they've done. but sure yeah and who told you that the director yeah because i i talk to andy bouchetti all the time i'm sure you do man oh that's the mama guy isn't it yeah the did the it movies yeah okay but no see that's the problem why they couldn't release it bOD or streaming because they said

the movie is a hit and they feel like it's a hit but that's the problem is they got this guy that keeps getting in trouble as your flash. Right. So. Because, yeah. Well, and he played Flash really. Actually, everything I've ever seen him in, he did pretty fantastic. Yeah, he's a good actor.

He's just a fucking hella wacky. Fucking crazy. Yeah. The kid from the first Transformers movie together. But I have. Shia LeBuff. He's a fucking good actor, too. He's just a little wacky.

Yeah, same thing. Same thing. He's a great actor. Maybe not even as good as this Flash guy, but just as off as Rocker, maybe. But I have a theory that they're doing the flash point in the Flash movie that at the end of the movie, we're going to have a different actor. A new Flash. Okay. That makes sense.

That makes sense. Yeah. I wonder if that's why he's been fucking going Haywire. I'm going. Honestly, I think that guy has. like serious like mental issues. Yeah. The stuff he gets arrested for is you're just kind of like, kind of like, come on, man.

Yeah. Like really? Crazy. And I don't even know how he's allowed in Hawaii because a lot of these rests are in Hawaii. So. Yeah. I figured they kick you out. One of them involved some underage people.

I'm not sure. Yeah. I'm not a good guy. So that's the Flash movie. He also addressed the Robert Pattinson Batman movie. Ah, okay The Matt Reeves directed movie Batman Help Me Out Lance, who directed The Joker?

Oh Fuck, I can't help you on this one I'm trying to remember Like I said, they don't come to us for information That's the problem, dude I mean You guys love that movie I didn't super love it, so what?

I'm going to look it up while you guys The Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie. The Robert Pattinson, Batman movie. These will all be else. I know he is supposed to come back. It is actually, yeah, Todd Phillips. These are all going to be elseworld stories. Oh, Todd Phillips from fucking old school.

No wonder I couldn't remember. He did nothing but fucking crazy comedies, man. Old school is fantastic. Old school is fantastic. The first hangover movies. Didn't he do the hangover too? Yeah, the first hangover movies and both of those are, comedy classics if you haven't seen those

shame right so now we know now we know who's leading us down the DC Primrose path okay well those are not going to be connected to the main they're not a part of this universe yeah they're going to be

pats isn't canon they're going to be labeled as elseworld stories no that's stupid why is it stupid fuck that bullshit shit. You can't bring that Batman into the flat. You can't have the flash

and Green Lantern in that Batman universe. Why not, dude? I mean, that would be perfect. It's too grounded in reality to have medicament. I don't buy that. I don't buy that for a minute. I don't buy that for a minute, Brian. Sorry. I

love the new Batman movie. I really enjoyed it. I think you'd be great. And you see a new universe. Peacemaker. and Robert Pattinson. Yeah.

That's not going to work. It's not going to work. Yeah. Just put it all, put them all in the multiverse with Spider-Man then. Can you see Superman showing up in a Robert Pattinson Batman movie? Yeah, actually I could.

If they did it the right way, I think they could pull that off. I really do. It has to be a totally different feel on the whole universe. Let me think. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I don't know,

you had kind of like that, seven vibe in the new Batman movie, which is what I loved. Yeah, well, and it was... And that dirty, gritty underworld, that dirty, gritty underworld, you know... But nothing else in the DC world right now is, like, gritty at all. Hmm. I guess. You know what, DC's a mass. I'll admit it. It's a mess right now. That's why I'm very optimistic with James Gunn.

Yeah. Because the previous... And I think so, but it's going to be silly comedy, D.C. The previous DC movies, they didn't, they never had a plan. They were like, oh, Marvel's already at Avengers. Let's, let's hurry up and get to Justice League. Right. Now was their mistake right there.

Yes, exactly. Because that's why nobody cared about, nobody, nobody cared about the characters because we didn't get any movies. Yeah, no, no backstory. Sure. Yeah. They didn't have the iron. Man, I'm not happy with the Pats. I love the Pats Batman.

I really enjoyed it. I was really hoping it would be part of this ongoing universe. Well, since it's Elseworld, and it is going to happen, the sequel gets a release date of October 3rd, 2025. And before then... Pat said we'll have a fucking gray beard by then. Jesus. Well, before then, they're already filming the Colin Farrell, Penguin TV series for HBO. Max. That's still going ahead

then. Yeah. Okay. I'll be watching. Don't get me wrong. I'm going to watch it. Yeah, pretty good looking Batman stuff going on. Superman Legacy without Henry Calvill. And he came out and said

they did not fire Henry Calvill. Dane to Han is Superman. Boy, they had such a good Superman. Yeah. But He said they never fired him. They just did not rehire him. He was never supposed to be the Superman.

The reason why he was in Black Adam is because the rock was pushing for that to happen. Well, you know what? Henry Cavill sounds like he's making a stand in Hollywood and he's doing what he wants to do. I just kind of feel bad. I hope that's not why he left the Witcher thinking he was going to reprise Superman. man. I think it was, dude. That's the rumor I heard, but...

I think that he left the Witcher because they weren't doing the Witcher justice, and he didn't like the direction that it was going, and he said... I heard that too. Yeah. He's really end of the books and the game. Yep.

This is the thing that I like, and you guys have never heard of. Yeah. And y'all remember, I can do it my way, I'm not doing it. He's starring and producing, I think it's based off a game. I never heard of it, a Warhammer.

I've heard of it Video game series Yeah Because he's like a super big gamer Like he builds his own computers And Holy shit He's pretty interesting guy

Like Henry Cavill seems like a cool dude man Yeah Like I wish him a lot of luck Like if you go like to his Instagram Like he cooks And he builds his own computers And you wouldn't think Because you know

You just see him in the movies This is big muscled up guy But Yeah Like he's A renaissance man. Yeah. That's what I was trying to think of what to say.

Superman legacy will be a slightly younger Superman than what Henry Cabo was. And we'll get more of Clark Kent in the Daily Bugle than we ever did with Henry Cabo, which we got none of that. Yeah, that makes sense. I think we got one scene, him walking into the office, and that was it. Can I make a prediction, boys? Yeah. They're going to pick one of the kids from Stranger Things to play Superman.

Watch. None of them got the build. Wolf? Okay. We'll see. Is the only fucking one, Wolf, In Art? I don't know. We'll see. I hope I'm wrong. That would be the only DC movie that I boycott if Finn Wolfheart is Superman. But Superman Legacy gets a release date

of July 11, 2025. Okay. We got plenty of time to think about it. The next one, the next movie, sounds pretty fucking interesting. It's called The Authority. Okay. And basically, from what I'm reading, it's a group of superheroes that will go to any links to basically how Peacemaker will do anything for peace. He'll even murder women and children.

the authority is basically a group of peacemakers that will do anything. Kind of like the boys all over again. Basically like the boys. They will go to any links to. Oh, shit. Okay. Or the World Economic Forum. We talked about Batman.

The Batman movie would be called The Brave and the Bold. I like it. You know, this one will actually, they're going to focus on the extended bat family. But same Batman. As, what, Ben Affleck? Yeah. No, Robert Patton. That's the else world.

Okay. No. Different Batman. Different Batman. And Lance does not like it. He wants Robert Pattison and everything. Can they at least do the bat dance? I know Prince is dead, but somebody else could do it.

Come on. Let's at least get the bad ones here. Come on. James Gunn also announced the Robin will be getting in this one is Damien Wains, which that makes a lot of people happen. Damon Wayans? Damien Wayans. Is that Damon Wayne's kids, kid? No.

Oh. In the comic book. Oh, okay. Bruce Wayne's son is Damian Wayne. We broke Lance already. Oh. Well, I'm not the same thing. Wait a minute.

Jim Carrey is back. Jim Carrey is back as the riddler. You got David Allen Greer as the Joker. Marlon Williams is Batman. J.B. Fox is going to be Electro, but he went over from Marble. I'm doing. You're turning three shades of red. better than 50 shades of Robert Pattinson.

Oh, that wasn't. You're all right? No. No, I'm not all right. You're killing me, dude. But Damian Wayne, Damien Wains, clearly I've got to say it for Lance. Wayne, Wayne. Wayne. Wayne, maybe that's where I'm fucking fucking.

That's where you got me. Okay, Damien Wayne. I was like, wait a minute. Bruce Wayne is not a Wain. He is the son of Batman. and he's the current Robin in the comic books. Okay. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. Okay. Which that one, if they don't want to piss off the fans, they've got to cast that one right, because he's a fan favorite. Dane Dahan. Done. Dane Dhan's too old to play a 13-to-14-year-old kid.

No, they should definitely do it now. How great would that be? Oh. How bad the action scenes would be, though? Like, Sky that just has no energy. Let's see. Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow. Oh, boy.

James Gunn said this will be a sci-fi film. Okay. Lance finds it hilarious. I'm listening. I'm listening. Swamp Thing is getting a movie. They said this one be... Now we're back on track. Now we're back into Marvel.

All right. Why? What a Marvel? Oh, oh, shit. I'm thinking a man thing. Swamp thing. Fuck. More DC?

Jesus Christ. Brian, you're killing me. Sure do love man's thing, don't you? Yes, I do. Let's see. Swamp Thing. James Gunn said this will be a straight horror film. Okay, good.

Although, I don't know. Like, is he direct? directing any of these? Some of them, he hasn't said he's not directing some of these. Some of these, he's writing the script. Okay. He's, for DC, he's

in charge of creative. So he would be involved in every no studio involvement. Warner said, let's hire a guy for creative. And I think the guy for the financial, I think his name is Peter Saffron. That's his job.

was just financing. James Gunn is all creative. Well, I mean... Kind of like Fabro with the Mandalorian stuff. Yeah. He's basically how Fabros for Star Wars and Kevin Faggy from Marvel.

He's just... He hasn't let us down yet. Yeah, Gunn hasn't let us down yet. Oh, Gunn did that great movie about Slither. About the little worms and shit. Oh. Remember that? Is that James Gunn? Okay. Wasn't Elizabeth Banks in that movie, or am I thinking of a different one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was also in, what's the one that he did with the evil Superman? Yes, that's right. Brightburn. Brightburn. Look, we saw it on the way back from, yeah. Oh, okay. We saw it on the way back from Rocklahoma one year.

And what's the one he did with Rain Wilson, or Rayne Wilson's character wanted to be a superhero? You remember that where he had the big heavy tool? Yeah, the wrench. He used to bash people in the head with that. Yeah. I can't remember the name. All right. That's James Gunn.

Super low budget. Well, never mind then. That was my question. And, of course. Does he have any sort of history and horror movies? I didn't realize all of James. He's a great. He started out in trauma back in the day.

That's even more credentials, Philip. Yeah. Jim's gone. He's got some good stuff. All right. Okay. Now, real quick, because we're kind of running along here. Quickly, I'm going to run down to TV shows, which, of course, these will probably be coming to HBO Max.

Creature Commandos will be an animated series. Now, I looked at what the Creature Commandos is. It seems like you take, like, the classic monsters, like Universal Monsters, like a vampire, where we'll put them in a group. And in the original comics, the people that they fought were what we always say are this group of people make the best villains in movies.

Okay. Nazis. Hey, Philip. Nazis are funny at anything, right? It makes a great bad guy. And he also said, with anything... He also said with anything... animated, the voice actors will be the actual

actors in the movies, the live action movies. So if you're a voice, if you're a voice actor in an animated movie, that character will show up in a live action movie and it will be voiced by the same actor. Okay. Before we get season two

of Peacemaker, Amanda Waller, Viola Davis' character is getting a spinoff miniseries. That sounds boring as hell, but okay. She was good in it, though. Yeah. Yeah, but what did she do? Sit behind a fucking desk and give orders, I mean. Yeah, but how ruthless

she is. Yeah. It seems like a weird spinoff. Give it a chance, I guess. If it makes you guys any happier, the cast from Peacemaker will be in Waller. Ah, so she'll be pulling the streams and, yeah, I got you. Let's call it Peacemaker season.

1.5. 1.5? Okay. This one, I'm going to hold my judgment on the booster gold. He's kind of... I remember that one.

I remember that one. He's basically like a loser that goes into the future and gets like all his tech and comes back with it. I totally remember reading that, dude, when I was in... But the reason why I hold...

Hooster goal. Booster goal. Booster gold. This one... this one will if they do it right it'll have that comedic tone of Beechmaker. Super comedic, Philip. Is it like Biff Tannen?

It's silly. Yes. Yes. Totally. Totally like Bif Tann. Yes. The lanterns. Everybody was wondering if it was going to be Hal Jordan or John Stewart. It's going to be both. And this one's going to, he said this one's

going to be a true detective style movie. This dude, how much acid? With John Stewart? How much acid? How much acid did James Gunn take before he came to this press conference? Well, he did this over. And then we're going to do this?

And then we're going to do this? Hey, you got a plan. You got a plan. Hey, John Stewart is a detective? I'll watch that. I think you're confused, Philip. I think the character's name was John Stewart. I'm not right, Brian?

or we take that back. Oh, okay. I thought you were talking about like John Stewart was going to be in and I was like, hey, I'm not mad.

Have you ever seen D.C. on weed? Well, fuck, that was going to be way better. I know, I know. Hey,

twist, maybe it'll be him. Well, John Stewart's black, so. Oh. I think there would be controversial. Hey, you never know, man?

I don't think that's true. The character. And lastly, Paradise Lost will take place on, what was Wonder Woman's Island? Themascarer. Sure. The Amazon Woman Island. He said this. That's what I thought, Amazonia or whatever.

Well, let's go with that. Okay. He said if he had to compare this to any show, it would be Game of Thrones. Huh. So there will be murder and deception. backstabbing. And a terrible ending. Not a good point.

So I'm very optimistic with this whole slate. The island of boobs. And I don't think I said what the first chapter of this slate was called gods and monsters. Okay. So.

We're only halfway through the first chapter in the NIC. Well, I told you how they had a lot of characters. Well, this will play out over years. Okay. I totally believe you. I just think that they're almost fucking stupid.

And the one thing that I thought he said was pretty cool was because, you know, how Marvel's putting out like three or four movies a year and three TV shows. Yep. At the most, they'll put out two movies a year and two TV shows. They don't need to blood the market. good plan i think that they can i think that they can do something with this they finally like rained it back and they were like listen we got to do our own thing here right and he he listens to the fans i mean he does a little fun shit on twitter like stupid shit that people argued about like with the henry cavil superman because his costume didn't have the red trunks like the classic costume

sure he put up a poll on twitter it was like do you guys want that or do you guys don't care so he's actually asking the fans what they want. He went full Elon Musk. But no, that's the problem with part of D.C. Because Superman, with red underwear on the outside of his fucking tights,

is stupid. It's true. That's why Manisteele did not get a sequel. He did not have the red trunks. People were like, no. Not hashtag, not my Superman. man, gotcha. But James, I like James Gunn as a

as a person. He interacts with the fans a lot on social media, so... That's cool. He's got a plan, and I don't know if you guys seen a picture of him recently. He's full gray, so... Okay. I don't know what happened.

I don't know what happened. Filming Guardians of Galaxy 3 made him like old instantly. We'll see if he goes full George R.R.R. Martin. and never writes another single fucking thing for the rest of his life. It happened to me. All right.

All right. The upcoming DC TV shows and movies. That's the horror headlines. So, Philip, you're ready to take a trip? We're going out of the trailer park again? Yeah. You guys are? Because I didn't see the trailer.

Oh, no. Brian is going to bring us to me. Oh, soundboard, hit the button. Well, maybe I did. Hold on. If it's something that was in the movie theater. He got hung up in the meth and the crack over there. Uh-oh. Right.

Brian, bring us the... What's what happened in the trailer park. Bring us the big, the small, and the very, very weird. I think it's only one, right? Yeah. Probably not going to pronounce this correctly. Heuros, Hu-Sera, the bone woman. Yeah, I haven't seen this one.

Do you guys talk in my... yourself. Be right back. All right. Wait, it's Spanish. I can pronounce it. Hang on. Okay. Thank you. Except now I've got to read what the fucking name was.

Start talking about it and then I'll figure it out. Okay, I'll do a quick synopsis. Valeria. I'll probably set her name wrong too. Shit, what the fuck's going on? Has a long dreamed about becoming a mother after learning

that she's pregnant. She expects to feel happy, yet something's off. Quessera. Thank you. Yeah. The Bone Woman. Shit, do I even want to try these names? No, sorry.

Look it up on I and do you. Not butchering any more names after Damien Wayans. This really reminded me of the trailer. I think we watched it last week. Baby Ruby That trailer Yeah It did a little bit

Yeah Essentially for people who haven't seen a trailer It's expecting mothers Is happy about being pregnant She's happy to become a mother But Certain creepy things start happening To her and around her

And I believe this is a Spanish language film so yeah it looks like it's subtitled um but i it looks like it's pretty solid it's uh i don't like personally know any of them but i guarantee you if i showed my wife she'd be like oh yeah they're on a novella in so-and-so or whatever a country of origin mexico yeah oh then she 100% knows some of these people alfonso do sol that sounds familiar Uh, Myra Batala, Bataya, Natalia So Leon, Sonia Kaohoo, I don't know what the fucker name is. Doing a lot better than me. Yeah.

I'm supposed to. Doesn't always work. But no, I mean, it definitely looks pretty interesting. It's, uh, any, anytime they do some stuff on childbirth, I mean, that's probably the most sacred thing that happens. Mm-hmm. on the planet ever. Yeah. Like on a regular basis.

We take it, you know, not take advantage of it, but, you know, take it for granted. Yeah. And so when they do some horror shit on something like that, it usually is pretty good. It looks pretty solid. Yeah, Lance, since you didn't see the trailer, we kind of compared it to that trailer we reviewed last week, Baby Ruby. Yeah. Oh, boy. A lot of baby horror this year, huh?

But just think of a Spanish language version of that, except the baby hasn't come yet. It's during the pregnancy where all the crazy shit's happening. Definitely sounds like a French extremist type movie. There's some scenes where I like the scene where she sees like some, I don't know, it looks like a faceless lady crawling in the streets and the ladies like the bone cracking stuff. Oh, boy. It looks creepy, man. Yeah, it does.

I'm actually kind of looking forward to this. I was going to watch Baby I keep on to say Baby Ruth. I don't know. I must want to be baby Ruby. I was going to watch that.

Okay, guys. I'll probably have a review. That's the baby Ruth. I'll probably have a review on that next week. But yeah, this one I'm interested in. It comes out on February 10th.

So next week. All right. I'm ending it to my schedule right now. And we were saying it's... Along with baby Ruth. We were talking about Lancet. It's probably going to be subtitled. Yeah. It looks like it's from Mexico.

Which, if it's Spanish, I'll probably understand most of the words anyway. Plus, I'm saying, plus you can get AGO to watch it. She might actually excited about it. Probably not. Probably not. No, tell her.

I can watch this because I guarantee you've seen some of the people. Like Philip said with some of the actors, they were probably in a novella. So just tell her that's what it is. Oh, boy. And she'll get attitude later and people start doing all cracking stuff. It's like drama horror. Just tell her it's a drama. There you go.

And then the title of the name just, leave out the bone woman. Are we moving on to feedback? Yeah, sorry, everybody. There's not a lot of trailers out there. All right. There's going to be a shitload of trailers for Super Bowl Sunday, though. Ah, I can't wait.

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Was it his fault? I don't think so. I don't think we can blame him for that. I am still stuck on this is not a Halloween movie, and they just were like, hey, let's bring this script in. I'm stuck on that I think they released the movies in the wrong order. Yeah. But James Jude Courtney is a rather large man. And so I wouldn't walk up to him and say, hey.

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22's American Carnage and other current events. I still got to watch it. Nice. Yet another Jenna Ortega movie. If you can believe that. How many fucking movies is she in this year? I just watched an Edgison butthead episode where they were reviewing some stupid music video and Jenna Ortega, I swear. No.

No fucking way. Yeah. She was like super. It was like 11. And like it was, they were singing like 11. like a love song. I think the song was named Chapstick. And they were like, the only thing not between

them is pubicare. Okay. Because they were like Levin. It was funny. Aye, aye, aye. I'm telling you, dude, the new boobis and butt head stuff is hilarious. Is it still Mike Judge that does all the shows?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy's a genius. I just read he's bringing back King of the Hill. That makes sense. They should have a crossover. They should have a crossover. Are you the two that have been

whacking around in my tool shit? Holy shit. First thing that pops up is a video on Jenna Ortega, how she ended up in Jacob Sartorius' music video chapstick. That's the one. There you go, Philip.

So great. Anyway. Oh, boy. That is insane. Matt Wood. Matt Smith, what? And don't watch the music video. Watch the Beavis and Butthead thing.

Interpretation of it? Yes, it's fucking hilarious. They were mad because that dude's like 11. He shouldn't be scoring. Yeah, we can't score. They probably haven't scored when they're 30. That's the whole point of the new Beavis and Butthead stuff. That's great.

Matt Wood says, my heart can't beat unless you tell it to. Okay. Explain, Matt. I was hoping to be on the show. So he could tell us what the fuck that means, but okay. You just really like you, Lance. I guess. Regarding Cabot in the Woods, Zim Vader says,

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I'm going to let you all I mean, it'll be each a weapon of your choice and we're going to go into a cabin in the woods and you guys can all, I'll put a white mask over my face and I'll lay down and let you guys get the fuck out of me. But okay. Listen, we're not your guys or your guides

or seed sayers or whatever the hell. We're just, we're guys that hang out and talk about horror movies once a week, right? That's what we do. Yeah. That's what makes it fun. Enjoy it if you like. There was probably more to that before I started the sentence, but I'm driving.

Yeah. That's probably. I feel what you're saying. Bottom line, please do become a patron, all kidding aside, what you guys do, and I'm talking to everybody that's listening, you help us get together. We take the Patreon. I promise every penny of the Patreon money goes to cocaine and hook. I mean, I'm sorry.

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Well, like Philip said, once we achieve that goal, the overage goes there. But that's when you guys, guys come see it in person. You know what? We might even video it. God damn it. If we get enough patrons... What's the hookers? And all it takes is...

Brian, all it takes is a dollar. No, I'm not videoing that. I don't know that they allow that. That's private. Probably costs more for that. At least. All right. Well, look, for a buck. I mean, how cheap are you motherfuckers? Seriously.

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to sit here and pay Pod bean and everybody for this? Well, as of this... No, that's my number of shit is ever out on time. As of this call, as of this call, my Skype call is free. Oh, yes! Yes! You figured that out last week. Yeah, it was a revelation. Save the $30.

All right. I guess we got to move on. That's enough. That's enough whoring for one episode, right? Begging. There'll be some more later. There's never enough hoaring. All right. But for now, we'll move on to our feature attractions with some more whoring.

This week we're going to explore a very familiar horror locale with the brand new knock at the cabin as well as the classic cabin in the woods. Thank you. But is it? Is it really a classic? Is it? As of right now, it's the highest. It's the highest rated M. Night Shyamalan movie on Rotten Tomatoes. Ah, okay.

Yeah. Really? It's saying a lot. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, it could be lower than it was now. You know how Rotten Tomatoes changes. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Well, we shall see. But let's start with the Cabin in the Woods from 2011. Five friends go for a break at a remote cabin where they get more than they bargain for, discovering the truth behind the cabin in the woods, sort of. Director is Drew Goddard, also known for the Texas show Daredevil. What? I think the X is supposed to be a B. Netflix show.

Okay. Not Texas show. All right. Whatever. Maybe I'm biased. And the back time. at the El Royale. Great movie.

Writers are Joss Whedon and Drew Goddard. What a piece of shit. Sorry, sorry. Keep going. Uh-oh. Not Joe Goddard. He's cool. And some trivia,

the thermal coffee mug bong was a fully functional mug and bong as portrayed in the film, the prototype of which cost $5,000 to make. I always wondered... Fucking potheads.

I always wondered to keep it to keep that. Because, you know, you always hear these stories. Oh, actors and actresses, they always steal stuff from the set. Oh, yeah. Like, like, um, the fucking Chris Pratt. Like, he stole the, the, the, the, uh, the, uh, the complete outfit from the movie set. Yeah. Who could blame him, right?

speak back, full circle back to James Gunn, right? Stole as in they didn't ask me to bring it back, so I didn't. I wonder who got the mug. I know. That was pretty awesome. That is awesome. Also, much of Drew Goddard's inspiration for this movie came from his upbringing in Los Alamos, New Mexico. A place filled with scientists and coworkers all going about their business and

living a seemingly routine and ordinary lives, even though they were building nuclear weapons that could potentially destroy the entire world. Wow. I could see that. Also, the alien guy. What the fuck is his name? Bob Lazard worked in Los Alamos, by the way. A thing that he's been claiming since the 90s.

Your guy, Philip. Yeah, please go watch the documentary on him on Netflix. Or just the Joe Rogan interview. It's great. Sure, everybody's just walking around there. Like, oh, how are you doing? Nothing to see here. Yeah.

Yeah. We only work on fucking UFOs in the middle of nowhere. These aren't the droids you're looking for. All right. Cabin in the Woods. Brian, what did you think about it? I actually call on you to start first because I think you've, this was neither your first time seeing it or you've just recently seen it? Yes.

Yes, so this was the second time I've watched it. Well, and third time because I watched it again with that. I like forced my wife to watch it. But yeah, I had only watched this, I think earlier this year, maybe last year or something like that. And I always get this one and cabin fever mixed up. And so I'm like, all right, whatever. And even looking at the damn trailer for it, I'm like, I mean,

obviously you could tell it's different, but Cabin in the Woods, all right, we get the idea. But then you watch this movie, and if you have never seen this movie, it is so fucking fantastic. This is one of my favorite horror movies. It's got Thor in it. It's got the Dube for his anatomy in it. And it just, it, like, slowly gets crazier and crazier,

and it's got the fucking. Billy Madison dude from you know the asshole of Billy Madison he's in it like controlling the whole thing just saw that guy's balls and I love the guys in charge of the

whole thing they're they're so great there's just a little like half second scene of them dancing with the music when they start turning it on and I think it's put in the trailer and it's it's pretty fantastic. What's his name's fantastic? Richard Jenkins. Yes. The older one with the glasses.

Yes. He's so great. Like, the whole movie is pretty fucking next level for me. It's like, scary movie, but like instead of stupid, silly horror tropes, they are like smart with it, you know? And it's still, but it's still kind of tropey, you know, and they do that on purpose. and I really enjoyed it. The harbinger. Yeah. They've got the Harbinger and he starts talking and then like midway through his little speech to the guy, The sinners are on their path.

They should be put. Am I on speakerphone? I can hear the echo. Like it's it's horror comedy. It's more horror than comedy, but it's horror comedy. at its best. And I think they

fucking killed this movie. I loved it. Nice. Yeah, I think this movie is fantastic and we got to thank Chris Hemsworth for becoming Thor because this movie was shelved

due to financial difficulties. That's what they said. But then this little actor named Chris Hemsworth goes on to play a Marvel's superhero with a really bad American accent. Yeah, you know, we should release this movie. I can't hear his accent come out.

So, got to thank him. I thought all the characters were fantastic. I think the blonde is from New Zealand. Well, let's see. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Anna Hutchinson is from New Zealand.

Yeah. There you go. Yeah, I liked all, they played off all the little tropes to get them to, you know, where they needed them to be for these sacrifices. You know, they put this, you know, like they released the gases to, you know, influence them to go here, to go there. And I love how the stoner is, like, not affected by it. Yeah, I think they even mention it. Yeah. We think the marijuana he's smoking is somehow like made him immune to the gas.

And just even little things like they had the, you mentioned her, Anna Hutchinson, the New Zealand girl. They made her a blonde because, you know, that's a trope in the movie. And also they put the whatever they use to control them. They put it in her hair dye. And just like little. stuff like that.

Just the way they controlled everything to get them to, to this cabin to do this ritual. And I love, I loved how they had to go downstairs and choose an item, which later you find out released, whatever monster that you could think of, they had it. He had the conch in his hand.

Yeah. He's almost so, so close. And I have to give. That was one of the best parts of the movie. When the Merman kills him, And he's like, you've got to be fucking kidding. Hey, sometimes you've got to be careful what you ask for.

The guy was always asking for a merman. And they alluded to it earlier. They were like, okay, Aquaman. Yeah. And Heather Langhamcamp. Yeah, you caught that too. Heather Langham camp, who we know is Nancy. Nancy, right, from a nightmare on Street.

Her and her husband did the effects in this movie. Oh, yeah? No. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. I thought the effects were great. They were all practical.

None of, no. I didn't see any CGI bullshit. The only CGI that I can say there was was when we seen all the monsters into cube things and how they were switching around. But I actually think. Yeah, but I wasn't mad at it. I think they actually built that and just added CGI to it. Yeah. It wasn't over the top, right?

Right. No. Like you could tell it was obviously like watching a video game or something. And maybe one of the greatest scenes, I'm sorry, I keep buttoning into your review here. Maybe one of the greatest scenes in any horror movie ever is when they let all the monsters out at the end. Why is there a purge button? Yeah, that's probably not a good idea to have. But it worked out because holy shit.

Like, they just, like, all these monsters come in and just lay happy. and it's great. And then at the end, we get a great cameo from Sigourney Weaver. Yes. Great cameo. In the movie for like

five minutes, if that. Yeah. But I will say, because to me, this movie is totally rewatchable. It's fantastic. I love everything about it. The only hang-up I had was the scene with Chris Hemsworth

when he tries to jump the motorcycle. I love it. I love the scene. Is that because he didn't use a ramp? No. No, I love the scene. I thought it was hilarious, but it would have been so more effective if we didn't know that there was a force field or a wall. Oh, yeah, from the, from the eagle early. Yeah, if they would have cut that scene out, and then we got that scene. That scene would have been. Yes, I think I agree. I thought about that for a second, but then like when I was watching it, because I

I was watching it this second time, and I couldn't remember exactly what happened to him. And then he starts flying up after the whole speech and, you know, don't hold back. Never do, you know? Yeah, that whole thing. Definitely a Thor speech, right? Yeah, and he's like flying through the air. And I was like, wow, didn't that eagle, like, bust into the wall? Yeah.

Oh, there it is. I just, I just always felt like if we never got the, the, the, the, the eagle or whatever it was bird flying into the to the wall it just would have because like when gray's anatomy guy dies that came out of nowhere because they're driving back to the cabin because the tunnel collapsed and then he gets a hook into the under his jaw which that was out of nowhere so they would have just cut that one little scene I'm I'm with you Brian but then again seeing that one kind of little scene when they were driving and they just showed it off in the distance with the eagle. I thought that was

kind of cool, so I could see how they had trouble taking that that out, you know? It was kind of cool seeing it. But it's not at it either way. I think it works out. It's just a little nitpick, but overall, the movie is fantastic. Classic.

It's just crazy that they shelved this movie. No kidding. Yeah. Which I actually, I did get to watch this in the theater when it actually finally came out. Well, especially with the people that are in it. I mean, even aside from Thor, like, the people that work in the laboratory are all fucking huge.

A lot of familiar faces, huh? Yeah. I mean, Sigourney Weaver with the fucking cameo, that's big name stuff. And I would love to see like a spino because I just, this world. they created. Yeah, there should have been a hundred of them by now. With the elder, the ancient ones or whatever they called them. What was that deal?

Well, I was thinking about that, and I'm kind of not mad that they haven't. Really? I was totally expecting another sequel where they have another cabin in the woods or something like that. But the way that it ended in this one, I was like... The giant hand at the end coming up. Yeah. That kind of killed it, didn't it?

Uh, no, I liked it. I thought it was like a perfect ending. No, but I'm saying that killed the chance of the sequels. No, I mean, I wanted like more of the inner workings of whatever this, this organization is. Like the security guard, uh, the security guard that is the new guy there. Like he clearly has no idea what's going on. Like it's all new to him. I'm like, what kind of organization is this? Do you not? The problem with that is the way they ended this movie.

They would have to be prequels, right? Because they literally, they left nothing to the imagination. You can bring Bradley Whitford. That's the guy who showed his balls in Billy Madison and Richard Jenkins back. You can bring those guys back. You can bring Sigarnie Weaver back. Sure. I'll watch a show.

Not if there's not a earth left to protect. It's the fucking. gods of, the old gods have taken over now. Well, we can also, if we're spitballing here, spin-off movies, we can get other, other perspectives. We can go to Japan and see how the little girls defeated, what they needed defeated. Okay, now, now you guys are talking multiverse.

At this point, we can just do it into a little frog. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you misunderstood me, Lance. Like, when we get the video of the little girls celebrating, What led up to that? Yeah. Let's get maybe that movie or another country. I can see that.

Because you know other Japanese movie trope choices that they have besides that one? You know there guys were sitting in the lab talking shit about the Americans. Of course. I'm American so stupid. Okay, Philip. We can get like if it happens, if there's one in China instead of Sigourney-Weaver, we can get like Michelle Yao to be the one that pops out at the end or something like that or or you know whatever country I don't know Mexico we can have Salma Hyg be the the main

except I need a little bit more than a couple minutes with Salma Hyg that would be cool in the movie in the movie that would be cool yeah we knew what you meant Brian okay you didn't just mean in the movie and we know that of being respectful to this hike. A couple minutes is still on my hike and about to do it. Because she does listen to the show. Oh, you know she does.

And Michelle, yeah. Love you both. All right. Let's do scores. Or Lance, did you go? Not yet. All right. Go ahead.

Okay. Well, I went and saw this one at the movie theater. And it was this was one of the, big surprises for me because I didn't know what to expect and I know all I knew I'm real glad I didn't see a whole bunch of trailers I was just about to ask you Lance because that's how I went into it it was like one of those days where I was at the movie theater and I was like what's playing next cabin in the woods horror movie okay let's let's I didn't know nothing about it well and you

know what also got us Brian is the fact that that cabin looked exactly like the evil dead cabin and I don't think that was by accident either. So you got this movie starting and it's like, okay, I think I'm going to see probably a slasher movie or, you know, zombies out in the woods or whatever. And he got Richard Jenkins and Bradley Whitford. It just show up as just like these two fucking work-a-day guys that are in some kind of a weird underground office or whatever.

Yeah. He's got a whole monologue about, like his wife putting childproof locks on the cabinets and they're like not even pregnant yet. And then they hit you with the title screen like boom. Cabin in the woods.

And then it did. And then I kind of like, okay, well, maybe they just fucked with us at that beginning. Maybe that's not going to tie into the movie or it will, but it'll be way down the road or something like that. And I thought, okay, cool. Now we're in a regular, you know,

a teen slasher movie. So this is perfect. You got the regular characters that you get in all of them. And then I'm like, okay, I'm not exactly sure where this is going, but it looks kind of cool. It looks fun. Kind of like Scream or like Friday the 13th movie or something like that. And then the stoner shows up with that fucking bong that he turns into a coffee

cup and moves forward. I love that character. He's so great. Every line of dialogue he has in this movie is awesome. Yeah, I think he's like the genius. It's pretty cool the way that they wrote him to be the smartest one in the group. It's almost like the Scooby Gang, but he's like shaggy on steroids or something. And everything about this movie was amazing.

And I wish you guys had said something bad about it or that it kind of fell short here or there or somewhere else. But there's not a whole lot that they missed out on here. Once they got to the point where now we kind of know what's going on and, you know, we're putting two and do together at this point. And they're like, okay, well, let's go down. I found an elevator, the stoner, of course, finds out that there's an elevator that you can go down and see these different characters. How many Easter eggs, guys, did y'all catch?

Because I really tried to, I mean, obviously there was pinhead, right? And, I mean, there was, you know, the puzzle box or whatever. you know, there was needless to say, you know, Texas chainsaw massacre. There was, there was references, but they changed them slightly. Yeah. Yeah.

To be its own. It changed it slightly to be its own thing, but not enough to where you didn't get the reference. Of course, I mean of course, I don't know. Oh, I guarantee you there's a merman out there somewhere. I mean, of course, we got we got Pennywise in there basically a killer clown.

Absolutely, man. There was a fucking unicorn that kills somebody. I would love to read an article on how many different Easter eggs there are in here like the different horror movies

because that's, this is a movie that was made, you know, I'm sure it was made obviously by horror fans, but it was easily made for horror fans. And Drew Goddard,

I've got so much respect for him. I think he did, didn't he do some writing on Lost, even, Brian? I can almost swear to you that when I was watching that show back in the day that his name popped up a few times. He's been involved in a lot of TV shows. The Daredevil TV show was so fucking good, especially with Charlie Cox playing Daredevil,

that they're literally bringing it back into the MCU. That's how good it is. He wrote Cloverfield. which is a classic The Martian Okay Bad Times in El Royale He was a writer on Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Okay And let's see He was a writer on lost Okay Well I mean I almost kind of wish you guys It said something negative This is one of those rare occasions

Where I love this movie so much Not only when I saw it at the movie theater and it was the big surprise that I didn't see coming, down to watching it again. And I'm like, nope, I didn't miss a thing. Everything in this is almost flawless. When I called into the binge boys on the binge cast, Brian, they did their, what are your favorite movies from 2000 forward?

And they fucked with me on some of them, because one of my favorite movies of the year was my big fat Greek wedding. And they said, oh, my big fat, he's fucking with us. He's fucking with us. He didn't really love it. Like, kind of go off on, not a tangent, just kind of off the rails a little bit. The first time I clearly remember hearing you call in onto the binge cast was when you wouldn't, oh, fuck.

You were, no, not Pedro. You would go on there and you would talk about the affair, that TV show. Oh, yes, the one that Jim Law got us. Yeah. And that was a good TV show. I just remember they were like, is this guy fucking kidding with the fucking affair?

You get it, Philip? Yeah. All right, so that's some great history. But this was my favorite movie of this year that it came out for sure, far and away. One of my favorite movies of the last 10, 20 years, easily. Man, I wish I could find something negative.

Can you guys find anything wrong with this movie? I mean, they got every single one of our tropes in, but they did it in a way that turned it around and spun it exactly where it was its own thing. I honestly, I can't even find a fault. I wish I could. Like you said, you brought up how it gets to a certain point and then you just kind of go on that ride. I liked getting to that point because had you asked you like when they go, they all get in the motor home and drive off and then you got that guy. watching him on the rooftop and he's like, you know, they're on the way, you know, or whatever he said. All those little things they snuck in there.

Well, yeah. It's like, what the fuck is going on? And even the very beginning of the movie, which is usually just boring setup for something like this, is like fantastic. They got the guy on the roof. They've got the line in the very beginning of the movie when he's talking to his girlfriend and that one chick. Oh, that was... Like she's got the books. Where did you...

Where did you find out about... What did you learn about these? And she ran away. I learned it for you. That was great. It's such a great line, dude. I died laughing. I thought that was hilarious.

The whole... By the way, you have no pants on. Yeah. Also that. Since she was basically dancing in front of the windows. And the character developed. Philip, Philip, the character development, the way that that one character, he like easily could have just sat there and just jacked off watching it, right? You know, taking a little over clothes off?

Excuse me. He was a gentleman enough to go over and say, oh, I can't do this. And he went, hey, by the way, this is a one main mirror. I don't know what's going on here. That's what's so great about it. They built that guy up like he was going to be the hero at the end. And then he just fucking died. But we get the stoner as the, I fucking love that guy.

Like he's hearing the little whispers that, like suggesting you and he's like, what, Pop-Tarts? And we thought, and we thought he died early. Up the tears, man. No, that was what was so cool. We thought he died early, right? But they said, uh, didn't they? How did they find out he was still alive? They took like a phone call.

They were all partying, right? And, like, Bradley Wiff said, tequila. when the tunnel didn't explode right away there was some kind of wire malfunction somebody was messing with the wires and it was him down there and fucking around with the wires and they thought it was down to the virgin if you want a negative part about this movie Lance him rolling up a joint they look like fucking garbage because of straight garbage wow we're really nitpicking now literally that guy has never rolled a joint in real life.

All right. Well, okay. There you go. You just cracked the code, mine. So they said something during that part about a call from upstairs and the guy kind of sort of freaking out. But then they never went back to it. I'm that.

That's where you, what you guys are talking about. I think the call that upstairs was Sigourney Weaver. Well, downstairs, but what's upstairs? So, Gwarnie, I don't know. Well, look, who's the writer that wrote all this cosmic horror, right? About the old gods and I'm the reader of the group. Help me out. I was about to say you need to help us out.

Come on, guys. I don't read books, man. Like the color out of space. Oh, H.P. Lovecraft. Thank you. I was going to say HR Guide. but that was the guy who did the artwork for Alien. So Sigourn and we will circle.

But yes, yes, H.P. Lovecraft. This was very Lovecraftian, wasn't it? That was a fucking fantastic scene. He's like, yeah, man, they're puppeteers. She's like, puppeteers? Right. Well, dude, dude, I thought about you big time. I thought, okay, Philip's a stoner.

He comes up with conspiracy theory. He believes in aliens. Holy fuck! Philip could survive this movie. Philip would be the final boy. Just because it's a conspiracy theory does not mean it's not true. Yeah, I got you, man. I can't think we can just sit here and jack off all night talking about this movie.

It's that good. I mean, can nobody say anything negative except Brian's one little nitpick? I can't. Honestly, I really... Well, and even that I'm not mad at. No. I mean, I'm not, I'm not going to watch this movie to see if he rolls a perfect joint. I mean, you guys already talked about how, you know, there's not really too much bad CGI.

That was kind of one of my favorite scenes. Okay, what I did do is I paused it when the elevator scene was on, trying to catch all the Easter eggs. That's the only thing I want to see is I want to Google and see if anybody has figured out every single horror movie reference. in this film. Because if you look it up, there's got to be everything. Like you all said, there was the Japanese ghost girl, right? Like Kyoko. And there was the, you know, Texas Chainsaw Masker family.

There was, I mean, Jesus Christ. I don't know what the fuck. I mean, these are just horror fans. This was just a movie, buy fans, four fans. How did this not almost get made? Is definitely different than zombies. Mm-hmm. There you go.

I agree. Don't bet on zombies because you're not going to win the pool of money at the end. And I love that to you. What was it, maintenance one? Yeah. And then they were like, and that guy over there. He was like a eight-and-year-old. Hey, he made the right choice, right?

He made the right choice. That's what I'm saying, man. It's like every little little thing that they threw in and this was just so fucking gold. Yeah. It was an insanely good movie. All right. Scores. Right.

Let's do scores on this one. I guess I'll start. I'm going to give it a 10, dude. I think this is a fucking, Perfection. Yeah, perfection. One of the classics. If you've never watched the cabin in the woods, it's so great.

I want to give it a 10. But just off my two, well, I'm not going to count the joint, rolling, but my nitpick about the about the motorcycle jumping scene just takes it down just a little bit. So I give it a 9.5.

Wow. Holy fuck. Lance. Well, you know what? That Spider-Man animated movie that we saw that so far has been our number one, it's toast because I'm 9.5 too. So there's no way.

A 10 and 2, 9.5. is ever going to eat on this show, am I right? I think we all gave Spider-Man into the Spider-Vers of 10. I didn't give it a 10. I've only given two movies a 10 in my life, and that's a clockworked

orange and mother. So, but this one is... We're there. We're there. Yeah, it's amazing. It's such an underrated classic of horror movie. Yeah.

Dumb, you know. All right. Let's roll on to 2023s, the brand new knock at the cabin. So if we keep the momentum going. Shamalama Ding Dong. While vacationing, a girl and her

parents are taken hostage by armed strangers who demand that the family make a choice to avert the apocalypse. Director is M. Knight Shamelon, who we all know. Writers are M. Knight with Steve Desmond and Michael Sherman, based on the book

by Paul Tremblay. Michael Sherman, the skeptic guy. Oh, funny games. I didn't even catch that, Brian. Oh, sorry. Check it out this article. Is it Michael Sherman? Same one?

Maybe. Eminet Chamalon cast Dave Batista after he was impressed by his performance in Blade Runner 2049. The initial screenplay draft by Steve Desmond and Michael Sherman was voted onto the 2019 Blacklist as one of the most popular unproduced screenplays of the year.

Dave Batista, let's first and foremost, better actor than The Rock? Yes. He, I said it, I think last week. I think he's the best wrestler-turn actor. I don't know, man. The Rock's been a lot of stuff. I think you're not wrong. Dave.

The Rock is Dwayne. He is Dwayne Johnson in every role. Yes. Except when he's on cheat day, when he have a big stack of pancakes. But like it doesn't matter how many Kevin Hartwoods. This looks so delicious when he put. The only role with the Rock that I thought was a little bit different than what he normally plays. You guys ever see that movie?

No, Be Cool. The sequel to Get Shorty where he played the game. The gay bodyguard. Not a huge fan. Not a huge fan. But it was a different role for him to play. Yeah. And I think it's because it was outside of what he normally does.

Because he was a dick, right? He was an asshole. Well, in that, he was playing a gay hitman with the... Be cool. Be cool. It's a good movie. You just look at all the roles he's played. Me.

Do you look at all the roles he's played in the past, what, five years? Yeah. same character. Kind of like Negan. Yeah. And I like, I like Negan. It's just he's just the same guy. Even if he shows up for,

he's going to be in the boys in the new season. No. And we're going to. Let me guess playing Negan. After we watch it, we're going to say, you know, he was really good in that show, but he was vegan. Yeah, typecast.

But is this definitely not a typecatian? And I just watched an interview. I'm better to be a glass onion. I just watched the interview. He was on Jimmy Kimmel the other day. Right. He said that he really wanted to play this role, and he was hoping he got it.

But then, Oh, wow. Amnight Shyamalan told him, don't worry, I wrote this for you. No. Yeah. I totally make sense because this character fucking. Oh,

all right. Well, I'll jump in first since. In the book, it's a little different. Okay, go ahead. I've never read the book.

I'd be interested to hear your take and we won't get into spoilers. But I think that he killed it as like a high school coach or whatever. And he was the guidance guy. I think that. that works and I think that he killed it and I think that he played it really cool the whole time and he had probably

more lines than anybody else in this movie and I mean yeah he was the main guy he was Leonard right yeah so and I I love Batista in this movie and I

I like where this went it wasn't a normal M-night Shyamalan movie I don't think that it did anything super special and I wasn't super surprised by it but I liked the movie man I think that everybody did a really great job in the movie I think that they

handled things probably the way that they should have handled things I don't know what how much else I can say without getting into spoilers, but everybody did pretty awesome. It was about what you would expect from the trailer. Maybe not as many twists and turns as I expected. But they did a good job with what they had. All right.

Brian? I unfortunately did not get a chance to see the movie. No. Yeah, I apologize, everyone. I know this is the second time already in this year. Come on, dude. We all do it, man. I mean, look, dude, like you said, how many fucking movies have we seen just for this time?

Yeah, it's just, I just really, it's not a big deal, dude. I know, I just really want to apologize to the listeners. I know that this is our 350th episode. Yes. It's just the past couple months' life is just, been really kicking my ass, so I couldn't make it. So that you're aware this is a Batista fucking acting class? I've heard...

He kills it. Because I was really hoping that you guys would say that, because I heard this is why, because in the next Guardians movie, that's the last he's playing of Drax. Because he doesn't want to get typecast playing those kind of characters. He wants to pursue bigger acting roles. and a lot of people said, I've even heard people say that they didn't really care for this movie, but he was good in it.

So I'm happy that you said that he was good in it. Fantastic. Definitely the best part of this movie was David Batista. Nice. What about Ron Weasley? He did okay. He cast any spells? Maybe.

Actually, it's kind of white. Hold on. Okay. but we'll get to that although i i think i've seen ron and weasley in a couple other things i oh yeah he's gonna go far uh he's in uh lance he's in um servant yeah with m knight shalom oh yeah big big part of that show big part all right lance what did you think okay so i i did read this book about six months ago and i will say this i'll say that when i read the book um i was expecting something big. I thought there's going to be a really cool, all encompassing ending here

that's going to explain everything and make us really understand what's really going on. Never happened. I was super disappointed, super, super disappointed with the book. I thought, okay, cool, I love the lead-up. I love the idea. I love the concept. I love the story. I love the characters. I love the little girl. She's great. I love the fact that these people come up. She's been in some stuff before, right? Not only the movie, but from a perspective of the

book, I really, really enjoyed her character. I also heard that too, that the little girl, you know, for child actors, you know, a lot of people are kind of hit or miss with them, but they said that she really was pretty good in it. Oh, yeah, she was certainly not

obnoxious. And I feel like I feel like she's been in something before I don't know what it is. Shout out to Lulu Wilson. Yeah. Right. Like that was the one I had a problem with because she like Shirley templeed it. He's like your, it's like your arch nemesis for it. Because she was popping up in everything.

Lollipop. She goes, I'm like, I can't believe it. No, the actress. Fucking stop. But no, this girl was really good. I really enjoyed her in this. movie and I know that I've seen there and something else before. Yeah, super believable. Yeah, super when you, yeah, like a smart, you know, young kid that's

been raised the right way. Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't like you were watching her going, oh, come the fuck on. No shit, right? Like super irritating and all that. Didn't get any of that. But she was that way in the book too, right? Like, she was really good in the book. I mean, she was my favorite character in the book and maybe this movie we'll see but I will say one thing about the book even though it bored

the fuck out of me and I was kind of like are we really going to get anywhere here? Is anything really going to happen? I did enjoy the feeling that I got at the end of the book of like is this really true or is this really not true?

Is this really happening or is these a bunch of fucking religious fanatics that are making shit up because the way the book ended, you don't know. The way this movie twisted two-thirds through and the way this movie ended, completely fucking pissed me off. I did not enjoy this film.

Just to jump in real quick, this was the first thing she's been in. Really? She was, it says, IMDB says she was in a music video before this and this is her only movie. Really?

She looks really familiar. Music video for chapstick, right? I didn't enjoy, I did not enjoy the film, guys. I'm sorry. I didn't enjoy the book because nothing really fucking happened. But I love...

The chapstick thing still cracks me up. I'm sorry. I love it. I love the feeling that I had at the end of the book where maybe they were just religious fanatics or maybe this was true. The movie fucking grabbed all that and took it out of it and ripped it away from me and made it too obvious. Did the book ruin it for you? Is it possible of this movie you would have enjoyed it better without reading the book? I don't think so, man.

I really don't think so because at the end of the day, it was a great setup. And it was a great concept. And I did enjoy the way the characters came out. But, oh, man, we can't get too much into spoilers yet. Yeah, but I think there's a definitive answer in this movie, which I would have been upset. I would have been upset had there not been a definitive answer. Understood, understood. Although, maybe not.

I don't know. I don't know, man. when things started happening God, this is such a wow, it's hard not to spoil it without doing the spoiler alert. You want to just do scores and then we'll talk or what? This is random.

Sorry, guys. It's stuff on IMDB. I mean, this is, I just got to throw this in here because I did not know this. The Last of Us, that first episode, the actor, the actress that played the Man Lauren's daughter. Do you know her mother is Thandi Newton? Do you guys know Thandy Newton? Yes. Oh, absolutely. And I didn't know that, but now I'm looking at a

picture of them standing next to each other and they look exactly alike. Yes, absolutely. They're wonderful. She looks just like her. Sorry, that's my last D-Reyerling of the show. Man, I'm ready for scores, Philip, because I wasn't a huge fan. I wasn't as big a fan as I think you're going to be. All right. And so, um, I'm I'm going to put this on not M. Night Shyamalan shit list, but it doesn't go in... Yeah. Yeah, because he's got a spectrum, doesn't he? Yeah, he's got the happening on this side.

Yeah, true. He's done some absolute nerds, and he's done some jams. It doesn't go in sixth sense category, but it also doesn't go in, like, the village category. I'm going to put this. I love the village for the record. Of course. I'm going to put this one at a six and a half. Not bad.

Not bad. That's not a definitive score. I came up with that just now. Not bad. Not as high as I thought you were going to give it with all the talk. about Batista, man. I thought you were going to give up a fair score. I'm just saying, like, as an actor, but

Batista has done some good things, and I think that he did fan-tick. If I had to give his performance, it would be a 10. There you go. There you go. Movie six and a half, Batista's performance 10. Yeah. He completely carried

this movie. I'm going to give the movie a solid four on 10. In other words, a solid four-on-in- Dude. In other words, it wasn't fucking horrible. It took a solid crap. It was No. It was close to half good.

It was close to half good. I'll give the book of five on ten. I'll give the movie a four on ten. Now, before you guys... Shall we spoil? Before you get into spoilers, question, is M. Knight...

Is his movies better when he writes him, or is it... Is it when he adapts something? that's somebody else's work. I think the fact that he wrote some of this, I think... Because he didn't write old either, did he? I was in adaption. I'm going to tell...

Yeah, adaption of a graphic novel, which I read last year also. But I'm going to tell you that... God, how do I put this man without being too rude to M. Knight? He's a good filmmaker, and he's a good writer. and he comes up with some good concepts, but he does, like, take other people's work and try to put a twist on it. And maybe I'll like it more when he does try to put a twist on it,

because this one he did put a twist, but I don't like the way he did it because he, like, put it over at the top and took all the uncertainty out of your mind. We're so close to spoiler territory. I mean, considering the way that it was done, I liked it. Fair enough.

But you only six and a half liked it. And Brian, remember what Philip's six and a half is. Yeah. I don't know what that means. But I think that I think that he maybe ventured into religious territory here.

And I think that that was maybe a different step for him. And so he went a different way. but did he? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, you guys just get to spoiler.

Before we say spoiler alert, can I at least say one thing and that is that, Brian, I don't know if it's a cosmic unconsciousness. I don't know if it's some kind of weird. I don't know what's going on here, dude. I have no idea, Brian,

how you are able to pick these, fucking movies. I have so much respect for you, brother, because... It's seriously... It's so close! Cosmic connections. It's so connected to the cabin in the woods

in the way you would have never imagined. So, great job, Brian on that. 360 versus 720. There was one point of the show I was called DeHora Somalia because I compare stuff. Well, it's, dude, it's not just the cabin. at all.

Right? The cabin's like the smallest part of the connections. I figured from watching the trailer, there was more... Okay. The cabin was just the set piece. It wasn't necessarily about the cabin, so... Well, and because, I mean, that you learned from the trailers,

is that they have to sacrifice somebody to save humanity, the greater good, you know? All right. In a cabin in the woods. All right. Spoilers? Yeah. Spoilers.

And I'm going to post this question I asked you about. Are you out now, Brian? Are you going to? No, I'm going to stay. But I'm going to post the question. It doesn't matter what you say, honestly, dude. Because if you're going to see the movie, you're going to see it. So I think you probably pretty much know.

That's what pissed me off about this movie is you do know. Okay. Going in exactly what's going to happen. But I am going to post that question. just asked you guys on Facebook see what other people think about whether he's a better writer writing his own thing or adapting stuff. I would personally say he's probably better adapting his own writing, unlike, you know, Rob Zobby or something like that. I think so. I think so because I think I think that M. Night Shyamalan has some really interesting stories to tell,

and he's better at telling those stories than like he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, He's more of a rider than a director. He's still young. Are we in spoilers? Let's do it now. Okay. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Spoilers. Was he in the movie? No. Nope.

Never saw him. Yeah. I heard he was in the movie Votivist I'm sure he was but we didn't see him I didn't catch him Philip did you

No I didn't But I think Again though Where would he been Was he the grasshopper I'm looking at us I'm seriously I think that I think that he's still young

And I think that he has He must have been on one of the newscasts Philip A Stephen Spielberg heart To him I like that I like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.

Like, he likes movies big and epic. Yep. The way that they're supposed to be, like, M. Night Shyamalan has got something special. So, so Brian, who's already shown that? Brian, who is he in, right recaptured it? Sorry, Phil. Who is he listed in the credits, Brian? Uh, informal, infomercial.

Infomercial. Oh, okay, so he's probably on the commercials. I got you. That was a big part of this movie when they had the, the TV show going on behind them. Like, for example, when I wanted to call him The Rock, see? When you had Batista and he said, I like this cartoon, I like this cartoon. It's very inclusive, and yet I think it speaks to everyone at the same time.

You know, did you notice that? And did you catch that that was kind of the wokeness vibe there, Philip, that they were making fun of that? Yeah, but maybe I think they went both sides of that, though, because they had. Well, they went both sides, but it was funny. Obviously, it was a gay couple that had a child, right? And that was the whole thing. And the whole time they were like, I were just being targeted. And that was not the case at all.

They were just people. Random. And they made that obvious. They made that obvious. We didn't know it was the same sex couple here when we showed up. One thing that I missed from the book, Philip, that they did go. a lot more into Eric's religious background. Because they said that like Eric,

there were these flashbacks in the book. Who's Eric? One of the two parents of the little girl. And he would go to church and he would like sneak. He would have to sneak off, right? He would, he felt kind of guilty. Then he would have to sneak to the Catholic church to practice the religion. Just, just sorry, don't cut you off.

just so I know who's Eric in my mind, because I did see a clip of them telling them the couple that they can't kill themselves. They have to choose which one of the family members. And one of them says, one of them says, even if I believe that this was true, I'm not killing one of my family members to save everybody else. Is that Eric?

Or was the other guy Eric? No, I think that was the other guy. What was his name? Andrew. I think. Yeah, Andrew. I mean,

it's a very simple cast. You've basically got two parents, a child, and then four people. Like one of them, one of them is a very athletic. He's like the,

more aggressive. I just remember seeing a clip of that scene. I just remember seeing a clip of that scene, and I really like that scene because, I mean, I don't know what I would do in that situation. I mean,

I would like to say that I would truly be like, that guy and say even if I believe this was all real, I would never kill a member of my family to save everyone else. Well, the problem is if you believe that it's real. Yeah. Which is what the whole

movie is about. Is this really happening or are you guys just full of shit? Yeah. And I mean, who in the world in their fucking right mind would believe it was really happening? Right. If four random people showed up with these fucking

handmade tools that are basically weapons, Brian. So you've basically got sticks, like whatever might take a stick from a mop, right? Like, and take the mop head off and put like an axe, like a knife on the end of it or an axe.

And then also like, oh, I don't know, like a chain or something like that. Did they not have access to real weapons or did they have to make their own weapons? Any idea why, Philip? Were they just laid that way? I assume it had something to do with their vision but like...

Yeah, it was all about visions, Brian. Yeah, I think it was Batista that had the pitchfork with like a blade on the edge of it. Yeah. So he essentially created what he saw in his vision. Right. And so these four random-ass people... Totally random. Had been having visions for a while and finally got together and convened on this one spot.

Yeah. And so that's how they knew what was going to happen. What was going to happen and what they needed to do. To make it even more fucked up, they didn't, they were, like, showed up and they were shocked, right? Like, Bautista, did you see the look on his face, Philip? Which you said, my two daddies. And he said, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Like, to him, that was like weird. But that was the part that I thought was great. Like, I mean, like, when we talk about what I would agree. I would agree. Like, like, who gives a shit if, if a character is gay in a show? or whatever, you know, a different color, who cares, you know, whatever.

And so they, like, tried to steer it towards that, and they were like, hey, that's not what this is. Yep. I liked that. Yeah, it's like their vision told them to show up at that particular cabin in the world's brand. And it had nothing to do

with the fact that they were like same-sex parents, it was the love that they had in this family. Although, they were the ones. there was one character that had a backstory with some violence against one of the other characters, which I always thought was kind of weird when I was reading the book. It was Ron Weasley.

Yeah, and I didn't get it in this one either. And it's... Is it because he's a ginger? I thought that... I thought that... I thought that was... I thought that was weird, and I don't think it was never. necessary.

What, that his hair was red? No, I think the fact that he had done a violent act against one of the two characters. Did they recognize each other? Yes. And, well, sort, not really. Not until after. Like, he found him in a bar and the guy was talking. He attacked him.

Yeah. And like he, and he attacked him because he was gay. Which kind of leads me to believe that that was all part of the, the whole idea of how this was like meant to be. Right. And like, uh, it has nothing to do with who you are. That even, that even made it more fucked up. That was a vision or did he just?

No. No. That was way before all this stuff. He was just a guy that had been sent to prison actually for attacking this dude because he was gay. And then he just happens to be a part of this four person crew that comes over. Ron Weasley went to prison. Yeah.

He'd never make it. I know. Well, and I really wanted it to be like a different person. I think that them having that connection doesn't make sense with the rest of the movie. It kind of doesn't, which in a way it kind of makes it more pertinent, though, Philip, because if you think about it, it's kind of like, okay, well, that really means that God isn't real. God is whatever, talking to them, right? Yeah.

Maybe that really means that this isn't real. That this is just some dude that attacked me fucking 20 years ago. Yeah, well, that's what they thought. Everything you guys, I'm getting from you guys, was this ending kind of ambiguous? No. Or did you get a clear that the book ending was? The book ending was. Okay.

I like that it wasn't ambiguous. So the way that it ended was all of the four horsemen for Dave Batista and his cronies. who were just a bunch of regular people came and tried to convince them this is what's happening we need your sacrifice or everybody's going to die and they didn't believe it

until the very end when Batista had to slice his own throat because they slowly went and killed one by one the member of this you know religious sect or whatever the hell they were and then when Dave Batista

killed himself he said you only have a few minutes to decide yeah but it got that he was he was the final you know the floor and it had gotten progressively worse as they killed members of their own people

who were just again random fucking people who had had these visions and came together. It was like close encounters of the third kind

and they all came to get. Building a mountain of this out. Building a mountain of mashed potatoes. Yeah. Right? That's the mountain

where the UFO's going to be. Exactly. What fucked with me though or what I didn't like about the movie, Brian, which was different from the book, is that in the movie,

once you started seeing these airplanes falling out of the sky and shit like that, you knew it was real. You knew yes, okay, it's pretty fucking obvious that there's, it was almost like an anti-twist, in my opinion.

Like the book, the book made it very, the book made it incredibly ambiguous what's going to happen at the end, because in the book you never really got to that Philip, that feeling where there's actually airplanes falling out of the sky.

It's like they're watching and they kind of alluded to it a little bit in the movie, but in the book, it's more like, well, we're watching a news story, but we know for a fact that what they're reporting on happened a day ago or three days ago or has been going on. So is this really the end of the world, or are they fucking with us, right? Yeah. So the movie, what pissed me off about the movie compared to the book, although I wasn't a huge fan of the book, because I just didn't enjoy the writing style that much or whatever, but at least I enjoyed the ending, was in the movie. What? Once airplanes started falling out of the sky, I'm like, okay, fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck this shit. I'm out. It's like, I know for a fact, they're telling you this is real, and they saw real visions, and this is like hitting balk, bunk on the head. This is telling you this is absolutely really happening, and these are the four of us

of the apocalypse. That's also when the same-sex couple takes sort of a different, turn, I think. Because, like, I think if it's me and my wife and my child, and I see airplanes starting to fall out of the sky, and immediately I'm like, okay, it's me. Oh, you just go ahead and kill yourself, for them to kill you. Or, well, yeah. Right. Yeah, because in the clip I saw, I thought they said you can't take your own life.

Yeah. Yeah. And that was in the book, too. That was in the book, too, for sure. Somebody had to actually kill you. Right. So, like, basically, two of the three would have to murder the other one. I feel like it would have been an easier choice.

And then with these two guys that both seem like super loving parents and is actually the one that is more emotional and less masculine. Right. That says, it's me. I have to take the responsibility here. You have to kind of take it on, right? Yeah. And the way that it's done through the whole movie, it seems like it's him through the whole movie, you know?

Yeah. And I think that he pulls that. Brian, it's probably more like a five than a four. Oh, okay. I'm going to take away the, the, the, Garrett Collins, I'm going to go up, I'm going to go up to five. It's like right in the middle for me. Well, don't take away Garrett Collins. Just make it a lot. I like, I love that guy. But there's no Shammelon twist. I'm not going to go to four on ten. Yeah, I was expecting

the Shammelon twist and I didn't get it. But there's not. I was pissed. There's no choice anywhere in this. Yeah, there's no twist at all. Is it because it's a adaptation? Do you think he left a twist out? No, no, because the old was. an adaptation and he added fucking 10 more minutes of shit that wasn't in the graphic novel. Yeah, but there wasn't really no twist in there either. Yes, there was.

Yes, there was. That wasn't in the book? Yes. None of that shit was in the book, dude. None of that stuff at the end where they were, went where the one guy got older, the guy from hereditary got older and went back as an adult.

None of that was in the book. He added all that. And if this one, he just kind of took the book, the novel. That he went back. But it was a twist that they were experimenting. Because that wasn't really, that wasn't evident in the graphic novel. Yeah, I guess that makes it. Well, and this one, it almost feels more like it's M. Knight-Sharmulon

and his love story to religion. if that makes any sense. And you know what's the irony? And we're talking a long time about a movie that we didn't give great scores to. But the irony is that, like I said, in the book, there's so much given to Eric being a religious guy and going to church and sneaking, having to sneak to church. Because he knows that his partner wants to grow up being a secular humanist. and not believing in without the church. But it turns out some of the church stuff is true.

And the, well, ish. Absolutely. In the movie or in the short story. It's, you know what? It's worth a rewatch. I'm going to go from four to five, but I'm not going to go any higher until I rewatch it. I just, I got mad because there was no M-night twist.

yeah there definitely was not a twist and i but i'm not mad at it because of that you know what i mean like i i think that it was still a solid movie is it something that i'm going to remember in 10 years probably not but uh i you know what i'm gonna put two questions i'm gonna put two polls up on the the facebook group the first question i asked you and then i'm gonna ask people what their favorite what is the best m night movie because i know people people's list kind of very... Yeah, this isn't going to be it. I promise you that.

But... Yeah, well, a lot of the movies that I love from M-N-Hite other people hate. Like, I love the village, and I love a lady in the water. Laying in the water is fucking awful. I know. That's what I'm saying, dude. People fucking hate it.

And obviously, you know, there's going to be some differences of opinion, so I heard of that. I might give you the village with Lady in the Water. Like, I can't, I've never finished it. I can't finish it. Oh, wow. But it's got a great guy with the gas, man.

Jack's awful lot or whatever. There's a lot of movies with All-Star casts that are shitty. True, true. All right, you all ready to move on? Yep. Yeah. All right. This one's good.

I would recommend going to watch it. Yeah, check it else. Just to watch Dave Bates. be a fucking badass actor. Or is this go watch Glass Onion? No, you guys peaked my interest in this. Better than Glass Onion for Dave Batista. It peaked my interest to still watch it

because you guys, given the scores you gave it, you guys had a lot to talk about with it. Right. So I can see this being one of those movies where a lot of people liked it or a lot of people hated it. Yeah. Polarizing.

Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys. But I haven't heard of say I hate Dave Patista because he's fucking fantastic. No, he's great. He's great in everything. This is his breakout role. No, fuck you.

Glass Onion was. I mean, he was good in Glass Onion, but this is, he was in Glass Onion, he was still Dave Patista. All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of horror returns. You know where to find us. Thehorrorterns.com. Please become a Patreon patron.

Next week, is it going to happen, Brian, or not? We shall see. We'll be there. Matt Smith didn't join us this week because he was playing the doctor or being Damon from, you know, House of the Dragon. So Matt Smith, fuck you, asshole. just kidding. No.

Matt would decide. Matt would seriously had some troubles going on in England with the electricity. Am I right, Brian? Is that what happened?

I think that's what happened. But he is promised within the next two to three weeks and trust me, we'll hold him to it if not, I will fly over to the fucking United Kingdom and bring him here to be with us on a future show. But next week, it is the one and only, Al Ramseur.

It is his three movies. He is literally in Spain. This is not a joke. This is not a test. He is in Spain. So if all goes well... He says he's in Spain. That doesn't necessarily make it true. He's definitely a spy. I'm in France right now. But we are going to check out three of his movies that he suggested, which is Brian. He has, I believe he's changed one of his picks.

He wants us to take a look at Heather's, Deadstream, and Sissy, which I have seen all three of those. Well, Heather's is a classic. Deadstream is almost a neo-classic, a great big. movie that we all love this year. And Sissy, I haven't seen. Fucking awesome. Yeah, Sissy is one of those movies. Just kind of be careful

who you fuck with. Ah, I like it. I like it. So, Philip, until the horror returns again, Go.