The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #352: The Year In Horror 1989, Part 2 - DeepStar Six & 976-EVIL

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

This week we make our final trip to the eighties to check out DeepStar Six and 976-EVIL. Cool of the Week includes The Last of Us, Into the Deep, and The Outwaters. Trailer is Children of the Corn. The podcast spotlight shines on That's Pretty Dark. And we get feedback from Salem's Cellar, Steve Carleton, Horror Nerds at Church, Xim Vader, Horror Movie Crew, and a TON of new Facebook group members! Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, all right, right, welcome back one and all to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. And guys, we're only two weeks away from March Madness, and I haven't even sit the invites out. I'm starting to panic a little bit here.

I forgot all about March Madness this year. That's all right. We got our guests lined up. We've got our guests lined up. We've even got one guest that sent a list in prior to me asking for it. So I think we're going to be okay. Awesome. How's it going with you guys? Yeah, it's going. A lot of family shit, a lot of work, et cetera, et cetera. There's one thing after another. Then another thing. Then another thing. Usually is. And then back to that first thing. woke up today and went out to the kitchen and I got a leak in my ceiling.

Oh, that's not good. I had to deal with that after the freeze two years ago. Yeah, my landlord should know because we had another couple snow days, big snow days. You got to keep them roofs shoveled off. Yeah. Yeah, my, Brian,

mine was a little bit more problematic than that. I had a pipe that actually burst in the wall. So it like destroyed, yeah, destroyed the entire bottom bathroom. And then we had to knock the wall out and put a new shower upstairs. And it was a fucking mess. You guys don't really get cold days like that. Yeah, we weren't used to it.

My fucking lemon trees, living trees died twice now. Once that year and once this year, I'm just cutting it down. I'm done. Yeah, when it's cold, you got to, you got to leave the, the sink kind of running a little bit.

Like a little drizzle. Yeah, Philip, you had some pipe problems this year. Oh, yeah, but we're up on stilts and underneath the house is not insulated or anything, so they're all pretty easy to get to. Okay. I pretty much refiped the whole thing. Didn't do a lot of damage to anything inside the house or anything like that then? No, no.

Thank God. But we had Mardi Gras going on this weekend. Oh, that's right. That's right. kids and one of the dogs to the parade and had a pretty good time. Oh, man. That's what I've been up to. Did the dog get some beads?

Yeah. Yeah, I put a few beads on her. Last weekend, I took my nephew and granddaughter to the Mardi Gras at Fiesta, Texas in San Antonio. They were grabbing, they were pushing kids out of the way to get beads. I'm like, slow down, guys. Then we get home and they're like, I said, don't you want all these? beads you grab? No, that's okay, Papua, you can throw them away. I'm like, uh-uh. No, y'all are keeping those fucking beads. You're pushing kids out of the way. Those are

yours now. Yeah, we didn't come home with the hall that we normally do, but I've had giant wads of beads sitting in my truck for months on end before. Oh, yeah. Do you have a Mardi Gras in Alaska, Brian? Yeah, some of the, some of the clubs or bars when it's Mardi Gras season, they'll put on something during the weekend. Okay. You got, they serve like hurricanes and boil crawfish. No, but up there, they boil Alaskan tea crab, don't they? Crawlfish, not so much up here is usually, they try to get it when it's seasonal.

Okay. We do have it up here, but not as much. Yeah, that's got to cost a boatload of money to get it up there from Louisiana. Yeah, when it comes to seafood, we're big on getting it from our own area, then importing it from somewhere else. I was going to say, if I'm going to eat seafood in Alaska, it's not going to be crawfish. Probably not. But we do.

I know a store up here if I wanted to go get some. All right. That's good to know, right? All right. You all ready to move on to Cool of the Week? Yep. Let's do it. Can I go first this time?

Sure. Yeah, go ahead. this can be my favorite TV show of the year. I already know it. I'm calling it early. Brian, what am I, what do you think I'm talking about, man? The show that the viewership keeps going up every episode, every time it comes out, yeah.

This is what the Walking Dead was, like, in its first season, but even better. Like, where they could, people can walk on the ground and touch the spores, and it awakens the zombies that are all, like, on the other part of town, or the infected, I should say, that are on the other part of town, And they all start chasing you because they know where you are. Yeah, that's terrifying. Because the whole lattice work goes underground. You guys know what I'm talking about, of course.

Which is actually how fungus works? Fungus works. Yeah. There was a movie like that a couple of years ago, remember? Where they were in the, they were out in the woods in that cabin. And it was that Gaia or the other one that was just. Gaia, Gaia. And that one zombie movie was with fungus, the girl with all the gifts.

That's right. Oh, it was, wasn't it? I forgot about that. Yeah, but this show is fucking amazing. Like, every week it's better than the week before. I'm just pissed off because there's some characters that I thought were going to last, stick around longer. Yeah, they make you fall in love with some characters,

and then they take them from you. Yeah, unbelievable, without naming anybody. But then I'm shocked with people that I see just kind of show up, like Melanie Linsky just showed up in the episode I just watched. I'm like, I didn't even. even though she was in it. So this is something else. I hope they're able to make it go on for several seasons,

but I hope they don't walking dead it. I think they said since there's only two games, it's not going to go as far. Okay. I think they said, if anything, it would go a third season, and that's it. Okay, so kind of getting into the second game and the third season, you think? Yeah, they said they're not going to, it's not going to be like, Game of Thrones where the book ends

and they don't know what to do from there and then it's... Yeah. Yeah, that would be a mass. That's a PlayStation exclusive, right? Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, because I've got Xbox. God damn it.

I want to play it. I think it's coming out on... Later in the year. Probably. Well, it's pretty phenomenal. That's pretty phenomenal. That's it for me, man. Oh, I did see... Just for you, Brian.

I saw Matilda the musical last time God damn you yeah and boy is it a fucking musical I don't think

they stop and talk for one fucking second of this movie it's like everything they say is a song and today are here it's a song

and it's long and we're here Netflix right uh yeah Netflix the granddaughter I have a soft I have a soft spot for the original movie

because that was that was That was around my oldest daughter's age when it came out. Okay. Or at least when I seen it, you know. So I have a soft spot for that. But yeah, I think I've seen a teaser trailer.

And they started singing and I was like, nope, turn it off. Immediately. Well, it does have Andrea Riceboro, Mandy. The one that plays Mandy. She's in it. And she's been a couple of good movies this year. I think she's up for an Oscar. It could have some marrow weaving in it singing, and I would not want.

Oh, no. That's the acid test. Okay. Moving on. Moving on. All right. Well, I'll jump in because mine are crappy as usual and completely non-horror-related. Although they are pretty cool.

I'm catching up on physical 100 still, that Korean competition. Dude, it's fucking great. I've never heard of it until you mentioned it. And then when you mentioned it, like, all of a sudden, I was hearing about it. Yeah, well, it just popped up on my Netflix one day, and I was like, oh, that looks pretty interesting. And it's cool to see, like, their culture versus our culture, because, like, the whole time,

they're all cheering each other on. And I'm like, man, if that was a bunch of Americans, they'd be talking so much shit. Talking shit. Talking smack. They're like, you can do it. You can do it. In America, they'd be like, fall, motherfucker. Is it just, is it just correct?

Koreans or is there like other people, like other countries? No, I think it's just Koreans, but there is, there's like one black dude. I don't know where he's from originally. And like an American that was a baseball player. Does everybody like baseball in Korea? Does everybody like super jacked? Yeah, pretty much.

And then the like, I don't know how tall the baseball player is. It looks like he's fucking eight feet tall in this show. But I think he's only like 6-3 or something. And it's not big poppy, is it? He's like literally twice the size of these people. It's crazy. He looks like a giant. I was like, well, that brings some perspective to it.

Yeah, might have to watch some of that, man. Might give it a shot. No wonder they're also jacked. And then I watched on another Netflix thing, a true crime documentary. It's all the end of the deep. Oh, Lord. Scary movie in real life kind of is what it is.

It's like this inventor who makes submarines and rockets, like just a private dude in Denmark. He had like a big submarine company or something and had his own private submarine. And this journalist coming on. Like Dr. Evil. Yeah. I guess that's what he was going for. I don't know. Like this journalist came to visit him on the submarine,

and I don't want to give anything away. But they... Okay, well, she gets murdered. She was never heard from again. Yeah. But she was. They found the body, and they figured out exactly what was happening. Because the whole time leading up to this,

he was in the middle of doing a, like, documentary style thing with the director of the movie. Oh, wow. So they were filming all the way up until he went on the submarine ride with this girl, and she came back dead. Yikes. Jesus Christ. And so you really get into the psyche of the whole thing, and it's like, I almost was like, is this fake? It all just seems too perfect. Into the deep?

Yeah, but it's real life. It was pretty interesting. By the end of it, it is like haunting. Huh. Anyway, I like that kind of shit. When journalist Kim Wall disappears after boarding inventor Peter Madsen's submarine, his changing story about her fate, Mask a Terrifying Secret. There you go.

Interesting. Okay. It's an interesting one. And, man, there's some horrifying shit. I guess so, yeah. Nice. All good. Let's see.

I checked out some pretty good movies this week. first one is all these are trailers we reviewed in the past few months first one is Mona Lisa in the blood moon Okay That one was with the

The girl Was like an escape mental patient And she has like Powers to where she can control people Control people's bodies And in this one I don't recognize the main actress But Kate

Kate Hudson's in it, Craig Robinson. And yeah, it was pretty good. No real explanation on why she has powers. She just, all you get is basically she was put into the mental institution when she was like 10. And after she's like in her 20s now. And she just like one day kind of snaps out of it and just has these powers and finds out she can control people. uses it to escape. And she doesn't, since she's been in this place, she doesn't really know how to interact with people or what things are. You know, like, she's never really

watched TV or ate certain things. And she'd be... Like a really dark elf. Yeah. And she meets Kate Hudson's character, who is a stripper, which I have to say, Kate Hudson, the last two movies, this and Knives Out, she can change that character with each movie. And I don't know, I don't know if, I don't know if she can carry a whole movie,

but as a side character, playing these, like, different kind of roles, she's pretty fucking good. And then I thought because Craig Robinson was in it, you know, he was going to be like the comedic part of the movie, but he plays a cop who kind of has a running with her and then he kind of makes it his job to kind of find her and arrest her after they meet because he experiences her powers and it's of course it's not something

you can write on a police report you know she she controlled me with her mind and you know made me yeah Jedi mind tricked me right so it was a now I'm thinking about I don't even really think that was that many comedic moments with him. That is scary. A non-cometic Craig Robinson. I can't believe it. Good and bad, I guess. Yeah. So, and another

surprising, what is his name? Ed Screen. He was the villain in the first Deadpool movie. Yes. Oh, okay. He's a pretty fucking good actor because he's British. And he James Francoed Spring Breakers does this role

because he's like a drug dealer. Okay. And you guys are familiar with James Franco from Spring Breakers. Of course. Oh, I got you. So that's how he played the role. And I'm just like,

British actors are really fucking amazing at doing American accents. Yeah, I guess it's pretty easy. I don't know if it's easy for them or what. Seems to be. Yeah, a lot easier for them to do that than us to do theirs, huh? Yeah, because there's a lot of, you know,

when you see an American actor playing like a, usually it's just some sort of period piece where they don't necessarily have half to have a British accent, but they just do it to make it seem old, I guess. Yeah, it's just, and Lance, you probably dig the movie. It takes place in New Orleans. It looks like it takes place during Mardi Gras.

I'll check it out. Yeah, so it's very timely then. Yeah. The second movie. A new orlid stripper, that's the dirtiest kind. Spoiler, you can clearly tell that wasn't Kate Hudson on the stage. Oh, too bad. And the reason why you can tell is because the camera never goes above her shoulders.

Oh, okay. Because at first, I was like, she's pretty fucking good at that pool. This is written and directed by the lady that did a girl walks home alone at night at midnight or walks home alone at midnight or something. that Iranian director. Okay. And that was a damn good. Well, wait a minute. I don't want to give anything away yet.

Yeah, we'll be talking about it in a few weeks. Had no idea. All right, I'll check it out. Let's see. The second movie I checked out was Blood, the one with you show Honey. Not Blood and Honey. No, I heard that one was not good.

Oh, no. I'm still going to watch it. A lot of people say I watched it so you don't have to. Blood is the one where the sun gets some kind of infection, and the only way to kind of fight the infection is blood. Yeah. Yeah. Why is that a vampire story, maybe?

Yeah, it was a good premise. He actually gets it from the family dog. The dog, like, notices something out in the woods and runs out, and the dog's kind of missing for a couple days, come home. of course he's not the dog's not right you know i would definitely not let my son walk towards the dog if his eyes are kind of have a glowing tint to him and he's grounding so probably getting into some fungus but it really it really makes you ask how far will you go for your your kid because that's basically the premise of the movie is you know she's trying to

she's a nurse so you know she has one way of getting blood, but then when that option stops, what do you do do after that? And then as the movies go on along, his preference for blood changes, like, he needs it warm and fresh.

Oh, boy. And the hunger gets more intense. And then when he doesn't get blood, you can kind of see the change in his appearance. Okay. And it's just kind of her trying to figure out

what she's going to do and how she's going to go about it and you know she's got she's going through a divorce with the husband and you know he's kind of like thinking because she's had

past problems before so he's kind of thinking her problems are back you know you're not taking care of my kids oh I got you a child service you know it's more of a drama than horror but it was it was a pretty good watch so it seems like a cool movie is it

Is it on Shutterbrien or is it streaming anywhere? Okay. Yeah, it's streaming somewhere. Well, I got you. I got you. Because I noticed the other show, the other one's on Showtime. Yeah. The Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon is on Showtime.

Yeah. So if it comes across something, you know. Okay. You need something to watch. Check it out. I can't say I'm a big Michelle Monaghan fan to where I can, like, tell you movies that she's done that, you know, I honestly, I have to really think about what she's been in. But she did a good job as playing the mother in this one.

Yeah, I could see her in that role for sure. And what's his name's the father? It's his name, Billy Loomis from Scream. No shit. Skeet Ulrich. Skeet O'Rich himself. He's getting a little aged at this point, isn't he? Yeah, he's definitely at the age where he's believable as a father.

father, so. Okay. And the... I thought you were going to say Dane Dahan at first. Dane Dhan's going to look like that guy that looks like he's not too old to be a father. Dane Dahan when he gets old is going to

be like Christopher walking. Watch. Oh, yeah. I hope so. We should be so lucky. And my... Okay, my last movie... Good I said that.

And this is the cool of the week, Brian? Hesitantly is my cool of the week, because I still don't know how I feel about the movie, and that is the so-called most effective movie since the Blair Witch Project, and that is the Outwaters. The trailer we reviewed, and we didn't really know what was necessarily going on with the people that went into the desert. That's at the theater here, actually. I might go see it. Send the theater.

It's on VOD. If you have Screenbox, which I do recommend Screenbox, it's the same. price of shutter. It's on there exclusively. Was it scary? I don't know if I'm just desensitized now. So I don't get scared. Was it creepy? There was a lot of creepy moments. Okay. But I did

have problems with the movie. It's about an hour and 40-some minutes. The fucking first hour is all set up to them going to the desert. You could have cut at least 20 to 30 minutes off. I don't need to see what everybody's doing. And this movie's told from the perspective of three memory cards found in the desert. Oh, that's original.

You can cut out the prospect of did this really happen or not because they found the memory cards. Okay. And so essentially they go out to the desert as four people. One of them's shooting a music video. She's a singer. her boyfriend or friend or whatever is a filmmaker he's going to shoot it he asks his brother and his girlfriend to come out there

and help and strange shit starts happening strange sounds strange occurrences it kind of leaves it up to you to figure out is this alien occurrence is happening

is a demonic occurrence is happening I will say when the stuff gets going in the last 40 minutes it's just like crazy craziness, blood, gore. That's pretty cool. But then there's another drawback

because sometimes it's hard to see because it's found footage. Maybe being in a movie theater would help, Brian. There's times when it's just nighttime in the desert and all you got is a beat of a flashlight. Oh, hell shit. It's moving around too quick.

It's not as bad as some of the shots in Skinnamarink, is it? Okay, I was going to bring Skinnamarink. Or it's just a room full of Legos for 40 minutes? Both of these movies have been super hyped up. Right. Super hyped up.

Skinnamarink, we've talked about that. And the Outwaters, like I said, the tagline was, you know, most effective found footage horror movie since the Blair Witch. I would tell anybody if you have shutter and screenbox and you've had to pick between one of them, I'd definitely go with the Outwaters. Okay. I just think there's a really good movie in there

I think it's just I don't know I think this is the guy's first film he's made and on top of that he only made the movie for $15,000 kind of like Skinnery. Yeah but the movie is well made in my opinion with a few

problems maybe it's I know that people are going to have problem with the found footage because it's a lot of shaky cam sometimes you don't see what's going on with the camera. And I think they're trying to play off the fact that shit's happening and the guy, the people are disoriented. So they're not necessarily filming or just holding the camera sometimes.

And the camera's pointing. In the way, that's more believable in a way, you know? I came out of it kind of feeling like it had something to do with aliens. Okay. That's where I came. Kind of like the Blair Witch remake. in other words. Yeah.

I just came out of it. I'm in. I came out of it. I figured you'd be in, Philip. I think it was aliens and I can't say anything else. I'm just really starting getting spoilers. It takes place in the Mojave Desert.

I was so sad when the government started talking about shooting down UFOs. I thought we were already. I was like, I thought we were taking a shit seriously. What are you talking about? You shot down a UFO. The fuck you did. Well, at least they shot down the Chinese spy balloon too.

Didn't we, after that, didn't we shoot like three? Allegedly UFOs down? Because all of a sudden we have the firepower and technology to shoot UFOs down. But yeah, one of them ended up being like a hobbyist balloon. Of course. The weather balloon or something that they track. Of course. Yeah. How about we, if it is UFOs, how about we not shoot them down?

immediately. As they came here to fix everything. As soon as they started in with there's no visible signs of propulsion, it was a UFO and we shot them down. I was like, oh no. Here we go. We're backtracking now.

The government was taking UFO seriously there for a second. Now we're not saying if it was your start track of you. Damn, I should have wrote his YouTube channel down. I kind of watch this YouTube channel and he gave his theories. It was

basically theories from an idiot idiot point of view of watching a movie. I think that's what it's titled. Okay. And he had some pretty good kind of UFO theories when it comes to the movies of what he thought was going on.

And if that's really what's going on, his theory, I'll post a video on the Facebook group. Then I'm all for a sequel. If those were his theories, So they leave it a little open to interpretation at the end. Yeah, because there's moments where you're kind of like, oh, is this like some demonic shit going on? Yeah.

But it's definitely the whole point that people found these memory cards so you can completely rule out that whatever is seen from our perspective did happen. I gotcha. Well, that's kind of what I like found footage stuff, because you're sort of going on the journey with them. Yeah. so like I said I definitely could see people hating this I would definitely like you guys to watch it and maybe we do like a bonus episode because I think it's one of the movies where

not all of us are going to come up come out with the same conclusion so all right yeah sounds good I might go check it out at the at the theater this week I think it's it's going to be there till Thursday Brian yeah if you come out if you come into the theory don't worry about it

Ah, you won't miss anything the first hour. Yeah. The old Thai West syndrome. I think I watched a little bit of, I watched a little bit of Gruson Magazine talk about it on YouTube. Ah, okay. Christopher G. Moore. Mm-hmm. He hated this movie.

Okay. But he came at it from a filmmaker's perspective of watching an unedited film. Because he's, you know, a filmmaker and he's, you know, all about. he just he just he completely hated the choices uh crystal cleveland you know she's been on the show before uh she i don't remember if she loved it or hated it but she was a little bit more not not as i guess hateful towards the movie as christopher g more was a little bit more forgiving yeah i i didn't i didn't finish the review i'm going to finish it later but okay it's it's definitely a very divisive film

I'm just getting tired of these horror movies that are getting hyped up so much. You know, we had Skinnamarink, and now the Outwaters, like, these movies are being so hyped up. I think it actually hurts the film. They always do that. I remember doing that with Raw. It was, you know, running out of the theaters throwing up, and I was like, this. Yeah, I'm like, majority of the movie, I'm like, okay, where are we getting to the part where people are running out? Because I'm not seeing anything.

it's got 45 minutes in. I'm like, fucking eat somebody. I know. That's what I was saying. Do you think the filmmakers maybe like, you know, three quarters of the way through the movie were like, holy shit, dude, all we filmed so far is just set up. Maybe we should get to the fucking point.

Maybe it's time to get to the fucking monkey, huh? Yeah. And like I said, I'm warning you about the outwater. It's a good fucking hour of setup. I think what they tried to do. I think what they tried to do. I think what they tried to do, They tried to make you more familiar with the characters.

That way, when shit goes down, you feel, you feel for them. And I just cut 30 minutes out. That makes sense. So, but. You always got some cool ones. But, yeah, I'll go with it as my cool of the week. Nice. Watch all three movies.

I thought they were interesting. Yeah, definitely playing too, man. And I'm like, I recommend a season that was 20 years ago on Survive. Yeah, there you go. Brian, you got any headlines tonight? I should. It's been a couple weeks since we did headlines. I think it was all DC related, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, oh, did you guys see the Flash trailer? No. Actually, I missed it. Fucking, this movie's going to be amazing. Yeah? It's going to be fucking amazing. Well, they left that fucker in it, didn't they? Yeah.

I mean, they filmed it. It's got to be good if they're leaving him in it. They didn't see his face out, like Superman's mustache. They are definitely flashpointing it. It's the flashpoint story where he goes back and he runs so fast, he goes back in time and he changes things and his mother's alive. The Batman in that time period is Michael Keaton, the original in 89 Batman. Oh, yeah. I saw some other things.

And he says the line in the trailer, because everybody's like, that's your, you're, and he's like, I know, I'm Batman. Awesome. I'm watching the trailer right now. Yeah, instead of Superman, it's a Supergirl. Okay. Okay. And she looks pretty fucking badass.

Okay. It looks very, as far as cinematography and production, looks fucking awesome. Yeah. I'm watching it right now, man. It looks really good. And it's Annie Mochetti who did the It movies is the director. No. Are you serious?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. I really liked him in whatever that other movie was. Oh, he meets himself. He meets himself. Yeah, he's in a different time period. All right.

Sorry, Philip. What were you saying in the Justice League? Well, that was the last movie that he was in, right? Uh, that's the flash. I think so. Actually, didn't, didn't he pop up in spoilers?

Uh, peacemaker at the end. Sort of. Yeah, I don't know that they just showed the back. Yeah. They were like, we can't afford to actually put these actors in here.

Yeah. Oh, okay. So, alluding to that was them. I think it was, I think it was CGI actually. No,

but I've seen Ezra in a couple of things now, and he's, he's actually a good actor. He's a good actor. He just, Apparently fucking great. Just a weirdo, huh? I think he has, like, some mental issues that nobody addresses,

which is fucked up, I think, from what I hear, maybe they're addressing them now because the movie's really good and they can't afford to, like, let him go. I do it, redo it without. I honestly, I think he's done, man. I don't see him coming back. Is this going to die in this when you think? No, they're going to, because he's going to have to fix things in the timeline, I think it's going to, at the end of the movie, it's going to be a different actor.

Ah, okay. Yeah. Maybe the reverse flash is going to come in. So it looks pretty fucking cool. Well, there's theories that the other version of himself turns into reverse flash. That would be pretty cool. All right, I'll check this one out. Yeah, this looks good.

And didn't I see Bat Fleck in there, too? Yep. He's telling Barry you fuck with the timeline. You're going to fuck up shit. So just, you know, going back to bring one person back, you're going to affect the lives of millions. Sounds very spider-man-ish from two years ago. Almost the same exact storyline.

Except he's trying to get people to forget who he is. Yeah. And then he's like, strangest work in the spell and he's like uh except aunt may uh excepts today i want her to remember me can't talk shit about the movie you said you said you liked it and you made you made you made you made steve happy when he found that out although although the premise you got to admit it seems like they maybe would have sat down and talked about this before they started casting the spell yeah all right let's see

first up M. Knight Shyamalan he's been doing a lot of movies from Universal he has signed a new deal with Warner Brothers now and this is a directing and producing first look deal and his first movie

I think it's titled Trap so he already has a movie ready to film okay so jumping from Universal to Warner Brothers I can't imagine that's going to make a huge difference as far as his movies go, because I can't imagine that the studio was like,

M. Knight-Sharmelon, we have to really rein you in here, you know? Yeah, I mean, that's big for Warner's because I know a lot of people weren't fucking with them after the whole taking their movies out of the theater and making them straight streaming, which I had a question to ask you guys, because this has been happening a lot with these studios. I noticed, I don't know if you guys notice, they've been taking, like, original shows off of their streaming platforms

and basically selling them to other streaming platforms, like Westworld, you can watch it on TV now. Yeah. No. You can watch Miss World on Tooby? And I heard the whole reason, the, what is it? What's that show? The Vampire Show, the Kid, Lance.

Let the right one. Dave to Hahn? Or, oh. That one pissed a lot of people off because that one had a fan. fan base after the first season, but Showtime canceled it. Okay, let the right one in.

From what I read, it was a tax thing, because they pulled that from, you can't watch it on Showtime now. Now where is it? It goes back to the, I don't know yet, whoever they sell it to. It goes back to when Warner Brothers filmed the Batgirl movie and then canceled

it for, or shelved it for tax purposes. Do you guys like that, that they're doing this? That sounds horrible. I have doubts that they shelved the Batgirl movie for tax purposes. They shelved it because it was terrible, I imagine. There's a lot of people that were in what Michael Keaton was in that

movie too. It was connected to the Flash movie. Uh-oh. I mean, maybe we'll get a release of it one day, but that just seems like a weird thing. I mean, I don't, or they can't get it. They can't release it because they, it was like a, it's in the, it's I don't know tax shit, but because they did that for tax purposes, they can't later, like five years from that release it.

Huh. So they spent $90 million on a movie, shelved it, and got some actually saved money on it. I don't know who there's CPA is, but you ought to be fired. Now they're, I know Westworld. We need to sacrifice this movie and it will never see the light of day. but it was going to be really great, I promise. And you said Westworld's on Tubeby, Brian. That makes no sense.

There's a few shows that... But is it syndicated or do they have the rights now? They have the rights now. That Showtime show, John Berth, I was in. The American Gigolo. Yes, yes. That was canceled. And I think you can watch that on what's that other free,

Pluto. Oh, God. Well, I don't imagine Pluto is making a sequel to it, so it's... No, I just, I don't... We pay to have these streaming sites, and for tax, like, the Batgirl movie was going to come to HBO Max. You can watch Westworld on HBO Max. You can watch whatever else, and, you know, Oh, my God. You can watch...

Sorry. Go ahead. No, you can watch Lovecraft Country to me. Yeah. What the fuck? That's my point. Like you pay for HBO Max and now they've removed

Lovecraft Country which was a fucking good show. And everything I'm hearing all these removals and shelving stuff is all tax purposes. And I'm like, you're saving money but we're paying money to watch this content. Also true.

You got Jonathan Majors who's arguably going to be the hottest actor this year. across all the films that he's going to be in. So I don't get it. Yeah, I meant to go see Ant Man this weekend, but I just couldn't. I'm going to wait. I got to wait for AJ to get home. Yeah.

Yeah, I hear it's very, this is another decisive Marvel movie. Okay. And one of the reasons I hear is very fucking stupid. Really? Does this movie? Does he die? No, this movie is very sci-fi. Good.

I love sci-fi movies. Do they get too silly to the galaxy? I don't know if they got silly with it, but I think people thought it was going to be like the first two, how they were heist movies. Oh, yeah. And they said it's sci-fi. And I'm like, he's going into the quantum verse.

It looks sci-fi from the... Well, what do you expect? I kind of expect it. I don't know. I expected it that big time, yeah. I just honestly, I think after end-game, everybody wants every movie to be end-game level. and you got to

that took like what 20 years to build up to that yeah yeah yeah it's not gonna happen I'm like I don't know maybe I'll watch it this weekend and I'll come back next week and tell you guys I fucking hated it I don't know but I think we need some new characters and some new origin stories

you know yeah we're getting we're getting them let's see uh Zach Krieger the director of Barbarian and New Line Cinema have acquired the short horror story, the occupant. So it looks like that might be a...

His name's popping up everywhere after Barbarian, which deservedly it should. Yeah. Makes sense. The Haunted Mansion from Disney. Anybody care about that? Is Eddie Murphy in it? Tiffany Haddish and Lekeef Stanfield.

Okay. Well, no Eddie Murphy. I'm out. That's pretty cool. bad, though. And Eddie Murphy movie was bad. You'll have to admit. I kind of forgot about it.

So what you're saying is it could go up from there? It's going to go up from there, I'm sure. And yeah, the ride is awesome. July 28th is the new release date. So let's see. Everybody that are fans of Megan, or as they spell it, Mithrigan. The unrated version will be out on Blu-ray March 21st.

And we talked about how the movie felt like they cut a lot of shit out. Yeah, I'm excited to see the unrated version. Yeah, I can't wait. I'll go by, I'm going to go by. I almost never get physical media. I'm going to go buy the blue ray on this one. I think, Lance, I know you're a big digital guy. I think the unrated version is going to be released digitally before the Blu-Rae.

Okay, I might, can you get it on Apple? Apple then. Yeah. Oh, Mithrigan. Mithrigan. Let's see. I know there was, oh, this one was an interesting movie because it goes back to the movie that you and me met on, Lance. Oh, okay. Kyah, how do you say his name, Kyra Roach Turner?

The guy that made, um, Wormwood. Yeah, sure. Sounds about right. He is doing basically a arachnophobia type horror movie, and it's all practical effects. Huh. And I think the studio that,

or the company that is doing the effects, worked on the Lord of the Rings. Hmm. Okay. So we definitely need to get Ness to watch this movie since he's a big fan of Spider movies. It's been a while since we've had a good one. Yeah.

Yeah. Your boy, James Juan, was supposed to do a remake of arachnophobia, but I think that got added to the many projects that put his name on. He was going to produce it. That movie scared me when I was a kid. Hell yeah. Especially because they used all real spiders. That movie scared me. I'm not afraid of spiders, man. Snakes, I don't want anything to do with snakes, but spiders don't bother me.

So snakes on a plane scared you. Oh, fuck, yeah. What could be worse than that? See, and I'm way cooler with snakes than I am with spiders. Or a snake on a train. Think about a snake on a bullet train for fuck's sake. Jesus Christ, man. Stought that motherfucker out the window.

Let's see. Going back to M. Knight, I'm going to mispronounce his name. His daughter, Ishanna Knight Shaman. Sure. Is going to make her feature. directorial debut with the thriller The Watchers. Oh. Okay, cool. Which I looked

into it. Lance, she's directed episodes of survey. I thought I'd seen her name on there. I think she sang a song, too. Isn't she also a singer? Yeah. Multitalented. Yeah. Raising some good kids. Yeah, we'll give it a try.

Let's see. Don't want to do anything. I wonder if she'll have a twist in the movie. I mean, I imagine everything she's learned was from her dad. It's got to be, right? Although this last one didn't really. Do you think she goes with the twist, or do you think she tries to carve out her own little?

I would say that knock at the cabin, the twist was that technically there was no twist, which was a twist in a manner of speaking, because I was expecting a twist. Yeah. But to answer your question, Brian, I don't know, man. It's going to be interesting to see if she, Kind of does it her own way, you know? I don't know that she'll go too far off the beaten path for her first one. Yeah.

Oh, well, you said she directed some servants. But yeah, for her first movie that may actually get some traction, she probably won't go too far off the beaten path. But like second or third movie, she might. Let's see. Silent Hill director, Christoph Gons, is returning to direct a sequel. sounds like it's a sequel like there may be

red con in the second movie and just doing a direct sequel to the first one oh boy which okay why not right yeah

I guess if you like the Silent Hill movies be on the lookout for return to Silent Hill I don't know why you would return to Silent Hill that place is terrifying Let's see if I got a few more things

We got to post us some pictures of David Cronenberg's series Adaptation of the Dead Ringers Coming to Amazon Starring Rachel Wise Could be good Could be good Did we review that? Oh, the movie?

Yeah Yeah, we did Dead Ringers Which one's that? That's the one with the surgeons that are the brothers, twin brothers. So she, Chris, so Rachel Wise would be the twins, probably. That would be interesting, probably. Yeah, rather than Scar from the Lion King, who played the twins in the original. That's Alfred.

That's right, it is Alfred. He's also Hans Gruber's brother, Die Hard 3. Wow, wow. I totally forgot about that. Everybody knows if you're going to make a remake, you've got to have a gender swap. That's right. I thought the film was okay, but I really like Rachel Wise. Yeah, I do too.

She's going to definitely do better. And we all have Amazon, so check it out. Yeah. I'm ready for Peacemaker Season 2. Bring on Peacemaker Season 2. That is. It might be it, actually. I just posted new pictures of the

Scream movie, which I'm hearing. Okay. Cast members are telling people to stop trying to put out all these false narratives and theories. Because I know people have been posting no synopsis leak.

Oh, well. Spoilers. They're all fake. Yeah. No, that probably means somebody's actually nailed it. And they don't want to get now, sir. Well, I heard, they're telling you stop to build some more buzz. Yeah, I heard a lot of people. Well, it's already on paste out, so it would be the highest grossing opening weekend for the screen movie and a franchise.

Yeah, I would hope so, yeah, with that cast. I think that might be it. I feel like I'm missing something. Emma Corinne, I don't know who she is. She was in one of those. English Netflix shows. She's joined Robert A. Osferatu.

Okay. One of those English Netflix shows. What is like the Crown? Like the Crown? The Crown? Okay. Yeah, those all fall in that same category. Yeah, they do. They do.

And non-horred. Non-horred news. She also joined the cast of Deadpool 3. Okay. Okay. Well, nothing wrong with that. I think that might be it. I don't know.

I'm not seeing anything. I felt like there was... No more M-night news? Come on, man. There's got to be one more M-night story. Turns out he's got another kid, and it's an evil twin. He actually does have another kid. And I think they're...

I know at least they're into writing, so... Okay. And they're both lady doctors, and they both... fiddled with the ladies' privates. That's going to be weird. Didn't we talk about, I don't know if we talked about it. I was just thinking, how's like I go?

All right. I'm sorry, going back to dead ringers, man. They are bringing back. I know what she did last summer with Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddie Prince Jr. Returning. Oh, boy, they got to be old as dirt. And there was a rumor for some sense.

I don't know. People go online and make up all kinds of shit that Sarah Michelle Geller was coming back, and then she had to go on social media and says, my character's fucking dead. It can be her twin. It can be her twin. Come on. Have a little imagination. That's funny. Despite rumors, Constantine 2 is still in development executives at Warner Bros. said Constantine 2 and said a fucking movie will. Smith did. I am legend. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. And the alternate ending where Will Smith lives is canon.

Because that's the only way you can bring Will Smith back. I just wish the dog would live, man. Tear jerker moment. Yeah, but it's also the part that you remember the most about the movie. Oh, for sure. Yeah, sure. And I'm Legend 2 will also star Michael B. Jordan.

Okay. And Will Smith is in it? Yes. Okay. I hope he doesn't slap anybody. Well, if he divorces his wife. You can't need to slap anybody. Keep my wife's name out your

zombie mouth. Oh, God. That would be great if they worked it into a parody movie. You know they're going to eventually, right? It's coming. He's got to have enough sense of humor to do that. Well, and it's going to be a joke for years.

That is it. Is that it? All the news that's fit to prep? All the news I'm seeing. That movie 65 moves its release date back to March 10th. That's right around the corner. Movie with Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren and the dinosaurs.

That can be cool. Calo Red with a fucking lightsaber battling dinosaurs. I think it might be cool because I think in my mind the premise is because it's called 65, what if we were like an advanced civilization 65 million years ago and we came to this plant? Philip knows this is true. This isn't even up for debate. That's what I think it's a solid theory. That's what I think the premise of it is a very solid theory.

Yeah, I think so too. And that's why I'm really stoked about this movie. Yeah, it looks pretty awesome. I'm getting out of that one. All right. You boys ready to go to the trailer park? Why not? All right.

Brian, bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer to talk about tonight? They are finally releasing the children of the Korean movie that they made, I believe, two or three years ago. Oh, yeah. I think it was due to come out during the pandemic. times remember those times is that why they can't it because I like I know that

they it released in Florida somewhere or something yeah I think it it released and then they pulled it yeah so what was that all about was that like to make editing changes

or I'm not 100% sure it kind of sounds like you might a little bit more than I do about this movie. All I know is it's directed by Kurt Wimmer

and he did that movie with what's just the fuck. Dane to Han. Keeping up this trend that we don't know, shit. Samara weaving. Batman. American Psycho. Christian Bell.

Patrick Mason. Oh. He did that. He directed that movie equilibrium. It's like we're playing the guest. game here. Oh, equilibrium was pretty cool. That was a badass movie.

Yeah, but then he turned around and did ultraviolet. I haven't seen that one yet. You don't need to. Okay. I've seen it. I don't remember it, though. That's probably good.

Well, that says a lot. But this was filmed a couple years ago and was supposed to come out and then the pandemic hit and then they pulled it and it just kind of sitting around And then recently, I believe it was picked up by Shudder.

Okay. I'm not going to get into the synopsis because we've all heard the synopsis because children of corn is like a staple to horror fans. And part two and part three and part four and part five. Which Steve said we should do a retrospective. And he wants to come on and do them with us because... If it was anybody... But Steve had to say, fuck off.

But for Steve, we'll do it. I think he said he's seen them all. Oh, God. So I don't know if he's like your Amityville deal, dude. That's what I told him. I message him. I was like, so is this, is this your Amityville franchise? And he said it kind of seems like it.

Sure does. But I think, oh, God, was the proper reaction to that. He might know something that we don't know if he wants us to review. There might be some fun conversations. So we'll definitely get into that, but we do, I haven't forgot, we do have a retrospective coming up soon. It went a poll that we did last year. People wanted us to do the Psycho franchise. No shit.

I don't even remember that. Okay. Yeah. It was like a while ago. I got it on my note. We did the first Psycho, remember? The year and war of 1960? Yeah.

I'm thinking. I don't, never, never mind. We'll just watch the original. I was going to say we'll watch the Matthew, not Matthew Vaughn. There you go. It's fun, yeah. Yes, yes. I was just back on to watch that one again.

I feel like, and hash. We probably didn't give me enough credit. Yeah. I heard Psycho 2 is really good, though. I've never seen. Oh, yeah. Spoilers. I kind of like the whole franchise.

Yeah? I know some of them are kind of like made for TV movies. I think the fourth one was made for TV. but I just kind of like the story they told of Norman Bates. But we'll get into it. I'm down. We'll check it out. We're doing that thing again where we don't really care about the trailer we're watching.

Oh, here we go. I was just thinking that. Children taking over demonic forests. He who lives in the fucking cornfield or behind the rows or whatever. It starts a bunch of children who I don't recognize and it's coming to shutter. There you go. I believe March 21st. So there's my thoughts on it.

Steve, retrospective's coming, so get your, have your schedule open. Find an old classic. Gender Swaps and Rolls, remake, remake, rinse, and repeat. Yeah, because it looks like the Malachi character is a girl in this one. It looks that way, doesn't it? And the one thing I have problem I have with this trailer, I sent you, it says red band trailer. And I saw nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. It's indicated. Just needed to be predicted. Who was the main kid? What was his name? Malachi. Was it Malachi? Who was the other one?

Well, there was another one. Remember? I thought Malachi was the redheaded, goofy one. Oh, that kid that was like holding Sarah Kahn. and was like screaming out, Lander. Yeah. We're in trouble. We're in trouble.

But both of the main kids and the last one were creepy as fuck, man. Yeah. And I didn't see a whole lot of creepiness in this one. Yeah. He actually, fun fact, but not so fucked back. But he actually in that scene where he was holding Linda Hamilton, you know, he was like grabbing her face. He actually like fucking was bruising her out because he was so into it. Holy shit.

The red-headed Malachi, right? I'm looking it up. I might have to... We are so good. We are just the... Exactly the right three guys to be doing a horror movie podcast. We know everything.

T-shirt coming soon. Oh, yeah. Coozy's coming soon. Philip, you're right. The red-headed guy was Malachi. The main kid was Isaac. Isaac. Isaac.

Okay. Okay. See, Nez, this is why you need to be on. You would have been like, you fucking idiots. Yeah, yeah, Nes would have said, look, it's fucking Isaac and then Malacaz's the redhead. That was hell of good. That was probably in a hell of good category, I would think. 10 on 10.

But, I mean, it's, we all have shutter. He's going to hate the remake. Well, we're going to, we're going to watch it. I just hope it's not as bad as, um, uh, fuck, the one last year. Firestarter. Fire Starter, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Oh, they were so wrong.

The Razies. You see that story where they nominated the little girl for worse actress? Uh-uh. Oh, the little girl from Fire Starter? Yeah, and everybody was like, she's fucking 12 years old. And then the Razies were like, yeah, you're probably right. So they took, they withdrew her name? Yeah.

They're like. Well, fuck that. If she's bad, she's bad. Whether she's an infant or a toddler or a 12-year-old or what? She's not developed in her acting yet. No excuse. No excuse. No, kids should be excluded.

If you're like 16 or 17, then fucking give them a razzie. Unless your name is Lulu Wilson. That's right. That's right. What's the new girl now that's in everything? The little one? No. Never mind.

Going back to, we don't know, shit. Shall we move? Shall we move on to feedback? The children of the corn. Nobody gives a shit. Let's go. Yeah, feedback. Feedback.

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A team of Navy personnel stationed at a temporary base at the bottom of the ocean and tasked with setting up nuclear missiles discovers a huge underwater cavern which houses a giant prehistoric creature. Great premise. Director is Sean S. Cunningham, also known for Friday the 13th. Writer is Jeff Miller, based on a story by Lewis Abernathy. Writer Louis Abernathy sold his script at the same time that friend James Cameron was working on his own underwater monster saga. What?

whole. Despite Cameron's asking that he delay this movie to avoid competing with the abyss, Abernathy went ahead and was thereby deemed persona non grata with Cameron and associates

until they patched together their friendship when Abernathy accompanied Cameron on the September 1995 filming of the Reck of the Titanic for Titanic. What an asshole.

Who, James Cameron or this guy? Yeah, hold up making your underwater movie so I can make my underwater movie. Right. Well, that was, oh yeah, that's good point. That's kind of like Rose not making room for Jack on the floating door there. Did you see some super smart scientist people? They put out a video saying technically, scientifically, scientifically, he could. have been on there with her?

I heard you talk about that a couple of weeks ago. I'll have to check that out. That's big door. Anyway, Kane Hodder, who plays Jason Voorhees and several Friday of the 13th movies was the stunt coordinator for this film. Nice. That's cool. All right. Lance, you want to get us started on Deep Star 6?

Yeah, I thought this is a pretty fun movie. was a lot like, it's funny you should mention James Cameron with his involvement in some of the alien franchise, but I thought this was a lot like, you know, alien underwater where you kind of had the paranoia and you had the types of settings and, you know, the equipment and the different vessels and stuff like that. And then they came upon something that they, you know, that they probably shouldn't have come upon. Philip, you probably don't find it hard to believe that somewhere deep in the ocean there might still be prehistoric beasts. Wouldn't you agree that's a possibility? There's all kinds of stuff that we definitely don't know about. Yeah.

We just haven't been down that far, right? Yeah. Or spend any amount of time. As ridiculous as the Meg was, that movie, there used to be shit like that. And the ocean's so big and vast and deep and unknown that doesn't surprise me. We were just fucking drilling one moment and then the leash hell the next moment. Yeah. I mean, definitely not harder.

Sharks are older than trees. Did you know that? I had no idea. I think I didn't just make up that fact. Holy shit. Well, we'll just say you're right. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah, no, I thought it was a beautifully designed, you know, set piece. I thought it was everything worked really nice together. It was believable. And when you consider this was made in 1989, I think it was incredible. I think it was incredibly well shot. And you can tell they put a lot of love and care into making the movie. No wonder he didn't want to push the date back. You know, this was his labor of love.

This is the same guy that directed Friday the 13th, the original, where the mom was the killer. And what else? House. Oh, shit. Okay, that's a good one too. That is a good one. Yeah, no, I'm a fan. Both of those are totally underrated because the sequels got silly.

Yeah, especially with the cow. Boy in Part 2 and all that. I love that movie. Yeah, it was a, it was a visually pleasing movie. The only disappointment I have about this one is that the monster, kind of the same thing you said about the outwaters, Brian, where the action doesn't really

step up until like an hour into the movie, where you actually finally see the monster, but I don't know, I kind of, like I said, I like that slow burn aspect. I like the way that they kind of built everything up, I love the character development. Was it a little bit silly, you know, to think that each one of them was sexually paired up with somebody else on the ship?

You got to do something down there. Well, I was going to say, yeah, I can suspend beliefs. It's not totally unheard of, I mean. Well, it is a Navy vessel, though, Philip. I mean, it's a little bit more. And I'll tell you what, that was like. They would at least be discreetly banging each other. There you go.

Instead of going into the fucking mess hall and, like, mugging each other. other. I mean, it was a Navy vessel, but it kind of seemed like they were in a lot of them were like independent contractor type. Yeah. I can see that. But I will say this. The captain was,

all the fucking you can do then. The captain was super laid back. Captain was super laid back, wasn't he? Captain was cool. You know? The the captain from Alien 2. Was that the captain from

Andy's the guy? He had the same damn cigar, I think. James Cameron's like, I'm going to rip you off again, motherfucker. Far and away, far and away my favorite character, though, and this one was Miguel Ferrer, because he kind of did provide the comedy relief,

you know, especially when he, like, started freaking out and fucking up and having those weird visions. And they injected them. Whatever they injected them with didn't work very well to call them. They ain't given enough.

They should have given him the whole bottle. They should have sat his dumb ass in the corner. After he fired the fucking missiles, they should have sat his dumb ass in the corner and said, look, you just stay the fuck there so you can't fuck anything else up, okay? Oh, when he did that, and he was like, I follow fucking protocol. I was like, obviously you didn't because you just detonated missiles. Yeah, I don't think he thought that one through because, yeah, you're right.

But we knew it was bad when he pulled out the handbook, the manual. And he had to open up the, the, locked case and hit the buttons one, one each colored button in a row. But just the fact that it said, is it something that's being aggressive? He should have known not to do that, right? You should have at least tried everything else first.

That's like going to DefCon 3 immediately, right? Yeah, well, as soon as it popped up on the screen and was like deploy missiles or whatever, I was like, oh no, don't do that. Yeah, I know. That's what I thought too, man. But, no, it was a, it was a fun movie. it was eye candy.

It was definitely good to look at. The monster design I thought was pretty original. I really hadn't seen a creature that looked quite like that, which was nice. I knew there was going to be that James Bond ending where they're floating out there in the middle of the ocean and all as well. But then, of course, you know, something's going to happen. They also had that DeusX Machina like they had a Jaws the Revenge where somebody looks like maybe they either got blown. Well, in that case, eaten in half, but in this case blown up. yet they pop up out of the water and come grab the lady love.

That was a little cheesy. That was a bit much, but I enjoyed it. Overall, I enjoyed the movie. It's 1989 or whatever. Yeah, what do you get to do, man? Brian, what did you think? Yeah, this was a fun rewatch for me. I haven't seen this probably like almost 20 years.

Yeah. And so it was a good rewatch for me. I love the cast in it. Miguel Ferrer was. probably the standout character, especially when he gets to a moment where he's just fucking losing it. He fucking kills the one guy with the fucking dark thing. What a fuck up. You see, that's what I'm saying.

You're dumb ass to go down there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they should hit him with that whole bottle of morphine immediately. No, they should just let him sit where he was because he didn't want to fucking do anything. And they were like, oh, stop being a bitch and help out. I'm like, you just inflated a man's chest. I like the buildup that it was... Stand up there where you can't fuck anything else up.

I think when I was younger, I probably didn't appreciate the buildup to seeing the monster. I kind of was like, where the fuck is a monster? But, you know, older now, I appreciate it. I like the practical effects of the monster. The music, I noticed this time, this rewatched around, that it's kind of similar to Friday 13th. No kidding. Okay, I didn't even catch that. I didn't catch that.

The scene where somebody's slowly walking up to somebody or, you know, where you're about to do a jump scare or something, just take out the little, just take out that. Really, I don't know if it was the same composer or whatever, but it was, I was like, okay, this is a Sean S. Cunningham film. I kind of can tell that. What was I going to say? Yeah, it's just a great movie.

these type of movies scared the shit out of me as a kid because the ocean is just unknown to you and it just freaks you out and yeah, great fucking rewatch. And this one is now streaming on

stars. So anybody who happens to have stars, you can catch it there. Just FYI. Since we don't condone any pirating, even though we're talking about something on the high seas. Yeah. I figured to at least put that out there.

I was going to say something else about to film, but I'm talking about mine just went blank. It'll come to you. All the death scenes were pretty fucking cool. Yes, they were. They were. Yeah. The captain got his back broken.

That looked very painful. Yeah, I was sad to lose him. Although, you can tell from the get-go this was going to be a pick-em-off one-by-one kind of movie. But I think the-slash-er movie. The most painful death scene had to be Miguel Farrer's decompression. Oh, yes, yes. That was terrifying. That made me squinch a little bit.

I was like, oh. It is the same musical composer, Brian. Okay. Harry Menfredini, he did do. Oh, he did House. He did Friday the 13th, so they must work together a lot. Oh. So there's a other persona non grata.

Yeah. I felt like I should have on that. Now we know. See, you do learn something on the horror returns boys and girls. And a lot of the cast were like recognizable. It's just not by name, but just like I've seen you in this movie, seen you in that movie. Although those two girls look just alike to me. Oh, the doctor and the main one?

Yeah. Yeah. The other one was super hot, though. Well, you've got to have those super hot scientists for some reason. Boy, she was working that machine, wasn't she when she was in the gym? Working that rowing machine. I wanted to hear some Olivia Newton-John in the background with that one. She was the hottest one.

She got killed off quick. Yeah, too bad. What a waste. Share my shower credit with her. But yeah, I have. something else to say about the movie and I can't fucking think of it. You'll think of it. You'll think of it. Well, yeah,

that's exactly what I was thinking while I was watching it. It's kind of like alien underwater. And it was a cool fucking movie, man. I definitely recommend a rewatch on it. I hadn't seen it in a long time either. And so I kind of forgot

everything that happened. And what was his name? Miguel. Ferrer. Yeah. I thought he did a great job. I mean, I hated his character.

Snyder. Yeah. But he did a great job. And he was sort of like, you know, the cipher in the Matrix. That was a great role for that guy, but he was totally hateable. I don't know that I loved the monster design. Hmm. Like, you didn't like a giant flytrap kind of thing going on.

I kind of did. I thought it was very original. Little eyes on the, like, front of its mouth or something. I thought it was very original. Yeah, no, it was interesting. I don't know. Part of the awesome part of the beginning of this movie is that you didn't know what the monster looked like. And so I had all these things running through my head.

Yeah, I expected a big dinosaur or so. Yeah. When that thing came up, I was like. Well, it kind of doesn't make sense the way the initial reactions was. Like, oh, there's something on a sonar coming quick. It's huge. Huge. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I thought it was going to be huge. And then it like came in through the fucking. The door. Yeah. Right. Right. Well, it was huge.

What are you going to do, man? But anyway, aside from that, though, I thought they did a really great job. I think that the monster could have been maybe a little cooler and this movie probably been a lot more memorable. Well, compared to John Holmes, he, it wasn't huge, but compared to us, it was huge. But, I mean, this movie could have been a real classic, I think, with like a really iconic monster design. Right.

And this seemed like sort of a generic monster design. Okay. That's really nice of a knock on the movie, because the rest of it I had a really good time with. And then Cameron put out the abyss. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Like, this is how you fucking do it.

All right Scores Lance what do you think It's 7 on 10 It was fun I enjoyed it Okay Brian

I'm agree with Lance It was a fun movie I liked the cast Miguel Farr again Standout character Great effects on the monster And yeah seven Okay

I'm gonna go I'm gonna go seven also I think... Yes. 7-7. That has happened all the time. Who won? I think it could have easily been an 8

with a really iconic, cool monster design. It maybe could have started off a franchise or something. Which is... I can see that. Everybody there? Yeah.

What's happening? I don't know. My thing blipped out. Can you guys hear me? Yeah. We're still recording. Hopefully it... It says it's still recording.

Was it James Cameron? Yeah, the back of the copy going just in case. Sorry, James. So that happened to everybody. Sorry, Jim. Fuck you all. Fuck y'all. But, yeah, iconic creature design, it could have started a whole series.

And I think that's kind of what this guy does anyway. So that's... Sure. Yeah. 777. Nice. Deep Star 6, underrated classic. Uh, next one is 9-7-6 evil.

Uh, people who dial, people who dial 9-7-6 evil receive supernatural powers and turn into satanic killers. Is that what happened? Uh, when Spike dialed 976 evil, he knew it was an expensive toll call, but he didn't know that he'd have to pay for it with his soul. Did he? I don't, yeah. I don't think that's very good.

description of the movie that's a horrible description um director is robert england uh best known for uh playing freddie kruger of course um riders he has he has he directed anything else um i think he might have did little things here and there oh okay didn't he do that show freddie's nightmares for an episode or two yeah i think as far as like feature link films i think this might have been his only okay so he's dabbled yeah Um, oh, sorry, I dropped the phone. Uh, writers, Rhett Topham and Brian Hedgland. Uh, Robert England met his wife, uh, set decorator Nancy Booth while making this film.

That's nice. Yeah. Stephen Joffreys, who played Evil Ed in Friday night, uh, or in Fright Night, uh, can be seen standing beside a fright night poster in the El Diablo projection room. Good call, back. There you go. Yeah. There's a, I think there's a, was a few little Easter eggs in this movie.

Yeah. Lance, what did you think about it? Wow. Well, here's the irony of it. This is one of the movies that I remember. I remember it like it was yesterday, okay? So I was 89, so I was in college

when it came out. It must have been like probably a year later because it was on HBO or something. And I remember going outside to smoke a joint in my car because my dad was staying at the apartment with me and I didn't want to a joint inside the apartment with him there. And I went back in it and I was watching it.

I just thought this was the coolest fucking thing ever. And I'm like, wow, this is why I'm into horror movies, man. This movie's awesome. On the rewatch guys, nah, nothing so good. This is really fucking horrible. This is so cheesy, man. But at the same time, it's so fun. It's almost like a Mandy experience.

You almost have to be on something for this, especially when you get to the part at the end where, like, hell is literally freezing over and everybody's falling down into the ice and the snow. For what reason, I have no idea. I was wondering that, too. But, man, the acting is so cheesy, so horrible. I'd forgotten it was evil ed.

I actually remembered it as being... Ah, shit. Clint Howard. You guys remember Clint Howard? Yeah, he's too old. Ice cream man. For some reason, I thought Yeah, I thought it was him in my

you know, marijuana hazed memory of watching the movie. But it was some, obviously, some very good weed when I watched this movie. Sounds like it.

Like in 1990 or whatever when it was on HBO. But on this watch, guys, this is some rough stuff. This is not great. This is not a classic. The special effects,

especially the part where, like, the evil ed just turns blue. Like, it's just this weird blue outline for some reason. And then you got the lady in the, her phones, she phones are ringing all around her. And she walks next to a telephone store. And she dies because all the glass hits her in the face and kills her instantly somehow. So. You don't remember telephone stores?

I do, but I don't really. That's a little too on the nose. Brian. Like, you know, I don't know. Why would they put him in the window? It's a store that sells nothing but telephones. This was about it. In the end of the day, this was, this was kind of fun to watch, really.

But boy, was it bad. Oh, and what's with the fucking main bad guy with the kind of blondeish streak in his hair that looks just exactly like Patrick Mahomes? It's like this kid's a fucking dead ringer for Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes had a baby. Marcus. Marcus, yeah, Marcus. Which he's provided me.

I'll wait until it's my turn. All right, well, I'm done. I'm done. That's not much far I can say. I'll go with my turn. He's provided me with the funniest movie. I kind of love this movie because I have a nostalgic place for it because this Lance, Lance, you remember this was on TV all the time.

Time. And I would watch it every time it came on. And Marcus, that scene where he gets killed in the bathroom and the way he screams, as the camera's panning away, sure, makes me laugh because that was the biggest bitch scream ever. Not so tough now, are you, Marcus? Well, dude, he was dressed like Boy George. How tough did you expect him to be?

His entire gang, the guy that was always in his fucking boxers for some reason. Right. Like, man, these people are running around in their underwear an awful lot. Yeah, what's up with that, man? In a closed room playing poker. Yikes. Like four dudes. Yeah.

It appears to be underage girl. Yeah, it was very uncomfortable watching it now because she clearly does not want to be there. And when they're asking her to like strip, you can see her like, I guess I better take a drink of something. and if I'm going to do this. It's just very uncomfortable now watching. And then she's for some reason wearing these

fucking parachute granny panties like a scene before. She's got the parachute granny panties and then earlier the main which really wasn't a main girl

because she was in a movie for like 15 minutes. Susie, the girlfriend. Susie Quatro. She puts on Spike. Fucking Spike. Stupid ass name.

She puts on his box So it kind of looks like she's got the parachute granny panties. Yes, yes. And let me tell you about this fucking spike guy with his fucking little, not even a ponytail, his little pony nub. This guy is the least tough fucking guy. It looks like a Matt Dillon wannabe. Oh, no.

It's like they're like, oh, this guy has a good look to him. Let's make him a thug, a biker thug. put a leather jacket on him and make him cool, smoke cigarettes. All he was missing was the white T-shirt with the pack of cigarettes rolled up in his sleeve and the slick back there. I was about to say, surely Philip Morris Company put a lot of money into this movie because every fucking scene, somebody was smoking a cigarette. No matter where they were, they were smoking a cigarette. There's a scene where he's laying in bed and looking at the paper. and stuff, and he's just got the cigarette

hanging out of his mouth. You tell it's uncomfortable as fuck. It's like smoke is going up in his eye. Right. But he looked so cool. What else? Stephen Jeffreys, I thought he actually, I think he knocked it out with this role.

People have? Yeah, because he was, he played that pathetic, kind of mistreated person. Up until the point where he changes, then he kind of It was like Carrie. That's what they did. They gender swap

Carrie. Yeah. All right. They were doing gender swapping to the 80s. Jesus Christ. Yeah, because his fucking, his mom, I would have left home so long before anything else happened in this movie. Yeah, Spike Tilder, why don't you get your strap on for me? That's what it sounded like he said anyway.

I thought the practical, the makeup effects were pretty decent. I thought they were pretty decent, especially his change throughout the movie. And, damn, I'm forgetting what I'm saying now. Oh, I'm sorry. No, the makeup effects on Eiffel were pretty good. Yeah, his progression throughout the movie, I thought it was kind of cool looking.

This is definitely of its time because. sure they were supposed to remake it but then I think they realized people don't call these fucking 900 numbers no more oh yeah so they can find a way around it you know there's still maybe it's an app now or something you know in the new version we had we had to count down or whatever it was yeah it was also it was before it was before internet porn I think that changed things yeah kind of even have those commercials didn't even have porn he had National Geographic magazine oh that's right well that was of the time sears catalog you know whatever i i really enjoyed his character in a movie because he was just so bumbling like i i still crack up with that scene where he tries to race away on his little

moped and he crashes into the fence then he pops back up oh yeah kids got heart i like it takes a tick and Takes a lick and it keeps on ticking. He is a freak, though, because... Yeah? He was kind of getting somewhere with Susie until the Marcus and his gang comes out and beats him up and then finds her panties in his pockets. Yeah. Like, what were you... What was his name? Hoag?

Sure. What were you going to do with those panties? That's a good point. And why did you bring them to go? see her. I don't know, man. Because his mother has him so repressed. He was like a puppy.

That's true. Yeah. Well, she knew he was watching them through his fucking binocular, or his telescope anyway. Yeah. Because Spike told her that. So she knew what she was getting into. She knew she was getting into a

freak. Come on. Yeah, he's a freak. I will say the lamest part of this movie is the investigator. The investigator. the fucking counselor. Modern Miracles Magazine.

The school counselor, why did she get introduced to the movie and what point did she serve? I forgot they were in it. I know. At no point, because he goes to the school

to talk about Spite. Yeah. At no point. Next thing you know, they're out having wine. But at no point in the movie, if I can remember correctly, does the counselor and Spike ever interact

almost like they don't know each other? Right, right. And she's just kind of fucking introduced into this movie for what reason so they can go to the house that's that hell froze over in and yeah exactly I think you you nailed it Brian that's exactly

what they were doing so they could have somebody hot yeah when she when she first popped out on screen and she was wearing those glasses is that the same girl yeah like as soon as she started talking I was like oh she's a model not an actor Well, I thought I thought Susie was kind of hot for a, I just got kicked out of Catholic school type girl.

Oh, yeah. And then she dies from having spiders all over her? Well, he did say earlier that it was like one of the most poisonous spiders. Did she get bit? I assume so. Okay. There was 150 of them on her. and did not anybody ever find her?

It was a little scary. Did not anybody ever find her? She hasn't been to school in days. I know. I was to say, did she live alone and does Spike live alone? And I didn't see any other parents except the shitty. Spike lived above the garage. Okay.

With a message, with a message tube system. That was silly too. That was silly too. send anything like whole pieces of fish and what was the whole thing with the where we led to believe that it rained fish for real yeah that was the devil's doing that was nine seven six evils doing is that a thing like in the bible or something i think i've heard something about it raining fish uh you're asking the wrong person huh i wouldn't It just seemed like such a weird choice.

I was like, why fish? It sounds so silly when she's talking about. But I've heard of it happening before. I guess we'll have to, we'll make that our homework for next week, guys. We'll have to Wikipedia. But I think there's like some fish that maybe got frozen or caught in something and failed. I don't know. Oh, it totally makes it a water spout.

It's like a tornado over the water. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Kind of like sharknato. Some fish away on. yeah exactly shark data anyway but yeah

it's like a weird choice this is a I guess you can call it a guilty pleasure even though I don't believe in guilty pleasures because I'm never guilty about anything I watch or feel guilty so but definitely if you had to categorize it

you can put it in that it's not a great movie but like you said Lance it's it's fun to watch it's a guilty pleasure because you know it's bad, but you love it anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree.

As soon as the movie started, I don't know that I had ever seen this one before. And as soon as it started, I was like, man, this is going to be really fucking dumb. And it totally was, but I had a really good time with it, too.

I know. That's the problem, right? All the characters were over the top. The mom was a fucking cartoon character. And, but I liked, I liked the creature effects when they had, Ed, evil Ed.

And I thought he did actually a really fantastic job in this movie as far as acting goes. He was so corny. He was. Like, I kind of hated him at the beginning because he was like so over the top corny. Like the second time he entered, erupted the card game. He was like,

I have a pair of hearts. Hearts. Can I get it with a pair of hearts? I was like, oh, yeah, okay, Freddie definitely directed this one. Oh, yeah, good point. Good point. Good point. And I think there was

a lot of little Easter eggs and throwbacks to other horror movies because he's a horror fan, man. He's a horror icon. There was a Clockwork Orange poster in the room they were playing poker in, you know? Yeah. And so I think this was maybe just his little love story to horror. And especially at the time that it came out, this totally makes sense.

And I had a lot of fun with it, man. I don't think it's maybe as bad as... It really is. Sports probably reflect. Oh, my God, there's a sequel. I know. I heard there is a sequel. Came out at 92.

It's called 976 Evil 2, The Astral Factor. Okay, well, maybe it'll explain everything. Are you sure it's not a little? Patrick O'Brien reprises his role as Spike. Oh, God. And at that point, his career ended. It does. It sounds like a porn parody.

Astral. Yeah, it depends on how to spell Astral. Is your main guy there? I'm sure it's not. It might be. might very well be. Wouldn't be the first one. All right.

So let's do scores on this one. Lance, what do you think? I hate to say this, man, but I got to give it a five and a half. It gets above the halfway mark for me just for pure fun cheese, especially that frozen hell at the end of it. Cheese.

Great. Yeah. Cheese is it. That's it. That's the word. Brian? I'm going to be fucking wacky and say this is a seven out of ten. Holy shit.

Shit! Jesus Christ, dude. I have fun with it. I've seen it many times. I own it. All right. Well. So, but I need to see this sequel because... Well, I'm sure you'll be talking about it for your cool of the week next week. Does the number not leave Spike alone? Does it keep calling him? Poor Spike.

Yeah, I was going to say, the only soul it took was it. kids. Right. Didn't taste my name in the movie. I don't know what the fuck his name was. Hogue. Oh, hoax. Oaks. Oh, hoax. Yeah, H-O-A-X, hoax. Hoax. Is that his name? That's his name. That's his name in the movie.

That's an interesting name. Yep. Spike and hoax. Cousins. Yeah, well, definitely over the top. 80s cheese. But I'm going to give it a six. I think. All right. All right.

Cheesy and fun. Hey, it's directed by Robert England, his future director. If you're a horror fan, you should at least check it out just for that reason. Oh, yeah.

Everybody check it out. Everything we're saying is with love. And Stephen Jeffries, everybody knows him as Evil Ed from Fright Night. So if you're a horror fan, there's reasons to check this movie out. You may not like it.

You may think it's so dumb, it's fun. But I definitely say it's worth checking out. I'm surprised he hasn't done more shit. I think who's Stephen Jeffries or Robert Annan? I think he had something happened in his life where he had to quit acting for a minute. And then he got back in later. I think he still acts, but I think something happened to where he had to get out of it. Yeah.

Well, maybe we'll seem at Frightmare one year, right? Yeah. I would love to talk to me. We get a sound bite. I would too, man. I would bring my 976 Evil Blu-ray for him to sign. I would go buy one for him to sign or a poster. No kidding.

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It helps keep the lights on, helps get us all to Texas Frightmare and all that fun stuff. So next week, it's back to the movie theater for the very highly anticipated. What movie, Philip? all right chill under the corn oh cocaine bear yes yes and we are

oh and also grizzly and we are going to be joined by Matt Wood but unfortunately Doctor Who himself Matt Smith can't make it you don't know that well he might

I mean if the TARDIS shows up when Matt Wood shows up I'm going to have so much more respect for Matt how fucking amazing would have be if we're just talking to Matt and then out of the side of the screen Matt Smith just pops over and be like, hey, how you doing? We should have just acted like he was going to be on the whole time.

And then at the last minute, been like, oh, well, he had a scheduling conflict. I'm so sorry. Yeah, wouldn't be the first time. But, uh, Brian, until the horror returns again, good night.