The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #353: Grizzly (1976) & Cocaine Bear (2023)

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

This week, Matt Wood from Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotless Minds joins us as we talk about the brand new Elizabeth Banks movie Cocaine Bear as well as 1976's Grizzly. Cool of the Week includes Proj...ect Wolf Hunting, Bigfoot the Lost Coast Tapes, Plane, The Houston rodeo carnival, and the Steelbook edition of Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter. Trailers are The Pope's Exorcist, Sisu, and Boston Strangler. The podcast spotlight shines on Percolated Media. And we get feedback from Patrick Lear, Ricky Morgan, and Kevin Nez. Let's welcome our newest listeners: Stephanie Whitacre, Ashlyn Faye Everett, and Sean Haitz. And a VERY SPECIAL feedback question from our super fan Xim Vader. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

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Starting point is 00:00:10 victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. The horror returns, I am Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip. And we got Doctor Who himself is here, Matt Smith, I think. Is that right? That's right, all the way from the UK.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You bring the TARDIS? I did. Okay. Somewhere in the mat. I don't know what that was. All right. We got Matt Wood from eternal darkness of not so spotless minds. Well done.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And multiple DJ gigs. I guess you're still doing that. Yeah, I am. It's slow down a little bit just because of, you know, COVID and stuff. But yeah, I'm still getting out there, a few gigs occasionally. but yeah keeping people rocking good deal man what's uh what's coming up on eternal darkness what do you guys have planned next well um i had a bit of bad news my mother passed away back in the end of october so basically i didn't watch anything and especially horror it's weird just
Starting point is 00:02:04 just don't watch anything along those lines at all um and we just i sort said to okay is okay just kind of have a bit of a break for a couple of months just so I can get my head sorted. And she was cool. And yeah, so we didn't do anything for November and December. But I was still keen to get back in the game. And we just did our end of year,
Starting point is 00:02:33 you know, list, you know, top tens and stuff. Sure. Which we have to say that. Yeah, you got to do that. I mean, it's the best, it's the best show of the year. So yeah, I was very determined to get on with that and do that. So we've done that. And then we're actually recording tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So back to back. Good. Good timing, which is good. So yeah, so we're getting back into the game and doing stuff again. So yeah, it's all good. And what films are you covering tomorrow? Kate's choice is The Prisoners with Jake Jillinghall. Oh, I just watched that not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's really good. I mean, it's great. Great cast, though. Yeah, really good cast.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Same director of the Dead Dune, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So, yeah, so that was her choice. And my choice, pre-2000s, was Lucho Fultchie's, a cat in the brain. Cat in my brain? Cat in the breath. I was getting confused.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You ever seen that one, Brian? no but I'm putting it on the list so I can be ready for the episode all right if you're trying to if you're found a fulci get in the brain Philips
Starting point is 00:03:50 it's yeah it's just his insane craziness gore of all Italian you know head squashing
Starting point is 00:04:00 chainsels yeah pretty good if you like your gore effects perfect so okay cool
Starting point is 00:04:08 yeah it's uh I've done it Ellie would know that one for sure. Who else is really... Oh, Duncan McLeish would be really familiar with that one. No doubt. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Well, you know how we start, man. I know it's... Absolutely. It's at 2 a.m. where you are or something like that. So, appreciate you being a... It is... 20 past 11 p.m. You don't have to pull the curtain back too far.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I was trying to create an ambiance fan. It's past the bedtime. The booze is rolling, so we're all good. All right. Make sure you're nice and hung over for tomorrow. You'll be all right. What's your cool of the week, man? We might be cool in the year for you because, as you were reminding us,
Starting point is 00:04:52 you haven't been on in a while. Well, it's weird. Yeah, end of last year, didn't watch much. This year, I've been going full guns for new releases. I thought, right, and I've been really keen to watch stuff. So I've watched about 30, 20-23 releases. far. Nice.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I've got it. It's pretty good, good going. And one of those is Project Wolf Hunting. And you guys seen that? Watched it the other day. I did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So this is a South Korean film. I think it's Kim, I don't know, I was going to say, Jim Johniel. I was going to say Kim John, then, right?
Starting point is 00:05:37 It was his movie. It would be the only movie they're watching. Right. mandatory attendance Kim Hong son I think you're glorious
Starting point is 00:05:49 leader let's not go down that route I think I think it's okay to make fun of North Korea just like I think it's okay to make fun of Nazis as we're going to do in the trailer park tonight absolutely absolutely
Starting point is 00:06:09 Anyway, back to this, it's basically prisoners of war being transported from the Philippines, I believe, to South Korea. And I don't want to say too much, but let's just say they managed to escape these bloody violent killers. And then they run into something which is also being transported at the same time. and it's basically like a South Korean Terminator, I would say. Interesting. But I don't really, I don't, because it's new. Oh, wow. I don't want to say much else other than it is termitory.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yes, absolutely. It's full on. The gore's really, I mean, it's just everywhere. I mean, think of, oh, that was the one, the virus one that came out last year. Is in my bloody top ten as well? Yeah, the sadness. Oh, okay, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's that kind of level of shit lately. Yeah. It's that level of goariness, so it's, yeah, it's pretty fun. So that's X and so I highly recommend you watch that. That's one. And the other one actually, it's an old one is Shawshank Redemption, which I'm sure. One of my all-time favorites. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 We were up in the Lake District, me and the family, and me and wife said, oh, let's just wet some and sit by the fire and watch this. And, oh, what a great film. Just bliss. This is what it is. It's one of my old-time faves, too. So that's cool the week.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Not so cool. No. Everybody's been laying into this film, and rightly so this is fucking shit I started watching Skinnamarink ages ago
Starting point is 00:08:08 and I had to stop and then start and stop and I stopped and eventually I just stopped completely and I thought look I've got to see what this is all about so I was told to turn off the lights wake up the sound
Starting point is 00:08:21 like really whack up the sound and there's no one else in the house right which created a bit of a better ambiance but okay it's still fucking shit it's still sucks
Starting point is 00:08:33 it's so fucking boring I haven't tried to get really yeah you've got to yeah you've got to prepare yourself because it is it's slow nothing really happens and it's only an hour
Starting point is 00:08:48 and 15 minutes isn't it bro? No it's longer than that it's like three hours isn't it? It feels like it it might even might have felt longer from Matt since he had to keep stopping it
Starting point is 00:09:00 and coming back to it. Right. Well, yeah, I had to leave it for two weeks, literally. Right, I'm going to have to start again and go from the top. But it is, I mean, I appreciate what the director was going for, but it's not one for me. Yeah, I need things to happen in my films. Yeah, the idea was there.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It just makes something happen that idea. Yeah, the concept is there, just the utilisation. it was just a bit of shit. So, right. Yeah, I was, not to cut you off, man, but I was thinking maybe this would work if it was like a 20-minute VR kind of experience. Oh, absolutely. Kind of put you in that atmosphere because they really try to play off of that, that fear you had as a kid of the darkness and hearing things and what you might think is out there. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. A full league feature. no. Yeah, a short would have done it, I think, and even then it would have been the struggle. So if you haven't watched it, I mean, look, I'm not going to yuck anybody's yum, but try it and see what you think. But for me, it's, I know already it's going to be in my bottom five. Well, everybody, like personally heard talk about it has not had great things to say about
Starting point is 00:10:27 it. It's all basically that reaction right there. I think you almost have to watch it just based on how much it's been talked about. Because there actually is people that love this movie. I haven't had one. I don't know about love. I mean, they're out there. They're out the critics.
Starting point is 00:10:47 They might be hate listening right now, cussing us out right now. Oh, God. Could be. We might just see. Both of them. So that's me. All right. I'll jump in.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Okay, so I went ahead and got screen box because I was watching. Brian, this is going to be a long night. Because I wanted to watch that one that Brian, you were talking about where they, the outwaters. The outwaters, yes. So I watched that, and it's definitely fucking weird. And I think I like where they were going with it. but there was like too much
Starting point is 00:11:33 shit you can't see. You know what I mean? Did you really, did you enjoy the little tiny circle of light that was going on? That shit pissed me off. Like by the end of the movie, I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:46 dude, I can't do this anymore. And then I started watching another movie that was doing that same concept and I turned it off. I was like, I'm putting up to that. I don't like not being able
Starting point is 00:11:56 to see what's going on. Not your favorite, huh? Um, aside from that, I think it was a cool concept. I don't know what was happening. I guess he got trapped in an altered it dimension, some kind of time loop thing. I watched a video. Spoilers for anybody. Just kind of skip ahead a couple minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:20 The guy, he came up with a theory that, you know, the loud booming sounds were actually an alien invasion going on in the background. Oh, wow. Did you get that at all, Philip? No. Like everything they were hearing and experiencing was they were in the midst of an alien invasion. That's what all the loud booming sounds was in the background. Huh. That is strange.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I mean, I don't know. The guy was kind of, it was one of those videos. I think it was titled like an idiot's opinion on the movie or something. But when he said that, I was like, well, that, that, that. kind of wouldn't make sense to some things going on. Right. But there's a lot of the movie you kind of get lost on. Yeah, I think it was definitely alien related,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but it was also like time, space, rift. String theory, maybe? Something along those lines. I'm reading a book on string theory now, Philip. I told you I was going to get around to it, yeah. There you go. It could be a chore, guys, but. It's a weird concept.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And then, so I got on this screen box kick and I watched a found footage thing on Bigfoot that also turned out to be aliens. It was. Oh, cool. What was it called? Something about Bigfoot. I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was on screen box. It was something about Bigfoot in the title.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Man, it was called Something About Bigfoot? Was it kind of shot like documentary style? No, it's sort of. It's like, it's found footage. And they, they go out to prove the existence of Bigfoot. And then weird shit starts happening. Like there's a whole maybe colony of Bigfoot's out there. A big city. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:20 This sounds great. And they're supposed to, so the story goes, they're supposed to be protecting humans from these other beings, which is what they end up with at the end of the movie. Are they in a cabin? Yes. Out in the middle of the wood. Actually, were most Bigfoot. Well, most Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They go to visit this crazy old man. Yeah, they're like making a documentary. They go to visit this crazy old man. He's telling him all about it. But they paid him a bunch of money because he says he has proof of Bigfoot, like a body. Huh. Was it the Bobcat? Goldthwaite directed one?
Starting point is 00:15:00 I don't know. There is one. Is there? Yeah. Is it called exists? No. No, I think he did Willow Creek. Willow Creek, is it called Willow Creek?
Starting point is 00:15:13 No, it's got Bigfoot in the title. Oh, my God. Are we out of our 20 questions yet, guys? The Bigfoot tapes? Yes. The Bigfoot tapes. I think that's it. Boom.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You got it. You got it. And then sticking with Screenball. I watched prey where this kid it's not that prey though so this kid's dad gets killed at the beginning of the movie right and it's like a childhood trauma and so he's like in some sort of program for problem kids and so they stick him on a fucking island and let him survive for a few days by himself because that sounds like a great idea sure sure like straight up naked and afraid style His own kid?
Starting point is 00:15:59 He did that too? No, the dad's dead. This is like some group for troubled children, and that's how they solve their fucking problems. This is a Blumhouse movie, so the budget was low on this one. Yeah, the budget was definitely low. Lower than Skinnery? These are going to get progressively worse.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Don't worry. Okay. Okay. So he's on this island, and he runs across, this, he's like, I don't know, 17-year-old kid, and he runs across a girl that's like the same age, some random chick on the island who says she lives there. Turns out she was from a missionary group a way long time ago, and her and her mom lived there, and there's a demon somewhere along the way.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Huh. Anyway, it's not a great movie, but it's at least interesting. I like the concept. I found the Bigfoot. Bigfoot, the Lost Coast tapes? I think that's it, yeah. Okay. And adding it to my keep.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It wasn't bad. I mean, it's cheesy and it's stupid, but it was interesting. I'm going to check that out. That sounds pretty interesting, especially if there's a colony involved. Yeah. Well, don't expect to see a whole lot. It's one of those. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And then I got into some really bad. B monster movie stuff with the sand. You guys heard of the sand? The sand. There's a party. There's a bunch of teenagers or college kids or something that had this giant fucking party on the beach, right? And when they wake up in the morning, they're all gone with the exception of this small handful of very beautiful people, right? Turns out there's some sort of sea creatures.
Starting point is 00:17:57 whose egg that they found during the party, it hatched overnight and it lives underneath the sand and it's eating them. So if you touch the sand with your skin, you're dead. It sucks you in. Jesus Christ, that's fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:13 How do you avoid being on the sand? It's fucking terrible. Well, I mean, so that's the only people that woke up were the ones that fell asleep in the lifeguard tower. There's one girl. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It's like a movie version of the floor is lava. God damn. Yeah, exactly. Terrible. That's a bad idea. Topless on a picnic table, who is gorgeous. You're selling me. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I mean, she dies pretty quick. Because she's topless, obviously. And then a bunch of people in cars. And then Jamie Kennedy shows up as like the Beach Patrol guy. You're losing me now. Oh, no. You're losing me. Jamie Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I was like, wait a minute. DJ McCannity? DJ McCudity. I was like, wait a minute, I know that guy. The Jamie Kennedy experiment or whatever? Yeah. It's bad. It's a really fucking bad mood.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I found it. It's 2015. Yeah. Not that long ago. But it was, if you're in the mood for some, you know, horrible shit, it's, okay. It's not bad. And that's all.
Starting point is 00:19:27 all I got. So what makes the cut? What's the, what's your official cool of the week? I think the official cool of the week. Bigfoot Island, or I mean, what was it again? I think I found footage movies. Yeah, the Bigfoot lost tapes and, uh, Brian, the fucking desert alien one. I can't ever remember the name of that movie. Brian, what was the official title of the Bigfoot movie again? Bigfoot the Lost Coast tapes Yeah there it is You want to do you jump in it Yeah please
Starting point is 00:20:08 The first one I'm not going to really talk about I think me and Ness are going to do like a Something on a review But I watched that action thriller playing Oh yeah George Butler Jelot Butler and Luke Cage Mike Colter
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yep. Yeah. I kind of, it wasn't really on my radar. I've seen the trailer. It looked okay. No pun intended. Yeah. I got a,
Starting point is 00:20:35 okay. And it, I seem that it's getting a sequel and I heard everybody I heard seen it, said good things about it. Then Nez messaged me, asked if I watched it, and I said, no, should I?
Starting point is 00:20:49 And it's pretty fucking good, a little action flick. I'm kind of glad to see Gerard Butler's kind of gotten out of the whole romantic comedy things and went back to action movies. He's pretty he's pretty fucking good at doing the action stuff and
Starting point is 00:21:04 Mike Coulter just he just looks like an action star so sorry Brian what was that called plane? Oh plane yeah just plain which sadly
Starting point is 00:21:19 his spoilers doesn't all take place on a plane So. Is there snakes? All right, you can come back, Lance. Are we out of spoilers? Come back, Lance.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. Let's see. I watched a few movies yesterday. First one is kind of a PG-13 kind of. It's listed as horror comedy, but I would call it more comedy horror. And that's Christopher Landon's We Have a Ghost on Netflix. I've heard of this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 People that have a movie. I don't know Christopher Lannon. He did Freaky, Happy Death Day. He did those movies, and this is like his family-friendly ghost movie. It stars David Harbor and Anthony Mackey, and then there's a couple. The one actor comedian you liked from Army of the Deadlands was in it. Tig Natara. Tig Natara.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You said this on Netflix? Yeah. Okay. Netflix tends to reuse the same actors a lot in different films, don't they? I think they're on the payroll, meaning every time we get charged for monthly, it goes to them. Right. If you're on Netflix and you kind of want to watch something like, I would put this on, especially if you're going to watch something with the younger kids. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Especially, you know, they'll see David Harbor and be like, oh, it's Hopper from Stranger Things. Right. And Falcon, not really doing anything close to being Falcon. And there was some heart to it at the end, so it was a decent watch. I mean, we're paying, what, 50 bucks a month for Netflix now, so. Sure. Might as well get our money's worth, right? Screenbox is $6.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I think we're okay with that. Better value. I stayed on Netflix because there was another movie that I heard about. I wanted to check out, and that was The Strays. Not to be confused with that upcoming movie, Strays. Did you guys see the trailer for that? Yeah. I'm there.
Starting point is 00:23:33 That looks phenomenal. With Will Farrell and I forgot who else. Jamie Fox, a little R-rated talking dog companies. Oh, yeah. Super. All right. That's all I need to do. Didn't it say from the makers of Ted?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. All right. The strays. essentially it's a black woman who basically thinks to to make it to where she wants to be this takes place I believe in England
Starting point is 00:24:07 if it's not I apologize I don't even know if it even said where but you're going to offend Matt mightily like it's almost like that's why I apologize to meet with me she essentially I thought every English person was named Matt Smith
Starting point is 00:24:24 or David Tennant Come on. She essentially thinks that she needs to be less black and act more white to fit in with the upper class. And she essentially gets to where she wants. And she's so to this idea that she has kids. Of course, they're mixed. And anything they do that she feels is too black, she kind of deads that real quick, cuts it off. And then she starts seeing somebody, like she keeps seeing, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:55 know, out the window somebody's watching her. And essentially it's somebody from her past coming back. Oh, this is the chick from the Umbrella Academy. I'm like, okay, she looked very familiar. Okay, yeah, she was, okay, and then she was in that TV show Salem. Did you guys ever watch that TV show Salem? Oh, she was like the little, the little witch. She was Tichiba, Tichiba.
Starting point is 00:25:19 The same character named from the Crucible. I don't know. Her and that character is Tichiba. She, she, she, it was working for me. Yep, yep, that's her. Okay, sorry. Yeah, she's the main star. She's the only one I recognized.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And essentially, her past comes back to confront her because she did something really fucked up. Okay. And I will say, I don't know if it was meant to be funny, but the ending was kind of fucking hilarious. Oh, no. Didn't mean to be, right? It was hilarious, but at the same time, it was fucking.
Starting point is 00:25:54 up. I'll just leave it at that. I know the reviews on this are kind of mixed. Somebody just kind of compared it to get out, which I got nothing as it being compared to get out. Yeah. Okay. And the last movie, actually, I checked out last night, and it was labeled as a
Starting point is 00:26:19 body horror movie, and it's called Swallowed. Oh, yeah. I've seen swallow. I haven't seen swallowed. Basically, it's two guys. One of them is kind of going away. He's moving to another state. The other guy kind of has a work lined up for him to make money real quick, and it's to carry drugs over the border.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And they have to swallow the drugs because they're not carrying it concealed. anywhere else, but inside their body. And when they get halfway to the destination, they kind of find out that it's not drugs. And I'll just leave it at that. What? It gets uncomfortable. Like a virus, maybe? It actually semen?
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's actually semen? Is that what it was? Yeah. I can't say anything because it. Alien semen. It was. It wasn't one. I thought it was going to be, I mean, it was revealed to be.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And they swallowed it and didn't hide it somewhere else. Very homoerotic. Well, the two main characters are gay. So this was directed by, I can't remember the director's name, but he did that movie The Ruins a few years ago. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 This sounds horrible. It actually was pretty good. It was kind of uncomfortable. The ruins was pretty good. The reveal of what they had was kind of left field. I don't know how we broke Lance so quickly. You really don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Man, geez. This film, Brian, you're killing that. What was that? the description of this film, man. You're absolutely killing me. That they ingest something that they thought it was one thing and turns out to be another thing.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I hate it when that happens. Probably happens at the fast food window more times than you'd care to admit. Oh. God damn it, you got me again. The only recognizable person
Starting point is 00:28:50 that shows up in this movie is Mark Patton. from Friday of 13th, I believe, the second one. Oh, okay. So not a spring chicken then if it was the second. No. Okay. Who is the actress?
Starting point is 00:29:05 I've seen her before. Oh, thank you for bringing her up. Because when she popped up, I was like, who was this? And I looked at Jenna Malone. Yeah. Oh, okay. I did not recognize her at first. And then after the movie was going,
Starting point is 00:29:22 I was like, you look familiar like I've seen her. and I popped up. It was Jenna Malone. So she's in it for a good portion of the movie. She picks her strange roles. Yeah, but the reveal of what it is, I was just like. I know what?
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's the stuff from that movie we saw the stuff, right? It would be a completely different movie if it was the stuff. But I will say as far as like body horror, I wouldn't label it as body horror. Yeah, okay. You're not going to see no Cronenberg. David or Brandon as bodybook.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So that's not something that expands inside their bodies and tears them apart or anything like that then? No. I don't really say. No. Huh.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Or maybe. I don't know. Interesting. I'm out. And I think that's it. Yeah, that's it for me. All right. Well, you guys had a lot more active
Starting point is 00:30:22 active week than I did with watching. So I didn't watch too much this week. I guess my cool of the week will have to be the taking the granddaughter to the rodeo carnival.
Starting point is 00:30:34 That was a lot of fun. Of course, you know, it's a complete rip-off. You know, like you go and play the games and stuff like that, and I swear, I threw a ball into one of the baskets and it was in there two or three seconds
Starting point is 00:30:47 and then the ball popped out. I swear it sat in there for over two seconds. but who knows how they do that. There's a little person underneath that just... Yeah. Midget's hiding underneath or something like that. Yeah, it's a rip-off like, you know, $20 for a... Since when have turkey legs been $20 is what I'm surprised?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Inflation. And that's more than inflation. Yeah, they're pretty damn good. And they had a corn dog. Those are pretty good. But, uh... Was those $15? I think 1578 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So you're right there. But we had a good time. I've probably been doing more guesting on podcast this last week watching movies. I've guested with Bean and Marcy a couple of times. Well, once with Bede for a Living Dead episode where he forced me to watch these horrible 3D versions of the Living Dead. They were basically going like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know those early 3D movies? They like to bullshit at the screen. Well, that's what's so horrible. These weren't early 3D movies. These were made in like the fucking 90s. You know, one of them had Sid Haig in it. And I was like, okay, that's kind of cool. I think I see no one.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Go to memory lane a little bit and see Sid Haig. And then the second one had Jeffrey Combs in it. So, you know. I think I see that one too. Yeah, it was basically those two around a cast of complete unknown. So those were definitely the not so cool of the weeks, but I guess cool of the week was getting to hang out with Bede
Starting point is 00:32:28 for that one. And then I went on a TB Tuesdays episode with him and Marcy that you guys need to listen to. So we missed you. So actually Cynthia Rothrock, Brian told me to tell you she missed you. As of course, she should always miss me.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You know. I've seen her in a while. Yeah, I know. She said she wanted to hug up with you next time. She didn't commit to nightmare though she said martial arts legend she she probably had the mom jeans going on in that movie she had a lot going on in that movie brian but uh yeah pretty such a busy week i'll have to i'll have to give cool of the week to the to the opening uh weekend of the rodeo carnival there we go but next week it's got to be even more epic right philip yeah i don't know what the rodeo is no fucking your house
Starting point is 00:33:21 Oh, I got you. 17 or 18 fucking kids that live there or whatever it is these days, right? Right now it's just our kids. So I think we're in good shake. Well, there may be fungus involved. So get Mandy ready. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You should, if you're going to do that, you should show them the outwaters and just watch the last half of the movie. Yes. I'm good. Really? You want to do that? So we get to watch a flashlight getting shown around on a black screen? Yes, and watch, watch Lance follow the flashlight.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Maybe you can see more of it. We'll give it a shot. We'll give it a try. Maybe it'll be a, like have a rainbow, some kind of rainbow edges around the side of the light or something. All right. So that's cool of the week. And now it's time for horror headlines.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Brought to you by Brian. Take it away, man. All right. A couple weeks ago, we talked about Eli Ross going to do a full-length feature film on his... Elon Musk. Elon Musk is going to do a feature film. You like Elon. You love that guy. You bring him most. Every week. Him and Dave John, right? Even though he's... I'm going to keep saying it. His certain restrictions, he's...
Starting point is 00:34:45 Some of our posts on Twitter have been taken down for what I don't know. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. the bars. Probably because we're advertising other shit. Probably. I don't know if we were advertising anything. I know. We should be.
Starting point is 00:35:00 At least Benchcast advertises Park Sense. That's bullshit E, Don. Come on. Let's see. If we could get Elon as a sponsor, guys. Could you imagine? The sky's the local. We could literally go to Mars for one of our podcast recordings.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'm going to need him when he causes the robot up. rising. Yeah, that's right. Terminator, Eat Your Heart Out, huh? He's got to invent something to contain the aliens. I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Let's see. Eli Roth, he's doing a full movie on Thanksgiving. The fake trailer for Grand House. Right. Joining the cast is, I don't know who she is. My daughter doesn't seem to care for. Addison Ray. I think she's like a influencer. Nah. I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Most of us, I think. Yeah. Is she from the UK? Is she from the UK by any chance? I don't think so. I don't know where she is. I feel like I've heard the name. Yeah. I think she's an Instagram, TikTok, one of those, something. An American social media personality and actress. What kind of bullshit job is that? It's bullshit, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:36:22 She's probably online playing Roblox with Logan. I'm afraid, sorry to tell you. He's probably growing up faster than you think. Her and when, well, this name you guys probably do know, Patrick Dempsey. Oh, where is he been? She's actually doing a lot of TV. Okay. Well, they killed him off in Grey's Anatomy, right?
Starting point is 00:36:46 That was that guy. right. I don't know. Never seen Grey's Anatomy. I've seen it way more times than I know. Oh yeah, I know. Your wife will watch it multiple times per episode, won't she? Oh, yeah, no. She's, it's on a constant loop.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Interesting. Interesting life. The tremors reboot from Dave made a maze director, Bill Waterson, has been canceled. Oh. Oh. It's because they made the sand. That's too bad. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:37:18 The sand. It's because they made Dune. And Kevin Bacon, he just recently came out. He said he'll come back and do another tremors movie. They just have to call. Right. I heard that, yeah. And everybody, when they did the, they put out that teaser.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Remember, Lance, they were doing the series. They were going to do a series. And everybody got excited for it. I don't, I don't know. But they keep doing these shitty Jamie Kennedy ones. I don't get it. I don't get it. I think they want to...
Starting point is 00:37:51 Kevin Bacon did an electric car commercial I just saw him in. Did he? He's probably willing to do whatever. No shit. Down for whatever. That's funny, man. Throw him a bone.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Gotta be better than that one we reviewed is there on our very first show ever. Oh, this was really shit. I'd rather watch that than that other one he did with the house. The house? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I never actually. actually watched that and it was because you guys stopped me from doing it. Yeah. Read the book. I will continue to stop you from doing it. Friends don't let friends watch that stupid house Kevin Bacon movie.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Exactly. Did you guys watch it was based on? Did you guys watch, they then? Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't great. It wasn't it? They, they should have just completely left all the slasher stuff
Starting point is 00:38:43 out and just did a psychological thriller and it would have been fine. But they tried to mix the two. And it just failed. When you have that and adding the slasher theme, you've got to have really good kills. You've got to have great kills in it. And it would have just left all that out. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:39:05 We talked about the prequel It series. Welcome to Dairy. Okay. Officially ordered at HBO Max. Oh. Which I'm kind of excited for it because you go back to the 2017 movie. What's the kid that Ben, his character? He was in the library looking through like Derry's past and all the horrible things.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Oh, yeah. I would like to see each episode be something that happened about the time period in Derry. So this is going to be like a different cast then, right? Same person involved, what is it, Andy Mochetti who directed it, him and his sister are involved. But is he just going to produce it or is he going to do some direct? acting and writing. I think he's writing and directing the first episode. Okay. Getting it kicked off. And I don't see why Bill Scarsgaard would not come back. He seemed to enjoy play.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Well, that makes sense. Warner likes to throw their money around to anything, so. You mean Warner likes to throw our money around to anything? Well, so far, they haven't really. really upped HBO Max so far. Give it time. Give it time. Hey, HBO Max is not a terrible one. Oh, it's legit. Yeah, they got some good stuff on it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I still am, I just still am baffled the, the, the, taking the, the, taking the HBO original series off, and then kind of basically licensing them out to other streaming things. Toobie's got a lot of shit. Yeah. Tubby's legit, too, now. Yeah. We can't get it over here. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh, that sucks, dude. They got some, like, legit movies on there. They get it in Australia, but the only commercials they show during the breaks are for dildos and sex toys. Seriously. I'm getting aside. Because when I'm doing Tuesdays, yeah, with Beat and Marcy, it's like we're watching it on their Australian version. And I'm like, what the heck is intimate persuasions or brand or whatever it's called? And then you start seeing these people pull up these big dildos and shit.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Really? People singing into it like it's a microphone. They're like a dildo community over there. I don't know what's going on. I guess. I don't know. I guess it's more of a thing there than here. It's definitely a thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Somebody needs a screenshot, Lance. You're double fisting. I'll do that. Again, again. I'm making it too easy, aren't I? We just. I'm making it way too easy. goes up, we immediately got kicked off at
Starting point is 00:41:52 YouTube. Like a shake week. Hey, look, hey, the geeks are getting kicked off week after week, man, and all they're doing is watching trailers for Fast X. Yeah, I think they figured it out, I think, because they're
Starting point is 00:42:05 live streaming while they watch the trailers and stuff. That's why we just talk about the trailers, right? Yeah, they're stupid on copyrights, though. Yeah, let's see. David Fincher confirms that Mine Hunter's Season 3 will not happen.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah. So people were disappointed about that. I am disappointed. I was late to the party on Mind Hunter. I think season two it came out and I was like, well, let me watch episode one, or season one. And then I binge both seasons
Starting point is 00:42:36 in like two days. Oh, wow. I thought it was a really great show. Yeah, but apparently he said Netflix says it's too expensive to do. And again, where the fuck is our money going?
Starting point is 00:42:54 To the Rock. To the Rock and Ryan Reynolds and... Who else? We were just talking about some of the darlings of Netflix. Who else always shows up another show? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I think what's his name's got some kind of deal with them now, Ryan Gosling.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah, right? That doesn't surprise me. Adam Sandler, lest we forget Adam Sandler. Oh, geez. But his movies don't. cost anything to me you don't think so it costs whatever the cost is to take his friends to whatever country he wants to film right and have a vacation so we also watched blended not too long ago and yeah the only thing i remember from it is terry cruise dancing it's kind of singing
Starting point is 00:43:39 he sings for all to get that's not a bad one i don't really see anything much to talk about or we'll just be rehashing. They're going to do another Hellboy movie for some reason. With David Harbor? Probably not. Okay. Nah, they're going to keep going until they try to get it right. Dave Dahan is Hellboy. I guess we're supposed to be excited because Mike McNalla, the creator, is writing the script, which doesn't get me excited because he's not a, he doesn't write for movies.
Starting point is 00:44:20 writes comic books. Well, give it a shot. You never know, man. You know we're all going to watch it. Well, of course. Yeah. Even if it's Dave DeHan, Brian, you're going to watch it. As Hellboy, Dave DeHan.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Absolutely. Wouldn't you watch it? That is a tiny Hellboy. Yeah, we'll leave it a tiny, sleepy heroin-indicted Hellboy. Is that it? Yep. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Dan DeHon for Hellboy. hashtag it. I just get it. Just get it. Oh, yeah. We'll let Matt get a beer. No last minute stories, Brian? About Dane to Hunt?
Starting point is 00:45:02 No. Or Hellboy. Hellboy. Disappointed in the last movie. I just wish they'd finish that Ron Perlman trilogy. Well, maybe that's what this one will be then. Well, Guillermo's not involved, so. Well, yeah, but if Mike Mignoll, maybe Mike Mignola
Starting point is 00:45:20 liked that particular incarnation of Hellboy. Have you heard him say anything about it in an interview or anything like that? I don't even know what that guy looks like, so no. Okay. Oh, the life of the lonely comic book writer and artist, huh? Nobody gets to see what they look like except at comic book conventions. And then we're usually very disappointed when we meet our heroes. For example, Lance Henriksen, who we had an interview
Starting point is 00:45:50 set up with until his fucking handler to be fair though meeting him was not there was a dollar meeting him was not disappointing so no he's cool guy yeah great guy I got to see it now that's cool yep we get to see him that guy said if you want to do the interview
Starting point is 00:46:08 in the bar after this I'll be more than happy to but we didn't want to kind of take up his time during the day because we had something arranged so we didn't want to Well, that's the thing. Most of these people are actually pretty decent. It's just the minders and the people who look after them. They're like, no.
Starting point is 00:46:28 The minders, that's a good way to put it. I know we talked about this before, but that lady came off. Like, we need, like, everything needed to be running through her. And I was like, you have nothing to do with him. You work for the convention and you're told to sit next to him at the table. Mitch they hired you yesterday. You make minimum wage. She probably didn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:46:53 She was probably a volunteer. They're the worst. They're the worst. They're the worst. Fucking volunteers. All right. Let's get into these trailers. All right. You ready, ma'am?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Absolutely. Big, the small, and the very weird. All right. The first one we're going to talk about is the Pope's Exorcist. And I knew you were going to laugh at this movie. I knew it. This star is Russell Crow doing one of his
Starting point is 00:47:28 accents. Not the Hercules accent, but a different one. I believe this guy's from the witch, Ralph Innocent. Okay. He played the father.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. Okay. Yeah, grouchy-looking fellow, isn't he? Yeah. There are a bunch of other people. directed by Julius Avery. The only thing I've heard about this movie is it's rated R for violence and nudity. I don't want to see Russell Crow nude. Well, hopefully he's not the one nude.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I don't want to see the poor little girl. Let's get the demon in her nude either, man. I mean, we're running out of options. I definitely don't know if I'm like a boat nude. I'm not going to read this whole synopsis because it's kind of long. A portrayal of a real-life figure, Father Gabriel, Amor, a priest who acted as chief exorcist of the Vatican. So this is based off a real person. It's true, yeah, true stories, apparently.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Is it, Matt? Apparently so. I think they said it in the trailer. They said it in the trailer, it's got to be true. Kind of like cocaine bear. It'll be true. Hey, cocaine bear was 100% true. Well, maybe more like 25% true.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Guess I'll throw it to you, Matt. What'd you think? Thanks. Of the three trailers, this is the one that probably I would look forward to the least. I mean, another possession movie. I mean, seriously. yeah okay
Starting point is 00:49:25 Russell Crow he is he is getting better again I think he dipped person I thought he dipped but he is getting better I think again
Starting point is 00:49:35 I think I think I think this could be quite a bit of money spent here you think so I don't know I think the production value should be okay
Starting point is 00:49:48 look we're going to watch it I think we're all going to watch it. And I agree with you, Matt. I think the production looks pretty decent. Yeah? It's just, I think the cinematography is going to look good, but then they're going to throw in a lot of CGI effects in there. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's going to be all right. It's not exactly inspiring. But, yeah, I'll watch it for sure. and I'm sure we all will. I'm sure it's on the docket, Brian. Actually, no, because I think it comes out the same weekend as Evil Dead Rise.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Oh, yeah, we definitely are now. I'm not passing that movie up for the Pope's Exorcist. You didn't want to just flip a coin, Brian? I will make that coin land wherever I want it to land. We're not missing. That's one of my most anticipated movies of the year. All right. Evil Dead Rise, not Pope's Exx.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Oh, come on, man. Well, what did you think, Lance? Oh, well, I saw the documentary that was actually directed by William Friedkin, right? The Exorcist? Oh, really? Yeah, I think it was directed by the same director that did The Exorcist. Wait a minute. Was it William Friedkin that directed or that wrote The Exorcist?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Help me out here. I think he directed. He didn't write it. Hold on. Let me see. The documentary of what? This story? Of this guy?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Lance? Is it? Yeah, what you're saying? Hold on. I'm trying to. No, no, no. I'm trying to, I'm trying to. It's called, okay, it was called the devil and father and morth.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And it came out as 2017. I thought that was a documentary for the Exorcist. Yeah, that's a documentary. It says, father gave, well, shit. God damn it, fucking clickbait. All right, hold on. And it was for two feet for fuck's sake. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:43 What, the delo ad popped up on your phone? Just big edge. There's going to be ads. We'll get to that when we talk about Grizzly. Okay, cool. All right, but in the meantime, all right, Father Gabriel M. Orth. Okay. Performs his ninth exorcism on an Italian woman.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So, yeah, it's actually a documentary about this character, this real-life character. Oh. Was he an interesting person, or is there anything from the documentary that would make you want to watch the movie? Well, let me put it to you this way. the final exorcism so they get up to the church, right? And they say,
Starting point is 00:52:25 oh, Father and Mark, you're allowed to come. I can't believe they pull this shit, dude, especially William Friedkin. Father of Orth, you're allowed to come in, but no cameras. Of course they did. Well, the Vatican's got a whole
Starting point is 00:52:42 laundry list of shit. All kidding aside. I should not. Yeah. Well, I should. Like, they've got a giant library that nobody can fucking see. They've got artifacts from everywhere. It's like the library of Alexandria, but you can't go in there and see it unless you know exactly what you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I'm sure they've got ancient alien bones in there, Philip. They fucking might, dude. But the next, look, the next, then they show a little blackout, right? And then the next scene pops up and he's walking out of the stretch. He's like, woo! That was a joke. that seems to be a rule, dude. I just saw an interview with an exorcist.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Oh, my God. This really happened. This was not really how the fucking thing ended. I mean, you talk about a downer, huh? So, yeah, I'm not looking forward to this either. But I do like the way I respect the way that Russell Crow has embraced fat Russell Crow. There you go. Hey, there you do.
Starting point is 00:53:45 He's fine with it. I'm fine with it. Yeah, so middle-aged spread. Just, yeah. I want to know what Philip, you and Brian think about it, man. Man, I'll go watch it. I love Exorcism movies. Like all these possessions.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I saw two Exorcism previews when I went to go watch Cocaine Bear. The trailers were fucking fantastic. It was this one. The fourth John Wick movie, which looks. Oh, I didn't get that one in my theater. Oh, yeah, it looked great. And then some other exorcism movie. I can't remember what the hell it was about.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But I think it looks pretty good, man. I'll definitely go watch. Plus Russell Crow. I'll always give him a chance. And then I, since I started like legitimately going, holy shit, are aliens really real? It sort of opened my mind to some other stuff. I'm like.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Like, could it be Satan? I wonder if all this other stuff is real. I wonder if it's related. So aliens are the gods. Ah. The demons. I don't know. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Weird shit. Interesting. I mean, so I'll watch it. I mean, the Vatican's got some weird, weird stuff going on. And we're not just talking raping altar boys, are we? Ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh. Hey, they're not the only ones.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Oh, I'm sure you're right. The public school system would put them to shade. Oh, wow. Literally. I don't know. I'm looking at the release date. I actually got the release date wrong. This comes out a week before Evil Dead.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Oh, it's all. If I had nothing to watch, I might go to the theater. But there is nothing in the trailer. It seems like I'd wait for it. No. I think mainly it's kind of, what was that one Phil we watched last year?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Pray for the devil. Pray for the devil. Oh, yeah. It could have worked, but all the effects looked CGI. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Maybe it's just a practical guy. That felt like a super generic story. This is like a real guy. I have hoped. Yeah, but this is what I'm saying, though. The problem is you've got the original possession movie in The Exorcist. Yeah. How can anybody create a new possession movie without going down the same path?
Starting point is 00:56:33 The same rainbow. And you just can't. You can't. You just literally can't. Well, I mean, you can adapt it to a certain extent, but, you know, you're going to be treading over the same sort of stuff. And it's just going to just come off with the copy. of Emily Rose was pretty good. But
Starting point is 00:56:48 I see what Matt's saying. Like, Exorcist, they set the bar. Yeah, oh, for sure. And there's movies that are good, but what do you always compare them to? Just wait till you see the one that's going to be made by the same team
Starting point is 00:57:05 that brought you Halloween ends, man. Come on. But you liked Halloween and Halloween kills. I like Halloween. I like Halloween. Halloween. You thought it was fun, Lance. You liked the kills.
Starting point is 00:57:21 All right. And you didn't talk, you never talked about it in feedback, but I believe, no, in a poll I posted, no, you cannot judge a director by one movie. True, true. All right, April 7th. Let's move on to the second trailer.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Chasing that exercise. dragon. Sisu, if I'm pronouncing it right? Sure. An action war thriller, and the synopsis goes when an ex-soldier who discovers gold in the Lapland wilderness tries to take the
Starting point is 00:58:01 loot into the city, Nazi soldiers led by a brutal SS officer battle him. And essentially, he turns into John Wick and murders everyone. From the same studio that brought you
Starting point is 00:58:17 John Wick. Yes, Lions Gay. This looks fucking fantastic. I'm not even going to try to pronounce anybody's name. I was surprised that this was, when I popped in the, or opened up the trailer to watch it, I was surprised that
Starting point is 00:58:35 it was subtitled. I thought it was going to be subtitled. Is it a Finnish movie? Yeah. Okay. I'm in. It looks fucking violent as hell. it's basically John Wick because these soldiers are
Starting point is 00:58:51 the soldiers are like the guys in John Wick that stole his car and killed his dog like they are the only ones that never heard of this guy but then you meet this lady and she's like telling these stories of this soldier and how he you know he's not the one to mess with and I'm down for it it opens up violently he finds the gold
Starting point is 00:59:12 and then the Nazis stop him and what does he do, he stabs one in the head with a knife. Oh, yeah. That's the moment. I didn't know what this was. Yeah, I didn't know what this was. And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, same here.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I know. And then as soon as he stabbed that dude through the side of the fucking skull with a giant buoy knife, I was like, holy shit. Whoa. Signed me to fuck up for this movie. It was awesome. Matt?
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. Well, basically, I mean, they actually said the most fun you can have watching Nazis get destroyed. Yeah, it looks great. It's my type of shit. Yeah. Just, it's good, you know, far-fetched, but it's just going to be so much fun. It's going to be gory as hell. People getting splattered in various different ways. I'm all in. This is my, my vibe.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Depho. All right. Can't go wrong casting Nazis is the bad guy. And you can never go wrong with gold. So I'm in. All right. Sisu comes out April 28th. And our final trailer is a new direct-to-Hulu movie called The Boston Strangler,
Starting point is 01:00:43 true crime drama starring. What the fuck is there? name. Kira Knightley, Carrie Coon, Chris Cooper. A lot of other recognizable faces. Directed by Matt Ruskin. Let me see what he did, because that name sounds kind of familiar.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I thought it's Ridley Scott. I think he's producing. Is he still alive? Jesus. How old is Ridley Scott? About 112 now? It seems like this guy is what he's known for. producing a lot more than directing. He produced Crown Heights,
Starting point is 01:01:23 the Infotrater, that movie with Brian Cranston. Huh. I don't remember that one. I think he's undercover, some kind of agent. Brian Cranston? Yeah. It's been a while since I seen the movie.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I think he's infiltrating like the cartel and he's like, he's laundering money for them, but he's like undercover for the government or something. Kind of like the mule or something like that? Yeah, but I think it's based off a true story. I think in the movie, it might be spoiling.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I don't know. I think they eventually, somebody finds out his true identity, and he's not, you know, really laundered money for the cartel. He works for the U.S. government. Uh-oh. That's always a problem when they find that out. This movie is about the Reda McGlosson. More interesting than the Boston Strangler.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah, I was just about to say, if you're going to ask me about the movie, Brian? help wake me up later okay i'm gonna wake you up now i'm gonna wake you up now and ask you i go lans huh did somebody say that the boston mangler because that's what this looks like but you like boring slow burn movies yeah boring slow burn movies but not something like this looks this looks looks horrible this is like looks like literally nothing happens it does i zoned during the trailer and i love
Starting point is 01:02:51 true crap shit. I mean, maybe it's just a bad trailer, I don't know. Or maybe they do that so they'll give too much away. I don't know. Yeah, because you message me the other day and said the Scream trailer gave too much away. Oh yeah, Scream gave way too much away. So you think. I'm pretty sure it came a lot of way.
Starting point is 01:03:09 It was pretty easy. Well, did you think Billy Loomis had any connection in the previous movie? Going into it? No. I had no idea. Okay. So you think they might get me again, huh? It's the same, it's the same writing and direction team, right? Yeah, same, same everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:27 They'll get you, they'll get you. Well, this could be. All right, I pray that you're right, Brian. I pray that you're right. Because I was so mad when that trailer ended. I was like, why the fuck do they have to show all those scenes? And now we know this person gets it with a shotgun. And now we know this happens in the store.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And now we know this person breaks in. I'm okay knowing the store clerk gets shot with a shotgun. I'm not worried about the story. Yeah, but it goes further than that, man. Come on. Like when they're breaking into the apartment and she's saying, you're not the first person that said that to me and it never ends well for them, you know. Well, that's not really giving away too much.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I did get the impression. Maybe there's something supernatural at play here. I think it's a cult of those places. That's what I think. I think it's a group of people that have a connection to. the original murders. Okay. Sorry, listeners.
Starting point is 01:04:22 We obviously don't give a fuck about the Boston Strangle. We're talking about Scream. I think it's a cult of ghost face. And there's going to be a connection to the original movies. Okay. All right. Well, we're all going to be there opening day. I guarantee you that.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I feel like Kira Knightley looks weird in this trailer. Like, I can't separate the fact that she's here. Maybe she's ghost-gated. Maybe she's ghost-based. She's too fucking pretty to be this character that she's playing, I think. She looks older, though. A lot older. She does, but she's like, hey, let's stick a fucking model in this role of a regular person, and it doesn't work right.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I need to look up what the real person looks like. The boss is. Not that. No, she plays the reporter that was first basically investigating the case. Okay. well I'm gonna go against the grain I'm kind of looking forward to this I think it should be right
Starting point is 01:05:24 I think you know Kira Knightley is you know she's fairly up there whoa she's not going to choose some shit she does not look like the real person at all
Starting point is 01:05:40 I think Phil's out of something here it's like let's get Giselle the play this fucking random housewife. Sorry, Matt. I was just a little shocked at the difference. No, no, it's fine. Brian is like getting dame to
Starting point is 01:05:59 play Terry Cruz? Yeah, I would say so. All right. That's that's miscasting right there. You know, they're always going to do that, aren't they? Yeah. Stick somebody putting in the front.
Starting point is 01:06:15 But yeah, what the hell? I'm done. I'm sorry, I'll watch it. Okay, cool. Yeah. It'll be good. You know what? I like true crime.
Starting point is 01:06:24 It's from the same studio that's been doing, we talked about it before, did pray and Hellraiser. You know, it was it, 20th century studios that are putting out these movies on Hulu. Strait of Hulu stuff, yeah. And, Matt, I think you're right. I think Ridley Scott is involved in it. And I don't know if in the writing or the producing, but something.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I think he produced it. That's how those true crime stories always get me, though. They, like, I'll watch the preview for them three or four times and then always skip past them because I'm like, I don't know if I want to get invested in this bullshit. And then I start watching it, and I'm like, oh, this is really great. You kind of know where you get getting, though, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:09 You know, before it starts, you know it's going to be about two hours long, and you're like, okay, you're in for a long haul. The trailer looks boring, no. Yeah. I'll do better next time, guys. That's not your fault. Boston Strangler. Boston Strangler.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I would love to talk to her. Boston Strangler is coming to Hulu March 17th. Okay. And that is it. All right. We'll move on to listener feedback. This week, the podcast Spotlight shines on percolated media covering all things movies. They are currently featuring the Pirates of the Caribbean films.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Or Caribbean. Yeah, it depends on your pronunciation, right? After the massive success of the curse of the Black Pearl, it was rather obvious that Disney had a franchise on their hands. Until Johnny Jeb's bitch wife got involved. It was inevitable that a sequel was going to be made, or in this case, two sequels. Producer Jerry Brockheimer gathered his director Gore Verbenzky and his co-stars Orlando Bloom and Kira Knightley. There you go. And, of course, Oscar-nominated actor Johnny Depp.
Starting point is 01:08:40 The result is 2006's Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest, a movie that despite being held. hammered by So-So reviews went on to make over a billion dollars with the... One billion dollars. Is that part of the original trilogy? I think so. Is it not? The Edman's chest? I don't know where it falls in that. It's like five or six of them, right? Is it?
Starting point is 01:09:05 At least, yeah. Join Garrett, Matt, and Adam as they take a look at the sequel and conclude whether it's bad reviews were warranted. And be sure to keep coming back as the boys will come back. continue looking at the entire Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. All the way, through 2017's Dead Men, Tell No Tales. That's a question I was going to ask you guys this week, because I haven't seen Ant Man yet. I haven't seen. It has a run-to-I.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'll wait for Disney Plus, quite frankly. It has a run-tom-tom-timore score of, like, 48, but an audience score of, like, 85. I saw that today. I usually trust the audience score more. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask when you pull up, because I rarely go to Rotten Tomatoes. I think I only go when we're doing the show. I look at something, but I don't go with the critics usually. These fucking critics don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Have you ever read some of their, like, you'll see like a movies review badly and you'll, you know, you'll go, you'll scroll down and click on some of the reviews. and it really sounds like some of these critics, just no offense, but it kind of sounds like some of you hate movies. Yeah. Maybe didn't even really watch it. Maybe they just watched the trailer. Like, I haven't seen the movie.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I'm trying to go out this week and see it. I can come back next week and say it was complete bullshit. Don't watch it. But that's me going in to find out for myself. And I don't know. I just, I don't know, I just think it's more, we talk shit about movies, but I think it's more easy to find the bad stuff about a movie than to find the good stuff, especially if the movie's not that great. Well, sometimes it's, sometimes it's easier to find the good stuff, like John Wick or something like that, you know? So a movie like that, it's hard to find something negative, you know?
Starting point is 01:11:07 But, yeah, the critics are, our critics would say it's silly, you know, it's over the top. Yeah, well, I was, I was just going to bring it up because that, that's a, that's a huge gap between critics and audience right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they did it to Dave Chappelle on his, I think it was like Stix and Stones or whatever. Right. Usually when the critics are really low and the audience is really high, it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Was that the Netflix one? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And I think I read one of the reviews on it. I think because they said it was filmed a couple years before, and I was. was like, so that takes away from it being funny because it's a couple years. Well, they just didn't like it because it was offensive to their woke sensibilities.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I can't see critics being Marvel fans full stop. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True. So it doesn't surprise me that they did that. Although the difference in the scores seem quite a massive, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Especially for something like Ant-Man. Yeah, I mean, it just just seems like we got 80% crowd score. It sounds like people went to the movies and had a good time. And then if you look at the critic score, it looked like they went and
Starting point is 01:12:28 overanalyzed everything about the movie. Kind of like somebody overanalyzing the Spider-Man Spider-verse movie or there's so many people that are happy you change the score on that line. Well, yeah, like I went in looking at that the cocaine bear scores because I was like,
Starting point is 01:12:46 what would everybody else feel about this? Well, and interesting, Lance, you weren't too big on the movie Missing. No, that has an 84% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Yeah, I wasn't a fan of missing at all. Audience or critics? Critics. Oh, hmm. Well, there you go. I don't know what I'm talking. Yet again, folks,
Starting point is 01:13:08 as you find out, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't think you're honest I don't think any of this do All right and regarding Grizzly Which are we covering tonight?
Starting point is 01:13:24 Patrick Lear says Been a long time since I've watched this one Is it being paired up with cocaine bear? Well Perhaps Ricky Morgan says We'll always love this movie I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:13:39 Kevin Nez says And this movie is why I don't go camping This and not Friday the 13th No that's why you don't go to the lake Okay And let's welcome our new member Stephanie Whitaker
Starting point is 01:14:01 All right Got four than one Ash Lynn Faye Everett And Sean hates All right Welcome guys And our big feedback of the week comes from Zen Vader. If N-night was making a movie about the horror returns,
Starting point is 01:14:18 which actors would play you guys, and what would be the twist? Who wants to go first? Should Matt go first? You go on first, Brian? I don't know. I've been thinking about this. I don't know. Do we cast people for likeness,
Starting point is 01:14:37 or do we do what Hollywood does and cast like the Kira Knightley that we just talked about. We cast somebody that looks way better than what we look. Bert Kreischer. That was the other preview that came on during Cocaine Bear. Have you seen that? The Machine. Yeah, where he tells his story from Russia.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah, but now this is like a movie about it. Y'all got totally different trailers than I do. Oh, my God. I cannot wait to see this movie. I love Burke Crischer. Yeah. That looks that good, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Have you ever heard of? I guess he's going to have to play me because I'm a fat ass at this point. No, I haven't heard of that. Look it up on YouTube. You're going to laugh, but at the same time, you're going to be like, there's no fucking way the story's true. But he 100% says it's true, and they turned it into a movie. I absolutely believe him.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Oh, fun fact about Burke Kreischer. He was the one that was, what was that Ryan Reynolds movie where he went to college forever? Van Wilder. Van Wilder. That's Burke Priceer's story. Based on him. Are you serious? That's it based on.
Starting point is 01:15:43 No shit. He was in, I think, Rolling Stone magazine is the college scene in Florida's number one partier. And they All right. Kind of, you got to watch some of his story from him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:56 You got to watch some of his stories, Lance. He's got his meeting Will Smith story. Yes, yes. Did he get slapped? No, he, well, he thought Will Smith was meeting him to fuck him. because his dad told him that this was gay that that's
Starting point is 01:16:11 his dad told him that's what that's what they do in Hollywood why is he meeting you and he was like he invited me to his house to watch a movie and he was like he's going to he's one of my favorite comedians of all time Burke Kreischer is fantastic the cast account
Starting point is 01:16:28 don't call him to play me but basically the story when he got there he was so worried about do I go through with it? What do I do? I guess I'm going to have to fuck Will Smith. Yeah, and then the story is basically he was there to talk about his comedy career. Hey guys, I'm out here recording in the garage.
Starting point is 01:16:52 My daughter's bringing me snacks. What you got there for me? Thackies and what else? Yeah. Cookies. All kinds of chips. Tuckies and cookies. Sounds like I wish I had a joint.
Starting point is 01:17:07 right now. What was the first thing you getting? Talkies. Yeah. Do you guys don't... Talkies are? No.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Oh, man. Spicy chips. Those are good. Spicy. Super spicy chips. Yeah, super spicy. Oh. What's up, Naz?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yo. What's up? So. Ready for some grizzly talk? I'm going to predict 10 on 10, but we'll see. We haven't got to the fucking movie yet, dude. Yeah, let's get. Let's get.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Let's get that cool of the week first. All right. Hold on. There he is. Cool of the week. Well, it wasn't a cool week. My mother-in-law passed, and we just had her services yesterday. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:17:57 But, um. I don't say that, dude. Jeez. Oh, man. Um, I didn't finish it. I started watching the unrated version of Megan. Megan? Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I've been wanting to see that. Was it? I didn't see the whole thing. People were still coming over, so. Yeah. I'm waiting when I have, like, chance to really sit down and watch. So if I, so I can notice any extra scenes or anything. I noticed the F bomb was in there.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I don't remember if anyone did in that original cut. I think there was one, maybe. Oh, man. Did that asshole kid try to rape her? Oh. I don't even remember. That's the scene that I think of when I'm like, that's what really happened.
Starting point is 01:18:47 When he mounted Megan, I never got that impression. Cool of the week. I guess this, I picked this up by the 13th, the final chapter. The steel book. The steel book.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Thank God you didn't pick up black Christmas for once. No, that's... Don't, don't, don't. That's right there. Uh-oh, stop it. Somewhere right here. Stop it, Philip.
Starting point is 01:19:17 But, um, yeah, I haven't watched too much. I got out of the house just to clear my mind for however long that movie was. But... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have the picking that up finally got it. It was the last one in the store. So I was happy I got it because I'd have been mad.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Do I need it? No, but... I think there's a lot of... only a few more i don't i don't think they're doing the the new line ones this is the the paramount years so i think we got another four more of steel books which i don't need but they're gonna do them all i got that big boxes but uh i i had to so but oh yeah yeah picking that friday thirteenth up of the final chapter steel book so yep cool it's stuff all right niz If we were making a movie, who would play you?
Starting point is 01:20:14 Young me or now me? I know. I had the same question. Maybe I'll go with Russell Crow for me. That makes more sense. Now me? Gladiator area or fat Russell Crow. I'm...
Starting point is 01:20:27 You want the unhinged Russell Crow. You know what? Real quick, since I got my hair pulled back in a ponytail, give Keanu Reeves long hair. here. Just have him come here or read the news. Oh, wow. Jason Momoa would be Brian.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Nice. Hey, I see the similarities. But Aquaman Game of Thrones, Jason Momoa, not fat Jason Moa that was in a past 10 trailer. Fast X. He doesn't look bigger, doesn't he?
Starting point is 01:21:01 I was divorced, Mamaa. Yeah. What's his name? Uncle Brownie, but when he was younger, Oh, there you go. From Res Dogs. He's a lot taller than me, but he had long hair at some point. The hell's his name.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Was he in Blood Quama? Powwow Highway, guys. Yeah, that guy. Machete's got to play you. What's his name? No, he's way older than me. I haven't been in prison. I don't have no tattoos on my chest either.
Starting point is 01:21:30 But you got the same mustache. Speaking of Res dogs, I'm going out to Oklahoma. next week I might be in Oklahoma week after next as I might be in Oklahoma they're doing an open casting call I guess they just need
Starting point is 01:21:48 guys in the background so hopefully they need fat metalhead skateboarders and I don't know we'll see all they can do is look at me and say yes or no well I'm sure they're not going to tell me
Starting point is 01:21:59 right then and there but yeah I'm going out there for that you're talking about Gary Farmer Gary Farr's When's season three coming? I haven't even started, so I have no idea. Yeah, season two got emotional for me,
Starting point is 01:22:16 especially those last couple episodes. Yeah, that whole season, season two was pretty heavy. Every episode, except for the, when the Anties went wild. And steam in their, steaming their hoo-haz and all that. That one episode really got me. What is the character? She had to go visit her. her auntie in the in prison.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Oh, Willa Jack. That was, um... That episode really got me. That was Daniel's mom. Yeah. Yeah, that one was rough. That one got me. The, the grandma, or Laura Daniel, when her grandma passed, that one was, that one was rough.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Sorry about the screaming. I was going to say, I thought I had background noise over here, and I do. Nah. That's the way we do it every week, Matt. Yeah, I don't know. He's acting up. he's out there screaming. What can you do, man?
Starting point is 01:23:11 You've got a house full of kids and grandkids and all that running around. I understand. All right. So who's playing Lance? Day Don. Yeah, Dane Dahan. I'll take that. I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:23:28 It's the only answer. Just age them up. Get them a couple days of sleep. Be good to go. Day Dahan. I think we just need to have the rock play, Brian. I think that's the duo. The B-Olin duo.
Starting point is 01:23:45 The B-L and duo. Tama Reeves to Jason Mamoa to the rock. Yeah, I think the rock, the rock's perfect. For Ness, since he's Native American, we're getting it like a good Jewish actor. Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler, playing Ness. Well, I found a guy, but I. It's true Hollywood fashion, Nass.
Starting point is 01:24:08 He was a wrestler. That was pretty good. Cory Graves. Is that who you're thinking of Nass? That is Nance's favorite wrestler. He talks about it every wrestler in return. He liked, what's her name? The chick from the Mandalorian or whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:29 No. Corey Graves is... Nobody tops Corey Graves. I think he said a long time, dude. That was... Professor Tanaka. He was... Oh, sub-zero and running man.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah, he was sub-zero and running man. Yeah, he was sub-zero and running man. There you. Oh, they're going to remake that, aren't they? I don't know. I don't know if you can see it. Two years ago. That guy.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yes. Yes. Perfect. Professor Tanaka. Him. All right, Matt, who you got? Oh, God. No idea.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Jason Stain. He looks like Ant Man. He looked like Ant Man with a beard. I could have Paul Rudd do an age accent. Yeah, there you go. All right. That works. That works well.
Starting point is 01:25:31 That works well. I'll take that. I'll take that. Speaking of that, do you guys see quantum mania yet? No, no, no spoilers. No spoilers. I haven't seen it either. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Because the critics gave it like a 40 and audience gave it like an 80 something. 80. Yeah, Theo just saw it again for the second time. Yeah? Second time because he liked it that much or the second time? I don't know. It happened to be on. I haven't even seen it the first time yet.
Starting point is 01:26:00 So I don't know. I'll eventually, I'll get to it. It was one of those ones that I wasn't. like super excited for so say yeah i'm i'm waiting for disney plus now on all i was more excited about this one than i think i think they said lans the the window for disney plus is like 45 days yeah that's not too bad i can i can wait for that long it's only been two weeks so yeah we're almost halfway there yeah all right that's the end of feedback uh steve carlton thank you from The Geeks for our artwork and new logos.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Natsulani does our old artwork, which is great. And check out Patreon, become a patron. I'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount. And for $5 a more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. And I come on with us. Yeah, which we still owe to Bid and Marcy, I think, don't we? Oh, yeah, that'll work. I don't think they've done their commentary yet.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Oh, they need to be on the commentary with us for sure. Hopefully it's something with 2B so we can have some dillow commercials. I'm sure it will be. All right, let's move on to our featured attractions. This week we get bearish with cocaine bear in 1976s. Who writes this shit, Phil? Who writes this shit? Barish.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You know, bear means something totally different now than it did in 1970s. Oh, that's a good point. But they made this movie. It is a large hairy gay man. Oh, Keith. Just so you know the terminology. I think there's an otter, too. I think it's a small hairy gay man.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Uh-oh. That's a new one. Okay. Okay. A new one I heard was Donald Duck. Donald Duck. the guy that used to be in the military that's gay or the Navy
Starting point is 01:28:05 he's a Donald Duck oh hell okay so like all of them the Navy I got you hey I'm Army all right all right so we'll get back to
Starting point is 01:28:20 to Grizzly instead of making gay jokes 1976 an 18 foot tall grizzly bear terrorist is a state park leaving it up to a park range to save the day. Director is William Gertel, Gertler, also known for the Manitou
Starting point is 01:28:38 and three on a... There you go. There you go, there's the Manitou. Is that a euphemism? Writers are Harvey Flaxman and David Sheldon. The film ended up becoming the most financially successful independent film of 1976. earning an impressive $39 million worldwide in box office revenue and several other records as well.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And this is like... And Big King Kong. Damn. Fucking hell. Well, I mean, you take a camera out to the woods and Matt, you can film it and me and Phil pick up Lance and swing them around. And I just go like, ah, I'm being attacked by a bear. Yeah. We don't talk about a bear on a stick.
Starting point is 01:29:37 A grizzly bear who was nicknamed Teddy played the titular role in the film. Teddy was 11 feet tall when standing on his hind legs. Wow. And was the largest grizzly bear in captivity at the time. And he was untamed, but trainer by an expert bear trainer. This could have gone very badly. Yeah, that doesn't sound smart. What the fuck were they thinking?
Starting point is 01:30:01 It's just a documentary. The film's casting crew were both protected from Teddy by only a thin green electrical wire that ran through its forest locations and in addition, a mechanical bear was used for the scenes when the grizzly bear attacked people in it. A mechanical bear at my ass. That was a bear arm on a stick.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Tell me that wouldn't. They wouldn't use the real bear these days. Not in the suit, sure. All right. Grizzly, 1976. Matt, what did you think about it? I think we watched the in the wrong films.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Is it hairy men? No? I watched the wrong grizzly. Okay, no, let's get back to this. My body is bodily fluid. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I know. I was looking on my Apple TV, it came up with that.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I was like, oh, geez. I hope it's not that grizzly. Thankfully, it wasn't. Yeah, this is basically, I'm just going to put it straight out there. And I know you're all saying it and thinking it's basically jaws, but on land. Right, with a bear. Oh, yeah, I guess so. That was the reason why I did so good because that just had jaws a year before.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Hey, let's give them. Jaws online. Let's give them something on land. and it's real. Yeah. We're not going to shut this park down because people are dying. I know, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:36 God's say tomorrow is the 4th of July. The next year they gave was Orca. Yeah, Orca, Piranha. What was the other one? There was another one, alligator or whatever. Not in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:31:48 It was still cashed in on Jaws, though. I don't know. Wow. I mean, according to Tim, over in Australia. He says that Nope is nothing but space jaws.
Starting point is 01:32:04 He's right. I agree. I agree. All right. Tim Davis, I'm with you, brother. What a parachute. Space jaws?
Starting point is 01:32:15 That's what he calls in space jars, yeah. Anyway, look, it is it is George. Kelly is Brody. Arthur is, who, per dollar's quint.
Starting point is 01:32:32 You're right. If you think about it, it is. Okay, it's, you know, 70s. It's a, you know, a bear gone wild. Not on cocaine, but it's gone wild. It might have been. Well, it could have been. Yeah, it's all right.
Starting point is 01:32:55 It's not the best film I've ever seen. it's got some fairly decent gore the acting's all right not bad the pacing is pretty decent there's some bits which I like I thought the POV
Starting point is 01:33:16 camera angles from you know of the bear I thought that was quite good there's some dumb shit going on in that film some decisions like what the hell is going on. Stupid people, Brian.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Stupid people. Whole movie fall. But hey, you've got girls in bikinis because it's always good. Daisy Dukes? Why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:43 It's a little, it's, it's mid-70s. Mid-70s could have been called Bush Bears. Bear gone got a mock movie.
Starting point is 01:33:54 It's fun. It is. It's fun. That's why the shorts were too short. Right. It's not going to... It's no jewels. It's no jaws.
Starting point is 01:34:06 It's no jaws. Okay. No jaws. All right. That's a good review right there. I like it. Jaws, but no jaws. Jaws.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Joless. Ness. What do you think? The only good thing about this movie was the poster. I was wrong. Um, I saw, again. I saw the ending that was driving when it came out.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Uh, I didn't know what it was. I just saw what happened at the end of the movie. Oh, okay. Cool. Big Bear. And then when it came on TV, uh, Mike was talking about it. He asked me if he had seen it. So came on one night, uh, on
Starting point is 01:34:48 late night TV. So Mike and I watched it. And I was just like, uh, I wasn't, I wasn't a fan of it. I love the poster. It looked cool. Uh-huh. It's a huge, scary-looking bear. Some ladies sitting there
Starting point is 01:35:02 at a campfire. So I just figured, all right, this is going to be one of those type of things. Yeah, totally after Jaws. Let's throw any kind of killer animal at everyone, and people are going to go see it. And obviously, they went to go see it. I didn't realize it did that good
Starting point is 01:35:19 in the theater. So, but good for them, man. Make your money. That's how you do it. Yeah, yeah. Make that money to make it your next movie, which probably sucked and didn't do as good as this one. And then Beverly Hills. But for what it was, all the stars in it, they were all somebody. You knew they were, special for the times in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:35:40 So, and to have a bear do what it did. Yeah, it wasn't, I mean, obviously they had trainers and everything. I don't know how many bears they used to make them do. I like when they use real animals, especially during this time, no CGI. This was the all or nothing days. So, I mean, they did what they had to do. And, of course, yeah, it got cheesy when it was up close and it was swatting at them. And so, yeah, that's how you do it.
Starting point is 01:36:07 So, but. A guy in a bear suit. Yeah, I mean, that's what you do. That's why they had so much bear P-O-V? How did he show me without showing the bear? After this watch, man, it's goofy. It just makes you laugh. Just sit there crack open, a couple of bruises, and then just enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:36:24 So it's a total popcorn movie. Uh, maybe at the time it was a little more serious, but now in 2023, it's just one of those ones you throw on with your buddies and laugh at it. So, but yeah, I mean, it just made me laugh the whole time. Um, which part I love though, I think it was a black bear, the cub that came up. Uh-huh. And they were like hugging on it like a dog. Right. That was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Like, have any of you seen a bear out in the wild? Yes. Uh-uh. I haven't. I'm sure Brian has. You live in Alaska, dude. Stay away from them. You got polar bears.
Starting point is 01:37:04 I was driving. I don't think polar bears go that far south. I was driving home one night. And it was during that huge fire here in California, what, two years ago, whenever it was. And wildlife was running all over the place just to get away from it. So I was super tired because I had to go way out of my way to get home. Sure. And I was like, I had the window down, the music blasting, the rock stars.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I was powering those to just keep myself awake. But out of nowhere, this bear just ran in front of my truck. Wow. It woke me up. And I was wide awake. They're fast. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like right in front of me, but it was enough to where I saw it stand up and then just bail across the highway.
Starting point is 01:37:56 And I was like, whoa. So luckily I wasn't going faster than the speed limit. I might have hit it. Another quick story. A buddy of mine hit one. It was a cub. A bear? That's not. Yeah, he was driving down the highway.
Starting point is 01:38:10 He saw something running along at night. He didn't know what it was. And when it got close, it ran out in front of him. He had a big, giant truck. And it got stuck in the wheel well. Well, he didn't know at that time. Oh, no. The bear?
Starting point is 01:38:21 He just heard a boom. So he got out and looked and he didn't see. anything and then he heard something like and then he looked it was the little bear was in his wheel well oh no it was like a baby has yeah he had a big giant truck so he was like he started looking around for the mom yeah nobody was there so he was like he did no one was around either he didn't know what to do he just threw it in reverse and boom and it came out it came out and ran off wow it's still alive it was the life.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Whoa. Game bear. There's nothing more adorable and terrifying than a bear. I was always told if you ever see them. Little cubs, I mean, don't just either don't stop or just get the hell out of there. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:15 no shit. Mama's right there. There's a term mama bear for a reason. Mm-hmm. All right. Brian, what you think? This movie was fucking.
Starting point is 01:39:26 dumb as hell. But for, you know, for, you know, a subject of bears attacking people, it just came off real comical to me. Just. And this movie, it was like Matt said, it was jaws, but on land with the bear. It was part slasher movie because it was like this bear was like stalking everybody hiding in the woods, watching women undress. For a mission, I thought this bear,
Starting point is 01:39:59 this bear could have got canceled in 23 because it was the extreme of women for most of this movie. Like, I thought for a minute. Tocin masculinity. I thought this movie was just going to kill women throughout the whole movie.
Starting point is 01:40:14 That's what I thought, too. Misergistic bear. Different times in the 70s. Oh, man. Some of the dialogue was, like Nez said, was definitely, you couldn't say things that they said in this movie today, especially the guys, Vietnam stories.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Oh, yeah. Terminology he was using. That was my nickname in high school, by the way. I ate a bunch of rice. Aye, aye, aye. The scenes with the bear, I know it's difficult when you got an 11-foot bear to kind of have people in the shot, but I think they did what they had to do with the mechanical bear.
Starting point is 01:41:01 It just looked like somebody with sticks with bear paws. It was going like, and sometimes it came off comical because the people would fail and scream, and then you would see it at the clearly fake body part fly off to the side. But with all that being said, I, did have a lot of fun with it. It just came off comical. I know that's probably probably, that's definitely not how they
Starting point is 01:41:34 wanted them to come home, but just some of the Bear Attack movies we've gotten since 1976. This just really came off comical to me. Well, it's also from Digest this
Starting point is 01:41:49 for a second, almost 50 years ago. Oh, wow. Shit. Wow. These movies in the 70s with killer monsters, killer insects or whatever, if you watch them today, yes, they're goofy and everything, but at the time when they came out, they had big stars in them and they tried to make them as serious as possible. Yeah. For example, Empire of the Ants had Joan Collins on it, Alexis from Dynasty. Right. As goofy as that movie, it is giant ants, and totally they made those ants themselves.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Right. It's goofy and it's stupid, but I love that they do that because they made those ants. And when they're acting, especially when the ants are trying to get them or any kind of big monster or whatever, they're just, ah, they're being as serious as they can. The other example, food of the gods, when those big giant rats are attacking you, it's hilarious. And a lot of people with youngsters that are listening, you're like, this is stupid. Why do you love this? I always say at different times, but it's awesome. I mean, they tried to make those movies.
Starting point is 01:42:57 This is going to be a serious movie. Everyone's going to love it. Everyone's going to see it. And, of course, I went, so I ate all that shit up when I was a little kid. But now I watch them now. I still get plenty of enjoyment in those films. This one as well. It is goofy.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I thought so even back then. But I don't know. I just love these because now they just CGI it. And to me, I think it kind of takes it out of it. Totally. Totally. Yeah, well said. Well said.
Starting point is 01:43:26 You're not going to talk about Kingdom of the spiders? Ooh, that was... Have a set mouse altogether? Oh, I hate spiders. Real spiders. That was real spiders and... A lot of them. No.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Captain Kirk, Lance. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Have you seen that one, Matt? I've no seen it, none. Are you afraid of spiders or anything? Um...
Starting point is 01:43:53 Yeah, but... I mean, I could hold them in my hands. Oh, no, I can't even do that. If one was crawling over me in the middle of the night, though, I'd squeal like a girl. Could you go into a room with hundreds of tarantulas crawling everywhere? I would have to kind of go, right, come on, let's do this. Yeah. And I would kind of have to, like, you know, get into the zone.
Starting point is 01:44:19 You know what? I agree with you. I would do all of that, and then I would turn right around and go. the other way, yeah, fuck this. I can do snakes. I can't do spiders. Not the other way around. I don't mind spiders, but snakes, so
Starting point is 01:44:34 I'm Indiana, I'm like Indiana Jones when it comes to snakes. I'll leave them all alone. If you want a good laugh, Matt, check out Kingdom of the spiders. It's just enjoy it. Enjoy it for what it is. I'm down for that.
Starting point is 01:44:47 There might be a free copy to watch on YouTube. Oh, there might be. be convenient. Probably fucking a public domain at this point. It's what I heard. Legitly. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:02 All right. Lance, what did you think about Grizzly? Oh, man. When I started watching this movie, like the first act of this movie, I don't know, man. Because, you know, the wife makes me watch a bunch of Christmas movies every year. So inevitably, you got to go back and watch some of those like 1930s and 1940s.
Starting point is 01:45:21 You know, like when they're saying, hey, Merry Christmas. See? I got to tell you. And so at the beginning of this, like when they were talking about the way, was that like a fucking hotel or something like that that they were at with a restaurant, where the people ate in the national park or what? It was probably like cabins and stuff you can rent. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:41 All right. Well, it's like, I don't know, it's like the young lady to me. It seemed like she was saying like, well, daddy, you want me to help you take care of the business, Daddy. And then he was like, well, see now our young lady? I can do this on my own now, see? It was like, holy fucking shit. I was wondering when, I was wondering when W.C. Fields or Charlie Chaplin was going to walk in.
Starting point is 01:46:05 This movie felt so fucking dated to me in the first, in the first act. It was almost 50 years ago. Well, look, true, yeah. And I'm no, and I'm no spring chicken, that's for sure. So, but no, once we got, once we got past that, I thought it, I thought it did become quite a bit of fun. you know and then of course you know you got the the setups like almost like Friday the 13th or something like that where it's basically just a slasher and it's like who's going to get kill next and then they started early they didn't they didn't shy away from the gore and they did start early early with the kills which kind of surprised me yeah a lot more than I thought there was going to be well when you get toward when you get toward the fucking music when you get toward the end of the movie it kind of like goes a little bad shit crazy with like the characters that are all a little bit demented. Like the one guy that wants to go off on his own and the other one that goes, that boy's crazy. Oh, the helicopter pilot? Yeah, the helicopter pilot. They made it, they made a funny group. So I got that was kind of funny,
Starting point is 01:47:09 though, when he was flying with the main guy in a helicopter and he was like, you're still riding that filly of yours? And he looks at it like, what are you talking about? And then he's like, oh, I didn't know You can't go out like that. Well, I could, I also couldn't help notice the way they just do around the word Indian so casually. Like the one guy that says, uh, I'm going to tell you a story about this Indian Braves. And there was a squaw. And there's like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:47:37 No. No. No. And then I realized this is 1976. But yeah, it was, uh, I don't know, at the end of the day, I think we're all in agreement. It was like horrible, terrible, uh, garbage. But it was a lot of fun to watch. I think we're pretty much in agreement on that.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yeah, definitely, I think this falls under the So Bad, it's good. I think so, too. That's right. There's some funny points, though. It's like, oh, yeah. At a 10-mile hike. And they come back at the cap site, and the fire's already lit. Do you know what else know is that?
Starting point is 01:48:12 Okay. Hollywood magic. Hollywood magic. Hunting out in the, uh, helicopter and the guy's like, right, okay, well, you stay on watch. And instead of laying by the fire, it goes, and lazy to get the helicopter. What are you doing? Crazy choices.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Weird crazy choices. And there's that weird love story kind of thing going on with Kelly and the, what was the, what was the girl? What was she? She was like the daughter, wasn't she? Yeah, the daughter of the guy that ran the... What was that? the cabins or whatever.
Starting point is 01:48:52 That didn't make absolutely no sense at all. Yeah, the daughter of the guy that didn't want to close the beach, I mean, the, the forest down. Right. Yeah, the mayor. The mayor of the Nashville park. See, all he needed, because you remember that guy in Jaws, he had the suit with the little anchors on it. Exactly. That guy just needed like a suit with like little bears or something on it.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Oh, yeah. This movie was ass, dude. It was like, I was fully expecting it to completely and totally suck. And then, especially considering the cheesy-ass music that they had for like the intro and throughout the entire movie, by the way. But then I was kind of impressed that they did show some gore because it didn't seem like that kind of movie. Those two things don't mesh well together. you know that kind of music and then blood and guts going everywhere right but yeah it was it was pretty fucking cheesy and uh this is definitely not one that i'm going to watch again okay when i hate to
Starting point is 01:50:12 say it when we get to cocaine bear i'm going to have to do my review really quickly and tap out because i've got a family uh like lint dinner going on here so oh okay i got you i'll have to you guys i'll have to you guys have finished without me All right. We'll drink how much as you can now before you get there and have to tell them. That's right. All right. Well, then let's do scores on Grizzly.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Matt, one to ten. I'm going to go six frustrated park managers out of ten. Six. Nice. Six? Yeah, no, I had a lot of fun. Yeah? It's bad.
Starting point is 01:50:51 It's fun. Six. For me. Uh, Ness? You're muted. Five-year-old me would have probably gave it a 10 when I was a kid, but now, 50 years later,
Starting point is 01:51:10 I'd probably go five. I mean, I get, I still get enjoyment. That's fair. I don't own it. I don't own it yet, but I probably would if it's the right price. Okay. I, your collector, though. Look at all that shit.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Yeah. Yes. Brian? I had more fun than I did disliking it, so I'll probably give it a six. You know, it was cheesy, it was goofy. You had a peeping Tom slasher, serial killer bear. And there's just a lot of comparisons to Jaws,
Starting point is 01:51:49 which is not a bad thing sometimes. I mean, they did some P.O.B. stuff there in Jaws, right? Yeah. Yeah. beginning. It was fucking bad in this one, man. I mean, Jaws already laid the template out.
Starting point is 01:52:05 This is how we make, we make these movies. They even did that in Kingdom of the Spiders. You had a camera crawling through the grass. What's easier than showing the spider? Because then you have to have special effects. Bring in Fulchie. Or you put a camera on an RC car and let it go.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Lance? Like six Six So bad it's good So bad I'm gonna be the low man On the total pole here I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:52:34 Oh no Yeah What did you What score did you give? Four Four Four four four Four four
Starting point is 01:52:41 I didn't not have That's almost the Halfway point That's not the lowest That's not horrible That's not horrible Well I don't give Really shitty reviews
Starting point is 01:52:51 But this one deserves Pretty shit Ah okay I don't know. And Black Christmas wasn't very good. Well, okay. Black Christmas, I think. I think you gave that one a negative 10, Philly.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Literally. I think I gave it a zero. Oh, it's not that bad. Yeah, it's that bad. The remake? Here it is. Oh, God. The first remake isn't that bad, but this remake is that bad.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I'd rather watch the porno parody of Grizzly than Black Christmas. How about that? I don't think it was a power to ask. With bears, Matt, he said with bears even. He would even sit through that before Black Christmas. With a bunch of giant hairy gay men. Now that's saying a lot. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Yeah, pass. All right. Cocaine Bear. An oddball group of cops. Sounds like there's some cocaine going on here. No doubt. At the very least. An oddball group of cops, criminals, tourists, and teens converges in a, I don't think that that automatically makes sense.
Starting point is 01:54:16 In a Georgia forest where a 500-pound black bear goes on a murderous rampage after unintentionally ingesting cocaine. Unintentionally. Unintentionally, sure. Sure. Director is Elizabeth Banks, also known for Pitch Perfect 2 and Charlie's Angels the 2019 edition. Well, that explains the line. We're going to go over all her movies during this, I promise you.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Because I'm going to bring them up. All right. Ryder is Jimmy Warden, also the babysitter killer queen. What is that? I like that. That was the babysitter scene. Yeah, Babysitter Part 2. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Okay, I got you. Samara weaving, dude. That's all you need to know. Ray Leota's final completed film role before his tragic passing of May 26th in 2022, Leota passed away a week after he came to re-record his lines in post-production. Elizabeth Banks says that Leota praised the look of the bear. with the creature. Somebody was on the same game.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Okay. Very loosely based on an actual bear that died after ingesting cocaine, which was dumped from an airplane. No rampage by the bear actually happened. In fact, no attacks by the bear were recorded at all because it was a black bear.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Because it died. But it did die, and I think it's stuffed in Kentucky somewhere. Yeah. It didn't kill anybody because it died immediately. Yeah. Yeah, right. As what ever.
Starting point is 01:55:56 A shit ton of cocaine and died. Couldn't handle his high. I don't think anybody could with that much. Lightweight. Lightweight. You eat a whole brick, man. Yeah, a few tons of cocaine. That's a problem.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah. All right, Lance, you want to start us off since you got to go? Yeah, I'll leave my camera on, but I'll mute just in case I'm able to come back in after the dinner. But, yeah, I'll make it short and sweet. I can't wait to listen to what all you guys have to say. So I will definitely give this film one point for the soundtrack. I love the 1985 soundtrack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:35 And I will give this film one point for what I call the Depeche Mode scene. And I'll say no more because I don't want to give anything away at all. Because there's big spoilers in that particular scene. So, yeah. I don't know what that means. Where they just can't get enough. that just can't get enough oh okay
Starting point is 01:56:55 okay I don't want to give away anything about that scene I'm not a depressive I'm not a depressive man by the way okay so Matt's a DJ I guarantee you he knows
Starting point is 01:57:09 they could have done don't let me down I'm taking a ride with my best friend way better I would have worked too all right yeah so what did I say
Starting point is 01:57:22 one for the soundtrack, we're up to that two for the Depeche Mode scene, right? Yeah. That gives it a two-one. This thing was a fucking piece of shit. This bear is so fucking phony looking, man. I've seen Yogi Bear cartoons that look more realistic
Starting point is 01:57:39 than this piece of shit. Okay. Now, no, y'all can retort to me. I will listen. As soon as I get the show uploaded, I'll hopefully I'll be back. Later. Well, now let me allow you to retort.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Matt? You want to retort it first? Kerry Russell. One word, milf. Milt. Yes. Milt. Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Carrie Russell? I fucking know. That accent. Carrie Russell and her track suit, definitely Miltf. Yeah. No. All right. Yeah, I actually had fun with this.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Ignore Lance, because he's wrong. always. It's, look, it's, it's a fun popcorn movie. It's one of those
Starting point is 01:58:28 movies, yeah, like Ness said earlier, get the guys around, have a few beers, and have a laugh. I mean, it's not a comedy as such,
Starting point is 01:58:39 but there's some moments in it, which are funny. It's way goryer than I thought. I thought the, hang on, I can't do spoilers. There's one certainty. which is really quite gory.
Starting point is 01:58:57 There's a view of. I can't remember about spoilers. Yeah, I thought the acting was pretty decent. I thought the kids did a great job. I thought they were very good. The acting overall was pretty decent standard. Spoilers, I was thinking about spoilers. I enjoyed the soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Do you know that? the most of the music was done by Mark Mothersbaum, from Devo fame. Do you guys know Devo? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big Devo fan. He did a lot of the, yeah, a lot of the composition of the music within the film, which I didn't know about it until I kind of had a little poke around, which is great. Ray Le Otter in that, you know, rest in peace, great actor. wasn't particularly great in this but obviously, you know, I don't think
Starting point is 01:59:55 as well. Yeah, I all can say, I had a lot of fun. Me and my daughter's watched it this afternoon and yeah, we really enjoyed it. All right. Nez, what do you think? Oh, this movie was fucking awesome. I love it. Was it?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Every minute of it. Is it hell of good? Yeah, I wasn't expecting much. I was like, okay, I knew the story of the real co-co- came bare and how it died and it stuffed wherever um i all i knew is rale yoda was in it i really didn't pay attention to who was in it at all but as these stars were coming across the screen kerry russell i don't like her and everything but she was good in this rale yota is just good and everything playing the the main drug dealer bad guy in it i didn't like his hair but he he was
Starting point is 02:00:45 still cool in it uh you got ice cube junior in it and then you got hon solo to wrap it up Crushed us. He was good. And the Ranger, Ranger Liz, Margo, Martindale. I like her in everything. So it was good to see her, as well as Jesse Tyler Ferguson. He played Peter. I love him in Modern Family.
Starting point is 02:01:07 And I just liked what was going on. They didn't take this movie serious. I mean, the bear was CGI through the whole thing. I don't know if they ever used any real bears, maybe during one. unseeing, but I'm not really sure. But it was what it was. It was cocaine bear. Just got a
Starting point is 02:01:28 hold of some cocaine and just went wild. My favorite part, I mean, it's not a spoiler or anything, is when he did a line off that guy's decapitated leg. I was like, oh, my God. And the theater was packed.
Starting point is 02:01:48 I didn't think a ton of people would see this. because usually when we go to movies on Sundays, if it's new, hardly anyone's there. The last time I went to the movies here in town when it was packed was for Maverick. And I wasn't expecting much. We rolled up. The parking lot was full.
Starting point is 02:02:03 I was like, what else is playing there? I saw the Ant Man was there too. So I said, well, maybe there and then. No, we walked in the theater. We got there just in time because then a shit ton of kids, teenagers came in. And they were actually quiet. They were quiet. There was this dude that sat like on the next.
Starting point is 02:02:20 a couple rows up on the other side of the aisle and he just I was like what are you laughing at? I mean a lot of the whole movie was funny but he was just laughing at
Starting point is 02:02:33 like the wrong things that weren't even funny. I had exactly the same experience as going from. He must have been about 10 years older than me and he was laughing at everything look at each other going
Starting point is 02:02:45 what the fuck is he laughing at? Yeah. I'm not a lot of it. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, laughing it was, I laughed when it was funny, but he was laughing at, like, the dumbest things. It weren't even funny. But I was like, okay. But this movie was awesome.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Once it got going, it didn't stop. It was a little slow to get the, to get the story wasn't really much of a story. But to get it going and all these characters that popped them in, I was just more surprised on who was in it as it kept coming onto the screen. so but I enjoyed it I enjoyed every minute of it I'm definitely gonna buy this when it comes out I want to go see it again I might have missed some parts
Starting point is 02:03:28 because I was laughing too hard but I enjoyed it I mean for those of you that are gonna see it after you see it listen to our review there is two scenes was there a scene at the very very end I left after that second yes there was not the very very end
Starting point is 02:03:46 okay I think the last I saw the two during the credits. And then, yeah, I had to get out. I had to go to the bathroom. So I wasn't sure if there was something. Yeah, there were like two or three. I wasn't sure if there was one at the very, very end.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Not at the very, very end. No, I think that was good. I mean, but overall, I enjoyed it. It was a fun ride. This one also, if you're not going to go to the theater, I mean, if you watch it when it comes on, get your buddies, get your girls, and sit around and enjoy cocaine bear, because it's that's what it is i'm not saying to snort some lines or anything but uh it was funny
Starting point is 02:04:25 i get a little high before you go in here tip a few back light something up and enjoy what is cocaine bear because i thought this movie was awesome and i'll give that to lance the soundtrack was good i'm a kid of the 80s i loved all that stuff and i just i thought it was an awesome film i really really enjoyed this movie take it for what it is it is goofy it is stupid, but I like those type of things. This isn't a movie for everyone. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:54 All right. Awesome. I'm gonna pee on myself. Hang on. All right. Well, what did, what did, last given?
Starting point is 02:04:59 Two. Well, I guess he loves the remake of Pet Cemetery, everyone. Like you said, Matt, he is wrong again, as usual.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I had a lot of fun with this movie. I laughed a lot. I thought the cast was pretty decent, but I really enjoyed the kids. I thought they did a great job, and kids are usually hit or miss. I said it a bunch of times doing these shows, but I thought they were funny.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Everything with the bear was hilarious. Whether he was doing the cocaine or killing people, it was fucking hilarious. It was, I had to agree with you. It was more gory than I thought it would be. I thought it was going to be gory, but then there was just some scenes like, oh, you guys are really going for it. And with the, I'm looking at the budget.
Starting point is 02:05:50 With the budget they had, the bear looked fine for, I guess it was a $30 million budget. You know, the bear looked fine for that kind of budget. I don't know what Lance is talking about comparing it to Yogi Bear or whatever. But the soundtrack was awesome. I did miss, you guys, like that when we get spoilers, going to have to tell me about the end credit scene because as soon as the credits, my theater was packed
Starting point is 02:06:22 so as soon as the credits were going, I was gone out to do. Yeah. As far as the adults that were in here, I don't know if anybody really stood out for me. I am disappointed. What is the actor's name?
Starting point is 02:06:40 Isaiah Whitlock Jr. The black gentleman. Yeah. He didn't say his he didn't say his line he always says in movies and TV shows he always says she just like that in every movie he's in he I think I think he did when I think I can't remember when he was on the top of the gazebo trying to get down did he I think I could I could be wrong yeah I might I thought I was I was looking for as soon as I seen him he's gonna say it he's going to say it.
Starting point is 02:07:15 I might have blacked out for a second. I don't know. Maybe I was doing some lines or something. I don't know. But one person I would say I can probably take it or leave. It was O'Shea Jackson Jr. Ice Cube son. He just didn't really do any.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Him and Hans Solo were just, I could have took it or left of those two characters, didn't really do anything for me. Oh, man, I loved both of them. I really enjoyed the guy from Game of Thrones, the red-headed guy. I'm going to take a leak. Okay. The guy from Game of Thrones, the red-headed dude. He was only in it for like a couple minutes, though.
Starting point is 02:07:59 I thought he was hilarious, though. Yeah, he was good. And usually when you think of him, you know, you think of Game of Thrones or any other movie he's shown up as like a henchman to the villain. You know, him doing a little comedic piece was. that was really good. Which one was he? He was a camper in the very beginning.
Starting point is 02:08:18 His girlfriend got snatched up by the bear. Yeah. Oh, man. I never even clicked. I liked it. Yeah, he looked familiar. And then when the movie got done,
Starting point is 02:08:30 I like pulled out my phone. I was like, oh, it's the dude from Game of Thrones. He was one of the wildlings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was one trying to get on the tall woman. I'm Brianna. Yeah. He was trying to get on her.
Starting point is 02:08:43 hey, I can't knock him. There's something about her and all that height. And I don't know. Yeah, she's tall. He's like powerful and sexy. I saw her in Seattle. Yeah, she's tall. I'm with that.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I'm not a short guy, but, you know, she picked me up, throw me around. You know, we can work something out. But overall, I had a lot of fun. I agree with Matt. Lance is wrong. Holy shit, there's a tan on the screen. Pass it off to you, Phil.
Starting point is 02:09:24 This movie was, it sort of winds up in the middle for me. Like, I wanted it to be funnier than it was. Like, I kept waiting for the comedy to start, and it never really revved up. Let me go through some Elizabeth Banks movies with you. because she's funny. I like her as a person and as an actor.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Now, are you doing movies she's been in or movie she's directed? She's directed. Okay. Okay. The first couple nobody's ever heard of, whatever. The next one that she directed is movie 43, which is widely regarded as one of the worst movies of all time ever. I would agree with that.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Okay. That was hitting me at some story. Well, did she direct the whole movie or did she direct a segment? I'm not sure. Okay. Probably the whole movie, if I had to guess. I mean, it's on here. No, there was 12 directors.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Oh, it was 12 directors? Okay. Well, that makes life a little better because movie 43 puts a big old giant stain on her stuff. Pitch Perfect 2? Never seen it. No. I like the Pitch Perth movies. I've never seen any of them.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Hitch Perf. You definitely got to watch first of them. Anna Kendrick is awesome. Well, they sing in it, right? However, yes. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've tapped out.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Pish Perfect 2 is the one with like the German band. It's the worst one of the bunch. The new Charlie's Angels and cocaine there. Never seen. Never seen Charlie's Angels. No. me neither, but it did terribly. I don't. With cocaine bear, I guess
Starting point is 02:11:21 I will give her one more shot. But before a cocaine bear happened, I don't know why they keep letting her direct movies. You know what I mean? Like, she's a great actress, and she's very funny.
Starting point is 02:11:36 As a director, I'm not sure. Like, I feel like this story, alone was enough to make the movie pretty good you know like it's such a fucking outlandish thing that it should be completely hilarious and uh
Starting point is 02:11:59 I don't know that I laughed out loud at all in this I know what you mean I think I agree with you in that it wasn't hilarious I mean it wasn't hilarious hilarious I mean there were the times when I kind of chuckled Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:16 But that's about it. But I still think it had enough entertainment value. It did. I mean, yeah, it wasn't funny, funny. It wasn't like comedic, really. I suppose. But I feel like it should have been. Like, I feel like this movie could have been one of the greats.
Starting point is 02:12:38 You start out with the premise like cocaine bear. And that shit better be good. You know what probably would have made it? Especially with the cast, man. You got... Maybe if they would... Carrie Russell. Maybe if they would have cast it...
Starting point is 02:12:56 Maybe if they would have cast it like comedic actors. Well, the Park Ranger lady was hilarious. Well, I mean, for the main cast. Yeah. They're not really known for comedy. Yeah, Carrie Russell was a weird choice for me. I didn't... The accents drove me fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:13:16 I know that Georgia has maybe a different accent And it But that's not it I mean For me the comedy it wasn't Joke comedy For me yeah I laughed at
Starting point is 02:13:34 Everything that was happening When the when the violence was going on The situations Yeah what was happening in the screen When we get to spoilers And we'll go into what was what was to me me what was funny. Like all the violence, when the goryness and everything started happening, I wasn't expecting
Starting point is 02:13:55 any of that. So it just made me laugh. There was one scene there was during all the violence that made me jump because I wasn't ready for it. In the cabin? Yeah, I just thought it was hilarious. And just every time they showed the bear, I don't, maybe that was probably what they wanted to be funny.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Because when you see the bear, you see it's got the Coke nose. And everything. Or when it was sniffing the coke that was in the air. Like I said earlier, when he's... Get enough of the bear. I thought, yeah, okay. Yeah, I could say that. Because the majority of it was a CGI bear.
Starting point is 02:14:32 So I'm not sure if they actually used a real bear at any time. But, I mean, I think... Like four parts that were very funny. Yeah, I mean, I think... Those were the funniest parts. I think they didn't really go with a traditional type of comedy. It's labeled comedy thriller, but I was laughing, as well as everyone else in the audience, when something bad was happening on the screen, something violent or gore, bloody and gory, that's when everybody was laughing, because I was, too. But, I mean, like, let's say terrifier, too, during all that bloody goreness of what's going on in that movie, I was the only one laughing.
Starting point is 02:15:12 Everyone else was all quiet. So I was, that's why I went in there to just enjoy this film for what it was. If it was stupid and I didn't enjoy it, I don't know how Lance didn't enjoy it, but that's what, that's how I took the film. Because that's what it was. It was stupid and you enjoyed it. Yeah. You knew what you're going to go in to see before you, you know, before you went in there. You knew what the film was going to be like before you went in.
Starting point is 02:15:36 So it was just going to just wash over you like a, you know, nice little whatever it is. but yeah i just think that there was so much potential behind cocaine bear right just the title of it alone and you know what the backstory is there's so much potential there and it wasn't bad but man i don't know that it lived up to the potential okay so i didn't i didn't read into any of it i just okay i went cocaine bears are they for real with this and uh i went all right At first I thought it was just some trailer that you made and just threw it out there and made the poster. I mean, everyone does that. So I was like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 02:16:23 I didn't know what it was going to be at this point. And when you say cocaine bear, that gets everyone's attention. And everyone's going to go see it, especially for the town that I live in, I didn't think there would be anybody in there. And the theater was packed. So, I mean, whoever did marketing or whatever, I did. I think they knew what to call it. They could have called it Black Bear or something. That wouldn't have got anyone in the theater to see it.
Starting point is 02:16:51 They called it, you know what? Cocaine Bear. Everyone's going to see this and go, what? And be curious. It's a great poster as well. Yeah. I think, you know, the marketer, yeah, as you say, bang on. It's going to draw people in.
Starting point is 02:17:05 And I think it's going to make quite a bit of money. You know, people will just go and see it just for that. Yeah. I mean, we were there at 11 o'clock on a Sunday after a baseball tournament. And the theater had at least fucking 30 people in there, which is kind of a lot for 11 o'clock in the afternoon on a Sunday. Because, well, the theater, we have two theaters in town. It was a newer theater, and it was playing in one of the bigger theaters. It might be considered a small theater to the bigger cities, but for us, a little small little town.
Starting point is 02:17:41 It was in a big theater. And again, I'm saying, I was shocked that so many people showed up to see it. Because I just didn't think anyone. Because I usually show up late, like minutes before the movie starts, and I could still get a good seat. I mean, we walked in there, and I was like, damn, there's hellfuls in there. Luckily, we sat, like, right in the middle and no one was in front of us. Yeah, see, we had to sit in the way back because all the, like, middle roads were taken. I mean, but for what this movie was, the story was simple.
Starting point is 02:18:10 drug dealers cocaine lost in the woods the bear came upon it and started snorting it and then everything went haywire from there on so I mean hell of cast though man I'm afraid Leota fucking crushed ice
Starting point is 02:18:26 I like that dude crushed ice yeah I mean I liked I liked what was happening in it I mean the story wasn't much other than drug dealers trying to find their their stash
Starting point is 02:18:39 that went down in a plane crash and then the bear I think the bear wasn't the main story in this. There was those drug dealers those drug dealers trying to find their cocaine and then all hell broke loose.
Starting point is 02:18:55 I think I kind of had a little problem with that because it was not just the cocaine bear and the drug dealers trying to find a cocaine. It was Carrie Russell and her daughter running away to go paint the waterfall all, I don't know if that's a thing.
Starting point is 02:19:12 I didn't know what that means. I didn't. They threw it at you and then didn't say anything else of it. Then you had the park ranger and the guy that, the wildlife guy, they're, they're, I guess, relationship or she's trying to have a relationship. Then you got the group of teens. That was funny. You got the group of teens that getting introduced. Then you got the hikers.
Starting point is 02:19:36 I think it was maybe if they would have focused on the drug dealers and just had everybody just kind of at the park already. Yeah. It was pretty much. Those teens were just there just to be stupid in the park. The park ranger and her trying to get her hump on with that dude. I mean, that was simple. No, I'm just saying that's just what was going on with. all the thing. Overall, yeah, I loved it.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Let's do scores and then roll into spoilers. Matt, you want to give your score one of ten? Seven lines of the good stuff out of ten. All right. Nez? I'll give this not quite a ten. I will go nine. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Yeah, I liked it that much. Right. I didn't like it as much as Nes, but I liked it just a little bit more than Matt, so I'll give it a seven and a half. What? All right. I'm going to give it a six, man. I think it was all right. I think it had the potential to do so much more, and it didn't know. Well, it's not a two or whatever the fuck things came. It was definitely better than Midway.
Starting point is 02:20:59 But I can't go aside. I think we got the Spider-Man No Way Home thing. I think Lance went to the movies. he was having a bad day and he took it out on cocaine bear. Should have some cocaine in there. That you just going crazy on that one. All right.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.
Starting point is 02:21:39 What do we spoil about this movie? It's a fucking, I mean, people die. My favorite scene was the... I don't know what happened. I didn't even know that. You're telling me to stop? No, I click something. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 02:21:59 I wasn't sure if you were like... Before I say what I'm going to say, everyone, I'm Native American, and that's the how. signal. So before you go, oh, here's what I pressed. My bad. I pressed Ray's hand. I thought you were telling me to hold on.
Starting point is 02:22:16 No, I was trying to get, if you put your cursor over the little heart, those little faces go up. I was trying to get those off the screen. I accidentally hit the raise your hand thing. My favorite scene of events was the
Starting point is 02:22:33 ambulance chase. Yes. Agreed. I, I thought that was just wild. Who were those two people? They've been in stuff before, right? I think, now, they, I think, I'm not, I don't know their names, but I think they were comedic actors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:50 The Asian lady was. I hear you. The Asian lady was. You were the odd man out, Lance, as usual. Do what? You were the odd man out. What? What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:23:02 What do you mean? No score? Low score. Lowest score, aside from you was me, I gave it a six. Six was the second lowest score after two. Well, it'll be on one of my list. Sounds like it'll be on some of y'all's too, maybe. Nez gave it a fucking nine.
Starting point is 02:23:16 I gave it a nine. I love you. I thought you were going to give it a 10. I would have gave it a 10 if there was more good 80 songs in it. Yeah. You know, made me laugh. I would have given it higher. This will not be on your bottom list by the end of the year.
Starting point is 02:23:34 This is the one that Brian's calling. Okay. I agree. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. This is right now, this is on my best of list. Yeah, I could tell.
Starting point is 02:23:45 But yeah, the ambience scene was complete craziness. The guy getting tore up in the back. The lady in the stretcher falling out face first and just dragging it off the time. That was fantastic. The scene I loved, the part I loved in that was when the best. the bear was running at him after it got you got recharged with some coke and then it just started hauling ass after them
Starting point is 02:24:12 and they're just like why the fuck is the bear chasing us and how the ranger was like get down get down because she was already all beat up and she had her gun I thought she was going to shoot that dude she shot that kid that's the part that made me jump I was I wasn't ready for that. Yeah, I wasn't ready for that.
Starting point is 02:24:35 I thought the bear was just going to come crashing in and get him. Which I didn't understand how all that worked out, because he clearly was standing in front of the door when shot the gun. She should have known. She carries a gun on her at all times. Have you never been to a fucking range before? Maybe don't shoot the guy that's opening the door. Well, how long can do park rangers get to shoot? That was probably the first.
Starting point is 02:25:03 time ever. So she was taking advantage of it, man. She put on perfume for the occasion and everything. I mean, they went for it with the blood and gore. I mean, like that scene, when the kid got his head blown and blew a hole in his head. Right. The campers, they got that lady that got chewed up right in the beginning when. Yeah, the leg got thrown. Yeah, I was like, okay, this is what we're doing. But I was, I was shocked. They showed that. I was like, okay, this is what we're doing. I didn't realize it was going to go like full speed, full throttle. Yeah. I'm glad you guys loved it.
Starting point is 02:25:40 Matt, what did you give? I gave it seven. How can you give it two? Okay. How can we do it too, dude? Lame. Lame. All right. You guys ready to wrap up? We just started spoilers. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Damn, this can be a four-hour show. This is going to be an eternal darkness-length show. The bear did cocaine. I mean, it was cool. I know it's late for you, Matt. But the other part that I enjoyed was the scene when Ice Cube or Jr. Whatever was beating the hell out of those dudes in the bathroom. When he beat those guys up in the bathroom, I thought that part was so funny.
Starting point is 02:26:27 Well, they tell him, you're not scared? And he says, no. No? You think there is a joke? Yeah? That's what it was. You think this is joking? Put a hole in his jersey.
Starting point is 02:26:38 I'd have been mad too. I know. I'm surprised. I'm surprised they attacked him to be fair. Okay, they have a knife, but he's just like, okay, dude, fair enough. He said no. He could just back off. He's a fucking drug dealer.
Starting point is 02:26:54 He didn't have a gun in his pocket. That's what I was waiting for him to pull out. He had it in their glove box. Like, all right, motherfucker. He wasn't expecting. and all that. He was just going to the father. These weren't very smart. These weren't very smart
Starting point is 02:27:05 drug dealers. Well, Han Solo was heartbroken. His wife passed away. Was that young Han Solo? Yeah, it was Han Solo. I was wondering, what did I know that actor from? Okay. Is that the guy with a weird mustache? Yeah. There was ice cube.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Yeah, prying through the whole baby. With the bear vagina on his ear? This is a minus scene, but at the end, when they got the little dog. after all that happened he put the dog next to ice cube and he jumped back he was like is it on cocaine
Starting point is 02:27:36 he's like no that's pretty good I like the dude out of the three little teens the one that hung with them to the end and then when when that cop was on the gazebo
Starting point is 02:27:52 when he was on the gazebo and they were like get out of here and he just took up I kind of forgot I kind of forgot about him until he comes back at the end of the movie during the credits and they were searching for bags of coke i don't know how many it seemed like it was a plane full of them but that kid got away with one i think that was the last thing that i saw when he jumped in the back of that or he
Starting point is 02:28:15 threw the coke in the truck with a bunch of sheep and then he stopped and he got it he didn't want the the cocaine sheep there was there was that one and then there's the one where um the little dog and it's eaten Ice Cube Jr.'s little fingers. Pretty much the whole movie when the bear was running around with C.J. But was that a real, not a real bear, but a real, like, a practical effect when it was laying on top of Han Solo? I don't think so. It kind of looked a little real, though, didn't it? Because there was scenes when it wasn't moving until it's opened his eyes and got some more coke in it and then it took off.
Starting point is 02:28:55 I like the introduction of the cocaine bear cubs. Yes. Cotein Cubs. I think what took a point off me for the film was the end when it was in the dark. I don't know, but I don't know how maybe it was just my theater. That scene was too dark. Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:29:20 So I thought it was just, yeah. Yeah, they could have added some moonlight or something. because it was just Maybe it's just me I did I did not buy Carrie Russell in this cat
Starting point is 02:29:33 Oh yeah I don't I don't like that actress To begin with She was just the mom Yeah I guess She's just a milf She yeah
Starting point is 02:29:41 She wasn't running around With guns or anything Like Was the Plano the Apes Right But I mean She she did She served her purpose
Starting point is 02:29:50 She was just Trying to find her daughter That skipped school To go do Cope And I don't know Oh, the other part. I don't know. I mean, I'm never done Coke. I'm for real. But those little kids that took that whole knife full and put it in their mouth. No, they spit most of it out. I don't care. It didn't matter. Your mouth would have been numb.
Starting point is 02:30:10 Yeah. For what I've heard, they put it up in their mouth to where they should have been feeling something. Oh, for sure. It'll definitely numb you gumsily. Yeah, that's what my buddy said. allegedly they'd be mashed heard a friend of a friend's cousin I think I think the kid's throat would have probably closed up and constricted or something
Starting point is 02:30:36 that one kid Their lips would have been loose Yeah the boy Yeah a little boy He was funny I don't know how he climbed that big tall tree Because there wasn't no branches on the bottom I know and that part bothered the shit out of me
Starting point is 02:30:50 Because he's like climbing it like a fucking bear Yeah there's a lot That's how you're on tree out of you, man. Come on. Stupidest script ever, man. I wanted to see. Still terrible. And again, the word, no, the CGI just, I'm telling you right now, took me out of it.
Starting point is 02:31:07 They were complaining about the first Sheehawk trailer. Really? The first Shee Hulk trailer looked like real life compared to this movie. Oh, okay. This was terrible. No, the Cig was way better than Hulls in this. What? Maybe did you see?
Starting point is 02:31:21 Okay. This movie was awesome, everyone. I'm the guy, I'm the guy. I'm the guy that defends Marvel movies and TV shows on here. That I can't defend because they had way more money. Ah, okay. That makes sense. Also, She-Hulk was still terrible, just to say.
Starting point is 02:31:39 I had fun with it. Over cocaine bear? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, I like it a lot better than cocaine. It actually added to the Marvel backstory, at least. It tied into Shang-G and it had all kinds of cool stuff. going for it. Yeah, the TV show. It's a one and done. It's got nothing to do
Starting point is 02:31:58 with anything from here on out. No, dude. You still have the... You still had the abomination in the fight that... But that's not going to lead into something major. You're a lot of news. It's not going to lead into anything major. It might. You never know, dude.
Starting point is 02:32:16 It's not because they're starting a whole new thing. Okay, okay, okay, guys. We're getting off the rails. Let's just let's just like... You're racist against green people. There's a whole new phase that's got nothing to do what we've seen so far. They were referring to the fucking article in the naceaper, man. Well, he's coming back for Deadpool.
Starting point is 02:32:36 He's coming back for Deadpool, but everyone, cocaine bear is good. I gave it a nine. The CGI was awesome. It was way better than she halts. But it's also definitely nine to nine. Don't listen to Ness. No, this movie was awesome, everyone. Go and enjoy it.
Starting point is 02:32:51 I would say drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think Nes is. been sniffing one of those baggies. Played the devil's advocate. Don't miss in the Lance. This movie's not. Yeah. I mean, he like fucking Pet Cemetery, everyone. Oh, yeah. The Pet Cemetery remake was good, man. That was garbage. I love the end of it, man.
Starting point is 02:33:08 I love the dark ending. That was more of a Stephen King. You're probably going to like the new Children of the Corn. You think so? I think so. I think so. I think so. I'm going to bet I'm going to hate it. I hated the trailer, but I'm still
Starting point is 02:33:24 going to see it. We'll find out. Oh, of course. We're all going to see it. Well, I'll still watch it. All right. Y'all got four, or are you ready to get out? No, I think we're going like three hours. It's time. Plus, we won't see Sheehawk until the next Avengers movie
Starting point is 02:33:40 in five years. Yep, well, you never know. She may pop up in one of these movies. She better pop up in Daredevil. I'll bet she pops up in Daredevil. That's exactly what I was going to say. I hope she can fucking kill all of them to start over. that's DC they're starting all over yeah like allegedly
Starting point is 02:33:59 excited about DC cocaine bear everybody cocaine bear so go see it Matt Matt thanks for joining us dude pleasure as always tell tell uh tell everybody where they can can find you guys man like you have a website or uh what do you what do you do pod bean or what do you do your podcast uh anchor FM Spotify my usual stuff,
Starting point is 02:34:25 Stitcher, Apple, Google. Yeah, the eternal darkness of not so spotless minds podcast. So it's just me and Kate chatting shit about movies. When's Kate coming on? Does she not like us? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:40 She's never been on the show here before. I'll drag her along. She'll probably get mad at Lance, but... That's okay. Bring her next time. I'll do so. but it will extend the show by at least an extra two hours.
Starting point is 02:34:56 Yeah, that's fine. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. Check us out at thehorrorreturns.com. Allegedly this week, I'll get Coosies out. I tried to get the first Patreon show up, Brian. I tried.
Starting point is 02:35:16 I'm having trouble. Actually, Philip, since I'm coming out there next weekend, I'm going to bring my laptop. Maybe you can help me with this pop-up issue, and maybe you can help me figure out how to build a drop box. That part's easy. I think you'll have no problem. If I can dropbox it over from the laptop to my home PC, I can get it done.
Starting point is 02:35:36 But anyway, consider becoming a Patreon, Patreon, yada, yada, yada. Next week, it is going to be our annual March Madness show. Go in there now. Is he going to be on March Madness or what? We're going to do it. Yeah, March Madden's show, and we've got way more host than we have slots, or we have way more contestants than slots for. So it's going to be very interesting to see how we get five votes per round,
Starting point is 02:36:07 but we'll figure it out. I think Pedro's going to co-host. Brian, how do you think that's going to work out? You know what? I've seen the list of movies you're saying, If you need me to jump in as somebody to even it out. Okay. Most of these you've seen, right?
Starting point is 02:36:24 I looked at the list. I think there's two movies I haven't seen. Well, you can watch those this week, and it would be good to go. All right. So I don't have to host? You don't have to host. We got Pedro. He's going to do everything.
Starting point is 02:36:38 Pedro, if you're listening. So anyway, Matt, until the horror returns again, Good time. Hokey and Bear, everyone.

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