The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #355: Cherry Falls (2000) & Scream VI (2023)
Episode Date: March 16, 2023This week, our main man Steve Carleton from The Geekz joins us to talk Cherry Falls and the new Scream movie. Cool of the Week includes Hogwarts Academy, 65, Unwelcome, Missing, and The Last of Us. Tr...ailers are The Wrath of Becky and The Blackening. Podcast spotlight shines on Horror Nerds at Church and The Horror Bandwagon. And we get feedback from Stephanie Horror, Heather Powell, Steve Carleton, Jen Aranda-Perez, Spinsters of Horror, Eric J LaSalle, Ravven Rayne, Derek Diedricksen, Franklin Correa, Al Ramseur, David Day, Jerry Cortes, Jessica Tucker, Ariel Wellman, and Ann Myrna. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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It's been called the greatest show on earth.
It's been called the shittiest show on earth.
It's been called everything in between, but it's the horror returns.
And those people are wrong.
As always, well, you know what, our listenership's way up.
So, what, three million Chinese can't be wrong or three billion Chinese can't be wrong or what do they say?
Although I don't think that's just listening to our show.
That's who I don't think that's who I don't think that's who's listening to us.
I think it's mostly USA, Canada and UK.
And then, of course, Lars from Denmark.
I think half of them can understand what we're saying.
Well, we're back.
We're back every week.
I don't think we've ever missed a week.
I know, Brian, you've never missed a single show.
man.
No, I've no life, so I've nothing to do.
Oh, I don't believe that for a minute.
You got lots going on, man.
Nothing I want going on.
It's called validation.
Well, I'm Lance with me as always.
We've got Philip.
We've got Brian.
But tonight, a very special guest.
It's our artiste.
Our intro provider, our all-around good guy.
And I'm not talking about Chuckie.
It's Steve Carlton from The Geeks. What's up, man?
Hey, fellas. Good to be back so quick. Quick turnaround this time.
I feel like I was just here.
Yeah. You got to say your tagline, man. Keeping it.
Always keeping a green, man. This is Steve. Keeping a green.
All right, man. Well, you know how the show opens, Steve. Cool of the week, man.
It can be anything, even a video game. It can be a VHS tape that you found and bought.
You know, I did find actually this weekend.
I don't really want to hear about your porn collection.
I did find the original point break case.
Oh, the one that I had.
I thought that was Brogbeck Mountain.
Okay.
Not quite.
Almost, though.
But the one I had had like the greatest hits, like the greatest hits label on the top.
That always sucks.
So I like finding the OG boxes.
So point breaks classic.
But you're talking about video games.
Man, I have been on Hogwarts Legacy, something fierce.
That game is so good.
I'm not even a Harry Potter fan, man.
I'm really not.
I didn't even really dig the movies that much.
But kicking the shit out of people with magic is super fun.
It looks cool.
And I watched all the movies, but I'm not like a Harry Potter nerd.
I was like a little older than that generation.
But you like the Spider-Man game on the, well, you were playing on PlayStation, right?
Love the Spider-Man game.
It's that game, but with Harry Potter.
Oh, sold.
open world. And there's something to be
said about like jumping off a cliff,
you know, pulling your broom out, bailing
out, and then like just dropping in on some
full fucking them up and leaving again real quick.
Like it's a lot of fun.
So Harry
Potter shoots webs, basically
is what you're saying.
Pretty much. It's a
best. And the graphics
are incredible. So yeah, just
just a really all-round cool game.
Actually
when I went and saw a screen, I did a double
feature that night. So I saw a scream and then right after that I saw 65. So,
not great things, man. Adam Dryden. I hate to say. You know, for what it was, it was all right.
I just kind of wish it would have been more, you know, but it wasn't like, I'm not mad at the movie.
You know, it was kind of paint my numbers. Believe it or not, this guy from space falling, landing with dinosaurs,
as paint by numbers as that could be. I kind of wish there was more dinosaurs in my dinosaur movie.
But at the same time, the dinosaur shit they had was way better than anything in the last few Jurassic Park movies.
It was.
Especially that last one, which was like big bugs, great.
But, you know, it, it, the Adam Driver and the little girl story was actually pretty good.
You know, as a parent, you know, you kind of get in line with that stuff.
So that's pretty cool.
It was really short.
And then they did this thing that.
Oh, short movie?
Yeah, it's like barely 90 minutes.
Okay.
Well, that's good.
That could be good sometimes.
Refreshing, right?
And I know a lot of people, I don't know if it's a spoiler to say.
I guess like, I'm not going to say it.
But we're not covering it.
You can spoil it.
Right, Brian?
Is that the rule?
I don't care.
It's just, I just came out, but okay.
There's no big twist, you know.
Yeah.
So that's why I.
It's not an M-9, huh?
Yeah, yeah, no big twist.
It's just a really, the story starts.
It happens and then it's over.
but they did this thing that I was like did that they really think the audience is stupid because like
some shit happens and then the you know the big 65 comes up 65 and then and then it says
million years ago and it's like ah why'd you have to why'd you have to do that in the movie
and then it's like a stranger came to earth and then it's like god like they're in the title though
like it's like the longest like master and commander you know it's like the longest
whatever. And then like all the other words go away and it just says Earth and it shows the planet we've
obviously been looking at. It's just like, aye, aye, aye, like so much unnecessary, you know, forehead
smashing information. Like if they didn't give that away in the trailer. Right, right. I mean,
they literally, yeah. So it was, it was all right. It was pretty good. It's middle of the road.
On the geeks, I would have given it. I gave it a sidekick. So here, it probably be around six.
All right.
Yeah.
Not bad.
More good than bad then.
So that's a good thing.
I would say I enjoy, you know, I mean, fuck.
Like, it's Adam Driver with a gun with no ammo packs,
but has an impossible amount of bullets shooting dinosaurs.
Like, you know, I didn't expect Citizen Kane out of this shit.
You know, I wanted to see Adam Driver shooting dinosaurs,
and I fucking got what I paid for.
So it's hard to complain about it.
Okay.
And then the last thing would be a movie.
I think I mentioned it to Brian earlier this week,
but I watched this movie called Unwelcome.
Ah, the little garden gnomes.
The little goblin ones.
And I love this movie.
I thought this movie was pretty awesome.
I thought the goblin special effects were great.
It was kind of like something out of Lord of the Rings.
It was like real people in costumes that they superimposed in there.
And it was only really noticeable in one scene where like the chick was down in like their area.
That was the only time it was like the weird superimposed.
was noticeable.
But I thought the goblins were great.
I thought the acting was all around pretty good.
It was just this awesome, cool little creature story.
So I had a lot of fun with unwelcome.
Brian had that on the schedule for us last year, but I guess it got a late release.
It got shelved.
I don't know why.
Steve told me to check it out.
I saw that it was available.
So I checked it out.
And I agree with everything he said, the practical effects on the goblins.
were really good.
The acting was good.
I really like,
what's your name?
Hannah John Cayman,
the main actress.
I really like her.
And she was really like to...
She was ghosted in the Ant Man and Washington.
Yeah. I really,
I really like the cinematography, too.
Like the colors,
like especially like during the day,
how like the colors and the lights would hit.
And then she would go into this forest and it would get dark and everything
would just changed.
And it just added to everything.
And, yeah.
You got Hodor in there from Game of Thrones being a piece of shit.
Was he holding the door?
He was trying to hold something.
Oh, okay.
Is that with streaming?
Interesting.
It's available.
Well, you know what, guys?
Speaking of streaming, I've got a bitch and moan a little bit.
I'm not going to name any names, but I know you're listening to the show.
My Plex guy has been falling asleep at the wheel.
Get us some 2023 horror movies.
movies, Mr. Plex guy.
That's all I have to say.
You know who you are.
Well, I'll jump in with Michael of the week because it's the same as yours.
I went and watched 65 also.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Yeah, and I actually really fucking enjoyed it.
I had a really good time.
Okay, so it gets a little bit cheesy towards the end.
The whole movie is probably a little cheesier than I would have
expected, but they have like some daddy daughter moments, which really get me.
And they had...
The language barrier was really cool.
It helped the story along.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, but towards the end, it's like some stuff happens and it's like, oh, well, that was
fucking perfect timing, huh?
And like, of all the times to land on earth, this is when you choose to do it.
And what I was really hoping for was like a different...
like
Adam and Eve kind of story
or something, you know?
Some sort of
That would have been a little problematic
because of the age gap.
Yeah, a daddy daughter
that wouldn't have been too cool.
Well, it wasn't a daddy daughter
that crashed.
But still, yeah, I understand.
And that's why I was
a little worried throughout the whole movie.
I'm like, what are we doing here with this?
Uh-oh.
Because I expected something to come out of that.
And they didn't really
go that direction.
Thank God.
Well, I know, but they could have gone a direction, and they didn't.
Well, that's what we were wondering in the, when we're watching the trailer is like, is there
going to be like, is he like the father of mankind?
Does he get stranded here?
Like, that's kind of how shit starts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, hey, maybe humans crash landed here 65 million years ago, and that's how humans got here
and we're the eight.
He's like, oh, my God, there's so many dinosaurs here.
I have to nuke the planet.
Right.
There's no asteroid.
It's like, okay, it's safe.
But that's another cool thing about the movie is like dinosaurs.
They're like not animals.
They're just like murder machines.
All they want to eat your face.
Every single one that sees you just wants to eat your face.
Even the cute little ones, they want to eat your face.
And if they don't, other cute ones are going to come eat their face.
Well, yeah, welcome to nature.
Yeah.
Go spend a week on a fucking deserted island and see what the bugs do to you.
Yeah, see what happens.
Imagine if the bugs were 10 times your size.
That's dinosaurs.
Gotcha.
There was some kind of unbelievable, like, it always, it's always problematic when, like, people are running away from dinosaurs because it's like, those things are huge.
Like, there's steps.
They're going to catch you so fast.
It makes no fucking sense.
Sorry.
This is not good.
What the fuck is that, man?
All right.
What did we miss?
Well, we're back now.
I don't probably miss anything in particular.
We're back.
Brian, I was that you're paying attention.
I think it was about five seconds.
Oh, okay.
Boy, I think I get it out.
That's all we were talking about is Adam Driver.
Okay.
Not having sex with the little girl.
So what would you, what number, what score would you give it then?
I'm going to go with, dude, I had a lot of fun with it.
I'm going to give it an eight.
Wow.
Shooting it from what it really should.
It's probably more like a seven to be honest, but I'm going to get it.
give it an eight. I think I'm going to change my number to a 6.5.
I see what you did there. All right.
All right, Brian. What you got going on, Brian?
Outside of unwelcome, the only thing I watched new was I checked out missing the movie that
we were supposed to review and me and Phillip didn't bother to watch it that episode.
Oh, yes. The one I didn't exactly love.
Yeah, I think you were a little too hard on that movie.
I think it was a decent follow-up to the...
It's not as good as the first one.
The acting's okay.
It's decent.
I would agree.
Okay.
They gave you some twist attorneys there,
kind of throw you off of the main thing.
I think the reason why it's not as good as the first one,
because the first one involves the kid going missing.
And so I think it kind of kind of hits you differently than...
Sure.
you know the new one it's the the parent that goes missing and then the the kid has to do her own investigating it's a little a little far-fetched but
i i don't know i think if i had to give it a score it'd probably be like a six and a half maybe a seven
okay what would you give unwellcome oh man i didn't yeah i didn't even i'd probably give that like
for what it was worth for me i'd probably give that like a like a eight five damn yeah yeah
I'm going to have to go up that.
So that's officially your cool of the week then, Brian, right?
What?
Unwelcome, so I can keep missing off the COTW list.
No, we're going to do missing just because I disagree with her.
All right, let me add missing.
If I know two, then, God damn it.
Oh, speaking of weird shit, because, you know, I like the true crime and stuff.
I'm going to bring it back.
We'll get into that.
There's a show called A Friend of the Family.
I think it was on fucking H.
I'm not sure what we were watching on.
my wife turned it on but it's got the girl from uh something that i can't think of at the top of my head
right now anyway good yeah pretty good show it's also uh from abducted in plain sight
the okay which was like i've seen that i've heard of that one same same story same story but this
is like a dramatization instead of a documentary.
Huh.
Where like this, the neighbor comes in, be friends the family, has sex with the dad, the mom, and then kidnaps the daughter.
I did hear about this.
That dude.
That dude's got some balls, man.
Well, and how do you just like decide, I'm going to do this?
The proposition person of this, the mom and dad are fucking retarded.
I'm sorry. I know I'm not supposed to use that word.
Seems that way.
In a particular moment.
It kind of applies here, I think.
I think it's okay.
Like, I want to say they had it coming, but their daughter is the one that
freaking suffers for it.
They're just too stupid to fucking realize what's happening.
Too bad.
Oh, damn it.
Wow.
Is that it, Brian?
Before we move on from unwelcome real quick, Brian,
one of the things that I liked about those gobbins the most is that they weren't
they weren't like
invulnerable
like you could kill them
like if you smash its little head
it's gonna pop
you know
you slam a meat cleaver
to its head
it's gonna fucking go down
you know
I gotta see this movie
another thing I liked about that
there was a comedic tone
to the movie at times
it doesn't necessarily
take itself seriously
the whole time
and you're Star Trek fan
Lance
the fucks his name
from next generation
the Scottish
guy.
He was in Conair.
He was the angry
Colmanie.
Yeah, he pops in there.
He's a piece of shit.
He's great, though.
Yeah.
Like, ah.
And you said practical effects, right?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's like actual people ensues.
Like, when the first goblin
when you see like its head,
it kind of looks like a puppet maybe,
but then like it lifts its head even further
and its mouth opens up and it starts talking
and you're like, oh, shit, that looks real.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that looks creepy.
They just do the load of the rings thing, like when there's a Hobbit standing next to your handoff.
They just do the camera thing where it just kind of looks smaller.
But it fucking works, dude.
Those little things are scary.
Whatever works, man.
Like the opposite of what they do when they're-
They'll cut you open and then when you walk around and your shit's falling out, they're going to stand around and laugh at you.
That's messed up.
As long as they have cheddar goblins, I'm happy.
That's kind of what I was wondering if they had any cheddar goblins.
I don't remember any cheddar goblins, but there is some very strong gore and violence against the elderly at one point.
Uh-oh, well, you know.
I'm getting a little too close to feel comfortable about that one, guys.
Not a protected class yet.
You're fucked.
Right.
All right.
Come to think of it, a lot of elderly people get in that movie, Brian.
The majority of the village, your town is elderly, so.
It's like Godlands in a retirement village in Ireland.
Is it, okay, so it's, so is Ireland, man, where it all takes place.
Well, starts off in, like, London and then moves to Ireland pretty quickly.
Do they all have accents?
Oh, yeah.
There's, there's some accent.
There's some accents.
sense where you don't have an idea
of what they're saying. Yeah. Right.
Well, it was like that Oscar movie.
The Banshees of Inishiran.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, what the
fuck did that guy just say?
Subtitles, bro.
Subtitles. Yeah, I think it was
at times, Steve,
the brother of Hodor.
Oh, the skinny one.
Yeah, sometimes I didn't know what the fuck you were saying.
He talked too fast. That's why he was jittery.
He was on that oohie.
That'll do it.
Yeah.
You can't go fast and skip letters.
That's not how this works.
Right.
So did you have a row?
I don't know if we had a row.
Did you have a row?
We had a row.
They had a bit of a row.
You're working on your accents, Lance?
I am trying, man.
I want to get back to Ireland, man.
That was my first international vacation I ever took.
Many, many years ago.
I'd love to go back.
It's a great place.
Is that it, Brian?
Yep.
I'll keep it simple and short, because I can't say any spoilers,
because I know you guys aren't caught up,
but did watch the finale of The Last of Us.
Is it done now?
Yeah, it's done.
Nine episodes, so you can.
Yep, you can dive in.
I will say that the ninth episode was not my favorite,
because it ended on a very open-ended.
See, I just said it should even even that away.
It didn't close it up the way I wanted it to.
but I would say episode 7 and 8 were the strongest.
Seven was a flashback episode
where you kind of learned about Ellie as a younger girl.
And then episode 8 was kind of where they,
it's not giving too much away.
I mean, it is kind of a walking dead type of show, Brian,
so you know there's going to be cults and survivalist groups, right?
Mm-hmm.
So...
Got that from the first episode.
Yeah, I mean, that's not going to surprise.
I will say this. I think the actress, why were people bicking about the actress, Steve? Did you play the game?
I played both the games more than once, so I'm very knowledgeable of the story. I'm actually on episode six. I started the binge on Saturday.
Okay. So I'm not all the way caught up, but so far they're following the games and they're not following the games. Like, don't get me wrong, like I love Pedro Pascal. I think he's doing a great job.
the show, but he doesn't remind me
a Joel from the Games. Like, I like what he's doing,
but he's doing his own thing. He's not
Tex. He's not Tex. Yeah. Right. Joel
from the games is like a cowboy, cowboy,
right? Yeah. Okay.
And it's, I'm like, like I said,
like what he's doing is great, but like
it just doesn't give me those vibes. And then
the same with Bella Ramsey. Like, if you've played
the games, and in The Last of Us part two, you
play as Ellie for a big part of that
game, so you really get to know that character.
Oh, okay. This actress,
is not giving me that
those same vibes
that you were getting in the games.
And as far as what you were talking about,
like, because I'm a glutton
and I just, I don't care about spoilers.
I already know how the first season ends.
And if you play the games,
it is not a surprise to you.
It sounds like they went right on through.
Oh, interesting.
Okay, well, see, I fucking love the actress.
I think she's a spitfire.
I think she's a perfect actress for the role.
Like her as an actress for sure.
But I've never played the game.
Yeah.
And I think that the interaction with her and Pedro Pascal,
especially as they develop their relationship, is amazing.
It is.
The way that,
especially when you know his backstory and a loss that he suffered early on.
And then she's kind of helping to replace that loss and reheal him a little bit.
So it's just like 65.
I'm loving it.
Amazing first episode.
I love it.
I really like the Ron Swan.
wants an episode.
Yeah, but I like those little detour.
Let's not, let's not say too much about that one, right?
But I like those little detours.
And then I just got that, who's that one girl that was in the movie?
Like, I don't feel at home in this world anymore.
She's in yellow jackets.
Oh, Melanie Linsky.
Her episode?
She's amazing.
She's amazing.
That whole episode with Henry and Sam,
unbelievably good.
And then that zombie shit, like, they did a really good job with all of that.
Oh, yeah. Wow.
So we'll say no more since Brian's not caught up, but that's my cool of the week.
So Brian, do you mind to-
zombies in it so far?
I haven't watched the last episode.
But I'm surprised at the lack of fungal zombies.
Again, though, if you play the games, like you deal with other people more than you deal with those guys.
Just like the Walking Dead.
Yeah, just like The Walking Dead.
They're bad.
Those monsters are bad, and those are the scary parts of the games.
But like, sure, sure.
Do you guys think that every time you turn around,
there's some piece of shit person.
What I said to?
What, do you think that's how it would work?
Like, if there was a real zombie apocalypse,
do you think people would split into, like,
fucking evil, I'm going to raid your camp and...
Yes.
100%.
Yes.
100%.
Yes.
I know people that would.
That would do it.
Brian, I know two motherfuckers.
I like the thing.
It was right at the top of my head.
I can tell you right now, that would be a bad person on the apocalypse.
See, because I feel like there's such a divide right now and everybody sort of at each other's throats,
but it's because we don't have any bigger shit to worry about.
But, like, and zombies come along, oh, now we got real shit to worry about.
Right, right, right.
Me and my wife had had talks about who we are bringing into our group.
Yeah.
There's some people she's named.
You got to have one.
There's certain people she's named.
I'm like, no.
Yeah.
Not that person.
You and wife.
My wife and kids would be dead by day three.
I was going to tell you that right now.
I caught COVID in like the first week, so I'd be totally fucked.
All right.
Can we go off script just a little bit, Brian, before we go into headlines?
Sure.
Since we have this opportunity, and I just listened to a wonderful conspiracy-filled episode of a particular podcast,
and Philip is our conspiracy expert on our show,
particularly when it deals with UFOs.
And Steve, you guys said something about you can't,
you're not allowed to fly above the fucking
some point north.
I'm going to be quite a lot of you.
You're not allowed to fly a Ray Antarctica.
Not allowed to.
Is this true, you can't just go to Antarctica?
You're in the military.
Is that true?
With nothing to do with my knowledge from the military,
Terry, because we did.
It's not in Antarctica.
It's in Afghanistan.
That's like the opposite.
Hey, wait,
me, hold on, Philip.
Brian, Brian, you live in Alaska.
You're close enough to Antarctica, aren't you?
No, that's the opposite.
Yeah, what are we doing here?
Dude, it's, it's,
I'm closer.
You're closer to Antarctica than
Brian is.
I've heard that you're not allowed to fly
over it, although, I mean, they have
cruises that go to Antarctica.
But they just,
go kind of around.
Yeah.
And they don't like circumvent the whole thing.
Although it's also like super
in like uninhabitable.
It's true.
That's a place you wouldn't want to crash.
But I mean, so is the fucking ocean.
You know what I mean?
Like no one must have to crash there either.
The devil's triangle.
All right.
What are your thoughts on UFOs, Steve?
Well, well, it's, it's, it's,
I don't know the answer to that.
You know, like, my whole thing is like...
But we do know the answer, dude.
There is no way we're one single tiny little dust moat in the galaxy.
Oh, no, no, no.
There's definitely...
There's definitely...
I just don't know what they want.
...the only life is here?
Oh, no, no, for sure.
It would be crazy to think that we're the only ones alive.
But, like, there's obviously UFOs, but I don't know what they are.
Are they alien things?
Are they stuff from our fucking future?
I don't fucking know.
Do they live in the goddamn ocean where we haven't explored yet?
I don't know.
But, like, they could be...
be all of these things
or they could be none of these things.
That could be something else that I don't even fucking know about.
Fourth Dimension shit.
I don't know.
Like,
it's weird,
but like there's just too many questions,
you know,
and that's where it,
it makes me,
I find it funny when people land so hard on one side or the other.
And it's just like,
you don't know.
Like,
you don't know anything.
Like,
like the people are like,
we definitely landed on the moon.
Like,
how the fuck do you know?
Like,
or we definitely didn't.
Like,
how do you know that we didn't?
Like,
you weren't there.
But the fact that there's like, there's like, I have some questions about that.
Like, how did Richard Nixon call this motherfucker on the moon from his desk?
He had a desk phone.
It was like a rotary phone.
How'd he do it?
I mean, we get cell service to my fucking house.
You know, like, what I'm saying?
Like, they transmitted video.
Like, I can't even fucking do like a legit FaceTime video of my wife if I'm not on like the best fucking 5G spot.
You know what I'm saying?
There are some real questions if you look into it.
I think that we went to the moon probably.
Yeah.
But there are some questions.
Yeah, but like the question.
I'm not willing to say we definitely didn't.
I'm going to stay on my ground on that.
I think with the questions is like, why do we go back?
Like, oh, we lost the, we lost the knowledge.
Like, what does that mean?
We lost the, you lost the paperwork.
There was a clerical error.
Now we can't go back to the moon.
That's a big fucking oops.
There's a whole belt of debris that we can't figure out how to get across right now.
It's just like the weirdest stuff.
It's just, you know, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I
question everything. It's like, and I love putting on like monster hunter shows. I love
crypto, cryptozoology and all that stuff. I don't know if any of it's real, but I do like
the idea of it. And that's always my thing. You want to believe. You want to be. Yeah.
Like we're driving around the mountains where I live and my son's like, is bigfoot real? I'm like,
I fucking hope so, man. That'd be awesome if you was. Wouldn't it be fucking tight if we lived
in a world where there's a big foot? Like, and it's not just all this bullshit. There's
actually bigfoot's. That would be great. I was always a lock nest person.
Like, I really want Loch Ness to be real.
I mean, it's probably not, but I really hope it is.
I mean, it is a big ass lake.
It is really deep, but what they're claiming it is.
But, I mean, you would think at some point it would be like, what's up?
I know, right?
So, I don't know.
At this point, I'm pretty convinced of UFOs and given the, like, definitive proof that there is,
Sure.
It starts bringing up
about people
who have like come up in the past
like Bob Lazar like fucking
Roswell like stuff like that
and I'm like
man all these stories kind of align
is that real?
Maybe it's real
and if that's real
what else is real?
Yeah I mean I just
I just kind of question everything
it's like people are like
look at these new photos NASA released
I'm like I don't know if those are real
Guardians of the Galaxy
looks fucking real too
You know what I'm saying?
Also true.
We have the technology.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
What is this?
Some man took a picture of this with his telescope.
Cool, I guess.
That's what you're saying.
What I'm absolutely certain of is that our government has been full of shit for a really long time.
Oh, well, they just realized about a lot of things.
For your own good, Philip.
For your own good.
Of course.
And we don't know.
Half the shit we think we know.
You know, we're like scholarly ants under the highways.
And like, what I'm most interested when it comes to that stuff is like ancient history.
Yeah.
Like, what is all of this shit?
Like, they're like, like, you look at Stonehenge and they're like, yeah, a bunch of fucking druids made it or some shit.
Like, summer solstice.
And you're like, what?
Yeah.
How they come up with.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Years for that.
They're like, we don't really.
know how they did it, but they definitely
had orgies over here when they were praying to a
pagan god, you're like, what the fuck are you talk?
How do you know that?
Nobody puts up a
fucking statue of a cat and
they think that they're like
praying to cats.
How many fucking cat statues do we have
right now? If somebody digs us up
two million years from now, they're going to
think that we fucking
were, the cats and dogs
are our deity.
Steve, weren't you guys
saying that the stones
Steve, you guys said the stones at Easter Island
weren't even like in that area?
No, the rock that they're made of
is not even from that island.
Right?
It's like, no shit.
They also have the same stones, the same carvings
all the way across the fucking world.
And they're buried up to their goddamn neck.
They have no idea how they got there.
What they're there for?
Those heads on the island,
aren't just heads that are just sitting on the fucking hillside, their whole ass body's buried.
Yeah.
How?
There's some crazy shit.
No, no, just questions, but no answers.
Like, it's, it just, it makes you think.
And, like, you have no idea, like, everyone puts so much faith in like, well, this is carbon-dated
to this.
And it's like, how do we know carbon dating's rock?
Right.
You know, shit.
Well, and you can't carbon-dating's rock.
They carbon-dated the shit around the rock.
Right.
So it's-
Ah, okay.
It's just a lot of questions.
I got a lot of questions.
I don't trust nothing.
You're a natural-born skeptic.
I got you.
Skeptic, but I also like, you know, I'm kind of like moldering the way like I want to believe.
Yes.
Gotcha.
I want to.
I'm giving you, I'm giving all the weird shit the benefit of the doubt.
So.
All right, man.
Well, that's conspiracy corner for tonight.
So, Brian, save us with some headlines, man.
All right.
Headline number one.
Aliens are fucking real.
Oh, 100%.
I don't know what in what way, but 100% real.
Title of the episode.
Let's see.
Everybody's favorite actress, Jen Ortega,
is in talks to play Lydia's daughter in Beetlejuice 2.
Huh.
With Winona Ryder and Michael Keaton returning, of course.
I can see that.
She's in everything else.
Why not?
Yeah.
I mean, she definitely fits that vibe.
Right.
She's the It Girl right now.
And she's also rumored to be in the Daredevil Disney Plus show.
What?
Who is she going to play in that?
White Tiger, I think.
Yeah, well, that's fancasting, I think.
Oh, is it fancasting?
Yeah.
It's said in a major role, so.
She's a tiny little person.
Yes.
Like I saw her, she was on.
like Saturday Live or something.
Right, right.
And like she's wearing these six-inch heels and still shorter than everybody else on the stage.
Oh, wow.
She's just a teeny tiny little person.
She would still tower over Tom Cruise.
Maybe she's a goblin.
Maybe she's a goblin, yes.
She is tiny and later on we'll talk about how Hayden Pantieri is a tiny person too.
Really?
Okay.
I always thought she was.
She looks very...
Petit.
Yeah.
Oh, you're referring to the new
young Martha Stewart.
Yes.
She's not the cheerleader no more.
No, no.
Well, you know, now she hangs out with Snoop Dogg, so, you know.
All right.
Eli Ross Thanksgiving movie
has been picked up by TriStar and we'll get a theatrical release.
Of course it will.
No surprise there.
No surprise there.
I kind of waiting for Eli Roth to do like a really good movie.
Like I keep hearing that he's like really good.
But like, Hostel was all right.
I mean, I definitely felt tense the first time I saw it in the theater.
But like that earthquake movie he did was we.
Remember that one?
I think he just produced that one.
Did he direct Green Inferno?
Yes, he did direct that one.
That one, like that one again, like the trailer,
I was like, ooh, I'm going to see some shit in this movie.
and then, eh, like,
which one was it?
I've seen worse.
Green and Fern.
Have you guys,
what is the one he did with Keanu?
That one is hilarious.
Which one?
Kiano?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where his family goes away on a trip,
he stays home.
Oh, knock knock.
One with Adama de Armas in it.
Yeah.
And basically they bang him and.
That shit goes bad.
Yeah.
Where you're like, well, I guess that kills that fantasy.
Honestly, I could.
I would have done a thing differently.
I always...
I would have been in this trap.
I always tell people to watch the movie
because I'm not sure if
Keanu is being
serious with his acting, or
is he just totally phoned it in for that?
Because there's, like, moments in there.
I'm like, it's hilarious.
I think he's channeling Dane Don
in that one, Brian.
He was just exercising his John Wickrolls
because, like, man, that new trailer,
like, every time he's like, I'm gonna
I need a gun.
You're just like, God, like, what a weird delivery.
Like, you just like hamming it up now.
So, I love the scene where he's like riding on a horseback in the middle of the fucking desert and he shoots someone on a horse.
Like, what?
It's Tom Cruise's a show.
Giano Reeves impersonation.
That's so random.
He's still in that same fucking suit and tie in the middle of the desert.
Like, does they keep providing new ones for them?
The same exact one.
That trailer came on both movies when I went.
to the theater on Friday.
Like, I laughed.
I laughed both times.
It's just like so awkward.
Like, you turn around and John Wicks on a fucking horse.
You're like, fuck.
And a full suit.
Three-piece Armani suit.
Which totally fucks up what was so great about the second one because it was like, the gun
cata shit was like, oh man, they're using like some real martial arts here.
Oh, yeah.
But then three came out and they were like, fuck it.
Yeah.
do cool shit for two hours.
I'm here for it. I like it.
Yeah, we're all in.
Lance, this one will make you happy.
The Exorcist sequel slash reboot has wrapped filming.
It won't make me happy at all.
If this is anything like Halloween ends, Jesus Christ.
What if it stars Dane to Hum?
Ah.
As the, as Pizzou, as the devil.
I can buy that.
It's a regular little girl, but then she gets possessed and turns into Dane down.
No, no, no, no, Jack Black.
How fast would your clothes fly off, Lance, if you didn't even know Dane was even in the movie and he just walked out on screen?
The head slowly turns around and it reveals that it's Dane Don on the body.
I would be like the Black Saint and prayed that my theater was empty so I could take off my pants.
And then get arrested like Pee-wee.
That's right.
Okay, let's see.
You know there was some more
news.
Eli, not Eli Ross, Sam, Ramey,
they're trying to develop a sequel to 2009's
Drag Me to Hell.
Do you guys want to see a sequel?
Not really.
You didn't like that movie, Liz?
I mean, it was okay, but I mean,
I mean, was it that great?
Does it really deserve a sequel?
I thought I kind of set up a cool world of like gypsy curses and stuff.
Like that was pretty sweet and, you know.
So did thinner.
I mean, you know, if you want to go in that direction, I mean, come on.
That movie was terribly awesome.
I don't watch a sequel to Thinner.
That was just so bad it's good movie.
Fender was so good.
That strawberry pie.
Would you guys want to see a sequel to Haunt?
Sure.
Haunt.
Which one was that?
Is that the haunted house?
Yeah, where they were, it was kind of like almost like Macaamy Manor where they were actually really harming people.
I mean, I guess so.
It would be nice if they had some like original fucking content.
Hey, go watch Unwelcome.
That's original.
Is that good?
Oh, oh, yeah, unwelcome.
Okay, gotcha.
That's why.
Were you listening?
Maybe I'm a little green tonight.
Who knows?
Let's see
Bruce Campbell says that they are actively
developing an evil dead animated series
Interesting
Dude they should have done that
25 years ago
Yeah
But if they're doing it now
Animation scares me
Because like it could be cool
Like the new
He Man animation
And like Castlevania shit that's on Netflix
Or
It could be terrible
Like that new
Fucking Thundercats cartoon
It's actually new Thundercast.
Does it have Snarf in it?
It's like it's like bubbly shit animation.
Like, like a, like, I don't know.
I don't even know what kind of showed a reference.
It's this weird kind of new animation.
And they did an Aquaman show on HBO Max that was just like that.
It's like this terrible, terrible animation.
Have you ever seen like Thundercats now?
It's really bad.
The show
The show itself is really bad, but the
intro is still fucking right.
Oh, yeah, no, totally.
I was on the Thundercat soccer team when I
was like, five, they used to love that show.
Oh, nice.
That's when I decided that I hated soccer.
And the content is very questionable.
Like, like, the dialogue
and Thundercats, like, you're like,
yeah, the dialogue is bad.
No, but it's like questionable shit.
They say shit where you're like, did they,
did they really just say that?
Like, they call it.
other pussies or what?
I don't, I can't pull up an exact example, but I know I have like the first season
on DVD and like I put it on one day for the kids and like I had to turn it off.
I was like, I just don't think you should watch this.
As long as I don't call them Thunder Twots, I guess we're okay, right?
There's one too many cat reference.
The 80s were a different time, man.
You could say different shit in the 80s.
Yeah.
Like the F word, and I don't mean fuck.
I don't think that that was in the show, though.
Anyways, movie.
Let's see.
Isabella Merced was going to star in Fedé Alvarez's new alien movie.
If you guys don't know her, she was Dora in the live action Dora the Explorer movie.
Oh, that one.
Yeah, that one.
Which, which, not for nothing.
It wasn't terrible.
No.
Like, they made fun of it, which was the best thing you could do.
I remember taking my daughter when she was younger to see it,
and I remember I wasn't mad that I was there.
I remember you talking about that, right?
It wasn't.
I thought I was just going to be like, uh, through the whole movie, but.
So shit happens.
It's funny.
Yeah, like Steve said, they kind of make fun of themselves throughout the movie, so.
Hmm. But did it have Antonio Banderos in it?
No, but Benicio del Toro was the voice. What's his name? Swiper.
Michael Pena.
Michael Pena. Michael Pena. Michael Pena is always great. Everything he's in.
I'm going to have to watch that.
So you had the collector as Swiper. It kind of makes sense, right?
Yeah.
let's see
Jack Kese
I believe you say
how you say his name
he's the new hellboy
the only thing Lance
I recognize him from
the that show you
put me on to Clause
Ah okay
You know
I'm probably going to say
Character name
and everybody's going to be like
Who are you talking about
But okay you know Uncle Daddy
Yes of course
His son
The main one
Okay but not
but not the one that was the one that was yeah him okay he's hellboy
ah that actually might work out okay and from what i know about the story of this hellboy it's like
from the comics where he's like a younger hellboy it's like a one of his first missions it's like
interesting well this guy's hellboy he looks like in the 50s in the appellate carry and machine gun
Kelly had a baby. I mean, I mean, if you throw 16,000 actors into the role of
Hellboy, eventually one of them's going to hit, right? I mean,
I didn't like the David Harbor one. That one was not good.
Pearlman hit. That was fine with me. Well, yeah.
He already looks like an animal. That's true. It's halfway there. Especially when he
spoke to that cigar, right? You didn't even need a ton of makeup.
And lastly, Amazon is looking to revive the polter guys franchise.
No.
We're done.
We didn't.
We didn't all like the Sam Rockwell version that came out of the TV?
See, I'm fine.
I'm fine with it if they tell a new story.
Don't look away when I'm saying I'm fine with something, Lance.
Don't show the same fucking clown wrapping around the kid's neck again.
You can tell other polter guys stories.
don't have to keep remaking the same thing over and over.
Okay.
All right.
I got you.
I got you.
It's kind of like paranormal activity, though, right?
It's pretty much all Poltergeist movies in a way.
I can't.
And, Lance, if this will make you happy, Dane Don is on a show on Amazon Prime.
Am I right?
Is he?
I think he's on some show about cartels or something.
He don't do movies no more.
He does TV.
Yeah.
He's going to be like Stephen Seagal
where he has like a fucking cop show in New Orleans.
Oh my God.
As long as he doesn't go become a Russian citizen,
we're okay, I guess, right?
Dual citizen.
Let's get it right.
Jesus Christ.
All right.
Is that the news, Brian?
Yeah, that's the news.
All right, man.
Steve, you ready to go to the trailer part?
Let's go.
Okay, we're going to bring you the big, the small,
and sometimes the very, very weird.
Brian, what is our first new trailer to talk about tonight?
First one is a teaser, and Phil, this one's for you.
Returning, Lulu Wilson.
Oh!
The wrath of Becky.
She's making a comeback.
Let's see.
Two years after she...
Two years after she escaped a violent attack on her family,
Becky attempts to rebuild her life.
in the care of an older woman
A kindred spirit name
I'm not reading this whole thing
This just goes on.
Lulu Wilson
Loule Wilson is Becky
Back
Bill's all-time favorite childs
Yeah buddy
Hey that first one was a great movie
And it was probably the first time
I'd seen Lulu Wilson
Where I was like
Right
All right
She's like maybe making the transition from Shirley Temple Child actress to real actress.
So, hey, I'm hoping for good things.
I love the movie.
It looks fun.
I mean, they're giving her a whole arsenal of this movie.
You've got to montage of her with her weapons laid out.
She's got Amity.
Yeah.
Instead of fucking up Kevin James, she's fucking up Stifler now.
Yeah.
Which is great.
Because when's the last time we saw Stifler and anything?
Lethal Weapon TV series.
I just hope his mom shows up.
I hope she leaves the White Lotus long enough to show up.
Yeah, she's not as like Stifler's mommy as she used to be.
You know what I mean?
I like the first Becky, so I do.
I'm excited for the wrath of Becky, more cool shit.
Becky, too, the wrath of Becky.
they strand her on a deserted planet.
Captain Kirk and Spock strand her.
Yeah.
Let's be real.
It's probably going to suck a lot.
But you think so?
There's a potential for it to be kind of awesome.
And so I'm hoping for that.
Well, honestly, Brian, when I saw this trailer,
I didn't realize that this was a tie-in to that movie Becky.
Until like toward the very end.
And I'm like, is that the same?
character from
it is it is so I didn't even
realize when you said the wrath of Becky
I thought it was a totally different
like an A24 style
indie movie well you see
what they did right is in the first movie
their main villain they didn't cast
like some ridiculous
it wasn't John Travolta you know what I mean
it was Kevin James so now
like anybody you gets kind of like
either a lateral move or a step up
you know like it's not okay
you would think except Kevin James
fucking killed it.
He did a really good job. Yeah. The King
of Sweden got it, didn't he?
Oh, no. One of the
directors I'm looking at her filmography.
Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
I told you it's probably going to suck.
She's done a couple of
Netflix movies that are
fucking garbage. Oh, no.
One of them is the open house.
Ouch! That was
so boring, man. So boring.
That one was rough. I don't
think I watch that one.
You don't.
You don't need to.
It's the kid from goosebumps and...
Oh yeah, the kid that got killed in the last screen movie.
Yeah, he just runs like through the house in the dark
because he hears things for like an hour and a half.
It's like Skinnam and Rink, which I fucking told all you guys about.
I fucking told you.
I still watched it.
He had to see for us.
But every time I come across it, I'm like, should I?
Yeah, it's worth the watch.
Come on, it's worth the watch.
It's like one of them things.
Like, you should get something for watching it, like a t-shirt or something.
I know, I can't see in that.
I made a big of a Merrick.
A Lego, a special Lego piece.
A collectus.
Like an Xbox achievement.
We watched the trailer the last time I was on.
It was that back, not Bagwoods.
Was it a bag?
No.
Oh, outwoods or?
Outwaters.
Outwaters.
There you go.
The outwaters.
And I know you guys are like, everyone's like, it sucks.
Like, it's an hour of bullshit.
But then like some kind of cool shit happens.
But then you're just.
looking at the ground a lot and I'm like I still kind of want to watch it.
No, I like I would watch it. It's so fucking weird.
Yeah.
You know, there's there's so many scenes of like little flashlight on the ground that it like I know.
It's definitely, Steve, it's definitely one of those movies you watch it.
It hurts my eyes.
You'll probably come up with a different conclusion than me or Phil did.
But if you just got to make it through that first hours.
Show more of the screen than a flashlight circle.
You can't do that the whole fucking movie.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
I'll still check it at some point.
But yeah, when does the wrath of Becky come out?
I don't see a release date.
Huh.
Yeah, right around the corner.
Well, then they don't want us to talk about it anyways.
Yeah.
I'm sure Brian will have us watch it.
September 15th gets a release in Turkey.
Weird.
release date and turkey
IMD says September
15th, 2023
Turkey. Why not?
That last one went totally under the radar.
Did it?
And it was a great fucking movie, man.
I wouldn't say great.
I thought it was great. I had a lot of fun with that.
Are we going to finally find out with that key unlocks at least?
No, they'll just never mention it.
Oh, God damn it.
See, that's what I hate when they
leave a, they do a red herring
and they leave it open-ended like that.
Like, what the fuck?
They'll talk about it in Becky 3.
Oh, there you go.
The trailer.
It wasn't a key. It was a MacGuffin.
Well, Becky 3B, it'll be like the legacy of Becky or...
I guess.
The legend of Becky.
All right.
Becky has a forno with Maxine.
I don't know.
Our final trailer is a new horror comedy called The Blackening.
I love the tagline on this poster
What's the tagline?
We can't all die.
We can't all die first.
Or we can't all die first, but that can't be the whole movie.
That's what worries me.
Yeah.
I hope they don't just, you know, weigh on that whole joke, the whole fucking movie.
No, from what I understand, it's going to play on a lot of horror tropes,
especially when it comes to black characters.
That's why we got the...
the black character always dies as far
so so who's the choose who's the blackest character out of everybody
he's like nah I'm gay
way they
guys like I haven't seen Friday
so it's a little bit cap cap it in the woodsish
it sounds like it's gonna have a whole lot of
Easter eggs and tropes in it
gotcha
looks interesting I'm in it's a questionable game
I don't know if you'd ever want to
Purchase said board game.
Yeah, and it's also, from what I'm seeing,
it's going to play on a lot of,
not just with black characters,
with traditional tropes and horror movies.
Sure, sure.
Like, the lady's about to say something,
everybody's like, don't you say it.
And then she's like, oh, we got to split up.
You need to split up.
Oh, yeah, I caught that line.
It looks funny.
Yeah.
I got to say it looks funny.
And as much as I hate, like, oh, my whitey, we, friends, we get together and talk about crack shit.
That's the point.
It's got to be, you know, the racial stuff gets a little much.
But black folks ain't lost such a fucking sense of humor, man.
This looks pretty funny.
Any idea who's directing it or writing it?
Is it like anyone who has any credentials at all of, you know, like anything that we've enjoyed in the past?
That's what I'm curious about.
First thing I thought is, is this like first time filmmakers or is this, you know, some well-established?
He's got quite the filmography here.
Really? Okay.
His name is Tim Story.
All right.
He's directed such classics as the Tom and Jerry movie.
The Last Shaft movie.
Okay.
Okay.
Didn't he do Fantastic Four?
Yes, Fantastic Four.
No.
Which one?
The first two.
Right along.
That was.
Those are really bad, right?
Yeah.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
Those Fantastic Four movies were so fucking horrible, man.
Come on.
I didn't hate them.
I didn't hate them.
They weren't good, but
Steve, what did you think, man?
They were good for what we had back then.
I mean, what else could we compare them to?
Better than Roger Corman's version, do you think?
Have you seen that?
The one nobody's seen.
Oh, I've seen it.
You know, have you?
Yeah, I watched it.
Remember that movie?
Fantastic review.
That was a fantastic movie.
Oh, I missed that, man.
Remember that movie The Boy Who Can Fly?
He played fucking, he played,
Johnny Storm.
Out.
That makes sense, I guess.
God, the special effects.
That was a rough one.
That was back in the early,
that was back in the early days of the geeks.
That was like the first two years or something.
Aye, aye, aye.
X-Men does not get the credit.
X-Men does not get the credit they deserve
from making superhero movies what they are.
Well, you got some X-Men stuff coming up.
What's the trouble with all that?
Brian, you know, and Steve,
I think you have an idea.
Like, don't they have some, like, weird contracts that they can't do new characters until, you know, so many years?
The actors had contracts with Fox when Fox was bought out by Disney.
So, there's disputes, but, I mean, all that shit will get a handle.
I mean, fucking.
Why doesn't Disney has all the husbandy they need?
They just buy those out, man, and get young actors.
They will.
I'm not worried about that shit.
I don't want to see fucking Hugh Jackman is Wolverine yet again.
I mean, come on.
Disney was like, hey, Sony, you suck.
Let us use Spider-Man.
They're like, okay.
Like, they're going to figure it out.
It's not a big deal, you know.
They sure are taking a sweet time.
Also, we own everything.
Do you want to work with this?
And then Marvel had the balls.
You wouldn't work against us.
Marvel had the balls to actually be like,
and check this out, Sony.
We're actually going to use the other Spider-Man's and make them tight again.
And then they did it.
Right, right.
Right.
I guess we're going to make Madam Webb and Morbius.
like, get out of here.
Get the fuck up.
Yeah, every time Sony comes out with a new superhero movie, it's like, all right, it's time to stop.
Have they done?
Have they done?
Man beast yet?
In line for that Craven the Hunter starring fucking kick-ass is going to be fucking Jesus Christ.
No, they did do.
They did do Man Beast in the Halloween special or something like that?
Oh, Man Thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Man Thing.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I was like, are you talking about that guy?
Cat from He-Man, but I thought that was piece of it.
I got my name's wrong.
Sorry about that, man.
But like, I think in the Craven the Hunter movie that like he's actually going to be like
an advocate for animals or some shit, you're like, ah.
I don't know, man.
Every time I saw Craven the Hunter, in the comics, I visualize Freddie Mercury.
So, I don't know.
It's just silly what they're doing over there.
The fun thing about Craven the Hunter is nobody gives a shit.
Yeah.
I still haven't even seen that second.
You know what I mean?
What are you looking forward to more, Steve?
Craven the Hunter or Madam Webb?
Probably honestly, if I had to choose it to, probably Madam Webb because Madam Web actually deals with multiverse shit.
So she could actually do some cool, like, live action alternate Spider-Man characters that actually have.
spider powers if they're not using Peter Parker.
Like that could actually lead to some
cool shit. But like, I don't want to
see Aaron Taylor Johnson running around with a shirt on
button for half a movie. I'm cool.
I don't need that. But he's an advocate for animals,
though. But why is he a hunter
then? Like, it doesn't, I don't get it.
He wears a fucking lion's skin
as his costume. He's an advocate
until he gets attacked by one of
the lines he's advocating for.
And then it's on.
Jesus.
And Lance, your girl is Madam Webb from, what is it, 50 Shades of Grey.
Did you go to Johnson?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Why not grow a paycheck?
Why not?
But you know, it's funny as, like, all the people that are like, it's not comic accurate.
But, like, when they cast, like, Madam Webb's like his ancient, frail old lady.
When they're like, yeah, Dakota Johnson, everyone's like, yeah, that's fine.
That's cool.
That'll work.
Yeah.
I mean, I'd rather, you know.
Let's always come up.
Let's look beyond.
It's like, mm.
All right.
I see Maggie Grace for two hours.
I can check out.
All right.
We got off track.
The blackening, June 16th.
No blackening.
All right.
We'll be there.
It does look funny.
Better than those scary movie things.
Ah, maybe we should pair it with a scary movie, Ryan.
With what?
like scary movie scary movie or those other knockoffice like barlin's scary maybe i know i thought i thought
for a minute yeah we did we did the first scary that's why i thought we were gonna we were gonna do little
hand tonight but i guess we're okay we'll figure out this is my strong hand
with the mashed potatoes oh god yes the guy under the stairs from uh the dad lederman show right cabin boy
yeah yeah that was that was the best scary movie
So, gross.
All right. Feedback.
Oh, feedback.
All right.
Yep.
That's your cute.
Holy shit.
All right.
I hope we got some this week.
Fuck.
All right.
We do.
This week, we shine the podcast spotlight on to not one but two podcasts.
All right.
Sorry.
I just had to find it.
And I'm drunk.
I got off earlier today.
And nobody's home.
So.
First up, let's tip our hat to the horror nerds at church.
Horror nerds at church is a ridiculously queer podcast about theology and horror movies.
Hosted by Pace Warfield, May and Reverend.
Reverend. Revereign. Okay.
Reverend Ellie Ewing.
We're going to go with that.
The power of Christ compels you.
Let's also shout out.
the horror bandwagon, boo!
Guess what?
It's a new horror podcast
coming your way. Scary, we know.
Well, this
fall
joined...
I'm sorry.
This fall
join me, Sergio, as I try to
convince my boyfriend to love
her name is Sergio?
Wait a minute. Hold on.
It's a me. Asagio.
Oh, wait, that's Mario.
Never mind. Sorry.
I'm confused trying to
this sentence, man.
I'm sorry.
As I try to get my boyfriend.
We are slowly getting off the rails here.
Slowly.
This is a fucking Ohio disaster.
Hey, I'm just keeping a green and watching the fire burn, boys.
Let's go.
Should have read this beforehand.
Cody is a cool dude that I love and is a scary cat,
but also loves to rip scary movies apart.
Support the community.
check them out.
Horror nerds at church.
I have no idea what they are, but it sounds awesome.
It's such a great title.
Great title.
Best title ever.
Regarding Eli Ross' Thanksgiving poster,
Stephanie Horace says,
The Trampoline Scene makes me cringe every time I see it.
And I hope it's in the movie.
Brian created a poll.
What's your favorite horror movie?
from 1989.
So far,
the original Pet Cemetery
is crushing.
No!
Which one is so?
Pet Cemetery.
What's that, Brian?
The original, right?
The OG.
I thought you made.
I mean, in the remake's defense,
you did set it for that specific year,
so the remake can't even
try to compete.
I'll put that poll out next week.
Put that poll up next week.
We'll see how it goes.
We'll see.
But be sure to cast your vote.
Any votes to remake kids are going to be just like Lance supporters.
That's it.
So you'll see where.
It's like a popularity contest.
All one of them?
Did you vote for?
I didn't vote for Lance.
I don't know.
Food vote.
I don't know how we got there.
Be sure to cast your vote in our Facebook group.
Jen Aranda Perez says, dang a couple of good ones here.
Yeah.
an 80s movie lover apparently right yeah
for next year's March Madness
Heather Powell has agreed to host the show for us
oh that would be fun yes
and uh we promise a panel of female only judges
what yeah it's about time
it's been like a sausage fast up in here every March
madness let me come on guys
yeah well and Phil it is your turn
if you need to judge.
Judge?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was that it was female only.
Or make a tiebreaker?
Hey.
Oh, wow.
That should be interesting.
I was in a female only dorm for a long time in college.
Yeah.
Get along with women probably a lot better than that.
I've seen some fucking pretty awesome movies that start with that premise.
It keeps hiding in the closet
The whole time.
You're like that motherfucker from the original
Black Christmas, killing up in the attic
and shit.
For years,
I watched that from the far.
In silence.
But thank you, Heather, for your amazing offer.
I will happily
do whatever I can make that happen,
and hey dude if we can have a female only show
we need to we're way overdue
way overdo I don't think that works since like
we're here but
we can just we can just step away
yeah we'll have a female only guess
we'll listen just having them record the show
and send it to you hey man I'll listen whatever dude that'll be fun
we'll figure it out
Heather's a very smart girl
she's going to figure this thing out trust
me. All right. Let's get it, Heather.
Thank you.
Steve Carlton. Hey.
Hey, who's that? And I'm reading
your shit right now. It's like a
weird, twisted, alternate dimension thing.
Kind of meta. A little meta. All this stuff
would have been on last week's show, but it was the March
Madness, so it didn't make it.
Steve says, I watched a movie called Unwelcome
Last Night.
There we go.
A goblet movie.
Fucking awesome.
This is awkward.
This is awkward.
This is awkward.
We need a little giggly-eye sticker to put on us.
We're breaking time and space.
Yes, we are.
Which is part of the UFO thing.
Don't get me into that.
Uh-oh.
We might later.
Spencers of Horror, which we can have on for the March Madness, right?
Yeah, sure.
Sure.
I'd be like that maybe degrading, and I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks for sharing.
That's going to be Heather's call, man.
Regarding our Cocaine Bear show, Eric LaSalle says next it will be heroin bear.
He's just going to sleep.
Now, wait a minute.
Is that Eric LaSalle from the TV show?
show ER, that Eric
the song? Yes.
He listens to our
shuttle. We have a
famous listener. The only
one with that name.
I am looking forward to the cocaine shark
movie that's going to get him out.
Are they really doing that or you
Oh, yeah. Oh, there's already a poster
and everything. There's cocaine shark
and then there's a meth alligator.
Yeah.
And then I just
100 makes sense. It's going to all take place in the
I've seen one today
I forgot to post
Ninja versus shark
No
Ninja versus shark
I can't always see that
Ninja with fucking
Land or you're on water
That's what I'm saying
He's got a fucking scuba tank
Down there fucking whia
Let's do it
What's the setting
Because I'm gonna go ninja
Or
The shark
The shark gets on the land
And starts doing moves
Oh come on
I'm sure the movie won't do that great.
Derek Diedrickson says
Prophecy equals another good old bear horror flick.
Yep.
Prophecy is a good one.
Yeah.
I don't know that I've seen it.
Nice.
Regarding the new Dead Ringers,
Raven Rain says,
I've got a group for the show.
it's
I don't know how to say this
Dead Ringers
dash TV series dash on prime
hmm
I want to find it
I don't know what they mean
oh it's a Facebook group
okay yeah just go
just go to the post
in the Facebook group
and find her comment
and click the link
yes
I think it's like a
group to discuss the show
when it comes out
so
that's where we're going
with this
I knew that's cool
yeah
uh
Regarding Red Eye, Franklin Correa says,
Great Thriller.
Al Ramseur gives,
give Ramey his flowers.
Half the time,
I don't know what Al's talking about,
man.
I got to be honest with you.
He's,
give Sam Ramey his respect,
his,
his flowers.
Okay.
It's not a wait till he's gone to,
to give him his doom.
All right.
Steve here posted a
new horror movie poster in the group.
You've got to see to believe.
Hint is for M. Knight's next film based on Zim Vader's suggestions.
Check.
Oh, that was our.
That was our movie.
Yeah.
That was fantastic, by the way.
Everything just lined up.
It was like, Dane DeHan was perfect.
And then you were like, Bert Kreischer.
I'm like, well, now I have to make it.
This is going to be awesome.
He's got a new special coming out tomorrow, by the way.
And I wanted to fit Nes on there, too.
I wanted to have him, like, in the background, but it just didn't fit.
Oh, yeah.
So, but I remembered.
At least he's mentioning the credits.
He's mentioned in the credits.
You know, he's in the credits.
Uh, that's great.
Anyway, I was, that was super funny.
Um, Al Ramsewer says, uh, She Hulk has the Hulk's son, which leads into World War Hulk's story.
Is that real?
Is that true, Steve?
well
Hulk's son was on that planet
where when Hulk left
the beginning he went to go get him
so there could be a whole movie that takes
place between that
and when he comes back
interesting that could be like the
world war holt store animals right there
if I'm correct which I might not be
I'm not
you've read a lot more comics than
any of us have so
that's what we
we kind of ask you these questions, man.
Well, and David Day commented that spaghetti has noodles,
which are also present in Zondi.
I just don't understand what Hulk has to do with horror.
No offense meant just having a laugh.
We don't just talk horror on the horror returns.
I know.
There was the lady that got mad at us for our Western stuff.
She was like,
Spaghetti does have noodles, though.
That is true.
That is true.
Regarding upcoming Critters 2 screening with Mick Garris,
Jerry Cortez is, I'll be there.
That sounds like fun.
Yeah, it happened a week ago.
Yep.
Okay.
Yeah, we're a week behind our feedback, so it happened.
Jessica Tucker says
Pultergeist is one of her top three
favorite horror movies of all time
Strong words
So you know what? Maybe a
poltergeist revival wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
We'll see
Although a lot of people died in that
Pulter guys
So maybe leave it the fuck alone
Or maybe don't use real skeletons
Gross
regarding Antichrist
That's one that I started to watch
And then there was like
Oh man there's a lot of penetration here
Maybe I can't
I can't
Lars von Trur
And I not do not get along
I remember when I first put that movie on
For the first time
I was like
Yeah
Golly
Yeah
I shouldn't have to
I did a quick
I did a quick peek around
Like who's
You know
Yeah you were watching it
Because this would be the time the wife walks in.
Like, what the fuck?
You mean you didn't have it on your...
And you're just like, oh, well, that happened.
Yeah.
Steve, Steve, you didn't have it on your iPhone in front of you on the treadmill and the gym?
Was that you?
Oh, man, that's a bad luck, bro.
I don't know, but I've had to hit pause a lot of times before when I was doing that.
So Ariel Wellman says
Do not do not do not watch this movie
Yeah I got like 10 minutes into it
And I was like
And you did not
You doesn't get any better
This is not a movie for tonight
I had to watch it for the bracket
It was like
It was like Lance and you gave me a
I don't know what list you gave me
But some of the movies on the list you gave me
Were not in the bracket
I know dude
I fucked it all up.
I was like multitasking.
I was putting out fires at work.
I was trying to put the list together and the bracket.
I'm trying to hurry up and watch the movies I haven't watched.
I'm ready to talk about them.
And then I get the new bracket.
And I'm like, fuck the fucking this.
Well, okay.
And here's what I have to say about Under the Skin,
because I try to rewatch that.
Because I want to watch these bracket movies.
I like that movie, right?
Yeah.
And I realized
half an hour into the movie,
I've already seen this before.
Oh.
It just sucks.
Oh, no.
You didn't like seeing Scarlet,
Scarlet Johansson next?
Well,
that was a fantastic part,
but it was a boring fucking movie, man.
It was a lot to slog through to get to that.
I mean, when I was listening to the March Madness,
whenever it was going up against something,
I'm like, yeah, but that movie doesn't have Scragile Joe Hanson.
I saw it.
I know.
I was thinking the same thing.
She's gorgeous.
We'll get me wrong.
But it was like even watching, and it was a cool concept.
But I realized that I had already watched that movie before,
and then I started watching it, and it took me half an hour to realize that I had already seen this movie.
Dude.
How do you miss Scarlett Johansson hitchhiking around Scotland,
getting into vans with weird Scottish guys, and they disappear into black goo?
How do you miss that?
Because she's naked in the first five minutes of the movie, and then the rest of it is just garbage.
It's the same shit over and over again.
Sure.
I enjoyed it.
Call me crazy.
All right.
And Mirna says AcroStar Films just released the official trailer for horror romance feature
film Desperate Souls.
Living in the endless void of the afterlife, Moira survives on lust, despair, and grief
of men.
That sounds familiar.
This is under the skin?
I'm saying.
An existence...
Sign me up.
This sounds like a wonderful time.
An existence this entranterous has known for eons as a succubus.
You have my attention
Using her
Exquisite duties
She lures them with false hopes of relief
From the mental pain
Before consuming their broken souls
Does sound very under the skin, doesn't it?
Sounds like a good way to go
Yeah
Death by snooze, too
Sounds like somebody I know
I mean, all those skeletons were smiling, I'm just saying it.
When Moira hears the cries of Devin, a man whose life dances on the edge of a razor blade,
she's drawn to the pain she's never felt before.
Discovering they both found what they have longed for,
Moira is determined to keep them together and not let anyone stand in their way,
no matter who she must kill.
Hmm.
Mm-hmm.
with her succubis ways.
That sounds awesome.
Yeah.
Well, somebody knows how to write,
because that's a very damn good description.
It didn't come from us.
Nope.
Maybe Al wrote that under an alias.
Where's Marcus?
The motherfucker that writes a good shit.
All right.
Now it's time for featured attractions.
We'll start with...
All right.
we'll start with Cherry Falls from 2002
and then move on to Scream 6
And this is where I leave you gentlemen
For just a little bit
Because I did not get a chance to see this one
But Cherry Falls
Get the fuck out of it
You didn't watch it
I did not watch it man
But I'll return shortly
I gotta go take on the Grand T's
Huh?
I'm saying
Like all
Did you watch it see?
Of course
You know okay
Steve did his
You guys are good.
Y'all can handle it.
Okay.
Get out of here.
All right.
I shall return.
I shall return.
All right.
Jerry Falls, 2002.
Y'all, y'all play fast and lose with your rules over here, man.
Yeah, pretty much.
But, you know, it's funny.
It's like, it's, it.
But it happens with us all the time.
Like, Sean never watches the shit.
And then we just don't record the review.
Like, we watch it all the time.
And then I don't watch it.
Like, all right, well, fuck it.
So I'm used to it.
Well, I don't know how much you missed.
Well, I don't want to.
We'll see what we get, we don't get there.
Cherry Falls, in the small town of Cherry Falls,
a psychotic murderer is killing off the virgins of the local high school.
Director is Jeffrey Wright, also known for romper stomper and metal skin.
Neither of which I've ever heard of.
I've heard of romper stomper, but that's just because it's what's his name trivia.
Gladiator, Russell Crow.
But I also feel like Lance never chooses the movies that the director is known for.
Yeah, also true.
Is he known for something other than that?
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
Just some ambiguous films.
writer is Keb Selden, also known for White Lides.
Michael Bean,
Bine, Bean.
Initially wasn't interested in the movie because after reading 15 pages of the script,
he thought it was just another slasher movie.
His agent convinced him to keep reading,
Bean liked the satirical approach to the genre,
and decided to do the movie.
David Lynch was offered the script to direct,
and while he said he liked it,
he turned it down as he was in production on Mahal and Drive,
which was probably a good decision.
It would have been a completely different movie.
No kidding.
It would have been a better movie.
Maybe.
Steve, what do you think about Cherry Falls?
The first thing,
this thing screams
this is the time caps
a movie
this movie is dated
like good
you know what the fucking cold part is though
this is right when I graduate
I graduate high school in 2001
so this
this is how it was
man
the fucking spikes
and the
I graduate
the frigging
baggy ass clothes
and the 90s
the music
the horrible techno music
that played throughout this movie
it was just
grading
and
Come on.
It was
I had some questions.
You know,
what was the name,
Jay Moore?
Yeah.
Starring role for a young Jay Moore.
Brittany Murphy
constantly looking like she had...
Pretty Murphy looked like
she had a stomachache the whole time.
She just had this face like her tummy hurt,
the whole movie.
That's heroin.
That's definitely something.
It was just weird.
I could see what they were going for,
and it did kind of set up an interesting story.
But at the same time,
there was no good kills.
The gore wasn't really there wasn't really there.
And there were some,
is this kind of classified as a comedy too?
Because there was some legit,
almost slapstick comedy shit towards that.
I think unintentional comedy.
then it's really bad
you know what I mean
because like I was laughing but I'm like
should I mean does the movie want me to laugh
I'm not sure
so I feel like some of it
had to be there like
at least somewhat
intentionally well I mean
it is described as satirical
so
okay okay
therefore
I don't know I think
I think maybe we talk about it
we'll have to talk a little bit about
before we give scores but I mean
off the top
it's not something I feel
I'm going to revisit anytime soon.
So what about you, Phil?
All right.
Well, damn, you sent it back on me.
Yeah, this movie was not awesome.
Brittany Murphy was in the height of her probably drug-induced personality,
because I don't think that she did well in this one.
And I've seen her in a lot of things that I really like her.
And she's great and flueless, right?
She's fucking awful in this movie.
But so is mostly everybody else.
So I don't know if that's her fault or if it's everybody else's fault.
I feel like they were like, well, we're going to turn the horror genre on its head by killing the virgins instead of the not virgins.
But like people have been killing virgins since
the beginning of dying.
That also led to some questionable storytelling
on the film.
The solution to that
raised way more questions than answer.
I was like, is this a police sanctioned event?
What the fuck is happening?
Well, Michael B. did say,
treat it like a normal party
and just let it go.
I mean, they were like posting up there
like it was security. They were like, you know what I mean?
Stand back. We just want these kids to bone.
Like, it was just weird.
Yeah.
It was a little excessive.
I kind of can't even remember who the killer was.
It'll take me a minute and I'll go, oh, yeah, that was fucking stupid.
It was a starring role for a young Jay Moore.
Oh, that's right.
Yes, no, I called him out at the beginning.
It was either him or her mom.
And I called his fucking.
reasoning for it was
stupid
it would make any sense
Michael B
you could be my father
yeah
but I'm just going to assume that you
are my father
because we have the same color eyes
I love that I was said they have the same color eyes
that it did a close up on their eyes that are not even close to the same
I bet you Jay Moore
in his 20s
could make a beautiful one
but then again like maybe that was the joke
He's like, we have the same eyes.
And they were like, he doesn't.
Like, isn't that funny?
And like, maybe that's what they were trying to do.
Like, I don't know.
And it was actually directed by Jay Moore in the background.
He's just a shitty joke writer because he doesn't.
He just steals jokes.
It doesn't even explain why he chose to dress up like his mom.
And that's the other thing.
Like, the movie didn't have a cool, like, killer.
Like the look if it wasn't, because they always wanted to hide the face.
So you couldn't see the face.
You just could kind of see sunglasses.
I guess at times.
But it was like sort of like the killer was a woman.
Yeah, it never tried to hide the fact that every time you saw this person, he was this is clearly a man.
Yeah, like that every time, like it would put its hand, we put the hands on somebody and I was like, well, it was a man hands.
Got nail polish, but those are man hands.
I've seen Seinfeld.
Those are man hands.
Yeah, it was, it was interesting.
So I had like, and then there was like, I took a couple of notes here.
Like I thought that the, like, the fact that Jay Moore had like this giraffe tattoo that was just so prominent on his arm.
Yeah.
No other marks just this random giraffe tattoo.
And I was like, what is?
For what?
Is that no tattoos that he had?
I can't be.
Nobody gets that.
Come on.
It was like a Fisher Price drawing of a giraffe.
Like it was the weirdest thing.
Maybe it is.
I think I need to look that up.
Does Jay Moore have a stupid giraffe tattoo?
And then there was this...
Maybe he was a Toyser Us kid.
I don't...
There was a cop that had this
like this line that led to...
I knew it was happening.
He was like, what do you want me to do?
I can't just split.
And I was like, ugh.
And then right in the middle of his head.
The blade, I was like, of course.
The acting was so weird throughout the entire movie.
That's what I'm saying.
That's like...
Kids don't talk like...
Kids do not talk like this.
Yeah, I never understand.
witty and
well and then like
Brittany and everybody's playing
this like drugged out
super depressed like
she's got all this shit
going on but then like
smash cut she's like
doing physical fucking activity
with her dad in the living room
this is how you fucking
roll a guy over
and this how you do
she's like all right
all right
and I'm like
where does this energy
come from
and you do not
fall on your daughter
you do not
lovingly stare deep
into her eyes
oh that was a weird scene
where was that going
and why did they
he gets called away
and then she gets called away
and then she
looks at the water and she's like, oh, daddy.
I'm like, where is this going?
Yeah, that was super fucking creepy and weird, and I don't understand.
I had to check the link right quick.
I was like, wait a second.
Okay, we're good.
Am I in the right movie?
What was this?
Is this Poison Ivy Part 2?
God damn it.
I clicked on some weird shit, didn't I?
Yeah.
I mean, there was a couple of just weird cringing moments.
Like when he finds out that
virgins are being killed
and he goes and wakes his daughter up
and he was like,
what face have you gotten to?
This could probably wait until morning.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like late late.
You woke her up.
And again,
like her character doesn't make sense
from one scene to the next.
Like she's at school and she's just like
this super fucking emoed out.
And then at home she's like, yes, daddy.
And it's just like, right.
Which character?
Because like my daughter's,
not like that at school. But you know what?
She ain't like that at home either. You know what I mean?
Like it's just not how normal
people act. It just
wasn't a well-written movie. I think
it was shitty. I'm sorry.
And then
like that doesn't sound like I miss much.
And then of course the
finale, the weird. I mean that
was kind of cool. I kind of bumped the score
up a little bit for the end where he just like comes in
and just starts knifing everyone.
I was like this is perfect.
Like fish in a barrel. Fucking got them.
Stuck in the stairway because they can't figure out how to go down.
House full of half-naked teenagers having sex so they won't get killed.
They're just getting knife left and right.
Yeah, because they all showed up to lose their rigidity so they wouldn't die.
And then like the killer shows up before they can get there and just starts murdering them all.
So good.
And that big boy had like super confidence.
You see him walking around there?
Yeah.
The two nerds they had like DJ.
DJ Quarles.
Yeah, he was in there.
And then like he had like his big.
buddy, you know, they have to have the R2 and the C3PO.
So, you know, his big buddy's like walking around, like,
sees that thick girl on the side.
And he was just like, ooh, he had the fucking moves.
His shoulders were moving.
He was like, I'm getting some.
This is what we're here for.
It was like,
DJ, go get her.
And they had the stereotypical stoner who clearly was never really high.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, never, never.
And he was somehow knocking down, like, the prom queen.
Britney Murphy on the other hand.
DJ Quills
Well, Brittany Murphy for some reason
wrote her bike at night
To her teacher's house
Oh yeah
You even do me
Weird
Not a call
Can help with this giant trunk
You're pulling out of your fucking car
And take it into your basement
In the middle of the night
Sure I do
That's a hilarious scene
Because he throws the trunk down the stairs
And she's like, what's in there?
And she's like,
Your dad
And then she goes and opens the trunk
And then of course
the dad pops out like ah and then she turned around
and Jay Moore like screams crazy
and then he just knocks her out
he does and then he ties her up
so that he can monologue for her to escape
yeah and then there was some weird
motivations camera shots
like when the deputy gets word
that it's Jay Moore as the killer it does like
this kind of freeze frame slow motion
of her just going like
like I knew it.
Yeah.
Like, no, you didn't.
What are you talking about?
You didn't know shit.
And then, like, you know, that, of course, that move that her dad was teaching her
in the beginning of the movie, like, comes back.
And with that one move, she's able to, like, like, she threw Jay Moore, like,
threw a whole ass window and over a balcony with that one move.
And then he, like...
Or did he just sort of run out there and fall off?
I mean, it looked...
Well, that's what...
That movie said that that's what she did.
But then, like, yeah, he just, like, ran through the window.
I'm like, wouldn't he have gone through, like, back first, not head first?
Like, I don't know.
But then, like, he lands on the fence and he does the whole, like, rah, to get up thing.
And I love fucking double guns McGee over here.
Fucking, the deputy came out with fucking two guns.
Ah!
Yeah.
Fuck.
I thought dumb the fucking movie was.
And then, like, that one kid went away in his,
his hand was stuck to that kid's head.
Like, Jay Moore's hand got blown off and was like stuck to the kid's head off to the side.
Did you see that?
You notice that?
So ridiculous.
DJ barely got fucking credits in this movie, but he was in it.
And we had just watched a Jim Jeffery's stand-up special.
And DJ Quails is one of his good buddies.
And there's a whole bit about him in it.
It's fucking.
DJ Quills is, I believe, Bill.
on the poster.
Yeah.
Is he?
For some reason.
Because he's the only name in the movie.
In the cast list.
I guess it's not Michael Bean and Jay Moore and all.
I guess either way.
Michael Bean was in a different movie.
He was trying to do something.
And then the mom was in a whole other movie where she was just drunk all the time.
And she was getting too awkward close to Britney Murphy all the time too.
I'm like, stop kissing your adult daughter on the fucking lips every 10 seconds.
Yeah, man.
This is right after she was suggestively told the boyfriend,
I want to fuck you in the very beginning of the movie
when she walks up to them sitting in the car.
Oh, yeah.
She's giving them the fuck me, guys.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Well, and part of me thought that she was the killer because of that,
because she, like, bummed a cigarette off of him and stuff.
I think that's why they made her so wacky.
They're trying to throw you off and make you think she's the killer.
give you a red herring to follow.
But either way, this movie sucked.
Brian, I know you kind of talked about it, but what would you think?
I mean, the acting was weird.
The teenagers don't talk like that.
At least the teenagers that are, I guess they were supposed to be teenagers.
It clearly wasn't.
Brittany Murphy was, I think Steve said it right.
She was like one way in one scene
And then she was a completely different person
The next scene
I kind of
She was probably geeked out of her fucking head
The entire movie
Well it also
True
But it was also like she was playing like
Three different characters
Yeah
Like there
I can understand by the end of the movie
She was a different person
All the events
Built her up to
To be this person
That's going to take out the killer
But at no point during a movie
Did anything happen
to kind of build her up to that.
The whole interaction with her
and Michael Bean was just fucking weird,
because I thought there was going to be some kind of angle
where he was diddling her or something.
Yeah.
Well, he's a fucking creep anyway.
Yeah.
I mean, that whole flashback scene was something else too.
Like, golly.
Oh, the rape scene?
Yeah.
They put me on top, and I knew what I was doing.
doing. I was like, okay.
He's like crying, fucking spit coming down his face.
I'm like, God damn, you're really going for it in this shit, aren't you?
You're really going there. You're going to that place.
It was a weird purpose for a movie.
And then to have that scene in there where he like falls on top of his daughter,
like it's fucking Simba rolling on top of Nala.
You know what I mean?
Because that's exactly what is happening right now.
But it's weird because it wasn't just him, it was hurt.
Like, you ever see those clips where it's like,
replace the music and the movie gets weird?
Yeah.
It's like, why is this scene even in the movie?
The kills were super weak.
I want to know, because I know this is out on Blu-ray from Screen Factory.
It kind of felt like maybe there was more to the kills.
I don't know because I had to seek other means to watch this.
Same.
same
I just
I don't know
it just kind of
seemed like
the kills
there was more
to them
because there was
a lot of
cutaways
and
oh boy
you would have
hated it
anyways
Lance it's a
slasher movie
I like
some slasher
movies
name one
see
I'm not a big
scream
three
scream three
all right
and that's
that's what I'm
talking about
see
and I'm not
I'm not a big slasher movie person.
I love horror.
I don't love slasher's.
And this one was a particularly dumb one.
All right.
All right.
Scores.
Steve, what do you think?
This one I'm going to put right around four.
Four on ten.
Not bad.
That's almost halfway.
I mean, it was like I said, it was a time cabs,
movie it did remind me a lot of high school with the music and look at everything so it was a little
nostalgic in that way and you know for what it's worth it wasn't like nah it was all pretty
terrible but but it was like I guess it was like somewhat you know what it was it was the killer
scene at the end where he knifed all those kids that was pretty rare that'll do it that'll do it
j more Brittany murphy what else can you say uh Brian what do you think yeah I'm I'm at like a
three and a half.
I would give it up for the scene you're talking about Steve, where he's killing.
It was pretty hilarious when they're all trying to fit down the stairs and they're crushing
to one deputy.
Deputy, do we?
Yeah, then the banister breaks and they'll start falling all over each other.
They should have naked kids running out to the...
It's like trying to murder a bunch of lemmings.
I think they had a good premise.
They just didn't execute it well, and the kills were super weak, and the acting was all.
over the place, so three and a half.
Yeah, I'll
I would have given it a four, except
for the weird scene where the
dad falls on the daughter and they
make it romantic.
And I'm going to take a point away from that, because it's
fucking weird. So,
three. It really kind of seemed
like they were going to bang if he didn't
get that call on his radio.
Like, it legitimately
looked like,
you know,
stereotypical
roll around and fall on top of each other
And this is why the mom drinks all the time
Because her husband's creeds
100%.
Hey, I'll be, I need two minutes
Or maybe the directors of pedophile.
Maybe the dad was trying to save the daughter
From being killed, right?
Sure.
Yeah.
By making sure she wasn't a virgin.
Do anything to protect your daughter.
Yikes.
You?
No, I wouldn't.
Fucking weird, man.
Yikes.
God damn Hollywood.
Well.
But I mean, you got to admit it was an interesting premise because typically in horror movies, the Virgin gets killed.
Sure, sure.
All these teenagers are like, well, I'm not getting killed.
Right.
Bang it tonight.
It's kind of turn that.
It's weird that they all gathered in this random empty house.
Yeah.
And it was, oh, it was so weird.
Like, the slow music they were playing, and everybody was just awkwardly, like, slow dancing.
It's kind of like, so.
Are we going to fuck?
Or what are we doing?
I like how, how sex became the thing.
Like, that was the thing that did it.
Like, really more.
about a pure person that you're going to sacrifice, right?
In the history of, you know, Aztecs and shit.
Oh, we didn't even talk how stupidly the movie ended with the water turning red for no damn reason.
Huh?
Yeah.
You know, Cherry Falls.
Maybe I should have seen this, but maybe I'm glad I didn't.
Do you get it?
A little bit on the nose, huh?
She's my cherry pie.
All right
Well, let's
Let's roll in to stream six
Wait for Steve to get back
If we don't cross it
You'll never know the difference
Yeah
We're all sneaking away
For this one
I had to go check other grandkids
Because AJ's gone
So I'm like the only one here
Three grandkids and a
In a nephew
So they were
None of them were up to no good
They were all watching horror movies, so I'm proud of them.
They're up to know good when you're not there.
There it is.
Ah, that's true.
That's true.
It works.
Technically, I'm still here, even though I'm in the garage.
Side note, our cool of the week in the near future may be a new baby bunny in the house.
Because I don't know if I told you guys, but we tried to save a bunny.
That was sad.
That was sad.
Yeah.
So there was a bunny nest in our backyard because bunnies are dumb and we have a lot of dogs.
Right.
They ate them like little popcorn bunnies, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's what they do.
And we saved one, but it was like, it barely had any hair.
Its eyes weren't even open.
We tried to save it.
Whole family was disappointed because it died.
Yeah.
And now we may end up with a new pet.
in the near future.
Oh, one survived, or it's a new bunny?
No, but my daughter really wants a bunny now,
and so I think she's convinced
Mama to get one.
And it's not like I'm telling her otherwise, so.
Well, like, hey, another animal?
Let's fucking go.
Unlike Cherry Falls, they'll all fuck like rabbits,
so they'll all survive, I'm sure.
No, no, no, no.
We get a rabbit.
it, it's getting fixed.
Okay.
All right.
So, Scream 6.
In the next installment,
the survivors of the ghost-face
killings leave Woodsboro behind
and start a fresh chapter in New York City.
Ain't been a ghost face in New York City?
Yeah, Roe.
Director is Tyler
Gillette.
Matt Benetetetetetetinelli.
Easy for you to say it.
That's all right.
Bettenelli.
Sure.
Bettenelli Alpin, also known for Screen 5 and Ready or Not.
Okay.
Writers are James Vanderbilt of the Vanderbilt's.
And Guy Busick.
The film was greenlit on
February 3, 2022, three weeks after Scream in
2022 was released.
First acting credit for Hayden Penitieri in
five years. Is that really?
Really? I just saw an interview. She was worried about
coming back because of the time away from acting so long.
Oh, interesting. And the Martha Stewart effect, huh?
I don't know. She's got the hair too, though.
You know what I mean? It's like, is the hair too?
Right, right. Yeah, I gotcha.
That's right. She's like an adorable little midget.
Jesus Christ.
All right. Steve, what did you think about Scream Six?
So, you know, I didn't like the last one when we reviewed it here very much.
And I think one of my biggest problems with that was the same problem I had on my second watch through,
which I appreciated the movie a lot more of the second time watching it through.
but I think that our main actress Sam is not good.
I don't like her very much.
And I don't think that she's very good in this movie either.
Either.
But she's super hot.
Dude, she is super hot.
I'm not saying there's no complaint here about that.
But that means that she's good.
No, it doesn't.
The only explanation.
You can be hot and act not good.
And that's what she is.
So it's, but you know, it didn't really pull me out in this movie.
as much as it did in the other one.
So the other one leaned on her a lot more to carry the story through more than this one did.
So I will say that this had one of the best openings of a horror movie I've seen in a long time,
let alone.
And it was probably, it's going to be hard to beat Drew Barrymore,
but if it doesn't beat that, it's easily number two of all screen.
It was kind of an M-night beginning, wouldn't you agree?
It was just perfection.
And actually this week, I actually watched screenings.
Dream 4 and they kind of did some sort of thing that with the multiple stab movie openings
in the same way where you think it's one thing and it's not.
But like this one did that to way better effect.
And I'm glad because I didn't want a whole movie with that dude.
Sure, sure.
But he was in Willow.
Not as good as the Drew Graham Moore opening.
I'm going to say.
I know.
He was in Willow.
Exactly.
That show was not good either.
Like I've watched that show despite how that show was.
was like.
But I just, I thought the kills were brutal in this one.
There was some, I have some, you know, nits to pick at the very end because some characters
do some weird shit that didn't, that I, if they would have done like one thing differently,
this movie might have been the damn 10, but, you know, I have some nits to pick for sure.
But I really, really, really, really, really like this movie, like a lot.
I had a lot of phone with Scream 6.
Nice.
Nice.
It's very good.
That's for me until we get into spoilers.
Lance, what do you think?
I did not like this one as much as the one prior.
Although I did enjoy it.
Again, I'm going to go with Steve here
and the opening act was like probably the best
scream intro ever.
Don't want to get too much into it,
even though it was the very opening part, you know,
because spoilers and all that.
Oh, that's a huge spoiler.
I was incredibly, incredibly dismal.
disappointed with how quickly one person left the movie.
I was hoping would have a bigger part without saying anything more.
But yeah, kind of like the double and triple changes there of like who's behind the mask, shall we say?
It was kind of neat, you know, I like that.
I like the setup.
I like the blind date idea.
That was kind of neat.
That was kind of original for something.
I mean, you are right.
The kills were good.
There were some good gore in here.
There were some good effects, for sure.
As we got toward the end of the movie,
I don't know, man, it took me further and further out.
And the reveal I was not incredibly happy with,
although, how do I say it?
Because it might be one killer.
It might be more than one.
So I kind of saw something coming,
but the other part of it I didn't see coming.
Am I allowed to say that pre-spoiler, Brian?
No, you're not allowed to say anything.
Yeah, I know, man.
It's hard.
It's hard.
See, that's the problem.
With a screen movie or an M-night movie or whatever,
you really can't say a lot before you get into spoilers.
So there was one particular speech that I enjoyed where, you know, he said,
hey, this particular character said, hey, we're no longer in a horror.
movie, we're no longer in a sequel.
We're now officially in
a franchise. And
that was kind of cool hearing that
because I was like, okay, cool. Now we're
really fan servicing it, and I really
enjoyed the franchise line
there. But
the ending kind of took me out
of it a little bit, which we will have
to obviously wait until spoilers
to get into, but
I don't know, man, for the most part, I
like the FAB
4, as they call them
or whatever.
The core four.
Come on.
The core four.
There you go.
The core four.
I like the core four.
They sealed it with a high five.
Well, you know what?
And yet again, this is one thing that kind of bothered me a little bit in the prior movie is that you've got certain people that are attacked.
And there's no fucking way they would have survived.
There's a stab wounds mean nothing in the scream universe.
But at the same time, Lance, it's like, but you know what you're getting when you get to see a screen movie now,
especially with the last two kind of cementing it.
It's like, I don't go into a Fast and the Furious movie,
and I'm like, oh, man, like, you know,
this World War II epic was way better than this.
Like, well, fucking, you know, I go to a Fast and the Furious,
you know, I go to a fast and the furious.
So, you know, Scream kind of has that.
Like, there was definitely a moment where I was like,
wait a minute, didn't she just get stabbed?
What the fuck is she?
Yeah, I know, I know.
That's a kill shot.
That's a kill shot.
That's a big ass knife.
That little boy from Pay of Forward got stabbed with a pocket knife and died right there in school.
Again, I'm going to say that my favorite part of this movie was what was my favorite part of the last movie is where they really build on the meta part of it.
And now they're talking about, now we're in a franchise.
All the rules change.
Anybody can die.
I love that part.
And I love the character that delivered that.
That's actually one of my favorite characters that are in these new.
movies. So, you know, didn't hate it, didn't love it. Um, kind of sort of in the middleish,
but we'll see if you guys can pull me up a little bit. I like the new legacy characters,
Mindy and Chad. I do too. They grew on me. Chad. They grew on me. I don't know about,
I don't know about cute guy. That guy was annoying the shit. I didn't want any more of him
with his weird mouth. Hold on. You might be talking about. You might be talking about.
talking about the killer, so don't give too much away.
Brian, what do you think?
I had a lot of fun with this one.
I got used to the core four.
I really, I really like seeing them back.
Love seeing Martha Stewart back.
She just kind of,
I mean, Mark. I'm telling you.
Man.
She just adds something to the
to continue.
Like the, they always,
bringing up legacy characters and she was just one that you had to have come back.
I thought the kills were super fucking violent.
Even I've complained in the past of movies that are just stabby, stabby,
but if you're going to do stabby, stabby like this movie, I'm fine because they fucking go for it.
Yeah, sure, sure.
I do agree one of the best openings out of the franchise.
even though
I know what you're saying
Lance I was a
had to be that character
of course of course
I was a little upset with that
I did
kind of have a problem with the reveal
of the killer at the end
it's not who I wanted
because when it happened
or when the reveal was about to happen
me and my daughter I took my daughter with me
and she's a big screen fan
and we came up with
our own theories of who we thought it was.
And they kind of alluded to that person.
Right, right. And when the mask came on,
we were like kind of holding each other,
like, oh, this is it, this is it.
And then it wasn't.
I want to hear who you thought it was.
I want to hear you thought it was.
That's a sign of a good movie.
But I will say
they did kind of throw me off on when it was revealed
because it was part of it.
I was like, oh, I kind of see it.
But the other part, I wasn't really expecting it.
That's because the movie cheated.
Sure.
But the movie fucking cheated.
Well, they all do to an extent, though.
Wouldn't you say, Steve?
I mean, come on.
They have to a little bit.
Not really.
I mean, they can all kind of go back and you can be like, all right, I could see that.
I mean, I did have problems with that little girl from the last movie being the one that, like, killed Dewey by lifting his ass up.
It was like, I don't know.
But, uh, because, you know, that was a little questionable.
But like, well, this is when the movie was, like, cheated.
That they broke their own movies.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
But overall, I had a lot of fun.
My daughter had a lot of fun.
The ending does kind of tell you where the movies could go from.
I think they're, I don't know if they officially announced it,
but I think Seven is already greenlit because they had a story,
they had a story mapped out.
Yeah, it's a new trilogy.
Yeah, so a lot of fun with it.
A new trilogy?
I definitely have, I definitely have,
like theories or what
definitely what I would like to see the next one do
because I think they could redeem a specific
character for me if they go a certain way.
Huh. Yeah, a new trilogy
Phil, because you just cut three out
and then you go one, two, four
and then five, six, seven.
Yeah, because I'm going to tell you something right now,
scream four is fucking awesome.
Screen four rocks, dude.
Yeah, four were my least favorite
of all of them, dude. F-I-old.
I was crazy.
I could not
tell you the difference between any
Oh, it was like I guess playing soft trivia.
What about this one, though, Phil?
This one is pretty good.
Although I do have to throw in a cool of the week.
I went back and rewatch the first screen, and it's a ton of fun.
They have so many Easter eggs and little things to horror fans that are fucking awesome.
And so while I'm not normally a slasher movie person, this was a great movie.
Um, this one.
Uh, I, I definitely enjoyed it more than I didn't.
Um, but it was just kind of a slasher movie.
Jenna Ortega's in it.
She was great.
I, I liked, I, I think I liked most of the cast.
I don't know how far to get into that without going into spoilers, but, um, no, I did not
expect the, um,
the final killer.
Matter of fact, I specifically did not expect him.
Very specifically. Okay.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I like the way they went with it.
I had a pretty good time with it.
It was a fun movie.
Freaking Samara Weaving showed up at the beginning.
Is she British?
Yeah, Australian.
Are she Australian?
Yeah, she's Hugo Weaving's name.
Of course she is. Is that correct?
Yeah.
I think shit.
It's got to be Australian or British.
So question, guys.
On the bus, I didn't catch it,
but my nephew and one of my grandkids did.
Did y'all notice the character dressed at best Samara weaving from Ready or not?
On the bus?
I didn't either.
That was a fun scene.
Go back and see it.
There were so many fucking icons on that bus.
Yeah, that would have been a good scene.
That'll be a good scene on the future watch.
to kind of pick apart.
On this viewing,
I was just looking at all the different ghost face.
Of course.
I got to be honest,
like,
one of the big things about scream is that,
like,
the ghost face is one of the most iconic.
It's up there now.
It's up there with Jason Vorees now.
Like,
ghost face came in in the 90s and just like cemented it spot.
But it's the laziest and easiest.
Costumes to make it good.
Is it?
It's awesome.
I mean,
yeah.
It's the simple.
of the mask and it's just like, I don't know
what it is, but I love that shit.
It looks great. And I love that they did
like the Halloween effect with this one and like
made it old and cracked and shit,
you know, kind of like I did with the
Halloween,
the newest ones, but not
like the last one. Yes. Yes.
Yeah, like the scene in the bathroom,
for example, in the
first of the new Halloween movies
where the mask was all fucked up.
Yeah, yeah. Like, even when they
just show it to him at the mental,
hospital in the beginning.
Like, yeah.
It's just all broken and cracked and it just looks great.
Sure.
Age.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Technically it is Captain Kirk.
Still don't know how I'm bored I am with this supernatural Billy Loomis fucking
ghost.
Every time I see it, I'm like, well.
Yeah.
That's got to.
That's a little.
That's going to keep us guessing, though.
I just don't like this ghost aged.
Yeah.
I know.
It's like they keep trying to put the little bangs in his face to make it look like he's
young.
Yeah.
I know.
It's a little blurry, but...
Very blurry.
And this one, it was actually super blurry.
And then, like, there's a lot of moments like that where you're like, okay, what...
Like, I get it, but you have this mask on and you can only see through these little bitty eyes.
I know.
And you've got to put it on top of...
That's why he's always getting his ass kicked.
fooling anybody.
That's why he's always getting his ass kicked.
TK has no peripheral vision.
Or she's always getting her ass kick.
You can always catch this.
You could always catch ghost face with a vase.
Right.
Or like a fucking drape or something.
You know what I mean?
Like he can't see shit in that mask.
But he'll dodge a fucking bullet like that.
Yeah.
I know.
Or grab a shotgun.
It's shooting in the face.
Anyway.
But it was a good one.
It does bring another part.
to a, you know,
classic franchise.
Freaking
Monica looks like she's
had her face pulled back
like the goddamn...
You know what?
I will speak on that.
I feel like...
Okay, Brian?
I feel like her face
is a lot better
than the last one.
It is a lot better
than the last one,
but it's still...
I think they just kept
all of her scenes
in the dark this time.
That's why?
She loosened up her face
a little bit,
Brian?
No, I felt like five.
She must have had
something done
recently before shooting
and six
is her face settling.
Do they do
like two nights?
Do they do like two nights of Halloween
in New York?
Because it was just weird
like night one they were like all in costume
and then the next night everyone was in costume again.
I'm like, I could see that.
Like especially if it's on a weekend or something
they'd probably, you know, pretty much party all weekend.
Like there's extra San San Sunday.
So they do all Hallows Eve
and all
Hallows Day.
Okay.
Yeah.
In the Day of the Day and everything else, right?
For a minute, I thought it was going to be all in one night.
I was like, man, this is going to be a hell of a thing.
Yeah.
Not another Halloween movie.
It's a little different.
Scores.
Scores.
Steve, what do you think?
I'm riding under like an 8-5 on this one.
Holy fuck, dude.
I really did like it.
There are nits to pick.
I have gripes, and we'll talk about them in spoilers.
It ain't perfect.
But it damn well could have been.
It was close.
Wow.
I can't wait to hear what you think.
This is on the screen.
But like I'm,
I'm rating this against screen movies.
You know what I mean?
And for like,
for a screen movie,
it did what it needed to do.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
That's your score.
I'm very,
very curious to hear what you think
would have brought it up to a 10.
Oh, yeah.
You know,
we'll have to wait a few minutes for that.
Unless?
Oh, man.
It's, it's, it's, sorry.
Here comes five.
No, it's a six.
It's a six.
I liked it.
I liked it better than I didn't like it.
It's a six.
It's not as good as five.
You would have liked it more.
I'm going to say that I did not like it quite as much as five.
I think it when it dipped a little bit.
I think I got the feeling they rushed it a little bit.
They kind of rushed the reveal.
They rushed.
the screenwriting, they rushed
how quickly they got to
who the killer was.
In a way that they...
In a way they didn't do it by.
It was the longest movie out of the franchise.
I don't know how it got brushed.
I'm just saying, for me, it's a six.
All right.
Pass.
That's a good score of them.
Pass the ball.
This is an easy eight.
I thank you.
Damn.
What the fuck you didn't laugh at Steve's score?
But you like to why.
Oh, dude.
I mean, that's good.
That's great.
That's great.
Because I'm the guest.
I'm the guest, Brian.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I had a lot of fun.
When Lance gets murdered,
we'll know who the murder suspect is.
See, this is why we don't do too many slashes.
People ask me,
how can we don't do Friday the 13th,
and I tell them because I know exactly what Lance is going to say.
Not true.
Not true, man.
Not true.
You hated the only two we did.
All right.
You might have a point.
Not my favorite genre.
But at 8, I thought the cast was fun.
I like the core four.
I really like the twins.
They've grown on me so much.
Jenna Ortega was fun.
I have theories about where her character's going.
Wait, twins?
I thought she was the younger sister.
No, the twins, Mindy and Chad.
Oh.
Huh.
You have theories on where Jenna Ortega is going.
I guess we can save that for spoilers.
Yeah.
The kills were violent.
It's not too much I didn't like about the movie.
I can't say I hate the reveal of who the killer was just because it wasn't who I wanted it to be.
Fair enough.
They did it in a way I wasn't expecting it.
I'll go seven.
Not bad.
Not bad.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, for Slash a movie, the Scream movies are pretty good.
I don't hate them, you know?
It's just not always my thing.
I mean, there's an argument to be made that, like, Scream is a franchise.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, if you rank it up there with, like, the Hellraiser franchise or the Nightmare
and Elth Street franchise or the Friday the 13th franchise, like, pound for pound,
like good movies versus bad in a franchise, like, screams have got to be, like, up there, man.
You know what?
That's actually not a bad point.
I can't argue that either.
I mean, outside of three,
Scream is probably the most consistent.
Okay.
I mean, it definitely...
Yeah, because three...
Three was like here.
And the rest are like here.
So, I'll see your point, right?
I think you had that upside down.
Any of the franchises have got some real...
Stinkers in there.
And...
And Scream kind of doesn't.
Like, I mean, yeah, screen three might suck, but, like, I'd rather watch Scream 3 than, like, any of those shitty fucking Hellraiser movies that are in the middle there.
Oh, God, no kidding.
The Halloween typewriter, for fuck's sake.
The fat penhead.
Are we ready for spoilers?
Yeah.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
Who's first?
Steve, I want to hear it, man.
What would have made it to 10?
Well, if we're just going to jump around,
at the end, the killers, when they're, what they're revealed,
I mean, we're just going to get into it, right, spoiler?
So the killers are revealed to be a cop who's introduced in this movie.
I forget, yeah, Dermot Morroney and two kids, his two kids,
which happened to be, and I'm not even going to go into who all they are right now.
But they happen to be Richie's fucking family from the first movie.
And if they would have taken off their masks and actually shown that they were like hurting,
like they were out for revenge because you killed my fucking brother.
But instead they were like laughing and cackling.
Yeah.
Like they were fucking crazy people.
Like, but if they actually showed some like actual emotion and we're like, no, we're fucking mad at you.
Like we're, these kids are brutal because we're trying to fucking.
can kill you. You killed my son. You killed my brother.
This and this. That would have been
powerful. But instead it was just like, they were like,
what are you going to do?
I'll make you proud, dad.
Yeah, what the fuck? Did you see
their Mount Moroni coming, Steve?
I kind of, I did.
I kind of did. And he walked out
after finding his dead daughter
cheating movie in
the apartment
and then was like,
fuck with my family, I'll kill you. But he said,
it right to Sam.
And I was just like, he's in on it.
I figured it was him because when he did the, when it got to the part where he called Sam
and said that Martha Stewart, Kirby wasn't, um, it was no longer FBI anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I looked at my daughter and I was like, because we were kind of going back and
before, I don't know, when it was getting closer to the reveal.
I was like, it can't be Kirby because Kirby is like four feet tall.
I didn't see a little ghost face running around.
Yeah.
Boy, that'd be something, wouldn't it?
You're like, I know who it is.
Definitely.
Well, not her.
Like Steve pointed out from the last movie, it doesn't matter how tall or tiny you are,
you can lift up, you know, an eight foot tall.
The ghost face, the costume that has magical powers at this point.
Yes.
Right.
Um, where I was seeing, um, because, you know, after everything is said and done, I kind of feel like this movie can go somewhere with Jenna Ortega's character being a killer.
Because she seemed to enjoy killing people a little too fucking much.
Yeah, because see, they make it look like it's going to be her sister.
So they both actually look like they enjoyed it a little too much.
Okay.
Well, Sam definitely does. She's crazy.
Yeah, they kind of make sense.
They kind of make sense.
I don't know.
Certain facial expressions.
What was Jenna?
Tara.
Certain facial expert, like she enjoyed the stabbing.
Like, she was getting something out of it.
Sure.
Well, maybe because she gets, maybe because she has like 18 stab wounds over the last two movies.
At one point, she got knifed in the back, fell downstairs.
And that's like an eight-inch blade going through your back.
Yeah.
And she gets up and she's like, look, there's a ladder.
Let's go over this way.
I'm like, man, you brush that shit off so quick.
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty phony, man.
It was the one, like, crawling across the Asian chick that was, like, crawling across the freaking ladder.
Oh, yes, yes.
Between the apartments.
And they started moving the ladder.
Like, she got stabbed and then the knife twisted.
Yes.
And she's still alive and, like, hanging out.
Yeah, and as soon as she went to crawl over that ladder.
her for last because she's the slowest.
All that shit should have started
falling out of her belly as soon as she went on.
She put her
hand over it. She's okay.
Intestants falling out of her belly.
It takes
a while for like that
gut shot to kill you.
Right. That's pain.
We're talking like 20 minutes later. She's
fucking dead. Yeah.
She definitely died after she
melon balled off the trash can.
I was about to say a week.
If she would have died from the gut stab,
then we would have never got her falling,
bouncing her head off the dumpster.
I didn't expect that.
That was cool.
That was a good kill.
But it also wasn't as impactful because I was like,
well, she's already fucking dead anyway.
What are we doing?
I love how.
Was she?
Well, nobody.
You don't know who's going to die.
I mean, I thought,
I thought what's his name was for sure dead,
but apparently he's the new Dewey of the series,
He's Chad.
Chad.
She's probably going to have a limp in the next one.
Yeah.
Probably would.
You think so?
Like his alpha male literally named Chad.
Right.
I hope he doesn't have a football scholarship.
We got to touch on...
We got to touch on the opening and how the great Samara weaving is in here looking stunning.
And it's drawn out into a trap and an alleyway by fucking...
Tony Reveloory.
I think I embarrassed my daughter in this one.
Oh, really?
Because I vocally was like, Samara.
Hey, Brian, is it Tony Revely?
Is it that the actor that on Ben's cast they used to call Little Moreno?
Yeah, that's it.
Like, I love that, like, this ghost face kills Samara weaving in the alleyway and then
immediately rips off the mask and you see who it is.
And it's like, what the fuck?
Like what a mind fuck that is like right away.
You're like, okay, this is.
And then of course he goes home and gets the ghost face call.
And it's like, all right.
Now we're off to the race.
This is really cool.
That was awesome.
That opening was awesome.
And then like cut up your buddy and stuffed his body in the fridge.
God damn.
Like, that was amazing.
And then he's like, fuck the movies.
Yeah.
Like so good.
I was like juiced as soon as the screen title came.
came up.
I was like, let's go.
This is good.
The reveal,
did you have any theories on who it was going to be before?
Because me and my daughter, we were really hoping for Stu.
Yes.
Because they alluded to him.
They even said.
Oh, they said it in this movie.
They alluded to him.
Yeah, they were like.
If you believe it was going.
Yeah.
So I don't know if that's setting up something later.
That should be setting up something for the next movie.
You know, like even if it's nothing.
more than them like going in and having like a Hannibal Lecter
esk scene where they like that full fulls just fucking in itself
all fucking you know
scarred up and shit
crazy in there right right right
fucking dying man
that could be it could be awesome
who did you think the killer was gonna be
I thought it was Stu
I kept I kept thinking
I kept thinking they were hiding at all and it was going to be
Sydney I thought
I mean, that's what I was thinking the whole
What about Sydney?
She wanted too much money.
Sydney's too pure.
She ain't going to, she's gone through too much shit to be the killer.
So do you think she'll be in the next?
What's the last movie she was in?
Scream.
Scream 5.
Yeah.
Right?
And it canceled TV pilot.
Really?
Yeah.
Something.
Do y'all think she'll be in the next movie?
I mean, this probably should have been a movie.
movie news, but from what I heard, they
tried to underpay her.
They tried to pay her as the
same as the rest of the cast.
Ah, okay. And she
originally was going to be in the movie, and then
they were underpaying
her, so she was like, I'm not doing it.
Yeah. You know,
I'm Sydney in the
movies, you know, I've been through every single
movie. I'm, you know, the main person.
Right, right.
So they didn't do it, and they, I guess
they ended up rewriting the movie, because
this wasn't the original
playing movie.
Interesting.
Okay.
So like, so after,
after Samara Weaving and the two boys in the beginning,
and then you get,
right.
Is there any other,
like,
actual,
besides the girlfriend on the ladder,
is there any other actual deaths in the movie?
And the shop owner,
I guess?
The shop owner.
Lots of,
lots of events in the show,
right?
The psychiatrist.
He got stabbed in the,
The psychiatrist scene was amazing with the ghost face mask and the frosted glass.
That shit was great.
Oh, he put his fucking hand through a front door glass.
That's not possible.
Now, is that, is that the same?
The suit has magic power.
Is that the same guy that was the patriarch and ready or not?
Yep.
Yeah, I thought I recognized him.
Yeah, so.
That guy's a shitty therapist, though.
Like, he's like, I was reading on little, little Easter eggs.
it's a super small one, but the door knock is actually pre-recorded.
It was the same one they used from X, which had Jenna Ortega in there.
I guess there was like little, little knots to stuff in that.
That's unnecessary.
Yeah.
Interesting.
There's not going to plug a door.
Yeah.
Well, only the super nerds get that one.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I guess they were trying to be clever with it because they, I guess originally they were going to put like an X poster in her dorm room.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, you guys have anything else to cover?
Are you all ready to wrap up?
I'm just...
Well, I think...
What I want the future, so, like, in seven,
what I think would be really cool is if we found out
that Sam actually, like, did orchestrate, like, all of this shit.
Like, they go back from the beginning, like,
she's the one that got Richie to get into it,
and she's the one that kind of egged that whole thing
on and has just been playing
in the background this whole time.
So basically all the internet rumors that were
started are true.
Mm-hmm. Yes. I haven't
heard of any of it. I think you have to go that
direction. That would be rad.
Because it's the only one that makes sense.
Because eventually it's like, all right, how many
of these fucking people are we going to have to kill?
Everybody. Because when she
didn't, look, if she's like
just a survivor, a final girl, she don't need
to fucking tie up, fucking
you know, the cop and dress up
in the whole ass costume and then go crazy on that shit.
I think that's what they were alluding to because why did she have the mask?
Well, she threw it down at the end on the ground.
Yeah, she threw it, but why did she collect it?
She was hiding in the package.
Because it felt good.
She walked away so nice.
Maybe in a red her.
In the movie, she didn't say it felt good.
She said when she killed somebody, it felt right.
Yes.
Oh.
Well, if you're going to kill that, motherfucker, it probably should have felt right.
That seems a little too obvious, though, Brian.
A little too on the nose, man.
But you could do something with her sister helping her out,
because, like I said, her stabbing the one brother in the face and then twisting the knife.
Right.
That's a little too much enjoyment for...
Also true.
And the 0.5 on my 8.5, which still stands firm,
is when both of the ghost face killers look at the camera at the same time
and wipe their fucking knives off.
Yeah.
I saw that.
They never seen that in a screen movie.
They'd never showed both the killers at the same time.
That was interesting.
And it makes it.
Swing!
Yeah.
And the fact that they were like wearing all the masks from all the different movies.
Like that,
like that motherfucker Ritchie had a shitload of money to be able to get all that.
Not only that,
who was making those amazing drawings?
Well, dude.
You wouldn't know that more than anyone.
You're in the fucking geeks.
You could spend thousands, tens of thousands of dollars a week on comic books.
art work
fucking toys
Star Wars
drawn those things
fucking guns
Dewey's death
but he was
I don't know
he was
he died that same night
that Dewey died
he couldn't have
drawn the death
it was a quick sketch
that looks like it
took some time man
gotta take a few liberties
you know
it was cool
I like the
the ghost face museum
that was fucking
so we all enjoyed it
then
me a little less
than the others
but we were
all way above five, so
it's a success.
When you rewatched five,
didn't your enjoyment
go a little bit higher?
Yes, it did.
I think this will happen again
when you...
I'm sure they'll eventually release it on Paramount Plus.
It'll be almost as high as Scream 3.
Well, the part...
Not according to Lance. Lance is up here.
The part of five
that really got me on the rewatch
was that scene with the blonde
kid, the sheriff's
or the, I guess the
sheriff's son, like with all
the fakeouts, like where he moved the refrigerator
door, and then he went into
the bathroom and you thought the killer was going to
be here and that, you know,
he ended up getting through it
but the mom died at the front steps.
I love that scene.
It was great.
All right.
All right.
So we're wrapping up.
Probably talked a little too much about
Cherrick Balls more than we did
screen. That's all right
man. It's all part of the show. So
what's coming up at the geeks, man?
What's on the horizon?
We've got some different things that we're going to be
trying over the next few weeks. We've got some
debating things that we're going to try to bring up.
We're going to kind of try to do like a people's court kind of thing
with some questions to try to change
some things up. I'm going to need some
details on that. That's not amazing.
So that's going to be something.
we're working on. Also, we're having to do our
trailer reviews separately now because we got two strikes on
YouTube, so we're working on getting those out with the show.
Only two strikes? Like in one show or what?
No, no, we've got, we've collected two.
You guys are getting, you guys are getting consistently fucked by
YouTube.
Yeah, well, I mean, we're...
I've noticed that. We're using other people's work to...
Jesus Christ.
But I mean, it's like, there's like, there's like 30 people watching and they're like,
you're down. And it's like, wow.
I mean, but for fuck's sake, dude,
But all you're doing is you're helping promote the movies.
You would think.
You know, they shouldn't be pissed at that.
It's fucking assholes.
But either way, it's leading us to do some other cool things because we can record those separately and pause it and actually watch it and dissect it a little bit better.
But, you know, other than that, business as usual.
But we're going to start recording on 31 Days of Horror Movies any week now because that shit creeps up on you, man.
It does creep up.
September and I'm like, fuck, we have to do like 10 more movies.
Like, you know, so we got to start early.
Yeah, start early, man.
Yep, I hear you, man.
Well, as always, we're going to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror
Returns.
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Next week, we have got coming up.
Do we have a host,
or do we have a guest next week, Brian?
Kind of.
She's not going to be doing the reviews with us,
but she's going to come on to talk about
upcoming projects she has,
and that's Cindy Sinabria.
Very nice.
Very nice.
So, yeah, she's got a couple of interesting projects.
She's going to come, and she might,
There is a possibility she'll join us for the whole episode, but I think it's just to come on to talk about she's got coming.
Well, cool, man.
We'll take what we can get.
So we're going to watch the films of Iran, and what is it, a girl walks home alone at midnight?
Is that what it's called?
Oh, cool.
Oh, a girl walks home alone at night.
That title always throws me off.
It's just at night.
And what's the other movie?
Under the Shadow.
Never heard of it.
You have now.
Let's learn something.
Okay.
Well, this one, this one, unlike Tury Falls, Brian, I promise to watch it.
So we'll see it.
Philip, until the horror returns again.
Good night.
