The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #356: International Horror - Iran: A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night (2014) & Under The Shadow (2016)

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Spring is in the air, and that means the THR gang finally gets to go on the road and do some international traveling! Joined by Cindy Sanabria, we visit Iran this week. Cindy is best known for The Horror Tour Guide and Women of Color in Horror. Cindy also talks about all kinds of new projects she has coming up, including a true crime film and also a slasher! Cool of the Week includes Cocaine Bear, the Funko Pop Convention, Robin Hood Men in Tights, The Elegant Universe, and Spoonful of Sugar. Trailers this week are The Tank and The Resurrection of Charles Manson. The podcast spotlight shines on The Let's Talk Horror Channel. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz    

You're listening to the horror returned podcast. This is Heather Langenkamp from Nightmare on Elm Street. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify goal, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware.

This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right. Welcome back one and all to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance. And with me as I'm all. always we've got our hipster in the took that would be brian what's going on brian what region is took who calls it a took i don't know i thought that fucking texas dude

okay all right beanie how about beanie will beanie work um all right we got philip tonight and uh special guests at least we're part of the show we've got uh cindy sonabria we haven't Talk to you in a while. What's been going on, kiddo? I know. Thank you. Thank you for welcoming back. I've missed you guys.

We miss you. I got a lot to talk about whenever you guys are ready. Yeah. Well, we got to see if I've got anything I wrote down here. Okay, so you were telling me about a couple things you've got with horror able, horror able women, true crime film. kinds of shit. I guess I'll just be quiet.

You tell us what's going on. What's up in your world? Well, the last time I came and spoke with you guys, I was working on a documentary, a full-length documentary film called Hara Abel. And now we've been through some crazy stuff. I lost some editors, had to rehire some editors,

and then we made the creative decision to just partition the film instead of, you know, this big documentary with 20, two people. Okay. We decided to remove six women from that because I realized that I interviewed more women than men.

And so we separated that into an exclusive short, Kohara, Able Women. And some of these, some of them had like poor equality, and I just didn't want, I did, you know, I felt like everybody was important and I didn't want to discard any interviews. So I just gave them kind of like their own platform. and and kind of separated it and kind of mixed up the girls and stuff like that. So it actually came out. All right.

Yeah. So that's my short. It just came out this month. It's in the Film Festival. The Film Fest Network right now. Okay. We just been selected for the Borders Without Docs Film Festival. Docs Without Borders Film Festival.

Okay. There's hockey team more that we're waiting for. Thank you. But, so. So we got this short. Now the feature, they're still working on it, and we should have that between May and June. Thank you for your patience for that. And now I'm embarking on my new stuff, which I'm very excited about. I'm working on a true crime film right now. It's actually the first time I've ever done this. So I try to, I tend to challenge myself as a filmmaker. And I decided to, I came across the story about a serial killer from Florida. And ironically, I live in Florida. So, you know, and I, the victims kind of compelled me to do something for them because there's a lot of cold cases. There's a lot of women that they still haven't found and started pulling on my heartstrings. And you know me, I'm like, I advocate for things that I believe in.

So I was just like, okay, I have to do this now, you know. And it's been, actually I've been working on this for the past year, just research, reading case files, you know, hearing interview. It's disgusting and nauseating and had me crying a few times too because it's very emotional. It's very different. It's very different from horror. I mean, these are the horrors of reality. Yeah.

You know, crime stuff. You're in my zone right now. Right. And then being a woman, which is basically like what he targeted, you know what I mean? And living in Florida, where he targeted these women,

being a woman of color, the kind of women that he preferred, even though he did kill, he killed white women as well, but he preferred, you know, women of color because he figured that they wouldn't, nobody would care about them, right? If they disappeared. And that was like a common pattern with, you know, with these killers too. They would target like, you know, people that came like, you know, that would like maybe drug addicts or prostitutes or whatever. And, you know, there's a history of that, you know, because of the fact that they feel that there's, it would be a lot

easier to get away with that crime. And unfortunately, so to this day, these, you know, some of these women haven't been found. So I'm making it my mission to make this film. And like I said, it's a very emotional piece for me, but I have to do it. And I'm really doing it to help see if, like, you know, create a buzz and hopefully more people will pick up on it. And it'll be like another Dama and before you know, people will be opening up these cold cases again. You know, people will be trying to look for these women again, you know. And so that's that's the hopes of this film. Yeah.

Wow. Did you have an interest in true crime before you started doing this? Yeah, like, yeah, I watched true crime stuff all the time, you know. But it's a, I guess it's a little different when you're like in it in it. I mean, like you're eating, breathing, you know, sleeping, you know, sleeping this, freaking guy, you know, and reliving his fantasies. And, you know, it's just, it's

just very different than just watching a one hour special. You know what I mean? Or even a one hour, you know, even the Dahmer stuff, watching Dahmer, this past one that was done, was really well done, but it got to me, too, because, I mean, he really got

into the heart of the, of the, not just the killer, but the victims. And, and that's where I'm leaning more towards, making it more of the victim's story. And that's kind of where, like, you know, a lot of emotions come from because it's like, it's so sad, you know, and it's so many women that going through these case files, seeing details, these are things that you don't normally see in a true crime film or documentary.

This is more like if you were working in a precinct or a forensic lab, you would be coming across these kind of things. And it's a little more disturbing. It's like it's more harrowing. You know, it's like you're in it. And man. So yeah, I wish me a lot, guys. No kidding. One more question. Going through like all the evidence and the stories and stuff, were you able to just kind of go through it or did it like take a toll on you to where you had to like take a break from it? Yeah, I've been taking multiple breaks from it. That's a good question, though, but yeah. So it started with me just watching his interviews

and then taking a lot of notes and trying to find anything I could find on this killer. And then it went into reaching out to the arresting officers, any detectives that I could find. Oh, wow. Yeah, I actually spoke to one that knew him quite well. And I mean, like the forensics lab knew about this case. And he actually got away with one of the murders here in Florida.

So, yeah. Is he in jail right now? I got the taste file for that. Yeah. And, oh, it's just disgusting stuff, guys. It really is. But I'm trying to make it to a T. So, like, my casting is going to reflect the victims.

So their likeness. So there's a lot of people that, you know, to try to make it as realistic as possible to see if maybe someone along the lines, it'll jolt their memory. Right. Hey, I remember this person from, like, the 80s or, you know, know and um yeah phil philip was asking you is is the guy in jail now at least has he been apprehended he he he was apprehended he he he's already passed oh okay okay well this isn't this is from you know kind of like old and old cases which is why got you know where forensics wasn't really

you know there was evidence was lacking and stuff you know i i believe that DNA actually came into play, I would say, around the 80s, 90s. It's something kind of like new. So just imagine all the people before that, all the victims that are out there around this world. You know, I mean, look at Jack the Ripper. They're still over here with like trying to figure out who did it, right? Yeah. And they don't know.

And that's unfortunately like the case in this and with this story. And yet it has let me, it gets very emotional. It has gotten me very emotional at times where I really did have to separate myself. And I came close to like, am I even the right person to do this? Because I'm a horror filmmaker. It's like, you know, I enjoy gore and blood and goods, but I don't, you know. Oh, man. It's so disturbing when you hear, you know,

when it's real. These women really were, you know, and I'm like following through their death to their last breath. And it's like reenactments of this stuff. So it's, yeah, it's pretty morbid. Like I said, I don't think I'll make another film like this again, but, you know, it took already about a year and a half of my life already. So I'm like, man, listen, I'm doing this. I'm doing it for the big ones. Yeah.

How far along are you? When do you think this is going to be out? And is it for sure going to be a feature? Or do you think this may morph into a miniseries or? No. I don't want to make it a mini series because I don't want to push it out. It totally can. It totally can be, like, totally can be.

be. But I'm just trying to make a feature with as much information that I found on him and on the victims. And I'm actually almost done with the script now. There's someone that's interested that's actually a famous makeup artist, and I can't mention his name. That's okay. Understandable. You guys could guess. But yeah, he's very interested in it, and he's interested in working on the project and if he gets down with it, then then this is going to really take this to another level because I was looking at it at a low budget film but

if he gets involved with it, then it can actually have the potential to go commercial. So I originally I have planned to shoot it in May but due to the fact that it's an overwhelming project I need it more

time so I'm setting it I'm slating it for July. Okay. right around the corner. Yeah, it's not too far, but yeah, but I should be done with the script by the end of this. All right. And you're still doing horror tour guide and all that, right?

Yes, yes. So I'm still doing a horror tour guide. And that's one project that's my challenge of the year. And then I'm working on a slasher film that's more fun. Okay. But I'm looking forward to it. A little light comedy, huh? Huh?

A little light comedy. Yeah, this one. This one actually is going to be, well, yeah, it's kind of like a revenge slasher film. And it's a holiday slasher because I can't tell you guys. And I know you guys do reviews on films all the time, but I can't tell you how frustrated I was this past year when I was trying to binge watch holiday films. You know, Christmas has done better. Christmas, but New Year? My goodness, guys.

I'm like, I barely found any good New Year. year's horror. Tell me, any new year's one. I mean, I found a great, decent one. When I find out,

I'll let you know. Yeah, right? New Feas. It's seen every holiday movie known to man. Yeah, most of our horror,

though. Right, right. So I think end of days was one of the, one of the ones that I could say, okay, that was around

New Year's Eve or whatever. And there was one other one that I had seen, and I can't even remember that. Like New Year's Evil? That was shit. Have you seen that film? Oh, my goodness, and the fake bands, I could not.

When the band started going up on set and they were like, oh, yeah, oh, it was so horrible. It was watching, like, really bad, like bad music videos. I don't know, like, this is horrible. And it was like, like, the horror in it was like slim to none. It was just, yeah. So I'm like, I'm going to do something about this. So I decided that's actually what motivated me to make the film. So yeah.

And that script is actually already done. Nice. And we're launching a, actually I'm launching a crowd funder for that one this week. And we're going to, and that one's set to be slated in June. Okay. I'm doing all my shooting this summer like back to back. So it's going to be a busy summer for me. That's good.

Yeah. But, oh, and there's going to be some surprises in the true crime one. I wanted to mention it because I really want to, like, start putting the word out. And so that way when it starts surfacing, you guys were, like, you know, up on it and stuff. And just basically, like, looking to, I don't know, I don't know, like, kind of. kind of lean in the, like, this is going to include some, some old screen queens. Like, I've already been talking to some people. I've, I've actually already cat.

The funny thing is that the films, the script's not done yet, but I've already cast it, like a couple of the roles in the film. So I already have a serial killer. It looks just like him, by the way. And then I have a younger version of him that looks just like him. Oh, creepy. Creepy. Yeah, it's really creepy stuff.

Yikes. Are you guys? Is it like a dramatization? completely redone the story or is it like a mixture of you know real people that were there and dramatization stuff well and what's the title it's not a documentary okay okay so it would be more like okay i guess uh you could say it would be more kind of like um how uh what's it renal who was the guy that did the Dahmer?

So he showed the perspective of both. So it's going to be kind of like a reenactment kind of like. Like a docudrama? Yeah, but... Not as much time. He got to be careful what you say too. Reenactment documentary.

What's the... No, it's not a documentary. It's kind of like... It's going to be reenactments, obviously, of the actual crimes. You know, the dramatization of the actual... Okay. And, you know, and you'll get to know, I mean, you'll see the serial killer.

I can't tell you too much. Okay. That's cool. But as we're already starting to get into, you'll definitely know more as we're, like, in, you're further into the production. Okay. So you're going to keep in touch with Brian then and make sure we get all the Facebook groups and fuck. What else? What else are we into, Brian, besides Facebook?

What's the name of it? What should we look out for? Huh? What's the name of it? What should we look out for? Okay, so I can't tell you the name. No. Philifes all those questions, Brian.

Yeah, these are all these, like, hidden goodies. But the reason why I see the name of it because it's actually named after him. Yes. And I don't want to give away who the person is. Absolutely. Look, we'll put it out when you send us the info. Yes, yeah. Send me all that.

Send me all the info on the links and I'll get it posted. This is like a real mind. Like this is going to blow your mind. I promise you. Which is why this. So I was going to do the special effects makeup myself. You know, I do effects work. I do prosthetics and stuff like that.

Yeah, you've told us about that before. Right. But like there's things in this, like the way he kills his victims and stuff. I needed, I need it like guidance. So I reached out to a lot of, like, I would say about 10 of the biggest makeup artists in Hollywood, right? That I know personally, like, you know, that I've talked to the past or whatever. And the funny thing is that I would say almost every one of them was perplexed on how to execute this particular effect that I want. And they were like, are you kidding me?

Like, some of them to the point, like, like, Stewart, the guy that did, um, He has bits and rubber, battle of bits and rubber. Like, are you familiar with that podcast? It's like a special effects makeup project. He interviews everybody from like Rick Baker or whatever. We'll look for that. We'll look for that because we do a podcast spotlight every week. So we'll give him a shout out.

Yeah, and he's great. He's worked, I could probably even connect you if you ever want him on the show. He's worked on, he's from the UK and he's worked on everything from like, I believe, like, he worked on Blades who, like he did the effects on that. I believe he did something on Brian Stoker's Dracula. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, he's worked on a lot. I'm talking about these are really like big, big, like special effects makeup artist.

But he was the most perplexed because he was like, I could see why you would reach out of me because I know that it was well. Right. But he was like, hell of the fuck. He was like, let me know how you find out. And I mean, I went through different avenues. I even went through forensics labs where they like, you know, where they custom make masks for like, like CIA agents and all kind of shit. I mean, like, I have really been doing a lot of crazy research.

Custom, wait, hang on. Custom make masks for CIA, like fucking Mission Impossible? Yeah, yeah, you know, like, like, you know the, like the CIA, FBI. You seen Mission Impossible, right? When everybody's holding up their faces. Right, right. So they, you know, there's sometimes, you know, it's a little bit of special effects makeup, but sometimes it's actually forensic people

that do these projects, you know? That's fucking wild that blew my mind. This is very cool. Learn something new every day. This is going to be a first, like there's something that I'm doing in this film that has never been done. And it's kind of creepy,

but I'll tell you once I do it. Okay, fair enough. But it has to do with the victims, and that's what's so perplexing about this whole thing, and that's why some of the effects makeup artists we're just like, I don't, like, you got me on this. And some of them tried to take a shot. And then eventually it went down the pipeline and somebody got in touch with me and was

say, hey, such and such told me, you know, to reach out to you. And when I told him everything, he was like, who is this guy? And I was like, I don't really want to tell you. He's like, I want to work on this film. And I was like, you do? Okay, this is the guy. He was like, fuck out of it. I mean, it blew him.

It blew his mind. So, yeah, so I'm like, hey, if he's interested in it, that alone is. you know, is exciting for me. So yeah, I'm totally down with this. So it's all depending on how big the budget is and, okay, it might come down to me just doing the work, but it's all good. It's going to be done either way. Yeah. Any acting from you in any of these projects? No, not in these two, but there is a, there's a, I'm doing a proof of concept, it's going to be like a short. One I could talk is, well, okay, so I have mentioned the, you know, the holiday one, right?

Yeah. That one I'm actually going to be in. Nice. Are you going to be the first victim? I was so embarrassed even saying that you even knew what I'm about to do. It's like, oh, my God. Like, I still have to kind of mentally brace myself for that. And I'm like trying to figure out I'm going to do certain things without being like,

but man, get on camera up. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's like, it's a, because it's, you know, It's a woman that's being tortured, you know, so, but not tortured, like, I guess, how you would think. I know I speak in riddle. Wow. Yeah. I don't know what that means, but I'm okay.

It's not what you're thinking, Phil. Okay, this is a horror movie that's about human trafficking, but with a twist. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. With, you know, a horror element to it. And I'll just, yeah.

So not fun torture. Like, one of the roles is just. I was thinking, you know what, I might be able to pull that off, but maybe I should. Maybe I should. I don't really want to show my legs on camera, though. Like, you know, it's that kind of thing. Oh, come on. I'm no one always behind a camera.

Right. It's a different world, isn't it? You get the body double in there. And I do know how to act, you know. I have acted, but, you know. So it's a first for me, but, you know, I'm sorry. Hold on for a second. I'm trying to, uh, sorry, someone's calling me in.

I turned this off. Okay. It happens. All right. Okay, sorry. I got that out the way. I'm back. Okay.

Sorry about that, guys. But yeah, so there's some good stuff coming from me this, this. And you'll be learning about one of them this week anyway. So I'm funding for, I might as well tell you the name. It's called New Year Nightmare. And like I said, it's a horror story about, you know, how these are. girls get into a situation that kind of involves human trafficking and

but there is definitely a horror element to it so kind of original. Sounds like a very original idea. I'm the original OG baby. Okay. I try. I try. But this is a short film that I'm making because we actually have

interests for a feature but I guess they want to see if I know what I could do. So I'm going to be launching this crowd funder this week. And okay, we'll put it out there. Thanks. And then, yeah, and as soon as, you know, that film should be done,

hopefully it should be out by the end of this year. And then hopefully I'll be able to solicit the funds to make the feature. Because I actually, I'm going to, like, private investor route for the feature film. But I am doing a crowdfunding round for the short. So, yeah. All right. Well, look, we appreciate all the knowledge. We'll put the links up.

Before you check out, we're going to, you know, of course, ask where everybody can find you, but you know what we do around here first, Cindy? It's a little thing called Cool of the Week. Yes, I'm waiting for me one. Is yours New Year's evil or what's your cool of the week?

You're funny. Okay. No, actually, I would have to say my Cool of the Week was Cocaine Bear. I went to see it. Yeah, I seen it this week. It was good. I enjoyed it. You heard that, Lance?

I heard it. Oh, I heard it. You know, and it was unexpected because in the beginning, I'm like, I was like at the theater and I was, I mean, I really thought that it was going to be like this, like, like action-packed hilarious film from beginning to end. And in the beginning, I wasn't really laughing. I was just like, okay, this is like not funny.

And, you know, but slowly but surely as the film works, you know, as you work into the film, I mean, there was really funny moments in this. And it, you know, it was good. It was a, they are very well put together film, different characters. And just, just like a hilariously wild ride with a cocaine bear. But yeah. Yeah. That was a cast in that one.

Yeah. Have you guys seen it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Lance didn't like it. Oh, Lance didn't like it? Yeah, I didn't care. I didn't care for it.

I needed a little bit more cocaine bear. You was waiting for more, right? It was kind of like, it wasn't what I expected. Like, I expected something a little more funnier, but I did enjoy, you know, some of the parts and it was kind of funny. And I do like some of the kills, too, I must admit, some of the kills were funny. Yeah, no doubt about that. There was a great sequence that I'd almost give a 10 on 10, but one sequence does not a movie make, Brian. Right.

Right. Nor did the truth. Cocaine off the lid. Oh, that was hilarious. That was actually one of the best kills actually one of the best kills in the film. And I love that like that state trooper lady. She was so funny. The Paramedics.

He's a comic. What's his name, T.J. Miller? I believe his name is the paramedic. Was that T.J. Miller? Was that him? I think that's, yeah, the IKEA guy, right? The guy that talks about, like, he does like his stand-up about Ikea. He's like a comedian.

That's him. He was the paramedic guy. He played the paramedic. I was mad because I was. Yeah, we were trying to figure out who everybody was in it. Oh, I could run down. See, that one I could have sat in and just chat it with you about cocaine. Right.

That one was good. But yeah, so that's my cool of the week. Nice. And I'll say that. You're in the majority. You're in the majority for sure. And my event cool of the week was a funco popcon today. I went.

Oh, cool. I met the lady that does a voice for Ash Ketchum, Pokemon. Okay. I know it's un-harrar-related, but everything I bought at this event was horror. So I got me a zombie, Captain America, big fun copop. I got some really good deals. I got some old-ass toys from, like, the 80s, like Freddy Kruger and Predator. I got some good shit.

Very nice. Yeah, I'm happy with my little toy grab. But thank you so much. guys. You need to talk to, you need to talk to Nez about that. He's, he's getting into Funko Pops a little bit more, thanks to Theo, I think. What's his collection up to now? Brian, do you know?

Whatever, whatever fills his house. Oh, he sounds like my best friend is like that. He can't stop buying. Yeah, it happens. All right. Black Christmas paraphernalia. All right. You're going to stick around, Cindy?

Or you get it? I know you get a lot going on. Yeah, I got to make moose. I love you guys so much. Thank you for having me on the podcast. Tell everybody where they can find you. Oh, yes. I dropped all my links to Lance earlier,

but I'll just let you know that I'm on IG. And there's more links. I'm sorry. So I have Hara Abel Dock, which promotes the on IG. I have Women of Color and Hara. one and Haratura Guide and that's on IG and then on Facebook I'm the Harrah Tour Guide women of color and Hara ABLE and blessing films yeah and the list goes on. Yeah, IG and Facebook is where you'll find the most of our juiciness and then of course you can

follow us on Haraturagide.com and women of color and hara and haraqarra.com. I may be making a website for the true crime film but that's up in the air as of yet. I'll know more by next month once the script is done and everything like that but yeah I will definitely keep you guys posted on that. If anybody's in

Florida and wants to do a cameo in the film let me know you know. Haller, haller, you'll be in true camera. Never know. We might find ourselves in Florida one day. Yeah, let's do it. We'll do a horror returns film. Oh my God, how cool is that? Yes.

As long as you can get cocaine bear there, we're good. Okay, you got it. I'm going to have a guest. We're going to need a budget because we've already got a cast. Oh, perfect. Okay. You got your dream cast already for this film? Yeah, we talked about it a couple episodes ago.

Yeah, somebody made us a poster. I'll share it in the... Totally. I want to see it. Oh, you know about the Crankool now, right? And the Math Gator. You guys heard about those. Yeah, I've heard that.

Yeah. There's crackoon. And I do know the filmmaker that's making it, but I forgot his name. Oh, yeah. Promoting it on his. And I just grabbed the poster and just promoted it in my group. I was like, what the fuck?

You know, and then the, okay, so it was cocaine bear, Cracoon. Look at the shit up right now. I heard that's a math catator. Cracoon is the latest out of the drug animals, you know, compilation, saga, whatever. continue. And here's the funny thing. I had written a film about, I mean, I had written a script about a animal, but in the, in the film he does drugs, but he's not a drug addict. Like,

it's not about an animal that does drugs. It's just about an animal that's like a human, it's a, it's a horror comedy. And I did it for Lloyd because he keeps bothering me about making a script. He was like, Sidney, when are you going to write a script for me for trauma? So I think that I'm, I'm actually going to do it. it, but I'm waiting for this wave of crack animals to just get it. So it doesn't look like I'm copying. Well, I could wait probably about another year or two, but then I'll be embarking on that one. And that one you guys are going to like.

Okay, cool. Yeah. All right. Thanks for stopping by. We appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it.

See you later. We'll be looking out for it. Thank you. Thank you, all right. Take care. Bye you. And I don't know who's going to go next after that. We have a problem.

I'll jump in with the story because, uh, well, not much of a story. Have a chocolate lab that definitely ate some drugs at some point. No. I don't know what he ate. He got into somebody's trash and he came back wobbling all over the fucking place until he puked and then he was fine. Ah, okay. Okay. We didn't have a cocaine bear incident, did we?

No, no, no. He was pretty cool. He's our special dog. He's like, he's like cocaine bear normally. And then when he ate the drugs, he chilled out a little bit. so it's downished. There you go.

But my cool of the week is not exactly horror related, but Robin Hood Men in Tights. Oh, classic.

Had to show the kiddos some Millbrook stuff, man, you know? Dave Chappelle as a chew. Yes. And my favorite line in that movie,

I don't know why, but it sticks with me is when he's like, hey, Blankin. And he's like, did you say A. Blinking?

I said, no, I didn't say A Blinking. I said, hey, blinking. And it's right before the big guy falls in the creek and is like, help, help, I can't swim, I'm drowning. Right. Have you, if you guys checked out any of the history of the World Part 2 yet? No. I've been waiting to see or hear anybody say something about it.

I haven't heard of all. Okay. It just seems like a project that was done way too. far after the original. Yeah, it's like, there's no winning in this situation. I don't know why you would do that. It worked for Ghostbusters. Well, yeah, but Mel Brooks, he came out and said, you can't.

You can't do comedy like you used to do back in the day, so. Ah, okay. Well. I don't know how much he was really involved in the project. Yeah. Bill Brooks has got to also be like 107 years old, right? He's up there. I was surprised to learn that he wasn't dead yet, to be honest.

I mean, no disrespect. I love Mel Brooks. It is what it is. Yeah. But I was like, holy shit, he's still alive? Yeah. You do get that feeling when he pops up in the trailer for the movie. He's like, oh, shit, it's Mel Brooks.

It's been a while. He's up and around. All right. Brian. I got like four movies, so if you want to go. I'll throw mine out there real quick, because I haven't been watching a whole lot of movies this week, but I got into a book.

Maybe it's better if I describe this book to you based on what the Amazon review says. This is called The Elegant Universe, written by Brian Green, nonfiction book. Have you guys heard of it? Brian Green, the guy from 90210? No, the physicist. Okay, so this is a lot of it.

called the elegant universe, Super Strings, Hidden Dimensions, and the quest for the ultimate theory. Fuck, yeah. So, yeah, this is some heavy fucking reading, guys. But what's so cool about it is he kind of

takes you through the history of modern science, like starts off with Isaac Newton discovering gravity with the famous apple falling from the tree. And then he takes you through Einstein's theory of relativity and you know, how scientists build on

the works of prior scientists and stuff like that. And now we're getting really, now we're starting to dive deep into like nanotechnology, subatomic particles. Like at one time, like, I don't know about you guys, but when I was in like grade school, they thought the atom and the parts in the atom, the proton, neutron, and the electron were like the smallest thing. Obviously not so. There's like entire universes inside each of those.

And then I'm sure inside each of those, there's entire universes. And I would imagine it going the other direction. It works the same way. So I don't know, man. This stuff fascinates me. The street theory fascinates me. Quantum physics, I don't understand it, but I at least want to, you know,

read about it and try to wrap my head around it. I'll just go watch Quantumania. You know what? I will have this book finished by the time it comes to Disney Plus, which is where I'm going to be watching. I think it's supposed to be out about two weeks, isn't it? Yeah, I think they said the theatrical to streaming windows of, I think they said 45 days now. Yeah, I think that Wakanda forever, they gave it a little bit longer because it had something.

I think unless it's something like Avatar, which is making millions of dollars, they'll keep it longer. But Ant Man was quite the flop in the theater. Well, that's too bad, man. especially since we got a whole new batch of Disney. I heard, too, that they were going to cut back on the content, like on Disney Plus and stuff like that to save money. I think they realized less is more, so we don't need like five Marvel movies

and seven Marvel TV shows a year. Yeah, I think that's fair enough. Don't kill us. Don't walking dead us, right? So hopefully with the original shit. hopefully with the less content they'll put more focus in on whatever the upcoming thing is instead of the upcoming five projects I'm just excited we've got another super villain finally on the way so uh it's been a lot I mean ever since thanos nobody's really been that and intimidating wouldn't you guys agree I mean compared to

Thanos and it kind of looks like our our new villain here is going to be is going to be right up there so I'm kind of looking forward to that arc. From what I'm hearing, according to the Loki show, there is a lot of him. All right. Well, here we go. Just give me Dr. Doom. That's all I wanted

was a good Dr. Doom, not the Fantastic Four movies that came out. Well, you're going to have Dr. Doom. You're going to have to have a Fantastic Four. Well, but I think he means a good Fantastic Four, not that fucking trite. We've gotten up to this

point. Well, which means they're going to have to try that one again. Yeah. Right. All right. So anyway, Brian, you got more stuff? Yeah, I got, I've been sick the last couple days. So I didn't, actually, it was kind of a little bit of a blessing because I didn't have nothing for Cool of the Week. So when I got sick, I was kind of in bed, so they gave me time to watch some stuff. Let's start with my not Cool of the Week. Uh-oh. 203's house party oh no

I've heard nothing good I've heard nothing good now it's it's not badly made it's not badly acted it just does the one thing a comedy cannot do and that's not be funny it's just not funny

and it's not like a like an age thing for me either like I get all the references I get all the cameos it's just not funny. And then they redo scenes from the original movie. Oh, no. And it doesn't hit the same. Like,

they do the dance routine from the original house party, and it's just you're trying to redo the same thing, beat for beat, and it's just not hit the same. And then they had this whole because the plot of the movie basically, these two guys, they work for

a cleaning company. Of course, they need to make money. So insert blank idea for whatever. You can put it in any reason why they needed to make money, and it doesn't matter. But they need to make money. They find out the house they're cleaning is LeBron James's house, so they figured they have the keys, so. Oh, boy. That sounds like a fantastic not end up in jail at the end of the night idea. Exactly. I mean, they have his contact book, so they have all his famous contacts. You think this

would just be a hilarious comedy. I think what they missed the mark, this should have been like a raunchy comedy. Oh, it was really light, huh? It was, I don't, I don't even know what it was rated.

It might have been PG-13. So don't expect it to be followed up by a remake of the Pajama Jam. No. Okay. And just, anybody who even knows what the words House Party means is way older than 13.

And just things, they could have played with, like at the end when LeBron comes and he catches everybody there. The guy's like, don't call the police. I challenge you one-on-one in basketball. Oh, no. Now, you think the guy would be able to take LeBron and it would be funny that this little guy is just kind of schooling LeBron. But no, it's just basically LeBron blocks his first shot and it's just.

It's over. Yeah. It was probably written that way originally in the script and LeBron was like, no, I'm not doing that. Yeah. He is a producer on it. So after that, I went to Shudder. I checked out a couple movies. I went to the screen box, checked out one.

The Screenbox one is a movie called Signal 100. It's a Japanese movie. Okay. Very in line with Battle Royale. It takes place in a high school. Okay. And these kids get this group of, it's a whole class full of kids. They get hypnotized into.

committing suicide. Oh, my God. And basically, there's 100 signals that sets it off. Basically, if you talk back to the teacher, or if you try to commit violence on somebody,

it'll set off a signal. And the kid will kill themselves. Uh-huh. And it just reminded me of battle royale, because eventually you got some group of kids trying to figure out, because they only get half the signals. They have to figure out the other 50.

Mm-hmm. And you got the other, you got a group of kids that's trying to coerce students into doing these signals to kill themselves because the lone survivor at the end gets to live. So it's kind of like kids going after kids. And it's different than battle royale because they can't run up and kill the other kid. You have to get them to do something, one of the signals. So not quite like hunger games either then. Yeah. Okay.

A lot of good. It sounds kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds interesting. There is a couple of CGI deaths that are really, really bad. Really CGI. But I think the concept is good enough.

It's worth enough for someone to check it out. Cool. That one's on Screenbox. What was the next one? This one, you can skip. Neil Marshall's the Lair. The Lair. Yeah.

Neil Marshall hasn't done much lately, has he. No, whatever. I can't even remember that one we did that we didn't really care for. The witch or whatever. Yeah, this one's not a good follow-up either. British pilot. She gets shot down in Afghanistan. She uncoveres, like, she's running from, like, the Taliban or something.

How do I watch that? Where she finds the bunker. That says, like, Phillips Cup of the Sea. Yeah, she finds the bunker, and there's, like, a creature in there. and then she gets picked up by American-ish soldiers. I don't know if they're American. Because a lot of them have accents. That's probably Phillips platoon.

And she's trying to warn them that there's a creature that got awoken in the bunker because it looks like an old Russian test facility that they were doing experiments. And, of course, nobody listens, and they get attacked by the creatures. And it's not. It sounds like it would be awesome. but it was kind of boring. Yeah, like it had a cool premise and set up. I remember watching that.

I cannot tell you how it ended. I don't remember that part. Oh, that's not a good sign. But the setup to it seemed to be pretty cool. It was just, it was super fucking cheesy. Yeah, and the main girl from the previous Neil Marshall movie, Lance, is the British pilot. And I don't quite buy her as an action star.

Yeah. Oh, that's not good. It was like there was a point in. time where they were showing her and I was wondering if it was like, I was like, is this a CGI movie like Love Death and Robots? Really? There was some. It was something weird going on.

Like I thought it was going to be cool. I thought it was going to be cool because at first the creature seemed practical. Like guys, it's, you know, makeup and scenes and stuff. But then there would be these effects because I'm not going to tell you what, because I don't even understand what they were trying to do to people. But there was these effects that were really bad CGI. Yeah. Yeah, those Yeah, I know what's not.

And I, Phil, I know what you're talking about. There was some camera shots that I'm just like, is this real? Is this really happening? Or is this like an animated sequence going on? It was weird. Clearly that military base wasn't really in the desert. Well, yeah. When they did the far shots. But I guess my cool is the world.

week will be another shutter film called a spoon full of sugar. Oh, okay. This one I've actually heard of. Take a dysfunctional family that hires a babysitter that clearly has some issues and add not a little bit, but a lot of LSD in there. Oh, wow. Very interesting. Okay. Yeah, that's interesting.

I'll just leave it at that. That one's on shutter, spoon full of sugar. All right. It's on the list for sure. Is that a 20-23 movie? I think it came out this year. Okay. Neither came out at the very end of last year or early this year. All right. We can count it toward our 20-2020 watches, right? Yeah, so if you're on shutter, watch Spoonful of Sugar, skip the layer.

Neil Marshall, you're better than that. Yeah. Not lately. All right, well, that brings us to horror headlines brought to you by Brian. Take it away, man. Okay, there was some headlines I posted today. Talked a lot about Eli Ross Thanksgiving movie. It's officially begun filming, so hopefully we'll have a decent Thanksgiving horror movie this year.

Not many comments. Not a lot of hope, we'll see. knock at the cabin is coming to peacock streaming on March 24th so if anybody hasn't gotten a chance to watch it and you have peacock which makes sense because I believe they're owned by the people that don't like us playing music

ah and we'll keep it at that well you keep going up the ladder and like all of media is owned by like two people so yeah right exactly the two guys that are sitting up watching the Muppet show right in the balcony. Yeah.

I'm sure we'll soon start getting emails with the Mickey Mouse here is at the very top of the email. Neither of that or an apple. Of course. Stop doing something.

Yes. Let's see. It follows filmmaker David Robert Mitchell. He's making as of yet untitled mystery film with Anne Hathaway that has dinosaurs in.

it. What the fuck? Okay. 65 part two already or what? I still once. Anything other than it follows? He did a film with Andrew Garfield that I have not seen.

I forgot what it's called. I think it was one of those. Was it the Broadway? No, it was like an elevated horror movie, I think. What? I don't know what that is. Somebody's yelling it right now. Yeah, somebody's yelling at it, and I'm good.

Y'all go ahead. We can't hear you when you guys yell. Yes, we can. Keep yelling. Oh, I probably should have started off with this in the very beginning. We lost another great actor, Lance Reddick, passed away at the age of 60. Yeah.

At the age of 60? Yeah, way too young, man. That's too early. Yeah, I don't think they released the cause of death, but I think they're saying it was just natural causes. natural causes is 60? I mean, I don't know

because I follow him on Instagram and that guy really seemed to enjoy life his family and he has a lot of dogs and he loves his dogs and posts like every day

with his dog. So it's just kind of like, you know, getting ready for the upcoming John Wick film because I'm just hearing nothing but amazing things about it. Like the reviews are coming out. It's like they're saying it's like the best in the franchise.

It's three hours long. I know that. I had to buy an early ticket. Is it really? Yeah. Yeah. The, it's like at like a 903% of Rotten Tomatoes.

Wow. Okay. Yeah, they're just, and these, I don't know if these reviews are just really trying to hype it up saying it's like the best, not only the best in the franchise, but the best action movie and one of the best action movies in the, past five years. Oh, I don't have to do a lot to get better than John Wick, too. Yeah, this is strong, man.

We'll see. Yeah. I mean, you got Donnie Yannon there. Yeah. I'm interested to see Pennywise what he's going to do as the villain. Well, because I never pictured him as the villain of a John Wick movie. Well, you'll get to see it in living killer in a week. They get killed quick.

But rest in peace. Lance Reddick. Yes, indeed. Let's see. Guillermo del Toro is doing a Frankenstein movie for Netflix. Is it going to be stop motion? Like to I think it's live action from what I understand and

With Jeff Daniel Phillips as the It stars Somebody you were just Googling, Lance Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield is Frankenstein? Mia Goss. That may be Oh, and Oscar Isaac.

Under the Silver Lake, sorry. That was a good movie. Yeah. So. Oscar Isaac. Frankenstein movie done by Guillermo del Toro with Andrew Garfield, Mia Gauth, and Oscar Isaac. Okay. Sounds like you can't go wrong with that cast.

Well, better than Jeff Daniel Phillips and Sherry, Sherry Moonsop. You like that movie. although I did watch 31 again oh I love 31 I did like the monsters man it was fun I was about to say I don't cover up the monsters you know what 31 can almost be my cool of the week because I rewatched that the other night that is a fun movie but it's all richard break man oh yeah it's all since you just recently watched it I watched it not too long ago does it take place on Halloween yes definitely yeah they make it real obvious that it's Halloween and apparently they do it every year why is there like an inconsistency

you notice? I think there was and I was just like something happened I was just like so what fucking days is this happened on? You saw Fourth of July fireworks in the background

when they were out Are we like it now Are we in November now? What's going on? Let's see I'm sure you guys are familiar with the faces of death movie back of the day

well they're trying to turn them into actual movie What? Yeah. For the plot? Yes. Wait.

I don't know that I ever watched it. Was it real? I watched all of them. They were panned off as real deaths, but then it later was revealed that it was actors doing... Reenactment of real things.

Okay. And of course, they had the chill monkey brain scene, remember where they had the... Everybody would hit the monkey brain scene. head with a hammer. That's where they would get you because I think some of the animal stuff was real and then there was like real autopsy footage. Sure.

But like the actual guy on Safari gets attacked by line was not really happening. I think, Brian, I think the most infamous one was the dude that parachuted into the alligator farm. Yeah, yeah. And they

debunked that one pretty quickly. Oops, missed. Well, they're turning it I don't know what the plot's going to be, but so far they got starring in a movie is Doc Ray Montgomery. He played Billy in Stranger Things. Okay. And Barbie Ferreira. I know she was in the land or Philip, you've seen Euphoria, right?

Yeah. Well, a few episodes, yeah. The bigger girl, the kind of that was doing the webcam stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah. her and Billy from Stranger Things are going to be the

the main leads in it. I was... Don't know what it's going to be about. I thought you were going to say Dave Chappelle for a minute. I thought surely this is going to be a comedy. Dave Chappelle doesn't have to do anything right now. Just roll around in his money.

Yeah. All those stand-up specials, man. Just fucking cement your legacy as the best stand-up comic of all time. But hey, boy, Boy, did Chris Wright make an ass out of Will Smith? That was a pretty good one. I didn't mention that as cool of the week.

I don't know. I kind of felt a certain way about it. Did you? I kind of felt like why. Did he go too far? No. Just kind of like, if it was, I mean, if me personally, I don't have a stand-up career to make money off of. I would have said something when it happened.

Right. Well, but if he had a joke that he was using. and, like, had a year to hone that in, I feel like it should have been funnier at the end, and probably a little more sticking the knife in, you know? But it's fuck Will Smith. That's why. Come on now.

Hey, he fucked up. He did fucking. I'm not going to say, it's really not his fault. I'm not going to say fuck Will Smith, but fuck his wife yeah yes oh shit everybody else has to tinge aha that's that's really where it came from will smith got twisted by jada pinkett i've seen so many interview this not like the will smith's podcast but i've seen so many interviews where i kind of felt like not only her but like his kids i'm like does your family like you yeah i'm just they're all fucking

weird, man. Your kids are grown now. Let him go do whatever the fuck. Divorce your wife. Restart your career. I feel bad for the guy. I heard he's supposed to be doing another bad boys movie. That's where you can re-jumpstart your career right there. Just put out like a badass funny action movie with Martin Barnes. Yeah. Listen, as much as I was totally opposed to what happened that night, I would absolutely go watch another Will Smith.

Oh. I'd meet him to have some sort of redemption because Yeah. Who doesn't love Will Smith? Yeah, I mean, and I'm kind of with you, Phil. I don't condone what he did, but at the same time, I'm just like, a man only gets pushed so far. He only has to hear so much shit before he snaps. Yes, that wasn't Chris Rock's fault. But he was the, that could have been any other comedian up there.

Yeah. He would have got slapped. I know, but Chris Rock. Could have been. Number one, don't go slap one of the greatest. stand-up comics of all time and not expect some sort of retribution. You had that shit coming.

Something tells me if it was the rock up there that said that there wouldn't have been a slap. I would have, I would have respected Will Smith and he slapped the rock. But the rock's right. He's too clean cut to be talking about something like anyway.

True. That guy knows what business he's in. Yeah. Last, we got off the rails. Last new story I'm going to talk about. Chris Rock got his day, man. I'm happy about that.

All right. Keep on. Last new story is not a big surprise after the success of Smile. Parker Finn is signed a first look deal with Paramount Pictures. And, of course, what's the first project? Smile 2. Is that the name of it? Smile 2?

Right now. Okay. Working title. Working title. I'll just want some of a little. Congratulations to him. You know, this whole smile thing started off a short film that grew up. That's right. That's right.

So, congrats to him. Just hope he's not a one-hit wonder. Yeah, we're going to find out. And that's the news. All right. Trailer park time, Philip. Let's take a little trip. All right.

the big the small and sometimes the very very weird Brian what do we got give me one second because I forgot what trail is I sent you guys I'll watch them no I already watched them I promise the first one is called the tank the tank let's hope it doesn't tank

right let's see a, uh, 2, 23 horror thriller after a mysterious inheritance and after mysteriously inheriting abandoned coastal property,

Ben and his family accidentally unleash an ancient, long, dormant creature. Oh, yeah. That's what that is. Okay. This stars Lucian Bukman,

Matt Whalen. No disrespect, but I don't know any of the other people. I'm trying to cut this short, directed and written by Scott Walker. I'll go first. I'm kind of in on this. I love a good creature feature. I like the mystery of...

I hope there's mystery to where this inheritance came from. Sure. Not only a mystery of that, but the mystery of what's in this little bunker thing, this tank. Mm-hmm. Well, because what we get from the trailer is, like, they... They, somebody dies, they inherit this coastal property, and there's some kind of water tank with something. Yeah, it's quite large piece of property, too. Yeah.

It would have to be. They seem to not really, they seem shocked that they've even gotten this inheritance. Right. I hope the, this and whatever the creature thing, I hope that's kind of linked. Yeah. Well, and so it implies in the trailer, at least, that they have already got an offer on this property before they start to investigate weird shit, like climbing into the water tank. Well, that's what you do, right? No.

This mysterious. Why would you do that? Deep, dark water tank that you can't see and you climb into it one by one. sure why not When we moved into our house I wasn't like hey what's this big ass concrete cover? Well I was and they were like that's a septic tank and I was like oh okay

cool you didn't crawl in there I wasn't like I need to remove the lid and see what the fuck is in there you crawl and hold that's what you do like new house mysterious cross space to the attic you crawl up there with no flashlight they they went and checked out this

property already had an offer on it and was like, let me climb into this deep, dank little hole and see what's going on. Spoilers. Go. Spoilers. They might be doing the Justin Long Barbarian thing. Oh, maybe. With the tape measure.

Misdirection. With the tape measure. Ah, okay. There you go. They're like, oh, we have this mysterious bunkers. Let's see how deep it goes. So, I mean, maybe the movie's different than that. But that seems to be like, there was,

there was a Denzel movie that fucking drove me crazy. It's one of them where he, I know he's got like three of them where he's wearing a Hawaiian shirt the whole time, but it's one of those. Okay. Okay. And it was like... I got one in my head right now. A situation, I can't remember the name of it,

but it was a situation, and I can't remember exactly what happened, but I remember it was a situation where I was like, you know, if you just told this guy that thing, then the movie would be over. What are you doing? Is it? Out of time?

I think that's the one. Is that the one? Okay. I think it was out of time. That's the first one with a Hawaiian shirt that pops in my head. Yeah. And this sort of seems like this to me because that whole concept killed the movie for me. I was like, dude, you could stop this right now.

All you have to do is talk to this dude and tell him what happened. Instead, here we are. And so this sort of seems like that kind of. a movie. And now that you're saying it, it might be that kind of movie. I'm like, man, you made your own stupid bed lying

it. I just, I hope for a really good mystery and an awesome looking creature. Yeah, hopefully. Is it a sea creature or is it an alien? I'm going sea creature because I feel like the trailer, when they saw how big

their property was, they, they seem to focus on the shoreline. Yes. That might be misdirection, though, you know? Or both knows these days. April 25th. Okay. Not too far from now.

And the last trailer we're going to talk about. Actually, I just found out it came out this weekend on VOD. Oh. And that's the resurrection of Charles Manson, starring one Frank Grillo and directed by his son Remy Grillo.

The resurrection of Charles Manson by the U.S. government. Oy, yoy. You know that's how he got there, right? No, let us know. Yeah, fell us in, man. I thought he got blown away with fire or something like that.

Oh, that was one of his Oh, followers. Okay. He was part of MK Ultra. Was he really? Yeah, they fucking dose this shit out of him.

No. Got him to go recruit other people to get dosed, which is how he got his entire following. Come on. Oh, you're fucking with us, dude. No, I'm not joking. Is that how it started?

Yeah. he's got connections to the guy that shot Oswald. Okay. He's got connections to him who was also involved in a lot of other MK Ultra stuff. It gets fucking weird. The layers and layers and layers of weird.

And then you involved the Beach Boys. Yeah. Right. There was something with the Beach Boys in there somewhere. I don't know. Yeah. Didn't he say that stole some of his music or something? I think that's what he said. I'm not too familiar with that. I haven't read the book.

I just know the album. Chaos, though. Man. And have you guys ever watched the curse film series on Shutter when they talked about Rosemary's Baby? I haven't. Yeah, I haven't seen that. Stuff with him is connected with that movie, too, and the people on the cast.

Yeah, it's insane. Huh. But the resurrection of Charles Manson. Yeah, he got, like, arrested, like, 23 times. and kept getting let out. Like, the government had tabs on this dude the entire time. Yeah. Just saying.

Outside of the cast for this one, the only one I recognize is Jamie King. Oh, yes. We all know Jamie King. The hot sister from Joe Dirk. That's right. Joe D.R. Excuse me, that's D.

Joe Deerte. Joe Deerte. What are you guys thinking about this? when you're excited to see it? I wouldn't say excited, but I am interested. I want to see is Frank Grillo

the resurrection of Charles Manson? Is he trying to bring back to Manson family? He's got to be like the detective. He always plays the detective. Well, I'm thinking his son's directing. He went to his dad saying,

can you do this for me? And Frank was probably like, they always make me play the good guy. Let me play the bad guy. That's possible. Sure. Sure. And that's one of the kind of points I want to see this

because you never really see Frank play anything outside of the bad guy. Okay. I could see that. He's like a, what was he in the purge? Like a Secret Service guy. Yes, that's right. Warrior, he was an MMA coach slash motivational. speaker whenever the guy needed it.

Right. And this one, he's playing possibly the resurrection of Charles Manson. Which, to be... I like Frank. I like Frank Grillo, so I check it out to see him. I'll check it out for Frank Grillo, but if you could resurrect anyone in the world, isn't this like one of the worst ideas ever of someone to fucking resurrect? I mean, the way the movies playing...

What the fuck are they thinking? The way the movie's playing in my mind is maybe when he was younger, he was like part of the family. Okay. And he kind of kept on with his beliefs or something and somehow he's formed some new family. He finds his DNA and clones him or what? I don't think they're actually resurrecting Charles Manson. Well, maybe it's like an Antichrist scenario.

Yeah, yeah. He has to be resurrected like Jesus to... Interesting. fulfill the prophecy or whatever. I don't know. pretty lame dudes I'm kind of buying Phillips I kind of want to see that movie

and then they got to stop the end of the world classic and I'm interested to see what kind of a job his son does because I think this is his directorial debut and it looks well made so did uh did his son ever show up like in kingdom or anything like that like is his son

acted before do you do you guys know I am looking it up. Because, I mean, you know, from one grillo to another, right? Looks like the only thing he's been in is a short film, but he's worked as a cinematographer before on different films. Okay. All right. Seems like he's done a lot of stuff behind the camera. I need somebody to make, like, some grill cleaners or something called grillopads

and get them to be the spokespeople for it. I know that's a dumb joke. Yikes. You haven't been to Frank Willow's website? Oh, man. You haven't been to Frank Grillo's website? No, does he have grillo pads? No, but he should.

Oh, man, I wish he did. I'd buy those at a second. All right, the resurrection of Charles Manson, like I said, is out right now. All right. Headlines. Headlines. It's not headlines. Listen and repeat that.

Yeah. Well, what little bit I had time to gather. It's been a busy week. I had a grandson and a nephew here all week. Well, that's correct me. Thank you for setting me on the right path, Brian. This week we're going to shine the spot. I almost misled you on the wrong path because we just did headlines.

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It was from Tim Davis regarding the March Madness episode. He said, great episode, guys. The correct film? All right. so yeah um the correct film one is that what he said i i actually feel good about this year's winner yeah i don't hate it for once it wasn't darts vader remember that tuck godly we got so much shit for that they're like somebody i think i was one and nominated him too i'm somebody they was like really greatest horror villain

just greatest villain period he's than any of the horror villains. I know we got a lot of shit for the bride of Frankenstein winning Gregus Fork sequel ever. That is a good one, though. Now, come on. But if you got out, evil did too. Aliens. Yeah.

We can't help what people judge. I mean, you know. Well, every time we do one of these episodes, it gets into this stupid semantic argument about, does this meetness? Dude, which one's a better movie? Yeah, because I have to admit, when I was doing the panel for the last one, some of them I was kind of on the, like, is it actually elevated horror than other ones? I was just, oh, fuck it. I'm going to go with the movie I liked more.

Right. Fair enough. I think I think it went well. I think Get Out deserved because, like, I think I said it. I'll take that. Like, Get Out was, if you Google elevated horror, it's like probably the top three or four. It had to be. either that one or hereditary, right?

I say something in there, yeah. Hereditary, get out, or the witch. I would have been fine with either one of us. But get out and meditary, I think, are better movies than the witch, and I think that they definitely are one and two in that category. And her eyes are too far apart. Yeah. All right.

So that's it for listener feedback this week. Of course, thank you. Steve Carlton from the geeks for all of our new logos and being up the show and all that good stuff. Check out some great stuff. We'll be seeing Steve real soon here. He asked for it. It's coming. It's coming. No. The retrospective of what? Children of the corn. Oh, all right. That'll be fun.

Can't we just watch the Star Trek episode, Merey, instead? It's not that fucking Japanese animation thing we did. What was that that had like a million episodes? Oh god, that was like a nightmare. We're never doing that again. So you say. No. I make this in a week.

I was so, I felt delirious. That was it. My sister was mad at me for that podcast because that's her favorite Japanese animation thing and she's real interested. I almost felt high watching that show. like I didn't have no concept of time or anything. The episodes just kept going and going.

That should be a good thing, though, right? No, it's not like a good high. It's like you kind of don't know where you are and you're scared. Like, when is this going to end? It was like being in a little solitary confinement cell and you're like, when it's just going to be over, I can't do it anymore. And then people got mad when I said the movie was better than the show. It was.

At least it was shorter. Mostly because we watched a two-hour movie, so, like, how bad can that be? Right. Like, 46-hour fucking DVD. And Willem Defoe look like the demon. Yeah, right. Great casting.

Jesus Christ. Anyway, there's our defense. Memories. But on to our featured attractions. This time we're going to visit Iran very carefully. I thought you were going to that. Iran. I ran so far away.

No, I've got a friend of the family is from Iran. And they had to stop going back once their kids turned like 16. Yeah, they were going to like stick them in the military or whatever. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Can't have that. Well, we'll talk about some of that stuff in the next movie. But Israel does the same thing, I think.

Can't be avoided. Anyway, the first one is a girl walks home alone at night. A highly touted classic, do you say, from 2014. In the Iranian ghost town, Bad City. It didn't seem that bad. Yeah. A place that reeks of death and loneliness. Nothing but dead bodies and ditches, Brian,

and fucking oil derricks everywhere and power plants. You don't think that's a bad place to live. It was being sarcastic. It looked like fucking suburbia to me. You shit. The area he got lost in, look like the suburban. But I don't know if it's in the,

sorry to interrupt you. I don't know if it's in the, no, it's not in the trivia, but I believe it was filmed in California. Ah, of course. Well, that makes sense. There you go. Really? Anyway, a place that wreaks of death and loneliness, the townspeople are unaware that they are being stalked by a lonesome vampire with a taste for 80s music. I love it.

Great description. One me over. Director and writer is on a. Lily Amirpour. Yep. Also known for the Bad Batch and the upcoming remake of Clifhanger. That's going to be a trip.

Are you going to make a remake of the Clifanger? You're not going to put the Stallone in it? And I think she did that movie I talked about a couple weeks ago. Yeah? What was it? The one with the girl that gets out of the mental place and she has like buying powers? Yeah, you mentioned.

Something about that. I can't remember the name. Mona Lisa and the Blenmoon. That's right. That's right. I've got to look for that one now. Okay. It's on Lulubel. You got it. All right.

Cool. Director Anna Lilly, Amirpur, who bears a somewhat similar resemblance to Sheila Vand, the girl in the movie, actually performed the skateboarding sequences in the film for the long shots. Amirpour is a lifelong skateboarder. ladies just gets better and better 80s music skateboarding filmmaker she doing tricks and shit she's just riding down the road on a skateboard

wasn't she yeah but it it looked a little natural for somebody just discovering what a skateboard is yeah um the tattoo on saide's scalp reads jakeh uh or persian for pimp which is not a huge surprise that is what he was supposed to be right I assume so drug dealer pamp name it you know fucking scum of the earth

well he had the track suit would know Russian gangstrap would be is what he looked like John Wick villain is what he looks like He's got the track suit and everything I think in the the trivia

Do you guys know that South African group Die Antward or whatever Yes yes I think he was supposed to be based off of the domain guy in that group. Oh. No kidding.

Okay. Interesting. So not Henry Rollins, huh? No. For black flag. Okay. Henry Rollins never had a sweet mullet like this guy. Right.

He just had a buzz cut. We're dancing and out of some techno. Unza. Right. Unza. That is not what I thought he was going to put on. I think he did more cocaine than cocaine bear. Definitely

Linz, what do you think about A girl walks home alone at night? Fucking masterpiece, man. It's not very often that I see a movie that's in black and white that I like this much. Because I mean, you know, just the fact that it's in black and white doesn't necessarily detract from the film.

But with, I think the photography that they were able to pull off using simply black and white film this movie grabbed me from the very beginning when you kind of had the it's kind of weird it was almost like a cultural mashup type thing because you've got like the 50s greaser looking guy that looks like he came right yeah like Danny

from Greece or something like that he's got the cigarette and the fucking wife beater shirt and that just awesome sweet car right that you know we find out that that our that our pimp it takes away from him later but

just heartbreaking man when you see him come home he finds that cat brings the cat home with him it's like obviously there's something wrong with this guy something's missing in his life he's lonely so he you know finds a cat and brings it on that also shows he's pure of heart i would i would say i think that you kind of symbolically did you not well i yeah but i think that i don't know i just got he looked like he specifically went to a specific place to get that cat yeah like he He stole that cat from somebody's yard. Well, he was probably saving the cat from an abusive relationship. I thought the cat was for his father.

Wasn't the cat for his father? Well, I think he was trying to do. Well, that was part of it, the way his father took advantage of him. That was the heartbreaking part because he comes home and his dad's a junkie. And he's stuck in the middle because it's like he's, it's kind of hard. Like, you know, when you're family members of a junkie, it's kind of hard not to do things for even though you know you shouldn't be. Well, and he sounded a little lupy on top of that.

Yeah, definitely a little loopie. Maybe he went through one of the wars or something like that. No, I think it had something to do with the passing of his wife. Yeah, because he did keep looking at the pictures of his recently lost wife. But I'm sure he had a habit to begin with and just like went downhill from there. But obviously this kid is like stuck in the middle, you know, and then he means. meets this young lady that is very mysterious, which is kind of cool. And it's like, yeah, it's almost like she's not afraid of anything.

And you can kind of tell she has no fear. In fact, she's almost like emotionless in parts. And I think the actress did a really, really good job pulling that off. I think, you know, was the pimp character to the dealer? Was he a little bit over the top? Yeah, he kind of was. But I think that added to the overall ambiance of the movie. I think it was kind of cool having a, as we would call him, like a John Wick villain or an Austin Powers villain.

I felt like he was over the top to the point where it was to make us not like him even more. Right. Oh, sure. Absolutely. Yeah. And I mean, you know, of course, it's like so many of those classic vampire stories where they're, you know, like interview of the vampire stuff, right? where we're only trying to kill the evil people, you know, and the people that haven't coming, so to speak, or whatever.

But, and they didn't go, I don't think they went too overboard with showing that she was a vampire. I think it was kind of clever the way that he dressed up as Dracula. And he's like, I'm Dracula, you know, and then she's like, I love that one scene when she's getting so close to him and you know she wants to bite him, but she doesn't. I think that was a really, a really well-done scene. I think he's obviously drugged out of his fucking gourd. You're talking about where he hugs her?

Yes. I think because, yeah, I see what you're saying about her wanting to because it's right there, but the fact that she probably had never been embraced like that by anybody. Yeah. Or at least, I mean, we don't know how old she is. It's probably been quite a while since. Yeah, very hard to tell, right? How does that work?

As a vampire, if you drink someone, somebody's blood who's on some sort of trippy shit the next minute you're dancing to techno well she must have an awful lot of cocaine I was not say she must have been

high as a kite off that guy then huh if that's the case she would have been fucking floating well the guy that dressed as a vampire that she didn't kill he was like I don't know what he took but he was staring it wasn't at ecstasy or mom didn't they say, Brian?

I think the text, not text, the time period, it probably would have been ecstasy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because I was,

I don't know, I didn't see the dub version. I saw the subtitle version. I think it's ecstasy on it. But yeah, I haven't seen a movie that was filmed this beautifully in a while. And again,

going back to the look of the city, like, what were all those people dead bodies being thrown in that in that valley for that that was really weird and then you've got like I said like I said like oil derricks literally fucking everywhere which is I guess it's kind of a nod to the middle east right Philip I mean don't don't they have pretty much fucking have oil derricks and oil wells everywhere that's why we're there in fact didn't they set a bunch of on fire during the Iraq war or something like that when Bush senior was in oh I don't know desert storm yeah

I think, purposely allegedly, said a bunch on fire. But if it was, it was to protect our own fucking. We're not burning once in ours. Federal dollar asset, yeah. Well, this was, look, at its core, I think that this was a, this was a beautiful love story of two people that were, like, trapped in different scenarios, but like no escape type scenarios. And not a very nice place to live. Very, very cold, very industrial. and, you know, somehow they're able to find love.

So I loved it. I really did. Enjoyed it a lot. Okay. Brian, what do you think? This doesn't happen a lot, but I 100% agree with Lance. What? This is, it's not,

the movie is not what I expected. I didn't think I was going to get super involved with, at the core of it, a fucking love story, I love story drama. I thought it was beautifully shot. The story was well told, well acted. I loved everything about them. They just called her the girl.

I loved everything about it. You didn't, nobody said vampire outside of that guy saying, I'm Dracula. I didn't even catch that. Nobody said vampire. They didn't feel the need to beat us over the head with it. We know what the fuck were watching. Yes, right. It obviously was.

Right. I love the music in it. I felt like the music. Oh, great soundtrack. I felt like it helped in telling the story. There was great shots, some slow motion shots in there, just beautifully made. Trying to not say the same things you said, Lance. Another fun fact, the director was in the movie.

She was the girl with the skeleton paint at the party. Oh Was she the one that was tripping on the ecstasy? I think so. And also the one of the skateboarding. They probably really were. They probably really were tripping. And I kind of wonder, I want to know, if somebody knows, let us know, does the director have like some sort of musical background? Because not only with the soundtrack, but like the girl, if you guys notice, like, her posters on the wall, she had like the BGs, Michael Jackson.

Yes. Yes. I think Madonna Prince I think Prince is up there somewhere Very very very 80s centric movie

Yeah Yeah yeah yeah And they used it They used it well I sort of feel like it would be like If Quentin Tarantino Was from Iran Oh

Yeah there was a lot of Tarantino vibe And directed clerks I wouldn't be surprised If this is not a movie that he wouldn't recommend to somebody. Yeah. Yeah?

I feel like this is right up his alley, and I see this could be, he could have been like a big influence on her filmmaking career. Wow. Oh, I'm sure. No feet, though. Yeah, well, I don't remember seeing. Well, no, there were feet.

Remember the guy that was the junkie was inserting the needle between his toes? That don't count. Okay. Yeah, but they didn't have like a weird. Token foot fetish scene. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Why is Margo Ravi's feet in the screen again?

Yeah. It's like, man, her feet are really fucking dirty. What are we doing? You know, Quinn's like sitting in a director's chair just like rubbing his hands. Oh, the dirty or the better. Oh, yeah. Make up. Make up.

Right in the center of the screen. Put them up there. All right. But it doesn't make sense, Quinn. It doesn't matter. Hey, he's the filmmaker. He's the filmmaker. But I thought it was just a beautifully told story.

And I actually, I think that black and white kind of enhanced it for me. I do too. Yeah. Cinematography and everything. So, yeah. Didn't mean to put you off. Very clean. Oh, no.

Very clean. Looking, too. Very clean looking shots, I would say. Yeah. I think it was a very like, uh, art house-ish, I guess. Like, it had some really fucking amazing visuals going on. Like, the girl with the cloak and the covered face cruised down on a skateboard or whatever, or just slowly walking behind somebody or like, it looked great.

The whole thing looked amazing. Or slightly floating in the air. And real quick, they didn't need to, like, hit you over, like, with stuff explaining things. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. They didn't need to overly explain that. I got to. fact that she only kills bad people.

Yeah. Yeah. Like the whole scene with the little boy when she was like, are you a good boy? And he was like, yeah. And then she got up in his face and showed her fangs. It was like, tell me the truth. Well, I mean, that was, that he was good for the rest of his life. She's like, you better be good or I'm

going to eat you. They didn't Christopher Nolan us with explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain. But it definitely was a slow And I really did enjoy the musical scenes, but it was different than most movies that you watch. It was like, they would play the whole fucking song. And like at the beginning of the scene, when they start the song, the two characters are this far apart.

And then at the end of it, they're here. And that's what happened in that five minutes. You know And so They went a little bit for the long ball on that one Which was different, but I kind of enjoyed it Is it a movie I'm going to watch on a regular basis? No.

But I did enjoy it for what it was And I understand the acclaim that it got. I may not rate it personally quite as high as most people did. but just because it was kind of long and drawn out and it took a while to get to the point because it wasn't really just a it wasn't really a horror movie right there were some horror aspects

but it wasn't really a horror movie it was a romantic drama yeah visuals were iconic level and they were really good so did some good did some bad I'll take it and this director's doing cliffhanger That's crazy.

That is going to be insane. I know, that's weird. I can't wait. I need to look it up. Is there somebody starring in that movie already? It's got to be Stallone. It's got to be Stallone, man, right? Hey, doing some cliff hang.

It's coming back as the grandpa. That was a bad Stallone. I'm sorry about that. There's this thing as a bad. Bad Stallone. Come on, man. Hey, yo. I've heard a lot more bad Arnold's, though, than bad

Stallone. Oh, I definitely do a bad Arnold. They do a drunk salon. That works. Just slow the voice down. Yo, that guy on Instagram, fuck, I can't remember. Shut the fuck up.

My doppelganger is doing cliffhanger. What? Moa? Yes. No. That's going to be great.

This motherfucker's about to get sued. He wasn't in the match, right? He was in the back patch. Wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense that she would be able to get Mammaa.

All right. Scores. As long as a studio. Well, as long as a studio doesn't yank that away from her, that's going to be a great movie. Okay. This one's a nine on ten. This is

close to a 10 as you can get. This was this was gorgeously shot, wonderfully acted, very surreal. The visuals were phenomenal. Just the way they sold you on the way that the city was so industrial and hopeless.

The time warp type type stuff, as I call it, like the 1950s greaser and the 1950s car, and then the 1980s music, you know, and then everything against a modern background is just gorgeous. So yeah, one of those rare very, very rare 9 on 10s

that I'll give out. There's a Lance movie. I understand it. Brian, what do you think? Not to agree with Lance, nine out of 10. I enjoyed it a lot. I love the characters. We talked a lot about the girl, the guy,

the main guy. Yeah. We didn't have to get beat over the head that he was a fucking good guy because I'll bring up the scene, the scene where he's doing I mean, he did steal the girl's earrings. And the cat. But the fact that he felt uncomfortable working in her room without her parents knowing. Oh, yeah, he could have gotten it right then and there, huh?

And I mean, he did give the earrings to the girl. So I guess it turned it to a good thing. I'm going to go. Oh, seven. Oh, geez. That's decent. Oh, yeah. No, it's still definitely a good movie.

I feel bad that I'm not giving it as high, and I want to give it another chance. But this is like the third second time. I've tried to watch this movie, and I had to watch it this time, and so I watched it. Yes. And it gets better as it goes, but the first couple of times I tried to watch it because I heard such great things about it. Well, I remember loving it the first time, but not this much. Let me put it to you that way. It just, it gets off to such a slow fucking start.

Yeah. And it's all subtitled and it's like, man, this turns into kind of a chore. But good movie, good movie. I think there was some, some aspects there of greatness. Right? I don't see the movie as greatness, but there were definitely some aspects. Some of the shots. Well, well said. Well said.

All right. Let's move on to Under the Shadow from 2016. As a mother and daughter struggle to cope with the terrors of the post-revolution war-torn Tehran of the 1980s, a mysterious evil being haunts their, begins to haunt their home. Director and writer is Babak Anvari, also known for Wounds and I Came, by. Booms sucks. Oh, really? It has a star

is, what's his name? A real life cannibal guy, Army Hammer. Oh, what? He's good. Yeah, and part of all of his situations with women.

One of the text messages, he wanted to eat them and drink their blood or something. Oh. I know there's a dude from CNN who ate some of these brains because he was like interviewing some cannibals and fucked him up

I think I mean I don't want to believe it but I kind of do I think you get a certain fame and fortune that you just get into weird shit yeah I probably would avoid eating brains

though that's how you get like fucking preon diseases and shit sorry Lance we got there's nothing to do with the movie but anyway official submission of the United Kingdom for best foreign language film category in the 89th Academy Awards in 2017

at 11, 10 seconds when Shade is on the terrace the damaged part of the building on the right side resembles a human skull. No. I didn't know that. I believe you won't go back and check, but that is interesting.

Interesting. And I think he skipped over, included among the 1001 movies you must see before you die. Oh, yeah. Edited by Steven Schneider. A thousand and one movies you must see before you die. I don't know. Does this not make that list? You ain't going to tell me what I need to watch for.

I die. Motherfucker? This America. I'm free. I guess I'll start it off. Okay. I think this one, compared to the first one, I think this did a better job of showing you

what these people go through and what they live with on a daily basis. Because this was constant just the little sirens that go off and they would have to go to the bunker. The women would have to be covered up all the time, or you couldn't even let nobody know you had a fucking VCR and you work out to your little Jane Fonda workout tapes or they'd take it away.

I think this did a better job in doing that. Lance, I think this is the one you were talking about when you said this is the slow burn more than you would have liked it. You're on mute, Lance. You're on mute, buddy. No, there we go. There we go. I love slow burn movies, Brian. Come on, dude. You know, I'm the slow-go-down. At first, I was kind of taken out by the slowness of it. But then as things started to unravel, the whole thing with the gin and the stuff happening with the daughter, I kind of started taking it a different way that maybe there is no gin that this lady's losing it. You know, there was certain. aspects of the movie that like the whole movie they're trying to find this doll because

the lady explained that the gin will take something personal that you love and keep it. That's how they keep the track. Ah, okay. And then later you find it in the drawer where she keeps stuff. Right. All torn up and then she was like, why did you take it

mom? And the mother's like, I didn't take it. And then she was like, don't lie to me. And she's like, I could have taken it, but I don't, but I'm sure that I didn't. And I'm like, are you sure? Because there's... And she did seem kind of resentful towards the daughter the whole time.

Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't have that motherly instinct. I'm not, I'm not saying that there was no gin in this movie, but there's just a lot of a lot of this movie that maybe the effects of what's going on around her, the stresses. Yeah. And then you got to add it on. Then you got to earlier in the movie where she's, uh, she can't.

can't get into medical school, or she can't get back into medical school because certain beliefs that she backed before. Political activism in the past? Certain political beliefs wouldn't allow her to get back in the medical school. So it just kind of seemed like there was a lot of aspects of this where maybe somebody saying that there's a gin kind of put something in her head that created this whole scenario. Maybe. But the kid was supposedly mute, so how could he have said there was a gym? I know kids that don't talk to their parents. Okay.

And then you got the scene where, you know, maybe it was the daughter. Maybe it was the daughter doing things because you get to see where she's talking to somebody and she said, oh, it's on top of the bookcase. Right. They weren't talking about the doll because what was on top of the bookcase. The key to her mom's special lock drawer was on top of the bookcase. So I don't know. There was just a lot of aspects to go and go with. And I like the explanation of the gin in this movie because I'm sure you guys typically have seen movies where gins are basically like genies and they'd grant you wishes.

Sure, like Aladdin. Yeah, but in this movie... 10,000 years of longing. This movie, they're just demons that come to fuck with you. And I like the explanation when that missile came. Oh, yeah. How did gin fly in on the breezes of sorrow and agony and despair and fear? I have a possible theory about that missile,

but I'm going to wait until we get to the end of my... It makes more sense that the gin is a demon than a genie. although I've heard it more as a genie but obviously the gene as more of an evil entity Yeah well I'm I haven't read it but the lady that first mentions the gin

She says it's in the Quran And the way she spoke about it was like they were They were demons not They're not here to grant you wishes But I I thought it was super slow in the beginning But as it ramped up I enjoyed it more

and I felt like it did a better job of placing you in Iran in the situations that were going. And I just, I don't know, I still don't know how to feel about where the story went because at one point I did think it had to do with a gin, but then there was certain aspects of the story where I'm just, is this lady losing her mind? Like, that final time they went to the bunker? Yeah. And she thought she heard her daughter upstairs and just kicked the other girl.

And then when she came back down, the little girl was like, why did you do that to me? Yeah. It kind of was like, okay, is this movie playing with me? Did she not really hear anything? So I really enjoyed that aspect of it. And it ended up, I don't know if it's something I need to watch before I die. Well, mission accomplished. So you've only got 1,000 more to go, Brian.

I'm not mad that I watched it. Yeah. One down a thousand to go. One more thing. I think I would have liked it better if it was subtitled. Because sometimes the dub kind of took me out. I saw this one subtitled also. I watched this one on Netflix and it was dubbed.

And I let it be dubbed because it's easier for me to follow along because I'm not always there. And you can multitask and do other things around the house. Sure. I get it. but I pretty much agree with everything that you said and I like that insight that maybe this was her descent into madness instead of a Jen actually being there or whatever because the daughter never talked about a Jen. She was just missing her thing and like missing her dolly. Her little dolly. The mother's in the room.

The mother just seemed to, even the fact that the husband had to go away, which was fucked up. Yeah. They sent him away to do his medical stuff. Basically, go be a doctor on the front lines, so you can't be a doctor anymore. Yeah. The fact that they sent him away and he wanted them to go to his parents' house and she just wouldn't budge. Couldn't leave the house. There was just so many things that you're just putting more stress on top of yourself.

and how are you going to manage and it just seemed like a complete breakdown. Yeah, like our home is more important or whatever than like we're not going to be cowards and leave our home or whatever. There's fucking bombs coming in. Go somewhere else so that you can live. Yeah, the house is a house.

It seemed ridiculous to me. Yeah. And then obviously at the end of it, like I don't think she was even actually talking to her husband. He might have been fucking dead for all we know. I don't know. Okay. I hadn't thought of it that way.

Yeah. But it did take a while to get going. It wasn't so much a horror movie at the beginning of it. It was maybe longer than it should have been. But then, like, once the horror stuff did come in, it was pretty good. Yeah, there was some, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, it was pretty creepy, you know. There was some creepy moments like when she thought she saw,

When she woke up and there was an old man like standing at a bedroom door. Yeah. And she ran and chased him. And it was creepy how he like kind of sucked back up into the crack and the ceiling. Right. Yeah. They had some pretty decent effects. Um, pretty good horror tropes going on.

Um, I liked the, uh, the gin and the fucking blanket that was flying around the room or whatever the hell of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I, I, I, I, I think that worked well. it was something different. And I think that they pulled it off, man.

I think this movie says a lot. And especially when you start to think about Brian, what you said, where maybe it wasn't a gin after all, maybe it was just this lady losing her mind. Yeah, it just... That makes it even that much cooler. It just makes it...

I just get that feeling just... Yeah, there's just so much... Just so much that this lady and her family are dealing with. And then somebody says, the word gin and you know how your mind could start playing off of that especially when you're kind of losing it and stuff but for a lot of stressed out yeah because like she was up her daughter's ass not like normal mom stuff but like right but that but that's a good point you brought up earlier it did it really did seem like she almost resented her daughter at times yeah yeah

and that's what I was saying like she didn't have that motherly instinct like and then father was a burden more than... And then the father would say, take it to my parents so she can see her grandma. And then she would kind of freak out and be like, are you trying to say, I can't take care of my own kid, you know. Yeah. He's like, not saying you can't take care of your own kid. You're a crazy bitch.

Gotcha. Should have seen that beforehand. Lance, what did you think? I definitely got the... some of the political things that they were saying in this movie. And of course, you know, it was set during that time. I guess it said the Iran-Irek war was, what, 80 to 89? Like one of the longest.

It's not really a civil war, but it's almost a civil war, right? It's like if we went to war with Canada, right, or Mexico or something like that. Or Russia goes to war with Ukraine. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely. Sure, good, good, good way to put it. I definitely noticed the fact that, of course, you know, she's sitting there, you know, having to be very quiet and reserved and, of course, being forced to wear the headdress, as the women are. You get a good example of that when she gets scared and grabs her daughter and runs out the house.

In the middle of the fucking night. And they get stopped by the police instead of what's wrong. They're like, they see her without her headdress. And like, what do they say? What do you think this is her? Yeah. Okay. They did, so, yeah, so they did a good job with that in the movie. They, they did a good job of showing, like you, like you guys were saying, you know, the husband is a doctor. You know, obviously he's allowed to dress how he wants. He's got a nice suit on and stuff like that. Obviously, he doesn't have to cover his head. So that's just a lot of like the inequality between men and women in that particular society. And we won't go any further in my political views on that. So let's just keep this a non-political, podcast, but it was, you know, pretty obvious too, though, that he was getting, he was getting fucked over too, because he got sent to the, you know, the front lines, as it were, right?

I don't think it's too inflammatory to say that, hey, women shouldn't have to wear shit on their head. You know what? I'll agree. I think that's, yeah, I think that should be a basic human right, right? Anywhere. Well, I mean, if it's their religious thing and that's what they want to do, that's a different thing.

But, yeah. That's kind of where you run into trouble. Because it kind of is, I think. Or it's been warped to be that way. But anyway, let's move on. Okay, so the movie itself, Brian, again, I love a good slow burn, dude. You know that more than anybody else on this podcast, I love a good slow burn. But, brothers, I do not love a no burn.

And for me, this piece of shit movie was a fucking no burn. I am glad you guys got a lot out of it. All I remember seeing was just a lady, 35 minutes of looking for a fucking doll inside of a house. Now, I do have, honestly, seriously, guys, I was very bored by this one. I'm sure it all went over my head.

I'm sure there was a lot. Maybe I wasn't focused on this movie the way I should have been. I'm sure there was a lot more that was being said in this than I picked up on. and I was just watching a lady getting mad at her daughter and looking for a fucking doll for 35 minutes. And then at the end, you've got a big fucking flowing,

you know, robe that's a quote unquote gin or whatever that you never even really fucking see anything. Because what if it wasn't real? There was the thing with the teeth under the bed. Okay, so let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, guys. Is it possible that when that missile struck the building,

you know, because she wouldn't leave, she wouldn't leave, she wouldn't leave, she stayed there. They all died. That's my theory, maybe. Because there was a shot at the end of the movie that made me kind of feel that way, right? Because the missile landed and they like pulled it out and stuff, but then at the end, didn't, didn't the building look different? Like it had more rubble or something? I don't know.

It's kind of like Allison Borderlands. Is it? I don't know if you guys ever finished watching that. Uh-uh. On Netflix. It's a series. Two seasons. Got a similar storyline?

Pretty good fucking show. Probably better than this one. I hate to say it. If your theory's true, then it kind of makes this a little bit better movie than what you're saying. It very well could, but it bored the hell out of me. So, you know, I'm glad you guys got a lot more out of it than I did.

I definitely picked up on the political stuff. It was, is it an important film? Yeah, probably so. Because it says a lot of things. And like you said, the fear, just the absolutely fear. Political stuff. I'd said a few political things.

But just, yeah, all right. So, right, to Brian's point, I don't, I don't have something as basic as a television and the VC or taken away from you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's too political. I just think it, it paints a perfect picture of that time period for them to be there. Yes, it's a war-torn.

They weren't taking it away from her because she's a woman. They were going to take it away from her because they're fucking rich. That's what rich people look like. everywhere else in the world, welcome to America where everyone is rich. You and I who think we're fucking broke as hell are rich compared to the rest of the

world. Great point. There's that. I don't own a VCR. You got a blueberry player? I got two. The geek's all on VCRs, man. They're still collected VHSs. And they can't get away. They keep getting pulled back in. You know how much

what VHS are going for now? I'm sure a lot, man. Like vinyl records, right? Yeah, you can get like a, I don't know, like an original Friday the 13th still wrapped in plastic VHS. You're talking hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

Sure. Yeah, no doubt. Like collecting comic books or something. How many of those are left? Not many. It's quite a few on eBay, but if it's on eBay, that's ridiculous. That's not original plastic. I was going to say there is because I used to work in retail for a record store,

and there is this thing that would allow you to like, it's just like, like, it's like a heating gun that allows you to re-shrink wrap shit. So I'm not going to believe that. Good tip. Always look for if they still have, like, old, like, the store price stickers still stuck on them. Ah, great. Yeah, yeah. Great pro tip, man. Great pro tip.

This movie bored the hell out of me, guys. I'm not going to lie. It really did. This one caught me more than a girl walks home alone. I'm glad to hear that. See, this is why we do the show. Yeah. This is what makes it fun.

I thought we do this show to make money. Oh, yeah, right. Sure. I had to force myself to pay attention to that movie. This one's mostly kept my attention. I agree with Philip. I think to me it was her just descent into, I mean, I want to say madness, you know, because at the end of the movie,

I wasn't just quite sure if this wasn't all created in our head or not. My theory is that the bomb exploded when it landed. They were all trapped there. They couldn't go anywhere because they were ghosts. That would make more sense. But anyway. Why did everybody else? It's like purgatory.

I don't know. Listen, you look at like the Koran and the fucking Bhagavagata Gita. Like the Bible. and right all that stuff is so similar very similar

eerily similar I know anyway there's that oh me oh scores yeah yeah yeah

I think it was Brian I didn't like it as much I think I think the dubbing took it out I do matter of fact I'm not even going to say

oh you can't do that dude yeah I didn't say anything because that was that was a Netflix choice that wasn't the film's choice. I didn't score it off dubbing.

I liked it. Normally it's better. It's more... Yeah. It packs more of a punch when it's not dubbed and you're just looking at the subtitles because then you get more of the emotion instead of the fake shit. Are the really, really bad dubbing that you get sometimes?

Alice Lordlands, again, was another thing of that. The cinematography wasn't as good as the first movie. Okay. the acting was fine for the most part of the main actress I have seen that show I brought up

before Gangs of London Well she is She is gorgeous I'll give you that She is a gorgeous woman Oh She's in gangs of London And she's she's pretty ruthless on that show Kind of different character

She plays compared to this Might have to check that out You got AMC Plus Yep that I do The story I think is what really kind of grabbed me. It took a while for it to get gone, but once it got gone, I started coming up with my own theories in my

head on what was real and what was not. And I think I'm going to have to give this a seven. Oh, good score, man. Good score. Does it belong on a list? Of the 1001? Yeah. I don't know. I think it is. I think for... There's a lot of movies

out there, man. I think you kind of said it right, Lance, for what the movie was portraying and what it was trying to I think it is a very important movie, and I do recommend people watching it. For that, yeah, this is an easy seven. But if I'm going to pick a thousand movies,

this is not going to be on them. If I picked a thousand movies, there's going to be some stupid shit on our list. Well, you know, we know the thing. We know the thing is going to be on there, Brian. But I think a thousand movies runs out real fucking quick when you're putting like all of,

of the movies that you watch in all time, you know what I mean? Sure. Like Robin Hood, Men in Tights. History of the World Part 1. Actually, every fucking Mel Brooks movie ever. Every Melbrook's movie has to be on there, for sure. I know you're thinking, Brian.

I'm trying to think. Is there one that shouldn't, but I can't think of a boner there toward the end, like his very final one. I can't remember. I don't even remember what it was called, but it wasn't that great. I don't even know. Anyway, I can't even think.

Moving on. But is this movie on there? No, probably not. Maybe. It wasn't bad. I think I'm going to give it a 7-2, actually. I think it was a good movie. It definitely held my attention.

It was worth watching. I'm not going to, you know, say anything negative about it, really. There definitely was a lot of slow moments, like they could have shortened this movie up about half an hour. or so, and I think it would have been great. But they didn't do that. Some of the subtitles were, not subtitles. The dubbing was maybe a little cheesy.

They haven't fucking mastered that shit yet. You know what I mean? That's what I was going to say, but I can't hold it against the movie, but there was times, it's like, okay, I get it. You're not going to 100% match up the lips. they're speaking different languages. Well, you don't have to. But can you get someone that I would think sounds like that person?

Right. The problem is, like, you're finding just, oh, hey, you speak this language and that language. Okay, you're hired to do this movie. And they're like, huh? I mean, this is not like a bad, this is not like a bad 80s action movie that I expect the dumbing to be bad. You know, this is a serious... Steven Seagal. executive decision i think i incorrectly said that he died at the beginning of air force one it was executive

decision because we just started yeah when he's trying to look at the little two between planes and his little character like yeah yeah i for some reason he's in a movie for 10 minutes for the longest time i get those two movies mixed up anyway and lance you know who was in charge after Seagal? Who's that? John Leguizamo. John Leguizamo. Hopefully he did better than Seagal. At least he didn't defect to Russia.

He didn't die. From Spawn fame. O'i. But a terrible clown character, right? That's a great character. Yeah. Bad movie. All right, Lance.

What did you think? Oh, man. Now, be fair. Be fair. No, I'm going to be super fair, dude. But I am sticking by my comment. This is probably going to be the two furthest apart scores of any two movies we've seen in the same podcast. Well, wait a minute.

What was the movie that we saw along with two, Jennifer, or whatever? Did we give that one a decent score, didn't we? Oh, the unseen. The original missing, wasn't it? Oh, unseen. I don't even remember what that movie is. The movie that was filmed on an iPhone where the...

Oh, yeah! Okay. Where she was in like an asylum or something? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. That was a great movie. This is going to be like that for me, guys. Sorry. Two and a half.

I like to... It had some good ideas. It left some possibility open that maybe she was going insane. Maybe they were dead. Maybe something else was happening. Maybe the husband was really dead and not talking to her on the phone.

But I don't know, man, for my money, just opening every drawer in the fucking house, throwing every book in your literal fucking bookshelf, you know, and looking for a goddamn doll for 35 minutes. Yeah, but then the scene of the daughter coming in and

seeing what the mother has done to the house, that just makes her look more like she's... You know what? This would have made a great 10 minutes short. That's, well, okay, so that's what I'm saying. I think if they had cut this 30 minutes shorter because like the horror aspects to this where it was like real ghost story shit was pretty creepy and I think that they did a really good job at that there was just too many

moments that had nothing to do with ghost story well I wouldn't say cut it down I would say the part building up to to the gin stuff kind of shortened that that time but taking that time and putting it more with the gen stuff yeah it was more of the third act of the movie that saved it for me For me, for me, for me, they, they did what our good friend Jack Falvey the fourth said about lost did. They opened way too many cans of worms and left way too many questions unanswered at the end. Because like the mute boy, was he really mute? Did he just not talk to his mom?

That was he somehow, that wasn't his mom. That was his aunt and uncle. Another, another unanswered question. No, they answered it. They said it was the nephew because his parents were killed in the war. All right, all right. I won't give it another watch,

but I'll take your word for it. So you guys ready to close this thing out? No, I still want to talk about your shitty scot. No, I'm playing. Oh, we do have something to announce, though, Brian, only exclusively for our patrons. Am I correct? I hope so.

Did it post? or not? Did it post? I just found out I don't have the login, so I can't even see it. Oh, no! All right, I'll send you some info so you can look it up. No, you know, Nez, Nez knows the login, so he can see it. All right, we'll check it out.

We should, we should have a Patreon-only episode of reviewing Hannibal season one episode one out. Get it. And we will continue this every week. And then after season one of Handelville, the plan is to move into what, Brian? Tales from the Crypt. Okay.

Oh, beautiful. So you guys know where to find us? You know how to become a Patreon patron. We don't need to tell you again. I have trouble preaching and begging. So if you want to join, join. If not, please just listen. It's cool.

Staying out with us every once a week. Yeah, subscribe to us on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. We have a Tumblr page, but don't worry about Tumblr. And we, me and Nez, finally put out an action returns episode.

It's about fucking time, man. That's what I said when I looked at the last time we put one out. It said September of last year. Oh, guess what? Guess what? Speaking of which, you're talking about the action returns and you're talking about Patreon. I think if I'm not mistaken,

the action returns just picked up a new patron named Lonnie Longsting or something like that. I'm going to have to double check on that. Does he get to pick a movie or what? He gets to pick a movie. If anybody's heard the stuff, me and Nes do, we break down the whole movie. There's no way

we're doing three movies in the first episode. Hey, but I'm going to throw out another what could be an action returns movie as a cool of the week that I completely forgot about considering we're talking about Slice Stallone the whole goddamn time over the top watch that sweet

that movie that movie's almost perfect except for the sun yeah I want to punch that kid so many times he's got a little shit didn't he yeah the arm wrestling movie

that's the one you gotta love a movie where he has his own little weight set in his semi-truck so he can work out, preparing for the next. You just move the, you know, you build the muscles right here, yeah. Even though his little finishing move to win the matches, I kind of always felt like it's illegal. I would think so, too.

I had questions about... Did he tickle him with a feather? No, he basically... Over the top. He basically re-grips. Because when you grip in an arm wrestling, you're supposed to keep the grip. He has readjust his grip. and I'm like, but that's, they told you not to do that.

Yeah. But arm wrestling in general seems weird because it's like depending on how you put your body, you know, I mean, you can use your whole fucking body. Like, are there rules to that? It seems like a weird fucking sport. It's even a sport at all. Which the only time I've ever seen it resembling a real sport is in this movie. It was big in the 80s.

Oh, yeah. I remember arm wrestling people all. the time at school, but I don't know if it was real other than that. Lance Lance Lonnie Longenstein he gets one movie.

Okay. And that movie is over the top. He better pick wisely then, right? Right now we're in the middle of the Canon, Canon films. The Ninja Trilogy. Oh, wonderful. Zim Vader

mentioned it, so we're giving him the trilogy. Very nice. And the next episode of Stream Feet should be probably out by the time you hear this and we did 1989's Lean on Me. Oh, classic. Very nice. I like it.

All right. Well, I think horror returns should be a lot of fun next week. Brian, shouldn't it? I mean... Is it going to be one of those episodes or what? I don't know if the movies will be good. But the conversation should be amazing. and that's the next installment of

Is it Really That Bad? Yes. With Trull 1 and Trull 2. Oh, okay. I think I just recently watched one of these. I'm about to watch it again. You about to re-watch it, brother. And if you guys have time,

check out the documentary on Trul 2. What is it called? The worst movie ever made. The best worst movie. Yeah. All right. I'll take it. All right.

Brian, until the horror returns again. Good. Goodnight.