The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #359: Psycho (1960) & Psycho II (1983)

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

Based on listener demand, we begin our Psycho retrospective with the Hitchcock original as well as Psycho II. Cool of the Week includes the Alien Brothel (no, seriously, it's a real place), The Truman Show, Spoonful of Sugar, and Living With Chucky. Trailers are Ahsoka and Hypnotic. The podcast spotlight shines on Books in the Freezer. And we get feedback from Xim Vader, Kate Pollock, Ryan Stevens, I Like It Spooky Horror Podcast, Gag Me With a Knife Podcast, CineDump, Mike J Marin, Alan Easterling, Cameron Sullivan, Nikki Barnett, and Mike Batchelor. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

This is Fiona Duraff, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror.

To The Horror Returns, I'm Lance. With me as always. We got Brian, we got Philip. We got Nas on the call. he said he's going to try to jump in, but he's road tripping it. So he might jump in to give his psycho scores or cool of the week or, well, wrestling returns. Like a mini wrestling returns, but. Yeah, we still got to do WrestleMania.

We haven't done that one yet. Oh, yeah. Well, at least we're keeping the website up to date, Brian. So if you go to the whorereturns.com, I think I've got all the newest shows up there. Yeah, I heard about that website. All right. Pretty cool. So y'all want to...

It's Easter Sunday, but it's awesome. I will go last for cool of the weeks because I think I got like eight movies I watched this week. Ah. And I have to think of it. Because I got to think about it first. Uh-oh.

If you guys want me to go first, it doesn't matter. Oh, man. Hey, there's Nancy. Yo. What's your cool of the week, man? There's French bread right now. I had to run to the store. The old lady cracked the whip.

I was like, I'm about to record. What's going on here? We just started like two minutes ago. All right. Cool of the week. I just got back from Arizona and went back to the motherland on the Navajo Reservation to visit family and my grandmother. My parents live off the res, but they live like miles away.

from there so got spent time time with my son my oldest son mark and his girlfriend shout out to them and uh just the road trip there and back 16 hours one way yeah uh try doing it try doing it in an eve it'll be 24 hours each way you have to stop the charts oh no we're not that high roller again. But I was thinking that, along the way, especially from Reno, Nevada to Las Vegas, it's a big, huge stretch. There used to be just nothing, but

small little one-horse towns and a lot of brothels, but it seems like all the brothels kind of disappeared. And there's still a couple in there hanging in there. Yeah, I saw some of your pictures, man. That one I did not. Not from inside the brothels. I would like to

go into that alien one. For those of you that are familiar with that, I can't remember the highway. There's a... Yes, there's a gas station. At a gas station. All right. It's kind of close to Area 51.

Sushi was bad. Hey, yo. Yeah. It's close to Area 51 from what they were saying. Like right over the mountains from it. And my little... My grandsons, they love aliens and everything. So we went in there just to let them have a good time.

Look around. There's nothing, but they sell t-shirts and regular gas station stuff. And there's a little cafe way in the back. But off to the right of it, I did not see it there until my wife pointed it out. I went, what? So we drove over there. Yeah, and it's alien brothel or something, whatever. It says Area 51 alien brothel.

I can't remember. But I was like, whoa. Are they dressed up like the girls from Star Trek or something? That's what I was thinking. I was like, can you go in there and say, hey, I want you to put this alien costume on or put it on this. They probably would for the right amount of money. This imperial outfit. Can you please put this on?

I don't know. Something with tentacles. You know how much money they would make if you got guys wanting to want them dressed like a so-go or something like that? Yeah, that's true. There was some girls in the bathroom. My wife said they were getting all dolled up. She didn't know if they were going next door to make that money. At the gas station?

Yeah. They were going to make money, but not over there. So that was cool. We stopped in Las Vegas. My son and I, we spent the night. He had been to Vegas numerous times, but only in the airport to transfer to somewhere else. So we finally got to do a little bit of the Vegas experience that he has. He's only 18.

He couldn't gamble or nothing. So he never really saw the strip or the old strip or anything. We stayed at Circus Circus. I was watching this thing on TikTok and they were saying that it was like one of the worst places to stay in Vegas and they showed the rooms all cruddy and the... It is.

I've stayed there many times. It's affordable. But if you stay out into the manor, was what they call it. Kind of like complexes out on the side of the lot of shit goes down out there because it's so far

from the, that's not far from the casino, but it's separate from the casino. we stayed in one of the towers i don't know it was nice it was clean it wasn't like all the pictures i saw i mean i'd stayed there a long time ago when i was a kid uh when it was old vegas when the mob and all then were running it not like with all these new ex caliber new york new york none of that was there yet so um we stayed there we did what we could we drove around showed them all the lights and everything we stopped into nightmare toys and night nightmare cafe that's right next to a shout out to

to a Nightmare Christy. We went in there, bought stuff that I didn't need. Listen to the Next East Society. I'll tell you everything I bought. Then we went to the Nightmare Cafe. It was like a bar, just regular bar food and stuff like that. So it was pretty good. The themes of the menu and everything, that was really cool.

Let me read one of the things. I had the Coojo. The Coochoo. That's what it was called. It was basically a dog burger. Uh, okay, it's Kujo. I think, I think, I think it's number 15 or maybe that was $15. I don't know. All beef, bacon, wrapped hot dog, grilled onion, roasted bell peppers, cold slaw, white barbecue, brishear roll. I think that's how you say it, and house fries. The fries are really good. They really season them up. But other things they got there, they got dead heat, original or spicy. I think it's just fried chicken. The chicken in the woods, sorority pole, uh, the fungus, the Blair Witch Waffle Project. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Portrait of a salad killer, the monster salad, the midday meat train, killer corn from outer space, voodoo chicken strips, Crowley's wings. Killer corn from outer space?

They didn't even go with like a children of a corn thing? No. That is beer battered, crispy corn, cheese, candied bacon, cilantro, porked, paprika, garlic mayo. I don't know what it is, but I assume on corn. It was stuff like that. So we just went to the restaurant. We ate in. We went to the store and bought up.

We were driving around all night, showing them everything, but for some reason we kept passing that place. The Nightmare Cafe, which was open all hours because it is a bar. I don't know what was going on there Friday night, but it looked like it was going on because the music was bumping out of there, the lights, everybody in there having a good time. I thought if I didn't have my son I would have been in there but I had to be the good dad I didn't uh well I took one down real quick uh when I left him in the room um that was cool

on our way down there we stopped at tonapaw and we stopped at the clown motel just really quick we went inside or went and just kind of looked at it took pictures and left on our way back home we actually stopped and went into it um I filmed some stuff I recorded a quick little interview with one of the workers there. He let us go into one of the rooms, which was cool. I did not know they made these movies called Clown Motel. Brian, we're going to get that one out of the way whenever you get to it. We're going to talk about it.

It's a movie. Yes, it is. We'll go into it more. Just take out the next ESP at the movies or whatever. But it was cool. The little interview that that guy gave me, shout out to Chris. It was interesting. It was only a couple minutes, but what he said was cool. And I want to go back there and maybe stay there.

I don't know when. He kind of creeped me out with some of the stuff he was saying. So listen to the Next Eat Society. We'll go into all that and listen to the interview that he gave me. So those are the things we did running around down there and visiting families. Seeing my grandma, she's 96 years old. She'll be 97 in June. So I think on the more spiritual side,

And for me, it was, I needed to see her because I had not seen her in seven years. So it was good to see her. Of course, the tears came out because I just, I rarely go down there. And I feel bad that I should go down there as much as I should because she's so up there and age. Because when it's her time, I don't know if I'll go down there. Well, my mom, dad are down there, it's almost likely. But it was really cool. Drama, of course, when you get down there with family.

But other than that, it was an awesome trip. My grandsons finally got to go back to the. to the motherland for the first time. This is their motherland too as well here in California on the res that we live on. But we had a good time. I had a really good time. It was awesome. 16 hour drive there,

back. I slept all day. But yeah, I'm here. That's my cool. That was my cool week. So alien brothel. Yeah. Okay, well, I remembered

myself, I'll jump in because they're not awesome. horror-related. I did have one horror-related one, but it's not really my cool of the week. It's I See You. It's on Netflix. You guys seen that? Yeah. I saw a long time ago. I don't remember if we reviewed it or not, but it took me till halfway through the movie to go, wait a minute, I've watched this before. You've seen it before. So it's my not cool to week. Ouch, out. It's all right. I mean, you know, Helen Hunt's there. She looks like one of the cat people from Sleepwalkers. but was a reanimator in that one? Huh?

Was a reanimator in that one? Jeffrey Combs? Yeah. Or am I thinking of something different? I think you're thinking of something else. Yeah. Yeah, it was Helen Hunt, and she did something weird to her face, man. She looks crazy in this movie.

Oh, that's the one with the people in the house. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I covered that one. I think it was last year. Yeah. I had totally.

I think we did it together for 31. Yeah. Okay. Sounds familiar. People were like, what is it, frog in? Yeah. Anyway, so that wasn't as good as I wanted it to be, especially since I've forgotten.

I watched it. And then ran across some old school family fun. We watched The Mask. Oh, Jim Carrey. Dude, great fucking movie, man. I haven't seen it in years. And then I got on a Jim Carrey kick, and I watched The Truman Show after that.

which is maybe my favorite Jim Carrey movie. So, I had a pretty good time. Not too. Horror-e, but, you know, Trudely show was my cool. We put down the mask or, uh, Truman Show?

Yeah. All right. Did, uh, did the kids watch the Truman Show with you? No, they were, they had already gone to bed. Oh, okay. But they really enjoyed the mask.

I mean, you know, they're 10 and 12. Oh, I enjoyed the mask, man. Yeah, it's a fun movie. Don't ever show him the mask tube. Yeah. Is that bad? With Jamie Kennedy? Jamie Kennedy.

I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that one. My favorite is Ace Ventura, the first one, pet detective. Is that the one where he's like coming out of a giraffe or an elephant or something? That was the second one. Okay. I think mine would be really like the cable guy.

That's a good one. Yeah, I think I'm with you on that one. I just watched that one. I just watched that one the last time I was at work. I forgot how dark it was somehow. Yeah, it's dark. Weird and crazy. Yeah.

The mask was cool because it gave him a chance to show off some acting chops. He wasn't just playing a character the whole time. But he was part of the time. And also smoking hot Cameron Diaz. Yeah. Who I'm not even a real big fan of, but God damn, it was not in that movie. Agreed. Agreed. All right. Well, my clue of the week, Brian, I know you've seen this one.

Newer movie called Spoonful of Sugar. Yes. Oh, man. I don't know who this young actress is that plays the babysitter. But I think she's got a future, man. She's got a lot of range. And she definitely convinced me she was insane. And basically, instead of her idea of microdosing was taking like three drops of acid. And then she started giving it to the kid. Daily.

Yeah. And then she started giving it to the kid. She was babysitting and they were tripping together. And it was, you guys seen that one yet, as Phil? That seems like a bad idea. I've never heard of it.

She did an awesome job. Because she kind of plays like a young, young, young-ish acting kind of girl when you first meet her in the movie and then her progression through the movie. kind of, I guess, being acting like a woman. Even though she's not a younger girl, she's what, early 20s or something? At least, yeah.

I think I looked her up and she's like 29 or something like that. So it's kind of like weird when those actresses like, you know, they get, well, yeah, the pig tails, I think made her look younger too. Yeah. And she was wearing at the beginning. And plus I felt like, you know, she's trying to portray a specific image to, to get that job so oh yeah for sure yeah and it worked um it's it's a good movie man it may maybe one of my favorite favorites of the year it's it's real early to tell but i mean i enjoyed it quite a bit you guys have should check it out yeah all right it was on me yes sir we're ready

for the marathon here brian all right i'll try to make it quick uh first one is a new blumhouse release i think it's going to end up being on uh m gm plus but you know, it's out there. It's called unseen. I've heard of this one. Yeah, I've heard of this one. Yeah, basic premise is a lady that works as a cashier at a gas station gets a phone call from someone she doesn't know. The lady lets her know I've been kidnapped.

I just escaped from my boyfriend. He's trying to kill me. I'm lost in the woods and I broke my glasses and I can't see. I need you to basically FaceTime me so to be my eyes. oh wow and I thought it was a good little thriller I just like the whole aspect of her having the beast you know the person's eyes

for them you know through through the phones and good little good little story quick watch I think it was about an hour and 20 so perfect perfect perfect for my lunch hour at work yeah Lance it goes by too

they get they get right into it so Another one I checked out is also around that time frame, hour and 20 is the park. Is this the one with the kids that are in the amusement park? Yeah. Okay. Basically, a virus happens, wipes out all the adults because it doesn't affect children, and then you just got these children trying to survive in basically a post-apocalyptic type of environment.

And you immediately get introduced to two kids murdering another kid with a machete. because they're trying to take his backpack to see if he has food and water. Oh, wow. Kind of a Lord of the Flies redo, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I thought the kids did a good job. You know, they had to balance that kind of trying to be much older than you really are

because you're dealing with serious situations, but also, you know, at times being the child. Right. So I thought it was entertaining. So that one's out there, too. What they call? the park I'll watch that kind of reminded me

of that one Star Trek episode when they went on that planet and Mary Yeah Mary All the kids were alive Let's see Now to the bigger releases Checked out inside

With Willem Defoe How was that? It's good It kind of leaves you I guess What's the word Ambiguous ending Okay

you try to figure out what happened because he's an art thief or he's a thief he breaks into this rich person's like high-rise apartment and something goes wrong and he gets locked in there and there's like no water there's no the heat's rising there's like the glass is unbreakable like oh shit he has no way it's soundproof because he's beating he's he got he gets to the point where he's like fuck it i'm a beat on the front door and scream for help because, you know, there's maids and stuff cleaning the hallway outside. Can't hear anything.

And basically it's just him trying to survive and him kind of going into madness as he goes on, you know, because you're isolated by yourself, talking to yourself and with no food and no water. He has food and water, but he has to, like, ration it.

That's wild. It's pretty good. I just kind of wish there was a clear-cut ending. I got to. like oh what did he get out did he not get out is it all in did he dies it all in his head you know so check it out it's also out there ah okay not on not on a streaming service then uh you can rent it okay maybe i'll rent it on iTunes then uh checked out Shazam Fury of the Gods oh how was that I didn't hate it

I didn't like it as much as the first one. I don't know what the big fuss is. This movie doesn't deserve to be a flop. The only problem I had with it is I feel like we didn't get enough Billy Batson. We got more of him as Shazam, which is kind of weird. So you're trying to imply that he's Shazam like all the time, this kid. Yeah. And then I felt like when he was Shazam, the way Zachary Levi played it kind of was a little,

less mature than the child played the character. Yeah, it was kind of weird. It was a lot more about his buddy, Adam Brody's character. Eddie from it. From it, yeah, that kid, the one

with some, I think he's on crutches. It would seem like it was more dealing with him and everything. But, I mean, it was good. It made me laugh. I liked it. I didn't see what everyone hated about it. They even hated their first one. But apparently this is it for Shazam.

I don't know if we're getting more from any of these people. I'm not going to spoil it, but from the end credit scene, I think we'll get Shazam. But I don't think we'll get Shazam movies. I got you. Okay. Well, we, yeah, how long has this movie been out? It's been a couple weeks. I already heard about the after, who shows up in the after credit scene.

Okay. Mr. Mike. Oh, no, I was talking about the scene with the two people that help Peacemaker. Oh, yeah. Oh, not the little

Nazi, huh? Ness? No, not him. The lady and the do with the beard that help they show up and they recruit him to what he thinks is Justice League,

but it's the Justice Society, which I don't know how far that will go on because they introduced that black atom and we're not getting black at them no more so i don't know if they're just red cotton in there i want to know which version of the justice society they weren't going to do i mean they obviously can't do the first one which had batman and superman if i remember right um but i don't know because there was so many in there and i don't if they want to just hype up what they have that's big now but they're like with james gun they're starting all over so i don't know what what they're

I mean, I'll watch it, but... And I think that's why the movie flop, because you can't release... It's like when Disney bought Marvel, or not Marvel, but when Disney bought Fox and got the X-Men back, and they were about to release X-Men Dark Phoenix. Right.

Nobody cared. Nobody cared. Because they were like, well, this movie's not going to have anything to do with the MCU, so why go watch it? So I think that's what happened. I ever saw it. I like it. I know. That's why I still haven't watched it to this day. It's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah.

It definitely, it's not going to go anywhere, but. Well, hey, what's her name? I was the only reason the chick from Game of Thrones. Oh, and I cannot believe. Was that your last one? Are you still gone? I got three more. Okay.

I forgot. Don't forget it. It's huge. I should have said. Okay, real quick. I checked out 65. Oh, yeah. It's cool. It's 90 minutes of

Kyle Wren, you know, protecting the little girl trying to, you know, fend off dinosaurs and trying to get back home. So they go back in time? Is that what they did? No, this was, if I watched a movie correctly, it's 65 million years before us as we know it on the planet. So it's an alien species that crashed in? Essentially, he's on a space. exploration right oh okay he has he has he has he has people that are cryo sleeping cryogenically

sleeping and they crash okay and everybody spoilers everybody dies that happens in every every time there's cryogenic freezing in a spaceship I was just say don't say that I'm watching it but never mind it's all right I wish there was more to it's it's it's a dinosaur it's a sci-fi dinosaur movie yeah I keep calling on Kyle Renn. I can't ever remember his name. He's Kyle Rann. Adam Driver. Yeah. Adam Driver. The worst movie? All I saw

was Kyle Red. Sorry, it does. All right. As long as Will Smith and his son didn't show up, you're good. I just watched that one again. I liked it. It's slow and boring, but I liked it. It's not his worst. Let's see. I checked out Antman and the Wask, Quantumania.

What did you think? Okay. I liked it. I did too. If, okay, if you're, if you're thinking it's going to be a heist movie like the first two, it's not this movie. Not this movie. Okay. They're in a, I think they did an awesome job with creating this world, this quantum, quantum around with all these aliens and basically this whole civilization of all these different creatures that lived there. I thought they looked cool. I thought Kang was a badass.

And then I just, I liked the progression of the story. we got introduced to one of the Kings and it's kind of off to the races now with what they're going to do with that and I know one of the end credit scene everybody thought it was kind of goofy but I liked it I flipped out with that very very last one

I'm ready for what's coming with that one for the series yeah I was I'm ready I was so hyped at that part Does it tie into Secret Wars? No. Okay. Not that one.

It ties into one of the TV series. Yeah. Okay. All right. One of the fan favorite TV series. It should be on Disney Plus in a week or two, and when it is, I'll watch it. Lance. 16th, I think.

Okay. You know, the only good series out of them. In my opinion. Moon Night. What, Moon Night? Moon Night. No. No.

Sucked. I'm still trying to finish Moon Night. No, I'm saying the series that is dealing with is the best series they have. Okay. And my last one, I'm making my cool of the week because I try to keep it horror on this show is Lance. I think you need to check it out because you are the Chucky fan. Yes. And I checked out the documentary Living with Chucky on Screenbox.

All right. I will. I'm going to have to get Screenbox. Yeah, is that something else we got to get now? It's like Shudder, but they're starting to get their own exclusives. Like, they had the terror fire movies before they were on anything. Is it $4.99? Like Shudder or is it? 499.

Not too bad. Damn you. Not too bad. All right. We can go $250 each, Nez. All right. Yeah. Let's do that.

This is. Really, really quick, really quick. Kang, do you think they're going to continue using that actor because of the trouble he got into? I don't give it. I'm not going to. he got a little domestic violence type don't cancel him don't cancel

king i'm gonna say like this if he did that then yeah replace him because you know especially if it's the story they're saying that that happened yeah but if he's innocent oh no if he's innocent then he's innocent until proven guilty so

innocent till proven guilty and from what i've read some marvel better pay big bucks to push that trial date back But I don't even know if it'll make it the trial because I read something that his lawyer said they have somebody took footage on phone that basically proves his side of the story. Uh-oh. And, yeah. Let's hope it is. And they're also saying the lady in question is kind of going back on her statement.

So. Ah, Marvel money. Is it some random lady? I don't think so. No, somebody knows. keep your hands of yourself you boys young boys out there I mean it's worth it especially if you're famous

it ain't kind of unfortunate that when this happened is when Creed came out right now you guys see that well it's right in with this character we loved it we didn't think it was this carbon copy of Rocky 5 Nez yeah it was that was totally

Rocky 5 and Rocky 3 okay real quick let me finish and then we'll get back to Creed All right. And then Philip, don't forget your other one. Living with Chucky is done by Kyra Elise Gardner. She is the daughter of Tony Gardner. He does a lot of effects for the Chucky movies. So that's where the title of the documentary comes from because she basically grew up around Chucky and the actors and the people that worked on it.

Great documentary. They go from the Chucky, first Chucky movie all the way through all the movies. up to the Chucky series. They get everybody in there for interviews. And they even get, like, actors that didn't have anything to do with the movie. They were just big fans of the series. Like Abigail Breslin, Lynn Shea,

fucking Marlon Plan shows up because he's a big fan of the series. That's random. So, yeah, when I had to rewind it because I was like, when was he in one of the movies? But I guess, you know, he's friends with, the lady that made the documentary she's friends with the dad that did the effect that's cool and uh i'm assuming that's probably how he you know he's probably asked you know since you're big fans of the doctor the franchise come talk about it on this documentary and yeah um you learn

a lot of things about the making of it the people dealing with it you know uh how this was a a big thing in the career of Fiona Duroff, how she probably would have just not really been noticed as an actress if it wasn't for her doing the role she has in the series, or the franchise. Yeah, that makes sense. And she also comments how weird it is, basically, if you've seen the Chucky series or the movies at one point,

her dad's character is inhabiting her body so she has to play the part of her dad's character living inside her body and yes how awkward it is

and and a lot of the scenes and she still does it she still does it through the series Brian okay

oh you're talking about Chuckies the Chucky. Yeah. Really quick. Last year, Texas Fright Mayor, my buddy's son, he loves Chuckie and all that. So he

stood in her line to meet her. It was like forever to be in that line, but he got up there and met her. She signed whatever he had, took a picture. Oh, no, before he took the picture with her, her dad was right next to her. But he was telling her how big of a fan he was. And she was like, oh, that's so sweet. He was like 15. So he was standing. He was standing

there for a picture and then she went dad get in here so he slid right in and i told him i said do you fucking lucky yeah look at i said look at his line and all he had to do was slide over and take a picture with you with his daughter he was super happy that is amazing they're both yeah yeah they're both really cool i want 100% of recommended documentary even even the stuff with jennifer tilly like she didn't even want to do the the what was it uh bride of chucky yeah she didn't even want to do a Chucky movie until she met with Don Mancini and he basically said he wrote that

character with her and Marr and broke it down to her and she was just like, okay, I'll do it and then she said it's been one of the best things, one of the greatest, funnest things she's done in her careers. Yeah, definitely where I know. Man. Yeah, I'm getting, I'm picking up the network, Nez.

We'll figure, we'll figure something out. I got to watch this. Which one, it says go premium for ad free. Is that the yearly one? I don't know. I get mine through Amazon and it's 499. We'll figure it out. We'll find a good deal.

Yeah. Okay, Creed one. Creed three. How was it compared to five? I saw the movie when it came out. Well, it was boxing. There was a video. I had thought about it when I was.

I had thought about it when I was watching. I was like, that's like this. There was a video somebody made compared showing the scenes of Creed, then some scenes of Rocky 5. And I was like, wait a minute. I thought that, too, before I saw that video. It was just some small little things, but I just... So you're saying Dame was basically Tommy Gun? Yeah.

Tommy Gun. Yeah, that's how it was. Tommy the Machine Gun. When, what's Kilmonger's name? Adonis or whatever. When he comes out and Kang is leaning on his truck waiting for him, then they show a scene of Rocky coming out of Mighty Mix. Hey, coming out of Mighty Mix. And there's Tommy standing there waiting for him.

And I was like, I was like, wait a minute. But then there was some other things with Rocky 3 and everything. I mean, overall, the movie, I like the movie, the thing that bothered me the most, was that fight scene at the end. I didn't like the whole little artsy shit they tried to do. Just give me a straight boxing match. I kind of took it as they were tuning out the crowd,

and it was just them. It was like a Broadway show when the bars from the prison came down and everything else. I was like, what does the game match? Well, he... And right, right, especially if they broke into song. Then I would have zero.

I would have walked out. he he had to put some kind of stamp on it as his director he had to put his flare on it which that's why there was a lot of anime references and some of the punches or I guess I don't know I'm just what I read were like anime style they're kind of at well I don't know but and then I just wanted a straight fight give me a good fight like all the other movies and then the scene of the beginning of the flashback when he was younger that's why there was a lot of anime posters because that's that's how

Michael B. Jordan grew up. Like in hardball. Okay, that's cool. Or the wire. Oh, man. I just started watching. All my children. Sad. In the wire.

He started it out and all my children. Did he? I think it was a general hospital where he played ranching. I remember him all my children. I remember my wife used to watch it. Here, I might have to look it up. I think it was general. Maybe it's general hospital. y'all go ahead.

Are they off that island? I remember that? Yeah, they did end up on an island on that, didn't they? Yeah. It was like lost. Yeah. And then I can't believe. That's how old we are, everyone.

My main one, we went to go see the Super Mario Brothers. Oh. Fucking awesome. Oh. Oh, good. That's what I'm up. And it's another movie. It's another movie.

The Rotten Tomato score is like 50. And the audience score is like 98 or, something like that. Yeah, that's because they hate Chris Pratt. Does he talk like Mario? Why do you hate to Chris Pratt? If he had been doing that,

Is he me, Mario, the entire movie, dude, you'd have got tired of it after five minutes. I mean, I don't know. When I first saw the trailer, when he talked, I didn't,

I wasn't like, hey, that's not how he's supposed to sound. I just, I thought the animation looked cool, and it's using all the stuff from the games. And I was like that,

that seems pretty fun. The voicing thing is not weird. It was all my children. I'm sorry. Was Luigi Mexican in this one? But they do address. It was Louis G. Mexican. What's his name?

Isn't John Liguizamo? Yeah, he was Louisian. Oh, okay. Sorry, so I didn't mean to offend anyone. Bob Hoskins was Mario. You know what? Just because you just because you did that, that's coming to a stream. fame soon.

Uh-oh. I have not seen. The last time I saw was when it came out. I think that was the only time I seen it. No, but I thought Chris Pratt did a great job. Charlie Deyes, Luigi was freaking perfect. Right. Jack Black, of course.

Even Seth Rogan's annoying ass was pretty good at Donkey Kong, and they had Fred Armisen. I see a spinoff movie in the works. Oh, I'm sure. There's probably going to be a whole Nintendo universe. There's tons, tons of Easter eggs. They do address the voice. There's like a commercial for the Mario Brothers at the very beginning of the movie. Okay.

And in the commercial, they're speaking in that super thick Italian, Hey, to me, my brother Luigi, we're going to fix on your pipe. You know, and then the commercial goes off and they're like, did we do too dick on the accent? They're like, nah, it's not right. See, I like that. You address the voice. Right?

So I thought, I mean, you know, it's not going to win any awards, but it was every good as a Sonic movie. Should win the Oscar. It might win the Oscar. Best animated movie, you never know. No, best feature film. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. How many of those movies did you watch, Lance?

Oh, the Mario Brothers movies? No. The Oscar movies. Oh, I saw most of them. I watched the most important one. I'll just say that. Yeah. Well, everything, everyone all at once, deserve what it got.

But I think the Banshees should have at least gotten a best director. Get the fuck. Real quick. That screenplay, maybe. Have you guys seen this Barbie trailer? What is that? Ryan Gosling in it? Is this movie for adults?

It's for people that grew up with Barbie, like, probably before me. Because there's a scene at the end. It's like a teaser. There's a scene at the end. They're supposed to be like multiple kins. Yeah. They're about, they're about, they're about, they're about, I'll beat you, I'll beat you off. You want to have a beach off right now?

And then they're like going back and forth. No one's going to beach me off. I'll beach both of you off. And I'm just kind of like, who is this made for? And one of the kins is being played by, uh, Shang-chi. Brian, I think you know. Shang-ji, all right. Ah, interesting.

Okay. They will have a beach off and beat each other off. It was funny. It kind of made me want to watch the movie if it was going to have that kind of humor. I think it is, man. I think it's going to be better than you expect. Are they going to step in? I'm watching the trailer.

Are they going to stay in this Barbie world? Are they going to come out into the real world? I don't know. I thought it was hilarious when Margot Robbie takes her shoes off and her feet are like the barbit balls. You know how it's on the tip of toes? Her feet are like that without the shoes. maybe she'll take her shirt off too right I don't know what the rating is

well she's got panties on now in our day she didn't have any right I think I think Michael Sarah is one of the kins oh god yeah and of course hellfuls and that's insane

Will Ferrell's like the evil toy CEO guy Will Ferrell yeah kind of I kind of want to watch it I don't know I mean I don't I don't think I I don't think I'll go to the theater and watch it because my kid.

Never say never. My daughter, my youngest daughter was never. Actually, both of my daughters were never into Barbies. Seems like it was more of an 80s thing. Like, I remember my cousin used to, uh, we caught him upstairs one time. He had taken all their clothes off and he was drawing pubic hair on. He's trying to make them anatomically correct. Right.

Oh, sorry. Oh, okay. That's like you're watching the Barbie thing. injured, I would beat you off right now, Ken. I'll beach up with you any day, Ken. Anyone who wants to beat him off, has to beat me off first. I will beat you off at the same time. What the hell is?

We know where this is going. And, like, people gather, people, like, gather around. He was like, I will beach off everybody here. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That is it.

I need to watch that one again. I like that movie. I just said I had to bring that up real quick, because I was, I was confused at what age it was geared towards. I'm putting it down as your cool of the week. Barbie trailer. Okay. Okay.

All right. Next. Barbie is it. Well, if you want to stick to the horror, you know how evil the Barbie is? Did you guys watch that, the toys that made us? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Watch the Barbie one.

Dude, I didn't realize how ruthless they were. I heard you talking about that. The toy world and you're dealing with millions. of dollars and shit like that. Right. That market share. Mattel, man. They're ruthless.

Mattel. All right, Brian. You got to be headlines to throw at us besides the Barbie trailer. Yeah. This will be all over the place. I didn't continue my streak of taking notes. That lasted one week.

So. Let's see. What do we have here? This found out last night. Another show pulled off HBO Max and is now streaming for free on Roku Ridley Scott's raised by Wolves So they're continuing to pull shows

Off the streaming sites we pay for To put them on streaming sites we don't have to pay for Hmm Well, they're good or bad Exactly, that's not all bad necessarily If you don't have to do any commercials If I'm paying, it's an HBO Made show

If I'm paying for HBO Max, I want to watch HBO shows, you know. True. They're just going to eventually pull them on and put them on these free streaming sites, and I'll just not pay for HBO Max then. Well, might be a good idea. Hadn't watch anything on HBO Max in a minute. Yeah, I mean, like something.

House of the Dragon. Something like, House party. Oh, God. That movie is garbage. We need to, we need to do that to finish the franchise. We have to. We did all the other way. It's already covered it, man.

No, I'm talking about it. again. We'll do a full breakdown of how it was. If we did part four and the night, the night or whatever the hell that one was, we got to finish it with this one. Aye, aye, y'

Let's see. James Juan's Supernatural Thrillers Night's Whim gets a January 5th, 2024 release. So it looks like that'll be the first horror movie we'll be checking out next year. Is he directing or just producing? Directing. It's part of his

part of his new deal with Universal. All right. January horror movie. Okay. Let's see. We got some casting for the new Pennywise series. Welcome to Derry. Taylor Page.

Jovan Adipo, which he was the main character in that Overlord movie. Okay. Oh, okay. Chris Chalk and James Remar. Hmm

Now Ajax Nothing super exciting there But uh Welcome to Derry What about Scars Guard is he in it That's what I was wondering They said as of now

He is not locked in Okay That kind of sounds like Negotiating to me Yeah Throw that check at him Because you know This is

They say it's a lot more work doing TV Than movies so yeah I mean he he he doesn't have to be in every episode though Brian he could just kind of like you know pop in yeah but he's he has to be in it though at some point at some point yeah yeah if they stick somebody else in his place it's not going to go yeah that would be bad you can't you can't get you can't get one of the other scars guard brothers and throw him in there and say this is penny or the dad oh stelling yeah it's still it in there I kind of want to see that now I can't put Alexander in there.

Almost too good looking. Let's see. Paramount's rated horror Western Oregon Trail has been rated R. You've got them, Desimiteri. Based on the text-based video game? Lusely. I hope so.

That sounds awesome. you got dysentery you found a can of pork and beans A for open B for not open it You had a diet of food poisoning We've all like so far We pretty much like Pearl and X right Yes

So we're kind of looking forward to back scene Yep Well we got some 80s hell yeah Casting confirmed Gene Carlo Sper Bezito. Kevin Bacon. Yeah.

Elizabeth DeBickey, Moses, Sonny, Michelle Monaghan, Bobby Conavow, Lily Collins, and Halsey. Oh, wow. Huh. Have all joined the cast. Great cast, man. Great cast. I assume it's still in this one.

Yeah. Kind of has to be, right? Also, I believe, co-wrote the movie. Because I guess she had to co-wrote the movie. what was it, Pearl? Pearl? Yeah, so. Let's see.

How's that Infinity Pool? Is that any good? Yeah, I liked it. I think you all liked it pretty much. All right, I'll just check it out still. She was really good in it, especially when she was throwing that chicken from the bucket. Yeah, she's,

Nez, she's a fucking nutcase, and she does it real good in that. Well, it helps that she doesn't have any eyebrows. It just makes her look more. stop looking at her eyebrows. I know. I don't like that. That's something weird with me.

No eyebrows or crazy-looking eyebrows. I can't stop staring at him. I never noticed me and my wife we were watching. We had watched the first one X in the theaters. And I've never noticed it. And she leaped over and was like, where's her eyebrows? And then now I can't actually like that too. I think they're there.

They're just thin and faint that you can, if you have to catch it with a light. Let's see. Five Bikes at Freddy's. Ah, for Logan, Philip. Yeah, October 27th. Finally. Theater. They already did it better with Nicholas Cage.

Oh, yeah. Theater and Peacock, same day. Ah, cool. We can watch it at home. Which is what everybody else is going to think. well from what I understand if it's going to create the same atmosphere as the game you'd probably want to see it in the theater yeah that's true that makes sense well that shows they have no faith in it if they're going to release it same day

it has uh what's his name from hunger games pita bread hey you don't want to rush to the theater to watch it future man yeah man himself huh is it rated R that's their big name uh PG 13 That's their big name. That's why. Well, they want the younger audience in there. Yeah, that's true. They go PG-13.

I mean, that makes sense. I think it'll make decent money because of the popularity with the younger kids and stuff. Yeah. And lastly, I don't know if I need to finish the series because it all got spoiled to me.

Dexter, three spinoffs have been announced in development. Wow. I tapped out that last season. It was pretty good last season, man. Come on. I kind of liked it.

Dexter Origins. I believe it will take place because when we get introduced to Dexter in the first episode of season one, he has that whole case of the blood samples of all his victims. Yes. So I think it'll

take place when he starts killing people. I always thought that was stupid I love the series I'm gonna be wrong but I thought that was dumb keeping evidence what are you doing what's up with that in 10 years they're not going to have any original movies left it's all just going to be

spin-offs and sequels yeah we're kind of there already yeah we've been there next spin-off will be about the Trinity Killer okay with the fuck is his name

come on John Lithgow. Yeah. I was going to say the creepy guy from that horrible pet cemetery remade. From Eric deythons. Lastly, this. Wasn't he a killer in Dexter? Yeah.

He's going to. I think he's going to come back or something. Oh, that's what that's what it's called? Yeah. Oh, okay. Duh. All right. My bad.

Sorry. Oh, yeah, because they never killed them off in the series. Did they? Did they bring back? Spoiler. Oh. Not there yet. See, this is why I killed.

I thought you were I thought you didn't watch the last season. I didn't, but I don't need to now because the final possible spin-off series will be about Harrison Morgan. Oh. And reading the news to post it on our

social media accounts. And did I read a little too much. So I know where that character goes. It happens. It's still worth watching. man is it I heard people didn't like the the new blood series I did it I enjoyed it I think that's the news we'll finish it off of me getting spoiled Dexter all right Nez Fillebeth Nez Phillip you guys ready to go down to the

trailer part not the brothel niz let's go all right right Brian is gonna bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the first new trailer tonight, man? Robert Rodriguez's new action mystery thriller, hypnotic. A

detective investigates a mystery involving her missing daughter, his missing daughter, and a secret government program. This stars Ben Affleck, William Fickner, Alice Braga, Jeff Fahey,

Kelly Frye and a bunch of other people I don't need to go through this whole list Of course this is like I said directed by Robert Rodriguez I don't know about you guys but I'm in I like this kind of mind-bending kind of mystery who've done it what happened

Is it really happening? I like I like these type of movies Yeah, got a hell of a cast I think I'm definitely down for it It could go. I feel like it could go either way, though, because... Yes, it could. Obviously, the bad guy is just, like, fucking using the force to hypnotize people.

Mind control. These are not what you're looking for. They tried to quickly explain it in the movie or the trailer where it's, like, certain sounds and words. Yeah, but he does it all quick. Yeah. I'm sure they'll get more into it. It almost kind of reminded me to get out with the whole teacup. Yeah.

So maybe it's like that, but there's a bunch of different versions that you can use if you know how to use them. Maybe, but like even the teacup scene and get out, like took the whole scene to do it. And you could tell him sort of slowly start to drink away. And in this one, he's like, you need to fight that guy. And they're like, okay. So I kind of got the impression that maybe they're mutants. Is that right? Kind of like almost like an X-Men vibe, but they're all able to, they have some kind of weird power to hypnotize.

Because they call them hypnotics. Is it they or just the one guy? They refer to. Yeah, they said they. Hypnotics. Okay. So I actually, I would kind of be out on that if they were mutants. I kind of like this.

Maybe it's a high. trained government agents that are trained in hypnotic, hypnotizing people. I like that idea better. Yeah, could be. Well, we're going to watch it. I mean, it looks interesting. It's got a good cast. Robert Gardner's in a Ben Affleck movie.

I mean, right. Scanners? He said. Is it like scanners? I can see that. Yeah, I hope maybe we'll get a good head explosion. I don't know. man who's Derek goats

Wait, I see a Ben Affleck one under it Is this something different? No, it's Ben Affleck. It's Ben Affleck. Yeah, Bat Fleck is in it. He is? Yeah. Is he in the trailer?

What the hell did I just watch? You're looking at that hypnotic movie, that movie called Hypnotic, that came out two years ago. A year ago, okay. That looks good. There's an awful lot of time. That threw me off too, man. I was like, what the hell?

What are you guys talking about? That was a Benson and Morhead, I think, that directed that one. Oh, okay. It took place in New Orleans. Oh, so back in the movie. How did you see it? It looked good. I want to watch it.

Okay. It's good. But that's not the one we're talking about. All right. All right. I just watched that whole trailer when you guys are talking about. All right. This is the new. This is Hypnotic Remix.

Oh, okay. This looks cool. I'll check it out. Oh, I like that. All right, yeah, I'm in. Alice Braga. Yeah, her. I like her.

Good cast. She was a badass and, what was it, Predators? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was in that TV series, right? Oh, Queen of the, yeah. I heard that's a good show.

Yeah, my wife watched them all. All right. Hypnotic comes to theaters May 12th. Okay. And as you are on the perfect episode, because the next trailer we're going to talk about is Asoka. There you go. Have somebody dress up like you're at the... All right.

I'll watch it, but I don't know. What are those things on our head called? Would they be like tentacles? Like, how would you... Tendrils? I don't know. You're kind of like... All right, Nez, you don't sound too high.

for Osoka. I don't know. It's just, I mean, I love what's her name? Come on, man. It's in universe, dude. I love her, but this better explain to me

where the hell she's been this whole time. It looks like it will. It's showing characters from like three or four other Star Wars series, so it looks like it's going to tie a lot of shit together.

I'm looking at the cast list. It looks like Hayden Christensen and we'll be coming back as Anakin Skywalker. There you go. Little Annie. If it's not flashbacks, maybe, uh,

well, when does this take place? Is this, well, this is obviously after the death of Vader. Um, because this, this is after,

is when, is this before Mandalorian or after? I have no idea. That's why I was going to refer to you. Real quick, uh, some of the other castmates, uh,

cast members are, uh, Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Okay. Ray Stevenson, Natasha Lou Bordizo. She plays Sabine. Yep. And this is after.

I think this is before. Sabine is from the cartoon, right? This definitely ties into Indoor, because I saw a couple of characters from Indoor in it. Okay, I'm a fan of Star Wars, but I don't know all the characters. I know people got crazy when Grand Admiral Thron, pop up in the trailer

Who was he? We finally get to see him. He's from a book. Yeah, he was from a book in the video games. Yeah, okay. Is he like a major, major character? Yeah. Because they thought Middleton was going to be

Throng in Rogue One. Right? They thought that was going to be him, but it wasn't. But I believe this was before. From what I see, I think this was before, I think, is before Mandalorian. I think so. Close last name. He'll be played by

Lars Mickelson, not Mendelsohn. And who is Sabine? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, not Mendelsohn. Was that his name the guy that was the bad guy in Rogue One? Yeah. Ben Mendelsohn. Yeah, all right. Sabine was from the cartoon one. What the... Yeah, the Clone Wars. Okay. I think it was a Clone Wars.

No, not Clone Wars. The other one, Rebels. Rebels. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's another major character. Yeah. In that particular show, yeah. It's sort of a random one, though. They thought Sabine was going to pop up in Mandalorian, but she didn't. Yeah, that one actually, it does have some cool moments in it.

Vader pops up a couple of times. I think somebody else comes in in the rebels, but it's not something I ever watched all the way through. I'm about Star Wars doubt, to be honest. I mean, I'm ready for Ray. That new movie. I was about to say, we could talk about, since Lance disappeared, could talk about the Star Wars movies that were announced. Ness just brought up the one that would be featuring Ray, Daisy Ridley, coming back.

Oh, okay. And now that she's like Grandmaster Jedi or whatever, huh? There actually is going to be two new things. Star Wars movies. One is going to be directed by James Mangold and the other one by Dave Maloney. Okay. We still got to get the Acoly and all that still. That's the one I'm kind of hyped for, because I always wanted to see the perspective

from the dark side, the other side. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy that Star Wars is since within the last 20, almost 30 years. it's been just back it's back because there was a big gap of nothing yeah from Star Wars after uh after a Jedi I mean we said we had the toys and everything but it was they were it was starting to build up before episode one came out and then it just kind of it did episode three then it took a little break and then it started coming now it's like it's it's there and it's it's not going anywhere so yeah but now it sort of

seems like I feel the same way about Star Wars as I do about the Marvel universe right now. It's just too much. Yeah. They're kind of slowing it down though. Yeah, I think they realized they were doing too much and they came out and said there's not going to be

that big of output shows and movies. I think Star Wars will do the same thing. Like I haven't even seen an episode of the New Mandalorian season yet. Oh, so good. Is it? I'm waiting to binge it. Don't say anything. I'm waiting to binge it. Oh, my God. It's awesome. I didn't see the last episode, but so far what we've seen, I'm like, man, I'm in. As far as Is Soko speaking from someone that doesn't really know the character, she looks badass. I mean, the action scenes look good, and she, I wouldn't mind.

I don't know if they were listening to the fans, and because there was a little before it was even announced before she even took. the role, Rosario Dawson. Fans were, like, hype and gotten her to do it. All the art and everything that the fans came up with. She's perfect for it. Yes, she's amazing. I think the artwork is

what really pushed it over when you were able to visualize her as the character. Because when she came out on Mandalorian, oh man, that was tears in my eyes. I love Rosario Dawson ever since. First thing I saw her and it was kids. But oh, man. She's done a

Amazing. We only seen her in that little bit in Mandalorian. Or was it a mannorian? Yeah. And now we're getting a full show on her. I'm in for it. But I don't know. It's just I just want a lot of. I just have more questions. And I'm sure they'll answer it all as the series goes on. I don't know if this is a one and done series. But if it continues, I'll watch them. But I mean, I'm in. I'm in for it. I mean, I'm just, all right, give me and give me answers and do a good job. Don't do what that dumb ass did with the last. Jedi and ruin everything. Just make it, I don't care what Theo says, make it good because what they've done so far with the Star Wars TV shows, I know a lot of people didn't really care for Andor. It was slow, but it wasn't

it was Star Wars, but it wasn't the Star Wars that everybody was used to with the Jedi's and the excitement and all that. That was more of just a slow dramatic stuff of what was going on with Andor, which was amazing. I liked it. I'm glad that they made it. Because I had a lot of questions of that. When we were

introduced to him in Rogue 1. Like, who the hell is this dude? Yeah. And the stuff that he was saying, like, oh, man, that'd be awesome as a TV show. Then they gave it to us. So that, that's amazing. I loved it. So you want, you want the new movies to take us back to that casino planet? No. I don't know. I don't want none of that shit. I need some more Skywalker shit in my life, man. Or at least some Jedi's and Sith, history, something like that. If it doesn't have to do with that, if it's just people doing shit that they could do in any other universe, then I don't care.

You know? I'm glad that they didn't really, with the way Jedi ended, or last Jedi ended with that little boy with the force and how anyone can have it. Yes. Yeah.

The scene from Brecken 2? Yeah. Me? I was like, oh, I'm an old man. I was there in 77 from the beginning. And what they were teeth telling us in the books and the comic books

and then this motherfucker comes along and gives this bullshit in The Last Jedi. I mean, don't get me wrong. I still watch it. But I get some enjoyment out of it. But I just didn't like what he did. I didn't like that he took JJ's idea and said, oh, that's cool and threw it out the window.

This is what I'm going to do. Right. You know, I still don't blame him. I blame the studio. And what's her name? Kathleen Kennedy. I was blaming her, but she's been hitting it out of the park lady with her decisions on what's going on with the TV show. She's still involved.

I thought she was only in. I don't think she's making decisions. I thought that was only in name only her position I don't know how she didn't get fired I thought she was like the main say-so now dealing with all of Star Wars stuff I feel like

I think Jay Filoni and Favro I think it's Follonia Favro yeah I agree I think it's them but I think they kept her as like the face to kind of make it seem like nothing's you know we know what we're doing here talking wrestling terms now

come yeah come on oh man we got to do wrestling media everyone Sorry, man, I was going for a week, everyone. We're doing our two. It might be, I don't know if it's one show or two, but we're doing WrestleMania. Yeah, because I have some things to say. Yeah, I got a lot to do. About that weekend.

I got a lot to say. But, yeah. I don't necessarily think it should be a weekend anymore. No, uh-uh. Go back to one day. Yep. All right. Uh, Soka, coming to Disney Plus.

IMDB doesn't have a date date, but it says, Right. Yeah, it says August 2023. All right. Midnight. I'll be there. Not bad. All right. On to some listener feedback. We'll start with Zim, because he addressed our issue last week with his patriotism. Oh, that's right.

He said, I listened to that yesterday, and I have no idea what the fuck I was on about. I haven't even seen Hannibal yet. Well, watch it now. Watch it with us. Is it good? Regrettably, I tried. Yeah. regrettably, I tried some sunshine that a friend made, and it seems I've sent some mysterious messages at this time. Yeah, because one, I got the impression he hated Hannibal.

Two, I got the impression that he hated us even reviewing Hannibal. Yes. And it made him want to renounce his patriotism. I was like, the show was good. I don't know what's going on there. Fuck you guys, I'm jumping in the ocean. And this week will shine the podcast spotlight on Books in the Freezer. This is Books in the Freezer, a podcast dedicated to the delicious, deliciously disturbing world of horror fiction. Our topical biweekly episodes will cover those scary books that you might want to put in the freezer.

but okay don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss any of our recommendations I think you ever put a book in the freezer no but I'm I use I use a nook now I've used it for like has a book ever been so delicious

you want to put it in the freezer I don't know but I'm I'm subscribing to the podcast right now so yeah I thought you would like talking about here I thought you would like that one because it deals with books All right. I am now following the show. Keep it real.

Stick with regular books. I bought a book. Old school. Regular books? You mean non-horror? Is that what you're talking about? Any kind of books. Oh, you mean real books?

Yeah, real books. Well, that's cool for graphic. Remember those, Lance? You can't do graphic. I just bought a graphic knowledge. Physical one and I read it. But they're so fucking expensive, man. Like the whole Sandman series, I was going to buy it.

The box set is going to cost. 300 fucking dollars man look how I'm gonna count all the shitty movies you've rented adds up more than a book and all the shitty ones that I bought on iTunes and regarding dual Zim Vader says fantastic yep yeah and was Tim Davis driving the truck Nez posted a hilarious clip on the action returns group Changing the soundtrack makes us an entirely different movie check it out You remember that one? Nez? I don't know

It was a while ago, over a week ago I think. All right Oh I forgot He was taking his shirt off And the other guy was like unbuckling his belt buckle You were getting a mixed martial arts. Oh, it was a way of the dragon with Chuck Norris and, uh,

I think it was, um, careless whispered off and I undid their belt. When they were getting ready to fight at the end, I weighed the dragon, Chuck Norris. I thought we were still talking about duel. Okay, I know what you know. No, no. That's what I was. That's what I was, I was a never thing out of her. I don't know that thing.

I kind of spaced out for a second. regarding unseen Kate Pollock asks where is it showing Unseen You are able to find it Yeah But if you don't partake

It is available to rent Anywhere streaming And the poster had MGM Plus on it So I'm assuming Eventually it's going to be on there which I think MGM Plus is a fucking stupid app. You bought MGM. You bought their catalog.

It's going to have a fucking app for MGM license movies. This is fucking stupid. This is like the CBS All Access remix from Philip that we had a couple of years. Look at what it started. And then you know what's so fucking stupid? What's that? That show we were watching from. yes that's um well it was it was epics but epics is yeah fgm plus you can watch the first season of from on amazon prime

oh my god just put mgm stuff on prime yeah well but then they wouldn't make the extra money see i was the lone man standing in front of the tank at tn and smear on cbs all access and look what they They rolled over me and everybody else. Now it's just normal and nobody even realizes. I feel bad now. We should have, we should have, we should have backfill on this. Now it's, now it's getting out of the hand. It is.

It's getting paid more for service than you do for cable. It's like. It was at there holding up flowers. I never even heard of this. It used to be epics. It's like, Oh my God. I can keep up with it.

Is one day, is one day, um, if we want to watch Pixar movies, we can't watch them on Disney Plus because they're going to have a separate Pixar streaming channel. Yeah, you can count on that. Although at that point, Disney's going to own everything

that we have, so we'll just be renting it from them. Living in the pods and eating the bugs. You know who I'm liking right now? I like Peacock, because they're been consistently putting out, don't take your dirty mind there. You like the cock. My only issue with them is the way they have it.

My only issue is the way they have WWE network and I don't like it. It was easier on their own. It's not the network that it was before. It's just their product on their network. They just throw it on there and they don't care what we think. Like if you want to go ahead. The way they had it, especially if you were. watching an old

pay-per-view, you can go to the match you wanted. Now it's just you've got to fast forward through all the bullshit before you can get to what you want to see. Lance, they had the WWE network before. If you wanted to watch, I don't know, Sting,

Russell, Rick Flair in this pay-per-view in 1998 or whatever, you can go to that specific match. You don't have to watch the whole pay-per-view. That's how it should be. Now you have to watch the whole pay-per-view or fast-forward to it. And if you go to that pay-per-view, say they do that pay-per-view every year. Yeah?

The years, it's not organized by year sometimes. It's just all kind of mixed-match. That makes no sense. But I was talking about Peacock because of the movies, like Cocaine Bear is going to be streaming their Friday. Oh, wow. Ah, okay. Unrated version? Yeah.

the whatever they maximum carnage or whatever they're calling it why would they not have put all that shit in the theater no shit it seems like you so you can buy the Blu-ray or get Peacock there's like to buy it there's going to be a steel book too

I don't think steel book might as well man I think I'd just seen regular release not even a slip case come on aero or one of you guys scream factory uh and regarding the ruins

that went wild from unseen but uh regarding the ruins ryan stevens says uh i remember being pleasantly surprised by this one the movie good movie yeah yeah that movie's hell again the killer plants the ass tech temple it was a lot a lot better than the m night killer tree oh that one yes i like that one happening

it's somewhere it's somewhere back here I was about to say if you have it right there where you can grab it next to my I'd have to search forward what was the one with the guys in the woods and the windigo

pet cemetery no pet cemetery you just heard him stopping in the background that new one that would like it was one I get that one in the ruins confused

Huh. I don't know what you're talking about. I was thinking of the one with the kid. Yeah, I was thinking of that newer one. That was no. Maybe I'm just confused. Ignore me.

I'll just drink some more whiskey. Regarding smile, Ryan Stevens says smile is excellent. Yeah, agree. That was a pretty good surprise for me. I don't know about excellent, but it was good.

Yeah. There you go. The I Like It Spooky Horror Podcasts says Thanks for Sherry No problem All right The gag me with a knife podcast I like them

Sorry I rarely get on this page on my Facebook Is what they said But yeah I will share that just for the fucking name That was awesome Sin a dump says You guys seen Skinnamarink yet And I guess that makes a

I'm going to have... I changed my mind on it. I changed my mind on it. I don't think I'll ever change my mind on it. I mean, I didn't like the experimental shit that they were trying to do because it made you think about it. But it made me think about it so much that I was like, I had to research other people that watched it to hear what they were thinking.

And some of them were on the lines of what I thought. So I was like, okay but if it's one of those ones hey man you're just trying to Netflix or shutter and chill or whatever the hell it's on and you just want to scare your girl or your guy or whatever not that's not the one yeah you're gonna piss somebody off you show you're gonna be more confused on what's happening than then being scared so like why are we looking at this dresser yeah why are we staring at these Legos for 10 years later these Legos for a seven minute shot and that's why I have haven't tried it yet because all of you guys

pretty much said the same thing it's a thinker you don't want to watch a movie where you just you hear dialogue but you don't really see anybody talking no I don't know man I'm going to have to be really stoned for that it won't be in my bottom 10 I can tell you that but to

be fair I I can see what he was trying to do and that I don't think I don't think when we get to the end of the year and we make our list. I don't think it'll be on either list. I understand what he was trying to do. Right.

Fairly said. But I will probably never watch it again. I won't buy it. You don't want to get the record. See, but that's the thing. That's the thing. I kind of have this thing where I try to own the movies that we review. Yes.

And Nez and I unfortunately reviewed it. So, Uh-oh. It might have to come to the collection at one point at a reasonable price. It's not going to be a first day. It's probably got to come in a box with some old-school Legos. That would be cool. Or that toy phone that was in it.

Yeah, right. That phone calls hell of bucks if you try to find it on you. Really? Yeah. Yeah, that shit went up in price just because of that movie. Seven of those when I was a kid. Whatever they did, they got a whole shit. load of buzz for this movie, so

Yeah. I'm giving that. I just got a movie that we didn't really care for. VHS viral? I know we didn't really dig on it on too much, but I just ended up getting it. I still got to watch the last two. We're going to get VHS 99

on Steelbook? Is that going to be on Steelbook? Walmart. Walmart's getting all the exclusive steel books now. They might as well. Shit. I haven't even seen it yet. I don't know. All right. You don't need to.

And our buddy, Mike Morin, posted a group of a meme of Jason in the group, and Alan Easterling replied with a receipt from the Thieves Guild. Please check out the poll in the Horror Returns group from Cameron Sullivan and post your answer. Favorite kind of subgenres. Come on, folks. Let's make this interesting. Yeah, come on, man. I mean, we got a listener that actually takes the time to fucking post.

I mean, half the time we don't take time to post in the group. And, you know, he's over here posting something. So I gave it an answer. You guys need to all jump in there and at least pick your favorite subgenre. Come on. Oh, there was one. Come on, everybody. Next time, pin it to the top so people could see it because I didn't see it either.

Yeah, I got a fun. I'm in there all the time. Mine was like those the subgenre of like making wishes, like the, I think he referred to it as the monkey paw dilemma. He didn't have a category for shitty pet cemetery remixes.

It was a poll. I think you can add it, Brian. It was a poll? Is that what you said it was? Yeah. Cameron Sullivan posted it. It's in the horror returns group. I know what. Like, when, what is the date? We'll look for it, man.

I'll send you the link. I'm scrolling through it. Let me see if I can find it and pin it to the top. That's what we need to do, man. And regarding a post of a new house versus a haunted house from Poultergeist O.D. Oh, Poultergeist O.D. I think he's a, I think he's a rapper. Oh, okay.

I thought it was a movie. That's what I'm supposed to be saying. Nikki Barnett says it has great bones. Ryan Stevens says it's not fun, but two fantastic outdoor spaces. And then, let's see, Mike Morin also posted first edition pre-orders coming soon. Synopsis, what if a global storm opened up a rift and time and space, allowing various monsters and madmen to interact. Go to Instagram.com

slash the Boneyard Collectibles. Check that out. It's a figure figure photography. Okay. Crossover. Star Wars with Halloween. I don't know. I mean, things like that type of thing.

Yeah. It's cool. Check it out. Hey, Mike does some cool shit. Regarding To be Tuesdays, Shark Side of the Moon commentary. Mike Bachelor says I have no idea what I'm doing. Shark

side of the moon. Tim Davis must be going nuts. Good name. Right now. It's right now. Since I know they listen, you guys should do that new one. It looks kind of shitty. It's a 2B original.

It's called Fuck Mary Kill. Oh. but then you have to do it. I'm looking to that now. All right. You chose to stick your dick in that. Go do it. All right.

Our show intro. Oh, Brian, you had a couple of Twitter feedbacks. Yeah, this one is on Twitter. It was about to raise by wolves. Going to Roku. Michelle Delgis said great show Can't wait to re-watch it And when I posted it, it got a lot of likes and retweets

So I guess people really liked the show I don't know, I kind of dropped off In the first season And then the second one is on Instagram I posted a meme It's one of those her-him And the her part is he's probably thinking about other girls and him why did I waste my time and money going to watch cheaper creepers

reborn in the theaters? What have I done? That was me. The last two I saw the theater. All four, really. And we got comments from horror goddess 423 saying she should leave him for that stunt. And Jamie Enfuego says better than three at least. Wait, what?

The new one was better than three? Oh, no. I'm sorry. Whoever. If you want to... The three was bad, but that was not as good as four. Four was garbage. If you want to message, Jamie and Flago, I believe he's part of the horror show

YouTube channel, so... Yeah, I agree with you. Some of the scenes that couldn't even just go outside and film, they had to green screen it. No, that one was terrible. That is bad. Took my $15. $15 Ouch

Yeah California prices man It was one of those One night Oh okay I got things They had that one night

For Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey And I thought it was on my AMCA list I'm like I'll check it out Fuck it And I says this is not applicable

I said 59 To go see it And I said Hell no No I'd rather I'd rather pay that For Winnie the Pooh

than Cheapest creepers Rebar Oh, ouch. That was like a $30 night. Fifteen to get in, popcorn, drink. The Woody the Poo-in wasn't awful. It just could have been so much better.

You know what? You saw it then? Yeah, we talked about it a couple weeks ago. Ah, yeah. Okay. I missed it. I kind of, well, you were here, left, so I don't know how you missed it. Thinking about the movie, I kind of had fun with it.

actually. It's not a great movie, but I kind of have... It's... It's out there. Out there. Oh, okay. Oh, boy. Well... Don't do it, boys and girls. I think I'd rather see Kill Her Goats after hearing you talk about that one. At least it has a payoff, unlike...

You also said Winnie the Poohs, she never got out of her swimsuit, right? Okay, don't rule for me. I want to see it. There's a loop or two in there. Yeah. Is there? Okay. Not as much as kill her. her ghosts. That movie is from start to finish.

Softcore porn. Come on, let's get going. A Cinemax type movie, late-night cinema-macks? It's called Skidimax, Lance, but yeah, let's move on. Why's yelling at me? Come on. Let's get it. All right. That's right.

Logos and intro comes from Steve Carlton. Be on the lookout for more great stuff from him. Our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani. and if you'd like to help the show, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. Like our new patron, who is it, Lance?

Legion Podcasts. Of course it is. And we'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount and for $5 or more a month. Also pick a commentary for a feature show. So whoever sent it from Legion, man, send us your picks. We'll make it happen.

I'll just say this real quick. Send us your picks quick, because when I make the skis schedule. Yeah. It's kind of hard going back. You just threw me off, Lance. What are you talking about Dick?

Especially not the whole Legion. Okay. The entire the entire tragedy of Legion podcast, Dick Picks, that'd be like a total bunch. Send your movie picks so I can put it on the schedule. But guess what?

Send your Dick. Oh, Dick, go, Lance. Yeah. Brian, they also get a commentary. Because remember, we got a 30-day contest going. Oh, and a dollar or more, remember?

For the next 23 more days. And for our future films. Well, that's our contest. Well, not, don't call the contest again. Yeah, it needs to move along. Jump on Patreon, and if you donate a dollar or more, we'll let you choose a commentary for us to talk over. So that ought to be fun.

you know, torture is however you want to. Mostly with dickpicks to Lance. Featured attractions. We got our fan-requested retrospective with Psycho and Psycho 2. This is the first time I've ever watched Psycho 2, by the way. Same here. Same here. What?

Same here. What kind of horror podcast is this? come on. But we'll start with the first one, the original OG Psycho. A Phoenix secretary embezzles $40,000, which was a lot back then, from her employer's client, goes on the run and checks into a remote hotel run by a young man under the domination of his mother. Director, of course, is Alfred Hitchcock, also known for rear window and vertigo.

writers are Joseph Stefano and Robert Block Although Janet Lee was not bothered By the filming of the famous shower scene Seeing it on film profoundly moved her She later remarked that it made her realize How vulnerable a woman was in the shower A man too To end her life

She always took bath Oh to the end of her life She always took baths Ah. In order to implicate viewers as fellow voyeurs, Sir Alfred Hitchcock used a 50-millimeter lens on his 35-millimeter camera. This gives the closest approximation to the human vision. In the scenes where Norman is spying on Marion, this effect is felt. Real quick, I had to look it up. $40,000 would be the equivalent of over $400,000 today. Holy shit. Inflation. I'll tell you what, man.

What a thing 80 years does? 80 years. We're 80 years removed from 1960. Wow. What the fuck? 60 years. That's insane. 80, 6. 60 years.

Yeah, it's got to be 60, dude. I was doing quick drunk man. Naz and I aren't that old. 60 years, my bad. 63 years. You're closer than I am. I was like, wait a minute. That doesn't sound right.

All right. So, 60 years ago, $40,000 is $400,000. Nez, what did you think about the original psycho? Oh, this movie's fucking awesome, man. I love it. The first time I had seen it, shout out to Channel 44, KBHK in Oakland, California, San Francisco, Bay Area, whatever we want to call it. That was the first time that I had heard of it and seen it. On Fridays and Sundays, they showed 8 o'clock movies. And it was a Friday night when I watched it. I remember hearing about it because my friend's mom, she was in the horror movies and everything.

And she was like, oh, you should watch this when it's really good. It's coming on tonight. So I sat there and watched it. I remember being bored with the beginning because I don't know. I was pretty young when I first seen it. But as I got older, and I just recently watched it not too long ago with my son because he wanted to see all these psycho movies. We went through the whole series, minus the TV shows. but um

base motel oh no there's four movies four movies or a remake and a TV series yeah uh remake it was pretty good i liked it uh what's his name

Gus Van Zand it was good um I wasn't buying what's his name there's uh Norman Bates though Vince farm yeah uh rest in peace uh was Anne Hache yep um

but this one was good I liked I mean now I'm older and I can appreciate it and everything. I love the cinematography. My favorite, favorite scene in it is when that one dude gets slashed in the face and he goes down the stairs. I liked what they did. Basically, he was just standing there and there was a screen behind him. That's what it looks like.

Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But I loved that scene. And it was pretty brutal the way Mrs. Bates came out and just slashed them in the face. And then he fell backwards. And then I don't know how many stairs that was. good balance all the way down those stairs until he fell and then she just started going to work and started stabbing him as a little kid watching that i was like oh my god this is awesome so but i loved everything that happened in it the ending was awesome when we see norman bates sitting there and then he

stares at the camera uh i thought that was really cool the whole reveal of uh him just being crazy and uh with his mom and everything i just i just loved it all um anthony perkins uh amazing actor. I love them in, I love them in all the cycle films, and I loved them in the black hole. If you guys, if it's Disney Plus, check out that movie. It's a highly underrated Walt Disney Sci-Fi film. If you got Disney Plus, it's on there. But yeah, I love this film. I think this was the very first Alfred Hitchcock. I have for Hitchcock film that I had seen. So then I started going watching all his other ones. Rear Window. No, no, I'm sorry. The Birds is probably my favorite out of his films. Yeah, it's a good one.

um but this film is awesome i love it i mean it to me it was more thriller type of thing suspense thriller but i mean just because you have a slash here i mean yeah but it this was this was i know but it wasn't it would not like to not like the next one but um but this one was really good it's an amazing amazing film i love it i have it in like many vhs DVD and Blu-ray now. I don't know if they ever did Steelbooks, because if they did, I'd have them. But I love this.

Awesome. Yeah. Grab mine real quick. There's a steelbook? Oh, man. There you go. I'm not going to look at them and buy it. I'll be right back.

I'm going to go grab mine. But awesome film, everyone. All right. Lance, what do you think? But we already covered this in the year-in-horror in 1960, so I won't I won't go into too much detail, but I mean, a couple of things that I noticed this time that we didn't talk about last time, just barring all the iconic scenes and twist and turns and, you know, main character or main protagonists being killed off more than halfway through the movie.

I really enjoyed the way that they wrapped the movie up because they kind of made it sort of like a mystery. Like, I thought at first that the private investigator was working for the bank. And then I thought, okay, well, maybe the private investigation was working for the millionaire. And then you find out he was actually working for the sister of the lady who stole the money and got killed. So I thought that was an interesting twist. But yeah, this was like the original, you know, Votivist type movie where you don't really see what's coming. Extremely well written based on a great novel. That's all I'll say about it.

Did you get the 4K one? Okay. Oh, did you find it? Now we're talking. Now we're talking steel book. Did you get the 4K one, the Best Buy one? Yeah, I can't find it. I would have to pull out a bunch of stuff.

It's the black cover with the knife and her face in it, that one? I have two different steel books. There's that one, then there's the pink, pink-looking one with the house and the drain. Yeah, both. And then there's a third one. It's like the old movie poster on the front. And right now it looks like that's the cheapest one because I am not. I might have three now.

I'm thinking about it. I don't know why. I am not paying the $70 for the 4K1 because it's a... You guys have a propulsion, man. It's a kind of print. I think Brian already has it. He probably bought it when it was cheaper. If you, if it's a movie I own, you have, you really have to get me with the artwork.

That makes sense. What would you think about the movie? Oh, I loved it. I got introduced to Hitchcock through watching the TV series, Alfred Hitchcock Presents. Oh, that's true. And then my dad was like, saw that I like to show and he was like, he ever seen Psycho?

And I was like, what's Psycho? And then he showed me, or first he told me about it. And I was like, oh, I didn't recognize what he was talking about from the shower scene. So he showed me the movie. And at the time when I was young, I was a little bit bored with the beginning, the setup. But now I love the setup. the inner dialogue she has going through her head. Just, you know, I'm not going to get caught.

You know, creating the conversation of the cop and the car salesman and what they're saying. Like, you know, how would she know what they're saying? You know, she's creating it all in her head. The whole buildup to what actually happens in the shower. I kind of wish I would have seen it with adult eyes now because I would have been more shocked because as a young kid I didn't understand I would have

if I would have seen this now I would have thought Marion Crane was the main character of the movie and she is not the main character she gets killed off super early and I just like that

bold choice I made for that movie kind of I'm sure the crowd back then was kind of like what the fuck we've been following this lady this whole time and she gets killed and then the whole stuff with Norman

and that is my favorite scene too as the guy that gets slash across the face and he's you know like oh oh down the stairs yeah and one scene that really bothered me just throw in there real quick I love

the movie but one scene bothered me up until this rewatch was when he comes at Lila at the end and he's dressed as his mother and then what's his name Sam grabs him and he's not able to fight Sam off

always bothered me did it the only thing that the only thing that bothered me was the voice the mother's voice it you could tell it was a different it was an actual actress you know well that kind of added to it because she was supposed to be a different person

than he was but now the whole scene doesn't bother me now because maybe he's not able to fight Sam off because that's not Sam that's his mother and maybe she's not as strong as Norman would have been because if he's taken on this complete

if he's really taking on the personality yeah I got you I like the voice the voice of Mrs. Bates which was cool because if it was Anthony Perkins, Norman Bates doing the voice they would you know that's him so I like

I like that would have been realistic though come on the wind of this well but it's what he hears in his head yeah so but I liked I liked that they back then they tried to throw everyone off that hadn't seen the film obviously when everyone saw the film then they spoiled it to

everyone else yeah so but I mean I liked that they did it that way yeah I like the voice too I just it just added a different layer to what was going on in his head just that whole dialogue at the end when she's like I'm not even going to

squat this flyaway. I'm just going to sit here and let them think that, you know, not let them think that it's me at all. And then that slow look up to the camera with that smile. Classic. It took 23 years, but eventually

that paid off. He had him convinced that he wouldn't hear her to fly, but it took 23 years. Well, Hitchcock, man, Master of Suspense. And this is definitely my favorite movie from I am. I think it still holds up after 60 years.

And I got the number right this time. And yeah, the beginning part is a little slow, which is really the only reason I didn't show my kids this movie. Because I don't think they'd hang in there through the black and white build up. They might. They might. It has, I doubt it. that has that has really nothing to do with

you know the action that comes later I enjoy it now as an adult but yeah younger me looking back at it the beginning the first half of this movie was always kind of boring to me but I definitely appreciate it now and

man really fantastic movie like you compare this with some of the shit that comes out in 1960 and it's not even close. You know, like, that's, that's always sort of my go-to, you know, like we look at special effects on, you know,

90s movies and we're like, well, that's when Jurassic Park came out. So. I know. I know. So where's the excuse this, right? Yeah. And, you know, we look at some movies from the 60s and we're like, well, it was from the 60s. Well, so was psycho, but it was fucking amazing.

so there's that this was a lot better than the other movie we covered in the year of 1960 Brian remember peeping Tom oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

this was definitely a a solid fucking movie man let's do scores nez what do you think I go nine I love it I mean don't get me wrong but it was I don't know, maybe because

I don't know. The other films came out. We'll get into the next one. But yeah, nine. Best Hitchcock movie? No, the Birds was my favorite. Oh, that's right, the Birds. That's my second favorite.

Lance. I gave it 9.5 back when we did the year in horror in 1960. I think I'll stick with that, man. Yeah. I think the writing and I think the acting and the twist before twist were a thing really means a lot. Yeah.

And then, you know, having basically two separate movies where once the protagonist dies off, you've got a completely different cast of characters and a totally different trajectory of the story. So I'll stick with it, man. It's almost a 10. 9.5.

Really quick. To me, the reveal at the end when we finally see Norman come running in dressed up as a mom. Just the, the, the, the, the lighting of the shot and the look on his face, the expression to me just, oh, it just gave me chills.

Yeah. Yeah. That was creepy. He looks so happy. He looked so happy. Hey, did you notice when she was driving and her internal dialogue was going on? She just got this weird, creepy smile when she was, had the money and was driving.

It's like, what the fuck is going through this woman's point, man? She thought she got away with it until she was at the, the stoplight and her boss walked across her and was looking at her and smiled and then he was like, wait a minute. Why aren't she supposed to be home sick? Right? I mean, imagine if you're driving

with $400,000 in your trunk. $400,000. These old movies like this, especially the way they film, I mean, even on sitcoms and I mean, with the scene behind you and them driving going.

Nobody drives like that. They still do that on Saturday night long. I like it. I like it was like this, but the background is moving so slow. Yeah, right. Have you really tried to drive like that? You're getting pulled over immediately.

Yeah. Well, it's a movie, man. It's a 1960 movie folks. Well, they didn't have everything. Oh, no. Brian. I have to give it a nine. It's not 100% perfect to me, but it is a classic. And if I had to rank it in my,

Alfred Hitchcock, I will go birds, rear window, and then, Psycho. I'd go psycho, then rear window, then I go rear window, psycho, and then the birds. And then Vertigo. Yeah, Vertigo.

I wasn't a huge fan. I really thought I'd like it a lot more than it. Maybe the remake will get me. Maybe we can cover it for the show, Brian. What does it count? Isn't Dane DeHaan? in the remit. They might as well, man.

Yeah, they cast him and then they canceled the project. I'm going to go Psycho Birds rear window. And I'm going to give this one a 10. I think it's a damn. Perfect movie. About as perfect as it gets, man.

It's a pretty great horror movie. Always, always a great rewatch. Man. I almost wanted to deduct a couple of points, or not a couple of points, but maybe half a point for it being a little bit slow, but I kind of like that it's slow. You kind of needed that, though.

Yeah. All right. I think it works really well. I like that it was black and white. I love the effects. I love the suspense. The twist before it was a twist. This movie set things in motion that can no longer be undone.

I know I know I stepped away for a minute. Did anybody bring up the music? Because the music's iconic. No. No. Awesome. Yeah. That gets the 10. I made the sound to score. Take that into the Spider-Verse.

You're no longer our top-rated movie. I think this one. Well, we all gave Spider-Verse tens. I think we did. I can't wait for the fucking sequel. That's going to be amazing. That's going to be an IMAX movie. Is it going to be available in 3D NASD?

No. Probably. It should be. Everybody's seen the trailer, right? Yeah. Hell yeah. I like they did the point scene, but it was like with hundreds of Spider-Man?

You? Yes, I love it. I missed it seeing that first one in 3D. You're going to have a hard time making it as good as the first one, I think. I think they might get there, man. I think it'll be good, but I don't know if it's going to be as good as the first one.

But who knows? I could be wrong. Fair enough. I think at the least it'll be just as good. Oh, strong words. Hopefully. We'll see. 1983.

Psycho 2, 1983. After 22 years of psychiatric care, Norman Bates, attempts to return to a life of solitude. But the specters of his crimes and his mother continue to haunt him. Director is Richard Franklin, also known for Road Games and Beastmaster. Cloak and dagger. Yep. Lest we forget. The original showerhead used. in Psycho was supposed to have been used in this film as well. However, just before filming was to commence, someone stole it.

And then it sold it on eBay. Probably. In 1980s. Actor Anthony Perkins was given an audio cassette tape of the opening title theme by composer Jerry Goldsmith. The music allegedly brought Perkins to tears. Well, I mean, that was part of a big moment in his life. heard it years later, the original copy of it. Yeah, that's true.

Power of music. All right. Nez, what do you think about Psycho 2? Oh, this is my favorite one out of the four films. No shit. Better than the original four with Anthony Perkins, minus the

Vanzan one. But man, this movie was awesome. I mean, I know I was hyped up for it when it came out. We saw it at the drive-in. I can't remember what the second movie. he was, but I was ready for it. Because, I mean, the way the first one ended, and it was such a long time ago, what, 22 years

before? Yeah, long time for a sequel. Yeah, so when it came out, I mean, I remember seeing the trailer and going, whoa, we're getting another one? And then, when this, when they announced this one to come out, then it started with the reruns a little more frequently with the first film. So, but when I came out and saw it, I fucking love this film. The beginning was awesome, how it was black and wide, then it rolled into color.

I love the ending the way it ended. Another twist, and we're like, why I blew my mind? And what's her name? Meg Tilly. Jennifer Tilly's sister. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody that was in it was awesome.

Even Robert, was it, Lozier. Loja, him. He's badass in everything. Oh, yeah, he shows up in everything. Yeah, I love it. When he pops up and he's all sleazy. and everything. Man, this movie was awesome.

I loved it. I still love it today. Like I said, this is my favorite one out of the series. I'm glad Scream Factory did this one because they did, and they didn't really fill it up with extras, but they put in enough. From what I understood, they wanted this one to be more of a, well, this is 80s, so that slasher films were coming up.

They wanted it to be a slasher. from what I understood Anthony Perkins didn't want it to be like I guess it was going to be worse than than what it was with the violent Or violent? Okay I would have liked to have seen that But he really

He really kind of told him no it doesn't need to be like that That's not that kind of franchise right But that that's what the studio was pushing No man you need to put this in it more in it And I think what they did put in it was was pretty graphic for 1983 I loved it. The scenes, the death scenes and everything and what was happening, I thought that was really cool.

And just Anthony Perkins in a whole did an amazing film. And I loved how Lila and her mom were trying to make Norman go nuts after he came out. And what they were doing, torturing him basically through the whole movie. I mean, and he, well, I guess he did slip up or flip out at the end. It was good. I loved what they were doing and what was going on. And I loved Meg Tilly and how she was with her mom on what they were trying to do to Norman. And then she kind of turned after she got to know Norman and saying that, no, he's a good guy.

And she's like, no, no, he killed your aunt. No, hell no. He's got to be blocked away. It was awesome. I loved everything about this film. And the very, very last scene that we see on the screen is the poster when he's standing on the stairs. looking up at his mom. I was like, oh, man, this was an amazing film. I know a lot of people didn't care for the ones,

the next three films after the first one, but I love this one. This is like, out of psycho films, like I said, this is my number one favorite out of all, the original four films. Yeah, the cycle jeezed fucking awesome. Better than Hitchcock. Lance, what did you think? I enjoyed it, man. I think it was It was cleverly written. The gaslighting that the mom and the daughter were doing

that she didn't realize they were doing until we were halfway into the movie was a good twist. The way that he kind of won over, you know, Meg Tilly's character, and she kind of like, you know, started to believe in him and believe that he really was cured. The fact that you really didn't know,

like, beginning, like early in the movie, there's a scene where he goes back into the house, and his mind replays a scene from when he was, kid and his mom was like yelling at him and stuff like that and the the poison tea shenanigans and that type of thing and and and that that was pretty uh that was pretty graphic as far as making you see what was going on inside norman's mind so i thought that was well done plots plot twists were interesting i definitely thought loggia was involved in it at one point until you know he got his, which is

eerily similar to the guy that fell down the stairs the way that they did that setup. But yeah, I mean, it was a nice, clever movie. It was well done. I wouldn't say that it was as perfectly shot as the original one, Ness. I mean, I

see what you're getting at, you know, and it's got that 1983 vibe. And there were definitely more kills in this one, a little bit more excitement. It started off with more action, more it it was a lot faster paced yeah the original movie flowed a little better um yeah yeah i'm trying to think of something to fault with it

there's really not a whole lot i could come up with default i mean yeah i mean was it a little bit did they kind of what do they call it retcon when they they sort of have an idea from the original person that writes the the original script and does the first film and then they kind of make a flip or a change in the second one, that when you look back at it, you're like, well, does it fit with that narrative or doesn't it? And it kind of does, but it kind of didn't come up in that. That sort of took me out a little bit,

but I can't say a whole lot of bad things about the movie. I definitely enjoyed it, man. I like the twist and turns. So, liked all the characters, and there's no, there's no way you can diss the acting in this movie. Everybody did their job.

Oh, yeah. Are you talking about the, end when his like real mother pops up yeah i thought that was kind of eh yeah they really like it like a like a cheap cheap way to do it right i like what they did there i like what they do really quick i like what they did there but they really didn't go into it more with the with the next the next two films they kind of just oh it was that don't spoil it don't spoil it man no i'm just saying no i'm just saying i mean the the next two are good but i'm just saying they kind of left you off like, oh, cool.

But then we're going to tell you this other story. That's the only thing that kind of bothered me when they brought that in and that he had a different mother and was adopted or whatever. Come on, man. But other than, I had a fun time watching the movie. But it helped with what was going on in it, between Lila and her mom. It kind of helped to that because there was times where they were unsure. This movie reminds me of onions and onions.

lagers, layers. You know what I mean? And another, I mean, they tried to throw the audience off too. They tried to throw the audience off too. Because you got the mom and the daughter going, well, I didn't do it. I thought you did it. And then they're like, no, no. And then they get the audience thinking, well, maybe it was Norman.

And it also helped with the scene when the mother and daughter, Lila and Mary, arguing at the hotel. And the front desk guy is over here. and yes that's not that was a very that was a particularly nosy front desk guy Brian well I mean

he was like probably he was he was like my wife when we go to Bourbon Street or something I was going to say he did a lot less than I would have been doing I probably would have been over there like rearranging something next to them dusting off the fake flowers right

all right Brian what did you think this is by far the most underrated sequel there is out there not enough people talk about it I think this movie is just as good as the original one yeah um I do see what you guys are saying about the end but I think it just kind of added to the

who did it who's doing it aspect of the movie um I think I thought the acting was phenomenal in it uh for for him to come back over 20 years later to do this character again. He didn't really miss a beat to me. To me, he kind of added to the character, you know, playing this guy that's been put away for over 20 years

and he gets released. Yeah. I totally bought into it, man, that he was Norman Bates all the way. The kills, I thought were, for them not to hold back a little bit, I thought they were pretty fucking good. We talked about Robert Loja. kind of a call back to the original one with the

private eye getting killed at the stairs except they made it a little bit more gruesome where he gets accidentally stabbed falls down stairs and for his more luck it pushes the knife in even more he just landed right on it Lila Luma's getting the

knife right down the throat yeah that was my favorite kill even uh what's his name of the piece of shit guy, Mr. Toomey, the sleazy guy. He just gets slashed across his face. I thought that was a good. I thought that was a great. There he is. That's a great character, man. I thought that was a great effect with him getting slashed across the face.

That's what I liked how. I like the look on his face. The look on his face when he spins around and it was a close-up shot and his mouth drops and a damn sticker in his mouth. I think he didn't remember. That was cool. I'm sorry he had a singer. Yeah, he's always the same sleaze ball and everything. Even the kill when he finally

meets his mother and she's telling him how basically she abandoned him, but after finding out what they were doing to her baby boy, and he just loses it. Even her, him hitting over the head with the shovel, that was brutal too. That was brutal, she's laying on the floor, you know,

convulsing and... Well, she also has murdered a bunch people, so... It really hit her. I guess she had something back there, but they really think he really did get her. It looked like it. And two things. Okay. The sandwiches, man.

He made me feel like Billy Bob Thorne. Oh, milk and sandwiches. I was like, what is with this guy in sandwiches? I'll make some sandwiches. We spent the last 20 years in a fucking insane asylum. And then the teenager, the teenagers that snuck in the attic, my boy. that's that's not how you fill up a girl her moving's not way up here

but I love how they had they've done it before yeah they had the little tucked away sleeping bag and they just rolled it out yeah yeah yeah just roll it out come on young young ladies you guys are better than that man don't go with some kid in some basement

don't break into someone's house to go do it in the basement or a dirty dusty sleeping bag if he'd come from prison philippe he would have mix ramen with everything. Am I right? That's it. You should have had that instead of the sandwiches. He uses a big butcher knife. He'd come out of jail.

Yeah, and then not only that, he had a big butcher knife, but he's like pressing down super hard on a sandwich, cutting it. Of course. The damn handprings in the sandwich now. All right, that's all I got to say. All right. Yeah, man.

I had heard a lot of people say that this one was, or I have heard, I guess would be the more correct English way to say that, that this was their favorite of the series. And I can kind of understand why, man. It was a little more mainstream than Psycho would have been, you know, because that sort of seems like a... I mean, I know it's Hitchcock and it's giant. but it was more of a like a like a fucking say that again project you know

let me hold on let me let me timestamp that it's a giant what philip giant hitchcock yeah but yeah you know it was it seemed like more of a passion

project from hitchcock right like he was every scene had to be exactly the way that he wanted it and this one seemed more like a like a real movie that we Like a movie. You know what I mean?

And so it did maybe flow a little better. Definitely not as much suspense, but the action kept going. And it did sort of keep you guessing the whole time. Although halfway through the movie, I was thinking that the girls were the ones that were doing the murders. I did too. To which I was like. And then I thought Lodgya was. So they did their job.

They kept me getting. But I was like, why would the girls murder these fucking random people instead of just, you know, murdering the guy that they're trying to drive crazy? Yeah. But that's why they were thinking. Yeah, they were setting them up. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think that adding the storyline with the real mother kind of helped it out because it did. Because now you're thinking it wasn't Norman, it was Mary and Lila.

But then it wasn't really Mary and Lila. It was this other lady. Sure. Because you thought he was not really talking to anybody on the phone. Yeah. But he really was talking to someone on the phone. Yeah. It tied it together, but it sort of felt like it tied it tied it together with like a muguffin.

You know? Yeah. They're just like, how do we fix this? He has a real mother. Yeah. To me, I think the main reason they made this was because of the whole slasher kick was going strong in the 80s. And they wanted to continue. Hey, we need to put one out too.

Hey, let's go back to the well. We got psycho. Let's make another one. And I thought she did. It wasn't like typical slasher stuff, you know? Like, I don't know. Maybe it would have been cooler with a little more core. Like I said, I really liked the kill where it went through her face.

That was kind of awesome at the end there. And then I did like the way that they ended it. They tied it together without leaving too many plot holes. That was pretty grapicky. Yeah. The part that really made me just, ah, was when Norman, when Lila was just like, totally convinced that Norman was nuts. And he was coming at her. Yeah.

And she was holding that, holding the knife. And he grabbed it with both hands. Yeah. And she just pulled it out. I went, ah. Yeah. You could feel that, huh? Yeah.

Well, he had kind of lost it at that point, I think. Yeah, he was pretty far gone then. But yeah, I think they did a great. Anthony Perkins was phenomenal, and he really sold the whole movie. And yeah, Meg Tilly was pretty great, too. All the acting was really good, man. They definitely sold this movie. It was definitely the most underrated sequel, especially since I'd never seen it before.

It was a fun watch. And she is cute as a button. I do kind of have to wonder would she, you know, trust going to live with somebody like that and like why the manager at the deli didn't like, wait a minute, something weird's going on here.

Oh, by the way, he killed a bunch of people. So maybe that's a bad idea. Yeah, but it was a different time. Yeah, but. Just fighting with her boyfriend. Yeah. It makes you think why she would even go stay there, but then when you find out what the plan is

with the mother. It makes perfect sense then. I'm just saying the people around. I'm thinking the people around like the guy that ran the deli should have been more like... That guy didn't give a shit. He needed help in the kitchen. He needed somebody to read the orders to him while he could. And did you notice

all the cards of cigarettes they had stacked up above the oven? I guess they sell cigarette packs out of the in the, it's the 80s, a different time. Right? Yeah, that's when you could smoke in the A little grease-in-diner. Well, the IRS's name walked in when he was talking shit. Toomey.

He was smoking a cigarette leaning over to the county. He looked like a Winston guy. Why did they even let him out? He, like, murdered a shitload of people. He didn't murder anybody. His mother did. Yeah. Yes.

Oh. What? Crazy. He's cured. He's cured. It's curious. It's 83. No, listen.

You're going to lock somebody away for some shit like that. You can't let them back out on the street because that's what happens. The budget for this one was $5 million and it boxed off us $34.7 million. That's why there's more secrets. They made their money back. I think we're going to get a psycho three. Maybe scores. Nez, what do you think?

Oh, this is a 10 all the way. Ten. I love this. This one's amazing. I love it. Yeah, hell of good. Lance?

It's an eight. It's an eight. It's a damn good movie, man. Damn good movie. I love the plot twist. I love Meg Tilly. I loved all of the acting was phenomenal. And, you know, really nothing was too silly.

Again, the only thing that made it less than what it could have been for me was the fact that they, now they're bringing in, you know, a real biological mother. and that threw me off a little bit. But other than that, it's a good solidate. Brian? What I give, Psycho a 9? Yep. I give this a 9.5.

I love it. I love it more than I love the original. I've seen it more times. I thought Anthony Perkins coming back. Take that Hitchcock. I thought he didn't miss a beat coming back. I love that they got Vera Miles back, you know, the same actress that played Lila Luma's,

brought her back and Matt Tilly was good. She did great. Robert Loja, of course you would think he was in on it because he's played so many of them type of characters before. So I kind of love the misdirect. I think that was on purpose. And I thought the deaths were good and I love the twist in it. And I stand by my word. This is the most underrated sequel out there. I think you're right on that, but I'm going to give it a nine. I don't think it was as good as the original because you're, it's hard to beat hitchcock but

wait until we get to the remake yeah it's good that's a liked it but Vince Vaughn I still making sandwiches uh through holes doing extra but no man this this one was really solid and it was it was

it was more of a fun movie yeah agreed yeah for sure so I'll get all right Give the devil it's due. Okay, so it's getting late, guys. So as always, we want to thank you all for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

You can find us at www.com or reach us at thehorror returns at gmail.com. Please consider becoming a Patreon patron. If you like what you hear, rate us and review us on iTunes or whatever you listen to. And I think we get 23 more days on that Patreon contest. if you just simply give a dollar or more. You can not only pick three movies for us to cover, but a film for us to do a commentary. So we might get really busy here.

Can I get a dollar? NAS and Brian, what can we expect with wrestling, guys? Wrestling returns coming with WrestleMania 39. Action. We got to draw Revenge of the Ninja. Then Ninja 3, the domination after. Somebody meets you to the punch. somebody covered it last week

What about 20 inches? No disrespect to them. I'm sure they did a good job, but come over here. You want a full breakdown to Ninja 3, the domination. Stream fiends, we got set it off coming too. All right. All right, Nez. Anything else coming up on back, Nez?

I got an episode of him to drop. Brian and I are going to cover a clown motel. The movie came out 2019, I believe. and we're going to talk about my experience there and I'm going to drop also in that episode the interview with Christopher. I didn't get his last name. Yeah, that's coming.

Magnez, I got an episode just kind of my wrap-up of going back to Arizona. Amazing, amazing. My grandmother, she's going to be on the show. So got a little, small little interview with her. I had to do a lot of yelling. She's 96, so I had to yell for some of it. She gets some ghost stories in there?

No, more than just family history. She told her. She'd tell you stop yelling at her? No, no. Yeah, well, I was sitting right next to her. No, she told me some things that I didn't know about our family. I mean, nothing mad, but just like, wait, what, really? So it was that type of stuff.

Hey, at least you remembers, man. I can't really talk to your group. It's too much anymore. So the listeners will be learning things about you and your family. along with you, basically. Yeah. Yeah, the stuff, some of it, it's only like a few minutes, and it's not very long.

At East Society, we were supposed to record an episode tonight, but I don't think that's happening. I got to get in there and put those kids to bed. But yeah, just go over to Podbean search Magnazzo, E Society, and listen to all the nonsense we got over there. And then shoot on over

to, what the fuck is it called now? It's not anchor anymore. It's Spotify for podcasters. I don't know why they're calling. at that. But yeah, our link to all that is in our show notes for East Society. Just go click over there and listen to everything over

there. Yeah, and that's it. Follow us on Instagram, East Society podcast, Magnus Pod, TikTok, same thing. Yeah, buy a T-shirt. Shout out to whoever bought a Magnus T-shirt. Someone bought it. I don't know who buys these things. I just say, hey, you got a notification. Someone bought a shirt. Right on. You forgot the other two. Pick up the

other two East Society ones as well. Speaking of T-shirts, I need to get a horror returns one before we go down there before I come down there so yeah make go look it up www. www.horror returns.com buy a t-shirt they're awesome yep I need one yep so Brian are we I got some disturbing news from Bede in Australia that Renfield 8 has been pushed back there are same here are we still covering it I've not heard anything about it but we're different country so I know they go these differently all right unless we're licensing sometimes

If there's a change, I will let everybody know. I always have backup shows playing. Oh, yes, you do. All right. Speaking of a beat, check out Beed versus the Living Dead. All his episodes are awesome. Check those out. Shout out to Beed and.

Big time. Yeah. All right. So if all goes to plan, it's Renfield and the original Dracula next week. So Kevin, until the horror returns again, the black and white Dracula? 1931

Bella Legosi Oh okay Someone needs to do the Is it 80s or I think it's 70 70 something Late 70 something I know the one you're talking about The hammer

No Count Duke No That's the hammer one right Franklin Jella Is that it? Yeah That's right

Franklin Jella Okay Yeah we need to do that one at some point. We'll do that one. Yeah, I love that movie anyway. But yeah, come back next week for more. So until then, good night.