The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #364: Mother’s Day Horror - Mama (2013) & The Babadook (2014)

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

This week, we celebrate Mothers Day the only way we know how. Cool of the Week includes Clock, Oblivion, and Sweet Tooth. Trailers are Run Rabbit Run and The Meg 2: The Trench. The podcast spotlight shines on Keep it Weird. And we get feedback from Lyle Huckins, Mike J Marin, Student of the Game, and Chad Lab. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify goal, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me, as always,

are my co-host, The Terrible Two. It's the return of Brutal Brian and fabulous Phil. What's going on, guys? I thought we changed that. Well, you got the took. You're still rocking the took. Phil's got the Astros cap on. Just for Steve. Champion Phil?

I know how big of a fanny is. See, there's no illiterate. I can't say champion, Phil. There's no alliteration. Fuck. Fucking Phil. I don't know, dude. Help me out. I'm dying here. God damn it. So you're wearing the hat.

Fabulous if I want to. You're wearing the hat for who, man? Just for Steve. I know how big of a fan he is. Ah, Steve, Steve Carlton? Yeah. Of the geeks? That's Steve Carlton?

That's the one. He hasn't confirmed that he's a fan, but he also hasn't denied he's a fan either. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure he is. That's all you need to know. You guys ready to jump into cool? Oh, hold on. I checked out of kind of a cool of the week, Brian, but it was a show called Fuck. Fuck, that's delicious.

Have you guys ever heard of it? I've watched every season. So they're in... They're in Anchorage. Brian, what the fuck are you bitching about, dude? That place is goddamn gorgeous, man. I've never bitched about the way my city looks of just the people. And the cold. The cold, right?

You've heard of Action Brunson, the rapper. Yeah. Yeah, this is a food show. It's called Fuck, That's Delicious. That sounds like a great idea. It is so much fun. It is so fucking awesome, dude. And I've been to that restaurant, the restaurant where his friends go, but he couldn't go because he got sick.

The steakhouse? I've been to that restaurant. It's very good. I hope you brought your wallet, man. That place is like fucking hell expensive. If you want to go there for the cheap, just go. They got this appetizer called The Tower. It's just like a variety of different app.

just get that and then just have some drinks with friends and you'll be you'll be good. And you can say you were there. Yeah. But I do recommend having dinner there. It's very good. All right. So are we going to continue food talk or you want to jump into Cool of the Week? We can, I don't know, the food returns.

We can change the show format. But I'll go first. I didn't get a whole lot in this week. Got a new puppy, so been on puppy. duty. Well, that's a cool of the week. Yeah. It is a cool of the week. Not today, because to make sure I

have a clear connection with you guys so you guys can hear my wonderful voice, I hardwire every time. I plug up to the internet and this little fucker chewed out of my cord, I just noticed it today. I had a feeling he might have done it,

but then he hit me with that face, and I was like, okay, you're a good boy. I plan guts for today and conveniently chewed the part that I needed to plug in with. Great. Of course. Yeah. At a rock pilot that used to eat rocks, man.

Literally? Yeah. Like we had a little fountain with a bunch of the little smooth rocks in it. One day it was knocked over and all the little rocks were gone. And I only found out later on where they went. I'm sure you did. Clean it up for days, right? let's see

I did get a couple action movies in actions return is going to come back soon we just been on a little hiatus but I checked out I noticed he had a new movie coming out because I just read recently that Dolph Lundren just announced

he has cancer so I kind of saw that he had entirely sure that he was still alive to begin with well in this movie he might not have been alive

because he phoned it in in this movie. Oh, no. The best man. Starring him. And action star Luke Wilson. What? That Luke Wilson? Owen Wilson's brother.

Lulu Wilson? Oh, Luke Wilson. I hadn't seen him in a while either, actually. Yeah. I didn't know he was alive either. It's basically they are kind of like a mercenary team. you get introduced to them real quick in the beginning. They're rescuing someone that got kidnapped.

This rich guy had his daughter kidnapped. They rescue. Then you fast forward years later. Luke Wilson has actually started a relationship with the lady that he rescued and they're getting married. And some of the team members that got left behind are coming back to get revenge. And that's pretty much the plot. And they're trying to kill them at their wedding.

and Dol Flandron's in it, and he looks like he's had a few drinks. He looks like he's very tired. And some of the scenes, I'm almost positive that wasn't him doing the action scenes. So definitely I did a paycheck. I hope he turns into he man at the end. That would have been something. I just wanted him to wake. I mean, he's kind of playing the older mercenary kind of veteran guy.

he's, you know, drinks a lot. But as you're watching a movie, you're just like, he's really drinking through this fucking movie. A lot. It's called method acting. So I cannot recommend the best man. One that I really wanted

to recommend this week. Lance, I know you've seen it. Netflix is the mother. Or as I like to refer to it, the meh. They missed the mark so bad. Oh, did they ever, man.

This could have been like extraction. This could have been like a little secret hit. Oh, yeah, it's pretty bad. Pretty bad. She's not bad in it. It's just fucking long and boring. Yeah, great description. And then her daughter is fucking so annoying through this whole movie.

Like I'm just like, just kill her already. Yeah, I'm like somebody just kidnap her and take her away. So the movie's over. But I don't know. They could have cut a good 30 minutes of the whole. them getting to know each other aspect. They could have did a quick little montage of that. Sure.

Sorry about the dog was barking. They could have... Add to the ambiance, man. And I know she's, like, trained for other movies, so I know she can do action. They did that close-up shaky cam stuff. That was bad. For her, like, hand-to-hand stuff.

And I'm just like, you guys could have did some... It was shot good, the movie. Yeah, but Brian was just me, where there's some, a couple of scenes where like the edges of the camera were kind of like glazed over like it wasn't. Yeah, I thought there was a reason for that. I thought there was something wrong with my

I did do it first. I'm like, is this scene that's happening? Is it a dream or something or is it a memory? They did that quite a few times. You're right, Lance. I don't know. I guess it was a director's choice. I guess.

It made no sense. It just had the effect that somebody was having a flashback or something. Added nothing. But she, Jennifer Lopez did good. I just think they just, they try to make this instead of an action movie, they try to make it more of a drama. Yeah, too much, too much family drama,

not enough, bang, bang, right? And then they had Edie Falco, Carmela Soprano in the movie for like two minutes in the very beginning and then you don't have her in the bookie again. So what's the point? Can't record. You're right, Lance. That was the math of the week.

I mean, it wasn't horrible. Yeah, it definitely wasn't bad because I watched it too. That was going to be one of mine. And I felt the same way. It was just sort of, I mean, it wasn't bad, but it's easy on the eyes. It was kind of boring, you know, definitely. Well, yeah, still looks at me. And I got to bring massage and he cast back.

There was no ass shots at all. You got Jennifer Lopez. Let's pan the camera down just a little bit. I mean, I'm just saying, Lance. How do we try to get a lot in this movie? All right. That's done. But I guess I go with my cool of the week was this new Hulu original movie called Clock.

You guys heard of this one? Yeah. It's basically It's this couple The lady, she's kind of surrounded by everybody telling her You know, your Your clock's ticking, you know, you need to have baby now Her friends are having babies, you know

The father wants her to have children So he can have grandchildren And the husband kind of wants it But he's not pushing her And I think there's a reason she can't have babies or something So she kind of goes to this clinic. I'm doing

Air Cloat's Clinic where they're going to like special treatment on her. Witchcraft. And throughout the movie you don't, she kind of starts

hallucinating and seeing things and you don't know if it's just her or the treatment. Interesting. Okay. I thought it was a decent little thriller.

It's more thriller than horror. I mean, there's some stuff she sees that are kind of horrific. but it's more of a thriller, mystery. By the end, you kind of get clear cut. You know, was it her? Was it the treatment?

You know, was it both? Right. So it's a decent. It's a decent. If you're on Hulu and you want to watch something like that, I say it's worth checking out. Not this year's Fresh, though, right? Remember, Fresh came out pretty early in the year on Hulu last year?

It does. All right. But it does check off your cool of the week, though. Yeah, compared to the other two things I watched, too, definitely would have to be cool the week. Yeah. So I got a not cool, a meh, and a cool. Check in all the boxes.

I kind of do too, but mine are sort of old. I just sort of scroll through, and I'm like, yeah, well, there's classic. Let's check that out. So I've watched the mother. And, yeah, felt the same way. Man, the nether. And I was scrolling through and ran across Oblivion.

And so I checked that one out. Tom Cruise? Yeah, Tom Cruise. Oh, wow. I haven't seen that forever. A little slow and a little weird, but it was kind of a cool thing to watch in the middle of the night while everybody was asleep.

And then Europa report came on after that. And man, that movie's fucking boring. I haven't ever seen it. I think I have, but I've heard people talking about it. Yeah, dude, it's, I mean, it's like, they sort of film it like real astronaut stuff, but like nothing really happens. Right. What's the point? Yeah.

And I checked out inside, Lance. I know you mentioned that one with old Green Goblin himself. What's his name? Sure. Willem. Yeah. Willem Defoe. Willem DeFoe.

Yeah. Starring Willem and only Willem. Yeah, it was like his castaway. One man's show. What'd you think, man? I thought it was all right. It was probably a little long. Did it quite hit the cool of the week?

Itch, did it? Ish. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't bad. I just, when those situations pop up, I'm like, ah, it seems like he could have maybe tried something else. And he was. was like stuck in this apartment for I don't know how long but it seemed like a long fucking time right like there's got to be a way out at some point did he ever did he ever eat a shoe at any

at any point no he did not use okay then he wasn't in there he wasn't in there long enough then sustaining himself with with the garden yeah was he they had a garden in there yeah like one of those indoor, like, what do you call him? Oh, with the water and... Yeah, so with the irrigation, he was getting water.

Yeah, that's right. He still had stuff. He was just stuck in his own little private prison. I was like, man, there's got to be some kind of way out. I don't know what you're doing, but maybe try something other than the door. Yeah. He only tried the door over and over and over.

Yeah. It's like, I don't know the glass is bulletproof or whatever, but there's got a way to chip it away or something. A little at a time, right? Surely there was some heavy shit in there, wasn't there? Oh, yeah. Well, he stacked up to furniture and was unscrewing a ceiling pain to try to climb out that way. Yeah, that's like the last thing I'd try. Yeah, because that exit going up through the ceiling and kind of seemed like it would lead to death. Yeah. Like, there's no good outcome. Okay, well.

But still a pretty interesting movie. It was something different, which is always fun. And, you know, Willem to Phil. And is it streaming anywhere? Or you just found it through other means? No, where is it streaming? It's got to be streaming somewhere, right? Or Peacock or something?

Is that one also on the clock? That one might be on Peacock, too. All right. Taking a look here. where is inside streaming let's see not available on any of your streaming services it says so

it's on Peacock yeah it is okay Lance you said you watched it already didn't you that was Brian my bad that was Brian let me add let me add Peacock to my list here you guys go ahead I'm sorry I've got this just watch

app, but the problem is that the shit that I actually subscribe to, it keeps taking them off for some reason. So I've got to find a new app. You guys have any good suggestions? Tell you what streaming where? No.

I still got to watch Matt. I'm going to, I still got to watch Dungeons and Dragons. Ah, yes. I still haven't watched Avatar. I mean. Oh, I did it be much. I did, I did rewatch Evil Did Rise this week.

It's still good. I saw that on Facebook, I think, that you were doing that. Yeah. There's so much we didn't talk about, especially towards the end. Oh, I know. It was crazy. We were running along on that episode, and there was still. Yeah, I kept thinking about stuff after it was over.

I also checked out a Monster Squad. I can't remember which that was on. It was like Tubby or something, and it was just on, so we watched it. on YouTube. Yeah. It was, that's a fucking great movie, man. Wolfman's got Nards. Another thing I was going to that I didn't get to watch

but it's streaming on Prime now. It was Air. Oh, yes. It is on Prime. We were going to watch it, but we ran out of time last night. Yeah. I have a whole list of movies. I was kind of do like a whole biography type

movie thing with Air and the Tetris movie and the other one not Luke Wilson what's the other Owen Wilson what's that movie is in paint or he plays Bob Ross what? Yeah paint

Owen Wilson plays Bob Ross okay yeah because you know if you had to cast Bob Ross Owen Wilson pops and you had immediately. She's not bad I mean it didn't look horrible I saw the poster didn't look horrible I still want to check it out out there. Wow, it's a happy little treat.

Lance, what's your cool of the week? What was yours, Phil? I missed it, man. Was inside your cool of the week? Yeah, I guess as far as new movies go, but I enjoyed myself most in oblivion. Oblivion. Yeah. Okay. So let me make a note here. Philip falls into oblivion. There we go. happens on a pretty regular basis. All right. Yes. My cool of the week is to show that there was no way I was going to watch. And it's kind of got, it's on Netflix, Brian. It's kind of got some The Last of Us vibes.

I don't know if you guys, I'm trying to give some hints here. The Walking Dead? It's got some Walking Dead. It's got some Walking Dead. You're the Working Dead. Actually. Well, there's so many good shows about the Apocalypse. The thing is, I was really worried that this one was going to be like a total YA, young adult type shows. I'm like, ah, not really, don't think I'm going to be into it. And then AJ said, well, I watched the first season.

I think you'd love it. I'll rewatch it with you. And we had the granddaughter over the five-year-old was over all weekend, and she really got into it. But we started watching Sweet Tooth on Netflix. Oh, yeah. Okay. My kid is watching that. Yeah, it's really good, man.

Yeah, the geeks talked about it. They all said it was really good. It said it came out at the perfect time to put the subject matter. I was pleasantly surprised. It was, again, I thought it was going to be real kiddish. But it's not, man. It's got some young characters in it, but it's got characters of all ages in it. It's actually based on a Vertigo comic book series, which I just learned about.

Vertigo was like a DC offshoot that's got kind of like the more weird storytelling, more edgy stuff. But basically, you had me at Will Forte. I mean, he was in the first episode. And I'm like, I asked AJ, I said,

is that Will Forte? She said, yes, it is. Keep watching. But it's basically about these kids. It's like the end of the world type stuff, just like any of the shows you guys have just mentioned. But I guess the twist is that you've got these kids

that are born hybrid, where they're like half-kid, or half-human, half-animal. So you've got... Yeah, it's weird, dude. It's like, they kind of explain it, but they kind of don't. So I'm thinking maybe season two and three, they'll go into more.

They have said they're going to do exactly three seasons, which I like, so they're going to tell the entire story, but not go overboard. They're not going to Walking Dead it. So I'm enjoying it, man. The characters are relatable and a lot of fun to watch. There's great, scenes in it. There's like

just enough character development without going overboard making it like a child's show. I'll put it to this way. If a five-year-old and a 55-year-old both loved it equally, you know, that's a pretty wide swap there.

That's true. Pretty good sample size. We had a lot of fun. It's, what's his name put it out, Robert Downey Jr.? Are you kidding? So he had something to do with the production? Yeah, executive producer.

I think it's like through his production company. Well, you know what? If they keep it like this, like they've already, okay, so season two is out, just came out, and I love the way Netflix put some, where they're bingeable, where they put everything out at once, which I definitely appreciate that.

But if they've already said, we're going to wrap it up at season three, and that'll basically tie up the story. I'm like, yes, this I can go for. Yeah, definitely. They're not going to leave us hanging. So, yeah, Sweet Tooth, man. I recommend it very highly.

It's, again, it's another reason I wasn't going to watch this is because it's a little too much like The Last of Us, because they're, you know, you get certain characters trying to get from one place to another. But there's enough differences in it that it keeps it interesting and it's definitely worth to watch. So highly recommend Sweet Tooth. And it's suitable for all ages. You know, I mean, they got a couple of four-letter words, but it got a couple of even gory moment, but not overly gory. So it's definitely, it checks out, since that seems to be our theme side, it checks off a lot of boxes.

Put it that way. Okay. So that's the cool of the week. Brian, we got any headlines to talk about? Yep, and I wrote them in notes, so I don't have to fumble around looking for them. That's always good. Always preferable. The Winchester's, the prequel to Supernatural.

Okay. CW. Cancels it at one season. That's what easier, Philip, than what you had to go through for the original. Yeah, I was going to say, if you want to jump into the Winchesters, you're only got one season. Oh, yeah, I may as well. Actually, I started rewatching Supernatural because Izzy wanted to watch it and then. Okay.

Yeah, so we're, like, rolling on one for a season. good one to play in the background, especially if you've already watched it. I've been thinking about adding it to a list of shows I'll never finish, so. It's a cool show. And this is not anything to do with horror, but I read

that the CW is going to cut down the amount of episodes per season for their shows, which I think they should have did years ago. Very smart made. That makes sense. Very smart move. Let's see. This one came to surprise to some people I've come to find out

was I've never seen the show Netflix cancels the Supernatural show Lockwood & Co. After one season and I guess it had like a fan base. Never heard of it. I've heard of Lock and Key. Yeah, I did some looking. It has a fan base. A lot of people said it's very underrated show that Netflix never really

advertised or anything. Yeah. Okay. So it doesn't surprise me. Netflix. Okay. So I messaged you guys earlier in the week. Nobody responded to me. But I think as many shitty subparred movies as Netflix does, they tend to find good series.

That's true. For the most part, you know? Yeah. I never really got into what was the Korean one that was the ancient zombies or whatever? Kingdom. Yeah. I never got into that, but I've heard great things about that one. Ness was here,

yell at you right now. I've heard great things about dark, which is, I think, a Danish. Yeah, I started it. I just, again, it just went on to another list of those shows that never finished.

I think it was kind of slow, and then on top of that, it was subtitled. Yeah, that's a bad, that's a dangerous combo. Dangerous combo. Let's see.

More American Horror Story Season 12 casting. I'm going to butcher this name, Michael Gai Rodriguez, and I always say her last name wrong. Kara Delavine, Delavine. Ah, the really, really, really, really skinny one from the movie that Dane Dahan made famous

with this Keanu Reeves impression. She's another one where the eyes are too wide on her head. Yeah, she looks... She has that heroin body. She was in a movie of the movie? Yeah, the Valerian movie. Oh, that's right.

That's what started the whole Dane-Dahan thing, because I liked it, and you guys said he was just doing a four-man's Keanu Reeves the whole time? He was.

He even said, whoa. I got to admit, guys, I tapped out of American Horror Story, man. I haven't seen New York. I think I'm done.

I think they're walking dating that one, too. I tapped out of the New York season like two, three episodes in. It was boring. Like they tried to make it like true detective type

stuff. And I was like, that's not what I want to see in the American War store. Too many good shows on, you know, to have to fuck with that. Yeah. You know. Let's see.

More TV news. Sidney Chandler is set to star in Noah Holly's Alien series, which I think is about to go in production for FX. I mean, I'm all about Noah

Holly. And I can't think of his name, but she's the daughter of what's the actor, last name, Chandler? It's kind of an older guy. Big friends? No. No.

The guy's from... Pouscheon. Yeah, there you go. Okay. His daughter. Huh. Let's see. Birdbox, Barcelona.

I heard about that. July 14th, release date. Yeah, that snuck out of nowhere. I had never even heard of it. And then I saw a, like, a short, a short trailer for it on Netflix. What the fuck is this? The trailer was more like a announcement,

title announcement. Right, right, a teaser, so to speak. For what? Birdbox, Barcelona. Oh, okay. Because it didn't. Why not? Whatever happened in Birdbox happened worldwide.

So we're going to do a movie at Barcelona. As long as they have plenty of those good-looking Spanish women from Barcelona, I'm in. Because when A.J. and I went there for vacation, that was like one of my most memorable vacations ever as far as scenery goes. Sajony cast is back. Yes, it is. Let's see. Lance, you were asking about this. a couple weeks ago.

When are they going to do another season of Black Mirror? Yeah. Black Mirror, season 6 coming in June. Awesome. Striking Vipers Part 2 is the first one. You never know. It will be a five episode season. I'm only going to read the cast

Okay. I go for five episodes. I'm only going to read the ones that I recognize. Aaron Paul. Oh, nice. Josh Hardin. Kate Mara, Michael Sarah, Rob Delaney, Rory Colkin, Salma Hayek, Zazi Beats, Lance. Ah, man. So it's an American cast then.

So we're actually stealing something from the British, rather than the other way around, in entertainment for a change. That's a nice twist. Every episode they've done has kind of come true. I'm sort of not mad at them holding back a little bit. maybe. Trying to see what. Oh, I see what you see.

Yeah. But you do have to admit, since Netflix has kind of taken it over, they haven't been as good as the original seasons. Oh, yeah, not even close. But that could change this season. See, and that's, I don't...

Because, like, they had that one with, like, Miley Cyrus, and I'm like, right. Maybe we shouldn't have big stars in this show. You know? Well, I have. Yeah, fair enough. Maybe we just shouldn't have

Miley Cyrus. Well, that... I haven't... I haven't seen the new Guardians movie, which I've heard of some really good. Yeah. She did a cameo as a voice for a robot in the second one.

They did not bring her back to do that voice for the third one, I understand. Okay. Well, I don't know. I didn't really if she was in it. I'll probably talk about Guardians three. We're supposed to go, take the, take all the kids.

But I've heard another more good things about that one. Yeah. The worst thing I've heard is that it's dark. I heard it. I heard it's kind of a tear jerker. Yeah, they said it's like James Gunn's like goodbye to the MCU.

I got you. Well, long as he keeps doing peacemaker, we're happy. He'll be back with DC. Yeah. I'm, Fingers crossed, I hope he, whatever magic he worked with, Guardians and Peacemaker, he's able to do for D.C.

He's doing the Superman movie himself. With Nicholas Cage? You know, I heard, I heard a rumor. It's funny you brought it up. I heard a rumor that in the Flash, there's going to be a cameo of Nick Cage. You remember he was supposed to play Superman? You know what?

If they don't do that, they've missed out on the biggest opportunity of the decade. I heard it's a rumor that when he's kind of running through the speed force and all the different timelines are going by. Yes. That was supposed to see Nick Cage in the Superman scene. That would be amazing. I mean, come on. Let the man do it. He named his son after Superman.

Yeah, he said like I guess the two roles that he really wanted to play were Superman and Dracula. Yeah. He killed it on one of them. Yeah. It wasn't even supposed to be his movie, and he kind of stole the role. Let's see. Did you guys, everybody enjoyed the platform on Netflix? Very much so.

Yeah, it was in my top 10 that year. The second one is currently in production. The platform level two. It just kind of, they released some, set photos, I post them in the group. It just kind of looks like we're just going to follow two different characters, two new characters.

It's not a continuation or anything. They missed, I got a great idea for the sequel. I hear me out, man. The platform, but instead of food, it's drugs. All right? So the guys at the bottom are sober? The guys at the top jump into the cocaine

and bathe in it. So everybody on the top dies early. Yeah. You slowly work your way up and try to make it through the platform of drugs. Yes. Would that be great? I don't know how long that movie would be. This is that beard?

It gets really weird at the top, man. I'll bet. I'll bet. Let's see. We talked about a barbarian director, Zach Craigers, new horror movie is going to be tied to weapons. Yep. It's already cast its first actor.

Pedro Pascal. Oh, wow. Guys in everything. No shit. The guy that saves streaming platforms. Man, you can't go wrong with that casting. I'm going to pronounce this singer's name wrong. I'd ask my daughter how you say it, but I instantly, when she said it, my brain rejected it.

Lil Yaddy? No, I know Lil Yaddy. Charlie X-C-X-X. Oh, yeah. Okay, sure. joins the cast of the Faces of Death remake, which was kind of weird because the movie's already in production.

So. Doing a little extra. And a girl who's not an actor on top of it. So is he going to be the one that parachutes down into the alligator? Farm or what? Who? And the faces of death, dude. The original VHS tape we watched.

And they said, uh, it's the she. Oh, okay. Well, uh, hey, it's the 21st century. Now we can have a woman parachute into it. Yeah, I'm all for it. A woman can surely parachute to her death into an alligator pit. Except she's going to be wearing like a bikini or something. Oh, and I don't know if I ever talked about it.

It probably should have been part of my cool of the week. The Corridor crew on YouTube. They have a video series where they have stunt men and stunt women react. Then they have a different episode. They have a different stunt man or stunt women. They react to like stunt scenes and movies. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I never really thought about it.

The stunt women go through more shit than the stunt men, Because they, because women in movies are always in short sleeves, skirts, shorts. Good point. And they can't pat up like the men can. Trying to do stunts and heels probably is not easy. Aye. Yeah, that can be dangerous. Because I watched one, I think her name was Amy Johnston.

She was a stunt double for Scarlett Johansson for Civil War, not Civil War, the Winter Soldier. Right. And she said she was thankful for her having actual pants in the jacket because she can actually put the pads on underneath. But she did have to run in high-heel boots, though. Because, you know, everybody runs in high-hill boots. So more evidence. That in childbirth are both hard evidence that women are tougher than men. But yeah.

But yeah. It's like you just get. To get away from when you just run across the grass. Yeah. It makes no sense. Corridor crew on YouTube. They have a series where they have that series, and then they have effects artists come on,

and they look at good and bad CGI effects and movies, and they kind of break down how they did them. Pretty cool stuff. Might have to check that out. But there's a lot of CGI fire. Yeah. CGM fire, CGS smoke. Some in.

Water. Lance, when the C.GI fire happened in the mother, I thought of you. Yes. Yes. I was like, this has got to be inferiorating Lance right now. It's very CGI-ish. You are correct, sir. All right. This is good news to me. I don't know any of these actresses or actors. Madison Eastman, Aaron Dominguez, Antonio Desplant, and Charlie Tahan.

I'll join the cast, Witchboard remake. Good news to me. Hey, we also got these guys. Oh, Lord. Nez is going to ship a brick. He's probably rejected

all news of the remake. I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine. To him, that's like remaking Jaws or The Exorcist. His name's, I can't think of his name, Chuck Russell. who did the blob

and DreamWords. Oh, those were both fucking awesome. He's doing the Witchboard remake. It actually might be good. It might be good. No kidding. It can't be any worse to that piece of shit. I just made Ness mad some.

I know. Let's see. Scarlett Johansson is set to star Disney's Tower of Terror directed by Tyco a Watiti. I feel like they've been making this movie for like 25 years. Yeah.

I think you're right, Phil. I think they just recently just attached these people to it. Yikes. I know. We'll be there. I'll take the kids. I'll take the kids. The ride is fun. We rode the ride at Hollywood Studios.

Let's see. Dan Stevens and Kevin Duran, Duran, not Duran. Not Duran. I have joined the cast of Radio Silence's Untitled Universal Monsters movie. We talked about it a couple weeks ago that they were directing a Universal

Monster movie. And we don't know what monster yet. Still untitled. Interesting. Is Jenna Ortega in it by any chance? This is only the casting, but as much as they work with her, I can see, but she's, she's going to be shocked. She's going to be fucking busy.

Yeah. Because the last little piece of news is she is confirmed to be in Beetlejuice 2. Yes, I saw the teaser poster. Also joining the cast is Justin Thoreau. He's good. Okay. Ah, there you go. Willem DeFoe again, Philip.

And a very, very beautiful Monica Balucci. Okay. It's a great cast. I heard she's playing Beetlejuice's wife. Mrs. Beetlejuice. Why not? I know I'm doing it a lot, but I'm going to bring misogyny cast back one more time.

You guys remember she was in the latex outfit in the Matrix? Yes. Yeah. She is a beautiful one. All right. She makes perfect sense in the casting of this movie. And she's like, not that it's anything, like, important or anything, but she's like, isn't she like 60 or something like that? Yeah, she's up there.

No. She's just, she's got to be like in her 50s or 60s. Are you fucking kidding me? I'm pretty sure she's 60. I got to look it up. Oh, my God. Somebody might be calling me a liar right now. Hmm.

And she was just recent, not too recently. but wasn't she a bond girl in one of the Daniel Craig movies? Probably. Yeah, that would make sense. That would make sense. So should we play that Jeopardy music, Philip, right here while we're waiting? Well, I hate J-Lo's in her 50. She's still killing it.

Yeah. Yeah, she's not a spring chicken, is she? No. None of us are anymore. Monica Balucci is 58 years old. 58. okay well I'm 55

so I can't talk yeah you still look good Lance thank you very much not Monica but luci good

no let's not go crazy here but yeah I'm I'm more excited I wasn't really excited about Beetlejuice too because it's been like

over 30 years but with everybody joining the cast and Jenna Ortega Tim Burton coming back. It's a classic. And that was in my, okay, so I remember, I saw Beetle juice at the theater, the original Tim Burton Batman at the theater,

and they live at the theater all while tripping on acid. That was like my college days when I had a lot of spare time to do acid. And I can tell you, Beetlejuice still holds up, but it's not, Kind of like the old, what was that old John Stewart? Was it John Stewart that, have you ever seen Beetle Juice? Oh, have you ever seen Beetle Juice on weed? And we're getting Beetle Juice sooner than we think. Already has a release date, September 6th, 2024.

Huh. Okay. Right around the corner. They are. They are. After years of nothing moving forward on the sequel, they are all. all in all in on this one

now so yeah let's not let's not get another COVID outbreak or a fucking soup what's that new shit they're all worried about

that's going on what's going on the chicken flus I don't know no no they got Brian they help me out here dude they got something going on it's like a fungus

what's like the last of us no this is a real fucking The geeks talked about it a couple of weeks ago, man. They saw them. They saw the writing on the wall. That sounds world ending. Yeah.

If that's a real thing and they just released a show about it, I might not want to watch shows anymore. It is floating around hospitals primarily, and it's basically, it kills one out of every three people that it infects. What? So take down. It's called. Candidus something. Help us out here, Steve Carlton and the geeks, whoever's listening?

You guys were talking about it two weeks ago. Jesus fucking Christ, man. Yeah, not good. Can we catch a break? Not good. Can we live in a normal fucking world for like 10 minutes? Can we do that? This is the normal world. We may be living in a snow globe. We may be living in a snow globe. Oh, we might be living like that one show. I wanted to check out. I wanted to see if you checked it out, Lance. silo.

I want to. I want to. It's on prime, right? I haven't heard too many people talk about the show, but I heard a lot of people say the books were good. I see, that's where I get in trouble because I would have to read the books first.

But the Zisu said it's pretty awesome. He was talking about it. You need books for your list anyways. Yeah, that's true. I think I'm four deep into the Sandman now. So I want to get like six of those in. I think Steve said his, I could be wrong, but I think Steve said his wife read all the books and she liked all the books.

The silo. Okay. I'm going to look it up while you guys are talking. But that's it. It's the news. All right. Trailer Park time, boys. Trail apart.

Let's go. Going to Netflix. Run, rabbit, run. Run, rabbit, run. I always have Bill Mosley from House of a Thousand Corpses in my head. Run, Rabbit, Run. Yeah. You know what I'm thinking of?

There was a book, speaking of books, there was a book series called Rabbit Run or something like that. The Rabbit series, he was like a detective, kind of like Fletch. I think it was like in the 70s or early 80s, but one of the books was called Run Rabbit Run. It's called The Tortoise and the Hair. That might have been it. Is that what they told Eminem and Ate, Mom? Before they jump up. Is that what they said?

Run, Rabbit, Run. Probably. Yeah, I think so. Spoiler alert. Sorry. For a 40-year-old movie or whatever it is. Run, Rabbit Run. Run comes from director Diana Reed

and stars Sarah Snook. I believe she's from the HBO series Succession. Let's see. Sarah Snook plays a fertility doctor who believes firmly in life and death, but after noticing the strange behavior of her young daughter, must challenge her own values and confront a ghost from her past. That is not what I got from the trailer.

No. Looks like she goes to maybe a place from her past and sees what might be her young sister that passed away years ago and might not be her, it could be her. I didn't see anything that synopsis said. This trailer looks like it can either be really good and creepy and atmospheric or really fucking boring. Yeah. It's really hard to tell. Yeah, they don't give you a lot really in the trailer.

I'm not sure how much I got out of like just seeing what the plot was or whatever. It looks like somebody gets possessed at some point, right? Maybe. Yeah, I mean. Or there's a ghost? Maybe it's all in her head. I don't know. watching the trailer, like, I'm kind of into it.

The whole, is that really her little sister, or is she just seeing things? But after reading the synopsis, I don't know if I want to watch this movie. Uh-oh. Because I don't know what her being a fertility doctor has to do with anything. Sounds kind of. Because the rap, like I said, it's big a lot of the baby. Oh, I get it. Oh.

Okay. It's all coming together. now. It's all coming together. Philip, Philip's all the mystery. The couple things I've seen Sarah Snook in. She's a good actress, so

I would check it out for that. I know I've heard of this movie last year. I think it was in the movie, the festival run making his way through there and got picked up on Netflix. So I think off the strength of that, I'll check it out.

Yeah, that's a good sign. Off the synopsis. I totally just don't even want to talk about movie no more. It has nothing to do with the trailer. Right. So we'll see. Yeah. We'll table it.

But it's on Netflix, so it's free, it's free for us anyway, so, you know. Yeah, it sounds like none of us are real excited, but we'll watch it if it pops up and we have nothing else to watch. June 28th. Okay. All right.

Next and final trailer is the sequel to the movie we reviewed years ago, wasn't it? Philip, we all saw that together. The moment that you've all been waiting for. The Meg. Well. The trench. The trench. This movie's going to be so good that it doesn't even have a synopsis on IMDB because it doesn't.

God, does it need one? Does it need one? I mean, Giant Shark eats people should be dissuice. I mean, I'm not even going to get into the cast or to the Ben Wheatley's back to direct. Now, that, that intrigues me. We got Jason Statham about to be eaten by a Megalodon, and he just puts his foot on it and pushes it away. At one point, he literally jumps. the shark.

It does have while he's surfing it though, Brian, it does have chains on. While he's surfing, he does jump to shark while he's surfing

on a jet ski. I am sold on this movie. It's so fucking ridiculous. At least it knows what it is now. Yeah. I think that might have been I did enjoy the first one for what it was,

but I think that was the problem with it. I think it was taking it. self a little too serious. I think this one knows that it's fucking ridiculous. I would agree. Kind of like chart nata territory. We start off with a megalodon eating

a fucking Tyrannosaurus rex. Which was awesome. It's kind of graphic for a, this wasn't even a red van trailer. Because that was a lot of I mean with CGI blood, but it's kind of graphic for a regular trailer.

No dinosaurs. And then they're making of this movie. And then they're going I don't know to the bottom of the ocean and they got these super suits on where they're like karate chopping like stones in half

and this movie seems fucking ridiculous and I love everything then they had the barracuda song playing what I thought was perfect that was a good tie-in they definitely threw in some comedy

moments in the trailer so that you kind of know what you're getting into I think they just showed up straight up showed people getting eaten in the trailer yeah I'm with it.

Like, all right, that's what I was looking for out of the last one. I didn't think there was enough carnage. I know, dude. We were let down in the last one, weren't we? A little bit. But, you know, Jason Statham, kicking shark ass. Give it a shot. Yeah.

I'm looking forward to this one. Yeah, I'm looking through the cast. It looked like pretty much who survived the first one is back. and as far as anybody knew, I don't recognize anybody. Cliff Curtis. Yep, yep. Cliff and Curtis is in it.

Other than that, it's like Jason State them and do what? Cliff Curtis will probably die. Oh, you think he's going to be fodder for the shark? He's going to be the guy that knows what he's talking about, but then he'll get eaten. Yes, nobody will listen to him. You'll better eat me in this movie.

I'm not coming back for the next. next one. See, I'm going to call it now. He's going to be the scientist that is warning everybody about the Meglodon. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But he's going to get killed. Definitely. And they're going to have to go back and get Jason Statham because he's survived these before. And that's seen in the trailer where he's doing pull-ups for no reason. Randomly doing pull-ups. Yeah, he's going to be trying to warn the mayor. He's going to be like, for God, say, why was the 4th of July? Yeah, because there is a beach. Yes. There's a beach scene that, of course, for reasons, they won't shut it down. How much money this beach makes?

How much money can the beach make? Do they have to pay to go there? I mean, if COVID shut it down. Parking fees? Should we put this on the list? I'm down. I'm down. I'll check it.

it out for sure. August 4th is the release date. So, end of the summer. I want to see what the director of a field in England and high rise and other such weird, edgy, like

British folk horror type movies is capable of doing what you start. He did the first one. No, I thought it was Turtle Dob or something like that. John, uh,

Fuck. Who was? Didn't you? No. It sounds like a totally made it name. Oh, fuck. All right. Well, move on then. I could have sworn the first Meg was directed by somebody named John Turtle Taub or Turtle Dauve or something like that.

It's missed. You know what? You're right, Lance. Unknown. You're right, Lance. But didn't they have Wheatley picked it one time to do the first one or something like that? I don't know. Fuck.

I'm so confused right now. You're right. I don't know who this guy is, but you're right. I thought you picked somebody. Okay. All right. Yeah, it was kind of like almost a relatively unknown, right? I mean, I think.

I think so. And you remembered his name, dude. You had to be on Jeopardy. Yeah. No, it was a weird. This is a weird name. It was like a super weird name. I got a point.

Like Zach Snyder. Right? Or something like that. But it wasn't Zach Snide. Zach Snide is a more believable name. Ah, okay. John Turtle Tertletob. Turtle Tob.

There you go, Philip. Take that. He is the director of such movies as... It's not telling me. The Meg. The Meg. Oh, he did. He did the one episode of the Rush Hour TV show

that got never... never got picked up. That one, oh, wow. It's going to say, there was a rush hour TV show. This is why you know this guy, Lance. You must have blinked, Philip. He did. He did Zoe's extraordinary playlist.

Isn't it like a musical show? That's a great, great, great, yes. That's awesome. That's how you know him. So musical. Oh, that was almost going to be about cool of the week. Schmigadoon is back on Apple TV Plus. But this year it's called Schmickago.

And it's edgy. And they do. lot of jazz. The jazz in the jazz hands. I'm not about that. Chicago. Hey, yeah. Pull them out.

All right. We'll end the trailer park on that note. All right. All right. On to listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on Keep It Weird. Keep It Weird is a podcast for all things strange, unusual, paranormal, supernatural, scary, sticky, gross, and everything in between.

Join our host. Oh, there you go. Join our host, Lauren and Ashley, and their guests as we talk about all things weird. Sounds awesome. Right up our alley. Yeah. Regarding bears on a ship.

Lyle Huckin says, that there is what we like to call the bear kaiju. and the director on Twitter commented a link to his Indiegogo to help fund this movie so Oh yeah, wow we got to all

jump in then I'm tired of you got to be part of that Bears on this motherfucking shit Well, Phil on the poster The bear looks bigger than the ship So Yeah, much bigger, much bigger Like the ship looks like a Lego ship or something

So it's really more like bear on a ship. Maybe he squirts out little bears. See, the movie just writes itself. Regarding graveyard shift, Mike Marin says one of my favorite bad film guilty pleasures. There you go. Take that, Aaron. See, I don't really subscribe to the guilty pleasure things. I never feel guilty.

guilty about anything I like. I enjoy it, man. I enjoy the film quite a bit. Man, just because Aaron's shit all over it and also not great. I think you met your match with Aaron. Oh, more than my match. I went down with the first blow.

That was a one-punch fight. I almost felt like she hit my glass jaw and I hit the floor. I almost felt like your scores compared to hers, you were giving out like tens. I was with sporting it, wasn't I?

That's how her reviews usually start out. What a piece of crap. All right. Regarding a fan poster for Gremlin's 3, a student of the game asks, is this real or fan art? I was finally like, ah, Gremlin's 3. The posters dope. Looks super exciting, man.

Sorry, Tavares, but not real. Fan art. Yeah. It was a cool poster, though. Yep. Maybe it will inspire a movie like the Hocus Pocus 3 fan poster did. Or Hocus Focus 2, sorry. But the movie sucked.

Well, let's just say maybe of Beetlejuice 2's a hit. Maybe 80s, certain 80s and 90s movies that should have got sequels, maybe they'll get sequels. That's true. Yeah. it's about time for another Grimlins for sure and I mean sequels I don't mean like reboots and remakes

I was going to say maybe a sequel to Goonies I can watch that with Josh Berlin this is not hard but I've heard that there are developments that maybe instead of a movie it'll be a series

oh okay that the original cast would be involved I was going to say I think you have have the original cast in there. Oh, that's right. Because data is back and big right after everything. Oh, yeah. That guy is in the MCU now.

He's going to be on one of the Marvel shows. No. As soon as he won that Oscar, you know, his phone was ringing off the hook. Yeah, such an amazing story. His little speech up there, so.

Oh, yeah. I enjoyed it, man. Yeah. But he definitely, because the guy that played Chunk is his lawyer, his entertainment lawyer. Oh, wow. Look at that. Yeah, that kid, like, stopped acting and got into law. I'm going to guess the old lady's dad, right? She died a long time ago.

The guy that played a sloth guy, too. Yeah, I was about to say sloth has to have bitten the big one, too, right? wishmaster's still around Joey Pants he's still around you can bring them back Joe Pantilione we'll see Let's see

And regarding let us pray Chad Ladd says This movie is a hidden gym And I watch it at least twice a year Damn That's strong words Let us pray Which one is that?

I think it's let it like a P-R-E-Y, right? Yes, right? I've heard of it. I just can't visualize it. I may need to check it out. Yeah, I need to look it up if you're watching it twice a year. No kidding. Yeah, it's worth watching then.

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and forget it there it is it's Mother's Day this week with Mama and the Babadip which I had to get that in there but we're going to start with Mama from 2013

You guys know what time it is? I guess you wouldn't. It's late. It's really, really late. Don't. Don't go in the closet. Nothing. After a young couple take in their two nieces, they suspect that a supernatural spirit named Mama has latched onto their family. Director is Andy Muschetti, also known for the newest version of It, almost at IT, as well as the up. coming flash movie. Writers are Andy and Barbara Mochetti with Neil Cross.

It would take four hours every day to get Javier Bautette into his mama makeup. What? And another two hours to remove it. According to Jessica Chastain, Annabelle's octopus tattoo describes her character. When Annabelle found herself caught in a

situation she did not love. such as the octopus, she would take off her tentacles and grow new tentacles to escape. Huh. Interesting. I didn't know there was actually somebody in the mama makeup. It seemed pretty C.G. I mean. Yeah. Now that you say that, it kind of might bring my score down later because the fact that I know, I know, I never really known who that there was a person in the makeup that played the mama character and to find out is Javier Botet because he's in a lot of

movies. Right? Mm-hmm. He's kind of like the Andy Circus of Spain or wherever he's from, you know? Yeah, he's like, or Doug Jones. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And to find out that that was practical

and then you threw a whole bunch of CG garbage on top of it. Yeah. It might bring him a score down. Why would you do that? Man, you're showing on your hand early, Ryan?

Well, I mean, if anybody's seen Javier Boutte, he's a unique looking guy. He's super tall with super long arms and legs. And he gets these kind of roles because of his unique body build. And then put some practical makeup on him and maybe just use little CGI effects. Yeah. But this looked like it was completely done CGI. I'm actually, I've never known that. I'm actually kind of blown away that there was somebody in makeup as the character.

I don't know, man. There were some scenes where I felt like I could see a real human, you know, like walking, you know, and stuff like that in the background. But yeah, you're right. It's a CGI festival, folks. Yeah, I'm looking him up. He has a condition called hyper-laxivity. they're describing his body of Wikipedia he has long thin fingers

he stands 6 feet 7 inches and only weighs 123 pounds Oh wow Well he was made for So you can see that he can play this character Right But me watching the movie I didn't think anybody was playing this character

No yeah it looks like it's just a straight up CGI manifestation you know what I mean Sure Looked like a, in other words, a cartoon, right? Basically, just all animated. But 100 years ago, he would have been in business, right? He would have been in what they used to call like traveling freak shows or carnivals. Oh, yeah.

You know, the circus. So they'll always be a place for Javier in any timeline. He's done a lot of movies. He's, uh, yeah. He's been in the wreck movies. That's what I figured, yeah. The Conjuring. He was the Crooked Man in The Conjuring.

Oh. They were supposed to do a movie about that. What happened? They canceled that bullshit. Did he ask for too much money or what? The new It movie, he was the hobo, the leopard. Okay.

Makes sense. Make sense. He was a slender man in that movie that made Phil go to sleep in the pool. Superboy. He's done a lot. They should have just left practicals on him. then I think.

Oh, yeah. True. In that trailer we reviewed the last voyage of the Demeter. He's in that one. He's Dracula. Oh, that makes sense. That might be his breakout role, Phil.

I like it. Sorry. We got off the rails there a little bit. That's part of what we talk about, man. So aside from Mama not doing practicals, which, yeah, it kind of blew my mind, too, as I was reading it. What did you think

of the movie, Brian? I remember liking it the first time I watched it. This is my only second time watching it. I watched it when it came out in the theaters. I thought it was fine, but on this rewatch, it just seems slow. Very slow.

Yeah. It's a lot of set up. A lot of setup. A lot of set up to find these children that went missing that are we just overlooking that there's supposed to be two Jamie Lannister? Like, they never really mentioned that. I was like, I'm pretty sure he's got like a twin brother, but I don't know why.

I don't know. I mean, it just. It looks too much alike. Yeah, like one had a beard, one didn't. Yeah. Kind of like when you put a chick in glasses to make her smart. Yeah, one wore suits and the other was an artist. But it was like, it just seemed almost there to purposefully confuse you.

You're like, wait, isn't this the guy I was just looking at? Yeah, I'm like, sure. When they do the, you know, the scenes of him getting in the accident and then finding the cabin, and then they cut to the house, and he's running up to the house, and he's like, is the girl's okay? And I was like, you just fucking have the girls. What is going on? Right.

Yeah. Like they don't even really mention. I don't even think the police say your brother or anything. So it was. Oh, they don't? We all just assume that then. Okay. I never, I, this, this, on this second.

watch, I'm not really buying Jessica Chastain as this guitarist. I didn't know the first watch. That was so out of character. I mean, she's got range as an actress, but Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, you're not. Anybody for them. Like, I can't think of her name. Evil Dead Rise, the girl that was the guitar, technician. Yeah. I bought her. I bought her in that role. Jamie Chastain as a guitarist and a punk band?

Yeah. No. No. Yeah. I really did like the kids in this, though. I thought they did great. You know, playing these kids that were living out in the woods with Mama this whole time, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. And I tell you what, the CGI effects on that part were kind of cool. Like when they first showed the kids and they were, like, crawling around on all fours and shit. Yeah. Everything with Mama in the background, I thought it looked good and creepy. Yes. But mama up close and out in full view looked horrible. Take you out of it, huh?

Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, the kids were great, especially them having to act like they were like, what's the word, feral? Yeah. Yeah, feral kids. And I like that the older one retained her language or whatever you want to call it, knew how to talk. And so it all slowly came back. And the introduction, you know, the uncle giving her a glass.

and her putting them on and like, oh, I can see now. Everything was slowly coming back. Right. And I like how the younger one was so young when all this happened. You know, that's all she knows. So there's nothing to come back to, you know. I liked all that. But I think just getting to the fucking point of the story just took forever.

This was like a two-hour movie and it should have been 90 minutes. Right. I still don't understand what really happened. I still don't understand what really happened the point of her taking the mama taking the kids to the cliff to jump off. Why didn't you fucking do that in the first place? I mean

was it, Phil, correct me if I'm wrong, but was it kind of a tie into La Yerona a little bit? Like, because she drowned her kids in a lake, right? Or a yeah, why why had the kids for five years if this is your end game? I don't know.

Yeah. And then why did they let the one die? Because she wanted to go with Mama. I guess. You remember the end? She was like, Mama, Victoria. And then she turned into moths, huh? And flew away.

Fluttered away. Yeah, I didn't. Maybe it just went over my head. Maybe I'm just stupid. Probably not. Yeah, sometimes kids want to do dumb shit that's not good for them. Maybe don't let them jump off a cliff. Right.

And then this is. And essentially, this is, The Jessica Chastain movie because Jamie Lannister Yeah Get thrown off the fucking stairs and is knocked out For most of the movie Yeah And then at the end

When he magically shows up to where she's going He gets knocked out again So he's completely useless Which I I felt we should have had Brian of Tarth show up So she could have saved the day I felt, see, I felt bad for Jessica Chastain's character because she clearly didn't want kids.

Oh, yeah. She made that abundantly clear. Yeah, there was a scene where she's like this little fucking brats get him away from it. Yeah, there's a scene where she's taking a birth control test and it says she's not pregnant. It's like, fuck. She's like, whoo. About to go, about to go rehearse with my band now. There's more heroin than cocaine.

I don't know if it works like this, but they, the child care people make them go live in this house to take care of the kids and they can't tell anybody where they're at, like, it's witness protection. Yeah. Why are they in witness protection?

I don't know. There's a scene where... Brian, at least in the Babadik, you understand why. the child protective services showed up, right? Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that. But this one, I'm just, they go stay at this house.

She's telling her, the people in her band, like, I got to go stay at this house, and I can't tell anybody where the house is. And I'm like, why? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It's like there's a catch. And then the psychiatrist, psychologist is doing all this research and background checks, and he's not telling them that they, they might be in danger and I'm like, why are you not telling them?

Yeah, really weird. I mean, at first you had your doubts and then you're like, now you don't have your doubts and you're doing research and you're not informing the people that they might be in danger. I don't understand any of this movie. You're gonna go knock on their door and tell them there's a ghost after him? Was it just- I mean, she might believe just to get away from the kids. Was it just made-

Brian, or did that psychiatrist or whatever, reminds you a little bit of monk? Tony Shalhub. Tony Shaloo. I thought it was Tom Shaloo. I did too. Should have been. So what else, Brian?

It does not really much of the story that you really can get into. Like, they get to kids. Mama's haunting them because mama somehow came from the cabin all the way to their home. is playing with the kids throughout the movie, throws Jamie Lannister down the stairs, plays with the kids someone. At least you hadn't cut his hand off. Scarees Jessica Chastain.

Somehow she believes in everything. Right? Knows that the psychiatrist, psychologist, or whatever, has research on it. Monk. Yeah, steal Monks' research papers. And then the kids are gone

and she knows where they're going and on her drive there Jamie shows up in the road for some reason or was that the twin or were they triplets Brian maybe there's a big one wait wait

while he's in a coma uh huh he's getting visions of what happened to mama for some reason because he's connected maybe it's the twin connection

because mama took his twin away so So Jamie, Jamie number one is screaming out to Jamie number two. Who's dead? And they never really did the first Jamie, the business suit, Jamie, did he kill his wife and was going to kill his kids? Because they didn't really talk about it. He was out there, man. He was ready to kill everybody.

They kind of just brushed that off. But why? Like, they just never really talked about it. Like, the guy just tried to kill his family. Two-hour fucking movie and they couldn't even give you the back story of why he was there. Yeah.

I don't know what else to say about this movie. You've said a lot. I still think it was weird that he, Jamie Lannister played two different parts. That was seen... I know. I mean, if... It's not fucking Eddie Murphy, man.

Come on. I mean, if they would have, if they would have just mentioned brothers or something, it was just weird how we're just introduced to that their, that they're twins is he just shows up right after we just seen him. For no particular reason.

It's bad. Like did the twins part move the story along at all? Not really. It was just there. Maybe that's all they could afford to hire. Maybe they got a discount. You can get two Jamie's for the price of one. There it is.

Maybe Jamie saw that Band-Dam movie, double impact. I can fucking do this. He was inspired. He's no Van Dam, that's for sure. But it doesn't really matter because like I said, he's knocked out for most of the movie. Yeah, that's true.

Got a big cast on his arm and his leg up and the hospital bed that he was in. And then wakes up after his vision and checks himself out. After he's just been in a coma. Right. and the hospital staff is like see ya

I'm gonna have a review over on a Skaternaz podcast network it's the ESP short that I do on the short film mama that anime shed it did three minute film sure more effective than this fucking movie

okay well maybe that was the problem they took a three minutes short and made it into a two and a half hour movie I mean I'm glad this movie got Annie Mouschetti's foot in the door because... Right. Oh, yeah. It was great. It was great. Everything

I'm hearing is the Flash is super fun, so it's good that it got his foot in. Oh, God. He's doing that piece of shit. Fuck. Why is it a piece of shit? You're such a Marvel fan boy. You're a Marvel fan boy. Yes, I am. I even bought Disney stocks, just to have a couple of them.

That's you're a DC guy. Nah, I hate DC, dude. I was mainly an X-Men fan when I was growing up. I read all the X-Men comics books. Wolverine miniseries, X-Force, X-Factor, X-Calibur, you name it. I fucking bought all of them. But DC, man, I don't know. I hated Superman to begin with.

I'm like, when you're that all-powerful, who can really be against you? Oh, it's this thing called Kryptonite. Oh, that's great. Whoa, yeah, great. A little green rock that can bring you to your knees. Great writing, guys. I'm not a D.C. fan. I like Batman okay, if he's done the right way.

And the Joker's a good character, but all right, enough of that, Brian. You got a good one. Les, what did you think about this one? Before we go into the movie review, we're going to go back to misogyny cast. I don't see why.

With mama? You will when I tell you. So, actually, yes. Because here's the deal. deal. So the wife and I, guys, we all have our hall passes, right? We even did an episode.

Yeah. I think we each did our top five hall passes. So my wife and I also play the hall pass game. So her ultimate hall pass is Kevin Costner. All right? So that's like her guy hall pass. But my wife, I like the fact that she's a little bit liberal when it comes to sex. And, you know, she thinks outside the box and she has a female hall pass list.

And that consists primarily of Charlize Theron and Jessica Chastain. Not from this movie, though. Not from this movie, but I will say if you really kind of look at Jessica Chastain in a couple of scenes in this film, her bodice was quite

well packed and, uh, hey, we are in Misogyny Corner right now, right? She's a very good girl. I, I didn't find her attractive in this movie. No? I'm,

I still attractive. Yeah, she's an attractive woman, but I felt like, I don't know. Maybe it was my okay. Oh,

uh, expecting that. I'll say, I'll say that, I'll say that everything girls are dangerous for me. It's, it's like,

it's like, I put it this way. It's like when I watch Glad Danzig's verotica. Yeah. That movie was so bad. I got,

I got tired of seeing naked women. No. How bad to What about, kill her goats? Did you get tired of the naked women of that one? That was fun. That's the difference.

Yeah, I think somebody would disagree with you. I think our friend Tim from down under said, this baby's a piece of shot. He said, yeah, they got a lot of boobies, but they're not what the fuck. That was a terrible Australian accent. But, all right. You tried. Mama.

Good. I kept thinking about the Phil Collins song, or the Genesis song, Mama, where Phil Collins goes, ha, ha! But, no, it was, it was, it was creepy. It had a creepy atmosphere, which I appreciated. Super CGI-ish. I'm with both you guys, like, I was kind of, I don't know, there were a few scenes where I felt like, yes, there is a real actor back in the background scenes, but you're right. Anytime they did close-ups, it was pure animation and nothing but. This might have been the worst cast movie that I've seen in a long time.

Because, yeah, Jamie Lannister had no part playing either of the two roles. I have no idea why they would have picked him for that because... Like, he's great as Jamie Lannister in Game with Thrones. He's arrogant. He is. He is. You hate him and then you love him. And I give that not just to the story, but how he played that character.

This, he's just some fucking guy that you could have kept in every else in the fucking movie. Yeah. Yep. A schmuck, like a fill in the blank, a check the boxes guy. Like he's twin. We mentioned a dozen times already. He plays fucking twins. Right.

And he's the same fucking guy. And they're supposed to be. He's the same a fucking guy. clearly that's a scratch on his nose yeah clearly they're supposed to be two different yeah clearly they're supposed to be two different guys because right one's more business to like and the other ones an artist but sure plays it like they're the same fucking guy I couldn't agree more bad bad bad casting bad bad acting yeah Jessica Chastain was not the right person for this role at all she didn't sell me

all. The kids were kind of, I don't know. I kind of enjoyed watching the kids, especially the, like you guys were talking about the part early on where they were feral. I thought that was kind of creepy. But you're right. You guys are totally right. What is mother's end game? Why the fuck does she let them live there in the house and fuck with her and play games and shit and then get into the house, but then jump off a cliff with one? It just zero parts of this movie makes sense. It's not well-written. It's not well-acted. They took the kids from Mama. If you want the kids back, why are you hanging out in the house playing with them? Philip, what do you think, man? Yeah, I mean, right. I mean,

bright covered a lot. He did. Yeah, but I, it sort of, it sort of makes sense now. I mean, I remember when I first saw this, I was not necessarily impressed, but I wasn't. like disappointed you know what I mean it was like okay well that was a that was a pretty okay horror movie it sort of stands out from the crowd and the definitely had some jump scares yeah and the generic shit that this should fit in yeah um so it was just kind of okay yeah i it was just I think had they not had the CGI mama all over the place especially the close-up scenes at the end. It just made it kind of hokey. And had they had they not had that shit going on, I think it would have been fine. Okay. Agreed. Yeah. And yeah, the whole twin situation just seemed to

serve no purpose except to be confusing. Because they're cousins. Identical cousins. I keep bringing it up, but that scene when it goes from the cabin to Jamie running to the house look to see what happens. Yeah. It felt like there needed to be a scene in between there. And there might happen. Like, yeah, that's true, too.

Phone calls saying, your brother and the kids are missing and we found his wife dead. You need to get here quick. Yeah. Now, okay, they're twins. But him just kind of just showing up, I'm like,

how did you get from the cabin here already, you know? I mean, obviously something out of the three-minute short inspired Gierermo, wouldn't have thrown his money and his weight behind this. The three minutes short, I'll find it in a post it in the group for people to watch. But it's the scene when Mama chases them up the stairs and the little girl locks the older sister out of the room. But in the movie, was there a fish bowl?

Because I know in the short, I noticed she was holding a fish bowl trying to save her fish, her goldfish. I don't think that was in the movie, was it? I don't think it wasn't a movie. Yeah. They didn't even add that. Cool, cool creature. Maybe they could have done something cool with it, but it was a, they sort of slid to the finish line. At least they didn't jump over a cliff.

Oh, wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah, and I was a little bothered that they killed one of the kids at the end. That was very disturbing. They're like, oh, great. Now the one that's hard to deal with is gone. That makes our life easier. Here we go.

Just get his day was like fist pumping mama. It did seem like that. The one that was the most hard to handle. Yeah. I'll just let her go. She fell off a clip. I don't know what happened. Literally.

And how were they going to explain all that? Oh, they'll think of something. You notice there was no mama too. What are they telling child services now? They just lost one of the kids. Thanks for the house. Peace out. Yeah, there's definitely going to be some aftermath.

Mama 2 is just, the whole movie is just set in court. The CPS shows up. All right. What's your score, Brian? You know what? I'll be fair because it was well shot. It was well directed. it just, I didn't like anybody.

Okay, the people that are casted in the movie, I like them as actors and actresses. I just think they were miscast for this movie. And Phil, you reading that Javier Botet was mama and was done all in makeup, and then they threw all that CG on, it brings my score way down. But I did thank the kids for what they needed to do in the movie.

We did a good job. so I'll give it a five. That's pretty good, man. That's even water. Treading, treading water. Lance, you got a five? No, it's three and a half. It's one-third good.

It's creepy. I don't know. Maybe I was in the mood for jump scares, but I actually kind of enjoyed the jump scares. So I'll give it that. Yeah. There is definitely a creepy factor. And after talking to, talking about it, I do kind of want to lower my score, but I'm still going to give it a sixth, I think.

Ah. I had, I had an okay time with this movie, you know? It's not, it's not a stand-up. It's not a stand-out. It's not a classic. It just, it does separate itself from the group a little, though. It's worth watching once. Yeah, I will tell anybody that if you want to see where Andy Mochetti started,

check it out because you see that he's a good director I just think the story was lacking like we talked about it started from a short film maybe there wasn't enough

in the short film to garner a whole feature link film so yeah but I still think as a director he's a good director so it's just

movie He was just miscasted, and they just definitely missed a mark on the story. He got Geraima's attention. That's where the money is. That's the money pot. Because here's the movie. The kids go missing. They find the kids.

Mama goes back, gets the kids, jumps off the cliff. Keeps them alive for five years and then jumps off a fucking cliff. I want to lower my score, I think. With no real motivation. but yeah it's a three it's not a three and a half it's not one third good Brian you got me with that

why would she do that why keep them old and let him be feral and what was with the cherry kids they give the little the remains of her mama's baby to her and I'm just like if you wanted the baby why didn't you why are you having these kids grow up

you're gonna make it's I don't know if mama's supernatural just go fucking create the baby in dreamland or something right let's let's get to the next one okay goes baby score yes they're not a big ghost no what was with the cherry pits guys why cherry pits those kids would have diarrhea for fucking days they didn't they were just fed that's why they ran on all fours just in

case it squirts out the back all right So Mama is okay at best. We'll move on to the Babadook. Or as binge media lovingly refers to it, Brian. Babadook? Bobbidick. The nose is broken in two places,

and they need surgery. I'll pay for everything. Can't even pay your own bills. Look, I really have to go. Claire, I think someone is stalking me in Samuel. What? A book turned up at her place. I threw it away, but somebody glued it back together and put it on our doorstep.

Amelia, I just can't help you right now. I don't expect you to help. I just wonder. Is you that worried you should go to the police? I've got to go. Babadook! From 2014, a single mother and her child fall into a deep well of paranoia with an eerie children's book titled Mr. Babadook. manifests into their home.

Director and writer is Jennifer Kent, also known for the Nightingale. That's a rough film. Yeah. Director Jennifer Kent holds the rights to the film, and when asked if there would be a sequel, she said, I will never allow any sequel to be made

because it's not that kind of film. I don't care how much I'm offered. It's just not going to happen. Offer her enough money, and it will happen. I don't know. I like that. I hope that. I like it too, but can we really believe that? I guess we'll find out. What's his name that Robert Zemeckis? Does he own like Back to the Future? And because none of the original people could be really involved in it or the way that they should be. He said they'll never be a sequel. And nobody can do anything about it. I kind of respect when people stand on that. but Lance I also do agree if somebody backed up that money truck with the right amount making Babadook Netflix series everybody's got a fuck it price

Babad Duke the amusement bride Bobby Duke the musical Baba Bobba daubhubh duke David Duke Apparently in Hebrew Baba Duke means he is coming for sure. That's scary.

Don't fact check me on that. I don't know. All right. Brian, what did you think about the Bobaduke? This movie is the definition of elevated horror. Yeah, that makes sense. It definitely belonged in the March Madness list.

It deals with a lot of heavy topics, depression, grief, amongst other things. What mothers go through raising being a single mother, raising a kid. It goes through a lot of that stuff, and I think it hits the mark on every one of those subjects.

A lot of people... Why can't you be normal, meme? Yeah. The main actress, let me pull her up. I thought she did a phenomenal job. And, you know, a lot of people hate the kid. Boy, you're supposed to. Yeah, you're supposed to hate the kid.

Yeah, you're experiencing the movie from her point of view. And then that's the cool thing about the movie because it kind of swaps. Because then you see why the kid's acting the way he is, and then you're seeing it from his point of view. And first you hate the kid, then you feel for the kid. Oh, that's right. You hate the mom. When she goes to full exorcist mode. Yeah.

And I really enjoyed that whole. dynamic of the movie how it just kind of makes you see things from all different angles and the Babadook designer of the Babadook I think is creepy I think they did a better job with the look of the Babaduke than they

did the fucking look of Mama oh big time big time yeah for majority they kept the Bobaduke in the fucking shadows his little creepy fingers and stuff would come out and the little top hat and the

the constant showing up of the book she kept trying to get rid of the book and the book kept you know reappearing

and trying to burn the book and the book's coming back again and slowly she's just descending into madness and

she thinks you're I just love that you think it's the fucking kid and you're just like do something about the kid

but then when you get the kid's point of view you know he kind of see this is what I want to get into. Do you think the Babadook

is real? For me, yes. Yes, the way I watch the movie. I like to put a literal spin on these artsy movies. So as far as I'm concerned, there was a supernatural element for sure. I say yes, but at first, no. I think

all the stuff that was going on in their lives manifested. Okay, Brian, so how do you explain the fact that both she and he saw the Babadu? group psychosis. I don't know what that means, but I heard it somewhere.

Well, there was glass in her soup, but not his. That was interesting. She put it there herself, Lance. Maybe. Munchausen syndrome. I'm just yelling stuff out there. Man, dude. Brian, you're all over it, man.

She's got tetanus, Tourette's. Whatever the fuck is. Right? Tentis. I mean, this movie goes really. fucking deep, you know, like they can't ever really celebrate his birthday because that was the day of the father dying and then... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You kind of get closure at the end when they actually do celebrate his birthday and... Or do you? Or do you? Yeah. Remember, she saw the video in her mind when she was like passing out on the couch and she actually saw the... She was watching all those weird animated shows and stuff like that where the Babadook showed up in him. And you could kind of see what was going to be.

going on in her mind and then she saw that news, that little news segment where it says, the mother went crazy and shot her child on his birthday, you know, like where the news, the news announcer was actually, I thought for sure that was coming. What made it from? Go ahead, Phil. I was, it's, it's like mental illness, anxiety, depression, whatever you want it to mean, but it's obviously that's what it is. in the movie.

And that's why she sort of keeps it at bay at the end. Spoiler alert. And, and, like, keeps it in the basement and feeds it because there's no way to really get rid of it. All you can do is tame it. So do you guys think she was taking some of her son's pills? Like the pills to sleep?

Because she was so desperate in that scene with the doctor, right? Yeah. But he was sleeping too, right? The kid was sleeping too. So was that just her being thrown? off because like she would be awake at weird times and he'd be asleep. With her being, she thought it was during the day, maybe.

Her being sleep deprived and kind of having all these issues on top of that. Right. From her point of view, we don't really know what was real and what was, you know. Totally. Maybe you're going back to the glass in the suit. Maybe she put it in the suit. Right. Maybe he put it in the suit.

We don't know. Maybe the Babadook is when she goes fucking crazy and she's the monster. Maybe the Babadook put it in the suit. I mean, the kid called it. Phil could be right. Maybe it was her as the Babaduke. Maybe she is the Bobadook. Maybe the Bobad Duke is actually a supernatural thing, and he did it.

Yeah, there's a lot of angles, man. It's a pretty deep movie. It's enjoyable, man. I love it. It's creepy as fuck, dude. And that kid is a creepy fucking kid. When he's in the car and he's like yelling and shit. he had a

he had an awesome backpack catapult though that was pretty cool so so what do you guys think some engineering points for that what do you guys think about that scene where he

where she wasn't paying attention to him and the next thing you know they look up and he's standing on the top of that monkey bars contraption or whatever oh yeah do you all think he fell off or

it seemed like his arm would be broken or something right? That's true. The next scene, they were in like the hospital or something, aren't they? No, I think the next scene, she was driving him home and he was yelling. Oh, that's when he was screaming and stuff. That was just her screaming session. And then later he screamed more. There's a lot of effective scenes where the Babadu pops up like that. Right? The most memorable one to me is where it almost looks like she has, what do you call it, sleep paralysis? But she can't move, but he's just above her in the bed. Well, they tried that at Mama, but it wasn't as effective, right?

Yeah. I'm tired of talking about Mama. Movies bring it down to a four. Like, I'm telling you, my kids watched this one with me, and they were, like, engulfed in it. Yikes. I didn't expect. They were no shit. It's weird, Lance.

My two oldest are in their early 20s now, and I remember showing this to them back when this came out. And they, this movie, their eyes were glued to the screen, but they did the kid thing where they cover their ears. Yeah. The loud sounds are not going to scare them. Right. It's not about what they're seeing. It's about what they're hearing. Yeah.

And they, yeah, they were glued into this when they, when they were kids. It's, it's an effective movie. Totally unlike Mama, this, this is actually effective. Yeah. This is how you, this is how you make a horror movie that involves a mother. This is like the winner of the two, right? Yeah, and I think the end scene maybe was a little on the nose where she's got the Babadook locked up in the basement.

But I also like it. Feeding in worms? Yeah, I also liked it. I like the message behind it and everything. It was a pretty solid film, man. But you're right. The definition of elevated horror is like before it was cool, I guess. Sure.

Yeah, the lead actress is Essie Davis. Essie Davis. I've seen her a few TV shows or something. Yeah, she's been in she's actually in Game of Thrones. Not much. She's been in Game of Thrones. Shit, that's about it. Game of Thrones. Okay. Game of Thrones. She was in the Matrix,

one of the shitty sequels. Ah, take your pick, huh? Just one of those people hanging out in the background. Yay, Neo's home. She was like dancing like this. What was the one where they were in the rave? What did they call that place? Where they all went to is like Evan.

Zion. Zion. Yeah. But yeah, the Babadook, I think it does a good job of, like I was saying, taking all these different topics and applying them to the movie. Sure. Yeah. Unlike Mama.

had an idea for something that maybe wasn't enough to stretch out into a full movie. Yeah. And then, like I said, design-wise, I think the mama does not compare to the Babadook as far as design-wise. And the Babadu, even if this movie is not a blockbuster movie, but it's an iconic figure. Like, everybody's seen the Babadook figure. well and they don't ever really show him very clearly you know of course not yeah that that's the the beauty of it you don't need to see it come up with come up with conclusions in your mind on what it really looks like and that'll probably scare you more yeah it's a little

creepier when they leave it up to your imagination sure yeah her her acting was fucking amazing. Like how she lost her husband and the first time you saw it, I think was pretty early in the movie, right? Where you saw her turning around and you can see pieces of glass and you slowly start piecing together what happened. And then it's like, she's like, seems super ill-equipped to take care of a child all by herself. But then, and see, that's why I like the psychological, or I mean the supernatural aspect of it because it's like, maybe there is. some weird supernatural creature fucking with her. Maybe she

could be a good mother if she didn't have this, you know, this kind of like a puck-like or a laparcon type character fucking with her, you know? I don't know how to describe it. I guess that's what makes it elevated. Yeah. Yeah, but there you got.

Like, locus. Mischievous. These are, but like, going back to the whole elevated horror thing, this is done, this is elevated horror done right. You know, it takes... real-life situations and uses them for horror. Right.

And it's more effective than having like a cheap jump scare every now and then. Which is what Mama was. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like Mama tried to do something. This one did do something. Good way to put it. Yeah. All right.

Scores for the Bobaduke, Brian. Let me give him an eight. I thought it was really effective. Jennifer Kent did an amazing job directing. It looked creepy. I felt like that whole house was fucking creepy to me. And it was probably just a regular fucking house, but just the way everything was shot and the lighting.

Yeah, it became a character, basically. Especially when she was talking about all the roaches getting behind the refrigerator. If there was. CPS showed up. Was there or wasn't? I mean, we've all been on bad trips and seen shit that wasn't there, right? Oh, yeah.

Good point. I like it. Yeah, good score, man. What do you think, Lance? I'm with Brian. It's an eight. Yeah, it's definitely an easy eight, man. This is like one of the top elevated horror movies that I've seen in a while. And when you guys are telling me that your kids also enjoyed it, that, you know, kind of also speaks to a while.

wide audience of people who enjoy this film and get, everybody gets something different out of it. Like you said, at first, you kind of thought the mom was just a bitch. Like she was not mature enough or not, not a good enough mother, right,

to want to actually take care of her child. But then as it goes on, maybe some evil spirit is fucking with her, you know, maybe it's something different, but whatever it is, it works. It's effective. So I'm I'm going with Brian. Also an eight on this one.

Also an eight. All right. Yeah, I think it's an easy eight. I'm going to give it an eight and a half, actually, I think. It was pretty effective. Any time they do like a demonic possession and like kids. Yes. Yeah, that's what it is kind of like the exorcist, right? I got some vibes of that here. Yeah. And then like put them in like real situations where this mother's like just fed up with life. in general. And I thought it had a cool, um,

sort of metaphorical situation going on, which was the elevated horror part of it, but they, they did it well. And I, they were relatively obvious with it, which is okay. I think especially in this situation.

I was pretty impressed with it. It was a, a movie that sort of came out of nowhere and, Lived up to the hype. Unlike Mama. Unlike Mama. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Please check out our website, www.thehorrorreturns.com. Not too much new in wrestling or action, Brian, or am I off base there? Wrestling Returns is recorded. We'll be dropping any day. And we are, like I said, all the other shows are on a little bit of hiatus. But we are definitely coming back. And we are possibly doing some stuff for the shows for Patreon. So, you're a Patreon donor. Be on the lookout for it. If you're not, give us a dollar. Just don't hold your breath waiting for the coosies. I swear to God. Strike me down. Mama, if I don't deliver at least half a dozen coosies this week.

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I can't believe I'm saying this. It's a no new movie again, Brian, for fuck sake, dude. Is it that dry at the theater? Everything is like superhero and action. Which we've done before. Yeah, but that's why we have the other shows, because I got tired of people asking if we did the new John Wick,

that's not horror. Well, they just call him Baba Yaya or whatever, or Baba Wawa. I don't know. All right, next week, it's another full moon retrospective. We're going to check out Puppet Master 2 and subspecies. So, Philip, until the horror returns again, good night.