The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #367: The Boogey Man (1980) & The Boogeyman (2023)

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Due to technical issues this week, we are a little late, but we are happy to bring you a brand new movie review as well as a 1980 cult classic. Cool of The Week includes Malum, Jury Duty, and Hypnotic. Trailer is Black Mirror. We shine the podcast spotlight on Strange Brew. And we get feedback from Cameron Scott. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot Spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? What's up? Pretty good.

I've had a Wi-Fi free house for at least two more days until the technician can get here. So doing it over the phone, apologies everybody, if there's any sound quality problems. It's like going back to the Stone Age. Yeah, it kind of feels that way. Some little Flintstone's action going. So what's up with you guys? It feels like I haven't seen Owen forever. Oh, you were here last week. You just had a slight accent going. It still feels like forever, dude. Three graduations and three graduation parties this year. But we're done.

We're done for two more years. A little hungover, but that's okay. Yeah, having a rush to get back from Texas Frightmare after only one day to make it on time for the party and all. Joy of road tripping with electric car, you know, finding chargers and all that shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, AJ and I had a fun trip home from, uh, San Antonio because we had a really slow

charger at a Walmart so we got to fucking walk around Walmart like a couple of bums for an hour looking at all kinds of weird buying all kinds of weird shit that we would never buy like she got moly which we haven't made molland forever so we're having that tonight so

oh okay it all paid off what's up with you Brian nothing we're recording the show a day later but it was all fine with me because I had a house full of kids. Yeah. I had my three nieces over. And when Phil calling said, can we do it the next day?

I was kind of like, yes. Because there was no way I was going to be able to do with kids running around. So it was a blessing. Yeah, I guess. Good thing. All right, cool. It's good to be back with you guys. Phillip, did it rain down there today?

Yeah, it's been kind of spotty, but they still had baseball practice, so the wife took him. It's the All-Star team, so I'm not coaching this one. I feel like a third wheel standing out there and just watching. I figured you'd be the All-Star coach for sure, man. I could have been one of the assistant coaches, but I was like, hey, I'm happy just being a dad that helps, and then that didn't really give me anything to do. So I'm like, I'll go drive around and find a frozen deck. or something. I'm going to say,

I'm sure there was alcohol involved. Oh, man. All right. Were you guys ready to jump into Kula the Week? Yeah. I'll jump in first because I only have two. All right. My first one,

I checked, both of these we reviewed the trailer for. The first one is the Black Demon, basically the Megalodon based on the Mexican folklore. Oh. not great not great not great i was kind of looking forward to it man um i can't think of the actor's name i think he always makes me think of patrick wilson i was good to say i thought it was

patrick wilson was it the guy from the new purge movie yeah yeah um i think he was i think he got his big start in uh sweet home alabama yeah that that you're right lance oh that dude that kind of looks like Patrick. I know. Yeah. Yeah, he's he basically works for this big oil corporation and he gets sent to Mexico to check, do an inspection on an oil rig. And when he gets there, like, the town is kind of almost deserted and the people are there, like, just kind of looking at him strange and

nobody wants to deal with him. And he goes to the he goes to the oil rig and finds out most of the people are dead, except for a couple people, and they keep trying to tell him about the black demon. They said it in Spanish, but my Spanish is not too great. But they kept trying to tell him about the folklore and their beliefs and why they think is here. And, of course, he's like, oh, superstitious bullshit. Right. And that was all cool and stuff, learning about the folklore and the myth and all like that and why they think it's there.

and but you barely got any of the actual megalodon. Ah. Just like here and there and CGI was not great either. If you're going to have a shark movie, you got to have the shark in it. John won't work because it was 40 years ago. Right. And it definitely doesn't have its fun aspect to it like the Meg, so. Yeah.

Ah, okay. Yeah. So not a recommendation. I mean, if you're super into we, you know, Lance, we know some people that are super into shark movies. Yes, we're super into shark. Yesterday, might.

Yesterday night. Scratch it off the list. If you're super into shark movies, if you're not, you can skip it. But cool the week, I'll go with another trailer we reviewed Malam, the remake to Night Shift. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Same director, basically. did a Sam Ramey and got more money and wanted to do the original version of his movie better. And yeah, you got a lot more to the story. The acting was pretty decent. The practicals were pretty good. Right. And if you've seen the original one, you get the gist of the story.

It's just a little bit more like backstory of her father and the, the, the, the, the people that are, the killers, you get a little bit more backstory on them. And then, like I said, there was some cool practical effects and pretty decent movies. It's such a weird remake.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess if anybody's going to remake something, it'd probably be the director that did the original one. Yeah, sure.

Probably didn't have the budget. to really what he wanted to do. But I do recommend, if anybody hasn't seen the original one, watch the original one first. Yeah, which anthology was that in again, Brian? Oh, it was a full movie. Ah, okay. All right.

So just a redone movie? Were they both the same basic link then? Yeah, same story, just more explanation, more explanation, better, better practical effects. It's like how there was like two different versions of that Exorcist beginning movie. Yeah. Yeah. Or like I said, evil did.

Yeah. Sure. Sure. Kind of went, the second one kind of went with a little bit different tone. And this one has a slightly a little bit darker tone than the original one. The original one had a dark tone. But like I said, when you get into the backstory of why stuff happened in the past and why is it affecting her now it's a little bit darker so i do recommend i of course recommend the

original one but i do recommend the new one oh that's always that's always a good thing when they when it's darker you know yeah so that that's all i had time for this week was this those two all right how do you spell that again you said it's malick malum malum m a l-u-u-m you am. All right. Sorry, man. Just putting it

down in the cool of the week. They should have just made it the night shift too.

Yeah. Right. Night shift part, do you? Philip? Part one and a half.

And I was supposed to start the new Arnold Schwarzenegger Netflix series, Food Bar. It didn't

get a chance to start it yet. You know, about that. Yeah, it's his new action series.

All I've seen so far as like the he's like if you watch like YouTube like he Netflix there's a bunch of Netflix ads where they made Arnold like the chief action movie executive of Netflix and

showing all the upcoming action movies I got coming up and I have not even seen any of those ads. Yeah Fubar is based I think basically it's just him he's a retired some kind of special agent and he has to come out of retirement

and it's Arnold so I say he's like 80 he still looks good though hey man that's Arnold dude he'll be around forever he looks a hell of a lot better than fucking what's his name fat ass

no Segal oh Segal yeah he's fine on hard with his weird dyed hair with his widow peak that disappeared later in life well now that

happened what do you expect from a Russian sympathist right is that where is that where he's at now I think so Philip you should know dude you're in the military you got the inside info don't you I know man 15 20 years now you guys remember once Segal was like kind of like at the height of his action movie career was telling people he was in the CIA vaguely. He says a lot of things. Yeah, he was doing the saying it, but not saying it, because, you know, I'm not supposed to talk about it. And I was like, shut up. And if you guys want to see something hilarious, watch that show where he was like a sheriff in like Louisiana. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, Tom Seguer has got a bid on that where he talks about Stephen Seagal as a top in New Orleans.

hilarious because depending on who he's talking to like his accent changes yeah kind of like madonna when she had with guy richie huh yeah and then she was British for however long they was married she was Jewish for a while she was gay for like a day uh well man i don't have a ton of stuff um i watched uh Jack Ryan Shadow recruit with Chris Pott. Okay. I hadn't seen it forever. And I had been watching the Amazon series of Jack Ryan, and they're coming out with a new season pretty soon.

Yeah, I got to get on that because I guess that's going to be the final season. Yeah, it's pretty good, man. The Amazon series, I've watched all of it. It's pretty awesome. I like it. I heard that's good, and the Jack Reacher series is good, too. Yes. Yeah, I was pretty impressed with the Reacher series. I guess it's more akin to the book where he's this giant hulking guy.

He's a dude from Blue Mountain State. You guys saw that. So he's not a little short Tom Cruise. Yeah. Is that Tom Cruise? Five fit six, Tom Cruise. Yeah. I was like, well, that was a weird casting decision for him.

But with that being said, I did like him as Jack Reacher in a movie. Yeah, he was pretty good. the way he shit talked to everybody before he just destroyed them. Yeah. Tom Cruise is great to make fun of because, like, his movies are still pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah, true. I think we all, I think we all had, what was the top gun Maverick in our top five last year.

Yeah. It was a good movie. And the new Mission Impossible, the stunts, I saw, like, behind the scene of some of the stunts that he actually did. I'm like, this guy is a fucking maniac. He's like Jackie Chan, probably about. the same size yeah yeah that's a good comparison brook it is like the american jacket chan less kung fu and more jumping out of planes

a lot of running yeah and uh speaking of amazon i watched uh their new series has nothing to do with horror again but uh it's called jury duty it's got i've heard great things it's funny it's been recommended to me. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a James Marsden in it. And it's like the office, but if they hired a dude who didn't know that it was a TV show, just like a real-life guy. Oh, boy. And so this guy goes in jury duty, James Marsden is there, and a bunch of other, like, e-list actors. Kind of B-list. I thought that you're getting that. That he, you know, he wouldn't recognize. nice. And the whole show is just trying not to screw this up. And James Marsden is crazy. He drops

like this gigantic shit in his toilet that's all coming up out of it. It's really good. And then at the end, they have like a really cool message. And I was like, wow, that was almost kind of heartwarming at the end after being really funny. That's pretty great. Like crazy shit keeps happening. He's like, I feel like I'm on a reality show. You kind of are, man. And that's all I got this week. But I highly recommend that. It's definitely the week.

So we can put you down for jury duty then. Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, my cool of the week was also based on a trailer that Brian had us watch. And I didn't realize until about halfway through the movie, I'm like, this filmmaking style is

really fucking familiar. And I was like, I got to look it up and see who directed this. I didn't even realize Robert Rodriguez directed the new hypnotic. I was hoping you were going to talk about this because everybody says it's a big piece of shit. Okay. Well, as usual, I'm going to be different than everybody. This could easily make it on my top ten. I fucking love this movie, man.

I adored it, man, because, yeah, Affleck, is he the best? He's definitely a better director than he is an actor, but he's passable, but the side characters are great, man, and you've got, don't think you know what's going on. That's what I like about it. And it was good seeing, what's his name, William Fickner, the guy that played the accountant in the Tom Cruise movie,

or been Tom Cruise, Nick Cage movie, Drive Angry. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was phenomenal in it. Great, great bad guy. That I can say, that's no spoiler because they reveal that in the first five minutes. But it's a mind-bending movie. I would say that it's not what I was expecting at all.

Not from Robert Dariaz. That's weird. Yeah, and dude, just when, and he wrote it, too. He co-wrote it with another guy that he's worked with before. So it's like, it's one of those movies where just when you think you're starting to figure out what's going on, they give you a big twist. and that's like maybe 20, 30 minutes into the movie, and then after that you get another twist.

It's kind of like peeling layers of an onion. It's very much like Shrek. It's really cool, man. Or like a parpe. Well, what they do about halfway through the movie, like basically everything you've been following narrative-wise literally completely flips around where absolutely nothing you thought was true was true

and everything was a lie and a fabrication. It had, I guess I'd say it had some Matrix vibes to it a little bit. It had some Truman Show vibes to it a little bit. I don't want to give too much away. But if everybody's saying that's a piece of shit, as usual, Lance disagrees with the masses. I fucking loved it, man. I was not expecting much. I thought I was going to hate it, truly.

I think a lot of people want just, you know, a good popcorn movie, and it doesn't sound like that. It's, it's, but it is still popcornish, dude, because you got the crazy, uh, set pieces. Like, there's a part where they go to Mexico and they've got this, uh, hidden bunker that this dude's saying, he's like a computer whiz. It's, uh, it's, it's pretty amazing. I, it's for me, I, I enjoyed the hell out of it. I just, it was a really fun time, man. Maybe it's because it sounds like it's something you wouldn't expect from Robert Rodriguez. Yeah, I would agree with that wholeheartedly. Maybe people that went in knowing that it was a Robert Rodriguez film was kind of expecting something else. Machete?

Yeah, I was about to ask, did Danny Trejo show up? No, unfortunately. That would have been fucking amazing if he had, but. Don't sound like a cameo? No Selma Hayek, but you had the chick that plays Queen of the South. You know what I'm talking about. Alice Braga? Alice Braga.

Yes. Yes. Easy on the eyes. Yep. For sure. But yeah, it's, I had fun with it. But I've got a, can I get in a second cool of the week this week? No.

Another one that I'm hearing a lot of hate about. Like I've got a couple of coworkers. that are like, oh man, it's gone back to the childish Star Wars again. It's not the Western that it was the first two seasons. It's all different. I'm fucking loving the Mandalorian. I've only got one more episode to go. I haven't heard anybody say anything bad about it.

Oh, I must just be the people that are my co-workers then that are assholes that don't fucking love anything. Well, tell them, though, save their hate. Tell them to save their hate. They're making new Star Wars movies. that's when everybody will. I burned out on it, man. I haven't watched the third season. But I sort of had to trudge through that second season, man.

No, you're, you'll, you'll, you'll like it, man. Let me put it to this way. There's a lot more grogoo in it, which is pretty cool. Because he's like developing his skills. And he's obviously very, very powerful with the force. Well, got to sell toys. Well, I'm super, I'm super excited about it, man. And I haven't seen the finale.

Is this supposed to be the last season, guys? Or do you guys? I have not even started the new season. All right. Well, you can get through pretty quickly. There's a couple of like 45, 50-minute episodes, but most of them are like, you know, 36 minutes or so. And there's only eight of them.

So you can get through it like in a night or two. Yeah, I was just waiting for it to end so I can binge the whole season. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm doing. man and I'm not regretting it I'm loving every bit of it man it's great yeah and I was

wondering how the Osuka show was going to go on if that was going to be more than one season because that one actor he looked like he had a big part in the series and he passed away was it Ray Stevenson oh did he yeah oh man that fell under the radar for me

I didn't didn't realize he passed away yeah well shit dude I think they're pulling it out So I had a pretty good week, man, considering most of my week we spent doing family shit. I get to barely sneak in a couple of watches. But, no, you guys check out hypnotic and tell me what you guys think about it. It's out there. Okay.

That's what I was going to ask. And it's a damn good, clean copy, too. Yeah. How was Texas Frightmare and the whole new setup? right new location set out Texas Frightmare as always

like you get there and you're a little bit nervous at first like man am I going to get the sound bites I want to get I'm going to be able to get to this person get to that person you know and you got to kind of learn

the new layout it's a little bit different I can tell you the weight to get in was like wrapped all the way through the bottom floor of the parking garage and that's when I knew it was going to be a very fucking packed frightmare so why don't you just tell them you from the horror returns to let you write in

that's kind of what happened man I was there with I met up with Alex and Chad from binge media so we kind of like the one two punch and then Ness met up with us and yeah I saw of course Nez was quite busy at Texas Frightmare

and then I seen the binge boys they got to meet a lot of people they got to meet Art yeah they got to meet John Carpenter a lot of people yeah and they actually attended the the screening of they live the night before.

I was only there Friday night, man. I'll tell you what, it was, once I got there and got in the groove and had a couple of genitonics, it was like, I felt like I was with my kind. Yeah. Just fucking amazing, dude. Just, the only thing missing was YouTube. Yeah, sorry, man.

Yeah. Yeah, if we don't do this next year together, we got to get our heads examined, boys. Yeah, we'll make it happen. It's just pure joy. man. I didn't want to leave, but alas, I had responsibilities. So, uh, yeah, I was

Chad, Chad introduced me to something called liquid IV because I've heard of this. Yes. Oh, yeah. It does work. I had a raging headache when I woke up, man. I was like, how the fuck am I going to drive home? And you mix a little bit of that stuff in a bottle of water and shake it up and you're good to go, man, at least for five or six hours.

Yeah. It does work. That too. not going to say who but I had to give some of that to somebody a couple weeks ago. They had never heard of it and I was like, it works. It does work. It does work.

As far as sound bites, man, I tried, dude. I got to Keith David's. He just wouldn't do it, man. I stuck in and got up there early and everything. I got to talk with him, shake his hand and everything, but he was just like, man, I just can't do a sound bite. There's too many people

that ask. And you tell them that's understandable you tell them how much how high we hold them up especially over David Key? I did yeah told him the whole story man and he he cracked a smile he enjoyed it but I'm not mad

I'm not mad about it at all we did definitely get some good sound bites for whenever we do our killer clown commentary that we got coming up for Sean one of these days we got the Kyoto brothers to all do an intro for us which was pretty cool a couple of other actors from the

film so we'll make it work but uh yeah dude next year we got to go and then like it said i think a Vegas trip is inevitable at some point oh yeah because uh i guess we have to now well it's funny because the flights to vegas for you brian are like literally one-fourth as much as they cost for you to get to dallas yeah that's how they get you to Vegas tell you the flights Yeah. And then they take your money away there. We won't do much gambling, but we'll definitely hit the universe.

Yeah, I'm not a... I learned my lesson one year in my early 20s about gambling in Vegas, so... You learned well, I'm sure. Yes. Take 100 bucks that you can lose and play with it. That's what I do. 100 bucks today. That's my limit, man.

It's gone and gone. And if it... Hey, and if that $100 doubles it, which is done before, I'm fucking out of there and drinking. There you go. So, yeah, it was awesome. Thanks for asking, guys. It was, like I said, the only thing missing was you two.

Well, definitely happening next year. It's just life. Life happens. It does make me happy that I got to see a picture of you and Nez together, though. Yeah, yeah, it was always good seeing Nez, man. Always good seeing Nase. And for anybody asking, there will be a wrestling returns episode filmed. I just been super busy.

Nez was ready to go with it, and I just, I couldn't do it. So it will be out this week in action. And we got some recommendations for us to do episodes on, so they will be coming. I am sure that all the listeners are fine with that, man. We got some very loyal listeners. I will tell you we gave away about 200 coosies at Frightmare, so we might have a few new listeners coming up. Sam, I got your recommendations. They're coming, definitely.

All right. So is it time, does that mean it's time for horror headlines brought to you by Brian? Yeah, a little bit more news in the past couple weeks, because it just kind of, kind of feels like everything's kind of not really moving until I think I said last week that I didn't think anything was going to pick up until Comic-Con. Sure. But we got a little bit, I don't know why this is happening, but we're getting another Resident Evil movie. But I read two different reports on it. The first report saying it's going to be a sequel to the newest one that came out,

the Welcome to Raccoon City which was not good but then I read another I think I ever saw it it's I know it makes Phil it'll make you mad because there's they have

they have they mix practical and CGI in there and the CGI is so fucking bad yeah it makes you it's so bad it makes you forget that there was

practicals in it how do we still have bad CGI at this point Jurassic part was like they brought back 30 years ago they brought back

the zombie dogs in the new one yeah yeah I'm always a fan of the zombie dogs but but they look

like cartoons like Scooby do huh Scooby doo huh Scooby Doo was a masterpiece compared to what was done

in that movie but I read a different news article saying that it's not a sequel to that one they're like they're starting fresh from all over again.

So I don't know. They're going to keep going until they get a good one and then start a new franchise. I guess. They'll probably just bring Milojovovich back. No. Nah, dude, they won't do that. They got to bring somebody like, who would y'all say would be the perfect new action, female action star for that role? kind of hard to say isn't it

I kind of liked what's her name in the last Tomb Raider movie oh yeah she was really good the one from ex machina yeah that's right that's right she

even though that wasn't a great movie she really fit the role of Laura Croft to me and I thought as if they continued it she'd probably progress and

I don't know What's the girl's name from Midsummer? Florence Pugh. Yes, I don't think she would do an action movie like that. Oh, she's... But, dude, she's... She's the new Black Widow. Is she?

Oh, that's right. She could pull it off. Which I heard she's getting... She came out and said a lot of her... A lot of the indie film scene crowd is pissed off that she's in the Marvel and MCU. Oh, come on. Jesus Christ. Stop.

somebody referred to it as Hollywood jury duty. Jesus Christ, man. Hey, give me a check. I'll be in the MCU. Yeah, you're immortalized if you make it into the MCU. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, she, she, I'm sure she's going to, it's not like she's not going to continue to do indie films and stuff like that. So, I don't know. People just don't want,

the next person to make money, I guess. But she's awesome. Like, as far as somebody that could actually do some stunts and stuff, I think she pulled it off. I like the actor. Have you, Phil, have you seen John Wickford? I have not seen it yet. Okay. There's a, Lance, you've seen it, right? Yes. The Asian actress, that she has a moment where she's kicking ass?

Sure, absolutely. Yeah, the daughter. Yeah, she was, when you, you'll see her. when you watch it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. She was kicking a lot of assing it. She looked like she was fairly young, so. How has Philip not seen? My mind just got blown. I know, dude.

How is fucking Philip not seen John Wick 4? There's a lot of movies I want to go see at the movie theater. I just don't get the opportunity very often. John Wick 4 is out there. Okay, I was going to ask if it's ready to go. It's, and it's, it's in HD. Okay, cool. I can tell you, I can tell you one thing, Brian.

when I, it was a battle to get to Boogie Man because I missed two showings of it but when I finally got to see it I was really tempted to make a right turned into the Spiderverse. Yeah. It was a tough choice. Tough choice.

Me and my, I took my daughter, we really, we wanted to see Boogie Man and Spider-Man, but you know, we were doing it for the show and... Yeah. I really want to go see the machine. The machine. Oh, yeah. Pressure one. I heard this getting pretty good reviews.

It looked like it was going to be awesome. He's funny. Better reviews than hypnotic, I guess, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Have you guys seen one cut of the dead? Yes. I don't think so.

Yeah, single shot, zombie movie, but then you find out it's like meta, because it's a movie and a movie. Huh. They, there's a French remake called The Final Cut. and it's getting a theatrical release date on July 14th so

that's cool yeah I mean I'm for it I wasn't a big fan of one cut of the dead so I thought it was a fun movie man Dona Nellie will fight you is that one of those

like a Korean movie or something yeah uh is it Korean I think it's South Korean yeah I think so they've been big on some movies lately. Yep. Let's see.

A friend of the show, Art the Clown. We'll be seeing him again. Terrify 3 begins filming later this year officially with a much bigger budget than the first two movies. Chad and I were talking about that over the weekend that we just hope the big budget doesn't kill it.

The spirit of it, you know? Might make it a good horror icon, man. he's already that three movies judging by his line at frightenary he's arrived yeah let's see

uh two thousand twenty one's wrong turn uh the writer of that uh Alan B McElroy he's hoping to make two more sequels off of that one

which uh I don't know if you got in listener feedback I won't say nothing but we've already had somebody respond to that one that wasn't a big fan of the remake. I think we'll have to cover that one next week, because I had to make the notes several days ago,

so we're going to be behind a little. Okay, yeah. Well, I'll talk about it next week. The person wasn't a, not a fan of the remake, so, which I thought it was fine. It was in my top ten, man. Yeah, it did what a remake to me,

it took elements of the original one, and it kind of made its own thing, and If you're going to do exactly what the original one was, just make a sequel to the original one then, or make another one into the franchise. So I was cool with it. Yeah, I don't remember hating it, but I kind of also don't remember it. Yeah. Let's see, there's been a lot of nightmare on Elm Street talk the past week. I don't know.

It's because as we're recording this on, what's today? Monday. I forgot what day it was. Tuesday, tomorrow is going to be Robert England Day. So, watch your favorite Robert England movies, I guess. But there's been just a lot of... Like a national holiday?

I think so. There's been a lot of hashtag Robert England Day. There's a day for everything. I know his documentary comes out on Screenbox tomorrow. There you go. But there's been a lot of talk about a new... nightmare on Elm Street movie. The Craven Estate has control of the rights again, not the studio. Okay.

Robert England has an idea how to do it. And somebody other than him has kind of stepped up to say he wants to play Freddie Kruger. I think Robert England could totally still do it. He can still pull it off. Yeah, he's not like walking around with a cane or anything. Yeah. You can do it. this person that stepped up to say it is

Gavin Sawa Oh Oh Oh my god He's got to pull Moose's head into a TV set And say welcome to I would kind of If Robert England has an idea

Yeah I would like to see Whatever this idea that Robert England has And Devon Sawa Give it a try Why not? I mean I'm all in, man.

I mean, if Robert England signed off on it, you have to at least go a shot. Because I think he wanted to, he, I think originally when I read something about his idea, it was a, it was basically, it was going to take place after the events of Dream Warriors. Okay. Okay. So do another one of those, like a Halloween type thing? Yeah. Universe. I don't know about that, but all right.

well you guys remember when we did the retrospective it kind of went downhill after three so sure did it went way downhill yeah i don't know if i want to lose all those from can yeah because those was a big part of my childhood those ones yeah same here i think i think it just kind of went downhill because how much we liked three yeah yeah yes yes agreed totally like a legitimately good movie. And then the rest of them were just schlocky bullshit. Let's see. I've got a couple more things here. Clint Howard

is working on a sequel to 1995's cult classic ice cream man. I knew you were going to say Ice cream man. Which I Ice cream man is one of those like so bad it's good horror movies.

Clint Howard is the star. Oh my God. It's not blood. It's Grenadine. What's that? It's Grenadine for my ice cream treats. I would love to see him show up in one of the new Star Trek series, reprising his role from one of the first episodes of the original series, where he played the little childish midget alien. It was like controlling everybody, but.

Oh, my gosh, I do remember that episode. Yeah, that's a lot to ask for it. the same as a child. He'd be great, man. He'd be great. Well, I don't know if you listened to last week's episode. I thought he was pretty good in the Nicholas Cage Western, the old way. Oh, yeah, the old ways. The brand new one you saw.

Yeah, he was one of the henchmen. Yeah, of course I'll listen to y'all's fucking show through and through, man. Give me a break. He looks like a henchman. Give me some credit. Let's see. and I guess we'll finish with Robert Eggers' Nasferatu remake

has wrapped filming, so we should be getting a trailer for that one. That's a that's a big plate to take a bite out of, man. Like, you're going to have to really kill that. I think our guest the last time we did a Robert Eggers film was saying he had a tendency

to, what, smell his own farts? Yeah. Yes. He was, if I remember, not a big fan of not just that movie we reviewed of Robert Eggers. I'm going to pull up, I'm going to pull up the cast list. I remember it was quite the cast he's assembled for this. It better be creepy as hell. I'm going to guess Norman Osborne is in there. Let me see.

Yes, he is. Of course. I'm going to guess the little blonde girl, what's your name, is in it? Fuck. Well, she's not a girl anymore, but she still looks like one. Anya Taylor Joy? Sure, sure. He's got a different little blonde girl.

Ah, okay. He's got Lily Rose Depp, who of course is the daughter of Johnny Depp. Strange casting, okay. Bill Scarsguard. Of course. Nicholas Holt. Of course. Aaron Taylor Johnson

Ralph Innocon Yep Ralph Inneson And Emma Corrin which I haven't recognized Her name No Robert Pattinson No I just read he's signed on to do another movie

A Batman movie Kind of indie movie Oh Of course But he's yeah a lot of people are kind of wanting to see more Aaron Taylor Johnson, especially after a bullet train. Bullet train.

He was great in that. He was great in that. He made it my favorite character in that movie. His name's been popping up, James Bond talk. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. I could see that. And he doesn't have to fake the accent, which people were surprised to find.

out that was his actual accent. That, see, and he throws in in bullet trains some like UK slang that you wouldn't otherwise hear from anyone else. Yeah, it was like the weirdest thing. I was listening to a review, and they thought Brian Tyree Henry, the one that played his twin. Yeah. They thought he was really British. Yeah. And they thought Aaron Taylor Johnson was doing an accent, which he helped Brian Tyree Henry with his accent,

because he was teaching him like the, the, the. slang and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So. Pretty cool, bro. Pretty cool, bro. Straight out of Guy Ritchie movie.

Nospheratu is due to come out sometime. I don't know. Probably Halloween, you think? If they wrapped filming, I would say before the end of the year, yeah. Okay.

That'd be awesome. Good Halloween movie for sure. I wonder who's playing Nussferatu. I was wondering that too. Bill Scarsguard, probably. Oh, probably so, yeah. Yeah, Count Orlock is Bill Scarscar. Okay.

I can see it. Okay. I'm sure I'll have the long fingers, right? He better. Willem Defoe was in it and he's not playing Nostratu? Well, yeah, but Nisphiratu doesn't age, man. So it'd be hard for Defoe to pull that off. Well, he already played Nassiratu, didn't he?

Did he? Was he in the shadow of the vampire? Was that him? Yeah, that was him. There you go. There you go. And they got Nicholas Holt in this one? Uh-huh.

Does he play Renfield or what? would be amazing. Is there a Winfield in Nosferatu? I have not seen Nasferatu in shit. I can't even tell you how long. Been a while. Maybe we'll maybe I'll revisit for my 31 days this year. Yeah.

Well, if Nasferatu comes out this year, definitely beyond the schedule. Nice. Yeah, we've never covered it. All right. That's the news. all right Philip you ready yeah man let's take a little trip

down to the trailer park you got it Brian bring us the big the small and the very very weird everybody's been asking for it yeah Black Mirror season 6 all right

which they advertised as like I think they said five films yes I noticed that. And then it said, and the first red mirror? What is that all about? Well, it looked like one of the episodes was somebody watching a Netflix series

that was based on their lives, and they were kind of flipping out. Like, that's not what I say. That's not what I did. Yeah. Yeah, that one looks a little more better. Yeah, I kind of like that. The old social media thing, huh? and of course I've seen some recognizable faces in there Salma Hyac

Aaron Paul I think I've seen senior girl in there near the end Zazi beats oh yeah I noticed Zazi right away but it definitely the tone and just everything going on it looks like a step above the last season well I think anything would it would have

been right philip uh yeah well i mean it's hard for something like black mirror because it's been so consistently good and then to have a season that's just sort of okay it makes it seem like it sucks so i hopefully they live up to it yeah um nothing too much to say about it so uh i mean i'm excited about it here in a couple weeks. It comes out June 15th. Yeah. I mean, you got to get some real creative ideas in there to make that show work. Yeah. It's

hard to keep up with that, I imagine. Yeah, especially because those early episodes were so good. Yeah. Yeah, the pig fucking. Yeah. That's the first episode. A guy fucks a pig in the very first episode. And then he shows up as like

12 different people in the in the movie man last year. That guy, I can't think of his name. That guy's a good actor. Yeah. I want to say Rory Calhoun, but it's not Rory Calhoun. That's going way back. Rory Culkin, maybe, or?

I'm pretty excited about the Aaron Paul episode, because you guys know I love the, I love my space, deep space horror movies. Well, they got to top that one with Fat Damon, though. Yeah. Yeah, that one was a good one, but that was almost kind of tongue-in-cheek. This doesn't look like more of a real true, you know, horrors of space, you know, going mad in space for being out there alone so many years in a row. Because when they said they got them out going crazier and crazier over the course of two years.

Yeah. Like, it's just the two people on a fucking spaceship. Rory Keneer. There you go. There is. I was close. I was close. that's the cokin from a succession right which i i've watched a i don't know what it's called uh is it called

actors panel or whatever okay where they get a bunch of it was um yeah i can't think it was uh damn i'm just completely blank my mind uh different different people from From Succession? It was Pedro Pascal. It was Roy Coulken. Okay. It was Idris. I can't think of his name.

He's in that show, Snowfall. He's the lead actor. Okay. It was the dude from, what's his name? Jeff. Welcome to my world. No. We really know movies, boys.

The dude. That dude. Yeah, Labowski. He was there and what's his name? That played Dahmer on the Netflix series. Oh, yeah.

From American Horror Story. Yeah. Talking about, okay. It was basically, they do like every time you can watch them on YouTube. They have like different actors or directors or something and they just ask them a bunch of questions. And it was very interesting.

Jorge Colkin has turned into a pretty decent actor, man. I like him. Yeah, he kind of took over the panel because I think he was just impressed by all the people he was surrounded with. So he was kind of asking more questions than the host was. He was like the host would ask a question to Pedro Pascal, and then he would ask a follow-up question. And it seemed like he was just super excited to be there. Yeah, like legitimately interested. Yeah.

That's pretty cool, man. We might get one talented Culkin actor out of all this. You shut your whore mouth. Home alone was amazing. Somebody was a take a shot at me for that one. And before I blank out on anything else, that was the only trailer.

All right, black mirror, man. I'm excited. And a red mirror. What do you think they mean by red mirror? Or is it like more horror theme maybe? Well, there was one. They kind of flashed the titles of each episode throughout the trailer. And there was one called The Demon.

So that one kind of looked like it was going to be like more horror. Okay, I think so too. And it almost had kind of a grind house look to it, didn't it? Yeah. As long as they incorporate technology and stuff like that. I'm all good because that was always like the backbone of the series of me. I'm calling it now. The Red Mirror episode,

she's in a virtual VR game because she's a huge horror fan, and she realizes she doesn't want to be in there and just trying to get out. They did that one. Oh, yeah, they did. They kind of did. Kurt Russell, son. Yeah. Maybe the Red Mirsel's.

is a little more, maybe that's the one where she's watching Netflix or whatever, and it's a little more meta. All right, but we'll see. I'm sure we're not going to be disappointed. Yeah. Well, hopefully. Yes. All right. On to listener feedback. This week, we shine the podcast spotlight on Strange Brew, a podcast not for the Fianapark or the easily offended. Right up our alley. All right.

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They commented, oh, my lordy, you were awesome for shouting out our show. Thank you. That's cool. All right. Cool. We're going to get those guys on, man. They started talking conspiracies. It's got to happen.

It's got to happen. And true crime. I watched some true crime thing this week. I can't remember what it was, but I'll think of it later, probably. Yeah. I'm not a true crime guy, but you start. talking aliens and I get to listen to Phil ramble on and

always look forward to that. I've done some deep dive into alien stuff. It depends on what the subject is. I get pulled in like earlier this week I kind of went down a rabbit hole of Kobe Bryant death conspiracies. Oh really? Yeah. There's like

so many out there. Some are kind of like you're like, huh. But others are like No, they're all conspiracy on why he died, that it wasn't an accident. They see, I. Just like Martin Luther King. And then there's also Kobe Bryant conspiracies on why he only scored 81 points in the famous game where he scored 81 points and not 100. Because the NBA wouldn't allow him to.

Oh, come on. So are they saying it was a beef thing? Like, were somebody off them or what? Um, there was a lot of Illuminati shit on in there. See, it's becoming too powerful. We're going there. And then there was always... ...shout Kobe when they throw a paper in a basket.

And then there was talk of a lawsuit that he was suing somebody for hundreds of millions of dollars. And that one kind of got debunked because they basically said it couldn't have been that because he was kind of on the downside of that lawsuit. suit. It looked like he was going to not win the lawsuit anyway, so why, you know. So I don't know. It's wacky stuff. And then the 81 points kind of led to the LeBron will never break the all-time scoring record. And they had all these, like, conspiracy theories.

And it was, of course, a couple months ago. So he's done broke that. Damn. But there are some interesting ones, but after you read some of them, you just kind of like a lot of people have a lot of time on their hands. Well, check out a strange brew if you want to look into the weirdness. I'm sure they talk about it. And Brian just added a poll. How would you rate the Psycho franchise, overrated or underrated?

And we're waiting on the results. So please join us on our Facebook group and cast. your vote. Yeah. I'm going to say way underrated. Yeah, I had to make these notes like on Monday. So it's been a while. Okay.

And regarding sleepaway camp, Nez posted met M-E-G. I guess Meg at Frightmare. So that's awesome. Was she there? Yeah, Nez was all over the Frightmare. He, or the Sleepway Camp. guys they were all lined up in a row and he was taking his uh his uh steel book cover and having them all fucking sign it oh that's good he probably dropped 200 bucks just

unsleeping man i bet he's got memorabilia galore at his house though i'm sure uh regarding the old way uh Cameron scott says uh i watched this one on the big screen during its brief theatrical run and enjoyed it quite a bit Yeah, it's not a bad Western And Like I said, it's always fun to see Nick Cage It's just fun to see him act

But you wouldn't think he'd do a Western But then you got to think There's not much that Nick Cage Won't say no to us No, I could see him do anything He did a Japanese Futuristic Western two years ago, right? Yeah, he reviewed it

The one where he blew off testicles. That may be the best scene in any movie ever. I went back and watch it like four times. That's a tough one, man. I never would have thought

when Nick Cage came out that he would be like one of my favorite actors right now. Yeah. Because he's done some stinkers. Sorry, Bid. That's it for listener

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and did terrible things to their mommies. But you can't kill the boogeyman. Now, the most terrifying nightmare of childhood returns. The boogeyman. He's going to get you. And you. Had it's on. You can't hide.

The boogeyman, he's going to get you. We'll start with 1980. both based on the Stephen King short story. Through the reflection in the mirror, a girl who witnesses her mother's boyfriend, a girl witnesses her mother's boyfriend's murder. Okay. Director is Uli Lamele, also known for killer nurse and cocaine cowboys.

The documentary? I guess so. He's got a knack for names on that one. Yeah, that's the, what's her name, Griselda Blanco? okay like basically like the

head of the the cartel back in the 80s yeah Medellin cartel yeah that's a good documentary okay cool writers are Uli Lamele and

Susanna Love and David Herschel the house used for the exterior shots of Lacey and Willie's childhood home was located in La Plata, Maryland. And in 2004, was severely damaged by a tornado. I thought it was in Amityville by the looks of the house. I know. Yeah, Brian, dude, the whole time I was watching this,

so I thought, is this one of Brian's Amityville movies? It sort of got that vibe to it, doesn't it? That's bad, yeah. Albert Zug Smith suggested to Uli Lemell that he should cast John Caradine in a secondary role in order to an end. enhance the film's overall commercial appeal. And Carradine's scenes were all shot in a single day. All right.

The movie wasn't shot in a single day. When was John Caradine? I have no idea. I probably was the priest, but I think he was like the doctor or the psychiatrist. Is he a Caradine, Caradine? I don't know. I was just going to, I was kind of wondering that while I was saying it. I was like, is that the same, like, David Caradine?

I know there's a bunch of brothers that act. Well, there's a lot of caridans out there. Lance, what did you think about this one? You kind of get your hand already. How did you pick? Oh, you just picked it because of the title, Brian, or had you heard of this before? I've heard of it.

It's still based on Stephen King, right? Not this one, was it? No, if it is, it's loosely based. Yeah. Okay, well, then I lied. I have seen this one. Am I going first or is Lance Cohen? Go ahead, right?

You go first. I'm trying to still process this one. Okay. I saw this one a long time ago when I was a young kid. Right. And the reason I went with this one is because the 2005 version, we already did that one when we mistakenly did it with the Candyman because we didn't know there was going to be a sequel to Candyman. how many boogeyman movies are there?

Well, there's this one, and then the one we did, the 2005 version, and then there's like two or three sequels to that one. Oh, my God. And then there's the Rob Zombie remake of I'm Your Boogie Man. Yeah. This is a weird movie. Yeah. Because, Phil, the synopsis you read is not what I was getting really.

I mean, that is what happened in the movie, but... Yeah, they don't really explain who those people are, though, at first. Like, there was a whole moment of time where I was like, wait, what just happened? Yeah, it's, you start, the movie starts off, and it's these kids' mom, she's about to get it in with her boyfriend and weirdly puts a stocking cap over his head, so he looks, he kind of looks like a fucking psycho with it on. Yeah. And the kids are watching. That scene reminded me so much of the way you guys described. What was that one movie where the guy had the sock face or something like that, the one I missed?

Oh, come on. Help me out here, Brian. I'm hanging. Don't really be hanging, man. Not doing a great job to remember and shit. Okay. I remember you said that it was like a YouTube star that was in it that made the movie. Oh, that the one, it was like a.

smiley smiley oh were they yeah I got you yeah so you get the kids they get caught peeping in the window and then they allude to the older kid the brother

gets beat and then he gets tied to the bed and the little sister frees him and then she goes and stabs the boyfriend to death and then the movie makes you think that

He's kind of a psycho killer because you flash forward to him working on a farm. And for a second there, I wasn't quite placing that that was his sister with him. Yeah. And then I don't know if they mentioned right away or it took a while for them. He even mentioned that they moved in with their aunt and uncle because it was just kind of a lot of stuff like you don't find out right away. Yeah. They just stick you in the middle of a situation and really don't explain it. which is fine sometimes but yeah and it was just kind of weird because it just sometimes i i i don't mind

a movie kind of doing mr x yeah but it just really felt like two different movies like two different movies i saw like seven or eight jumbled together here poorly he was definitely in there somewhere well you get the brus gorge you get the brother who you may think is like kind of psycho Then the sister starts having these kind of breakdowns. So you kind of maybe think maybe, because you don't actually see the brother stab the mom's boyfriend. So you kind of like, is it the sister? Then for say, when you said it, I thought it was the brother that stabbed him.

Yeah, it is. But they just kind of made me think that maybe it wasn't because she keeps having these breakdowns. And he's other than not talking, he's just, he's fine. and then for some reason yeah yeah for some reason the husband of the sister wants to take her back to

hold on my dogs I'm glad I'm glad Brian is explaining this movie to me it's certainly yeah I'm kind of explaining it to myself oh that helps yeah he he has a great idea of taking her back to see her mother's and the old house

they live in, and that's when it gets revealed of this supernatural mirror that I was just kind of like, what the fuck is happening? Maybe this should have been with Oculus. Yeah. Oh, my God. The mirror that turns red, and then the priest is like

getting involved at that point. Where the fucking come from? Which, I'll give it credit. The movie kind of gets wacky after the mirror part. sure but I think I don't know Lance if you saw the same version I did I saw a copy on YouTube yeah I did I did too I went I went YouTube it was it

was available to me but I went the YouTube route did you feel that it was an edited copy not really there's a scene because they go to the the old house they live in and there's a family there but they're selling the house so they allow them to look around because they think they're they pose as buyers for it and then the mirror gets broke and then they take the mirror with them for some fucking reason right to go hang it back at their house you i don't know why would you hang a broken mirror that's

a piece of the broken mirror is left at the the old house yes yes and then it kind of makes you think somebody's there killing them the the boogeyman and there's a scene where one of the the the ladies there, she gets her shirt cut open. Yes. But it doesn't show her get a shirt cut open. Yes, as tends to happen. But it

just, just the way it was shot, I'm just like, was there nudity in this movie and they cut it out? I don't think there was because I'm pretty, well, I mean, it's possible that I was watching a YouTube version too. I think I saw some side boots. Yeah. But that was hilarious.

when that lady's little brother popped in the bathroom window and he was like, the boogeyman and then the window like slammed shut on him. That was crazy. Like not very fast at all and he just sort of turns his head sideways and I'm like, so is he dead now?

Because when you meet him, you're just kind of like, he's kind of a little shit. When's he going to die? And then he pops in the window. He's like, the boogeyman. And then the window slams on me. I was like, I don't, I don't, I don't feel like that was a kill shot.

Nah, it didn't look like it did it, but. But it's just, it's weird because I don't, it doesn't really explain how powerful this mirror is. Because. Or really anything about it. Yeah, because the little, the sister has a son. Uh-huh. And he steps on a piece of the broken mirror, which stuck to the bottom of the shoe, which I guess brings the book. the boogie man's power to the beach

and because he's flashing it on a couple, they get killed? Yeah, what's with the, like, wasn't there like a, I don't know, like a smores stick stuck through the guy's face and then the chick kissed him and they were... Oh, no, it was a kitchen knife.

Was it? Oh, I thought it was like a skewer or something. I don't know what it was. Terrible, man. Which I kind of thought that was a fun kill because it stuck the back of his head and she went and kissed him and then the boogeyman's horse pushed them together all their friends took off and said okay well they're making out see you later guys yeah at least the boogeyman's got a good sense of humor yeah they were like how long can they kiss for but it's just the story was jumbled there there was some entertaining moments but it was on a

this is kind of horrible. It's entertaining. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm explaining it to you guys. I'm explaining it to the listeners, and I'm also explaining it to myself, and I don't know what the fuck

happened. Yeah. Mostly because we don't expect you to go watch this one. Yeah. Well, I don't know, man. When I posted on Facebook, I had like 10 or 11 likes, I'm like, what the fuck? It's just like a cult classic, like the room? or something like that.

Nez and all his body counts. I guarantee you Nez gives this a 10 on 10. Hell of good. On top of that, it was kind of stuck in that weird time period. It is 198, but it felt like a 70s movie. Oh, for sure. Yeah, kind of looked like X a little bit, right? Like that same vibe feel.

See, but if it had been done now, like, I think with the mirror situation, and they would have gone into like a ring type situation where they track down the history of the mirror and why this thing exists and find out some kind of history on it. Yeah, if they do this story of the boogeyman, you have to explain the mirror. Yeah.

But they don't. Because was this mirror supernatural before the mom's boyfriend got killed or did he transfer his evil spirit into the mirror? And if so, was the mirror magical the whole time? or some good questions man that shitty bad guy and then at the end when

they're leaving the grave side of I'm assuming was it their aunt and uncle because they get killed right I guess sure I don't really explain anything the piece of the broken mirror gets comes off of the little boy's shoe and I'm like is somebody going to rise from the grave

from the little piece of mirror. Like, how powerful is this mirror? Yeah, it was like some kind of little cliffhanger ending. They don't explain anything, dude. They just go places and do things, and then people get killed along the way. Were there any sequels to this, Brian? I don't think so. Okay.

Thank God. Lance, what do you think? But how do you explain that it was the Amityville House that they were in? Isn't that weird? was in Maryland Yeah Okay Oh it was a mirror

Universe Amityville movie Maybe That's the other side of the beard That makes sense Man I gotta I gotta tell you When I first started

Watching this movie I thought Brian was Was having us on man I thought Because you got the music Boom Yeah it was kind of bad And he's like

Rubbing on her Rubbing on her thigh And like Come over here Big boy and it's like, Brian, you got us watching a fucking porno, man. It was really bad. There's definitely going to be some bush in that one.

I thought for sure. Yeah, we kind of got cheated, didn't we? I mean, we were, we were, we were teased. We were the ones that got seriously teased on that one. Okay. They interrupt you real quick. John Caradine is the son, as the father of David Caradine. Okay.

And he was in the movie, he was the doctor, the psychiatrist. Yeah, the psych, okay. Yeah, I thought it was there. Well, I thought maybe he was going to be the priest, because I saw like a picture on IMDB, and you show the priests there holding a crucifix. I'm like, how is this going to fit in to this movie? Like 30 minutes in Tim.

Like, it has nothing to do with this. But I guess it made sense once the mirror turned red. And was that Satan in the mirror? Sure. I mean, fucking bizarre movie, man. And yeah, obviously very poorly edited.

Yeah, yeah, had a sense of humor with the fucking spike through the mouth and the kiss, but it's kind of like a dumb sense of humor. Like, it wasn't really even that funny to me.

Like, I mean, to me, to me, Renfield this year had some great horror slash humor. Oh, yeah.

Sean of the Dead, Sean of the Dead, had some great horror slash humor. This one was just, kind of stupid. I mean, like all over the place, poorly edited. Very. Another

another part of the movie that just popped in my head was you get the scene of the brother he's working in the barn and that lady comes to get the eggs and then she's like hitting on him. Yeah. Was he choking her because he wanted to choke her or was he being

controlled because the mirror had got there yet? He was, I I hate to say it, dude, but that scene reminded me so much of Simple Jack. Yeah. When he was like, I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. Never go for a retard.

I'm sorry, man. I don't mean to be offensive, but I honestly got that vibe from, man. But after they destroyed the mirror, he talks again at the end perfectly. Yeah, that's weird, too. Where did that come from? Well, and so when he picks that chick up by the. the neck, he's like about to choke her out, and then he sees himself in a mirror. And it's like, oh, maybe this is not a good idea.

So I'm like, are you a psycho? I, I honestly think this guy thought he, or whoever directed this thought they were making the ultimate masterpiece, you know, we just don't get it. It's just above our level, I guess. I just don't get it. This is probably like, this is probably like, this could have been Ari Oster if you caught a break, right? Yeah, there you go. Makes less sense than an Arioster film.

How about that? This is a stinker. This is a stinker, boys. What do you think, Phil? Yeah, it was just a, kind of a schlocky slasher movie. And then There weren't even that many kills I know it was like a

fucking window that fell on his head Yeah It was fucking amazing You had that kid You had both his sisters You had the couple at the beach That's five Okay

You had the aunt and uncle that's seven Yeah No real gore man Yeah none of the kills are real good I Honestly I felt like the cut we've seen was edited.

Maybe. I don't know that it was. I think it was just bad editing the movie. I think Phillips right, man, because it was the same exact time to the second, Brian, as the one that I had available. But I watched YouTube because I was

at work and I didn't have access to my other means. So I think this is, I don't think, I think there's only one cut. Just like one cut of the dead, I think there's only one cut of the buggy man. Well, and I watched it by other means, but it's possible they could have

just picked up the YouTube feed. I don't know, man. There's no town. Yeah, I'm looking at the runtime and matching it up with the cut, the copy on YouTube is the same. It's the same. So maybe Yeah, maybe they had

to take scenes out to get a specific rating or something. Maybe. Because, you know, this was back this was in the 80s, which is coming off to 70s. Well, I mean... Maybe the rating they had got the... Because you remember horror films back then were getting like the X rating and stuff like that. Well, I'll tell you this.

The second movie we're going to watch was PG-13, but I thought it had more scares in it than this one. By a lot. Like in the first 10 minutes. Well, I mean, it's hard to get scared when you're laughing at a kid. getting crushed by a window. That's such a goopy kill. That could have come out of like a comedy movie. And he says it's the boogeyman. I was like, you dummy.

Aye, aye, aye. Yeah, man. It was edited. It was all over the place. It was, maybe there's a good movie somewhere on the cutting room floor, and we just don't know about it. But, yeah,

was not digging this one. I got distracted. was playing with my phone and I'd look up and see a kid get squashed by a mirror and I was like really or not the mirror of the window and it just it felt like a really a really bad 70s slasher movie and then they just sort of threw a couple supernatural elements in there but they didn't explain anything or who anybody was it was like people just kept coming on the screen and I'm like who the fuck is that guy and they brought in a priest. Was this film before or after the

Amityville horror, guys? After. Yeah. I think it was just a straight cash grab from that. Kind of like all the movies that came out after Jaws, like Gator. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. That's my guess. I don't know. Yeah.

Who knows? But a lot of people like it. Like I said, man, when I post it on Facebook, I got like 11 likes or loves. So there's a cult base out there somewhere for it. All 11 of them. Maybe Vinegar Syndrome will release a special version or something. I just looked it up, Lance.

It went on pre-order. Of course. Of course it did. These are like completest. The people who just really, really love horror movies. That is my company. Vinegar's syndrome. They make a lot of good releases on shitty movies.

movies. Well, maybe they'll have a director's cut. You don't do, I doubt it. That's just probably long gone. Buried under a cocaine. I have to get it then. Brian, with your score on this one. You know what?

I'm going to be fair. Good. I was entertained. Not by the reasons they wanted me to be entertained by. the story was jumbled um i honestly felt like some of the kills were kind of cut out and edited very poorly because if you're going to cut something out don't just i don't know it was just poorly edited i'm not an editor yeah um the acting was not good but again i was entertained because it's just so bad and you just have so many questions so

I'll give it a five oh wow that's expected it to be right in the middle Lance what you think you know what I'm going to be fair all kidding aside it's I mean somebody made a movie but we do go on a scale of one to ten here

so I'm going to be real it's a one Ouch This is one of the worst ones We've seen it in a long time, boys. I have to ask you, is this better than two Jennifer? It is slightly better. Didn't we give two, Jennifer, a negative something or a zero? Pretty sure I did.

I think there was one score of a one. Because we agreed that it was a movie, so. Yeah, I hate to say it, Brian. But this was kind of in that camp for me, man. It's just really bad. Really bad. Yeah. I don't know.

The boyfriend with the thing on his head was fucking stupid, man. Like, that's not a scary bad guy. Yeah, did we ever figure out... At least make him disfigured or something, you know? Did we ever figure out if he was the boogeyman supernaturally or... It sort of seemed that way because they were talking about the ghost of the... the boyfriend. But how did they know?

Also true. They didn't do any research. We could have seen that if they had come out with it today and done a ring. Just go watch Oculus instead. It's the same movie. There you go. What the Foculus, right, Brian? And we're doing that one in a couple weeks, I think.

Oculus? Yeah. Isn't that on there? I don't know. I thought I saw it. Maybe. I don't look at the schedule when I get it out. Yeah, maybe you were dreaming of seeing that instead of this.

That was a good movie. This one, however, it was not. I'm going to go... Are we sure are doing, Oculus. I did put down the schedule. There it is. I'm going to go three, I think. There you go.

And I feel like I'm kind of just being nice. Well, to be fair, you know. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe don't watch that one. When there are scary things we don't understand, our minds try to fill in the blanks. Sometimes the best thing to do is to face it.

So this light is going to be completely silent like it is right now. And gradually, it's going to start flashing until it's totally dark. So you can see that there's nothing to be afraid of. Okay? See, that's not so scary, is it? Just you, your sister, and me. You're doing okay? It's not for you. It's all just in your head.

You believe me? Don't you? There's no such thing as monsters. You need to grow up. Serious Sawyer. Manifestations. This is supposed to be. It's the thing that comes for your kids when you're not paying attention.

Listen to me. Okay. I'm listening. Sweetheart, let me handle it. And we'll roll on to the boogeyman. A new release, still reeling from the tragic death of their mother. A teenage girl and her little brother

find themselves plagued by a sadistic presence in their house and struggle to get their grieving father. They brought her little brother? Oh, they did. Okay. Well, it's like I and B. The movie. Anyway, to get their grieving father to pay attention before it's too late.

Makes no sense. That's not the movie, but okay. Yeah, not really. Director is, their descriptions are almost always kind of bad. Lately. Director is Rob Savage, also known for host and dash cam. Entertaining movies. writers are Scott Beck, Brian Woods, and Mark Heyman.

It was originally meant to be released straight to streaming on Hulu, but the strong exception from the test screening prompted 20th Century Studios to give it a wide theatrical release. Some scenes were so intense that they had to be changed after the test screening, really. The audience... Oh, man. I know. The audience screamed so loud that important dialogue after the scene was lost. We'll just give it some room to breathe, man.

Read the room. Yeah. Have a silent moment. Like, have the people that got scared in the movie kind of gathered themselves for a second. The editing was changed to put in pauses so that the dialogue could be heard. Oh, okay. There you go. That makes sense.

There you go. Should have read that first. All right, Lance, what did you think about the new boogeyman? Oh, my God. I really wanted to go into this movie wanting to hate it because host was good for what it was. Dashcam, we had tons of fun with, Brian, I think you'd agree. I mean, everybody fucking hated her, but that was kind of like part of the fun. Yeah, that's the point.

You're supposed to not like her. Yeah, and it went totally batshit crazy toward the end. And I really wanted to find time to reread the short story before I watched it so I could kind of judge how close it was to the actual story. If it was either, you know, a lawnmower man situation or a graveyard shift situation or whatever, but, yeah, didn't get time. I don't remember the story too well. I read it decades ago.

I wasn't too disappointed with this movie, man. I actually kind of enjoyed it. Yeah, it was PG-13, and you could kind of tell that they were pulling back on a few things. But there were some, I mean, there were some really legitimate skills. airs in this movie. There was, okay, so there is definitely a huge movement going on right now with movies about grieving, right? So you've got smile, you've got, you know, where grief follows you around, you get smile, you got with the Babadook, you got countless films, right, that we've reviewed lately that, you know, it's probably not a big surprise or a spoiler that there's something

here, you know, that's sort of similar to that. I kind of thought, well, I'm worried they're going to go too far in that direction without doing their own thing. But I was pleasantly surprised, man. I felt the acting, especially from the older little girl and the shit that she had to put up with at school after going through an absolute tragedy that no one could have to go through was she did a great convincing job. Her friend was a total bitch, and she was very convincing.

Yeah. The older daughter was, she's on that show, yellow jackets. She's great in it, man. She's kind of like the wild child one in that one. But, yeah, she did a good job. I really felt for the little girl. And maybe it's because, you know, I've, you know, a granddaughter probably around that age.

And I'm thinking, holy shit, you know. She's got that little glowing moon that she rolls around to see what's in the room because she thinks there's a monster in the closet and stuff like that. That definitely pulled on my heartstrings. I mean, there were some scenes throughout this film that definitely, you know, I found pretty touching, and I thought they all did a good job. The father was passable. The guy that showed up, he's definitely a weird-looking actor,

which his weirdness really helped watch. Yeah, Pocodot Man. Yeah, that's right. Pocodot Man himself. That's right. That's who the fuck that is. I was trying to think. Yeah, without, I mean, without going into spoiler territory,

I was pleasantly surprised with this movie. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. And there were some pretty, I mean, obviously pretty CGI-ish, but there were some fairly decent special effects in that third act where things kind of went bad shit crazy. And I enjoyed the movie. I really did. I got to admit, I enjoyed it.

I thought a lot of it was the acting from the two little girls. I thought they were fantastic. I mean, I thought they were perfect. So, yeah, pleasant surprise. I almost didn't expect that from you. Yeah, I thought I was going to hate it, man. I tried so hard to hate it. I got to have a bottom 10.

As usual, just like last year, Brian, I'm going to struggle. But I can't get it. That's a good thing. Yeah. It is a good thing. Yeah, it is a good thing. good for horror, right? Yeah, because I think the top first three or four on my bottom 10 were movies that any other year probably wouldn't have been on my bottom 10.

Yep. I hear you, man. Well, what did you think about this movie, Brian? I'm with Lance. I was a little worried coming in this, especially. I'm like, yeah, it's a good thing that they pulled it from. from Hulu because they felt like it needed to be in the theater. But then I was kind of thinking,

am I going to end up watching a movie that I felt like I should be watching at Hulu at home? If it was on Hulu at home, though, it'd be too dark. Yeah. Oh, yeah, very dark movie. In the theater, it works. It being pulled and put in the theater was the right choice because of the, like you said, the dark,

everything happened in the dark, the whole aesthetic, the atmosphere, everything. Sorry about the dog's barking aside. I got them going, too. I don't know if there's a fucking helicopter over here or what, man. They're after me. It worked for the big screen. This type of movie should be seen in a theater in the dark.

And it worked. I thought I agree with you, Lance. I enjoyed the acting from the two daughters in this. The dad, again, I agree with you. he was he did what he was supposed to do he was just there to kind of he was there to not be there for the kids sure sure so but i thought the little girl i thought she was uh fantastic she she really made me feel like she was going through some trauma and was actually kind of was like did they make this little girl believe that there is a boogeyman because

at her and then this is not a spoiler it's a very beginning. The baby and the crib. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. They must have did something to scare the shit out of that little kid in the kidding. Uh-huh. That was rough. Well, they started it out rough, huh?

Yeah. I was like, it was rough, but I was like, this is pretty fucking good. Because I really feel like these children are terrified. The oldest daughter, I like what she was, that they portrayed what she was going through at school with her fucking shitty out.

friends, which I one of them I kind of felt like didn't really get their comeuppance. That was probably one of my least favorite moments of the movie. The Boogie Man, very CGI, but it didn't bother me because he was mostly in the dark moving

quickly throughout the shadow. Yeah, he doesn't. It's one of those where they don't really show the monster in the end to hope that Yeah, which is good. Which is good. Yeah. David Dalsh I can't pronounce.

I can never pronounce it. Pocodot, man. Yeah. I want to hit a little bit more in the movie. I know. He's so good. He played his part. He definitely played his part.

Before we jumped on to record, I read a part of a little interview. He almost wasn't in the movie because he felt like the part was a little too dark to be in. Yeah, it was definitely dark. Yeah, the character that he had to play and the subject matter. talk about. Right. So, but I'm glad he's... He could definitely play those characters.

Yeah, so I did want maybe kind of a flashback of excuse me, of him dealing with the boogeyman in their situation. Yeah. That way you could... Because I think he's a great actor in the roles that he's in.

So just a little nitick, but overall, I took my daughter. We both had a fantastic time. there was one scene that got her I knew it was coming about it got her but we must wait and I thought it was a good

good ending it kind of may have kind of left things open for a sequel or could it just or could it just finished where it is and yeah oh yeah that specific ending I know what you're

was it just me or did you guys almost kind of shed a tear toward the end of the bat shit crazy part when the family kind of came together? Oh, yeah. I mean, it was very emotional. It was well-wrought. I mean, this guy, the dad was going through some stuff.

I get it, but, you know, he was kind of the shit dad in some parts of the movie because he completely just... Is there anyone in this room or in their podcasts that can't say at some point? We've been a shit dad. Yeah, but I've never ignored my kids that much. Well, he was going through some shit that we haven't.

Yeah, for a single dad, his wife having died and trying to hold it together, I feel like he was actually, I feel like this was one of the first times they didn't show a dad that was just a complete. I don't know. I just, I don't know, maybe we just have a difference of opinion. But there's a scene in it when she's like, trying to talk to you and he's just he basically Keanu's her just yeah

and it walks off yeah I know and it walks off and I'm like yeah the fuck guy but I saw what they were trying to do he was dealing with his stuff to the point where

of course he's not going to pay attention to the kids talking about a boogie man in the closet you know yeah so so yeah I and I that's that's really my only disagreement with anything you guys have said is I I really liked the dad in this movie I thought he did awesome yeah yeah and he he had definitely had some moments where he was negligent the movie couldn't have happened if he wasn't but uh I feel like that he played it well and it was one of the first times that I've seen a dad in a movie that like I said is not a total fucking jerk off and uh you know what I mean And like he was actually, like he did stop and listen to his kids and ask him questions and stuff like that a couple of times.

You know what? Now that you're talking about it, I thought about it real quickly and I kind of changed my mind because he, in the beginning he was trying. Yeah. I think as time went on and grief was setting in and everything, I think that's when he started becoming more distant. So I take back what I said. And of course, he's going to be the last one to believe that there's a buggy man. You know what I mean? Well, he's a man of science, right?

Yeah. So. And I thought everybody in the movie did a really good job. Yeah, the daughters were awesome. I really, I loved the creature through the first two-thirds of the movie where they didn't really show it. You just maybe saw a glimpse of something in the background or some eyes. and man, it was just really intense

horror scene and then really great character development and then start to cycle over again through the whole movie. Like they would scare the shit out of you and they had some really good scares. Like I felt like this movie was

like real horror tense, not just jump scares. It was like scary situations. A lot of emotions too. Yeah. And a lot of emotion and because the acting was so good, they had really great character to build. Like, I actually cared about this family.

I was like, oh, man, I really hope nothing bad happens. And, you know, since I had kids, I turned into a big old bitch, so I'll cry at all kinds of stuff. And I took the kids to this one. They loved it, too. And it was actually my 12-year-old son sitting beside me where, like I could tell, he was sort of freaking out a little bit a couple of times. Like, leaned over. I was like, man, is this?

It's a PG-13 movie. It's pretty intense. Right. But, yeah, I definitely recommend seeing this one in the theater in particular, because I don't know how it's going to play on TV. It might be too dark where you don't see everything, you know? But in a theater with the sound and everything, this was a really good movie. I was super impressed with it. I was very surprised.

This may end up on a top 10 list. Holy shit. Yeah. That was a good movie. All right. Let's give Stores, and I want to hear about the scene you're talking about, Brian. Lance, what your score? It's a solid seven, man.

I don't think it's going to end up on the top ten, but it's sure as fuck not going to end up where I thought it was going to, which was going to be the bottom ten. So, yeah, I enjoyed it, man. Seven on ten. Brian? This is a great introduction to horror for kids, but still with enough there for adults, like the whole grieving aspect and all, like the family stuff, I think it'll pull in the adults.

And like I said, there was a lot of CGI, but that was covered up excellently, I think, with the shadows and the quick movements of the boogeyman. And we didn't even talk about the boogeyman able to, I don't know if this is a spoiler. I'll wait. Yeah, I know. I wanted to talk about a couple of things about the creature itself. But I think if you're kind of working your way, your kids into horror, and you kind of want to get them out of the kiddie stuff and try to slowly moving into a little bit, something a little bit more intense.

I put that in this category. and I thought everybody was good in it. So I'm not going to give it an 8 yet, but I'm going to give it a 7.75. It's almost an 8. Very nice. Of course. Yeah, there's a million thing in the corner in the dark movies

and ghost stories that all... Or in the mirror. Yeah. That all have this same tone and play on. this same thing and a lot of them it just you know it feels like I've seen this movie before you know like they just they're in one ear and out the other you forget that you even saw them you know there's like the darkness and the but you know there's a

ton of them and they all sort of blend together this one to me really stuck out right I think a lot of it was because of the acting and it does fall into that category but I think it's it stands out in that category and I really enjoyed it. I'm going to I'm going to give it at eight and a half. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a good movie, man. That's what I gave Renfield. It's my highest-printed movie. Oh, that'll end up on the top ten for sure. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. fucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Okay, before I get into the scene, I got my daughter was I loved how the boogeyman

is able to mimic voices. That's terrible. But that's perfectly because it kind of changes in and out of tone. Sure. It's like that creature

in that fucking plant movie. What the hell was it called? The bear thing. The airplane movie? Oh, yeah, yeah. Annihilation. There it is.

I was thinking of the night flyer. This is the airplane movie. No, the plant movie. With that being said, the scene that got her was the daughter, I think, I can't forget if she was coming home from school. She was coming home from something, and she was telling the little sister, you know, stop bugging me, leave me alone.

And then followed her up to the room. She slammed the door in her sister's face. And then the sister was beating on the door. And then she turned around and was yelling at sister and walked towards the door. And you were expecting the door to fly open. But the boogeyman flew through the door. Oh, yeah. That was fucking wild, dude.

Yeah. And then the older sister wakes up and it was a dream the whole time. Yeah. Or was it? Yeah. Yeah, like goes in her mouth. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah.

And then, yeah. No, because... Oh, the tooth. The tooth scene, too. Yeah. Oh, that was nasty. And a shame that it got flushed out of toilet because, you know, two, too fairy money. Oh, that's right.

She could have gotten a couple of bucks on that one. Talk about building tension, man. You got a string wrapped around your tooth and your blonde, you know? Oh, and then the boogeyman's an asshole, and he shuts the door before they... Right. What a dick move, man. But jumping to the end, um... It's kind of open-ended for me because they finally do their family, their group therapy.

The dad finally opens up. Everything's kind of happy. Sorry, somebody's starting to motorcycle outside now. I kind of lost my turn at that. Oh, they're all walking out of the doctor's office, and the doctor calls her back in, the oldest daughter. Yeah. She goes back in, see something moving around. in the closet, goes to the closet, and then the doctor walks up behind her. It was like,

do you need something? Yeah. And then she just shuts the door, making you think, oh, it was nothing. But if it wasn't nothing, why would she hear the doctor call her back in? Right. Because obviously the doctor would have said, oh, did you need something? Yeah. She called her back in. I feel like that was sort of also the Babaduke ending, you know, where she, It was just literally closure, you know? Like, it's always going to be there on the other side of the door of the door. Sure, sure. But she closed it, you know.

There were some definite Babadook vibes in this, right? Then, of course, he had the deal where the, once they found the, she found the, the wife of Lester. And she said, oh, Lester, what did you do? Because she realized she, he went and infected another house with that. Yeah. got vibes from smile and the ring and you know all that stuff and i was like oh shit are we doing this again but but they they pulled it off man they they did it in uh original enough way that it wasn't like it didn't feel like a rip off you know and the oldest daughter uh what's her name sadie

she has like the shittiest friends yeah seriously well one of them seems cool but even she's kind of Yeah, but the fact that she would even hang out with that blonde chick after she was such a bitch. Right. Yeah. I knew the one that was supposed to be her friend, friend wasn't her friend anymore because she was just like talking about, oh, we all haven't hung out in a little while. And then Sadie's like, when did we ever really hang out? She was basically trying to talk her in the shoes. She was like, well, they're your friends now. Like, no, they're not. This blonde seat keeps bringing up your dead mom whenever she gets a chance. chance. And I was disappointed. All she got was slapped. I know. She got bitch slapped. She got slapped and she still was talking shit about your mom and calling you a psycho.

I know. Yeah. Actually, you know what? That was super realistic though, right? Because she like went nuts and slapped her because she got freaked out. And then she's like, she's a total fucking psycho and runs out. And I've got enough young girls living in the house. See, my movie, my movie, the girls leaving trying to lead the house. Boogieman picks her up, turns her head all the way around. I know. And then the dad finds her and thinks, is my daughter crazy? Oh, yeah.

Well, we may have a sequel coming, Brian, so, you know. Because, you know, he found out that his daughter was on The Weed, because he smelled it. are you on the marijuana because you that one that one puff you took that you reeked of it well

in his defense he doesn't know it was one puff he said he smelled weed so for all he knew they were like fighting a huge bong or something yeah but

a lot of the scary you brought it over earlier, Lance, the use of the light glow, I thought it was good. Even though I was like, damn it, kid, if you roll it down the hallway, you ain't got no light now. I thought that too. I was like, why would you roll that down there? That's no, don't do that. This was one of those movies where I was really invested enough to be like, don't do that.

But, and I also, you guys noticed that was the moon, right? Yeah. It had the little texture on it. The whole time I was like, do they sell those? I kind of want one. kind of did you now. But this being Stephen King, I connected the boogeyman to Pennywise.

Ah. That makes sense. Sure. Because Pennywise, before he eats the children, he scares him, you know, more fear.

And he, this boogeyman was the, what was the youngest daughter? Sawyer was just kind of fucking with her throughout the movie, you know, imitating the sister, you know,

sneaking up behind her, doing stuff. to her to making her think her older sister's doing stuff to her, you know. So I kind of get got the Stephen King connection there. So that makes sense. I think about that. Oh, speaking of, sorry to interrupt, man. Speaking of Stephen King connection before I forget, that's one of the things I did love about hypnotic going back to my school of the week is that it was obvious Rodriguez has read some Stephen King because there's a lot of shades of like the shop. You know, when they do the shop, like in Fire Starter and other books like that,

where characters have abilities to do telekinesis and things like that, there's a shitload of that in there. I got super Stephen King vibes, but sorry, move on, man. I meant to say that earlier. Yeah, and I, the creature design was very CGI in the third act when he finally popped up. Well, but I like, I like those little strings that were. coming out. That's what I was going to say. I like the thing it did with his mouth and it had like that what's that other monster that they had in like the ritual where it's a big deer thing and it stands up.

Yeah. I can't remember the name of it. Anyway. But yeah, it had like a face inside of its mouth and it was like sucking the soul out. I was like, you know, I mean, if you're going to go CGI, at least make it look cool and it would look pretty cool. So I'll give them that. It was it was a creepy ass boogeyman. And it did sort of, yeah, you kind of get it vibes. Boy, it could have been another it movie. Yeah, now that you mentioned it, dude. I hadn't thought about that until you said it, Brian. That's, you're spot on, man. Stephen King does a lot of the same, you know, themes from movie to movie and the same characters,

but in different formats and stuff like that. So I totally think that was done on purpose, for sure. But anytime kids are the victim, man, it's always kind of scary. You know, it's a, yeah. And I, they played on it and, and they did it well. And they found a couple of really good kids to act. We didn't mention, I liked the little aspect of the mom being there. Because she did the whole thing with the flame, you know,

and then to the left. And I don't know if you guys noticed when the house was burning down at the end and she looked back at the brother's dress and it looked like it was filled. Yeah. Like head air in it? Yeah. Although we did get it, we did get a healthy dose of CGI fire, Brian. Yeah.

Every time I see the old CGI fire, I'm like, Lance is not going to like this. I didn't even know really in this one. But it wasn't bad at first. It was just that final shot of the whole house. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Overblown. But what are you going to do, man?

I think it's got to get used to it. Yeah, it's 2023, man. You don't have the Saskas sisters running around with petroleum jelly with, like, light up jelly running around in fire scenes like they were telling us that story. What is the Sossack sisters going? Well, they were telling us a story about how they literally had to put on like this, what was it like a jelly substance, right? Oh, I heard you say petroleum jelly and like, like what kind of story did they tell you? you, man. Oh, they did talk about John Holmes trying to fuck him.

Yeah, can't blame me you're out for trying. There was, I did read that they, the director Rob Savage, tried to put a Star Wars toy in the movie to do something with a Star Wars toy. And I guess

Lucasfilm was like, no. Nope. I wonder why. I guess I don't know if they were going to incorporate something like supernatural happening with the toy or something. And they just is like, no. Huh. Well, it is what it is, man. Or it might have been Disney that said no.

Yeah. Probably. Well, yeah, I guess they're going on our Star Wars movie associating with horror. Well, this is, I think we all agree this is a pretty good movie. Yeah. Yeah, man. A lot better than I expected it to be. Yeah, if anybody listening to this, hasn't seen it.

And especially if you have kids and you want to introduce them to horror, take them to the boogeyman. Not if they're not good sleepers, though. It was pretty creepy. You might be up a little late one night, huh? Hey, you got to face your fears. My son didn't like clowns, and I took him to see when the new It movie came out. We went in IMAX. I made sure.

Yeah. A lot of looking at the floor, but he made it through. Nobody likes found. That's why it's fun. You guys got any last minute stuff to put in before we sign out? I think we talked about both boogeyman pretty good. One was a movie and one was a really good movie. Yeah, pretty cool.

Possible top 10. on at least one or two lists, right? Maybe. I think they made the right decision going to theaters. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. So we definitely want to thank you guys for a listen to another episode of the horror returns. You know where to find us, especially if you were at Frightmare because it's right on the coozy. www. www.thehorror returns.com. At least NAS has some coosies now, Brian, and Phil. I know you guys haven't counted me.

Well, Phil, you need to fucking come out here and visit, dude. I know, man. All right, so social media, etc. What's coming up on the other shows, Brian? Stream Fiends, we are going to do the 1990, whatever, Super Mario Brothers movie. Oh, God. Bob Hopkins. Yes.

Yes, sir. That little fucking dinosauria cracks me up every time. Oh, my God. We still need to do... For action returns, Ninja 3, The Domination. Right. And like I said, we have a wrestling returns episode. And we got some other little things we're working on, too.

Nice. We're definitely going to make up for the time that we haven't been putting stuff out. But, you know, life doesn't stop happening for everybody. Absolutely. That's the way it goes. And for action returns, less you forget. get, man. I think you guys do owe a Patreon pick at least one movie for for Lenny Lichtenstein.

Well, he better figure out which one he wants exactly. Yeah, unfortunately, you guys have covered some great shit. He's got to find a deep dive, so we'll figure it out. I don't think you guys would consider the fish that save Pittsburgh, would you? That's not really an action movie, is it? I had to talk to talk to Nez about that one.

All right. Well, again, I appreciate you guys listening to the show. Next week, it's okay, yeah, okay, next week's

psychological horror part three already. Yeah. So we've done the hand that rocks the cradle, so it's not that. Silence of the lambs?

Silence of the lands and a movie that I know, I know we've been asked to do a few times. seven. Nice. Good idea. I'm excited about this week.

That'll work. That'll work. And, well, I won't have any Wi-Fi, so I'll be watching these at work on my lunch break. But that's okay. So, uh, fill up until the horror returns again. Good night.