The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #376: Bait 3D (2012) & Meg 2: The Trench (2023)

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

This week, we hit the water with special guests Kate Pollock and Matt Wood from Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotless Minds podcast to talk the brand new Meg 2 as well as the Australian shark in a grocery store movie Bait 3D. Cool of the Week includes Turbo Kid, The Hunger, Talk to Me, Zom 100, and Mississippi Grind. Trailer is Witchboard. The podcast spotlight shines on Cut to the Chase podcast. And we get feedback from The Podcast That Wouldn't Die and Al Ramseur. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Hi, I'm Tom Savini. You might know me as Sex Machine from Dusk Till Dawn, and you're listening, and I don't know why, to the horror returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and go. Welcome. You have found the place where The horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome everyone to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance and with me my co-host Brian.

Philip, not here tonight, and is not here tonight. However, it's all good because from across the pond, as they say, we've got our good friend Matt Wood and not Matt Smith. So Dr. Cruz's not in the house, but we do have Kate. So we have both parts this time of the eternal darkness of not-so-spotless minds. What's up, guys? Yay. Yay, long time overdue.

Long time overdue. Yeah. But yeah, very excited to finally record you guys. Obviously, Lance, you've come on our show before, but like I haven't recorded with Brian before, so this is exciting. You're in for a treat. Yeah. For a treat. So what's up with the show?

What do you guys have coming up? What are you going to be covering? Well, we've literally just finished part two. our latest episode because we were doing one last Thursday, but Kate's daughter had a, had a nightmare. So an actual nightmare. She suffers night terrors. Like, it's like, oh, if she had a nightmare, I had to go.

Like, basically, she was with her dad that evening, and she woke up from some pretty horrific night terrors. And he thought that just having, like, a little video chat with me for, like, two minutes might be okay to calm her down, but it didn't. and I just basically I had to go over. So I had to literally go to his house, which luckily is not very far. Okay.

And spend about 45 minutes calming her down. But by that point, it was just like that there was just no point in trying to continue on and, you know, doing. So yeah. So we just finished. Yeah. Finish part two tonight. Yeah, about 10 minutes ago. Oh, cool.

All right. Yeah, I remember Kate, I remember you talking on the podcast before about, playing horror video games, but you don't want to do it when the little one can walk in while you're in a scary part of the video game? You know, he doesn't even evil. Okay, Matt doesn't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck, no. But his kid also was not five.

Oh, I don't know about that, lads. No, you get icky if there's like a sex scene in a film. You're like, hey, Kate, like, is this film okay for me to watch your flight? but like, um, but no, my kid's five. So it's a bit like,

Florence watches horror movies and stuff, like some of them with, but my kid's five. Um, but like she, like, she'll, so I don't know if you guys know this.

It's a bit of a cult game from like over 10 years ago. It's called Alice Madness Returns. I've heard of it. Yeah, it's like, it's really, I mean, it's basically is what the Tim Burton movie should have been,

in my opinion. Um, it's like just really dark and twisted, deals with lots of adults. themes and things, but like for the most part is this big fantasy, but like dark and twisted. And I, she caught me playing it one day because I was like waiting for, I was waiting for her to be dropped off by her dad. And I was like, yeah, doors open. Like, it's fine. And then like, I went to like switch it off when I got to a save, which was literally like 10 seconds later. But by that point,

she was already like hooked on it. She was like, what's this? I want to see this. And like, she's like, I'm not scared, mommy. Like, it's scary, but I'm not scared. Like, she's, very kind of self-aware like that. However, I try to get her watching Scoopie Do the other day, and she wouldn't have any of it. She's like, she's scary, mommy. And honestly, like, really? People go look up Alice Madness returns, like, and look at some of the stuff that she has to fight. And it's like, you're okay with that, but you're not okay with, like, a fake ghost, who's really the manager who wanted the inheritance money. You know, like, it's so bizarre, like, what she'll connect with and what she doesn't really care about. But no, the night terrors,

I don't think anything to do with that because as I say, she's quite self-aware, like, if something's too much, she will just say. And there are some moments where I'll just be like, where I know that it's too much. And I'll just be like, go play in your room for five minutes. I'll call you after this bit. But like, in the most part, she's absolutely fine. And she would say if it was too much.

So I don't think it is that. But like, I don't know, she's had, let me and her dad broke up, you know, in the last year and she's had a lot of like ups and downs and stuff. And it's night terrors are quite common with kids anyway. But yeah, it was quite a bad one. Like, so I had to go around and, look after her and sort of around yeah a little bit and things but

that's okay though it's fine she'll be alright she'll be alright in it yeah my my five year old granddaughter watches anything with them and a little concerned because when we

we were rewatch Megan she was laughing maniacally during a couple of the kills but now that little boy had it coming oh he did oh my god fucking raping it raperson. Like honestly Megan, Megan did a service because there

are some girls out there who are now not going to get raped because she killed him. Yeah. But like, again, like, in the Alice game, like Alice has this massive, it's called the Vorpal Blade and she has this like massive big fucking knife. And Ava will play with it and she'll just start

slashing stuff that she doesn't have to. She's off ages and I'm like, no, no. Can we not slashing the big knife, please? And I was like, you know, know that what we do in Alice game is not what we do in real life, right? Like, I have to really kind of like me, just for my stage. Like, I don't really want to be waking up to find my child stood over me with, like, the kitchen knife. It's going to happen. I think it's quite

the opposite. I think the more you expose them to that, the more they get it out of their system, honestly. No, I agree. Yeah, I think you're right. I agree. I's just Josh in. But yeah, I'm just like, yeah, can we not, can we not do that so much? But yeah, no, she's fine. Sorry, I was just about to say we just done Autopsy of Jane Doe and Kill Baby Kill That's what we did in our latest episode Yeah

A bit of Bartha I love it But yeah It was a good episode despite it being a bit disjointed Like in the middle like it was It was good fun, some good chats I reckon We have plenty of episodes disjointed over here So it's

Yeah. I did like a bit of an extra where I like relayed gross autopsy stories. Like real life ones. Oh boy. There's some really fucking gross stuff in that. That's cool. So listen out for that, everyone. All right.

Well, what's on the slight X for the show after this one? You guys. Hopefully you guys. That's what we're hoping for, right, Brian? Yeah. I'm dreading to rewatching a sot. Hello. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm even with like soft and quiet, as much as that, like, that was in my top five of last year. And it's like, I was really,

I did not expect to have to watch it so fucking soon. Yeah. I know. Well. I was like, just fucking watch that fucking nightmare of a show, of a film. Like,

Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To get it over with, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Have you, have you seen, Salo? I've never seen it, never seen it. I have, obviously. Munger, manja. Okay. All right.

You're in for a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. Well, never mind. All right. That's enough for that. So normally we do cool of the week, but I think with you guys here, let's do a shout

out to your show and let's do buy it, rented or Bennett with what you've seen? Who wants to jump in first? Matt can, because I can't write my brains if I think about what I've actually been fucking watching. What have I seen? Binnett, I'll put, the flood. Oh, gosh, I've heard that.

Jesus. Yeah, no, but Brian, you watched it recently, didn't you? It's just fucking, utterly shite, CGI alligator or croc, whatever it is. It was shocking how bad the alligator was. Dyer. So dire. Really, really bad.

Yeah, it just wasn't a good film. So that's a definite bin it. What else? Rent it. Meet the Killer Parents. It's a new film from 2023. Do you guys know this one? No, I haven't heard of this one.

Yeah, it's out there. Basically, it's about a girl who is introduced to her boyfriend's parents, but they're not quite as they seem. Are they killers? They are killers. It's basically a poor man's get. It's basically a poor man's get out. So. Poor man's get out.

Yeah. It's worth the rant, though. It's a lot. Yeah. You know, there's much worse films out there from this year. I mean, this year has been shit, really, overall, I think. But, yeah, no, my buy it for this week is a film I watched last night. It's called Turbo Kid.

Have you guys seen this? Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Basically, I wanted to introduce my daughter to it. um it's such a great one too it's such a great movie and i love apple i think she's just awesome it's such a cool cool character uh really good films that that's that's that's that's my buy it okay all right so that's so you're by it uh what is that again

turbo kid turbo kid all right so the classics never get old then no exactly Classics for a reason. All right. I will put that down. Kate? I don't really have been it lately. Oh, that's a good thing. I also as well, I don't get as much time as I'd like to watch stuff,

so I tend to just beeline for the things that I know that I'll really like. But then I have to remind myself that I have to do a bottom five at the end of the year show. So like I do try and see some shit if I can. But I haven't watched any like any really shit with stuff recently. I've rent it for me. would be I don't know if it's a rent it can I go to buy it and just

sure absolutely in between a rent it and a buy it so I covered this on one of my other show on my other show Heart of Horror and that's The Hunger with David Bowie and Susan Surrandon and

Catherine Oh yeah I guess vampire it's vampire one yeah yeah like I'd never seen it before and stuff and like but they've been on my list mainly not going to lie because I knew that it had like a real kind of goth aesthetic like a like a modern goth aesthetic and um and david bowie you know it's fucking david bow and like yeah I really enjoyed it it wasn't it was definitely like style over substance I thought um which is where it kind of like loses points for me

but it was still like a very cool watch and like the the style that it gave us was just so fucking good, especially like the first sort of opener. And it was like great watching that because I can see how, like, it has influenced so many of things like, you know, particularly hotel season of American Horror Story, which is one of my favorite seasons of that show. So like, you know, that was so cool kind of seeing the source material,

if you like, of where that was inspired from. But like, yeah. Sorry to intro. Is it early 80s? Yeah, like, it's like 86, I think. It's a mid-80s. Okay. Yeah.

And you get to see Susan's Friends's boobs. So, you know, as you probably know from listening to our show, both me and Matt, a big booth fan. Always a plus. Always a plus. Always a plus. Yeah. Yeah, that was fun. But yeah, like, it was like, it wasn't, it probably wasn't like the strongest movie I've ever seen.

But like, what it did, it did really, really fucking well. So it's kind of somewhere between a rent it and a buy-it for me. And then like a firm buy-it is a 20-23 release and that's talked to me. Oh, yes. Which I saw last week. And it was just really cool. I thought it was really fresh. I can see where it had drawn on its inspirations for the law that's used.

But I thought they presented it in a really kind of original way, especially with sort of like the motivations of the kids and stuff. The kids were all very real. Like none of them were hugely likable. none of them were really like dislikable. They were all very normal, very multi-layered characters, which I really appreciated because I do find that, especially with teenagers,

they all kind of fall into categories. Like, oh, you're not supposed to like that one. You are supposed to like this one. And that person's a bit weird, but we kind of like them because we relate. And, you know, with any of that, it was like they were all just very fully realized characters. Absolutely.

And I love the mum. She is just goals. Like the line where she says, like, if I catch you drinking, I will straight up, God's down punch you in the face to her son. And it's like, it's not obviously like she would never do that. She's the kind of mum, though, that's just very, very straight talking and like just kind of cool.

Like you can tell like the, like you can tell like a few head kids that like the friends would think she's the most awesome mum ever. Whereas like the actual children, God, well embarrassing. You know, kind of thing. Oh, shut up, mum. But she's the kind of mum I aspire to be. Have you guys seen it? Yeah.

Yeah. Love it. Actually, no, you've done it. Of course you have. Yes, of course you have. Did you like it? I loved it. I think we all loved it.

Yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen it yet. No. I've got to, yeah, I've got to see it this week before it goes. Yeah, as I say, it's not going to have the longest one time. Stay away from spoilers.

Yeah, like any 824 movie, right? You don't want to know what's coming until it happens. Yeah, yeah. All right. Definitely up there for me. So, yeah, definitely buy it. That's a good one to stuff. Is that it for the week for you?

Yeah, I've been really busy job hunting and stuff, and having my kids. I haven't had a lot of time to watch movies, yeah. But what about yourselves? All right, Brian. Let's see, Bennett checked out Netflix's Jackie Chan, John's seen a movie, Hidden Strike. Oh, no. Oh, that hurts me to hear that. I struggled to stay awake.

through this movie. There's so much talking. No. And I get the impression that the background they're standing in front of is not real throughout the entire movie. Even when they're outside.

That's so tragic. Kind of like the newest creeper, Jeepers, creepers movie? No, not that bad. Not that bad. Okay. I don't believe anything other than the people were real. that movie.

Yeah, I struggled with this movie so bad. I think I fell asleep and turned it off halfway through and I don't think Jackie Chan fought anybody. No, what you're hired him? He didn't get him fighting. Yeah, he's kind of looking

his age now. So I don't know if that's the reason or Really. I mean, fair play to the guy, though, but, like, don't hire him, like, if he's not right. Do you know what I mean? Sure. If he's not right. Yeah.

We'll get Jackie Chadden for no reason. If he's not right. I think he's in it. I think he's in it because in the beginning they flash, like, it looked like 50 different Chinese production companies in there. Oh, right. Okay. Got you. But I got a firm rented.

with another Netflix movie titled, what is it, Zom 100, bucket listed in bed. Oh, I heard about this. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, it's, it's South Korean. I thought it was Japanese. I thought it was based off a Japanese, what do you call it, manga?

Okay. That sounds awesome. Count me in 100%. Basically, the premise is, well, you get a quick little recap of this guy, in the past year he gets the job that he's always wanted out of college and then you flash forward through the year and it's the worst fucking job he hates his boss

he just is overwork double shifts overtime you name it overnighters and then one day he wakes up and it's the zombie apocalypse he's running away from zombies he gets away from them he notices the whole city's being overrun because he's looking out over a rooftop and the first thing that pops in his head is I don't have to go to work today.

That's so fucking relatable. Very Sean to the dead. That is so fucking relatable. I've been in jobs where I could not stand it, and I've just been like, please let me get sick today, so I don't have to go in. Yeah, and pretty much throughout the movie, he decides to make kind of a bucket list of things he would like to do.

They're not, like, a lot of them are not, like, ridiculous, us never can never achieve things. It's just stuff he's never got a chance to do. Okay. And he wants to do this before he becomes a zombie because he knows in this world it's like inevitable that you know you're going to get bitten, you're going to get eaten. Yeah. And Lance, I think you would be on board with this movie until the last 20, 30 minutes because it gets ridiculous.

Really? Really. I'm intrigued. I can, I'm almost 50-50. You'll neither love it or you'll. you'll hate it. I'm always like that with movies with Matt, and I'm just like, okay, either this is going to be the best thing

or you're going to fucking rip this to shit, right? It's like, it's intriguing to know, like to find out which one. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. So, no spoilers, but is one of his bucket list items to masturbate on the bullet terrain while it's going at full speed? His bucket list, Lance, not yours. Yeah, yeah. No, that's not on there.

I'm assuming this is going to be a series of movies because he didn't have 100 things written down on his list. Oh, this is part one. Gotcha. And that's when I kind of dug in deeper. This was a manga or manga. I don't know how you pronounce it, but. Yeah, so I know this was a series of them.

so I watch another one is that on Netflix then you say yeah nice and that's just just come out recently is it this week yeah a couple days ago

at that list yeah definitely that's fun and that's all I got short week for me okay so Zom 100 is probably the

highlight then yeah not hitting strike all right good enough All right, well, so I've got my picks. Brian, you know how I feel about musicals? Yeah. So let's start with this one. Lonnie Longsteen.

Yes. All right, so we had the granddaughter over Friday night. So let's see. Oh, actually, no, the wife and I watched this one last night without the granddaughter. And that's The Little Mermaid, the new one. Oh. Not sure if you guys have seen it, but... I haven't, but I've not heard great things.

I was not on the top of my list to go see. I will call this a rent-it. I will call this one I wish I had seen in the theater. Bless you. I wish I'd seen it in the theater in 3D, because the graphics were stunning. I don't know if that's... Is that Hallie Bailey that's actually doing all the singing?

Yeah, yeah. Sure. So my new nickname, for her might be Whitney Who? That voice. I love the voice. The only thing that kind of took me out of this movie was they stretched the middle part out a little too long with all the new songs and whatnot. It didn't need to be.

What's that? Is that when she's on land? Yes. And it didn't need to be two hours and 15 minutes. But I think that because you've got a director, you've got a director that had done one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. so I think he was wanting to interject a lot of that spirit into the movie. Oh, that sounds fun. Yeah, and I would say that Melissa McCarthy is 100% like playing out one of the villains from Chicago,

like way over the top, which was kind of cool. So that's a whole character, because Ursula's one of my favorite Disney villains. So, like, I really want her to be good. Yeah, I might have picked someone different. But, you know. Oh, right. All right, so let's stick with Disney stuff. An old classic.

You guys ever heard of Bed Knoms and Broomsticks? Yeah. With Angela Lansbury. Okay. Definitely a rennet. That was one that I watched a lot as a kid. So we introduced the five-year-old to it. And she loved it.

So my buy it for the week is, okay, so Brian, as you know, I'm watching Secret Invasion and actually enjoying it. Like, I'm up to episode five, so I may change my mind of the finale. I was going to say wait until you get to that last episode. I hear you, man. I'm perphing myself for it. But I like the buddy cop aspect. It kind of reminds me a little of alienation a little bit with some of the banter.

But I got to thinking, you know what? This guy that plays Talos is a pretty good actor. So another Ben Mendelso maybe I switched over to, you guys ever seen one that he's in with Ryan Reynolds called Mississippi Grind? No, not a gamble movie. It is a game. gambling movie. Have you seen it? I think so.

It might have been when it originally came out. I don't remember. Well, this is a definite buy it. It's slow burn, call back to the 1970s drama movies. Mendelssohn, I thought, was very Dustin Hoffman, if you will,

in it. So, yeah, Mississippi grind, look for it. It's an older movie. You should be able to find it streaming. It's not a, it wasn't a huge budget release, but, you know, you've got Deadpool and Talos in it, so you can't go wrong. So I would say, yeah, for sure, buy that one. And Brian, do we have any headlines with this strikes in its 100-whatever day?

Yeah, we got some little bit, not a lot, not what you call big news, but we got a couple things that were pretty big. First up, final destination six. will add an interesting expansion of the universe according to the writer Jeffrey Reddick. So I read what he had said. And it says something about what if you can murder somebody to have them take your place.

Okay. Which I already have a problem with because there was a few times in the series where somebody tried to kill themselves. Yes. And you couldn't do it because that wasn't death's design. design, right. So how can you murder somebody and have them take your place?

Because that wasn't in the design. Yeah, you make a good point. Not too excited about this new one. I'll always watch it. I'll watch it, but I really just, I'm kind of annoyed that they didn't just leave it because the ending to Finalization 5 was so good. It just perfectly,

sorry, like bookended everything. Like, it was just so neatly done. And I'm just like, I don't want anything more than that. That was just, believe it as it is. Although I've now since found out that Devin Saba didn't even know that that was going to happen, let alone get paid for it. Yeah. So I'm a little bit of bittersweet on it now because I'm like, fucker, he only found out of the premiere.

Yeah. Yeah. Give me more. I want more. I mean, spoiler, they almost, they pretty, what they killed off his character in the second one off screen. Yeah. Oh, yes. You find out in the newspaper clipping.

Yeah. That's pretty unceremonious. It's like so shit, is that. Let's see. I do love that. Sorry, is that coming out this year? No, probably not. Okay.

And this one, I believe, is supposed to go straight to Max, the streaming platform. Okay. So, Lance, you weren't too big on the Saw X trailer. Not really. Or not even us reviewing it. well, this will make you happy. It will have the longest runtime of any movie in the franchise. Oh, no.

The hours of saw, right? I don't think I'd said an exact time, but I know it's going to clock in over two hours. It's so fucking unnecessary. No kidding. And like that's whole choice thought. Come on. Come on. I'm sorry, Matt.

no i'm just i'm just i'm just saying just come on just okay i i know what kate's saying but you're still going to go and see it so you know it's going to be two hours of convoluted nonsense i was so disappointed with with spiral i like cannot even tell you yeah i haven't like i thought it was at least original it wasn't it wasn't oh you know what this is not a conversation for now it was not i didn't think that was my main gripes that i didn't think it had any ounce of originality intelligence. It just, it was just so empty as a film to me. Oh, boy, rough. But that's a

conversation for a different, for a different time. I pointed out that Tobin Bell was like 20, 25 years older than he was when the first thing. Yeah, he's always looked old. He's always looked old. Yeah. Yeah. He was born old. He was born with that

hair, I sled across. And that weird little goate Benjamin Button. It's, it's Shani Smith that gets me because this is a movie that takes place between one and two and she looks way older than she did in those movies. Yeah, but did you see

orphan first kill? So if they... True. Well, I still love that far. I thought it was great. But yeah, like, it's difficult when you try to bring something back so long after the fact and keep it in real time because it's, well, not real time, but keep it in the time of like the original, because it's just like, well, age is a thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Andre Overdahl has confirmed that the scary stories to tell in the dark sequel is still in development. It's still going to happen. Good. Good. We just did his autopsie-dain-dain-dain-dain-dain-dain, that's quite funny. We did.

Oh, good, because I enjoyed the first one. Way more than I expected to. Yeah, me too. I was forced to see it four times at the theater. Every time I turned to find another grandkid wanted to go. Oh, bless. It's hilarious. Bless you in your service.

Let's see. I don't know who asked for, but we're getting a magic eight ball movie from Blumhouse. And the movie will probably be rated at PG-13. Of course it will be. It's going to suck. That sounds shit. All right.

Now into the somewhat bigger news of the week, Maggie Chillon Hall is directing a remake to the Bride of Frankenstein for Netflix. Okay. And attached to star in it is Christian Vale and Peter Sarsgaard. Oh, come on. Yeah, I'm 100. I saw this actually.

And I'm 100% in for it. Well, yeah, but as you know, our rates per month are going to go up another dollar. Of course. How else do they make these movies? Yeah. Oe. I'm still in for it. Oe.

See. Psycho Gorman. director Stephen Kostanski's next movie is a horror comedy title, Frankie Freiko. Like, honestly, he's just taking the piss at this point, I swear to God. Like, they bought Psycho Gorman, so give him Frank. What? Frankie Frankie Frankie Frankie Frico. Frankie Freco.

Is that like a play on Donaldago? I will see. And maybe if this movie's a hit like Psycho Gorman, we'll get across. crossover movie with the two. Oh, wouldn't that be awesome? I'd be there for that. Okay, a couple more things. Talk to me.

The film directors have shot an entire prequel movie based on the film's opening sequence. Of course. Of course they have. Brilliant. I'm not for that. Yeah, definitely. That opening sequence was so good.

Yeah, and it just made you wonder what got to that point in the sequence. I would be excited. to see how that, yeah, definitely. And finally, we got a new director for the screen movie. The next, it's Christopher Landon, who's done Happy Death Day and Freaky. Oh, that'll be fun. Oh, okay.

I don't know that makes sense. Tim won't like that one. No, he won't. I like the change. I like what Radio Silence did with the last two, but I liked it to change the thing. So, yeah, good chat. A bit fresh, 100%. And that's the news.

All right. Good stuff. Kate, do you live out in the countryside or are you more like in the London area? None. Neither of them. I live on the west side. West side, okay. I just aged myself horribly doing that.

Yeah, I did not feel good about it. I'm sorry. Okay. Now, when you say the West Side, do you mean Wales? No, not as far as that. So it's definitely near as I was in Wales today earlier this afternoon. But like I know, it's like near Bristol. Like I'm from Bristol, but I live about half an hour away from Bristol now,

a little place with Western Supernard. It's a seaside town. Well, the important question is, do you have any trailer parks out there? Yeah. Okay. Then you'll fit right in. Great. Fit right in because we're about to take a little trip.

Yep. Now to the trailer park. Yeh. Let's get that mesh. I was going to go moonshap, but all right, you want to go straight to math. Damn right. Hit the meth. Get them bustles. All right, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's up for tonight, Brian?

All right. Excuse me, there's a plane flying over my head. So let's see. We got, it's not a trailer. I wouldn't even call it a teaser. But we got something from the upcoming reimagining of 1986. I'm saying this loosely, classic. This stars Madison Eastman, Isman. She was from Jumagi, Annabelle.

I know what you did last summer series. Wow. Oh, yeah. Jamie Campbell Power, Bauer, from the Twilight movies. Okay. According to IMDV, because I've only seen a couple of those. Charlie Tahan from Ozark and Super Dark Times and many others. This is what's drawn me towards this reimagining.

It's directed by Chuck Russell, who directed A Nightmare on Home Street 3, Dream Warriors. Wow. And the blob remake, 1986. The mask? It's got to be good, man. I can get the mask. Yeah. No.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, this will be great. Oh my gosh. This is going to be so much fun. You say our guest chime in first. I'll be quiet. Yeah.

Kate. Oh, no, I'm excited. This is going to be like, I reckon it's either going to be hilarious and great or it's going to be a shit show. Like, no in between. But I'm hoping for the former. All right, Matt. I think it's going to be just generic trash.

Hollywood horror trash, I think. But who knows? Who knows? I mean, like hilariously bad, but great. Like, I don't feel like it would be, yeah, like, but like, that good, bad. Or it's just going to be trash. Lance. I'm really.

looking forward to this one. This looks fucking amazing. The special effects look great. They showed us just enough, but not quite enough, to get us interested. And it's just going to knock the socks off the original, which was a absolute piece of shit.

I haven't seen the original. I'm just calling somebody out, hoping that we get to see each week. It's hell of good. Ten on ten. Lance, I don't know what you're talking about with the effects. They look like garbage.

I'm the positive one on the show. Looks fun to me. I hope this is just an unfinished version of what the movie's going to be, the scenes we've seen, because if this is what we're going to get, I at the most would be hoping this is so bad it's good that I can laugh at it. I do like the main actor. I thought she was in one of the better Annabelle movies. Is that all about her?

Yeah. Yeah. She was fun in Jumanji, so I like her. I can't really say too much about the I know what you did last summer series because that wasn't great. But I like who's in the cast. I like the director, but what they showed us, I would have waited until I had something better to show. maybe they don't yeah

yeah but this was like one of the I think only one of the few horror things that came out of San Diego Comic Con a couple weeks ago

so oh boy and there's no trailers I don't know it looked fun to me maybe I need to rewatch the trailer but I had fun

with just a little what was it 45 second trailer or whatever see that it's so bad it's gonna make me appreciate the original one even I don't want to do that.

Yeah, but come on. Now, this, consider what this director has under his belt for past films, you got to give it a chance. Oh, yeah, I'll definitely go see it. We all say it, wouldn't we? Yeah. By other means. Yes. You don't want to donate any money to him, Brian.

Daniel Logan. All right. Yeah, that's all we have this week. You know, we're going through a writers and actor's strike, so. Nothing's really being released right now. That's beautiful. Well, it does happen. So let's keep it moving.

We've got a great pace going tonight. So let's move on to our next segment. Listener feedback. And, of course, we'll start out with our podcast spotlight. And tonight, it shines on Cut to the Chase. Dan and Lacey Lou have a multitude of podcast undercut to the Chase. CtTCC being their main show. then of course you've got the wonderful slumber party massacre podcast uh they're here podcast

skip to the loo love that name um wow i don't think they have that one you might have to add that to the network gate what's that what i'll sneezey podcast the sneeze podcast yeah i'm so sorry i've come down with like flu today i'm really sorry it's why sounds like perky as well. Well, get better, get better because you've got witchboard to see. I know, right? And hey, they're not all horror. They've got a cut to the cartoon commentary as well.

So keep that in mind. Now, Brian, I'm going to let you guess which of the two members of the podcast that wouldn't die said this. But regarding the Forbidden Zone, when I, you know, let them know that we did cover that as a commentary, one of the two members. of that podcast said, Lance, I'm so, so sorry. Just don't watch this movie.

So you think that was one on 10, Brian? Yes. All right. And we've got our buddy Al Ramseur, super patron. Al Ramseur, said he does want to join us on an upcoming commentary for Tales from the Crip.

So stay tuned for that. Brian, that should be a fun night. Yes, definitely. We got to get him on when it's a really crazy episode of Tales from the Crip. All right. Well, let's put our thinking caps on and see what we can come up with. But we just got some last-minute feedback through our website, actually, through thehorror Returns.com.

And let's see, we've got Brian Sheehan sent us an email, Brian. And he says, Young Frankenstein, Sean of the Dead trivia. Ola, I'm Brian, host of TV and movie trivia podcast. I was hoping to have you guys as a guest on my show for either Young Frankenstein or Sean of the Dead trivia. Hell yeah, I'm in. Of course, we would talk about and promote your podcast and anything else you guys wanted as well. And apologies in advance for sending this account to all your accounts.

I know some people check one more than others. So I'm trying to play it safe. Here's everything you need to know. We pick a movie. Then I ask you questions from that movie. It takes about an hour to record. All you need is an internet connection headphones and a mic. I think we got that.

It is a family-friendly show. Well, shoot. Oh, that sounds out. I don't know. I think I'm safe. I think we're safe. It says I do edit it in case you might be worried about slipping up. So there you go.

It's a lot of fun, but I'm buying. If you want to see what I'm like first, just click the link below. And I think we can share that in our Facebook group. And yeah, Brian, we're in, man. So if you're listening, give us a time and date. I know I'm in for sure. And I'll see if I can talk Brian and Phillip in as well. Sorry.

Go ahead. I was going to say it's like a big movie quiz. Sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah, we should. We'll do great just like we did in Texas Friday. For the Saw franchise? Yeah.

Oh, wow. I believe in you guys. You can do it. You can do it. God, that was embarrassing. Not as bad, though, is the anger that Michael Felscher had when he got up there, and the one guy on his team let him down by missing a question. And you thought somebody had over his dog.

He wanted to win. Well, that's fine. I'm a show. What is that? He's a winner. This was a, um. Brian, can you explain the scenario a little bit? Yeah, we had all met up at the Texas Frightmare Convention in Texas.

Uh-huh. And it was a random, it wasn't specific category. It was different categories. It was a horror movie trivia, and everybody got teams together, and we completely, I don't know if we got any questions right. I think we might have gotten one right. But there was one team that had, what does this exactly do

Lance Michael Falsher? Oh he does he does a lot of work on doing new right up your alley man doing new blue rays he actually he did a lot of editing and the technical work on the the blue ray for maximum overdrive oh okay if you'll recall

about three months before he did that we just happened to say on the podcast wouldn't it be great if someone were to do that not saying he listened but you never know. You never know. Well, his team made it to the final two. Yep.

And his teammate got the answer wrong. And you can clearly see Michael knew the answer. Oh, no. And just blew up after that. Going too quick, he didn't think, and he just fluffed it. Oh, no. Yeah. That's awkward.

That's an awkward journey home, I bet. Swinging a miss, as they say, Matt. Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, our show intro and all of our new logos come from Steve Carlton from The Geeks. And be on the lookout for more great stuff from Steve. My wife's working on some of it in the house right now.

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And now on to featured attractions. It is time for our main attractions. This week we hit the waters to talk about the new Meg 2, the Trench, as well as 2012's bait. So we'll start with bait. What's that? What's happening? Tina! Can I get out there, why?

This was an Australian production. It came out about a little over 10 years ago. It never appeared on my radar. I'd heard about it, but hadn't seen it before now. So what about you guys? I'd seen it when it came out originally. In the theater, I'll bet. In 3D.

Unfortunately, yeah. Okay. All right, a freak tsunami trap shoppers at a coastal Australian supermarket inside the building. The first supermarkets I've ever seen in a basement. Do they do that in Australia? I don't know. I don't know. It seems odd.

It is a set up. One might think that they did it specifically to create certain situations for the film. Well, you might think so. I mean, you could be cynical, but... All right, director was Kimball Rendell, also known for Cut and Seven Guardians of the Tomb, haven't heard of either one of them. Oh, he did that movie? That's what it says.

I don't know. That guy. I know that guy. Is that a kung fu? movie? I have no idea what it is. Okay. Let's see. Riders were Russell Mulcahy, John

Kim, and Duncan Kennedy. Productions is a strong word, isn't it? I had three writers for this movie. Three writers. Oh, that's not good. That's not, I can sign. In fact,

that three of them, took three of them produce this. Brilliant. All right. All right. Production of a sequel called Deepwater, about a plane en route from China to Australia crashing in the Pacific Ocean, was suspended in March 2014 due to uncomfortable similarities to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. So they can't. All right, yes. All right. Three animatronic sharks were used for filming. That was practical?

I don't know. I don't, not much. Although director Kimball Rindle wanted to entirely avoid using computer generated imagery. Boshet. The, I think I read trivia for a different film here. No way. Oh, it says the budget necessitated its use in some scenes.

Bullshit. It's like 90% fucking CGI, and it was not good C. I either. Okay. Well, Kate, all right, let our guests go first. Kate, I want to hear from you first on Meg, too. So, Matt, what do we, you've done this show before. So you know how the round robin works. What are your initial thoughts?

Well, this is my second watch of bait. I'm sorry. My condolences. I watched this three years ago. Look, as far as, show, movies go, there's far worse out there. It's not the best by any means. It has a lot of issues, but I think it's all right.

There's parts which I found amusing. CGI is pretty bloody awful in parts. I kind of like the... When the practical is used, minimally. I quite like it, actually. I thought it looked pretty good. This is my thoughts. And I think it's all right.

Oh, boy. I just, yeah. Oh, that's great, man. It's dumb. It's a dumb idea. However, I find it quite entertaining. All right. Very good. That's my little mini summary.

How did you over to Kate? All right. So first off, I just want to shout out to my best friend, Kaley, whose house I stayed at last night. And I basically vetoed her movie choice and said, okay, I need to watch this because I'm recording for this thing tomorrow. And I was like, you like, shut movies, right? And she was like, no.

And I was like, okay, well, we're watching this. Have fun. And so shout out to her for being an absolute trooper. Love you, Kaylee. Not that she's going to listen to this, but I feel like it's owed. So, look, all right, as Matt said, this is not the best shark movie, you know, like, but equally, I don't think they're trying to make the best shark movie. I think that they just want to have some cool kills, some fun shit, and despite my

gripes and eye rolls and whatever, and the terrible script and the shitty acting and the awful effects you know right like oh like when I don't even know I can't remember who died but she like slams her fist oh it's when fucking

what's his face drowns after he wears the suit thing and then she just goes like no and like and I'm just like the fuck

there wasn't a better take than that like the only person who I like in it is Phoebe Tonkin and she actually is like she's gone on to do some really good stuff with like vampire diaries and the originals and stuff which I really enjoy.

She plays the one who like falls out with her dad. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's good. And I would expect her to be because as a safe, she's gone on to do some quite big stuff. And I quite like how the dog survives because I was like.

Buddy. And do you know what? No, bully, bully. Yeah, and you know what's so funny is like, you know, that couple in the car, trapped in the car and stuff. And, like, I don't know if they're trying to make him seem like the asshole, but I was like, no, dude's right. She's a dickhead. Like, I would be, like, he doesn't seem unreasonable. He just seems pissed off and sick of her shit, you know?

They're both dickets. They're both dickheads. But it just seemed to be like she was like, you know, he was the more of the assholes. Like, nah, she's the asshole here. Like, he's just clearly drained and just doesn't know what else to do with her crap. he's still getting head, so, you know, fair play. Well, it was definitely Ken and Barbie, because the car still ran, the headlights run and everything after being completely submerged.

Yeah, like the electric roof still came, like, you know, the, there's some light or whatever, you know, like, that's fine, it'll fine. Yeah, like, there was not an ounce of realism. Like, you've got these bodies that look like they've been decaying in the water for about three days when it literally happened three minutes ago. Yes. And all kinds of shit. However, I do like,

despite the stupidity of it, it looked cool. Okay. I thought that there was some really cool deaths. And some of the characters I liked. I just felt like there was such an imbalance between what worked and what didn't work. And definitely, like,

what didn't work. is winning. But I didn't come away hating it. I was just like, right, if I just go in with this film, you know, it's like it's so bad. No, good's a strong word. But like, it's fun. Okay.

Yeah. You know, like. Yeah, it's fun. It's stupid. It's ridiculous. And I hated about 60% of the characters, if not more. But it's fun. And it is what it is.

It's not jaws. It's not 47 meters down, which I think is another really great shark movie. It's not Deep Blue Sea, which again is another great sharp movie. But it's fun and it's not the worst. So yeah. Hit on that note. Boom. Yeah.

So that's where I feel on that one. Okay. Were you there too, Brian? You said three writers to write this movie? Three writers. It's like somebody wrote the script and then passed it around with two other guys and everybody gave them the thumbs up. And it blows my mind. They're trying to say there was very little CGI in this movie.

I don't know at what point were there mechanical sharks, practical sharks in this movie. It all looked like CGI. The Sharks look shit. Sharnie Vincent. She did their next right before this movie. Yeah, she did. Yeah, yeah. She went from badass to being basically helpless in this movie.

Yeah. Yeah, she was shit. I, I, I'm a big supporter of the So Bad It's Good movie. And you definitely know what you're getting into. with that first kill of the movie where the shark comes up underneath on the guy in the jet ski and then his friend does the Darth Vader. No! You definitely know what you're getting with this movie, but I can't say I had a great time with this movie. It's just, it's a great premise to have a tsunami trap everybody in a supermarket.

Sure. But I just thought the movie is fucking stupid. I can't believe Studio Canal picked this up. This is the fucking studio that did Hannibal, like the series. Yes. Like, there's such a disconnect. I don't understand. Yeah, like, there's Studio Canal, and it's Australian.

And Australian usually, like, they're pretty good when it comes to films, like, usually. So I was feeling pretty optimistic, and maybe I just went in with a hoax too high. Right. Well, anything with sharks and it is going to make money, you know? Yeah. Yeah, and I just, I didn't really enjoy the cast. I didn't like none of the little side stories going on going on. I didn't care.

All the drama. I mean, it starts with, the romances. It starts with Dr. Doom and his friend trying to stick up the supermarket. Then you got this little romance story with Shawnee Benson showing up with her new boyfriend, I guess. I don't, I can't tell it they're together or not. The wife had to keep explaining it to me. He says that nothing happened. It seems like he's into her, but she's just friends owned him.

There you go. Like he was just like, because he says to his, he says to the other guy. So it's just like, oh, yeah, just so you know, like, we never is what he says. We never. So like, I mean. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.

I do remember. It's right before he puts on the shopping cart suit. Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. Yeah, which I'm just like, oh, you guys just managed to do that. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool. I mean, now that I'm saying, like a shopping cart suit to go underwater, that's right up my alley with stupid shit I watch.

Yeah, but I just want to know how they managed to, like, weld all of that together, you know, like where they're... And where the shopping... They use cable ties? Yeah. Yeah, but they still have to, like, how they cut it up? How do they, like, create? Oh, who knows? Tools they had in the supermarket.

market. They had everything at their disposal. Elmer's glue and school scissors. Yeah, but where have they got that? They're just on the fucking thing. Like, if they could just... Ah, there's stuff floating around. Especially 50 meters of piping. Yeah, that's just hanging around. All right, so. Sorry, man.

And I have to ask, the main guy, the main guy that was sticking up everybody that had the ski mask on? sure yeah was he really was he really Australian because he seemed aggressively like American yeah I don't know like his Australian accent was really over oh wasn't there someone who like said that he would like didn't he go

there was a character I remember thinking that and then being like oh that that explains it that like someone went to America for a bit and then they came maybe it was him he's he's Australian he's Australian he's Australian He was over the top. He was ridiculous. He was such a dick.

But with all that being said, there was some funny moments. I did laugh. It's just all these side stories with these characters just took me out of it. And I can't say that. I just had a great time with the movie. Oh, man. I'm pretty sure for some reason that I didn't really like it, that Lance loved it. I just laugh all the time at the non-funny bits,

like the bits that weren't supposed to be funny. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. I take my wins where I take my wins. Brian's review is spot on because they try to go on these silly side stories, right? Yeah. Like I didn't care about, like, just Sharnie Vincent.

I loved her and you're next. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she's about us. That's what we're here for. We're not here for these sides. we're here for kills and sharks give us that. I didn't care about her character just even when you're introduced to her I didn't

like her. It's just weird dialogue or are you looking at my butt? That was hilarious. No. Look at my butt, uh, yeah? Yeah, you're my girlfriend and you're bending over. Yeah, I think I'm allowed to do that, right? Yeah, like, I'm your boyfriend, like, surely,

like I've seen you naked if you're bending over. I'm going to take it back. She's in a bikini bent over looking into a hole. So I'm sure that the first thing A hole, not her hole. And he's looking at her hole. Yeah, he's looking at her hole. She's looking at A-hole.

And he's looking at her A-hole. It's too many holes. Yeah, way too many holes. You're saying there's a lot of plot holes, Matt? Yeah. Yeah. Pretty of those. Many of those.

Way too many holes in this story and this person. So what do you think, Lance? Let's hear your thoughts. I think that I thought I was watching the wrong movie at first because there's like seven movies called Bate out there and I couldn't find the fucking right one. And then I'm trying to fucking message Brian and I guess Brian's watching a Saul 27 or something

and, you know, too busy to answer me. I've seen it. I thought it would be really hilarious. Yeah, I know you did, asshole. Brilliant. I honestly thought I was watching the wrong movie guys. then when you message me and said something about a nerd

lifeguard and red and yellow and I was like fuck he's watching the right one okay foiled oh almost Brian you almost got me man almost got me almost clicked one of those other seven and out of the seven six of them run two be and probably five of them

on YouTube but yeah this was this was phenomenally bad guys when you got that opening sequence with the jet ski and the the beach scene and that's where I was like I don't think this is the right date because they're not in a grocery store and I've always heard

this took place in a store but yeah when they've got that you realize it was aggressively 3D right when the guy was floating in the water with all the fake blood around him and then the title comes up towards you like a talking about that was practical

okay so do you guys ever remember SCTV comedy network work back in the day. This is... That's an American thing. It's like Eugene Levy and John Candy. Yes. It's not...

It's Canada's answer to Saturday Night Live. And... Okay. Yeah, it launched many a career. Martin Short, Eugene Levy, uh, yeah, John Candy, Catherine O'Hara. Yeah.

I think Catherine O'Hara has got to be there if Eugene Levy is. Absolutely. Absolutely. Super, super talented comedians. But they had a, they had a spoof called Dr. Tung's. house of beef. And it was John Candy and he would do kind of like it was like a midnight horror show that he would do. And it was in 3D and black and white. Of course, he would always take the,

he would hold like a piece of beef and like move it toward the camera with his hand and then back again toward the camera back again. That was definitely the vibe I was getting with the 3D face of this movie. I mean, Jesus Christ, man. This was just like horrible. Or this was. was like Vincent Price in the original house of wax where he was outside the house of wax with the little paddle with the ball on it and he would turn toward the camera with the ball holding the paddle going back and forth and the ball bouncing to the screen over and over again. That was this type of 3D. This was really bad.

I'm just like you guys. I don't know where the practical effects were. All I saw was like basically a tier two video game. that level of... It really was so bad. Incredibly bad. I mean, the only thing I could think of is maybe when you see the fin come out of the water

and swimming around. That's probably it, man. Yeah. Yeah, really. Doesn't the shark come up onto the, like, onto the, you know, the shelving at some parts? I think so. He has to, right?

Or she has to, right? Yeah, like he can leap up somehow. Well, wasn't it determined that it was a mother shark, right? Because they said it was 12 feet long, but he says, ah, I've seen sharks going by, five and six feet. That was pretty good. That wasn't bad, actually. That's better accent than the bloody Punisher guy. And you really paid attention to this movie because you're telling us dialogue from it.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not pick that out. I'm telling me it was, it was terrible. It was really bad. It wasn't so bad. It was good. I can't see myself ever watching this movie again.

Oh, no. If we hadn't had this, well, I take it back. I was intrigued because I used to work in grocery stores throughout my high school and college career, so I've got a lot of background in that. So I probably would have eventually watched it just to see a shark in a grocery store. But, man, for fuck's sake, they could have done better than this.

This was a piece. If I want to watch a movie based in a grocery store, I watch the mist any fucking day of the week. Absolutely. Yeah, and it's straight in black and white, right? I would watch Intruder. I haven't seen that. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Cheesy 80s slasher movie. Oh, yeah. We watched that one for the podcast, didn't we? Yeah. Okay. All right, yes. I think we need to move on with scores before we get too far deep into this one. Oh, Matt. Matt. That would be...

Right. I'm going to give it six out of ten. You did like it. I did. I had a laugh with it. It was so dumb. You know, I just love that a bit with the managers about to climb up through the hole and the cock. And the shark to jump and bites him in half.

I thought that was brilliant. I just howled. It was. I just howled with laughter when I watched that. It was, yeah, I had fun with it. I can't deny. shit but I had fun with it so six right one one to ten Kate uh I'm gonna go with a five clean in the middle yeah just like that guy after the sharp bit yeah like there was stuff that I enjoyed I laughed a lot

probably not where they meant me to laugh but I laughed regardless it was just it but I cannot in good conscious say that it was a good film um it was there was so much about it that was poor but like I didn't hate my time with it. I kind of felt mostly bad for making my friend endure it. Fair enough. At one point, actually, because it was quite late when we watched it. She's got a couple of kids, so we had to put them to bed and everything. And then, you know, so we didn't start until quite late.

And I was sort of like drifting off and she like jabs me in the side. And she's like, bitch, I am not watching this if you're not watching this. Like, she was so mad. She was just like, if I'm watching this, you are staying awake and watching this. I was like, yep, no, that's fair. That is fair. But yeah, no, it's five somewhere in the door. Brian, you get a torpedo this?

Three writers. Three writers. I feel, I'm going to give it a four. Wow. Okay. I felt let down. I'm not only myself for picking this movie. but also by the people that made it because

I got to go back to that opening scene where the guy dies on a jet ski and his friend yells no I sat up in my chair because I was like this is okay this is what kind of movie we're getting I'm gonna laugh my ass off and then like you said the Anakin Skywalker thing right

yeah and then all the characters started talking but also but also a cliffhanger Bye, Brian. With a no. And the scene at the very beginning, kind of like cliffhanger. Yeah, I just, I felt let down.

I really did. Yeah. I let you guys. Well, I didn't leave Matt down. Matt enjoyed it. And yet you gave it almost a half watermark on your score. Almost. Unbelievable.

Like I said, I, I like Sharnie Vincent. I like, I can't think of his name, Dr. Doom. Julian McMahon. Niptuck. Yeah.

The two doctors from nip-tuck, sure. Ah, that's where I've seen him from. What, the over-the-top guy? The other guy that was robbing the store. The good robber. I was trying to work out. I haven't seen Nip-Tuck, but I've seen enough of those, like, the adverts for it. And I was like, where the fuck have I seen him before?

And I was like, look for his IMD trying to, but I haven't seen any of this. So I thought, oh, maybe it just looks like someone. But yeah, this fucking nip-tuck, you're right. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, I enjoyed all that. And I thought it was, like I said, a great premise and area to have a shark attack movie, just people trapped in this supermarket from a tsunami. I thought that was a good idea.

It's just, like I said, everybody started talking and having side stories and their problems. And I didn't care. You didn't give a shit. Thank Gucci shoes. And I don't care. Oh, my God, that's so funny. Like, oh, sorry, they weren't actually Gucci. I was like, what are we doing?

I was excited. I threw off a laugh. I literally laughed so much. Like, this is the thing. I think those bits were supposed to be funny, but I was also just laughing so hard at the bits that were. Like, anytime anyone tried to emote any kind of emotion, like, I was just like, stop.

Just stop. Yeah. Yeah. Trying hard not to laugh in the scenes where you weren't supposed to laugh. You're supposed to be taking it seriously. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like when you're laughing at school in class and you're not supposed to.

Oh, yeah. And another thing I don't like, I don't like when the movie tells me who I'm supposed to like and not like, let me figure that on. No, don't have this guy, don't have this guy do something to the dog because you're really trying to, like Kate said, you're really trying to paint this guy as the bad guy when his girlfriend's kind of an asshole too. What I'm supposed to like her over him. I just feel he's exhausted with her. And as much as I do not want to see a dog die, like he's right. like what it, you know, like, it's, what is the dog or us? What would you prefer, you know, like?

I mean, I've seen other movies. He would have threw her instead. Oh, true. Be fair, actually, yeah, like, save the dog throw her 100%. Yeah, that's definitely the way forward. All right. She'd get it, though. He'd have been so happy.

She'd get it. Yeah, this was, uh, this, this was rough. This was, this was rough. Um, uh, man. I'll give it a two just because I had sharks. But that's about it. Well, and the Nip-Cut guy, and like you said,

the young lady that had been in some of the vampire shows that you were talking about. Like I said, a bit of a bright spot. At least she was maybe one and a half dimension instead of all the other characters which are painted as well. Yeah, let's move on. swiftly swiftly

any hell so I gave the higher score that's unbelievable I'm in a codible as Philip likes to say they there go Heather Powell I do like some movies

more than others and she's probably listening so she'll be listening I think any of the time that's ever happened on our show it's when we did terrify that's true part one or part two

part one Part one. It's a good one. I haven't seen part two. It's good, but it's very long. Is it, though? Is it? Yeah.

I like it. All right. Moving on, Meg to the Trench. As I recall, Brian, we didn't. None of us liked the first one that much. I hadn't seen it. I think I was the mat in that episode. I think I was the high one.

All right. Well, then maybe you'll be the high one again. A research team encounters multiple threats, while exploring the depths of the ocean, including a malevolent mining operation. I'm reading this out of IMDB. Director, yes, you heard this right, folks. I know.

And Ben Waitley. I know. Also known for Kill List and a killed in England. Again, such a disconnect. Okay, the Meg, I can't wait to hear you all. All right, the Meg too has been in the works since October 2018. Essentially right after the original movie released. By early 2019, producer Lorenzo de Bonaventura confirmed that a script was in the works

and the sequel gained momentum in October 2020 when Ben Wheatley was announced as the director. Okay, influenced by the strike of SAG AFRA, publicity activities such as the London premiere have all been canceled. The world premiere will be held in the Beijing National Indoor Stadium. because they'll sell out for anything, am I right? In fishing on July 28th so they can stamp Made in China on the back of this film, which is also the only premiere in the world.

And we're going to jump in. Kate, what did you think of this one? I feel like I'm probably going to be the only person here with this opinion. I have no, I haven't seen the first one. Like, I don't, you know, that I kind of went blind a little bit.

I knew it was Jason Statham, so I also knew that probably the tone it would be. Ben Wheatley kind of gave me pause just like, all right, this seems completely out of his wheelhouse, but let's see. You know, but like, I think, you know, I think that's what you're saying earlier. Like apart from like one or two, Jaws, I'm looking at you, Shark movies, you kind of know what you're getting with. Like, do you know what you're coming in to? and like this had a huge budget. It had all kinds of players behind it. And I feel like this movie is no more ridiculous

than some other bastard big blockbusters. And what I felt worked for it is I really loved the character dynamics. I liked all the characters. There were some really, the proper moments that got me jumping, like proper jumping in a seat. And, you know, I thought that the sharks are really cool. They didn't shy away from that at all.

I liked all the additional creatures. There's a bit where you've got, like, trying to spoil it too much, but you've got basically a Megalodon versus a fucking giant, cracking octopus. Yeah, I think we saw some of that in the trailer, so it's fair game. I don't really like, I don't like, I don't really like,

I don't really like, because I just, I think about it too much, and then I'm never surprised. But I was like, I was like a little kid, like eyes wide, just like, oh my God, you know. Jason Stathen was Jason Stathen doing what Jason Stathen does. But for the first time ever, this is a bit of a not really important comment. But for the first time ever, kind of fancied him. I never really saw his appeal. Because I don't, yeah, like, I don't really go for ball guys.

Not because they're not attracted. No, okay, I feel like, all right, this is going to be something I feel like I need to explain that. I'm also going to regret explaining. Let's just say I like guys with hair because I like to get a good grip. You wouldn't want to rub baby a while all over his bald head. No. No, but like, I don't know, I think maybe because I watched a porno with a ball guy recently. Jesus Christ.

But anyway, so, yeah, I quite fancied him for the first time. So that gave me a new appreciation. But like, and I just thought it was really suspenseful with what I found. quite interesting was that like the first half was like it could have been set in space, do you know what I mean? Like and there's always a comparison between like deep sea and deep space, you know,

like it's equally as unknown. It's, it's vast. It's, you know, there's all kinds of things. James Cameron gets it. Yeah, 100%. And I found all of that like really fascinating. I love the idea of this trench full of these like unknown species and

this completely unknown world. And then like, um, the second half was just like a full-blown action movie and it was kind of like two separate films but like I didn't I didn't hate it because I feel like it because it's quite a long film it broke it up and so it didn't feel long I predicted I predicted certain aspects which I won't spoil like you know certain character's things but but that's fine I don't hate on that

the ridiculous stuff like letting this 14 year old on this highly fucking dangerous mission in well did they let the 14 year old though they could have gone back up yeah I'm in an a ring and like fucking fist bumping over it's like dude I don't care how smart she is she is four fucking teen years old she said she was a scientist though

oh well in that case you can say I'm a fucking scientist oh cool let me go it's just like I don't know Like, I don't know, but before they could do anything, shit went down or whatever, and they were kind of in that situation. But I feel like as soon as they knew they were there, it's like, right, we're going back up, mission aborted, fucking get her out. What the fuck you should be doing? Get in your fucking room. That would have been the responsible thing.

Yeah. But I didn't hate it because I really liked her. And it's rare for me to like kids. I thought she was cool. So, like, all the kind of things that I would normally criticize and give shit for, I was like, no, whatever, it's fine. I don't care because there's something about it that worked for me. So I came away and I was like, I had a lot, like, two hours, I had a real fucking good two hours. Like, I had a real fucking good time.

Nice. All was great. They had some really funny moments, especially with all the tourists later on at fucking, it's fun island, a real place? No, it needs to be. It should be. It should be, right? It sounds like. Oh, as long as Epstein doesn't run it, we're okay.

Right. I was going to say, it should be next door to Hoar Island, you know, but like, whatever. If anyone hit what she's up. It just seemed like something that would be an archer. Do you know what I mean? Anyway. Yeah, like the characters, the very kind of side bit characters, they were hilarious, especially when they were getting kind of picked off or whatever.

That was great. I really liked, I don't know if they were in the first one, but I like the crew. You know, like they just seemed really cool. That was just, yeah, I just had, I came up with like a big grin on my face. It was kind of what I expected, but not what I expected. It was fun. It was gripping.

I didn't get bored. And the sharks were fucking cool. And they were a good prominent part. It was like fucking Jurassic Park, Jurassic World Three. There was like no fucking dinosaurs. Like they gave you other stuff to play with. But the sharks were still very much a predominant thing. So yeah, fucking I had a good time.

The end. The end. I'll go next, I guess. Yeah, please. I had seen the first Meg movie. and I just thought it was okay it wasn't quite worse I'm looking forward to

it was more of an action movie than a than a shark movie really if that makes sense yeah much much less than I was expecting yeah and almost no violence no eating people just like exactly

see I'm not really into action movies as I've got an older I don't know what it is but yeah for me this one, it wasn't why I was expecting. You know, obviously, like Kate said, it's split into two sort of sections. The first section is like the abyss. At least two.

At least two. You know, and I wasn't expecting in that whole abyss type scenario. And it was all like, you know, running out of oxygen, we're under water, blah, blah, blah. We need to get... Which is fine. It was all right. you know, and then obviously the second half is where, you know, where you start getting your sharks and run a mock.

But then you're throwing all this other stuff in there, the giant crack and the dinosaurs, how they managed to, you know, survive millions of years underwater. What? Crocodiles do? Okay. Crocodiles having patience at the beginning of time. No, I spoke.

Okay. But, yeah, okay. I found it dragged on a bit for me. I found two hours a bit too long. I hate Jason Statham. I think he's a twat. Punchable faces, they say. Oh, I just can't.

I just, he does exactly the same thing in every film with these stupid one-line of quips. And I don't give a shit. Oh, I really, yeah. fucking stick around my you know oh piss off yeah the fan line oh my god see you lay that chum it was so iroll worthy bitch oh god i hate that shit um i mean you know ben weakly films i i love kill list i think kill list is fucking awesome i hated a field in england oh come on man no i hated that he hates it so fucking my i i i i i hate it so fucking my i i i i

I really didn't like that. It really irritated me. Why? I don't know why he did this. Did you change it up? I suppose so. Well, yeah, the cash. And the cash, yeah.

I thought the sharks looked really cool. Actually, I thought the CGI, obviously, they spent the money well on CGI. I prefer practical, like we all do. But for CGI sharks and other monsters, I thought they look pretty cool. I'll give me that. With one glaring exception, which I'll talk about when it's my... Okay. Is that the Finn?

I'll talk about it in a bit. Yeah, look, it's okay. It's okay. For me, personally, it was just okay. Okay. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Brian, can you bob us back up to the surface? I actually enjoyed this movie A little bit more than I did the original Or the first one And I think Ben Wheatley did this movie I think he must be a fan of B movies Like B movie monster movies

When he was growing up Because I think he just Went in this and I'm Just with the idea that's what I'm going to make and that's what he made. That's what this movie is. It's a fun bead movie with giant killer sharks and crackens and other little creatures that pop up on Fun Island.

And I love that they took us in the abyss. They took us somewhere else for most of the movie, unlike the first movie was primarily set in the same place. Yeah. And I don't like all this. Matt, I don't like all this bad talk about Jason Statham. Oh, do you like him? Yes, I kind of see what Kate's saying.

I see the appeal. Oh, I'll get you, Saylor. He's got a bit of a sexy smile and stuff. Cooey. I don't know. I'd be a bit of rough in time. Oh, hi, sailor. And what was the line with the chum?

Sailors. See later, Tom. Put that on T-shirt and I'll wear it. I think we will. I thought the CGI was pretty good for what it was. Matt, I do agree with you. We all wish things could be practical, but I think for what they had to do in this movie,

it was needed, and I thought it looked pretty good. I thought the action was pretty good. The runtime was way too long for me. I just feel like as I'm getting older, and Lance, you know, I watch a lot of movies. I just feel like the two-hour-plus movies are sometimes it's just too much. I agree.

Totally great. The sidecast was pretty entertaining. I did, or I didn't like how I was able to figure out who. Was the bad guy? No, who's the bad guy? Yeah, I figured that out. Because they did certain things that were like basically telling you this person's bad. And I was like, stop.

Just stop. Yeah. But that was by design too, I think. Yeah, but I just, I like to be surprised. I do. I don't like, oh, this is going to happen. That's going to happen. That person's going to die.

But overall, I think I came out and joined this more than the original one. Matt, I think you said the first one was mostly pretty much an action movie. I think they kind of added more comedic beats to this one than they did the first one. Agreed. Yeah. Not a spoiler. it was in the trailer. I thought the mech suits were pretty awesome

that they're trying to they know what happened in the first one so they had to up their technology and stuff like that for this one. I kind of like the progression of the story from the last one. I say that loosely story. But yeah,

I had fun with it. Nice. All right. So Kate, earlier you said something about Scooby-Doo. yeah so and you said it scares your daughter yeah she hasn't even watched it i just showed her like a fucking trailer of it she's like no it's too scary i'm like what the fuck you know what i i will give her this scooby-do animation is absolutely more believable than the opening fucking sequence in this movie where they showed 500 million years ago you know that was really i don't understand the point of that

I don't understand the point of that opener. I just felt like I was in a museum of natural history in their IMAX theater watching a history movie that a bunch of scientists made instead of filmmakers. But anyway, that's how the movie started. And did we get into the, as you said, Brian, the quote-unquote story where you find out that Jason Statham is an eco-warier. And, oh, they're definitely a great issue. first film. They're dumped up in radiation in the water. And I'm a one man.

I'm a one man. I'm a one man wrecking crew that's going to go through the entire cast of characters on this, on this ship. I don't, well, I don't know if you guys had noticed, but he could have easily ended that with just one, you know,

half person having to fight at the beginning there. But he'd let, get left the door open. And then they started pouring in. in typical kung fu style. He was fighting him. They came to him, they approached him one at a time for their ass kicking. So I don't know, man, I'm about halfway through this movie.

Well, maybe about a third of the way through this movie, and I'm starting to think, oh, my God. This is going to make a list this year, but not the top list. And then something funny happened. I don't know what it was. There was a palpable shift. and I had even totally forgotten that Ben Wheatley directed this movie. So the entire time I'm in the theater, I don't know who directed this.

I just think this is more garbage. This is going to be more of the same crap that they gave us in the first movie where it's a whole bunch of setup and a whole bunch of shit talking and posturing and no fucking on-screen kills and no violence. Oh, my God. When it hit that point, and I can't say exactly what that point was, but I shall be re-watching this movie because I really want to go see this in 3D now.

I am fucking 100% on board. Ben Wheatley, you know what you're doing, my friend. This is a beautiful movie. I absolutely love what he did with this. He took every B movie action. Okay, so first I thought I was watching the 1950s creature from 50,000 leagues below the sea movie. Then I think I'm watching a 60s sci-fi movie.

Then I think I'm watching the James Bond movie. Then I think I'm watching, you know, fucking a Vietnam jungle fighting the Nazis Kung Fu movie where the guys are walking around with machine guns and wearing sunglasses

out in the jungle. This had all the marks. And when we started getting into the comedy and I knew for a fact that whoever made this film knew absolutely positively exactly what they were doing, I realized, that this is one of the funnest movies

that I'm going to see this year. So it's really funny. So Renfield was tops for me. And it had that over the top to it. And this is definitely going to be on my top 10. And this has one of those over-the-top fields to it. But my God, by the time we were into the third act, and you had tentacles going everywhere,

and you had Fun Island. And, oh, my God, these characters were fantastic. There's not a single one that I didn't love. The villains were so over-the-top, especially the main villain, and they did it the way they're supposed to do it. In the sequence, and I don't want to get into spoilers, but they, very well done, Ben Wheatley, very well done, sir. Great homage to B movies, great homage to old sci-fi movies, great homage to 80s action,

and great homage to everything we love about shark movies. I absolutely fucking adored this movie, and I left the biggest smile on my face you could imagine. So I think we need to get into scores. Cool. Straight in with scores. He's going first. You started. Oh, oh, okay.

I am going to go with, I reckon a 7.5 for now. It could even go up to an 8 on repeat watches. It was so much fun. Yeah, this is a repeat watcher for sure. Yeah. Yeah, 7.5. I'm going to go six out of ten. Not bad.

Not bad. I'll give it a strong seven. Nice. Strong seven. Okay. I expect it higher, but I'm going eight on this one. This is the top ten. I had more fun in this that I've had in the theater in a long time.

And it was actually, it's kind of funny because I saw it in the sort of run down older AMC theater. because of the timing and I had to be at the granddaughter's school for a meet-the-teacher thing and it was like being in an 80s movie theater it literally was

the screen was one I wish I had man but I'm going to go back and see this in the new the new theater in three years eight out of ten that's like Lance

that's like a 10 from Lance this is a new classic no for me this is a new classic I could watch Oh, my God. Steady on. I did not like the mag, but I love this one. Can I give it a seven and three quarters?

Whatever you want. You can give it anything. I love it. All right. Spoiler time. Who wants to go first? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. alert. You've been fucking warned. I think I've already spoiled it. I completely forgot about spoilers. Sorry, everybody. I mean, I'll jump to the end. I thought it's ridiculous, but it was badass. Jason Statham kills a Megalodon with the helicopter propeller.

Oh, it's so good. And when it comes out of the back, and its whole body is splitting, it's, oh, it's fucking good. But I will say as much as I love that they went into the abyss, they went so far deep, it was kind of hard to see what was really going on. I know that they're trying to give us the perspective of that's how it would really be, but we're not there watching it. They are. But then again, if they lit everything up, there would be people complaining.

That's not how it would be. Where is the light coming from down there? Yeah, I think how it would be. be in that camp, to be honest. Like, I would rather it be a little bit more accurate. I mean, I know what you're saying, but, like, I didn't feel like I lost anything from it. And I feel like the wider shots, like, of all of the,

it was like looking at something out of like, you know, blue planet with David Ambera kind of thing, all the different colors and things like that was just so cool. Like, I love, I love watching documentaries about the deep, like the deep ocean anyway. So that it was just like really appealed to me. I did kind of like that part of the film better when it was called underwater Kristen Stewart a couple

years ago. That's a great movie. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I enjoyed that one. Yeah. It just went bad shit crazy, guys. A little before halfway through the movie, there was just a twist, and all of a sudden you realized that the

filmmakers knew exactly what they were doing. I think when you got when they came out of the abyss and had to warn everybody at Fun Island. That was it. I was like, okay, here we go. Okay. Everything escapes me with the thermocline.

You've got an hour before it closes. All right, yeah. Okay, I believe you. Were these like Bond villains or what, guys? Oh, 100%. There's something that you were saying about the beginning where he's like, you know, one-man army kind of thing. It's like, yeah, but so's Bond apparently.

Yeah. I think if I remember correctly in the first one, Wasn't he like a rescue specialist? Okay, that makes sense, sure. Yeah, like, yeah. Is he always been like an Eco Warrior type guy? Like, is that his stick? Not from what I can remember in the first one.

No, I can't remember that from first one. I think we get introduced to his character, him and his team, go underwater to rescue sailors in a submarine or something or underwater lab, and that's pretty much what he does. I don't know where he became an eco-referral. warrior. Okay. Well, maybe it's, maybe it's the, maybe it's the sea near Florida being registered at

101 degrees and all the coral reefs dying off because of climate change. That might have something to do with it, guys. Yeah, maybe. I've got a question. What was the, what's with the Chinese connection? It was evident, wasn't it? Yeah. I think it's like what I said about the Netflix movie Hidden Strike.

I think it was just all these production companies. I think so too. Attached to it. Right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It was just like, okay.

I mean, we're in the cinema and this particular showing had subtitles. Yes. But then there was like double subtitles because it was obviously a lot of Chinese going on. Sure. Subtitles on top of your subtitles, right? I was just like, okay. I got no problem with it. It just seemed really awesome.

Yeah, it seemed a little strange. I know a lot of the movie posters that came out for promotion. I know a lot of them were in Chinese, so I think whichever production company or companies that were involved, I think they put a lot of money into this movie. Okay. Like Lance said, they had the premiere. Yeah, well, yeah. It kind of makes sense, though, with the technology and everything, like the advancements of China,

the China apparently makes some things. like for me that wasn't really like any kind of issue I was like okay that makes sense and was the little girl was she in the first one because it seemed like that was a fair one story right so again that kind of sense yeah so that makes sense with her and her uncle and stuff you know like

was Jason Satan's the dad no I didn't I didn't understand the connection there I think he was friends with the mom and the grandfather and the first one so I think he kind of took on like a oh right

got you Yeah, like it's like a surrogate type thing. All right. Well, there's not too much to spoil, right? I mean, real quick, I just, I hated the nods on the one chick being the, the, the traitor. That was a little obvious. Like you said, the shifty eyes, the camera view of her face while she's on a computer and she's like kind of looking to see. Yeah.

See anybody's watching. And I was like, okay. Okay. So we're the traitor. I kind of think that was a little bit by design, too. I'm going to give Ben Wheatley a pass on that because I think he knew what he was doing there. Well, I would be surprised if he didn't like. The guy is like, you know, his filmmaking is, it's a lot.

It's subtle. It's not like he doesn't do anything by accident. I don't think. I don't think so. So, and I think someone with his experience and stuff, I would say that that would be, like, that would be very unlikely that he would make something like that. so obvious by accident. But like, I, yeah, I don't care. It was kind of like, if anything, it was just kind of like,

yeah, fucking knew it. You know, like, fucking knew it was, you know, like... That fucking bitch. Yeah, I fucking didn't trust her with a shifty glasses. Now she's suddenly not wearing her shifty glasses. Now we know the truth. And then you find out, then you find out she's in love with the main villain? Oh, I know.

Yeah. Oh, really? The 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger villain. It really is. But again, I feel like it was very much done on purpose. It's that. say it's like be budget action like creature feature like a march kind of thing like i just feel like this was ben really just as you said it's like taking all the stuff that he loved growing up

and getting into film and putting it into a movie and getting the fucking budget for it and just being like i'm going to have fun with my toys you know like 100% but like i really do you what really freaks me out actually like just the thought of it first or two things one the head implosion that like oh that was cool i thought that That was so cool. And also I could not help but think of the recent submarine Titanic issue. Oh, yes. I was like, oh, you're like that.

And then the second thing was when on the Fun Island when Meg is like going, like basically scooping up everyone in the mouth and they're going into the mouth whole. And you have a POV of it like from in the mouth. And I was just like, and I've never. I considered that before ever with like, I always thought they would get chewed up. But like, no, my God, you go down as esophagus into your whole, you're alive, you're like, it just,

oh, God, that is like my worst nightmare. Kind of like the alien and nope in that one scene, right? Right? That's true. Yes. Very much. And that freaks me out. It's about the only thing in that film they did freak me out. But like, it was, yeah, that concept, like, it's like being buried alive.

It's like, you know, like I would just rather be eaten, Ian having no no no no and having the terror around you and everyone else panic around you and being crushed no no thank you don't like it I'm good yeah that really spooking out like I was just like what did you have to get real with it I was having fun here any anything else to add Brian no I think that's it all right well guys thanks thanks for joining um the the couple of listeners that don't know where to find you from Matt's multiple appearances on the show, where are you guys out there? Go Kate. Oh, okay.

I figured you might think that you've done it on here before, but all right, I'll do it. So, yeah, you can find our show Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotless Minds. Excuse me, that is, on Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts. And you can also find us through like Anchor FM, which is like our little platform. Sure. You can find us on Facebook and on Instagram. We don't do any of the socials because they're rubbish and we don't like him. And we don't have time for TikTok.

But yeah, so you can like, yeah, or you can email us as well. Like it's on all of our episodes, but it's just Edmonds and Podcasts at Email.com. But yeah, it's basically it. It's just like me and Matt taking the piss at each other, chatting movies. And then I also have, can I do my other show promo? Oh, please. Go on. Yes.

No, yeah. So I have another show called Heart of Horror, which is under the dark parade on all your normal platforms, and that's with my co-host by Ryan Store, and it's just sexy talking horror movies, basically. House of Horror, huh? Yeah, Heart of Horror, huh? Yeah, yeah.

So it's basically horror movies that have, like, relationship or sex themes, and then we take those themes. We talk about the movie, and then we relay our own personal anecdotes, which are usually funny or embarrassing. or both or gross or, you know, whatever. Also very personal, and I have to get quite drunk to do that episode

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So much fun. Any time. And I guess we'll talk afterwards when we're going to record the other show with you guys. Yeah. For sure. All right. And to everyone else, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. We're up to 376 episodes, if you can believe that.

What? That is insane. And it all started with a really bad Kevin Bacon movie. And it will end on a really bad Kevin Bacon movie. That might break us. What was it? The darkness. Jesus.

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As you should. So we're going to go on the last voyage of the Demeter and also check out Bram Stoker's Dracula. So Matt, until the horror returns again. Good die.