The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #379: The Year In Horror 1990 Part 2 - Frankenhooker & Night Of The Living Dead

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Chad C joins us this week to talk about a few films of 1990. Taking a break from Binge Media Presents: Movie Homework, Chad steps into the time machine with us to uncover a few gems! Cool of the Week ...includes Bottoms, Strange New Worlds, and Kill Boksoon. Trailers are V/H/S/85 and Satanic Hispanics. The podcast spotlight shines on I Like it Spooky. And we get feedback from Legion Podcasts, The Podcast That Wouldn't Die, Cameron Sullivan, Steven Lowblad, Chai Simone, Jerry Eberts, Xim Vader, Marquetta Jones, Mike Batchelor, and Al Ramseur. Let's welcome our newest members: Zackary Akers and Gary Dando. AND A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR NEWEST PATREON PATRONS: HEATHER POWELL AND Y.S. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. And welcome back, one and all, to the horror returns.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Lance, and with me as always, my co-host, Brian Phillip, and tonight we got Chad C with us, man. It's been a long time, dude, I haven't seen you since Frightmare, and I have been listed to some movie homework. I'm glad somebody turned me on to that. What's up with you, man? I'm good, man. You want a date?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Looking for some action? Going out? Yeah, man. Got money? Got any money? You're going to get a way better Jersey accent, because that's what makes it. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:33 You need to go back to Jersey, back to Lala from last month. Yeah, we restarted movie homework back up. Jack and I in January. took a little bit of a hiatus and then yeah new format everything we've been working through it it's been pretty fun to do and I think you you just did a little bit of a special episode with Jack as well yeah and I had to go okay so here's the thing I didn't have it in my feed because I wasn't finding it on the main feed so can you let our listeners know where to find the the feed for movie homework yes we're actually a separate
Starting point is 00:02:05 from the binge feed now it's just straight movie homework if you search that on a Benj Media presents movie homework on any place you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify. Yeah, you can find it there and, yeah, download, subscribe, do all that fun stuff. But we did just announce as well on the Patreon that Venge is coming back as well in September. So, yeah. Well, I guess you guys will start taking my money again because you've there for a while. You weren't taking my money every month. It's right.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Took a little reset this summer, but the boys will be back in September rolling. All right. I play a little boys are back in. I guess, huh? Precisely, precisely. So how was Lala, dude? Obviously, I didn't make it. Brian didn't make it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Philip didn't make it. Was Pat there? I don't think so. Pat did not. Yeah, Pat didn't make it out. No, it was good, man. It was a lot more small this year, but it's, yeah, more intimate, but it was a good time. First time in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Had a little bit of trouble getting out of there. I think PJ and I, our flights got canceled out. So stay an extra day, each of us. But, yeah, it was a good seeing Everett again. It was the first time in, you know, however many years all the benders were together. And, yeah, it was fun. Miss you, miss you guys, for sure. But it was next year.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Thanks, dude. Thanks. Any basketball game going on? Any video basketball games going on? Yeah, a little NBA jam was played. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it might be, no asteris this year. There wasn't a broken joystick.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So Pete and Law took the title. Nobody convinced this year that they got fucked. That's right. It's right. It was Pete's personal cabbets. it. That's right. That's right. I don't know. He might have done some work in the back there. I don't know and figured it out, but they ended up winning
Starting point is 00:03:45 and they kept the fidget spinner. All right. Because my fucking controller's not working has never been an excuse for somebody to lose. That's right. All right, Chad. You've listened to us enough, man. And you've guessed it enough, although it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But we won't wait so long next time. But you know how we start, dude? Cool of the week. It can be it can be Lollapalooza. It can be a concert, movie, TV show. Totally here. Yep, yep. So I've got two. I've got a TV show and a movie.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Covered all bases here. Have you guys ever seen How It's Too with John Wilson on HBO? No. No? No. Okay, so yeah, that's the problem. How to do with John Wilson? See, that's the problem. The final episode airs this Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's been three seasons, six episodes. It's a comedy docu-series. His name is John Wilson. It's mostly all film. in New York. Nathan Fielder, if you've ever seen Nathan for you, as one of the executive producers on it. Very dry sense of humor,
Starting point is 00:04:46 but it's mainly him documenting just people of New York essentially, and then tying it into him trying to, like, navigate his life. It's super fucking funny. Highly recommend, like I said, it started in October of 20, six episodes, then,
Starting point is 00:05:02 six episodes in 21, the second season, and then the third and final season ends Friday, but really good shit. 25 episodes Yeah Regardless of the name change Max is still putting some good shit out Yes yeah
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah it's good shit Good shit so that's my show I would highly recommend that And in the movie I've got is bottoms You know what this is? Bottoms, I've heard of it I've seen the trailer Well that's scandalous
Starting point is 00:05:29 Oh, thank you Oh, bottoms behave So this is Rachel Seligman she did Shiva Baby a couple years ago, if you ever saw that. This is the Ayahedibari from the, where's their name? How do you say her name? Ayo Adabiri and Rachel Senate. They're both two gay females in high school who are going off to college and they are trying to get laid essentially.
Starting point is 00:05:57 So they think that in order to do that, they will start a fight club at their school. Oh, God. Is that out already? Yeah, so it released in New York in L.A. last week and then it's going a wide. this week's about five six hundred runs so it should be somewhere around you um this is the movie that like book smart that Olivia wild did wanted to be um yes yes because i thought that that was just like a blatant rip off of super bad and they even cast Jonah hill's sister in it and it's like this is not funny this is super super fucking crude just ridiculous heightened level of like what a high school like
Starting point is 00:06:30 the football players are all the guys like are in their football pads the whole time in class the whole time. They're just fucking stupid. It doesn't, it doesn't do that. Hey, I have a penis. Exactly. Yeah, is one of the football players, I got to ask you, like scary movie where he keeps trying to get his girlfriend to put him on the pads and a strap on?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Not quite that far. Okay, okay. But he might be like banging a lot of the high schoolers, moms and shit. And, yeah, it's, it's not like a beastie over the head men are like, fucking stupid. It's just particularly like these football players are essentially. But yeah, I thought this movie is really fucking funny. Really decent high school
Starting point is 00:07:12 comedy and it seems everyone's loving it so far. The critics and audience score has been pretty high up there. But I was expecting absolutely nothing out of it and I thought it was really fucking funny. So I recommend The other one wasn't bad. I can't even remember the name of it. I'm like Olivia Wiles.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, the Booksmart. Yeah, I like this way more than I liked Book Smart. I was not a fan of it. Oh, wow. I like book smart, so, okay. Yeah, I didn't hate it. I just, like, I wish it was better, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's what I got. So I got a movie and a TV for you. Very nice. Got a two-for. What's you got, Philip? Fuck, man, I don't know. Every time you ask me this question, every week, it's like I don't expect it. I'm like, oh, shit, did I watch anything?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I don't remember watching it. Man, I think I'd just been working too much. It happens. I'll probably come up with something happen. way through the show, but as of right this second, the only thing I've watched is some stupid
Starting point is 00:08:10 bikini dating show that my wife was watching. I don't even know what the fucking name of it. Yeah, no, I mean, they're in like gongs all the time, but there's like 150 episodes in a season. And I was like, who are these people? Why are they still here?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Is it like Bachelor in Paradise or something? Some shit. I can't have a fucking love island. Oh, love island. I think it's Love Island. Gotcha. But it's one of those generic fucking things. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That's the only thing that I can think of that I've watched because it's intruded in my brain and I can't get rid of it. But there's got to be something in there that I've watched in the past couple of weeks that's better than that. I'll think of it later, but at the moment, no. Oh, boy. Brian, do you have a laundry list? You want to jump in? I have two and a half movies I've watched. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'll start with the half movie. I started that movie, Um, Polite Society. Yes, I've heard good things. Heard good things. It's, uh, it's essentially, um, a young, um, a young girl who's, uh, she wants to be an aspiring stunt woman. Has to. Oh, is this like the Indian movie? Yeah, she has to...
Starting point is 00:09:34 Okay, yeah. Basically, it's kind of like a heist movie. She has to save her sister from getting married in an arranged marriage. Well, that sounds promising. Is it as cool as it looks? I've fallen asleep twice, watching it.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I knew it. I knew it. You fell asleep during the musical number. No, actually, nothing really happens in the first. I've probably gotten maybe 30 minutes into it and I fall asleep both times. Oh, no. Some of the action sequences,
Starting point is 00:10:10 they're pretty good. It's just I can't tell if they're really happening. I don't know if it's that kind of movie, if it's happening in her head or if the whole saving my sister from her arranged marriage is even a real situation that needs to be worth
Starting point is 00:10:28 that much attention. I don't know. Like I said, I can't give it a fair assessment. I've fallen to sleep twice, but it probably doesn't help it's been super late every time I've tried to put it on. Yeah, I figured that was one of those where the preview
Starting point is 00:10:44 was way better than the actual movie. It's got a high rotten tomato score and I've heard a lot of people say good things about it. The trailer was awesome. Yeah, so a lot of the guys at the Benchcast
Starting point is 00:11:00 liked it. I heard a couple of good reviews over there. So, Chad, you saw it, right? I actually, no, I actually haven't seen Pletza. Ah, a blind spot for Chad. It's a first time ever. It's on the list to watch before 2020. Yeah. It's for decent thing.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Hopefully I'll watch it when I'm not as tired, and I'll probably speak on it some more next episode. But I'm continuing watching non-horror movies. I'm saving up, still making my list for 31 for October. So I'm just kind of watching whatever I find. Watched new Jennifer Lopez action comedy, shotgun wedding. Oh, Lord. It was a lot better than the mother, I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Didn't even know that was a thing. I don't agree. Better than mother. Oh, way better than mother. Better than mother with Jennifer Lawrence? The mother. Anybody who worked that damn movie in. It was fucking garbage.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. And I will say, I have to bring misogyny cast back just for one second. There's a scene where she's trying to entice her fiancé to come to bed to get it on, and she is in T-shirt and panties. I recommend the movie just for that scene. Nice. There's that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And go ahead. Well, the whole thing, massagency cast, we're talking about Frankenhugger later, so I think we're going to cover those bases. Hey, Jay Lozot, man. What are you going to do? She, she. She does not, what is she in her 50s now? Maybe 60.
Starting point is 00:12:41 She doesn't look at. No, she's not at all. Gorgeous. You're at Selma Hayek, man. I was going to say drinking from the same fountain, salmon. Yeah. But playing her fiance was Josh Dumel and he looks about 50. I always loved referring to Fergie as Josh Jamel's penis garage.
Starting point is 00:13:02 let's see cool the week i'll go with uh little uh action movie i found on netflix called uh kill boxoon what i can't even spell that help me out a b o k s o n kill boxer uh sure okay is it like a k uh k uh k uh k uh sure okay is it like a korean thing uh i don't know necessarily I don't want to call it out for not being the right one. But essentially, I give you the opening scene. Like, she's an assassin. She has somebody she's supposed to kill.
Starting point is 00:13:44 She wants to give him a fighting chance. So she gives him back his katana and they're going to fight. And they have a fight scene. And but then she just ends up shooting him in the head because she's got to get to the grocery store because her, she got to cook dinner for her daughter. Just like Indiana Jones. Yeah, and I thought it was a good balance of action and kind of drama because she's kind of going through, she's got a teenage daughter, so you already know what she's going through with a teenage daughter. And the whole fact that she's hiding, that she's an assassin, because I don't even know what her, I think her daughter just thinks she has a boring office job or something. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Speaking to which, Brian, did you ever finish Fubar? no. I'd finish no shows I started. Yeah. Yeah, I watched like an episode. I didn't really get it to it either. Nobody, on the other hand, same concept. Yeah. Great. Fantastic. Yeah, just like I didn't even, you were messaging me asking if I started Asoka. I don't even want to start it because I've finished no Star Wars show. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. And I'm a Star Wars nerd. I don't even want to watch it. Oh, no. Come on. You're. gonna watch it. I will. I will at some point. I've heard you have to do homework though. You have to watch Rebels and Clone Wars to know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, like you gotta watch the animated series to know who these characters are and I don't have time. I've seen some of each but I'm not fixing to watch the whole thing. I've heard they're both good but it's just like devoting the time to plow through those. Like no, I don't have that time. They're also cartoons. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It won't be as bad as death note. I guarantee you that. of it. But yeah, that's all I got time for, killbox. All right. It was a good, good action drama. And there was a couple times in some of the fight scenes, they mixed in a little bit of comedy in there. So I thought it was a good mixture.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Unlike, I can't remember what movie I was telling you about. The Jennifer Lawrence movie that she just came out with the comedy, which I... No hard feelings. Mother? Yeah. Mother. No hard feelings. No hard feelings.
Starting point is 00:16:02 No hard feelings. Yeah. I couldn't. The movie to me just didn't know if it wanted to be a raunchy comedy or a romantic comedy. Did you love for her head on that CGI body on the beach? I hated it so fucking much. I love the people actually think that that's her actual body. It's like there's no fucking chance.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I know, man. Hard to believe, right? Well, you think of Jennifer Lawrence as doing the nude scene, somebody would be talking about it. And then when she was coming out of water, I was like, is she going to be full frontal? and as soon as I saw the different tones of skin her head and her body. What a shame. What a shame.
Starting point is 00:16:41 At least it wasn't Javier Bardem's body. She's so pretty but so fucking dumb. You can watch Red Sparrow. She shows a titty and half a butt cheek or something, right? Yeah, it's true. Hey, take what you can get. That's what I say. fucking boring movie red sparrow yeah it kind of was man it was like right it was like uh black widow
Starting point is 00:17:10 what black widow what black widow should have been but like okay boring i don't know it's worse yeah that's all i got i was gonna start indiana jones because i see that's that's available now but on disney now no it's uh ah okay gotcha gotcha gotcha They threw it overboard. Whatcha McCulloch? They've already released it on VOD last voyage at the meter. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I might try to find that one tonight then. Since every single fucking one of us missed it, most embarrassing podcast ever. Well, it came out. I haven't listened to you guys didn't watch it. No. Not a one of all four of us. It came out two weeks ago in the theater and it's already on VOD.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Sounds like nobody watched it. It bombed fucking, oh, it was... We know the story, right? We know the story. Also, I would say probably far from the most embarrassing broadcast, but just don't have that. We saw a whole hour to go here.
Starting point is 00:18:14 This could get it. All right. Did you think of one, Phil? No, I have not. I'm going to go to my favorite toy box, and I finally started watching the new season of Star Trek, Strange New Worlds, guys.
Starting point is 00:18:31 and it's everything you want from if you're an original series fan it's got everything you want it's got a time travel story let's see i'm only like three episodes in and we've already had we've had a time travel story um we've had an alternate dimension story and we're slowly working our way toward the pinnacle of the season brian which i cannot wait for which is the musical episode oh jesus god damn christ musicals. Yes. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:19:04 So I'm all in. I don't want to give anything away. If you know the lore, you kind of know it. It's almost like they're trying to retcon a few things, but they always come right back to original Star Trek lore. So I'm enjoying it. Strange New Worlds, Season 2. I know it's already been renewed for season 3.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That is, if these strikes ever end, which maybe we'll talk about, Next, Brian. Do you have any headlines for us? Yeah, first I want to say rest in peace to Terry Funk, Bray Wyatt,
Starting point is 00:19:40 Bob Barker, and Arlene Sorkin. A lot of people don't know Arlene Sorkin. She was the voice of Harley Quinn from the Batman animated series. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Okay. All passed away within the past few days. Damn. One of the best things I heard about Bob Barker, though, is he went as close to 100 as he could without going over. That's right. December was his birthday, right? I think.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. No shit. No shit. Okay. All right. I could live with that, man. That wouldn't be a bad way to go. With the strike going on, a lot of movies are getting pushed back, but there's going to be a lot of premieres of TV shows.
Starting point is 00:20:23 First, American Horror Story, Delicate, part one, premieres September 20th. American Horror Stories Season 2 I don't even know if it's a season They're calling it a four episode event So the stories Is the like anthology one right? Yeah each episode is a
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah It's a song contain story That premieres September 20th Or I'm sorry October 26 Um Lance has been asking about this one And he happens to get up from the podcast
Starting point is 00:20:58 Lance Yes Mike Flanagan's The Fall of the House of Usher will premiere October 12th I have been looking forward to that all year Archer Yeah we'll see if it beats out
Starting point is 00:21:13 Beef as my favorite TV show The singer Yeah What'd you think about beef, Chad? Did you check that out? I liked beef, yeah, it was good I never watched it I love that
Starting point is 00:21:24 I love that surreal final episode man It was just like perfectly placed. Mm-hmm. You said I'm watching, Phil? No. I keep scrolling past it and I want to check it out, but I haven't actually signed up for it yet. Yes, because you guys know I don't finish any show.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I finish that one in like a couple days. Yeah, I remember you're talking about it, which makes me think that I'm really going to like it. And so it's on the list. It just... Right. I got a lot of shit to do, man. I take it, I take it back. I take it back.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It might be a tie between that and the bear season two, because we caught all of that in one, in one night, literally. Started watching it seven and ended it like 2.30 a.m. So that's one that I legitimately want to watch two. How many, how many seasons is that? Two. Two?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Okay. All right. Eight episodes, yeah, there's a couple of longer. It's a season, but yeah, it's mostly half hour. Yeah, I got to check that out. I like that guy. He was from, what was he from?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Shameless. Shamry Ellen White. Ah, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. I like him. All right. Dark Castle Entertainment is developing a 13 ghost series.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Wow. I can see that. It would be a 13 episode series. Of course. delve more into the backstories of each ghost. Of course. What else would it be, Dan? It also
Starting point is 00:23:06 sound like what I read about it. It might be also a continuation from the movie because the guy was to make, he made sure to bring up that at the spoilers for anybody hasn't seen it. At the end of the movie, the ghosts were freed and they kind of walked off and went their own place.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Oh yeah. It's been ages as I've seen 13 ghosts. I don't remember. but think about that movie. Been a minute. It's, you know, it's not the greatest,
Starting point is 00:23:31 but it is fun. I remember liking it. I didn't hate it. That's for sure. I just don't know if I want to see 13 episodes each one of that, one of the fucking ghosts. It had the scream guy in it.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I love him. You know what? I really do. I have like a strong affection towards that guy. I don't understand why. No. I think we reviewed it
Starting point is 00:23:53 around the time when we tried to get a sound bite from. Shannon Elizabeth and she didn't want to do it. She dissed us. I don't do podcasts. She probably has her own podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Oh, I'm sure she does. Podcasts are going nowhere. Now I'm doing it. Oh, yeah. It's not the new wave at all. Yeah, go back to radio. At AM, not even FM, go back to AM. Having said that.
Starting point is 00:24:19 That's the future. That's the future, boys. If Shannon Elizabeth had her only fans, Yeah. Would you buy it? Would I buy it? Would I buy it? No. But would I be tempted?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. See if you could find an anonymous movie guy that could... She's still hot, dude. I can't hate on Shannon Elizabeth. Yeah. All right. Those looking forward to Doom Part 2 are going to have to wait until March 15th,
Starting point is 00:24:52 2024 Hmm Oh what? Was originally scheduled To come out November 3rd Yeah Of this year
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah Yeah What the fuck Chad why is that Dude you're an industry insider Is it Is it because they hadn't finished it Or
Starting point is 00:25:09 I mean There's There's so much writing on that movie I mean it's Okay You've got You're bringing Zendaya Into the cast
Starting point is 00:25:16 Who can't Promote Zendaya Whatever She's an international star she can't if the strikes happening she can't promote it Austin Butler's coming off Elvis you're bringing in all these new Florence Pugh from off and that's right you're bringing in all these people that are super hot right now into a cast and if they can't promote the movie that's
Starting point is 00:25:34 an international movie I mean the first one yeah and the first one did you know a decent business during October of 21 when COVID was still fucking at the height of it it was day and it still made a lot of money and it won six Oscars as well so it's like there's there's a lot more into it and then yeah they've used that was like the worst kept secret That was the movie that was always going to move. Like, absolutely. Sure, sir. But now March of 24 is fucking stacked.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I mean, you've got the new Pixar movie in there. You've got the new Bong Joon Ho, Mickey 17 movie in there. You've got the new Ghostbusters sequel. There's a fuck ton of movies in the Mars now. So, yeah, there's a- So are they just banking on the strike being over by that date? Like, is this a set thing? Like, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:26:16 It seems like a set thing. Yeah, it seems like it's going to the right. From Hollywood. Yeah, I mean, yes. It seems more than likely It will probably You know, fingers crossed Be over by end of September, mid-October
Starting point is 00:26:30 But who the fuck knows, right? I think there's a lot of... We're all going to release our movies On this exact same day. Are you saying that... Are you saying there's a lot of theater involved? Yes. Yeah, Philip.
Starting point is 00:26:42 There's a lot of theater involved in a lot more than we think there is, I think. Well, that's the whole thing with the strike. It's like we just got the industry back with, you know, after COVID and now these fucking idiots are just doing the same shit and just, hey, we're just gonna, let's pull these movies and, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:58 But, I mean, we have a lot more product this fall than in the previous years, of course. Even last year, I mean, it was bullet train for two straight months and there was no big release forever. I mean, this year, we actually have titles every week, so yeah, it's not the end of the world. And the Marvels is fucking loving
Starting point is 00:27:14 it, though, because they get all the IMAX screens now because Dune was going to hold all those. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay. Yeah, but everybody's fucking and sick of Marvel, man. I'm not. I'm not. I think that. I am. I'm 100% sick Marvel.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I think the Marvels looks like their version of Shazam, Fury of the Gods. I think that's... Oh, no! Yep. I do not think that looks good at all. Those trailers are bad. Oh, no. We'll say... Until you bring me a movie with Wolverine in it, I kind of don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They're banking on that in May with the, yeah, Deadpool 3, so... Yeah. I think we're already for local season. That'll go watch. All right. One more movie delayed until December 13, 2024, which doesn't bother me, because I didn't even know this was a thing. A new Lord of the Rings movie, The War of Rohem, Rohir. The War of Nobody gives a shit about that either. I think it's an animated movie. Well, then definitely nobody gets shit.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And lastly, we'll finish off news with, have you guys checked out friedberry? I don't know what they are. I heard good things about it, actually. I'm not entirely sure what you just said. Fried Barry, it's on shuttered. Check it out. It's a wild movie. I've never even fucking heard of that.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It's pretty fun. The director, Ryan Kruger, is rebooting 1987's cult classic street trash. Ah, okay. And this is, I believe, in conjunction with bloody disgusting venegris syndrome and scream box. I don't have the part in it. I can see that. Ties in with James Lorenz is in street trash and he's in Frankenhooker later. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:29:08 No, get that. Everything ties together. All right, that's the news. Not much of it. Well, it is what it is. Chad, we're glad you're here, man. but are you ready to go hang out with us for a little bit at the trailer park?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Absolutely, absolutely. All right, well, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes they're very, very weird. What's the first new trailer to talk about tonight, Brian? The first one is more of a teaser, a very short teaser, which
Starting point is 00:29:41 I appreciate. I feel like trailers are way too long these days. New horror anthology, VHS-85. And this is, of course, going to be directed. I believe they kind of stacked the directors this time because we weren't so high on the last one. Okay. We got David Bruckner.
Starting point is 00:30:05 We got David Bruckner who did the new Hellraiser, the Nighthouse, and the ritual. Okay. Scott Derrickson, who did the Black Phone and Sinister. Okay. One of my industry crushes, Gigi Saw Guerrero. Oh, yes. The TV, the Purge TV series. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Natasha Kerman, who I don't know if you guys seen Lucky. It's kind of a slasher movie slash time loop slasher movie. Sounds interesting. Yeah, go check it out. It's pretty decent. Okay. And Mike P. Nelson, who did the, Lance, he did the wrong turn remake.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I like that movie a lot. I liked a lot more than I thought I was going to, so cool. All right. Not much to go off of the teaser, but what did you guys think, Chad? So I actually haven't seen anything past the second VHS. I stopped caring. There's been like four of them, haven't there? I mean, I know like Weingard and Simon Barrett were doing the first few and some of the, like, Benson
Starting point is 00:31:17 and Moorhead those guys, but yeah, I just haven't kept up. And I like horror anthology stuff. I haven't seen, like, the creep show series either. Like, I just need to, like, plow through these and that, like, for this Halloween season. I think that's on my docket. But, I mean, the trailer looks intriguing. I didn't realize that Scott Deerickson and all of them were in this either, because I feel like the last couple have not been that big name of directors, right?
Starting point is 00:31:37 But, yeah, I'm kind of struggling here to even tell you who was one of the directors. Yeah, I like giving a chance to up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. the directors, but it just the previous one before the last one was good. And then they kind of set a bar
Starting point is 00:31:56 with the, what was it, VHS 99? Mm-hmm. And then the last one was just, it felt kind of cheap. Cheaply made, like the production values down. Yeah, because it had like the Medusa storyline in it, right? Oh, the CGOM.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Oh, yeah. Which was a cool story. but yeah they could have used another couple of grand yeah I agree with you it's a cool story but then as soon as you see her you're just kind of like the fuck it's going on
Starting point is 00:32:27 yeah wow that was that turned the whole thing bad a lot of build up for nothing huh yeah yeah but then uh I like the I like the directors they have in here though like in uh uh what was that one
Starting point is 00:32:42 that uh shutter had that came out Dead, dead, Dead Space, Dead Space. That was great. Deadstream. So, yeah. They, those, they came from one of the VHS movies. Yeah, I think it was the last segment when they were, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 The guys went to hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it wasn't even a great segment, but, like, Deadstream was awesome. I liked it. Yeah. It's the one where the hands were reaching out and everything or. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Okay. I enjoyed that one. Yeah, it wasn't bad. It was kind of goofy. Not as, not as good as, Edstream, though. That's for sure. Well, it gives you an idea of their outlook on movies, right?
Starting point is 00:33:21 They had like a comedy horror kind of thing. Okay. Which is cool, you know? I mean, gives you some up-and-coming directors, so, yeah, hopefully it's the same thing. We all know Lance is going to hate to Scott Derrickson's segment because he thought the black phone was the biggest
Starting point is 00:33:37 piece of shit out there. Yeah. There's no movie, man. What was the other one? He said he did. The new, what was the other one, Derrickson did. Sinister. He's done Sinister.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It wasn't a huge fan. Yeah, I mean, Sinister's my favorite movie, but it's good. I mean, how much can he fuck up a 30-minute movie, right? Right. If that, probably 10-minute movie. I don't think he's fucked up anything. I'd see Black Fun made some money for Universal.
Starting point is 00:34:08 That's a Tom Savini mask, too. Ethan Hawker's kind of awesome of that. I mean, even though he wasn't. really in it a lot. Yeah, we said it, what, three minutes total or something? With the grabber, right? Yeah, he was a cool, bad guy. The grab, oh, I'm the grabber.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So, I'm the grab these nuts, motherfucker. All right. Let's see, VHS 85 comes out on shutter October 6. Okay. That could be one of our 31 days. Yeah, I was going to say that. The final trailer is another horror anthology called Satanic Hispanics.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Oh, my God. I'm watching it based just on the name. I love it. Fantastic game, yeah. All right. Idols. Okay. Forgive me for my pronunciations, but this is directed by Alejandro Brugas,
Starting point is 00:35:12 who did Wanted the Dead and the From Dust Hill Don TV series. Juan of the Dead. Yes. Juan of the Dead. Mike Mendez, who did a segment from Tales of Halloween and Big Ass Spider. You're not selling us, Brian. Oh, I'm buying in. Oh, you're in.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Damien Rupna, who did Terrified. I totally recommend Terrify. That's on Shutter. Okay. All right. Again, Gigi Saw Guerrero. is on this one also and Eduardo Sanchez
Starting point is 00:35:50 and people know Eduardo Sanchez from the Blair Witch project the original one. Oh, that guy. Yep. Chat, which thing? So I've seen this movie. Nice, nice. Yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:36:07 like any anthology. I think half of them are really good. Some of them aren't so great. But my favorite one involves a vampire. who he's out in the town, he's just fucking up people. And he gets a call from his familiar. And they're like, you know it's daylight savings time, right?
Starting point is 00:36:26 And he's like, wait, what? And so he's got to get back to, you know, his fucking coffin before daylight. And it's pretty funny. Right, that's a story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some pretty good ones here. The two of mine didn't care for,
Starting point is 00:36:42 but Ephra and Ramirez is like the, he's like tying them all together, essentially he's the one in between each story who's telling the tales of these. Is that Pedro from Napoleon, Benamar? Or is that the twin brother? I can never tell which one. Yeah, that's Pedro, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, so, yeah, I had a good time with it. Mostly. I mean, there's like, like I said, there's two of them that aren't great, but I would say overall, it's worth a watch for sure, especially for horror fans around this time. Yeah, there's like another one that it's involving a certain weapon that resembles a, like, giant wooden dildo. I'll just leave me back. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, there's a lot of comedy here.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I mean, it's not just a straight horror. There's a lot of comedy, which is, I like, I can appreciate the horror comedy. So, yeah, I had a good time with it for the most part. All right. Have you ever seen one of the dead? Have you ever seen one of the dead? No, I haven't, but I need to watch it. I didn't know it existed.
Starting point is 00:37:41 That's your homework tonight. Yeah, they came out a while ago, huh, Lance? I'll make my wife watch it. Eight or ten years. Yeah. Right? Eight or ten years. What'd you think, Lance?
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm not super pumped. But I mean, come on. I mean, again, how bad can it be? If you don't like one movie, just wait for the next one, right? Yeah. I mean, it's certainly like they really give you much out of the preview anyway. Which is good, which is good. So, yeah, I'm in, too.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Now, what's it going to be streaming on? It's in theaters. for like but September 15th I think it's like three days in theaters I don't know streaming and then on and then on streaming on September 18th right
Starting point is 00:38:26 that's got to be like limited release though huh it's not why it's it's about as wide as that fucking sloth their house movie that comes out tomorrow oh my god I'm watching it you are watching it yeah it looks like the dumbest fucking thing
Starting point is 00:38:42 I've ever seen it very it very much is the problem is it's PG-13. It's not R. Oh, really? That's a fucking issue. That changes things. All right. According to IMDB,
Starting point is 00:38:57 I think maybe this is a VOD release for Satanic Hispanics October 26. I think it's a wide release. But I swear, I can't remember. I think it's supposed to show up on shutter or screen box or something
Starting point is 00:39:14 like that. Okay, that sounds right. It'll be a good spot for it. Yeah. They got some good stuff, man. Shutter and Screenbox. We've been shutting them out for a while. Yeah, I didn't get a chance to watch it yet.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm probably going to tonight. They put the first episode of the Robocob documentary. Oh, what? Never even heard. Yeah, it was like a, like a, seems like a very detailed Robocop on the original movie that they, on Screenbox, they're breaking it up into episodes. Totally underrated movie. Robocom was awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, that's fucking great. I'd buy that for a dollar. They did. They did great on the Robert England doc. Yeah, it was good. All right. That's it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:01 All right. Trailers. On to listen to feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on I Like It Spooky. Welcome to the I Like It Spooky podcast. The Spooky Boys breathe this horror news, reviews, and entertainment show to life every other week with an informative, insightful, and often tongue-in-cheek approach that makes discussions relatable and engaging. Accomplishing what many shows strive for and making their audience feel like they are very much in the room and a part of the discussion while the red record light is on. I like it.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I like it. Yeah, yeah. Sort of what we strive for. man. And they have said thank you so much for the shoutout. Oh, awesome. Excellent. Well, check it out. I like spooky, man. We'll
Starting point is 00:40:53 send that shit on. Phil, before you go ahead, I found a couple of new things here. I kind of want to read. I thought were interesting. I posted that on October 3rd, Talk to me is coming to 4K
Starting point is 00:41:09 and Blu-ray. Oh, yeah. And American Werewolf on Twitter commented God this movie was awful what made it worse
Starting point is 00:41:19 was people was saying how great it was a convoluted teenage horror film fuck them can I finish sorry Brian
Starting point is 00:41:29 Chad doesn't even Chad do you know what movie we're talking about I just came back somebody's pissing all over talk to me right now
Starting point is 00:41:40 yeah really same way you pissed all over the black phones I mean I guess I can I guess I can I guess I can see where you wouldn't like it because of like a generational thing, but...
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, that's what he kind of goes into a convoluted teenage horror film with a bad ending and unlikable characters. Wow. I mean, I can... I've got a few questions. I mean, I have a few questions about that movie. I didn't love it. But the ending, yeah, the ending, I was like, mm-mm, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I did love it, but it was good. Overall, I liked it. I just, maybe it was because I expected it to be shitty, and it was, like, oh wow, this is actually pretty good. That might be what happened with me, too. Well, you get talk to me. It's already been greenlit, so. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Nice. The number two. They're not calling it that, Chad, are they? Oh, yeah. It's already been greenlight. The poster is just a two. The hand is a two. You haven't seen it, Lance? No. I mean, I'll see the movie, but
Starting point is 00:42:39 it's made it. That's easy. Well, for A-24, it's like 50 million. That's a That movie was probably like four million to make. That's, yeah. Right. It's big for them. True.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And I just seen an interview with them. They seem like some real fun guys. Yeah, the brothers. Yeah. Yeah, they were on the Corridor Crew YouTube channel, which they bring in stunt people and ask them about, you know, they watched like clips of movies and asked them. And, you know, they did their own YouTube videos where they did a lot of fight choreography and stunts. And they just seemed like really fun guys. that just love to make movies.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That's what it's all about. I just wanted to read that one. I was the first person I heard that really truly didn't like the movie. I know. Well, we respect your opinion too, man. Legion Podcast is choosing their three movies for being a Patreon patron.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Here we go. Here we go. Hey there, thanks for the reminder. For the three movies, you can cover Run Rabbit Run. Haven't seen it yet. Birdbox. Oh, Birdbox Barcelona. Well. For two recent films.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We kind of already did that one, but... I think we got a new pick-in after that. I'll have to check. But, yeah, I think... And... Boys in the Trees. That's a dark movie. I don't know what Boys in the Trees is.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Dark fucking movie. Yeah, it is. And a lesser-known little... bit older, a 2016 film that takes place in the 90s on Halloween. Oh, that's what that was Boys in the Trees. I gotcha. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I've never heard of that one. I'll check it out. Yeah, we're gonna have to switch out bird box. Yeah. I'm gonna try. I don't know if I'll talk about that movie again. No, Legion already gave us another choice. I'll just have to look up and find it and
Starting point is 00:44:44 you know, we'll schedule. I'll text it to you, Brian, so you can set it up whenever we have an opening. Yeah, get us your commentary movie too, because I pre-make these schedules a couple months out of time, ahead of time. I think I started Run Rabbit 1.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Is that the one with a chick from Oculus in it? No, still. Okay. Isn't it the chick from Succession? Yes. Ah, but she looks like the chick from Oculus. No, she doesn't. Is it in a Katie?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Okay. Starbuck, you're saying she looks like the chick from? Okay, okay. But I think it's one that I started in the middle of the night and I fell asleep on. I'll have to rewatch it. It looked pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Like very slow burn, horror. Spooky. I don't know, horror, but spooky. Ah, okay, we got our third pick from Legion, guys. It's a movie called Hunger from 2009. directed by Stephen Hintges, Hintkes, Chad, help us out. Is that the one where does a bunch of people are being captive and they're being starved to death? That sounds maybe like what I read, but pretty obscure, so that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Is Steve McQueen hunger with Michael Fasbender? No, not that one. Because that's 2008, I'm like, what are we? Yeah, not that one. My ass was about to say, now you're talking. Steve McQueen. All right. The director, Steve McCoyne.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's dead. Regarding our friends, the podcast that wouldn't die, the request for a movie suggestion, as Cameron Sullivan says, you guys definitely need to do a Serbian film. My top horror film is 40s. I've never seen it. I've never watched it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Did you say it was his favorite horror film of that year? Fuck that shit. Yeah. A real fucked up guy there. Yeah. We'll be in the first episode I will not be. I've seen the movie just so I could say I've seen it and I will never watch it again. See, it's on my, it's on my back burner list of maybe one day I'll watch this, but probably not.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Probably not. I've never seen a Serbian film. I've never seen. Uh Salo, the one we were forced to work for something we're doing next week. Oh no, I definitely haven't seen that. Oh, here's the cool of the week. Zisu, did I talk about that
Starting point is 00:47:26 yet? Yes, I love that movie. Fucking bad ass. It wasn't this week, but I don't, I feel like I haven't talked about it yet, so there it is. I knew it was going to click eventually. Did you say Sisu? Yeah, yeah. Zisu, yeah. Killing Nazis. all right
Starting point is 00:47:46 uh so i i i guess we're not going to do a servian film i it'll end up on the list eventually i promise i mean it's exactly what brian said if you want to check it off the list to say you've seen it sure but there's no fucking reason for you to see yeah you just don't you don't feel good after yeah i figured i figured that's what i keep hearing about it it's like one of those terrible but that sort of makes it sound like all the all the these people ran out of the film throwing up. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:18 You know what I mean? And so it makes me go, oh, I really want to see it. And then I watch it and I'm like, man, that wasn't shit. Oh, you guys are lucky I'm doing the one from Matt and Kate with Salo, because I'd say I never re-watch that again.
Starting point is 00:48:34 We'll talk about that. I don't want to give it to stuff like that. A lot of sodomy, apparently. All right. 120 days of Sata. Could you handle that, Philip? No, I could not, definitely. That would make me what to rip.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Okay. Not even if it was three awful people. Not even if it was Terry Cruz. Well. That would make it worse. Couldn't fucking walk. All right. You want shit right for a year.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah. Some motherfucker and white girls. Oh, okay. Regarding our friends in the podcast. Oh, we already did that. Regarding Fear of the Walking Dead. Stephen Loblad says, damn it, Lance, it suckered me back in.
Starting point is 00:49:30 But it didn't. Is Fear of the Walking Dead still going on? This is the final season. Still a TV show. Final season, man. I'm not, I'm out. You said that about the other shows, Lance. I did.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I did the first. episode of Negan and whatever the fuck it's called and I'm totally quitting tomorrow The Daryl show starting soon isn't it Which one? Isn't there the Daryl Dixon show starting soon? I might give that a shot I will know Dixon in France
Starting point is 00:50:00 And I might give them Rick and Mishone a shot Oh the one that's titled Rick and Michelle I would rather I would rather commit suicide Then watch those anything ever again I actually think they'd change that time. I actually think they changed that title because it was stupid i hope so it is very stupid it's just called rick and mishone is that really what it's called i think it was but i think they they changed it okay i was like that's got to be one of those like code names right it's not very coded but you know
Starting point is 00:50:30 something uh all right regarding the death of william freakin cameron sullivan says r i p I forgot to put that one on the list. Yeah. Sorry. He was a good. No. Shy Simone says that's so sad. I love his movie bug, too.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah, bug is amazing. Yeah, bug is underrated for sure. Yeah. Cameron responded, that is one super and undeservingly underrated. Fair enough. Cameron, you're off our shit list for now. for now. Regarding bait,
Starting point is 00:51:14 Jerry, I don't even know what bait is. We just watched it. Is that one that I watched? I don't think that was on that episode. Oh, I may have missed that one. The grocery store. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. All right. Jerry Everett says, I had the great pleasure of talking with the sweet Australian actress Sharnie Vincent. about a couple of her movies. When we spoke by phone,
Starting point is 00:51:41 she was plugged, she was plugging a different movie, but answered any question I asked. Cool. She was as down to earth as all the other beautiful women from Australia that I've interviewed. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Great, good humor, a groovy convo, and as she and I spoke in the joint international film about the smart janitor guy helping to save the ancient China was opening in China. Ben Affleck's
Starting point is 00:52:10 friend, I'm not sure what I'm saying. God, these seem like just words. Ben Affleck, what? All right. The Chinese language movie version of the few brief scenes with Sharnie playing a princess living...
Starting point is 00:52:28 What are they talking about, guys? Living as a scene. Am I being punked? living in I'm seeing luxury. In those first few days of opening, she was becoming a film idol for uncounted millions of low communists.
Starting point is 00:52:50 She is... What? She is best remembered for her starring role in the excellent, You're next. Okay. All right, now we're back to...
Starting point is 00:53:00 So I'm assuming everything else is true, too. I'm back to Homebase. We just have to do our homework. Okay. I fully expected she would, continue to grow as an actress and make a sequel to your next damn maybe one day yeah i i had a hard time following that maybe it was because i was reading it while i was saying it which probably made it worse for everybody else too but so i apologize but i didn't get it was that uh was that
Starting point is 00:53:25 adam green that who directed your next i can't remember it was one of those i don't i don't win i don't win i don't win i don't yeah there we go okay who directed the the janitor in china That was Ben Affleck, so I got out of that. That's what I was like, wait a minute, what? Ben Affleck and China? They've got him. Regarding Saw X, I wouldn't be surprised. Zim Vader, I'm so excited, don't fuck me, Saw.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Well, that's exactly what they do. That's the point. Is the Saw going to fuck them literally, or just the movie franchise? I hope so. I mean, isn't this like it's happening in between the first and second one, right? Yeah, it's a weird time jump thing. Who knows? With people that are 20 years older playing, like, they're younger.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah. Like, ow. Getting Tobin Bell back, yeah. Well, not, not even so much him, because, I mean, once you're old, it's an, all right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And he died.
Starting point is 00:54:34 He died in like the third one, didn't he? Right. And it's just been his fucking cliches, the rest of them. But like, the girl that's in it is, like, suddenly 50, and she was, like, in her 20s in the first one. It's like, oh. She has a Johnny's a guy. You're not.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah, she's the one that's stuck into the needle back. All right. I mean, it can't be worse than spiral that Chris Rock fucking Samuel L. Jackson won in May of 21. It could be careful what you say. Can it be that one? I didn't hate it. All right. Well, that was one of us.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I love it. Regarding little darlings, Marquetta Jones says, Love That movie. All right. Check out Nez's summer flicks series he's doing. We got some old school stuff coming up. All right. Meatballs Part 2.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Jerry Everett says, that's just cruel, man. What? I'm taking a huge. didn't like the movie. I guess not. The toxic Avenger, classic. Mike Batchelor says,
Starting point is 00:55:46 I don't got a good feeling about this film. It's not Melvin anymore. It is true. So is Dinklbot Dinklage? Is he actually playing the toxic Avenger? That's what I was wondering. Yeah, I know. That would be fantastic. Dude, I hope, I hope so much.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It's a tiny toxic Avenger. how hilarious Oh, I think so we did a commentary for this during COVID I think it was why Pete and I and Tiny Toxy gets brought up because of this movie I think that's where Tiny Toxic came up Yeah, we talked about it because we were like
Starting point is 00:56:26 Oh my God I still don't know two years later because I think we did that in 21 But I don't know Is this going to be I mean there's no way it can be as good as But they should just if they do that and then play it totally straight, but it's... All I know is... All I know is...
Starting point is 00:56:44 Makin Blair directed it. Uh-huh. Kevin Bacon's the villain. It can't be too bad. Kevin Bacon's the villain. Okay. Elijah Woods in it. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Elijah Woods in it? Listen, I have a... I fucking hate Elijah Wood, but... Really? That's his own story. That's his own story. That's a different story for a different time. They're saying it's supposed to be super violent and boring.
Starting point is 00:57:07 super violent and gory okay i mean i love making blair so yeah i mean that'll get me there so well i'm i'm intrigued i just it's it's tough tough bar to the jump even a fucking trauma movie it sounds like insanity little toxie intrigues me yeah yeah because i wonder if you're gonna play it to where he's transforming and you're thinking he's gonna transform into somebody bigger but he's still Peter Dingl's size. I hope they start up. But how terrifying would that be?
Starting point is 00:57:42 A little swamp creature running at you? Like, out of his arms and like, dude, I would run. I hope they start out with Yao Ming, and then he gets like toxic, toxic waste dumped on him and he comes out of a midget. Yow's knees will never hold up to that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Like, Even him on his knees is like a regular-sized person. True. All right. Chinese super soldiers. Regarding penitentiary to Al Ram's source says black exploitation deep dive. All right. Our man Al.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah. And let's welcome our new members, Zachary Akers and Gary Dondo. All right. That's it for listener feedback. Sorry, it took me a minute to get through it, but you know, it goes. Our show intro and our logos come from Steve Carlton from the Geeks. And be on the lookout for some more great stuff from him. Original skull artwork comes from Natsulani.
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Starting point is 00:59:19 They signed up for a buck a month. I'll take it, man. Any ideas, guys? Y-S, I don't know. It's not YOW, so I don't know. That would be YM. I guess we'll find out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I guess we'll find out. I'll be kind of upset if yow was only giving us a dollar. But Heather Powell, yes. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. And we appreciate that all that you've been through with us in your horror journey. That's awesome. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And on to our featured attractions. This week, we're going to go back to 1990 to cover Franken Hook. and the Night of the Living Dead, the 1990 remake, which this is the first time watch for me, I think. What? Okay. Yeah, I think so. I've seen it a few times.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. Anyway, definitely a first time watch for Frankenhoker. Same here. Chad, you know that because I told you that. You did? You spoiled. You spoiled it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Which we're going to start with. was horrified by the motion picture of Frankenstein. In 1935, horror turned to terror with the bride of Frankenstein. In 1990, the makers of basket case and grained them. Bring you. What a day? A medical student said trauma movie, so there's that. But wasn't he a medical student?
Starting point is 01:01:00 I mean... I don't know. Yeah, it didn't really say that. Okay, so according to the synopsis, a medical student. A medical student at heart. Yeah. Sets out to recreate his decapitated fiancé by building her a new body made of Manhattan Street prostitutes. As you would.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Why not? Looking for a good time, honey? What a date? Yeah. You guys want a date? Oh, boy. Director is Frank Hennon Lutter, also known for Basketcase and Brain Danes. which sounds about right writers are Frank Henan Latter and Robert Martin this film
Starting point is 01:01:48 cost 1.5 million dollars making it Henan Latter's most expensive at the time but there were still budgetary issues the producer told him that they had used up all the allotted funds for the pyrotechnics during the exploding hooker scene that was a scene to which he replied how the fuck am I going to film the lab scene and he ended up calling it a favor to do some unlicensed pyrotechnics for the shoots
Starting point is 01:02:18 a favor Lorenz recalls the guys finishing the setup and telling him don't worry it may be safe quote yeah because I think the original
Starting point is 01:02:34 shot they got it just looked like sparkers sparklers going off and they were like no this is not going to work for the movie and this was Hennon Lodder's first sag film meaning he was using actors who were members of the guild
Starting point is 01:02:55 but he ran into some troubles as the girls in the guild were sending the girls that the guild were sending were not inclined to do nudity or you didn't want them to do nudity, he adds. So he went to Billy's topless bar looking
Starting point is 01:03:12 for girls instead, which makes sense, because that's what it looked like happened in this movie. Shout out to Billy's. Yeah, Billy's Topless Bar. And a short while later, he had several strippers signed on. Each of them hired for specific degrees of
Starting point is 01:03:28 nudities, including C-section scars and stretch marks. That was awesome. I'll be darned. Don't. Did you all make it other for Lollapalooza, Chad. There you go. There you go, Billy's Topless Bar. It's classic.
Starting point is 01:03:44 SAG ended up making each of them members. Oh, Honorary Stripper members of SAG because they were in this movie. Don't say that Troma never did nothing for nobody. Hey, that's respect right there.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Frankenhooker. Chad, what did you think about this one. I fucking love Franken Hooker. Okay, that's the sole reason I decided to do this. Lance gave me the list. I was like, yep, I'm doing that one. Frank Kenan Lutter is my fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah. This movie is just fucking ridiculous. It's literally is schlocky. That's what he does. He literally does not take himself serious. He knows what the fuck movie he's making. He refers to himself as an exploitation director, not a horror director. So he's like, I'm just making this shit. Yeah, it's fun as shit.
Starting point is 01:04:34 The dialogue is fucking ridiculous. he knows it's ridiculous. I mean, literally from the second this movie starts, you know it's not really. He's like fucking waving his finger in front of a brain with an eye.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Like, it's just fucking ridiculous. And I think trauma picked this up after, right? So it wasn't originally a trauma movie. Lloyd Kaufman, I think, picked it up after. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:52 I mean, there's just so much good shit here. I mean, like that that fucking hooker scene that you're saying, the exploding hooker scene is just fucking incredible. It's like,
Starting point is 01:05:01 there's so many nuanced comedy shit in the background that you're not even realizing, like he's talking and he's like don't listen to that devil music you don't know what it's saying to you and then in the background you just hear little hints of it's like safe sex is for wimps
Starting point is 01:05:16 anyone it says like anyone can drive sober always carry a gun never say no like but this is like failing the background you hear that all the lookers are just fucking smoking the the deadly crack the super crack
Starting point is 01:05:32 even that scene the the fucking the attach the leg to the camera. It's like this fucking shot just going straight at the lamp. Like there's so much just ridiculous good shit in this movie. I always have a good time with Frank An Ladder mostly.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I think brain damage is my favorite of his movies. 88, a couple years before this, but I fucking love me some Henan Latter. What do you guys? What did you think? First time watches, right? Yeah. I've seen this a few times. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Have you? let's let's go to Lance oh my god dude this was this was a blast I fucking loved it yeah nothing yeah well okay I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 01:06:16 for me what carried this movie was the main actor and just the bullshit that he would say like oh what are you doing there that doesn't look right yeah it's like almost like a young Christopher Walkin type like that with some of his mannerisms
Starting point is 01:06:30 and stuff but he played it pretty straight though I played it super straight, which was awesome. And that lawnmower scene at the beginning of the movie cannot be forgotten. And then you get like the black blood. Or at least some copy on the soap's black. Yeah, on the garden gnome. And then from there, yeah, it's like, why is this guy experimenting with like a weird brain?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Was she wearing a bat suit at the beginning? Oh, yeah, yeah. But she looks good though. like she's like open waist big old ass and you're like she's like stop eating those pretzels it's not good for you. Oh she did love her pretzels.
Starting point is 01:07:11 She was totally wearing a fat suit and I don't understand what they had to do with anything. I think in 1990 they're like this is not the ideal female image but I guess so maybe he was trying to make her more into the ideal female
Starting point is 01:07:25 well which makes sense with the ending I guess so yeah that makes sense. Right. It just it was weird. Well it was cheesy the way that one she... It's better than a Kardashian. When he got the body parts together and made the
Starting point is 01:07:39 the Frankenstein creature, why was the face like white and all the rest of it was like regular flesh-colored body parts? Was it because she's been in storage longer? Yeah, probably. She'd been dead a few more, a little bit longer. She's Irish, and the rest was a melting pot. Ah. It's what America's about, Lance.
Starting point is 01:08:00 That makes sense. Okay, yeah. No, I, yeah, this, this, there was a lot to love about this movie, man. It, it was great. The one of the liners were fantastic. This is one of those I could see myself watching over and over again. And it wasn't terribly long, right? Like maybe 84 minutes, hour and a half, less than hour and a half.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Which is perfect timing for this movie. All the side characters were good. Definitely not politically correct. Like where he said, uh, the hookers and then the Chinese girl. And then, you know, I noticed he said that. And he's like, in the black one. And, you know, so yeah, I liked it. I like that melting pot concept because that body was definitely a healthy.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Why is that even offensive? If it's a Chinese girl, is it not a Chinese girl? Well, I think it's supposed to say Asian now because she might be Filipino. She might be Korean. She might be Japanese. She might be Chinese. Could very well be. So I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm glad, I'm glad, Brian, that you picked this one. Very glad. So what do you think, Brian? Where's your opinion falling? Love it. Hooker. Love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I figured. Exploding hookers. Super crack. Yeah. Super crack. I love when he puts her back together, like she only speaks in Hooker. Oh, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:19 You can only say what they've said earlier. Yeah. We got to bring up, we got to bring up Zorro the pimp. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And, of course. Steroid. Who doesn't drill into their own head to calm down?
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, that was a little weird. He had to figure out, you know, he was already mad, but he was like, I'm going to fucking, he had to justify why he was going to kill all these hookers and stuff. So as I envision it, he had been working on the human body and figuring out what parts of the brain did what. And so maybe he knew what part of the brain to drill into to be like, I need to get rid of this feeling. how do I do that? I drill into this specific part right here. Except that every time he put the drill up to his head,
Starting point is 01:10:09 he drilled into a different spot. So I guess... We don't need logic here, okay? Yeah. I was following something, though. Maybe this guy was really smart. And another thing, I think they did an excellent job is the movie felt sleazy
Starting point is 01:10:26 because it needed to be like the setting. Just each scene, there was... Zorro the pimp, yeah. We just mentioned them as you got up, yeah. Yeah, the setting, the downtown setting, the graffiti everywhere, just everything just fit well with this movie. And, of course, my favorite scene is the hook is exploding. And I love, I know they had to use mannequins because they couldn't,
Starting point is 01:10:54 there was something about, they had to use mannequins because if they didn't, they would have got like an NC-17 or X rating or something. Well, that, you know, when you explode real hookers, sometimes it becomes a problem. So I love that scene. It may be very bad things, huh? Yeah. I wasn't with a hook on her night. I'm just glad, Brian, that this movie was made before they had CGI fire available.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah. You know? That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's like all of, all of those models or strippers or whatever they were. because we said he went to the strip club. Oh, they were totally strippers. They had to pose in that particular scene, or like how they were dying or whatever, right? So there's like,
Starting point is 01:11:39 there's like holding herself. Like the Asian girl, like does her like head roll and then it fucking explodes. Yeah, it's pretty fucking good. Is this the movie that has the most boobies in it that you've covered on the horror turns? I feel like it might be, right? There's a lot of movies.
Starting point is 01:11:55 With his, with his whole scene where he's inspecting the bodies, right right yeah boobbies could be this might he's just measuring it's like one this reminds me the St. Louis Arch he's like fucking God that's right that was they should have had a whole montage of him
Starting point is 01:12:12 just like flipping nipples that would have been great well he's got the fucking magnifying glass he's like awesome he didn't the magnifying glass on the nipples nice buoyancy but yeah I love majority of his movies before before I watched this
Starting point is 01:12:28 I went into the the basket case trilogy and brain damage and you definitely know a frank hit a lot of movie when you see it so yeah super fun well and that makes totally sense i actually had a way better time with this movie than i thought i was going to it said frank and hooker and it popped up and it said trauma and i'd never seen this movie before and i was like oh fuck here we go and uh and i sat down and i walked out and i watched watched it and man, I had a really good time. And I could tell. Most of it, because I was making fun of it
Starting point is 01:13:06 and I was laughing, which is what a good exploitation film does. But yeah, the hooker exploding scene was hilarious. And you could tell. I was like, these are not actresses. These he got from the
Starting point is 01:13:22 fucking local strip club. I guarantee you. And I hadn't even read the trivia. you. So totally made sense. And like there was the one girl that was in there that was dancing the whole time. She came in like twice and she was just sort of a background dancer and like she had stretch marks all over her stomach. She was probably 50 something years old. She had like a C-section scar. Oh, come on. I was like that is a real stripper. That's not just an actress.
Starting point is 01:13:59 She chose it as a lifelong career, it sounds like. Well, hey, why don't you get so far? What are you going to do? You have to wait till 65 to get full benefits. Yeah. I think the biggest detriment of the movie is the fact that Frank and Hooker's only in the last like half hour of it, right? She's only in like 25.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. But I was okay with that. Yeah, I mean, it's fun though. Yeah. I love the fucking Jersey accent. You're looking for a good time? Oh, man. Man.
Starting point is 01:14:29 She was hilarious, man. Yeah, so now, Lance, now, Frightmare, there was so many fucking cosplayers of this. Now you'll get it. You'll get the reference. Now I'll get it. Now I'll get it. Was there? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:42 This is one of the more popular cosplays for females, I feel like. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got to all go next year no matter what. And one thing, Chad, we're going to do. I don't know if it's going to be, I think we're going to try to wait until they open that permanent Universal Park, but we're definitely
Starting point is 01:15:00 going to try to get together for a Vegas THR get together. So not sure how easy it is for you to get there, but I mean, you can fly to Vegas cheap from anywhere, right? I'm usually in Vegas twice a year for work, so might fall out that time. Let's plan it around.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Let's plan it around when you're there. So you have no excuse. There you go. There you go. All right. All right. So let's do scores on Frankenhooker. What do you think? One to ten?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Listen, I mean, you're not, you're not rating. You're not rating. You're not rating Frank. Let me tell you something. Here's the deal. If you're not dating Franken Hooker on a Oscar. That's Chris Farley.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Right. I have just a great time of this movie. I always have. I'm a big Frank Kennelotter guy. This gets no worse than a seven on ten for me. I'm sorry. Nice. That's going.
Starting point is 01:15:57 It's fun as fuck. You know what you're getting into. And yeah, it's ridiculous. 84 minutes. It's fun as fuck. So that's where I'm at. What about you guys? God damn.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I'm trying not to... All right. Lance, you go. You know my rule, right? If it's eight on 10 or higher, it's guaranteed to be on my top 10 list for that year. So it made the top 10 list, guys, eight on 10. I loved it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:16:22 This is from 1990. This came out in the same year as Blair Witch. Look, the dialogue. Blair was 99, God damn. Bear would be like 99. The dialogue alone, just from the one actor, I got to give this a gold star, man. This was a great movie.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Loved it. Loved everything about it. I had eight, but I went seven just because I felt weird giving Frank and Hooker an eight, but I'm giving it an eight, brother. I like it. I can respect that. I can respect that. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Right. I don't feel weird at all. I'll give it an 8.5. Nah, 8.5. Yeah. Fuck, yeah. This is, uh, this is, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:17:04 For the magnified titties. I think this is one of the better films. I do love the original basket case. I have a soft spot for the second basket case. The third one is kind of a step down from the first two. Yeah, that's not great. Brain damage is awesome. I fucking love brain damage so much.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah. I need a fucking, like, uh, the elmer, the fucking, uh, the thing that comes out of his head and brain damage i need a fucking like statue of that you guys are going to make me watch some more of his movies because uh i had a pretty good time with this one man like i'm like all right i can't let these people influence my score because this movie was fucking stupid right right but it was awesome i had a lot of fun with it i think i'm gonna go seven also nice okay yeah and and i am definitely willing to check out some of his other movies because I've never seen.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Okay. Brain damage. Put that on the list. Not up there with our Spiderverse Collective score, but close, right? Oh, yeah. How was that? I haven't listened to that.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Well, we haven't done the new one, but we did the original. And I think Desmond was on with us. And would we end up with like a nine average or something? I think everybody gave it tens. I think it was all. I didn't give it a 10. I've only given it. pretty sure you did.
Starting point is 01:18:29 All right. No. Fuck it. I'll change mine back to an eight. Okay. So Lance are we... Yeah, Brian, eight and a half. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I haven't written down here. Eight. You can see. Hold on. Eight. Eight out of ten. You got notes. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:18:43 That doesn't have a couple times. Very nice. I've written an entire speeches for movies. Most of the time, I just wing it. Yeah. All right. Nine of the Living Dead. Nineteen 90.
Starting point is 01:19:01 They came to pay their respects. They're coming to get you, Barbara. Why do you have to be so cruel? What? Show some respect. Now, they're running for their lives. A biologist in Stockton, California, have released reports, focusing on the phenomenon, specifically on that trance-like state.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Every shelter is becoming a trap. Are you sure we're going to be all right? Road out. Don't stop no matter what happens. is just another dead end. I really think this is a first time watch for me. Although watching that first scene, maybe it's just because it's so much like the original.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I know. It's like a shot for shot remake. So I don't know. Like I watched it feeling like I had seen it before, but I'm really sure that I haven't. Anyway. All right. So let's go with the trivia and stuff for this one.
Starting point is 01:20:02 1990. When the Unburied Dead Return to Life, and see human victims, seven refugees, yeah, you know what might have the lady and that is. Director is Tim Savini, also known for segments. Tom Savini. Tom Savini, my bad, Tom Savini.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Also known for segments of Tales from the Dark Side and the Theater Bazaar, as well as his extensive makeup work throughout the years, and of course playing the role of sex machine. Oh, yes. From the still dawn, eh? I don't know. White.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Whatever. Writers are John A. Rousseau and George A. Romero, of course. Okay, now is that one of the Russo brothers from Captain America and Avengers movies? I'm guessing not. I'm guessing not. Nah, I'm not the guy that knows that shit. All right. At one point in the film, a female zombie can be seen walking.
Starting point is 01:21:05 through a field with the house in the background. A zombie hears the banging from the humans in the house trying to board up the windows and is attracted to the noise. So she turns and begins staggering to the house. This woman actually owned the house in real life. And the producers wanted to use the house in the film and agreed to give the woman a small acting part in exchange. that seems like the most worthless piece of trivia I've ever heard the Mercedes driven by Johnny at the beginning of the film this is stacking up to do the same thing was owned by Tom Savini
Starting point is 01:21:49 hey all right all right nice according to the director it was the first car he bought after meeting with this success and it broke his heart to wreck it during filming Why did you do it? Suffering for his art. Because they paid him for it. I think there was a lot of budgetary problems, so they were kind of improvising. Okay. Oh, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Kind of like the killer clowns where the car just fell into the tree. Yeah. They're like, well, what do we do with it? I think if I remember correctly, there was a lot of just trying to make things work. Gotcha. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I'm curious to hear about this one. Chad, what do you think? So I am a absolute diehard fan of the original trilogy, Night, Dawn, and Day. Land. I'll leave the new ones, whatever, but I love Savini as well. My problem with this movie has always been that it's just like, it's almost verbatim a shot-for-shot remake a little bit. obviously change up Barbara for the better I think. Yeah. Okay. But I don't know what this movie does better
Starting point is 01:23:04 than what the original did. That's kind of my issue with it. And it's like if you're going to get as much obnoxious screaming. That is true. That is true. It's just, I mean, I love the original so much and I love how bleak the ending for the original is. So that's
Starting point is 01:23:20 a big issue for me in this movie. Like I said, Barbara is literally completely useless in the first one. She's her brother's gone and then she's just laying on a couch like the entire time. I don't not like this movie. It's just kind of like it just exists. I honestly rewatching it, it's been years since I'd watched it. So rewatching it for the podcast, but it's like I just don't think I, I think the zombie effects are fine,
Starting point is 01:23:49 but it's like Savini's like the god of effects, right? And he's not doing the effects here. He's just directing it. And there's nothing about the direction that stands out for this movie. I don't know. I just think this movie is fine. I don't not like it, but I think it's just fine. It's not bad by any means.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's just, it's not better than the original. And so if I'm going to watch one of these, I'm going to always watch the original. That's kind of where I land. I don't know. What about you guys? Where do you fall with this? Hmm.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Good points. Brian, you want to go? I have a soft spot for this movie because this was always on TV, like TVS or TV. it to you one of those channels. It was always on. So I kind of watched this one more than the original one. It's not as classic as the original one, but it does do certain things. Chad, you brought
Starting point is 01:24:40 out Barbara. Is a way better character in this one. I like her art. You know, when she kind of starts out the same way as the original one, but when she gets to the house and gets her shit together, you know, she realizes, you know, I got to survive. So I kind of like art. She does pull it together pretty quick, huh?
Starting point is 01:25:01 Of course, Tony Todd. I like Tony Todd in the movie. You know, he's a badass. I think Tom Toll's as Cooper. He gave you somebody to hate, definitely. Sure. Played the character. And Judy Rose is probably the most irritating character.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I'm not advocating violence or anything, but I just want to someone to just give her a slap. Yeah. If you're going to be mad at somebody. Oh, my God. Be mad at the one of the one. Tommy! Tommy! There was a snap in the original movies, so.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Well, there needed to be slapping this one. I was trying to think, Tolls is the fucking, the best friend in Henry Portrait of a serial killer, right? Otis. Yeah, okay, yeah. I was like trying to pit that together. You did a lot of Rob Zombie stuff later. Yeah, I don't fucking look at that. And this movie probably
Starting point is 01:25:57 has the most single stupid person moment ever. Oh no. Tommy shoots the gas. Oh, wow. Yeah. That was not smart from the gas. I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:11 I mean, if you're being chased by zombies at that point, I mean, is that really going to explode a gas pump? No. I don't know. Let's not use the word chase. I don't think they were being chased.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I did it. These were slow as fuck zombies. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I did fueling in the Army, dude. You can smoke a cigarette and put it out in gasoline. And as far as Tony Todd was from the truck, because you remember that he fell out the truck while they were going there.
Starting point is 01:26:39 As far as he was away, he could still see maybe we shouldn't shoot the gas tank. He's like, well, how are you doing? Yeah, you know, he screams as he's shooting. Yeah. It's like. But I. He's ass about there. It's because he's like.
Starting point is 01:26:57 But it kind of had a satisfying ending because I like the scene of the zombies eating the cooked remains of Judy Rose and Tommy. Okay. No, no those. But, yeah, it's pretty much a shot-for-shot remake. There's nothing really new added other than the different character arc for Barbara. But I still appreciate what he tried to do. I know there was, like I said, budgetary problems, I think dealing with the studio. they wasn't getting the right funding or money for the movie.
Starting point is 01:27:30 So there was a lot more elaborate kills and stuff he wanted to do, but it just wasn't in the budget. But I'll always have just because I was 10 years old when I've seen this movie. So this was introduced to be young. So I always kind of hold it there. Satisfying ending, though. She gets to shoot the douchebag in the head. We'll get into that.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Lance, what do you think? Man, I'm with Chad. I absolutely fucking adore the original Black and White Romero, Night of the Living Dead. I think it was one of the greatest horror films of its time. And it definitely stood up. I can watch it over and over and over and over again. It's got great scenes like the little girl with the, you know, with the trowel.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Yep. Yeah. And they kind of just barely alluded to that in this one, right? They just had it on the wall and blood spattered on it or whatever. But I would kind of consider this the 10-man version of Night of the Living Dead. In other words, if I only had a heart. Pretty bad, guys. Pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Just listless acting to me. Really, really bad special effects. Tom, you can do better. And I know, I'm sure Savini wasn't doing it. all of the effects in the movie. He didn't do any of them. Well, for fuck's sake. For fuck's sake,
Starting point is 01:29:00 he should have started pushing some people out of the way and saying, God damn it, a little white fucking clown makeup on their face, and that's it. Fuck you. Let's make it look like zombies. This movie was pretty atrocious to me. I didn't like it at all. I think
Starting point is 01:29:15 white clown makeup. Well, I think what, like Brian was saying, is like, if you listen to Savini talk about this movie, he says 40% of what he won it in this movie made it in. And he, I'm surprised it was that much. He said his documentary in the documentary,
Starting point is 01:29:30 he's like, this was the biggest nightmare of my life. Like, it was just like, he was fighting with producers every time Romero was offset. I need to go watch the documentary because I might actually enjoy that unlike this absolute piece of trash. Oh, wow. That's it for me.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Tony Todd's great, but he can't save a turd. It's wild to think this is his first. just because he came so big with Candyman like two years later right if he had pulled out a hook and started hooking all the I would have been all in but that didn't happen
Starting point is 01:30:05 so anyway it is what it is not everybody loves every movie he had an awesome little when he was sprinting and he was like backhanded zombie who backed this yeah it was like judo chop yeah it was like
Starting point is 01:30:23 sound effects too. I know. That's what the Walking Dead became, right? Like you have 27 zombies all around you and not one of them bites you somehow. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. Philip loved it.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I'm not sure what... No, I'm in the middle. I'm not sure what to think about this movie. I was kind of hoping you guys would point me in a direction. Because I love Tom Savini. Like, I really do. I legitimately respect that guy here. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And had he done more of the special effects for this? Or had they done more than just kind of a shot-for-shot remake? I know. I know. You know what I mean? And I hated that fucking twist ending. That took all the punch out of the original movie. Because it had so much to say about racism.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And it had so much to say about the 60s. And it had so much to say about what we were going through. And they just totally fucking took that out. I don't know I mean I know I don't hate the ending I just like I feel like I hate the ending a lot of the action sequences a lot of the action sequences where they're like there's zombies coming after you and you're like oh no huh like a bad six flags honing house yeah like let's let's Let's make it a little more realistic and less 1930s theater, you know? Plan 9 from outer space.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Yeah, like, you didn't have to go really shot for shot. But in color, Tony Todd, a better lead actress. I disagree. but okay. Oh, she was not as obnoxious. I disagree. Well, how is the original one better? But we needed Barbara in the original movie
Starting point is 01:32:35 because she represented the chaos that we would have all felt because no one would have known what to do. I think that's the difference. And so she screams the whole time? Well, I think that's the difference between the two movies. Dwayne is the central
Starting point is 01:32:49 of the original movie, the African-American. guy and she's not the main character. This they of course flip it to where Barbara is the main character. So I mean, I can see that. And Ben, I guess that's Ben is Tony Todd's character, right? He's a, he's not the main character in this movie, right? He's a side character because she turns into fucking Ellen Ripley essentially and it becomes
Starting point is 01:33:09 a badass and she's like, yeah, everyone up. So, yeah, I mean, they're not the same main characters. But I think that, yeah, the ending is what is the biggest detriment of this movie for me because the original 68 is, it's so fucking powerful. like you were saying lands i mean it's just fucking it's brutal it's bleak as fuck i'm a demented as fuck person i fucking love bleak endings i'm like yes i fucking love that and this is like so happy and i'm like all right whatever i like they're just fucking i kind of appreciate them not redoing the ending exactly because yeah sure sure you've already seen it so the the punch wouldn't have been is
Starting point is 01:33:43 impactful okay and she already does the metaphor of we are them they are us And then she still shoots that motherfucker in the face. He had it coming, though. At the end of... Oh, he totally had it coming. All right. And so it was just maybe the degradation of humanity. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:07 No. Yeah, I don't hate this movie by any means. It's just not the same level as the original to me. Yeah. I've always fallen with it. And I... Fair way to put it. Fair way to put it.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Like, they should have done something different to separate themselves. but like I legitimately don't think that I've ever seen this movie before but I thought that I had just from watching it because I've seen the original. They're coming to get you, Barbara. That looks like the same fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:34:39 I loved his portrayal of Johnny. Yeah, mostly's great. Yeah, he's always good. I was like, I've seen this scene before. Are they, is this like a, like legit remake what are we doing here you need to see the porn parody philip and you'll really appreciate it that's when they get the uh actresses from this from the strip club down the street that's billy bob's trip club they've already got scars oh we got to do stuff oh yeah yi oh
Starting point is 01:35:22 I feel like for like being Savini's directorial debut and he never really did much after this right he did a couple of like tales from the dark side episodes but yeah there's nothing about his directing that stands out about this movie at all you'd be like that dude right that was fucking Savini's direction he fucking killed it like no there's nothing
Starting point is 01:35:42 I agree yeah I would have never known that what has he directed that's about it that's what I'm saying he hasn't done much this was he was kind of one and done He's done, it was like a movie during the 90s or something. But I had hurt the reason they made this movie, though, was because when Romero had, you know, made this, the company, the distribution company didn't put the copyright trademark on it. And so for all of the 70s and 80s, people were just making it in color and just fucking with it and doing whatever they wanted with it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:12 So then Romero ended up finally getting the rights back to it. So he was like, I actually want to make money on this property that has been a fucking money, fucking making all the money for the last 20 years. that's why they did, and then it just didn't go over very well. So, yeah, kind of a, you know, it is what it is. But, yeah, I don't, I know, I don't not like this movie, but I would always watch the original over this. I mean, it's better, it's better than the amusement park, okay? I'll give you that. That is 100% sure.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That movie was garbage. Like, I know a lot of people loved it. It's because they're fucking stupid. That movie sucks. How do you feel about, I do you feel about, I don't know. You feel about Martin. Anybody watch Martin? I love Martin.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Martin's great. Not knowing if he really was a vampire or not. That was really cool. Oh, that one. Wariler. I forgot about that movie. I didn't say if he was or he wasn't. I need to watch that one again.
Starting point is 01:37:08 That was actually pretty good. I remember. Romero's a good director. I love the fucking Stephen King Dark Half adaptation that he did. It was almost just like the book when he changed the new characters. and really well done.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I'm a big Romero fan. I'm a big one of the few books I've actually read. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think Romero is an amazing director. As far as like screenwriter, I don't know if he was ever on the level of like, because some of Romero's dialogue's not great.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Carpenter's dialogue is just fucking impeccable. So like, you're comparing the two, it's always going to be carpenter for me. But I fucking absolutely love Romero. Oh, yeah, I mean, that trilogy can't be touched for me. I fucking absolutely. Agreed. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:37:48 And Tom Savini is. a special effects god. Yeah, he's a badass. Maybe not the best director. So. Maybe they should give him another chance for another movie. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:04 He's too grumpy for that now. He's too grumpy. Yeah, yeah. This is his commission. And rich. Chad scores, not a living dead.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I'm going to give this the softest of six on tens. Okay. Because I mean, above the high watermark. That's good. I think it's a watchable movie.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I don't think this is an atrocious movie by any means. Like, if you've never seen the original, then maybe you will like this a lot. I don't know. Because I feel like, you know, this generation's like black and white movie.
Starting point is 01:38:39 I'll never fucking watch that. Like, it's too fucking obscure for them at this point. It's fine. It really is. It's an updated version of the exact same thing. Have they never heard of the lighthouse for fuck's sake? Come on.
Starting point is 01:38:52 A lot of people have it. All right. So, yeah, I'm giving this soft six. I think it's passable. It's watchable. It's just not on the level of original. And that's kind of where I fall. I will, I don't know if I'm going to revisit this in a long time.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I probably will watch it eventually again, but I'm not taking it out again. So, yeah, it's remind. Okay, cool. Young Tony Todd, fun to watch. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I think six is fair. they work with what they had to work with. You know, we talked about the budgetary restraints they had.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah. And essentially, they just did the same thing as the original one with a few tweaks here and there, which I, like I said, I like the change in Barbara's character. I like Tony Todd. I love seeing Bill Mosley in there. I think he did a spot on role as Johnny because, like Phil said, he felt like he was watching the same. same scene as the original one. Oh, yeah. And, yeah, but it definitely doesn't hold a candle to the original one, but I think six is fair.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I think if he was able to think, Chad, you said, 40% of what he wanted went into the film, if he got that full 100% in the studio back in, and I think this movie could have been incredible. Yeah, definitely. It could have been very gruesome. Oh, wouldn't that have been great. Right? A lot more blood? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:23 What do you think? What is it last? Two out of ten? No, I'm thinking that I want to see that version that he gets to pick 100% of what goes in it. So this one's a two on ten. You are correct, mine. You're calling me. This is pretty much gone.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Two on ten. Tom Savini, why are you even making movies? No, I love Tom Savini. I absolutely love him. Great guy. But yeah, they must have, studio must have just fucked him hard on this because this is, this is, this is garbage. Tony Todd is, is one of my favorite actors of all time. Candyman is literally one of my top five iconic horror villains of all time. This is shit. This movie's fucking shit. This is absolutely horrible, man. This is a very, very bad recreation.
Starting point is 01:41:19 This is like if you get the junior high school drama club to make Night of the Living Dead with cardboard cutouts. Bad. Bad. That's how you ended up with the 60s one. But it had heart to it. It's not that bad way. This is hollow.
Starting point is 01:41:36 This is hollow. It's passable. It's passable. All right. All right. I actually gave the original Night of the Living Dead shit when we reviewed it. I said that it did not hold up. Yeah, I did. I said that it did not hold up.
Starting point is 01:41:54 And mostly it was because of the screaming women, I just couldn't take it. And then you got Judy Rose. Well, yeah. But she wasn't like an integral part of this movie. Sure. I'm not going to say that it's... I know.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I was like, can somebody please kill her? I'm not going to say that it's better than the original because it obviously wasn't because it was just a straight up remake, remake, remake. Uh-oh. But I will, I think six and a half out of ten. You didn't give the first one that highest score and you said this one's better?
Starting point is 01:42:37 No, I don't think I gave it that shit even score. My low scores are like six, man. I think what Phil's saying is whatever he had, whatever review he had gave the original one, it's probably different now. Yes. I can see that, sure. And if I had to go back and review the original again,
Starting point is 01:42:59 I would probably give it a different score. I was just sort of trying to give it a, a score in my eyes of right now, you know what I mean? And plus that was, that was when we first started. We didn't know what we were doing. Yeah, very early on. Like we know what we are doing now, but...
Starting point is 01:43:19 This is not the greatest movie in the world. This is just a tribute. You know what I mean? It's a very jack-lacious. Good way to put it. So look, Chad C, thanks for coming on, dude. Tell everybody where we can find you again,
Starting point is 01:43:39 because movie homework, I've listened to about three episodes so far and I'm loving what I'm hearing so now that I know where it is let everybody else know. We've done about 15 so I'm glad you've listened to three of the 15. I've got you're getting to listen to you lazy
Starting point is 01:43:56 son of a bitch. I started with mid-Somar if that tells anything so there. So very recent. Very late in the game, yes. We started yeah, we started back in January. We did whiplash. We've done big trouble in little China.
Starting point is 01:44:09 We've done a lot of horror. We're going to be coming or more horrors. as the Halloween season comes upon us. The next movie we're doing is Glory. Actually, this week. It'll be out by Friday because we're coinciding with Denzel, releasing the Equalizer 3. Each week, we're tying it into an actor, director,
Starting point is 01:44:27 something that comes out with the movie, kind of like you guys do a little bit. So then a few weeks we'll do a Kenneth Brana movie or a Nicholas Cage movie to tie in. We'll see. But yeah, it's been fun. You can take it. I was wrong.
Starting point is 01:44:37 It's binge movie homework on any of the podcast. apps that you get. Yeah, you can download that. Instagram, chat underscore Chris, Twitter, the same fucking thing. All the same thing. Go follow binge media. Binge Media.comedia.com, Twitter, Instagram, all the same. Yeah, that's where I'm on. So you guys recently did Bram Stokers Dracula. We did. We did.
Starting point is 01:45:00 That one I listened to. That one I listened to. I also don't love Bram Stoker's Dracula, but listen to that podcast. You don't love Keanu? No way. He's lovely. He's lovely. He's love. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us, Thehorrorreturns.com or send us an email at thehorrorreturns.gmail.com. Become a, or consider becoming a Patreon patron. We'll let you pick out, as Philip said earlier, three movies.
Starting point is 01:45:37 And you can do a commentary with us. Now, next week, we're going back. for the attack and see if the Children of the Corn movies get better as we go along. That sounds terrible. Have fun of that. So we will be joined by our good old friend Steve Carlton. For Children of the Corn, I got to make sure I'm reading this correctly. Part 3, Urban Harvest. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:46:04 Urban Harvest? That sounds racist. Okay. And also part four, the Gathering. is that like magic cards or? Yes, the whole movie is magic kids. Okay, now that I can see. So, uh, Philip,
Starting point is 01:46:20 Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.

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