The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #38: Death Spa (1989) & A Cure For Wellness (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: August 28, 2021

This week, It's the new Dane DeHaan movie, A Cure For Wellness, as well as the 80's cheese classic Death Spa. Thanks for listening!

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similarities and also differences. Our goal here is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same from generation to generation, but also to point out how the presentation of the film can change, and that's based on the social and political climate that we're living in. We include spoilers for the new film. However, we will wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature, and we'll let you know before we do so with a spoiler alert. If you don't wish to hear them, just simply turn us off at that point, and we promise you won't miss a thing. You can listen to the rest of the show later.

But at the end, that's all we're going to cover is the spoilers. And, of course, we generally assume you guys have already seen the classic film. So there will always be spoilers when we are discussing anything that has been out for at least a year. The other thing we will definitely do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies, at least the good ones, tend to be R-rated,

so you can pretty much expect us to be too. And I'm Lance, and with me as always, are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's he going, guys? Come on pretty good. Buenos Dias. What are you guys doing? Well, we'll, as always,

Let's start out with the cool of the week. And, Brian, I think you've got the coolest weather, so you get the honors, sir. To be true, I don't think I watch shit this week, honestly. Man, that's a switch. Yeah, but definitely my cool of the week. I got to be a guest on a friend of the show, Kevin Nez's podcast, the Magnus Podcast. Oh, yeah, that's right, man. And it was a lot of fun.

Definitely. Again, I've said it before on this show. So if you were not listening to the Magnus Podcasts or E Society, both his podcasts, you definitely need to check it out. He's a great guy, and I had a lot of fun. And, yeah, I can't think of anything I watched this week. I will have some mini reviews next week on a couple trailers we did check out. Don't Knock Twice and The Arbor Demon. Right.

Yeah, I got those movies. I just haven't got a chance to watch them yet, so I'll probably talk about that next week. Okay. What did you, what did you guys talk about on Kevin's show? Pretty much, same thing, same deal when you were on, just to, you know, get to know you, you know, talked about how I got started, podcasting, a couple of interests we share, you know, some wrestling talk, you know, you know, it's just basically get to know you stuff. and I let Kevin know he is basically how I feel he is the unofficial fourth member

of the horror returns. He is definitely welcome anytime on here. Oh yeah, absolutely. And I can't wait so we have a mega cast with him and Jesse. Maybe we'll work something out in the future.

So Jack in there, man. We'll have a whole bunch people. Yeah, definitely. Invite invite Pedro back, get Jay on. Oh, that's definitely like a two, three-hour podcast right there. We still need to get Mark on for that Friday the 13th retrospective, whenever you guys want to do that. I know Kevin wants to be on that as well.

Oh, yeah, he definitely reminded me about it when we talked. Cool. Yeah, I watched a couple of things this week, I think my cool of the week has gotten to be that on on Netflix last night. And man, I forgot how amazing

that movie is. It is an absolute classic. And if you haven't watched it in a while, it's on Netflix. Go check it out. Every line in that movie is hilarious. It was so great sit down and watch it, man.

I was done. It's, hard to remember back and go through all those classic lines. It's really great. It's a piece of cinematic master. Yeah.

Who are the, who are the biggest names that were in that movie? I'm trying to remember. Shit, I probably haven't seen it since, like, it first came out.

Well, it's got Jonah Hill and Michael Sarah are the two main guys. Michael Sarah, okay, that's what I can remember. Okay.

And then it's got, Like the cops are super funny that's Seth Rogen plays a cop, right? Yeah, and then that other dude that normally bothers the shit out of me, I can't remember it as his name. Oh, uh, Bill Hader?

Yeah, normally he bothers me, but I really thought he was funny in this movie. And, uh, Pogul. Uh, dude, uh, McLeodin. Oh, yeah, of course. Oh, shit.

Probably know, His name is McLevin a whole lot more than you know his actual name. That dude is so funny, man. He's a mixture of about three or four of my really good friends in high school. Part of the reason I like this movie so much. It's pretty close to home, huh? Yeah, yeah. Emma Stone.

That was, I think, her first movie. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, I knew somebody else really big now that wasn't as big at the time. was in it. That's who I was trying to remember. I'd forgotten Michael Sira was in it. Yeah, there's a bunch of people

in this movie, man. It is definitely like a high school comedy classic. And it ranks right up there with the breakfast of love and stuff like that. Strong words, man, but yeah, I think you're

dead on, man. I think it deserves to be in the same conversation as both those movies. Oh, definitely. It might be better. It's pretty funny. I'm telling you, there's not a moment where I wasn't laughing out loud. I was lolling.

All right. Well, Michael of the Week is a return of a certain television show that's been away for a couple of months and had made its dramatic return Sunday night. Have you guys had a chance to do? see the new episode yet? Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That was in my running for a cool of the week.

Talk about Walking Dead. Yeah, Brian, did you check it out? I am like five episodes behind, so. Oh, no. Okay. All right. Well, no, go ahead. I'm cool with spoilers.

Go ahead. Don't really need to spoil it too much. I mean, there weren't any major deaths, if that's what you're wondering. I guess they get a lot of that out of the way last, or the first half of the season. But it's a, for people who read the comic book, it's veering off a little bit. Like you've got the main groups, but it seems like they're introducing a new group. Like they did, the first half of the season, they introduced a new group of survivors that was all women. And those, that group wasn't in the comic book at all.

And now they've run into another group that doesn't look like they were in the comic book at all. So, you know, they're continuing to mix things up. Like, they follow the basic template of the comics. But right now, Rick's just, uh, he's made his mind up that they're going to fight back, which I was like, how the fuck are they going to do that? Because they gave away literally all their guns except like one or two. And in the comic books, that never happened. They never gave all their guns up, you know? So I was thinking, man, we're the, how are they going to do this? Well, I think they've got enough extra groups that they're introducing now that I might be further back than five episodes now.

I'm thinking about it. Oh, okay. I think I watch, I think it was the introduction of Ezekiel. Oh, okay. I'm not too far back. Okay. You read the comic books at all? I have them.

I haven't read them. Right. I just, I don't know. I got a stack of comic books and movies and video games that I haven't even open. trying to find trying to find a time and it's just

hasn't been happening lately so but eventually yeah no it's definitely getting good they're hitting that that team again

it looks like it's about it's got to pick up right where that season finale where they all get real badass all of a sudden left off yeah you'll you'll get to it soon enough, Brian.

You're not that far behind, man. Okay. I mean, hell, you could catch up in a weekend, dude. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm excited to see it back, guys, for sure. You know, I've definitely missed it while it was away. I'm actually looking forward to Fear the Walking Dead again. I didn't think I was going to like that show as much as I do.

But another show I'm watching, I'm not quite ready to put it in Cool of the Week yet because it's such a slow burn, but it's starting to grow on me a little bit as taboo. You guys check that out? No, I got them all. Got them all into the EBR. Yeah, once it got to the third episode, man, it started

pulling me in. So that may be my cool of the week next week, I suspect, unless you know, I check out some really good movies or something. Yeah, I heard they've been letting them say fuck and everything on there. Yeah, that's the weirdest thing in the world, dude, on FX. Oh, wow. Yeah, they drop five or six

F-bombs each episode. Like, when the fuck did this start getting allowed to happen on TV? I mean, even Jacks didn't do that. Yeah, I think somebody told me they dropped one F-bomb on Atlanta, the Donald Glover

show. Okay. I didn't hear it. I don't even remember it. And I guess they're just letting them go with it on, that's what I read. Taboo, they've just been letting them go, letting them fly. Well, I mean, I'm all for it.

I think it has realism to the show. I mean, you know, that's the thing about the walking death. That's the only thing about the governor. You know, when he's, he'll get pretty close to saying it. But in the comic book, he's just like, fuck you and fuck him and fuck that and put Lucille up your ass and fuck you with it. And, you know, I mean, he's in the comic book a lot more, a lot more rough than he is in the show. Did you guys read that they're toning down the violence and the, language on Walking Dead for the rest of the season?

No, not not particularly. But I mean, they're coming into a part of the storyline where there's, quite frankly, there's not a whole lot more violence until they get to what I'm assuming is going to be like the final episode, at least if they follow the comic book. Yeah, I guess they were going to tone it down because of the backlash they got of the first episode this season. Right. But, yeah.

My thing is, If you're offended by violence and language, why are you watching The Walking Dead? You know, watch something else. Yeah, switch over to Power Rangers or something, huh? Yeah, definitely. I'm sure it's on somewhere. All right, man, you ready? You ready to fill us in on the news, Brian?

Got quite a bit of news, so I'm going to start with my Blu-ray pick. My upcoming Blu-ray pick is going to be the eyes of my mother, which is due March 7th. Did you guys ever get a chance to watch this movie? I have not seen it. It's available to me, but I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, it's definitely, for me, it was a slow burn, but it was a slow burn in a good way.

Right. It was really interesting. I like the whole movie being shot in black and white. I recommend it, definitely. You have the opportunity to watch it. check it out quick update on a past story

we talked about Matt Reeves was going to direct the Batman Matt Reeves has already dropped out of directing the Batman so Wow

Wait a minute That's two You just announced that last week Dude Yep he's already out What? I don't know I think this

Honestly I think they're going to end up rebooting this whole DC cinematic universe because I just keep hearing rumors that Ben Affleck doesn't even want to do Batman no more.

Yeah, you mentioned that last week that you heard that he was kind of going cold on it. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. We shall see, but it's just, I am just

just, just week by week, you just keep hearing good Marvel news. like story after story, but DC is just like one thing after another. It's just I don't know how any of these. I mean, moving on to our next DC item, I'm a little bit excited for this director to be, you know, doing a big budget movie. David F. Sandberg, he did the Lights Out movie. Right. He's going to be directing Shazam.

They don't even have someone to play Shazam. They casted The Rock as the villain in that movie. and who are you going to cast opposite of the rock, you know? Shack. Obviously. Wow, man, that would be, that might actually be worth watching. Yeah, because it would be one of those. It would be one of those so bad it's good movies.

Right. But I'm just totally confused of what they're doing at DC and Warner's. Interesting, man. Yeah, it sounds like, I mean, It's like, yeah, you're right. I mean, you hear nothing but good things out of Marvel, and then DC is just nothing but turmoil every single week. It's something new from them.

Sure seems that way. It's hard to function under that kind of stress on top of already having a few movies that have come out that have been completely subpar. Right. And yet they still make money. Oh, yeah. Suicide Squad was the number one movie for like four weeks in a row, remember?

I'm going to still go watch them. Suicide Squad was, I think, really fun to watch. Batman versus Superman. I'm glad I saw that, you know? That makes one of us. Yeah, but see. But they were awesome. Yeah, exactly.

That's my thing. I don't want, like, when you go see a movie that has Batman and Superman for the first time in a live action movie, I don't want to walk out saying it was okay. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you expect to be blown away, you know, especially the budgets they've got to work with. Exactly. It's not making an excuse for that, man. And Batman v. Superman took, what, three years to make?

Right. And I should have just been blown away. Like, it was way worse than suicide spot. And, I mean, you know, both of them made money. they were both you know at least worth watching they just weren't as good as they needed to be

I think Affleck needs to get to get down off his high horse man I mean this last movie he did live by night fucking bombed at the box office you know Have you seen it though? Have you?

No I haven't seen it man it didn't really appeal to me I saw the trailer for it and a lot of people were saying hey yeah it looks good you know, Affleck's back directing again, and I'm like, I don't know, just for some reason, it just didn't grab me, you know?

It doesn't appeal to me either, but I bet you it's probably good if you sit down and watch it. I just haven't found out of that. Yeah, we got to give it a chance. I mean, I'll definitely watch it. Don't get me wrong. It's just that, you know, I mean, here he is on his high horse about Batman and, you know, him being a master of his art, you know, and then he makes a movie that when, what, did Argo win best picture? It did, right?

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Okay, yeah, and then he waits four years and he does live by night, and it bombs, I mean, shit. I mean, if he would just have the right attitude and do Batman the right way, it could probably be a goddamn good movie. That's what's frustrating. The problem is they probably won't give him enough leeway to do it the right way. I guarantee that's when he dropped out is because he doesn't have any kind of creative freedom. Oh, yeah, so first they, first they isolated.

leto and now they're isolating Affleck, huh? Yep, yep. All right. Yeah, that makes sense. See, and that's a shame too. Because they've had a lot of talent coming in there, and they are fucking it up.

Yeah, because from what I'm hearing, Lotto doesn't even want to play the Joker no more, because he felt, he felt lied to about his role in the movie, so. And I don't blame him. I, you know, I mean, he was barely in that last movie, and I didn't particularly like the stuff that he was in.

Who the fuck is running Warner Brothers in D.C.? Jerry Jones or what? Come on. I mean, goddamn step down and let some people make some decisions that are out on the playing field, damn it. Exactly. Okay, we think we exhausted that subject enough. So we're going to kind of breeze through here. Some good news, Westworld star Thandi Newton is in talks to join the Han Solo movie. You guys excited about that?

Oh, of course, man. Yeah. Yeah. Star Wars can do no wrong at this point. Dude, anything that Disney has a whole job is going to kick ass. And, you know, can't go wrong with Han Solo. And that chick's pretty awesome. Because Westworld is pretty amazing.

That's one of my favorite shows. So I'm pretty stoked. Okay. Moving on to a couple of next items here. A couple of shows. I know Lance is excited for. Sci-Fi just renewed Channel Zero for a third and fourth season. Which I enjoyed the first one.

Yeah. You know my opinion about it. But here's the thing, man. Here's the thing. It's each season is its own anthology. So, of course, I'm going to give season two a shot, man. You know, just because I didn't like the first story doesn't mean I'm, you know, not going to like the rest of them. So I'll give a shot.

And another thing I liked, if they keep it that way, it was only six episodes. Yes, makes a big difference, doesn't it? Another show, I think you're excited for American Horror Story. They just announced their next theme, will be inspired by the election. I heard about this. Oh, no. And when... Well, I mean, if you really want to define it, dude, American Horror Story, you probably can't get much horror.

then what just happened. Oh, boy. And get this. When Ryan Murphy, uh, creator of the show was asked, uh, where the,

well, there'll be a Trump-like character. He replied, maybe. Maybe. Of course. There has to be. There has to.

Like the whole thing, man. Like I was looking at a, uh, a thread on Facebook that popped up from my favorite radio station. Right. The subject said,

three words that are better than I love you go and under the comments like the first one was I have tacos and it was fine and uh you know some things that were similar to that and then it started getting into

uh let's impeach Trump and uh lock up Hillary and uh you know like it went super political super fast and then of course everybody explodes commenting on the comment and

And man, I've never seen a more volatile political atmosphere than what we got going right now. Yeah, I don't know, guys. You're saying they're going to do an election, American Horror Story. This may finally get me to chuck it in, guys, on this show. I mean, every fucking year for me has been worse than the year prior. And this one, when they hit that midway point and they kind of switch gears, I thought, okay, I can kind of get into this. They're actually going in a different direction. But when they came out with that fucking piece of shit that was the final episode of this last season,

oh man, I think I'm done. I don't even think I'm going to try this one, to be honest with you. Yeah, I think they just tried to wrap it up a little too fast. I mean, because this season was only, what, like 10, 12 episodes? Yeah, I think they just tried to wrap it up too fast or something. And that last episode was just putting way too much information into one episode. and they didn't have time to go into depth into anything. Okay.

What about you, Brian? You still watch an American story? I'm going to stick with it. I like last season. I do agree with you. I fucking hated that last episode. Yeah, well, me too, but I still like the show. Yeah, I liked it.

They tried something different. I like that they shorten it down to 10 episodes. And I like what they tried. it shows me that they're not afraid to try new things but that like I said that that episode was just shit

I was confused at what was going on they I don't know I felt like I was watching a bunch of shows in one episode and yeah like after the last episode

I went huh yeah I even though even though I hated it I almost wanted to watch the finale again, because I was just so confused on what the fuck was happening. And, you know, when it comes to American horror story, you know, sometimes that could be a good thing where you just say what the fuck is happening, because they kind of just sometimes go all out with a whole bunch of stuff. But not when it comes to last season's finale.

It was, it was like I said, a piece of shit. and hopefully with this idea, maybe it could be something. I don't know. I just have to wait and see. A quick, EC News we're going to bring up. You guys might have heard this.

DC and Warner Brothers is pursuing Mel Gibson to direct the Suicide Squad sequel. You mentioned something about that last week. Does this guy... What does this be directed? Um, Hacksaw Ridge, which... Oh, I never did... Yeah, that's up for best...

Yeah. Oh, wow, is it? I'm intrigued because there's not too many movies that he's directed that I didn't like, so... Yeah, same here, man. But on the other hand, he's publicly came out and said comic book movies

are shit, and matter of fact, the one that he said was a piece of shit was Batman v. Super. man. Well, he and I agree on that one. Yeah, so I don't know if this will actually happen, but if it does,

it does peak my interest. Okay. A couple more things. Have you guys ever seen the Raid movies? Yeah, of course. I actually haven't. I still need to watch them.

Yeah, we are actually getting an American remake. I knew it was coming, man. I didn't know it was official, but I heard that rumor. Yeah, it's going to be directed by Joe Cornahan, and it's going to star Frank Grillo. Oh. And Gareth Edwards, he produced the original ones, or he directed the original ones. He's coming back as producer.

Really? So, yeah, I am. Our friend Eddie, our friend Eddie from Cali will love that, man. the Grillo part. Yeah, my views on remakes, I don't care, remake anything. Because if it's great, you've got another good movie you to watch.

If it's not, you always have the original to go back to. That's a good attitude, man. I don't, yeah, this one, I don't, see working, because I don't think they can duplicate what they did in the first ones. From the raid, all I want is a third raid movie. I don't want an American remake. Yeah, well, like I said last week, man, they've already done it.

You know, it was called Dredd. Yeah. Just like, what was the movie we reviewed? Train to Busan. I don't think an American remake will work, honestly. And yet, you told us they're already coming out with one, right? Yeah, they've already, it's done deal, it's happening. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I'll probably end up watching it. I like Frank Grillo. Right. And Joe Cornahan, he's done some good movies. He did The Grey. He also did, what was the other one, Stretch with Patrick Wilson. Yeah, saw that one.

That was a pretty good little direct-to-video movie. Surprisingly good. So this is another thing. I'll have to wait until I actually see it even. But I honestly, I don't think it'll work because I don't think they can capture the same match. that they had in the first two rate movies because that was just from start to finish just action

and violent action and I'm more anticipated in watching that trailer we reviewed a headshot. Right. Because pretty much that has a few of the same people that were in the raid movie and it's been described as a movie

to hold you over until the third raid movie and that's what I want. Right. Moving on to our last news item A couple of Actually A sequel and a spin-off has Official release dates

Okay We are getting a We are getting a fourth purge movie Oh fuck From what I read It's from what I read It's probably going to be a prequel So there's gonna

Frank Grillo will not be returning From what I read James DeMonico, who's done all the other Purge movies. He's also not returning. And they have a set date of July 4th, 2018. All right. Well, you guys enjoy it, man. I'm hoping you don't make us cover it, Brian.

Unless it's a super slow week. I don't know. I was pretty excited. I was pretty excited about that Purge TV show. and uh yeah that's it kind of sucks if they did the movie instead yeah that's i was i'm on that same boat too uh especially when they described it as each episode was going to be basically to build up to whoever was going to kill somebody what was their reasons for you know you never really got that more back and that sound yeah that sounded interesting but i think i think this is the last one because it's going to be a prequel where do you go after that and frank

Grillo came out and said he thinks he's done doing purge movies. Moving on to the Raid remake instead, huh? Yeah. The other big movie that was announced, also on the same month, will come out July, Friday the 13th. The Conjuring Spinoff movie The Nun. Yeah, a little more excited about that one, I think. The director, Corin Hardy, he is the... the one, I haven't

seen his movie The Hollow, but he's the one that's supposed to be doing the Crow reboot. Right. So he's a fairly new director, so don't really know. I'm excited for the character of the Nunn. I thought there could be a

lot of backstory on that whole character. Yeah. I just hope they don't mess it up because I mean, it was such a great movie, you know? And And there's so much potential to screw it up pretty bad. I know definitely I feel that it won't be another Annabelle.

Because judging from the trailer for Annabelle 2, it looks like they're getting away with everything that they were doing originally and going into a different area. A way creepier, more traditional horror movie style. Yeah, just like with the new Ouija movie, that was completely different from the first one. And I think a lot of these horror movies... Yeah, I think a lot of these horror movies,

except for the bye-bye man, really just learn from all those mistakes. Let's still remind me of that one, dude. Please. Oh, my gosh, I keep having to tell people, don't waste your time. If you want to watch it, wait until it's going to end up on Netflix. Oh, yeah, probably like next week.

Yeah. You're right. Probably sooner rather than. than later, huh? Well, you know, your quote is on the Blu-ray box, Brian? Oh, is it? Did you notice that?

Yeah, pick up the Blu-ray for it. It says right there at the top, don't watch it, don't see it. Yeah, you can quote me on that. Didn't think you'd mind them taking that one from you. But, yeah, I mean, even if it's on Netflix, I'm pretty sure, go ahead and watch Super

Bad instead. There you guess. Don't watch that, my man. Well, on that note, that's your news, right? Yep, that is all the news. All right, well, let's get the fuck out of here and take a trip down to the trailer. Take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer this week, man?

I think we're going to start out with the weird first. Galaxy of Horrors. Yeah, what the fuck was that, man? This is a new horror anthology. and I think I am totally in on this. I like horror anthologies, but I don't know if I've ever seen one that was like a horror sci-fi anthology.

I'm trying to think, man. There aren't a whole lot of those are there. I couldn't think either. I mean, nothing popped up in my head. Yeah, TV shows, you know, like the Twilight Zone and stuff like that. Yeah, but never, I've never seen a sci-fi horror.

anthology movie. So I am I'm definitely interested on IMDB it doesn't it only lists one person in this movie L. Gabriel and directed by

a lot of the directors look like they're fairly new directors so we might get like some fresh takes on stuff new story, you know stuff we might not have seen before. Just the visuals of it looks super cool. Oh, El Gabriel is listed as flesh computer.

There you go. That'll set the mood for what to expect, huh? Flesh computer, huh? Yeah. If anybody's, I'm going to, I post all the trailers on our Facebook page. So if anybody wants to check those out, this one is going to be out March 7th on VOD. Well, you know we're all going to see it because, I mean, the good thing about an anthology is if you don't like the one you're watching, just wait a few minutes and you get a different one to look at, right?

Exactly. Yeah, it's crazy that it's out in March, and IMDB doesn't have shitlisted for it. Well, that worries me. That could be a good thing, man. You know, give a lot of new filmmakers a chance here, you know? We'll see. Okay, let's see.

Our next one is Personal Shopper, starring Kristen Stewart. Listen, Stewart. The mouth raised either. Why not? Todd! This definitely...

Go ahead. She's like the, ah, damn it, I can't remember her. What the fuck? Ignore. And, Philip? Ignore what I'm saying.

And he's gone. Oh. It's about a minute and it's going to be fine. This movie definitely looks like it's going to be slow. Yeah. Uh. Slow is definitely a good word. I don't know.

But not a good way. Yeah, I might be a little bias. I can't stand anything Kristen Stewartson. She just, she's always on screened with a blank expression and her mouth open, breathing through her mouth. I just, I think the only- The Napoleon Dynamite. Yes, she's the female version of Napoleon Dynamite. Oh, no, Philip.

Oh, hell. What the hell? Freaking idiot. Oh my gosh, she's like him and what's the other guy, Kip? She's like their long-lost sister. See? Yeah, she's got that expression on her face all the time. Yeah, I can't fairly review this one because that's all I see is that expression.

Moving on? Yeah. One that I'm really interested in is Wish Upon. Oh, yeah, that looks pretty cool. Yeah, starring, yeah, starring Sherry, Lange. Finn, Joey King, Shannon Purser, which if you guys don't know the name,

you might recognize the character she played Barb in Stranger Things. Ah, okay. And Ryan Philippi. And this is directed by John R. Leonetti, and he has done

Annabelle, and he's directed some episodes for Sleepy Hollow and a bunch of other TV shows. this one really looked interesting it looked like we are going to get like final destination style death scenes because because of these wishes that are being made right and that's that's all I need right there honestly are we are we sure this is going to be R rated yet or do we or do we know um I can check real quick because I could see it going either way you know I mean

based on the based on the trade it looked like it could either be really cool and really gory and bloody or it could be just kind of, you know, cop out where they come right real close to showing you the death and then move the camera away or something. I got you. But yeah, Joey, she's a pretty good little actress, man. She's been in, she's done a lot of comedy. She's done some horror. She's done drama. She's actually been around for a pretty long time.

I think I first saw her in quite a few comedy movies, like stuff with that. Adam Sandler and things like that. And then, of course, she was in the original Conjuring, if you guys remember that. Yes. She was in the Independence Day movies. She's been around a while. Yeah, from what I'm seeing here, it's not yet rated. So it could be rated R.

Well, I hope. Well, it does look very, like, teenage-oriented, though, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's not. I think we can, well, I mean, know we can deal with it, but I think people can deal with a R-rated teenage horror movie. Yeah, no, I think that they could, but it's possible that to expand that audience, they would keep it from going R-rated, you know? Although, you know, realistically, if they're looking for that teenage audience, they probably should go over.

Yeah, because I always have to go back with it. I think Deadpool kind of let us know. know that if it's a good movie and it's rated R, it's going to, I mean, look at Deadpool, what it did, it almost made like 800 million. If you build it, they will come, huh? There you go. Moving on to our last trailer, it comes at night, starring Joel Edgerton, Riley Canoe, Christopher Abbott, and Carmen Ijogo.

This one looks very dark, very creepy, and it's got my attention. I like Joel Edgerton. I liked him in, what was that movie he did with Jason Bateman? Is that his name, Jason Bateman? I'm not real sure. I mean, he's done a lot of movies. In fact, oh, yeah, yeah, Jason Bateman, the one he actually directed, the gift. Yes.

Yes, I really enjoyed that movie. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think he can do that kind of creepy kind of villain of the movie type character really well. Yeah, he can be a villain or a hero, and he sells it. Yeah, and I'm really intrigued on what's in that door. What are they, you know, what are they? Oh, yeah, the trailer starts out. They're already in conversation of something that had happened or they had seen,

and you're just like really trying to figure out what's going on. And I am definitely looking forward to this. one. Yeah, I think out of all the ones that we've seen, I'm probably looking forward to this one the most and then wish upon after that, you know? Yeah, we're actually getting, oh, I didn't let everybody know wish upon will be June 30th. Okay. And it comes at night will be June 9th. Oh, okay, so both summer releases then.

Yeah, which is not very common that you get a lot of the, because there's going to be a lot of horror movies. coming out this summer. You don't really get that a lot. You work for the Conjuring, too, last year. True, true. Didn't work too well for the darkness. Gosh. Oh, the darkness. Okay, since we're going to end with that, that is our last trailer right there.

All right. So, listener feedback, huh? Let's see. Our friend Patrick Lear, he's kind of become something of an honorary contributor at this point. He sends something in every week. And once again, he doesn't disappoint in the feedback area. Pat writes, I thought the witch

was terrible. It was boring as hell up until the last five minutes. I honestly think the only reason Yeah, I figured. I honestly think the only reason most people like it is that last five minutes, but you had to sit through the slow, boring churn of the rest of the movie

to get there. I've heard people say that And that That was the review that I had heard of the witch Before I went to see it I thought it was good But it was definitely To each of their own, I suppose

He also said John Wick 2 was really good I personally think In McShane's character Helps him out secretly in the next one I bet you he's probably right I mean it makes sense to me but you can tell he and John have a professional friendship.

But he has to disavow him because of the position he was in. And is McShane John Wiff's father? Patrick, where do you come up with this shit, man? That is interesting. You never know. It might be, man. Yeah, but I kind of don't want it to go there. Yeah, but it leaves it.

It wouldn't surprise me if it did. I mean, it wouldn't be horrible as long as they did it the right way, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, positive way to look at it, we would just get more Ian McShane, and I've enjoyed them in both movies. Well, they definitely did a kick-ass job in John Wick, too, so I'll watch whatever they do in the last room. Let's see. Our friend Denny Louie, host of the Astre Midnight Podcast, asked. How dare you say Immortals was a shitty movie, Lance.

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We're back. We're back. All right. Then that means it's time for our featured attractions. After 38 episodes, it may be time for a day at the health spa to bring us back to our senses. This week, we're going to review Gore Verbensky's new film A Cure for Wellness and also the late 80s cheese classic Death Spa. Oh, I got my leg warmness ready.

We'll start with Death Spy. As always, I'll go into some trivia before we give our opinions. I think Phillips probably going to want to go first. He's pretty excited about this one. Director of Death Spy is Michael Fischer, also known for my mom's a werewolf in a segment in Dead Time Stories. The writers get this, James Bond. Gar-Truff and the second writer of the screenplay was Mitch Paradise.

And these two are not known for much of anything else. I looked in Wikipedia. I looked at IMDV. I looked at a couple of sources and couldn't find a damn thing. Do you guys really think Mitch Paradise is a real name or what? It could be. I kind of doubt it, man. It sounds like it fits right along with this 80s cheesy movie.

well this uh this this was uh the actor merit butrick's final film before his death on march 17th 1989 at the age of 29 are you are you guys familiar with merit butrick no who the fuck was he in the movie he was the creepy guy that was running all the computers oh that asshole okay that asshole did he look did he look familiar to you at all a little bit he kind of looked like maybe he's played that kind of role in a bunch of other movies

that kind of creepy geeky guy yeah he actually first thing I saw him in was speaking of geeks a TV show called Square Pegs which is kind of freaks and geeks of the 80s if you will yeah I've actually heard of that one

the thing I most remember him for though is in Star Trek 2 the Wrath of Khan he played Captain Kirk's long-lost son. Oh, shit. That is him. That's the guy. Okay. Yeah, tragic, man. He died at the age of 29.

Is it at a spot? This was his last movie. Hey, look, a butterfly thing. Well, this film had to be, this is interesting. The film, it probably won't surprise you to hear this next bit, guys, had to be extensively cut in order to secure an R rating from the MPAA. The extras in the shower scene were obtained from a porn casting agency.

Anybody surprised to hear that? Not really. That's what made this movie worth watching. They could probably get away with a whole lot more today. That's why we knew you wanted to go first, Philip. Have at it, man. They probably could have got away with a whole lot more today than they did back in, man. You think?

This was 80s at its best. And see, when I saw that it said 89, I was like, okay, let's check it out.

Right. Man, boy, it is 80s hardcore. I feel like these late 80s, early 90s movies are sometimes

really hard to watch for me. Oh, yeah? Yeah, they're so, like, really bad. Almost painfully so,

huh? It is. Yeah, it's super cheesy. And like the stuff that they do, it doesn't really make any stench. You know, like, well, why don't they just do this? Mm-hmm. I'm like, well, that would ruin the whole movie. But you know what? If you ask that question and the answer is because that would ruin the whole movie,

that it's probably not a movie worth watching. And I feel like that definitely is true of this one. There were a lot of nudity scenes, which were, it's really only saving grace. And I was like, well, this movie sucks, but, you know. And that's about my review of the movie, man. That's kind of how we're there. Yeah, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually going to watch this movie during my lunch break at work, Philip. Yeah.

I'm really glad I didn't. Yeah. Really glad I didn't. So here's what I'm trying to figure out. Brian, maybe you can help me with this. Was this a health spa? Or was this a swingers club, man?

You know, it's the 80s. It could have been both, really. Apparently. Aerobics class with the dudes in the valet shoes and the tights and the leg warmers. That whole thing was just ridiculous. Apparently it was a club at the end too. Don't forget the act club.

Oh, yeah, that's right. The big Mardi Gras party. Which even though people had been dying in the place the whole time from this crazy computer system that was killing people, they're like, well, we still have to have the party because that's what's going to keep. Oh, yeah. Kind of like Jaws. They're going to keep the beach open no matter what, huh? Well, that's the only thing it makes any sense. Why not?

Right. Close for the party. that's our biggest day of the year. We can't do that. I know, right? There's so many things that don't make sense in this movie. Right.

From the get-go. Yeah, I would say that yeah, from that first scene when you've got the chick staying behind doing a dancing, doing a dance where she was basically kind of like having an orgasm while she was dancing or something like that.

And then Marvin walks in. And did you notice went old Marvin walked in. She was sitting down on the floor and her face was righted about the level of his crotch when he walked into the dance studio. And she just turned to her and goes... She just goes, oh, hi, Marvin. It's you.

She recognized him. I said to. From that view. She must have been from that born casting agency. Yeah, I would definitely say that, the uh yeah the the the the the nudity was a was a pretty decent saving grace for this movie um but i mean it was kind of fun you guys you guys have to admit it was so fucking shit this is one of those that was so bad it was good yeah i'll give you that because it was way better than a couple of them

that we watched lately and at like it was even though it was awful it was really awful but it was it was so bad that it was mad you know i'll tell you i'll tell you one thing when these when these guys order, you know, food for the party and they say they want fresh fish, they order some fresh fucking fish. Oh, that was the most ridiculous seed. Almost as ridiculous as that, what was it, the sex scene with the asparagus? Yeah. What in the hell?

That's not sexy at all. Oh, and this movie is so... brother. This movie is so dated too. There was a scene where I got some notes written. There was a scene where a lady approaches a guy in the gym

and he kind of says she's too good for him by saying that I'm beta and your BHS. Oh yeah. Oh, that's right. I wanted to mention that. That was so awesome. That comes up

this movie. Terrible. And besides that guy and that awkward guy that was just constantly on the row, on the row machine, for some reason, he was just always, every guy in this movie was a fucking asshole completely. Yeah, it's kind of hard to like any character, wasn't it? And I was trying to figure out, okay, the guy, the chick that ended up going blind, that was his girlfriend, right? Yeah, that was his, that was what I got from it. girlfriend. Okay, but was he banging every chick that got a membership

there? Well, he definitely left the door open. He definitely had an open door policy. There's no doubt about that. Because it kind of seemed like there was supposed to be some kind of perks with getting a membership, and he always kept telling these girls, you know, I'll see you after, you know,

the club closes or gym closes or whatever it is. Right. I was really confused. Man, there was a lot to be confused about. I remember the two chicks approached him and they said, we'll meet you afterwards or something. And then one of them had to go do something.

She said, do you mind taking care of him by yourself? I got to go do something else. Do you remember that? Yeah, there was a lot of implied sex going on at the spa. Yeah, like I said, man, I couldn't tell if it was a spa or a swingers club, you know? I mean, it was, uh,

I want to bring up that cop to, he might have been the biggest asshole, because my notes here my notes here when he finds out how the the main character's wife dies he says I need to start I need to start to get my wife smoking in bed

Oh wow Wow That's bad And he says this at the scene When they're interviewing I'm like what the fuck is going on Yeah and then he starts Trying to make it with the

The bartender chick Oh yeah I've seen him in some other movies, too. I couldn't quite place him. Oh, the cop? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure, man. He didn't look too familiar to me.

They all looked about the same. They had that 80s key thing going for him, man. And you would think 89, the end of the 80s would not be so cheesy. And no, no, no, no, no. This was as cheesy as a game. At the end, when everybody was trying to get out of the spa, Did you guys get like a carry vibe? Like the prompt, the prompt scene?

I guess. I didn't really think about it too much, to be honest with you. Yeah. I don't know if I put that much thought into it, man, to tell you the truth. But hey, you're talking about that actor that played the cop, Brian? Yes. You said he looked a little bit familiar? Yes.

I went to his Francis X. McCarthy. I'm looking up his IMDV page. 132 rolls I'm pretty sure I'm seeing him then Wow You've probably most recently seen him in You watch Bates Motel right Yes

Yeah he's shown up at a couple of episodes of that He's shown up in Smallville Race to Marr Oh God a lot of NYPD Blue A bunch of TV movies and TV shows. But, yeah, he was actually had roles in Interstellar and Deep Impact.

Oh, wow. Yeah, General Scott in Deep Impact and somebody named Boots and Interstellar, which I don't fucking remember. He looks like he can play a general. You guys ready to get into some ratings? That didn't take long. Another one of our shortest reviews. Philip, you come first, man.

There's not a lot to say about death spa. Yeah, except what Mark Chevalier said on our Facebook page, he reminded me of the tagline, you'll sweat. Blood. Is that the tagline? Yeah. Oh, my God. Or when somehow that guy, the scene that stuck out to me was the guy that was the guy that was doing the butterfly press.

and like for some reason his ribs like the computer turned to weight so far up that he didn't deal with it anymore and for some reason like one of his lips started poking out and it doesn't even make any sense how the fuck are you going to have a computer that controls the weight on a

on a freestanding machine doesn't make any sense if we're talking about death seeds how about I guess apparently the computer controls of the lockers because remember the I guess it was where you hang your coats and stuff the rod just came out and

entailed that girl's head oh Jesus this is this is I don't even know what to say about it anymore oh yeah I think we should just get into ratings all right well my rating for this one I'm gonna go two And it's, uh, both of those points are basically because it's, it's funny and there's boo.

And those, the boobs are hard two points. Oh, dude. You stole my lightning, man. You stole my thunder. That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, two points. One for each breast. All right, Brian?

There you go. I am going to, one up you. and give it a three. Woo, man. Because, like I said, you will never get lines like I'm Bada and your VHS in another movie ever again.

So I'm going to give this, I'm going to give it a three. I got to say, you said that line, I laughed. And I thought, oh, I got to listen this later. But I will say, if anybody wants to watch this movie, it is good for a laugh.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Don't get us wrong. I mean, we're, you know, we're being, we're being hard on it. But the truth of the matter is, it was fun to, at the end of the day, it was fun to watch, you know? Yeah. I don't know if it was originally intended to be as funny as it was, but it was pretty funny. Probably not.

If you look at it before, it might be over a while watch. And there's lots of titties in this movie, too. There you go. That's it. You give it a point for each movie. You're like 67. right that one titty chick you know

all right so yeah I mean good good for a laugh good good for late night schlock you know maybe if you're tossing a few back or having something else to go with it and yeah yeah that's pretty much yeah right don't go out of your way to see it but uh

you know if you can find it somewhere for free I think I rented it on iTunes I think it was like a dollar 99 or something so I ain't completely yeah yeah I've rented it on my Xbox it's about it's about the same dollar 99. Yeah.

What the hell, man. What the hell? Why not? But we would recommend a lot of other movies first. For sure. Maybe not Which Board. Oh, man. You're going to get into an argument with Kevin, man.

I brought it up on his show. I think which board was better. Do what, Brian? I brought it up. He asked us what was our upcoming show and I told him Despaugh. I told him I liked it better than the witchboard. Kevin's probably a fan of Death Spa, man.

He said he, I don't believe, I think he said he's seen it, he just couldn't quite place it at the moment. Right. I'm sure he's seen it. Death Spa is like Witchboard, but it didn't take itself as serious. Yeah, okay.

That's a good way to put it. Oh, Witchboard. All it had was Tottie Couttain. Yeah. The, and this one had a lot of foreign extras. Yes. Right. Take that witch board.

And both movies featured an entire male cast that was 100% assholes from top to bottom. Completely agree. All right, you guys are ready to move on? Yes. All right. So the feature this week is the brand new movie, A Cure for Wellness. Director is Gore Verbensky. also known for the Ring and several of the Pirates movies.

This was written by Justin Hath, along with Gore Verbensky, and Justin is known for the clearing and revolutionary road, so actually more dramas than horror in his past. The movie was filmed at the Castle Hohenzollern in the Little Town, Hitchingen in Germany. Good job. Castle Hohenzölen

Was completely closed off To the public for filming From July 13th through July 24th of 2015 And Castle Ohensollern In the little town

In the little town of Hetchingen, Germany The only other piece of trivia I could find looking high and low because I started getting into spoilers and I started getting into critics reviews so I quit looking. I didn't want to have it spoil for me, but the other piece of trivia, the film premiered on December 10th, 2016 at the Butnamathon Film Festival in Austin, Texas.

So there you have it. Two and a half hours. Yeah, two and a half hours. You want to go first, Philip? Or Brian, you want to go? Who wants to go first? I'm kind of interested to hear what you thought about it. Yeah, I want to hear you first, Brian.

You saw either one of us did. Yeah, me and my wife actually went with me. I thought she was going to end up fucking killing me because I didn't even know this movie was going to be that long. Yeah, I didn't either. It was definitely a slow burn. Yeah. There was a lot of creepy images.

I'm not really sold on Dane to Han, honestly. Right. Every time I see him on screen, I kind of, I don't, I don't know. It's just something about him. Okay. Now, he's the main character. What else has he been at? He's been in the, what is it, with Michael B. Jordan, where they got the superpowers.

Oh, Chronicle. Chronicle. He was in Chronicle. Oh, he was in Chronicle. The only movie that I actually liked him in was Lawless with Tom Hardy. And, um. Oh, he was in that one? Yeah, he was Shia LaBuff's friend, Cricket, I believe his name was.

Oh, I gotcha. That's the movie where they were running the gin, the legal... Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, that was Shia LaBouffe movie. It's a good movie. Speaking of Shia LeBoof, the girl in this movie is his wife. No kidding. Yeah.

Really? Okay, because she looked like she was like 12. Yeah, no kidding, dude. She did not look that old, man. yeah um i don't want shit spoilers spoiler warning spoiler warning yeah well we'll go to all the spoilers at the end yeah no i'm just a quick thing right here there were there was a scene in here okay that happened that made me go look up her age because it kind of shocked me yeah yeah yeah made you real uncomfortable didn't it yeah yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but um getting

back to the movie um it was definitely her character made me uncomfortable right i think that's just her whole, I don't know. She's going to be in that new Susperia movie. She's going to be in that new Susperia movie. Oh, I like that casting, dude. And her actual, her actual name is Mia Goth. Her actual

last name is Goth. Okay. Okay. Back to the movie. It was, it might have, I don't know, I think it was a little too long for me. I felt like this movie needed to be cut down. I actually felt there was some certain

scenes or certain parts of the movie that they cut stuff out that would have explained it better. I felt like they might have cut the wrong things out of the movie. Maybe. It was towards the end, huh? Yes. Yeah. Like when they all just kind of came all together real quick.

Right. Yeah. But with that being said, Jason Isaac was fantastic to me in this movie. And that dude is, he's the one from the O-A? Yes. Okay, yeah, he's good. He needs a creepy doctor or a creepy scientist. He's your man.

Yes. After this and the OA, I need him to play that role in every movie. Yeah, he's like an older version of a super creepy doctor John Hay. But, oh, my God. There's so much I want to get into spoilers. But yeah, it was, I don't know, it was not what I expected, definitely. Okay. There was a lot of things that I felt weren't explained.

They were just kind of glossed over, which is really surprising. Which is really surprising with the length of this movie to not have certain things explained. I ended up seeing the twist halfway through the movie. Okay. I didn't. I didn't see the whole twist, but they definitely alluded to... They were alluded to... Yeah, I've seen it.

Partially. I had leaned over to my wife, and I was like... basically, oh, this is about to happen. And if I'm doing that halfway through the movie, then it's kind of, I'm not, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I like, that happens. I don't like, I like, that's a shame, man.

Yeah, I like when you get to the twist, you're just like, oh, shit, that's what happened. That's who, you know, did this and did that. Mm-hmm. I didn't get that in this movie. Well, they gave you a clue halfway through it. It was kind of like hitting you in the face of a Brian. Mm-hmm.

You know, so they were, they definitely, let you know what was coming up. There was a lot of foreshad. I felt like this was... I felt like it was a book that was made into a movie. And I don't think that it actually was. You don't think it was based on a book?

I certainly haven't heard of a book that it would have been based on. I don't think that it is because I looked for it. But I felt like it was because, like, like Brian was saying, I think that they may have cuts, especially towards the end of it. but they were trying to bring everything together because I thought they did a really good job with setting everything up it's very much like Shutter Island

it reminds me off I got the same exact vibe dude yeah and uh sports of the way through I was really feeling shutter island big time and this kind of looks a little bit like Leonardo DiCaprio that's what I was going to say yeah

Dengahon looks like a young Leonardo Caprio even more than that he almost looks like yeah but just because of the cadence of his voice and stuff he almost looks like a young Christopher Walken. I think that he's going to be I think that he's going to be a big name

later on. I do, too. But, uh, I don't like him. You don't like him? No, I, honestly, from the minute he spoke in this movie, I'm like, what a fucking asshole. Yeah, but I mean, that was part of the point, dude. I mean, I know, but I've,

had to come from being that character for any, any of it to come together the way it did. Yeah, I don't know. know, it's just something, maybe I've seen an interview of him or something. I don't know. I just, I don't like Dane Dahan. And he fucked up the damn green goblin character in Spider-Man. That's what I was going to say he plays, yeah, he played in a, the amazing Spider-Man.

Way to go, Dane Dahan. That was the, that was the one where they tried to put like seven or eight different Spider-Man villains all in the same movie. Yeah, that's always a mistake. Right. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't like DiCaprio either, though, when he first came. him out, you know? And now he's one of my, now he's one of my favorite actors.

I think this guy can be really good if he develops and he gets into, takes the right roles, you know? Yeah, he's a little young to be this like stockbroker, big businessman, like, going into a, like, in the beginning of the movie, they allude to him being maybe like a partner in his company or something along. Sure. and, you know, he looks like he's, you know, 25, maybe. Hey, the dudes, I'm looking at his IMDB, he's 30 years old, man.

Yeah. Well, he just, he has, I can't believe that. He looks 18 to me. He does, yeah, he's got a real baby thing. But I felt like he also, I think that he did a pretty good job in the movie, you know. It was definitely a slow burner. I felt like the ending was rushed for a little bit. And there was definitely some metaphors going on, but I'm not entirely sure what they were.

So it kind of left me with more questions. Well, I'll tell you guys this. When I first saw the trailers for this and then when I saw the extended one, you know, I mean, this is no big mystery. You guys know that I've been, I mentioned this as one of the two movies I was most looking forward to this year. Yeah. This one and the Star Wars movie, were my two most anticipated. movies of the year.

And I didn't have any reason to have a lot of faith in Gore Verbinski because I didn't really care too much, except for the ring, which we all agreed was really good. You know, I didn't care too much for his other stuff. You didn't like the Long Ranger? And, yeah, Dane behind, I was kind of like with you, Brian, I was like, you know, this kid's just kind of like a little douchebag. You know, I didn't really feel like giving him too much of a chance. but when I saw Jason Isaacs was going to be in it,

and when I saw Mia Guth, and I didn't know what her name was at the time, but, you know, I had recognized her from some other roles she'd done. And after having seen Dane DeHan in this role, man, I'm kind of turning into a believer. I thought they all put in really good performances. Yeah. They definitely had to set up for it to be a really good movie.

Look, man, you're right. Were there gaping plot holes? Absolutely. Were there scenes in there that just didn't quite make sense? Like when he was standing there watching the... This is real early in the movie, so this is not a big spoiler, but like he was standing there watching a body being burned, but I wasn't quite sure who it was because of where it fell in the movie. I think I kind of figured it out later when they sort of brought everything together at the end.

But it was really disjointed in... certain places and it wasn't incredibly well edited. And they definitely, like you guys said, for a two and a half hour of movie, they should have covered everything. And it was really obvious that there were some scenes missing, you know? But as far as the visual style of the movie, as far as the acting, and you guys are probably, or many people I already know disagree with me, because once I saw the movie, I started reading opinions on Facebook and stuff.

A lot of people didn't like the ending. I love the ending, personally. And I didn't see it coming, and I really thought that the way they tied it together, it kind of turned it into a completely new movie in a way. And I really appreciated that. But, I mean, I had a lot of fun. From start to finish, I enjoyed the visuals.

Some of the creepiest most fucking hair-raising moments in film to me or kind of like, for example, my favorite American Horror Story season was Asylum, and I really love the movie Jacob's Ladder. There's a particular scene in that, that if you've seen that movie, you'll know what I'm talking about when I equate it with things that happened here.

And I really love Cronenberg and body horror and all that. And that's, if anything really scares me and gets to me, it's that. So I really fucking enjoyed this movie a great deal. Yeah, definitely has. And to me, it was just like, you know, It wasn't the roller coaster ride that like, you know, the Conjuring 2 was or something like that, but it was a slow burn. I think that, again, like you guys said, if there is a director's cut, I think it'll probably be an improvement because it'll fill in a couple of gaps.

But, yeah, yeah, you'll probably be like four hours long. Yeah, you know what? I'll sit through it. As a matter of fact, I'm ready to go see. This is the second movie this year, only the second one this year that I've seen that I actually want. to go back and see again. And believe it or not, the first one was what I was really fucking dreading,

which was Resident Evil Final Chapter. As soon as I finished that movie, I was ready to see it again. Same thing with this one. I really enjoyed it, guys. Well, you said movies that you're ready to go back and see again, John Witt. Oh, John Witt.

I'm going to see her right now. Yeah, that's true, man. That's true. That would be up there as well. I mean, that's definitely got some serious rewatchability, no doubt. Yeah, well, I was going to say, don't get me wrong, I like this movie.

I just thought for the amount of time that went by in this movie, there was things that I felt like they should have focused on. And I didn't get that. Yeah, fair enough. I hate to dwell on the bad because it's not even necessarily that it was bad. It was that it was such a good setup, you know. Mm-hmm. And there's a whole lot of mystery.

do it. You don't know what's going on. One of those kind of things. You're sort of learning as the character is learning. And I just felt like when they wrapped it up, like they spent all this time setting everything up and then they racked it up. Instead of like going down a

low slope where they went up this giant hill, they just kind of jumped off a cliff. Yeah. Okay. That's a great way to put it, man. That's a good way to put it. But I kind of enjoyed that jump off the Cliff. Yeah.

I really did. I liked the way they tied it all together. Like, I feel like it was like two different movies and they just got it. And that's what I liked about it. Because I was not expecting that.

In fact, there's a big scene in the middle. There's a big scene in the middle that we got to talk about in spoilers because it's pretty far into the movie. But not only was I not expecting that, but I fucking love that scene. Because I thought everything was going to take place

in this one particular area. And when it went out side of that area, man, that got me going. But, you know, we'll talk about that later. Okay, cool. Yeah, I mean, there's still little spoilers.

Yeah, I think we're all kind of waiting to get into spoilers here. Do it, yeah, because there's definitely some spoilers. This is definitely a conversation. Okay. Okay, I think I went first. I am going to for right now,

because now that you guys have brought it up, I do kind of want to go back and watch this again. For right now, I think I'm going to give it a seven and a half. Wow, that's a great score, man. Yeah. Like I said, I don't really have a lot of problems other than, like I previously stated, that for the two and a half hours, there shouldn't have been anything glossed over. And besides, I'm still not, like I said, I'm still not sold on Dane to Han,

but Jason Isaac and Mia Gauth, I am. sold on these two. I really didn't care about Susperia. Sorry if anybody's out there that's big fans of the movie, but now that I've seen her really fully in a movie, because I've seen her, I think, in one other thing and didn't really remember her, but after this, I am definitely looking out for that movie.

And for right now, I'm going to give it a tentative, like, seven and a half. It might go up. Hey, that's totally fair. I'm going to give it a seventh. I enjoyed it. I thought it was really fun. I had some of the same issues that you had, Brian. It was a great setup, and I feel like it kind of, I want to say it fell apart at the end,

but it was like they ran out of budget or ran out of time or something. There's something missing at the end that didn't like. Okay. Well, I didn't find that to be the case at all. I found the ending to be like almost, like, probably my second favorite part of the movie. But there were definitely big chunks of story missing throughout, and there were definitely a couple of plot holes in there that, you know, maybe should have been a little bit better written.

Maybe in the hands of a slightly more experienced writer would have been a little smoothed over. but yeah i want to get into those too yeah i'll tell you what all in all um i really i really enjoyed it it's it's not the movie i was hoping it was because this could have for me from from what i saw and what i was expecting this could have been my arrival this year and that's what i was truly expecting to walk into

but at the end of the day i'm still going to give it a really high score i'll give it an eight i'll give this movie an eight an eight out of ten, and like I said, I'm ready to go see it again, and I'm really hoping for a director's cut. Yeah, it definitely, definitely had a lot of... All right? Spoiler time, right? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. Okay, I'm going to jump way further into the movie to the scene were Dane Dahan's in the dental chair. Right. Okay.

That's where I really, because there was a couple small, minor parts in the movie where I'm like, okay, they did some cuts here and there. But that one, you go from him, which that scene with the drill and him getting his tooth drilled, that was excruciating for me right there. Oh, I love it.

I was totally squirming in my scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. very well done. It went from him finding out what's going on to them suddenly becoming fucking crazy. You know? Yeah. And then...

It was such a... Such a flip from what had happened in the beginning of the movie. Yeah. And then from him in the dental chair, it went from that to he jumped in the back of that car. And I really, I was confused because he had two... I thought that too.

How the fuck did he get out? Yeah, because he had two guys holding him down plus he was strapped into the chair. Right. So he got out of the chair. He fought three guys and he made it to the car. And I'm like... Which just happened to be there.

Yeah. Even though he asked for a car earlier and they never brought it. Yeah. Which there was just some scenes that near the end, I just felt like they cut out some things that I just really wanted to... I don't know. I thought would have been better left in. And there was a lot of stuff with Jason Isaac that I wanted more of his backstory because when he reveals that he's the Baron and he takes it.

Matter of fact, rewind, go back further. When Dana Hahn finds all those faces in the water, the jars or whatever. Yes. Oh, yeah. I kind of wanted to know, was he creating these things or was he taking us? or was he taking other people's faces? You know, what was the... I was curious about that, too.

Yeah, that's a good point. And it never really did explain it, huh? Yeah. Lance, you want... Yeah, they're reached... I think their reach exceeded their grasp a little bit, you know? I mean, they... I think they tried to tell a story

that really needed to be told, like, over... You know, like over a 10-episode season or something. You know? Yeah, I felt... The whole time I was watching that, so I was like, man, if this... was a TV series, it would be

fucking phenomenal, huh? Yeah. I got the feeling, guys, that, that, that, uh, in order to get this down to, two, two and a half hours, they had to cut at least half an hour out.

You know? Yeah. Because scenes like that, like what you were talking about, Brian, that was just fucking jarring, dude. That,

that, that really threw me off, man. And that's the kind of thing that got me down from like a nine or a nine and a half down to an eight, because I really wanted this to be, like a nine movie. And it was

such a good scene with the drill because I like, like Phillips said, I was squirming in my chair. I was like, ah. Very good. The next minute he sold it, man. Both. Yeah, and then the next minute he escaped. And I'm like, what, what happened? Yeah. How did that? How did you do that?

Yeah. Well, and then at the beginning of the movie, they had such great like cinematography, right? Where they have like the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the on the side of the train where you see like a reflection of everything and the train. Beautifully filmed.

Beautifully filmed. Yeah. Absolutely. And then there's like the fish eye lens from the from the like the stuffed head of the deer or whatever. Right. Yeah. I mean there's so many of those and

especially in the beginning part of the film that are just that are great and just set it up to be an awesome movie. Right. And then you know again towards the end of it it's like i felt like they just there were there were pieces that were missing and they didn't take that same loving care that they did in the beginning of it in the end of it instead of a super creepy slow burn weird movie that they had going on the end of it turned into really like a crazy sapphire war it it became very rush but you know what you know what i liked about

a couple of things that i liked about a couple of things that i liked about that ending because I really want to talk about that. I love the way that they kind of turned everything on its ear. Now, you guys said you saw that coming. I, in no way, former fashion, did I see that coming until it happened? I mean, of course they kept

alluding to it and telling you that this happened 200 years ago. But my God, you want to add an extra creep factor to Jason Isaacs? You know, I mean, it's bad enough to want to have sex with your sister. And I was trying to rape his own daughter.

My God, this dude sold it too, didn't it? He was really good. Yeah, that scene at the end when he's basically going to rape his daughter. Yeah. That's when I had to look up her age because it creeped the shit. Because he tore her dress open. He did the thing where he was smelling his fingers. Man, I was right.

Man, that was rough, huh? Yeah, that was super rough. Yeah, and it did what it was supposed to do. Yeah, that's true. And I'm glad my wife was there because she actually explained a part of the movie that I think I probably wouldn't have understood because there is a scene where Jason Isaac, he kind of regretted Dane DeHan's character for being there and interacting with her. But because of his interaction, he was grateful. Okay.

And I didn't understand what he was talking about. and then she was explaining to me the scene where she went into the bathroom at the bar and the girl who was on her period and the trash can basically looked like a murder scene. My wife was telling me basically what he was thanking her for when we figured it out that he was trying to have sex with her. Women can start their period when they're around other women on their period. Oh, wow, that is true. Yeah, so. Yeah, they definitely jumped started it, I thought. So, um...

Wow, see, that adds another layer to the movie. Yeah. Okay. And that, see, that, that is the scene that I thought was so awesome was when they, when those two got out of the asylum and they made it down into the town. And those, those fucking characters. But now that you say that, dude, I was loving that scene as it was, but you just added a whole other dimension to it, man. Yes. Yeah.

This is a... Okay, well, see... This movie wants to be a brilliant. brilliant film. This movie wants to be one of the classics. But that scene even was a little bit uncomfortable for me because of the actress, because I felt like... Very uncomfortable. For a chick who has apparently

been around for, you know, 200 years. Mm-hmm. And she looked like she was... Maybe pre-pubes, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, almost did. You're right. Both of them had that baby face. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, she had a baby face like she was like maybe 15. And he had a baby face like he's probably a little closer to 30.

And it was creepy. I didn't, I thought, I didn't get that at all. I thought this, I thought this kid was like 18 years old, man. And as one of the, she was a big rig of a New York stock market place. Yeah, I mean, well, that's, that goes back to what you guys were. saying or what Brian said earlier. It didn't, it, it didn't make any sense. It felt a little weird for him to be in that position. But, you know, the way he was drinking and chewing the Nicorette gum and everything, you could tell he was, he was, he was one of those guys that all he cared about was at that point was making it in the business. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Or, you know, how early he did it. He just wanted to make it. And a lot of that had to see what happened to his father. the young buck at the big table, you know what I mean? Yeah, that too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and he clearly, he clearly, from what they alluded to,

he might have made it up the ladder super fast because he, I think they alluded, he did something illegally. Oh, they didn't. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. He fucking cooked the books.

Yeah, they didn't. So. But either way, he's, he's an adult man. And, and he, he seemed to be almost romancing this

okay so I felt like you know this guy is definitely a young but he's still an adult man you know and I felt like this girl was you know maybe 15 max and I thought it was weird that he seemed to have

an almost romantic interest in her and then he takes her down to the town and buys her a beer and all that stuff and I don't know I felt like she went from this 12 year old little girl to a woman over the course of

you know 20 minutes in this movie but she had been alive for 200 years before that like even even then I mean she was having her first period I was like scowler was just buying her beer you know

and uh it was it was a little uncomfortable because she she was kind of I don't know if she's actually that young. I mean, Brian, you probably know better because you actually looked it up because it was so uncomfortable. Yeah, she was super young. She is actually 23. Okay.

Well, that makes me feel a little bit better because, I mean, there were a lot of scenes in this movie where I was like, oh, man, I got to like watch the fucking grime off. That was there. Hey, dude. You know what, then? Mission accomplished, because that's a big part of, I think, what this movie was trying to do. Yeah.

It was makes it really fucking uncomfortable with that, and it, you know. Yeah, there was definitely some uncomfortable parts. You were saying you didn't see it coming. They mentioned that her mother died in a fire, and I felt like that. Ah, okay. Yeah. I was like, I didn't really catch that.

A daughter of, you know, the baronet. Yeah, but to me, it was a revelation to find out he was actually the baron that he'd been around that long. And so I guess what they were doing is they were, you know, it's an age-old story, right? Just like vampires or witches who cook the fat of babies to live forever or whatever. You know, it's like these people that are supernatural beings that are feasting off the life energy or the life force of other people to stay alive forever, right? See, there's some of the scenes that I think that maybe they had cut out, or they didn't go as in depth as they probably should have, because I didn't understand the concept of what exactly they were doing. You know? I mean, I get the gist, but I wanted to know specifically what was happening and why is this guy 200 years old.

Is everybody in a town like that? Because of the top down in town. I don't think of the vitamin food, right? I don't think all of them. Mm-hmm. Because I think, because going back to the bar scene, when he had walked in in middle of the fight, everybody instantly got scared of him. Right.

Because you noticed everybody kind of like looked down at the ground. Yeah, so I don't think everybody, I think they knew who he was, but I don't think everybody was taking the stuff. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, the townspeople, yeah, that's why they were so afraid of the people up on the hill because they knew what they were. Basically, he was Count Dracula. Yeah, because I think...

I think the one dude died. I mean, they didn't show it, but the veterinarian. I think he died when you seen Jason Isaac with the file in his hand. Yeah, when he knew that he... Yeah, and how fucking... Can we go into our stupid people here? Yes. I mean, Brian, correct me if I'm wrong,

but how fucking stupid to have the... the, you know, the cow's blood all over your hand, and then you grab the fucking file and leave your fingerprints and your blood on. Oh, and that scene with the, when he sliced open the cow, I was like, oh, my gosh. Oh, that was rough, man. But then my wife was like, yeah, my wife was like he had to do it because he was trying to show him why he had to put the cow down.

Because the first thing I said was that, that's not the most humane way to put down a cow, but she was like, He had to show him because he mentioned that he got too close and was drinking the water. Right. And you can see the little eels like rolling around inside the fetus of the cat. Oh, man. That was a rough scene, man. Like that was uncomfortable, but in a way better way.

It adds a whole new meaning to don't drink the water. Yeah. There was so much. there was a lot of naked old people in this movie. There was a lot of naked old people. I was thinking the whole time, I was like,

so is the only reason this movie is already because of that one effing weird masturbation scene that happened? Oh, that was fucking hilarious. It was hilarious, but it was also. It was hilarious,

but it was also disappointing because I did not expect her boobs to look like that. Right. I know, me too, because she walked me in And I was like, oh, she's got some nipples poking through that shirt. And then she unsit them.

And I was like, that's not what I expected. Not too much there, huh? Hey, let me ask you guys a question because this is one thing I never, I don't think I've totally quite put this together. You know, like I said, this is one, I need to see the movie again for sure. But, all right, so the guy at the very beginning who looked a little bit like Peter Weller, I kind of thought that was Peter Weller at first. Okay. The old man who was working late in the office there that died of the heart attack?

Yes. Oh, right. What was that all about? Now, where did he fit into the whole grand scheme of the story? What did I miss? I don't know. They kind of brought his name up when the guy, Penbrook, he said, I thought they would have sent him instead. Right.

Like, he was Pennbrook's buddy or something. And then the next best thing was. I don't know. there was a lot of questions with the head executives and stuff. Yeah. My wife for a minute thought they were a part of the spa. Like they were taking the stuff too or something. Right.

Oh, okay. But that didn't happen, which I'm very disappointed that the one, the old lady, didn't get punched at the end. Which is she? The one that was from the one of the executives, the bitchy one. Oh, that's. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That asked him, has he ever had a 12-inch black dick up his ass? Yeah, yeah. That was a hilarious line, man. Which is pretty good. I was like, wow. Yeah, for a minute there, I thought they had. It obviously has.

For a minute there, I thought they had some involvement in it because they were very kind of ominous and creepy themselves. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I felt like the. reason that he was there and got stuck there was a little course now that I'm thinking about it. I mean, and I thought about it while I was watching it too, because I mean, when shit started going south, I mean, especially this this douchebag who is super entitled showing up and telling people how things are and how things are going to be, I don't think he would have just been along for the ride. I feel like he would have been more of, uh, No, this is what's happening.

Oh, you're not going to go get me a car. Fuck you guys. I'm going to go walk. You know, something like that. And weird shit starting to happen, and I don't think he would have stuck around to see what was up. Okay, hey, let me ask you guys this. Kind of early in the movie,

when he first came in contact with the dude that left the company, that he was trying to get to come back to the company? Yeah. Okay, so he's in there and the guys like, you know, totally blank-faced. Like, you know, one of the zombies, one of the people there that doesn't want to leave. And he's like, you know, why would I leave? I have no desire to go. Why would anyone want to leave?

And then he went under the water for a certain amount of time. And then he popped back up out of the water. And he said, so I guess I need to be responsible and go back. What caused that change in him, do you guys think? I don't know. I thought it was a different person almost. Like they were making clone at first. Yeah, again, there was so many things to be explained.

like the scene where he told everybody that the Jason's Isaac was making everybody sick and everybody started standing up he was like yes get up everybody

get up and they started like walking up they were going to be zombies yeah yeah they kind of were living zombies basically that's what I kind of wanted more of because he ended up for

for a second like that and I was like is it is it because he's going through this thing where they're draining him of his whatever fluids or whatever they're? Yeah, I think so. But why when he went under the water and held his breath? Was it maybe because he cut off the oxygen to his brain for a little period of time? And then his regular thoughts came back.

I didn't get that part. Again, I thought something might have been missing. I didn't either. Yeah, that is a good point because I'm replaying into my head. He basically, he came back out of the water, a completely different person. completely different person, ready to go. Right. I thought the same thing. And then, you know,

when I saw him floating in the water later on in the movie and he's behind that glass or whatever, I didn't know if it was, you know, had he been there that whole time and they just got this like clone up him in his third making? I guess so. And then like, you know, on your

thing. Oh, no, I don't know about clone. What the fuck? That was one of the ideas that popped into my head. See, they could have done this kind of movie. They could have done so much more with this, you know? Right. This needed to be a 10 or 13 episode TV series. When they got up and started walking towards him,

when he was telling everybody to get up, he's making you sick, which they probably should have realized in the first place. Right. Right. They're falling out. I was speaking, you know, maybe, maybe there's this zombie virus, and that is what they're trying to do. They're trying to work.

Yeah, I don't know, because for a minute there, I thought maybe they were drugging them with something that was making them compliant. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's what you thought at first. Yeah, but going back to that scene when everybody stood up and then walked towards him and started grabbing him, like, he was the only one talking.

So I don't know how they were being compliant to anybody else, you know. It's true. I don't know, man. It's just, and then at the end, when they were all dancing, when the place was burning down, it's like they just didn't have any of their brains left, basically, you know? everything had been sucked down. Severe dehydration, I suppose. Yeah, dehydration not only of liquids,

but like it was dehydration of the soul or something, you know? What was up with the very end when he was riding the bike with the girl? And just started smiling. Right, yeah. I think he was just really crazy. He ended up really crazy a little bit. I do too. Oh.

I do too. I think with everything. I think with everything that had happened, it might have just slightly pushed him to that edge to where he's just lost a little bit of his mind. Right. I was looking for some sort of metaphor in there about maybe our medical system or something like that. Okay. I mean, yeah, there's tons of metaphors about the medical system, about the rich feeding on the poor, about all that stuff, man. Yeah.

Have you guys read about the controversy with this? movie? No, not at all. With the advertisements that they took out with the fake news stories. Sort of. Tell us about that, man. Yeah, I didn't read a whole lot, but I guess they got a lot of backlash. They were advertising this movie with fake news stories.

Like, one of them would be about Trump and the Russians. Yeah, you're talking about the Super Bowl ad. Yeah, and another one was basically saying Lady Gaga's performance was a tribute to Muslims. and... What? And I guess, I don't know if it was today or yesterday, they had to publicly apologize. Really?

Yeah. Damn, that adds a whole new, a whole new layer to it, huh? Yeah. It's a weird fucking movie, man. No. I mean, I still like it. It's just there's so many unanswered questions.

Yeah. Lance, I think you're, you hit it on the head where this, if this was a series. Oh, yeah. I think it would have been amazing. And they put it in a full season and just wrapped everything up in a nice little bow by the end of it. I would love it. It would probably be one of my favorite series the whole time.

As a two-and-a-half-hour movie, I felt like they didn't give me enough, which in a two-and-a-half-hour movie is weird to say. That's long. Yeah, especially for a horror movie, right? I mean, most of the movies we see are an hour and a half or less, right? I don't want to say about it. I will say that it's definitely the,

in my opinion, it's the most important film that's come out yet this year, for sure. What I was going to say was this movie definitely, when you left the theater, it had you talking, it had you talking about it. That's what I was thinking. This is, it's a good conversation piece movie.

And it's, just because there's a whole, lot of questions that need to be explained and there's a lot of imagery and metaphors that Oh, for sure. All kinds of different things

because they don't go in depth on it and know specifically what they're talking about. Well, like I was telling AJ, when I got home, I told her, look, I think you might actually enjoy this movie, you know, because she normally hates horror movies.

I mean, granted, there were a few like, you know, grisly images in here. But this wasn't your typical horror movie. I think she would have really enjoyed the kind of fairy tale aspect of it. Yeah. If you like Shutter Island, fairy tale.

If you like Shutter Island, this is a good movie for you. Yeah, it's funny you would say that. See, my wife, she doesn't do horror movies either. And there was there was a couple scenes, like, the masturbation scene. Right. I thought she was going to look at me, like, what the fuck are we watching?

What the fuck are we watching? But as the movie was going, she leant over and she was like, I'm getting a Shutter Island fill right here. Yeah. She thought she thought he was going to wake up at the end, day dawn. Ah. Yeah. He was at the spa the whole time or one of those things. Well, you can tell it was definitely going to be some sort of place.

But she left. Yeah, she left and she also liked it. Mm-hmm. But her same problem was it was a little too long. and there was some things for her that she kind of was like not understanding and I told her well those same

same problem with me I felt like I didn't understand it because I felt like they cut a scene out or two that probably would have explained it better I would agree with you man yeah yeah Brian you you you called out the golden one right there man when you talked about him getting into that car

that was definitely the most jarring poorly edited part of the whole movie yeah I really get the feeling the studios were breathing down their neck saying, look, you've already got this fucking thing at two and a half hours. If you add all this other shit that you really think needs to be part of the story, you're going to be over three hours. We just can't sell tickets to that, guys.

But that scene needed to be in the movie because he is a frail little guy. I don't see how he got away. Something happened. Well, the problem is. He's not that frail because he ripped a whole goddamn, and toilet off the wall, which made no fucking that was amazing, too. I was like, what happened to Superman over here?

Right. Can I say, the whole goddamn, okay, the first time the handle started jiggling, I mean, maybe I'm more of a mechanically inclined type of dude. You wouldn't have opened the fucking thing and looked. I probably wouldn't take him the cover off of it. Can I, I just...

What's what are you doing? It's not going to the fucking window. I just thought of something. I just thought of something. I just thought of. I just thought of something How I just thought of something

How How long before you go Before you realize your leg's not even broken I mean Was that a cast? Yes Maybe it would get uncomfortable at some point I mean

I don't know It just when he realized that Possibly his leg's not broken He was in no pain Throughout the movie Due to his leg True Bothered you a little bit, huh?

Yeah, I was, I was willing to buy that a little more than his reasons for staying there. I felt like that was, that was a little, like you had to kind of take the film. It wasn't really believable in real life. But, you know, I mean, it's a movie. Sometimes you got a job passes a whole referral. Well, hey, I do, I do kind of like the way they set it up, guys, because basically he had the ultimatum where, you know, you're fucking on the fast track. They were passed around the champagne at work and stuff, and everybody thought, okay, you're the next golden boy, you're going to be the next partner.

And then they call him in there. And I thought that was great leverage that they used. Like, basically, you either go get this motherfucker out of there and bring him back and make him the scapegoat or you're fucked. Your career is done. So I think that's what kept him going back when the rest of us would have said, I'm fucking out of here. Well, you don't think maybe he would have checked him with his company a little earlier than that? But they were like To, remember?

He called them. But actually, when he did get a hold of somebody, he actually, wasn't he told that they were going to, they were going to put something on, or pin him on something? I think they threatened. I'm not sure exactly what they said,

but I know he was suddenly real surprised that these pretty people in the random spa in the top of a mountain in Sweden didn't actually call somebody in the day. Yeah. Surprise, the point. fucking prize.

Surprise, motherfucker. Shit, all right, well, I mean, it's a deep movie, guys. There's a lot going on. We could probably talk for another hour, easy. Yeah, this is easily probably the most talked about movie we've done in any episode.

Right. Because they leave enough stuff on the table to talk about. Well, it was definitely good. It was interesting. It kept my attention. Anybody, any of you guys, either of you guys have any idea how it's

doing at the box office? Because I've got the feeling it probably ain't doing really well unfortunately. Last time I checked I think it's doing poorly. That's what I was afraid of. Even that fucking Drek, the Great Wall, is probably doing better than this, huh? Yeah.

Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, I knew they were pushing the Great Wall a lot more than this one. The numbers are not in for it. I know it only made for the first night. It only

made 1.5 million. That's not good. Not a good sign. It's definitely better than the Great Wall. I'll tell you that right now because I saw the Great Wall. Oh, you saw the Great Wall? I saw it. And it's not my cool week.

It's not that great. It was okay. I just feel like it's... I felt like it was going to bottom off. Like, man, I don't know. The Great Walls already made $230 million. Holy shit. Most of that.

Most of that's foreign. Well, let's just hope that a director's cut comes out. That's all I have to say. And we'll leave it at that because there probably will not be a cure for wellness too. And I'm okay with that. You know, I think the... Oh, yeah, me too. You know, good movies or good movies, whether they make a whole lot of money or not.

True. Will it go down as a classic? I don't know. but it was definitely worthwhile. I think eventually with a director's cut, it could end up being a cult classic. That's what I see, kind of a cult following. Kind of like, well, I'm not going to compare it to anything yet.

I was about to say something, but I'm biting my tongue. We'll just wait and see what happened. Like I said, I gave it an eight. I mean, I think you guys gave it, what, seven and seven and a half, so we all enjoyed it. End of story. All right. And as always, we want to thank you guys for listening

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Rate us and review us on iTunes. We want to go on numbers up. What's that? No more ice makers. That's right. So next week should be pretty cool. Actually, this is one I wasn't that excited about when I saw the trailer the first time. And what do you guys said this too?

I think it was you, Brian, or was it you? I can't remember. Who said that they were more excited about Get Out now than they were at first. Oh, that was me. Yeah. Yeah. It looks super interesting.

I wasn't really impressed with it on the first trailer that I saw, but the more that I want to get more excited about it. What about you, Brian? I think I don't know if it was a new trailer or if it was just a clips released online, but the whole brainwashing hypnotism thing really has me intrigued. definitely. Got a great cat. Yes, it does.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, guys. So get out, and also we're going to do the Stepford Wives from 1975. So, Brian, until the horror returns again, good night.