The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #381: Killer Nun (Suor Omicidi) (1979) & The Nun II (2023)

Episode Date: September 17, 2023

It's finally here! Brian and Phill discuss the new Nun movie and the Italian horror classic (?) Killer Nun (Suor Omicidi). The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

One and all to the horror returns. I'm Philip. And with me, as always, is my co-host, Brian. I don't know if this is as always, because Lance is not here. He's normally our host, but he decided to leave us and go hang out in Hawaii. Yeah, I didn't even know he was going to Hawaii. He decided he was going on a trip. I didn't realize it either.

My wife said something. I was like, wait, he's going to Hawaii? What the fuck, man? Yeah, I didn't know until I seen a picture here. some tropical drinks and food. Ah, there you go. Hey, might be a good idea right now. You know, they're all burned up, especially go visit the big island.

Yeah. And stay in the hotels, man, because that's where a lot of these people work, and they're having a hard time right now. Yeah. But, yeah, I think we got this, man. How's going? That's going. A little late on starting here.

I had some technical difficulties. I think it's time for a new laptop. I like every other day. There's always some bullshit going wrong. What's going on with you? Oh, not a whole lot, man, dealing with kids stuff. And we got football and soccer and possibly swim if we can fit it in. I don't know.

We'll see how that's going to go. And, you know, just working a lot. but let's go into Cool of the Week. What do you got for us? I can go through mine real quick. I had to watch it, just so I can see what all the hype is. I saw the Barbie movie. Oh, yeah?

Wasn't it good? It's okay. I mean, I'm not, it's not my, I'm not the demographic for it. I did get the humor. There was a lot of humor that would probably go over kids. his heads. Ryan Gosling was pretty fucking good as Ken. He had me laughing a few times.

I kind of like that guy. It's like a comedy slash musicals slash fantasy. It's all the things Lance enjoys because I know he watched it too this past week. I was going to say he kind of had me until he said musical. Yeah.

But it was fine though. I didn't hate it though Yeah I'd heard so many conflicting things And then it just sort of seemed Because I was kind of curious about this movie when it first came out But it just sort of seems like hey maybe it's It's all right Yeah I mean it definitely knows what it is

Because there was a line where Because it has a narrator throughout the movie And there was a line where Margot Robbie plays the She plays stereotypical bar That's what they call her. Oh, I got you. And she's, I don't want to go into the reasons why,

but she feels like she's losing her stereotypical good looks. And then the narrator comes over and says, note to studio, if you want the audience to believe she's not beautiful, you shouldn't have cast Margarabi or something like that. So it definitely knows what it is and what it's like to be. Some meta jokes in there too. I like it. Yeah.

It definitely is not going to be of my top 10. movies of the year. But I just for a movie that I think probably if it hasn't it will be the highest grossing movie of the year. I just, I had to see what the fuss was. See, if I have

to pick between Barbie and Oppenheimer, I'm definitely going to see Oppenheimer, which I still haven't seen yet. Yeah, I just went with Barbie because it was available. Gotcha. HD, so Next up.

took a look at a it's not a new horror movie so because I'm saving my new horror movies for 31 days it came out last year it's a kind of like a B horror movie creature feature called crabs it's on a screen box grabs yeah is it about 30 New York hookers no that was Frank Hooker oh yeah that's right this one's just uh Mutated crabs. Attacking like a beach front town. I didn't really care for it. Some of the practicals were pretty cool,

but I kind of don't like the, I'm a bad movie on purpose type bad movies. Yeah. I kind of like to accidentally, we tried our best and we made a shitty movie. So I didn't really, I didn't really dig crabs. but it's it's on screen box

gotcha it's not for the kids because there's they get right into a sex scene within the first two minutes of the movie no crabs for the kids okay well that makes sense but uh what else I watched did I watch any TV

oh when I said last week I still didn't know why Peacog didn't put season two a Chucky on later that night after we were done recording they put season two a Chucky on Peacock oh look at that So started watching that It's pretty good so far

I'm only like four episodes in So I don't really know where the story's going But I'm liking it so far Trying to get caught up before I think season three starts First Week of October So

I still haven't watched it at all I need to check out All first two seasons are all on Peacock And I think I think I read that season three will be next day. Each episode will be next day on Peacock. Oh, okay.

I don't think there'll be any waiting involved. But my cool of the week, I'm going to go with this new kind of raunchy comedy called Strays. Starring. Strays. It's a dog movie, and the dogs are voiced by Will Smith and Jamie Fox and a few other people. Why have I never heard of this?

Yeah, it's an R-rated dog movie. And Will Smith plays the main dog Reggie, who his owner plays a game that he thinks it's a game called Fetching Fuck, which he drops him off, somewhere far, leaves him there. He finds his way home, and then when he sees the dog's home, he says, fuck.

So the dog thinks, it's a game and his owner drives him as far as he possibly can and drops him off and then he gets lost and he meets a bunch of strays and one of them is a little Boston Terrier voiced by Jamie Fox so it's uh it's it's pretty good the comedy's raunchy if you if you own a dog you get a lot of the humor because they touch on chocolate for dogs dogs Was it like animated? No, it's live action.

Oh. But they do the thing. Why have I never heard of this? They do the thing when the dogs are talking, their mouths are moving. Oh, I got you. It was in the theater. It bombed in the theater because I don't think anybody went to see it. Yeah, I don't even remember it at all.

But Will Smith, or not Will Smith, Bill Farrow, Jamie Fox, voicing. There's a few other people. Should have had Steve Buscemi as the Boston Terrier. Their fucking eyeballs are all weird. There's one, do you know Rob Riggle? Yeah. Yeah, he plays like a police dog, like German Shepherd. Oh, that makes sense.

And one of the other dogs calls him Adolf. And he's like, I don't get it. The other dogs are like, you're a fucking German Shepherd. He was like, oh, got it now. So it was pretty funny. It's available if you know where to find it. All right. I'll have to look for that one.

That sounds interesting. Yeah, just a lot of the dog humor I got Like they did the The gag where the dog sees his reflection in a mirror And they're basically telling us what the dog's thinking at the time Who the fuck is this motherfucker right here? Exactly Yeah

So Is it completely and totally inappropriate for children? There's a lot of dog humping Oh, okay, gotcha There's a great day Dane and they keep talking about how big big his dick is. Oh, okay. All right. So, yeah.

Gotcha. But, yeah, that's pretty much all I got. All right. Well, let's see. I finished up watching Season 2 of the Bear. It's a pretty good show, man. I like it. I stuck with it.

And I didn't particularly like how season 2 ended. But it's because they sort of left you like a cliffhanger and uh i you know i guess i'm excited for the next season so i'll watch that one yeah i still got to get on that one it's pretty good pretty good and then uh when we got back from watching the nun too uh my daughter was pretty into it so she wanted to watch the first nun and i was like i really don't and so so we watched, I scrolled through some more horror movies and we ended up watching a paranormal

activity instead. Okay, the first one? Yeah, the first one. Okay. She actually watched the first one and the second one. I got distracted working on some stuff during the second one. But she was totally into them. I'm like, oh, all right, because that was kind of a slow burn.

I was like, all right, maybe she's getting into some higher level horror stuff now. So I'll have to show her Blair Witch And see if she thinks about that But I think my cool of the week Is gonna have to be the Cowboys Cowboys Boy, boy, 40 to nothing They laid us thanking on them

It was good Yeah, I played the Giants and Beat them up. Defense is awesome I hate to say it, but this is our year Because that's what we say every year. Let's hope so. Yeah, we'll see. And my kid won his football game, too.

Nice. So he's just starting. What position? He's on the line. He's right tackle. Okay. That's where my son started. Yeah.

He's getting there. He's a pretty good blocker. I just got to teach him to get some aggression into it and hit somebody. Yeah. Watching that head, because I remember that was a big problem with my son at that age. He always had his head too low. I'm like, you're going to hurt someone or you're going to hurt yourself? Yeah, that's what I keep telling him.

I was like, all right, keep your butt down and your head up, man. Put your face mask in their chest and get them. Or knock them on the ground, one of the other. But you can't just spear them with the top of your head. Yeah. But he's getting there. Cool. All right. We got any horror headlines this week, or is it just strike stuff?

We actually got a few things. Let's see. They are rebooting the Gooseump series, and it is premiering on Disney Plus Friday the 13th in October. Really? Yeah. So, Chris Mom's always thought was a good, like, Gateway Horror for young kids. Yeah, I used to read all the books, I remember. I'd totally check that out. Yeah, which I didn't even know this was Disney owned it or anything. Yeah. So there's a lot of stuff coming out in October.

This new Goosebump series, The Chucky Season 3, we get The Exorcist, new Pet Cemetery movie, Saw. What do you think about the Exorcist now that you've seen? seen a bunch of different trailers for it. I am going to go into it. I'm not going to hold it to the original one because there's no way it's going to stand up to the original one. Right. I just want, if you're going to continue the story, just make it make sense. Don't just do a whole bunch of it.

Remember this? Remember that? Member berries. Yeah. And I like the whole aspect of. two girls this time getting possessed. Because it makes me think that

there's a possibility of one of them not making it or maybe both of them not making it. And from what I've seen, the child actors, they look like they're doing a pretty good job and I'm not going to be like Lance. I'm not

going to go off David Gordon Green's Halloween ends movie and just call him a piece of shit director. because he does what you called him, Lance. I don't know, man. I'm not going in and expecting much. I hope it's good, but I kind of don't expect it to be.

We'll see. Yeah, I get that. It's kind of one of those franchises that the original was so good, and it's had so many bad sequels. Because I don't know if you ever seen any sequels. The third, Exorcist 3, is pretty fucking good. Is it? That may be the only one that I haven't seen. Yeah.

I'm sure I did when I was younger. If I'm not mistaken, I haven't seen it in a while. I think it actually picks up from the, not, or year, it's like years after the events of the first one. It's more connected to the first one than I felt like the second one was. I didn't hate the beginnings. Yeah. I thought it was all right. Even like both versions of it than they made.

Yeah, and TV series was awesome, both seasons. I thought the TV series was very good, yeah. I'm surprised it's not around. But we'll see. It got bumped up a week. So, I think it would be our first review in October. Been seeing a lot of trailers for it, so they're pushing it. Let's see.

If anybody missed out on seeing Haunted Mansion, which they probably did, because I think that bombed into theater too. It'll also be on Disney Plus October 6th. All right. Which I've heard a few people that I pretty much trust their review. They said it's not a great movie, but it's a good, if you got young kids, it's a good, like, Gateway Horror Movie. That's what it looked like, a very tame horror movie. Like, yeah, the Haunted Mansion ride is pretty awesome.

But, uh... Yeah. They said it was actually faithful to the ride. so i don't know what that means i know i know 30 seconds long and there's some ghosts but uh i haven't seen it i just been waiting you know for it to be available to watch it and it's just another another movie i to add on the 31 days yeah which that day that day's pretty loaded the 6th of october i believe is the new exorcist the new pet cemetery b hs 85 and

Blumhouse's new slasher movie Totally Killer which we'll talk about that trailer next week Yeah I was going to mention it Because I saw about half of it Because it came on after another trailer

I was watching Yeah Looks pretty good Yeah they said They said it's like if you matched Back to the Future with Scream Yeah or Happy Death Day

Yeah I think the same producer. That makes sense. It seems to be in that same vein. All right. This is a show I haven't seen, but I've heard a lot of good things. Wolf like me on Peacock will return for season two on October 19.

Now, Steve, who was on our show last week, I think he absolutely loved the first season. So, and he's a big werewolf guy. So, and I think this is a job. God and somebody else I can't go wrong with Josh Gadd, he's pretty funny one of the redheaded

actresses I don't know I can't think her name I think she has red hair so yeah there's two or three of them that look about the same let's see Lionsgate has acquired a North American rights to the Crow reboot

starring Bill Scarsgard and is expected to get a 2024 release day Bill Scarsguard as the crow. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah, I've seen a picture of him for another movie he's about to do called Boy Kills World. It's like a revenge action movie, and he's pretty jacked in that one.

So that was my main thing, like, is he just going to be, like, tall and lanky and weird-looking. Yeah. Or is he? because I was absolutely down with the original because Jason Momoa was originally supposed to be the crow. Oh, that makes sense. I could watch that. They had like scheduling conflict or something.

So you went from Jason Momoa to Bill Scarsgaard. I was like, that's a drastic difference right there. I mean, Bill Scarsgarde is probably a better actor, but he's also kind of fucking weird looking. Yeah, and then the other things, thing that kind of gets me is uh i don't know if i ever seen him do action good point because spoiler like this has got to have some action in it yeah spoiler he didn't really do much in john wick for that's good point even when they had their they're they're supposed to have their

showdown with their duel yeah like i thought he's going to get in there and mix it up they're like no, I'm going to have Dotty N do it for me. Which, I mean, if I had the choice of Donny N, you want to do it for me. Yeah. But we'll see. Let's see. A movie we recently reviewed, Veronica is getting a prequel movie due in October on Netflix called Sister Death. Which I think we talked about we didn't get enough of the blind.

none that she was talking to. Yeah. So I think it's a prequel about her. That makes sense. Somebody's listening to us. Yeah, I mean, it seems like a weird movie to jump a prequel on. I can barely even remember the damn movie who watched it a month ago. Yeah.

And the New Strangers trilogy is due to start coming out in 2024. and we're going to get our first look in October at New York Comic-Con. Okay. Which probably will just be a teaser trailer and no actors or anybody to promote it. Just a guy in a fucking bag mask? Or they'll do, like, I forgot, I don't know which football game it was at for that new movie The Creator. Or they had them people dress up like AI robots. Oh, really?

Yeah. I didn't see that. People were like basically saying this is their way of promoting the movie because they can't have the actors do it. So does have people because they're they're presenting them as if they were AI robots. But it was clearly people dressed up like AI robots. That's weird. They just paid some people in the audience. So that is all the news.

All right. Well, let's head on down to the. trailer park for a little big, weird, and small. That was probably not the right order, but you get the idea. What do we got for trailers this week? First one is a new TV series coming to Apple TV Plus called Monarch Legacy of Monsters. So that's a series and not a movie? Yeah. Okay. Huh. Let's see.

Synopsis. Set after the battle between Godzilla and the Titans revealing that monsters are real follows one family's journey to uncover the buried secrets of and a legacy linking them to Monarch and the only people I recognized in the cast are Kurt Russell in which I did some digging

playing the younger version of Kurt Russell will be his son Wyatt Russell which makes a lot of sense yeah John Giffin's in it right yeah because they're connecting that scene with the Kong Skull Island movie that he was in yeah yeah yeah

so this this is connected to those movies the recent movies coming out which it looked pretty fucking good we got a shot of Godzilla in there he looked pretty fucking it looked like movie quality effects it did yeah that's I don't know if I trust it as a TV show, but I guess if they really put some money behind this and get some good CGI stuff in there. Because I mean, that's probably going to make or break it.

Although, I mean, if they go into the backstory and explain some of this hollow earth monster thing that they have going on, I'm cool with that. Maybe they could do more with a series. Yeah, we're supposed to get more. It's not just going to be Godzilla. It's going to be multiple different creatures. So we'll get that. And I think with the backstory, getting Wyatt Russell to play younger, Kurt Russell, we can go back and see how Monarch started and what secrets they've been keeping.

Yeah, that makes sense. And it's something because the Godzilla versus Kong sequel, that also got delayed. so yeah the person where scars guard was like a scientist oh god I hated that so much I think me and des reviewed it and I think I just kept coming back to that

even if we were like talking about a completely different scene I was just like fucking scars guard was a scientist yeah that didn't make any sense at all hire the other ones one of the other ones and he just seemed like he was stupid in the movie yeah like Make him like a pilot or not the pilots are stupid, but it's not trying to say he's the smartest guy in the room when he's clearly not like it. Like somebody who's more of a badass instead of an intellectual, because he does not pull off intellectuals.

Yeah, so this is due November 17th, so not too long from now. All right. and our final trailer will be from the new upcoming holiday slasher movie thanksgiving let's see synopsis after a black friday riot ends in tragedy a mysterious Thanksgiving inspired killer terrorizes Plymouth Massachusetts the birthplace of the infamous holiday of course it is stars Rick Hoffman Gina Gershawkshire Patrick Dempsey and Addison Ray, which I guess

she's a YouTuber TikTok or something. It sounds familiar. Every time I brought her name up, my daughter rolls her eyes. Oh. And said she will not be watching this movie. And I told her she might be one of the victims

and then she was like, I'm in. So I'm not familiar with her, but according to my daughter, she's not good. Uh-oh. She's one of the cringy ones. Yeah. This is also directed and co-written by Eli Roth, which if you remember, this was a fake trailer for Grindhouse originally. Yeah. And that is, it looks fun. It looks like there's going to be some good kills.

But I thought it was going to have that grind house look, like machete or. Yeah, that would have been cool. Hovo with a shotgun or one of those movies. Huh, fake trailer for growing house. I forgot about that. But then again, on the upside, like I said, the kills look like they're going to be fun. And I remember from the fake trailer, there was a kill with a cheerleader on a trampoline doing the splits. And there was a shot.

They didn't show her getting killed, but they showed a cheerleader jumping on a trampoline. And I remember the fake trailer, and I know where that's leading to. I'll see if they go there. I yes what good would what good would a holiday season be without a schlocky horror movie yeah

and uh the the the Rick Hoffman he's he's always like the funny guy in the movies I think he was the in the trailer he was the main guy sitting at the head of the table

like the little beady out of guy so he usually brings the comedy I think he's been in Eli Ross some of his movies so I think uh

I think the humor will be there and the kills will be there. I hope so. I don't have a lot of expectations for it because it's, you know, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Well, I was going to bring that up. I mean, we don't have too many Thanksgiving theme horror movies. Yeah, well, because it's so close to Halloween. But, yeah, I mean, I guess at least it's not a Christmas.

horror movie. Yeah, we have enough of those. Yeah. So I'm hoping that it'll end up being like one of those like when Halloween comes around, you throw on trick-a-tree or Halloween or when Christmas comes around you throw

on crampus or something like that. Yeah. Well, I'm sure we'll definitely watch it. Yeah, it's on the schedule. And this is also same day as Monarch comes out November 7th. Okay. We've got some good stuff coming out then. Hopefully. Yes. There is. Oh, and for anybody that is Patreon donors that haven't submitted their movie picks yet, I'm currently making the schedule for the rest of the year because our rest of the year is going to be pretty open with all the delays. So send last your picks.

Yeah. Let us know what to watch. All right. We'll jump on into some listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on a YouTube channel. Salem Cellar, tattooed, horror-loving mom of two here to discuss everything horror and sci-fi-related. I like it. Movies, television, trailer reactions, horror merchandise, collectibles, apparel, glam, tattoos, tattoo care, etc. so she's got a little bit of everything what more could a horror fan want

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and regarding the walking dead dead city Stephen Loblad says hey Lance I don't know what you're problem is this isn't really that bad. Lance is watching all those shows. I know, even though he's in Hawaii, he watched the new, the first episode of Daryl Dixon. Daryl Dixon and Patty. Which I did kind of want to watch that first episode.

I wanted to see how he ended up in another country. This isn't really that bad. It's not exactly a ringing endorsement. So. Yes. Sounds like more like you're, I don't know. It really doesn't sound good.

Regarding Night of the Living Dead, Stephen Peek says a good classic. That it is. Regarding American horror story, Marshall Tyler says the last three seasons sucked ass. And I wouldn't know because I haven't watched the last three seasons.

That's probably why. I don't know which seasons were the last three seasons. I know whichever one was the New York one, where they tried to do like a serial killer true crime style. Mm-hmm. I tapped out in two episodes. That, there was that one season where they did it like an anthology. I kind of liked that. And then they all sort of came together at the end.

Yeah. Yeah, that was all right. which I just before we got on checked out the trailer for the new season I know it's been getting a lot of hate because I don't think a lot of people like Emma Roberts and she's back in the lead and it's got Kim Kardashian why don't we know Kim Kardashian after watching the trailer like

Kim's not going out of her way to play a non-believable character so I noticed that at first at first And then the season kind of, the trailer kind of gave me like maybe they're going for like a Rosemary's baby type scenario. Okay. Because Emma Roberts looks like she's trying to get pregnant and doesn't want to because of her career. But she has all these people around her, including her husband, kind of pushing her to get pregnant. And throughout the trailer, you got people like following her. So it kind of gave me like a Rosemary's baby where in the apartment building like all the,

tenants were kind of watching her and taking care of her and stuff like that. Yeah, it kind of gave me a creepy vibe. I don't mind Emma Roberts so much. The fact that it's got Kim Kardashian in it scares me a little. Yeah, but trust me, she's like playing like a manager to a movie star influencer or something.

Oh, I got it. It's not beyond the realm of like... That makes sense. So she's playing in insufferable bitch, but it's like in the, in the movie. Yeah. In the show. She, in that scenario, she might be really good. Yeah, there you go. Oh, yeah.

Shana Lee Holcomb says, not stoked about this season since a Kardashian is in it. Jason McMahon says, waste of time show. So people are not real excited about it, I guess. No. we'll see and you don't have like the the main actors like evan peters or sarah paulson like i know he's he's i know i read he's taking a break because i think he said doing that show like year after year like doing each those kind of characters and especially like doing dumber and stuff kind of took a toll on him mentally yeah well and he's a pretty legitimately good actor i

really like him. Like, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move on to some bigger films. Yeah, and I'm not too mad about Sarah Paulson because she was always screaming and crying. Yeah. Well, and she's also a pretty good actress and probably moving on from these shows. So there's that. Regarding the poster for three blind mice, Taco Tim Rochelle says, looks cool. Nice thing.

Taco Tim. Thanks. Taco Tim. Somehow we posted a Texas chainsaw mask or poster that seems to have gone viral. Probably Jessica Beals' big tits. Oh, okay. Anyway, Lance was able to pull out a few to read between wrapping up from work and packing for the beach. But we got John Herrera says, love it.

Leon Hugg says the best Texas chainsaw masker is the beach. beginning. Okay. Jose Marino says movie made me think Texas was a scary ass place. Amazing movie. Doug Stapola says good movie. Jesse Vasquez says really enjoyed Jessica

Beal in it. It was good. Yeah. I enjoy a couple of her scenes too. Yeah. I've always loved Jessica Bill. Luke Gully says one of the best four remakes I've seen. Donovan McSab

Says a pretty good remake Claibbe Malgrim I'm sorry dude I'm butchering your name Best remake of a horror movie ever Andrew Binyarski is great as

Leatherface Yeah but a little trivia of that he's kind of a dick Is he? Yeah because he I think he had a issue with Gunner Hansen, who was the original leather face. Oh, yeah.

And I guess he, when Gunner Hansen passed away, I guess he tweeted something like boo-hoo. So sad or something like that. Damn. People didn't really take too kindly to that. Well, Eric Morelli says I couldn't even come close to Gunner Hansen. There you go. Summer Desai says the goat Elizabeth Gabriel says

This is probably my favorite horror movie of all time The Texas Chainsaw movie with Jessica Beal Okay That's an obscure favorite horror movie Jason Hanson says the best horror remake ever And the best T-CM movie I don't know it's good but have we reviewed that one i don't know

Lance keeps saying he's going to make like a i don't know that we have reviewed that one i remember watching it yeah i know we're going to watch an amazing texas chainsaw movie next week so awesome i'm down uh Greg ross says love it better than the original hold on now comments are getting kind of crazy I know. Keith Dunn says,

damn, we had a lot of comments on this movie. Keith Dunn says, Arlie Ermi made a movie great, in my opinion, not even on the poster. Come on, rest in peace. Yeah, I don't know. On Sundays, I post a movie artists that do like, you know, movie art posters,

like their version of what they want the movie poster to be. And for some reason, this poster, I think we're almost we're like over 4,000 likes and like hundreds of comments and hundreds of shares and that's weird. Yeah.

This Texas Chainsaw Masker movie just polarizing. Yeah. I'll agree with some of the comments. I fucking like it. Yeah, I like it but it's not the best one.

Is it better than the original? I don't know. I really like Texas Chainsaw Massacre too. Yeah, I don't even hold this one above, too. Hervee Gaudin says the scariest Texas Chansaw Massacre movie. I don't know about that. Jessica Henrion says, my favorite one of all, real good. Insane fake sheriff made up his own title and occupation. That's really crazy thinking.

Joseph Sepulveda says Jessica was so hot in that. movie the best she's ever looked yeah i see why everybody likes this yeah it all comes back to jessica oh but we got a zachary acres that says doesn't hold a candle to the o g i like the way you think of zackerel bring it back to reality apparently there's a whole lot more but lance ran out of time to write it all down but thank you for everyone to for interacting with us on the facebook group yeah thank you it's an exciting place jump on there join us at the whole returns facebook group yeah real oh not

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Because it violated some kind of sexual something And I tried to like dispute it Because I'm like it's her standing there The pictures of her from the waist up Standing there with her arms cross doing the Wednesday look And I captioned it with here's your first look at Jenna Ortega's Wednesday Adams and they flagged it

pulled it What kind of crazy bot shit is that? Yeah, I personally from my Facebook account I can't like if I wanted to create ads for our show I cannot do that for the next month or some other shit that I didn't really care about but I just thought it was really fucking stupid that a picture that's been posted

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We'll start with the Killer Nun. Killer Nun. The Killer Nunn, not the Evil Nun, my bad. That's probably a different movie. Yeah, maybe. All right, so The Killer Nun. Legendary Swedish Sex Bomb, Anita Eckberg

stars as Sister Gertrude, a cruel nun who discovered Dever's Depraved Pleasure in a Frenzy of Drug Addiction, Sexual Degradation, and Sadistic Murder. I Googled some of her pictures. You should Google some of her pictures from the 50s. She was quite easy on the eyes. Well, that makes sense, because she's obviously already older in this movie, and still not bad. director is

I'm going to butcher this stuff Giulio Beruti also known for riot in a women's prison and the hallucinating trip Those are some movie titles Yep that does not surprise me Writers are the same guy Enzo Gallo and Alberto

Tarallo Anita Eckberg's voice, even though she could speak English fluently in other films, is dubbed by another actress in the English language aversion. That's all we got for the trivia. That's what we need. Yeah. What did you think about the Killer Nunn? Oh, I was kind of looking forward to this, because I was just looking up Killer Nunn movies, you know, Evil Nunn.

movies to pair with our new feature. And I kind of went into this blind. I didn't even really look at the synopsis. And then Lance just kept saying he was like, I'm looking forward to this movie after I read the synopsis. I bet he is. And then when it's a Lance movie. Yeah.

And then I started watching it. And I'm just kind of like, the fuck is going on. And then time is just going by. And it's not a long movie. Yeah. But it feels like a fucking long movie before anything really fucking happened. It's some weird gialo shit, man. And I mean, that being said, I mean, the story's pretty simple.

I mean, I believe she just, the main nun, Sister Gertrude, just had brain surgery, recovered from brain surgery, came back to work. and for some reason thinks her health is declining and no one believes her which is kind of odd that no one believes her even though she just had serious brain surgery and

everybody's just like oh shut the fuck up you're tripping is that what happened yeah because she just kept telling everybody I think my health's declining there's something wrong with me and everybody's just kind of like

oh go back to work and then throughout the movie people start getting murdered and according to the movie not according to what I saw they kept trying to lead you to believe that it was her killing all these people even though you never really see her kill anybody you just kind of when you see her kind of have outbursts it's like stupid shit like smashing old ladies dentures or like like screaming hysterically seducing another nun which that came out of nowhere that whole scene I'm sure that's the scene Lance was waiting for which was just weird and out of nowhere first of all I didn't know nun slept

butt ass naked no kidding I doubt that seriously and the other nun goes over to like comfort her and then she pushes her away and says I I like men but by the way look under your pillow and then she goes

and it's like some panty hose and she's like put them on because if I'm going to be with a woman she's going to be wearing panty hose and I'm just like what are what am I watching yeah it's a strange movie and the kills are

they're kind of ridiculous but kind of tame for this movie I mean there's a guy that gets killed with a candlestick a guy in a wheelchair after banging one of the I guess orderlies or whatever

he gets choked to death by something cotton there's like a whole five minute scene of him trying to climb up the stairs oh no all right I get it not the

not the crutches guy the wheelchair guy the guy yeah the guy the wheelchair guy he's the one that was fucking outside in the rain oh that's right he got like cotton stuffed in his mouth. Yeah, I was like, what is this? It seems like a weird way to kill somebody.

And he was banging one of the female orderlies. I was like, why did you leave him outside in the rain? And how was she okay with that? This guy was like 90 years old and in a wheelchair. How does he even do it? Well, if you see the scene before where they're having a little picnic, he's, he's like feeding her while she's like on her knees. And all these nuns are just okay with it. So. I don't, anything goes at this hospital for elderly people. He must have some money. He has something. But, yeah, it's a strange movie. The only reason I'm in this wheelchair is because my dong's too big to walk around.

Well, I don't understand. Is this a hospital or an old folks home? Because they make it seem like it's a hospital. I was confused about that too, yeah. They make it seem like it's a hospital, but you get introduced early to a guy who wakes up already in a track suit and jumps out of bed and starts working out. Yeah. I'm like, why are you here? So.

I'm Batman. Michael Keaton's Batman. But, yeah, I kind of saw the twist at the end coming. Because I knew, spoiler, well, it's a 1979. So if you get mad, it's getting spoiled too bad. I knew it wasn't her that was committing these murders because it just made a point to never show you that it was her. Yeah, you just saw like the hands. And I did like the twist of the roommate, the other nun that was her roommate that she committed, from what I understand, at least the old man that got thrown out the window, they got beat with the candlestick.

because that was her grandfather who used to molest her. Oh, all right. So that I get, but murdering all these other people, I didn't understand why. So, very strange movie. So who was the killer? The roommate. Oh, the other nun? Yeah.

Okay. For all of them? I think so. The main nun, Sister Grotry, she was on heroin throughout the movie because you find out that the roommate was stealing it for her. Yeah.

And then to get the doctor not to tell, I'm assuming she banged him too because she, his nuns were banging everybody in this movie. No kidding, man. These were like not very good nuns. Our main nuns, Sister Gertrude would like take off her nun stuff and sneak into town

and like bang strange men and drink cognac and do heroin. Had a whole sexy in the hallway that didn't make like sense anatomically? I can't. Oh, it did. I was like, wait. Seemed uncomfortable too.

How are you even in there? But I mean, I guess it fits with what I'm typically have seen before in this kind of nuns ploytation movies. Yeah. The only thing there wasn't in there, which I'm completely fine with, is rape.

I thought there was going to be some, sort of rape scene in this one and we didn't get it. And I'm completely fine with that because that's one of those things I don't like seeing in movies. Yeah, those are uncomfortable. But it, I don't know if I could find any good things to say about it because it just took a long time. There was, there was lows in between each murder. Yeah, lots of great 70s boobies. Yes.

You got to say that. Lots of bush. Yeah, lots of bush. It was a weird movie to be a nun movie. This is one where I sort of got a little sidetracked and started playing with my phone and shit, man. Yeah, me too. And so I didn't even realize that it was somebody else that killed everybody until you just said something. You explained some stuff to me.

But yeah, I can't say it kept my attention. It was definitely obscure. I had never heard of this movie before and probably we'll never watch it again. yeah I can agree and then weirdly enough like during the credits they start breaking down the events of what happened uh sister I don't even have it up here the the roommate the other nun gets arrested and then sister gertrude at the end they take her to another place with other nuns and they lock her in a cell and apparently I guess she just dies in her cell

huh and I'm like that's kind of anti-climactic they just put her and they at the end she's telling

like the main nun that's taken her away she was like give her the the some kind of special treatment you know what I mean and then they just

never show any kind of special treatment that's so weird yeah And it's an Italian movie, right? Yeah. Yeah. The Vatican's in Rome, man.

This is a little bit less. What is the special treatment? And then she looks at the nun that's in charge, and she was like, I'm holding you responsible if anything happens. If you don't do what I say, you understand what I'm saying, right? It's when I say special treatment. I'm just like, are we going to see what this is? And no, it just credits are rolling? And then in the subtitles, it's like, Sister Gertrude dies in her cell.

Like, so did you murder her? What was this special treatment? That's wild. But, yeah, I can't recommend this to anybody. No, yeah. I think if you miss this movie, it's definitely not a classic. You're not missing much. I'm not a huge fan of that Italian Gialo stuff anyway.

But, yeah, this one was... I guess a good attempt at it. Yeah, they tried to slip some in there because usually the killers like wearing black leather gloves and this one in the scene, the killer had pink latex surgical clubs on.

Yeah. Well, and then they did have some like effects where they're like cutting into a bandaged head or something and she's stabbing this guy through the eyeball or whatever. That was actually pretty cool. Yeah, that wasn't bad. That wasn't a bad scene.

But it was like they moved so slowly. Although it's 1979. It's not like they had the best special effects in the world. But they moved so slowly while they were doing it just so they could play out the special effects that they did have. I don't fault them for that. I think it was okay. And I thought the opening music was pretty good because it kind of had like an omen kind of thing going on with it. Yeah, boy, they had a lot of backup music in this thing, like through the whole thing.

They had little musical numbers. where they're just playing some real 60s kind of sound and stuff. Yeah. Like while she's walking through the street and stuff. And I was like, all right. All right. So what kind of score would you give this one? I'll give it a four.

I mean, it's not unwatchable. It's just it has no rewatchability to it. It just, it's, if you really, if you kind of, of get through the lows of the movie and are really paying attention to it you can kind of see where the story's going and then a lot of the kills are just kind of dull to me and it it kind of felt like you like you said they were kind of going for that gialo type feel with it and i'm not a big fan of gialos and only because i haven't seen a lot of them but the ones i have seen the the the kills have been kind of top-notch

compared to what we got in this movie. And then the movie just ends with subtitles saying Sister Gertrude dies in her cell. It did end very abruptly. Like, I looked up and the movie was over and I was like, what the hell happened? And it's like subtitles playing while the credits are going. I'm like, you guys couldn't even tell us what happened and then play the credits.

It's just like trying to fit everything in all at once. They ran. out of money. All right. I'm going to, I think a four is a pretty good score for that. I'm going to give it a four also. That's why I have you do it first. All right.

We'll move on to the nun two. Let's see if they can redeem themselves. In 1956, France, a priest is murdered and evil is spreading. This sequel to the worldwide smash hit Followed Sister Irene All right Followed Sister Irene As she once again comes face to face

With Valic, the demon nun They really put Worldwide Smash Hit in the synopsis I guess so Director is Michael Chavez Also known for the curse of La Erona And The Conjuring The Devil Made Me Do It

Yeah Writers are Ian Goldberg Richard Nang and Akela Cooper The movie was filmed At an actual abandoned church in France And the Nun 2 Takes four years

The Nun 2 takes place Four years after Sister Irene's First Encounter with Vallic Bonnie Aaron's Sister Irene and Frenchie aren't the only ones who have left Romania as the demon has become more powerful than ever, and it's

looking for vengeance. That was a better synopsis than the one where they talked about the original was a worldwide smash. According to the worldwide smash, hit the nun! All right, what did you think about

the nun, too? I did not like this. Yeah. I thought it was basically the same movie. Yeah. Same characters. Same dimly lid.

Can't really see anything at all because apparently nobody likes lights or candles in this movie. Yeah. And what kills me is I think Bonnie Aaron says Valik, the Nunn, I think she kills it. And she was

great when she showed up in the Conjuring movies. Yeah. And she's rarely used this movie. It's like you get glimpses of Valick here and there little jump scares and then I don't know I'll just wait to

spoilers. Which is also like the way that it's more effective is when Valick is just not right in your face beating the shit out of you or whatever but like just in the background scaring the shit out of you. Yeah I get that but this is

like the fourth or fifth movie where she's in. Yeah. I kind of want her to be in somebody's face, beating the shit out of them. Like, let's go, Bonnie Aaron's. Yeah. Let's get to work now. Taisa Farmiga, Vera Farmiga's daughter, or not daughter, sorry.

Made you kind of older than what you are, Vera. Sorry. Younger sister. I just, I don't know. I'm not really buying her in this nun role. Yeah. and then you get introduced to Storm Reed's character, which is the other nun that it just apparently just goes on this mission with her without even getting clearance.

And serves zero purpose in the movie? Yeah, just for her to say, I don't know if I believe in miracles, possibly not believe in God to an hour and 40 minutes later saying, I think I witnessed a miracle. That's her only point. and to scream and to run around. And it was a...

Like, if she wasn't in the movie at all, it would have made zero difference. Yeah. And it was a big travel movie. We got to go here to talk to this person who tells us to go here to talk to this person. Yeah, there were a lot of us to realize. For us to realize we got to go back to where we came or where we needed to go. What I saw my vision is where we should have went in the first place. To get the McGuffin.

Yeah. So it just made the movie longer than what it should be. I think outside of I thought whatever effects there are with Valic I thought look good but I did not like I'll probably wait on that and spoilers there was introduced to like another little demon creature

that I thought didn't look that great yeah maybe if they'd have done something else with it and I'm is this movie rated R because if it is I'm not too sure on what was rated R Oh, that's a good point It was rated R

Because I took the kids to see it And I just sort of assumed it was rated PG-13 But yeah, it was definitely rated R, I think Okay, at no point in the movie That I can remember I was like, well, that probably should have got an R rating No, there wasn't anything It's like at all

Yeah I mean Frenchie had sort of a weird relationship With this little girl Yeah, I'm like maybe the groundskeeper shouldn't be like having relationships with the school, the school girls, the Catholic school

girls. Yeah. But it was, it was, they took it in the best light possible. It wasn't inappropriate in the movie, but like in real life, probably not appropriate. Yeah, I mean, there was some scenes where the teacher

was like, oh, what are you two doing here? I'd kind of be like, what are you doing here, adult man with this girl? Don't kidding. In the middle of the night. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm struggling here

on finding something good to say about that. It was, to me, it was the same movie as before. They didn't really kind of move the character along. And some reveals about Taiza Farminga's character. I think her name is Sister Irene. Yeah. I think some things that revealed to her kind of made me roll my eyes. Yeah.

So I was like, this is so fucking convenient. Yeah. Oh, no, they did that a lot. There was, there was a lot of, like, conveniently placed little plot issues. You know what I mean? And definitely some plot holes in this movie. But it's kind of slow, man.

Like, I nodded off a couple times. Yeah, I mean, I mean, wood is as dimly lit as the movie was and is quiet and nothing going on. Yeah. Perfect place taken out. It was. I was trying not to.

I really was. And there was a couple of times. I was like, well, well, all right. What happened? But,

yeah, I mean, there's some things we'll get, we'll get to in the spoilers. Did you see the post credit scene? Um, I saw, was there a mid credit scene and a post credit scene?

or just the one? I think just one. Okay, yes, I saw that. Okay, we'll talk about that. And we're allegedly supposed to lead in spoilers. But yeah, I just, I mean, I hear there's people that like it. And they say it's an upgrade from the original one, more power to you, good for you.

But to me, it just gave me the same thing, which now that I'm thinking about it, I think you and me reviewed the nun. and Lance was on vacation for that movie too. Oh, did we? He's done like the Nunn movies. Yeah, so. But yeah, I took my daughter to see this one.

She loved it. I think my wife fell asleep a little bit too, but I think she in general liked it. Like, it wasn't a bad movie. No. It's just not, when you have Valic in the movie, there's high expectations, which is why the last one wasn't awesome.

And you sort of had the same issue with this one, I feel like. Is, what is his name? Michael Chavez, is he like James Wan's, like, best friend or something? I don't know. Who did he play? He's the director. Oh. And he did the last conjuring movie, which I think we all didn't really care for.

Yeah. And the curse of Lila Rona, which I think we all didn't really care for. Yeah, well, that one was definitely bad. I didn't hate the last, uh, Conjorn. movie I mean it definitely didn't hold up to the other two but is he like is he like somebody James Juan and has like 50 things on his plate and he's like I can't do it call Michael owes him some money or something hell I don't know I think I looked him up before I think before he did I think the curse of Lila Lila was his first movie and I think he

only did music videos before then oh yeah that's right I remember I remember you saying that So, I don't know. Yeah, and the curse of law, you're on, it was bad. I mean, he's working, but is he working for the Conjuring movies to be good? I don't know, because I'm kind of 0 for three with him directing movies in the Conjuremberst. Definitely. Although the Conjuring universe is getting so big at this point, I don't honestly expect much when a new one comes out, unless James Wan is actually directing it. well i know all the

the side you know they were making all these spin-off movies with all the the crooked man and all these characters i think they all like said they're not doing all that now oh they all fizzled out okay yeah that's probably a good thing all right

let's do scores and spoilers what's your score for this one it's not bad the direction was pretty good I didn't have a problem with anybody acting it's just nothing happened for long periods of times I think Bonnie Aaron's was underused as

Balik and yeah I just felt like I got the same thing I got before which I did kind I was kind of looking forward to this because I just heard people that got to see early screenings of it was like

this is pretty good actually you know I probably should have noticed the actually part. It's actually pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And I just got the same thing that I got before. And even the mid-creditor and post-credit scene or whichever when it came, it didn't even get me excited for what's to come in the Conjuring universe.

No. I found myself going, when is this movie going to be over? This is never a good sign. so four four out of ten four uh I want to give it a

five because I feel like that's probably where it belongs at a five but even though I just said that you know halfway through the movie I was like all right well

it was actually towards the end of the movie I was like all right can we can we let's move it along I got places to be um yeah I'm not sure if I'm convinced with

Sister Irene I think I'm going to have to see her do some other roles that are not this and see how she does with those. Yeah, because the only thing I know her from is American Horror Story. Oh, was she an American Horror Story? Yeah, she's I know her

was she on more than one season? I know she definitely was on the first season. She was like the daughter of the daughter of the family that bought a murder house. Oh, really? Yeah, that's her. Oh, okay. Well, I don't remember not liking her then. Yeah.

And I don't hate her here. I just, it's sort of a cheesy character. Yeah, because they kind of play with this, like, I know they did in the original. I probably should have rewatched the original one because I totally forgot certain characters were still around. Me too, but I didn't want to Yeah, I didn't either

But they kind of played around with her whole Like Conflict of wanting to be a nun or not Yeah Which I think they kind of did at times in this movie And it just kind of Went nowhere with it Yeah

And then at the end She's conveniently This and that happens I'm just like, oh wow, who cares Yeah That was, it was almost another McGuffin. Yeah. All right.

Spoiler talk. All right. I'm going to jump to the conveniently, this and that shit I just was talking about a second ago. The whole, she's related to the nun that gave the power to the archer. artifact, which gives her powers. Yeah. Just, I don't know. For some reason, I just like, what the fuck ever?

I don't care. They did shit a lot in this movie. It was like, how can we get from this point to this point? I'll just write it in. And apparently she's super powered because she gets set on fire, which she can't be burned. Well, because that's what they said about the saint. what's her face that got yeah that was convenient when val like tried to set her on fire yeah and then i don't know all of a sudden she has jesus powers yeah she instead of turning uh water to into wine

she turns wine into jesus blood yeah which defeats valacos it's like the blood of christ i'm like how how and why and how did you know how to do all this Well, that's that's that that that almost made a little bit of sense. I mean, it was convenient that they happened to be in a cellar full of wine. But when they do the the blood and body of Christ, it's a prayer that said for the wine and the and the crackers. And then like I said, I probably should have rewatch the first one because when that guy French he shows up, Yeah. Like, didn't you die at the end?

And then the movie did a flashback. And I'm like, oh, thank you movie. Yeah, no kidding. I thought that too. Which he, I'm not understanding a lot of these, like, possession movies. Like, when someone gets possessed and they beat the shit out of their own body and have the bones crack in and the neck crack in and stuff. And then when they're exercised or whatever, they're, like, perfectly fine.

I know, man. like I can't I'll wake up in the morning I feel worse than they look yeah I've been sitting in this chair for over an hour my back's gonna feel as soon as I get up but this guy was back doing landscaping like the next day yeah like fucking tomatoes nuns couldn't even give him a day off I mean he was just possessed and then um the gargoyled demon or the goat demon thing yeah that was cronner i didn't like that yeah i it felt a little out of place especially since it was happening at the same time that they were in the basement with valick yeah how does that work is this another demon

maybe it's in the the warren's little room where they lock all the little artifacts of i don't know they keep him as it they shrunk him and made him a tiny pit yeah i mean i like i forgot if it was a priest or another teacher or something the one that got killed came rose from the dead and was attacking the children oh the uh like the head master or whatever yeah i i like that yeah because when she craws in through the thing and she sees them and then comes out and even though they spoiled that in the trailer but yeah basically like he's just standing there and then he grabs her that that was a good little moment yeah that was pretty cool but yeah yeah yeah you're right the the the goat demon was not particularly

particularly terrifying. Which was weird, okay, you got the goat demon, which is trying to harm them, but at the same time showed them where the little artifact was, the eyes of Lucille or whatever it was called, because the eyes were shining on the spot? I don't know that that was the goat demon. I think that was whoever put it there, used the eyes from the goat for some fucking reason, which makes no sense. why they even had that goat in there. But they used that as like a national treasure fucking clue to

show them where it was buried. Oh, that's a perfect example. National treasure clues because these Irene, sister Irene and other none that has no belief in miracles. They're just going from place to place city to city.

within seemingly only a day or two they're traveling all these different places Yeah And all you had to do is just go to where your vision told you The artifact was there Although The whole artifact

To begin with Seems strange Like the eyes or the artifact That's a weird thing And then why would you Even let that be available to get into the hands of a demon

I don't know and then of course we got to talk about the credit scene which was the Warren's getting a phone call for another case apparently from what I read this is going to tie into Valic

somehow like they're bringing Valic and the Warrens back together and the next conjuring movie is supposed to be called the Conjuring Last Rites. So is this another prequel? I don't know.

And that's probably my biggest problem with the nun is because I know Val is going to be okay. Yeah. Because she showed up in the Conjuring movies. Now, the artifact did give Valik the glowing eyes. So that was kind of a cool thing.

I like that little bit of a callback. It was just a, It was a weird situation. And then the whole fight with Valick or whatever, and the little girl had the, the artifact in her hands. Like, while the stage gets broken apart and there's things swinging like it was fucking from a Universal Studios

Twister ride. And then she's like, climbing up a sheer wood wall with this thing in her hands. I'm like, how are you? you even hanging on. That doesn't make sense. She's got excellent grip strength with her other hand. I guess so, but she was using the hand with the thing in it to, like, climb.

I was like, that's not a ice pick. What are you doing? And somehow she didn't drop it in the whole way. Like, it was, it was like in that moment, and I don't know why it was that moment in particular, but it was when that happened and I was like, what the fuck are we even doing here? Yeah, and then French he possessed his chasing off her and he falls off the scaffolding or whatever. But he's okay. Yeah. He shows up later.

He still tries to get back up and chase her. Yeah. So I don't know the rules and I don't know. There's a lot of running around in this movie. I don't think there's a whole lot of rules in this movie. I think this was whatever they need to do right to make it more convenient for the next scene to happen. Yeah. And that was something else I was going to bring up. I can't remember. It probably wasn't even important. French's little love interest. Not the little girl. No, with her mother. I guess the teacher was supposed to be her mother also.

Yeah, I think so. They at least alluded to that. I don't know if it actually was her mother, but she called her mama a couple times. So I guess this movie was truly R-rated. They would have killed one of the bully girls. They did, didn't they? Oh, no, they didn't kill her. She just got stabbed. Okay, I was about to say, I must have blacked out for that long. Yeah. No, she got, like, horned with the goat demon, which is the only damage that that thing did. He's like, I'm a big demon.

I'm going to come out. Oh, don't close the door. Shit. Oh, he was, he wasn't that big. I mean, he was big enough to fit in the vents. Yeah, I guess that's true. He's a cute little goat demon that it kept him as a pet. Well, that's the nun, too.

All right. Was it better than the first one? No. Maybe. I don't know. About the same, huh? I probably, as much as I agree with you, I didn't want to, I probably should have watched. You know what?

I might watch the nun the first nun again. This might make me appreciate the first one better. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Although there's still a lot of, they reach for shit in that first one, too, man. It's that just, like, you know, he's in the grave and he rings a little bell and all that. I remember that. Yeah, true. And it gets a little outlandish.

There was some cool images in this one, like, even though this was also in the trailer, too, the whole reveal of Balik in the magazines that were flipping pages. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah. It was a good effect. Those were cool. Like the little flashes of her throughout the movie were pretty cool, the way they worked them in.

And I just, I don't know, I just got to the point where I just wanted Valik to just say I'm here. I'm going to kick ass. Yeah. Are we going to find out that Vera Formiga is a descendant of this nun? That would be a lot better than. and some of the rumors I've been hearing that she this is vera farmiga and I'm like this is in the 50s yeah that doesn't even make any sense well if that was in the 50s is it wasn't in the 50s 60s 50s where does it say yeah I guess they don't really describe when and exactly it takes place but it seems

like ancient times you know like even before 50s 60s to me I mean I don't remember even seeing a fucking car or anything I think it's the 60s well if it's the 60s that kind of makes sense

because you know the Warrens were in like the 70s 80s it might be the 50s either way I think she fear for me was also going to be a descendant

of sister Lucille or whatever her name was Irene I think or no the sister the eyes or whatever

the head of her yeah sister Irene yeah I think she's going to be a descendant that's why she has her like clairvoyance her able to see the dead that makes sense but I'm going to say

ahead of time if she gets set on fire and doesn't burn, it's going to be kind of fucking stupid for some reason. Yeah. Well, we'll see how it goes. In that case, pre-casting. But what are you going to do?

All right, that's the nun too. All right, the nun too. Yeah, see it at your own risk. Not like there's a whole lot of us out right now. No. But as always, want to thank you for listening to another episode of the horror returns. We'd love to hear feedback and ideas.

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Yes, sir. Yeah, okay, that one. And Texas Chainsaw 3D. I don't even remember if I ever saw that one or not. Oh, I can't wait for you to see this one. And we'll be joined by Adam Thomas. We'll be joining us again. Oh, cool, cool.

So until the horror returns again, Brian? Good night. You always do it the best.