The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #383: International Horror - India: Tumbbad (2018) & It Lives Inside (2023)

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

This week, we hit the road again to visit India with the brand new It Lives Inside as well as 2018's Tumbbad. Cool of the Week includes AHS: Delicate and Sharksploitation. Trailers are Suburban Screams and The Fall of the House of Usher. The podcast spotlight shines on Podcast in the Woods. And we get feedback from Sean Kuusisaari, William Devine, Ken Bates, Jerry Eberts, Ariel Wellman, Sonya Lynch, Ricky Morgan, Steven Lowblad, Phillip Perron, Laurel Geare, and Legion Podcasts. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always. It's my co-host, Brian. Philip is missing in action tonight, doing some electrical work somewhere. What's he up to, Brian? I know originally we were supposed to do this Sunday, and I think he said the family came into town, the parents came into town, and I guess maybe that kind of took up his time because he said he wasn't going to be prepared for this episode. Right.

I think you're right. I think he also is still at work. Yeah, I think so, man. An electrician can always find work in a coastal town, right? like Galveston. Yeah. But, I mean, he still could have popped on as... He might.

He's in the call, so you never know, right? You know, our last voyage of the Demeter episode. You don't need to watch the movie to be on here. So I have had a couple of listeners reach out to me, and they're

asking, when we're going to get NAS back on the show? We need a... We need to... Yes. On here, man. Actually, I think if we would have

did this Sunday, he might have popped in. Ah, damn it. He works during the week, so. Okay. Well, maybe we'll. We actually recorded an episode. Our hiatus is done.

We got action returns coming out, and we got a stream fiends into CAND. And he had actually asked when we were recording, and then I said Tuesday, and he said, damn, can't make it. Yeah. Well, we've picked up, we've picked up some list. listeners, Brian. Yeah, I've seen. I'm starting to hear from people I don't even know who the hell they are, but welcome. If you're listening, thank you. Definitely appreciate it when you guys join us every week. It's kind of kind of makes our week with all the, with all the

bullshit that's going on sometimes. Am I right, Brian? Yeah, all the life, life stuff. That's all I need to say. I'm sure everybody understands when you say life, life happens. Well, I mean, that quote from Jurassic Park, he got the first part, right? What did he say? Life, what did he say? Life finds a way? Yeah, life does. He just left up the part to fuck you in the ass.

Yeah, well, I mean, that could go either way. Uh-huh. That sounded bad after you said. But life can find a way to make good things happen, but it also can fuck shit up. This is true. man. All part of the adventure, right? Yeah. All right, man. Well, I guess we might as

well jump in. Do you got any cool of the week this week? My cool of the weeks have been very limited because, you know, I've said before I'm saving everything up for the 31 days. Yes. I got quite the list of 23 releases ready to go. So I've been

trying to get in some TV shows. let's see the first one I started the first episode dropped last Friday and that was Peacock's new John Wick spin off the Continental. Oh, now is it just the first episode up so far? Yeah, because I think it's going to be a three episode miniseries. And the episode was like an hour and a half. So I think they're like movie length episodes. Okay, that's cool.

And I thought it was pretty cool. it's a prequel it's dealing with sorry car driving by it's dealing with I forgot the actor's name that plays Winston the head of the Continental

from the movies yeah Fosh Ian McShane okay all right Ian McSys I didn't say it can't be Lance Reddick

unfortunately right all those his young yeah his it's all their younger versions in how they say Okay, now I get it. And Mel Gibson's on the show.

He is, because this takes place in the 70s, and he is running the Continental. And you get introduced to a lot of interesting characters, especially near the end. There was a twin set of assassins. Kind of like Bullet Train. Yeah. So, not as funny as Bullet Train. But it did it did entreat me to see where it's going and how Winston eventually became the head of the Continental. Because at this point in the first episode, he has nothing to do with the Continental.

He knows what the Continental is and who runs it, but he has nothing to do with it at this point. Oh, cool. Okay, so it's an origin story for McShane's character. Yeah. Yeah, it shows how he met Lance Redick's character, Lance Redick's character. I think his name was Sharon, I think. Sure, we'll go with that. Yeah.

He started working for Mel Gibson's character at the Continental when he was a teenager, so he's been there for a long time. And the guy has kind of got the Lance Redick character mannerisms down, so I thought that was a good touch. Has he got the shaved head yet? No, he has hair. Okay. And one thing I noticed that this has that the movies did not have, there's quite a bit of nudity.

What? Yeah. And this is on Peacock, right? Yeah. Yep, Peacock. Man, I'll tell you what, these streaming services have changed everything, haven't they? Yeah. I mean, sometimes for the good, because I don't think, as we're kind of learning with the MCU, not everything needs a TV series.

Yes, indeed. Secret invasion is what you're talking about, isn't it? I still enjoyed the show. I just didn't like what they did with the ending. Fair enough. Like I said, I didn't have a problem with it. I am excited for, I think, Loki next week. Oh, is that already coming out?

It's October 6th, the busiest day of October, with all the horror movies coming out the same day. Well, I'm not going to bury the lead Because I know there's a topic you're going to talk about in the news section But might be happy days here again, huh? Might be What else? What else?

I checked out, actually this morning I started Asoka I was going to ask you about that one. Okay I was entertained There was a lot of badass Jedi stuff Nice And Ray Weiss, I think, his name, passed away.

So they had a nice little, after the episode ended, had a nice little for Ray thing. Which got some of his character and his, would it be his Padawan if he's

not a Jedi? I don't know. You're going to have to ask some of the geeks about that one. Yeah, forgive me if I don't know. Since we're never going to do our Star Wars versus Star Trek. Forgive me, if I don't know.

I am a fan of Star Wars, but I'm not like a super, super fan. Sean could tell you. Yeah, well, whatever is, like, his student, protege. She was pretty badass, and Osoko was badass. And it looked great. The CGI would look fantastic. The Jedi fights were fantastic. And, yeah.

Can't wait to get to. get into more. I don't know a lot about the characters because I never watched any of the animated Rebel series. I think that's what they were. So, but you know, you never know this might get me to go back and watch them. Yeah, I've been thinking about it too. You know, we'll see, see how it goes. Time being what it is, right? Yeah. And the availability. So is it 30 minutes or an hour, the first episode? First is like, I think 50, something. minutes, almost an hour, but not quite. But I think they're doing

that thing where, because I think I noticed the next episode was like 45 minutes. Okay. So that they had the, and probably the finale will be an hour. Yeah. A little over an hour, I'm guessing. Is it eight episodes, five, six? I'm not sure

that it's neither six or eight. Okay. And just to keep it with the horror, I checked out the first episode. of American Horror Story. I think the season's called Delicate. Yeah, strange name for a title.

And I am intrigued. Yeah. Yeah. I thought everybody was pretty good in it so far. I know a lot of people are kind of like Kim Kardashian's. I'm not watching it. She plays a publicist. She's not like going for a role that she's going for her.

Emmy or something like that or Cold Glove or whatever. But she was actually pretty fucking good in it because they're, it's given, it's still giving me Rosemary's baby vibes. Because it seems like, because she's a, it's Emma Roberts is the main character.

Okay. She is a, I think she was a star as a teen. And then just made some kind of horror movie, which just kind of catapulted her into the upper A-list. And she is doing the fertility thing

trying to get pregnant and everybody's kind of excited for her. Oh, wow. Okay. The husband is like super pushy to the point where it kind of reminded me of the husband from Rosemary's baby. Okay. And I kind of feel like Kim Kardashian's

character is kind of involved too because she's her publicist and friend, but they met at a fertility a group for women that had trouble getting pregnant and needed like support or something. That's where they met. Well, if they were going to show an American horror story

pregnancy horror season, this would be the year because it seems like every other horror movie lately is about pregnancy. Yeah. And the intro has a lot to do with babies being born and spider. Oh, okay. It's getting a great, man

It's pretty good so far I want to see where they go And I think they're doing the Roanoke thing Where I think halfway I think they're going to switch Into something else Or switch Sure

It's going to be the story But it's going to switch into like part two Or the season's going to be something Connected A lot of that Well yeah Because they had the two many seasons A couple of years ago

And that worked pretty well As the one with your boy McCauley Culkin. Oh, what was that season? The first one was... The first one was... You played the cross two? Yeah, the first one was like something

by the sea, right? Where they were kind of vampires, but they took that drug that helped to be more creative or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was pretty good. The second part was aliens, right? Yeah.

In that season. That works out well for them, I think, when they did. I haven't seen New York City, have you? I tapped out after two episodes. I heard bad things. I just... Okay. I didn't like anybody in it.

I didn't like the storyline. Nothing was grabbing me. I usually, my rule of thumb is three episodes. If I'm not in by three episodes, then I'm out. But after two, I was just like, I'm bored out of my mind. Yeah. Understandable. Well, there's a certain Sasquatch over there at the Bench Network that will only give it one episode.

So you're ahead of that, man. Well, he's very sassy. But yeah, I'll go with the American Horror Story Delicate. Nice. All right. Well, that's promising. You might have to check that out. Have you checked out any more of the American Horror Stories?

Because I kind of tapped out of that one. I've watched the... I'm up to date on those, but honestly, I couldn't tell you, other than the one that had to do with the Murder House, Season 1. I couldn't tell you what any of the stories were. Well, there was a doll storyline, wasn't there? this season or something like that? I don't know. Yeah, I think it's coming back next month, but I think

there's something going to be like a four-episode miniseries. So I'm hoping that maybe lesser will be more with the short stories. I can definitely feel that, man. I know what you're saying. All right, let me get this on record here. So you're saying American Horror Story Delicate. Yes, sir.

All right, I will check. that out. So I think we talked a little bit about strays, didn't we? Yeah. Is that one of Phillips School of the Weeks? Or? That was mine, the episode. Okay. Okay. Yes. Love it, man. Loved it. Yeah. I think if you're, if you, if you, if you've owned dogs most of your life, you, you, you get the humor. You, because these are questions that you probably asked yourself, why are they doing this? What are, what are they thinking when this is happening? Why are they humping garden gnomes? Why are they turning so many circles before they lay down and then get back up and then do the same thing again?

All your questions are answered in this one, man. What they think we do with the poop when we bag it up. Right. Oh, yeah. I don't want to give too much away because it's a newer movie, but that was one of the most daring prison escapes I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. And I do recommend people try. try watching it, try seeking it out,

because I know it bombed in the theater. Did it? Yeah, it was a fail. Well, AJ said that one of her best friends' sisters took the kids. Now, how do you not see the big R-rating right there on the marquee? Really? Yeah, I mean, when I first heard of it, I saw the trailer in the movie theater,

and it was the Red Band trailer. Same here. I knew what I was getting. into. And I think they were pushing the Red Band trailer more than the regular trailer, so I think they wanted the audience to know what the movie was.

Yeah, and I don't know why it bombed. I mean, sausage party did pretty well, didn't it? That's still considered like, maybe this would be a cult classic. It might, I mean, you got Will Farrell, Jamie Fox, what's her name, I La Fisher? Oh, Isla Fisher?

I don't know if she could do it. Is she Australian? She sounded pretty convincing. Yeah, that's her natural, I think, accent. Well, there you go. Okay. Yeah. And then just like all kinds of people just showing up, right? Yeah.

But, um... I like the German Shepherd. She was like, she's like, all right, Adolf. And he was like, I don't get it. She was like, you're a fucking German shepherd. He was like, oh, I get it now. That was Rob Riggle, you said, right? Yeah. Yeah. And who did

the other voice? The other police canine dog, do you know? I don't know. It sounded familiar. Yeah. Lots of, familiar voices. It's a fun movie, especially, like I said, if you're a dog lover, then I think you're

going to love it. I just, I don't need, I don't think they really marketed it right. Right. So. Well, are you, uh, are you watching any of what we do in the shadows? I'm not caught up, no. It's, it's on the, it's on the long list of shows I've started and not, not caught up or finished.

the first two episodes of this season I was really worried Brian because it was just really fucking competitive or it was really repetitive I should say like it was a lot regurgitating a lot of the same old jokes and stuff and I was like oh this isn't going to be good but then the next two episodes after that they did a pride week okay where they uh they were as usual very misinformed about what pride week actually stands for and they were thinking it was vampire pride and so they arranged a party like a parade and everything

that was great and then the week after that they did a like a news anchor skit each episode is only like 22 minutes so they get a lot of jokes in but they kind of like get in and get out but this is one where

Nandor accidentally was out walking and told one of the news anchors, oh, yes, we've lived here for 200 years. And then everybody's like, why the fuck did you say that on live TV? And then they have to go and try to hypnotize all the news anchors or decide what they're going to do. And getting ready to leave the house so they can move yet again, you know, as they're so used to have it to do every time people come with pitchforks and torches. So, yeah, ever since then, man, they haven't looked back.

Everyone's original and funny. Nice. So, yeah, I think that my cool of the week is going to be a documentary that you were telling me about shark exploitation. Oh, you finally got to watch it. Yeah, I'm going to go with that, man. I haven't watched a good, solid documentary in a long time. And this one did a really good job of not only, you know, showing you kind of like the evolution of all the films that ripped off jaws, but like the evolution of what happened after that. And then you start getting into all the, like the asylum stuff, right?

like Super Jaws versus Man Eater Anaconda and... See, I don't know. I can watch those, but for some reason, I can't watch the Shark Nato ones. I don't know why. They're pretty weak, man. I've seen the first one, and that's as much as I need to see.

I just kind of have a problem with... I love so bad it's good movies, but I kind of have the problem with on-purpose bad movies. Like over-the-top on-purpose. Yeah, just like... At least the other guys were trying. to make a movie. That's true.

And with those shark-natal movies, it's like, ha-ha, see what we did there? Ha-ha. Get it? You get it? No, do you get what we did there? And it's like way over the top. But I do like the way they mixed in

some real facts about sharks and how they're not really, you know, that aggressive or vicious unless you fuck with them. And how Jaws, Peter Benchley always kind of, He kind of like always regretted the fact that he made, you know, the book and it was so popular and the movie became so popular because people were like, it was talking about how people would go out and go shark hunting and stuff like that afterwards to just get rid of them. So I thought that added a nice touch to it, but, you know, and then talking about what Sharp Week did and all that good stuff.

So that's my cool of the week, Brian, shark exploitation. Nice. documentary. So I guess that's it. Moving on. Gotta have some headlines, man, finally, right? Yeah. First, we're going to start with a Texas Frightmare update. It's about time. It's about time. They announced their first guest, and it is the legendary Warwick Davis will be a Texas Frightmare. Jesus. He's the first announcement? Yep. not John Carpenter, not Clive Barker, but Warwick Davis.

Warwick Davis is a legend. I mean, on the poster here, they got, he was in Labyrinth, Lepricon, Return of the Jedi, Willow, Harry Potter, Doctor Who. Okay. And that's probably not even scratching the surface of his filmography. So, I would agree. I would definitely be excited to meet Warwick Davis because that's somebody that's kind of been in my childhood or been in my life since I was a child. You know, later finding out, you know, he was in Return of the Jedi as, you know, as an EWalk. Right, right.

Willow, I was a major Willow fan when I was a kid. I was super into to, I still say to this day, nobody did 80s fantasy movie or fantasy. movies like the 80s. Labyrinth is a good example. Labyrinth. Legend. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Excalibur. Oh, yes. I wouldn't even really consider that fantasy.

That was almost, well, it felt like a historical drama. I guess it was obviously fantasy, right? Yeah, so many, so many movies that were just amazing in the 80s, and he was a part of some of them, so. And all the ensemble casts, all the people he was, he's been able to work. work with throughout his career, right? Yeah. Who hasn't worked with Warwick Davis?

And I never got to finish it. I know a lot of people said it wasn't good, but I still wanted to finish the Willow series. Yes. Disney Plus took it off. It got a bum rap. It got a bum rap for some reason, man. Yeah, I'm like, and it kind of took the cast and crew by surprise because they were like,

not only we got canceled, but you took the series. off of the streaming platform and you didn't give time for people to discover it or watch it or anything. No doubt. So was Ron Howard involved in that at all or was that? Did he produce it? I wonder why they would make that decision. Because I think we talked about it many times before. Everything has to be

instant smash. Everything has to be the next stranger things or Cobur Kyi or or Or secret invasion. The next secret invasion. Everything needs to be the next Mandalorian or the last of us. Last of us, sure.

Something has to bring in millions of views immediately the day it premieres. And sometimes some of these shows, they need a time to find their audience. Right. Yeah, a lot of them become cult classics, right? Look at Star Trek. They were going to cancel it after two seasons. and the major letter writing campaign from the fans, they gave it an extra year, you know, and look at it now.

Yeah, like seven series going on Paramount Plus all at the same time. Yeah. Could use that in your argument against Star Wars? I've got a whole attache case this thick with arguments, but it'll never happen. Oh, it'll happen. It'll happen one day. I'm looking forward to maybe meeting up with Alleyol one day at Disney World.

you know that would be kind of the ultimate he'll meet up with you he's super cool guy I know I think he had told me one time when when I left from Texas after Texas Fright Mare and I had that layover in Chicago Right I think I'd I posted I was doing something to Chicago eating at somewhere And I think he had commented oh you should have let me know you were gonna be here for a few hours

You know I would have met up with you or something like that That's pretty cool man Super cool guy. Yeah, last time I was in Chicago with AJ's work, I met up with Kupka for a little bit. So that was cool. Wish we had some Kupka sounders, but we don't. I definitely made it to the dispensary. Let's put it that way.

I'm sure you did. So, all right. So that's cool, man. At least we're starting to announce the guest for Frightmare. That's a good thing. And let's see. I guess I'll pull up the article you sent

because that's the biggest news no those are the trailers oh the strike might be coming to an end because they have reached a tentative deal it's not final there still needs to be a boat to take place

but it looks promising it looks like the actors and the writers will get what they what they deserve or at least more than what they were getting before and everything can get back to

working again so yeah we can we can hope so man because you know the you know that the studios are going to find a way to make their money and you know I figured it was going to happen soon because you got big events

coming up here next month you got New York Comic Con you got D23 you got You did call it, Brian. Yeah, you have these things that were like big showcases for your content, but you got a strike going on, and you can't have the main parts of these movies and TV series there. Yeah, can't have a bunch of scabs coming through, right?

The scabs. I don't want no scabs. So hopefully this tentative deal kind of turns into something more lucrative for the actors and writers. The creative part of the process of making all this great stuff we get all the time because they definitely deserve a lot more than they should. Yeah, no doubt. You got a producer that just comes in and writes a check.

And they're taking the lion's share of the money. Come on. Because I know these studios, they have the money. because I think I read recently Warner Brothers just bought a big piece of land in the UK to make their DC studio thing. This surprises you why? I mean

I'm just pointing out the fact that they have the money because you can just go purchase acres of land to build to say this is primarily where we're going to work on the DC just the DC part of our movie hub. So they're moving most of it to England then? They said it's also going to be used for other movies, but it's going to be like, it's like a, I think I saw like a blueprint or print something that was posted. And it's like a massive studio thing.

And I'm like, you guys, you guys got the money to do this. Why don't you pay your writers and actors? Brian, I know they do have the money because my max subscription just went from 99, 99 a year to 149.99 a year. Oh, yeah. And I saw today, Prime's going to go up. What a shocker. Because they're going to add the... Either you can have no ads or a membership with ads. So I'm pretty sure the one we have now is probably going to be the no ad one,

which will probably be raised. Oh, I'm sure. But I'll probably pay for it, dude, because I do not like having to sit through ads. I'm so spoiled with all these streaming services that I tried to watch TV when we were in Hawaii because all we had was the TV to watch and it's like Jesus fucking Christ, dude, we were watching Meet the Fuckers.

Remember that one? Yeah. The sequel to Meet the Parents. And I swear to God, Brian, there was more fucking commercial than movie. It was like 10 minutes of commercials and then seven minutes of the movie. Just insane.

You know what's, pretty bad. I won't say what the movie is yet, but it's a movie that me and Nez are going to do for 31 next month over on the Skaternez Podcast Network, which you should be subscribed to if you're not, listeners. We couldn't find the movie,

and he ended up finding it on Plex. Okay. Plex was killing me how many times they cut to advertisements. Oh, and they're like the timed. like Tooby, right, where you show the little 180 go around, 180, 179, 178, 178. But see, with Tooby, as further along you get in the movie, you cut to less ads.

But they do tend to be the same ad over and over again sometimes. But with Plex, it was just like, I swear, like every 10, 15 minutes, it cut to a series of ads. Brian, I started watching Texas Chains. so 3D on Plex. Let's just say that after the first commercial break, I found it through foul means, okay? Well, that's how I found it. You didn't do your thing, cuz?

I had to do my thing, because I was going to give me fucking three hours of commercials, man. Oh, gosh, that is probably one of the worst movie lines ever. And she said it so non-bad-ass. That might be the worst line ever, man. If not, I want our listeners to send us their worst movie lines of all time. You know what? We'll be the judge of that.

Sometime this week, I'm going to post that in a Facebook. What is the worst movie line of all time? I can't think of a worse one than that. All right. Let's see. Do we have any other news? Let me scroll down. I think there was some news.

Do you hear about that turning Netflix is turning Squid Game into a, reality game show on Netflix. I think that Mr. Beast has already done that on YouTube because my grandsons were watching it and driving me crazy, so it's not a new thing. Now, if they start actually killing people, I'll tune

in. Yeah, I think it'll only be one season, though. But they have announced that the grand prize is the biggest grand prize in reality game show history. Okay. I think I saw a teaser, and it's like

over 4.5 million. Well, there goes. Netflix is going to go up 20 bucks a month now. Yep. You're welcome. Let's see. Smile 2 gets an official October 18,

2024 release day. I'm not mad at that, Brian, but I wish they would have given it a more original name. Maybe they'll change the name. Yeah, don't do the thing where you try to include the number in the title. Oh yeah, like make the two look like two teeth or something. Like the stupid thing they did with expendables four, where they put the four in the spendables. Well, if we hadn't covered the movie we're

covering this week, I would have gone to the theater for that one. But yeah, I'm hearing not great things. Uh-oh. But if anybody didn't know, we did the first expendables for action returns which should be out any day now and he spoke a little bit about expendables for and he said he was pretty much entertained and he liked the new additions to the cast of the younger edition this movie is more like a passing of the torch because Stallone had said it's his last one and statham is supposed to be the new head of the franchise which i like statham he's fun okay so isn't tony jaw in this part four tony jah and Eco UAEys. He was the main guy

in the Raid movies. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they are given some other people a chance then. That sounds like. I'll watch them all, for sure. I have fun with them. I'll kind of let the cat

out the bag now because we're eventually going to do all of them. Three is my least favorite. So far. But at a dumb action. movie level, it's still fun.

My main problem with the expendable movies is the CGI blood. We will talk some CGI tonight, my friend. Yes, we will. Let's see. I may never complain about CGF fire again, Brian,

after what you just put me through this week. I think the only other big news there was came out yesterday as we were recording and it is that... Tom Bad 2 or what?

Oh, we'll get to that. Okay. Let's see. Miramax is currently shopping the rights to Halloween franchise for film and TV. Okay.

So... Why not? Yeah, I didn't... I of course never thought that that was going to be the last Halloween anything we'd ever get. Sure. Oh, my God.

I mean, you can do anything. Why not? You can continue the series off from the Daniel Harris timeline. You can make a TV show or TV series rebooting it. Or you can make and you can try to try. And I'm losing this loosely try to create a new Michael Myers, a new horror icon. for the series.

Oh, no. Michael Myers that posts misinformation on X. Oh, gosh. Was he revealed to be Elon or something? No, he's revealed to be a Russian bot. Oh.

I mean, I'm, we're, like, like you said, and we've said many times, we're going to end up watching it, so. Guaranteed. It's not even a, question.

I mean, you just never know what you're going to get. It could be the next Halloween movie could be a big piece of shit, or it could be, one of us can end up saying this is probably my favorite out of the franchise. Okay, so the character is bigger than any single actor or even the mask. Am I right? Yeah, because many actors have played Michael Myers. Yeah, I mean, we'll see what they've done. You know, we've had, what, two different timelines.

three different timelines. Two. You have to say. Three different timelines. What is Rob Zombie Chopped Liver? Oh, four different timelines. I forgot about that. And then a standalone movie, which... In my opinion, was the best of all.

Yeah. I won't say it's the best. Okay. It is my top three in the franchise. That's strong words. It might be number two now that I'm thinking about it. So, yep, that's all the news as probably hear of bus pulling up, school bus. Okay, well, as the bang bus pulls up into Bryant's neighborhood. That's tomorrow.

So we're going to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what is our first new trailer to talk about tonight? This week in the Trail of Park We are talking about new series And the first one we were going to talk about is a new Peacock original John Carpenter's suburban screens

Okay Let's see Synopsis goes And exploitation Exploration of true tales of terror That take place in seemingly Perfect American hometowns Hmm

Let's see anybody from the cast I recognize not ready let me see who's the director there we got John Carpenter is going to direct some episodes oh more than one then yes

John Carpenter Michelle Latimore John Pavicki and Jordan Robertson underneath all there it says unknown episodes because he could have directed one episode could be the pilot episode or could be half the series. Hmm. Well, I mean, John Carpenter, he's definitely got some street cred, right? Yeah. I mean, uh, throw that name on the title.

I'm, I'm, I'm in just off curiosity of what, what he's got going with it. Do you, do you remember, uh, John Carpenter's body bags on HBO back in the day? Love that. I own it, too. I own it. That's what I want to see, man. But this, unfortunately, does not look like that. Yeah. You were giving me a pretty good description of what you think it is. Yeah, we were talking off, off, of Mike.

It kind of looks like maybe they got the, it looks like anthology story format, and maybe they got the real people kind of describing what's happening, and then we got the actors doing a reenactment of what the story is. Okay. I mean, it, it's kind of intriguing me with John Carpenter's involvement. That's the only thing that's intriguing me.

It just does not look like what I like. I don't recognize anybody in the cast, but maybe it's not about the acting. It's more about the storytelling. And these are supposedly true stories are based off true stories that happen and what as they describe perfect what seemingly are perfect American

homes, hometowns or whatever. The last couple of elections maybe. Yeah. That'll really make you scream, on it. Yeah. So it doesn't sound like it sold you,

but I would definitely add it to the list of shows I don't finish. So this looks like it is due to come out in the very busy month of October on October the 13th. Why not, man?

Pile it all in there. Which, any of fans of the Goosebump series, Disney Plus is rebooting the series, and it also comes out on October 13th. And I am already hearing grumblings. The Stephen King

book podcast that I listened to, The Losers Club, that you told me about, they are already grumbling about the fact that they're trying to make it like a continuing story rather than anthology style? I mean, I get that, but

it's something different for the series. I guess. Maybe it's a mini series. Well, I didn't read him when I was a kid. I was reading Stephen King when I was that age. Yeah, I remember reading

some, but by that time I was a little older than the demographic at the time. I remember that's watching the TV show a little bit. So maybe they're doing anthology seasons. Okay. American Horror Story style then. Yeah.

Okay. It is on my list of shows I'll never finish. So we're real interested in John Carpenter that we're talking about goosebumps. Exactly. So we'll just move away from suburban screams into something you've been

waiting for for a minute. And that is the fall of the House of Usher from Mike Flanagan. Not going to go into the cast list because if you've seen Mike Flanagan's shows before, he likes to use the same actors. But one actor I did notice that was in the cast that I didn't know he was in there before

was Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker. Yes, the Jedi Master himself. And I also saw the actress that played Abra from Dr. Sleep. She said that too. Okay, the one that was in starry eyes, right? Or no. No, not that one.

That was the one who played Shelly DeValle's character. Help me out here. No, Abra, the girl. The little girl. The little girl. Okay. All right, I'm with you now.

I'm with you now. Okay. So a lot of familiar faces. Goodness, Carla Gugino. Of course. Of course. but okay i'm staring at carlo eugenia's picture too much uh lance what did you think of this new series from mike flanagan i think you know by now that i i'm a huge mike flanagan netflix series fan with the

exception of the one that was a little too young adult that i kind of tapped it out of that was i guess his most recent one started that one i don't think you're missing too much man but but as you know his other three were my favorite of each year they came out. And I love an ensemble cast, dude. I've always loved an ensemble cast. And Jesus Christ, where there are a lot of familiar faces in this short little two-minute trailer, man. It's like insane amounts of people that, I know that person. I know that person.

His wife, Kate Siegel, I did not recognize her with that silver hair. she's she's pretty uh flexible man she can play different types of characters pretty well you know evil good old young i'm watching the trailer and i'm like what an attractive woman this is with the silver hair and then right they cut to another scene i'm like it's oh it's fucking kate seagull yes because i was wondering like where is she she she's in all her because you know that's mike flanagan's wife and not that that's the only reason she's in his series Yeah, he's not... She's an amazing actress.

He's not straight just pulling a Rob Zombie on us, in other words, right? No, she can pop up in other directors' movies, and she would be just as good. Yes. But, yeah, this is based off Edgar Allan Poe, because I know they were quoting a lot of stuff in the movie, The Nevermore, and then you see The Raven. But other than I'm kind of going into this,

kind of not really knowing what, the stories about. I kind of like it now. I do too, man. Because God knows you can take an Edgar Allen Poe story and make it great like Flanagan has, or you can give us the turning

that we got a couple of years ago. Oh, gosh. Me and my youngest daughter was just talking about that. Now, she still likes the movie. She just hated the abrupt ending. She hated the abrupt ending. Yeah.

understandable. And then we were talking about how we, they were teasing that there was a post-credit scene. And when we were watching, it was just somebody dragging their hand across the wall for the whole credits. Yeah, there was another movie that did that too on us that year. Remember? God damn it. The one with Mandy, the lady that plays Mandy in it. She played a cop or something. Where at the end they showed the house. It was that Grudge movie or something, wasn't it?

Oh, they showed the car parked in the house and you can't wait for something to jump out at us. You know, I try to keep a positive, but man, that movie. They missed so many opportunities to do great things in that movie. Rough stuff, man. So it kind of sounds like we are definitely both in. We were both big fans of Mike Flanagan. This is actually busy, well, week that October

October 12th of course it is yeah of course it is man you know we got to we got a squeeze in our 31 movies and all the all the series right Chuckie Chuckie starts next week oh yeah so well I've got I've got my list started

Brian that I'm not going to get caught flat footed dude when October 1st rolls around I've already I've already got a list of at least 20 movies so and these are all 2023 releases so we're I think we're going to be okay. And like I told you before, good luck, sir.

Hey, some of them look pretty good, man. Yes, it's what I say every year. Okay. You ready for some feet? Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say that's the final trailer. All right, so podcast Spotlight?

Yep. All right, this week, the podcast Spotlight shines on. podcast in the woods. We're a horror podcast who loves to take a look at some favorites as well as some of the more obscure titles in the horror genre. The main thing is fun.

Sounds good, right? Yeah, should always have fun. All right. You want to go through some of this listener feedback, Brian? We've got a little bit this week. Let's see, we got I should put on my reading glasses. Sean.

I did have a pretty small font, didn't I? Posted in the group between Max Prime Hulu and Netflix, what is a must-see horror movie? Cheeziness is not frowned upon here. Like where you're coming from, sir? He might be in luck, then. Just a good scary movie or some, and he got some responses. William Devine said, come true, think it's on Hulu.

That's been in my Hulu Q for a minute. I've never seen that one. I think that's one of them like surreal dreamlike kind of, I think someone was saying it kind of had like a nightmare on Elm Street dream horror type vibe to it. All right, I might check that out then. Let's see. Ken Bates, if you like the abstract narratives, try this one. If you don't like that kind of movie, then don't watch it referring to the Neon Diener.

and I have never seen that. Nor have I. I've missed that one. And I think it's a decent director, isn't it, that did the movie? Nicholas, winding, winding.

That's right, Winding Riffin. There was a, there was a Ryan Gosling movie that he did that I thought was complete. Oh, no. I know what you're, ah, where he had the bullet.

He was. was holding the bullet in one scene. Yeah. And there was an elevator kill scene. Was that drive? The devil made me do it. Oh, yeah, drive. Drive, I think, was the elevator scene.

But yeah. I think of a different one. The devil made me do it. Yeah, that movie is boring. All right. Let's see. So listeners, please go in and enter your responses to Sean's question. Oh, that goes for, oh, okay.

Somebody's got to have some good ideas, right? I know we don't. Regarding our feedback about Sharnie Vincent and Bate, I think we did this one before. Yeah, I think we did the first part, but I believe this is new. You sure this is not the one we thought Philip was having a stroke? I have not interviewed a lot of horror stars,

but had great combos with Michael Gross, art director on the original Ghostbusters, the generous and lovely Bill O. Burts, Jr., and had fun time chatting with Larry Fezden. That's some horror icons right there, man. Going back several decades, I interviewed Robert Blotch, the guy who wrote the novel on which Hitchcock-based Psycho.

R.B. was an old-timer, having written The Twilight Zone and Star Trek, OG. Nice. He's got my attention. And he's got him on an R.B. Not just the first name basis, Brian, but he, R.B. I also interviewed Elvira, unfortunately, only over the phone.

I can see why that would be unfortunate. Yeah, because I didn't get to meet her when I was in Texas, but she was not in Elvira makeup. She was Cassandra Peterson. But, man, she is gorgeous in real life. Yes, I'm sure you wouldn't mind meeting Alexander Dadario in real life. Yes, she's very talented. Ariel Wellman, the From Dust Till Dawn series was amazing, would have been better as an eight-part series.

I kind of agree with you. I wouldn't say it was amazing. I did enjoy majority of it, but I think now that he's saying it, if it was shortened up, I think it would have work a lot better because like that I don't know if you've seen it but like the whole first

episode of the series is that liquor store scene in the beginning of the movie oh wow they really drank it out then yeah but it worked though for the episode

regarding Fredhead Sonia Lynch said hey I haven't seen have you seen that one yeah it's a nightmare on Elm Street right it's interesting it's focusing on the fans

okay I mean they talk about the movie and they have people from the movie but it's talking about the fandom because it's still what the last movie came the remake came out 13 years ago and

if they drop the news today there's a new nightmare on Elm Street people would be going crazy so yeah I would think so yeah which I've heard some things I've read some things the Craven estate is looking for looking for people to submit ideas

so maybe one day will get something I don't know it's again a character that's bigger than any one actor right? Yeah and Robert England said he has an idea for a movie let him direct it this time then right let him directed maybe he'll maybe he can come back as freddie one last time would it would do like a legacy legacy movie pass the torch ghostbuster style right i think that was his idea that in the movie that he would pass on the whatever powers to somebody else and then the franchise can continue off of that movie so that way you would get you would get Robert

England back in a nightmare and Elm Street movie and have a story that continues the franchise. I mean, it worked for Hellraiser, I thought. I thought she did a damn good job as Pennhead, so.

Yeah, but, you know. What I'm coming to find out that people didn't really like the movie as much as we did. Well, it was like direct to Hulu, right? Yeah, well, so was prey. Yeah. That's true. That's true. All right.

Ricky Morgan, torso is my jam. Never seen it. Not a big Italian horror fan. Yeah. It's on my list. Regarding Dead City, hey, Lance, I don't want, I don't know what your problem is. This really isn't bad.

It's garbage. Wait, is that from... Stephen Loblad, right? Okay, yeah. There's no name on here. I forgot to put the name. You know who you are, Stephen? Hey, he's hung in there. Yeah, he's hung in there from show one, hasn't he?

Steve, let us know what you think about Darrell Dixon. Oh, no, you know he's watching it. I've heard nobody talk about this show. Oh, boy. Regarding our upload from Battle Royale and re-upload from Battle Royale and Belko Experiment, Philip Perrien said, love those films. believe we enjoyed those too. People are getting some exposure to our older shows, courtesy of some versal music.

We got an email from Laurel Gear. Hi, horror returns. Greetings from Los Angeles. I am writing to see if you are interested in having some fun guests on your show. Writers and my brothers, Darren and Jeffrey Gehry. sorry if I'm pronouncing your name wrong would love to be guests on your UK horror podcast

sure we have a UK horror podcast no no but we can I mean we've done UK movies before we're we're done Duncan McLeese on with us remember yeah as you'll hear our two movies later on

we are very international on the horror returns the horror movie that they wrote the retaliators. Is that the one have we seen recently? I don't know, but it sounds interesting. It's going to be released streaming

in Ireland and England on Halloween, so we're trying to create a buzz. Let me know if you were interested and would like to know more. They are super fun guests, true horror fans, check it out. You won't be disappointed. Old school horror fans love it.

Nice. I think I'll be sending out an email. Also, our friends and patrons at Legion Podcasts remind us that they do have a Discord group, so be sure to check it out. Just look for Legion Podcasts. Guess we got to get on Discord, man. Yep.

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And you got a werewolf in the background. Yeah. All right. Time to get into featured attractions. This week we're going to hit the road. I think we're going to have to do more than a road, though. We're probably going to have to get on a plane at some point. But we are going to India for Tumbad as well as the brand new It Lives Inside.

So we'll start with 2018's Tumbad. But we've got him? Because Astor's shab Our way for We're doing I'm Dara not I'm Dumbar to make

I'm A mythological story About a goddess Who created the entire universe The plot revolves Around the consequences When humans

build a temple For her first born I'm not sure If that's what I got out of it But we'll see Directors, I put in the

notes We aren't going to torture, Phil, trying to pronounce the names, but there's like three directors and three writers, Brian, and they were all different. So, let's see. A little trivia.

Tumbad became the first ever Indian film to open the prestigious Venice International Film Critics Week. Congratulations. Oh, wow. The movie was shot for six years, so we won't be seeing a Tum

add to anytime soon. The scenes shown in the city of Tumbad, which gets rained throughout the year, was shot over four monsoons. That I believe. Because there wasn't one fucking scene in this movie where people weren't sloshing through two feet of water.

Kind of like an Alaskan sloshing through a foot of snow every winter. I think the water was a part of the story though. I guess. I'll be let you start, dude. I don't know what to think about this, dude. I I

I'm bad Brian I actually I actually enjoyed this I actually enjoyed the story I love the mythology you brought up to CGI I think you were talking about this movie oh my God

it wasn't great I've seen better Sonic the Hedgehog games on Sega but with that being said I think they told an interesting story I like this story about this god this goddess that birthed all these gods and one of them

was greedy and tried to steal all the wealth and food for himself, and she cursed it. Right, right. And you got this kid who kind of finds out this story and wants to know where the gold is, and then over time, his family leaves there, his mother forbids him to ever go seek it out,

but over time, I think it's an excellent story about greed and obsession. Mm-hmm. Because after time goes by, I'm assuming after his mom passes, or something. He goes back to search for the gold, the treasure, and he finds it. And he just keeps going back over time, over time,

getting more, getting greedy, sacrificing his own friends, and kind of turning into a shitty person over time. Okay. I can see that. Eventually he has a son who he trains to take his place one day because he's getting older. And like I said, he's a shiard. shitty person because he's super shitty to his son. Has a, I believe, an in-house mistress also?

Yeah, I guess. I think a very young in-house mistress, let's not forget. And I think his, I don't know, man, I think his attitude toward his son changes a little toward the end when he gets a wake-up call. Oh, he, he kind of redeems himself in the end when it came to his son. Yeah, agreed. But. Yeah, I just love the story and how the interacting with this god at the end.

Forgive me if I don't remember the name. There's a lot of stuff I don't want to mispronounce and be disrespectful towards. But there's an interesting design of the god, especially when they were going into, I believe that was when they were climbing down where the treasure was. It was the goddess's womb. Yep. Where the demon was cursed to live forever. Yeah, now, those special effects were pretty decent.

Like when they landed inside there and you could kind of see the pulsating and everything was red. And then that, I guess that other demon god type thing or what her first born son, is that what it was described is the skeletal looking demigod or whatever that. spoiler alert kind of multiplied just like greed well see that that's where I thought the story got interesting because he got super greedy yes they would to make to make offerings they would make these little dough dolls because he he could never satisfy his hunger so

they made these offerings and that's how he would he would throw the doll the god would go after the doll and while he's eating it he would tear open his little satchel and the coins would fall out and he would grab all the coins and then get his ass out of there super fast at the end we'll just kind of jump into the end because uh this the best part of the movie to me at least uh got super greedy because i said this is a movie about greed and obsession yep cautioned at the tale right had him and his son make multiple do dolls which caused the the guy to basically clone himself into whatever amount of doodals there was

that it kind of surrounded him down there. Yep, that's the impression I got. Child being murdered. Well, so let me ask you a question, man. The scene when they were driving in the car to get out there, do windshields, are they not contained in India? Are they always, like, kind of open where, like, the rain is just gushing into the car as you're driving?

I thought that was kind of weird. Well, maybe he couldn't afford windshields. He started out poor. I had a windshield. It was just at an angle. And the water was pouring into it, remember? Maybe he didn't have wipers. Maybe that was a problem.

Okay. I'll buy that. Well, what about the guy that was going to give him the opium business? What was that all about? Oh, that guy was just, I think that guy owed a lot of money. Right. And kind of heard the legends, especially when he said where he was from. and started putting two to two together that maybe the legends are true that's where he's getting all this gold from and sold his very young sister-in-law as a mistress slash housekeeper well to his wife she was going to be a housekeeper yeah and told basically told her to distract him for the next couple days while I go do this which she ended up telling him

and you saw what happened to him. He didn't know basically the procedures that he had created to safely getting the gold and he ended up paying with his life. Which was, I thought actually was a cool effect how the wounds, the walls were basically absorbing him. Yeah. And then what was with the burning, like where they'd throw a fire on him? Is that to save their soul kind of?

Yeah, he... Coming one with the goddess or whatever? Yeah, he... He sacrificed him to the god or the goddess for stealing his stuff, but he still had pity on him because at the end of the day that was his friend, so he put him out of his misery and burnt him. So just kind of as simple as that then.

Yeah. So would you say that this story is kind of like the Indian version of like a leprechaun, that one demigod or character? Because he had the loin cloth, right? They were always talking about, let's just steal the whole loin cloth. Let's take the loin cloth.

So that's kind of like the bag of gold, I guess, for the leprison. Yeah, because at the end, when he sacrifices himself to save his son, and he kind of makes it out as a, I guess he was basically like a zombie, an undid version of himself. Yes, yes.

And we'd probably stay that way forever. I kind of wanted to see what would have happened because he had the entire loin claw full of going to coins and he was offering it to his son. Mm-hmm. But I kind of felt like it was a trick. I got that impression, too, man. That, yeah, maybe once he grabbed the gold and he was, the son was going to also, like, get sucked into it. But it seemed like he was sincere. I don't think, I think it had to do something with it.

I don't think the God that was stuck down there. I don't think he has to completely grab you. I think he just has to touch you. Yeah, they talked about that in the movie at some point. I was very disappointed, Brian, that I did not get a song and dance number because I've always been told every Indian movie. There was some musical choices in here. There were definitely some musical choices. Yeah, but they didn't all get up and do a big musical number.

That's what I was holding out for, man. I honestly, when certain music came on, I was like, this is about to happen. same here man thought it was coming for sure I'm being a little harsh on it dude I mean yeah considering the movie was made in 2018 that's only five years ago dude you think the CGI could have been a little better

but I don't know like that maybe it's an Indian thing dude because that RRR movie it was like one of the biggest like because you see I've seen it I haven't seen the whole movie but I've seen a couple of trailers for it and I swear like the tigers that are chasing after the guy, definitely look like computer animated tigers big time.

Maybe the effects is not a big deal to them. Maybe it's about the story and the acting. That's kind of what I'm thinking too, man. That would make sense. Because I thought everybody was good in this movie. Did you? Aside from the child, because he was a little whiny. Both versions, his son and the younger version of him,

the main star. Right. Which I kind of hated him as a child because you got that scene where his brother falls from the tree. Mm-hmm. And the mother comes back. And I thought that was a rough scene because she doesn't even have to tell you what happened to him. She just breaks down. And all he could talk about is where's the treasure.

Where's the treasure? We need to get to. You little shit. Handwriting on the wall. But did he, when he grew up, did he not have just an absolutely fabulous mustache? Oh, that was a thing. beauty. Yeah, I don't know, man. Not my cup of tea. Not the greatest film I've seen this year, in my opinion, but I see where all your points are valid. I mean, yeah, it's a great,

it's a great cautionary tale about, you know, greed and, you know, at first he needs it, right, so that he can stay alive and take care of his family. But then his true nature kind of comes out. He starts, he wants on the gold. We really should have Philip on this episode. He becomes so greedy because there's this saying when he's basically he's telling his son, like

now is the time I'm about to show you what I do. And then after he shows him and they almost have a mishap and they get some gold and they come back and he shows his safe.

And the son's like basically why do you keep doing this you have enough here for a lifetime and it's that greed it's that obsession and and he just did not turn out to be a great person because I believe he's an alcoholic and addicted to opium and cheating on the wife with his in-house mistress and that's about 16 years old yeah which I didn't see what she because there's a scene where he's offering the son's offering her

a gold coin. Yes, so he could get a little bit too, right? Yeah, because he's saying when I get older, I'll marry you. And then she's all like, how old are you? And I'm like, well, how old are you? I was thinking the same exact thing, Brian. He's definitely a lot closer to her age than the dad. That's for damn sure.

Yeah. Must have been that mustache, dude. And you can see he's definitely picked on his father's ways because his answer to her. She said, how old are you? And he was like, does it matter to you? Right. And then he held out the gold coin. And then she was like, I'll take that.

Yeah. But then she just ends up giving it to the father later. I think this movie might have worked better as a comedy, dude. I think you're just mad there was no dance sequences in it. Very angry. Very disappointed. I thought the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the setting was great.

Right. I thought the wardrobe was great. I thought, you know. Oh, yeah, and you had it taken, oh, I'm sorry, you had it taken place when the British were colonizing India, right? Yeah.

You brought up the monsoon stuff in the trivia. I think that worked out great for the movie because I believe that that area was supposed to be cursed with forever rain or something like that. Sure, sure. And I thought, like, the grandmother that they held locked away.

That was supposed to be an ancestor. I thought she looked creepy. That was creepy. And there was a lot of things that work for me. I do see your points, though, especially about the CGI. And me and Ness were talking about it on the Expendables episode. Oh, boy. Whenever we see CGI fire, we cannot not think of you.

All right. Well, what did you think about Tumbad, man? One to ten. Ryan? I'm kind of bouncing back and forth on a six and a half on a seven. And most of that is... Oh, wow. Okay.

Most of that is the story. I thought it gave a good insight on the whole mythology of this culture. And I thought that, like I said, it was an excellent story about someone's greed and obsession. And I thought some of the effects were pretty good. Some of the CGI effects were pretty bad. But I think... True. I think off at the end of the day, I think the story really worked for me.

So I'll give it a 6.75. Not bad. Not bad. This movie definitely disproves Gordon Gecko's theory from Wall Street. Greed is not good, right? No. So if nothing else had accomplished that. I'll go four and a half, man. It was almost at the halfway point for me.

Like you said, story was good. characters were very well developed. I did enjoy the, I appreciated that they brought us that flashback scene at the beginning to kind of set it up and show you what kind of person we're dealing with here. So, four and a half, man, almost half good.

Not the worst movie we've seen this year by a long shot. So how is our second feature going to compare to this when you think, Brian? We shall see. Okay, you don't, you don't want to tell. Do you? No.

Okay. Tell what I need to. Well, we've got a new. It's the return. It's the return of our, or it will be here in a little bit, the return of our, spoiler alert that we haven't done in a few weeks.

So it is a brand new movie. 2023. It lives inside. Tamara, what's going on with you? All the stories we are growing up. They're all true. Lives inside. It doesn't kill you right away.

It feeds on you slowly. And it's ready. Teach your soul. And we'll do a little trivia here. An Indian-American teenager, struggling with her cultural identity, has a falling out with her former best friend and in the process,

unwittingly releases a demonic entity that grows stronger by feeding on her loneliness. director and writer was Bishul Dutta, also known for Life in Color and the TV show Triads. Now, this movie is based upon the legend of the Pishasha, which is flesh-eating demons in Darmic religions. And by the way, I had no idea how important religion was in Indian culture, but we learned in these two movies it is. But these are demons that appear in Him. Hindu and Buddhist mythologies. So,

uh, all right, it lives inside, Brian. Was this worth going to the theater for? I actually enjoyed this one too. Uh, like you said,

I learned a lot of, about the culture, uh, how much, uh, religion and, you know, mythologies play into it.

And, um, I like the story of this young girl who is trying to fit in, trying to, uh, relate to the other kids in there. So she's kind of losing

track of her own you know. Well, she's becoming Americanized, right? Yeah. As they say. I mean, and she's torn between two worlds, which I really like that aspect. I love the conversations with the parents because you got the mother who's just like super traditional and you got the father who's more like, no, just kind of let her,

thing. Yep, let her grow, let her be her own person. We're here in America. She's an American, right? Yeah, which that's a very tricky thing to do, you know, because you can't forget who you are, but you've got to let someone kind of grow also. So it's a very hard thing to balance. And I love that, that whole story aspect to it. And then you got the other, you get the introduction to the other girl. I think her name was, I know the main girl was Sam and the other girl was. That's right. Sam. Yeah, Sam for sure. Tamira.

You get Tamira who. Tamira. Is kind of been shunned and made to be the outsider because she is not trying to be Americanized and stuff like that. You know, it's more traditional with her culture. And I loved all the stuff with the demon because we didn't need to see it right away and we didn't. Agreed. Yeah. And then when we finally saw it, it was at a.

a pivotal scene in the movie, and I love that we got a chance to wait, because for all we know, this could not have been happening. This just could have been her losing her mind or something, and I thought they kind of played that off very well, and I thought the acting was pretty fucking strong in this one. I'm not familiar with the main actress. My daughter says she's in 13 Reasons Why, the Netflix show. Yeah, a lot of the kids watch that. That's a pretty show, I think.

She had seen the trailer and was like, oh, I know her. She's this, you know, such and such from that show. And that was Sam, right? Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Another plane flying blind. They're coming to get you.

The only other actress I knew is predominantly an Indian American cast, which I liked for this movie. The only other person I knew was Betty Gabriel, the teacher. And she was from Get Out and Upgrade and stuff like that. She's been in several movies that we've covered. for the podcast. So I thought it was a pretty strong effort. I know it didn't do well in the theater. I think it only made like $3 million over the weekend.

That's a shame, man. They must not have marketed it very well. So, but I thought it was a very strong effort from this director. Definitely, I would like to see more of this culture, especially with ethnologies. So if he was to do another movie, I definitely would be interested in seeing it. They did a great job getting that across, right, with us not being in that culture to get kind of an understanding.

So religion is important to every culture, I guess, right? I mean, everybody has their own ideas of, but yet it's kind of like the same exact religion. It's weird. It's like, because I have a predominantly Catholic family, and it's almost like the same. They do the same thing. I noticed they didn't make the sign of the cross, but they made like a weird sign. It was just like a cross. it's like there's no difference in the religions.

It's bizarre how that is. And then they get on their knees to pray. Like they all get on their knees to pray, right? And it's very, people like just kind of stop and put away your differences and just understand that even though it may seem different on the outside, you find a lot of similarities between cultures, you know, at the end of the day. Well, that was a big message in the movie. and I think more people need to hear that.

I think that's a very important message. So, yeah, I enjoyed that aspect of it. What did you think about the makeup on her friend? You said her, what was her name, Tamara again? I think, yeah, Tamara. So they didn't overdo it, right? They didn't, like, try to Sega Genesis CGI her or anything, right? They just had the dark eye makeup and she was walking around kind of like a zombie.

She definitely looked like somebody that. there's something going on, hasn't slept, hasn't kept up with herself. I think, like you said, they didn't overdo it. And when Sam started getting into that situation, you can see the gradual change in her appearance, too. So I think they did an excellent job in that. Yeah, yeah, agreed, man. They didn't like overdo it, right? They didn't try to make it look way too far out there or anything like that.

and well done. I mean, I think it was a pretty a well-done film, man. I think more people should see this. I'm kind of shocked that with the way horror is going right now, maybe they should have saved this one for October, Brian,

and thrown it out there for us or something. Yeah, I think this one will, because I know it's already getting a Blu-ray release in November, so that means it'll probably, it'll probably be available to rent or stream in October. Sure.

So I think it'll find life streaming. Yeah, I hope so. What did you think about the relationship with her and the other students? Like, it was really obvious she was very Americanized, right? Yeah, I... Barbie girl type. Yeah, I can kind of relate in some ways because I myself, I'm my mother's Korean, and a lot of people like the scene where she's like, oh, say this in Hindi.

Yes. A lot of people like, oh, you're Korean. How do you say... Instagramming her, right? Yeah, I've had people like, oh, you're Korean. Oh, how do you say this? Or say this for me. I'm like, I'm not a fucking, not a puppet or something like that.

This talks for you, you know. So there was stuff I can see was offensive. But, you know, a lot of kids that are not from here that are trying to, you know, get more comfortable with their surroundings and, you know, like he said, being more Americanized, you know, have to go through this kind of stuff. And definitely that girl, I thought something was going to happen to that girl. Yeah, we don't want to give too much away yet. But there was a couple of pretty decent kids.

It was it, it was PG-13, right? Yeah. I didn't get that. Yeah, I got that impression. But I think they did a decent. recent job with what they had to work with, especially the swing scene, the kid on the swing set. All right. Scores so we can spoil?

I'm going to go 7.75. Nice. All right. I thought this was well-acted. I thought another great story, another look into this culture. Like you said, religion plays a very big factor into it. Yeah, huge role. It gave you a look at somebody trying to struggle with being traditional and being more modern and Americanized.

And I thought it just kind of told that story well. And yeah, both of these movies, I thought the story was really excellent. Yeah, 7.75. Well, yeah, this one I'll go 7 and a half. I think the acting was top-notch, man. I'm a little pissed that I didn't get. my song and dance number. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know if there was any opportunity in this movie. There's always an opportunity for a song, Brian. There was no musical choice in here that made me think they were going to do that. Now, in Tumbad, there was some musical choices where I'm like, okay. I know the part you're talking about it. I'm like, okay. They're going to come slowly into the screen and it's going to be like a flash mob type dance scene.

Yes. Unfortunately, that didn't have. happened here, but seven and a half, so enjoyed the film, man. Spoilers? Yep. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Where should we start? I'm going to say the stupidest fucking thing in the world of this movie is to try to capture a demon in a glass mason jar. yeah it's it's it's kind of stupid but you got to you got to think about it it's from it's a young girl and that's the best she can think right to to contain the demon and i loved by the end i love the yeah i love to where she had to use herself as a vessel to contain the demon and i love to look on her face at the end because she she assured her friend don't worry this is never getting out and

then right it just kind of the camera's just on her face and you can see her eyes are like slowly kind of tearing up because she knows that's not true. Yep. And the fact that they have to at the dinner table, I don't know if you notice they were feeding her raw meat to- Oh, yeah, of course. To feed the demon because the main girl Tamara. Instead of dough dolls, it was raw meat, right?

Yeah, because the other girl Tamara earlier in the movie, when she had the demon contained in the jar, she would have to constantly feed it raw meat because. Yep. Kind of like the demon or God in the other movie, his appetite was never fulfilled. Sated? Sated or satisfied? I thought the, I thought the, you brought it up, the swing set scene. I thought that was played off real well.

That was fucking creepy, dude. That was one of our favorite scenes of the year, actually. Part of it was in the trailer, but I did not. See, I didn't see the trailer. But I did not know that was the boyfriend. Okay. So when they were sitting on the swing set, I was just kind of, oh, shit, it's going to be the boyfriend. I'm glad I didn't see the trailer.

And she kind of leaves for a second. And then I like how when the demon approach, like it would get dark. The surroundings would get dark. I did not notice that. Yeah. Because it kind of got dark. And then he just kind of felt a presence behind him. And then he just turned and looked.

And then you didn't see the demon because it just looked like an invisible force. picking him up and choking him. And it was for a PG-13 and not really a lot of blood, that was a very violent scene the way it was kind of thrashing him around side to side and then kind of punctured his neck and then just dropped him. Yeah. That was pretty awesome. Yeah, like I said, man, I thought that was one of the more well-done kills of the year

that we've seen. Like, if we had a top 10 kill list, that would be on it, for sure. And also another thing I thought was pretty interesting, that another thing this demon also fed off was negativity. Okay. So it was kind of perfect. These girls were kind of perfect for him because of

the shit they were kind of going through and it was able to feed off of that and get stronger. Yes. Yeah. And that's why, sorry, not to cut you off. No, there's a lot. There's a lot to this movie. And that's why by the end of the film you find out that Tamera is still alive because

the demon is slowly torquered. and her and kind of savoring it. Yeah, savoring it. Creepy, man. I love the line where the one friend that she has at school says, your mom, your mom looks like she's 24 years old. It's like the cool mom, you know?

Her mom did look good. Oh, hell yeah. She did. I thought, oh, man, this Indian guy who's kind of goofy, the dad, he's playing a little bit outside of his league, but that's all right. At least he had a sense of humor, right? If I was her friend, I would love to come over to their house. Absolutely. Yeah, for sure.

But yeah, it was just kind of just the way they had the setup. It was just kind of perfect because just the way he acted to do the movie. And of course he would be like, no, let her go hang out and be with her friends and do this, do that. Because they had that whole ceremony, which was super important to the mom. And they had to do the prayer. and then he just kind of like, no, go to your party. Which any kid would want to do, right? Instead of deal with that religious nonsense.

But what's, what happened to the dad? Did he not die? No. For sure he did. I thought he died too, but then you see at the dinner table when they're all kind of. But was that him? Or did she and the demons somehow create a new dad made? I don't know. I think it was him. I think it was him. I think he just got injured because I think that dinner scene took place months later.

Yes. It said what six months later or a year later or something like that? He probably had to recover and this was kind of the people involved in the incident kind of coming together to see if this demon is still contained. Is everything okay or do we have to do? Do we have to do? because the mom kind of knew what to do because she was like, we need to get this food together. We need to make an offering. And then she got in traditional clothes and said to prayer. So she, the mom came in clutch. She knew what to do.

Yes. Well, she stayed true to the religion and the culture, right? Which would show you is very important. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just thought, I thought maybe that we missed the, what, six months that the dad was in traction in the hospital. with his leg elevated. They just didn't want to show us all that.

Just kind of cut through all that. Right. Sure. All right, man. So it sounds like we both liked it. Yeah, recommend it. Good week. Good week. We'll probably do this series again

because I came across the whole list of movies, and there was a lot of ones that looked interesting. It's just Tom Bad was kind of higher up on the list, and I think it was because of the story that was told. It is. I mean, it premiered at the film critics show, film festivals.

Yeah. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. Check us out at thehorreturns.com.

Hopefully we'll have a couple of UK guests on talking about the retaliators here soon. I'm going to reach out after the show, Brian. Okay. Next week, we're going to kick off October. that magical month

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