The Horror Returns - THR - Ep #385: The Exorcist (1973) & The Exorcist: Believer (2023)

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

Nez joins us to talk some devil stuff, as we check out the brand-new Believer and the original classic. Cool of the Week includes Exorcist 2, Loki, and Ahsoka. Trailers are It's a Wonderful Knife, Suitable Flesh, and Night Swim. The podcast spotlight shines on A Cut Above Horror Reviews. And we get feedback from Gene's Reviews, Marcus Wilturner, and Matt Wood. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

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compatriots, brothers and arms, sisters and arms, and everybody else. Welcome back, demons, devils. You're all welcome here. Shit, this is an open community. This is the horror returns. And I am your host, Lance. I'm joined by Bales above Brian. Okay.

And I'm joined by Philadelphia Devil, Philadelphia, Philip. I don't know. Help me out here, guys. It's a New Jersey devil. Don't ever associate me with that shit whole town. Well, we got, we got Nez showing up later. on tonight. So we'll have the final priest, I guess, in our triumvirate that we require to exercise the evil spirits before Halloween. But in case you have a guest, this is our demon possession

episode for the year. As we've checked up, the brand new Exorcist Believer, and are we believers again and David Gordon Green? That's the question. But we're going to talk about the original. I think Brian, we did cover it for a show, or was it just kind of like a basic? A year-in maybe? Yeah, it was one of those. We covered it with another newer movie because we never thought we'd get another Exorcist movie. Yes. But it's always good to talk about it again.

It's a classic. Yeah. All right. Well, I will move the show along here. As is, like I said, Ness will show up in a little bit. But I guess we jump into Cool of the Week, because I know Phillips, you got the Cowboys on somewhere over there, right? Since you're taking up the game and recording the show.

Oh, it's not on yet. No, I'm waiting to try to pick up the stream on the NFL app. And if that doesn't work, I'll figure something out while we're going. All right. So who are they playing tonight? 49ers. Oh, that's right. The game to see who's the best in the NFC.

probably not the Cowboys but I'm rooting for him anyway now that we're talking about you want to send any special messages to Steve oh yeah from the geeks because he's a big Sam Fran fan so is Jay Black

slash Astro fans yeah friend of the show Jay Black too guys oh that's right you know what no ill will here They've got a good team.

Hopefully will be a good game. We're going to see who deserves it tonight, I think. Spoken like a true gentleman. Yeah. And me being a graduate of the University of Texas and Austin, I can definitely say, hey, I just want a good game. I don't care if we win or lose. Let's just come close, damn it.

God damn it. So close, but it's a good game. Aggies got upset too, or Aggies got upset too, didn't they? Phillip, or was that expected? Did they? I'm not sure, man. I have not been keeping up with college football at all. Dude, I, like, I wish I had some better cool of the week stuff this week, but, uh, man,

I've been working my ass off. Um, I did watch The Exorcist 2, however. The Hair to. Oh, okay. I heard it. I heard it was, uh, a heresy to the original film. Well, they make it. some interesting choices.

Yeah, they definitely make some interesting choices. It gets a little goofy on more than one occasion. But it's sort of fun to watch. I sort of look at that like I look at Star Wars. It just sort of expands the universe and gives you more of the story. And so I'm kind of okay with it. Obviously, it's not as good as the first one. And there's some parts of it that are really silly.

but other than that James Earl Jones Yeah James Earl Joe A young James Earl Jones Okay Yeah he was he was great in it and you can tell it's him I couldn't tell it was him by looking at him at first It was when he started talking I was like

Yeah wait a minute That's course Yeah So Unbestakable Yeah it's I mean Obviously it's not up to the same quality as the original exercise but it was still fun to watch.

Nice. And I hadn't seen it in 20 fucking years. Is that going to be your cool of the week? That's all I got, man. Either that or fucking love is blind, which is garbage. We went for Barbie last week to Exorcist 2. What's going on with Philip lately, Brian?

Help me out here. What's up with our guy? Watching the Blockbuster hit of the year and then sequel to a Oscar winning movie If I'd have had time I'd have watched The Exorcist 3 in the beginning And all that stuff again

Yeah, three is pretty good I like three He's a cult classic right That's I'm excited to watch that one again Because I haven't seen that one in forever either Yeah, that voice of James Earl Jones Is unmistakable, Brian, isn't it? Yeah

What was I just watching sleepaway camp and I never knew that his father is one of the camp chefs. Really? I did hear. Yeah, I did hear about that. But then when you really pay attention to his father, they sound exactly

alike. His foster. The fascia? Faja. Pics the Faja I be. You want me to go? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Like I said,

doing the 31 so I can't really talk about anything but I did check out the first episode of Loki season two oh nice you're right is that all it's out uh just yeah it's just just just first episode it came out uh Friday last Friday man I may wait on that one yeah I try it's still same of the the good stuff that you that we that we enjoy from Loki I don't quite understand where what's going on it being just the first season. It does pick off exactly where season one left off. And, uh, all right.

Ah, if I'm not saying his name right. Key, Hugh Juan from, uh, the Goonies and Indiana Jones. Yes. Yes. Oh, that guy. Yeah. He, he, he shows up in the episode as a new character. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, uh, short. Short round. Short round. Yeah, they, I'm telling, I'm telling, I'm telling. you if they would have reunited him

with Indiana Jones my score would have went up just off that oh man he has the star power he's got he should have been in there I think they started filming before everything everywhere all at once came out but that that moment where I think it was the Oscars

where him and Harrison Ford seen each other and they hugged and they were just so happy to see each other yes we could have had that on screen instead of Dial of Destiny I haven't seen it I still haven't seen it yet man

You don't need to I just take my work for it I kind of do though dude I'm got to be the completest come on Go watch a cartoon And then just envision Indiana Jones in it That's what I'll do

Go watch Roger Rabbit Is there any CGI fire or what There probably is But yeah The episode I had fun with They had a short episode. I think it was only like 40 minutes.

Kind of quick. What's his name still? King. They didn't replace him. All right. That's good. Jonathan Majors. Yeah.

Okay. Which I think is the right thing. He's not been convicted or anything. Even if, well, I hate to say even if he was. I mean, I mean, the shareholders, right, Philip? I think they already filmed the entire season, so you're kind of stuck with him.

They could refilm it all with the CGI Elon Musk or something. How would they do that? A CGI Elon Musk as King the Conqueror. There'd be so many questions. I wonder if the actor's strike applies to like documentaries and shit too, where they do like an AI thing of a real person. I don't know That's a good question Just curious

Very good question How far is it go That's all I got Oh I checked out My daughter My youngest daughter's never seen Trick or Treat So we watched that the other day

She definitely enjoyed it She agrees It's something That should be watched By everybody If they get into the spooky season of Halloween Yeah and it's not too over the top

I mean there's like one scene right where they're watching a porno on the TV in the background, but they don't... Yeah, that was a little awkward. A little awkward. But other than that, it's... Pretty harmless, though. I had to get up and walk out the room real quick. Right. Acted like I had to do something. I'm not sitting there for that scene.

It was a quick little. You don't see anything, but it's just... It's still a little better than let Jesus fuck me. Oh, we'll get there. at there because she she wanted to watch the original with me and I was like fuck yeah I was why and I thought about it and I was like well I we we did it anyway I let my daughter watch the original with me because I took her to the movie to see this one well that's the least you could have done for you but yeah that's all I've got is loki and trick-or-all right I'm gonna I'm also gonna stick with Disney Plus

I'm a couple of episodes into Asoka And Sean at Geeks This one goes out to you, brother Let's raise a toast to the Star Wars universe Wish I had one of the new stubby holders Wouldn't that be great? Half of our Patreon Patreon patrons haven't gotten them yet either

Because I was A funny thing happened on the way to the post office Although the people who did get them got them But I have decided the ones we're going to to send to Lars over in Denmark and we still owe a couple of our Australian fans, some stubby holders

that we're going to put multiple in there. I think Zem Vader. Poor Zem, man. And Lars and Zim, two of our biggest fans and they still haven't gotten. Yeah. We'll make it happen.

Not to mention Al Ramseur, probably our top fan of everyone. I don't get one either. No, I keep thinking I'm going to see him somewhere. Well, we're moving to Florida, Al, if you're listening, you know, maybe have the ship come close to Melbourne, Florida, and undock for a little while, and we'll get together for a beer and an exchange of coosies or whatever. But, yeah, no, Asoka, man, I'm loving it. How far are you in, Brian?

One episode. All right. Doing the 31 days and also doing a separate 31 with Nez. I just don't have any time for anything. All right. Well, yeah, what I love about this one is that you've got, this takes place, I guess, between, what, chapters four, five, and six, and then this hasn't quite gotten to Ray in that group yet, correct? I know this is like, were the animated series happening, the Clone Wars era, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think it's the same time frame as the Mandalorian, right? More or less. Sean can tell us.

I like the Mandalorians a little bit later. Yeah. Well, I'm enjoying the way that you, it's kind of, I love the way that you, like, it was real cut and dried in the first three Star Wars movies. Like, these are the Jedi's, they're the good guys. These are the Sith. They're the bad guys. And I like the way that with these new ones, it's kind of, you know, everybody has like shades of gray. So, you know, you might see someone in there dressed like a Jedi and they talk like a Jedi and they have Jedi powers, but they're like totally evil.

and then you might meet somebody who is, you know, you think is part of the empire, but then you find out they're working against the folks that are trying to bring the empire back. So I don't know. It's just a little bit more grown-up Star Wars for me than the original. I got you.

Definitely than chapters one, two, and three with Jar Jar and all that bullshit. Well, my least favorite. Yeah, that first one, we can kind of skip that. I kind of have a better appreciation for the pre- sequel after the sequel trilogy. Well, yeah, but like episode one is not great. It's

not the best, huh? Yeah. What's his name? Jacob Lloyd or whatever that little... Oh, a little kid. Yeah. Now this is pod racing. Yeah. The only thing good that came out of that was the arcade pod racing game. Yeah. True. That's true. All right, I'm going to go with Asoka

and we'll keep James Earl Jones in the mix. right maybe his voice will pop up posthumously still alive right oh he is around okay who is it oh it was the other

uh Sith master that died right the actor or the actor that played that ran the empire was it Peter Cushing the one that was in the well yeah where they they actually

like reanimated the character he gave him like a full scene in one of the movies oh I know they did Except with Princess Leah in Rogue One, right? I don't know anymore, my. All right.

My brain's overloaded with stuff. I don't even know what's happening. Yes. There's too much Star Wars shit. It's overpopulated at this point. Well, they do the same thing that Marvel does. True, but I will say this. I'm so overloaded with everything.

Another thing I've had on, I've just been putting shit's freak on. That's a good show. Oh, yeah. I've never. watched it i really need to check that one out it's pretty if you're a fan of eugene levy yeah his son is hilarious everybody kathman o'hare is his son the gay guy yeah yeah oh he's funny and his daughter is actually doesn't play the daughter the daughter that plays his daughter on the show is not his daughter but there's another character that runs a diner is his daughter in real life but but the guy

that's playing his son is actually his son yeah you can't you can't you can't You can't fake those eyebrows. That totally makes sense. I never realized. They are hilarious. And it's just, I've seen, I've seen the show a bunch of times. And it's just like became one of those shows I can just like throw on the background and just have it playing. Oh yeah.

Got to have those, man. Well, that's, Brian, that's one of the, that's one of the few things that I like about HBO getting rid of like a lot of their old shows and changing their name to Max. is that they did. They do have like old food network shows and travel channel shows and discovery. I call that TV

to get to sleep to, you know? Just put a couple of diners, drive-ins and dives episodes under the background. I love that. Yeah. I love that despite he fucking came up here

and didn't come to my town. Oh, come on. Went to like probably the tiniest town ever that where he couldn't drive his car there. you had to have it shipped. Oh, wow. Well, he can afford it. We can't.

All right, Ryan. We're going to watch me go through a meltdown in real time here because the Niners just scored. Oh, boy. Here we go. We'll see where it goes from there. It's not over until it's over. Yeah, no, I mean, that's just the first possession. So I'm maintaining hope right now.

It's still, yeah. let's be a fun episode Brian what's up I'll start losing my shit soon though what's up with news Brian what news uh uh all right trailers there's a there's a strike

yeah we can move on to trailers because uh nothing as far as do yes it's time Philip since uh since Frisco just school

Are you ready to go with him and get some meth at the trailer park? Let's do it. Okay. Brian is going to bring us the big. That'll make my reaction way better. The big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the first new trailer tonight, Brian? First one we're going to talk about is a slasher horror movie,

a retelling of its wonderful life called It's a Wonderful Knife. Get it? Do you get it? This stars. Not life, but nice. Like a parody. Yeah. The only people I recognized in it is Joe, Michael, Catherine Isabel, and

aged up Justin Long because he looked kind of old in this one. I think he is kind of old at this point. Well, he's something happens since Barbarian because he looks about 50 years. old in this one. I don't know. Maybe that's his character, but I'll jump about how old he is, isn't it? I'll jump in first. I'm looking forward to this one. I think that's a smart

idea of taking the It's a Wonderful Life concept. Yeah, exact same concept. Turning it into a slasher movie and I just hope the kills are awesome. The cast looks fun and yeah, I'm down for it. We need some good holiday horror movies.

Indeed. Yeah. I'm looking. I'm looking forward to silent night you know that yeah what do you think phil yeah i mean i there's a chance that it could be super chintzy and you know like some holiday movies are but uh uh i but it actually looks like it's pretty good it's got like the uh the producer of freaky or something i don't know something flashed yeah that that's that's one negative part for me they also threw in the producer black christmas yes that's not something They did not do that. Don't put that on your resume.

Yeah, they put that in the trailer, and it made me go, but Freaky was great. But which Black Christmas? Right? Well, I always, obviously. I was wondering who does these trailers that if they even really watch the movies, because sometimes you'll get, like, the new Blumhouse, and they'll throw on, like, the most randomest,

not, like, recent hit movies they put out. They'll put, like, the randomest Blumhouse titles. And I'm like, eh, It's not selling this movie. Yeah. Well, and we'll get to that in another one of our trailers tonight, too. But aside from that, it does look fun. It has that sort of same happy death day, freaky, you know, holiday comedy comedy horror vibe.

And I'm cool with it. I'll watch it. Looking at this guy's filmography, he was the director of. tragedy girls. That was a good commentary for her. That was a good one. Shout out to Al Ramseur, by the way. Speaking of Big Al.

Yeah, I'm all in. I'm all in. Actually, it started, I'm like, okay, cool. They use the name in a cute way. It's going to be just yet another Christmas horror movie. And then when she's on that, well, she's not on a bridge, right? She's under a theater marquee or something.

And she says, oh man the world just would probably be better off without me and I immediately think okay so this is going to be a direct parody then that's what we're doing here so yeah this this is overdue something like this probably should have been done years ago I'm like very much looking forward to it they should do it like scary movie with the guy with the hand with the strong hand oh yes and he's like the angel Chris Elliot yeah he's in he's in shit's Creek too like that guy. Yes, he has a pretty big part.

Isn't he the mayor of the town or something? Yeah, I think he's the, his family founded the town. I think his last name is shit. Oh, well, I'll do it. All right. Maybe I should change that at some point. It's a wonderful knife. Now, I'm not 100% sure.

I know it's getting a shutter release, so I don't know if this November 10th release is theatrical or it's shutter, but it's coming to shutter. So this November 10th probably is a limited theatrical release and then they'll probably do streaming closer to holidays. Right around the corner. All right. Moving on to our second one from the same studio. Suitable Flesh. This one stars Heather Graham, which I'm not mad at at all. seen her in a while. Been a minute. Barbara Crampton.

Which I'm not mad at at all. Bruce Davidson. Okay. And a bunch of other people. Directed by Joe Lynch. It's done some weird ones. Joe Lynch has done Mayhem with

what's his name? Glenn. Glenn. Yeah. Great movie. Everly with what's her name? name.

Oh, Samaheik. Yeah. Shoot him a prostitute movie. So you're saying he likes to work. He likes to work with a lot of our hall passes. Yeah. Oh, he did Knights of Bad Aaston. We'll skip over that one.

Ah, that was funny. Yeah, I guess. Suitable flesh. I think it looks good. It looks like more of a body swap. erotic horror, because it looks like this is definitely going to have a lot of sexy time in it. Right. I'm confused on what's happening.

I'm very confused. I think the young dude, which I think is the kid from the babysitter. I think he's just all grown up now. He's all glowed up now. I think he, one of them is the killer, which I'm assuming it's him. And somehow they body swap. And he's in her body now. killing and sucking dicks

did what he or she needed to do especially in that end scene when she's handcuffed to the chair and she was like I'll suck you dicks if you let me go hey $20 is $20 I think I'd rather switch switch bodys with Samara weaving a little self-love nothing wrong with Heather Graham

Heather Graham still looks good She does. Okay. That was Roller Girl from Boogie Nights. She never takes her skates off. I imagine she sucked a dick or two as Roller Girl, too. Just guessing. It looks interesting, and I like that Barbara Crampton's in it.

I like most of Joe Lynch's stuff, so I'm in. Right. What do you think, Naz? Uh-oh. Naz, what do you think, man? Who do me and coach? I don't think he got to watch this. I don't think he got the trailers.

Oh, okay. What is it? A suitable flesh. I might have seen it. Let me. With Heather Graham. Roller girl? Yep.

Yeah. See? Everybody has roller girl. There you go. You never turned down roller girl. No. It's okay if she leaves skates on. He's got to watch out with the legs swinging around.

Yeah, y-ye. This shit on age. No, we'll move on to Phil until Ness is done watching the trailer. Oh, hey, you're getting busy already. Whoa. What's going on in this trailer?

You watching the Red Band trailer? I don't know. Yeah. That guy's crushing it already. She ever skates on? Bye-bye. Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on here, but... She can't hear you.

obviously it's a body swap horror thing. It looks fun to me. Yeah, I'm in. Heather Grant hadn't seen her forever. I don't remember an HP Lovecraft story about body swapping, but okay. It's probably one of those loosely based off. They probably read the store. We'll probably find out what story it is, and if you read it, you'll probably be like,

oh, okay, I see what they did here. Right, right. Yeah, it sounds like we're all in. I think this is another one that was acquired by Shudder. No, they just stopped a third down. Shutter, huh? Yeah. Is that the guy from the Wonders?

That thing you do? No, I think he's that kid from the babysitter. No, the older guy. Oh. They're showing some other guy. Older guy crushing it. Oh, Bruce Davison Is that his name?

They body swapped him. She's sleeping with old dude. I don't understand what's happening. She body swapping with who? I don't know. I think the kid that's handcuffed in the beginning. I don't know that that's right. I'm not sure about that.

I'm confused. Or maybe it just now popped in my head. Maybe it's like that one movie with Denzel where the killer jumped into different bodies. Oh. Oh, okay. Fallen. Great. Yeah.

From Dane to Han to Kiano Reeves to Dane to Han, right? That makes much sense. He was in that movie? Everybody said how much you sound like Keanu in the Valerian movie, remember? I kind of did. Did I say? Was Giano and Fallin? I'm confused.

Okay. What's Keanu and Fallen? Is this your way of just bringing Dane to Han into the conversation? Pretty much, yeah, pretty much. He wasn't in Valerian, was he? Dane DeHan was. He was? In Valerian?

He was Valerian, man. Yeah, he was the guy that... Oh, I'm thinking of that one with that Jesse Eisenberg when they were stuck in that neighborhood. Oh, Viram. Okay. What did you think, Dan?

Yeah, that is that guy from the wonders. Jonathan, whatever his name is. So he's in this movie. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. The old netters. Ah, netters. I didn't hear any of it, but what I'm seeing,

yeah, I'm in for it. Because I could cut someone's head off too. Oh, wow. You didn't watch the Red Band Trail? That's the one I watched. I think I saw the edited one. I was going to say. Oh, wait a minute.

That looks good. be red band from what she said at the end with the two guards there. I guess I missed that part. Yeah. She was getting crushed by a few guys. So. At the same time? No.

First that young kid and then that young kid and then the guy from the wonders, it looked like he was crushing it to. This is all in the trailer, boys and girls. But yeah, man, I'll see it. Anything she's in and I'll see it. All right. October 27th. Could be theater.

Could be streaming on Shutter. Probably not. Yeah, probably streaming. All right. Our final trailer, Niz, you check, pull it up, check it out. While we talk about it is night swim. This is going to be the feature-link version of the 2014 short film about a woman swimming in her pool at night.

Terrorize been a evil spirit. Lance is already out. Night swim? Is that what you said? Yeah. Well, it's got a It's got a what's his name. Kurt Russell's kid in it, right? Yeah, Wyatt.

Is White Russell in it? Oh, man. Al Mighty. You hate White? He's in a movie about a fucking killer swimming pool. Give me a break. It's not a killer swimming pool. Jesus Christ.

It's not evil ball. This looks like, we'll start with you. We'll start with you, Lance, because I immediately disagree with everything you're saying right now. Did you not see the trailer then? I watched the trailer. It looked interesting. I wanted to know what the images were when she swammed to the bottom of the pool. Well, the setup looked interesting, right, because they're moving into a new house.

So there's probably a bunch of murders here or something. Weird stuff's going to happen in the house. I'll have a sudden she gets in the pool and starts going, Marco! Marco! sure enough this fucking thing pops up under oh yo okay but you gave high score let me finish okay I'm not doing last week where you kept interrupting me let me finish you gave high scores to a movie called smile

which was also based off a short film based off somebody smiling which I thought was going to be horrible but something happening in a pool you draw the line at absolutely well i haven't seen the movie either yet brian and what is your problem with wyatt russell i love white russell why how is he falling this kind of dribble because he's in this piece of shit you got to work it's like whatever you want to do my biggest concern about the trailer is that they said james won the producer of the nun that doesn't mean anything we should be used to that by now oh yeah like that's to that that.

That's the credit that you're going to pick for this. Like, who are you trying to sell this to? I do like that they're doing the same thing as Smile, where they brought the writer and the director of the short film to do the movie. Right. So maybe, I don't know, I'll give them an opportunity. I love when a short film gets picked up and turned into a featuring like film. It doesn't always work, but I just love that we possibly get, like,

like I said another smile movie short film was eight years ago yeah oh wow okay all right brie that's your homework 2014 short short short film yeah I know we're getting old I'll give it a chance Brian

I'll definitely give it a shot especially since you're probably going to make us watch it oh it's going on the schedule let me guess you're gonna make us watch that one and the one the Asian one where the guys in the swimming pool with the alligator for two hours? You want to watch that one. That's that.

What, pool? Yeah. Is that what it's called? I've scrolled across a couple of times and I get stuck on the trailer and I'm like, I really want to watch this. It's not great, but it's entertaining. Yeah. I'll just put it that way.

Nez, what did you think of a night swim? It seemed like it was just a short film because it was just that girl in the swimming pool over and over and over and over and then I don't know what that hell happened she swam under water and it got dark and I don't feel like it's going to be hard to make a feature link out of this I didn't hear any of it I just watched it but I'm interested I'm interested to see

what it looked like a screen or something or some kind of visuals at the bottom of the pool really okay I don't know maybe I think maybe I'm just reading into it more but I think it'll be more head trippy the stuff in the water than they're actually showing. Maybe she'll go in an alternate dimension or something, right? Maybe.

Okay. All right. We're going to find out. Oh, that was a Twilight Zone. Remember that one? When those little kids jumped in the pool because there was a little country boy, their parents were arguing because you can hear them arguing

in the background. Those two little kids jumped in the, they were, they went out by the pool, and then some little kid came swimming up and said, yeah, come on over to where I'm at. So they jumped in the pool and they went to another, I don't know, it was another time or another dimension, but they were, where everybody was all nice and happy, but then they kind of figured up, you know what, we got to, we got to go back to our time. So they go back and then it's still all crappy. And they're like, you know what? Spoiler alert, you should have seen Twilocks on million years ago. But they, there's more to the story, but in the end, they didn't like their real family because their parents were just miserable and hated each other.

So they dole back in the water to go to go live with those other people on that other dimension or whatever it was. You didn't see that one? That sounds interesting. No, I think I missed that. A while ago. Yeah, I mean, it could be that. It could be, probably know, it could be like gateway to hell or something that just happens to be in their pool. Right.

and it could be it could also take place outside the pool or in the home in the area or something but yeah it's got to got to be more than just her in a swimming pool and getting attacked right i mean yeah because the simple answer would just be stay away from the pool they had that whole movie of that family that got stuck in the bathroom true that was that worked out all right yeah those girls that got stuck on that radio tower No, that's right. Yeah, it scares the hell out of me just watching that. Yeah, it was hell of good.

I don't know if I'd say great, Philip. Watch that. It was. It was. Oh, man. I watched it on my phone and I was dizzy. Speaking of that, what's some of the Cowboys, they better not lose to the weak-ass Niners.

Yeah, we're, update on score, Philip? Uh, still seven nothing, niners. Okay. Not looking great. The defense is. That's early. Fuck, now they got a first down. Feel like Steve somewhere

doing the little dance. Not looking good, man. Not looking good. Santa Clara is garbage. Yeah, offense is not looking. Is that who they really are? Yeah, that's not in San Francisco. You're in Santa Clara. In America.

All right, night swim coming to theaters January 5th. Any feedback, Philip? Yeah, let's see. This week we're going to shine the podcast. spotlight on a cut above horror reviews. Jacqueline, Hydroberg, and John watch the review, watch and review the good, the bad, the bizarre of the horror movie genre.

We are back every week with a new episode. Check them out. Cut above horror reviews. Nice. Gene's reviews. Check him out. He's funny. Says, I just got through listening to your review of It's. lives inside great review i agree and i loved it uh in the words of nes it was hell of good maybe it will make some money on streaming and blue ray sales uh every halloween we can count on marcus will turner to bring us some outstanding reviews and this year is no different so we've got a few of them to get through here uh number one is sick uh conceptually the growth of the co-covid

horror has spawned several legitimate contenders in the scares and meta-commentative category. Each feature capturing the gripping and substantial paranoia of the times where the worldwide pandemic turned society upside down in abundant ways. Add Kevin Williamson's latest efficient thriller to the mix, which utilizes and subverts past and present slasher tropes, elevating tension in solemn measure. Nasty yet balanced violence, fierce chases, competently good and bad

characters, as well as vicious kills, make this the absolute most out of, make an absolute most out of the structural concise runtime. All encompassed by a message that speaks to the unceasingly

humanistic nature of a justified suspicion, rampant mistrust, technological voyeur, egoistic ignorance and vaccinated vengeance who wrote this? Marcus Will Turner I sure wasn't the dictionary they wrote this securely perched on the shelf

of ambiguous morality 8 out of 10. Wow. The guys got away with words, dude. That's why I look forward to October every year. Yeah. Now I just have to read it. We got number two is trick our treat. There you go.

This one's a little one line review, a festive cult classic that ceremoniously earns its moniker among the genre. 7.5 out of 10. All right. I agree. Yep. Good score. Number three is Tales of Halloween. I don't think I've seen that one.

Another seasonal All Hallows Eve anthology that's jam packed with viably quirky damning shorts that bounce and flail all over the qualitative. spectrum. Considering there's 10 stories from 11 directors plus an assortment of recognizable horror legends and oh that's that guy or woman from whatever actors.

It's disappointing how little of his following how little of a following this is accumulated since its conception 6 out of 10. Yeah, I don't know even know that I've heard of it. I think we might have reviewed it years ago. Probably.

Okay. It ain't trick or treat, right, Brian? Yeah, it's got its good stories, but it's like most anthologies. You know, some are good, some are bad. But he's right. It definitely is one of those movies where it's like, oh, it's that guy. It's her. It's that person.

And number four is no one will save you. Isolating and unpredictable, the latest home invasion thriller injects a sprawling and anxiety-ritting intergalactic twist to the premise. What does that mean? I haven't seen it yet, so have you guys seen it. No spoilers. Philip, you'll like it. I'll leave it at that.

It's written for you, Philip, right up your alley. Transposing its initial formula into an entirely enigmatic affair. The creative edition of a 99% dialogue-less script, allowing the primary focus to be extensively on the vast yet claustrophobic setting, seamless effects and tight scares is what gallantly pulls this on the map as one of the biggest

surprises of the year. Nine out of ten, wow. Wow. I think me and Lance will be talking it up on our weekly wrap of. Check it out. Yeah, you definitely have to check it out. Do us? What, really?

Yep. All right. Ready. All right. uh number five is what keeps you alive uh bottom line a harsh appalling cautionary tale reminding us never to truly trust a too good thing rose tinted glasses and all five out of ten hey i don't think i've seen that one i don't think i have either i mean don't name uh number six is the monster uh one of my favorite idiosyncratic yet brilliantly produced production studios. A-24. Oh, okay. And director and writer Brian Bertino of the Strangers fame crafts a basic traditional creature feature and infuses it with such unwavering, reaffirming humanity. It reaches another level of quality expeditiously. As usual, A-24 delivers a lingering scares, what lies beneath the surface of those scares.

along with the human condition and what truly lurks in the darkness that can annihilate the entire ordeal. 8 out of 10. Was this a Gareth Edwards film? No. What's not? Brian Bertino?

Is it monsters or the monsters? The monster. The monster, right? Is this the one with the mother and the daughter? Yeah, in the car. Okay. Yeah, I've seen this one. Okay.

Yeah, it was good. Very metaphoric. Yeah, it's definitely the situations are in place to talk about other things. Right. Yeah. Without spoiling the movie. But nothing controversial, which is nice. All right.

And we got Matt Wood says, the mom in It Lives Inside is so hot. can touch the hynie. Ain't that right, Kate Pollack. Oh, hey. Believe me and Lance, that's something we definitely agreed about the movie. Yeah. Yeah.

What is this on? It lives inside. Definitely a milf. It's the Indian mother came out last week. Yeah. Last week before, something like that. Something like that. No song and dance number, though.

If we do the movie. unfortunately. All right, on to our featured attractions. This week, we hit some religious horror with the Exorcist Believer, as well as, again, the 1973 original. All right, let's see what to be. Keep away.

That's always mine. Fuck me. Fuck me. As it deserves to be reviewed twice. we'll start with the original when a young girl is possessed by a mysterious entity her mother seeks the help of two Catholic priests to save her life director is William Friedkin also known for Killer Joe

and the night they rated Minsky's Rest in peace Yep oh he just passed away didn't he this year The Night they rated Minsky's man you went back for that one Philip I think this is his first movie I don't even know what that is Writer

is William Peter Blattie Also known for the ninth Configuration A little trivia In the scene where Reagan Projectile Vomits at Father Karris The vomit was intended to hit Jason Miller In the chest

But the plastic tube being misfired Hit him in the face His reaction of shock and disgust While wiping away the vomit is genuine and Miller admitted in interviews that he was very angered by this was dead. He looked angry.

Hope it wasn't real vomit. Pea soup? Is that what it was? I had pea soup and I think they mixed something else. Oh, cool. Due to death threats against Linda Blair from religious

zealots who believed the film glorified Satan, Warner Brothers had bodyguards protecting her for six months after the film's release. That's insane. Crazy. I don't... Did it glorify Satan?

I don't think that it did it all. I mean, all of this is like pretty standard, like, real exorcism shit. Yeah. From what I saw, it was... Different times. Satanic, panic, right now? Different times. Epitome of evil that need to be vanquished.

Mm-hmm. Anywho, Ness, what did you think about the Exorcist? O.G. I didn't see this in its initial run. I saw it when it hit TV when I was a kid. Yeah. But I did know what it was because I remember it was at some of the theaters where I grew up. And this is in the days when they really went for it with the Marquise. had the big huge exorcist letters in there it wasn't just up on the marquise like they really went

forth i remember seeing the stand-ups and everything in the in the lobbies uh back in old days boys and girls under the movie posters they used to have lobby cards remember those lants oh yeah so i remember sitting there looking at the lobby cards going well this looks good but i didn't get to see it so uh when it hit tv of course it was edited and and chopped up but It would still, it scared me when I was a little kid. I actually didn't see the full version of it until VHS hit. Because I think when it came on TV, there was no VCRs and no VHS yet. That's how old Lantan I are.

So when it finally hit TV, I watched it and I thought it was cool. When it hit VHS, I finally got to watch it. And watching it now, that new version with the little. extra stuff they threw in that they cut out with her coming down the stairs i did like that i thought that was really neat definitely the best part it was scary when i was a kid i still get still get a little creeped out with it but it wasn't as i remember being like super scared when i was little watching it like i don't want anything like this to ever happen so but watching it now since i've seen it so many times. I mean, again, I still get

some, I get enjoyment out of it, and it is creepy. I loved Linda Blair's performance. Watch that cursed films on Shutter, if you guys haven't seen that yet. That was really cool. That little short documentary they did on it. She did get hurt

while they were filming it, being strapped and throwing all over the place. She tweaked her back. Yeah, the threats and everything, especially when it came out like this. I mean, everybody was getting threatened because saying it glorified Satan. I didn't think so. Even when I was a kid, I didn't think so.

I'm not a religious person. I don't go to church or anything. But as a movie and still watching it today in 2023, I wish I got to go see it in the theater when they did it a few months ago, but I missed it. And I did miss that still, but Brian, did you get that? No. I'm kicking myself. I missed it. Do I need it? No, but I like the cover. Did you go watch the re-release in like 2000 or whatever? Yeah, when they added the crab walk.

Yeah, I did go see that. But it's a good movie. I really liked what was going. I didn't read the book, so I have no idea what's changed, what was left out. Everybody in it, everyone that acted in it was amazing. I loved all the cinematography. Of course, the score of the Exorcist theme, that's always. creepy every time you hear it and um at some point i want to go over was it georgetown where that

where this yeah where the stairs are yeah i want to go to that just to see it um but i mean it's an awesome film i mean i still get enjoyment today it is a classic uh do i watch it every year this time no i just whenever i feel the urge to to watch it i'll throw it in but um i really enjoyed this film I'm going back to the very first time being scared, then watching it when I was a teenager, still being a little scared. And today, man, I still get creeped out by some of it.

And Blair, awesome woman, if you guys have never ever, if you ever get to meet her at a con or wherever, she's really cool. She's really nice. I don't know how old she is now. Still beautiful woman.

And, yeah, I love this film. It's still, it's still, it still gets you in the, it gets you in the feelings. because you feel for Reagan's character

and you feel for her mom and what she had to go through this tragic event and I mean even make you feel I can't remember the name of the priest at the end I mean it makes you feel for them and even the main exorcist guy

what's his name? Yeah the guy from Force Awakens if you guys remember him in that but yeah I mean Linda Blair is 64 Oh wow I probably I must have been This is a few years when I met her

So she might have been like 60, 60, maybe 59 when I met her. I met her at San Diego Comic-Con. It was a while ago. But awesome film. I love this movie. Can't say that for the second one. The heritage. See, that was my cool of the week because I just watched the second one.

And it's weird to have Linda Blair in like this see-through negligence with boobs. That's funny. I was just about to ask you. You feel weird that the movie kind of sexualized her and she's supposed to be a young girl? Well, and I mean, everybody, got to say, but, like, her face was still like a bit, like, it's, it's like Selena Gomez for me. Her face is still like a little kid. Oh, no. She's got, it's like adult body, and I'm like, you know, I don't know how I feel about this.

Speaking of Selena Gomez, that one movie, Spring Breakers. Yeah, they were of age, but I just see little. Yeah, that's a good movie. Yeah, that's a good movie, though. And it probably doesn't help that she's, like, standing next to, like, Vanessa Hudgens, who clearly looks like a woman. Yeah, in every way. I just feel like a dirty young man.

I mean, they're all of age, but when you've seen them as little kids acting and this and that. That's what I'm saying. And maybe it's because I'm so used to Linda Blair in like the original Exorcist where she's just like this innocent little kid. And then suddenly she's got her tits out. And I'm like, what are we, what are you doing? I don't, I don't think I like this. That's like Angela from Sleepaway Camp.

Shout up to Felicea Rose. I love her. She's an amazing woman. I would, every time, what they did the first time, a few times that I met her. I told her, I said, I fell in love you when I first saw Sleepaway Camp. And when I see her today, she's older than I am, but I just still see Angela when I see her. She's done a slew of movies, but she still looks young. Because when we went to see that film and she did a commentary for it, which was amazing.

If you guys ever get a chance, she does it from time to time. So definitely go see it that way. Seeing her on the screen as is young, I think she was like maybe 13 or 14 or whatever when she filmed the film. and then talking or after. I just see young Angela. I still just see that.

Yeah. Even now. Cowboys got to football. All right. Fumbled at the fucking red zone, man. Although I think they only had it because we fumbled. So whatever.

Back to the movies. Still 07. All right. Brian. What do you think? Same as our original review on it. It is a fucking classic. Everything is just top-notch.

The acting, the cast, the storytelling. The story breezes through. There's not a dull moment. I don't feel that there's a lull in this movie at all. And even when there's not really anything crazy going on, you're still entertained by what's on the screen. And another thing that I don't think I spoke on. originally was the score

not just the main theme but just the music throughout sets that mood for what's happening whatever you're watching the score sets that move for what's on the screen and it's still to this day it's still shocking

to me after me being as old as I am still watching it today just seeing this little girl saying the things she's doing saying and doing the things she's doing is just I don't even even know how I would even react if I was in that situation. And then as you brought up that Linda Blair got hurt during that scene, what's her name, Ellen Bernstein.

She also got hurt, the scene where Reagan slaps her and she falls back. They had a rope tied to her waist, so when Reagan smacks her, two guys are just yanking on the rope. And they like, and they injured her, I think to the point where she still has back problems to this day. Wow. That's a curse film. Yeah, watch the curse films. You find out about the serial killer that was in the movie. Yeah.

In the beginning. The guy, and he's in one of the, when she's getting treatments at the hospital, the guy with the beard, the assistant. He's a real-life serial killer that got caught after the movie came out. Holy shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, the movie was already out when they found out. Yeah.

Wow. It was too late. Too late. Too late to pull him out. They couldn't just CGI him out. No, they couldn't erase him. Just everything holds up. The makeup effects are fantastic.

All the effects are fantastic to me. And just Linda Blair, just for that age to pull this roll off. Sure. Believingly. Not just delivering the lines, but just like, when the demon takes hold of her, and then she just looks up at whoever's talking to her

and gives him that stare. You believe she's somebody else than the sweet little girl that she was portraying at the beginning. So this is an all-time classic and one of the best horror movies to ever come out. Yeah, they don't try to overdo it, right? Brian, like just enough makeup and they don't try to... Of course, thank God they didn't have the CGI back then. Yeah, like that scene where they're doing the hypnosis and she's answering all the questions. She's just the sweet little girl that's just being tormented. right and then you could see the switch happen and then she just looks up at the doctor and you can tell that's not Reagan anymore

and you feel like that's not that's you you think it's not Linda Blair anymore I mean she's she's had a good career but most of the people when you talk about Linda Blair they immediately go to this film nobody goes to roller buggy or hell night Yeah, repossessed or they don't go to Hell night. Of course They don't. They don't go to airport.

The biggest movie she was ever in. Right. Airport 75. They don't go to Sarah T. What's the one we reviewed? With Linnea Quigley in it. Played her sister.

Is it like a martial arts movie or something? No. Lenea Quigley gets like raped by a bunch of guys and then Blair has to Yeah, I'd hurt everybody. Savage Streets. Yeah, that's the one. I mean, nobody brings up those movies.

I mean, she's been in a ton of things, TV as well. Everybody brings up all these movies that nobody's ever fucking heard of. There's a few of them that were pretty big hits. I mean, I like this film, but... Hell, not the Exorcist. I love Hell Night a little bit more. Yeah. Because that was more of the, just an 80s.

And it looked like an old hammer horror movie. Yeah, I love that. Plus, she was older, so I, and all that. And I love the guys that were in it, I loved all of them. If you guys haven't seen Hell Night, definitely check that out. Then do some research on the two main actor guys in it. There was some good that came to those two guys over just some guy loving Hell Night. Watch, go lick them up.

But yeah, awesome. Jesus, fucking Christ. 14 nothing giant anyway when did you first see this lance bring a couple priests in man let's what do you think about the exorcist all right well so when I

when I first saw those big posters and cutouts in the movie theater nez it I was fucking terrified dude because like the urban legend part of it was bigger I was what was it 73 so I was what five years old like kindergarten first grade

something like that so like the urban legends and then you hear about people passing out in the you know in the theater and throwing up and stuff like that while they're watching it and it's like oh man this is going to be like the biggest baddest you know worst movie I could possibly see and then I watched this movie when I was I don't know probably about 10 10 or 11 years old like you're saying it was on cable TV late at night or something and it and frankly it bored the fuck out of me and I was like oh shit man I'm like you know the scene where the priest which you know it's an iconic scene now right where he's standing there with the briefcase and he's under the streetlight you know and i was i remember i remember that scene just because it was iconic but other than that i was kind of actually kind of bored by it because i was like oh i wanted to see all this action like from the very beginning like blood spurting and people throwing up at the in the first five minutes of the movie and i didn't see all that so when i went back and and saw the movie again like in my teens

I got more into it because by then I was starting to read do a lot of reading and I was reading a lot of Stephen King and Dean Coomte and stuff like that, a lot of horror books. I'd seen a lot more I guess deep horror movies rather than just like the ice cream man and that type of thing

that are just silly from the beginning and I was more appreciative of it and I was starting to really like the movie then but I think it was about the time that I saw it when I had become a parent. And that's when this movie fucking hit me because, yeah,

there is the supernatural aspect of it. I think they play it perfectly. And I think that, you know, especially if you've been raised Catholic or, you know, you have someone in your family who's been raised Catholic, this movie's going to hit home for you in a lot of ways. Because the Catholic religion is considered

to like the utmost authority on exorcisms and things of that nature. And it was just a nice clean cut plot. And, you know, you had the two different fathers, one who was worried about his faith, and then one who was the old expert, but maybe not quite as strong as you thought he was going to be, as it turns out, didn't, you know, had problems with his heart, things of that nature. So, like all the elements were in place, but the thing that really got me about this movie,

like I said, when I became a parent, and I realized that if something like this happens to your child or your grandchild, and you're like completely and utterly helpless to do anything about it, it's just got to be the most helpless feeling in the world. She was very well to do. They had a big house. They had servants. She was a big time movie star,

cutting deals and stuff like that. But with all of her influence, all of her money and power, she was completely helpless to do anything for this child. The doctors were a little, it was a little weird because she immediately suggested

psychiatric treatment or a therapist and after all their tests they were like you know what would probably be best she probably should see a therapist yes well as Ness would say it was a different time right so I don't know

let's hook your daughter up to all these crazy machines that look very painful It's a great story. From start to finish, it's a great story. You know, when looking back on it, it's, I can understand why I was bored the first time I watched it. And after what Nez said tonight, that even shines more light on it,

because I'm sure they did cut a lot of the more violent scenes out of it. Like, you know for a fact that they weren't using the language, and I'm sure the crucifix scene probably wasn't in that version that I saw when I was 10 years old, It was on late night CBS or whatever. So that's how when I saw, I heard all this stuff about the movie, just all the highlights. All the buildup, right? The throw up, the crucifix stabbing and on all the cuss words.

And when you see that on CBS, I mean, it was just, they can only show you whatever they could show you. And it wasn't much. And you got the story and what was going on. But you wanted to see all the effects and the violence and the vulgarity of it all. You didn't see any of that. So when I saw it on VHS, I was like, oh, okay, this is what I missed. I was like, all right, cool. So, but yeah, I understood it more when I was older, watching it as a little kid.

Like you, I was bored. I wanted to see all this possession stuff. And we didn't. That's what we were there for, right? Yeah, I mean, because when you look at books or everything, anything, when it was in People magazine or whatever, they showed you the images of how she looked and all this. and then you read a little bit and they kind of explain it, but when it came on TV,

regular TV, not cable TV. There was no cable back when we saw this on TV. And it was just edited up. So, I mean, it was probably, I don't know how long this movie is, but I'm sure it was like, probably like 20 minutes less than... At least, yeah.

Well, they added commercials instead, right? Well, and I sort of felt the same way about the original alien where, like, it had been built up to me. as super scary and all this. And then when I watched it the first time and I was like, I don't know, 10 or 11. Right. Like I was super fucking bored like it. I mean, you know, there's some cool scenes in it.

But I was like, golly, man. We got to just drift through nothingness in space to get there. Was that your first time watching aliens or did you watch aliens first? No, I didn't watch aliens first. I watched that one first. And then I watched aliens. and I was like, this is way fucking better because it was more of an action movie.

But I appreciate Alien a whole lot more now. When you first heard an alien, did everyone just tell you on what, what were the highlights of it? So that's what you were waiting for? Yeah, I was like waiting on the highlights and it was supposed to be really super scary and all this. And it was just,

it felt so slow and droning and silent. And it made me want to go to sleep. I've told the story a million times. When I first saw Alien, saw it that weekend that night it came out on Friday because we went to go see something else but I was looking over on the other screen I didn't know what it was I just thought it was a sci-fi movie oh cool I had Star Wars already this come out before or after Star Wars I can't remember but I was already into sci-fi so I was like oh cool I just started watching because

you see them in space and yeah I mean not hearing anything and go like okay what's what's happening in this movie I mean it is slow if you if you never heard of it and you just or if you hear about the chest buster and all this and everything right you expect that scene that's the scene you expect that from the get go and you don't get any of that so but uh as as far as me watching it like that for the very first time because i was like okay something needs to happen and then when it did happen it was like cool from all the hand but that was pretty much just the main scene that was exciting with with the exorcist everyone you they'll talk about either the crucifix scene or when she throws up the pea soup they talk about

those two scenes the most are or when her head goes around yeah i mean all all that's in it but it's not like every minute's just a lot of talk and everything even from her yeah the lines that she spuse yeah it's just a lot of dialogue so i again older watching that you appreciate it for but yeah for me watching it when i was a kid for the first time i remember being bored out of my mind until something exciting happened. Philip, did you like this in the first time you saw it? You know, I can't remember specifically the first time that I saw it. The time when it really clicked for me was when they re-released it

and I went to go see it in the movie theater. And I literally jumped out of my fucking seat when she came down the stairs backwards. That shit scared the hell out of me. And that's when I was like, okay, this is the scariest movie I've ever seen. And it's still still stick. I think that it holds that trophy. And, uh,

strong words. Yeah, I'd like, I think it's a, a fucking masterpiece, really. Even going back and rewatching it now, it's just like the, the, the cinematography and the music and the, and. Yeah, that tubular bells, that sound track. Not, he's got it. He's come out with another one, too, a newer one. And not even the music. It was, it was just the sound editing. Yeah, the score.

Like, okay. Yeah. where they would just like they'd throw in a really loud train going by or something right after a really silent spot. Yeah. And it's not like a jump scare, but it's jarring. Yeah. Well done. A lot of the editing was like that, the scene where he finds out his mom's in the hospital. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then in the middle of his conversation, what I'm assuming was his uncle. It immediately cuts right into a scene of him boxing. Yeah.

Yeah. Man, that's the little thing you don't really notice. Was that scene of him boxing in the original version? Because I watched the director's cut this time. I haven't watched the original one in a long time. I don't know why that wouldn't have been in there. I don't remember. I mean, I think I've seen the one with all the extra scenes more.

Yeah. Well, yeah, I've definitely seen that one more, but I feel like they added a lot of scenes in the very beginning of the priest in wherever the hell he was, Egypt, Africa, something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, when he found the relics. Yeah. But I think they added a lot more into that.

Mm-hmm. I wasn't sure about the boxing scene. Yeah, I can't remember, but I just really took notice of it this time, because it just came on and it kind of made me jump up, start shadow boxing. It was like, whoa, what are we doing? Yeah. well but because i remember that scene later on where he sees him running around the track and he's like you look like a boxer and he's like you look like fall new oh he he uses it later he beats the

shit out of regan like don't know far and then uh that scene when reagan goes in for um like uh not the scan the scan was crazy though i guess that was like an early CT scan but like when she goes in for some kind of like psychotherapy treatment I don't I don't I don't think it was

in that order or I don't know what they did with the original but that seemed out of place to me because it was like she didn't really have anything going on

and they were just like oh here's a psychiatrist do some tests and she like electro shock treatment yeah were they I felt like that little thing

that was hooked up to her head yeah yeah that's what I wasn't the lights like an exorcist 2 you you just watch that one yeah

well I mean I've seen it before but it's been a long time I don't remember anything from it I don't remember Exorcist 3 I need to go I want to watch that one again that was way better than two with the locusts flying around and stuff I saw two a couple of times

and I just didn't like it both times. I've never... Yeah, it's a little wild. I've never went back to it because I just didn't care for it. But yeah, I mean, the photography in general, they've always got, like, the character off to, like, the bottom third corner of the screen,

and it just makes for good composition. And, uh, dude, this is a master class on filmmaking from 1973. That's pretty fucking good. the little amazing the little demon face that pops on

every now and then was that in the original version? I thought it was I thought it was part of the urban legend right? Yeah and I also noticed

the statue is in some of the shots in the background Yeah Really? Okay Yeah I don't

Yeah they throw a few Subliminal things out there It's a creepy fucking movie man Because I know in Exorcist the beginning they show that little demon face

really quick in one of the scenes. I liked that one. The beginning. I thought it was a good movie. Dominion, I could see why they said no, remake the whole thing. I didn't really care for that. It was basically the same story, but they went

different ways that... I was going to say, isn't it basically the same movie? It is, but there's a lot that they said was garbage. you know what they basically had to get a whole new director and everything and remake this or did no ranny harland did that one yeah rennie did it did he do the first one the dominion one see i don't really know the story behind that and i didn't going to see the movie like i went to

go see dominion and i was like i've already seen this fucking movie but it wasn't quite the same one it was yeah but it was yeah but it it had like some of the like shot for shot exact same scenes i mean they did use some of it but they had to go and reshoot yeah uh some of the other stuff from what dominion was paul schrader rennie did the beginning okay oh wow paul schrader he's done some highly uh he's done he's done some some serious movies right like a lot of a lot of critically acclaimed films i think Yeah, he collaborated with Scorsesey a lot. Because from what I remember of Dominion, I don't remember them.

Because they had the little boy in the beginning that they were trying to deal with. I can't remember if that little boy was in the dream. What's his name, Damien? I don't know. It was a little black gentleman. Yeah. I don't remember. I can't remember specifically how the movie went.

I just remember watching Dominion and going, I've seen this movie before. What are we doing? Bring the TV show back. That was good. Yeah, a lot of people love the show. Gina Davis? I need to. They went a different direction in the second season,

and that's what they really got me. I didn't even see the second season. I saw the first one. And then Harold. Harold and Kumar. Oh, God. And when they said who Reagan was, I was like, right.

Okay, I'm with that. That's no Linda Blair, but all right. I love Gina Davis. I was okay with it. Spoiler alert. You haven't seen it. But you should have. It's been years. But yeah, this one's still a classic to me. Let's do scores. Nez?

I'll give it an eight. An eight for the exorcists. Do that hurts my heart a little bit. I'm sorry. Brian. Well, I make your heart feel a lot better. I give it a 10. There you go. Lance. All right, man.

I'm going to go ahead and raise my score from my original one when we reviewed it the first time. This is one of those that's going to be up there in that very top tier. So it's kind of hard not to give this one a 10 on 10. It's a perfect film. Perfect from any way you look at it. It's perfect as a horror movie. It's perfect as a, you know, as kind of a Catholic horror movie specifically. It's perfect as a cautionary tale.

It's perfect as a story of. of, you know, what happens to everyone as they lose their kids as they become their own people and the dangers and things that you have to worry about up there. And it's perfect for someone who's just got a helpless feeling about someone in their family and they can't do anything about it. So for all those reasons and more, it's a flat out 10 on 10. I give it an 8 because of the whole religion thing. I'm not a religious person.

To me, I don't want to offend anyone. But to me, it's, it's. Some of it, not all of it, is bullshit. That's why I'm kind of like, but as a movie, I enjoy this one. I got a lot to say in that one too. Now, and I am,

I've never been like particularly religious, but I'm sort of like on the, like I've changed my beliefs on a fucking dime, depending on what evidence I'm presented with. Or a dime bank, right? Yeah. Well, that too.

But, like, fun fact, they do more exorcisms today than they have ever done in the Catholic Church. Like, I watched a whole interview. Yeah, with like a legit exorcist guy who has performed like 40-something of them. Well, there's also people out there that still think the earth is flat, by the way. Well, right. But like this guy was like a legit priest. It got appointed as an exorcist and then has done all these. things and says a lot of things and he doesn't seem like he's full of shit do i believe him i don't

know i don't not believe him they're doing it right the bottom line is they're performing them so i and a lot of this stuff is based on like true stories yeah and this seems pretty faithful to that concept well the doctor that told her about it he came at it with an interesting perspective that do the exorcist because if they truly believe like a placebo effect yeah yeah makes sense yeah but this is like when I

from what I gather I mean I haven't done a ton of research into it but when they do perform some sort of exorcism this is kind of how it works and you know some of it's not quite as sensational as in some other movies and so I I like that they stayed like traditional with it. Yes. And they had the special effects. And aside from all of that,

I just, I really think it's a masterclass in movie making. This is one of my favorite, it's definitely my favorite horror movie. I think it's the scariest movie. And it's real close up there for like my favorite movie. And so this one gets a 10 out of me for sure. Yeah. same here man three was three tens in an eight ain't bad naz

was this the first movie like this i don't i can't think of specifically but like a first dealing with first and exorcism there had to have been more right like black and white surely there were right i don't know that's what maybe it was too taboo i don't know because we got all these other ones down yeah well they're a dime a dozen now even got exorcist shark

you get three a week now Well, and a lot of them are very paint-by-numbers, and this one I think was very revolutionary, you know? Exorcism of Emily Rose, that was a real person. That was good. Like, listen to some of the recordings of the actual person. Is it a legit, is she legit possessed? I don't know, man. Might have been great damage or who knows.

Yeah, I mean, I loved the movie. Dexter's sister as Emerson. as Emily Rose, whatever her name is. I loved the movie for a movie, and it was creepy, and I felt sorry for her and everything. I thought she did an amazing performance in it, but, I mean, yeah, I mean, there was a lot of people that came out afterwards that was like, because I were saying it was based on true story, and they were like, oh, this is bullshit. That didn't happen and all this. I haven't heard any of the tapes.

I don't, I kind of don't want to hear any of that. Oh, no, listen, because they have tapes of her talking and all of these different, like the seven demon voices or whatever, where it's like Nero and Hitler and Lucifer and all that. And it's pretty, it's pretty fucking creepy. It's not as convincing as the movie, but it's still, it's, it's creepy. And the found footage one, the last exorcism. The second one is all right. None of the sequel. Oh yeah. I like the first one.

So it wasn't the last. No, it was the second to last. What I'm looking up here, it seems that exorcisms were known, but I think this was the first movie to really showcase it. And maybe they're performed more now

because of movies like this. Yes. Could be. Or just because there's more people. Right. Because, yeah, I mean, there's been.

Or maybe there's some real fucking demons out there. That's a very good possibility, I think. Like the exorcism movies, they were just boom, boom, boom. Every other month you got one. I mean, maybe not in the mainstream, but indie ones. I mean, but I think out of the last two that I can remember was pretty good. And then with the possession movies, everybody and the mother started coming out with those as well. The taking of Deborah Logan.

I love that movie. That was good. That was creepy. No, there was one, the possession of... Molly or Holly, I don't remember. Molly or... To the possession. I wouldn't saw...

Whatever was in the theater and just remember being it just stupid. I was like, man, this movie's boring. There's somebody on that just blend together. Yeah. True. That Molly one, I remember that. I know I've seen it, but I couldn't tell you what happened.

Molly Hartney or something. Yeah, whatever that one. Josh Hartnett's sister I don't know All right Let's move on to Our brand new one Exorcist Believer

I'm The body in the blood The body in the blood The body in the blood The body in the blood I'm curious When two girls disappear Into the woods

It returned three days later With no memory of what happened to them. The father of one girl seeks out Chris McNeil, who's been forever altered by what happened to her daughter 50 years ago. 50 years, 1970s, 50 years ago. Jesus fucking Christ. Director David Gordon Green, also known for Your Highness, the sitter, and crazy enough to work with Elizabeth Banks. Oh, and the TV show The Sex Lives of College Girl.

and the Halloween movies The last three Riders are Gets mention Halloween, man Oh yeah, Halloween Halloween. Halloween kills That was the one? That's the best one That those three. Oh, no, no, okay.

What was the one that he did? He did all three. He did all three. Oh, he did all three. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't mention that. That was weak. Pineapple Express. I love that movie.

The cross joint. I did like that. Day Woo Lano's motherfucker Writer. Writers are Peter Sattler Scott teams. I had a buddy that used to drive a Dao Lu Lano, so it was funny.

I used to have one. Somebody owed me some money paid in a Daew. So people, I used to say that when we pulled up. I was like, what the fuck kind of car is this? Daewu. on William Freakins passing

writer and film critic Ed Whitfield posted this on Twitter X, whatever, and Facebook. William Friedkin once said to me, Ed, the guy who made those new Halloween sequels is about to make one of my movie, make one to my movie The Exorcist. That's right, my signature film is about to be extended

by the man who made Pineapple Express. I don't want to be around when that happens, but if there's a spirit world, I can come back. I plan to possess David Gordon Green and make his life a living hell. Okay, I have a problem. You said that before he died? I love that. Is that true? I have hilarious.

Then own your shit, man. Don't fucking cry because you still got a paid for it. I know you did. No doubt. Yeah. cry, yeah. The John Carpenter syndrome, still getting paid. It's funny

as hell that he said that, oh, oh, never mind. That was Ed Whitfield. I thought it was actually William Freakin. It was hearsay, so we can't really say for sure that he said that. But it's funny as hell that he said that before he died. If that's what it is. He was like,

No, man, it's my time. It was the cause of his death. Oh, Lord. Wow. You put that on the universe. You go down that rabbit hole? I'm a starving. All right. Ed Whitfield, we know you're out there.

Let me Google him. Y'all go ahead. The Exorcist Believer. Nez, what do you think, man? I want to hear what Lance has to say first. All right. No, wait. Let's save Lance for last.

I'll go back. I'll go back. All right, all right. Do I think this is as bad as the reviews and everything that's coming out. No, I don't think it's bad, but man, is it a fucking boring paint-by-numbers exorcism movie?

Of which we have dozens, right? Yeah, there is nothing memorable about the movie. I will say, okay, let me get out of the positive. I will say everything with the little girls I did like. I'd like the look of them. I liked everything that was going on

with them when they got possessed. Your kids being lost walking into the woods and then never coming out. That's a fucking fear of every parent. Sure. Yeah, sure. So there was things that worked in this movie. Mm-hmm. But then when we

got to the kids being possessed the payoff, so much. And was it tame and watered down compared to what we got in the original one? Okay. Yeah. If you would have took some of the,

you don't have to have them stabbing the cross talking about lick me, you don't have to do that. They said nothing terrifying to me. Why was this rated R? And the, I don't know, the parents. Was it?

Good question. I hated every character in this movie as far as the adults. Oh, thank God, Brian. Yeah. Thank God you said that. I don't blame you. Even end down, man.

A great actress. But do I think it's the worst movie ever made? No, it's just. just, they took the movie The Exorcist said we're going to make a reboot slash sequel. You did nothing to carry

on the story. I don't even know what you're going to do for the, it's a trilogy they have planned. They already named the second one. I don't even know where you go from here the way the movie ended. Yeah, no kidding. I think do another family or another group. I mean... Then why make it a trilogy?

Just make it a new franchise. Maybe, maybe the, maybe the, Maybe the thread throughout will be the two characters that showed up at the end and hugged each other. I don't know. I kind of want to hear your review now. I was going to say something. You're being very apologetic for it. Well, no.

I was going to say something. I was like, oh, spoilers, my bad. Yeah. I'm just trying to say, you know, I mean, you never know. I mean. But I can't agree with the worst ever movie ever made, created. it's a complete cash grab there's there's nothing to it

the characters are not likable you're brutal dude I'm sorry I was given this movie a chance I didn't I didn't go into it thinking this better be as good as the first exorcist because that's not going to happen that was a one one time once in a lifetime type of movie

they had two tries in a TV series and it wasn't better than the movie sure so I was gonna go into it I'm not a hater of David Gordon Green Halloween is was not great but I don't hold that's what I was looking for I don't hold people to one movie saying your your career is a complete trash and you're just gonna make trash movies but I had to ask you guys a question is it David Gordon Green because what I just found out recently is Danny McBride was also a writer this movie again oh really yeah

I know it's on the credits is it his writing Danny big bride I don't know man I wouldn't think he helped write the Halloween movies yeah but they were mostly pretty good they were good up until the third film I don't know what

they were saying I didn't love the second one dude I didn't love the best one I didn't love the second one either the first second one was really good because it was in the title Halloween kids That was awesome. Third one was hot garbage.

They should have made, I'm going to say this again. They should have made the second one Halloween kills. They should have made that the last movie. Yeah. Called that Halloween Ends. Then killed him. Spoiler of love. But the exorcists, there's nothing memorable about the movie.

Like I said, I did like the little girls. I thought they did a great job. Possessed. The look of them was terrifying. It's just, nothing happened. They didn't do anything. okay and then there was some imagery i was like that happened near the end i was like that's kind of cool let's uh why are where we not getting more of that right and we didn't we got a few images i'll get

to it in spot see you're trying to think of what i'm talking about yeah uh when when we got that i'm just like why why didn't we get visions of that before because they they kind of referenced where they might have been oh oh okay i think i think i i think i I think I know what you're saying. Yeah, that actually would have been really cool. That would have been a complete different aspect that we haven't got before. And I'm just kind of watching the movie thinking about why are they not doing this? And then I'm like, why am I not writing a movie? That's, maybe you'll see that. Maybe you'll see that a night swim, Brian, when she swims through the to the other side of the swimming pool.

When we get to, when we get to spoilers, there was a trailer for a documentary coming out before this movie started. I don't know if you guys got this. I can't remember what it was called. I got night swim. It was a documentary for some, well, when we get to spoilers, I'll go into it. Okay. To me, I think that trailer that I saw before watching this kind of helped me with some of what was going on in this. All right.

Well, I'm passing to you, Niz. I liked the two little girls. I thought they were really good. Little girl had a forehead on her. her. Yeah, they added extra to their cheeks and they had foreheads. I thought both of them did, they did their job. They painted

them up, did all they made them here. These your lines spit them out. They didn't say anything to graphic. There was some blood in it, a little gore, but nothing overboard. That's what I was wondering. The best lines they said were in the trailer. Exactly. True.

Yeah. I was wondering why this movie was rated R. Because it didn't you can clearly see why the original one was rated R but it wasn't the the gore that they that was in this wasn't that bad that could have been a p.m. maybe they're waiting for a director's cut or something to throw it this is not Batman be Superman don't don't yeah but i'm afraid they are going to do that man like that director's that's that's what i'm saying i like it too nez but right the main the main candidate of the

those movies is the ultimate director's cut doesn't count. So what we like doesn't count. I just don't want to... I don't like it. They're going to put out a director's cut of this on Blu-ray. And we see a bunch of awesome shit in it, but they're like,

but it doesn't count. Brian, Brian, I guarantee you, they're going to do a director's cut of this and they're going to say, but you can only see it if you subscribe to Peacock or whatever streaming service. This is going to be on watch. It's going to be on... going to be on peacock this okay

picoke owns the universal but I mean I liked everything in it the score they shoehorned the exorcist theme in there you a little bit yeah yeah they didn't shove it down

on a throw they throw it in a little not in the best way um I didn't really care for the grownups the grownups I didn't they all kind of got on my nerves I but I went to see this for the two little young women that that did the the

possess stuff and what they did. I mean, they did their job. I felt for them. There was times where the hairs stood up all over, all over me watching it, dealing with them when they were going through all the possession stuff. I thought that was really cool. But did this need to be a part of the Exorcist franchise? No. This could have been just something, something else. Like a possession movie. Yeah, it could have just been another exorcism movie that we've seen.

name on it. Yeah, they didn't need to put in the exorcist. They didn't need, they didn't even need to bring in, um, the mom. They don't need to bring her in. I can't wait to get the spoilers to talk about that dumb shit. In the trailer, that's what that, that kind of, the first time I saw it, that kind of made me go, ooh, she's coming back. All right, cool. Like she, she's gone through it so she can be able to help them. She, she did. But I was like, she was kind of pointless in the, film. I mean, she, she was there and gave her her two cents. That's the cash grant part. Yeah. I mean, good for her. I thought she was getting more like a Zelda Rubinstein and, uh, uh, poltergeist. You know what I mean? Like she brought the knowledge. Yeah.

I mean, she, had she got paid in the movie, it wouldn't have made a whole lot of difference. Yeah. I mean, I was just, I mean, they didn't, my big thing, even my wife said, I said, this didn't need to be an exorcist movie. It could have just been whatever possession of two little girls or I don't know, something like that. It could have been something. I still would have watched it, but would it have made it to the theaters?

Would it have been on the big screen for us? Or would it just went straight to peacock or shudder or wherever? Right. So, I mean, sorry, not to interrupt you, just having Ellen Bernstein, not without not spoiling it, Like, if they would have just told me what she's been doing all this time, and that's how she contributed to the movie, I would have been fine with that.

Where she ended up going in the movie, I thought was complete fucking the dumbest shit I ever seen. Yeah, I don't want to get to spoilers. But, I mean, but overall, I enjoyed the movie. Will I watch it again? I won't go to the theater and see it again. I'll watch it again when it hits Peacock. mainly for the two little girls

because I thought they did an awesome performance in what they were doing I mean they did their job they made you they made you creep out of them they made you feel for the two younger girls and yeah as far as parents when these two little girls are on the trailer when the two little girls disappear

I mean you felt like that I mean I know none of us want to ever feel that way but I just I don't know that was that was the main thing the whole time watching this why is this a part of the exorcist franchise? I was just like,

okay, but overall, as just a movie, if you took Exorcists off the title, I did enjoy the film. I will agree with you. I think that makes a ton of sense. Like, I thought I was going to be totally done

with that whole body in the blood scene because of the fucking trailer. And it's like, all right, I'm done with you saying that. Just shut up. but even when it came up in the movie it's done a little bit different way and I like it even the even the line God played a trick on you yeah when that time came for that to happen in the movie I knew it was going to happen but if I would have just got that not in the

trailer but in the movie okay I think it would have been more impactful more impactful yeah I don't know it was still kind of pretty easy to figure out Brian No, I'm saying if we never heard it in the trailer. Right, right. Yeah. If we never heard of it in the trailer, it would be a pretty, it would be, it would be a pretty staple point of the movie. Yeah. Still be super predictable.

She, I'm trying not spoil it, but if we never heard that in the trailer and then she brings up that decision he had to made. Right. And then she drops that line. That would have hit more harder than like, like, oh, here's where she says the line because I've heard. it a million times in the trailer. Hmm. And so, yeah, I, probably a combination of now the trailer that I'm thinking about it. And, uh, um, the exorcist name may be, uh, probably have my expectations a little higher

than they probably should have been for this movie. But I did actually, I did actually enjoy it. It wasn't, I, there's no reason that it needs to be rated R. There was nothing that was super grotesque and nothing that made me go, oh my God, you know, I mean, like, there was no. pearl clutching moments in this movie. Right. You're talking about Ness says it was rated R.

Well, I was it R? Wasn't it? I think it was R. You know, let me get IMDB out here. I don't remember a whole lot of R-rated stuff that happened in this one. Being sarcastic.

Oh, okay. It's it. Yeah, it is R-rated. It is R-rated. And yeah, man, that's, there was no like, pearl clutching moments and and nothing nothing along those lines it was a pretty good exorcism movie and yeah had it not had the name exorcist on it um we this would be probably one of my cool

the weeks you know but uh it's okay who was the believer the the dad i think that's where it was that's that's where it was it was leaning to on whether he was a Believe her or not, but I guess we'll have to get into spoilers to really talk about that. I was like, all right. That just came to me. But then it gets so, like, it gets so chaotic and weird at the end that it's like, all right. What are we doing? Who's this guy?

You know? Like, people just fucking show up. Because I understand why. I understand why. I understand why those people showed up Because of other people's refusal Okay, I mean, I guess It just seems silly

There's like 10 people in a room doing this exorcism Yeah, and We are really spoiling the fuck out of this No, we're not All right, there's nothing to spoil, really I mean, you know how these movies go Obviously there's going to be an exorcism Yeah, it seems to be a whole lot more people

than necessary to make this happen. It's a pay by numbers film. Any of these, any movie with exorcism in the title, that's what you want to see so you know it's coming. You just want to see how they're going to do it. I mean, that's how I went into this. I want to see, all right, is it going to be something different than what we've seen in the previous exorcist films?

What was there? Four before this one? yeah yeah no five five before this yeah yeah it was five of them i mean but you just want to see i did i just wanted to see how they were going to do it yeah so i it was it was it was it definitely wasn't terrible but it it you know yeah the way everyone was talking about it's not going to live on as an as an as an awesome exorcist movie when i was reading reviews and and and seeing the rotten Tomatoes score and I was like is it I was expecting

it to be I try not to I say away from all that man yeah I mean I'll look at it and see because a lot of the movies that I love Rotten Tomatoes and everyone else hates yeah but you kind of got to go with the audience score yeah I believe more of an audience than

whoever these paid critics are but if you guys want to pay us hey send that check I'll give I'll give everything certified for for the right price for the right price you want me to give rotten scores to your competitors

right i'll do it soon as it clears cash preferred zell that could be traced uh-oh lance what do you think man oh man so they did put the exorcist

name on this bottom line, right? So we're going to kind of have to judge it a little, maybe a little more harshly than we would something that doesn't have the Exorcist's name on it. So when this movie started, they had a scene in it. And it really, it, I thought, man, this is pretty cool. It was like a throwback scene. It really kind of felt like something out of the original 1973 movie, because you've got the beginning where, you know, the priest is, is finding the, the items that are in Iraq. They definitely paid some homage. Yeah, big time. I fucking love that. I thought that that scene was really, really well filmed. The way that they went, you know, they went to the islands. So now you've

got voodoo, you know, involved instead of just straight ahead, you know, Christianity or, you know, the Catholic Church or the new Church of England or any of that kind of crap that's all, you know, Christ-based religious teachings or whatever. So, but yeah, once you got out of that, first scene and why and why exactly i mean i guess is this non-spoiler can we say something happened to the hotel no not yet okay but i don't understand exactly why that happened but i'm sure that there's a reason and you guys will explain it to me but what once you start getting into the film first of all it did take a little a little while to get where i wanted it to go i i unlike you guys i wasn't totally in love with these two young actresses i didn't think they were all that super duper

I mean, step above Louis-Lu Wilson. Don't get me wrong, Philip. But I don't know, man. No young Linda Blair, that's for sure. You don't go into a movie like this thinking of her. Well, the problem is, with this movie for me, is once you start getting into the meat and potatoes of it, I think I know what message they were trying to send.

And I thought maybe they were going to pull it off there for a minute because you had, you know, one character who, you know, was going to be a nun, but for whatever reason, you know, ended up not going in that direction. Then he had another character that's in that, like, right, you know, that speaking in tongues and laying of hands on and that kind of old-time religion, like, you know, the people that take it to the super far extreme. And then you had like another Christian character that was almost like a Joel Osteen type super slick, like, give me, give God your money. you know, and it will flow to the heavens, you know, and do as I say, don't do as I do type preacher.

So you had all these perfect examples, and then, of course, you know, you had that neighbor that was of the laying of hands persuasion that said, well, let's see. You were in the islands at one time in Haiti, I think it was, and I happen to know, you know, someone who practices that particular type of religion, so maybe that person can help you. So I'm like, okay, I kind of see what that's good point. they're trying to give you the message of it. It doesn't really matter what your religious background is, as long as you believe. It's kind of all the same thing. Okay, so where was the...

I said that in the trailer. Okay, so I'm not spoiling anything. So where was the rabbi? Where was the Muslim? Where was the Native American? I mean, if you're really going to be, we are the world here, let's fucking do it. Let's not all just do all shoots of fucking Christianity here.

I think it was a time dining room in the dining room for everybody. I guess that's a good point man, but I don't know I think they were on a time crunch so they couldn't. Okay. Well, so you got, and then, yeah,

all these parents, you're right, all the adult characters are so fucking cookie cutter. And then you got the lady that's the lead singer from Sugar Land and she's like, oh, Jay's ass Jay's, says my, save ya, I'm there to go. Is that really who that?

it is? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize. You know, her husband, who's like the fucking hothead. I thought she looked familiar. You know, then you got the dad that, you know, lost his, had to make the decision that we, well, we'll talk about all that later, but pretty bad cast of characters, pretty poorly filmed. Terrible idea. They didn't, they did not do what, he, David Gordon Green or whoever the fuck wrote this, fucking, thought they were giving us a message that I think they were completely off the mark. Because if you're really going to make a movie like that, and, you know, like you said,

Nez, oh, that would fill the whole room or whatever. But for fuck's sake, get a little bit more diversity in there, you know? I mean, they're just basically saying any offshoot Christianity is the right way to go. And Christianity has only been around for, what, 2,000 years? Go ahead, Brian. I think you're digging. That's about right? Way too deep.

Okay. You're comparing it to this. the original. That's all I'm hearing. I guess. You can't go in there. You can try to compare it. Well, then take the Exorcist out of the title, and then I'll go compare it to just call it the believer. I didn't compare it. There you go. I didn't compare any of the Exorcist movies to the original. Because if you're going to have an Exorcist movie that's about the Exorcist,

I would think that you probably are not going to focus on a religion that's not Christian-based. Okay. Because that's sort of what the point is. To be fair, to be fair, I just consider this like a sequel. At least they didn't try to reboot the movie, but I don't know, man. I, if this one was as bad as it was, and I thought the first of the Halloween movies was okay, Ness, I thought Halloween kills was kind of a step down because it got silly. with a storytelling and crap like that and the open mic night bullshit and all that and i thought

it's a slasher movie what do you want it's happening but i think we all agree the third one was was an abortion you want gone you want gone with the wind that's a good movie but i mean you stop going in there with this idea of comparing it to something that's not going to be it's it It'll never be the exorcism. But that's what we do at the horror returns. You're going to love... You're going to love the Friday the 13th series that's come to Peacock because it's also produced by A24.

That's what you want to hear. I don't ride A24's nuts like everybody does. If every single movie they put out was awesome, I'd be slurping it up. Well, not every movie they've done as good. Same thing with Bloomhouse. They don't have a ton of shenny ones, though. They were all over their nuts, too, and they put out a lot of crap.

I was, as a matter of fact, with this movie, as soon as it rolled up and said Blumhouse, I was a little bit concerned. I was like, oh, no. I was. I didn't even know David Gordon Green and Danny McBride had anything to do with this. I didn't know Danny McBride until, like, the day before I watched the movie. I didn't know that until the credits were rolling. I still did not until you said it to.

day Brian I didn't see his name anywhere in the in the in the credits that's what I'm just the why I brought that question up is because he's a writing partner of David Gordon Green hmm well maybe they were smoking some pineapple because what I'm what I'm seeing here is screenplay by Peter Sadler and David Gordon Green but story by other people including Danny McBride fair enough I don't know man okay Yeah, it's just not a very clean movie for me. It was just kind of silly. It was all over the place.

The characters were horrible. Very run, fun dimensional. And yes, you're right. Why was this an R-rated movie? There was no, unless they're going to try to grab more cash, like I said, by putting it on Peacock and say, hey, special this month only. Subscribe to Peacock and you get to see all the scenes you didn't see in the theater. That's all I can think of.

I don't know. I already have it, so whatever they can. Whatever. Whatever. Anyway, so there we go. Scores. Brian. Oh, this was a very, very bland.

Like Nez said, paint by numbers. What you know is in an exorcist movie is what you get in this exorcism movie. But I do, despite what Lance said, I do enjoy the two girls that played the two little possessed girls in this movie. So it kind of bumps it up. from a little bit, because I was out of five, but I'm going to give it a six. Wow. They bump it up a little bit.

This is the next citizen Jane for you, ma'am. Geez. If you say so. Ness, what do you think? If I go up a little more, I give it a seven. I wasn't, I wasn't expecting much. I wasn't expecting the exorcist. I just want to, I just want to enjoy this film.

I wish I'd gone in it like that, man. Can you win in wanting the exorcist? I mean, I went into Force Awakens. Well, but I also wanted... I didn't want the original Star Wars, but that's what we got.

Like you mentioned, you guys mentioned, I wanted to see a particular character actually have a fucking impact of the story. They should... It would have earned... It would have earned Exorcist, man. They should have just left her out.

If she would have had something more to contribute to the movie, this would have been Exorcist to you. Absolutely. If she had come to knowledge and actually helped walk them through the exorcism. She's the only one over there that had any sort of backstory at all. So I can sort of

see where he's going to what she was supposed to do. All right. It's fair enough. Yeah, it's seven. I'm going to go I think six and a half. I'll hit right in between those.

I think it was it was good. Not great. I'm going to forget that I saw this movie by the end of the year. Oh, I'm getting it a six and a half? That's a high score for something you're going to forget. That's a high score for you. Yeah, no, six and a half is, is, is, is, is, uh, it's not bad for me.

That's, that's my official review. Lance, what do you think? Like I said, I'm going to give it credit for that opening scene. I thought that was well done. It actually kind of looked like you were. Okay, so I could have pictured when you saw that opening scene and he was taking the pictures. And she was, she went and got blessed. I think that was so cool, the way she got blessed by the ladies and they blew the smoke.

And it's like, cool. We're getting out of just the regular, you know, straightforward Catholic, you know, religious talk here. and this is going to be something totally different and new. There's going to be a lot to this movie. This is great. It looks like a complete Exorcist sequel, the way that it's filmed. That opening scene was great. Something happened that I thought,

there's kind of losing me because I'm not exactly sure why this is happening, but it's kind of neat, I guess, and now we've got this, and then all of a sudden they flash forward to modern times, and, you know, you get the single dad trying to take care of his dog, and you know I think he's a boxer too isn't he or does it's it's a boxing in one scene to give a kiss to the original but yeah I mean if you're gonna use the name if you're gonna have the balls to use the name you're gonna throw that many kisses like you guys said they worked in a little bit of the original tubular bell score right in certain scenes and the

dogs fighting and all that stuff yeah so you're gonna take all that so you wanted more fan service what I'm saying is if you're going to give me that much fan service. You better give me a good fucking movie and not a two on 10. So you want to re-out. Ouch. Ouch. No, I want a good movie. Let's see what they do in the next one. This one's

a two on 10. So I'm hopeful that we can go the opposite of Halloween. Let's start at the two on 10. The next one could be in the middle and then let's make that let's make part three a masterpiece. I guarantee you right now. You're not going to like the next two either.

I am. I didn't even like I do know. You're not going to like though. I am concerned about where they're going to go from here. They definitely didn't set it up for anything. I love Pet Cemetery Remain. Trash. We'll talk about bloodlines next week.

I didn't see it yet. I guess I need to pick up a different movie for our 31 days because I forgot that was already on our schedule. All right. Spoiler talk. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. Let me get into it. Let me jump right in. What I was talking about earlier was when the girl,

one of the girls finally got fully possessed and died, she went to hell. We saw images of her being drugged to hell. Why couldn't we get more of that aspect? because when they were found, they had burns on their feet, and the one girl's mother was like they went to hell and back. Okay, okay, really quick. That's a scene I was thinking of.

Before this movie started, they showed a trailer for some kind of documentary on people believing in heaven and hell. They said, because there was people talking about, oh, when whatever, they got into an accident, and they saw themselves, like, an outer outer body experience. Oh, I saw my, my grandparents that passed away years ago. Oh, I saw this.

And I saw the bright lights. And then they said, but or there was some other people that said, she goes, I didn't see that. I saw something dark and I saw demons and this and that. That's creepy. So when I was watching this film and when it got to that scene when that girl died, the white girl, when she died and she did they both go to hell? I don't know because they were in between.

And that whole thing, if they were gone for three days, and someone brought up that Jesus, when he died, he was gone three days before he came back. So I wanted to know, did they die and then come back three days later? Or were they just in a blackout for three days? Well, I know when that girl took her, they went to that little area in the woods, they were trying to

the one girl was trying to have the other girl speak to her mother by doing some kind of ritual or something. Okay. So I think they were basically doing what Reagan did with the with the Ouija board. Yeah. Okay.

I told my wife we're going to get a Ouija board and she like about punched me in the face. Yeah. Talk to me hand. And I think it was more easy. They were more easy to be possessed because the one girl mentioned that her daughter was, what, a weak way or from getting baptized?

Yeah, she's still. And then the other, then the other guy, their family was never religious, so she was never baptized. Kind of like, Brian, so kind of like the cop that was like, this case comes up and I was going to retire next week. That old, that old motif? I'm too old for this shit. And the other thing I wanted to bring up, I don't. Like the performance of the... I like him as an actor.

Let me pull up his name. Leslie Odom Jr. The main dad. I like him as an actor. I didn't hate him in this movie. I didn't hate his acting. I hated his character. Yeah.

At no time during the movie, or through the movie, I'm just like, what more needs to happen for you to believe? Yeah, that's true. And I, at the end, I don't even... I don't necessarily felt like he ever believed. He just wanted his daughter back.

Yeah. It was kind of like in the original when the bed is jumping up and down. And then like the psychiatrist is telling the mom that, well, it's just a brain thing. And she's like, I was on the bed and it was going up and down. And they still were trying to convince her that it was just this mental disorder or something, even though she knew better. and she even started slipping into that. You can convince people of a lot of things.

Because that's what they tried to do in this one. But they cut that off quick. They go, well, maybe, because when that priest showed up at the end, and he was like, well, maybe it's a brain disorder or some kind of mental issue. There's, you should go see psychiatrists. And they were like, fuck that. No, this ain't, this ain't that. Yeah.

The one that they tried to get him to perform the exorcism, but the church wouldn't allow him to. He's, oh, my gosh. don't get me started when he came back to help out right and he touched the two little girl's heads after he told everybody don't touch them yeah yeah that's good point and then he dies

but he's a priest he's ordained Brian he has the authority they don't he didn't have the authority you had to go through the Vatican oh the Vatican turned down they told them no so I mean I'm surprised when Philip said there's more exorcisms now than ever

there's a lot of telling him get a brain scan or something there was a lot of stupid choices uh chris mcneal okay yeah i'm sorry but you get the fuck you get that's what you get because nobody told you you had the power and the authority to perform an exorcism right there i get it that you studied every religion and see that's what i liked if they would have just went to her and then she was like i've studied all religions every religion has a form of exorcism yeah and then she said they were going to You need to gather as many different religious figures as you can. I would have been cool with that.

But for her to get involved, what is she like 90? And she's trying to do an exorcism? I mean, because that's what some people were saying in reviews. Or like, why didn't she go, she's lived through this? She knows what to do. She said it in the movie. She wasn't in there. That's what I heard her say that.

But I thought that earlier too. And then I heard it. She wasn't in the room. They told her you need to get out. Then she knew the demon was up there and went up there by herself anyway. That was her own fault. Yeah, because she knew, because I did like that scene when she was like, you know who I am. And then the demon was like, mother.

Yeah. I did like that scene. But again, that's another scene we got in the trailer. Yes, we did. And then I heard reviews saying, oh, we needed Linda Blair's character back. How? She didn't remember the thing happening. Well, she didn't, she doesn't

Just yeah, she doesn't remember what happened That's why the her heretic When they were trying to go deeper Into her brain Is that where she showed her titties? I don't remember But they were going deeper in her brain So she can remember it

And I was just like, this is this is lame So I mean, I did like that She came back and Her mom came back and did it But there was really no need for her No, there wasn't. To talk about land service? Yeah.

I thought it was cool. Because when we saw her, when we saw her in the trailer, I was like, oh, okay, cool. But when she's going to have a part. When we see her in the film and she says, well, I wasn't in there. I just know what I saw. So I was like, all right, cool. Yeah, she did research and she did write a book on her experience on what happened. But yeah, she wouldn't know what to do.

I think she just went into, she needed to see for herself to basically tell them, yeah, this is, this is a possession. This is what's going on. So, Matt, hey, there is one good thing I read in the trivia, Brian. She did say that, like, she had her price, right? She kept setting her price higher to show up in the movie. And then when they paid her, if this is true, you know, but I guess we'll find out if it's really true or not. She said everything she made in her part in this film, she donated to chair. So if that's true,

that's, yeah, that's good, man. So sticking it to the man to redistribute, right? No, I think her character in the movie was sticking it to the man. I just still think if they would have just went to her and then she gave them the information.

She was like, this is what I know. I can't help you any further because I don't have actual firsthand experience dealing with it, but I know who can help you. Yeah. Yes, okay. Because it seemed like in the trailer they're bringing her in to help.

I thought she was going to don the little priest thing and pull out the cross like she's ordained. They made it seen. Is she in the movie more than two minutes? I wouldn't have bought that at all if that happens. That's the problem. But it's also the only place I can see them going with a sequel to this is maybe have Reagan take charge. Well, I don't think the one girl. I don't think she's done.

The one the girl that survived. You don't? Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't think, like I said, I don't think he truly believed. I think he just wanted his daughter back. Ah, so she's still got a little bit of devil in her, huh? And that was the scene I was talking about.

That would have been more impactful if it wasn't in the trailer when she was like, you had to choose between me and your mother and you chose mother. Sure. And then she leans in and does that God play a trick on you. That would have been parking. impactful if I didn't know it was going to happen. That's similar to the priest where the, you know, the demon told him,

you know, made him feel guilty about not being there at his mother's side when she died, right? Yeah. Give me. Why you do they do me? What religion was the the girl, the white girl and her parents? What were they? They weren't, I don't think they were Catholic.

No, that was just like a megachurch. Like Joe Lelosteen. Bullshit. Slick back hair. That's what I figured. I thought they were Baptist because they didn't have the giant Catholic church in it. Except for those priests, they might, I assume they were. Because then they, when they had that meeting, when that guy, that younger priest was saying,

all of us need to go in there and deal with this. And you can see that they were scared. Like, I don't know. But you still have to get the, this. my knowledge is from movies everyone you got to get the okay from the Vatican yeah yeah because even in the original one

they weren't going to let them do it they had to go they brought in the Vatican and all them and then they finally all right go for it but yeah that's that's the authority right yeah I mean did they have the say so why I have no idea and I thought the

what was her the root the root work healer the one that was dealing with stuff from the earth I thought she was going to have more of a connection with... What happened in Haiti? Yeah. Yeah, I did too. Because I thought it was when she got introduced, I'm like, okay, this was all connected and meeting to happen or something.

The whole thing was disjoined it. No, Brian, why did the fucking hotel collapse? Was it just a regular earthquake or did the devil do it? I just took it as earthquakes happened in Haiti. yeah I didn't think it was anything hurricanes do but okay I don't think it was anything that had to do with the spiritual

well that's even worse I might lower my score now it was just an earthquake that happened and it was it helped move the story along to put his wife in that position yeah it gave us it told us why he because apparently that's when he lost his faith in God yeah because he said it

he's like much better job of tying all that together. They did. I mean, he flat out said it. He goes, what happened to my, what happened to my wife? He was like, that's why I don't believe in it. And I could see that. I know that.

That's why. They shouldn't. If you have faith and you're being told you can only save one, you might question on why God did this to you. But puts you in that position. Well, and that takes you back to the God played a trick on your thing, huh? I mean, there's plenty of movies. I mean, I was even at one point.

I mean, like, why do bad people go on and good people die? Sure. Why do babies die? Why do these guys that are, that are just. Maybe they got it better than we do. Maybe they just something better. They go on. It was just, it was a lot of that.

I felt how he felt. Like, I didn't, I didn't want to, she goes, why do I need to believe in this? Why would God do this to me personally? Sure. So, I mean, I felt his pain right there. And it was good. The good thing that I liked about it was when they were talking to that healer lady when she was saying, she was like, well, I tried to use her teachings or whatever country she came from. She goes, I try to use that, but I have to use it with this lands medicine or supplies. She can't, she doesn't have, she probably had a little bit that she had from whatever country she was from. She goes, but I got to adapt to this. And he goes, that's why we're using this and we're using that. And they basically she kind of basically said that they had learned from the natives, which I thought was cool. She goes, I learned from them that we need to use, still practice our faith and everything and our natural medicines.

We need to adapt to that. Then she kind of like went off to like, I don't, not like them to where this is how you have to believe. And this is the only way to believe. Yeah. So I like that part. I mean, because for me, I'm spirit. I mean, if you go to church and whatever denomination you believe in, cool, more power to you. I don't follow any of that.

But I believe in what I was raised as an indigenous person to this land to my tribe on how I was raised spiritually. There's, of course, there's a lot of natives that go to church. Be Mormons, Baptists, Catholics, anything. Mike, he's a Catholic. My uncle, rest in peace, he was a Baptist. I got some cousins that are that are Mormons. Do they all agree with their same? To me, it's all heaven and hell, God and Jesus.

But to them, it's totally different. You got any family that's in Scientology? Who knows, probably. But I mean, I liked how they did that. Watch that one be the right one. Yeah. We were wrong. I don't know anything about it.

But I mean, but I like to. what they did in this how Cruz is going to be up here floating in heaven and we're down here oh fuck. They tried to bring in the Catholic part with it and then end up killing him off. I know man. I was just like in

the original maybe another throwback where his head turned around. Yeah it was kind to me I took it as just a slap in the face to them. I don't know. I could be wrong. That's just how I took it. But I mean I like to speak as a major slap in the face in many ways. I took them. I took them

move I took what they were saying a little bit more to than just like the original one. It was just heaven and hell. That was it. And we need to get this demon, devil, whoever it is, out of this little girl. This one,

that's what they were doing in this, but they went it at a different, different ways, not to just be Catholic or whatever that faith is. They, they... That protocol. Yeah, they, that's why they kind of had to

change it up to be i want to say it goes far as to say woke but they had to uh bring in other people's faith into it yeah i i wanted to see a room i took that whole situation with the gathering of it was two girls possessed so we couldn't just go in there which is we needed whoever we can find in the situation i thought about that for a minute too while i was watching it but then i started thinking this is weak this is not a good What about my neighbor? He's pretty religious. You know, we're bringing him in?

Sure. I didn't understand that. They just brought that guy in. He's just hung out. I understood why they brought Well, no, they were all ordained in their religions. Yeah, but they were all He was ordained.

I know, but he was the only one that like didn't fit what was happening. I mean, the neighbor, she was she was going to be a nun. Not a heads, man. Come on. The black woman, she was whatever her faith is. The priest, of course.

And then the Baptist priest, we brought him in. I loved him in my science project. And the other dude, the little nerdy guy, I'd like that he was really open to everybody's faith and religion. He wasn't like one of those guys, no, you got to believe in this. and this is the only way to believe in. When people say that to me is when I'm like, fuck you. You're pushing me.

I've said this before numerous times. It's not the religion. It's the followers that push me away from it all. Yeah. That's what that's what I'm like, you can have it. Go for it. Don't try to sell it to me because I'm not going to buy it.

All right. We can talk all night. We can talk all night, guys. But you're ready to wrap it up? yeah I don't know there's still much more to unwrap in this

and what was going on with the girls and everything I mean we just tackle it a little bit maybe it'll be in the sequel man maybe is it weird that they just fucking killed

one of them no I said that when we reviewed the trailer I didn't I didn't think I didn't I thought one girl was dying I honestly thought

I actually thought that was a good it surprised me I thought it was It was a good scene where they basically tricked them. The one that was chosen was the one that was really going to die. Because they didn't actually come out and say it. They just said, you have to make that choice.

You got to choose one of them. They said one of them has to die. But they didn't say. That was problematic too, because who makes that choice? They kind of put it on the fathers. The demon. They put it on the two fathers. That's why.

They didn't explain Okay, you need to choose But whoever you choose and we're killing Why is it dumb, Lance? You keep saying stuff's dumb, but you're not really explaining. Dude, it's very simple because if The father of each child is going to want their own child to live, duh. But did you think?

He gets to make that choice. And how come just because the one father said it That made it gospel. But when you heard those demons say that to them, did you think whoever they pick was going to be the one that was going to live? From the very beginning, I thought it was going to be a switch,

a switcher route, because that's what the devil does. So if you don't know what the, if you can't trust the devil, you don't know what choice to make, how are you supposed to make a choice? What you're saying is both fathers should have said, I want,

I want my girl to die. Let the other one live, right? And then they just, they don't choose. They both thought that whoever we pick is going to be the one that's going to live. That's why, because the other dad, he was just wanting

this to end and hurry up because he was losing it. Him and his wife. So were they all supposed to vote as a committee? Everybody who was in the room, like, turn in a black card for this person to live or any yellow card. No, man. Then you're negotiating with terrorists.

There was no time. They had to make that decision. But that guy was so worried and so just pretty much about to lose it all. He just I choose my daughter. And if he said that, that was the word, right, Brian? Yeah, I think it's like Phil said, like, they shouldn't have said nothing.

They should have stayed strong together. Okay. Which is what they were doing until that guy lost it. Yeah, so he was already on the edge. So that was the reason why, I mean, I'm not going to say it was because, well, I guess it was because of him that they killed his daughter. No, no, that's cool that. I guess I'm misinterpreted it then.

I thought that I just was confused with like who gets to make this decision and how come just because he yelled it out all of a sudden that's what makes it the truth. Because it was a decision. Okay. Fair enough. Nobody was speaking anything. So Brian, you're saying whoever broke down first and yelled out. Yeah, that's what happened. It could have been Leslie Odom Jr's character.

He could have been the first one. It could have been the mother. Fair enough. Because it seemed like he, it seemed like he was trying to. to take take it all in because he was the non-believer. I don't know if he believed that by the end of this, but I think he was

since he wasn't since he wasn't as religious as the other father and the other father, whatever, the Baptist, whatever they were taught. Sure. Like you got to do this, you got to do that.

So I think that was and him just being on the edge of getting ready to just blow his brains out because he was going nuts and scared. I think that was why he just blurted it out. I choose whatever her name was. So I was like, okay, I took that. But then he, he should have, they should,

he should have thought about it. They all should have thought about it, but they didn't have time because they didn't know what was going to happen. This was a time bomb ready to blow up. So, but I don't know. We'd be here all night because there's, there's a lot more to this film. I'm glad you,

I'm glad you've talked that through. Now I get it a little bit more. So it's basically whoever blurted, it out first, right? That's kind of how it worked. Yeah, they were thinking they were saying, whoever was the first to say the name of the child was

saving the child, but you were actually condemning the child who was spoken. So it was the ultimate trick. Don't play the game of the enemy. Gotcha. All right. You go, y'all ready to sign out?

Yes, I'll go back to watching the Cowboys get fucking destroyed. It's only 2810. Yeah. They're not looking good. Brian, so you're saying they have a chance. It's only third quarter.

This is a lot. I've seen a lot happen in a quarter and a half. If they suddenly change the way they're playing. They play the way they've been playing. Nope. Net, Ness, how far are you into your 31 nights over on, uh,

East Society and MacNez. We're only eight episodes in. Oh shit. You're way ahead of us. Brian and I were supposed to talk about seven tonight, but I got to go back and pick a different one for six because I was breaking the rules, Brian. I picked one that we're covering next week.

So you free tomorrow, Brian? Yep. All right. I guess other than that, until... What's next week? What's the other week? What's happening? Yeah, what's going on next week?

All right, all right. Next week, we're going to watch the prequel to one of the greatest remakes of the last 10 years. Is it a prequel to that one, or is it a prequel to the original? I've seen it. It's a straight up prequel to the new one.

It's definitely tied to the new one. Is the new one? 100%. Is the remake on camera? It's a cemetery bloodlines. The remake shouldn't be on it. anything. It's there too if you want to

revisit it, Brian. Is it? All right. If I, well, this is going to be tied into that one, I'm going to watch this new one and then watch that other shit one. I've already seen the bloodlines, so. Okay. And Brian, we'll cover it again one day on, is it really that bad? It's bad, I'll tell you right now. I think Bryce should rewatch the remake.

No, I remember it. All right. I remember it being trash. But I will, I will. I will. I watch this new one, then I'll watch that one again and let you guys know what I thought of. Hey, but we're also going to watch Pet Cemetery, too. So isn't that the one with the Corrie's in it or something like that? No. That's an Eddie Furlong.

Yeah, that's another movie better than the Pet Cemetery remake. The great Eddie Furlong and Clancy Brown. Yeah. All right. Viking. Oh, yeah. That can only be one. Yep.

All right, Naz, until the horror returns again. Get ready for the wrestling return. for tackling W.W.E. Fast lane. So that'll be out hopefully before this or after. I don't know. Whatever it is, if you guys listen to that show, thank you and go back and listen to all the other ones if you haven't. So, but yeah, until next week, everyone, be safe out there. And good night.