The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #386: Pet Sematary Two (1992) & Pet Sematary: Bloodlines (2023)

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

This week we are joined by Charles Rosenay, of Salem Paracon, The Paranormal Connecticut Book, and The Book of Top 10 Horror Lists, to talk a little Pet Sematary. Cool of the week includes AHS Delicate, Exorcist 3, Goosebumps, and Office Space. Trailers are There's Something in the Barn and Malibu Horror Story. The podcast spotlight shines on Spooky Chicks and Horror Flicks. And we get feedback from Marcus Wilturner and Matt Wood. Thanks for listening! Salem Paracon: https://salemparacon.org The Book Of Top 10 Horror List: https://bookoftop10horrorlists.com The Paranormal Connecticut Book: https://www.paranormalconnecticut.com/?fbclid=IwAR37sgo-x9xmb6pRTYGBlpNmKCHBNskfr2keaXeJGoaKKYmDeJ0xVCDk0cE_aem_AQhbNQxZ4yeAzJHXsldiirmtt4INfj-A6L5eI5KwWpd4J5_-FRL5HvxE00txTqC-RU8 The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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What better place to have in a paranormal and horror event? That's the perfect place, man. I take it you've been there before, right? You live in that New England area. I'm like two and a half, three hours away. But we did it last for the first time. We had, you know, some okay guests and it really did really well. A lot of people came.

This year we have a horror actress doing her first ever New England appearance. You know, they get a taste of these signings and they love conventions once they do it once. Tara Buckman, she was the mom in Silent Night, Deadly Night. She was in Extra. Yes. Freddy's Nightmares, Buck Rogers. She has a lot of really cool credits. And we met a couple months ago at a convention in Maryland.

And I said, why don't you do more of a genre event? You know, I do the parent. She said yes. That was it. She's coming out. It was quick. We got her. We got the amazing Creskin.

I saw that. How'd you land that one? The original OG mentalist, right? Yes, yes. We've been friends for years. So it's just nice to get him. get him out of his coffin and get him to do a show with us. And he signs books.

He reads people's minds. He's just, I wish he wrote. I wish the book he wrote is how he does it because he still has, can still, you know, walk into a room and tell people their names and where they're from. And it's scary. I've seen some of those guys give interviews before and say how they do it, and I still don't get it. It doesn't make sense.

Kind of like card counting, I guess, huh? Yeah. So the one that's in Salem, I think your tickets are like super cheap, like 20 bucks to get in or something like that? Yeah, yeah, unless you want to do a VIP coming in an hour earlier, then it's like 25, and that gets you first crack at all the vendors and first, you know, signings with all the guests and you get front row seats at all the things. Yeah, it's reasonable. You know, we're having it in a college. It's a university. I do things a lot different than a lot of conventions where guests are in one room and vendors are another room and museum is in this room and a stage.

Everything's in a large, large auditorium. So if you're at, you know, a table and you're checking out the horror merch or your tarot card readings, whatever you're doing in that room, you're not missing the guests who are on stage talking. You're not missing Lance, you know, grabbing a snack to eat. You're not missing anything while things are going on. And, you know, that's how I kind of like to do the shows. And they prove to be really successful because the guests and the vendors and the fans and the attendees. It's more of an intimacy. It's more like, you know, everybody's one.

There's not levels of where you got to be, you know, with VIP rooms and stuff like that. You don't miss anything. We've seen that before. Yeah, right. So what about the book? You got any other list you're working on? So we're going to refresh everyone's memory, and it's the book of top 10 horror lists was the one that came out right after COVID where 100 celebrities gave me their top 10 favorite lists. And I mean, it's still doing real well.

You know, I bring them to convention, sign copies. You can get on Amazon. But the most recent one is true ghost stories of Connecticut, where else, where I'm from. and it's literally the first-hand paranormal accounts of individuals who experience the occurrences. What I did guys here was, you know, there's books for everywhere you are, you know, ghost stories of Louisville,

ghost stories of Honolulu. And what are those? They pretty much tell you just about the haunted places, you know, like the haunted, you know, Brian Stitcher House. They tell you about the place, but they don't tell you what, happened in the place. They might give you the history. They might give you the location. They might say it's haunted because someone die there. In this book, people who visited these

places or had the occurrences in their homes or hospitals or wherever tell you the story that happened. And my criteria was it had to have something new in Connecticut. And it had to be true. I didn't want, you know, an embellishment. I didn't want, oh, this is going to be even scarier. if I write it this way. I wanted them to tell me the true story as it happens and then I'll correct the grammar. I'll throw in a photo if needed

and people just love it. And you don't have to be from Connecticut or associate with Connecticut. You just got to love a great ghost story. You've got to love history and it's really been good. And look who did the, it's backward, look who did the forward, the amazing Crescent. There you go. Nice. You guys are

tight. So yeah, so that it all ties together. Yeah. I predicted that that was going to be a bestseller, so let's put it to the test. It's the best seller among people who love ghost stories in Connecticut. All right.

Well, it sounds like a good deal for ghost stories, because there's a lot of those books that I start reading in it. It's just the history about the house or whatever, and this is haunted because of this or whatever. But yeah, like the actual eyewitness encounters You know, I'm so good to say that because I go to like libraries and I'll do, you know, I'll tell them about myself and then I'll read a few things from the book. And when I pick those, I picked the books, the stories to include in the book that I knew it would have, for lack of better word, a wow factor, you know, where people where they heard the buildup, then what actually happened. They go, whoa. And I see the reaction when I do the readings at the libraries and I see the people react to it.

And, well, I know I got the sale on the spot, but I know that I did it right because the results that you get visually and from the interaction of the people at the libraries or at conventions or at senior centers or at schools or wherever I'm, you know, doing the book program. And that's been a big charge, you know, because there's not a convention during the week. I can't be at, you know, places. But during the week, libraries love to have people, you know, who've written books who are good storytellers. and you know funny and and charismatic like me so having fun with that Kevin I'm putting you to sleep I'm sorry oh no I'm just listening yeah no we got we got Ness here uh Ness this is Crip Master Chucky Hey how you doing my friend how are you know I could be better but I'm here love the maiden shirt bro yep I got to represent for us old schoolers yeah

Tell us about the Transylvania Tour. So this is actually the 25th anniversary, 25 years of bringing people on the Dracula tour to Transylvania. Our vampire vacation goes to Romania for people who may not really know that there is a Transylvania. It's the real deal. What we do is we follow in the footsteps of Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. You know, Jonathan Harker, the way he goes up Borgo Pass. and he goes into the Carpathian Mountains and he visits the cast.

All that we combine the lore, the fantasy, the fiction of Dracula with, watch this, watch this, with the Vlad Tepish, Vlad Impeller truth, the history. And it combines for like the ultimate trip. 25 years strong people are just loving. They go on it and they come back and they say it's the greatest tour they've ever been on.

You know, you can go to a convention, and you can read a book, but to actually go to, you know, Vlad's castle where, you know, all the things, is the ruins now, but going to Brashoff where Vlad put people on stakes and impaled them,

or going to the black church of this place and go into Bram Castle, which is that beautiful, amazing, vampire-esque castle that you see in all the movies. You know, people are kind of living out their, you know, horror and fantasy. This is like the ultimate trip for people who have, you know, wherever I fall to travel and go on a vacation where my tour guide,

I did it for 12 years, but I'm too involved now with Halloween stuff here in the States to be able to go on every trip. But my tour guide who reps me, Radu, is this amazing Romanian historic. Your laugh, it's a real name. It's like, you know, John here is Radu there. He hosts it. He's a professor of history.

So he knows every bit of, you know, Eastern European, you know, civilization. He tells that. He knows everything about Dracula and the whole legend and everything about Vlad. So with him on board, you know, even when I used to do the trip, he was always the one who did the talking. I was the one who would make jokes and, you know, be the social guy to make sure that everyone, you know, when everything was done at midnight, still has a party to go to. But he's the one who makes sure that people have the ultimate vacation.

And it's been successful. People just go year after year and love it. That's awesome. Well, we'll put all the links up in our Facebook group. I think Brian's got a couple other spots. We can put those as well. So we'll get the word out, man. Thanks for joining.

We usually start our show out with a cool of the week. I don't want to put you on the spot. But anything you checked out this week or the last couple of weeks could be a movie, a book, anything, man. What do you want to? What do you want to talk about? Yeah, I can't remember what I did last time. But my uncool of the week, and I don't know you guys, or you're going to do it, I was so disappointed by the second and third acts of the Exorcist movie.

Oh, wow. Yeah, the more I think about that one, the more disappointing it gets. Yes, the more I think about it, the more disappointing it gets. I can't sum it up better. and it started off and I'm thinking, whew, I'm into it. And then why? So that's the uncool.

The cool is that, you know, I've finally gotten into Hulu. So I'm checking back. And I really thought that I had seen every one of the American horror story, you know, all the, all the miniseries. And I realized, whoa, I didn't see the last one called Delicate. And so I'm in the second or third one now.

And I'm loving it already. you know, though every one of them has, even if they're not at their best, they have reasons to watch it and enjoy it. And I'm really into this one. So I'm looking forward to how it unfold and what directions it goes. Yep, that series come up and talks before, hasn't it, Brian? Yeah, I'm enjoying the new season so far what I've seen. I heard all good stuff. What about you, Naz, wrestling?

I haven't watched anything. than my, well, I've been watching a bunch of old movies, but caught a cold somewhere to wrap it all up. I went to a show Saturday night and some fucking asshole slammed into me and fractured my ankle. Oh, no. Oh, wow. Dude, not so cool in the way. You look like an impenetrable force. I don't know how someone could have slammed into you and them not fallen over and got hurt.

I was leaning on. up against a rail and he came like with a low shoulder tackle or something and just boom got me right in my foot and I just kind of I got up and I moved it around really fast and I said it felt all right and then I stepped and I just couldn't put no pressure on it so my son and this other guy that was standing right there helped me out to the front and luckily they had a little EMT section So that guy kind of checked me out and then just wrapped it up and said that's about as much as I can do. So why don't you go to the ER? And I was like, uh, and then I didn't go to the ER until the next morning.

I was tired when I got home. And I slept all right that first night. But then once I got to the hospital, they did the x-rays. Sorry, bro. You got a little fracture down. I'm like, uh, so. Then I had to go see my doctor today. And she's like, all right, well, okay, that's about as much as I can.

do. Now I'm just sending you to some specialists. Of course. Yeah. So now I gotta go see them. Come on. Yeah, I got to go see them now for the final decision. But it still hurts.

Not as much as when it happened. But just Motrin, she said, take that and sit and watch TV. So I've been watching. I'm watching. No, that was just my regular doctor. as well as the ER doctor too. He told me the same thing. He goes, well, I can just tell you that it's fractured.

That's about all I can do. So hopefully I don't have to have surgery or anything, which I don't think so. He said it doesn't look that bad. He goes, it's not like it's like at the very bottom. I don't think it's like the inside bone is the one. Somewhere at the bottom, he said. It's like maybe that little, the little. knob part, he said, looks like it cracked. Because he didn't show me the

x-ray. He was like, he goes, believe me, if it was the main, main, big bone part, he said, you'd be in, your leg would have swelled up, you would have been in excruciating pain. So, so thankfully that. And he said, doesn't look like I tore any ligaments or anything or muscles or whatever. So we've got to go get it all, x-rayed again, and see what the specialists say. So now I've got to go that whole route. So as of now, he said you're probably going to be out for maybe like about four weeks.

So I'm like, uh, so. Yeah. And that fix itself. It just is going to stop for a while. My grandson, he's sick. He decided to throw up all night. And so now everybody. So now everybody's sick.

Ness, you look 20 years old. What kind of grandson? I wish, man. Thanks. I'm 52. Yeah, as far as that was my not cool, as far as cool, there was a movie that I watched, I'm halfway through it now. And it's an old one that Brian and I are going to cover on 31 days, so I don't want to dive into it. But as of now, it's starting off pretty good. Hopefully it stays good to the end. It's keeping my attention.

But I would say that, but I don't want to stay. say what it is until we're done. You didn't watch it yet, Brian. You gotta give us something, dude. Come on. It was a movie. It was a movie. It came out. It was a movie came out in 1982. That's about as much as I could tell you. I was making sure you wasn't talking about the other one you wanted me to do.

I don't know how that one kept your attention. Oh, I don't know. No, this is a different one. All right. Ness, you're going to throw us a cool of the week or not, man? That was it. That was it. That was it. What? You're going to cover later.

Yeah, you got to go over to... Mystery title. All right. I'll write it on mystery title. You got to go over to East Society and listen to... Jesus. I thought I do one days of horror. All right.

Save us, Philip. Yeah, I actually got a couple of them that I watched this week because I caught up on some classic horror stuff, man. I watched, since we did The Exorcist last week, or the week, I don't know. I lose track of days whenever the hell it was. I watched The Exorcist 3 Loved it It was great Father Carus making a comeback

It was a fun movie man It was definitely better than the second one And I checked out some more I rewatched Pet Cemetery The remake And the original actually You know what

The remake is not as bad As Maybe we made it out to be. Do you need to go to the emergency room too? Maybe. I was probably very inebriated when I was watching it, but I watched it right after this bloodline one. Yeah, see, okay, that's why, because I watched the bloodline and I was like, who are these people? And so, like, because some of those same people pop up in the original Pet Cemetery. And then, so I was trying to watch the new one to see if they popped up in that one. They kind of don't. They don't really give a whole lot in there. But, uh, but, uh, But yeah, some of those same characters were in the original Pet Cemetery, so that was kind of fun to watch. And my not cool of the week, I can't even remember the name of the damn movie, but it was on Shudder. I think it was called elevator game, maybe. Does that sound familiar to anybody?

Your Atlanta might have some different opinions. I kind of liked it, man. Did you? I hated the idea, but I liked the execution. It was like Disney Channel horror. for me. Towards the end, it got a little bit better

and a little more interesting, but like that first half was a bunch of set up with a bunch of snottenose kids that you don't care about at all. And it took forever to get that point. And I was like, what am I watching?

And I went ahead and stuck it out. And the ending kind of pulled it through a little bit. But, man, it was, okay. It was kind of goofy. We're off to a ripper and start, Charles. See how we do it here?

I love it. Come on, keep going. Brian, what you got? Well, if you've already heard this, then you've already heard me and Lance talk about our 31 days. So I can't talk about any of those. But outside of the 31 days, me and my daughter, my youngest daughter, we checked out the new Goosepump series.

Oh, nice. Goosebump. All right. It's on Disney Plus or Hulu. They're doing the simul streaming service thing. Justin Law is in that, right? Yeah, he's one of the main characters. I know there was a big deal with people.

I'm not, I was never really into the book, so it doesn't matter to me or not. But there was a big issue when it came out that it wasn't going to be an anthology, different story. Every episode was going to be a continuous story. I don't have a problem with it. it they're what i do know of the books they're implementing them as the episode as the story goes along so i thought i thought that was pretty cool some of the characters and the show's not geared towards me it's more gear my my youngest daughter's 13 so it's more her age and a little little bit older but it made it more fun watching it with her that's wild though when did the

goosebumps books come out they were like late 80s right Yeah, late 80s, early 90s. Yeah, I remember reading them in like fifth, sixth grade. Yeah, so. But the, I'm Phyllis, 26. 41, 42, 41. Yeah, I got to think about it. Philly the kid.

But I'm enjoying it so far. I don't know if it's because of watching it with my daughter makes it more enjoyable. But it does it, people that are complaining that it needs to be the, like the original. you know, watch it, try it out. You know, they're doing something different. They're not doing the anthology thing. They're doing their own thing. And it's pretty cool so far.

No slappy? Yeah, Slappy's, he's on the poster. So, I don't know if we have it. He's in there somewhere. Yeah, it came out last Friday, and they, I don't understand they dropped five episodes. I'm like, neither drop one episode or dropped the whole thing. Yeah. Five was kind of weird, but it's supposed to be a 10 episode series, so we'll be keeping up with it.

And I'm re-watching the Chuckie series. She wanted to get into that, too. Oh, we need to see Chuckie versus Slappy. Well, both of them are in my living room right now. They stare at me when I'm watching TV. I'm putting my money on Chuck. My grandson, my oldest grandson, Daniel. he loves Chuckie and Slappy.

So last Christmas, he's suckered me into buying him. I don't know if he's scared of him because it's still in the box. And the box is right into the TV and he's just staring at me. But he's the happy-looking good guy, Chucky. So I'm okay with that. But Slappy, no, I don't like those ventrilocus dummies. My grandma used to have one when I was a kid, man. I used to play with it.

It was fucking crazy looking. It looked like a Slappy doll. Like, no joke. The first great one was the one with Anthony Hopkins, Magic. Magic, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Great movie.

That trailer scared me. The TV spot. All right. I'm going to make it short and sweet. I'm going to do a fill up again and go comedy. Last night, the wife and I checked out office space. And it never loses its appeal. Once again, proving,

1999 was the greatest year in film ever between that and Matrix, Blair Witch Project. I know you guys don't agree, but I thought American Beauty was great. Of course, Kevin Spacey turned out to be the real horror story, but... Yeah. Yeah, fun movie. Colt class. There's that. What's that?

Said charges dropped on him, I think. So there's that. I don't know if that makes it not true or not. You don't know. these days, man. I just picked up the steel book for Blair Witch project and the last one, Blurwich. Yeah, Walmart got me. I walked in there just to look at the movies and I said, damn it, a steel book. I didn't care for Blair Witch, but the Blair Witch project was good. I'm mad that they didn't put all three of them in there, but I don't know. Yeah. They saw you coming.

Is that you done, Lance? Yep. Well, we can segue to news. I was going to ask you, Nez. How do you feel? the Best Buy is no longer going to sell physical media in the stores or online. Oh, so that's it now? Yeah. Starting for early 2024. Well, Walmart, man, like we talked about it before. I don't know what show we did, but, yeah, Walmart's, man, they're stepping the game up and they're coming out with Steelbooks now. So they're going to get me there.

I just want them to come to my Walmart because my Walmart, because my Walmart, It's hit and miss in this small town. But I just ordered prey. They restocked their prey 4K steelbooks, the best fly. So I had to get mine before I couldn't because I'm not spending a hundred and something that those fools wanted on eBay. So I'm glad I didn't. But Charles, before we go further, is that, who's that stand up behind you? You tell me.

Oh, okay. Unless I saw it was the mouth. Yeah. I thought it was. Okay. Quite right. I thought it was Paul from Slipknot. Oh, yeah.

The base player. I thought it was him. I didn't see the top of his head. We'll keep it further so he can get a full view. You mentioned, you guys mentioned Kevin Spacey. We were watching, I was watching my kids, seven. And they recognized, it was like mind-blown. I said, you guys didn't read the credits, no.

They recognized his voice from the phone call before they show that he's the serial killer and I was really blown away. I had to show them something years, years ago, after John Lennon died, there was something called Come Together, a tribute to John Lennon at Radio City Music Hall. And I was a seat filler for that where, you know, when a star got up, I took their place. I went in a tux and all that because it was aired on TV. And he sings John Lennon like Noah. It was like mind blowing. So. No way. Something to make a note of is Google Kevin Spacey singing like mind games or something.

He's amazing. Huh. Would not have expected that. What state are you in? I'm in a state of confusion and Connecticut. Okay. All right. Continuing with the news, the Exorcist movie, Charles, you mentioned it earlier.

Is it not cool of the week? shocking news, David Gordon Green will probably not direct the sequel. He shouldn't direct anything ever. Yeah, he's done. Maybe office space, too. He should not do horror. Which, with the low box office,

I'm still not 100% faithful in the sequel even happening. Yeah. They've already announced it. I guess that doesn't mean anything, huh? No, they don't. have to make it. And I'm pretty sure the people are not going to get upset that they didn't make the sequel.

They announced the whole Universal Monsters universe. Oh, that's right. They killed that after one movie. They even had a photo shoot with all the actors. They were supposed to be all the characters. I liked that movie. I don't care what anyone says. Tom Cruise one? Yeah, I still think what's his name would have been? Fan Helsing was considered the first of them. Not the Tom Cruise one.

Oh, the second, the first one was Van Helsing was supposed to be the start of the, you know, Universal Monsters again. And then, what's his face, did that Wolfman movie. Right. Benicio. Benicio. Yeah. Pretty bad. And then, no, it never fly, never took off.

And then, yeah, Tom Cruise, we put a nail in that old again. The nail in the coffin. Actually, there was one more. It was supposed to be, what's his name, Luke Evans. He did that Dracula movie. That's right. That's right. Right, right, right.

I didn't hate that as much as everybody else did either. I liked all those movies. Van Helsin, that was a fun movie. Ten on ten. It was just a crazy adventure movie. Right. All right. Let's see.

VHS, I think it was over in New York Comic-Con. They already announced the seventh installment. and they're going sci-fi horror this time. Oh. Hmm. Alien stuff, maybe, huh? Didn't there what do you go sci-fi? With that, in the third one, with that portal to another dimension?

Yeah, I guess you'd call that sci-fi, wouldn't you? Yeah, but I think each episode, every episode is going to be sci-fi horror. And wasn't there an alien one with the dog that had the second one? Yeah. The GoPro on them? They made a whole movie out of it. They made a whole whole movie. movie out of that sequence remember

it did yeah came out last year was that yeah it wasn't very good or I would have remembered but it was just that scene but extended like they told the back story Charles can you help me out you remember that one don't heads

I'll think of it I'll post it the Facebook group right okay and as per usual the past few weeks is not enough not a lot of horror news going on. So I'll just finish up with, we talked about the Halloween rights were being shopped around for a movie, new TV deal.

Miramax has secured the television rights. Fucking Miramax. Wow. If it's a good movie, it's a miracle. TV series, Lance. Oh, okay. And from what I understand,

what I understand, they beat out A24. Oh. Money talks. With money, I guess. Which was interesting news because I think it came out that A24 is trying to move into the blockbusters now, the bigger budget of films. I saw something that popped up, some preview that popped up for A24 that was very like comedy. Yeah. Like it did not match their persona at all.

I think I read. I think I read somewhere it's kind of a necessity for their business to grow. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. They're not going to get away from what you've come to know from A24. It's just they're going to get into the more bigger budgeted movies. And they were trying to get the rights to Halloween, which, from what I understand, Miramax, only got the television rights. But a quote from somebody from Miramax said they have a movie television. television series plan outline so i don't know if they're close to getting the movie rights

so i'd like to see an a 24 movie of halloween that'd be cool well we're getting the a 24 tv series of friday to 13th on p-card all right well let's see it should be a trip i can't hear i can't hear mirror max without thinking jane silent bob I don't think they'll show up. You never know. What do you think about all this, Charles? I'm waiting for 824 to put a Pearl on Broadway. That's the next step.

That's right. With me a guy. That's great. Let's see on stage. Everything I read about her, she probably will do that movie or that Broadway play. Sure. As long as she can get dressed. undressed in that.

Yeah. She's the scream queen of all time. When's Maxine coming out? Next year. That's another Pearl X movie? It takes place after X. Okay, cool. In the 80s.

She went on to become a star in the 80s of porn, I'm assuming. Yeah. all right that's the news all right Charles you you're ready to get into the trailer part I'm ready to leave all right

Brian's going to bring us the big the small and sometimes the very very weird what are we talking about tonight Brian? The first one is we got a little teaser trailer for a new Christmas horror fantasy comedy

IMDB's got it listed all these genres There's something in the barn Okay And let me double check Because I think this is the same director That did that one Christmas horror movie Rare Exports Hmm

That makes sense Okay I don't know I saw that one Love that one And it is not I was wrong Because it kind of gave me a rare export feel

Got that rare exports vibe, huh? Yeah. This is directed by Magnus Martine, and don't see anybody of note in the cast, so it looks like a fairly unknown cast. Like a Norwegian movie or something? It's from North Asian movie. It's from North. Charles, what did you think of the teaser? I didn't see the teaser.

I just, I mean, I'm on Google as we're speaking, and I love the images for it. But I didn't see the previous, I didn't see the teasers for it. Yeah, it was an interesting enough looking trailer, I thought. I mean, I, yeah. So is it, is it, is it an elf or what, what's going on? It said it right there in the trailer, didn't it? Did it? Christmas elves or something, yeah.

Barn elf. That's why. Barn elf. That's why I thought this was. kind of like a semi-sequo to rare exports because we got the evil Santa Claus and that's that one and he had his little minions were his elves and that one so I don't I kind of thought that's what I was watching in the teaser I mean it looks interesting at least you're not doing

something that's been done a hundred freaking times before yeah like the exorcist Ness? All right, Lance. Yeah, I just had to watch it. It looks cool. Yeah, it looks fun. It looks fun.

Yeah, I'll watch it. I mean, what else are we going to watch? So, might as well. Christmas horror movies are slim pickings. Something new. All right, just in time for Christmas. This comes out in November on the 10th. I never understood why they do that.

Put that movie away. You got that Christmas classic. It has to be top three worst remakes ever. It's not even a remake. I don't know why they named it that. Like the Exorcist. They didn't even need to name it that. When people do these online petitions,

there should have been one to change the title of that movie. It's not a black Christmas movie. I agree. I agree. They shouldn't be allowed to use that name. There have been two movies that were both good in their own way, and then that piece of crap comes out. Just not right.

It's not right, Niz. I like that. What's the actresses name, Imogen Poots? You're better than that. I know you live in. She is, man. She's kind of awesome, even though she's got hilarious name, and it makes me chuckle every time.

Sure. Yeah. She did some great stuff. The one she did Vyvarium was really good. The one we talked about last one. Yeah, she was great in Green Room. Oh, yeah. Awesome movie.

And it's not a great movie, but she was pretty good. What's the video game racing movie? With the... Steve Racing? No. with Jesse Pinkman in it? Yeah. I have no idea.

Oh, I didn't see that one. Grand Teresa? No, that was the new one. There can't be that many racing movies. Anyway, she was in it. She was not too bad at that one either. Ricky Bobby. Dang, it's going to kill me.

I can't think of the movie. I don't know what to do with the hands. What's his name? Rami Malick was in it, too. go on charles help us out man no i'm not i'm not googling quick enough the the e society guy i mean the f society guy was in naz how'd i mess that up um oh uh need for speed yeah there you go there you go ah that should have been one that i had i love the game

get the guy a cigar i was thinking of that new one that just came out said she was in that i don't remember her The new one has Hopper from Stranget Thing and Legulus. Yeah. All right, moving on to our final trailer. A new found footage horror movie

titled Malibu Horror Story. Is it found footage? Yeah. It looked like a combo of both. Yeah. According to the trailer, it was a found footage movie like we've never seen before.

I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert This is directed by Scott Stone and again another relatively unknown cast I didn't see anything in the trailer

that made me think this was the future of found footage horror movies and kind of look like stuff I've seen before but if it's shot well and it's got good scares in it and of course you give a good reason why they're still filming,

then I'll be on board. Yeah. I love found footage films, but what you just said, if it gives a good reason why the filming continues, there's never that good reason. It's just like, wait a second. Oh,

the camera was dropped. Okay, we'll continue the next half hour of that. Yeah, that's the tough one. Why killings are still being done and the person who's got the camera isn't like running away or doing any of it. Yeah. Or you'll have the scene where they drop the camera and say they got to go back and get it.

Right. And you're like, why? You're not using it for anything. Because we have to keep the story going. That's right. What do you think, Lance? I'm, I've been to watch it. I mean, don't get me wrong.

I just always keep thinking of that old Saturday Night Live sketch, the Californians. You guys ever seen that one? But they all have that bleached blonde hair like Ken, Ken and Barbie. and there I'll just look at the screen they're like what, what? Yeah, man. I don't know.

Malibu horror story. Is that what it's called? Really? Yeah, I've seen it pop up. I think it's doing the festival run. So maybe that's why it's getting word of mouth. It's a hundred

guy's stupid name. 100% on Rotten Tomato? Yeah, one what, one person's seen stuff for a point? the producer who invested in it already is that or his mother right his mom's the greatest movie i've ever seen sometimes that's all you need is just one person and then get the next person to watch it right and so on and so on and so on

what did you think that's uh it looks cool i mean i'll see it i mean i like pretty much every not every found footage movie but i'll give them i'll give him a shot i mean it looked cool just kind of remind me of Blair Witch Project meets the descent, but all right, I'll check it out. Sure. Is there anything in the trailer, is there anything in the trailer that made you think this

was the next level of found footage horror movies? No. Okay. It's just the run of the mill. Same thing we've seen already. It's because they had the Predator Vision. They had that in dissent

as well as, you know, they had the night vision. Yeah, but right. I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, as long as it's scary and they don't overdo it, the thing that bugs me about found footage movie is all the zooming in so close. It doesn't need, your camera doesn't need to be zoomed in that much if you're not trying to look at something far. If you're just turning to look at Phil to see what he's, if he's scared, I mean, it doesn't have to be zoomed in on you.

That's my only issue with them. You mean, you don't have to be up close on his eyebrow? no there's no if the if the camera like in blur which how she did it at the end she had that like right in her face and that was fine but when you're looking around trying that that's what bugs me i mean when there's too much of that but i mean other than that i mean i like what they're doing um could be worse could be a tiny little spotlight like uh what was that one fell the the outwaters oh yeah yeah yeah where you're just looking at a flashlight the whole time Oh, no. I haven't seen that one yet. It's on my list to watch. Should I take it off? No, it's not bad. It's just, it's a, okay. It's like, it's obnoxious to the eyes. It's one of those movies where you, you want to, you want to re-watch it because you think there's something there. Okay, kind of like Skinner, Rink?

Well, I didn't re-watch that movie, but I watched it enough. Okay. All right. I'm a found footage, dude. I'll check this one out. Yeah, especially aliens, right? Yeah, I didn't see. Is it aliens?

It looked almost vampirey to me. I just said that to get you interested, Phil. By the way, Phil, you got to see that Hulu movie. What's it called, Brian? I didn't see it. Yes. Have you seen it yet, Phil? What's it called?

I haven't seen it yet. I will save, no one will save you. Oh, no, I haven't seen it. All right, I'll check it out. right up your alley Ness you should check it out too yeah everyone's telling me to watch it I haven't seen it yet

Charles seen it yet I got plenty of time I want to throw something in the last time I was on I think that a movie that I was that I had a cameo in had just come out Night at the Eagle Inn another one yes

yes sir I remember that so I'm in another one by the same filmmakers the Bloomquist brothers who putting out some really cool stuff independently. And their next film is Founders Day. And I think it's already playing some of the circuit as far as where it shows before it shows in theaters

to get awards and all that. Right. It looks good. And I play, I don't even know what I play. I'm in a mob scene. So hopefully it made the cut. But it looked really, really good. I got a lot of hopes for it.

Founders Day. I think I just posted something on Founders Day. Actually, yeah, it looks like a pretty big release, Charles. I'm looking at the IMDB page right now. Got some pretty big names in it. About what time are you in the Night of the Eagle Inn? Well, if you play the trailer, I'm the first voice you hear. When she walks through the hotel and then

the creepy stuff starts happening in each room. I'm the first one. I'm on the TV screen. I'm the cross-dressing debutante. Guys, typecasting. It actually came out good. There's a lot of things that I've done where, you know, I saw the rushes or I watched it as they filmed it

and I saw the playback, I'm thinking, this is amazing. This is Francis Ford Coppola-level amazing stuff. And then it comes, there was one movie called Pink Eye, and I had such great hopes for it, just seeing the scenes of the day or two that I was there. And then it came out,

what a piece of shit, guys. Pink Eye. Pink Eye, yeah, yeah. I play an asylum a lunatic in an asylum and they said... Yeah, Redfield, right?

Well, they said, do something cool in the background. And so I walked backwards. And they, oh, that was so freaking! And then, of course, they didn't use it. But I'm killed by the hero with a crowbar through my neck. So it coasted the neck and out my head. And the stills of it are amazing.

and in the film it's like he blocks me. You don't even see it. It was so... Oh, no. Yeah, pink eye. I think the cameraman had pink eye. It must. Yeah, Charles, you sound like if Christopher Walken was a regular human being.

It's a sidetrack, I'm just saying. I'll take it. Yeah, all right. All right, a matter of horror story, October 20th. Can't wait. Nicholas Cage, if he was a regular human being.

Wow. All right, let's go to listener feedback. This week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on spooky chicks and horror flicks. Welcome to spooky chicks and horror flicks, the podcast for two horror-loving ladies, dissect, discuss, and devour everything related to the bone-chilling genre. From haunted houses to blood-soaked gore, we leave no creepy stone unturned. Offering hilariously horrifying insights, opinions, and analysis of the scariest films ever made. Expect laughs, jumps, and screams as we share our favorite horror movie moments, terrifying tales,

and spine-tingling recommendations. Grab your popcorn, dim the lights, and prepare for a wickedly wild ride, to the horror cinema. I thought that was the show I was on, guys. Yeah. The spooky chicks and I got the boring dudes. I don't know what happened here. Where'd the ladies go?

We'll do better next time, Charles. They all ran away. And Matt Wood says, suitable flesh will be on Shutter, October 27th. All right. Check it out. 31 days. That was the trailer. view with Heather Graham.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Let's see. Derek Bourgeois says met Joe Lynch at a con in early September. He was the coolest. Hope his new flick is based on my life. We mostly talked about how

shitty Mick Jagger was in Freejack. Jim Kupka on episode two of the new Carpenter series, digging the style and tone. The fact that it's based in reality is a nice touch. Have you seen any of that?

Any of you? I was going to watch it, but Lance kept telling me it's a piece of shit. And he didn't even watch it. I saw the first episode. I know. I'm just messing. The first episode was cool. It was depressing and dealing with drug abuse.

Is it like... No. Is it like, what is this? This is not the one on Peacock, is it? It's the urban or suburban, whatever. So is it like reenactments? No. Well, kind of sort of, but it's people that interviews with people talking about people that are addicted to drugs.

I only watched that first episode and got depressed. What? I'm kidding. What that? That's kind of like fun carpenter stuff. from what I understood he directs the very last episode but he was talking more of

real, real life or which it is I that first one depressed me out and ended up watching Halloween 2 again for the billionth time the OG not that dumbass Rob Zombie one Be on the lookout for a future

31 days episode and Nez had me watch a short film that bummed me out by the end Oh. Yeah. Ah, someone will do that. We're intrigued. Real life horror.

Yeah, it'll be out later after, well, probably before you hear this, but it'll be out. Was it Saylo, the 120 days of Sodom or what? We still have to watch that movie. Have you guys seen it? Unfortunately. We're going to do it for another podcast, but I don't think we have to do it for a while now. I don't think I could sit through that again. That once was enough.

I don't get how they were able to film what they filmed. I know it was a different country in different times. Different country, different time, you know? No, it was bad. Even if you were just an actor to act? No. I can see why they killed the director. But all right.

There's got to be reasons we have laws, right? that's the reason and we have some more 31 days of horror from Marcus Will Turner number seven wounds what is wounds

you guys know I'm the positive one on here and I don't use the word garbage too often but uh oh if it's the movie I'm thinking of the movies trash all right it has a

it has yeah the one guy that uh was not acting no more because they said he wanted to be a cannibal or something army hammer army hammer army hammer

I want to give up acting to become a cannibal I don't think it was his choice to give up acting I don't think it was his choice to give up acting I'm familiar what was he in he was a lone ranger i should tell you all about his acting career that's right he's in something coming up i forgot what

is he he's back in the spotlight he's back did him and hannibal the only thing i really thought he did good on was uh he played the twins in uh the facebook movie oh the zuckabberg baby yeah oh okay okay i don't see the fast

It was all right, but the way people were talking about, like, it was the greatest movie ever made. I'm like, really? David Fincher, David Fincher, right? I don't know. I think it's a David Fincher movie. I don't know. I didn't love it that much either, Nez. It was all right. I wouldn't watch it again. It was, it was no Alien 3, right? No, hell no, Alien 3 is hella good. So here's what Marcus Will Turner has to say. say about wounds. Never snoop on someone else's phone.

You don't know what you might find or unleash. A probing bar owner learns this common lesson the hard way in an odd and grotesque downward spiral into icky insects, text, portals, and what the fuckery on a cellular level. I don't know what that means. This has chills, but very little thrills, which adds to first. their emptiness. Still, you can't deny that disturbing transmuted imagery and the discombobulated execution, good word, of this stroll into mobile madness, just needed a way, just needed way more meat and a legitimate landing, whether into the technological void or not. 5.5 out of 10. That's generous. That's high for. What movie was this?

Boons. Not a great score from Marcus, though. I think it's a Hulu movie. That sounds familiar. And we got number eight, possessor. In case you didn't know, it's a last name that's as iconic as Hitchcock, Ramey, Argentino, Carpenter, Fulchee, or Lovecraft. A name that is not only a staple of the institution of horror, but also one that's unanimous with the deformed and deviant, pervasive, and the phantasmagorical.

Is that even a word? Anything attached to this is not just a mindbender, but a mind fuck as well. And that name is Cronenberg. Though this time around it isn't David, but Brandon, the chip off the old block who's taking center stage once again. And here's another substantial reminder that with this namesake comes a cranial, that puts plenty to shame and a style that puts a cinematic community on notice

9.5 out of 10. I didn't love it. I need to watch it again. I did. I was tired. Yeah. I watched it, but I didn't see the fascination that everybody was

ran and raving about it. I'll watch it again. Maybe my tune will change. I just watched it the one time. Yeah, me too. According to Lance, he's the better Cronenberg. What else has he done the son? He did that and infinity pool.

Oh, Infinity Pool. Yeah. It did something else too, right? He came out earlier this year. Speaking of Mia Goth. I think he's only done two. Oh, okay. Yeah, he did another one with that.

The weird guy that played Banshee in the X-Men movie. The skinny red-haired guy. I can't think of his name right now. Oh, the creepy brother from Get Out. The creepy brother from Get Out, and it was about where people were like purposely ingesting viruses of movie stars that they followed. So they're like cosmopolitan or something? So, no, that was David Bono.

That was the one with Batman in it. Now, that was the one with Batman in it, the new Batman. I'm laughing at straws here. I can't remember the movie, but it was definitely Brandon, not David, that directed it. it was um again it was about people that would that would ingest viruses from their favorite movie stars so they could have the same sicknesses that they had it was it's pretty screwed up movie it's like here's a bag of air from a riana concert exactly selling on you baby who says they hollywood isn't coming up with original concepts yeah yeah no doubt uh and number nine uh

as we mentioned before, Infinity Pool. Psychedelic, pervasive, cerebral, and flowing with atmospheric abnormalities, either physical, metaphorical, or psychological. Kronenberg's new story has a ton going on above and under the surface, whether you want to peer underneath to tantalize a fantasy or not. Nothing like a fun vacation to recharge creative juices, eight out of ten. See, I liked Infinity Pool better. Or to have me a goth release your juices.

Yeah, well, that'll do it too. Antiviral. That's it. Antiviral. That's it, Brian. She creeps me out with the no eyebrows thing, but she's still kind of hot and weird, weird, like, degenerate sort of way. We make the brood, his dad's the brood. We make that one.

Yeah, but make it better? Make it good, you mean? Is that, we did that one last year, didn't we, Brian? Yeah. Yeah. I remember here to talk about it. I don't think I'll watch that again. So, yeah, did Brandon remake it and make it better?

There you go. Would you put me a goth in that one? I don't care. Who's in it? Just make it better. It's been dead. No, she should be that lady at the end. No, I don't want to see that.

And number 10 is Daniel isn't real, the quasi tradition of fight club in the mouth of madness, Donnie Darko, and even drop dead Fred. Okay. Comes a bendy romp sprouting from the deep recesses of the mind and the lingering ravages of stress, trauma, and the gift that keeps on giving mental illness. Bottom line, an engaging energetic thriller that reminds us all the power. of our childhoods, the meticulousness of mental health, and what can nostalgically and damningly follow us into adulthood, imaginary or otherwise. 7.5 out of 10. That one was depressing.

Yeah. So what's his name? Patrick Schwarzenegger was in it. Yeah. Was he? Okay. I watched it and it was depressing. It was good, but I had to watch something happy afterwards.

Yeah, office space. I think I would have to, I think that's a good comparison, like a fucked up drop dead Fred movie. That's a great one. Number 11 is Peninsula. Bottom line, a distinct yet enjoyable sequel that takes the somber master for original narratively forward to the action-packed violent wasteland.

even with some flaws and ridiculousness there's gritty surprises uddles of blood and enough thrills to justify this particular progression can't wait to see where this franchise goes from here and just what will approach and will be attempted next eight out of ten

that was good it was good it was more of an action movie than an outbreak or whatever it got you with the feels in the very beginning and didn't get you that hard at the end. So, but

when's that remake coming out of the last train in New York? Yeah. Nothing, nothing's coming out out,

so I couldn't tell you. Right of strike. See, that's not going to hit you as hard. You know the outcome. So you're expecting me. They'll change it up.

They'll change it up. There's going to be really, there's going to be a lot horn action based on the director. All right. We got a couple of more here. We got number 12 is downrange.

One wrong turn deserves another, or so I've heard. Some have called it an excessive exercise and brutality. Others have said it's a berserker of a flick with a little regard for structure and plot. And even more few, even a few more have stated that it's a shallow heap that's devoid of relatability and pathos. All right. Yet, in this day and age, that's certainly not the case either,

considering we live in a gun-obsessed nation that's morally reprehensible in regard to that. Because of this element, this roadside nightmare reaches an authentic bleatness that's rather chilling. Eight out of ten. What year did this one come out? I know.

I remember watching... Yeah, I remember watching in, like, early days of doing this show. It's interesting, interesting premise. I mean, you pull over to change a tire or something. Oh, okay. All right, I found you.

I'm trying to shoot you with a sniper rifle. Oh, I got you. All right. You see that one, Charles? No. Shutter. I'm sorry. It was like Australia or something.

I missed it. I did see this. I'm watching the little clips of it on IMD. Yeah, I saw this. I don't remember much of it, but I saw it. Not to rewatch it. And we've got number 13, Malum.

Doesn't happen often, but yet when it does, it's very unfortunate. Here we have a feature that has everything going for it in nearly every department. A freaky and confusing incubus about a rookie cop taking a last shift at a decommissioned police station, only to start witnessing various strange and blood-curdling occurrences centered around an alleged ritualistic massacre that took place years. ago. Perhaps a second viewing down the line will solidify many of the components here in the right manner, though it's doubtful. Unfortunately, this just isn't the right movie at the right time and certainly not the right shift. What's it called? Malam. Have you seen a... It sounds like the last shift. It's a reboot of the last shift. Same director too. Yeah. I recommend this

the original one if you if you had to pick one oh last shift is better yeah it's it's basically it's it's like the sam ramy thing what evil did he got a little bit more money so he wanted to expand on certain things

but the other the original one just had a certain tone that just worked with it right okay well it's on stars I'll check it out and number 14 is silver bullet. Yes.

Rest of peace, Corey, here. Yes, rest of peace. Nothing like a classic, campy, lycanthropic excursion to get the adrenaline rushing and laughter bellowing. And that's exactly what you get from this 80s peckish romp taken from one of Stephen King's many short

stories, or novella, since it's his shortest one. Overall, this was another rampant semi-good time. Semai. And the kind of flick that I'd recommend for anyone looking for an alternative to the howling grades in the subgenre. Sure, this wears missteps and faults well, but there's plenty that make it either a solid parody of itself

or a serious fare with some wit and vibrancy. Either way, there's a bad moon rising, and it's bathed in crimson and idiocy. And some down-home country-fied personality, 6.5 out of 10. It gives it a great one you do. It's not bad. than a 6.5. Yeah, right. Man, I don't know if I can agree with you on a couple of these. Those were the days, though, when you didn't care.

Any Stephen film came out yet. Stephen King had to see it. And no matter what studio put it out, no matter what crap it was, you know, it was still worth keeping the DVD of you needed it. And you get young Corey Haim and you get Gary Peeleman. as his uncle. Yeah, that's right. Who doesn't love Gary Bucci?

Alcohol of uncle. Being Gary Bucy. Hey, he built him that awesome wheelchair. Yes, he did. It's a great uncle. That blinds down the road. I think is great.

Did you read Cycle of the Werewolf plants? Yeah, it's a graphic novel. Yeah. It's not a graphic novel per se, but it has a lot of illustrations in it. I enjoyed it. It was one of those things where, like I am right now,

I'm reading all the Sandman graphic novels because I try to read 24 books in a year and I'm way behind. So I try to get through this. My stuff is like rush to do. I got to check out that. How many pages? I'm just going to ask you. How many pages in that?

It looks pretty thick, Charles. It's not worried for two weeks. That's insane. The author is thick. But the book itself is about 200 pages. You hear that, ladies? That's pretty good. Yes.

Whoa, wait, let me see that again. That's pretty awesome. I'm going to check it out. All right. Is that on Charles? Is that on Amazon? It is, yeah. True ghost stories.

Okay. Are they all autographed? Not the Amazon ones. No, you got to get it. Ah, we'll email you after the show. Where can we get an autographed one? Yeah. From www.

Paranormal, Connecticut. it.com. Oh, okay, there you go. All right, there you go. Asking, you shall receive, boys. That's it for listener feedback. As always, our show, intro, and all of our new logos come from Steve Carlton from the geeks, and be on the lookout for some more great stuff from him.

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a month. Just give us a dollar. And you can pick a commentary for a future bonus show. Come on the show with this. Hang out. It'll be fun. One more time. Paranormal. I'd buy that for a dollar. Paranormal. What was the website again, Charles? www.

paranormal, Connecticut.com. Paranormal connecticut. Connecticut. All right. Maybe I'm misspelled like connecticut. Yeah.

Spelling Connecticut. On to our featured attractions. This week, an hour later. This week, we returned to the Pet Cemetery for Pet Cemetery 2, as well as the all-new Pet Cemetery Bloodlines. We'll start with the classic Pet Cemetery 2. That's right, classic. A teenage boy.

Hey, what are you doing? Getting things ready for mom. Mom's dead, Chad. She doesn't have to be. Something strange. I didn't think much about it until I saw him drag the body out of the coffin. Something ancient. Burry your own.

Something evil. Was it your idea of a joke to send me blood from a dead animal? This dog is alive. Not this dog. Something terrifying is happening in Ludlow, Maine. Again. Yeah. sure is.

I may be thinking of it. No, it is, definitely. That sounds like a rock thing. Wait, wasn't the second one? That's it. All right. Sorry, guys. There we go.

Right there. All right. Paranoma, Connecticut. All right, got it. Thanks. Mary Lambert has stated that her original concept for the film would have involved Ellie Creed as the central character. The only survivor from the first.

film okay however survivor from the from the remake spoiler alert brian however paramount was not confident in making the films lead a teenage girl so the story was written with a completely new characters and a male protagonist that sounds like propaganda uh the monster arm prop used on set uh at the beginning of the film was actually the arm of a skeleton on the pond and the TV miniseries version of it. Oh. Look at that. Reusing stuff.

All right. Charles, what did you think about Pet Cemetery, too? Glad you mentioned Gary Busey, because he could have played the stepdad perfectly. Oh, yeah. He could have, but God damn it, man. That was a role of a lifetime. But the guy who played, what's his name? The guy who played?

Clancy Brown. Phenominal. And, guys, I can't remember films. Like, I can watch something and then two weeks later until I get like two-thirds into the movie. Oh, yeah, I freaking saw this already. Yeah, I do that. Sure. I watched Pet Cemetery 2 again.

And the second I saw his face, I'm like, yeah, I'm so psyched. I'm watching the series. Yes. Because of a lifetime. He is the film. He is so great in it. Every scene he's in is amazing. just makes the film just phenomenal.

And I love the original. And, you know, Herman Munster. Every bit of the original is great. And I got to tell you as a prelude, because earlier I said, no matter what Stephen King movie came out, I would watch it. I lived in Japan.

I was in Japan like six or seven times. And I lived there for eight months. And when I knew I was moving there, I pretty much brought every Stephen King book with me to catch up. And I started with Dead Zone and I'm like, I've never read anything this great in my life and became addicted. And when I hit Pet Cemetery,

I thought nothing will ever be better than this. And I couldn't wait for the film to come out. And it's a rare scenario where I love the film almost as much as the book in a Stephen King scenario. And there's not a lot of those. So when Pet Cemetery 2 came out, I couldn't wait to see it. and never thought I would enjoy it as much as Cemetery One.

I don't know if I did then, but watching it now, I loved it. I loved every step of it as well because of the Clancy's wrong. And, you know, even Edward Furlong didn't hurt it. Yeah, it's got the Terminator kid in it. What are you going to do? Yeah, yeah. And even the whole buildup and then there was a Carrie-esque ending with the fire and all that. I don't want to jump ahead.

No CGI either. That was real fire. It was not. It looked like real fire. It couldn't have been real fire because there were layers of it. If there were, it was really beautifully done in segments of set of the set, then that's even more impressive. But you know what? If somebody doesn't love films the way we might and they see that movie, they're going to say, oh, God, that was a piece of shit.

But it wasn't. It's every reason the people like us love movies that was made for. And I don't know if the general public bought into it and it was a big success financially. I don't know. I didn't research it. But damn, I loved it, guys. Thank you for having this show. And I wouldn't have watched it again except for being able to talk about it.

Those are the best parts, man. Des what you think, dude? I saw this when it came out. Now it was the only time I pretty much saw. I don't remember it at all. It's total early 90s. I had that feel because 90s movies, 90s horror movies, threw in every whoever the newest hard rock band was.

So it seemed to me like it was just a full video. That's a great soundtrack. Had a great soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I loved about. I loved all that. Clancy Brown. you can never go wrong with him. Eddie Furlong, he's awesome. Billy from Big. I don't know what's

real name. Jared, something. You got Goose. I hate Top Gun to everyone. I'm sorry. But Goose was awesome in this. The little chubby boy. I liked him. The mom, Lisa Waltz, she played Amanda Gilbert. I've loved her and just about everything she pops up in, as well as Eddie Furlong's mom. uh, Darlene, Fulg or whatever her name is. I love her. Sure.

Um, but for what it was, I mean, it made you hate Clancy Brown. He was just the typical, well, movie, typical movie stepdad that's the asshole.

Uh, you gotta follow him. You know, I pulled around with your mother when we were young. Yeah. Oh, man. The high school sweethearts.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Goose should have knocked him out. and just went to jail. But, of course, you got to have the mean boys. If it was a female, he would have the mean girls.

It was hard to see that. I always see nice little cool Billy from Big or his role in Overboard. And I think he was in one of those honey-eyed... Yeah, I mean, I've always liked him every time he popped up in this. So when he popped up, I was like, oh, cool. But then he was the mean kid. Yeah, he was a super... I liked all the practical effects were awesome.

They didn't hold back on the blood and gore, which I loved. I know it was fake, but I don't like cruelty to animals. And there was a lot in this one. But overall, I thought it was awesome. I had not seen this in a really long. I don't remember I might have been under the influence when I saw it the first. because I remember I saw it's the first time at the drive-in, and I might have had a few, too many by the time this one came on.

Whatever happened to that kitten at the beginning? Did he kill it? No, it was still alive at the end. Oh, okay. They make sure to confirm it. Okay. But, I mean, overall, man, I thought this movie was pretty awesome. I'm surprised I don't have it in my collection.

Now I'm going to have to get it. All right. Brian, what do you think? This is going to be a controversial take, but I think I love this movie more than the original. That's not controversial. No, I get it. I totally get it. This was a part of my childhood. I watched it every time it came on. I tell everybody, if there's a reason to watch this movie, it's Clancy Brown as Gus. Now, you said they did a good job of making you hate him. I kind of liked him.

other than the implied rape of his wife later. Dispicable. But he kind of was likable when he came back from the dead. I mean, he was an asshole before. Every time I heard Drew Buddy, I was like, oh, Drew fucked up again. But then when he came back. Yeah, he was kind of less of an asshole when he was evil. Yeah.

Yeah. I love the tone of the movie. because everything that it's not like the original is the reason I love it for what it is in this one. It's a completely different tone. It's shocking to hear that it's the same director that did the first one. She went a completely different way. And I think she did a great job. This not even being based off of Stephen King's story, like just elements of the original one.

I don't know if you guys notice you get the Creed House in the scene where they're chasing the kid on the body. Yeah. So the mail box. I'm surprised they didn't burn it up. That seemed like a small little town that would burn something up like that. Yeah. Because in the original one, they burned at the end, that's for sure. They burned up the house in the first one, in the original one. Builds kid, that kid that came back from the Army. And I got issues with that. I got issues with that in the next one. All right. We'll talk later. But it was good, though, yeah. Yeah, a fantastic movie.

It looked great, too. There was some awesome shots, especially like that pan-out scene of the cemetery. Sure. And my one gripe is, now the rule is you're supposed to bury your own. Yeah. Gus buried the bully Clyde. Was that his own? Did they have something going on we didn't know about?

Well, I mean, how are we supposed to know? Well, maybe he was like some illegitimate kid or something because he did when he first, when he showed back up and he was dead and he was like, hey man, what the fuck? Like he expected to just let him get away with it. So you're saying he was a lot of people's high school sweetheart. I guess so. It might have been sniffed. It might have been seen that one didn't make it, guys. Okay.

I believe that could be You met him Side, by the way. I'm with it. We're writing our own Pet Semetery 2 fan fiction, so Right. That works.

Clyde was the illegitimate son of Gus. Brian, real quick. 2399 without a slip cover or 2707 with the slip cover? You know I'm going slip cover. Ah, yeah.

But who's selling it, though? Amazon's selling it. I don't trust Amazon's with the slip cover. I don't trust their packaging. Shout factory is just no slip cover. I'm going to search around some. I'd rather look on eBay. Yeah.

Find something closer to the price and then negotiate. You negotiate on eBay? Yeah. You can make an offer. Oh, okay. You can either say yes or tell you to F. off. Yeah.

Yeah. Pet Pet Semetery too. Amazing. Great time rewatching it. Brian, you could end up like ALEL on the geeks and order a bunch of comic books and never get them.

Oh, man. He'll know. He got fucked over big time, didn't he? Yeah. Lance, what did you think about this one? Yeah, I kind of loved it too. I mean, this was Clancy Brown's

role of a lifetime. I mean, I've never seen that dude in anything that I haven't liked him, man. And this was just like, I don't know, the way that the character from start to finish. And like you guys were saying, he kind of became cooler once he turned into a, I'm going to call him a zombie. It was the mashed potatoes, wasn't it? That was the same. Yeah, the mashed potato scene was so, so endearing, you know. Now, granted, he was an asshole to shoot the kid's dog.

That was kind of wrong. It was a super dick move. was wrong. What do you mean kind of? He kind of looked like he had some unhealthy thoughts toward those rabbits there for a little bit. When he was watching him and fuck while he was stroking one.

Oh, he. Yeah. That's a little weird. Yeah. But no, I thought the casting was good. The kid gets to the new school or gets to the school and everybody's talking

about the, well, I guess, starting with the beginning of the movie, right? So you've got the scene, I thought, is the movie going to be filmed this way, where it looks like an old hammer horror movie, but then you find out there on the set, then you had the cheesy death scene, and the kid gets there, and, you know, you get at the group that bullies on him. That one bully was so damn aggressive. He literally waited outside the classroom for the poor kid to come out with the kitten, and then he tortures him by taking the kitten away from him.

I want to know why the hell the revenge of the nerds guy has a medical van. being a small town veterinarian, is he really going to have an emergency medical town? I mean, I thought that was cool. I thought it was cool, too. So much of this movie was just completely like that shit crazy. Like totally surreal. None of this would really happen in this community.

Clancy Brown would, I don't think even as the sheriff, he would get away with this kind of bullshit. Because even the sheriff has a boss, Right? Like, where's the mayor? Like, where's somebody, you know, telling this guy he can't just drive around and abuse people and rape at will and whatnot? Maybe in your world. Well, okay. You can watch the news. There's plenty of that going on. Yeah, that is true. That is true. I guess I need to open my eyes.

Yeah, I'm with that one lady that was banging the whole department. Ah, that's right. Oh, yeah. I'm with Brian. I like that pan away scene of the burial ground. I thought the burial ground. It was really well done. Although I don't know. Like, I want to know who was keeping that place up so well, right? Like every stone was perfectly in place. You noticed all the weeds were pulled from the trail and it was just a clean dirt trail like you'd find it a state park. Who was doing the maintenance on that, guys? The supernatural landscape Was it? Okay, I thought maybe it was the wind ago, but It wasn't the same burial ground. Right.

If you look at the original one and then look at that one, it's totally two different designs. Yeah, even though they showed the Creed House, that wasn't the same from the original movie. Yeah. Okay, well. Something didn't do the homework. Creative license, guys, creative license.

but yeah it was it was a fun movie start to finish the soundtrack was just phenomenal uh but i don't know who the like you didn't really hear a bunch of songs that were like you know pop 40 rock hits they were more like obscure you know kind of like deep dive songs deep tracks but i thought all the songs went perfectly with what was going on in the movie you could tell it was a music director or someone who had experience doing that that that directed it but uh i don't have a lot of bad things to say about this one guys this was this was a fun watch unexpected first time watch brian if you can believe that so my pet's teary too it was fun i this is definitely the first time for me in a long time i mean i'm sure i saw it when it first came out but uh uh i had a great time with it too man

it was it was a it was a lot of fun um i loved seeing edward furlong even though you know going through puberty was just kind of his stick there for a while right but uh uh yeah gus gus was great that main accent gets me it's hilarious uh oh yeah sure and the credit to him because uh what i can remember he's the only one that's actually trying to do the accent in the movie yeah he really is yeah it really was um at i i i didn't hate it when the bully died i was kind of like well you kind of have that shit coming. hilarious.

His scarf gets caught in the wheel and his face gets the wheel. Oh, yes, great. And all Clancy Brown says is, whoops. Whoops. But yeah, I had a lot more fun with this movie than I expected to. I expected it to just be really schlocky and bad. And it was a whole lot of fun, man.

It was a good movie. All right. Let's do scores. Charles, what do you think? One to ten. Yeah, I give it a nine, guys. I am. And I got it away whether I love it as much as...

The first one is probably a better movie, but I think I enjoy two better. Does that make sense? It makes perfect sense. Absolutely, yes. Nez, what do you think? I'll give it an eight. I like it.

It wasn't as good as the first one, but um this being like the first time i've watched it because i don't remember watching it the very first time because one was this 92 yeah i was like a billion years ago but yeah but no yeah i mean i'll give it an eight you know wait you know what i'll bump it up to a nine because the soundtrack was awesome all right all right getting some uh brian oh i totally agree with everything charles said the first one is probably a better movie but this one is so much much fun and I've rewatched so many times. This is an easy nine.

Damn. Wow. Lance, is it as good as the remake? I'm going to say I'm going to give my first ever of a score, okay? I've already, I've already given a negative 10 for Jaws the Revenge. So I'm going to give, I'm going to give Clancy Brown's performance in 11. I'm going to say this one goes to 11. But as far as the movie itself, oh, man, it's an easy eight and a half. It's a blast.

It probably, I got to go back and look at 92, but I don't remember the early 90s having a lot of great stuff. So it could have been my favorite movie that year going back. I don't know. But super fun movie. Yeah, I think I heard of trivia that Clancy Brown, the Fangoria Awards. He was nominated for Best Villain. But he would have won, but it was the same. Same year that a silence of the lambs came out.

Oh, wow, wow. So much for it being my favorite of the year then. Yeah. I knew that before, even looking it up. All right. I'm going to, I can't believe I'm the low man on the totem pole here. I'm going to give it an eight. Okay.

I think it was a great movie. Yeah. I mean, you know, was it a great movie? Probably not. But it was a lot of fun. Yeah. It was fun to watch. And that's worth the whole lot.

Everybody recommends Pet Cemetery to go watch it if you haven't seen it a while. The kicker that made me bump it up thinking of the soundtrack, you got L7 in this music in here. And to close it out with another Ramon's song, Poison Heart, I was just like, oh, my God. Yeah, I just totally forgot the Ramones ended it like it did with Pet Cemetery in the original ones. So, yeah, that's why I bumped it up to a nine. Plus you got Drama Romo. You got Jesus and Mary Chain. All kinds of the good band.

and deep cuts all right let's move on to pet cemetery bloodlines the brand new and it's on Paramount Plus yeah so yes if you haven't checked it out

CBS all access Philip yeah there you go oh I can't get mad at them now right now I'm not going to go into it but I'm I'm pissed off at sports stuff at the moment I know I get it I get it

their streaming services are garbage NFL, you own a day of the week. Fix your fucking website. All right. There's my tiny rent. At Cemetery Bloodline. How am I going to say it? In 1969,

a young Judd Crandall and his childhood friends band together to confront an ancient evil that has gripped their hometown of bloodline. How? What have you done? We have to find Timmy. Now stop this. I held him the day he came in of his world.

And I'm going to hold him the day he goes out. Dead. He's better. World records and is completely death. Good to help. That's always nice to hear when you see these vicious animals in these movies and they got a name like Jelly Bean in real life. Jelly Bean's very lucky. Jelly Bean didn't have to hear any of the script in this movie.

That's right. Well, that's the only trivia we got for this one. So interesting enough. Charles, what did you think about Pet Cemetery Bloodlines not to give away? It had a great soundtrack. Did it? Yeah, I was surprised. I thought, you know, here's a straight to what's today's version of a straight-to-video film.

Didn't expect. I think the first thing out of it was Bad Mood Rising. I can't remember what it. But I thought the soundtrack was really held itself up, and that's all I can say positive. I mean, David DeCovny was good. Good enough. Camp Greer, I love, you know, so, but I think there was just a paycheck for those guys. Henry Thomas, everyone who was in it was good, but.

Yeah, it had a hell of the cast. But you're talking about a film that has such a great legacy to it, And it was minimalized to, well, you know, you shoot zombies in the brain, you shoot these guys, shoot them between the eyes. Right, right, right, right. Like that, you know, the simple way out is, you know, Native American land. I mean, that's, you know, okay, well, could have come up with something more original. It didn't engage me. I probably shouldn't have, but I expected so much more from something that's, you know,

a pet legacy, a pet cemetery, a legacy film. And I think in other hands, this could have been a much better film with the same cast and with, you know, with similar concepts. I think it just, I didn't enjoy it. It was not a lot to enjoy from it, except for jelly bean. I can see that, except for jelly bean. He was awesome. Ness, what do you think?

Oh, you're on mute. Just like jellybee. I thought everything in it was cool. I liked what they were doing. David DeCovine and Elliot, he's only Elliot in my eyes. Elliot was awesome. David DeCovny, anytime he was on the screen, I thought he was good. Somebody needed to do their homework because they did not pay attention to detail from the first film with this one.

if this is supposed to be a prequel for Judd, I was kind of like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, I hated the remake, but I was like, at least kind of follow that story you guys already gave us. So I was kind of thrown. Is it a prequel to the remake? Or is it a prequel?

I think it's prequel to the remake. It's a prequel to the remake. The answer is yes. If it was a prequel to the original one, it was all wrong. because that's not the way they killed Timmy or whatever the hell

his name was. That's not how they killed him. Because his dad died, but they died in the house together. Yeah. And Foxy Brown, you can never go wrong with Pam Greer.

I thought she was awesome. I did like the main little weirdo kid. What the hell was his name? We'll just call him that. The boy, the Tim, Not Timmy. What was

Ducovenny's son's name? Wasn't it Timmy? Yeah, Timmy was the Cubney. Timmy was a little Timmy. Timmy, whatever his name was. I like Tim. Elliot's son. Yeah.

He was good. The guy that played Judd, he didn't look like no John Lithgow. Okay. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Why? That's kind of about three, too.

He's, that's who Henry Thomas is the father of, right, is Judd Crandall. Yeah. Yeah. Why does Joe Crandall look older than Henry Thomas? Good point. Although, having said that, though, he's the only one that looked even remotely 60s, 70s-ish. You know what I mean?

Like, the way he dressed and his haircut and all that? Yeah. Yeah. Like, the rest, like, it was obviously a period piece, but you couldn't even fucking tell. Sure. Well, I don't know. Except that they had a VW bug at some point. wearing the girlfriend was wearing Bobby socks and had a ponytail right you know I don't know what

bobby socks and fucking lip fillers in a nose job and makeup up and down her face and manicured eyebrows because the the the dog that they supposedly um in the remake uh judge when they go to the pet cemetery the first time with the creeds and they go oh here's my dog and we see the grave of that dog and He didn't even have a dog in this one. I know. I was like, because I was thinking someone, someone said online was like, well, maybe he had a dog later and he felt bad. I'm like, after all that shit he went through, he's going to go take his dog up there. I'm like, no, after all the numerous people died, I was like, no way.

So I don't know. They didn't do their home. They didn't do their homework at all. You're right. Another inconsistency because like in the original, I guess we're kind of getting into spoilers, but fuck it, it's a Paramount movie. A little bit, yeah. That's okay.

Another inconsistency, because I think he said his dog's spot was, I think it was spot in the original. You sure it wasn't Rover or Fido? I don't fucking remember. It might have been Fido, but it was something else in the remake. But then, like, he said that he, like, he buried it and it came back. Yes.

And then he killed it. His dad put it down again. Had to put it down. But, like, when he was younger. So he should have already known this shit was happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So why do you get into this situation to begin with, right? Yeah. Yeah. So on top of it, I don't know. If all this situation was occurring and he had already been through all this, why in the ever-loving fuck would he take the new guy to bury his cat in this pet cemetery like it wasn't going to cause a problem? Yeah. See, that's why I said they didn't do their homework in it. So I was like, all right, we're off the rails already.

in this story. Let me just sit and enjoy it for what it is. So I'm like, all right. Yeah. Yeah, they did go into a little more detail with the whole Mick-Mack Indians and all that. So I was like, eh, okay. The trailer was teasing me. I thought they were going to go more, more into it. They went into it a little bit. I would totally watch that. Like an old old school thing. I would like to see that story they showed about with the settlers and everything. I would like to see that. But the big thing to me, you got three indigenous, real indigenous.

actors in this. Forrest Good Luck, Isabella Blanc, and that other, the older gentleman. So I thought that was really cool. Forrest, good luck. He's the same tribe as I am. He's many other tribes, but Navajo, that's the only one I see. So I thought, he was badass in, what was that one? Blood Quantum. I liked him in that movie. Oh, yeah. That's right. And he did some other movies, too. But again, the people that knocked it out of the park for me was Elliot and David de Coveney. I loved every time they were on the screen. Oh, Jack Mulrin was Timmy, Timmy Baderman or whatever. He looked familiar.

What else was he in? Oh, the society. All right. That's what I noticed. Yeah, he just kind of looks like somebody. I thought he did a good job. I mean, I thought it, but the guy that played Judd, I mean, he was good acting, but I just, I don't know. I mean, I couldn't.

Didn't look like Judd, did he? No, he didn't look like. I didn't buy it for a minute. In the original, in the original Pet Cemetery, the little kid, they got to play young Judd, look exactly like Herman Munster. Yeah. I'm sure you can find someone that kind of looks like a young John Liffgal. He didn't even have an accent. Yeah.

That's good point. Girl up, I did my whole life. They were just shoe hoarding in the, the, the, the, one liners in this but they kept shoehorned in sometimes dad is better about 12 times yeah yeah i mean but overall i enjoyed it i enjoyed it way more than the the dumb-ass remake yeah okay good for you i watch this one again oh interesting brian what you think okay um is it better than the remake yes yes it is i will never forgive the remake for trying to make me think they were going to do something different and then did the same exact same thing yeah

bloodlines there's a lot of inconsistencies a lot of uh stuff doesn't make sense like um if judd is essentially taking well that's going into spoilers i'll wait on that part right i think i think we've established for it okay are we doing spoilers safe space yeah let's do yeah we're in a safe space here if If Judd takes over for his father, who is part of this group that watched over the Pet Cemetery, why is he letting people bury shit? That's what I'm saying. And they established all these rules that nobody knows about in the next movie. He knew him.

Well, he must have forgotten him or something. Well, they shot between the eyes and Pet Cemetery. 12 or 13 times in the movie and they still kept walking. I mean, granted, a little slower. But none of the lines when they said sometimes, Dad is Better and this one were as good as the mother and Pitt Cemetery, too, saying, Dad is better!

Join us! Dead is better! Yeah, the cast, I thought the cast was good. I liked everybody. I didn't care for, I think his name was Jackson White, who played Judd Crandall. I just felt like he, he wasn't. unbelievable as Henry Thomas's son.

They looked like they were the same age. Yeah, they kind of did. I was like, he's supposed to be like 16. He's got a receding hairline. Yeah, that's age. We could at least age Henry Thomas up a little bit. My friend was losing his hair when he was 15. The one girl, the main girl, she didn't bother me. That, Nez, that's Dana from the Goldbergs.

Yeah. And fun fact, her sister is the the main girl in the the Chucky series. No kidding. Okay. And the lady that plays the mom, the mayor, that's their mother in real life. No. And they have another sister who was the neighbor in the babysitter with Samara Weaving. Oh, wow.

The boy's best friend. Yeah, they're all actresses and horror movies. That is crazy, man. That's the best trivia we've heard all night. Way to get a start, man. A lot of people got their start for more movies. I think David DeCovine was kind of wasted in this movie. I kind of wanted more of him.

Yeah. Pam Greer was wasted in this movie. Yeah, absolutely. Criminally. But on a re-watchability aspect, I would say I would definitely watch this one over the remake. Because, like I said, you told me you were going to do something. You were going to tease the wind of, go in the remake and then you just heard him stomping around in the woods

well see you and i thought they were going to go further into that in this one and they didn't i did too like they didn't even mention the wind to go in this one i think nez has a good idea i would love to see a movie of the settlers oh yeah i sure yeah but is this one getting any attention like do you think it's gonna create anymore like we'll we're going to get a settler movie or not i mean i'm paramount i can i can say yeah because when i was down in uh when i was down in hollywood with mike um yeah this was everywhere really no boards and all kinds of stuff so they were they were it was before it came out so they were they were they were hyping it up i mean hollywood usually goes for it with um whatever's coming and so

uh but then we all don't live in hollywood so but i'm just saying but But there's a lot of people that come there, a lot of foreigners, a lot of just people that just come to visit. And, yeah, man, they beat you in the head with everything that's coming out. And this billboard, I remember seeing it on just regular billboards. I've seen the big giant ones on Hollywood Boulevard on bus stops on the side of buses, everything. Yeah, they were, they were shoving this down your throat. So I would say they did a good job. And I think I could be, as a listener, correct me if I'm wrong.

not, but I think Paramount is the studio that I think they started their own subdivision, which they're going to be strictly is going to be horror movies because of the success of smile. That does make sense, yeah. Makes perfect sense. I think they should. So, isn't Paramount Scream also? Scream?

Did they do scream? I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's on Paramount West right now for sure. Yeah. And then, of course. course you got the paranormal activity movies you can make those for cheap and pump them out and people still watch them so they're still making those you know they'll never stop

uh lance what do you think oh man um they had a this was really looking forward to this they had a golden opportunity here to uh to build on the majesty that was the remake pet cemetery they they not where i thought you were going to that sentence you say majesty they could have absolutely gone with the um you know the dark twist ending like they did in the brilliant remake of pet cemetery that you didn't see coming at all and if you say you did i'm going to call you guys both liars right now because you didn't see that car scene i don't like when people call me liars gorgeous it was beautiful

it was a beautiful it was a beautiful final dark scene Stephen King himself would love that final scene in the remake he would say the remake is better than the original he would say any of just like he said the mess based on his writing in his story

he'll say anything you give him that check I would do all that being said this was steaming pile of crap because you've got you guys love the acting. I'm not sure what movie you were all watching because... I don't know what you were watching with the original one.

Look, man, David DeCovney was phoning it in. Elliot was phoning it in. There was no one in here that I thought was passionate. I did not buy this hunky, young muscular actress, Jeff Crandall when his dad's like a foot and a half shorter than him. And like, like, you can see. Look like a munchkin. He did a pretty good job.

I thought he did all right. I call this movie The Shoehorn job. So, all right, let's see. We're set in 1969. So what do we have to do, boys? Well, let's Shoehorn in the Vietnam War. Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's do it.

So you've got all these ridiculous side stories that have nothing to do with anything in the Pet Cemetery Methods. And you've got one guy that you find it at the end of the big secret was wow my dad kept me out of the war by saying I had flat feet or whatever can I interrupt you please his son coming back from the war gave him

an excuse I'm not defending saying this is a great movie but it gave him a reason to go bury his son sure he said that after everything well and yeah that was that was from the original Lance hated the original one too

I didn't hate it I watched this I watched the remake right after this one It was the same bullshit that I saw when it came out. All right. Look, you got Pet Cemetery 2, Pet Cemetery Remake, Pet Cemetery Bloodlines. How about that? No.

It's the original part two, this one, then that last garbage one. I've said by piece. I'm passing the baton. Are we doing spoilers or just scores and get a piece out? Yeah, I think we're pretty good and into spoiler territory. Yeah, I kind of agree with a lot of what you guys said. It was a hell of a cast, man. Like, David DuCupny popped up, and I was like, holy shit, he's in this movie.

And, like, Pam Greer was in it. Elliot was in it. It was a good cast, and they didn't do a whole lot with it. And I feel like, Charles, you were right when you said maybe there's a good movie in here. And in better hands, it probably could have been something cool, because I like what they did with the, like exploring the mythos, you know, and then doing the, the flashback scenes of the,

like colonial times or whatever when the, when they first found the land, I thought that was pretty cool. Had they made that a longer scene or an entire movie all on its own, yeah. Yeah, it would have been cool as shit. Um,

I don't know that I hated it, but yeah, it definitely wasn't up to par. And I don't know why it bothered me so much, but it was supposed to be this 1969 period piece. And I just, I didn't get that from anybody, except when they were like, my son came home from the wall. And they put the fucking VW. Which war was that? And they stuck the VW bug out there and had the little hit the hippies dancing in the middle of the fucking Sunflower Field.

whatever. I mean, aside from that, there's nothing that would tell you this movie's in 1969. Tip those fucking awesome chops on Judd. Oh, yeah. And those cars, man, those cars, they were mobbing around in. All of a bad ass. Dude, the 60s had the best cars.

I don't know why everything looks like trash now. The car he was driving around in. Oh, man, that was sweet. And it was pristine. And I was happy they didn't destroy it. Yeah, side note, and I've gone on this little rant before, but all cars look the same now, man. Can we not just like get some 60s remodel styles or something with some newer features? That would be cool as shit.

Can we not, why were we not doing that? Those chargers, they look tough when you look at them. I don't like the rear. Yeah, I don't hate the chargers. Dodge does a pretty good job. They've got the challengers are good, too. But that's about it, man. Everything else looks kind of like a bubble.

A toaster. How about Pet Cemetery Bloodlines? How about Pet Cemetery Bloodlines? Ah, sorry. It was cool to explore the myth, though. So I like getting some backstory. But it's kind of like an obscure Star Wars movie where you're digging into the history of stuff.

And maybe it's not that good of a movie, but they at least give you some good information. and we didn't even get any pod racing Phil yeah I wish yeah I wish it I wish it I wish it was better but it did inspire me to go back and watch some more pet cemetery stuff so at least

it's got that going for it which is nice well you're better man to me went back on the UN Nez went back and watched the remake I wasn't that bad man I didn't hate it I love John Lithgow I wanted to see if they did their homework and because

what was going on in that one well you got your answer niz they didn't even try they didn't even try what if what if this was its own thing and the next movie they do is a different

pet cemetery like a different timeline they already have the jed character they need to man it's too late no i mean Halloween here with 17000 timelines or what And you know what? We watched them all. Yeah, we did.

Yes, we did. Well, and that was another problem I have with this movie because, like, the, the other stories in Pet Semicry were pretty succinct and, like, contained, you know? And this one, it just had so many inconsistencies about everything. Like, even the scenes when, like, people are chasing them or whatever, there were a whole lot of moments where I'm like, why are you doing that? You know? Like, somebody's chasing you, and you're, like,

like running and falling down and not picking up any weapons or whatever, you know, that kind of thing. Like the chick in the hospital. She, like, runs past a bunch of sticks and brooms and all kinds of junk that she could have used to fend this girl off with a fucking scalpel that's this big. Well, I didn't understand why she came after her in the hospital in the first place. Also true. And then how did she end up in the other hallway? I don't know. Is she a ghost now?

I think so. Yeah. I was about to say teleportation powers. I don't think that's how this works. Well, you also become super strong, too, when you come back from the dead. I guess so, because Timmy was walking all backwards and doing his weird shit, man. She picked her up with that king. Yeah.

She's my what? Maybe a buck 10, wet? So much for the sheriff saying, well, they're dead. They're all messed up. Well, I guess that method is his alpha. the window. Elliot had that moment where he like, he,

he, was it, was it Timmy that he beat down? I can't remember. Or he shot him or something. He was laying on the ground. And then he like, he drops his gun and turns around and is like,

are you okay? Let me talk to you for five minutes while this guy behind me fucking gets up and stabs me with the shotgun, which makes no sense. Okay. Yeah, super strength. I guess. He was just,

it was a dump. Finish them fucking off, man. You got them on the ropes. It's like they took what they had from the first one and the original and just, it's all right. It's a, it's a, a prequel. It's on a streaming site.

It's not in the theater. Let's just, let's just give you gore, blood and gore. I kind of agree with you. I feel like they don't think we're going to pay attention to the little, the little things. Let's just give you a movie, slap, cemetery on it you're gonna watch it because you probably have our streaming service yeah then this this director dan well better not write a a star trek sequel or

lance you're not getting a star they'll be roasted on a spit no shit with their inconsistencies in this one they try to fuck around with star track they're gonna get burned well i hope that don't mess up the good burger good burger two when that comes out you guys you guys ready for scores Charles, what do you think? Well, first, thank you for enlightening me that it was a prequel to the remake. Because when I was watching it, I didn't have that in mind. And I think I, you know, as I was excruciating myself through that film,

had I had that in mind, maybe I wouldn't have been so harsh on it. I certainly feel that it established the time period with the music, guys. And I'm going to give it some credibility for that. even though they absolutely phoned it in. I loved seeing DeKovny in it. I love Pam Greer. She can do no wrong. And Elliot, Henry Thomas,

were all just, it's fun to see him on the screen in whatever they're doing. So there's a few points for that. But I didn't enjoy the movie. I just wanted to enjoy it. And I enjoy it. And I, you know,

I give it a three and a half. Three and a half. Out. All right. and a half. Kevin, what do you think? I'll go over a few points. I'll give it a six. Wow. That's better than I expected.

I can't go any higher, but I'll give it a six. I'll watch it again. Brian, what do you think? I'm right there in the middle. I'll give it a five. I like the cast, even though I agree they didn't really do. They didn't utilize the cast as much as they should have. There was some good practical effects in there. but the inconsistencies with the story just kind of just I didn't like you.

Like Nez said, they didn't do their homework. I like Jelly Bean, though. Jelly Bean's awesome. All right, I'll round it up to a fourth of jelly bean. There you go. Okay. I will say that that's a consistent thing in all the Pet Cemetery movies. Whoever these animals are and their trainers, they all,

do fantastic jobs. They look creepy in the movie. And yeah, that's probably the only one of the good things I can say about the movie. I did like the cat in the remake. I did like that cat. Oh, yeah, that cat was pretty awesome in the remake.

A cat passed away recently. Most in peace. And the fucking dog in Pet Cemetery, too, by the way, was gorgeous. Zowie? Yeah. The red eyes, huh? But, yeah, this is kind of middle of the road for me.

So, five. Fair enough. All right. Lance, what do you think? It was, I'm there with Charles. It's three and a half. It's about one third good. It visually, it had some good looks to it.

It was filmed okay, but soundtrack was decent. But, yeah, other than that, not much to write home about. All right. Three and a third. Yeah, that's it. 33 and a third. Yeah. I'm going to give it

I think I think I'm going to go five with Brian I think it's like it's like half good like there's I feel it's frustrating

because like I said I think there's a good movie there and they just yeah gotcha stumbled you know yeah it's it's like they

they had a set idea of what they wanted the movie to be and then they just was like well let's add this and let's add that yeah and I think that's when it

got kind of jumbled you know let's add the special group that watches over the pet cemetery that will never be brought up ever again in any of the other movies who fuck are these people good point killed everyone off except for judd and he didn't listen yeah didn't learn much did he no all right well charles thanks for joining us man uh throw out a couple of links man where where can people find you

well there's the book of top ten horror list which can be found at book of top 10, powerless.com or on Amazon. The one that doesn't make sense is true ghost stories of Connecticut, which is on www. paranormal, Connecticut.com. Tracula tour to Transylvania, www.w.w.draktours.com.

Can you sign up for the tours there? You can read all about it and get in touch with me. the numbers are there, the emails, all that. And then coming up, November 11th and 12th, the Salem paranormal, horror and convention, whatever it is, in Salem, in Salem, Mass, with really a lot of cool, you know, guests and fun stuff, and you get to hang out with me. Like, this makes it fun, guys. I love hanging out with you and talking movies. This was a play.

I got to write another book so I can come back again. Oh, you can come back before then. Yeah. Anytime. You can come back next week, bam, for doing a Halloween 4 commentary. Those are always fun. Put you in a new corner.

Halloween 14 bloodlines. Makes no zone concept and has no connection with any of the other. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. You can reach us at thehorroriturns.com or email us at thehorrorreturns at gmail.com. Next week, like I said, it's going to be commentary week. So, of course, Sean is going to be joining us. But I don't know, guys, this is shaping up.

This could turn into something. I got a call from Owl today. Oh, awesome. Come to find out he grew up in the town that H.J. and I are moving to in Florida. So we've already That's what's wrong with him Yeah we've already started talking So he may be jumping on the commentary

Tavares has reached out He's one of our honorary host Pedro has reached out one of our honorary host Nes I'm sure you'll be there next week For Halloween 4 commentary I don't think I'm going anywhere All right well we're going to have an impromptu THR Halloween parties.

So, Philip, until the whore returns again, good night. So, of course, Sean is going to be joining us, but I don't know, guys, this is shaping up. This could turn into something. I got a call from Owl today. And come to find out he grew up in the town that H.J. and I were moving to in Florida. So we've already That's what's wrong with him Yeah, we've already started talking

So he may be jumping on the commentary Tavares has reached out He's one of our honorary host Pedro has reached out one of our honorary host Nez I'm sure you'll be there next week For Halloween 4 commentary I don't think I'm going anywhere All right

We're going to have an impromptu T-HR Halloween party. So, Philip, until the horror returns again, good night.