The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #389: Jeff Larrimore’s Patreon Picks - The Initiation (1984), Holy Spider (2022) & Candy Land (2022)

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

This week, we salute our Patron Jeff Larrimore and take a look at a few films with a very similar theme, and another...well, the jury is still out. Cool of the Week includes Gran Turismo, V/H/S/85, and The Fall of the House of Usher. Trailer is A Creature Was Stirring, and the podcast spotlight shines on Spooky Sips. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

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and you've still got your commentary coming. Today is Election Day, which I didn't know we voted on anything in Texas, Philip, did you? Yeah, I didn't actually vote, but yeah, I saw them. Is that why all these stupid ads are playing on YouTube, like every five minutes? Probably. It's a big election day everywhere. Yeah, that would make sense.

But I don't think we're even voting for people. It was just propositions. Hey, dude, was it legalizing marijuana? Well, it doesn't matter. I'm moving to Florida. Fuck it. I can get my medical card. Oh, yeah, good point.

Damn, I should have went. You still need to get a card in Florida? Yeah, it's medical only there, man. You know? That's okay. We saw how Oklahoma was with that. Oh, yeah. Oh, and they're all over the place in Florida, too.

But they are, I've noticed they're a lot more discreet in Florida. It's not like Oklahoma where every other building has a marijuana leaf painted on it. Yeah. So. Doctor on demand. Well, look at it this way. Florida is kind of one of, I think the way I perceive it anyway is it's kind of one of those states where, oh, I'll compare it to the old Baptist. where I grew up in East Texas that would vote to make the county dry.

And then every Friday night, they would drive over into the next county and load up on cases and cases of beer and liquor. Yeah, I don't think Florida's like that, man. Well, that's true. That's one of the few states I know where you can actually go in and get shit-faced drunk at a bar and then buy a bottle to take home. I'm pretty sure they sell like liquor at the gas stations. I think you're right.

One of those states in between there does. Yes, I know Louisiana does. Yeah. All right, so we're all back together again for the salute to Jeff Laramore, one of our great patrons. And Jeff picked three movies for us to check out. Let's see, we've got 1984's The Initiation with the first appearance of Princess Vesp. We have Holy Spider from 2022, and of course we have this year's Candyland. Should be interesting, guys. Should be interesting. So you're ready to dive into Cool of the Week?

Yeah, I'll jump in first. As me and Lance have been talking about the past few weeks, we've been doing 31 days of horror. So I kind of had to decompressed from all the horrors. So I had to watch some non-horror movies. Ah, some Christmas movies. No, no. Especially not that whatever bullshit poster you sent me through Messenger. I checked out some

still catching up on movies I missed in the theater. The first one I watched was Grand Turismo. Yeah, is it like the video game? Or, I mean, how could it be like the video game? It's actually based on a true story. It's about the game company teaming with a racing company to put out a contest

because the video game is not just a video game. It's a racing simulator. So they had an idea of putting out a contest, whoever wins the contest, we'll throw them in the actual race car on a racing team. That sounds pretty cool. And this movie is about the kid that went on to become a real race car driver. and I have to say I actually fucking really enjoyed this movie. No shit.

It sounds like it's a good time. Yeah. I don't recognize the guy, the main guy, but it does have David Harvard, Hopper from... Yes. Hellboy. Yeah, he's like the... I don't know what they call him on the race team. Like the basically like the head coach trainer, whatever manager.

Okay. And, yeah, I'm spacing on people's names. Legalus from Lord of the Rings. Orlando Bloom. Yeah, he's like the corporate guy that set everything out. Okay. Is he still doing stuff? Yeah.

When he popped up in a movie, I was like, hey, Legalus, or whatever his name is. But I thought it had, it told a good story. I'm a sucker for real kind of true story, sports movies type stuff. and it was just cool that, you know, he started out playing this video game and his dad, he had one of the dads like, you know, you're wasting your time on this game. He kept telling his dad, no, I'm going to do this for real. Because I guess the dad was a soccer player or professional soccer player. He was the other side was falling into father's footsteps. And he was always like, why can't you be like your brother and get out that stupid game?

Ah, one of those stories, Philip. Gotcha. And it had some emotional moments in it. I won't spoil anything because there's a scene in that that happens to him. I was like, wow, that's really fucked up. And you just kind of root for him to kind of get past it. And it was a good story, good movie. And, of course, at the end, they show pictures of the real guy, which found out he was the stunt actor for the main actor in the movie.

Oh, wow. Okay. I thought you were going to tell me he was actually a real guy. paraplegic or something. I'm like no, I wouldn't put that evil on him, Ricky Boggin. Okay, he drives with a straw. But I want to

I 100% recommend Grave Therichael. Very nice. All right. But another movie, a new movie that came out to us, I do not recommend and is expendable for. No, come on, man. All I have to say is

these guys are legends. Okay. They deserve better than the CGI bullshit. Have we gotten so big that we can't go outside and film a background for real? Oh, no. As far as the characters, like, everybody didn't, like, the new additions are, like, Megan Fox at 50 cents.

They didn't bother me. The only thing that just kept bothering me was, like, you guys are not really standing where you're standing. Shades of. Jeepers, Jeepers, Three or whatever? Almost that bad to me. Ouch. Green screen movie.

And minor spoilers, Stallone isn't in it as much as I wanted him to be. He's doing Tulsa King. Yeah, he's way better in Tulsa King that he phoned it in in this one. But from what I understand, it's supposed to be handing it off to state them now. Oh man, I thought you were going to say they were handing it off to Megan Fox She you know what this is the second action movie I've seen her in that I was like She's not that fucking bad in it but the unbelievable thing is her makeup is flawless Always

After a big fight scene And they also had Tony Jha and Eco UA's Eco UA's is the main actor from the Raid movies what's not to like about that man come on it lans the the the cgi i did the cg i took you out of the i couldn't stop looking at it i'm like this we got jason statham and eco ua's one-on-one in the fight scene and i'm just like oh look at all the cgi was it like 64-bit bullets or what well if you heard if you heard my god Did the dog pop up and laugh at you?

He might have. Time for some water wire fighting. If you heard me and Ness review the first Expendables movie, I think last month. Okay. They did do the CGI thing in there. And it does bother you, but not as much because the action comes first. Okay. But this one, it just, everything looked phoned in.

like we're not going to film outside we're going to film in a front of a green screen that sucks yeah I'm really looking forward to that new Jason State the movie too the beekeeper yeah that one looks cool the beekeeper what do they think of next hey he's not he's not really a beekeeper

and you pissed him off spoilers he's going to send his bees after you So I do not recommend that one if I had to give. Grand Theresa's score, I give it an 8 out of 10. Oh, wow. That's top 10 material. Expendables, I give it a 2. Ouch.

That hurts, man. I do kind of hate watching those movies with guys that I used to really love. Yeah, I know. Because it's sort of just sad. So sad. And real quick, my daughter wanted to watch the Fast and Furious movies. Okay.

So we've already seen the first six in the past week. Ooh. Damn. Okay. She is not a fan of, not a fan of certain characters in there. Which ones?

Do you elaborate? She hates Mia, Jordana Broussler's character. That's fair. She's going to have to deal with her for a while, I'm afraid. Yeah. She's not a big fan of Tyrese's character,

either. Oh, come on. What's not to like about that? He's got some redeemable moments in the later ones. Comic relief, man. Come on. She doesn't find them funny. Her favorite characters are Paul Walker

and Han. Han. Oh, and Han is probably going to go on to direct some more movies now. Tokyo Drift is my favorite one. No shit. Yeah.

Funny you should say that because I asked her because I was like, we're, we speeding through these movies super fast. And no pun intended. Yeah, almost done with the franchise. What's your favorite so far? And she said the first one in Tokyo Drift. Yeah. Are her favorites. Okay.

Because it was like a different movie in the universe, but it was like really just as good. And does it make you feel weird when you find out characters real names and movies? What do you mean? Like, and don't breathe when you did the commentary with the binge guys, and you found out the blind man was Norm, Norman, Norman Nordstrom. We're watching the Fast and Furious movies, and I just realized Michelle Rodriguez's character, Letty, is Lettisha. Uh-huh.

And it just doesn't hit the same as Lettie. Yeah. But it's not as worse as Norman. Nordstrom. No. I was saying, I'm a blind guy a name.

Yeah. Well, you know, immediately lose the intimidation factor. Yeah. Right.

He was so mysterious. I mean, you knew there was something to him, but you just didn't know, and they just

kept referring to him as the blind man. And then when you guys did the, did the commentary, I think somebody was like, did you know his name was Norman?

Norman, Norman, Norstrom. Oh, wow. But that's all I got to watch. I was going to start the fall of the House of Usher based on both of your guys' recommendation. Yeah, that's not bad. You've been talking about it,

then Lance messaged me about it, so I'm going to start it tonight. Yeah, any Flanagan stuff is worth it. You might have a long night ahead of you, Brian. That's all I'm going to say. I'm going to get a couple episodes in. we were planning on watching Furious 7 or whatever the fuck it's called. She's not really understanding the titles as they go on.

I don't think anybody is. I told you, you're looking too hard into it. Just go with it. Yeah. They all sort of blend together after a while. Well, I checked out the VHS 1985. Is that what it was? Yep.

Yeah, and it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it. I wish they'd maybe tie it together a little better at the end. But, uh... Okay. Yeah, that's what AJ kept saying. She said, are they going to tie all these together? But alas, they didn't.

Yeah, but like the, uh, the, the first, the first little video where they're out on the boat and there's like a sniper. Oh, yeah, yeah. That one was super cool. and I wish I knew more about that. But you do learn a lot more about it, man? A little bit, yeah. Okay. Man, you're hard.

You're hard to please tonight, Philip. Come on. Well, no, but it was a good movie. I was pretty impressed with it. It was way better than that last one. We still need to get Pedro on for the talk about it. Let me text him see if he's available. You guys carry on.

Well, that's kind of all I got, man. I watched that one and sports and work, man. Fucking Cowboys, not cool the week. They did cowboy things. Oh, yeah. Did you get the crying Jordans that Loislewad was kind enough to post and I was kind enough to forward? Yeah, man, rough, rough loss, but that's...

Yeah, I didn't even know that they lost. and I just got the email. I was like, why is it sending me this? No, that was the Cowboys playing like the Cowboys, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. Or snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. That's what it is. Or as my son-in-law likes to say,

that's just the Cowboys doing cowboy things. Yeah, it absolutely is. But what are you going to do? Hopefully they get better. Well, how many Super Bowls have the Texas been in versus the Cowboys, so, you know, there is that. Although the Texans seem to be pulling it together. In Texan sense, sure.

They're still not going to do anything, but... So is that it, man? VHS 80-5 for you? That's all I got, dude. Okay, well, let's talk a little bit more about this House of Usher, guys. Okay. All right. I'm really not sure.

I'm not sure how Flanagan does it. This is possibly the, okay, and so I started out, you know, old TV shows, right? We had like Star Trek, which was episodic. We had like Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, you know, I guess if you're into that type of thing, friends, stuff like that. You had that phase of TV. And then you started getting into, I don't know if it was really kind of, was it lost that started it? Or was it more like, what was the one that Jennifer Garner was in, where she was the spy? The alias?

Yeah, alias, alias. So, yeah, that's, man. I haven't either. Oh, wow. Okay, well, that's when you're showing. I know, I know of it. That started like what people call, like, the new golden age of television, where they weren't doing, like, episodic story of the week stuff. but they started like, it basically made like,

and like the TV show 24, for example, right? Like it's basically a 24 hour long movie, although with commercials more like 18 or whatever. But anyway, I digress. If that. So I started with Lost. That was the one that kind of got me into the serialized TV stuff. And obviously up till now, Breaking Bad has been my favorite of all time.

But as much as you guys have heard me gush about all the other Flanagan stuff, I don't think any of them holds a candle to this, man. This is quite possibly, and this is when I'm going to rewatch several times. And this has got me inspired to go back and read lots of Edgar Allan Poe stuff, but the way that this guy and his team are able to weave all the Edgar Allan Poe stories, all of the Edgar Allan Poe dialogue straight from the books and the poems, It's just seamless. Everything fits perfectly. Every character is different enough. Don't get me wrong. All the characters are hateable, but you kind of get to know them and you get to know their redeeming qualities and you start to understand what may these certain evil people do evil things and, you know, the cycle that they're trapped in and stuff like that. But in my opinion, this is quite possibly the most beautiful piece of television I've ever seen in. my life.

Scenes had me in tears. Scenes had me yelling at the TV. There was a little bit of humor in there. There were, and Flanagan is great with reusing, and I don't know if this has a lot to do with how good his stuff is, but he works with the same people a lot, like over and over and over again. So this was almost like the culmination of his Netflix.

In fact, this show was so good that guys, I just got an email that said your Netflix account is going to be going up to $25 a month. Jesus. Shocker. $25 a month. What plan do you have? It's like the super premium that's grandfathered in. All my kids and grandkids are watching it.

It's like I'm on the most expensive plan. But yeah. But here's the thing. He's leaving Netflix and he signed a contract with Prime. And of course, the big rumor is he's going to be doing the Stephen King's, Dark Tower series. I heard that that might not be the first thing he does. Yeah, he's doing Life of Chuck, which is a short story.

Well, not a short story. It was a novella that came out a couple of years ago, which was also a king work. But look, this whole show was just an absolute love letter to Edgar Allan Poe. And I don't think that there was one moment that I wasn't completely captivated with everything that was going on. AJ watched it with me. The acid test is that she fucking loved it also. I could not stop watching.

This is one of those where like, it's 2 a.m. And we're clicking, you want to watch the next one? You want to watch the next one? You want to watch the next one? Yeah. It's eight episodes. It does not overstay its welcome. And every character in it makes perfect sense.

Now, what really blew me away, as much as I loved everything that happened, there was some dialogue in the final episode of this. that just, I don't know, Flanagan, I don't think he wrote it in a vacuum because there were like five or six other people on a writing staff with him. I looked at the credits, but they just somehow crystallized

everything that's wrong and everything that's right with this country and this world right now. And it did not get heavy-handed. So to pull that off without getting heavy-handed was, I don't know. It's just a matter. masterpiece. It's a work of art. I'll say it now, man. I love beef. I love The Bear. I love The Last

of Us. There's been some Chuckie. There's been some great. No, I'm sorry, man. TV wise. Okay, I'm with you. But there's been some great of the bear. I walked into that one. and that's funny because I was just listening to the geeks review Winnie the food blood and honey so how's that? Because if you get up with a bear, there's going to be some blood involved.

I don't know about honey. All right. No, man, this is a masterpiece. I'm calling it now. There's nothing that can rival this for my favorite TV show of the year. I mean, I'm thinking this may be my favorite television show I've ever.

seen in my life. I mean, eight episodes, they kept it neat. They tied it up perfectly. That's true. They left no loose ends. Flanagan, I cannot wait to follow you over to Amazon Prime. I just might have to give up my Netflix membership. Although we've already got a Prime membership anyway, because AJ does so much shit for work. Yes, he's Prime 4, so we're not paying for it anyway. But, man, I cannot say enough about fall of the house of usher. I will get it watched and talk about it next week because you had me at Carla Gujino

even though you didn't even say her name. She's awesome in this. I am gonna have her to get. There's two main characters and she's one of them. How about that, Brian? You see a lot of her. Now, unfortunately, not nude.

I've seen that I've been breaking my heart now. I've seen the trailer. I've seen the usual suspects and the Mike Flanagan movie or TV series. I've seen he's even brought back the main girl, Abra,

from Dr. Sleep. She's in there. I think that this one, Brian, had every single major or semi-major character in any of his other Netflix shows. I mean, like, I recognize every single face in this.

Maybe there were a couple of new ones. So it's basically the Philaniverse. It's the flanniverse. I like that. I think you need to coin that. Yeah, somebody will before I get a chance to. Man. It's probably Aria thing and you don't

want to know. I would, you know what, to watch this, I would like to own this when it comes out on DVD. I might have to do the old steelbook thing if they do a steel book like Nes loves to do so much. It's a funny thing.

Netflix rarely releases their stuff. There's a reason. There's a for that there's a $25 a month reason for that yeah the only thing that I own that I know that's been released from Netflix is like a couple seasons of the stranger things because they released them in the collectible like VHS kind of case that makes sense that makes sense but as far as anything I think they were originally like when Orange's new black was coming out they were releasing

that but then they just stopped I guess like you said they figured We're making people pay $25 a month. To access it whenever they want, right? That's crazy. I'm paying $15. Well, you don't have the family spread that I have, Brian. No, they can pay for their own. Yeah.

Well, yeah. We'll see how this Florida thing goes. We may have to go in that direction or something, but... Weird, once you start adding all that shit up, how it comes out to more than cable. yeah yeah i know man all access thank you that was my point from oh that's right

they got the ball rolling well i will say as far as right now with shows and stuff well they're paramount plus now they're actually the most i hear about as far as having the best shows streaming right now

they have a lot of great stuff man well you can go on there right now Brian and watch the the pet the pet cemetery remake well that's that's how well I have

Paramount because it comes with it comes with Showtime now yes it does but I will not partake in Pet Cemetery remake I do just because of my memory of it

with you guys I do own it in Steelbook but it still has the of course it And it will never be over. And it will be worth millions. You and Ness are like, this is the worst fucking movie I've ever seen. I have to own it in Steelbook right now.

I talked about it when I was doing 31 days with Ness. I buy even the bad movies that we do because these are like memories of with you guys. It's a collection. Yeah, because I bought, I did, we did one. It's it called like Don't Answer the Phone. I did that with Nez and Nez did not like that movie. And then I saw it was available on Blu-ray and I bought it like that week. Because these are like, these are my memories with you guys.

See, I halfway think that Nez bought that Black Christmas episode or that Black Christmas movie just to wave at us. I think you're right. He might be right. I think he likes it. You really think he likes it? you and nez sometimes oh here we go

you more so than nez okay you never can tell yeah I never know when nez is going to actually hate something and with you I never know when you're going to actually like something I like that man let's keep it that way

let's keep it that way speaking of which do we have any news any headlines Brian besides the writer's strike uh writer strike No, right. The actor's strike from what I've heard there in final negotiations, so hopefully

everybody can get back to work. Like there's a shortage of actors. Yeah, but I... Let the little guys get a chance. Yeah, because I... No kidding. That's who I feel for is the... I do, too.

The smaller actors that rely on stuff like that. Oh, and did you hear the story about what George Clooney tried to do. Okay, so Clooney blesses P-Pick and Heart, right? His naive P-Pick and Heart, he

made a proposal and I think there was like 20 or 40 of like the top tier, most highly paid actors working in Hollywood. And he had a private meeting with him and he proposed, he said, hey guys,

I've got an idea. Why don't don't each of us take like four million dollars of our own money, put it into a pot and pay off all these little actors? I think he was voted down like 38 to 2. Did he call them little actors? Are you all hearing, are you all feeling the irony here? Wow, George. Oh man. Hey, he tried. He tried. But he was voted down like 38 to 2 or something. Like, They ain't getting my money. We had America, damn it. All right.

Texas Frightmare 2020 news. We got some more guests named. Oh, very nice. Damn, we're coming out early. Yeah, Roger L. Jackson. Okay, not Samuel. The voice of Ghostface will be at Texas Frightmare. Okay.

Samuel's little brother? Yes. Marley Shelton You guys probably best know her She's been in a ton of movies But best know her as Officer Judy In the screen movies Oh okay

Okay So it looks like there There might be putting together a screen panel Oh man that'd be cool Dude if Jenna Ortega shows up Things are gonna get nuts She's way too big Yeah

Can we get a first Can we get a first look at her? Sorry I might get her Stop taking down for that Okay Freddy Rodriguez He was in Planet Terror

Six feet under He was Makes me think there might be also A Planet Terror panel Because Marley Shelton was also In Planet Terror Okay Okay

The lovely Misty Wallace Is gonna be there And Joe Dante say, from such films as Piranha, the Howling Gremlins, Twilight Zone, the Burbs. Wow. Now, that's a legend. That is a legend right there. That's going to, he's probably going to have his own room like Clive Barker did, you know?

Oh, I'm sure. The Burbs. We've got to cover that one at some point. Maybe a patron will recommend it. We didn't do that one? I don't think we've done the Burbs. Uh-uh. It's getting too much now. I don't even know.

Yeah, I got to get that spreadsheet together, man. Tonight we're going to review our second double review after The Exorcist. So we're like, what, one month in a row now? We've done two that we've done before. Ah, well, it's Patreon. What are you going to do? All right. Yeah, they run the show, right?

Let's pull up some news. This is, I usually try to separate TV and movie, but. Fuck it. Let's see. I know we got some Terrifier 3 news, because if you went to see the re-release this past week, they showed the Terrifier 3 teaser only in theaters. Okay. And Terrifier 3 gets the October 25th, 2024 release date. And it looks like it's going to be a Christmas movie.

That's what I heard. That's the rumor I heard. I think I heard the geeks talking about that. Well, they released a poster today. Okay. He's wearing a Santa Claus suit with a... Well, there you go. Looks like somebody else's face, so...

Wouldn't it be great if he wore a Grinch mask in one scene since he plays the mean one? Still got to watch that. Oh, I've already committed, AJ, to that being one of our Christmas movies. so lunch of Lance on that one no the mean one oh the mean one let's see

unfortunately because of the strike production was shut down on the prequel series for Stephen King's It a series called

Welcome to Dairy which was going to be on Max since production was shut down release date is pushed to 2025

oh wow wow Which, from what I understand, Max is kind of hurting for content, which might be good for us horror fans because the Salem's lot movie that had its release day pulled earlier this year, they might just release it to Max because they have no new content to release because of the strike. Oh, no. Good point. And you'll be excited to see Salem's lot, Phil. James Bond produced. Oh, yeah, okay.

What holds a whole lot of water? Is that it for news? The Last of Us, they're optimistic about to strike. They think season two will begin filming in early 2024. Let's hope so, yeah. Well, we'll see when it actually comes out. The sequel to Fall, Fall 2 is set to begin filming sometime in June. with the third movie

already in discussion. Okay. Which that's a movie I really wish I'd seen in the theater on the big screen. I know. A lot of people have said... Yeah. That makes sense. Ness said he got nauseous or something when he was watching it.

That makes sense. I get, like, when I see, like, stupid videos of people like trying to jump from building to building or, like, they climb stuff to take selfies, it gives me that weird feeling. Yeah. Like I'm there or something Hanging off the edge of a cliff to take a picture

What are you doing? I hate that so much And they have no harness or parachute or anything And I hate to say it But when you hear them stories Influencer dies Hanging from Tower Yeah

I tried to take a selfie I'm sorry I don't feel bad Not a whole lot of sympathy Yeah. Gotta stop somehow. Let's see. You dang influencers are messing up my view. Don Mancini, the creator of Chuckie,

teases a crossover between Chuckie and Megan. You knew it was coming. I mean, come on. That's going to get weird. It could, or it could be really good. Like the Freddy and Jason movie was pretty damn good. Yeah, that's true. Who goes that battle?

Chuckie, because he could We know that. Dembella himself into other bodies and other Chuckie dolls. Oh, that's true. But then again, not I thought about it. Megan could transfer herself into other... Oh, absolutely. Yeah, just download herself, right?

It'll be an ongoing fight, so there'll have to be a sequel. Demons versus robots. I foresee an army of Megan's, right? Like where they just downloaded into like, you know, 24 different Megan dolls. Oh, well, the new one's going to be called Megan 2.0, so. Sure. Sure, though. Why not?

They upgraded the dolls for some reason. I'm sure they did. It worked so well the first time. They could murder you more efficiently now. Let's see, the sequel to Ghostbusters. What are you doing? You were about to dance. The sequel to Ghostbusters Afterlife is rumored to be called Frozen Empire.

And actually, the day of recording this, we shall get a teaser for the movie tomorrow. Okay. So we'll talk about the teaser next week. That's funny. I was just thinking about Ghostbusters today and wondering if there was another sequel coming out. Yeah, I think it was also affected from the Stridead to shut down production. Yeah, no doubt. guess they have enough to show a teaser so

and lastly we'll talk about five nights at freddies oh yeah i kind of forgot about that one broke numerous records if i can even find my posting there i think it would man let me guess they've already announced seven more movies no they haven't announced it but dang but yes

biggest open weekend for a horror movie in 2003. Oh, come on. Biggest opening weekend for a Blumhouse movie. Ever? Yeah.

And I believe the most streamed movie on Peacart. Yeah. Well, and considering it came out on Peacock and the movie theater and it still had all that shit going on in the theater.

That's pretty good. Pretty impressive, right? And from what I understand, there hasn't officially been announced, but they said Five Nights of Freddy's Two kind of fell in those gaps that are, seems a lot of our kids had questions about, you know, what about this? What about that? Sure. So.

Okay. So it looks like they got a moneymaker on their hands right there. Yeah. I don't know if I'm excited about it or not. but I'm not excited I'm excited if my kids excited if my kids excited yeah there you go

it's it it sort of brings horror a little bit to some new people so that's kind of cool and I'm not sure if I read this from one of the people that was involved with the film but I think they're as they move on with the French kind of like Harry Potter

how it got a little bit more darker and older oh yeah Yeah, that does make sense. It does make sense. Hopefully, maybe we'll get a little bit, well, some gore. Because I don't think we got a whole lot in the first one. Yeah, because they could make that movie pretty scary, I think. Yeah.

All right. That's the news. All right, Philip, you ready to go down to the trailer park? Let's go. All right. We're going to go on down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the... The big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.

What is the first new trailer this week? I'm riding on my tornado. Woo! Well, it looks like we got another movie you can put on your Christmas movie watching this. I was just thinking the same thing. And the movie's called A Creature Was Sturing. Let's see. Synopsis.

Excuse me. my dog's trying to mess with my microphone. Go away. Mine's just laying down being lazy right now. Oh, you can't see him. He's behind the pillows. All right. Synopsis. A nurse taking care of her daughter's mysterious affliction struggles to hide her secrets when uninvited strangers take shelter in the house during a lethal blizzard. And this stars the lovely scout Taylor Compton.

Okay. Annalise Basso and Chrissy Metz And this is directed by Damien LeBeck And Lance I think he did that movie The Cleansing Hour Okay With the online You remember the online exorcist

That were live streaming their exorcism Vaguely Oh yeah I like that movie Vagely Same director Okay That one wasn't it wasn't bad

This one looks fucking awesome. I mean, I love the effects that I saw in the trailer. I hope the movie stands up to that. That's exactly what I was thinking when I seen the trailer. I was like, this looks pretty fucking awesome. I like the premise. I like that the daughter has some mysterious thing wrong with her, and you got these people that are basically forcing their way in to stay because of this blizzard.

I'm like, are you going to let me down, movie? Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what the pre-year. premise is, but... Right? Well, it looks like... There's obviously something wrong with the daughter. They didn't show the daughter. They showed somebody putting on

boxing headgear to go into a sealed-off room. Then there was some kind of monster thing at the end. I was like, what the hell is this? Might be the daughter. Might be. That's what I'm wondering, too. Or is the daughter even really sick?

Or is it one of these were the moms convincing her she's sick. I don't know. It's one of those evil elves that like steals the children and like replicates him or whatever and so something's like incubating inside of her. That could be.

Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to go with her. She's some kind of monster because in the trailer there was like some kind of tunnel through the snow. Mm-hmm. So. That's what evil elves do. That's what I've heard.

That's what they tell me. All right. So it looks like we're all somewhat interested in watching this movie. Oh, I'm all in, yeah. Yeah, I love the trailer. Well, I know. It's totally interesting.

Lance, you got to mix it up from the Hallmark movies. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Got to. That one counts. And like I told Lance, I'm not doing 31 or 25. I'll do 12. 12 days of Christmas, Philip. You can do it with us?

Will you do it with us? Probably not. Oh, come on, dude. Doesn't Rose like Christmas movies? Maybe. I'll think about it. All right. Think it through, man. We'll talk next week.

I feel like Rose has a set of Christmas movies. She only watches. For me, it's elf. It's a, elf. It's National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. and after that I kind of run out of ideas. I need some more ideas here. Mine are...

Mine is Christmas vacation and Scrooge. Ah, Scrooge. That's a good one, but it's not my favorite... Yeah, it's not my favorite Bill Murray movie. But as far as Christmas movies go, why not, right? I like Scrooge. Grimless is a good one. Grimlins is a good one. Scrooge is good because Bill Murray's such an asshole in that movie.

But he's... stapling the what is it he's trying to staple uh antlers on a mouse yes because the the production guy is like the glue the glue's not working i tried super glue and it doesn't work and he's like you try staples yes all right a creature was stirring i'm assuming this is vOD uh December 12 hopefully it'll be on shutter or something. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. And that's all I can find for horror-related trailers.

There was a trailer for the new Marvel series Echo, which looks fucking awesome. Haven't seen that yet. Do you remember the character from Hawkeye, the Native American girl? Yeah, of course. Of course. Yep.

It's going to be Marvel's as far as their series, their first TVMA rated series. Oh. I haven't even started Loki yet, And in the trailer for Echo, you see people get shot in the head and necks broken. Oh, shit. On Disney Plus? Yeah.

Well, they're going to release it Disney Plus and Hulu. Okay. I'm not going to... I get it bundled, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean, I think most people do. And, of course, Vincent Dinoffrio's back is Kingpin. And it looks like Netflix Kingpin. like it's more

like he's more vicious like the Netflix version Yeah I like it I like it So I'm I'm excited for it I mean it for all we know it could be bad But the trailer definitely sold me Probably more than the

The Marvel's movie I might talk about that next week You might be doing a We haven't done a family movie trip with the whole family and yeah you might be doing that I'm not excited for it I still want to watch it but it's not like

high on my list I got about zero interest no I'm gonna be the polar opposite guys I'm like super excited for it because I'm going through Marvel withdrawal Marvel movie withdrawal right now what was the last thing we we got wasn't it Guardians yeah

That was a long fucking, that was a long fucking time ago. Well, I mean, they had to pull back because of the quality of what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, man. We're not used to this. We should have, by now, we should have at least had one more Spider-Man movie. No. Too soon. The last one kind of sucked, Brian.

No, it didn't. I'm fucking with you. You know, I loved it on the second watch. I think they need to dump it all and then wait a couple of years and, start over. Well, that's what the strikes do. You got the X-Men coming, like it or not, so. Well, that's what I'm waiting for you. Are they coming? They are. Guarantee. Guarantee. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been like half a decade. When do those, okay. What are those weird contracts that they've got were like they would still have to use the actors

from the old ones? Is that 25? I don't think that's true. Or unless that's that urban legend? Because I heard. to correct us on this. Whoever's listening. I heard Deadpool 3 is supposed to be like Deadpool kills the Fox Marvel universe, so a lot of those characters are going to be a lot of those characters are coming back

in there. Okay. Yeah, that's what they need to do. That's it. That's the Marvel movie I'm anticipating. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'll go watch that one for sure. You got Hugh Jackman back as Wolverine in the yellow suit. When is that one coming out, Brian?

I think it got pushed to July or something like that. Oh, God. Please, please don't push it back anymore. Because a lot of people think it's going to be Fox. He kills the Fox universe because a set picture of a broken Fox logo was there. And Jennifer Gardner is coming back as Elektra, which makes people think Ben Affle. It's coming back as Daredevil. Okay.

and basically whoever was a Fox Marvel character Deadpool is going to murder all of them I can't wait well that's kind of what he does do it now please God we need this movie and some kind of multiverse way they'll end up bringing him into the

the MCU but they said Deadpool 3 will be rated R and today the director it's fucking better be the director of the blade the blade reboot uh-huh the he said he could confirm that that's going to be rated r also oh man yeah i think we're going to get some good stuff guys i have faith i have faith i have faith i have i have faith if they're going to pull back and not dump so much on us all at once you can you can have all these characters but they all don't need a show where a movie you know what dump

Dump away, guys. Dump away. I'll watch them all. I am going through serious Marvel withdrawal right now. See what I'm saying, Phil? I just, I never know what this is going. All right. You're not excited for Aquaman too?

Because I am. I don't watch those. I heard Jason Mamo was drunk on set. Oh, really? I'm interested to see this. That's funny. So did they have to reshoot a bunch of shit for Amber Hurd? No, they just cut some of her scenes short.

Oh, okay. From what I heard, she's hardly in the movie. I'll bet fucking Captain Jack Sparrow runs her through. I'll bet she jumped up onto the fucking step. Captain Jack Sparrow pulls out his sword and goes, Alas, yeho! Did you shit in me, Jen? That would be awesome, actually.

I would totally watch that. I'd go see the movie just for that. Disney could do it, right? No, no. See, never mind. God. Warner Brothers. All right.

Mix them in studios. You were really getting me excited there for a minute, Brian. No, you got yourself excited. Did you remember in the Alka Man in DC? Warner Brothers. All right. Listener feedback. Hey.

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The whore returns. Well, his three picks are the initiation from 1984. I'm pretty sure. although we'll have some discussion on that as to whether or not we watch the right movie. Holy Spider and Candyland. We'll start with the initiation from 1984. An amnesiac sorority member who has been plagued by a recurring nightmare is also stalked alongside other co-eds by a killer in a deserted department store where they're competing in a hazing ritual.

Directors are Larry Stewart and Peter Crane. A writer is Charles Pratt Jr., also known for all my children and the young and the restless. Before the initiation begins, the subjects are studied. Even their dreams are recorded. Begins, the testing areas are selected. The sorority house, the sanitarium, the empty shopping mall. And just before the initiation begins, a toast is required. And to being young, staying young, and dying young.

Each night shoot at the location would have to be done in 12-hour increments. Hmm. Okay. Okay. So the initiation, because there was a couple of different initiations out there. But this is definitely the one that Jeff Laramore picked. I believe he said 1984. Okay, 1984 it is. Lance, what did you think about it?

Well, we have reviewed this movie before. We've confirmed that. So we did The Exorcist twice, and now we're doing this one twice. But it's worth it, man. This was a fun little movie. So I couldn't figure out if this was supposed to be an 80s nerd comedy, like Revenge of the Nerds, or like Animal House or something like that. Or is this supposed to be a slasher?

I will let you know that my wife is the master of figuring movies out and she had this one figured out about halfway through, although there was a twist she didn't see. We don't do spoiler alert here, so I'm a little confused. At the end, was it twins? It was twins, right? Yes. But there was nothing to indicate that anywhere early in the movie. I thought that too.

I was like, well, they pulled that out. left field in the flashback you see the girl stabbing her oh and then the mother runs up or stabbing the the the father and okay so i'm getting confused you see the girl stabbing the the lover okay okay okay sure sure and then the father walks in and they fight and they catch he catches on fire and the mother runs and grabs a girl and runs out the room. I took it as there was two girls in the room. Oh!

Well, then you figured it out from the beginning, Brian, because I don't know. I caught the father and the lover at the beginning, but I didn't catch the other girl. So, okay, cool. Yeah, man, I mean, it was definitely a fun watch. You know, I mean, how much fun can you have inside of a shopping mall that looks like a four seasons

hotel. Yeah. Is that place still around? It is. I don't remember seeing it. Yes, I googled it. Yes, I googled it. It's still there. Yeah?

Yes, it is. It's still there. I was going to ask you guys, because I would like to go see this shopping mall that looks like a fancy hotel with multiple floors. Like 10 stories high. Like, how many floors do you need?

It's like the Gallup. but on steroids, right? Yeah. So the one part of this movie that got me, Brian, thinking about you and your stupid people alert was the... Well, there were several. But the part where the one that really stuck out to me was the one where... So, okay, we've got literally, as you guys said, 10 stories of individual small stores

that have lots of cubby holes and hidey holes and places to hide behind... clothing and whatnot. And once they know the killers out there and coming after them, she's like, hey, I've got an idea. So we already know the security yard's been murdered. So there's no one in the, in the entire mall to provide security. Why don't you go hide in the middle of the fucking mall in the dead center in the brightly lit security desk and see what happens?

Yeah, that's the ticket. Yeah, there was a lot of that stuff. I did enjoy the early scenes, like the costume party. That was like B-movie Schlock, like 80s, you know, fun time stuff. They had the dancing montage. The dancing montage. The dude dressed up as a full-sized penis. It was pretty funny.

That was a pretty damn good costume, I have to admit. Yeah, I mean, it was a fun movie. There was a lot to like about it. You know, you've got the, I can guarantee you guys that there's no way that this film did not influence a particular season of American horror story. Of course, I'm talking about asylum. Because I don't know about you guys, but I have had, you know, visits to state hospitals because I've had family members that I've had to visit before. and I can assure you that there's not people like doing this in unison and you're going, oh, okay, but you don't have the, you don't have the groundskeeper guy leading it.

That's why. Who you come to find out is also a patient that make one of the patients get to be the groundskeeper? Okay, Philip, you can speak to that because you worked in a prison. And they do put those guys to work, right? Yeah, so when they called him a trustee, I guess maybe he was a trustee at the hospital. I assumed trustee from like a prison. Right. But yeah, maybe he was a patient and was just like a trustee.

That makes sense. Give him sharp objects to work with? Maybe not just so much. It's a lot of trust in that trustee. Yeah. I don't know, man. How does that hearing look? He walks in the room and you're like, oh, no.

Don't trust you. Sorry, buddy. It was a fun movie. I like the fact that they had it in very distinct acts. I like the fact that you started out at the, you know, the sorority house. You know, you definitely got your tit shots. They definitely did not shave down there in the 80s. That's for sure. And, you know, you got the mall scenes at the end.

So not a lot of bad things to say about this movie. It was kind of a fun watch. I don't know if I can remember what I gave it the first time I watched it, but it's definitely not a movie that I hated. It was fun to watch. All right. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I had fun with this.

I think I had fun with this last time. Of course, you know, what's her name, Daphne Zuniga? Princess Vespa. The other recognizable guy saw was Clue Gallagher from Return of the Living Dead. He was the guy to own the medical supply shop. Okay. Yeah, and it was the dad in this one, right? Well, come to find out it was not the dad.

Or well, the dad. The new dad. Yes, yes. I liked the little twist they threw in there with the, with the, being the twins and stuff like that. I thought the kills were pretty decent. You had a lot of goofy characters. A lot of the, a lot of the guys other than the doctor was. fucking hella goofy.

Like that one guy that just wanted to fuck throughout the whole movie. They were a bunch of stupid teenage kids, man. Well, yeah. I'm talking about the main guy. I think he went to the costume party dressed. I don't know if he was a S&M guy or...

Or like a barbarian or something? Gladiator. Barbarian, gladiator. Extra from Road Warrior or something. I don't know. And he probably weighed about 83 pounds dripping wet, right? Yeah.

But I think, I felt like they did a good job of making us think it was the real father the whole time. And not even ever throughout the movie that you would even think that it was a twin. So that definitely made it a good twist. Because if you didn't think it was the father, you thought it was her. Well, I thought for sure after that one scene where she, you know, hugged the guy ran up to hug her and she stabbed him. I thought, okay, this is a split personality thing, especially with all the mirrors, you know, the imagery of the mirrors throughout the movie. But, Brian, if you're saying that they did kind of give us a clue and that flashback, I missed it. Well, no, they didn't, that's just how I justified it.

Okay. That they, her, her memories coming back was not of her stabbing someone. it was her seeing her sister stabs. Ah, so it was like from a first person. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. So it's a little bit more clever then than even I thought it was at the end

because I thought that was kind of a neat twist. Yeah. So, it would have been nice to have maybe another clue somewhere along the way, but. Yeah. Then they would have given it away. Right.

Yeah. We can't have that. Overall, I had fun with it. It's a good rewatch. And talking about it. physical media i i will be picking up this is on blue ray so it will be added to the collection oh nice i'm surprised you don't already have it no shit i thought you had three copies i totally forgot we talked about this movie before uh-huh i did too it didn't click until i looked up i was like

hey wait a minute i know that girl you know i looked her up and i was like oh that's princess vespma yeah i'm watching a movie and i'm like oh wait i've seen this i'm watching a movie and i'm thinking i'm just figuring stuff out and then when the twist happens. I'm like, did we do this movie before? And I had to be allowed my little list. What got me was the minute they showed the shopping mall, and I'm like, okay. Yeah.

Ah, shit, here we go again. Double reviewing the same movie, but that's okay. Well, and it sort of takes them a minute to get to that whole shopping mall scene. Because that's, I think that's where, that's when I picked it up. Because I had a little inkling. I'm like, have I seen this movie before? Nah, I don't think I remember this. And then when they got to the mall, I was like, oh, we definitely watched this.

Oh, yeah. And now I'm remembering, I think we did that episode with Marcy and Bede. Oh, really? I think it was a year-in-horror episode. I think it was a year-in-horror episode. Yeah, the year-in-horror 84, right? That's kind of what I was thinking, too, is that it was one of those, which we're about to get to re-uploading within the next year, hopefully.

whenever I have time and people re-uploads. So listen to that listen to this one and then if you want to see our probably completely different views on the film. Go listen to the other review. Yeah, one of us will give it an eight

this time and we go back and listen they gave it a two type thing, right? That's a pretty good possibility. It happens. It happens. But yeah, I had a lot of fun with this one too. and it's weird that I didn't really remember watching it until halfway through it I mean there's a bunch of movies like that we watch a lot of movies but sure you know obviously it's not super memorable

yeah and sometimes a slasher movie is just a slasher movie yeah especially a slasher movie from the 80s in a mall I mean at least a half a dozen of those top of the mall etc right I did like that he was was trying to mix it up. It wasn't just stabby, stabby. Yeah. True. Yeah. There was an arrow. There was a fucking the hell was that the guy

that would, when he finally had sex with the quote unquote virgin until we heard your sad, sad story. Yeah, when the movie got super dark. Yeah, that was fucking dark. I was blessed when she was 12. I was like, bringing me down

movie. Yeah. Especially since that had no relation to anything else the plot. Well, it is. Times have changed. Because back then you get made fun of being

a virgin. Now you get made fun of what are the young people say? How many bodies you have? Oh, I haven't heard that one yet. But I'm sure I will. You dang kids in your body counts. And all your anal sex, I don't want to hear about

it. Aye. This is why I always, this is why I was always hoping that my grand, that at least one of my granddaughters would be lesbian, so I wouldn't have to worry about a pregnancy. They're still hope for them yet. They're young. Yes, I know.

That's true. They're still exploring. They're still exploring. They still got college to go through. Right. that's when all the lesbians come out warriors come out and play

none of this movie though there was a lot of casual walking around nude jumping in showers I guess they had a system because no one ever turned off to showers they would just walk out and somebody would walk right in oh my god

Is that not how that goes? I would like to think. Conserve water, right? All right. So scores on this one. Lance, what do you think? Six. No, six.

Oh, I thought you were going to get an eight. No, come on. It's fun, man. I liked it more than I didn't. It was no masterpiece, man. Sorry, Jeff. And go back at list of our other show. Maybe I gave it an eight then, but,

I mean, it was fun as hell. It was definitely fun. But come on, guys. This was no masterpiece. It was a great movie to watch. I love the twist ending. I almost feel guilty giving it only a six, since Brian did explain, you know,

if you just figured out when she got hooked up to that little dream monitor, that when she was dreaming, that she did see the other person doing it, not her. Yeah, you know, maybe that would have added to my score, but I liked it more than I didn't, Jeff. I liked it more than I didn't.

Fair enough. Brian, what do you think? I'm going to go a little bit higher. I'm going to give it a seven. I thought it was a fun 80s slasher movie with a little bit of humor in there. Like I said, it did get dark. I thought it was a fucking comedy halfway through, man. Yeah, but that was mostly the frat guys were.

completely crazy movie. I think the only serious men in the were the parental figures or the one doctor who was not he wasn't even a doctor.

He was a teacher's aide or something. But the security guard was creepy mustache. Oh, he was fucking hilarious, man. He had the country music going.

He was drinking the generic beer listening to Hank Williams Jr. It's just okay. six and a half, God damn it. Just for the fucking security guard, this stupid mustache and his generic beer.

And God damn it, it was definitely Texas. There is no doubt that a lot of these extras that they picked were definitely. Those were Texas accents. So, you know what? Just for the fact that the director took the time to make it as realistic as possible as far as the act. You know what? I honestly thought that the Sawyer family was going to show up with a bowl of chili.

at some point. That's how Texas this movie was. So six and a half. Six and a half. I thought you had to go out to an eight. You know what? I'll go seven and a half just for Texas. There you go. There you go. They were filming at a Dallas shopping center, but they kept reference in Houston. And he was wearing a University of Texas T-shirt, which is located in Austin. Yeah. So a quick geography lesson for anyone who doesn't live in Texas. They're trying to cover some ground in this movie. I'm going to go, well, shit, I was going to be right in the middle.

I'm going to give it a six and a half also. Nice. All right, cool. We all liked it more than we didn't. Yeah, I think it was a typical slasher movie, but they had a cool twist that you kind of didn't see coming. And I like the schlucky comedy that they threw in there. I thought that kind of made it unique. And what's a sudden, Daphne Zuniga?

if I'm pronouncing the Princess Vespas. She's pretty good in it. Yeah. I know she was in a lot of, I don't know a lot, but she was in quite a few horror movies around this time. So it kind of makes me want to go check out other ones she was in. Yeah, she's got some talent, man. She's not a bad actress.

All right. So the initiation. Next one, move on to Holy Spider, 2021. A journalist dissent. into the dark underbelly of the Iranian holy city of Masad, as she investigates the serial killings of sex workers by the so-called spider killer, who believes he is cleansing the streets of sinners.

Director is Ali Abasi, also known for the TV show The Last of Us. Writers, Ali Abasi, Afshin, Kamran Bahrami. I don't know that I'm Godine, they're saying, what are you? What's the same, I just,

I've got to just, I'm six, seven months don't know, so I'm like, so I'm gonna

find out of kind of made out of kind of kind of that makes sense. Brian,

what do you think about Holy Spider? I have never seen this, I've heard of it, I've seen it, sorry,

that's my dog. I've seen, I've seen, I've seen the movie I think pop up here and there on different streaming platform.

but never was really interested in watching it because I don't think I ever knew what the movie really was Yeah So going into this I knew nothing about it I didn't know I didn't read a synopsis anything And yeah I enjoyed it because at times it was The story was kind of straightforward as to Who the killer was we didn't have to go through this whole mystery of that

And then other times it was wasn't as straightforward, it kept me guessing, like, when the movie started, I thought the main girl in the beginning... Uh-oh. We might lose Lance. Sorry, guys. Had to grab a Scooby snack for this one. I was saying, Lance, I was saying basically how there was times when the movie didn't, I didn't have to guess that it was pretty straightforward, like, with who the killer was and what his motivations. was but then other times like when the movie started i thought this was the main girl we were

going to follow through the movie yeah me too you're talking about the detective no no the girl at the very beginning yeah oh yeah they did the scream thing a little bit they kind of they kind of make you get invested in her life to show you she's getting ready to go out on the street she's you know getting high when she's getting dressed you see bruises all over her by you see she has a kid you get introduced to all these things about her and then she gets murdered like 10 minutes into the movie and then

you're okay this is not who we're following right and then you get introduced to who we're actually following and then I thought she did a phenomenal job throughout the movie playing this character which I think this was based off true events that happened around a certain time

a few years ago that's a creepy thought and just her investigation and having to deal with, you know, being a woman and, you know, not being taken seriously. And then when the guy, and then what kind of just blew me away when the guy got caught, he was not afraid at all for what he believed in what he did. And he had people supporting him. And then what blew me away even more is how delusional this guy was that he's actually. having conversations that aren't really happening like that whole jail scene at the end when he thought the the the higher-ups were coming in and telling him this look man this is

how we're going to break you out and we're going to have a car waiting for you and then it cuts to the scene of him holding his hand out like he's shaking someone's hand but there's nobody there right and I thought that scene was just crazy to where they're about to hang him and he's like where's the car what's going on and everybody we don't know what you're talking. And I really thought it was, I really thought it was going that way because when the reporter was like, he was supposed to get his hundred

lashes. Right. And they went in and they faked that whole thing and I'm like, okay, they're really about to break him out and that's not how it went. And I just thought this was a phenomenal movie from start to finish. I do need to watch it again

because like I said, many times I kind of get some of the dialogue lost in subtitles because I'm Yeah. What's going on and not looking down below. So this is a movie I'd definitely check out again. I thought it was a great pick. Yeah.

Probably more thriller than horror. Crime mystery. Well, I mean, it's kind of like seven or something to the lambs, you know? It's in that territory, right? That makes sense. Like crime thriller. But like true life stuff, which is cool. Yeah, I, it's from our friends.

over the nightmare junkhead podcast they like to use the word horror adjacent there was some horrific things going on in here and he's a

he's a serial killer you know so and he had quite a fucking body count huh no shit see yeah he said

16 well yeah halfway through the movie it was already up to 10 what do you say 16 sinners but it could have been 17 but the coward

got away or something like that. Yeah, I was waiting to see. Oh, that was her. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Lance, what did you think? Yeah, I'm with Brian, man. I mean, this was, this was a well-made movie. It was, man, you talk about dark, dirty, and gritty, right? I mean, this was, and it's kind of, it's kind of bizarre because, I don't know, there were a lot of scenes like the one where she was in the, the restaurant, and she offered to buy the one girl a sandwich, because she was trying to, um, she was trying to, to learn more from the ladies of the street because someone had suggested earlier, you know, why don't you pick one of them to kind of like act as a, what was the word they used?

Again, we do with some, yeah, like a decoy to kind of, you know, try to lure this guy in or whatever. And then they like also had some scenes I noticed where it was kind of like a fake out. Like they had her looking around trying to like looking at the city streets. and then you see a guy go by on a motorcycle, but it was a totally different guy. Yeah. You know, and then, you know, the guy, it's just bizarre. It's like all these serial killers, they have a family, and they're like so sweet to the family, you know. But you did notice when that kid hit him in the head with a soccer ball.

I thought that little kid was about to get strangle. Yeah. The way he was moving, he would have never caught that kid. Yeah. That's true. So I'm going to say this. A lot of people say, what's that right? Real quick question.

Was that not his wife? Because they didn't live together, did they? She was a lot hotter than the horrors. That's for damn sure. They were all like fucking answer. I was just confused because it seemed like the wife and kids were never home. Maybe that was part of his, you know, narrator. Because it kind of seemed like there was something going on because maybe I'm just looking more

into it, but like when he goes to her families that seem like he goes to her parents' house for dinner, the father clearly does not like him because he can't take his eyes off him. And I wonder if it's because of their living arrangements. Maybe. Because it just kind of felt

like maybe the kids came around when she had to go to work or something. Okay, so this plays into what the point I was going to make was that like, okay, so really, like, even though it's a totally different culture than America.

It's kind of like almost like we all do things the same way. Like you have the sandwich shop that the hookers are coming into. And as much as the society, that particular society in general, we could go on further. And I do not want to turn this into a political podcast. But at least women have gained some rights here that they haven't in countries like this. And there's a lot of sense. similarities, right? I mean, people are going to sin. People are going to enjoy the things they're going to enjoy, whether it be, you know, opium, alcohol, hookers, whatever, and they're always going to try to hide it, right? So they're going to like, I've got this perfect family and I'm this super religious person and yet I fucking kill people. You know, it's like the similarities, I think, are much closer than the differences are, like from one culture to the other. But I do think it's kind of interesting. in that I don't know if it's true, but I heard a rumor that, like, did you mention it in trivia?

Is that where I read it, Philip, that they had to change the lead actress because the first one was afraid. Yeah, and I mean, that's bullshit, dude. I mean, oh, man, I don't know what, got killed over there for that? That's a big deal. Like, yeah, there was somebody who got killed by the morality police. And I noticed they mentioned that a couple of times. So yeah, it's like In the scene when she got to the hotel in the beginning Some of her hair was out And he was like, cover your hair And then he brought up the morality police

And she was just like That's why I liked her character Because she was just like basically Cover my hair Shut the fuck out, get my room Oh yeah She was like a fucking hardboiled detective She was a great care

And they were giving her the business Until she was like Hey, I'm a journalist and they were like, oh, you know what? We got your room ready. Yeah, right. Yeah, imagine that. He did the fake typing on the keyboard.

We've all seen that before. Kind of like Tim Curry and Home Alone too, right? Yeah. Where he looks like the Grinch. Yeah, no, this was a really good movie. Just fucking dark and dingy and beautifully filmed. I mean, it was incredibly well shot. And you know where it continued to.

get dark when she watched that video of her interviewing his son and he was like people asked him I'm going to continue my father's work and he was just like wait and see wow boy if that doesn't keep him at night

nothing well he demonstrated how his father killed the women using his little sister yeah that was creepy as hell and then it well the fact that everybody was like yeah he was doing a good thing was pretty fucking weird. The wife was all for it because he was cleansing.

Cleaning up the streets, right? The cops will be happy with it because you're keeping the street clean. They don't give a damn. Yeah, I mean, this does have a lot to say about that culture and how repressive it is. But I don't know. I was kind of looking at it as a mirror to our society here because, you know, in some ways, like we, you know, women have got a lot more rights here and stuff like that. But in some ways, they're kind of, you know, treated the same way. Like, when's the last time we had a female president? I really need to shut up. I don't want to go on political tangents here. Well, if you're a sex worker, I support you.

I know, I've known a couple. And that's what you choose to do. And you're not hurting nobody. You're hurting yourself. And it's your body. All right. I'm not going to say anything. Yeah, let's not go there.

Why did he choke all of them with the scarf or whatever? I didn't pick up on that. Was that just his modus operandi or what? Yeah, I think it was just his thing. Okay. Well, because one of them tried to like, I don't know, he didn't want one of them to touch him or something. Right.

The one that called him fuzzy beer? Yeah. So I thought that one was going to get away because she was showing her stuff to him. he was just like, ah, and never go after the big ones again. Yeah, I was about to say,

she might could actually kick his ass. He kind of got lucky on that one, but yeah, yeah, this was a good pick, man. This was, it's a lot to think about. And I'm with you,

Ryan. This one's worth a rewatch for sure. It's kind of, kind of, you know, challenging for us sometimes to keep up with the subtitles, especially when it's that different.

of a society. So if I'm watching a movie and maybe it's just because I know quite a bit of Spanish and some of that's because of my family. But if I'm watching a movie in Spanish, sometimes I can just watch the movie and just kind of hear the words. And even though

every third or fourth word I don't understand, I catch enough of it that I kind of know exactly what's going on. But with this one, like the language is so different from what we're used to in the Western world. You know, like if it's a European language or Spanish or something like that, I think it's a lot easier for us to relate to.

But this particular movie, I just kind of, I did have that problem with that myopia where I kept having to look at the subtitles. And there were, there was a lot of, there was a lot of talking in this movie. This movie could have, this movie could have been in English with English subtitles and I still would have looked at it. Yeah, and they were talking fast, too. I can't, I can't help it. I just, even if I don't need the subtitles, I'm still, my eyes still, what are these words down here flashing? Yeah. Yeah, it's, boy, man, between this one and the next movie we're going to talk about, there's definitely some common themes.

Yeah. A lot of, that's why I want to. Yeah, that's why I want to know where did the first movie come from. Yeah. Just to give us a, maybe we should. should have watched it in the middle to be like the sorbet. The calic cleanser. I watched it last. Did you? Yeah. And I was like,

is this the right movie? I think we're all talking about the same movies. So I think it was the right one. Yeah, no, I agree with what you guys said, man. It was, it was very gritty and dirty. A really cool, like, uh, sort of a crime drama, except you knew who done it from the beginning. and but which I thought kind of added to it. It was just a, it was a cool, like, almost documentary style film. Yeah, that's true, man. A lot of, yeah, it looked very realistic in certain parts, didn't it?

Like, too realistic. Yeah, and it had some, definitely some creepy moments towards the end with a kid who was going to possibly carry on his father's work. The family tradition. Yeah. It was a trip, man. And I never would have watched this movie otherwise. Yeah, I never even heard of it.

I never even heard of it, honestly. All right. Brian, what do you think about scores? 8 out of 10. I thought it was a solid story, solid acting. I was invested in the characters. I was invested to see if she would get closer to catching him. and then I was invested in him to see if he was going to get caught because he,

as ruthless of a killer he was, he was very fucking sloppy with the way he did everything. Was that on purpose, though, to an extent maybe? Some of it. Did he want to get caught, maybe? I don't think he wanted to get caught because when she got away, when she became the decoy, and she went to his house and she ended up having an altercation with him and getting away. He curled up in a little fetus and cried on his bed because he knew he fucked up and it was done.

God was going to punish him, right? But I think as he started to go through the trial and people were laughing at his jokes and kind of cheering him, his confidence kind of grew. He was like, oh, I got the support of the people. Nothing's going to happen to me. And then his whole delusional meeting with everybody of how. he's going to escape or not even escape, they're just going to let him out and take him

away in a car to free them. Yeah, his people. Kind of Joker-esque. Yeah, and I really... Yeah, I can see that. And the movie had me going. I was, especially, like I said,

when they did the fake 100 lashes and they were just beating the wall and he was just like, ah, ah! I was like, they're really letting this fucking guy go. And then they were like, nope, you're going to put this rope around your neck. Right. All right.

Lance, what do you think? So there's this old saying that, well, I don't know how old it is, but there's a saying that people will say like when something fucked up happens, and then they turn around and say, well, this is why we're not allowed to have nice things, you know, like when somebody makes a mass after a party or something like that.

To me, this movie is telling me, well, this is why we shouldn't be allowed to have religion. Now that's going to get some clicks. I probably shouldn't have said it that way, but God damn it, this guy was a fucking religious nut. And this religious zealcy, it does lead to a lot of problems.

And I think the filmmaker is aware of that. I'm kind of surprised this film was able to be made. And I'm not too shocked about that trivia that they were worried. The one woman wouldn't do the part because she was worried there'd be, you know, backlash. But, man, anytime you think, and yeah, America has its faults and we're fucked up and we have a lot of problems. But, God damn it, man, we're not this repressive of a society. Yeah, I've always said, if you really think America's that racist, visit literally anywhere else. All right, I'm going to tell you guys a quick story.

And I don't know if it's true or not, but it was told to me by a guy that I used to work for it. and he used to work in the oil and gas industry, and he went to Saudi Arabia. And, of course, you know, you got to realize this was about 20 years ago, probably, that I heard this. But he said, so I was out there one time, Lance, and he said, I actually literally saw a guy that was driving a pickup truck. And so, you know, you've got the bed of the truck. And then ideally, you've got two chairs in the front, right? A chair for the driver, a chair for the passenger. He said, this guy had taken the passenger chair out, and he had his donkey in the passenger area sitting inside the truck.

You know where I'm going here? And he said, and he had a woman in a burqa sitting in the back of the fucking truck. Oh. Now that's fucked up. Yeah, a little bit. So anyway, yeah, no, this was a good movie. This was, first of all, it shows you that no matter where you are in the world, we all have the same desires, we all have the same sins, we all have the same shortcomings.

You know, it's very, very, very difficult to envision a world where we can actually have a society where human beings treat each other as equals. But, man, this took it to the nth degree. This guy was a fucker. so and yeah quite a body count like you guys were talking about the sun that's a lot of poisoning of the well there so this was a tough one man this was rough to get through but that's why that's why I have to give this one a 7.75 this isn't quite up there with like what I would consider the crem de la crem

of 2020 movies like it would this would not displace any of my top 10 but it might have been an honorable mention you know, if we had seen it last year. So, yeah, good movie. It's hard to watch, man. It's a tough one. Random observation. They drink a lot of Fanta in that country.

Yes, they do. Yellow Fanta. Remember the guy ordered yellow Fanta? Or maybe that was a little problem where he didn't quite translate it the right way. No, they were a sponsor. They were ordered different flavors of Fanta throughout the movie. It's like when you watch it. a movie and there's Pepsi everywhere.

You're like, all right, well, we know who paid for this one. Hexy, hexy. Yeah, I'm going to go, I'm going to give it a solid seven. I think it was definitely worth a watch. I probably won't watch it again. It's not the kind of movie you want to rewatch a bunch of times. It's rough, man. It's rough.

But, but yeah, very, very well made. I thought the lead actress did a hell of the job. And, man, good movie. Yeah, good pick, Jeff, thanks. Yeah. All right, we'll move on to Candyland, 2023. Didn't even know this movie existed. I did, because I've heard a lot of buzz about this movie.

I've heard at least three or four podcasters given accolades to this, so let's see how it goes. A seemingly naive and devout young woman navigate. I know what it is you do. There is still time for you. you. We'll show you the way to the kingdom of heaven. Repent. Or you will be left for the final cleansing. What are you doing back here? Are you okay?

Who's this? She's from that weirdo cold. I think they're going to leave for heaven before the rest of us. Was that your mother? Yeah. So what did you think about Candy Land. I didn't know what to expect. I, like I said, this movie was really Oh, and I guess we're going to do a spoiler alert on this one, right, since it's a 20-23. Okay, so spoiler-free. I really didn't know exactly what to expect.

I had an idea. I had no idea, though, that they were going to introduce yet again. Here we go talking about religion and the dangers and the poisons of religion. There's a theme going tonight for sure. But, yeah, I would say that this is one of those. first of all, I definitely did not recognize William Baldwin. Did you, Brian? Yeah, I mean, I never know which Baldwin it is, but I was like, that's definitely a Baldwin.

All right, so there's a movie that came out, I don't know, five or six years ago, the Florida Project. Have you guys seen that one? No. It sounds familiar? You should check it out. Does it have the green gob. Willemdafone?

Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, Willemdafone. I think he actually won. Didn't he win best supporting actor for his role in it? I think he did. So, Philip, I'm talking about that movie

The Florida Project. Lots and lots and lots of similarities to that movie with this one for me. Because it's like a real underbelly type movie. Like, for example, okay, so let's say that you're driving

cross-country. and you stop at a gas station to fill up or whatever and go in and grab some snacks, use the bathroom. And you kind of see these sketchy people and you're like, I know there's a story there, you know, but you don't want to dig too deep, right? So this is that story that you see

and you don't want to acknowledge or dig too deep, right? So there's actually people that live this way and it was a pretty interesting way to present it. I thought it was a great twist and we're not into spoilers yet. I think we're going to do the alert, so I won't say too much, but there was definitely the interesting twist

that, you know, there was the, you know, the male sex worker. Just like thinking, okay, this is all going to be like, you know, female hookers or whatever, but you've got the male character there. Yeah, and interestingly enough, he's not gay. He just happens to make money doing it, so he kind of does it.

Like, that just kind of shows you how the desperate of people and how people just likes to party. Well, you know, people will do what they have to do to survive, right? That was his line, yeah. Yeah, people are just kind of living on the fringes like this. And I think it's 20 bucks is 20 bucks. I think it was a good decision to use mostly relatively unknown people in this. So it almost kind of felt like you guys said, the last one almost like a real life thing or a documentary.

I thought I thought this one captured that pretty well also Yeah definitely did not recognize William Baldwin for like the first 30 minutes until I realized Wait a minute, that's a Baldwin brother Yeah, I knew it was one of them Yeah, but man it was I Did it did it did a pretty good job of like you know, this is just some you know random dude and then I'm like wait, he looks really familiar Yeah, and then when you bring the other character in and

and here we go in talking about religion, Philip, and the dangers therein and taking it too far. This is so much a religion or a cult. That's a good point. That's a good point. So I'm going to, without, I don't want to go into spoilers, so I'm just going to leave it on.

This was a pretty brave movie to make. I mean, you know, something like this, it's like, it's definitely not a Five Nights at Freddy's that you know is going to have 16 billion streams on Peacock and, you know, $200 million on opening hour and stuff like that. This is just, you know, like a nice little indie, dirty, filthy movie. And yeah, I definitely enjoyed the fact that they did that. And as the kids like to say, they went there.

So, yeah, it's a good movie. I enjoyed it. All right. Brian, what did you think? Hold on. I was trying to see which Baldwin is it. No, I thought this was the Bio Dome, Baldwin. This is backdraft. Backdraft Baldwin. Biodrome Baldwin. They all kind of, I mean, they're, whenever younger, they kind of, you kind of can tell the difference. You can tell they related, but you can tell the difference. Now that they got older, they just, like, grew into the same person. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this isn't, this isn't the, this isn't the can.

in the hat, Baldwin. Which one was that? Alec. Oh. Although for a second, I was like, that's not Alec Baldwin. Oh, it's one of the other ones. Okay, so they got you, huh? For a second.

This is my second time seeing this movie. I've seen it earlier this year, and I liked it then, and I still like it now. I think it's a great movie. It's shot well. It kind of had an old-school kind of grittiness to it. it, especially with the, when the credits were rolling and the title card came up, it kind of had that old school font to it. Kind of like a grind house type thing?

Yeah. I agree, Lance. The 90s, and they stuck it. Yeah. I agree with you, Lance. I like that they used relatively unknown, because I didn't, other than, I think I may be seen the one guy, Levi and something before, but the only one off the top of my head, I can say that I knew was William Baldwin.

But what about the madam? She's been in something, right? The madam. I don't know. Is that not the right truck stop terminology? No, I do. I think that is the right terminology. She's been in.

She looked familiar. She was an American, she was an American psycho and she was in that show the L word. I never seen that. Never saw that. Okay. They weren't talking about love. They were talking about labias. Yes.

I don't know if I pronounced that correctly, but okay. But I enjoyed the whole religious cult aspect into mixing it in with these sex worker, lot lizards. Because, you know, that's what they call themselves a lot lizards in this movie. So, sure. Don't anybody get mad. That's what I've always heard of them. called yeah and i like that you kind of got it you kind of got to peek into this world and how they broke down how they how they do things the different areas of the truck stop they work at the little

signals code words oh yeah they did get into a lot of that didn't they yeah the tap in the foot underneath the bathroom stall wasn't there i'm pretty sure there was a politician somewhere they got yeah that that's that scene was crazy because he was like i could tell by the way they walk in casual or something about the way they walk and got to piss if they come running and they got to take a shit. But if they come in casually, I just tap my foot

and then they tap back. There was some radio guy that did like a morning radio host after that politician thing happened. He did a little parody song of this, tap three times on the floor if you want me.

All right. I know that's corny. It was funny. listening to it though sorry yeah forgot what I was going to say now oh the the main girl trying to look her up

the religious cult girl oh her right Remy Olivia La Cardo I thought she did a fantastic job yeah for sure because I got the religious kind of the religiousness of her character

but then it it kind of just switched and you saw that craziness come out. I got to cleanse these people. Are you about to talk about her teeth? No, her eyes, man. I've got some seriously dark circles.

She looks like she's using heroin the whole time. I'm like, you're not... Probably was. Well, probably was. We'll get into that in spoilers, but I thought there was something else wrong with her. Yeah. She brings up about a family member of hers.

Okay. Well, that probably's where she got. to you. Right. But I just like how they introduce her character because the same way with Holy Spider is when I said the

guy, you get introduced to the main girl and you're not sure if she's who you're going to follow, who you're not going to follow. You kind of think she's the killer but then you kind of think she's not the killer. Okay. And you don't know where the movie's going with it.

Don't give too much of way yet, Ryan? I won't. And I thought it was just well-acted, and then we got some, we got a lot of blood in here. Yeah. And if people are not comfortable and you want to watch the movie based off our review, there is some rape that happens in this movie, and it's kind of disturbing. Yeah, it's a pretty gritty movie, man. And it lets you know that in the first 10 minutes, because I turned it on. Yeah. And like my kid was playing video games in the background and like I had to fast forward through a scene real quick at the very beginning. And then another scene popped up and I was like, all right, maybe I was not doing this.

Basically what Phil's talking about is you get to see one of the workers make her rounds within the first 10 minutes of the movie. And they're pretty much showing everything. Sure. Yeah, full front of the first 10 minutes. I mean, yeah, that's the kind of movie we're in for here, right? And not like in a sexy way. It's not a sexy time. But one of the things that

My wife. One of the things that kind of scares me in real life is cults, religious fanatics. Oh, we love cult horror, don't we, Philip? I thought we were going to start one. We were on mushrooms and we had that conversation, so that's all happened. But we'll get more to the. him in the second but yeah I had a great time watching this movie uh yeah man it me too it at first I mean it sort of hit you in the face with it in that first 10 minutes like I was

saying but uh mm-hmm it kind of let you know what kind of movie this is going to be and I didn't think I was going to be into it I was like all right that's that's too much I don't need all that shit in my movie sure but the further I got into it the more connected I got to these characters and I guess I can't really give too much away but I like the twists and turns of the movies. I didn't see it coming and they really stuck the landing in this one at a good ending. I liked it man. It was a really good movie. Very well acted.

That Levi guy knocked it out of the park. He did it really well. I got love What were they? Snowballs. Yeah. Oh! I guess I hadn't quite put that together in my head before, but

I love their truck stop snacks, didn't they? All right. So you guys want to go on a, well, I guess we'll do scores before spoilers. Yeah. Lance, what do you think? It's an eight. It's in the running.

So, um, okay. Yeah, I'm, I'm glad that, that I watch this. I'm not, it, it's not one of those movies that I want to, like, have a party and have a bunch of people over and say, hey, no, probably not. Let's check out. I got a new movie for you guys to watch. We're going to play a game called How Uncomfortable can we make everybody in the run. Oh, speaking of uncomfortable, okay? So, you know how they made the Barbie movie and the battleship movie and all these movies based on games and toys and shit like that? There's actually a Candy Land game or movie coming out based on the game. I don't think it's going to be the same thing.

No, probably not. And I'm shocked that they didn't get sued. And maybe they did. Maybe they are. I don't know. But, yeah. Maybe it's the way they wrote Candyland. Isn't the game like one word?

I think you're right. I think that's it, Brian. I think that's how they got around. Just the little loopholes. Loopholes are worth their way to go, man. But this is a great, gritty, dirty, indie movie with a huge twist of a character that you think is going to be doing one thing and ends up doing something totally different. And, yes, I love the cult aspect. So, yeah, it's an 8 on 10.

It's a good movie. All right, Brian. Yeah, I'm going to go with the 8. I like to just as much as Holy Spider. There are similar themes, but two different tones in the movies. Holy Spider kind of seemed a little bit more realistic to me. You think so? I thought this was uncomfortably realistic.

Yeah, I mean, if you had to tell me I had to pick a movie what I thought was going to happen before the other movie, I would go with Holy Spider. Well, yeah, I mean, one of them was based on real things. and the other one gets obviously a little movie. But I still enjoy it the same, so I have to give it an 8 as well. I'm going to go a little higher. I'm going to give it an 8.5. Nice.

Yeah, like I started this movie not really expecting to enjoy it, and then it grew on me a lot. And I was like, wow, that was a really good movie. So take that for what it's worth. It's worth watching. It's kind of haunting, isn't it? Yeah. it's kind of one of those there but by the grace of god go i like could you imagine one of your children or grandchildren ending up like this i mean no that would not be okay with me

it yeah it's some rough stuff man rough stuff i support sex workers too as long as there's somewhere else like i said you go in and get your snacks at the gas station and look the other way it's kind of when some crazy fucking dude comes out trying to wash your windshield and you're like looking into this direction right but like to the nth degree so yeah it can make you uncomfortable like getting your windshield washed that's kind of uncomfortable too actually i don't mind i don't ever wash my windows the crazy the crazy homeless guy yeah the only problem with that brian is some dirty ass gutter water They're not always using the cleanest water.

I just feel bad because I don't carry cash or change. Yeah. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I give them like, or when I used to smoke, I would give him like cigarettes. And I never will forget this one dude. He was like begging for money and I gave him like three cigarettes. He was like, oh, thanks, man. Oh, awesome, dude.

Cool. You know, it's like the greatest thing ever, you know. I did a good thing then, Lance. I guess that was my, yeah, lung cancer was my gift to him. On that note, spoilers. Spoilers. I like, I couldn't really say nothing in the earlier review. You're talking about that badass crucifix?

Yeah, her transition from kind of a meek, religious, young, you know, not, not, naive girl. Yeah, at first I thought they were just like Mormon or something. Oh, I kind of got it early before the review. Okay. Yeah. I got it early before the review because he was talking about leaving. Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah, talking about when we leave. And it's just something just the way he was saying in and his body lane. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned This is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned

That reveal of her being the killer Just kind of It got me I didn't really The way she was playing it before And then she just switched When she killed the The priest

Who was going down on her When the guy that took his teeth out To go down on her yeah because not only did she kill him she broke his neck right right

wow golden eye style what a way to go and then she also not only did that but she she seemed to enjoy it so I kind of felt like there was something

other else wrong with her because it didn't come off like she was cleansing anything yeah and that made me think because she mentions that when when that guy, the

guy from the cult came back to talk to her, to have her come back and they brought up her mom saying she was sick and she was losing it. Did she have the same illness or mental illness possibly? I'm sure. Yeah. Sure. It was some kind of crazy. Or she was like, you guys were in a cult. I'm

getting the fuck out. That mental illness can't be. Well, no. If you guys, if you guys remember, she was there and they weren't down with what she was talking about she was talking about cleansing other people yeah okay and the guy was like oh he was like no we need to cleanse ourselves to to go to the next level and she was like no my mom me and my mom this is what we believe we believe in cleansing other people I was just like she's fucking out her mind sending people their next life huh for their own good they got to catch that comment reap the benefits of the next one and another thing that

really got me in this movie is nobody lived other than Billy Baldwin Yeah, right, right. Even the girl who you eventually, okay, this is the main girl, this is the final girl. She gets it in the end too.

Yeah. Yeah, it was a brutal movie, man, and there were some pretty damn good kills, you know? I mean, there's a lot to be said for this film. I'm kind of curious what the director's going to do next. I would, I would imagine that somebody is going to see this movie, especially with all the downtime they've got

between the writer's strike and now the actor strike. Somebody's going to see this movie and say, hmm, let's give them $20 million to see what they can do. John Swab. Not Suave like Rico? How old are you, Lance? Rico Suave. his little bandana

I do not recognize anything that he has coming up I have not heard of any of these movies well give it time man we'll check again in six months right yeah one of these days we might look back on this and like oh you guys remember when he did Candyland

that was where you got to start now is the time to interview this guy uh good point I think I'm gonna reach out Why not? He's got a crime thriller called King Ivory coming out next year. Okay.

He also has an action thriller called BRBS. Hmm. So it looks like he's just not in one genre movie. Then he has another movie called Land of Grace, which is an action crime drama. So. I thought you were going to say sex romp comedy. Well, and That's Candyland 2.

The writing in this one was pretty spectacular too, man. I love the way they wrapped it up. I love that nobody lived except William Baldwin, which was fine. I think... Yeah, he was kind of an outside observer.

I kind of wanted to know more about his character because he was fully into Levi. But Levi's not... Levi's not gay. So he was kind of refusing his advances. Well, business-wise, he would accept his advances. But anything else,

he was just kind of like, no, don't touch me. Which, that scene was kind of uncomfortable. The after Levi gets raped, and then Billy Baldwin still tries to, like he's asking a question and how, is your bottom okay? Yeah. And then later he makes it advance at him in the car

when they're disposing of a body. Yeah. I'm like, are you the fucking killer? Because you're giving us some really weird creepy pods. It was like that, uh, that axe murdering hitchhiker guy. Oh, yeah! Yeah, that's sort of what happened to him. Yeah, true.

Uh, you know, allegedly. Allegedly. I thought it was documented pretty much at this point, Phil. Yeah, but I'm not sure if anybody knows exactly what happened, but it seems like he probably, got taken advantage of by some old dude and then murdered him with an axe. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. All right. Oh, no, no. He didn't murder him with an axe. He just murdered him outright.

The guy he murdered with an axe was like in the middle of hurting somebody. Then he was a hero. That time. Who knows? Until he murdered the next guy. All right. Well, there's not, there's really not much more to spoil, right? we want everybody to see this movie yeah yeah definitely

for sure for sure worth it it is it is on 2B so it's free for everybody to watch cool and the last time I watched the TV movie guys no commercials I don't know how I pulled it off but yeah

apparently every once in a while you'll get a movie with no commercials I guess if they couldn't find a sponsor I think I remember seeing commercials in this one I'm gonna start doing this for like some of the the older release movies. I'm going to start telling people where they can stream them. I like that. Yeah.

The initiation is on 2B. Yep. Holy Spider is on Netflix. Yes, it is. Candy Land is also on 2B. There you go. So Jeff made it easy for all of us. So big shout out to Jeff Laramore, our number one guy.

So as far as you guys listening, we want to thank you all for listening to another episode of the horror returns. You know where to find us. We don't know if we're going to still be on Facebook. We don't know if we're going to try X. We don't know if we're going to try Twitter. Oh, wait, that's the same thing. We may even go back to

the Chineseman. What's it called? TikTok. I always wanted to try X. We are already on Twitter. Okay. Well, help us out, Brian. Tell our listeners where they can find us.

Facebook, Twitter slash X, Instagram, Tumblr, TikTok. Okay. I don't understand Tumblr, so I don't post as much on there. I didn't know it was still right. It's there, man. And we got to find a way to see if this Discord is worth getting into. So I am going to talk to some of our good friends at the Legion podcast, of which we have several really good friends with awesome podcast and ask them how that works.

Maybe we'll join the ranks of Discord. So, you know, again, as always, we definitely want to thank you for listening to us. Appreciate Brian sharing the media leaks that I don't know. My edible is starting to kick in slowly, but surely. I see you fading. Next week at Long Llam. It is the Super Networks, very special commentary of Ricky. Oh, the story of Ricky.

Now, anybody's seen this movie out of our group? Because I haven't. Yeah, I have seen it a few times. I saw it once after we talked about it for March Madness. And Lance, I'll just let you know without spoiling it. This commentary will probably not go on YouTube. Yeah. then let's do what we can, man, to get it out there on the audio waves at least.

So, uh, Philip, until the horror returns again, good night. Appreciate Brian sharing the media leaks that I don't know. My edible is starting to kick in slowly, but surely. I see you fading. Next week, at long last, it is the super. for networks. Very special. Commentary of Ricky. Oh,

the story of Ricky. Now, anybody's seen this movie out of our group? Because I haven't. Yeah, I have seen it a few times. I saw it once after we talked about it for March Madness. And Lance, I'll just let you know without spoiling

it. This commentary will probably not go on YouTube. Yeah. Then let's do what we can, man, to get out there on the audio waves at least so uh philip until the horror returns again good