The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #39: The Stepford Wives (1975) & Get Out (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: August 28, 2021

This week we check out Jordan Peele's Get Out and also The Stepford Wives. Thanks for listening! ...

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Starting point is 00:00:10 James victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Fight and dread, fantasize about fear and glorify gore, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror movie. And then we go back and find a classic work that has similar themes, looking at both similarities as well as differences. Our goal here is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same from generation to generation, but we also want to point out how the presentation can change based on the social and political climate of the times. We include spoilers for the new film. However, we will wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature, and we will let you know before we do so with a spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:01:47 If you haven't seen the movie yet or for whatever reason you don't want to hear the spoilers, just turn our show off at that point or pause it, go watch the movie, come back later and start it again, and we promise you won't miss a thing. We generally assume all you guys have already seen the classic film, or you probably wouldn't be listening to this podcast, so there will always be spoilers when we're discussing anything that has been out for at least a year. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few, four-letter words.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Thus, our explicit rating on iTunes. How to do it. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be, too. I'm Lance, and with me, as always, are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? Going pretty good. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I always want to do, like, noises in the background while you're reading your intro. Well, Jack Offered to Rerecord that for us With some shit in the background For fucking weeks But like a dumbass
Starting point is 00:02:54 I don't send him the tape And I keep going through the whole thing At the beginning of every show We'll get around of that eventually You know One day One day What's the situation at your house man
Starting point is 00:03:06 The situation of my house is fucking crazy House guests House guess house guess Oh, been there. Yeah. Way too many. That's all I have to say about that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Pretty much right there. But my not so cool of the week, I watched a couple of shitty movies this week. Yeah, you're good at that. And let's go ahead and get the ball rolling then, huh? Yeah. Okay, I'll talk about the not so shitty. It was shitty, but not that shitty. We reviewed the trailer.
Starting point is 00:03:42 The tool of the week, but the not so shitty of the week. There you go. There you go. We reviewed the trailer for Arbor Demon a couple weeks ago. Yeah, so I checked that out. Really? Is it out? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, it's on VOD right now. It's very disappointing. Oh. I kind of like Fiona Duroff, Brad Doreff's daughter that was in the last Chucky movie. She was the one of the wheelchair. I kind of like her. Yeah, she's going to be in the next. next one too.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, she was horrible in this. Oh, boy. Jake Busey was, you know, he was Jake Busey in this movie. Is he as crazy as his father? He was a bit of an asshole in this movie. He can be, man, but he's usually spot on with whatever character he's playing. But not crazy? Yeah, not crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Because if he's not crazy, Bucy, I don't really want to see him. The demon, well, there was more than one. They... Cocaine Bucy. Yeah. The demons were very, the makeup effects on them were really, really bad. Oh, were they? Man.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, it looked like. Yeah, they looked like they took moths from outside and just stuck it on people. Oh, like the swamp thing? A swamp thing was a lot better than these. Oh, no. Yeah. So that, I don't really recommend anybody watch this. And on to my, probably if this came out this year.
Starting point is 00:05:12 would be my definite worst movie I've seen. Ouch. I was warned about this movie. I was born. No, my next one. Oh, no. I think you and me talked about it on Facebook, Lance, uh, yoga hosers. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:30 That's Kevin Smith, isn't it? This almost makes me not to ever want to watch another Kevin Smith movie. That hurts my heart. I love Kevin Smith. Are you saying, are you, he does some stupid shit. Sometimes, no, man. Are you saying this could have dethroned the darkness? Yeah, actually, because at least the darkness had good actors acting bad in the movie.
Starting point is 00:05:55 This movie had... Bad actors. Everybody was... His daughter is terrible. Oh, no. They pushed the Canadian thing a little too much with everything about this, about that, you know. Right. And they're not even Canadian.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Well, you know, Kevin. Smith is real, real into that real raw, like, amateur actor type style. Yeah, and I think who was, I think I listened to a review. I don't know if it was Jack or Cupka on the binge cast when they said that he had his daughter dressing kind of... Slutty? Yeah, she kind of was... That is kind of sick, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, compared to Johnny Depp's daughter, they were dressed completely different. Well, but Adam Brody was in this movie, dude. How bad could it have been, man? He's usually a good actor. Nothing was funny about this movie at all. And about almost an hour into the movie, I just kept pausing it to check how much time was left in the movie. And it was just dragging on and on. And I believe his next one in this Canadian trilogy is Moose Jaws.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I don't even want to watch it. I'm not even, I'm not interested in. Canadian trilogy? That shouldn't even anything. Yeah, and it's a lot of these same actors. I'm assuming Justin Long and Haley Jill Osmond are... That better involve some sort of iconic hockey team, okay? Moose Jaws, eh?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, for what I was told, it's going to be similar to Jaws, but would it moose? Haley Joel Osmond is in this? Yeah, well, he was in the other one. Where they turned the guy into the Walrus? A Tusk? Yeah, Tusk. That was the first of the trilogy. This is the second.
Starting point is 00:07:39 See, well, that's... I'm staying away from those. Man, hey, but you know what? Genesis Rodriguez was in it. She's pretty fine, dude. Is that somebody's daughter, too? Because it sounds like he just got a bunch of his friends together and put their kids in a movie. Yeah, but she's a lot. She's not older, but she's like in her 20s.
Starting point is 00:08:00 She's not like 16 or whatever their daughters are. Yeah. It was, I really, another one, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, recommend Arbor Demon more than I recommend this piece of shit. Strong words, man. But if you guys, if it's, it's on Netflix, so if anybody dares to
Starting point is 00:08:20 watch it, it's streaming on Netflix. I don't, I don't even, I don't even have it in my queue, so. If you've got like two hours extra of your life and you just never want to get it back again. Oh, dude, it's got a 4.3 on IMDB. That's higher than you would expect. Oh, out of
Starting point is 00:08:35 10, okay. But still, yeah, that's higher than I would expect. So, That with my house guess that's pretty much been my week. Nothing cool at all, dude? No, you know what? I can't even, last weekend was the NBA All-Star weekend. I can't even say that was on my cool little week because some of them events were really shitty too. Really pretty lame, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:59 The dunk contest was basically the worst dunk contest I ever seen. The celebrity game, which usually is entertaining, it's funny, was kind of cringy. and the actual all-star game itself was just, it was one of the high, I think the highest scoring all-star game. Yeah, he said there was no defense at all. It was, it was an all-star game. Come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But it was, but when it comes to the fourth quarter, that's when they usually play hard. Right. This game was just nothing but a glorified scrimmage game. And it looked like nobody cared, nobody wanted to be there. There was a couple of players that I guess they only play like two minutes of the game.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Like the Pro Bowl. That's why nobody watches that shit. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, nothing cool this week. Man, I kind of, I guess I kind of had the polar opposite, dude. I've had nothing but cool this week. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, not even talking about our feature movies we're going to review tonight.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Even that aside, I saw the first episode of Legion. Oh, okay, yeah. Is that cool the week? You guys were right. Well, why don't you go. first then you can talk about that then i'm caught up on it actually oh you're ahead of it it's three in yeah yeah it's three in i've already it's three in i watched the last episode um yesterday so it's obviously it keeps the momentum going yeah it's they're they're not quite as good as that first episode but uh
Starting point is 00:10:26 they're they're they're on something i like it and uh i keep trying to figure out because i don't really know i'm not real familiar with these characters and then uh one of the characters name is Sid Barrett. Yes. Yeah. Pink Floyd? Anybody? That was, so that was kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I don't think she's an actual Marvel character, though. Brian, you might know that better than us, man. You're more the comic book guy. Yeah, the only one I'm, as far as this show goes, the only one I'm familiar with, and that's only a little bit, is the main character in the movie. Yeah, Leason? Yeah, he's supposed to be Professor Xavier's son.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh, okay. So they haven't really alluded to that yet in the show? No, he's just trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Oh, cool. All right. Yeah, the whole show is kind of about figuring out what the fuck is going on so far. I like it. So I like it. I'm hoping that they wrap up a story with that first season because you know how much I hate it when they just leave it wide the fuck open?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Like it's just the end of an episode. Mm-hmm. But if they can do that, man, it's got a very heroes vibe to it. Yeah, but a good hero. Like the first season of heroes. It's super cool, man. I get excited when I watch it, and I feel kind of empty when it's over. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Well, let me ask you this. If you spoil it, so what? Aubrey Plaza. She like dies in the first episode. How the fuck is she still around? Is she just in his head or what? Well, I'm not sure. Didn't she get morphed into the wall or something like that?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, but I'm not entirely sure that she was real to begin with. You're still real confused about what's real and what's not. Even now? Three episodes in? Yeah. Wow. But I think she's just in his head right now. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:12:10 That's pretty cool. But in his head could mean a whole lot of different things. Right. You know what I mean? Because he's got such mental power and he can, you know, teleport and possibly move through time. They don't really give you a clear understanding of exactly what's going on. Yeah, there was a time travel. There's a lot of possible.
Starting point is 00:12:33 There was something weird with the costumes, too, because it seemed like his sister was dressed like she was right out of the 1960s when she came to visit him. Oh, that's a good point. She really looked like she's right out of the 60s. She's still dressing that way. Yeah, and then when they left the main area and those guys were questioning him, that looked almost futuristic. Like technology they wouldn't have. And then what was with the swimming pool, man? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And then they went back into his past and to some of his memories, and he's wearing this black and white striped, like horizontal striped shirt, like a ref uniform, but turned sideways. Or like an old school prisoner? Yeah, but it's very, I mean, it's kind of a 70s, 60s kind of style to it. Oh, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I didn't even think about that. I'm definitely intrigued, and the beautiful part is A.J.
Starting point is 00:13:30 watched it with me and she loved it. Yeah. So, Rose is watching that one with me too. Oh, cool. So we're in, man. Yeah, I got, I got, I got my wife watching it. All right. It's cool shows. So see, it wasn't such a shitty week, Brian. Definitely check that. Yeah, and may I add, it actually wasn't. I totally forgot. I was a guest on Kevin's show once more. Oh, you guys did the raid, didn't you? Yes, I totally forgot that one. That was pretty fun, actually. That, uh, I don't know when the episode will be out, but, uh, yeah, I, I, I told Kevin that we need that Clockwork Orange episode.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Oh, yeah, for sure, man. For sure. We're possibly going to be talking Repo Man tomorrow. Emilio Estevez. Yeah, the Emilio Estevez punk, West Coast punk movie. You know, I don't think, I know that we've talked about it before, but I don't think I've ever actually seen it.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It's a classic, man. You got to check it out. We'll watch it after we record tonight. Yeah, it's been a long time for me since I've seen it. one where Emilio Estevez was a garbage man with Charlie Sheen? I was men at work. Oh, right. Estabez actually wrote and directed, if you can believe that.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Really? His big claim to fame there. Emilio! Yeah, so, yeah, I did watch Legion. That's not my cool of the week, though. I mean, it's super cool. Oh, that was my cool of the week. What kind of week I had, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And I finally got around to watching the, I saw the Sense 8 Christmas special, which I hadn't seen before, which was kind of long, logging in at like two hours and ten minutes. Oh, wow. My only complaint is that it was a little bit long, but, you know, the characters are still going strong.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Unfortunately, there was one actor that had to change out, and that kind of took me out of it a little bit, because I guess the actor that played that part in season one didn't sign up for season two. But, yeah, once you get past that, everybody else was the same. It was pretty cool. Also a super trippy show, a mind fuck of a show. Not to watch that one.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But no, I guess my cool of the week, I'm going to lead up to it. AJ and I are watching all the Best Picture nominees. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, of course, we rewatched Arrival, which was just as good the second time, if not better. Yeah. But the other standout for me, and it's not horror-related, although it does have some horrific stuff that happens in it. Have you guys seen any of the Oscar films at all? I've seen a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, Kevin had asked me on his show, and other than a rival, I have not, I don't think I've seen any of them. I just, I picked up Hacksaw Ridge last night, but I haven't watched it yet. You know what? That's actually the one I haven't seen. Okay. But the standout for me was one called Hell or High Water. Oh, okay. I haven't seen that one yet. Is this what, Chris Pine? Chris Pine, Ben Foster, and Jeff Bridges.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Jeff Bridges was fucking phenomenal. I think I remember watching the preview for this. Very good movie. I think that we did the trailer for this on the show. Yeah, super, super brutal. Yeah. Super brutal. Very well written.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'll be real disappointed if it doesn't win the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay. Because I think it was, the dialogue was phenomenal. And the acting was just top-notch. So, yeah, I would say Hell or High Water for me was the other standout after arrival. It's weird. The ones I've seen. that, you know, Amy Adams and, what's the other chick? Isla.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Isla Fisher? Yeah, Isla Fisher. And they're both in the Oscar-nominated movies here because they look almost identical to each other. Yeah, it's kind of a trip. Nocturnal animals, is that what it's called? It's a great movie. Yeah, that was a really good one. I watched that one.
Starting point is 00:17:17 How was, have you seen Moonlight? I saw it, man. I thought it was a downer. AJ liked it a lot more than I did. Okay. And the other one that she really liked that I didn't care for because I thought it was also kind of a downer was lying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:33 All the Oscar-nominated movies are always downers, man. Not Hell or Highwater. Well, Heller Highwater kind of was, but it had a lot of action in it. It was really good. It was a man's movie. I'll put it to you that one. You don't get a comedy on the best picture list. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Nah, but at least we got a rival. man. That's, yeah. Hey, you know what? Yeah, I was kind of surprised about that and I'll take it. I was too. All right. That covers cool of the week, right?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yep. So, Brian, what's, what are our horror headlines this week, man? Sometime this year we're supposed to get an unaltered edition of the original Star Wars trilogy, which I think is pretty fucking cool. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, because I, it takes me out when I see the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, CGI effects they put in the original ones when they add characters in.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It takes me out. Yeah, it totally takes you out of it. I totally understand that. And I kind of wish that that they already sold that. I can't believe they don't. Yeah. So we're going back to Han shot first, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I'll take it. Yeah. Hans show. But, uh, he's first in the new one too. But as far as I know, it's just in the early stages.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But from everything I read, they're looking for a 2017 release on this trilogy, unaltered edition. I'm guessing just in time for Christmas. It probably seems like that. In recent weeks, there's been a lot of talks of Hellboy 3
Starting point is 00:19:12 possibly happening. A couple days ago, Guillermo del Toro said Hellboy 3 is 100% not happening. Oh, no. Okay, well, so much for that. Yes. The director says it ain't happening. Yeah, it's a downer because he had posted a poll on Twitter who basically,
Starting point is 00:19:34 who wants to see Hell Boy 3, vote yes or vote hell yes. And if it got over 100,000 votes, then he was going to get Ron Perlman and the comic book creator together and have a meeting. They had the meeting, and I don't know what happened in the meeting. because I know everybody wants to do it, but he said 100% not happening. All right. That sucks. So much for that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Who was the creator, Mike something, wasn't it? The contractor creator? I don't have his name here, but I believe he was involved in the meeting. Not my Ditka. No. I'm thinking of Steve Ditko. Ditka. Who created Hellboy?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Help me out here, guys. Oh, let's look at it right now. because he's got a very distinctive style. Mike Mignola. Didn't he do the artwork and the writing for it, if I'm not mistaken? I think he did. I think he's one of those guys that does the art and the writing as well. I never read the comic books, but man, the movies were, they were really underrated.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yes, it says he is a writer and also an artist, so. Okay. Yeah, it's a shame. I really enjoy the first two Hellboy movies, and they left that second one off. on a cliffhanger. Maybe he'll show up at Texas Fright Mirror and we can maybe try to get an interview or something.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Maybe. That would be cool. Let's do it. Han Solo. Solo. Solo movie official release date has been set May 25th. What? No.
Starting point is 00:21:08 May 25th, 2018. What do you want to bet that'll get pushed back to December? Um, I don't know. No, you know, I didn't even check to see what was coming out in May. Right. That usually is like prime comic book movie territory, and I don't necessarily know if they want two of their properties competing against each other.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Oh, that's true. Well, I mean, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, you know, Star Wars is going to dominate as soon as it comes out. Yeah. But so is an Avengers movie. that's when they decided to release that shit. I mean, I'm looking at it as we're getting a Star Wars movie a lot sooner than having to wait until December. Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. But I've got a feeling they'll push it to December. It just seems like they should just keep all their stuff consistent, you know? Yeah. Like every other Star Wars movie comes out in December, it seems like. Yeah, you know, it could be like a thing, you know. It's December, Christmas time, you know, that means we get a new Star Wars movie, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, you're probably right, Lance. I'll probably end up pushing it. We'll see how it goes. I mean, I wouldn't, hell, I personally, I wouldn't mind. And you guys know I'm more of a Trek guy, but, I mean, I love every Star Wars movie since Disney's been doing them has been fantastic. Yeah. I wouldn't mind if they do two a year, quite frankly. Well, I mean, they're not going to have anything come out in 2017 if they push it to March 2018 or May, 2008.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Well, they get the last Jedi. in December. Oh, is it coming out in December? Yeah, yeah, that's this December, man. Okay, that's before the Han Solo. Yeah, for sure. That's the next one on the docket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 All right, well, that makes sense, then. Okay. On to Batman News again. Here we are. Matt Reeves is back on to direct. Is he? But this time, he is not only... This time, he's not only directing.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He's also producing the movie. Is he starring in it, too? because Ben Affleck's about to drop the fuck out. You think so, man? Yep. I think he'll possibly do this movie, the Batman movie, and I think he'll be done after that. Just to honor his commitment?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yes. Yeah. Because this is leading into my next bit of DC News, which totally convinces me. They don't know what the fuck they're doing over there. Oh, they just announced that ballback. They just announced that we're getting a Nightwing movie. And if anybody's not familiar with Nightwing, he is Dick Grayson, the first Robin.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah. I don't know why, I mean, I love the character of Nightwing. Right. But why are we getting a Nightwing movie? Well, it seems like we just do Team Titans, if that was the case. Yeah. Why are we getting this movie when we, they still haven't figured out a director for the Flash? Aquaman's not even started filming.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I'm not sure. Cyborg's not even filming. And they haven't had a single successful movie with Robin in it. Exactly. So I think there's too much fan service going on. They're just throwing out all this stuff. People want to see, but they're not really focusing on anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Well, yeah, that's like making a cyborg part of the Justice League, you know? I mean, why don't they just do it the right way and have a Teen Titans movie, and they could have Nightwing, Cyborg, you know, all the characters that were in the new Teen Titans. I think they totally should. They could make it a comedy, and it would be awesome. I mean, I know that... Yeah. I know they don't want to, but just follow the Marvel formula, because we...
Starting point is 00:24:56 One at a time? Yeah, we got all the Avengers before there was an Avengers movie. Right. And then we got more of their movies before they started adding new characters like Guardians, Ant-Man. Speaking of Marvel, Logan is next week. Yes. and the reviews are all outstanding for that movie. Fucking, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:25:18 That's the thing that I'm most excited for this year. That's good, man. That's good. Well, unless you hear Garrett's review, I don't think he liked it. I don't care. Oh, he's already seen it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't give a damn. I'm going to make my own choice. There are people that didn't like the Dark Night. I mean, right. Right now, I haven't really, I just read the headlines of the reviews, but they're all saying everything. want to hear that this is the bloodiest Marvel movie there's ever been.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Really? Yes, by far. The trailers give me chills, man. Yeah, I'm hearing words like decapitation and all kinds of stuff going on in this movie. So I'm, I am hyped for this movie, 100%. Well, we will be talking about it one week from today, for sure. Yes. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Okay. Annabelle 2 is officially rated R, which excites me because I think the trailer looks like it's going in a completely different direction than the first one, and I'm glad it's not PG-13 or PG-13. Was the first one PG-13? I believe so. I think so, yeah. I haven't even seen the first one.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Just like I haven't seen the first Ouija movie, because I heard it was so terrible. You don't need to. Okay. Let's see. Adrian Barbeau has just joined the cast of Jeepers Creepers 3. Oh, Jesus. I don't even think she can say that. Not for me anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like I said, dude, if they were going to have a different director, I'd give it a chance. But Victor Salva, dude, I just can't. After hearing all those stories, I cannot see anything this dude's associated with, man. Unless you are a serious horror buff, you haven't even seen the second one, much less the third one when it comes out. Yeah, and if you're a serious horror buff, you shouldn't expose it. yourself to the second one. Well, that's good. Oh, bad choice of words, Brian.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Gotcha. Okay. I haven't seen the second one. On to more casting news. Alfie Allen, which Game of Thrones fans know him as Theon Grayjoy.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Oh, that guy. Has joined the cast of the Predator. Okay. Which this is a nice little ensemble cast, which I posted. They put up a cast photo, and I posted on their page. I'm really looking forward to this movie.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It looks pretty cool. And from the... The alien one looks cool, too. Yeah, I can't remember the lead actor in the new Predator. He said this is not going to be a direct sequel to the first one after all, because he said he doesn't even think Arnold will show up in it. Which kind of, I'm kind of happy about... It's kind of disappointing.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, it kind of disappoints me a little bit. I'm kind of happy about it. I don't think it makes a difference one way or another in the story. I mean, it would have been cool that to Arnold to show up in the movie, but it's totally a cameo, and it may have taken you out of the story. So if they don't have any minute, it kind of will leave it a little more true to the story, I think, and I'm cool with that. I mean, if it's a good movie, it's a good movie, right?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. And with Shane Black directing, there's a pretty goddamn good chance it's going to be a good movie. Yeah, and I mean, honestly, with Arnold as one of the main thing, characters do you think it would be a good movie? Probably not. Maybe not. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know, dude. I think he still has it. I don't know, man. He hadn't been on anything in a long time. Instead of Uncle Arnold, he'd be Grandpa Arnold. Yeah, and I think it would be, it would be way too cheesy if Arnold was in it for too long. The one Arnold movie that I want him to do is when, I don't, they said that's still in development, but I haven't heard anything about it, is the King Conan. Okay, see, now, I'm cool with that. They would do that. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:29:09 cast him as an old man because that is what he is and I think he could totally pull that off and I'm Arnold was my idol growing up so yeah I think I think King Conan's off guys I can't even find a record of it on IMDB anymore yeah legend of Conan legend of Conan it's in development oh in development okay that's called now a k a king Conan okay that means they don't know yet Who knows. Okay. The cast is Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Okay. I'm going to do with Arnold in a one-man show. No problem, man. People, fans of the show Outcast, will probably be excited that season two has added special effects team that has done movies like The Conjuring and Insidious. Because from what I'm reading, Outcast season two is going to be more bloody and gory.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't think I've ever seen it. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's, I believe, oh, my gosh, Cinamax or Showtime. Okay. Okay. I want to say Cinemax. Um, I've seen season one, um, it's a good show. It's almost, um, it's like if you took like an exorcist type show and kind of spread it out into a season. Because, uh, there's a lot of, you know, people deal, uh, battling like, people that been possessed by demons and, you know, there's a lot, a lot of things going on in the, behind
Starting point is 00:30:45 the scenes. Yeah. Like, almost like, because in this movie, there's a lot of, or not movie, a TV show, there's a lot of people that are possessed with demons that had just been walking around us for like a long time and nobody even knew about it. I like that kind of, I like that kind of set up. So I'd be into watching that. I'd just never even really heard of it.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, it's, um, it's based on a comic book that was done by, uh, Robert Kirkman. Okay. From The Walking Dead. Yeah, yeah, Robert Kirk. So, and it has, and I've already forgot the lead actor's name, and Marcy always, like, fucks with me about it. Because I, every time I talked about the show, I always say the kid from, that he was, he was the kid in Almost Famous. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And I've already, and I've already, and now it's been a while since the first. What was it? What was his thing? Oh, shit. Dude, that was fucking, what, 20 years ago when that was? movie came out. He ain't a kid anymore. Great thing, though. Great. Because Marcy, Marcy yelled at me on Facebook, his name. Because every time I talked about Alcast, I would always say he was the kid on Almost Famous
Starting point is 00:31:51 because I can't ever remember his name. Well, that means he was almost famous. That's his name. Yes. But, yeah, I'm excited. I enjoyed the first season, and just to know that the same effects team that worked on the Conjuring and Sidious movies tells me that they're taking season two seriously and interested to see where it goes. Yeah, dude, I still haven't checked it out, man. I got to check it out.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I really need to see it. You said it was like, what, eight episodes or something? Maybe 10. Okay. Eight or 10 around there. Well, that's doable, you know? Yeah. Our biggest and last news item of the week is
Starting point is 00:32:32 Stephen King, J.J. Abrams, and Hulu are joining forces to bring us Castle Rock. a new 10 episode series and from what people are saying this is going to be Hulu Stranger Things. Hmm. So, Hulu's got original programming, huh? Well, yeah, they did the 112263, which was like a 10 episode. It had James Franco in it. That was a Stephen King novel.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. That the guy tries to go back and stop the assassination of Kennedy. Do they have some kind of deal with Stephen King to just... It seems like it, doesn't it? Yeah, to turn his stories into, like, series. I haven't seen the one with James Franco, but knowing that JJ Abrams is involved in how much of a horror and sci-fi fan he is himself. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I'm kind of looking forward to this one. The only thing is Hulu doesn't do like Netflix. They don't drop all 10 episodes right away. Right. so um but that might not be the worst thing yeah that's that's part of part of the reason i don't watch tv shows on netflix is because i can't stop like once i start oh yeah no shit i get like stuck and i'm up till four o'clock in the morning and i'm like i gotta wake up like two hours man like eating ruffles or something huh yeah or no
Starting point is 00:34:02 that uh pringle pringles where they said once you pop you can't stop or something Yeah. I'm intrigued just for everybody that's involved in it. And, you know, I think we all enjoyed Stranger Things. And if we get a Stephen King version of Stranger Things, you know, it could be really good. Yeah. Although his movies and TV shows and stuff don't always translate as well as the books. I would agree wholeheartedly.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah. Sometimes I'm super disappointed, man. You think that... You think this is... You think this is... You think this is... You think this is why they're bringing in JJ? Uh, that could have something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 That's a good idea, actually, you know? Because you said JJ Abrams also, I was like, all right, I'll watch that. Right. You got better than Arbor Demon. Or, uh, what was the other one you saw that was even... Oh, yoga hosers. Oh, fuck that movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And as far as I know that it's supposed to possibly sometime later this year premiere. All right, cool. And that was all for the news. So that means it's time to take our trip. Where are we going? Are we on that trailer park? Brian, where are we going? We are going to talk about TNT's Tales from the Crip.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I love it, dude. I love a good anthology, man. Love a good anthology. And M. Knight is back. wouldn't you guys agree? His last three or four movies have all been pretty good. After the happening, everything after that, I think, has been a little bit more happening. Yeah, because a lot of people, like, I enjoy Devil. I did too. Yeah, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, and, yeah, I think he's, I mean, some, I heard an interview, some would argue that he never left. But, as far as I'm concerned, you know, he is back. I am interested in stuff that he's doing now, and I was a big, fan of this the show when I was younger. Yeah, I was, I think we all were. We were talking about that earlier. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I think, you know, like as soon as you hear in the in the trailer, you hear that cackling of the, of the Cripkeeper, man, that's instant, just classic awesomeness, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah, and I like that he confirmed that the Crip Keepers coming back, because I know initially when they were talking about bringing back to show that they wasn't going to have the cryptkeeper. Yeah, that would have been exactly. Yeah, the internet just exploded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Is it the same voice, John Cassier or whatever his name is? Is that guy even still alive? I don't know. You know, I have, there is not a lot of information. There's not a lot of information on IMDB about this. Right. But from the teaser, it looks like it might, you know, it's going to be on the creepy. and yeah it looked like it was going to be pretty good and if they follow the same you know storyline
Starting point is 00:37:09 where you have like a separate story in each episode oh yeah that's the only way to do it right like black mirror kind of and at first i was i was confused in the feature at where they had like uh it was like images from uh different horror movies but i think they were just confirming that you know there's just going to be a lot of different stories going on Yeah, I saw that too, dude, because I saw the part where that horse got sliced apart, and that was directly from that Jennifer Lopez movie, The Cell. Yeah, right, yeah. The one that Tarsem Singh directed, so.
Starting point is 00:37:42 There was a little bit of Evil Dead in there, some It Follows. Yeah. Oh, was it? Okay, I thought it was. Yeah, that's kind of a cop-out teaser then, man. When it popped out, I was like, oh, man, that looks straight up Evil Dead. Right. Yeah, because for a second, I was confused, because I'm like, you guys, are you guys remaking old
Starting point is 00:38:01 horror movies or but I think he was just trying to instill that there's just going to be a lot of different different kind of horror elements going on, different stories, you know. Now is Chamelon directing every episode?
Starting point is 00:38:17 I don't think so. I'm sure he'll at least... I have to say it every time. Sorry. You have to. For sure. At least I think he's directing the pilot episode. See, I think they should have a different director for each other. That would be
Starting point is 00:38:33 cool. They used to do that with the original series. I'm sure they will. I'm sure they will. I'll bet you that they'll have some tried and true proven directors and I'll bet they'll have some first-time directors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll bet they'll have some actors turned directors. And I think that that will be super
Starting point is 00:38:49 cool. I like this idea. Keep it from getting stale, right? I'm super excited about it. And you know what? Shyamalan got kind of a bad rep because because his first movie the Sixth Sense was so amazing. So damn good. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:05 it was awesome. And then he set that bar real fucking high. Right. And it's real hard to hit that every time, you know? And then Unbreakable kept it high? Uh, yeah, Unbreakable was real good. Um, you know, he had a few of them that were really good. See,
Starting point is 00:39:21 there's a couple that I love that people don't like, like the village and lady in the water, everybody fucking bust my balls about those, but I loved them. No, the village was maybe even The village may have been my second favorite of his. Now, Signs is when I thought he kind of started nosed-diving. See, and I like signs better than the village.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Most people do. The village was a good setup. It was just the twist was bad. No, I love the twist more than anything. I could have sworn they were back in like the 1700s, the whole movie. And then when they did that at the end, it blew my mind, man. I think we were just waiting for a twist like the sixth sense. But the twist.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And it wasn't. What did you think, Brian? You're the tiebreaker. Of signs and the village. The village, you know, I've only seen it one time and I didn't like it. I didn't like it the first time. Okay, cool. Because it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:40:15 But I will say that. Like I said, I am in the minority on that. I will say, I will say I've rewatched signs not too long ago and it doesn't hold up for me. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, man. So I don't know. I will give the village.
Starting point is 00:40:31 another watch and I also, I've never seen a lady in the water. So, most people fucking hate it, dude. I'm warning you. It was, it was pretty cheesy, man. I really liked it. It's kind of like me with the movie we saw last week. A lot of
Starting point is 00:40:47 the critics I'm listening to are really fucking hating it. Cure for Wellness. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Yeah, I got, true, the story, the story writing wasn't the best. I mean, there were a lot of, like we said, from the beginning, there's plot holes all the way up and down, but Just for the visuals and the acting, I thought I really loved it.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Oh, yeah. I mean, Lady in the Water, I thought it was really great. Speaking of which, we're looking at a picture of the Showtime show Billions. Yes. And that's the dude that was the main actor and Lady in the Water, man. Paul Giamatti, yeah. Paul Giamatti. I thought he was great in it, man.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I like him in a lot of things he does. Yeah, he was great. Except Amazing Spider-Man, too. Yeah, moving on. Okay. On to a movie that I've been hearing a lot of good things about. It's been making it... It's been making its way through the film festivals is The Devil's Candy.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, it looked fucking amazing. It really looked like a roller coaster ride of a movie. What the fuck was going on? This is directed by Sean Byrne. Never heard of him. Starring Ethan Embry, which I didn't know that was Ethan Embry until his name. flashed on the screen. Yeah, no kidding.
Starting point is 00:42:02 No, I knew him. You saw him right away, huh? Yeah, he was the one person in the movie that I was like, oh, it's that guy. Yeah, also. I didn't recognize him at all at first. Yeah, also starring Sherry Appleby, Kiara Glasgow, Pruitt Taylor Vince, which I'm really shocked that he's fourth build on here. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:22 He is the bald guy. It's been in a lot of movies. I've seen him in a few things, the super creep that had the little kid. Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay, him. Craig Nye and Marco Porella. Man, it looks, it looks very, very fascinating. Yeah, dude, wow.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It looks. The trailer is awesome. Yeah, it looks dark, gritty. I love the scene where Prue, Tera, the Vince, he's got the guitar and he's just rocking out. Right. Because his character looks very interesting, because I have no fucking clue what's going on. Right. Why does he have this kid?
Starting point is 00:42:59 They don't give you a whole. whole ton of information. Right. What does he need the gasoline and a lighter for at the end? You know, what is going on? And it really intrigues me. And it looks really violent and bloody. Maybe the kid is possessed or maybe he's the devil's whispering in his ear that the kid is possessed, but the kid's really an angel.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. Or anything in between. He has that scene where he, I think it's the final scene where he's like talking to the girl and he says, you really are the sweetest candy or something like that. Oh, yeah. super creepy, huh? Yeah. No, the very first thing I said when this trailer was over was, I don't know what the fuck's going on, but I want to see that.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Right. We got a release date of this, actually, next month. March 17th. All right. Probably a VOD thing. Oh, but I'm definitely, I'm probably... Yeah. The Benedict releases.
Starting point is 00:43:54 When is it coming out? March 17th. I even like the cover of it. We got to check this out. The cover of it on IMDB has got like an upside down cross with his face in the middle. It looks creepy as hell. Yeah, this is worth checking out for sure. Whether we review it or not, this is this one I'm going to see.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. I'm going to go out on a limb. I think whatever episode we're recording that weekend, I think this is going to, if we all watch it, this might be in everybody's cool of the week. I'm going to go out on a limb. Okay, and yeah, we only have two trailers this week, so that was the last one. Okay, looks like we got another iTunes review. All right, yes, keep them coming. It's five stars.
Starting point is 00:44:45 This one starts with want a date with Lance. What? Look out. Oh, shit, hold on. Who's fucking with me here? Great mix of old classics and newly. Lisa's. I learned something new every time I listen. Really love listening to these guys. That Lance sounds really sexy. All right. You fucking out. Cock suckers. Who the fuck is fucking with me here? Apparently Scary Mary 69.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Sounds legit. Oh, 69. Sounds legit to me. And bam, another five-star iTunes review from JD Kik. These guys are great. Great. Enjoy listening to the craziness. All right. There's plenty of craziness here. Yeah, we'll take that review all day long, man. Okay, well, yeah, thanks for the reviews.
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Starting point is 00:47:01 What are we doing this? I forgot what we did this week, man You guys Scary Mary 69 really threw me off there I'm got to I got a refocus here guys The Stepford wives And get out
Starting point is 00:47:14 That's where we are So yes, that's right The new film by Jordan Peel get out As well as Nineteen 75's The Stepford Wives Is Scary Mary your wife? You're not fooling anybody here.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So we'll start with, we'll start with speaking of wives. We'll start with Stepford Wives. Trivia is directed by Brian Forbes, also known for King Rat and the Slipper and the Rose. Writer William Goldman. Now, you guys heard of William Goldman, right? Familiar.
Starting point is 00:47:47 He's actually got a lot of credits in Hollywood, but most of our listeners will know him for the Princess Bride. Ah. Misery. Inconceivable. He adapted the Stephen King novel Misery.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Okay. And also the classic, you guys ever seen Marathon Man? Oh. Oh, I think I have. Do you, you guys remember the scene in a cure for wellness
Starting point is 00:48:14 where the dental, the special dentist came in? Yeah. Was this a, I'm sorry, I keep cutting you off. Is this Dustin Hawke? Dustin Hoffman?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yes, sir. Oh. Oh. You got it, man. Yeah, he's a, it is a great film. I hope we get a chance to review it for the show at some point. Basically, he's a marathon runner, not the, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, basically, you know, kind of a simple guy. But his brother was actually a CIA agent.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And he had a secret, and he, I think he discovered a Nazi war criminal somewhere. and he got killed off and he left something with Hoffman. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But this Nazi war criminal is basically convinced that he knows something. And yeah, if you guys thought that the dental scene and a cure for wellness was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. So it's Marathon Man's a classic. And also this, Sefer Wives was based on a novel by Ira Levin, who's had quite an illustrious career with writing. thrillers.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Author R. 11 was originally going to write this as a stage play until he realized there were too many characters and he opted to turn it into a novel instead, which of course the film is based on. Director Brian Forbes claims Diane Keaton turned down the role of Joanna the night before signing her contract because her analyst got quote-unquote bad vibes from the script. Brian De Palma was approached to direct and early 1974, due to the surprise success of his first feature sisters. However, negotiations broke down and he ended up filming the suspense melodrama obsession instead. So,
Starting point is 00:50:08 Stepford Wives, many consider it a 70s classic. I think it definitely broke new ground in certain ways. You want to talk about it first, Philip? Yeah, sure. I think it was, I have seen the remake, but I had never actually watched the original. So it was kind of cool to go back and watch it. And I guess that's when the women's lib movement was hitting real hard. Because I think the main characters were, you know, very, very independent thinking women and, you know, dressing sexy and fashionably. and I think that the robots in the Stepford Wives thing were a little more subtle,
Starting point is 00:50:55 especially in the beginning of the movie in the original. So it almost didn't even seem like a horror movie. It almost didn't even seem super weird except for a few scenes until about halfway through the movie when they started really ramping things up. it did feel a little long to me, especially since it wasn't even two hours long. Maybe it's because there was really no background music.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I don't know if it's because it was just an old movie and it was, you know, a little more on the, like, sitting in the theater side. Yeah, I do agree with you. There was a point in a movie where it just kind of was kind of boring. Yeah, like it seems super slow for everything that was, happening. And then she went from like zero to 60 and nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:50 She's like, oh, things are really weird. Or I'm going to start stabbing people. Yeah. That is a question I wanted to ask you guys. First of all, how did you guys feel about the lead actress?
Starting point is 00:52:05 She was okay. You know who I really liked was the supporting actress? I thought she was fucking amazing. The best friend? Yeah, she was great in this movie She was great throughout the movie She was like great in the beginning And then great when she turned
Starting point is 00:52:21 Like she should have been the star of this movie Yeah, the best friend that keeps Tam packs ringdings and scotch in her purse Right, yeah, ringdings and scotch in her purse Yeah, what was what was the deal with the ringdings? I don't know, man Hey, maybe it was a 70s thing But yeah, I also really liked her
Starting point is 00:52:40 There's like, hey, here's these this vintage 20-year-old scotch and these vintage six-year-old ringdings sitting in my purse. Yeah, she... They should pair well together. Yeah, she brought a little bit... She brought something different to the movie that I thought was needed, which also happened in the later feature we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I really liked her, and... But there was a lot of weird shit being said. in this movie. A couple notes I took was, um, where is it? Something about, uh, I got two teenage boys at home with erections and then one of the other women said, well, just send them to my house. Oh, yeah. I know. Right. And that was like, that was Ginger from Gilligan's Island, man. Yes. Yeah. Was it really? Yeah, that was her, man. I didn't even realize that. And this is another movie that I'm watching with my wife and then she looks over at me like, what the fuck are we
Starting point is 00:53:40 watching. Right. It was pretty risky. It was a good movie though. For the time that it came out in. Right. Even like, okay, so the neighbor who was, the best friend who was such a great actress I felt like through the whole thing. Paula Preston, or Paul Apprentice. Yeah. But like, the taller chick, right? Yeah, but she's at these like neighborhood family events and wearing this just like next to nothing. I had no problem. I had no
Starting point is 00:54:08 fashionable boobs hanging out titty's pointing everywhere dude I had no problem with her or Catherine Ross well I know but like she's wearing it to like a family neighborhood event in like in suburbia that's something she would wear now that's something she would wear in 2017 I think that's something you couldn't get away with now
Starting point is 00:54:29 and I think it was super risque for back then you know and that's maybe why I thought the housewife thing like at first it wasn't super obvious that they were robots, you know? Right. It was just a little mundane. I was like, oh, well, these women are all trying to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Well, yeah, I know. But I go to those people's houses every day. That's right. Yeah, you do electrical work for a lot of rich fucking douchebags that treat their wives like shit, right? Well, yeah, yeah. But a lot of the housewives that are run across, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And they're just, you know, upper middle class is like that, where they try to keep their house clean. and all that stuff. And then that's what they talk about is housework and shit. It's almost as if this movie was trying to make a statement. I'm saying. It definitely was trying to make a statement. It's that whole women's live movement, man.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And it was hitting it hard right then. Right. True. And, you know, Catherine Ross and Pauline Apprentice, the two main characters were definitely burning bras type of broads. I really like the main guy that I guess he, apparently he used to work for Disney. Oh, yeah, the dude who put all the robots together, basically. Yeah, that he was...
Starting point is 00:55:46 Oh, okay. All right, yeah. Yeah, he was... What a creepozoid, man. Yeah, because he, what did he say? He was standing there watching her do something in the kitchen, and he was like, I like to watch women do chores. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Well, and then he's sitting there. It was almost like you expect him to pull his cock out and start masturbating or something. That's basically what he did when they were all in a group, and they were talking about whatever kind of stupid-ass political shit they had going on for the men's club. Right. And he's like drawing a picture of this dude's wife. Well, that was the artist, right? That was the famous artist, and she was a quote-unquote famous photographer, so she knew him.
Starting point is 00:56:24 She recognized him. She said, oh, you're that guy. Oh, I didn't know. And it was kind of similar scene in the new movie we're going to talk about time. Okay. That was kind of a throwback to this. I didn't catch him. I kind of felt like the drawing, and I thought they were like, basically.
Starting point is 00:56:38 studying her to make this robot. Well, yeah. Yeah. I was kind of I was actually kind of surprised when he handed it over to her, but then I realized he had had had another one where he drew a detail of her eyes, her eyes underneath the face. And he just handed her a photo,
Starting point is 00:56:54 or a drawing of just her face. Yeah. So he obviously was drawing multiple drawings while they were sitting there. Some of them kept so they could all, you know, get together and make, make the robot look as perfectly like her as they could, you know? Yeah. How long was that fucking meeting.
Starting point is 00:57:09 No kidding, right? Pretty goddamn long, man. And there was much fucking talk about nothing, you know? Yeah. Basically. I tell you what. Again, the best friend actress, Paulina... Paula Prentice.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah. Did a great job as a robot, man. When she got stabbed and malfunctioned... That was fucking funny. Yeah, dude. It was super creepy. Yeah, I would not want to see her turn like that. Dead on.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Doing the same thing every time. And I was rooting for. for her big time, man. I did not want to see her go down, but as soon as she said her and her hubby took that little weekend trip, I thought, ah, she's fucked. She was by far my favorite part of this movie. Okay, that is a question I was going to ask you guys. What made her stab stab her to see if she was a robot or not? She went from like, zero to 60, real fucking quick. Well, she was obviously very convinced that the chick, something was wrong with her. Well, yeah, because she didn't know she was a fucking robot. She's like, she could have just committed murder.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Hey, best friend, I'm going to stab you in the stomach. Sorry. Yeah, because originally they went from thinking that the water was that there was something in the drinking water. Right. You go from that to robots and there was not, I don't know. I don't think, I don't know if I might have blacked out and didn't see the explanation, but it just kind of seemed like the idea came across her to stab her. Right. Yeah, no, it was just kind of out of left feel.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Yeah. She did that, man. And she went from, like, being a little suspicious to complete hysteria real fucking quick. Which, true. I mean, she was in a fucked up situation, no doubt. Yeah. And another question I have, how do you, how do people find out about Stefford? How did the husband find out about?
Starting point is 00:58:54 I don't know, but she, uh, she said he had already made all those decisions without her consent and he'd already put down the down payment and everything else. And I, I kind of thought. That could be a whole other story, you know? Yeah, I kind of felt like he did a good job, too, acting. Yeah. Because you could tell earlier in the movie he was really conflicted on what was about to happen. Right. It's almost as if he knew.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. I think he did. I think he, that is the purpose of him moving to Stepford. I think there was a whole. Wow. And I think that's why he was so conflicted about it. Well, yeah, because it's not like he just joined this men's club and they were like, hey, do you want to replace your wife with a robot? Because it'll be awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Right. He's like, yeah, sure. But he... Go ahead. No, you go ahead, man. Oh, he, he, but I will say he did turn really quickly after that. Yeah, it was a little... After, like, one argument... Yeah, after one argument of her not listening to what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:59:50 True. I was, uh, I thought that was a quick little turn around. For as long as it felt, I feel like, yeah, there was, there was a lot of buildup, and then it went from, like, slowly, slowly building up. to just jumping off the fucking cliff. Cliff. True. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like... It's almost like the movie we talked about last week.
Starting point is 01:00:12 This might have been a better as a 10-episode miniseries or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They could have built the story. It would have been cool because it's like desperate housewives, but they're robots. Right, and I'll tell you what, guys, all men are chauvinist pigs. Am I right, guys? Am I right? Absolutely. Let me give you a case and point example.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah, pretty much. While I was watching this movie, I went on to Google. Google, and the first thing that I looked under images was Catherine Ross nude. Oh, because that scene for her robot. She was hot. Let's face facts. Her and Paula Prudis are both gorgeous women. Yeah, that final scene when she sees the robot version.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Right. It was oddly appealing, but also disturbing at the same time. Right. Yeah. I like how you went. appealing? Yeah, no, I thought both of them were pretty good casting. I really did.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I think they both, they both did a good job in the movie, and I think, like you said, the husband started out really great, but you're right, he just, he dove off the cliff. He went, he went from zero to 60 way too fast. Yeah, he did too. You know, he was, he was, I like that guy in general.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Right. Is that Peter Masterson? Yeah, the balding guy. I've seen him at a bunch of stuff, man. he's he's he's he's good i like that dude a lot yeah he just i don't know he just kind of he was good in the beginning but he just turned real apparently their their children are dressed like orphans and all the house isn't clean yeah yeah right i was like what is going on you were completely fine earlier i don't know man for the for the time that this movie was
Starting point is 01:01:58 made and everything that was going on socially and politically and everything i thought it was a pretty damn good movie and then how the hell did that dude get with her although oh i thought that too man king of queens you know that shit like that happens i guess he's probably had a 12 12 inch dick man maybe i don't know how to follow that's coming up with a better theory so we'll go yeah i don't know how to follow up with that yeah you follow that yeah no but i i enjoyed it man I thought it was creepy. It was super claustrophobic. And I kind of could see where she was coming from because when first Ginger,
Starting point is 01:02:43 Ginger got turned, you know, and they were tearing up for tennis court. And I thought, okay, surely you're going to be way too smart. Either one of you are going to be way too smart to fall victim to this, right? Ginger's got to be the last one, right? This is it. And then, yeah, when they turned Paul Apprentice, and I think part of it was just like you, Philip, I thought she did such a great job acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I hated to see her turn like that. Yeah, me too. I mean, that was a real fucking gut punch. But then she did awesome as a robot. Like, I mean, even... Oh, yeah, she was very convincing. We're looking at the IMDB for the Stepford Wives in every single photo underneath. It has Paula Prentice.
Starting point is 01:03:21 It's got her in there. Yeah, she kind of stole the show. Yeah, she totally did. I thought she was awesome. Yeah, what else has she been in, Brian? Do you know? Fucking nothing. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I've heard the name a lot. So she's... She's definitely been in some other stuff. I wanted to say Charlie's Angels there for a minute, but I'm thinking of somebody else. By any chance, have you guys seen any of the sequels? No. I didn't even know. Oh, she...
Starting point is 01:03:49 Just the remake. Wait a minute. Have you guys seen that new Netflix movie? I am the pretty thing that lives in the house? I've heard some good things about it. Did you? Dude, it's not too bad. It's kind of a super slow.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Lowburn, fucking Paul Apprentice was in that movie. I don't remember seeing her in it. Yeah. Well, I feel like she'd be a lot older now. I feel like she's been in a bunch of stuff and I just like nobody important. Like, yeah, what has she been in? I don't know, dude, for some, I don't know why I thought she had been at one of Charlie's Angels or something. I guess not. I'm sure she's been in a thousand things and it's just like supporting roles.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Right. Maybe she's been like a guest on Saturday Night Live or something like that. I've seen her before for sure. Yeah, she looked familiar. Of course, me being the resident old fart of the three of us, you know, I would have probably seen her more than you guys. I don't know, this movie was in 1975, man. Yeah, these sequels sound interesting. What are the sequels all about, man?
Starting point is 01:04:50 There was three of them. There was revenge of the Stepford wives, the Stepford children, and then the Stepford husbands. The Stepford Children, that sounds interesting. Interesting. The shoe is on Ziazzae afoot. How do we go about doing this Stepford children thing? Is it like Damien?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Or what the fuck are we talking about here? I don't know. I didn't even know there was, besides the remake, I didn't even know there was sequels to this movie. I didn't either. I'm just kidding. I love my kids.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I might have to, I might have to track these down. Oh, shit. I can't believe you haven't already seen them, dude, when they're sleeping. I know. Now that I found them, I feel kind of bad. I probably should have watched them,
Starting point is 01:05:33 and that could have also been my not cool of the week. Not so cool of the week? Yeah. I think I'm going to be happy to just leave it right here, guys. The remake I didn't care for as much, but this original one was, it really captured the spirit of the women's lib movement.
Starting point is 01:05:49 It ended up being a pretty claustrophobic and creepy movie. I enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah, it was all right, man. I just had to, I had to, like, make myself pay attention to it a couple of times because it kind of lost me Kind of dated or just... I think it got slow for a minute.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Right. Yeah, there was a good chunk right there in the middle that was just really boring. And my mind, my mind started drifting and I had to make myself focus on the movie. And I mean, that's never a good sign, but when I did, the movie was good. Well, how do you rate it, Bill? I'll get it a seven. I think it was... That's pretty high.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah, I think it was... It's definitely a classic. I thought it was really good. Again, you know, the supporting actress, Paul Apprentice, she probably stole the show for me. Definitely worth watching if you've never seen it before. But yeah, know that it's a slow burn and you're going to have to pay attention to it. Brian? I'm going to give it a six and a half.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Not bad. I think that good chunk that was just kind of slow. kind of threw me off. Mm-hmm. But I thought everybody did well in a movie, um, especially, uh,
Starting point is 01:07:09 when they were robots, I think, especially that scene at the end when they're in the grocery store and they're just walking by. Oh, yeah, that was creepy, and you,
Starting point is 01:07:17 and you can, you can clearly, is 70s creepy. Yeah. And you can, and you can clearly see the next couple or the next, uh, wife that's about to join them in the background arguing.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Right. And, as the older lady said, the first black couple. Oh, Oh, the black cover. Yeah. Yeah, which leads us right into our new feature.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Which, with the acting and the overall story, yeah, I'm going to give it a six and a half. It was a pretty, it was a decent movie. Cool. It's doable. Yeah, I go six and a half as well. Yeah. It's definitely worth a watch, anybody who hasn't seen it. The remake, the one with Nicole Kidman, didn't really do that much for me.
Starting point is 01:07:59 but this one I thought really captured the spirit of the times. You know, I thought it was definitely dated, but I think it was good that it was dated. It was dated in a good way because it was almost a piece of history. Exactly. Yeah, for sure, man. So yeah, the Steppford Wives, we would definitely recommend this one, maybe not the remake.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Brian, you rewatched the remake. How would you compare it to this one? I don't because they turned a remake and, into a comedy and I think that's kind of totally totally against what they was trying to do in the original. Yeah, right. It was, yeah, it was, the original was more metaphorical than anything else, man.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It was trying to make a point. For sure. Yeah. And it did it well. Yeah, I thought so. It did it well. All right, cool. Well, uh,
Starting point is 01:08:50 all right, so moving on, uh, the second movie this week is the brand new film, uh, get out. And, And if you had told me that Jordan Peel was going to write and direct a horror movie this year,
Starting point is 01:09:08 I would have told you to get the fuck out. Get out. You know what I mean? I mean, holy shit, dude. I was not expecting much from this at all. Yeah, me neither. But of course, everybody knows he's half of the comedy duo Key and Peel. He has actually written before.
Starting point is 01:09:26 He's written for Mad TV, Key and Peel, and Key. And the movie Kianu. So all comedy, right? So what the fuck could this guy possibly know about horror? Hey, you know what? That's why I get upset that the Oscars don't give enough to have the comedy movies, you know what I mean? Because those are probably the most talented writers and probably the best movies, because what movies do you watch over and over and over? You know what?
Starting point is 01:09:53 Or in comedy. And guess what? It's starting to give me a little hope for the new Halloween movie. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Brian, do you catch my draft, man? Yeah, absolutely. During a talk after this movie's January 2017 Sundance Film Festival screening,
Starting point is 01:10:12 director Jordan Peel said that he first got this idea during the 2008 Democratic primary discussions about whether an African American or a woman was more deserving of the presidency. He then went on to explain that from that seed of, an idea. He further conceived the movie, here we go, as a twist on the 1975 movie the Stepford Wives, in which suburban husbands replaced their
Starting point is 01:10:38 rebellious wives as compliant robots. Jordan Peel also cited the original Night of the Living Dead as an inspiration for making this his feature film writing, directing debut because the film had an African-American protagonist
Starting point is 01:10:54 and dealt with serious racial issues inside the framework of a horror movie. Okay. So, uh, Brian, what do you think, man? Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I really, really enjoyed this movie. It, it was creepy and uncomfortable at times, but I think that's what the movie kind of was making, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:21 certain elements like, um, certain scenes were just, you really felt the uncomfortableness of the main character. And I think they really did that well. There was a few times,
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm just going to say this outright. I kind of seen a certain things coming early in the movie. Well, yeah. And that kind of took me back a little bit because I felt like it was just, there was too many tales early in the movie for me. But with that being said, I thought everybody was phenomenal in this. I thought the,
Starting point is 01:11:53 her, the girlfriend's parents were super creepy. And that's saying what? because the one that played the mom, I only know her from 40-year-old virgin. 40-year-old virgin. She was great in that movie. And I thought she was really great in this.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It was funny when it needed to be, too, because it kind of shook things up a little bit when it needed to. Right. Let off some steam, basically. Yeah, exactly. What would you expect from Jordan Peele? It was really well-time, though. Wow. This is really hard to not even get into spoilers.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Oh, we're going to have a lot of it. I'm so, like, interested to ask you about the last thing that you said, man. Yeah, I'm really struggling to try to not spoil this movie in this first review here. But I really enjoyed this movie. I think, Peel, is that the one that directed and wrote this? Yeah, Jordan Peel. Yeah, I think he did a one. No, he's the short one.
Starting point is 01:12:57 He's the short- I think he did a great job. It looked fantastic. And I thought the main actor, I thought he was, I thought he did great. The only thing I've seen him in is that second episode of season one of Black Mirror. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I knew I'd seen him in something before. I knew he's a British actor. I knew that. Yeah, but overall, overall, I really enjoyed this. I wouldn't necessarily call this a straight,
Starting point is 01:13:27 horror film. Yeah. Which a lot, a lot of, a lot of people are calling it a horror film. Right. I think it was more
Starting point is 01:13:33 suspense. Yeah. With a little bit of, with a little bit of comedy in there. Yeah. But yeah, I really enjoyed this movie.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah. More of a suspense thriller, but it's, it's a classic. Yeah. All right. What I, what I think we're probably
Starting point is 01:13:46 going to do here because there, there are so many twists and turns in this. I mean, I mean, Jordan Piel would put him night to shame. Really?
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah. Right now. The way they're going right now, he would definitely put him to shame. Oh, great twist. I think what we're going to do here is we're probably going to each cover about two minutes and then give our scores. Yeah. And then we're going to go into, there's going to be, we're going to be very spoiler heavy on this particular episode of the horror returns. I mean, you guys agree? We're safe to say that. This is a very hard movie. Like, my, my wife was supposed to go with me and she couldn't make it. And she asked me how it was. And I was finding it hard to talk about the movie without letting something slip. Right. All I'm going to say before I give my score and then we really start digging into this. And I don't say this lightly.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I mean, you guys know how I am with ratings. Modern horror classic. Yeah. The film is a fucking masterpiece. This is one of the best fucking horror movies I have seen in years. And I don't say that lightly. The sense of dread, the sense of entrapment, the sense of just, fucking feeling like you're stuck and there's no goddamn way out at certain points in this movie
Starting point is 01:15:04 we do a horror movie podcast week in and week out that means all three of us are big horror movie fans we can take anything nothing makes us scared nothing fucks with us I'm not lying to you guys when I tell you at one point in this movie I almost had to get up out of my seat and leave the fucking theater wow it was that fucking frightening to me. And the funny parts were perfectly well-needed comedy relief when they came in.
Starting point is 01:15:36 They were awesome. This was just a great movie from start to finish. I don't know what else to say. I was blown away. And I started getting really worried because I was looking, I try not to,
Starting point is 01:15:47 but when you look at the movie times, Rotten Tomato scores come up and I saw a lot of critics were giving this really high marks. And I'm like, ah, fuck, I don't want to read any of that. I don't want to go with the popular consensus or whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:01 But damn, guys, I'm ready to go see this again right now. I mean, this was a really damn good movie. Well, man, I can't totally disagree with you. I think that it was definitely one of my tops of the year. It's going to be a classic. It was really good, and it was very racial, but it was very racial, but it almost put you in the shoes of the blackman. When the girlfriend said,
Starting point is 01:16:39 oh, I'm going to tell my parents I'm coming home with the blackman. She was funny. And, you know, they had a lot of really intense moments and a lot of really intense racial moments, but I think that they were well-timed, and it did really well to put him as an outsider. in this place, even though they all seemed very welcoming. And then I love...
Starting point is 01:17:04 That was the cool part. They did seem so welcoming. And why did they? Oh, the twist was so great. I knew something was coming, but I didn't see that twist. No, I didn't either. And it was so awesome. I thought it was going to be more of a literal Stefford Wives type of twist.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, I know. The twist was great. Everybody did an awesome job in this movie. It was pretty, it was pretty. good, man. I was very, very impressed. Yeah, I highly recommend it.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I mean, I'd say anybody listening now who hasn't seen it, please, please don't listen to our spoilers. Go see the movie, come back and listen to the second part of the podcast. Brian, what's your score, man? I am going to give this a nine. This was an outstanding
Starting point is 01:17:55 movie. I thought everybody was great in it. The tension was there. said the the claustrophobicness of just he oh gosh i almost spoiled something uh um there was real fear there there was comedy it had a little bit of everything oh that chick oh man so yeah uh before i even get into spoilers i yeah a nine definitely everybody check this movie out i also give it a nine it it's it If this movie is not on the top five of my year,
Starting point is 01:18:34 I'll be turning cartwheels with joy, because that means this is going to be such a great fucking year in movies. It's guaranteed. It's an absolute lock. Write it down now. Whoever's keeping up with the contest for the shirt for next year, this is guaranteed to be in my top five of the year. Yeah, I'm going to give it a nine too, man.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I had decided that before y'all even said anything. I think the acting was phenomenal with what they did with such little, like just facial expression acting. Smell the fart acting, if you go back with Joey from Brins. Okay. They did very great, like just facial expressions and the tears rolling down from a couple of different people. Oh, yeah, that was amazing, dude. The whole thing was just great. Everybody did an awesome job.
Starting point is 01:19:31 I can't say enough good stuff about it, man. It was really good. I was just so pleasantly surprised. And then the way those parents were like quasi-liberals, like so welcoming and so open and so liberal. And, oh, man, this movie has a lot to say, doesn't it? It's going to make us all look at ourselves, I think, a little bit, you know, at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So, all right, folks, there you have it. Three-Nines. If you haven't seen Get Out, get the fuck out. Quit listening to this goddamn podcast. Hit pause now or even stop it. We don't even care if you listen to the rest of this. But if you will, go out and see the movie.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Please come back and listen to the spoilers that we're going into right about. No. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Okay. I think I'm going to start it out. I just want to get the little quick thing that kind of just threw me a little bit out the way before we get into the rest of the movie. It was a tell for me from the trailer that I always felt like the girlfriend was involved the whole time. Because when you really, when you really get into how the family is and how they're the circle they keep. Hello? Yeah. I didn't get that, man.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Okay, this is how I see it. I felt like she couldn't have known that her family was like that. Something just told me she couldn't have known that. And then when you get the opening scene with Andre, who's walking through the suburban neighborhood, he's talking to a girl on the phone who's leading him around. Oh. And then he gets abducted by the guy that comes up, puts him in the rear naked choke, chokes him out. And then later you get the scene with the brother talking about, do you like MMA?
Starting point is 01:21:31 Oh, wow. That's where I kind of, that's where I kind of was starting to put things together. See, that's like some six cents shit, you know? Right.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Try I say that. The foreshadowing. Sixth sense shit. Okay. But no, that's, you know, because I didn't see the six cents thing coming.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Right. And yet it was there the whole time. Right. Right out in the fucking wild. And I didn't see this one coming, but now that you're saying that, I was like, oh, wow, yeah, that's a good point. Right. But with that being said, you know, the movie is fucking fantastic. You know, everybody did a great job.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Even the guy that got abducted in the beginning, Andre. Yeah. He's on that show with Donald Glover, Atlanta. Oh, okay. Okay. His character from the beginning of the movie to when he is Logan, when you next see him, is completely different. I thought he did a fucking excellent. job. Great job. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Everybody. Wrecking up in the theater when he was walking around on his cell phone. Everybody was fucking creepy. Not me. Right. Everybody was creepy right down to the
Starting point is 01:22:40 groundskeeper. The way he was talking. I was like, why is he talking like this? It was kind of weird. Oh, and that's where I was going with the lady. The like the maid chick. Georgina. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Georgina. Yeah, that conversation that she had with him where she had like tears streaming down her eyes and stuff? Wow. Wow. That was incredible. Well, this is a movie
Starting point is 01:23:04 that bears watching again. Yeah, definitely. Oh, absolutely. Like that six cents thing where you go back and check it all out again. She did such a phenomenal job. I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:23:14 I hope this movie gets the recognition it deserves, but like I said, I kind of peaked at Rotten Tomatoes inadvertently. Because when the app that I've got on my phone, when I look at movie times, it automatically will show you
Starting point is 01:23:25 a Rotten Tomato score at the top of it, which fucking pisses me off, dude, because I don't want anybody influencing what I think about certain movies, you know? I like to make up my own mind. For a couple of days before it came out, that it was at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Dude, there's no way to avoid it, man.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Everybody fucking loves this movie. Yeah, it's actually... It's actually in the trailers they show on TV. It's actually in the trailer that scored 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. I was like, I hate that shit, dude. I hate fucking knowing what other people say before I see a movie.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I want to make my own opinion about it. But now this is one that you guys would agree. If there's not some Oscar talk on this, it's fucking criminal. Oh, yeah. Am I right? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Fucking screenplay.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Dude, let's talk about Jordan Peel for a minute. Hell yeah. I mean, this dude needs to keep fucking making horror movies. This guy, he knows his comedy. Because that dude that he cast, and I think he's a stand-up comic. I'm pretty sure I've seen him somewhere before. Mm-hmm. But that guy that he cast is the comic release, the TSA.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Oh, he is, his name is Lil Rel. He is a comedian. Okay, yeah. I think I've seen him before. But yeah, as the TSA agent, man, he is so fucking hilarious. He's really good. Yeah, he kind of keeps you centered. Every time he came on screen, it was hilarious.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And it was great timing every time, you know, because it was the perfect comic relief, you know. and I even at the end of the movie when he comes in it was like your heart's beating a mile a minute and then he comes in and you're like oh my god buddy oh yeah yeah yeah because because when when the car pulled up with the lights I thought it was the cop from earlier yeah that was the whole point man but it's no it's so well done it's your best friend showing up to save your ass you know because t s a yeah T S yeah T S A. Literally the cavalry. T.S. Motherfucking A. That's right. More to the point. I like how he told the detective how TSA, they get the same detective training as them,
Starting point is 01:25:35 because they deal with terrorists. Yeah, we may actually know more than you, you know. Well, hey, dude, whatever works, you know? At the end of the day, man, whoever saves the day, man, who credit's doing, you know? Cracking me up, man. I love him. I know he's not a main role in this movie, but God, he was great. great.
Starting point is 01:25:54 You guys were talking earlier about the actress that plays the girl's mother. Yes. Catherine Keener is her name. Yes. You said you remembered her from what, the 40-year-old virgin? Yeah. I mean, I know I've seen her and other things, but that's the role that always stands out in my head. Dude, she's been in a lot.
Starting point is 01:26:14 My standout role for her and the reason that I fucking hate her and always have was the 1999 movie Being John Malkovich. Oh, yeah. She was the shrew that was the girlfriend of the main guy that was a puppeteer. And she was just a
Starting point is 01:26:32 fucking stone cold, mean bitch. And ever since then, I have, I can't stand this bitch. And I fucking hated her, dude. Maybe that tells you that she was good an action. That was great casting. Yeah, that was great casting. And the dad, the way he was
Starting point is 01:26:48 this, oh yeah, man, I love black people. I voted for a black person. I would have voted for him for a third time if I could have had a chance to. You know, it's like this fucking two-faced asshole motherfucker. You know, he was just pissing me off, dude. But no, they did love black people. That was the twist. They wanted to be, yeah, okay. Because they wanted to be the black people. But that was so goddamn sinister, dude. I know. It was, oh man, I thought that was a great twist on turning such, like a, because, you know, when I first saw the previews to this movie, I was like, oh, great, more racism shit.
Starting point is 01:27:23 That's not what I want to fucking hear right now. I thought it was just going to be the same story again, that we hear over and over, that they hit you over the head with. Because I just, I just, I get tired of hearing all the racist shit, because the more that we put it in the news. It's like we're feeding it. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:37 We're feeding into it. Right. But this one gave you a glimpse into the life of, you know, what it's like to be, here we go again. I'm a black guy. I'm getting fucking pulled over or something, you know? And, but then at the end, when they came in with the twist where they actually wanted to be the black guys,
Starting point is 01:27:59 I thought that was super cool. I was like, okay, there's a jealousy thing going on here. I don't know. I thought it was a great twist. You want to talk about some good acting? The girlfriend? The way that she fucking sold herself early on. And when he found the pictures and totally surprised.
Starting point is 01:28:16 What a cop, man. What a fucking cunt. Brian, Brian got it. And another thing that kind of bothered me is... Oh, you saw it coming, Brian? Yeah, I explained it. I think you had got up for a second. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:28 In the beginning when Andre was walking through the suburb, he was on a phone with a girl. Oh, no. And the guy that came up and choked him out, later I figured out it was the brother when he had the conversation about M.MA and Jiu-Jitsu at the dinner table. Sure.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And I was telling Philip how, in the trailer, I kind of always figured that the girlfriend was involved in some way because when you really get to see how the family is, there's no way you grew up with that family, especially if it goes back to the grandparents. Right. He said, no, bitch,
Starting point is 01:29:01 I ain't trying to fuck you. That's my best friend. And I don't know, in the pictures, I don't know if you guys notice that Kegan Michael Key, Jordan Peel's partner, he was in one of the pictures as one of the basketball players. I miss that, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I can see that. Yeah. Because when she was going through the pictures, I was like, hey, I know that guy. That is awesome, dude. That is awesome. That was a great scene, man. That was a good reveal. Yeah, and then the father, I had to look him up because he looks so familiar to me.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Very familiar, dude. He's been at a lot of shit. He was in Billy Madison. Oh, that was the douchebag. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the one that said, I award you no points. And may God have mercy on your soul. But, uh...
Starting point is 01:29:51 Oh, that is him. Wow, he's aged quickly. Yeah, he's, he's pulled a full Malcolm McDowell, dude. He's gone from looking, you know, 20 years old to look in 70, like in a year. He looks all Mr. Holland's opus in this one. Right. Yeah, but, and also the kid, the, uh, the brother. The one that did the MMA moves and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, that guy. He's super fucking. and creepy. He was a Banshee in the new X-Men movies. Oh, yes. Yeah, but he's been in, he's been in a lot. Caleb Landry Jones is his name, and he is so fucking creepy.
Starting point is 01:30:27 He's a creepy-looking dude, man. Man, he's been in, he's got a lot of shit coming out, actually. Yeah, I actually took, I actually took my son to this movie, and he just kept asking me, is that guy, is that guy high or something? Because he just was, I don't know. I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:43 I think they mentioned that in the movie. A couple of girls that were sitting next to me were like, that dude's on drug. Right. He's on something. That's for damn sure. Incest or something. He just fucked up. But yeah, going back to the girlfriend, she, yeah, her hiding who she really was, she did that excellent.
Starting point is 01:31:08 And I also, the phone call with the best friend Rod, how she switched it around real quick. Because, you know, I haven't seen him in two days. I don't know where he's at. And then she just turned it around and was like, I know why you really called me. It's because you want to fuck me. Yeah. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:31:23 and it just, it just switched instantly. Right. For sure. The other movie, not to interrupt, Brian, I'm sorry, man.
Starting point is 01:31:32 The other movie, before I forget that this Caleb, Michael, or whatever his name is, the creepy ginger kid. Yes. Anti-viral. Have you guys ever seen that?
Starting point is 01:31:42 Uh-uh. Directed by, uh, the last name should sound familiar. is directed by Brandon Cronenberg. Oh. Yes, David's son. And, yeah, he plays the main guy in that movie.
Starting point is 01:31:54 And he is super fucking creepy. I did see that movie. Is that with the rich people getting like transplants or something? Is it or am I thinking of a note? Oh, okay. I've seen that movie. And he basically, he was the guy that went and sold the parts and the blood and stuff like that to other people. And then he ended up getting a virus that he couldn't get rid of.
Starting point is 01:32:15 and it turned into a serious Cronenberg body horror movie at that point. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, he sold it. He's a good actor, man. He's a good actor. He's a super crete big time, man. Yeah. So I didn't mean to interrupt you there, man.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I know you were on to something there, Brian. Yeah, I tried to remember. Oh, did you guys feel that it was really convenient that he found the box of pictures? Maybe that was the one. That's why the movie was a nine for me and not a 9.5. That was a little too convenient. Or a quick second, I thought maybe the maid Georgina put it there because it's seen through the movie she was struggling, like the actual real her was struggling to come out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:57 All right. That actually makes perfect sense. It was her then. You're right, Brian. You just figured it out. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking looking back at it because, I mean, he kept looking over to that open door. And I mean, he did that earlier in the movie too and didn't go in there. and maybe that's why she unplugged his phone
Starting point is 01:33:16 so that he would go in there and look at it. She had to have done that. Brian, you just hit the nail right on the head, dude, for sure. How did you guys feel about the whole... And she was super conflicted. How did you guys feel about the whole hypnotizing thing and being put into the, what do they call it, the sunken? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I actually thought that was really cool. I love the way that they did it, you know? it was super creepy yeah i he did an excellent job with his acting uh when he's retelling uh how he felt about his mom dying oh yeah and he had like the tears rolling down his face that's another time this guy was on point this whole movie like you you totally felt for him the whole time right and uh he was completely involved everything that he did was super genuine. Yeah, I really, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I don't know what I thought it was, but I did not think it was brain transplants going on. No, I didn't either. That fucking threw me for a loop when they showed that. And the movie got kind of gory there toward the end, don't you think, Brian? I actually like that. I was telling my son, I don't like movies where someone's in a situation and they, where they're held captive and they get out. right and you know they just want to like get the person if there's someone stopping him they just want to get them out of the way no he was intending to kill people so he can get away and i really enjoyed that because i feel like in most movies you know somebody will get hit on the head and then they think that's okay i can get away now and they're not even thinking about that person right he was trying to get these people out of the way permanently yeah and then like towards the end when the uh
Starting point is 01:35:12 when the cop showed up, and he's like standing over the dead white girl. I was thinking, oh, here we go. Although she wasn't quite dead. She wasn't quite dead at that point either, you know? But there's dead white people around and a black dude's still alive. Dude, Jordan Peel used your expectations of what you thought you saw coming. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:34 So, just so fucking superbly, man. He did a really good job. It was so much more impressed than I thought I was going to be with his movie. I really hope lightning strikes twice with him, dude. I hope he doesn't go the M-night route after the happening. Well, like, full circle. Here we go talking about M-night again. You know, but I mean, that's what this reminds me of.
Starting point is 01:35:55 The twists were worthy of the sixth sense. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoy this movie just as much as the sixth sense, if not more. As soon as I saw the final twist come along, I mean, because, you know, they kind of led you into the people are getting hypnotized thing. Right. And then you didn't really see the brain transplant and the, and then the girlfriend being in on it.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Dude, that spoon turning around in that cup. Yeah. It's creepy, right? It's so fucking creepy, dude. I'm telling you right now. I love that scene, though, where he, by the time he realized what she was doing, it was already too late. And he was just like, no, no, no, stop. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:30 It was too late by then. Yeah, he was fucked. He was trapped. That's what I liked of it. That was actually, when that happened, and they got him in the chair downstairs, and he was scratching at the sides of the chair. and everything. I didn't know what he was up to or what he was
Starting point is 01:36:46 going to look down and think about. I don't think he knew it at first. I think he was just scratching at it. But then once he saw the cotton coming up, that's where he got that idea. But when he was sitting in that chair, that's when I almost had leave the theater, dude. It was so fucking intense. I couldn't take it, man. I hadn't been that scared
Starting point is 01:37:02 in a long time. That movie scared the shit out of me. It was intense, man. Do you think... Do you think that Blumhouse is going to lock Jordan Peel down? to do more movies for them exclusively? Oh my fucking God. I think Jordan Peel down. I think Jordan Peel can lock Blumhouse.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Yeah, there you go, man. You just got me thinking, Brian, this was a fucking Blum house. We didn't get Blummed. We actually didn't get Blummed. This is one of those rare gems that they produced. That's a fucking masterpiece of a movie. The only other Blumhouse movie that I liked almost as much as this one was that direct video when creep.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Do you guys see that one last year? With the, what's his name? Duplas. Another fucking comedy guy. Yeah, Mark Duplas. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great movie, but this was a fantastic movie. They're willing to take the chance on that comedy director being a horror director.
Starting point is 01:38:03 This, you know what? Dude, I'm just, whatever, whatever this dude does next, I'm in, man. Yeah, me too. Split was actually Blumhouse, too. Oh, it was? They're on a roll, man. Yeah, Blumhouse is on a roll for 2017 then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Chances on good. Didn't they do a piece of shit recently? Did they do the Buy-My Man? Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Let me, let me check. Let me check real quick.
Starting point is 01:38:32 If they did the Bye-bye Man, I'm not sold yet. But this is definitely in the right direction. No, they didn't do the bye-bye man. All right, cool. When you roll into horror movie territory, you're going to get. get some really bad with some really good. That's true. That just happened. That's the nature of the beast, right? But I think, no, I was really surprised as soon as that Blumhouse thing popped up.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I was like, right. Oh, this is that. That doesn't make me want to be super excited about this movie. But I think they might have something now, if, because Shamaun's on a role. They might have something with Piel. And I believe, is, is the Conjuring movies in those, are those Blumhouse, too? Are they? I don't think so. I don't think so. Look it up for us, Brian. While you're on the, while you're checking it out, dude. That's a pretty damn good question, man. Yeah, because the, yeah, the Conjuring 2 was, I think all three of us had it on our top five last year, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:39:29 Yeah. Or at least close to it. That's one of my best horror movies in a long time. All right, well, fuck, dude. Get out, man. This movie, dude. I was, mainly because I wasn't expecting. You guys remember when we first watched it. watch this trailer for the show. And we're like, yeah, you know, okay, Jordan Peel doing a horror movie.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Oh, shit. Blum House is involved. We're going to get blumbed again. Ah, shit. And then it's completely racial. Oh, another fucking racist in your face. In a time where we've got nothing but political shit hitting us in the face. Oh, man, I was dreading this movie at first.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Okay. The Conjuring is not, but the insidious movies are. and also sinister is also Well I'll tell you what man 2017 is off to a hell of a rock and start For Blummin' Boys for sure man This was This was a pleasant surprise
Starting point is 01:40:31 In every sense of the word Oh just to add another movie that I think From the looks of it is going to be a great movie The Belko Experiment Yeah it looks pretty good That is also under Blumhouse. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:45 See, I've seen a couple of more previews for that one, and I'm a little more excited about it than I was the first time I saw it. Yeah, I think for that, mostly I'm excited as James Gunn from Guardians. Yeah, he wrote it.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Yeah, so. And I got some great actors in it, too. And I really liked his past movies, Slither and Super. Oh, yeah. Both really good movies, man. Really good movies. so
Starting point is 01:41:13 we said enough about get out guys I think so if you haven't watched it definitely fucking go watch it
Starting point is 01:41:22 is I think definitely it'll it'll be a majority of our top five list at the end of the
Starting point is 01:41:28 year definitely right and I'm I'm almost convinced that we're gonna we're gonna hear more from Peele as far in the horror genre
Starting point is 01:41:38 this year I think this year we'll hear more Philip, final words? Yeah, no, I think that was it, man. I hope that we see more Jordan Peel in the horror field because he did great. That was an awesome story, Shamaun-esque.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Yeah, very much so. And I think if he continues down that road, man, I mean, this guy is definitely multifaceted and he's pretty awesome. He's definitely gained my respect. I mean, he already had my respect, But, I mean, coming out with a horror movie, I was like, I don't know, but he did it. It's good.
Starting point is 01:42:20 All right. I'm impressed. All right, all I'll say is that, for all you fucking hardheaded motherfuckers that didn't listen to me when I told your ass to get the fuck out and quit listening to our podcast and listening to the goddamn twist and go see the movie and discover them for yourselves, get out and see this movie. This is a fucking brilliant film. You've made Lance angry. Far and away, far and away, my favorite film so far of 2017. Yeah, me too. I know it's early, but, you know, really good movie.
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Starting point is 01:44:37 So next week, we will be reviewing Logan. and also the film version of Stephen King's Fire Starter. That's going to be awesome. And I've located the sci-fi sequel, and I will be giving a not-so-cool review of that, too. Oh, a Fire Starter? Yes. Why do you do this to yourself?
Starting point is 01:44:57 I don't know. I'm a little bit of a completus, so. Completis is not what I would call it. Massacist, maybe. One and the same, maybe. All right, Brian. So until the horror returns again, what are we going to? say good night

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