The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #391: Home Sweet Home (1981) & Thanksgiving (2023)

Episode Date: November 23, 2023

This week we gather round the table to celebrate that uniquely American tradition - Black Friday! wait...what? In any case, cool of the week includes Loki, This is Spinal Tap, and of course...turkey! ...Trailers are Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, Imaginary, and Terrifier 3. The podcast spotlight shines on Final Girls Horrorcast. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Have you seen there's like some new reality show I kind of want to check out?
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's like taking all these like, I'm going to say they're like B list slash A list kind of celebrities and they make them go through like special ops training. Oh, yeah. Special Forces one? Yeah, that one looks interesting. It does look interesting. It would be fun. Making them go through hell.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Other than that, man, I'm excited about getting my turkey ready. I'm going to briant it tonight. A turkey. Yeah. The turkey, turkey, turkey. Oh, yeah. It's that time, man. It's already almost...
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah, man. I'm going to throw some shit on the smoker. I got a turkey and a brisket. And you got to brine the turkey before you smoke it. That's the key to success. Round it overnight. All right. So I'm starting to night.
Starting point is 00:01:53 So is that your cool of the week, turkey? Yeah, man, that's all I got. No shit, that's it? Yeah, dude. I've been working my ass off and watched anything. I did find a cool car wash place where you can pay for like a monthly thing and they have a bar. And so you just, they wash your car and you sit at the bar and get drunk. Is it like all you drive off?
Starting point is 00:02:14 It sounds like a week to me. Is it, is it all you can drink for free or how does that work? No, you got to pay for the food and the drinks. Ah, okay, that's where they get you. Yeah, that's where they get you. Though, they did a great job. Waxed up the truck, happy. It looks pretty.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh, man. That's all I can think of, man. Cowboys. How about that? What's you got, Brian? I got some shows I got two I started and one I actually finished
Starting point is 00:02:53 I actually finished the series first show I think you checked out this one the first episode of Lance The Curse I want to know what you're thinking and I want to know how far you are into the series I'm only one episode
Starting point is 00:03:09 I'm kind of digging it because it's weird it is weird I don't think it's going. It is weird. I don't think it's going where it says it's going based off of the first episode. I don't think they're really cursed. I think it's a lot of stuff they bring on to themselves. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I can see that. Is this one of those where you like don't really know what's going on in the beginning and you have to figure it out along the way? It's a, I think so. It's an A-20-plus show. Okay. Is it? Is it a, Brian, would you call it a parody of like those HGTV reality shows, or is it more of like its own thing?
Starting point is 00:03:54 A parody, dark comedy, because there's some stuff that I can see other people not finding funny that I was laughing at in here. Philip, can I set the table a little bit? Brian, I don't want to steal your thunder. Go ahead. Okay, just to give you an idea, Philip, of what we're dealing with here, okay? You got Emma Stone, and I don't know the other guy's name, but I've seen him and stuff before. So they play this white privileged couple that are like moving to this little town in New Mexico. Apparently their dad owns property in Santa Fe, New Mexico, which is one town over.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Is this town probably like Espanol or something like that? Espanio, I think, Espanola, something like that, right? right? I think it is, man. It's close to where my mom lives. But, all right, so, all right. So here's the thing. We've got a lot of land. We just run out of their names. Let me give you an idea what kind of comedy we're dealing with here. So, okay, so they're both super white privilege. That's like super obvious, right? And like her dad is a slum lord, basically, like rents out apartments for probably like three or four hundred percent profit to people who can't afford him and then doesn't pick shit and all that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But she's like, oh, don't judge me on him. We're doing a reality show to help people. We're giving free stuff away. We're doing this to help people and all this. And of course, they're driving around a Tesla. And of course, they've built a house
Starting point is 00:05:31 that's 100% renewable. Of course, it cost them like $300,000 to build it. They live in it. Which is nice. And then when they're asked questions, like, well, what are you doing for the homeless people. Oh, we're spreading the money around. We're like giving them each $12.50 each, you know, per week
Starting point is 00:05:49 to subsidize their income. It's just like so hypocritical. So funny. But the most hilarious scene was when the dude, I love the guy that does the camera work. Brian, he was in, what was that movie with Robert,
Starting point is 00:06:05 or was it, not Robert Patrick, Robert Pattinson. Good time? Did you see that one? Where he pulled a coach? The Sprite can with acid. That's, he's one of the, what do you, the saffering brothers? Safty, something set. Yeah, and they did that gym, what was it with Adam Sandler, the,
Starting point is 00:06:28 the uncut gems. Uncut gems. So that's what you're getting. And so he's the cameraman. And all he wants to do is catch funny shit on camera, right? And so, like, he tells the dude, he says, hey, there's a little girl over there like, asking for money, why don't you go over there and get $2 out of your wallet and hand them to her while I've got you on camera?
Starting point is 00:06:49 So the dude gets out and he's like, okay, cool, this is going to make me look really good and people are going to think that we're giving back to the community and rah-rah. And he pulls his wallet. He's only got 100 in there. And he just see him going like, oh, fuck. Now what do I do? So he goes and he gives a little girl a hundred dollar bell on camera. And then he turns around the guy holding the camera. he goes like that and the guy goes like that and he runs back over to him says
Starting point is 00:07:15 oh I'm sorry little girl I didn't mean to give you that 100 let me go in the store here and get you some change and I'll bring you back to 20 and I'll buy the whole suspect from you yeah she's selling sodas okay he takes the money from her and that's when the curse I'm assuming I'm just saying because I recognize the actor that played the father he was in that
Starting point is 00:07:36 Captain Phillips movie where the Somali Pirates Yeah. Is that who it was? Yeah. So the little girl puts a curse on him. The little girl puts a curse on him. And so as far as I think
Starting point is 00:07:51 were led to believe that bad shit's going to happen because they've been cursed. But just from watching the first episode and seeing how this family operates, it kind of seems like they bring stuff upon themselves. I got you. And he's going to blame
Starting point is 00:08:07 the thirst. I'm going to stick with. it, Brian. Yeah. Yeah, I did see that part in the trailer. I remember now. Yeah, it's just far enough out there. And it's like South Park where it makes fun of the left and the right equally. You know what I'm saying? So I think I'm going to enjoy it, man. So anyway, back to your stuff, Brian. Sorry about that. Yeah, I'm checking that out. And then I checked out the first, I think three episodes of this show on Paramount Plus called Bargand. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I think it's South Korean. I'm not quite sure. The basic setup is men are lured to this building for basically sex. They're lured by these girls there and they end up being kidnapped by this organization that captures them
Starting point is 00:09:04 and sells their organization. on the black market. Oh, shit. Through all this crazy. That's already a crazy premise right there. In the middle of auctioning off somebody, because you're alive while your organs are being auctioned off by a group of people. Earthquake happens and the building collapses.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And then there's certain people trying to get out the building, and then it kind of leads into other things. And it's kind of a wild show so far. Oh, wow. I'm in. That's a lot of shit going on, Philip. I know. Yeah, and it's one of those, so far, I don't know who to root for. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Because you get introduced to the first guy, the opening scene is a guy, propositioning a girl. He wants to make sure that she's a virgin and she's a high schooler, so you already like this guy's a piece of shit. Jesus Christ. And then it turns out the girl is, turns out the girl is part of this organization that kidnaps people and steals the organs. Then the guy, they try to, they reveal him to be a cop.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And then he kind of gets on his high moral. You guys are wrong for what you're doing. Totally. Overlooking the fact that he was propositioning what he thought was a teenage girl. Oh. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's one of those, like, I don't think there's going to be a lot of people I'm going to be rooting for in this show. Karma's a bitch, huh? Yeah, it's just crazy. Like, he's, when he thought she was a virgin in high school girl, he was like, I'll pay you $1,000, and then she's like,
Starting point is 00:10:50 well, I'm not quite a virgin. And then she tells this dark story while she's not a virgin, he's like, oh, 80 bucks. Jesus. The B is for bargain. So I think I'm going to stick with that I think it's eight
Starting point is 00:11:06 Maybe 10 episodes But they're like 30 minute episodes They kind of go by pretty fast That's on Paramount Plus But my cool of the week is I waited till it finished So I can binge it Loki
Starting point is 00:11:18 Oh that's the one I see to watch I got one more episode to go Brian Yeah If you keep hearing That it's the best show Marvel's put out As far as their series it damn sure is
Starting point is 00:11:32 and the finale was amazing if they wanted they wanted to if they wanted to say this is it for Loki this is the end of his journey they can do that but if they were like this is just the beginning of his journey
Starting point is 00:11:48 they can do that too they have to turn it into 15 sequels well I think what you're saying the other day Phil I think they're going to after we only get Deadpool next year and they're going to take along. Sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Like a reboot. Are they going to do a reboot and then come back a little bit later, you think? Well, I know there have been some firing of writers and one of the directors of their upcoming movie left and there's going to be some shuffling of some schedules. So I think there. We had like four more movies in the slot that were like, put a chicken at it. and make her gay and make her gay.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I forgot what I was going to say now. That was the South Park reference. Philip, you got us, Philip. There was something else that they were doing.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh, I think from what I kind of looks like they might be going more of a mature content with their product. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I hope so. Like, I like the idea of this ever expanding universe and you pick out little Marvel characters that, you know, it didn't get a whole lot of play.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But if they didn't get a whole lot of play in the comics, it was probably for a reason. There may be a reason. Stick with your Spider-Man, X-Men Avengers stuff. Well, they're coming out with something. They started a new studio, Sun-Divage about Marvel Spotlight. And these are going to be characters that are in the MCU,
Starting point is 00:13:26 but you don't necessarily have to watch everything to know these characters. Well, that's cool. Do an origin story for him. If it's a character that we don't know about, I don't need him in another movie. Give me another movie with just him. Sure. And how he got to where he is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:41 I honestly think they should do less of the series and do more of these, like they did Werewolf by Night, like these little one-off hour-long episode. Yeah, kind of introducing the characters. You know, this character's in the MCU, but we're not going to give you a 15 episode series and a bunch of movies to let you know he's in the MCU
Starting point is 00:14:07 just take this little hour-long episode and here you go. That's cool. You could go for that, man. But I think as far as like comic book stuff, I think after, I think they got Deadpool and then on the D.C. side, after Aquaman, which I'm,
Starting point is 00:14:28 hearing that they're just putting Aquaman out and it's we're rebooting after that. And I think that it's going to be a while for DC has anything maybe a year or almost a year. So. All right. Let's go back to the like X-Men days. What made it successful. Sure. I mean, it was a little bit cheesy, but it's like, okay, let's take a superhero. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Throw them into a real world situation and make it like real. Then learn about that. Maybe they'll do that, you know? I think they should. Yeah, I'd like to see John Barrenthal back as the Punisher. He's coming back. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Well, cool. I'm happy. I mean, that's where Marvel did their best work. I thought it was like in Deer Devil season one and two. Yeah, but then we got in my season one and two. Yeah. What's that? Was there two seasons?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Byron fist? Yeah. Fun fact, there was a second season. Well. And then Jessica, just good. Yeah, but Jessica Jones, season one was amazing. Season two was not so amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Kind of a drop-off. I don't even think I ever watched season two. You're okay. You're okay. Yeah. And as much as I agree with you, Lance, on John Bernda's The Punisher, that first season of the Punisher
Starting point is 00:15:56 was not amazing best well yeah maybe they'll make up for him and of course correct he's great and daredevil and then it yeah sort of fell off yeah just kind of watching i'm not scared i'm not scared i'm not i think i'm not scared either i know i think it's a great idea taking some time and restructuring things and reschedule of things and maybe there was some writers that need to be fired maybe some directors need to let me You never know. I'm sure there's a lot of people that need you have fired.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Let's take the biggest franchise on the planet and let it circle the drain. Ayah, aye, aye, aye. But that's all I got. Loki, Bargain, and the curse. All right. Well, yeah, AJ and I watched a nice heartwarming. I'm sure you've already noticed, Brian.
Starting point is 00:16:54 We're working at a few Christmas movies even before the Christmas. season. So that's my excuse to throw in a couple of action and horror-related Christmas into the 31 days, but 31 days. Yeah, we got to, it starts on Thanksgiving, man. All right, so
Starting point is 00:17:11 we want a nice... I hope Mariah Carrie haunt you when she dies. Hey, I'll take young Mariah Carey any day in the week, man. Hell, I'll take old Moriah. I'm not picky.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I don't hear that fucking song anymore. We watched a nice heartwarming Cameron Crow directed film the other night. Almost Famous. You guys seen that one? Love that movie. Yeah, it's a great. Great movie.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I love it. Great movie. Great movie, but boy, did it get me in the mood for a parody, a mockumentary, if you will, of a rock and roll band, and that was my cool of the week, which is this is Spinal Tap. There you go.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Which we are finally, allegedly going to be giving a sequel next year. What do you guys think about that? Is everybody still alive? They are. They are. Everyone is still, well,
Starting point is 00:18:13 except the drummer, but remember, if you watch the documentary, they went through like three drummers because they were just like, spontaneously combust. Well, they were playing the drums.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And they'd have to get a new one. I forgot about that. I mean, I don't know how I feel about a sequel. I watch it, but sometimes when these sequels are like this far apart, I don't even know if humor would even hit the same. And I'm kind of on the same boat as Phil. I didn't even know some of these guys were alive still. They're alive and Meathead is again going to direct it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Rob Reiner, you know, so there is. that. So it's going to pick up where it left off. But I got some fucking classics in his inventory. He does. Think of some of the jokes they could do, guys. Think about all these old rockers.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They're trudging through additional tours. Like, this is our final tour. No, this is our final tour. No, this is our farewell tour. And then I went and saw Genesis and like Phil Collins literally sat in a chair. and sang the entire time. So see, they could do a riff on that. They could do a riff on Ozzy.
Starting point is 00:19:33 What are you going to do? They could do a riff on Ozzy on like his 28th farewell tour. They could do a riff on the Rolling Stones still touring, you know. I think that this is like an old rock band touring that hadn't toured in like 20 years or something like that. I think the possibility is going to do another tiny stonehenge and then they get like glassed on. I think there's going to be a stonehenge joke in there somewhere. I think there's going to be a, oh, but this hearing aid goes to 11. That's got to be in there somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:20:09 And I mean, guys, let's face it. A lot of these rockers are like getting together again, even though they fucking hate each other, right? So like you had Pink Floyd, they got together for like one show, and then they started fucking yelling at each other and refused to do the, oh, and look at guns and roe. Roses, right? God's and Roses. You got a different fucking lead singer a lot of the time because Axel Rose is hiding in his house. I saw him when they got back together and dude, it sounded like a record.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They were clean as hell. Well, maybe Spital Taff will be clean as hell, man. Let's give him a shot, man. But yeah, this movie's a classic. The original is an absolute classic dude. Like when he's doing that slow piano song and Rob Rinder's go, that's very, pretty. It's a, it's a departure from what you usually do. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:00 yes, it's a bit of Baytobin and Bach. I call it a mock, you know, or Mozart, Mozart and Bach. I call it a mock. And then he's like, it's very beautiful sounding. It's quite a departure from your normal heavy stuff. What do you call this
Starting point is 00:21:16 piece? He's like, I call this one, lick my love pump. You know, so I don't know, man. I think I think it has promise. Will you guys be there at the theater to see Spinaltap too? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'll definitely go see it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Not at true, but not that you're talking about it. I'm just kind of like, what audiences is this for? It's for me, that's for sure. It's definitely for our friend Jack. Jack Falvey, I know he's going to be there. Hell, he talked about it like three years ago. I don't, I just now thinking about it, I don't see it as, I don't see it as being in the theater. Oh, you think it's going to be a direct-to-video.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah. I could go for that. Maybe do a Bill and Ted type thing where it gets direct-to-video and a limited theater release or something. Yeah, because, I mean, they've been saying they're supposed to do Space Balls, too. I could see that. Oh, God. With Star Wars. They're going to have Kylo Ran in it?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Anybody. I want to see the scene. with Obi-Wan and Anakin in a big fight and then make that into space balls. That would be great. I'm sure it's coming, Philip. I'm sure it's coming. All right. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That's cool of the week. That's cool of the week. Indy, got any news, Brian? Yes, we do. We haven't had news on here for a couple weeks now. Let's see. still a strike. Strikes over.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, all of it? Thank God. Strike. Well, I don't think people were clear. The actor's strike is over pending a vote that ends, I think, January. They're back to work, but they're back to work, but come. I don't know if I have my facts 100% straight, but I think, depending on this vote, they could go back. on strike again.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Ah, so they're like Congress. They basically pass a government spending bill for like a fucking month so they can go back and fuck around again a month later. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay, cool. Makes sense. Perfect. All right, but we do have some news. Netflix
Starting point is 00:23:44 has renewed Black Mirror for a seventh season. Yes. Let's hope it's good. I hope. Lance, you are... I can't fuck this show up. No more, no more striking vipers, please. You were a fan of Bodies, Bodies, Bodies? Yes, big time.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Oh, bad. Director, I'm going to butcher her name, Helena Regin, and A-24, teaming me up again, for erotic thrillers called Baby Girl, starring... Erotic thrillers. Erotic thrillers. Erotic thrillers starring Nicole Kidman. Okay. You remember that was a thing?
Starting point is 00:24:25 like in the late 90s. Yeah. Eyes wide shut. Nicole Kidman. Erotic theory. Right. Oh my God. That was peak, what's her name?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Okay. From basic instinct. All right. Question. Sharon Stone. Question. That was peak Sharon Stone time. Brian. Brian, question. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Are we finally going to have the question answered about Pete Davidson? Is he going to do full front? and so we'll know the real reason all those hot chicks staged stage it. I don't need that question answered. Yeah, I think I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm just going to assume what they're saying is true. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Also, I feel like she was maybe being a little bit generous. Could she... Guess she what? Yeah, wasn't that when, like,
Starting point is 00:25:25 Ariana Grande had just broken up with him or something? Yeah. He's probably trying to throw a little something good her way. Throw him a buzz. I've heard quite a few women that he's dated has all agreed. He looks like one of those wiry little porn star guys with a massive dong. That wouldn't surprise me. Probably what's going on.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I know it's not his raccoon-like looks that he sports all the time. Or his heroin eyes. Him and Dane to Han, man. Right. They got the same dermatologist. Yes. Okay. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Or heroin dealer, whatever. We have a Cape Fear series in development from Nick Otosa. Nick Nelty. Martin Scorsese and some guy named Steve Spielberg. Who's that? Never heard of him. You guys in for Cape Fear? If those guys are involved, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Okay. Why not? So, when I'm casting on this yet, is this still in the works, I assume? Yeah, in the works.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. I mean, De Niro, De Niro is still pretty funny. Yeah, but he's 90. Yeah, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:26:53 he's like super fucking, but he's a scary 90. He's doing, like, bad grandpa movies. Right. Yeah. which are mostly better than I expected. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:07 This news, actually, this news broke a few hours ago as we're recording. Melissa Barrera, who plays Samantha in the screen movies, the main girl. Let go. We'll no longer be a part of the franchise based on some social media posts about Israel and Palestine. Canceled! why everybody suddenly has an opinion about this shit. I don't get it. Now, what I think is interesting
Starting point is 00:27:35 is I watched, you guys familiar with the Dead Meat podcast, YouTube channel, he does kill counts. He went on live because... Frightmare a few times. Yeah, he did a live stream earlier today that I watched because he's kind of close to the
Starting point is 00:27:52 production crew and some of the stars. And he did some digging and he can't find anything that she posted wrong and he brought up a good point that if if you posted something
Starting point is 00:28:08 on the internet and try to delete it it's still going to be there it's the internet right right so where is it what did she supposedly post do we know that they said it was some anti-Semitic stuff and some other things but the only
Starting point is 00:28:24 thing he said he could find is like support of a ceasefire and stuff Like, you know, stuff that is not... It's just kind of weird that there's some allegations being thrown. Yeah. It's probably very anti-Semitic, and if I had to guess. You think so?
Starting point is 00:28:45 But he made a good point. Like, if you posted something, someone's going to screenshot it the moment you posted, it's going to be there. Yeah. So I think... That seems to be the way if it's going, man. I don't get it. But whatever. I see one.
Starting point is 00:29:00 of two outcomes going is she's going to be back on the movie they're going to issue an apology that this was a mistake it was overblown or I don't think we get a scream seven oh come on that's or to pay the way what what's your name the star what story are they going to tell because she was the main one she was the one seeing her dead father and all this stuff and now she's just gone.
Starting point is 00:29:32 True. That's true. And it would be so stupid, right, if they just ride her out of it. Like, you know, all a sudden you have the other people showing up and like, man, what a shame, what happened to her? You know, that really sucked. You know, like some off-screen death that they talk about.
Starting point is 00:29:48 That'd be terrible. Fucking Olivia, God damn it. What's the Wednesday girl? Jenna Ortega. Jenna Ortega. They'll start some new shit with her, man. We're not allowed to post pictures of her in her Wednesday. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:30:00 The horror turns. Come on. She's not even underage. What the hell? Yeah, this is getting out of control, guys. Come on. I just think it's not going to be a well-received choice if they do the movie or not, because just go look at Neff Campbell not being in a movie.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And they just like, oh, Sidney's doing fine with her husband. That's how they bring her up. And nobody, a lot of people didn't like the last movie. I didn't. I like the one before it. I didn't care too much for this last one. But then do you... It's all right. I've never been super invested in the screen franchise, to be honest. It was, it was I. But then do you back the money truck up and bring Neff Campbell back?
Starting point is 00:30:47 If she'll come back, I mean, does she want to? From what I understand, it was a money dispute. She was the least paid, one of the least paid people on the cast. The fucking money truck. What does she? done lately. I think she needs to do anything. But if I'm the star of your movie... You've got a money truck are you looking for. But if I'm the star of your movie,
Starting point is 00:31:12 six build is not getting paid the same as me. That's like when Iron Man One came out and Terrence Howard was getting paid more than Robert Downey Jr. Oh, come on. But what did he do? He took a fucking percentage of the profits of the movies and made more than every
Starting point is 00:31:31 anybody else. True, true. Yeah, smart guy, but I just seen a whole video on Terrence Howard still crying about it. Isn't Terrence Howard like a flat earther or something like that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I don't know. I know he... I thought I heard that. He got in some dispute with some... It was a rapper or R&B singer about his music being better. And I was like, you fucking do music? And then I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:32:03 He does like jazz music. No, he does jazz. He has a jazz band. Okay. He's getting hard out here for a pimp. But I see this Melissa Barrera thing kind of getting resolved. I just, I just, I'm not going to speak on the situation because I don't know all the facts and stuff. but just from what I've seen, it just kind of seems like if you don't have
Starting point is 00:32:34 concrete evidence of her saying this or posting this. Well, and on top of that, I guarantee you that whatever it was that she said is not anything worse than any of the young people that are posting this stuff right now anyway. Yeah. I can even possibly see in maybe some of her castmates standing behind her. Yeah, I'm sure. It says, allegedly the quote from her was
Starting point is 00:33:05 Gaza is currently being treated like a concentration camp, end of sentence. That's it. That's it? Yeah, that's it. That's all they said she said. I didn't know that. So,
Starting point is 00:33:19 if we're no longer allowed to even make statements like that, I start wondering what kind of country were living. force her out for something else. This is a... Maybe she wouldn't give head... Maybe she wouldn't give head to the producer. Or one of the directors. How about that?
Starting point is 00:33:38 If you're listening to our podcast, fuck you. We'll bring back me too. Why? Fuck them. Well, if they fired her for not giving them head, fuck him. Well, allegedly, Lance. You can't. Allegedly in your head 20 seconds ago. Yeah. These are not...
Starting point is 00:33:56 These are not facts, listeners. I can see all of a sudden our cameras being shut off and everything. FBI raids the house. I'm kind of doing it to see if that happens, to be honest with you. Except in Alaska, they ain't coming there. Because they're already here. But I see it getting resolved in some kind of way. Because I, I,
Starting point is 00:34:26 all right Honestly I don't think I don't think I'm interested in the screen movie if they're just gonna start all over and just give us some random ass story out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah Offscreen story about her Yeah that that would be dumb That would be dumb There was one thing That I meant to bring up a few weeks ago That I cannot have found Oh here's something real quick
Starting point is 00:34:55 We talked about Jordan Peel remaking the people under the stairs I'd go for that that's one of my favorite movies of the early 90s. Officially happening. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:11 What was that Phil? I don't know how I'm not like thrilled about it. More recycling of all the movies. I'll watch it. And there was one more thing. I can't pull up the post I originally had but we're getting
Starting point is 00:35:30 a It Follows sequel called They Follow. Of course we are. Now, that's interesting. It's a good idea. No, interesting. He said, of course, we are. But that movie came out 10 years ago. Has it been 10 years?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah. Holy crap. We're also getting... Time flies when you're getting old. We're also getting a Ghost Mester's Frozen Realm or something from what I understand, but maybe we'll talk about that later. So. I love it follows.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think it was a... I think it follows was a great movie. Well, yeah, but it's so easy to get rid of it. Just throw all the fucking plugged-in television sets into the swimming pool and damn, story over. It follows... Do you don't not remember the last scene? Yeah, but that was the dumbest way to get rid of a monster ever. I mean, they didn't get rid of the...
Starting point is 00:36:29 the monster, Lance, that's what I'm saying. The final scene was there walking, holding hands together, and then you see in the background, something's following them. Ooh, okay. Let's see what they do. Did you like the movie or not? It was like an STD, right? That was the...
Starting point is 00:36:44 I don't know. So there shouldn't be a sequel based on that last scene. No, I did not say that. I'm just, I'm saying, of course, there's going to be a day follow. I think there shouldn't be a sequel based on the last movie because I liked it. See, now, I kind of like to see something stand alone, right?
Starting point is 00:37:05 And left alone. Yeah, you're thinking, you mean like spinal tap, Lance? Now, I kind of agree with what Phil's saying, just based on the movie alone, that probably should just leave it alone, but. The only thing they're going to do is fuck it up. Same director. Yeah, the only thing they're going to do is fuck it up. Same cast.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You hit a little bit of... You struck the match and got a little bit of magic. Uh-huh. And you're just going to let it fucking burn now. I guess we'll see. Mm-hmm. Well, see. Now, let's go to trail the park,
Starting point is 00:37:44 because allegedly there's another Ghostbuster movie. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. I don't know what you're alluding to, Lance. Well, let's just... Let's put it this way. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small,
Starting point is 00:37:58 and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what is our first new trailer to talk about tonight? First one is going to be an alleged movie that's coming out called Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Now... I saw a trailer, so I'm pretty sure it's coming out. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 So I'm not even going to get into the cast synopsis director. Sure. We're just going to jump right into it, Lance. You seem to hate this already. No, not at all. I loved the Ghostbusters redo that came out a couple of years ago. I just don't know if I want them to keep going on with this. Because they've, all right?
Starting point is 00:38:40 So I thought they were passing the torch on, right? Like all the way. But you still see the original Ghostbusters showing up, right? And what is this? You've got Ant Man in a Ghostbusters costume? Come on. I thought it was going to be the kids this time. Why not include Paul Rudd?
Starting point is 00:38:55 Sure, why not? He looks like the kid anyway, right? He was the scientist. Okay. I'm sure it's going to be great fun. I don't understand what this frozen world is. Is this like the day after tomorrow type thing where it's like... Well, I'm trying to...
Starting point is 00:39:12 All of a sudden, the whole world freezes. Okay. Trying to jump in here, but you're really not selling me that you're into this. Yeah, I'm excited. I love the last one. It sounds very sarcastic. I love the last one, man. Well, they said the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:28 freezing over is essentially death frozen to death hell is frozen over oh come on that's not what it is oh my gosh it better not be that
Starting point is 00:39:41 I don't know what you want Lance so hell freezes over and the dead walk the earth right is that what it is when there's no more room in hell the dead shall walk the earth there you go
Starting point is 00:39:58 okay well if hell was ever going to run out of room I doubt it man I'm sure they had to make it extra large after this podcast so I don't know what you want Lance it doesn't seem like you're thrilled about the cast the storyline
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'll put it this way I'm in I'll be there I'll be there opening night I'll have my ticket in hand and I'll be there. How about that? Me too. But I can understand it too also. Like, did this movie really need to get made?
Starting point is 00:40:40 You know? Yeah, yeah. I mean, because they kind of, but they kind of killed it on the last one. It came out really good. It's like, all right. Uh-huh. Going to the well too many times, maybe?
Starting point is 00:40:51 I think it should be made because, like you said, they killed it on the first one. They showed you we don't need the original. original Ghostbusters to make a good Ghostbusters movie. Yeah. But they show up in the trailer, Brian? But for how long they showed up in the last movie for like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Okay. And I like that the original Ghostbusters are there. I'm not mad. You got to do a shout out, right? Yeah. Yeah. I do have my doubts. Is this where they go to Silly Town?
Starting point is 00:41:25 You know? Okay. Well, I took it as that last one was What the original cast showing up was like this is officially this is in the same world Sure and I think this one is the passing of the torch Okay, I can see that Hey, you know what? Maybe they do start a new franchise here I like the little girl
Starting point is 00:41:48 I like Wolf Finhardt I like Paul Rudd I there's nobody in this movie that I really hate I like you called him Wolf Finhard I just caught that. You will now and forever be known as Wolf Fitthardt. Wait too, I mean. Wait till we go get his autograph at Frightmare next year. Yeah, I'm going to tell him he signed his name wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Is that not a better name anyway? He's going to make up a name. I love it, yeah. I love it. Let's go with that. All right. believe this was a movie before the strike happens. We had already been talking about it here in a couple weeks, but it has been moved to March 29th.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Okay. Makes sense. On to another one. Lance, can Blumhouse strike again? They'd had Megan. This year. This year we had Megan. Next year we get imaginary.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Right. I don't know, dude. I kept getting Ted vibes from this one. After watching this trailer, it kind of dawned on me. Why hasn't this concept been done before? Great question. Great question. Drop dead Fred.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Well, wasn't there like an evil teddy? Wasn't there a movie, though, with an evil teddy rucksman? Or am I, was that a dream man? Not just the teddy bear aspect of it, but the whole evil. Imaginary friend. friend doesn't exist. Oh, yes, he really does, and he's evil. I mean, I don't...
Starting point is 00:43:36 The trailer didn't really show me anything that I was, like, super excited about, but I think this is going to be a good movie. I think this... I like the concept. Yeah, I think it's not going to be on the level as Megan was this year. Right. But I think it'll be a good movie. And I just like the opening scene.
Starting point is 00:43:59 in the trailer where the little girl's got the scavenger list and she has to do all these things on the list. And I think the bear's name is Chauncey is going to take her to this magical place. And one of the things on the list is, hurt yourself. Then she slams her hand on that nail on the board. So, I mean, if they're going that direction, then I'm all for it. But they're kind of going to PG, Safe for Children type vibe. And I think this movie might fail that way. Yeah, I don't think so, man.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I think they're going with the way you're envisioning, Brian, because, yeah, if the first thing on the list is, you know, it hurt yourself, it can only escalate from there, right? Yeah. So next thing is kill your mommy and daddy, right? And then so on and so forth. So, yeah, there's a lot of promise here. At least it's an original idea, guys, right?
Starting point is 00:44:57 Well, and even giving you in, I mean, it was, let's be honest it wasn't like a great trailer it didn't fucking grab me but just the concept of this little girl slamming her hand into a nail and they give you that in the trailer i mean it better not be the best thing but that was it get there were some goosebumps happening i don't know if i'm like super stoked about it because it's still seems like it has the potential to be really bad hopefully not right yeah but it looks interesting and it is a cool concept i like like you were saying with the imaginary friend thing like i don't know why they haven't done that before i'm kind of going into this how i went into to going to watch megan i thought it was an interesting concept but i didn't expect too much from it and it kind of exceeded my expectations but they knew they had something with Megan. They were they were
Starting point is 00:45:59 pimping that shit out everywhere. Well see I don't know if they did at first. It wasn't until they put that little TikTok out of Megan doing the little dance that got all the attention and then they were like kind of hyping it up more after that so yeah. I don't necessarily
Starting point is 00:46:15 think they even just to pull a stunt like that for a movie that's coming out that's not a thing that's going to happen with this one. Yeah. Well remember Brian remember the stuff they were doing before smile,
Starting point is 00:46:30 like where they would have somebody at a baseball game just randomly, like doing that creepy smile from ear to ear, sitting right behind home plate. Well, maybe they will do something cool. People bring a teddy bears that turn around and look at the people next to them in the stands. Yeah, creepy as ill. Wouldn't that be great?
Starting point is 00:46:48 People just planting, what's the bear that I said is name, Chauncey, planting little chaucsies everywhere that move on their own? Yeah. Wouldn't that be great, man? All right. Sounds like we're all somewhat in different levels interested in seeing a movie.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I think so. Another March release. Another March release, March 8th. That seems like a weird time. Happy birthday to me. That's my birthday. That's about spring break era, right? Somewhere right in there.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So maybe they're shooting for that. Otherwise, it seems like a weird date to release. But yeah. Yeah. And on to our final, not trailer, but teaser. Terrifier 3. It was a pretty long teaser. It was a good two minutes, right? I don't care what nobody says. He fucking murdered that girl. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 People are seeing the comments online. Did you think he killed that girl? I'm like, there's fucking blood everywhere and he's eating milk and cookies. Right. Did you not see Terrifier or Terrifier too? Yeah, he tried to kill that little boy at the end. He was like trying to... Wasn't he trying to eat him too? Art would do any...
Starting point is 00:48:11 I wouldn't put anything past art, man. Art the clown is a... Still sort of in the works by big fucking horror figure, man. He's a badass villain. Yeah. I think going on the Christmas route's pretty cool, Brian. Yeah, I... I like that.
Starting point is 00:48:32 But question, I heard, do you have complete faith in the director? Yes, I do. Well, this is the three-hour thing, you mean? No, because I think he's said something on the lines of. He's doing something that you wouldn't expect with this third one. And that might be divisive towards fans. Probably making Art the Count, Art the Clown Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's something I wouldn't expect. Do you trust him enough to... I mean... If you look at the poster, he's literally wearing Santa Claus's face. Oh, he kills Santa Claus. I mean, I think he's done enough
Starting point is 00:49:20 with these first two movies that... Right? I'm all on board. I mean, this guy not only directs, but he does the makeup effects. He's the writer. He's the producer. He's a cinematographer. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:37 At least give him a shot. I think we're going to get more of the same. This does come out. It is, it looks like a Christmas movie, but it will be premiering in theaters October 25th. That's cool. Close enough to Christmas, right? Well, and that whole holiday season runs together,
Starting point is 00:49:58 which is why the nightmare before Christmas did so well. You know? Yep. I don't like my... Tim Burton. I don't like my holiday movies mixing. I do. I know. But it happens every year.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And whether you love it or hate it... I'm looking at the cast. It looks like Lauren LaBere, who plays Siena, which I thought she was fantastic in that second one. The lead girl. She's returning. But is the little girl, the little art... the clown girl back. That's what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:50:33 If you do, you're going to have to recast her, because that girl's probably aged in the past couple years. True, true. Yeah. That won't be as creepy that way, right? Unless you, I don't know. No, no, no, CGID aging, please. No, I was just going to say. Yeah, just throw makeup on her and just go with her. Yeah, just let her age. see what she comes to out to. She could be the
Starting point is 00:51:04 next one, although it's not like super old. All right. I think she's going anywhere. I want to fairly say, I think all three trailers we looked at, we're all kind of looking forward to. Yeah, I think so, man. I think so. I'll even check out Paul Rudd
Starting point is 00:51:24 in a Ghostbusters costume. How about that? He wasn't in a costume. He was in a winter, a Ghostbusters winter jacket, which I thought looked kind of good. Maybe he'll, uh, maybe he'll, uh, maybe he'll shrink and grow to supersize or something. Now, I was just about to say, I kind of didn't like he did the giant man.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, laugh. Like, this is not Marvel, Paul. Right, right. All right. Yeah, well. They got some good comedy in it, man. It'll be good. Yeah, well, we'll all be there. All right.
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Starting point is 00:52:26 What the hell Yeah, we need more feedback, guys Well, not awesome them send us more feedback and I mean well I need to Brian where do most people tend to interact with this is it is it on X or Twitter or whatever because Facebook we're not getting the interaction we used to get and I think that's I think a lot of that's the Facebook rules where they're like pulling shit like well we talked about this before yeah I admit that could be a thing but I also
Starting point is 00:53:02 The most interaction I see on the other platforms is people not really commenting, just liking something or sharing it. Right, right, right. Even if I, like, clearly ask a question, somebody will like it. Maybe if we'll do a poll. I mean, when's the last time we did a poll? Keeping my poll off social media. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's how you get canceled.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I was stopping myself so hard from when you were like, where do we get the most interaction? I wanted to be like, in my pants. Aye, aye, aye. Sorry. I was like, no, I'm not going to make that joke because it's crass. That's okay, because I'm made it for you. We'll figure something out.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Remember when we posted that one poster of the Jessica Beal, Texas chainsaw? and it got like, you know, over 200 comments. Oh, the art poster? He's got a nice ass. Yeah, how did we manage that? And we don't get that every week. That just happens, like, there was one post, I think it was for one of our other accounts,
Starting point is 00:54:16 for, I think, for the action returns. I think Machine Gun Kelly was going to be in a new movie. And then there was all these Machine Gun Kelly people that were liking and resharing the post. and it had like 500 likes. I think it just depends on what the topic is. It's only get caught up in somebody else's ad campaign. Art, help us out, buddy.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, maybe we need to do hashtag, hashtag Art the Clown Forever, or something like that, right? I notice, I see some people, I'm not going to call them out, but I see some people hashtaging stuff that doesn't even have anything to do with what they're posting just to get people to come. Oh, my God. Hashtag Taylor Swift. And I don't want that kind of drama. I don't want them coming after us. Don't fuck with the Swifties, man. But anyway,
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Starting point is 00:55:37 But here we are. On to our featured attractions. This week, we take a look at the brand new Thanksgiving and 1981's Home Suite Home, not Motley Crew. Also known as Slashor in the House. Oh, it's got two different names. why does that surprise me so we'll start with that one home sweet home
Starting point is 00:56:33 and slasher in the house is that it yeah that's very very original that probably makes more sense as a title even though it's not as a title well it kind of wouldn't have made sense being that he has a tattoo of the movie on his
Starting point is 00:56:49 hand and opening credits which was clearly just an ink sticker Yeah. Yeah. At Los Angeles and our top story continues to be
Starting point is 00:56:57 the intensive police drag net for an armed and dangerous escaped mental patient. 26-year-old Jay Jones
Starting point is 00:57:03 escaped from the Hobart State Hospital for the criminally insane last night after killing an attendant and leaving a guard in critical condition. Jones was committed
Starting point is 00:57:12 to Hobarth 8 years ago after a lengthy and well-publicized trial following the bludgeoning death of both of his parents. We talked with a state police department
Starting point is 00:57:20 spokesman. Okay. Fair enough. Great, great. description. Director is Netti Pena, also known for They're Not Green.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Well, they need to be. What color are they? No shit. Writer is Thomas Bush, also known for sound editing on Evil Dead 2, so push that. Oh, that's some bona fides. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Some trivia. At least one scene in this film, the hit and run at the beginning, was filmed in Porter Ranch, California, approximately 30 miles from Los Angeles. I think that a lot of this film, wasn't this film close to that real ranch that they based the one on
Starting point is 00:58:06 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in? I'm pretty sure it was. Oh, was it? Yeah, I think so. I know what you're talking. Yeah, the one where, what's his name was hanging out, the fucking killer.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Manson? Yeah, Manson. I think the Manson family was really, really, close to where this maybe was found. What is the name of that ranch? It's like, it's going to bother me, yeah. Art, art from Kelly, help us out here, you know, or Pedro, Pedro probably knows. Pedro's yelling at us right now. Oh, I'm sure. Damn it. All right, anyway, home sweet home. Lance, what you think about it? I don't know what I was watching here. I mean, this was, their best piece of trivia was that one of the scenes happened
Starting point is 00:58:55 Near California? Yeah. Okay. Well, look, here's how the movie starts off, right? There's a guy sitting in a car. Oh, that's where he got the station wagon. He pulled a guy. I got better trivia than that.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Let's hear it, man. Jake Stearnfield. Jake Stearnfield. You guys may have known him back in the day as Body by Jake. Okay. The infomercial guy. That was him? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:23 No, fucking way. It was no way. No, no knockoff. He is the uncle of Haley Steinfeld, who is Kate Bishop in the Hawkeye series for the MCU.
Starting point is 00:59:37 What? And the little girl, I think her name is Venza Shaw. Okay. Was the main girl in the hocus pocus movie, the teenage girl.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Mind blown. Look at. Mind. Thank you, Brian. You're welcome. This was her acting debut. Was in Home Sweet Home. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Well, there's some way better trivia than this one scene happened near Los Angeles. Lance. What do you think about the movie? Okay, man, I mean, anytime you've got a movie that starts out where you've got a dude sitting in a car and he's opening a beer and he turns around this muscle-bound dude walks up and he's like, hey man, want a beer? And then the dude just fucking grabs him, yanks him out of the car, gets in the car and proceeds to barrel down the highway and run over a poor little old lady with her sack of groceries.
Starting point is 01:00:41 So, before he shot up Angel Dust into his tongue. Is that what that was? Angel Dust? Well, they were saying that on the radio. Yeah, on the radio, they said, beware of this man to escape from mental institution, armed and dangerous and he is believed to be under the influence of angel dust it and how the fuck would they know that brian because it was in the script ah okay now you sounded just like the radio guy in that thing you could have totally done that part which is probably what they did they grabbed their neighbor to be like hey can you just read this line for me real quick and real quick it was
Starting point is 01:01:18 spawn ranch spawn ranch there it is there you go okay so i think i think thought that I've Skid Walker Ridge. As soon as the guy runs over the old lady I kind of know
Starting point is 01:01:32 what we're in for here but this fucking bizarre cast of characters you've got you've got the little kid
Starting point is 01:01:39 running around that I think he thought he was wearing kiss makeup but he really looked just more like a really low
Starting point is 01:01:45 low budget mime I think that's what he was going for is it yeah I mean he does magic
Starting point is 01:01:53 and other stuff later I think he was a multi-talented entertainer. He was a multi-talented nerd. You know what? Any guy who plays an electric guitar anywhere he wants to because he's literally wearing a battery-operated speaker on his back, an amplifier, hey, he's got my vote, man.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And then when he's wearing all that heavy shit and he can outrun a really athletic-looking dude that's brought his girlfriend. And everybody, just the lines were so cheesy. Hey man, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna kill you. I'd like to see you catch me. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You know, then you got, you know, the dad that looks like,
Starting point is 01:02:35 that looks like he was like, you know, a porno actor like 40 years ago. And he's over here and, you know, pulling, getting his chick, his, I guess, girlfriend, not life or whatever, getting the stepmother on the bed. And, you know, pulling her shirt down enough just for you to barely see the nipples, you know, and then you quickly go to the next scene. She had some admirable boobies. That she did. That she did. And then, of course, you know, you've got the two chicks.
Starting point is 01:03:03 They get in the car, you know, and they're going out to get wine or whatever because somebody forgot the red wine and they run into these cops. I mean, dude, this movie was nothing but a bunch of setups for porno movies with no payoff. Basically, this was like the pizza delivery guy gets to the door and then they edit. It was 1981. A lot of guys had mustaches. Yeah, but man, I don't know. I mean, it was a fun movie to watch.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I'm not mad that we watched it. It's definitely no classic. It's just, I thought it was a lot more about the characters and the kookiness of the characters than it was the actual kills. Because, you know, yeah, I mean, there were some, you know, I guess decent kills, at least, you know, this was before they were able to ruin. it with CGI and stuff like that where they actually had real fake they actually had real fake blood
Starting point is 01:03:56 instead of a computer generated blood you know so you gotta give your hat off to that sorry to interrupt you question on where you're talking about the special effects and the fake blood and stuff okay so the girl that hit her head on the rock now maybe the copy that I was watching was just really shitty because I couldn't hardly see anything in the dark did they stop motion that blood running down that rock? I'm almost sure they did. Why would you do some shit like? What's the point?
Starting point is 01:04:34 All right. That wasn't my question. Well, there definitely, yeah, there definitely weren't like any likeable characters in this movie. And it's almost kind of like, I don't know, dude, the killer was so over the top. Like, he would start chasing around and just start laughing. uncontrollably. It's almost like... Well, yeah, but this was kind of one of those weird movies
Starting point is 01:04:58 where I was actually literally reading for the killer in every single case because I wanted every single one of these family members to die because everyone of fucking sucked. Even the little fucking kid. Even the little fucking kid. She tore up the goddamn turkey and then hit under the table. Nobody was feeding her.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I know that feeling. You got to keep wearing. on random family members to get back with some damn gas and they're not showing up. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Somebody opened a can of peas like 50 times.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yeah, one can of peas to feed like eight people, seriously. Really? What the fuck out of weird with you? And what's up? I don't even once peas anyway. Okay, so what's up? What's up with the chick
Starting point is 01:05:44 that was playing the guitar singing, Bessa me mucho, Bessa vizzo. That was terrible. She allegedly was one of the guys' girlfriend that didn't speak English but clearly by the way she was sounding
Starting point is 01:06:00 she didn't speak Spanish either either she definitely can't sing it was it was definitely a motley crew I don't know yeah I don't know if I really love this movie because it was so silly
Starting point is 01:06:17 that it was just like a fun watch I don't know if I just really, you know, hated this movie because everyone in it was so hateable. But it was an interesting pick, Brian. I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say about this. Is this like a lost classic that I'm just missing the point here? Was there something, you know, going on here that I wasn't aware of or what? That's lost. I don't know if it was a classic.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Was it a made for TV movie? Because the ratio it was in, on the copy I had, was just a movie. just like television screen size ratio? It might be. I don't know. But this came out during that time when it was not the 70s, but not quite the 80s. Yeah. Like that in-between time.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Yeah. The end of Gen X. I'll go next. I actually had a good time with it just because it was so fucking silly. Body by Jake was just fucking over the top. Like that opening scene. Did you know that that was before the movie started? I sure did.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah, I did. Okay. That would have made it much more fun. But that opening scene when the guy was like, hey, you want a beer? And he's just... He just starts laughing. And nobody even thought to pull him over or chase him after he hit that old lady. That's like Phil said, knockoff Incredible Hulk.
Starting point is 01:07:47 no that guy's running around killing people running over old ladies because you would have think with that giant smear of blood on the windshield somebody got to build them over
Starting point is 01:07:58 that's kind of what I was thinking man but I had fun with it just how bad it was filmed how unlikable the characters were right the ADR was incredible
Starting point is 01:08:11 because there was complete scenes where people were talking but their mouths aren't moving Okay, so was this house so far out in the country, guys, that it was off the grid? Because they kept talking about having to go get more gasoline for the... What were they talking about, Philip? They didn't have more gasoline for the generator and like...
Starting point is 01:08:32 Is that the point they were off the grid? No, I said when the power goes out, it goes out for hours. Yeah, and the generator will power the lights, but not the TV. which makes no sense. As soon as they said that, I was like, what's the fuck on a TV? I mean, I know it's which was, Jesus Christ, man.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Driving that guy crazy because he needed to watch the game because he had money on it. And this is the same guy that throughout the entire movie kept saying he had business. He had business to get to. Did they ever say what that was? No. He just had some business to talk about.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Somebody had to go get gas. He was like, hurry back. I was like, I was saying, I assumed it was a cocaine deal. They made a joke early in the movie about, I'll have a beer in a Xanax or make that a double Xanax. I'm like, you're not fooling anybody. You guys were not on Xanax when you made this movie. The one lady that showed her boobies,
Starting point is 01:09:32 I think she joked about killing somebody, about putting her stick or something. Oh, over and over again. Oh, boy to you. Oh, boy to you. It's like, what kind of Thanksgiving is this? I know. he comes back, I'm just going to kill him. My favorite kill, though. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'm going to get him. My favorite kill by far is the guy working under the hood and embodied by Jake comes and just and just dives on top of the hood. Because what made it so great was that... Why did he die? What made it great was that was clearly a dummy under the hood. Right. Then it cuts camera angles and it's just a guy kind of going, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm like, man, I don't know if you could actually kill somebody like that. If you could, it was pretty amazing to watch. Right. But, yeah, the ADR was crazy because Jake, I'm just going to call him Jake, because he's always bodyheaderic. There was times, because he had this, I guess it was supposed to be his crazy person laugh that he did throughout the entire movie. There was times when he's not even
Starting point is 01:10:48 looking like he's laughing or mouth moving or anything and then he's just like, there was. That's good. There was a whole little half of a scene. Now, okay, so I found this movie on YouTube. Yes. I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Because I couldn't really find it anywhere else. Right. And the full movies on YouTube in multiple places. But there was a whole scene where it was so dark and the two girls are talking. Mm-hmm. And I couldn't not see anything. Ooh. My coffee wasn't that bad.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Terrible. I don't know what scene you're talking about. It's like they're walking into the, they just walk into blackness. Yeah. They walk in some kind of void or something. I was like, oh, man. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:11:44 that's the kind of movie this was. It's definitely one of those, like the budget was low and they had to work with what they had. I guess. I think why the characters are so wacky is because clearly there was no time to rehearse anything.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Like the one lady who we all agree clearly doesn't speak Spanish. I'm going to say she arrived on set found out who her character was. They gave her guitar. Do you play guitar? No, I don't. Well, it doesn't matter. Here.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Oh, by the way, you speak Spanish, but I don't. It doesn't matter. I don't know. She used a couple of Spanish phrases that made sense in there. Yeah, like, I was, I didn't, I didn't doubt that she spoke Spanish. I absolutely doubt that she plays the guitar
Starting point is 01:12:33 and sings. I think she's just pretty. Right. But I did find out that the guy, that that's the mime slash magician slash guitarist. He actually does all that stuff in real life. Well, they're, oh, yeah. Had a history of especially doing, being a magician. So that was actually him doing that stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Those two good tricks. He was born 20 years too early, man. He could have been on America's Got Talent. Damn it. Oh, he should have shown up on the gong show. I bet he has shown up on the gong show. once they're fun. But I have fun with it.
Starting point is 01:13:12 There's not too many, you know, outside of the recent movie, Thanksgiving movie we're going to talk about next. Or what? Thanksgiving, blood rage. Right. There's not too many Thanksgiving horror movies. Does this one count as a Thanksgiving horror movie? I mean, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Well, yeah. It took place of Thanksgiving. I mean, you know. know. They had one can of and a gigantic turkey that the little fucking brat tore up before anybody could eat it. I can't believe her. We're waiting on this asshole to bring gas
Starting point is 01:13:52 back and then somebody else goes and gets gas and now we got to wait for them. And then the chicks go to get the red wine. I can't believe they thought the little guitar dude like murdered that chick. And everything, and then I just thought of it, Lance, you're completely right. There is nobody to like.
Starting point is 01:14:14 How rape you were them cops? I totally, dude. It was like... He's got the flash slight right on the cleavage. I swear to God. After that talking at the end, maybe they'll still be stuck out here when we come back.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And then Arthur really started. I was like, whoa, whoa. It was this movie, this movie was literally like 12 clipped together, four-minute vignettes of the opening scenes, the setup scenes of 1980s porno movies.
Starting point is 01:14:45 But no payoff. We got to see no bush and no penetration. You know, the lead up and that's it. You might not be wrong with that assessment. That's about the production value we had here. Jesus Christ. I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:02 who wants to pay to see that shit? You know? You talk about the ultimate cock tease. Come on. And you guys have to get it. There's not one adult chick in this movie. You wouldn't have wanted to see naked, am I right?
Starting point is 01:15:21 They were all pretty hot. Yes, very much so. You know? Well, except the old lady who got run over. Okay. And that might have been somebody in a costume, like in a wig. No, that was all that. Because before he hit her, they freeze-framed on her face.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. Oh, that was terrible. Okay, so here's part of the problem with that, because that was the hit. That's all you saw. Right. Yeah. For a slasher movie, a lot of the kills were kind of weak and tame.
Starting point is 01:15:58 That's what I thought maybe it was a TV movie. Well, and I don't know if it was they weren't showing it because they were trying to get a rating or if they weren't showing it because they didn't have the money or the knowledge to make that happen. I'm kind of leading towards the second one. I don't think they, I don't think they were showing anything because they didn't have anything to show. Yeah. I could see that.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah, I could see that. I mean, because that was like super fake blood on the windshield. And yeah, like, what did you say stop motion bleeding? That was like, it was the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Like yellow or red jello or something? Yeah, because body by Jake, he jumps out of nowhere. He brought Lesnar's the girl onto the hood of the car. And then she bounces and then hits her head on the rock. And then the stop motion blood goes out. Like, it looked weird. Even on the way down, her, it does it in like slow motion. And her eyes were already like dead ass open.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And she's like already dead. And she hits the rock and nothing changes. And then like the blood just like. stop motions down the rock it's like what kind of effects are those that was terrible who put their fucking checkmark on that that's awful not you're in tarentino that's for sure and then the the total darkness walking and talking everything was completely dubbed over even though it didn't necessarily need to be. I did
Starting point is 01:17:43 like the kid with the guitar, man. He was the highlight of this movie to me. He's the thing that made it entertaining. He has a pretty good little mix and some pretty good magic tricks. He caught my eye every time he was on the screen. And I was actually pretty disappointed when they killed him. He did break the major rule of being a mime, though. He kept up.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Oh, he spoke. He wouldn't shut up. Well, he wasn't a mime. He was crappy kiss. I guess. He just didn't finish his makeup or something, or was the kiss member that just had a white face? I think he had like one little black eye, didn't he? Or was he trying to be a mime? I thought he was trying to be like kiss.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Uh-huh. I don't know anymore. I don't know anymore either. I mean, he's playing the electric guitar. You would think he was trying to be like kiss, right? Well, in 1981, that makes sense. But then the whole magician thing
Starting point is 01:18:44 kind of mime, I don't know. Also, he did have a very mimmy vibe. That's the thing to add. And kind of a rapy vibe when he was like giving the mashed potatoes to the Hispanic chick and have a yam. Who's he related to?
Starting point is 01:19:03 Because it seemed like everybody wanted him to die. Yeah, he was the son of And stepson of the two people that own the house. The older dude and the one with the big tities. Because there was some people there. I didn't even understand why they were there. Because I think one couple was renting an apartment from the guy. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yeah, renting the apartment above. They weren't real super clear on the story. And even if they were, I wasn't really paying attention. Because I really tried. But throughout the movie, I was. just like, who are you to each other? Yeah, I kind of was paying attention, and I still don't know how they were related exactly, Philip.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Unless it was a cult, right? Like a big love and cult. Yeah, it seemed, it could have gone very culty. They didn't know each other. Discount Lou Forigno. Right. and his, like, hyena maniacal after. And shooting up under his tongue.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Yeah, I didn't hate that part. I was like, oh, man, like that one actually made me feel something. I was like, holy shit, he's sticking it under his tongue. That's crazy. But then every other kill that he had or whatever, I mean, when he did, when he, when he, when he brought less than that girl off the car. I got to say pretty hilarious.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Took her to Subplex City. But from what little I could see, if you're going to have shitty production value, maybe don't shoot in the dark. I think this accurately sums everything up. On Wikipedia, there's a
Starting point is 01:20:55 I think it's a review from Retro Slasher wrote, the film has hard. Sure, it's a kind of mindless and confuse heart, but it's acting is decent and there's a real feeling that the film makes we're shooting for something.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Or something. Yeah, this is like, this is like grad student or something. Right, there you go. You nailed it. Grad, grad student or undergrad.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Undergrad student. Yeah. This is an undergrad film. and that's just it's just what it is man and and you know i i wasn't thrilled although slasher is not my favorite genre to begin with it did border very much on so bad that it's good because some of the scenes were so fucking awful that they were kind of funny like the dialogue was fucking terrible the acting was fucking terrible although some of the actors did really give it their best. I'll give them, I'll give them that. They weren't, they weren't total schlocks. The writers were. The mouth was moving a second and a half behind the dialogue,
Starting point is 01:22:15 but other than that, you know, but that's not their fault. Yeah, that's, that's a production thing, like, like with the ADR. Yeah, the production was awful. You're playing two clips of people speaking, but you're playing them at the same damn time. It just looks like everybody's talking over each other. That's true. That did happen a few times. Yeah. Just like on a, well, okay, so there's your undergrad part because on a technical level, this movie's a fucking mess. Yeah, true. Having said that, though, I feel like maybe I was harsh when I said the acting was bad because I don't think it's their fault. I think they did what they could.
Starting point is 01:22:59 And even though body by Jake, man, his stupid, fucking maniac laugh. I was like, you were the shittiest serial killer I've ever seen. And for no reason. Like, nothing in this movie made any fucking sense. There was no story. So, let me ask you this. Knock off Loufriino is killing people. Nobody cares about your fucking family drama.
Starting point is 01:23:26 All right. Let me ask you as a question. So, correct me if I'm wrong. He escaped from a mental institution. That's what they're talking. us. Okay, so is this a mental institution that had like a, had a seven room 24-7 open gym, personal trainers, um, dietitians with testosterone replacement and steroids? Yeah, this could be the same place that Rob Zambi's, Michael Myers went to. That is a great point.
Starting point is 01:23:57 That's a great point. I think it, I think you just crossed the streams, Brian. I think we're in, We're in a shared universe now. That dude was just kind of a giant. This dude was a bodybuilder. If you think for a second that steroids weren't blasting through those veins at all times, you are honest. And if you guys think for a second that no cocaine was used in this film? Yeah, a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I'm trying to find out was he body by Jake when this came out? Because it's not saying. Maybe this is. what got him is his fame. This was his third movie. I used that term loosely. Okay. You can't get that big without steroids.
Starting point is 01:24:47 It just doesn't happen. And like I said, a full time 10. It's not possible. In a great diet consisting of nothing but protein and a little bit of fat, no carbs. Dude, you can do everything perfectly. You're not going to look like that guy. That was everything was. everything was distended.
Starting point is 01:25:06 That's one of those 80s bodybuilders. They were all on Roids, including all. I'm coming on open to stage. Including all the wrestlers, including all the baseball players. It's fucking how the world was, man. Right, right. It's just people didn't talk about it. I want to go to that insane asylum.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Shit. I've come out looking like that. Fuck. Nobody will mess with me. That's a weird thing about prison, huh? Like you lock people away for 20 years and then, like, give them a fucking weight room and anger. That sounds like there'll be a great contribution to society when they get out. He's a superhero, a super villain origin story.
Starting point is 01:25:54 What are you doing? All right. Anyway, got a sidetracked. That's how much this movie sucked ass. We sure talked about it a while. didn't we? Lance, one to ten, what's your score? I can't give it under a five.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I want to, because it's that fucking horrible. No, I can't. It's too much fun. I can't give it under a five. It's a five and a half. It's above the middle range for me. I had a blast watching it.
Starting point is 01:26:28 What can I say? Five and a half. That's the most insane thing I've ever heard from you. Brian. Sorry. I'm going to go a little bit more insaner. talking about this movie with you guys is up my score to a six.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Oh my God. And a lot of that is body by Jake. Crazy screams. This guy cannot sneak up on anybody. I think he's laughing on everybody. He has to turn sideways to go through the fucking door.
Starting point is 01:26:59 It is laughing maniacally while he's still 40 feet away from you, sneaking up on you. You know, he's not. He weighs 300 pounds. He's 5 foot 6. Right. Anyway. All right. Yeah, no, I'm not that crazy. I'm going to give it a two.
Starting point is 01:27:24 2023, the year Philip went to the lowest man of the totem pole. I know, man. A lot this year, dude, you have been. I have been a few times. This is like a good night script this. year. I feel like you guys are rating it on us so bad that it's good and I was like it's so bad that it's like
Starting point is 01:27:47 could be good but it's really just mostly fucking bad like maybe this is a high school film project Phillip has actually got the most accurate review I'm sure the three of us but
Starting point is 01:28:07 I can't help it. And then that body by Jake trivia, I don't know. Maybe that's what knocked it above five for me, Brian. That's true. Had I not known that? I mean, I, because I was going to give it. I was like debating on zero or one. I was going to give it a one because of the guy with the guitar, man.
Starting point is 01:28:27 He had some pretty good legs. Very bluesy solo. And his magic trick for good. And I was impressed. I was like, oh. There's the special effects you need in this movie. He definitely wanted to have some licks on the Hispanic tricks. He wanted some licks on the Hispanic chick.
Starting point is 01:28:46 That's for sure. Can you blame him? Not really. All right. Moving on to the brand new Thanksgiving, 2020. All right. After a Black Friday riot ends in tragedy, A mysterious Thanksgiving-inspired killer terrorizes Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:29:50 The birthplace of the infamous holiday. Plymouth Rock. I guess you didn't know. Director Eli Roth, also known for Cabin Fever and... Thanksgiving is a time for appreciation. It's a time to remember our many blessings. To celebrate with the ones that we love the most. And it's time for all families to be together.
Starting point is 01:30:42 This is filmography, Lance. This is Finn. Yes, yes, there is. If I am, look it up. I am DB. Is it really? I swear to go. An American documentary.
Starting point is 01:30:59 A documentary, Lance. What's it about? It follows Roth in a group of scientists, activists, and researchers who travel around. the world exposing the extinction of sharks. Well, there you go. Eli Roth was in...
Starting point is 01:31:18 All right. Well, anyway, at Hustle. Okay. Man of many talents. The shark activist. Writers are Eli Roth and Jeff Rendell. This is Eli and Rick Hoffman's first collaboration since
Starting point is 01:31:36 Hostel. In an interview with Total Films, magazine filmmaker Eli Roth said that the film isn't meant to be the film that it was advertised in Grindhouse. We said let's pretend Thanksgiving was a movie from 1980 that was so offensive that every print was destroyed. All the scripts were burned. The director disappeared. The crew members changed their names. One person saved the trailer and uploaded it to the darkest corners of 4chan and now it's made it out. So this is a 2020 home sweet home. A 2023 reboot.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Once we said that, it freed us up. Sure. A bunch of bullshit. Lance, what did you think about Thanksgiving? Oh, man. I was really looking forward to this. I couldn't wait to see the cheerleader do the splits and land on a knife. Didn't get that scene.
Starting point is 01:32:37 A lot of other scenes I wanted. A lot of other scenes I wanted that I didn't get. This was not a good movie, guys. I was really kind of hoping I'd have a lot more fun with this. Can I say it was a total waste of time? Not really, because there were some kind of fun kills, I guess, sort of. I definitely saw the murderer more than halfway through the movie, which is the ultimate kiss of death for me,
Starting point is 01:33:07 because AJ is great at figuring out films. horrible. I can watch a mystery movie where they literally tell you one third of the way through the movie, this guy's the killer. And I'm at the end of the movie and I'm like, it was him? What the fuck? I don't necessarily think they were hiding
Starting point is 01:33:24 it. I guess not. I sure hope not. I saw a lot of comparisons. predictable as that fucking thing was. I saw a lot of comparisons to scream in this movie. I unfortunately did too. And I didn't see that it was paying homage to scream
Starting point is 01:33:40 so much as aping it and did not sit well with me. Yeah, that did not sit well with me. There were so many ways they could have easily flushed out the killer by just simply saying, hey, a certain person is using something, but when they do the kills, so therefore everyone in town that is using this thing is now forbidden to use it. There's a lot of stuff I can't say because it's spoiler territory. We'll get into that later, but like, I don't really understand why certain things happened the way that they did. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I don't know, man. It just didn't grab me. I thought it was going to kind of grab me early on. I expected just a fun, free for all, lots of great gore. And we got some of that. We got some really good gore. I'm not going to say we didn't. And it wasn't like ridiculously CGI heavy or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I did enjoy seeing the guy from Hostel that was the the funny guy you know that showed up in here again Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah The big teeth, the big smile and everything But I mean I'm having trouble even kind of remembering
Starting point is 01:34:55 Some of the details of this movie And I saw it when I was stone cold sober In the middle of the day I wasn't I can't say that I was falling asleep No I did maybe that was the problem Maybe I should have been a little bit green or something and I might have enjoyed it more, but I don't know, man, this movie just kind of bored the fuck out of me.
Starting point is 01:35:13 I did not. Nothing about this movie impressed me. The kills were okay as they happened, but they didn't go nearly as far as I wanted them to. The characters were not even unlikable. Like at Home Sweet Home, I love the way the characters were so unlikable that you couldn't wait from to get killed off. this one they were just to me
Starting point is 01:35:38 Duds just complete Dedsville Boring Duds So this is this is a no for me Boys and Girls Cannot recommend this movie Not a not a fan Can't wait to hear you guys say it was the best movie In the year
Starting point is 01:35:53 Well It was it was the best movie of the year No it wasn't No what do you think I agree with some of what Lance says I unlike him I did have fun with it because I wasn't expecting a whole lot
Starting point is 01:36:14 I will say it's not the movie I thought it was going to be okay if I would have read that quote before I went into it I would have probably had a different outlook on the movie but when I was going in it
Starting point is 01:36:30 I thought I was getting the fake trailer Thanksgiving okay Okay. And that would have been better, right? Oh, yeah, a hundred times better. That guy's fucking a decapitated head at the end of that trailer. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:48 You don't get nothing close to that here. But I will say, I will say some of the kills were kind of funny. Maybe it was the cookie I ate before I seen the movie. I don't know. That's where I fucked up. That is definitely where I feel. Because some of the kills were kind of hilarious to me. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:10 More on the practical side, Phil, I know you said you didn't see the movie. Which is good. Yeah. Yeah. I missed it. But that's cool. They went more on the practical side with the kills, which I... I always love that.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I expect that from Elon. Yeah. But I... It surprised the shit out of me when Lance was like, oh, well, this is, like, started it with this was really bad. I was like, man, Eli Roth, let me down, dude. I thought that was going to be a good one. Eli Roth does not always make great movies, man. Yeah, that's true. But he's... He's not just some nobody.
Starting point is 01:37:50 True, but... See, that's where I agree with Lanson that this is not a great movie. It's because I felt it was tame. There are some good kills in here. There are... I think maybe I I'm just, what's the word? Underwhelmed? Not underwhelmed. When you've seen too much stuff, you're... Jaded?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Jaded? No, Lance, I wasn't upset with this movie. Stop. Okay. Never mind. Overexposed? No, something like that. When you've seen too much killing in movies
Starting point is 01:38:27 and then when you see a death scene, you're just kind of like, well, that was okay. That's just kind of how I felt to a lot of, I know the word you're looking for. It wasn't particularly original. Like, there were some death scenes that could have been done a lot better. Desensitized.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Let me ask you a question. Let me just ask you a random question, Philip. You didn't see the movie. So if you're going to take a turkey, right, and put it in the oven. Do you leave the plastic wrapper on the turkey and throw it in the oven? Or do you take off the plastic wrapper, expose the turkey rub butter and stuff all over the
Starting point is 01:39:10 exposed turkey and then put it do you know where I'm going here right Brian I know because I don't I don't why do you leave the clothes on a fucking woman that you're going to cook okay sorry I just spoiled a scene
Starting point is 01:39:25 why did he not take all the clothes this was super tame I thought it was like a scene where they put a turkey in the oven plastic on it fucking PG-13 movies. I'm tired of fucking PG-13 movies. Okay, there was clothes on her, but then when the little turkey thing, the little think turkey's done thing pops. I was laughing. I was laughing too, but god damn it.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Honestly, man. Oh, he put a girl in, all right. Well, we'll get to that in spoilers. Yeah, we'll get to that in spoilers. But I had a little bit more fun of a time than Lance. Maybe his expectations were through the roof with this. I thought... I wanted to see that scene with the cheerleader landing with her crotch on the knife.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Well, we might as well just go into spoilers. Weird that you want to see that. We've been doing that a lot, haven't we? All right, let's skip scores real quick. Okay. All right, Lance, what do you think? Two. Two.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Ouch. he just gave home sweet home biggest piece of fucking garbage that I've ever seen where I actually enjoyed what they were trying to convey that's what I'm saying I don't know I don't know where this guy's going with his scores I am on the other hand I will it's not a seven but it's not a six I have to give it a six and a half
Starting point is 01:40:59 what Brian I thought some of the kills on this guy I thought some of the kills were fun spoilers okay spoilers spoilers quick what kill did you like the most actually like the the woman getting cooked in the
Starting point is 01:41:31 in the giant oven because I thought it was hilarious when the little thing the little yeah I love that little tiny little scene but it would have been so great dude if he had like literally just viciously ripped her clothes off of her okay so I thought he was going to give her a shot to make her like where she couldn't move right
Starting point is 01:41:50 wait so that would have been awesome no dude that would have been like hostile don't worry about that right that would have been just fucking oh that would have been evil right he gives her a shot she's laying there and can't do anything he viciously rips her clothes off fuck he maybe even just rapes her
Starting point is 01:42:07 why not let's go and then he fucking puts her legs up ties him together right Trusts them. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:42:22 You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This movie, man. Not silliness. Yeah, I, okay. I kind of agree.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I expected it to be kind of comedic. I kind of agree with what he's saying. Other than the... Like an episode of France. I agree with what he's saying other than the rapy part. I did think the kills were going to be a little bit more mean-spirited.
Starting point is 01:42:51 That's what I was hoping for. And I will say, I thought the humor was going to be a little bit different because if you go back to, I don't know if you guys remember the fake trailer all that well, but Michael Bean was in the fake trailer. Oh, he should have shown up.
Starting point is 01:43:06 They're investigating a scene and he does a pool of blood and he dips his finger in it and he tastes it and he was like, it's blood. And then someone said, God damn it, I knew it. Well, that was a throwback to that's not cranberry sauce, I'm sure, right? I'm sure Eli Roth saw that movie when he was young, you would think, right? I don't know. I just went in. I didn't think we were going to get a big extravagant, who did it, who's the killer story.
Starting point is 01:43:32 I thought we were just going to get a straightforward slasher movie that takes place on Thanksgiving and people getting killed. Okay, but why then have the fucking mask if you're not going to make it a who done? I mean, you know, and they tried to make it kind of look like it was the two competing boys that were both competing for the girl's affection. You know, the douchebag, you know, preppy guy and then the outcast dude who left town for a while. Like, they definitely set it up to look like it might have been one of them, but that would have been too obvious, right? That's where I got the screen comparisons because you've got the ensemble cast of who could it be, could be this guy. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:12 that's gotcha gotcha kind of a knives out situation yeah yeah if knives out had been done by a junior high student if you're paying attention to the movie you know who the killer's going to be
Starting point is 01:44:25 I guess even when they tried to dupe you at the end uh-huh somebody hit me on the head gag like I guess it's not you then this may have to go down to one and a half the more you're talking about And I will say, I think that was an accurate depiction of what Black Friday used to be in the opening scene.
Starting point is 01:44:50 So I guess the opening scene was kind of funny when you had all that shit going on. Attempted murder. You know, I mean, when those guys, you know, just because their dad owned the score or whatever. Well, yeah, they had that, which was kind of funny. But that that was a stupid setup, Brian, that just because these kids were like friends of the guy that, whose dad owned the store they were able to like go in there and then they see all the guys out there getting mad and wanting to get in and they just turn and go like fuck you look I bought an iPhone
Starting point is 01:45:20 or whatever they're teenagers though Lance they're not adults that know what they're doing that's fucking dumb I teenagers are dumb I was one did a lot of dumb shit I have I still do a lot of dumb shit they do a lot of dumb shit they've done a lot of dumb shit also true man I don't know. Them looking at a crowd of people that want to be where they're at
Starting point is 01:45:46 and them thrown in the middle fingers, I can totally see some teenagers. And he was the asshole out of the group, you got to admit. Well, you know what? There were a few assholes in the group. Maybe this was kind of like the first one where there were a lot of hateable characters. Because there definitely were some assholes. It wasn't just the one, you know?
Starting point is 01:46:08 I wouldn't think they were hate. hateable. I would say some of them were kind of useless. Did you like the final girl? Did you think she was, you know, like a good final girl? Did she deserve that's fun? Because of my youngest daughter, I'm supposed to say I don't like her. Right, right. Because my daughter hates Addison Ray. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:32 So she's like a TikTok chick. Yeah, so out of respect for my daughter, I did not like Addison Ray's performance. Right. She's a horrible actress. But in actuality, you kind of respected it, right? No, she was just a regular vanilla, bland final girl. Yeah, the whole movie was vanilla and bland. Yeah, I thought this movie was super fucking bland, Philip.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Like, you can skip this movie big time, dude. Maybe this is why we don't have that many Thanksgiving movies because nobody knows how to make one. Well, I mean, yeah. It's kind of given that a Thanksgiving movie that comes out is going to suck. That's why that fucking, that Santa movie that came out last year, what the hell was it called? Which one? Silent Night.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Violent Night. Violent Night. Okay. That's why I was so surprised that it was good. Right, right. Because like most holiday movies suck. Whoa. No, they're going to suck.
Starting point is 01:47:40 You're about to trigger Lance. Yeah. I'm just saying most holiday movies in general. Well, it's tough to do a Thanksgiving movie, apparently. You know, I mean, I don't... How many good Thanksgiving horror movies do we have? Thanks killing. Thanksgiving was fun.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Yeah, but... If you're going to give the gold medal of that one, not very many. I don't know. I'm saying. If you're into slasher's, you just want to see people get killed and not really have to think too much about the story, then... And it's a pleasure. Let's get some fucking... Sci-fi horror Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:48:26 I guess. For Thanksgiving movie, you're demonic... I don't know. It's always a slasher. Demonic possession. Something. Well, maybe. I don't know, man. Maybe we have guilt about celebrating the holiday.
Starting point is 01:48:45 And so that's why the movies all suck. Because everybody's afraid to actually make something that is controversial, you know? Because Thanksgiving is, you know, when the Europeans brought all these wonderful diseases to the Native Americans and started taking over the land, you know. So, you know, maybe it's kind of like a taboo subject. So everybody's afraid to be created. Well, he wasn't talking about. with a good Thanksgiving movie. Not at all. Yeah, I didn't even touch on it.
Starting point is 01:49:13 You know, it was just like, that's when the movie. You're right, it was more of a Black Friday movie, right, than anything else. This was, this kind of reminded me that, what was that one with Bruce Campbell in it last year? Black Friday? Yeah, yeah, this was more of a Black Friday movie than a Thanksgiving movie, right? I never saw that movie. You know what? It's okay.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Brian, I will give you this. It was kind of funny. the way that they commented on society and how they keep moving up the Black Friday, right? Like, we used to have Black Friday start Friday afternoon, right? Then Friday morning. And then at midnight. And now we start Black Friday
Starting point is 01:49:52 on Thanksgiving. And now we can't even finish dinner because we've got to go up at the store. That was pretty cool. I thought that that was a good way to start the movie. Is that how the killer came to be? Because if so, I totally understand it. I guess, for it. I don't want to spoil it because you still may want to watch it, but he became the killer because of an incident that happened on Black Friday.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Yeah. Somebody stole his Beanie babies. And typical horror movie. See, even Philip figured it out. Typical horror movie, they have to wait a whole year. That's right. Just to make it perfect. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Yeah, I don't want to spoil too much because Phil might He may still want to watch it Well, and we've said enough, right? I mean, we've said enough about this movie. I thought this is what it is. I was excited about watching it when I thought it was on Peacock. Is it on the cock? No.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Okay, give it two weeks. But it is, it's, yeah, it will be in a couple of weeks. It's a, all right. I think it's an NBC movie. Well, you'll get to see a couple of kind of fun kills. How about that? So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.
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Starting point is 01:51:43 You guys know where to find us. Check us out. But next week, we are going to shout out at another patron. And we will cover Legion Podcasts, Patreon Picks. And this is going to be hunger, but not the hunger, Brian? Sure. One that came out in 2009. Okay, so this is Hunger from 2009?
Starting point is 01:52:09 I don't even know what this is. I think I haven't revisited yet, but I think I've seen this movie. Is it The Hunger? It sounds familiar. Okay, we better double-check with our friends at Legion just to make sure we're covering the right movies, right? If it's the one I'm thinking of that came out in 2009, it's the one I think of I've seen,
Starting point is 01:52:30 then it's an interesting movie. All right, and I'm looking forward to that. we're definitely going to check out Boys in the Trees. I've heard a lot of good things about. It's apparently very dark movie. That's what we need for Christmas. And on Netflix, you've got
Starting point is 01:52:47 Run Rabbit Run. And we're going to check that one out. So, Phillip. What's that? Oh, the Run Rabbit Run. I may have already seen that, but I was excited to check it out. Well, we'll do a rewatch, man.
Starting point is 01:53:03 So, yeah. Philip, until the horror returns again? Good night. I think I haven't revisited yet, but I think I've seen this movie. Is it The Hounder? Okay, we better double-check with our friends at Legion just to make sure we're covering the right movies, right? If it's the one I'm thinking of that came out in 2009,
Starting point is 01:53:30 it's the one I think of I've seen, and it's an interesting movie. All right I'm looking forward to that We're definitely going to check out Boys in the Trees I've heard a lot of good things about It's apparently very dark movie
Starting point is 01:53:44 That's what we need for Christmas And on Netflix You've got Run Rabbit Run And we're going to check that one out So Phillip What's that?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Oh the Run Rabbit Run I may have already seen that But I was excited to check it out Well we'll do a rewatch man so uh yeah philip until the whore returns again good night

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