The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #392: Legion Podcasts Patreon Picks - Hunger (2009), Boys In The Trees (2016) & Run Rabbit Run (2023)
Episode Date: November 28, 2023This week, we honor our patrons at Legion Podcasts with Hunger, Boys In The Trees, and Run Rabbit Run. Our friend Tavares from Student of the Game podcast joins us make things even better! Cool of the... week includes Goosebumps, Squid Game the Challenge, The Gift, and the Loki finale. Trailer is Founder's Day. The podcast spotlight shines on Scaretalk. And we get feedback from Xim Vader, Jerry Eberts, Mike Batchelor, Ariel Wellman, Al Ramseur, Marcus Wilturner, and Jason Gorton. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome.
You have found the place where the horror returns.
Listeners beware.
This podcast contains major plot spoilers.
and the foulest of language.
Join us in celebrating the old and the new,
the best, and the worst in horror.
Florida man here, Lance.
And with me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian.
And tonight we've got Tavares,
our buddy from Student of the Game podcast.
What's up, guys?
What's happening?
What's happening?
What's up with Student of the Game, man?
What are you covering?
Oh, man.
Well, I'm getting ready to start doing my 31 Christmas movies watch.
Yes.
See, Brian?
Oh, you're doing that, too?
Yeah, man, I've been doing it.
Well, last year was the first year I did it where I actually, but I say, you know what?
I had a lot of fun doing that last year.
And it's like a little competitive challenge I have with myself because there were times
where I was like, I would get to a movie like 10 out of 31,
and I'm like, man, I don't feel like doing this shit, man.
But I'm like, you know what?
Like I like Christmas movies, but yeah.
Yeah, where I may only get three views.
I'm like, well, that's three people that watch that.
Or maybe that's just one person that watched that video for three times.
And it's like, you know.
Yeah, I owe it to that one person or those.
You may need to watch out for that guy.
Yeah, I know, right.
I know, right.
It was probably me.
Hey, make sure on your way to Florida, you know, you like these videos you watch like 10 to 12 times.
You know, I appreciate that.
But I had some videos, you know, see, when I did Crampus last year, got about 12,000 views on that one.
It's a good one.
That one did pretty good.
It did real good.
So I'm like, I might need to talk more Crampus on my channel.
But there's there's a lot of crampus movies, dude.
Yeah, hey, dude, check this out.
Like, because the one I talked about was the one with, what's the actress name?
I think her name is Tony Collette.
I think it came out in like 2015, 2016.
And I didn't know.
Like you said, there's a lot of them.
I didn't realize that there was that many Crampus movies.
That's what I'm like, wow, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Most of them are bad.
Just got a tuby
You'll find him
Okay
Okay
Got it to be
Okay
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah because it's one
Where I saw like
On the
Cover art
It had
It had
Cranpus
And it had
Santa Claus
But Santa Claus
Look like
He was like
A
Like a
Commando or something
You know
What I'm saying
And it had like
Cranpys
And Crapp
I've got to see that
Crappies
Had like
These big old
Steroid
Hope looking calves
And stuff
That's what I'm like
Wow
Okay
I think we did that one, Lance.
Did we do that one?
I think that was Tales for Christmas or something like that.
You're talking about the one with William Shatner,
played the radio disc jockey.
I think that's the one.
Oh, William is that the one?
Yeah, I think it's one of those.
There's like a whole bunch of cameos in there.
Okay, okay.
I'm going to have to check that one out there.
All right. Well, let's move up to one. Yeah, that was a great movie.
That's a good one, man. I'd have to cover that, cover that this year if I could talk AJ into it.
But cool of the week, Tavaris, what's the coolest thing you've watched, Red, video game you played?
What's your cool of the week?
My cool of the week, I've started watching, I recently started watching the new Goosepumps series on Disney Plus.
Me and my daughter finished it.
Oh, y'all finished?
Okay, I'm, you know, four episodes in.
Okay.
I like it.
Like, I like a lot more than I anticipated because I'm a big fan of the show that came on, like, in the, what was it, like, mid, late 90s.
And the tone of this one here, man, it's like, like, it's more for the, like, teenagers all
up to, like, adults so far, isn't it?
Really?
My kids.
Yeah, because my kids, they wanted to watch it.
Like, my oldest is 10 years old, and he watched probably all of the old ones
that was in the early 90s.
And I remember my sister-in-law was saying, like, she didn't really think it was for kids
and stuff.
So that's why I was like, well, let me screen it first before I show it to my younger ones.
But I don't know.
Like, it seems like it's a show I could have them watch, but I might need to be there
watching it with them.
Like, I wouldn't just have them just watching that body.
themselves but that's that's the first four episodes of it so i haven't seen the remaining ones i plan
on finishing that this week but um yeah i like it man i think it's a good show um i mean just
long man like i know they don't have like a i don't know if there's a category out there for
like um screen king you know we get to hear the different screen screen screen and stuff but i'm like man
if there's a screen king category out there i think justin long should definitely be in it man
because going from jeepers creepers.
Yeah, that's right.
Jeepers Creepers.
Tuss.
Drag me to hell.
Barbarian.
Mm-hmm.
Barbarian.
Tusk.
Totally underrated.
Yeah.
And Tusk, yeah.
Right.
It's like,
you gotta have a scream king
and crack category, man.
I'll definitely put him in there.
I love his acting.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah.
And the young actors and the actors that are in the,
what's that?
Accepted.
The college me?
That was not horror, but he was great in it.
That's been a while.
That's been a while.
Hey, just throw in on 10.
Ask me about my winner.
See things?
Jesus.
What's the movie he was in?
He's just not that into it.
Oh, waiting.
Oh, waiting.
Waiting.
Okay.
I know.
Waiting is.
You know, he was annoying as hell.
waiting man like i felt like
everybody to train is like bro
like get over yourself man everybody
trying to figure life out bro you know what I'm saying
yeah but um
but yeah man definitely man
he should be in that screen king category
man I really like okay
his acting in that show so you know but
it's it's pretty cool how they're doing it
you know it's not like how
the original um
what is it um goosebumps
was where each episode
it's kind of like
if there's a different story or whatever.
But in this one here, they're tying it all together and stuff,
so I can't wait to see how it looks in the end.
But yeah, that's my cool other week.
I think they did an excellent job kind of,
because everybody was upset that it wasn't going to be an anthology,
but I think they did a good job of tying everything into one continuous story.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
What is that going on?
Disney Plus and Hulu.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
They fit Slappy in there.
They fit Slappy in there.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he's on the poster.
He's got to be in there.
You got to have Slappy somewhere in there.
You get a, you get a, well, you're not there yet, so I won't spoil anything.
All right.
Not right.
I'll go next.
I only got one thing in.
Me and my daughter over, oh, I can't say over the weekend.
basically over one night.
We binged the new Squid Game,
the Challenge reality game show
on Netflix. Okay. All right.
I have a question, but go ahead.
I got a question.
I don't get it.
I enjoyed it because
you're watching people. Yeah, you kind of
like are pulling for some
people and then you're waiting
to see the demise of other people
because they're just complete fucking assholes.
And then
you get so mad at others because
you're like you're not playing the game right other people are like i was i play college football i'm
physically strong oh it's not just it's not just those kind of tests that are gonna right right
you know is it an american show uh it's it's a mixture of people because it was like
over 400 i think 456 contestants oh wow the series okay yeah yeah and uh they they they do it
just like the TV show where they got to stay in the dorms
and you've got the guards and you vote people out
and you do the challenges and...
And you're shaving the head and, you know, all that stuff.
Oh, instead of getting actually shot,
they have squids on to simulate you've been shot
when you've been eliminated.
I don't know, dude.
Actual reality shows?
Yeah.
Like fake...
They have what now?
Oh, they have squibs.
They pretend shoot them?
Yeah.
And what makes it hilarious is because, like, when somebody gets shot, they're like, oh, fuck, I'm out.
Oh.
But it's unedited?
It's unedited?
Oh, I'm sure they told them, like, when you're dead, act like you're dead.
And everybody's.
Oh, I love it.
That's a little, okay.
That's a little better.
Okay.
I was just like, I was thinking, how could it possibly stand up to the.
any series about actually killing people.
That was...
It's more so...
It's more so...
It's more so the people.
Because some of them actually have some
like fucking sad-ass stories and you
kind of want to see them with
the money and then others,
you're just like, I hope you
fucking lose immediately.
Yeah.
Fuck that guy.
And of course,
we're at the point...
Reality shows, man.
Yeah, we're at the point of the show where everybody's
starting to...
click up in certain groups and you're kind of
form alliances yeah there's certain decisions i'm just i'm looking at my daughter and i was like
why do that you should have took this person out it would have been way better for you and then
they said uh it's going to be the biggest uh cash prize in reality game show history
because it's already up to like four billion with all the people no wonder
no wonder my netflix went up to 25 bucks a month okay yeah
4 billion happy to help
oh four million
dollars
for million oh okay all right
yeah that's exactly
my daughter was
where they getting this money from
and I was like I well you see me I just paid our
Netflix bill so
that's where they getting it from
but it's it's a fun show
it's more so the people
okay
and it kind of makes me
I would definitely try it
I would if I
had the opportunity and I would I would
$4 million? I would tell
everybody. Yeah. Watched out because
I would be cutthroat.
Not making any alliances
going after everybody.
No, I changed that. I wouldn't make alliances.
Mm-hmm. But I wouldn't keep
them. So
only one person
will win the $4 million or is that
divided up amongst a team or a group?
It's only one person wins.
They slowly through, throughout,
boatings and challenges people get eliminated constantly.
Oh, wow.
Man, there will be only one, huh?
Yeah, that's like hungry games type stuff.
So, yeah, did they start it, Brian, with the red light greenlight game?
Yeah, that's how they cut through a lot of the four.
A lot of people, huh?
Yeah.
Which that was hilarious.
That's what I was thinking.
That's where the squibs would make sense, right?
I'll tell you one person.
know whether or not somebody got out.
Yeah.
I'll tell you one person that pissed me off
was in that very first challenge.
When they froze, they were
for some reason in a squatting position.
Okay.
And she couldn't hold it.
Uh-oh.
You're sitting there squatting
and you can't move.
Sure.
And then she was just like, fuck it.
And then sat down and then, of course, the little
squid goes off.
And I was like, why would you freeze
in an uncomfortable position
where you've got to hold it?
Dumb bitch.
Dumb bitch.
Because she thought it would look cool for TV.
But that whole opening scene was hilarious because there's people like, when it's red light,
you see people like freezing in the weirdest positions.
Other people diving on the ground trying to lay still.
You can see their squims go out.
Oh, wow.
Because they have the little tall, doll-looking thing.
And when it turns around the cameras,
catching an ocean sensor.
Sure, sure.
Just like the game, man.
Yeah.
All right, I might give it a try, then.
Brian, you've talked me into it.
It's five episodes now,
and then I think the rest,
I think they said, will drop the 29th of this month.
So, a few more days.
Okay.
All right.
As much as I want to talk about a Christmas movie, guys,
I guess my cool of the week is going to be the Loki finale.
The only problem is I can't really,
say anything about it.
Because boy, do I have questions?
Does this change the whole trajectory of
where we're going? Are we still?
Tavares, you're our comic book guy, man.
Are we still doing the King Dynasty and all that?
Or are we going to shift gears now?
I don't think you have to.
Okay.
Yeah, they don't. They don't.
I haven't had a chance to watch season two
a low-key yet.
But from my understanding, like...
I don't want to say too much then.
With Marvel with Kevin Feigy, man, they don't write their plans out in pen.
They do it in pencil because I remember when they first announced the whole
Infinity War thing, it was going to be called like Infinity War saga,
or part one and part two.
And then like a couple of years before Infinity War came out,
they kind of changed the name or whatever and stuff, you know,
and how they were going to do it.
But I think the situation,
with Jonathan Majors
with his legal issues going on
I think that kind of forced them to pivot
and also though
when I think about it
they was going to do secret wars
regardless
okay so I have a question about that
so Venom's already out
out loose in the in the Sony universe right
so how is Spider-Man going to find that
costume that he found in Secret Wars
in the comic book?
Well the Venom's already
in the MCU
Yeah, but he wasn't when the comic books came out, right?
At the end of No Way home, when Vittam was temporarily in the...
Right, that's right.
He was temporarily in that same universe, and then when he left,
him of the symbiates was still there.
So, you know, let me see, is Peter Parker...
Well, they're going to have to rewrite.
You know, Peter Parker might go to a bar, and then that's when the symbi
might get into him and something.
So, but, uh, do they have a deal with Sony or something?
Yeah.
No, Sony owns Spider-Man.
Yeah, Sony owns Spider-Man, but they're not going to let go of it, are they?
Well, but I mean, it sounds like they're signing deals with them to make the, to make movies.
Hey, you guys make a movie and give me money.
They have, they own Spider-Man, but they learned their lesson saying, we'll just let MCU make the
Spider-Man movies, but they keep pumping out all these
Spider-Man villain movies, which,
I know you're going to go see Madam Webb because of the
just, well, yeah, with her in it, of course I am.
But does, can Disney get a hold of Venom?
Yeah, I'm sure.
Well, yeah.
They'll say this is what we're going to have.
Venom will probably end up being in Secret Wars or something like that.
He's got to be.
He was a big person.
same.
Yeah.
Kevin Faggy,
he'll go to Sony
and be like,
he'll show them a number
and it'll be a profit
number and then Sony
would be like,
let's do it.
Yeah.
He'll probably tell them,
you know,
let's bring venom in it,
but like,
Morbius,
you can keep that over there.
Yeah,
keep Morbius.
You know what I said?
Depend on,
depending on how much
maybe scrap that one.
Craven makes.
Like if Craven doesn't
make money,
he's probably going to tell
him I'll keep craving
over there.
See, that's another one that
kind of looks like it'll be a fun movie
but it just
Madam Webb and Craven look like they could be fun movies
but I don't care in the overall
Sony Spiderverse
but yeah they're probably
gonna flop
but Craven Craven I like that they're going R-rated
because it's Craven you have to
unless they get Mike Baxter
her in to play Craven, I'm out. True.
See, I just don't like that, like,
craving like this anti-hero. And it's like,
oh, man. Yeah, true. He's a super villain, you know?
Let them do what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? And it's,
yeah, like, that's pretty bold to go out there and make a bunch of movies.
Spider-Man villains. Spider-Man is not in there. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah,
They got, I feel like they got lucky with venom.
That's a great, great character.
Yeah, you know, and I like Raven, but it's like, don't make me care about Craven, okay?
Yeah, fair enough.
Because no matter what, I'm going to choose Peter Parker over Craven, okay?
Yeah, okay.
Because I think Craven in this movie is a vegan or whatever and stuff.
That's what I'm like.
Craven the Hunter.
Craven the Hunter is a vegan.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Makes perfect sense.
Yeah, what they need to do,
what they need to do,
they just need to bring Andrew Garfield
back and just insert him in this universe.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
I'd watch that.
It would be horrible, right?
Yeah, I like Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man.
I think.
Yeah, it wasn't him.
It was the movies.
It was the right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I think some people felt like,
I like it, Andrew
Garfield, Spider-Man, you're betraying
Toby McGuire Spider-Ring. And I'm like,
no, man. He's just too old now.
He did differently than Toby McGuire. Exactly.
He's too old.
Yeah.
Instead of old man, Logan,
they're going to do old man Peter, huh?
Yeah.
They're going to do a series of old man, all of them.
Oh, man, Spadlery.
Why not?
Old man blade bringing up my lawn.
They kind of did.
that with end of the Spider-verse with the sweatpants Spider-Man.
Oh, yeah. That's true. I feel you, brother.
I was about to say that's my kind of Spider-Man.
Yeah.
They should do an old woman, wonder woman. Bring Linda Carter back, man. You know what I?
Hey, why not?
I think she could still do it as an old woman.
All right. What's you got, Philip?
I can go for that.
Yeah. Why not, right?
I heard her do a little
twirl
into the
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
They let Michael Pee
Come back
And do old man
Batman
So come on
You know
He was
He was the best
He was the best thing
In that movie
I will never know
Because I'll never watch it
Oh
So you
Pay it for Max
You might as well
Yeah for real
It's free
It's free
Yeah
I've also got so many
Hours in the day
too though
Yeah you got
You gotta get
Your Christmas movies
In
That's right
31 to go
We start tonight
I didn't watch a whole lot this week
Except
You know
Trash reality TV with my wife again
But
I did check out
The gift from the year 2000
The gift
The gift, okay
You guys ever seen this movie?
Oh yeah
Keanu Reeves
Is that a good movie
Yeah
That's a terrific movie.
I can't, I don't ever even remember this movie coming out.
Yeah, I hadn't seen it before.
And we just scrolled across it.
And let me read you the cast real quick.
We got Kate Blanchett.
We got Giovanni Rubisi, Keanu Reeves, Katie Holmes, Greg Ceneer, Hillary Swank, and Michael
Jeter, and then Kim Dickens.
And it goes on.
You know everybody in it.
The boss from, uh, from, uh, from,
fucking damn it
did you say
Derek Jeter
did you say Derek Jeter
what was the name
Mike Jeter
Adam Jeter or something like that
anyway
but yeah dude
it was it was a
murder
murder mystery
no he was not in it
but it was like a murder mystery
in Georgia
most of them kind of pulled off the accent
Katie Holmes did not
but you get topless katie holmes in this movie also yeah they talked they talked about that
her in kum Kumar yeah they're their next door neighbors couldn't go with them because uh the gift
was coming on tv later night and they were like katie home shows of boobies
i'm sorry man i don't she does they're beautiful i don't think she's a good actor
No, maybe not
I mean, I don't know
I didn't actually watch that show that she was in
Was it Dawson?
Oh, the Dawson
The Dawson
Well, she had Tom Cruise
Jumping up and down on the couch
So, you know
Yeah
Can you blame
Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it, man
It was definitely a cool of the week
I like those
You know, the tense movies like that
The murder mysteries.
Sure.
Yeah.
Different kind of role for Keanu, too.
Oh, yeah, it was.
He was totally an asshole.
And, you know, you hated him through the whole movie.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, but when it's over, you're like, it's immediately an asshole.
When it's over, you're like, it's Keanu.
You know, he was just acting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not going to like that.
That's when you go, he's...
That was the first time I ever seen him in a role where it's like,
close to like a villain and he's not like the nice, nice dude.
You know what?
You know what?
Yeah, I got you.
What you'm gonna call it is a funny movie that he's in
because he's supposed to be unlikable,
but you can't help but laugh at him.
Knock-knock?
Yeah.
Which movie?
Eli Ross Knock-knock.
Oh, yeah.
Because near the end,
they're trying to make you not like Keanu,
but his acting in it is hilarious
when he's like getting angry and mad.
Yeah.
I recommend everybody
watching for that reason.
And they wasn't taking him
serious at all.
Those chicks there
reminded me
like grown up
gremlins or something shit,
man.
That's where I'm like,
you know.
Did he play a bad guy
in a role too?
And they just giggling
and laughing.
That's where I'm like,
man.
Uh.
Or was it just knock knock?
Maybe that's the one
I'm thinking of.
Not really a bad guy.
I'm just a guy that
took advantage
of a couple of young girls
swinging
and he fought it. He tried to fight it, but he finally succumbed to the temptation, as any of us would.
I thought he played... I don't know.
That knock-knock had a hostile feel to it. Didn't you think, a little bit, Tavorous?
Kind of remember me of hostile, where the girls kind of pull you in?
He played the villain in the movie, right?
Yeah, that was all, well, Eli Rotha did them both.
So yeah, so it doesn't surprise me one bit, man.
But yeah, that...
Maybe it was not.
You knew that was going downhill once he let them in.
It's like, bro.
True, right.
They're strangers, bro.
You know what I mean?
Oh, this is...
Uh-huh.
You know?
There's one, because I pulled it up, does he play bad guy characters?
And there was one where he...
I guess it was a bad guy.
He did this movie called The Man of Tai Chi,
where he was, like, the final villain.
And he was barely in the movie.
Oh, God.
I haven't seen it.
I don't even know what that is.
Yeah, it must have been knock-knock that I was thinking of.
I bet Ness has seen it.
I've seen it too.
It was, it was, he holds his own
as far as like the martial arts,
but I just remember, like,
they were trying to sell it as it was a Keanu movie.
Yes, the only big name in it, probably, right?
What I can remember.
All right.
Is that cool?
The watcher.
The watcher.
That's the one I was thinking of.
Yes.
That's the one.
Anyway.
But yeah, that's what I got for cool of the week, though.
It was a fun rewatch.
You know, one of those in the year 2000 movies.
It was great.
Yeah, that's right.
Brian, we got any headlines tonight?
Let's see.
Beetlejuice 2 has wrapped fun.
filming so
all right
maybe trailer
coming soon
scream
seems like
they're headed
for a reboot
that's not good
not good
it's a soft reboot
because they're
thinking of the course
bringing back
Neff Campbell and Patrick
Dempsey
which he was the cop
in part three
that's who
in storyline
she married
that's all we need
Jesus Christ
I don't
I don't hate to reboot if they make it good.
Sure.
Whatever.
Yeah, I just, I don't, I just, I don't know if, are people going to, like, watch this movie now.
I'm going to try not to.
They're going to lose a portion of their audience because of that for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
If it's good, it could be screamed for a new generation.
What was that tovar?
What's that tovar?
No, I heard, um, Jenna Ortega is not going to be in it either.
Yeah, she, she left because.
that's a bad move scheduling conflict yeah yeah yeah and i already we are we all know she thought what they
did to her co-stars messed up so oh yeah most definitely yeah right yeah right yeah she was like uh i can't
film scream seven i got to go do wednesday so i'm not going to do your fucking movie yeah
but i feel bad for the other co-stars because i i kind of got attached to that the what they
column list, a core four?
Yeah, that's right.
You won't, maybe they'll pop up, you know, the core two now.
Yeah, but then you got to do that thing I hate when they
write off characters and they say, oh, they went to a different
college and we chose not to.
That's so fucking, even though they're the core four.
Yeah, that's terrible.
Just like they did Sydney in the last movie.
Where's Sydney? Oh, she's with her family living happily ever.
after. Now we're possibly going to do
a movie where
Ghostface is coming after her family.
Yeah, like Ghostface
cares whether or not if Sydney
is living peacefully with her family.
No shit. No shit.
You know, that's what she was trying to do.
The first five movies
that's the only one she wasn't in.
So it's like every time she's living
peacefully, it comes Ghostface.
But yeah.
You know, that's, and the thing about it,
franchise like Scream,
where you have your core characters, you got Dewey, Gail, and Sydney and stuff,
to be able to have a core four that come in there that a lot of the fans like
in the same franchise, like, that's kind of unheard of, man, you know?
So lightning striking twice on that.
So, yeah, they definitely dropped the ball on there.
I don't think they shouldn't have fired an old girl over that.
I mean, hey, that's.
Yeah, it was super big on social media.
like everybody's going after.
I think the studio was Spyglass Media Group.
Okay.
Because they were changing,
people were changing the logo to Spirinless Media Group.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, when I saw that story, I thought it was fake.
Because I saw it.
Did you?
Yeah, because when I saw it on YouTube,
I was scrolling and it literally said, like, 54 seconds ago,
whatever the name of the company, Spyglass,
they were fired.
the young lady was the star on there and stuff.
Unbelievable.
I'm like, this is not real.
So I went to one of the screen fan pages that I'm part of, whatever,
and I'm like, oh, this is real.
Wow.
Yeah.
I was waiting to hear from Melissa Barrera to see if it was actually thing.
And then when she came out, it was like, I said what I said,
and I'm standing by it.
You're not going to shut me up.
I was like, yeah, okay, this is for real.
Maybe, maybe, though.
Maybe they'll beg them to come back, Brian.
You know these studios.
Somebody's probably going to write a story for the soft reboot,
and the studio is going to be,
okay, this is it.
This is a winner right here.
We don't need everybody.
And then at the movie,
tanks,
then they'll probably try to bring them back.
Oh, man.
It's too late.
Uh-oh.
We lose to ours?
We'll just keep talking.
he temporarily.
I think he hit a button or something.
But I mean, regardless of what the hell your fucking views are, man,
to lose your job over something like that,
like over something,
like what,
I don't care how terrible or awful you think it is.
You ought to be able to believe whatever the fuck you want to believe.
But the thing that's getting everybody is,
the thing that's getting everybody,
I think it's kind of overall agreed upon
that what she said was not terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just...
Even if it was, who gives a fuck, man?
That's not something that you...
Right.
Is it something that she said in the movie?
No.
Like...
No, that's a good assy test.
Does it have anything to do with her job at all?
Kind of like what happened to Gina Corona, right?
Exactly.
You know?
Wow.
She was using other terminology.
That was...
It wasn't as bad as they made it out to be.
I disagree.
Whatever.
She was bringing up Nazis and shit like that.
Oh, God.
As we know, Philip, every Nazi's a villain, right?
In a different kind of comparison, but this sort of invokes the same thing at this point.
But regardless, you should be able to say,
whatever the fuck you want to say in your personal life.
It doesn't make a difference as to how you act and do in that movie.
Yeah, I agree with that, but...
It is what it is.
Yeah, I mean, it is. It is what it is.
And I'll defend both sides of the political spectrum from that end.
You know what I mean?
You ought to be able to say and feel however you want to feel.
Sure.
There's not anybody else's job to police that.
Anyway.
I mean, it didn't affect her role in the movie.
And obviously, it's pissed off the fans.
So they did not make the right decision, period.
End of story.
Well, I think they'll lose even more fans if they officially announced
they're going to continue with a whole new cast.
And, you know, I doubt Nav Campbell will come back.
Because the reason she didn't come back in six is because they didn't want to pay her, right?
Well, yeah.
To bars.
Something like that.
Last night, CM Punk came back to WWE, and they said it never happened.
I saw that.
And all I had to, we, wrestling returns episode is already out.
We did it immediately last night.
All I had to say was, we never thought it would happen, but money talks.
Yeah, well, they better, they better bring debate to that.
And there's, there's some fan, it's interesting, go listen to our episode.
There were some fan videos people took them when the pay-per-view went off.
There was some wrestlers.
Apparently nobody knew.
And one of the wrestlers that referred to see him punk as a cancer to the business was cussing them out.
And a fan caught it all on camera.
Ouch.
WWE said love them or hate him.
He brings business.
Hey, man, that's part of their history.
Like, nobody ever thought Hulk Hogan would have came back or...
Kevin Ash back in the day, you know.
But, yeah.
I mean, it didn't sting eventually come back.
Yeah, and then he got hurt, and they were like, oh, you're going to need to retire.
And he was like, okay, I'll just go to another company in wrestling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, there you go.
Always going to be in demand for wrestling.
Yeah, you can't tell someone they need to retire.
No, no.
Not, especially when, like I say, I love me some Rick Flair, man.
If Rick Flair can be.
if Rick Flair can be out there, man, shit, anybody can be out there, man.
That guy, that guy is talking about he wants the second retirement match.
Rick Flair?
Yeah, you're like 105.
Come on, man.
I don't think that would be a good idea, man.
We met that guy.
He was not moving around real well.
I don't know when it was a couple years ago.
I don't know when it was a couple years ago.
I watched his retirement.
match and I reviewed it for the
I remember that. Yes, I remember that. I was
legitimately like worried watching
him. Worried? Yeah.
Because it didn't, it didn't look, it just
didn't feel right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And they knew it because they... I was worried about
him back when, um,
what was that group he had? It was him, Triple H, Batista.
Oh, uh, evolution?
Yeah, back in those days. That's like, what, 15 years ago?
Lance, that was one of the greatest groups ever.
Yeah, and I'm like, man, I like Flair, his personality and all that,
but, like, they need to just limit his role to just talking shit or whatever,
because I'm like, or maybe slapping somebody hitting him with a chair or something,
but I'm like, when he takes the shirt off and he's going up against a younger wrestler,
I'm like, man.
Oh, gosh, I remember he scared me as a kid because he was still old back then.
Yeah.
And they did the story line where he was doing his Rick Farras.
Flair thing where he was getting all emotional
and grabbed his arm and fell
down and I was like oh shit
it finally happened
yeah
man yeah
but man that dude said
he has a lot of energy
that was 30 years ago
you don't need to be in that ring bro
like settle down man
right
do announcing or something right
yeah oh man
shit if he did
can you imagine
what does he do that you wouldn't
even he'll just be talking by himself to hold on.
That's like,
Philip,
that's like trying to put Tony Romo in as like the third string quarterback or something.
I don't think it would go very well.
I got a lot of respect for Tony Romo, dude.
I'm telling you.
Had his body,
all right,
I'm going to go into a tiny bit of a rant.
Had his body not giving up on him at the very end of his career there
where he kept getting his back hurt,
every time he came in and like started a game,
he could finally see the defense.
He was dominating.
Like I'm telling you,
they got all those kids that came in,
that Dak Prescott took over for Tony Romo.
They totally would have won a Super Bowl,
at least one.
Had he been able to stay healthy.
Well, that's looking pretty good right now,
but like you said,
they're not playing anybody with a winning record
that they're beating.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, we'll see what happens
when they play another real team.
You see.
that that changes the whole storyline so far since we're brambling here the sports returns
sorry Tavares have you have you done anything about this Josh Giddy situation man
I don't know what to say about that because like I saw several different videos while
I was watching where people was reviewing it and they said well it's not the same
It looks like the 15-year-old girl that they're referring to, but it's not her.
It's somebody who's like 20 or whatever.
Yeah.
I saw the same videos.
Yeah.
And I'm like, well, they do look alike, but I'm like, I mean, listen, I'm not about to study the photo and stuff like that.
But my thing is, is that ESPN, like I Googled ESPN all up on Friday morning, afternoon and evening.
and they said nothing about it.
And see, which annoyed me because, like,
I think about what happened with John Morant,
where he was in the car with his buddy flagging the gun.
That's all over ESPN.
Even though, I mean, he didn't shoot anybody.
I mean, I didn't think he did anything illegal with his gun.
But was it immature?
Yeah.
But this whole Josh Giddy thing,
whether if he's guilty or not,
that never stopped him for.
covering other people's stuff, whether if they was guilty or not, it's an
lanch incident.
So I was surprised they didn't say anything on it.
But I did see on Twitter, like yesterday, they said at the NBA, they're hiring investigators
to investigate the situation.
So maybe they'll talk about that on Monday, maybe.
Yeah, I just wanted your opinion because, like you said, I, as far as, like, big news outlets,
it just seems to not be a story other than that.
than on social media.
Yeah.
Because the internet is undefeated.
If he was with a 15-year-old girl, they will find out.
Oh, yeah.
If I saw a video, I saw a video because last night they played in,
okay, see, he had a home game.
And when his name was introduced, oh, man, the crowd was in a big roar as if he was like,
Right.
As if Kevin Durant returned back to OKC or something, you know.
So that's where I'm like, wow, they, I mean, I get it, support your player until he's proven
guilty, but it's like, it's like y'all going, y'all cheering extra hard for him.
And I'm like, this has nothing to do with the game.
This is like, I mean, this is something serious, babe.
Like, because I think he's 20, 21, she's 15.
Like, it's like, come on, man, that's not cool.
But so people say, you know, in Australia, that's okay.
Because if you really, like, Lance, if you really like look into it, like, there's some reports that she might have even been 17.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, in some states, in some states, that's legal.
Yeah, the video I watched, they talked about in Oklahoma, the age of consent at 16.
I think he talks 12, right?
And he's, he's from Australia, which the age of consent in Australia is also 16.
Okay.
Well, that was one of those things that got Russell Brand, too, because that was one of the
they were talking about.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
It was like a 16-year-old, but it was the age of consent.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh, that happened to Russell Brand, too?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I didn't.
Wow.
Okay, didn't know that.
Wow. That's recent?
Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, they went after him.
They cut him off of all the social media and everything.
Yeah. That's why I had been like once a week or twice a week, I get like notification on this podcast on YouTube.
But when I think about it, I hadn't heard anything from him in a while. So, okay. Wow.
I think I think Phillips said it was the week after he did a big exposee on Big Pharma.
Yeah. He was.
He mysteriously.
Oh, okay. Yeah. He knows.
He was over Target is what happened.
All right.
That's the news.
All right.
Tavaris, you ready to go with us into the trailer park, ma'am?
All right, let's go.
Let's go.
All right.
Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.
Brian, what is our first new trailer to talk about tonight?
First, and unfortunately, it's the holiday.
season so nothing new came out but i did remember a guest of ours charles rosney yes i believe he said
he had a role in this movie i think he did yeah and it is the new slasher movie which i think was
supposed to be out but because of the strike it's not coming out till january uh called founders day
founder's day okay uh quick synopsis a small town is shaken up by a series
of ominous killings in the days leading up to the heated mayor mayoral election so what did you guys think
I know it was just a barely wasn't even a minute teaser right right what you guys think
to bars well I'm always down for a good slasher movie you know and it was a part it was a scene on
there where it looked like one of the victims was running and being tell you
on the bridge. And when I saw it, it made me think about, I don't know if you
I remember this movie, it came like a 2010. I think it's called My Soul to Take, I think.
Of course. West Craven movie.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And like, that was one of those movies where I thought it had potential, but there was one
scene like in the beginning where the teenage kid, this boy, he's walking on the bridge.
And normally in those situations, you think something chasing your.
but it's nothing, but it was the actual killer chasing him on the bridge.
I don't know.
For some reason, they looked like that same bridge to me or whatever, but it was a teaser.
It wasn't a lot that I can pull from it because I couldn't really recognize any of the
actress or actresses in the movie.
I'm not sure who directed it, but based on the action sequences when they're showing the killer,
but I'm not sure what type of mask that is.
I'm like, it looked like it could have some, I know what you did last summer type potential to it.
So, I mean, but I liked it as far as teaser trailers goes.
I mean, I enjoyed it.
I thought it was dope.
I'll give it like an eight as far as teaser trailer.
Yeah, it was a pretty good teaser trailer.
Yeah, I'm like you.
I'm down for a good slasher.
Just make sure the kills are good.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Well, yeah, that's kind of the key, right?
Undress the turkey before you put it in the oven.
Then we're going back there.
Dude, that was a great description, Tavarce.
That's rating the trailer.
I never even thought about really doing that.
Oh, I've never done that before.
Yeah, but...
That may have to be a thing.
Yeah, they didn't give me much,
so I don't know how much you really got to work with there.
So I don't know what the killer looks like.
But yeah, I mean, it sort of depends on how the movie ends up.
You never can't really tell.
I mean, I think it was...
a worth it trailer to watch, you know, but...
Yeah, I'm looking at the cast.
I don't recognize a lot of them.
There are some people I only recognize by face, like I've seen them.
Okay.
And other things.
Yeah, one of them I almost thought was that the girl with the big eyes,
Anna, Anna, something.
Anna Taylor Joy.
Oh, she would look a little bit like her, yeah.
But I don't think that's it.
It was.
I don't know who it was.
but she looked close to it
she was in this movie
she would have been all over the teaser
sure no doubt
yeah
the only thing I'm worried about I just
hope it doesn't get too political
because there was some line that was said something like
remember they said something about like
these people need to remember
the real thing our town was founded on
and I'm like oh shit
here we go
we gotta talk about history
It could be any number of oppressed peoples and stuff like that.
And this is what our town was founded on.
So let's not go there.
Let's just make it a fun slasher, you know?
Yeah.
So that's my only concern.
Or any number of revisionist histories.
Yeah.
Let's just go with a fun movie.
What do you think, Brian?
It looked good, right?
It had good special effects it looked like.
It looked well filmed.
The acting didn't look too much.
bad. Like I said, I don't
recognize anybody really
that I can say I know them by name.
Right.
And it could
be like one of them like sleeper
hit movies. Like we
might be talking about it. We
could be talking about it under the top ten
or at least honorable
mentions next year.
It did have kind of a
I can't think of the movie.
He's on.
Thanksgiving?
Purge.
Like where you got the mask?
It had kind of a purge.
The purge.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what?
The mask did remind me of something from, what was it, Purge Election Day?
Yeah.
Ah, that's right.
That's right.
Because it's like Ben Franklin or something like that.
But then again.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But then again, the mask kind of reminded me of the mask from the movie we talked about
last week, Thanksgiving.
A little bit, yeah.
It's like a mashup of Thanksgiving and Purge election day.
Mass.
Well, this comes out.
I'm going to assume
VOD
because I, for some reason, I don't,
it might get a limited theater release, but
January 19th.
Hmm. Okay. Well, we'll check it out. I mean.
This was the movie Charles was talking about. We will
be on the look for you.
Sure. Sure. There you go.
You back? All right.
I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.
I saw it.
everybody were free.
And then I'm doing it.
Everybody's still freezing.
So I said, let me hang up and call back in.
It was freeze-framed on you and you looked irritated.
Oh, it was like, shit.
I thought you were, like, upset about something, but I noticed you never proved at once.
I apologize for that default.
No, or is it?
Freeze frame phrase.
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Regarding the new Beat and Steve versus Camp Crystal Lake,
Zim Vader says it's an excellent list.
all right cool yeah well it's me so yeah of course uh regarding texas chainsaw 2 uh jerry ebert says i thought
dennis hopper was a gas in this movie yeah yes no pun intended he definitely
hammed it up in that movie did to i guess the same least but it was beautiful that's that's my
favorite Texas Chainsaw Masker.
Mine too, man. I like it.
I like it because you can tell Toby Hooper
was like, we're going to do something different
from the first one. Yeah.
Yep.
There's a lot of fun.
Regarding the void,
Mike Batchelor says
Void is fantastic.
I went to high school with Aaron Poole.
Cool.
I assume Aaron Poole probably
has something to do with the movie.
I think so.
Otherwise, that's a weird comment.
Regarding the dark and the wicked,
Ariel Wellman says it's in my top ten of all time.
Damn.
The dark and the wicked.
That's the witch, right?
No, that's the...
I don't know how to describe it.
It was good, but it was slow.
What is it?
Okay.
Slow burn movie, huh?
It's this brother and sister.
they come back home to like take care of.
I think they're dying father.
And there's like some kind of evil presence there.
Is it new?
I think it came out. Neither came out last year or the year before.
You can find it on shutter.
I don't know if I don't.
Okay.
It is on Shutter.
It's good. It's just, I just felt that at times it was a little too slow.
That makes sense.
So, I mean, to each his own, it wouldn't be in my top ten.
Hmm.
Might have to check it out.
I don't know if I've seen this then.
I was thinking of a different movie.
Yeah, I'll have to watch it.
Let's see.
Regarding Eraserhead, Jerry Ebert says, The Amazing Jack Nance.
You know, I've never seen that all the way through.
And you're okay without seeing it.
What do you think, Tvaris?
No, man, it's a classic.
You have to.
I haven't seen...
I have to.
I haven't...
I never heard of Eraserhead.
I thought that was like a fake title off of parody.
Not my cup of tea.
No, it's super fucking weird, but it's...
If you're gonna...
If you're gonna watch horror movies,
it's on the essential list.
You have to.
It's like one of those horror movies,
but it's like a...
It got like a comedic element to it or something.
No, it's just really, really, really fucking weird.
It is super obscure 60s black and white, or is it 50s, whatever it is.
It's crazy.
It's completely insane.
When did that?
Okay, I'm going to check that out.
Erase ahead.
All right.
All right.
Where am I at?
Regarding Dred, Al Ramster says, don't do vape, kiddos.
That's an awesome movie.
It is an awesome movie.
I wish they had to come out with a sequel to that one.
They're trying to do a series with Carl Urban coming back as Dredd.
He did the thing justice, man.
He was great.
Yeah, and he did.
Way better than Stallone.
He didn't take the...
Oh, you're talking about Dess Dread.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't take the mask off or the helmet not once.
Yeah.
Like, he totally pulled it off.
It was great.
Because Judge Dred.
but he's supposed to be like the Mandalorian
like you don't he never takes
his mask off in front of anybody
because he's like because
the original was Stallone
and it's
I gotta show my face every time
all right
Zim Vader
oh I'm sorry
I was gonna say eraserhead came out in
1977
did it really? Oh I thought it was
way earlier than that
what a fucking weird movie man
eraser eraser head or did you
move on
we moved on but I came back
because we were talking about what year it came out of
we circled back
977 Lance
I had to go check on the wife
she's already she's already chopping heads guys
she already just made her Tampa
Stir manager quit
newsflash
right
well
yeah
can't cut it
up Florida.
Can't cut it.
Get out.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
It's there for a reason.
All right.
Regarding five nights
at O, Zimvaders,
and congrats on the 100,000.
So appreciate that, buddy.
Thank you.
It's all up to you.
We appreciate you.
Regarding
five nights at Freddy's,
Marcus Will Turner says,
overall, this is another
implicit victory
for the VGA genre and even a decent step into the horror category if you look hard enough.
We certainly wouldn't mind another visit back to Freddy's with a new story and an R rating down the line.
We sure we'll get plenty.
Yeah.
And I'm sure these lovable scamps would relish another opportunity to spread joy and happiness to the entire family, six out of ten.
I don't know if I said it in our review, but I'd like to see them go the way of,
the Harry Potter movies.
Oh, they went.
Yeah, me too.
Absolutely.
That'd be perfect.
Yeah.
Maybe even bringing Nicholas Cage for a crossover.
Which I probably should have brought up in the cool week.
But since me and my daughter are done with the Fast Ferries franchise, we moved on to the Harry Potter franchise.
Ah, okay.
And I don't remember, because we're on the second movie, I don't remember that movie being
three hours long.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I've tried to show my kids Harry Potter a couple of times, and they didn't...
They're probably all three hours to us.
She's watching it because she hates, what's the little long kid?
Draco, Draco Malfoy.
Yeah, he does, he pulls off that asshole thing.
The little blonde one or the little ginger one?
She likes Ron.
She likes Ron.
Yeah. Okay.
It's just I just kind of glance over at her face every time
Draco shows up on screen and she's just like that.
A little asshole, huh?
Yeah.
I must break you.
He's like that kid in Game of Thrones, man.
They're like super hateable.
Yeah.
Him and Joffrey are the two most hateable people.
I heard he had to quit acting because of his character on Game of Thrones.
He did too good of a job, man.
He did too good of a job, man.
He'll pop back up.
He'll pop back up.
Well, as a matter of fact, he popped back up earlier this year.
He's in some show on like on like the BBC network.
Yeah.
Ah, okay.
I forgot the name of it.
I hope he doesn't play a total dick in that one.
Oh, they would.
I'm sure he would be like trying to do.
something completely different.
Yeah.
I would hope so, yeah.
The most hateable
character in cinema history, I think.
Probably. But you know what? When
you see him now, he looks nothing
like himself. I mean,
he got all kinds of plastic surgery
that's probably good. I'll be honest with
you, like,
probably like in his mid-30s or maybe
early 30s, but he looks a lot older than that.
Is he really?
Yeah, I think so. Because I'm like, when,
Because you know what?
He had a cameo appearance in Batman Begins back in 2005.
Oh, he was the little kid.
Yeah, yeah.
He was, uh, commissioner of Gordon's neighbors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, he was probably like 11 or 12 back then.
So he's like in his early 30s, I think.
But he looks.
Holy crap.
He looks older than that.
I remember the scene now, Tavares.
He, didn't he get the toxin?
And he was like super scared.
I didn't realize that because let me see I'll show my kids Batman begins recently a couple weeks ago and I'm like hold up I'm like that's that's Joffrey
just like who I'm like I'll tell you about him later on but that's Jopry yeah they can't watch that show now
oh boy can't watch that nothing but I'm like that's Jopry wow he looks so yeah I'm looking him up now
Now, Jack Gleason, he does not look.
He does not look like Joffrey.
He was born in 92, so he's not, he's not real young.
Wow, man.
I feel like that was yesterday.
Jack Gleeson, is he a part of the family?
That's what I was wondering, Brendan Gleeson and all those guys.
And see, he has kind of like an old name, too, so that's.
Yeah, no, he's not really.
them. I'm sure they're happy
he's not.
Yeah.
All right. I'm surprised Ramsey not
on that list. Ramsey Bowman, man.
Oh, yeah. I'm sure he's
pretty hated too.
Which is weird because that guy
I think he got a
he was on that Marvel show, the Inhumans
like right after Game of time. Oh, that's right.
That's right. I was like, how are you getting
work? And that show
flopped. That show flopped.
Yeah. Well, it was.
it wasn't it wasn't Kevin Feigy
handling it. It was
the network. Yeah.
All right.
And we got
Jason Gordon. Oh, also on the Five Nights of
Freddy Singh. Sorry, I didn't finish it.
He said he, Jason Gordon said he took his 12 year old
to see it Friday.
And yes, it was relatively
tame, but I'm glad there was
our tame horror movies like this for kids
to wet their teeth on.
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Boys in the Trees and Run rabbit run
And spoiler it was a good week
We'll start with
Hunger from 2009
Five strangers struggle when a madman
Imprisons them in an underground dungeon in this nail-biting horror
director is Steve Hentkis, also known for Talk to You Later.
Yeah.
Okay.
Writer is L.D. Gophigan, also known for intrusion.
Classic movies.
Okay.
I guarantee you, everybody's like, man, that guy's a fucking lunatic.
Right?
For real.
Man.
For real.
I got, like, destroyed his body, though.
Yeah, I know.
After that, he did Batman.
Yeah, right, right.
He got up to, like, 230 pounds after being emaciated.
Unbelievable, man.
Heard, what's his name, hurt his body doing the same thing, Tom Hardy?
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah?
I didn't know he did, though.
That's too, man.
Because he lost weight.
I'm about gaining the weight or losing the weight.
I don't know if it was gaining or losing.
I think, because I know...
Probably a combination.
I think when he put all the muscle back on to do Bain.
Okay.
Because I think he lost muscle mass before to do a role, and then he put it back on to do Bain.
Yeah.
He heard himself.
Yeah.
He had to go to the...
Macanay saying that too when he did, when he lost...
Oh, that's right.
Was that?
That was my...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why he's...
That would fuck him up forever.
That's why he's so...
His face, man.
His face doesn't...
really looked the same ever since he did that movie, you know?
Yeah, that's why he's so skinny in the Wolf of Wall Street.
I think it's the losing weight really rapidly that really fucks you up.
Oh, yeah. I can see that, yeah.
Like, getting that emaciated?
Look, he did not look like, he did not look like himself because me and my wife was like,
man, is he sick? I mean, you know, but he must have just shot that movie like immediately
after he did Dallas Biers Club.
How does Tom Hanks do it?
You remember how does Tom Hanks do it?
You remember him from Castaway.
I don't think I ever heard about anything happened to him.
Well, yeah, but he got, like, he didn't go from one extreme to another.
Yeah, it wasn't that extreme, right?
He got kind of emaciated.
He got, and I don't think he came close to what Christian Bale did.
What?
A cup of coffee and an apple slice a day, or something?
something ridiculous.
I don't know, but like Christian
Bale was like obviously
unhealthy skinny.
They need to just make Russell Crow their personal
trainer and they'll be a guy.
I don't know.
The machinist, they had to have been just
uncomfortable. That was horrible.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Filming the movie.
But Tom Hanks didn't quite do that.
Like he got emaciated, but not like that.
And then he just kind of went back to normal.
It's not like he went back to lifting weights.
they shot the footage, all the scenes where he was small.
Okay.
They took time and they shot footage and then the footage where after he has the weight,
you know, they waited like months or ever long it took for him to pick up the weight
or whatever or something like that.
So they might have just shot it differently.
And then he might knowing Tom Hanks, he might have waited a while before he started
something else for his body to get back right.
true i can't remember what movie he had after that though so that was a thing
yeah because matinee mcanaughey's face still doesn't look right still not quite back
yeah yeah no he's never he's never quite looked the same isn't he trying to be the governor
of texas or something he was he was for a minute yeah he was thinking about it yeah
yeah they and he was on the view a couple months ago man they was um joy joy was
growling and then whoopey had to intervene and it was like all right oh no like matthew was
trying to you know he's very pc and stuff he's not going to have sure sure you know you don't
really see him not getting along with people publicly tom hanks you could tell he was getting
irritated and then Whippy had to intervene.
I ain't doing.
Like, really is.
Like, chill out.
Real it is.
Tom Hanks.
Tom Hanks did
Road to Perdition a gangster movie
like two years.
That's right.
That's a good movie.
That was a good movie.
So it looks like he waited
a good couple years before he
had another movie.
Oh, yeah.
Anywho,
back to hunger.
Sorry.
Devoris, man, what you think about it?
I remember saying, well, first of all, like, when Lance said,
y'all was doing hunger, and I'm like, I'm like, okay, which one?
Because I'm like, there's a lot.
That came out on Netflix this year, and I'm like, okay.
I'm like, I know he didn't say Hunger Games, but I'm like,
it's so many movies about the hunger.
And then he mentioned, once he showed me the picture, the blonde lady or whatever,
and I'm like, okay, I remember that movie.
I don't know if this movie ever was released in theaters,
but I remember watching it, like, or like HBO or something like that.
And I'm like, it kind of reminds me of Saw 2.
Sure.
Everybody woke up and they was in that house, you know,
and they trying to figure out, okay, why are we here?
The first half of the movie, it was pretty, it's kind of dry.
I'm not going to lie, but like that second half, once they got to the point
where it's like, okay, well, we're going to have to unalive somebody so we can feed.
And I'm like, oh, boy, it's like, it has to, I guess.
Yeah, it's like, who's it going to be?
Yeah, who's it going to be?
But I'm not going to lie.
I'm kind of, I was kind of surprised that, because I think it took them probably about,
I think they were still under 20 days when they started to do that.
And then I'm like, damn, man.
I'm like, I've watched naked and afraid a whole bunch of times.
And they're on there for 21 days.
And you never see anybody talking about eating each other.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, but.
Yes.
You know, that's what I'm like, instead of all trying to take out.
Yeah.
Instead of y'all trying, hey, unless the episodes, they never aired on television.
Jesus Christ.
But, man, like, I'm like,
you got a way to get the hell up out of there, man.
Like, you know, but, you know, of course with humanity, you always got the damn assholes offended by somebody trying to help.
They're like, oh, you're not my boss now.
Like, what's that dude?
Say it that shit.
I'm like, he's going to be a problem.
But I like the movie, man.
Like, the second half I thought was real dope.
First half, it was just too slow for me.
I almost want to turn it off, but I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's going to get good.
but it was a good movie.
Good movie.
Pretty intense.
It's hard for me to watch movies on the scenes where they're actually cutting human flesh
and they're devouring it and eating it.
It's like, I can watch a lot of stuff, but like that shit right there.
I'm not down with watching that.
Definitely is weird.
But I couldn't stand the dude that was watching them.
Like, I can't remember what movie I seen that dude.
He looked like somebody, like, when I looked up to casting,
I thought he wasn't an actor who I thought he was,
but I don't know where I've seen that dude from,
but that was just annoying.
You know, he's just all up in the screen like this.
Like, this dude is.
Was it Joffrey?
No, but like for the first, like,
quarter of the movie, I was like,
please don't be Louis CK.
Hey, please don't leave Louis CK.
Hey, hey, I was thinking that because they kept showing the beard, man.
You know what I don't know?
I'm like, I don't remember
he looked like Louis C.K.
But I don't remember him being in this movie.
But I thought it was a good movie, man.
Overall, it was a horror movie.
It's supposed to gross you out
when others are eating other people,
and it puts you in a situation
where it's like, okay,
would I do what this person is doing? Would I not eat?
Or would I eat?
And I'm like, hey, they're starving, you know?
but I thought it was a good movie
I liked it
All right
Brian what'd you think
This one was a rewatch for me
I remember liking it then
But it was closer to when this came out
2009
So I didn't remember
The entire movie
But it was a good rewatch
I agree with Tavares
It was a little slow in the beginning
Just kind of everybody
Just trying to figure out
Why are they there
do they have any connections
I do like your comparison to
Saw 2 because same
same deal everybody trying
to figure out what do we have to
why are we related
why are we all here
and then
or Cube
yeah Cube
too
and I like the cast of characters
because they were all different
and had different reasons of
why you know different connections
that maybe that's why they were there and then of course like tomorrow said you had the guy that you knew was going to be the problem throughout the movie and then it got to the what like day almost day 25 or something you knew yeah you knew somebody was going to do something and then when johnny cage yeah yes that was johnny cage from the original mortal combat movie is that hell was okay yeah uh when when when
it was revealed that he had
some kind of pre-existing condition
and wasn't going to make it that much longer.
I was like, okay,
the movie's about to take a turn real soon.
Right.
And that scene
of when they attack him
and you don't see them eating, you just kind of see
them in the shadows, but the sounds
of them just
treating him like a buffet in there
was disgusting.
Very effective.
My only critique
because I really enjoyed the movie, but
I'm not
completely sure I understand the motivations of the guy
because they have them listed in the castle as
scientist. What are you studying?
Well, remember he went through that when he was a kid, right?
He ended up having to start eating his mom.
He was stuck in the reccar with her, which was kind of silly.
He achieved his goal then because he got a time.
a day when they started eating each other.
Yeah.
How far do you need to go?
What is...
Yeah, but he got...
The blonde beat him, right?
She won.
She beat him because she proved, you know...
He was trying to prove that, hey,
what I did was justified
because every single human thing in the situation
would be the exact same thing.
And when she didn't do it,
that's when she told him,
I beat you, motherfucker, and stabbed him with that bone.
And now, how the fuck she...
out of there after not eating for 45 days.
I have no idea.
I kind of have a theory that I kind of feel like she died when she got out.
I kind of do too.
Or maybe,
I think she was going to grab for the next rung and fall down.
I know.
I felt like when she climbed out and she was looking at the sky and then it just went to white.
Yeah.
I kind of felt like she just,
her body gave out.
I think that's highly possible.
Highly possibility
Either way she still wins
Yeah
But yeah
I still valiant
Yeah I still don't
Just really see
The complete
Game plan for what he was trying to do
Good point though
And
I mean I like that they did the flashback
They kept cutting back to him as a child
In the car Rick with his mother
And he eventually to survive
Because I think he was
There for like
two weeks before anybody found them yep right but you say if okay so this is where i was going to go
with this earlier um you say eventually when to survive yeah but like they do a flashback and it looks
like it's kind of immediately yeah i mean they could have did a better he couldn't wait to eat his
last back. Like he
he turned he realizes she's dead
turn us to the side and
immediately starts cutting pieces of her arm
off to eat immediately he had a look
on his face like about time.
Yeah
yeah because I was trying to figure out like okay
so how long were they there because
it never went from night today
it was still nighttime it was still
snow and
yeah yeah
it just
like 30 40 months
Well, Lance, which almost gives your thing a little more depth to it because he's trying to prove that anybody would do it in this circumstance.
Yes, I think so.
He did it immediately.
Yeah, because he's a fucking psychopath, obviously.
So I think that totally makes sense, and I didn't think about it until he said something.
And this movie is also, I have to compare it to my cool to weak, Squid Game to Challenge.
Because that girl did not play the game right.
she tried to seduce one guy
and just totally left out the other guy who
we knew, you know from watching the movie,
even though he was like the calm, quiet,
didn't do anything guy, you know he was going to snap.
He's over here playing with cockroaches and
eating moss.
He's lived an entire life of trying to be as good as possible
and getting fucking wall.
on and he's going to die because of these goddamn people.
I can totally understand his perspective.
Yeah, he was done.
He had it up to here, guys.
He was done.
But, yeah, it was a good rewatch.
Lance, what did you think?
Yeah, yeah, it was a good movie.
I definitely see the, you know, the saw comparisons.
I mean, it kind of reminded me of the first saw, too, right?
where they all, you know, wake up in the bathroom chained and whatnot.
So, you know, they had a lot of that.
Like I said, I really think that the whole point of the movie was this dude, again,
just trying to justify, you know, why it was cool that he did what he did,
because like any human in that situation would do the same.
And like, he kept, like, every time he saw him do something he thought they were going to do,
you can just see that smile.
And like you said, all you can see was the Louis C.K. part, the red,
red mustache
but um yeah i just wish there was
he's he's writing down data
and notes
yes i just kind of was like
can i can i see your notes
what are you writing down
drawing pictures of boners like jackie treehorn
yeah it was kind of
it was kind of a kind of you know an interesting
study on humanity and what would happen if
And so you did have the one guy that, you know, the older dude that had the pre-existent.
He was the only one who was like thinking straight, right?
Because he's like, hey, let's pull this, let's pull this Shawshank Redemption deal here with the wall where we like slowly take this little tin can and cut away the brick and then everything.
I don't think it works that way, does it, Philip?
If you move.
Oh, yeah, no.
You get one brick out.
You can definitely get the rest of them now.
He said, Lance, he said he's a contractor.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he, because then you just have more leverage on the rest of the stuff.
The problem is, you know that you're underground.
Where do you think that leads to?
Yeah. That's kind of what I was thinking to.
Like, where's this going to get us?
Yeah.
Boy, did I feel sorry for that fucking, that poor, you talk about being in the wrong place
of the wrong time trying to have a fucking makeout session.
No shit, right?
Jesus Christ.
That was fucking brutal, man.
I thought he was going to put them down there with him.
I'm kind of shocked that he ran him off the cliff like that.
Didn't you guys see that coming?
No, I was, because I'm trying to, like I said, it was a rewatch for me and I didn't remember everything.
And I'm like, oh, these are just more people he's adding.
That's what I thought.
It cuts to them zip tied to the seats.
And he's just rolling the truck off the cliff into the water.
Well, you can't contaminate the experiment.
Okay, so what I think he should have done that would have made the whole experiment even more interesting and brutal is, okay, so what were there?
There were four drums filled with water, correct?
Yeah.
Okay, if I was him, I would have one drum filled with clean water.
I would have another drum with like really nasty muddy water with like rocks in it and shit like that, right?
So once they all get done, and I watch them fight over the clean one and then once they get done with that,
move on to the dirty one,
then I would have one that I'd literally take a shit in.
They're like diet,
put on diarrhea and mix it all in there.
Aw.
And then I'd have the fourth drum fill
with like paint thinner or something.
That would,
that would make the experiment,
even that much more cruel,
but what do I know, man?
I'd pour the paint dinner in the shit drum for sure,
first.
Oh,
try to neutralize the smell.
Yeah,
But it was kind of interesting how he made sure that they had, you know, water to live.
And then you notice the one guy that, like y'all said, you know this guy's going to be a problem.
He's in your fucking, like, slobbering in the water.
Like immediately.
He can't even take the fucking cup that's provided as a courtesy.
It's just drinking.
The dude has to, like, slobber.
And they're like, hey, jackass, maybe don't do that.
And he's like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to hawk a loogie in here.
Yeah, there's no point in the...
Seriously?
There's no point in the movie where you feel bad for him.
Everybody's telling their backstory.
Sure.
You kind of feel, you kind of like, okay, I understand, you know, with this person's backstory, her backstory.
But then when he tells his backstory about killing somebody in a grocery store or a convenience store that he robbed, he was like, I had to do what I had to do.
And then the music plays.
And I was like, I don't feel sorry for you.
Yeah.
She made me do it.
Not at all.
All she had to do is just give me the money.
She made you rob the store and shoot her.
All right.
Yeah.
No, I enjoyed it, though.
It was a pretty cool, it was a pretty cool little exercise in human behavior, I guess you would say.
And I do understand the motivations of the killer.
So, you know, not a bad film.
Not a bad pick.
Legion, we appreciate it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I felt like I had watched this before, but maybe I didn't, because I was super impressed with it.
I was thinking about a movie that I watched not too long ago called The Man from Earth.
And it was...
David Bowie?
Oh, that's the man who failed it.
It was this guy who's in a room talking about how he's living.
forever basically and it's in a room full of he's like a college professor i think i talked about on a cool
the week uh a while back but he's like this college professor and he's talking to his friends because he's
retiring and the reason that he's retiring is because eventually people start to notice that he doesn't age
and so he's telling them this whole story but this is the way to do a low budget movie
you put a bunch of people in the room you have a great writing and you let them act you know and like
I think a lot of low budget movies try to go for it with the really shitty special effects and
it doesn't really work that way the time the time lapse blood yeah I think if you have
if you have good writing and some some relatively decent actors
you can pull off something like this, which I had a really good time with.
It was a cool kind of experiment, you know, like you were talking about.
It was like a science experiment.
You watch and you see what happens with these people, and you wonder, what would I do in that situation?
And you're kind of thinking that the whole time.
But yeah, man, I had a really good time with this movie, and I was impressed.
It was a good pick.
All right.
Scores.
Tavarist, what do you think?
I'll give it a 7.5.
7.5.
7.5 for me.
Brian.
Yeah, I think I'm right there, too, 7.5.
I thought the acting was solid.
I thought the story was, for the most part, had me engaged with it.
It was a little slow in the beginning.
I did want a little more with the quote-unquote scientist.
doctor guy just a little bit more of his character because at first I thought they weren't going to reveal him because they were only certain showing like his mouth or his eyes and then we just got a halfway through just full out just so here he is and I'm just like oh you're just a regular guy doing some kind of science project and then we get the flashbacks and I just a little bit more with his character and it probably would have up my score to a eight but overall solid movie seven and a half
All right.
Lance, what do you think?
Yes, yeah, solid movie, man.
I'll give it a seven.
I wasn't expecting this, because when it started, I thought, oh, fuck, here we go with just another goddamn saw rip-off, right?
I thought it was going to follow every single beat.
But it didn't.
It went in a different direction, so I definitely appreciate that.
Give this one a seven.
Well, I appreciate it a lot from a technical aspect of just using what you have to the best of your ability.
You know what I mean?
And not throwing in stuff that doesn't need to be throwing in.
I like the two guys in a room type of movie.
You know what I mean?
And I think that they did a really good job of that and doing something with not a lot of budget.
and after having fleshed it out a little bit and Lance you talking about your stuff where it was an experiment and giving the motivations to that guy who I hadn't really thought about before I want to give this movie an eight man I had a really good time with it.
It was great. We all recommend that one.
Next is Boys in the Trees from 2016.
Did you ever let down a friend?
Did you ever say that you'd be there for someone?
And then you weren't.
It's a plan for tonight.
Little trick.
Little trick?
The freak gives me the creeps.
It's he done to you?
You want to run with the wolves. You gotta kill a few lamps.
So which one are you gonna be?
These guys don't get you.
We're teenagers.
Nobody gets us. It's half the fun.
No.
Everyone has somebody who understands them.
Jonah. Hey.
Hey, I'm sorry.
Walk me home.
I'm not going anywhere with you.
You owe me, old pal.
And only one appeared towards the end of the film.
That solves the anachronism issue of ensuring the vehicles were period correct in the film.
Oh, yes.
Because it was set in the 90s.
Okay.
I got you.
Uh, all right.
So Tavares, what did you think about boys?
the trees. I liked it. I have never heard of this movie before. And a lot of times, yeah, it's hard
for a movie to just skate by me like that. I'm like, if I hadn't seen it, okay, maybe I've seen
a trailer or something on it, or some type of advertisement. I think the movie, what was the
movie made in 2016? So when I watched the movie, like,
It literally feels like it was made like in the late 90s.
Yeah, I got that vibe too.
But it's like they did an awesome job of catching that vibe because I'm like,
this looks like something that I would have watched back in 98 where I would watch
scream one, screen two, and then the craft and I can put this movie right.
Yeah, the craft.
I thought of that big time.
You're watching it the whole time going, have I seen this before?
I know. I kept thinking the same thing.
It was just one of those movies where it's like, it was like straight to HBO and it's like, you know.
But I'm like, I never would have guessed that this movie was made in 2015 or 2016.
I thought, once again, this is another movie where I'm not, I'm unfamiliar with any of the actors in this movie.
normally I can least find somebody I've seen in something.
Some of the actors in the movie look like somebody I've seen before,
but I haven't seen them in a movie that I can think of.
But I thought, well, they're kids to me,
even though they're teenagers in this movie.
So I thought they did a brilliant job in this movie.
I'm not sure if they're actually like 25-year-olds playing teenagers.
But I thought the acting was good, directing was good.
Well, that one dude definitely was.
The heat pleasure.
Looking like.
The bully kid?
Yeah.
That guy was 30.
Yeah.
Easy.
Come on.
Go on.
Highlights.
John highlights.
I'm sure he has to be 30 because he looked way older than everybody.
I'm like, how many times were you held back?
Right.
Kind of like the 90210.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
and he had the Dylan chops and I was like dude you can't even grow those in high school it
doesn't work that way and think about it they had to do makeup and stuff to try to make them look young
so imagine how he looked coming on to the set he probably looked a whole lot older
he needed to shave too right but yeah man I thought the whole storyline of it was was pretty cool
you know, it kind of kept me guessing a bit.
I mean, it had a little bit of that,
it's just like you take a movie
like The Craft or Scream, you know,
they had a lot of generic things
where it's like, you know, it's not him, you know,
it's not her stuff.
Yes, yes.
But at the same time, it kept you,
unlike
hunger where I thought
the first half was kind of dull and dry.
I didn't think,
I think most of this movie was not
dull and dry. So,
I love.
liked it. I enjoyed it. I highly
recommended. I'm definitely going to watch it again
because it
gives me that late 90s
vibe when I'm 15, 14,
15 years, 16 years old
watching my group of movie
screen craft. I know what you did last summer.
I'm probably going to add this to that collection
whenever I watch those group of movies together.
So I enjoyed it. I thought it was good.
All right. Brian,
what do you think? I
really enjoyed this movie. I had
heard about this movie, it's been recommended to me, but everybody told me it takes place
in Halloween.
So in my mind, I was always thinking this is a Halloween horror movie.
So I try to watch those in October.
And it just, when October comes, I can just kind of forget about it.
And when I watched it, I wouldn't necessarily say this is a horror movie.
I say it's more like a fantasy.
Yeah, that's in there.
But there's definitely some horror elements.
Yeah, very little.
Maybe a coming of age almost, but...
It's got a lot of aspects.
A little bit of all that.
I would kind of go more of fantasy coming
of age.
Okay. Yeah.
And I thought it was beautifully shot
the dreamlike sequences,
the flashback memories,
when the one character,
the one that was getting bullied,
tells his stories,
and it kind of takes us back.
and puts the characters in there.
They're not really in there.
It's just like they're looking at the memories.
Like, we're looking at them too.
And I'm not going to lie, this movie.
This movie kind of got me because the scene where he's getting to basically say sorry
and say things to his friend that he never got to say.
I recently, a couple years ago, had my best friend pass away,
and I never got a chance to say certain things.
to him and I probably never well get a chance to say that to him and then you know trying not to get
all choked up here but um you know it just kind of hit me and I thought it was a beautiful
moment and then it just kind of pulls the rug right out from underneath you coming to find out
that his friend's been dead right because they said he's probably in the water for since like
the yesterday afternoon or something like that and just
I have questions about that.
The fact that he got, even though it kind of led you to believe that he was talking to his spirit,
I thought it was a beautiful moment that he got to say what he had to say to him.
And yeah, yeah, I will 100% recommend this movie when people ask about it.
What's your question, Philip?
So, like the timeline thing, when did the kid really don't?
and like was there like he had because it's lit some of his wrists right but was that just because he was a cutter
because he was I assumed that was a cutter thing I didn't really take that into it but like I was thinking
I think they said when he fell in the water he he hit his head yeah well that's what they said and
I was wondering if that was really what happened because that's not like dude I had all kinds
of theories because it was about maybe three quarters of the way
through the movie when I was like
oh he's
dead isn't
yeah that's he's been dead this whole time
because he kept having the moments where he
he's there and then he's not there
and he's over here now yeah
and another thing well and then
when it was in the convenience store
and he was like on the outside with the makeup
still on I was like oh he's not there
well there's a lot of points where
there's a lot of points where he goes some
place and he always waits outside.
Yeah, I didn't notice that. Okay, yeah.
And another thing that we talked about the 30-year-old high school bully friend.
I kind of like his turn later in the movie because when they fell out and had their fight,
he realized he kind of felt what the other bully kid was feeling of not having that person no more that you felt super close to.
and then they had that moment where he came to the lake
and he just basically didn't really have anything to say
but became like that shoulder for him to cry on
yeah i thought that was a good part to his story
yeah but yeah like did he die at the
i mean i guess it was in the afternoon
because i assumed that he died
when he fell off the ramp
I think he died
But was that all?
He was still a ghost?
I think he died before he got to the skate park.
I think the him saying I might have hit.
I think him saying I might have hit my head and I might have a concussion.
I think that was alluding to him falling in the lake and hitting his head.
Yeah, but at the skate park, the other kids were acknowledging him, right, and bullying him.
Oh, at the beginning.
Yeah, he was still alive.
So it would have had to have been right after that.
The second time when he came back.
to the skate park.
Ah, okay.
Oh, my God.
What if?
Well, that's it.
When they beat him up and he fell and hit his head, he just had a concussion.
He walked home and he fell and...
Yep, that's what it was.
They killed him.
Makes perfect sense.
Yep.
It makes perfect sense.
All right.
Worked that through on air.
Yep.
Lance, what did you think about it?
No, this was a, this was a beautiful film.
I did not expect this at all.
So, okay, a lot of the sequences were,
very very very Stephen Kingish and I don't mean so much like the it movie and stuff like that but if you
read the Stephen King books he works a lot of fantasy into that and like where you know he had the
he envisioned a werewolf because what was really happening to him was like so traumatic to think about
he he envisioned it as a werewolf or a monster and that's what a lot of the kids in the Stephen King
books end up doing because they've got you know like the one girl you know her father's abusing her at home
So, you know, is it, is she really sing Pennywise or is it just, you know, something that her trauma is creating?
And Stephen King always gives you that question.
So I think whoever made this film was a big fan.
The soundtrack was fucking phenomenal.
So it's just a great, right.
Put you right back in the 90s.
Oh, yeah.
Everything.
The music, the way they dressed, I felt like I went to school with these kids.
Yeah.
They didn't, they didn't fuck up once.
They didn't fuck up once.
And I love the decision to keep the cars out of it.
I was just about to say that.
I love that they paid attention that much to like, let's keep.
Because I'm now thinking about it, I don't think I've seen a car anywhere.
Everybody was on bikes or walking.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
So the first thing I thought about when they were going into the De Los Marthos scene, as they call it,
I'm like, okay, this is Australia?
Is this really a thing?
in Australia.
Because like here in Texas, it's a huge thing.
But but.
I think it's, isn't it specifically Mexican?
It's specifically Mexican.
And it's really beautiful, though, the way they filmed it.
And then the dude that they had singing at the end there and just like, that's when
you realize that I've been walking around with someone this whole time who's not really
here with me.
So I don't know.
Did you guys think it was more psychological like in his brain?
Or did you think it literally was a ghost?
because I tend to think it was a ghost.
I think it was a ghost
kind of using the memories
and stories that he was telling
to just kind of...
That makes sense.
So when I thought that
when I thought that
he had fell on on the track, on the
skate park and died,
I thought it was
him
suddenly going back and playing this fantasy.
game to try to like push down the memory of him actually dying right there in front of him.
But now that we've been talking about it and I realized what actually happened, yeah, I think it was a ghost for sure.
Yeah, good, good movie, man.
This is pretty, this would have been one of my top ten if I'd seen it.
I don't know how I missed this one.
And it's really funny because I've heard two or three different podcasters cover this movie.
this year, like over the last month or two.
And I don't know if maybe because it is the
Halloween theme, so they wanted
to cover it during October, but it's kind of
funny how all of a sudden you hear
all these podcasters talking about this movie.
It's like the cosmic unconsciousness
coming together. I think I heard the name thrown around
a couple of times. I have to, but I've never seen
it, man. And then Legion
recommends it just like that. It's like, boom,
that's magic. So
yeah, great thing.
Lance, can you reach out to them?
Because from now,
I would like to know
if they're not available to come on here
with us, the people that do Patreon picks.
I like to know why
the movies they chose
were chosen.
I'll find out for sure.
And then, you know, obviously we still have had a commentary
coming. Yeah. So we'll try to get
at least two or three. Because, you know, Legion
is Legion. So they have
hundreds, if not thousands
of podcasters.
Yeah, that's why I said Legion.
I didn't know. We all are.
to each one.
Still trying to figure out why Jeff picked the initiation.
Yeah.
That is a good question.
We had fun with it.
We had fun with it.
Yeah.
All right.
Boys in the Trees.
Yes, man, I had a really good time of this movie.
It was, I was glued to it trying to figure out what was going on, what kind of movie this was, what was going to happen next, the whole
It had my full attention.
And I can't believe that I hadn't seen it and I had only heard little rumblings of it because it was a pretty fantastic movie for what it was.
Like it was it had its little bit of like fantasy feel good stuff.
It had its like real horror sections.
It had some really uncomfortable stuff but not too much of it.
it to ruin the movie.
It was a really fantastic movie, man.
I loved it.
Like, I finished watching this movie and I was like, damn, dude, he picked like some bangers.
And this is one that I hadn't seen before.
So I was impressed with it.
All right.
Scores, Tavarz, what do you think?
Oh, yeah.
Before I give them a score, also, almost.
every movie that I could think of when I go on my Xfinity app or whatever and I type it in the search
engine it'll pop up this movie didn't even pop up so that's what I had to watch really I had to watch
on you I saw a great copy on YouTube actually yeah yeah yeah oh really I ended up I ended up watching it
on YouTube and normally like because after I watched it I say man let me check out like I follow like
email reviews um Jeremy John's reviews and stuff
Let me see what they said about this movie.
I'm like, Jeremy Jones didn't cover it.
And I'm like, type of in the boy in the trees, the boys in the trees, movie reviews.
And only probably about like, only about four or five of them came up.
And the rest of it was kind of just like clips of the movie or a trailer or something.
That's what I'm like.
Sure, sure.
Wow, I'm like, this is literally a diamond in the rough, man.
I mean, I'm like, nobody is even talking about this movie.
And for me, my downing in the rough at all has been frail to, Matthew McConae.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
But I'm like, this one here is.
Paxton.
Yeah.
Paxton, sorry, Bill Paxton.
This movie here.
Wasn't the president.
And Matthew.
And Matthew McConae, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, this here, this, this.
That's the president.
Part of me is like, okay, have I really any expectation set for it?
Was I just impressed on?
on that, but I'm like, the fact that I want to watch that movie again, like, to me,
for my rating, I'm going to have to give it a, I give it an 8.5.
I thought it was dope.
You know, I don't know any of the actors in this movie.
So it's like, it's not like it's a situation where it's like, if there's a Denzel movie
or Matthew McConaughey movie, well, it automatically gets two or three points because
they're in the movie.
But, or Arnold.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know anybody in this movie.
And I'm like, hey, I liked it.
That kind of added to it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very impressive.
Very impressive.
So I get 8.5.
All right.
Brian, what do you think?
Lance, if this was an Arnold movie, it gets an automatic five.
Because you've already won half the battle.
Right.
I'm going to have to go 9.5.
Holy shit.
I thought this was a beautifully made movie.
It got me in so many ways.
Even the scenes with his dad, just like, I know that feeling of when your kids get older and they don't want to do shit with you no more.
But you still got to, you know, you're still going to be in their lives and stuff.
And I just like the way the dad just kind of handles situations.
And then you got that scene when his friend dies at the end and he goes to the pay phone.
he's calling his dad.
He's just like, I need you, I need you.
And then the dad was there, showed up.
Yeah.
You know, I felt like this way,
I would think if I was in that situation,
I would be able to be calm, cool, and collect
and just, you know, be there for my kids
in a situation like that.
And there's so many just beautiful moments in this movie,
sad moments.
And I thought that,
Tavares, I agree with you.
I don't recognize anybody.
in this movie and I thought
I don't think there's one person
I was just like I you did a bad
job I thought everybody did a great
job in this movie and
I too tried to
you too after I watched it I tried to pull
it up on YouTube to see if anybody's talking
about it see if there's one of those
you know
explain or whatever yeah yeah so I can
because I like Philip I had questions too
about some scenes but there's
like nothing and I just hope
that just becomes, as time grows,
it just catches more of an audience,
becomes like a cult classic,
and a lot more people should talk about it.
So, great movie.
Yeah, it did you in a lot of different ways.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Yeah, I'm going, I'm going eight and a half as well.
I would have said probably eight
until you got to the Dia de la Smarthos scene.
Just because that entire scene was filmed so perfectly,
like the makeup was just a song point the song was gorgeous
both of us haunting right
dude we should have the it could not have been a better choice
we we we should have done a Mandy watch with this one dude
yeah yeah we would have gone down the rabbit hole
but yeah no I think that a lot of I think I think
I think the uh the cinematography in this was like
top-notch. I love the, I love the Halloween scenes. Like, they didn't overdo it. Like,
have people jumping up going, ooh, steady kids, you know. They just had that, they just had
that sublime, you know, Halloween look in the background. And then they're all, you know,
doing what kids do, right? With toilet paper and trees and being assholes and shit like that.
Breaking, busting pumpkins and whatnot. Yeah. But it's, like Phillips said, it's, it's a great
coming of age tale.
because you just watch this kid just go through all the emotions and situations.
And there's even a girl involved and falling out with the friends and then reconnecting with a friend that there was no part in the beginning where you thought they were even ever friends.
And then you get this flashback.
They were friends.
They were best friends when they were little kids.
And then he just kind of left him to go be with this other crowd.
And then you even get the moving on where he's still talking.
talking to the girl and he's like in New York following his dreams because that's what his friend told him to do.
Yeah.
Fix that Wi-Fi though.
Yeah.
Me?
Oh, my behalf.
Well, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's how they show you.
That's how they show you that it was a bit of a time jump, right?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, because it was 97 to Skype, which is what we're using today.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, it was like a ghost story with like a coming of age story in the middle of it.
I think I've expressed how impressed I was with this film already, man.
It was very happy with it.
It was surprisingly good.
I'm going to give it, I'm going to give it an eight and a half.
And it may only go up with time.
It was so surprisingly good for a movie that you've never heard of.
Into the Spider-Verse territory, guys.
Yeah.
On our scores.
All right.
On to Run Rabbit Run from
23 on Netflix.
Can people come back?
Come back from where?
From where they go when they die.
Looking forward to your party.
Is Daddy coming?
Happy birthday, sweetheart.
Hi, Daddy.
How you been coping?
Mm, good.
I'm sorry for you, loss.
Your dad was a kind man.
I miss Grandpa.
That's a too, bunny.
Dr. Gregory, we'd like to meet with you to discuss your mother Jones condition.
Joan, me is your granddaughter.
Hello.
Don't be sad.
That's enough.
Sarah Snook plays a fertility doctor who believes firmly,
firmly firmly uh the production has been uh the third feature of the film from the finance stream
to get green lit uh run rabbit run uh tavaris what do you think about it well just like with the
previous movie you know you had a lot of questions this movie like left me with a lot of questions
and like watching the movie like me and my wife was watching it and we couldn't just watch
it to, well, it's because of me, where it's like, normally we're watching movies, just let it
flow, let it play. But I kept stopping the movie because it was certain scenes in the beginning.
And I don't think this even really matters with the plot, but it kind of does.
But in the beginning where her ex-husband brings home, the little bring home, brings home to
his current wife's three-year-old son. And the little boy hit the girl in the hand with a hammer.
Yeah.
She reacted perfectly.
Yes.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Like, I stopped
me and my wife was just,
me and my wife talked about this thing for about 10 minutes.
And I'm like, okay.
I, but see, she didn't,
she wouldn't have to have to call for a little shit if the kid's mom would have
reprimended the child.
At least say, hey, what you did was wrong, don't do that.
And then the little boy's about to do it again.
Yeah, I'm like, I would have told her to get this little punk out of here.
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
At that point, it's acceptable to slap the shit out of the child.
Yeah.
And then.
And the thing about it by the little girl, the seven-year-old,
okay, that she would have retaliated with this, she's in the wrong.
But it's like, if you're not stopping your child,
child, you're forcing the other child to defend him or herself. Okay. And you're forcing
somebody else to probably call your child and you a name. That's what I'm like, just take the
hammer out of his hand. That's what I'm like, what the hell? And I hated the excuse that he's three.
He doesn't know any better. Get the hell out of here. Well, okay. He doesn't understand.
He's the teaching moment then. Right? You're supposed to be correcting them. Well, before three. But when they
three. Yeah, because you don't let today get to be a freaking teenager because how you're going physically
stop on me, you know? You're already three and you're punching people. This is a really good,
fixable moment. Next thing, you know, he'll be, next thing you know, he'll be eating people and then
bearing me and doing experiments. He understands, let's go get, he understands, let's go get cake and
ice cream. He should know that you understand not to get somebody. It's not right. Yeah.
Yeah, so that's what I'm like, okay, it's like, okay, come on, man, that's, that's not right.
And I'm like, see, I didn't read the full synopsis of anything on the movie before watching it.
I just started watching it.
And I'm like, so is he going to end up being a killer in the end of this movie or something?
Because his mom is telling him, not telling him what's right, what's wrong on this.
But I don't think we saw the little kid anymore in the movie.
But anyways, this movie here, it literally had me questioning like, okay, what the hell is this lady seen?
Okay, like...
Yeah, there was some weird shit going on, man.
Because my wife recently, she's been showing me these videos that pop up on Facebook where these little kids are saying that they've been here before.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, and we was just talking about that, and I'm watching this movie, the little girl, she says that, I want to see,
Joan. Yeah, I miss John. Yeah, you don't even, yeah, you don't even know Jones. Right. Well, I tend to miss
people I don't even know or something. I haven't met. That's what I'm like, mm-hmm. I'm like,
it was intriguing, right? It was intriguing. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, who the hell then crawl up
inside this child, man? And I'm like, okay. And then it's like, as time goes on, you kind of see,
like, okay, this is something looks like it hit close to home with this family. And I'm not going
a lot throughout the movie, I kept getting confused
because I'm like, is she
seeing her sister or is she seeing
her daughter? You know, like, it
was very, very confusing.
I thought the ending
was a little bit confusing.
Hey, no spoilers. Hold on.
We got a whole spoilers because
we got a whole spoilers. Okay, I'm a
whole spoiler. Oh, we're doing
spoilers on this one. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
All right. But, well, I tell you what.
it has that element of like a it reminds me of like the ring mixed with the six cents
and it's going to keep you guessing it has his dull moments but it's going to keep you guessing in the movie
or whatever man but it like it's so many questions i have with this movie it's just ridiculous but um it it it didn't really
scare me. Like, it felt more like a, more like a, like a murder mystery type movie to me.
So, but I thought it was a good watch. It is something that I'm probably going to rewatch again.
And hopefully, like, whatever questions that I do have, I'll be able to find answers to it when I rewatch it.
But overall, I thought it was a good. Okay. All right. Brian, what do you think?
Yeah, I like this movie.
I thought it was a good,
it was more of a psychological thriller.
And I kind of see where you're saying,
Tavares, about it being like a murder mystery too.
And I thought Sarah Snook,
I thought she did amazing in this movie.
And she, her booty looked amazing too.
I don't know if you guys have heard about her booty.
I think she's in that show that you watched,
to fill succession.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never really noticed.
I always heard about her butt on social media and stuff. And then there was a
see, never mind. That's a whole other. It's not bad.
That's another podcast. Yeah.
Oh, oh. Oh, oh, Brian. Hey, is that a spoiler? You talking about that? Is that a spoiler?
No. It's not.
Everybody can have that one.
That's the draw to the movie, man. I thought the little girl.
was fantastic for her age to do some of the scenes she was doing.
Yes.
And I did, there was times I did get confused, but then there was other times I think I
understood and it was just kind of putting pieces together.
This movie to me was like your sins coming back to get you kind of type story.
Yeah, okay.
Sure, sure.
And there was some low moments, but.
I think it kind of built up into the suspense scenes for me, so I didn't really mind it.
And there was some moments.
I was like, I don't know if it was the score of the movie in the situation and a combination,
but it kind of genuinely, it wasn't scary, but it kind of felt creepy.
Yeah, off-putting, right?
Yeah.
And I kind of liked that.
It made me ask questions because I think that was the point of the story,
was to keep you guessing,
because we all might have different outlooks
of how the movie played out,
and I think that's how they wanted the movie to play out.
So another good one,
I really want to know
a Legion podcast
why they pick all these movies,
because they're all unique in their own different ways.
Yeah, they are, but like these two are Australian,
and the other one is not that I know of them.
true.
You're going to make me look to see if
it was Australian.
I'm saying, there's always
like a theme on like two of them
that you can connect and then the other ones
Right.
Maybe Hunger is this
Patreon picks the initiation.
There you go.
One of these is not like the other.
But yeah,
I enjoyed it.
Lance, what do you think?
Oh man, you guys know me.
I love a good slow burn.
And I love it, you know, I love a good, you know, human story where it's like a small cast.
And, you know, there's something going on that you're not quite sure what it is.
And you keep guessing numerous times through the movie.
But this one, man, this movie just didn't, didn't grab me the way that I, I guess I was expecting.
So I kind of like the way that it started out.
And it was like super creepy and it was very atmospheric.
And yeah, Sarah Snick's pretty, pretty easy on the eyes.
I don't mind.
I don't mind looking at her.
You know, she's got a good build.
She has great crazy face, too.
Yes, she does.
Like, what's the actress from Handmaid's Tale?
Oh, Elizabeth Moss.
Yeah.
She has a great crazy face like her.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
but for me guys
number one this one was just a little bit too slow
and number two I still
after seeing the movie I didn't have that
aha moment like I did with Boys and Trees
like where you had the one scene where okay
that's what this whole movie's about
and then we were able to go back and figure out what happened
and kind of recreate the timeline in our minds
based on that moment
this one never never yeah this movie never gave me that moment
it was just too fucking all over the play
Like, for example...
Well, you guys are going to explain to me in spoilers why I'm wrong.
But, like, for example, there's one character that slammed somebody's hand in the door because they're pissed.
And then they slam their own hand of the door.
And it's like, fucking why?
I don't get it.
I thought that was going to go somewhere.
And to me, it didn't.
But, yeah, when y'all were talking about sins returned, I kind of now see it a little bit, the guilt and all that.
I think those scenes that you're talking about, I think they're more so revealing.
how what kind of a person she is?
I guess. I guess. I'm going to pass the baton. I don't want to get into spoilers.
And this was my least favorite of the three. I'll put it that way.
Wow. Yeah. All right. Well, I can see that. I still, I enjoyed it. I had seen this one before,
but I had kind of forgotten that I'd watched it. Oh, that's not a good sign.
I guess that's probably... It just came out like three months ago. I know, man. And
I guess that's probably not the best sign in the world.
Yeah.
My life is busy.
I forget a lot of shit.
But I do think it was a very clever movie.
And I think it had a very generic ghost story sort of feel to it.
Okay.
Where, you know, some of those movies are great and some of them are not, you know, like the boy versus, you know, the other.
the one with
fucking Nicole Kidman
what the hell was that movie called?
Oh, the others.
The others.
Yeah.
So, yeah, like the boy versus the others kind of thing
where they both had sort of the same feel
to them.
But, you know, one was pretty good
and one was kind of not.
Yeah.
Run,
rabbit, run.
I thought it was not bad.
It also had a little bit
of a Bobbadoop field to it.
It did. It did.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I liked
I liked
where they went to it.
With it, I think maybe it was
a
more extravagant story
than it maybe should have been for the
explanation that was given.
I would agree. And I'm going to say
it here, guys, maybe
a little too much of a Babadook
feel?
Yeah.
Like we've gone beyond paying homage
and now we're just kind of aping the same beats.
A little bit, I don't know.
I'd be a little harsh.
Acting was fantastic, I thought,
through the whole movie, it was just,
it had some really slow parts.
I like the reveal.
I like the ending.
It just took a long time to get there.
Still a good movie, though.
I mean, like with some of the shows that we've had, dude,
right we've been watching some shitty movies and it was like dude
you just watched like three really good movies they had some good picks
yes can't argue with that this this one at least
deserve some credit fair enough all right uh scores and then we'll go to
spoilers chavars what do you think um well it was funny that you had said that uh
it took them a long time to get to where they needed to go to on the movie because
I told my wife that several times, and I'm like, they probably could have wrapped this movie up in probably an hour, to be honest.
Yeah.
But I understand, I understand.
A tale's from the crypt episode.
Yeah.
But I understand by being the movie, you want to at least make it.
Right.
78 minutes or 80 minutes, and it's like 80 minutes would have been perfect for this movie.
You know, but I did appreciate, I mean, I thought the acting was good.
I thought everybody understood the assignment.
Like, you know, especially, especially the little girl.
I mean, she, she did that role.
True, true.
Like, there were certain parts of the movie.
She kind of reminded me of like a young Michael Myers or something, you know, as far as...
Wow.
Okay.
As far as the creepiness and stuff.
Sure.
I get more into detail on it, on the spoiler, because it's hard for me to tell that part without spoiling it.
But overall, it was still, like...
I had moments where I was like,
come on, sleeping.
Yeah.
So because of that, I'll give it a seven.
I'll give it a seven.
Oh, nice. Nice. Okay.
I really enjoyed the acting. So I thought about giving it a six,
but I'm like, man, I like the acting. So I'll give it a seven.
All right. Brian, what do you think?
Yeah, I'm going to be right there with him.
I thought this was a decent psychological thriller with a little
bit of mystery added to it. I do see what you guys saying about how they could have got to things a lot
quicker. But I think we'll get into spoilers. I think it was all part of the story, how I took what
was really happening. And I thought overall the acting was great. And then I got to give a credit
because it had Charles Manson from Mine Hunter playing her husband. I don't know if you guys had Seamine
That's where I'm
Which he was also
Charles Manson in
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
That is the same guy
Is it really?
I know that
Because I was watching it
And he popped up
And immediately when I seen his face
I was like, you look familiar
But
The accent was throwing me
Yeah, that also
For you an accent
We'll throw you off
And then I looked him up
And he was the guy that played
Charles Manson in that show
And that movie
I'll be damn
okay okay but it to me it's a don't get typecast it's Charles Manson
so seven for me seven nice wow all right
Lance what do you think oh man for a for a little while there guys I was starting to think I was
watching Killers of the Flower Moon this was for a two hour and 50 minute movie this just felt like
it it just went on and on and on and on and on and I just stopped
I don't know, man.
I hate to say it, it just kind of bored me a little bit,
and I still am super, super confused.
So I pray that in spoilers,
you guys will explain everything to me
because I'm totally still confused.
But I liked it more than I didn't,
so I'll give it the old liked it more than I didn't,
five and a half.
Ooh.
You know, hey, it's not bad.
That's not bad.
Not bad for Atlanta score.
You never can't tell you.
Yeah, that's like that.
to drop a drop a deuce on it, man.
No, that was last episode.
Oh, okay.
I think I'm going to go seven also.
I think that's a pretty good score for this movie.
So,
better than not psychological thriller kind of horror movie
that really has a big ghost movie vibe to it.
I liked it, though.
It was good.
It may not be one that you remember, but it's not one that sucks.
So there's that.
All right.
Spoilers.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
All right.
What are your questions?
No, somebody explained to me.
I don't think
some of these events actually
happened. I was wondering
that at one point, but then you noticed
that certain characters were still interacting with it.
At the end when the
father came.
Okay. Yeah. And they had to go
searching for the daughter and they found her and she
was all bruised and cut up.
Why was she still at
the house with her?
I don't know.
I wish I would.
I wish I knew.
Wait, the daughter?
Yeah.
She wasn't still at the house with her.
She was hiding in a, like, fire patch.
No, no, after they found her, because if I go,
badass kid that hits other people, I'm not going to.
Especially if she's cut up into bits and has been pushing off the edge of a cliff,
which is what I assume happened.
I think.
But, you know, the father was still there.
But he wasn't, he wasn't there when she pulled.
pushed him when she pushed her off a cliff yeah i think but that was the sister but i think she did
her sister off the cliff when she was i think she did the same thing to her daughter yes no don't
yeah i think she did the same thing i think that she did the same thing to her daughter and when they
had that like and she like went into regression and started coloring on the floor and then when they went
to go look for her she was like hiding in this little like briar
patch or whatever, but it was at the bottom
of this lake. It was
at the bottom of this lake that was at the
bottom of that cliff. So she pushed her
off the cliff into the water.
Her daughter just happened to survive.
Her sister didn't. I mean, that's just...
What's with a fucking rabbit? I mean, what's the
significance of the fucking rabbit?
The rabbit is her sister.
Yeah, and which also
also...
It goes to her sister.
I'm lost. Also,
as a nickname, the
bunny thing was also a nickname.
for the daughter also.
Yeah.
That's like Jeller Roll's wife, Bunny.
I don't understand why they're doing the bunny thing.
What?
Is there something I'm missing here?
Like, did they have a lot of kids?
Like, they just kept fucking, like, rabbits or?
I don't know where you got that from.
But then they go to their way to say she's an only child.
I, and then, but then the sister that she killed, I'm lost.
I don't get it.
Which was also a fucked up thing.
thought we decided she was going to be an only child well not up to you to decide yeah yeah
that right i just how i just took this movie i felt like it was her sins coming back to her okay yeah
she was not a good person she never was a good person she was trying to put this facade on with her
her profession and trying to be a good mother and just like the most
damning line in the movie
was when her
child was like, you're a horrible
person. Yeah.
I think, oh yeah,
that's rough. And I think
that was coming from a place of not
something that was happening in that
situation. That's
coming from a place of, no, that's how you always
are. Yeah.
Yeah, well,
you know, the fact that
you see your child, like,
really likes this,
bunny rabbit and
you go in the fucking fucking
like you tell the bunny rabbit
I get the hell up out of here or whatever
you know it's trying to throw over a fence
yeah and that right there
it's like I can see you opening up
the gate all right get up
out of here but you lifting the bunny
rabbit up and going to put it over
the fence right and then
you're putting the rabbit in a position to where
he or she has to fall down
yeah you're going to get
You're going to get fit.
And then it was crazy.
My daughter's got a buddy. He's kind of an asshole.
The daughter is up on the balcony. She sees this.
Right.
And it's like, you're not going to go up there and I'm
that's what I'm saying. I felt like she's just always this person because
she had no look of, oh, I just was about to do something bad in front of my daughter.
She just had it look like, I don't care.
But check this out.
So she gets bit by the buddy.
Right.
Now, she's doing ultrasounds for other people.
They never showed her getting checked.
Like, you're working with other people.
You know, you're a doctor or whatever.
You're not going to, like, I don't want you doing an ultrasound on my wife.
And you got bit by dog on rabbit, rabbits and some characters.
Jesus, man.
You know what I'm saying?
He didn't know shit.
Ravis.
The rodents.
You know?
That's what I'm like, what's wrong with this lady?
Like a bubonic play or some shit?
Oh, you, me.
The seven-year-old girl's father,
so the scene after they filed her, like,
by, like, that pipe or whatever,
or whatever that was, that little tunnel.
Okay, so they take her back to the house.
Like, I don't know if y'all noticed this.
Like, the dad was laying in the other.
the bed face down and a pillow was on the back of his head.
She probably killed him.
That's what I'm like, did she say?
Jesus Christ.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What, when, what happened now?
I missed it entirely.
After they found the daughter.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
The bar is saying he was, he was in the background, but he was laying there with a
pillow over his head.
So you remember the point.
She was a bitch, man.
When she was holding her daughter, she was saying what she did was wrong.
You remember that part?
I guess, yeah.
Okay, so in that same room, there's a second bed in there.
Uh-huh.
And they showed it real quick, and I have to pause, and I say, hold up.
I'm like, is dude dead?
Because he was laying face down on the bed.
Very, very 8-20.
Oh, my God, wasn't he?
Very, very A-24.
Yeah.
Dude, I didn't even notice that.
That's a trip.
And I'm telling him.
I didn't notice it either.
I'm like, okay, so they had plenty of dull moments in this movie that I feel like they could have left out.
Right.
The part where I guess she did murder her ex-husband.
Or maybe that's how he sleep.
I don't know.
But if she did murder him, you're not going to show that scene.
See.
See, I would.
He's just sleeping.
See, I would.
about him again after that.
And I was guessing that's the reason why the mom was finally okay with confessing with what
she did because if he's dead, then he's out of the picture.
Of course, he's going to take his daughter, call the cops on her property.
But that's why I think he was dead because now nobody can tell on her.
And now she's confessing that, oh, I'm sorry.
for what I did, what I did was wrong
and all that. Because I think a lot of
the quote-unquote
good moments in the movie,
I don't think they were ever happening because
when we get
her laying down with her daughter
and then we cut to another scene and
a room is all trashed.
I think all the
good stuff was happening in her head.
Wow. And then
she would snap out of it. Like you
brought up, Phil, how she
woke up on the floor regressed to it.
kid colored on the floor.
Coloring. Yeah, coloring Babadook pictures.
Well, which is what I assumed is probably how they found her after her sister went missing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, okay.
Okay, so is it actually the ghost of her sister or is it just her fucking losing her mind?
Yeah.
I think a little bit of both.
Okay.
Because I think at the end when she was confessing, I think she was confessing to her sister just a way
the little girl was asking her questions.
She had a whole different demeanor.
That's sort of what it felt like,
is that she was, like, confessing to her sister.
And then the last scene is...
Yeah, you see her sister taking the daughter out to the cliff.
Yeah.
But...
So is that, like, the ghost of the sister
is, like, taking the daughter out to die?
Because that's sort of what it implied.
Yeah, like I said, I felt like your sins are
coming back to hurt you.
Yeah.
Okay.
I felt like the daughter was out of dead.
I felt like some was, I don't know which part, but I felt like she was already dead because,
so you remember the part where her and her husband, okay, they was looking for that
daughter and she thought she saw her in the, in the water.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that was, I think they never found her, the husband.
Yeah.
I think she saw, she's seen her at the bottom of the.
She sprinted.
Yeah.
See, she sprinted.
rented to that water.
Yeah, because that's what she did with her sister.
Yeah.
Now, in the end,
when she's looking out the window,
she's seeing the notes of her
sister with her daughter.
I think the daughter is already
dead because when you think about it,
they're walking very, very slow.
And she's just standing
at the window. And I'm like,
they're going off to heaven.
Yeah.
They're going up to heaven to be.
I don't think they're going.
She would have took off running and caught her daughter because they hadn't even made it halfway.
Instead of yelling through the window, right?
And you couldn't hear her yell or anything.
Right.
So, but what about the part where she finds her in the, like, little briar bush or whatever?
I don't think that happened.
Some shit that made up in her head.
Maybe so.
Like, she maybe had already killed her husband?
Because that was after she jumped into water and seen her in the water.
Maybe she wasn't really inside the house screaming, Brian.
Maybe that glass window partition where you couldn't hear her at all was like her own brain killing her.
Keeping her trapped in hell, watching her sister and her daughter runoff together to be in the land of the dead.
I don't know.
I just, like I said, I took it as.
It's just too many questions for me.
I just took it as her sins were coming back to her.
Slowly we were getting revealed to what kind of person she was.
Like that scene with the scissors
where her daughter's bleeding
and she wants to cut her hair to see
where it's bleeding and she's just cutting her daughter
with the scissors. Oh yeah. That
that was weird. That part
that had me jumping because I'm like
why are you getting scissors? Like
what are you? Yeah. And even
even after that she didn't even really
feel sorry about what she was doing.
All right.
Can we move on?
So it's like they sort of did some mysterious, some mysterious shit.
They like had some good ideas, but they maybe didn't really have a good way to tie it all together.
Yeah.
That was my impression of it.
Well, shit, that may have dropped my score slightly.
We're good.
We're good.
DeVaris, thanks for joining us, man.
Where can our listeners find you?
Check out the podcast on YouTube, TikTok.
Yeah, I finally got Instagram going now.
So Student of the Game Podcast and also on Apple Podcasts as well.
All right, Student of the Game Podcast.
Check it out.
And yeah, I got back on TikTok, Brian.
I know I wasn't supposed to because I was worried about the Chinese government.
Well, we all agree.
It shit's addictive, man.
We agreed that all our devices are listening to us.
That's true.
Is Zuckerberg that much, really that much better than, right?
Z. Ging or whatever?
He's busy training for his MMA fight that he'll never have.
Oh, hey, okay.
All right, well, we want to thank all of you guys for listening.
I totally pay money for that, by the way.
I think we all would, especially if Elon Musk joined in, but.
Oh, he's, Elon's not beating that robot, Mark Zuckerberg.
He has an android.
He's going to have to drop, they're going to have to drop him into a vat of, like, you know, burning metal or something at the end.
And he goes, bye-bye.
As a finale, it'll be Elon Musk pulling off Zuckerberg's face and it's actually a robot, like I-Robot underneath.
It's probably going to be Tom from MySpace.
They're going to put on...
Oh, wow.
They're going to put on...
I would have gotten away with it too.
O'Brien everywhere.
All right.
As always, we want to thank you all for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.
We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.
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We're going to have all the new, I say new.
Steve made them a year ago, but I'm finally going to get them up.
They're new to everybody else.
Yes, some animated characters that you guys are going to love.
next week
the Christmas season begins
with 1984s don't open
until Christmas and the brand new
it's a wonderful knife
that will be streaming
on shutter December
1st
just in time for Christmas
okay
you get it it's a knife
starring
Justin Long
oh no
all right
sold
Wow, full circle.
Oh, king.
Scream king.
Man, oh, man.
All right, Philip, until the horror returns again.
Good night.
I say new.
Steve made him a year ago, but I'm finally going to get them up.
They're new to everybody else.
Yes, some animated characters that you guys are going to love.
Next week.
The Christmas season begins with 1984s don't open until Christmas and the brand new.
It's a wonderful knife.
That will be streaming on Shutter December 1st.
Just in time for Christmas.
Okay.
You get it.
It's a knife.
Starring Justin Long.
Oh.
No!
All right.
Sold.
Wow.
Full circle.
Oh, king, scream king.
Man, oh man.
All right, Philip, until the horror returns again.
Good night.
