The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #394: Await Further Instructions (2018) & Hosts (2020)

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

This week, we continue our Christmas coverage with Await Further Instructions and hosts. Cool of the week includes Wrestlers, School Spirits, Chucky and of course The Dallas Cowboys. Trailer is Fallout. The podcast spotlight shines on Santa Mira After Dark. And we get feedback from Xim Vader, Fans of the Dead, Marcus Wilturner, Marcey Papandrea, Tim Davis, and Ariel Wellman. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome everybody to the horror returns.

I'm Lance with me, and I actually have a bed this time. I'm not sitting on the floor, so we get that. I was about to say you look a little bit taller this time. Yes. Yeah. It's an air mattress. Much more comfortable. Fortunately, it's not an air mattress.

It's a foam mattress. It's comfortable as fuck, man. I may sleep in here, actually. But this is the guest room for when we have people come out for, like for when you guys come out for Universal Horror Nights, Brian. Yeah, looking forward to it. I have not been to Florida. It's probably been 22 years since last time I was in Florida.

Are you allowed here? I mean, there's no warrants or anything, are there? I wasn't, I wouldn't say, on here. Beautiful state. Sunny and rainy y'all at the same time. It's gorgeous, man. And there's so much natural wildlife here, which is beautiful. Great state parks.

Look out for the alligators. Look out for the gators. Oh, shit. I forgot to announce my esteemed co-host, Brian and Philip. What's going on? guys? Dealing with this weather. We're in the

best of another not as big as last time, but small snow snow. You're in, you're filming one of the Ice Age movies up there, huh? Yes, I am in the new season of True Detective, which takes place in Alaska, but not filmed in Alaska. You know how they

do in these TV shows. Oh, come on. Let me guess, like, East Eastern Europe or something or Russia? Yeah, my daughter looked it up, I think, somewhere overseas. Siberia? Siberia. That's right. It's not that far away.

Oh, man. What else took they don't run into Zelensky while they're out there, like, top, you know, with his shirt off, you know, with his arm raised up in the front of a tank or something, right? I don't think anybody's going to Siberia. All right, Ben. you're like walking around on a glacier all the time. I would think so. Brian, is it glacier or glacier?

Tomato tomato. Well, Brian, what's your cool of the week, man? Oh, what did I watch? I know I think Phil, I think you talked about it a while ago. I checked out that Adam Sandler movie on Netflix, Hustle, the basketball movie. Oh, yeah, great movie. Yeah, great. I fucking loved it.

I thought it was a great story. I can't pronounce the guy that played the lead character, the basketball player he finds in Spain. I thought he did good job for not being an actor. Yeah, I like legit. I thought he was like, is he an NBA player? Yes. Okay, he is. I was going to, I was like, I thought he was a pro player, man.

He was killing it. Yeah, great story, great acting. Say what you want about most of Adam Sandler's movies in the past few years. when he really wants to do something serious, and he's a fucking great actor. Dude, fuck that. Even his silly movies are great. Yeah, they are what they are.

Well, he'll be Halloween, not so great. Well, okay, but... I can understand both sides of that one. It was still a lot of fun. It was just really stupid. Oh, okay. Yeah, so 100% recommend that. Checked out.

Of course, me and my daughter watched the... the season finale of Squid Game, the challenge. Who won? Oh, no, you can't say, right? I won't say, but I think me and Phil picked the same one to win. That person out of anybody just continued to play the game correctly. Yeah. That was my favorite from the last few episodes, at least.

Since, you know, half the people that were in the last few episodes didn't even. even get introduced until the last few episodes. Kind of weird, huh? The way they did that. Finished Reacher, season one. I think season two starts this week, so I'm definitely excited about that. Great show. It is a good show.

And I was just up late the other night and just was on Netflix and just threw on something. I found this documentary called Wrestlers. Wrestlers. Okay, haven't heard of that one. I feel like if you're a wrestling fan, you have to watch this. And if you're not so much a wrestling fan, I think you should watch this because it kind of gives you a look into the life of an indie wrestler and an independent company. Because the company used to be like a developmental company for WWE, like back in the day. And besides WWE and AEW, they're the only wrestling company that does live TV weekly.

Okay. And it's kind of you getting into these lives of these wrestlers, you know, a lot of them, this is their life. Some of them, you know, have aspirations on making it to, you know, WWE and the companies hemorrhaging money and gets kind of partners bought into it. And one of the partners is a fucking real big asshole. And I'm really surprised nobody beat his ass during this. it's a docu-series it's not a dramatization that that's what i was wondering if it was like just a single movie or a series sound like it's a series yeah it's the guy that bought into it he's one of the guys that bought into it he's a radio host sports radio host you know casual wrestling fan

bought into it and saw how much money they were losing and immediately tried to tell wrestlers how to handle wrestling business and doesn't work too well yeah so great show i ended It's seven episodes. I ended up binging it in like two days. Nice. A lot of familiar faces. The wrestling company is called OVW, like John Sina, Patista, or Brock Lesnar. A lot of those guys got their start there, like back in the day. Some big names, man. Yeah. So it's just interesting to see. It's a good journey through the story because, like

I said, they're losing tens of thousands of dollars a month and they're still trying to keep the doors open, trying to figure out how to pay the wrestlers, and, you know, it was a good story. And I think some of the wrestlers at the end, they said, actually got signed to bigger companies. Okay, yeah, I was wondering, like, was it a distinctive end or was kind of like open-ended? It didn't say if the company stayed open or not, it just kind of disreslure. She just happened to say I just got offered a contract from such and such and other wrestlers. You kind of know if you watch wrestling, you kind of know they have it or at least something to work on to get them to the next level. And then some of them are just kind of like that movie The Wrestler.

Working behind a daily counter. Yeah. A lot of them, because there was one guy, he got signed to a developmental deal. and before he even debuted in WWE, he got released. And he went through a lot of depression and stuff because he was like a big star in India and moved to United States. And just kind of got cut without even getting really getting a chance to even do anything. It's got to be tough, man.

Oh, man. He should have rebranded himself as like Dalton. Yeah. But it's a great show. already hitting Neseo asked if he's seen it. He said no. And I was like, you need to get on this. And I honestly, I kind of feel like if you're not a wrestling fan, I think you'll just get involved in the people in the story. Kind of learn a lot, if you check it out then. Yeah. And they teach you like wrestling terms because, of course, you know, the Netflix documentary crew is kind of like, they'll say something.

And they'll be like, you know, what does that mean? And they'll break it down. Right. What do you mean Mark? Oh, we all know what Marks. All right, cool. So that's got to be your... Yeah, that's my cool. Yeah, that's the winner.

Okay, that's... We don't even need to ask Philip what his cool of the week is, do we? Yeah, I actually did think of a thing that I watched, but first we go cowgirls. First we'll start with Dak, huh? Yeah, man. Well, not so much Dak is the defense.

Defense. I'm telling you that Cowboys defense, If they bring their A game, nobody's stopping them. Yes, absolutely. As long as the offense plays half-ass decent. They fucking destroyed the Eagles, and I was listening to Dak in an interview this morning, and he said, we should have, we should have scored 50 points. Hell yeah, they should have.

That's what I'm saying. They still screwed up, but they kept the momentum, and they kept killing it, and the defense showed up, and that is the difference. so I this we'll see how it goes I hate I hate to get so hyped up on them because you know they've disappointed me every year well at least they ain't the saints man hey they still got a shot too that sure sucks yeah no kidding they're all I think all four teams are tied or something yeah well except the panthers oh yeah they have one win win Brian, who's your team again?

The Texans, right? No, I tried. I tried for a season. Hey, they're having a good season, though. Yeah, they may make the playoffs. This was years ago when I tried. Yeah. I mean, I guess by default, I guess if I went, you know,

you always end up being who, like, your father's team were, and he's from Baltimore. So I guess I could be a Ravens fan, but. killing it this year. All right. I don't know. I haven't really paid attention enough to football. I haven't really been paying enough attention to basketball.

Mm-hmm. I see the rockets aren't horrible. I think if the playoffs started now, I think we would get that last playoff spot. Playoffs are a long way away, Brian. Yeah, Houston had a lot of opportunities to win it and they didn't do it. So there's a True. There's a lot of guys on the

Rockets. I'm just like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah, me too. But I also, I just thought of it while you guys were talking. I watched School Spirits. School spirits. Never even heard of it. On Netflix. I think it's actually

like a Paramount Plus or something. Yeah. But it's got the chick from Cobra Kai in it, the blonde girl. Okay. And she's like the main character and she died. And so she is like in the afterlife. She's a ghost with these other ghosts that inhabit this school because they all died on school grounds.

So they're stuck there forever. I get it. Their goal is to cross over. But, you know, they can see all the regular people. And so. So do they use the line coach? I don't think we survived that crash. No, but there was, there is a whole, like, band section that I guess was coming back from a championship.

Oh, no. And they had a bus crash. And they cannot accept being dead. And so all they do all the time is practice. So they're out there in their little band uniforms just circling around, playing their instruments, doing a marching band thing. And there's like 10 of them. So it has some comedy elements to it then. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Okay. And the girl from Cobra Kai is still a little one note. I don't know if she can, like, run a whole show. But this one is a lot better. Peyton List. Peyton List. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, okay, the show's not better than Cobra Kai, but I'm saying she's better in this than she is in Cobra Cuy. Okay. Is that just because she's kind of a heavy in Cobra Cye or is that? Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. She seems whiny in Cobra Cye. And she's just, she's just.

Oddly shaped head. Yeah, she does. She's just very one note. She's got an oddly shaped in everything. I mean, she's, she's a pretty girl, but she is. Uh-huh. Yeah. Got like a stewy head.

But maybe, maybe. maybe a good little actress coming up, man. I like her in this. They've got some pretty good characters, and it was a lot of fun to watch. I started watching it, and it caught my attention and kept it. It's only eight episodes.

They're coming out with season two pretty soon, I think. That's really my only gripe about it, is that season one ended on kind of a cliffhanger. You sort of found out what you wanted to know, but they didn't answer all the questions. So did you say Paramount Plus or Netflix? So I think the season two is coming out on Paramount Plus. I think that's what it was.

Okay. But Netflix just got it. Ah, so we can see it on Netflix right now. Yes. And I don't know how long ago they got it, but I remember seeing previews for it. Yeah, it's probably part of that thing we've been talking about in the past where all these streaming originals are just popping up on other. Yeah. Because I guess all the. DC movies are on

Netflix now. Oh, really? So if you got Max... Instead of Max. Yeah, so if you got Max to watch the DC movies... You're fucked. We're doing a really good job of selling all their shit to everybody else.

Yeah, I was going to say, but you do get the travel channel, which has no travel shows now, but just like fake ghost shows and shit. Yeah, I was excited when... I was excited when they merged with, was it Discovery Plus? Yeah.

You get, you know, all those. Cooking network and travel channel, food network. Naked and afraid. Yeah. Fantastic show. But Lance is right. They just got, it just seems like they got an abundance of ghost hunting shows. And they all seem like the same thing, but with a different title.

Pretty bad stuff, man. But yeah, I'll put those both eat. Well, all right, Cowboys has got to be my cool of the week because they're at the top of the heat, fine. Although if Philly wins out, which they probably will, they'll still win the division. Yeah. Anything could happen, man, right? Yeah. We'll see.

All right. So I'm going to start with a not-so-cool of the week. Brian, are you doing your 12 days of Christmas, as you promised? I... Can I count the movies we reviewed? Sure. I have I have six then

because besides the movies reviewed I watched I was saying some lines from home alone and then my daughter was like didn't remember any of that stuff

I was saying so we rewatched home alone yeah I watched that on the other day and then Max has this thing where you click on their holiday movie collection and there's like little

gift boxes and you click on one, and I guess that's like the movie, holiday movie you watch that day. Like an advent calendar, huh? Yeah, and the first one was... Fred Claus. That's a good one. That's actually good one. That's fine.

Okay. Yeah. That was funny. Ludacris for some reason as an elf. Why not? Is Tyrese an elf with him, too? No, they didn't go to space in this one. man, all right.

So look, you know I'm doing the 31 days like I do every year, but unfortunately this year. Yeah, well, dude, unfortunately this year, man, there's, there are so many fucking Christmas movies because Hallmark might have started the trend, but, you know, then, you know, the Oprah's network followed pretty close behind that. And then what's the other one? not Hallmark, not own, but the third one that's like... Lifetime. Lifetime. Yeah. Then Lifetime.

Okay, now you've got the same exact... That Hallmark was Lifetime. Well, look, dudes, you've got the same exact formulae movies with literally the same exact plot. And now they're... Okay, so now you've got Tooby Christmas movies. You've got Freevy Christmas movies. You've got Paramount Plus Christmas movies. You've got Hulu Christmas movies.

It's all the same. exact fucking plot. You can see everything coming from day one. But I have made I've made a revelation. And this is not, you know, this isn't as stunning a revelation as when Sean over at the geeks

determined that Star Wars was the greatest franchise ever. It's a different type of revelation than that. It's quite simply every single one of these movies is basically a porno, but without any hardcore sex.

same type of acting same wooden delivery same you know somewhat good looking but not quite and I feel like they have a

like a group of actresses and actors like maybe like five to ten in each group and they just cycle them through every movie well we've already seen one actor show up

in three of the movies we've watched so yeah basically you've got the same exact type of people that would be in pornos, they're like kind of good looking, but just not talented.

And not quite... Yeah, not quite good looking enough to be a model. So, hey, let's settle for either being a stripper or a porn star, right? So, yeah, I've cracked the code, guys. It's literally... So that's why I'm so frustrated watching these movies, because I keep

expecting something to happen that doesn't. And I'm really fucking disappointed. So... Did you watch any Bruce Campbell? Hallmark movies yet? No, but now that I know they exist, send me a couple of links, Brian, so I can like insidiously

sneak those into our 31 days. I know for sure these are like legit Christmas Hallmark movies. I think he's done like two or three. Well, look, we all love Bruce, but I don't care to see him naked.

But if some of the females and some of these Christmas movies choose to get naked and do hardcore course sex, I'll watch. Who's going to get home some sugar? I imagine that's definitely going to happen in a Hallmark Christmas movie. Okay, cool of the week, Brian. They've only done four episodes in the new...

I'm wondering, is this going to... No, I think I know what's going to happen next. Okay, so I'm watching the new season of Chuckie, and I love the flashback episode that explains how he ended up in the White House. you know, what the, what the logic was for Chucky ended up ending up in the White House, and it was great. And, you know, obviously you've got to have Devin Sawa playing the president, right? Because what's a Czechie season without Devonsala? You got your, you know, regulars back, and you got a lot of, you know, cameos and people show up.

Kenan Thompson, did you, have you seen him all, Brian? Not yet. Ah, Keenan Thompson shows up as a cab driver. and everybody who shows up, they're literally just cannon fodder. They're there to get taken out by Chuckie. So this show does everything right. And I'm thinking, where can they possibly go from here? So he's infiltrated the highest office in the free world.

Well, next season, Brian has to be Chuckie in space. Am I right? Chuck in the hood. Ah, they haven't done that yet. Yeah. A lot of possibilities. I think space, maybe season, what are we on season three now? Yeah, this is season three.

So we don't want to oversee as well. Okay. All right. Go out on a high note, right? Yeah. All right. He's going to murder some aliens. Cool of the week.

Chuckie. Brian, we have any headlines? We got a few. First, I don't know why this is news today. I thought it was already a done deal, but Lauren Lavera, she was the star of Terrifier 2. Yes. The final girl, she is confirmed to be in Terror Fire 3. And we've known this for about a year now, so.

Yes, I don't know why this is top dudes today. All right, just to confirm. Yes. Speaking of Max, speaking of Max, they signed an exclusive streaming deal with A-24, so their movies will go. straight from movie theaters to Max from now on. Oh, that's huge. And I believe, I think they said the first one that is coming to Max is that new Nicholas Cage movie dream scenario. I thought about going to see that.

I mean, Nick Cage. Yeah. I heard a lot of people said it's good. It looks good. Yeah. And he's got another interesting hairstyle in that movie. It's got the Mr. Burns thing going on. Yeah, Nicholas Cage is an interesting dude, man.

I'll watch him in just about anything he's in. Let's see. Saw 11 release date confirmed September 27, 2024. But wasn't the last one 11? Oh, but Spiral doesn't count. Yeah. No, Spiral was 9. No, Spiral doesn't count.

I thought it did. Okay. Well, look, we already have. proven it frightmare we don't know we don't there's a shit load anyway when it comes to saw franchise we don't know anything uh let me scroll down here i think there was something big uh sony i think is going to make their their little sub label screen gems okay uh specifically horror related so and they're basically they're going to push screen jams to be like a big whole movie studio.

Oh, competing with Bloom House. Yeah. Shouldn't be that hard. Yeah. Although, when you guys come for like September October for Universal, rumor has it, there's going to be a five nights at Freddy haunt. Yeah, I heard that.

Oh, that'll be cool. Yeah. Which, uh, that... Pretty creepy, huh? I think that has become the most profitable movie for Blumns. Of all time? Yeah. That's crazy.

It is crazy, man. Especially considering it was streaming concurrently. Yeah. I think that's it. Excuse me if you guys hear people on the background. I have family over. Okay, well. A dog's trying to attack every one of them.

Oh, good dog. Good dog, chase him out. How old is he now? He is, he'll be one in February. Yeah, so he's still a big old post. I think that's it, guys. All right. Just those few things.

On that note, Philip, you ready to go down to the trailer park? Let's go. All right. Brian is going to... Sounds good. Brian's going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer, Brian? Our first and only trailer will be the new series.

Sorry, my mind went blank for a second. Oh, it's a series. Yeah, coming to Prime video. And that's Fallout based on the hit video game series. Just from watching the trailer, a couple of people I recognized off top was Walton Goggins and Kyle McLaughlin. You can't go wrong with Walton Goggins, that's for sure. I've never played the video game series. I want to.

My goal is to at least play one of the games before the series comes out. But I thought the series looked pretty fucking amazing. Mm-hmm. And I got the gist of the series, groups of people kind of locked themselves in these vaults during a, what, like nuclear explosion or something. Yeah. Okay.

Like it's a nuclear fallout in the 50s. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cold war, but it actually happened. Yeah. Ah, I didn't even realize it took place in the 50s. Okay. Well, it doesn't because they've been locked in a vault for decades.

Yeah. So you got these different groups of people that are locked in these vaults. And then you got, from what I understand, you got groups of people that didn't make it to the vaults. And they're kind of mutated. Mutated. The vaults finally opened. They exit and they find out that there were survivors that were like that didn't have the vault access or whatever. And they just continued on society.

Some of them are mutants. Some of them are zombies. That's crazy. Great idea. Great idea for a video game and a TV show. I'll be watching every episode. Some of the insects are abnormally sized insects, like super large cockroaches. Yeah.

Oh, wow. And you've got to watch out for the water to make sure you don't get radiation poisoning from it. Oh, man. That's like that old board game, that old game Gamma World. You guys ever heard of that? Uh-uh. No. Yeah, it was set.

up like Dungeons of Dragons. It was another game by Gary Gygax. So it was kind of like, you know, that Car Wars and all those different. But Gamma World, it was basically, you play it like D&D, but you're in, yeah, like a post-apocalyptic

post-fallout world. So like, you know, you can open a can of beans and eat it and die because it's contaminated. Kind of like the Oregon Trail, but like a tabletop game. Yeah, it's an Oregon Trail. you get dysentery.

Dissentery. Yeah. It definitely looks cool for a movie. I'm sorry, we're done with the synopsis and all that junk? Yeah, it's a series. Yeah. Well, yeah, it definitely looks cool for a series, but like, I enjoyed playing Skyrim more than I enjoyed playing Fallout, and they're from the same people.

Okay. Okay. That might be kind of a cooler thing, but harder to accomplish in a TV series. I think this one actually looks cooler as a series than something like a Skyrim. But I like it, man. I'm excited about it. It looks pretty awesome.

What you think, Lance? Yeah, it looks like it has some comedy moments in there, too. Oh, yeah, for sure. Not sure how many episodes it's going to go, but, you know, as long as I keep it to, like, you know, 10 or less and don't try to do a Walking Dead thing or something like that. And I loved in the trailer. I loved in the trailer. They said from the studio,

from the producers of the boys and the same company that brought you two-day shipping. Yeah. So we know what to expect. There's probably going to be some raunchy, raunchy stuff going on, I'm guessing. Yeah.

So it looks like the series will premiere April 12. Yeah. Prime's got some good stuff coming up. And if Flanagan ever really does make that Dark Tower series that's going to be some good shit to watch on Prime, man, so I'm all in.

I guess his next thing is going to be a movie based off of Stephen King adaptation. Life of Chuck. Yeah, starring Tom Hiddleston. That's got to be good, man. That's a pretty good book, man. It's a short one.

It was one of those that came in a series of four novellas. So I think it's one of those that kind of goes in reverse, like it starts off with him on his death bed and it goes backwards in time. So it could be some interesting stuff in Flanagan's hands, I think. Do they have any

casting for the Dark Tower? No. I don't think they've even got it confirmed, do they, Brian? No. It's just one of those things they heard he's coming to Amazon and the people were like, you know, and Amazon was going to make a Dark Tower series, but they kind of

show it. Oh. So, they were like, well, you shelved it, but now you got Mike Flanagan over. Why don't you just give it to him? Wow. Hell yeah. Let's keep Matthew McConaughey out of it, please. I like that. Yeah.

Not in that role, though. Not in that role. Well, yeah, he just... Everybody sucked in that movie. It wasn't just him. He wasn't certain enough. He just felt like I just wanted to hang out with him. I know.

Well, and then he would, like, touch people on the forehead and kill him. you know, the man in black would never do that, man. He would be like, he'd play with his food before he eats it, you know? I thought Idris was good as the gunslinger. He had some cool more. He was not really. I didn't. Sorry, but I've read all the books.

I think he could go with the same cast and pull off something really amazing. You think so? Yeah. I'm ready to try a new cast. Yeah. Well, if it's Mike Flanagan, we already know the cast. Oh, yeah, that's true. the same thing. Yeah. Well, see, I can see, so they have a major character in the Dark Tower

books, Brian, called Blaine the Train, which is like a Choo Train that they ride that, like, talks to them. So it's got like an automated voice that says, you know, if you, if you get out here, you'll be in the wastelands. Do not get out at this point. I would think that Mark Hamill would be, like, perfect, like, to voice the train. So I'm already got the casting going on in my mind for sure. does do good voices. Mm-hmm. And I could see, and the train's insane. It's a crazy.

It's a mad, it's literally a mad, living train. So, like, almost shades of the Joker, you know, so yeah, he'd be perfect for that. Hmm. All right. Anyway, we'll start thinking through. All right.

That was our only trailer this week. All right. On to some listener feedback. This week, we shot on the podcast, spotlight on Santa Mira after dark. When the citizens of Santa Mira are called into their homes because of curfew, Jeremy and Stephen gathered to discuss their favorite movies, video games, and TV series.

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You know, you know, Ness will be listening to that one. Yeah, if they're going to be dissecting Friday the 13th, they'll dissect it pretty good. Yeah, there's a lot to cover. Regarding await further instructions. Fans of the Dead said really liked this one. Well, we'll see if we share the same opinion. Marcus Will Turner says despite being busier and more exhausted than ever, I was actually able to squeeze in my seventh appearance on Beed versus the Living Dead. When you get a chance, take a gander as an incredible host, Beed Your Mine, and yours truly dive into the fourth and fifth entries of Return of the Living Dead franchise.

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Yeah, look, did you watch the wrong one? Yeah, probably. My bad. All right. Well, I said 2020, I was like, oh, that's the right one. 20-20. All right, well, either way, we'll get to that. But we'll start with...

Well, you can't review that one, man. I was wondering. It's like, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with Christmas. I see no decorations, nothing. When's the Christmas going to come in? All right, well, we'll start with await further instructions. Damn, because that was

really good, I enjoyed it. Can we not do this? I want to meet them. Come on. Big, it's so good to see you. Full House this year. Well, maybe this year we can have a proper family Christmas like we used to you. This country used to be great. Until all them Johnny Act, and Bobby Bongo Bongo started coming.

Mr. Milgram, that's not fair. You come in here with your two odds and your... Late a morning, you don't shout at my girlfriend. Here's what we do. We'll get up really early before they do, and we'll just go home. Um, a family's Christmas takes a strange turn when they awake to find themselves trapped inside and begin receiving mysterious instructions through the television. Director is Johnny Kovorkian.

That's his name. Also known for The Disappeared and Murdering People. As you'd say, any relationship, the doctor? Yeah. Doctor Death. Writer is Gavin Williams, also known for chromophobia and an episode of bite-sized Halloween. Never heard of either one. I know.

I think the chromophobia. I think bite-sized Halloween. I think that's, they do it every year in Hulu. I find out of mistake. Okay. That makes it. Okay. They show like short horror films. Brian, you're all into that.

You do some, some short movie reviews on Skaternez network from time to time. Yep. That'll all come back. Amity Bill review. Oh, no. Everything's coming back,

2024. It's just been super busy. How could they possibly mean more of them? Oh, there are. It never, it never stops. The surname of the family Milgram refers to the Milgram test of obedience to authority, a theme dominant throughout the film. It is also revealed that the family resides on Stanford Street,

A reference to the Stanford Prison Experiment. Great movie, by the way, if you haven't seen that. Which studied similar themes of perceived power and authority. Okay. Now it makes sense. See, I could not. I knew there was something going on here that was deeper than what I could get. Oh, for sure.

That explains a lot. Okay. All right. await further instructions. Lance, you want to start us off? I mean, I can First of all, I know you didn't see the other hosts

movie, but these were these like almost the same exact movie, Brian? Because these were not just sci-fi horror. These were sci-fi UK, family at the side of a house, weird shit happens movies. Like these were like almost too close, eerily similar, Brian.

Yeah, but I, well, get to the second one i think that has some other symbolisms and meanings to it okay that one i kind of at least got the symbolism this one again i think this movie might have been just a little bit too deep for me um i'm just not smart enough maybe but it got very lynchian very david lynchian at the end and you guys thought we had some stop motion in the movie a couple of weeks ago boy did they pull out all the stop

motion in this one but let me not get ahead of my let me not get ahead of my So, okay, so when this movie started, I was like, okay, this is kind of an interesting premise, you know, because you've got the old school, you know, British family and the patriarch, as it were, and, you know, you've got people that are all playing their part. And then the family comes together and the one, you know, brings in someone that's obviously of either, you know, Indian or Pakistani descent. She happens to be a doctor and much more intelligent than any of the family members. Definitely Indian. So, of course, they feel threatened from the get-go. And then you've got all the family dynamics that you've got at Christmas. You know, you've got like...

And was that Walter Frey from Game of Thrones? That's who that was. I knew... Game of Thrones. the Harry Potter movies Yes He just plays an asshole And everything that he does

I guess he does In the Edgar Wright movies He does from time to time You're right man like whirls in and all that Like the grumpy old Oh the guy that he only drank From the little silly straw thing That he didn't want no one stealing his DNA

Oh my God actually he was pretty smart to do that as it turns out out but yeah I don't know so it had it had everything in place and I do have to admit that I was intrigued I thought it was at least interesting seeing what was going on as it you know proceeded to get like weirder and weirder and like you know further out and further out I'm not sure why

I don't know I somebody's going to have to explain some things in this movie to me definitely. I think, I know what Phillips theories are going to be on it. I don't know if I'm convinced that's what it was, but I'm leaning toward that. But yeah, I mean, that being said, I can see now that you talked about the Stanford experiments and all that, you know, I can see where the ideas came for this, and I thought it was a decent idea. I just, to me, everything just kind of fell on my theories are yet. It's, it's a weird movie. I'd kind of like to pass it, pass it. I'd kind of like to pass it pass along to somebody and here's some more theories before I go too deep into how I feel about this movie.

Okay, this one will be fun to talk about. Brian, what do you think? I think I actually ended up liking this more than Lance did. It kind of sounds like I'll start with the family. I thought they all did a great job acting because I hated almost every single one of them. No shit. Right. the guy and his girlfriend, they were pretty cool. Yeah, well, the guy and the girlfriend exclude them.

Yeah. The family that lived in the home, everyone from, well, the mother seemed like she was in one of those relationships where she was... Yeah. But at some point, you got to be like, listen, it's your sister. It's kind of okay to punch her in the face. Yeah. But I thought they did a great job of portraying this kind of shitty. family and you

I thought I thought it was a good portray of this because I immediately got the relationship between the son and the father. Okay sure sure and then you get the relationship between the father and the grandfather he just kind of went generation to generation of how

the treatment was what was the what was the grandfather calling the founder squishy or something like that every he called him a squelcher which I'm not entirely sure what that means as far as British terminology because typically a squelter would be like somebody I mean the way that I think of it would be like somebody that doesn't pay you back or something like a mooture yeah well isn't that a welcher I guess so that's right that's true too I don't know Matt Kate we need you help

because I mean it was good enough I mean it not good enough it was bad enough for him to kind of basically celebrate his father's death, the grandfather died. He was high-fiving everybody when the old... Because I thought he was upset that his father died, but then he was like, he called me squelcher. Yeah. I'll show you, squelcher. I kind of felt like this had extraterrestrial vibes to it, aliens coming down. using our TV and internet

and that kind of stuff to patrol us because you know you could say that we're slave to technology and stuff like that yeah I can see that in there or AI AI there you go ah okay why were the needles used

that they sit down the shoot and said everybody I think that was an experiment just to see how far they would go. Yeah, totally, I think just like... Ah, okay. That sounds familiar? Sending random... Sending random things like

everybody needs to take bleach and wash themselves off. Oh, by the way, one of the persons in the house is infected. We're not going to tell you one. You figure it out. Yeah, all right. I think sit back and watch what happens.

I think I just figured this movie out, guys. I think, I think that everything here is being masterminded by Russ McCamey. I think this family has all ended up in McCamey manner and they forgot to sign the 78 page release.

Oh, the hunt guy? Yeah. No, I'm not doing it. I fight every single one of them. This actually, I think, sounds like a really cool experiment, although highly in the world. Are you going to try it?

Well, God, no. But, like, I'm sure. it's not the worst thing that our government has done for sure. I mean, they straight up gave people LSD without telling them. Yeah, that is true. I actually felt that way that this was an experiment until you get

until they get out the house, or you get that shot outside the house. Yeah. Then that's when I was like, this is... With the alien thing going on. The tendrils, the black tendrils but I actually thought this was like a government experiment on this house. Yeah.

Right. Me too. And I think that unfortunately, although I mean, I guess it makes a good movie, I think people act kind of unnaturally in this movie. I don't think that that's the way that normal people would behave. In that situation? Yeah.

Kind of far-fetched, right? It is a good tell of hey, let's introduce some chaos and watch everybody fucking fight over each other. And then they're not so worried about the people at the top, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

Now, this movie was 2018, right? So it came out before COVID? Oh, no, this was like, this was way before that. I think this was like 2008 or something. 2018. Was it 2018? Yeah. Well, had it come out right after.

COVID, I might think they were kind of making a play on, you know, let's see if we get these people who wear these masks, you know? Yeah. Like the same type of thing, but I don't know. Maybe that's a stretch. You don't need masks. You need four of them. But I thought, uh, I thought some of the effects look kind of cool.

I actually, I didn't mind some of the stop motion stuff. It kind of added a little bit of creepiness, especially. I thought I was watching Eraserhead for a minute, man. Yeah. What a little bonkers at the end. Yeah. But that's okay. I kind of dug it for that.

It was just a weird and strange movie that kind of makes you think, you know. Right. Like I said, I'm sure we all kind of came up with different scenarios and what was going on. And I kind of like those kind of movies. So not a bad watch. Well, and that's kind of where I am with it. I think it was fun and thought-inducing, even though the effects maybe were not awesome.

But I even like kind of what they had to say at the end, where at the end of the day, it was more than media controlling you and telling you what to do. I did it because the TV told me to. And I kind of like that aspect. I think it had a lot to say. It was very thinly veiled, but that's okay. Right.

Even though it got kind of bonkers at the end, I think they needed that. They had to go out with a bang. Otherwise, it would have just been some artsy independent movie that nobody would ever watch. Yeah, if it didn't get crazy, it would have just been a group of people yelling at each other for an hour and a half. Right. Yeah. and especially with how unnatural because like let's say they'll lock you and your family

in a house and try to get them to do is your dad going to fucking torture you he did it in this one i mean maybe i don't know i mean it's maybe it's not such a stretch well i that's why i brought up he trusted everything that's why i brought up uh how the family were earlier because i think it was kind of foreshadowing how they were going to be later you take these shitty ass people and throw them in a chaotic situation

and everybody's going to start fending for themselves yeah I mean I guess but their family there's not like they're fucking strangers yeah well he had no problem kicking the shit out of his dad's ass so I don't I know their family but it kind of seemed

with relationship well yeah his dad kind of had it coming though I wish he just slapped me around his sister a little bit. The squel says she's pregnant. I mean, she was bitchy, but she wasn't the worst. I would say the worst was the grandfather and the father.

Oh, yeah. And it was probably more the sister's boyfriend, which honestly kind of wasn't even his fault. He was just doing whatever she told him to do. Oh, so like, dude. If me and my sister got into it and her fucking boyfriend got up in my face, that'd be the end of that shit.

it right there. He would have gone over the stairwell, not her, huh? His boyfriend, her boyfriend with the missing fingers. Yeah. Yes. I'm not scared of you. Scott. Like, even if he was bigger than me, I'm like, dude, don't you mind your own

fucking business. They tried to portray him like he was a tough guy. He had to like the little cutoff shirt or whatever. Oh, yeah. The little wife feeder shirt. He reminded me of that dude from True Blood, like the brother. I respect him a little bit.

I did like his kind of turnaround in the movie. He just kind of started seeing how things were and this is not right. We need to work together. And the dad was just completely whatever the television does. A dumb jock trying to survive, man. Like, he was just following orders the whole time, which is what most everybody was doing except the dude and his girlfriend. But yeah. I enjoyed it, man.

I thought it was. It was a thought-provoking movie, which is always fun. Instead of just... Dumb explosions on a green screen. Fair enough. What was with the black smoke, guys? Was that like...

Like part of the tendrils? Yeah, but I mean, what... Do you think there was more to it than that? Like, it was, you know, like the tendrils changed into the gas and stuff like that. I mean, if it's... If it's extraterrestrial alien shit, then, you know...

Which is... I think what it was. Seemed to be. Seemed to be. Because, I mean... Some extraterrestrial parasite. They just happened to take over electronics. Maybe it was an extraterrestrial AI parasite.

Although, why would they need humans? If it's something that's here that's mastered interstellar space travel, then I'm sure their weapons and technology will be highly advanced. So, I mean, it could have... The tendrils could have changed into gas. ass and change back into tendrils, you know, we don't know what their technology. Yeah, because the tendils like, say this to the aliens that are here already, please don't hurt us. Well, and I mean, there's definitely some, like, the dad pulls out a fucking hatchet at one point. Right.

I'm like, where the fuck did that come from? And how come you haven't been trying to get out the whole time? Oh, the son brought the hatchet. Remember, he tried to hack his way through the blockade at the door? Oh, did he? Okay. And then for some reason, the mom was, she was kind of wacky because he's sitting there, right, whacking at it with a hatchet.

She's just like, stop, you'll wake the neighbors. Yeah. Well, that she was, she was the, let's calm everybody down so nobody gets upset, mom, you know? Yeah, and then she started singing Christmas Carol. That's when I figured she was broken then. And then, like, there was a lot of time that passed, I think, that they didn't convey very well. Okay. Because they were like, oh, yeah, her legs infected.

I'm like, she just, like, jumped fell down. Yeah, I guess. Sure. How is it? It's not possibly infected already. Well, like you said, Phil, he bought into everything the TV said. Because he made that comment, it's the government. When is the government ever treated us wrong?

We're from the government and we're here to help. The TV told him to throw away all your food. It's infected. Yeah. I was like, how does the TV know? Right. Piss in all your water before you drink it. It'll add flavor.

Trust us. Lemonade. Squel, chow. Is that lemonade you drinking, Phil? That's some whiskey, some Devil's River. Hey, hey, hey, put that bottle up there. Maybe we could get it as a sponsor. Maybe.

This is the first time I've had it. It's pretty good. I'm normally a Maker's guy, but I like it. Makers is some good stuff. Yeah. All right, scores. Lance, what do you think? That's three out of ten.

Oh, man. Jesus. Yeah, dude. Wouldn't that have been? baby came out, I was like, okay, fuck this David Lynch bullshit. No, no. And does they show it some stuff on TV? I'm like, that motherfucker baby can't read?

Honestly, it was okay when, all right, so when the tendrils grabbed the father and like made him move around and, you know, move the hatchet, I was kind of like, ah, this is okay, at least it's kind of creepy. But, yeah, when they start going into all the stop motion crap and then the baby comes out, like you said, reads the TV and, you know, worships whatever, they're supposed to. to be worshipping. I'm like, just just not my cup of tea. You know, I mean, sorry.

Didn't love it. Didn't love it, guys. All right. Brian, what did you think? I thought that the acting was pretty good for what they were trying to portray, and the effects didn't really bother me because I knew this had a lower budget than most movies. Yeah. And there was enough here for us, like I said, to have

different opinions on what we thought the movie was about, so I'm going to give it a 6.7 five not bad not bad yeah i think that works i think i'm gonna bump it up to a seven i think it was uh okay i think it was a it was a i was a like i said a thought-provoking movie um was it the most well-done thing i've ever seen no but it was pretty low budget and uh i like that it got all bonkers at the end it was i mean it was ridiculous and crazy it did get bonkers it at least went with with the rest of the flow of the movie. Okay.

So it's got some good and some bad, but overall, I enjoyed it. And I'd never even heard of it. So. Yep. Nor had I. I'm happy I watched this one. I think I might have seen a poster for it once or something. Yeah, like the name sounded familiar, but I had definitely never watched it before. I think I would have remembered this one, which is a sign of a good movie. There's a lot of movies where I'm halfway through it and I'm like, oh, wait a man.

I'm not watching this or not. All right. So, Brian and I recommend it. Lance, not so much. Now we'll move on to hosts with an S. That's the thing that fucked me.

Okay. From 2020. They destroy everything he loves. We invite their neighbors over for Christmas dinner with disastrous consequences. writers and directors are Adam Leder and Richard Oakes, also known for Feed Me, Seymour. Not really.

The, I don't know what that says. The writer and directors other films Feed Me is a cannibal horror comedy. Okay. It says Sroeder. Oh, my boy. I was like, that's not a word. Um, all right. Host.

All right, well, you know what? I'll start this one off because I watched the wrong fucking movie. And I watched, there you go. Host. And everybody, that was my fault when I sent the schedule out. I didn't put an ass on hosts. Shame on you, Brian. Oh, no.

Well, I just looked at the last episode's notes and it said host 2020. And I was like, well, it's got to be it. Well, you were close. But that was the, that was the Zoom. movie, right? Yes. And I remember, Brian, you telling me it was actually pretty good and I had never watched it. Oh, really?

Yeah. And so this was a first time watch for hosts for me. Cool. And it was completely done on Zoom. Scary movie. They do a seance. There's ghosts. Everybody dies. But really well done, man.

I got goosebumps like multiple times. And I was surprisingly impressed with it. that's all I'll say on it since it was not the movie that we actually watched. Yeah, just real quick, they just did a great job. I think a lot of people had to pull their part on actually filming and doing their own makeup effects at certain points. I mean, there were times when they, of course, brought somebody in, but everybody was quarantined. So some of them had to do their own makeup at some point.

So I thought for what they had to work with, it was a great movie. yeah i and and the whole zoom call thing where like it's a little bit grainy in the background and all that stuff i i i think totally works for it yeah i i thought it was a lot of fun man i'm i'm glad i watched that one that one that one definitely caught my attention i was like wow this is a really good movie he was right yeah and a lot of smart usage of things like uh the filters yes okay absolutely of course you can't see a ghost standing there but your camera can't catches and puts a filter on the coast face. Yeah.

Right. With nothing there. Yeah. Yeah. So what's your rating, yeah, creepy? What's your rating,

Philip? My rating on that one? I think I'm going to give it an eight, dude. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a lot of fun. And I didn't really hate anything about it. It's a good score.

Yeah. So that's for hosts from 2020. All right. But the movie that was. were actually reviewing as hosts, which I didn't watch. Lance, what did you think about that one? I did watch hosts, and like I said, it had a lot in common with the, you know, with the first movie. Now, okay, so this one starts out a little bit differently because you've got, well, in the very

beginning, it starts out with the old man in a Santa Claus suit out in the field hunting for some reason, talking to the guy that's, I guess, a train conductor or whatever. But yeah, the first sequence that really means anything, you've got a guy that's, it's kind of a heartwarming little scene, right? Yeah, he's got his girlfriend, and, you know, they don't have, you can tell they don't have a lot of money to buy presents and stuff like that, but they still take care of each other. Got coming home for Christmas. Coming home for Christmas, he's got his hat on, and she's like, oh, why'd you wear your hat? I'm trying the British accent. We'll see what Matt and Kate think of it. but he's like, well, blimey.

You want to see me with blonde air, you did. This is actually not bad, considered we've heard some of your other access. No, it was kind of, it was kind of hard. Is that like verbatim what he said? Because that would be fantastic. He might have said, blimey. Okay.

Blimey. When you, when you, when you see the two lights come across in the garden. Did you kind of know what they were, knowing British history and... Was it Rudolph? No, but I do remember in the movie she said she felt like somebody, it was like two torches, somebody walking with two torches in the background.

Okay. All right, I was thinking of like the fairy lights. You know, they always talk about, you know, the Ireland and UK, they have the folk history. of fairies and stuff like that. Yeah. And, you know, like, they're carrying torches around and whatnot. Irish thing.

Yeah, true enough, man. It was, um, I, yeah, so this one, this one to me was just, you know, again, kind of similar. I thought this one was a little bit more intriguing. It was definitely, you know, it was a bit more gory. Because like in the first movie, you know, you had the pregnant lady falling off the stairs, which, like, was an ouch moment. But in this one, you've got someone taking a hammering. just literally beating somebody to death and like oh man and when that when that

think of it when that scene happens they kind of pull you in because it's she sure christmas dinner to basically tell everybody you know i have cancer and they pull you one way but then she reveals the doctors now say i'm in remission so you they're bringing back up yeah like everybody breathes a sigh of relief right and then one of the guests just pulls out his hammer and I mean Phil just obliterates her head oh man hits her she drops forward head on the dinner table and she just continues to smash her head oh wow until there's just bush yep that sounds awesome and terrible I thought it was a great way to kind of because kind of bring you down and bring you back up and then just out of nowhere just coming with

something just completely crazy. I thought that did a good moment right there. You in her mission now, bitch? It was a good sequence. Well, there wasn't her that she beeped. Oh, we'll get to her, too. So after that, after that sequence, right now, all of a sudden, you know you're in some heavy bullshit.

What did you think about where from there, man? I do see the similarities to the original one, but this one I got more of a religious by. Okay. Okay, yeah, I can see that. Like, instead of aliens, it was demons. Yeah, I thought it was like the fairy folk, right? Because they run off their land by the humans and they're taking it back.

Yeah, because they use the TV aspect in this one, just like the original. I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, wait further. Oh, wait further. Yeah, but it would be shots of the camera rising from beneath the earth through a tunnel. So that kind of made me. think of hell and then there was the people possessed, I'm just going to call them possessed. Right.

Would have moments where if there was a cross or a religious painting on the wall, they would kind of glance at it and just kind of look at it with disgust. I guess England and Scotland definitely had some fairy folklore too. So that makes sense. Yeah, this one, I didn't think this movie was as over the top as the other one like is in your face. It kind of like is a little bit more sublime to me. Like we're using.

But they both have, you can have a lot of theories about what was ultimately going on in both movies. But for my, for my movie going dollar, you know, this one, this one gave me a little bit more of what I kind of like, which is more subtlety. And, you know, the acting was, you know, kind of on par, right? Because you've got people that are complete assholes, you know, then you got, you know, family members that have feuds going back. and stuff like that. They felt more like a family. A little bit more natural, you think? Because they're, their brother and sister, they're older.

There's three kids, two of them grown. And it's stupid, but I thought it was a great representation of a family moment. Is they're throwing food at the dinner table at each other? He throws a pee on her, and the dad is like, stop peeing on your sister. It's a stupid moment, but it's a family moment, though. It would definitely be something that I would say. Yeah, I could see that. I could see that for sure.

Yeah, but I don't know, man. I thought as it did go further and further into the movie, though, again, to me, if they had maybe not gone as over the top on the light coming out of the mouths and the lit eyes, Brian? I actually thought that was a good effect. Did you like that effect? Especially, from what I understand, this had a super low. budget to it. Okay. So I thought the effects of when they got possessed, the light coming out of the mouth, and then not really the eyes lighting up, but just kind of having like a little flicker

in the eyes. Sure. Like if you shot, like a cat's eyes, right? Yeah. If you shine a flashlight on it, it, you know, you see a reflection, Philip. So was it something like possessing these people? Yeah. It was definitely possessing them. Was it fairies? No, it never really. It never really. It never really tells you it just kind of like await further instruction it just kind of leaves you to your own. A little bit open-ended. Yeah. Now there was one character like the

first one who got possessed that did the hammer murder. She did have a speech to the little boy where it was basically like so there's this I want to tell you a story and it's a story of a man that comes and takes what he wants and takes the land

away from others and stuff like that. So that's why I got out of it that. it was like, you know, the humans kind of taken over the world from the fairy folk who were here before us. But, you know, I don't know. There's different ways to read it. And there's lots of, like, biblical passages that are said in it. There's a lot of, you know, praying.

Were they Church of England? They weren't Catholic, I didn't think. Right, Brian, I think they were, like, Protestant Church of England people. Your guess is good as mine. Okay. I mean, I really used to be Catholic, and then they switched to Protestant. of sense so that the king could get a divorce, which is why we have a freedom of religion here. All about being able to get a divorce, huh?

Yeah, that's exactly why. Yeah. You're like, fuck this bitch. So you like the effects then, Brian? Yeah, I thought the, like I said, we talked about the light effects. When there wasn't a lot of gore, but when there was gore, it was done great. there's another scene first of all I have to say

Samantha Loxley is the actress that played the main girl that got possessed I thought she did a great job because when she was possessed she just was real just sinister and smiling smiling and just evil

enjoying it too much and then you get a scene later when the whatever's possessing her leaves her body and just completely snaps back into her true self and just has no

what's going on and then I won't spoil that part for you Phil but but like there's another kill scene which was pretty brutal it was I mean it was a stabby stabby scene but I mean it was just like multiple stabs like

super light just knife just yeah they didn't want to stop well and there's ways to do that in low budget stuff where maybe the gore is off screen. Mm-hmm.

You know, but you can still do it effectively. Gore was right there, though, front and center. Yeah, it was front and center, and it was done well. It was all practical. Yeah, that's good. That was a good thing. There was a couple side things that I just kind of was like, eh, I don't know if I necessarily cared.

The whole reveal of the one of the two people, the two people that came to this family's dinner for, or came to his family's house for Christmas dinner were the neighbors. They were the two possessed. The reveal that the guy was the father's illegitimate son that he always knew. Yeah, that came out of left field, didn't it?

Yeah, I was like, okay, does this have anything to do with the story? Is it going to turn up later? No, it didn't. Not really. So he cares. It's like you give us the cancer thing, which eventually paid off

into a great scene. Sure, sure. And then you get the, I think the character's name is Scott, and he was like, Scott, Scott's my son. Scott Pilgrim. Yeah, and I'm just kind of like, who the fuck cares?

What does this have to do with anything? So there was a couple of moments like that, but I think overall, I think this having similar tones as await further instructions, I thought this was done a whole lot better and more effective. Yeah, I could see that.

Okay, the only thing that kind of lost me a little bit was like there toward the end, right? When it did get, see, I like this one I liked when it stayed inside the house. Because when they got outside and you got all these other weird characters like the dude with a big long beard, the bald head of guy with a long beard, and you got the villagers, all their eyes are glowing. I guess they're just trying to show you what, that the whole village got taken over by this possession, basically? Bill basically was like when you get that shot at the end of await further instructions, when you know it's not just this house, it's the town or a bigger scale. Right, right.

There's a scene where she looks through the window and there's just a group of people and all their eyes got that flicker to it. Yeah, got the can eyes going. Yeah, it was creepy. And then the final scene, I'm assuming this they're going. I don't know. I just kind of took it as maybe they're,

this was, they came from heaven and maybe they're transitioning to heaven. Or they came from hell transitioning to heaven. Yeah, that was kind of. The light globes were kind of going into the air. Yeah, that was a little cheesy. A little hard to tell exactly, but that meant. But I guess I could see that, you know. Yeah, it's just, definitely.

definitely a movie that kind of makes you think and come up with different ideas and scenarios on what was going on. Yeah, Philip, you'll want to check it out, man. All right. It's on Tooby. It's on Tooby and several other, like, yeah, do not watch it on freebie. Freebies. They play ads like every 10 minutes. I didn't have too many ads on Tooby.

I watched the other one on Tooby, man. Toobie's awesome. Two-Bs not at all, man. They give you one or two ads at top sometimes. Yeah, do not mess with freebie or what was the other one that me and Ness did at 30 days? There's a Plex TV, yeah. Plex is horrible with the ads. Rife with ads, huh?

All right, Lance, what do you think of the score on that one is? I'll give this one a six, man. It's not like a masterpiece or anything like that, but it's definitely, more good than bad. That one scene was just the way Brian described it. You nailed it, Brian. That was great, man.

They were bringing you down because you just know she's going to say, I've got like two weeks to live or whatever and wanted to get everybody here together. And then she says, I'm proud to say I'm in remission. And then everybody's like, oh, and then all of a sudden she hits her. I don't want to, I don't know, Philip, you need to watch the movie.

I don't want to over describe it. But it's like, it starts off with like, nobody can believe what's really happening, and then she just goes nuts with a hammer. Well, yeah, I imagine if somebody was smashing somebody's head with a hammer in front of me, I'd be like, what is happening right now? Yeah, especially after a speech about bombs cancer being in remission, right? So that was well done. I'll give it six.

I'm sure Brian's going much higher. Yeah, I'm going to go a little bit higher. I'm going to go seven. Okay. And just to further explain how sinister these two. were like they take the mother after completely obliterating her head.

You don't know where they take the body and then they tell each family member to go to their rooms. They locked them in the room. They make the father get in bed and then you look over and you see something under the bed. They put him in bed with his headless wife.

Oh. You kind of see her body outlined under the blanket, but then you kind of see like by the pillows just kind of of like a wet spot. Oh. That's nice. It's pretty.

Before you know, the story just tells you need to get some rest. Sure, I'll just take a nap. And plus the actress just said her name. Let me make sure I got it right. Samantha Loxley is the main possessed one. I thought she did a great job. Yeah, well done. Well, we recommend hosts.

then. And I recommend host. Okay. All right. And for all you guys, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of the Hore Returns. Hopefully,

Audacity will cooperate and you guys won't get those pregnant 30-second silence pauses you got in the last couple episodes. Apologies for that. Yeah, we promise you we are saying stuff. Yes. And we'll make it work one way or the

other, even if we have to to get a new software, but you know, or almost 400 episodes, we almost got this thing figured out. Almost, not quite. We're still doing commentaries and totally losing the recordings, but you know, all in a day's work.

It's a hobby. It's not going to get a ton of money for it. Unless you've got become patrons. Feel free to, speaking of which Lars said he's going to pick his coosies up tomorrow. Awesome. Nice. Coosies all the way to Denmark, folks.

So we're serious about this. And we have plenty left. I have a whole garage full here. So we'll have to come up with a contest, Brian. Think about it, guys. Something we can do that's interactive. It gets people involved. And we'll send some coosies out there.

You can find us at thehorrorreturns.com. Email us at thehorreturns at gmail.com. Maybe we'll do an email contest that we can read on the air. But we'll figure it out. Steve Carlton has a lot of artwork that I need to get uploaded to T-Public I'm going to try to get that done this week and next week, guys, you all guessed it,

more Christmas. We're going to cover S-I-N-T from S-I-M-T, not S-C-E-N-T, sent from 2010. And last year is the Mean One featuring Friend of the show, Art the Clown himself, David Howard Thornton, So, Brian, till the horror returns again, good night.