The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #396: Scrooged (1988) Commentary

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

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Welcome back to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance. With me as always are my co-host, Philip and Brian, and tonight, it is a commentary. So what does that mean? Brian, who's in the house tonight? Sean.

What's up? Thank you, thank you. I'm always happy to be here. Commentary Sean is here. What's up, man? What's going on? You're not in Florida anymore. I'm in Florida and you left.

I know, man. I'm so pissed. I'm still in East Tennessee, which I hate. But I got a really good job. It can't be that bad, man. Beautiful state. It's cold. It's rainy.

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not like Texas of Florida. It's cool. Yeah, I'm right next to like pigeon fords. Gallenberg, so I'm right next to the smokies, but, you know, I just, I lived in Florida for so long that I'm used to the warmth at this point. I'm kind of, you know, I just don't like gold, but hey, I got a great job. I get it. Well,

you ought to talk to Brian, talk to Brian about the cold, man, being in Alaska. I'm sure he's got you beat. No, I'm trying to be positive, so don't talk to me about cold. You get a white Christmas. Yeah, Christmas. And Sean, maybe you'll run into Dolly Parton out there, man. Hey, you never know. She's all over. He's Tennessee. It's all over.

Or did she die 20 years ago and she's really a robot? I'm going with that. Did you see her at the Cowboys halftime show? She's wearing like a Cowboys cheerleader outfit. Yeah. Isn't she like 103? She just put out a new album because there's a, there's a billboard I saw for Cracker Barrel that they're going to be having

her album. And I was like, Hmm. Right. I think Dolly's put out an album in years. Yeah. Well, I think the story is because she got inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, like at first she was like, oh, you know, I don't really deserve it.

I'm not really rock and roll. Give it to somebody that's rock and roll. Give it to somebody that deserves it. They're like, no, you know, you want it. We're giving it to you. You know, people voted on it. she said, all right, Goddammit, if you're going to call me a rock star, I'm going to make a rock album. So apparently it's a dolly's first rock album.

What? That's awesome. Yeah, and I'll listen to that. Now I'm going to have to listen to it. Straight up. Yeah, is that, have you heard it yet, Sean? No, I have not. All right.

So that's not your cool of the week, man. So it is. Yeah, all right. So my cool of the week would be the Jack Reacher series on Amazon Prime. I've made it through season one, and I've made through the first four episodes of season two that are available, because I think they're doing it weekly for season two right now. It's badass. Yeah. The show's good.

It's amazing. Like, the first season was off the charts, the fighting and all that. I like the choreography. I initially didn't watch the series until recent, just because I didn't like the guy playing Jack Reacher, but he won me over. he genuinely is really good yeah I've always actually been a fan of that guy he's talk about bulked up

though he is super swole oh he's massive and he said after he took testosterone treatment that he like got even bigger for season two yeah obviously

yeah he's roared in the fuck out yeah he's like oh I'm doing small doses I was like are you you're like massive yeah Like, there's a scene where he, like, takes his shirt off.

And it's like, Jesus fucking Christ, man, what are you doing? Hey, that might be CGI, guys. It almost looks like it. He's a big dude. And he did say he, functioned. He ate, like, really healthy. He constantly went to the gym and was doing the micro doses of testosterone. Again, that's the my chestacell.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. Brian. Brian does a lot of microdosing, don't you, Brian? Sure. Not to that. Not of that, no. Yeah, not the angry medicine.

So, uh, reacher it is, huh? I've heard a lot of good shit about it, man. Yeah, you should check it out. It is really good. Are you, uh, are you caught up, Brian? Uh, I haven't started season two yet. I've been dealing with a season. sick kid, so we've been

watching more family I guess appropriate stuff. Not Christmas movies because all that's bullshit. Right. Hey, Gremlins is a Christmas movie. That works. It is. So is die hard.

Yeah. Those are a lot of Christmas movies. Those are top tier. I'm not talking about what I've seen Lance posting over the last few weeks. We've seen a couple of good ones. Fred. Fred Clause was pretty good. We watched that last night. I like Frank Clause.

That was pretty funny. But yeah, getting to see those are pretty few and far between. Brian is right. It's like mostly these Hallmark, which are basically, how did I describe it, Brian, hardcore porn film without any hardcore porn? Yeah, it's like they took the script, took all the sex out. And the acting. All right, I'm going to throw out my cool of the week. You guys seen Oppenheimer yet?

Yes. Hell yes. Not what I was expecting. I thought it was just going to be kind of a dry docudrama, but it gets all into the science of it. It's got all these major, they've got cameos by all these major scientists and physicists over the last 20, 30 years. They've got, you know, they even got a guy that shows up playing Albert Einstein.

And it tells the whole story, but it does it in kind of like a Tarantino-esque way, where it goes back and forth in time. Like you'll see a scene of something that kind of inspires him to start thinking about studying the things that he's going to study. And then next thing, you know, he's running the Manhattan Project, and then he's back in time again. And you got to love, who is it, Florence Pee, full nudity. Nothing wrong with that. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, she's gorgeous. That was really nice.

And I had no idea about the whole smear campaign against him, you know? Yeah, the Department of. Yeah, I learned a whole thing. Just reversed course, like, I think a year or two ago and came out publicly and said, we're basically, we're sorry for taking away his security clearance. And they finally like acknowledge that they fucked up. But they did it quietly, but it was still public. For the U.S. government, you know, that's amazing.

I imagine there's many more of those in years to come. You think? Yeah. We're just hitting like the time that like the corruption started, those people are dying off. So we can start apologizing for that. So it'll just be a cascading effect. All right. Well, check out Oppenheimer. Don't don't check it.

all the shitty Christmas movies that Brian was alluding to. I'll go next. Since we were dealing with a sick kid, trying to keep it family friendly, we were on Disney Plus and a couple new shows

came out over the past, I guess, weekend week or so. And the first one we checked out was the new Percy Jackson and the Olympians. Oh, yes. I saw you. I saw you watch that. watching that Brian what'd you think man I enjoyed it because I I just remember learning about all the Greek mythology stuff when I was a kid and

Yeah, my daughter recently not really I think last year learned about it and they they watched the original movies and plus I remember taking my two oldest Seeing the original movies when they were kids So it's kind of cool now watching the series and they're they're going a little bit more in-depth I I never read the books, but it just seems like the first episode was about 40 minutes. Well, they just had the one movie, right? They had two, but I don't remember anything from the second movie. I don't think I remember the second one coming out. Either of them.

I remember watching the first one. It wasn't a bad. Like, it kind of got shit on, but it was fun. Yeah, and they actually have kids playing the characters instead of Alexander Dadario, which I think was in her mid-20s trying to play a teenager. Yeah. That's okay. I'll give her a pass.

Isn't it the kid from Shazam that he played the cripple kid? I thought it was, but then I looked it up and it wasn't him. Really? Yeah. Looks just like him. When he said the guy from Shazam, I thought you meant the dude that played Chuck. I'm like, well, that's not a teenager. Sorry.

It's pretty good so far. We're enjoying it. So I think two episodes out right now, and I think they're doing the weekly thing with their episodes. And then after that, we checked out season two Marbles What If? Oh, yeah, they're releasing those one right after the other, right? Yeah, every day. Wow. Which is, it's been pretty cool.

I think so far, I've only seen. seen two or three episodes and the standout one was would have Nebula joined the Nova Corps and it's really very reminiscent of Blade Runner their way they did everything. Okay. So pretty cool so far. Sounds like this season is going to be

maybe a little sci-fi heavy then? Yeah, the second episode was What of Star Lord? You remember the Guardians 2 when you find out who, why Yandu kidnapped him and he was to bring it to his father. It's basically what if he went straight to his father.

Oh, gotcha. And then came back to Earth with his powers. And then you get like the 80s version of what the Avengers would have been. Okay. Huh. That's kind of interesting.

I've heard good things. I haven't ever actually got caught up in the show. I think I watched the first episode and it was like the British Captain America lady. He was Pegging on. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well, you should have seen the Marvel zombie one. That was my... Yeah, that was pretty good.

I'll have to check it out. That's all I got this week. That's a lot. All right. Well, I checked out Rebel Moon on Netflix. How was that? I heard very mixed things. Neither you're on one side of the fence or the other.

It's not bad. It's not bad. No, there's some... It's not bad. I mean, it's basically Star Wars. Well, it was a rejected script that he pitched to Star Wars. Yeah, and when I heard that, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Because they had a lot of, especially towards the end, there was a lot of, like, Star Wars-ish things.

Like the lightsaber? No, no lightsavers. Didn't they have something that were, like, lightsavers in there? They definitely had some blasters, but I think all the rest of them were like practical weapons. The bad guy had like a, he was basically a Nazi, and he had like the femur of a dead guy or something, and that was his weapon. Did he tell him to use, did he tell him to use the fence? Use the fence. Use the fence. Oh, no, there were, there was a chick who was like,

a samurai and she had like two swords and then they were sort of like lightsavers. She was pretty badass. It was definitely a lot of CGI stuff going on. And so at this point, that kind of takes it out of it for me. You know what I mean? But they did it pretty well and it was interesting and creative. And I liked that. I had a lot of fun with it. There's a lot of really shitty sci-fi movies and this was not one of them. so we'll go with that. I enjoyed watching it. Yeah, I heard it visually.

It looked really good. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff that looked really good in it. And, uh, but yeah, man, it was, I, I had a lot of fun with it. I was surprised when I looked it up and saw a bunch of shitty reviews. I was like, wow, really? Yeah. That's, that's, that's, it's no Valerian and the planet of the moon suns. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I think people kind of have a certain idea about Zach Snyder and just kind of shit on his movies. Yeah, he's almost like persona non grata in Hollywood at this point. He gets shit on all the time. But I like it. He makes money.

I like majority of his movies. I mean, there's always good action and they always look good. I mean, some of them might be a little bit on the boring side as far as story, but... Yeah, well, this one was not. I think it was a really good story. And, I mean, it was very Star Wars-ish, like I said. But, uh, I mean, there's a lot of really shitty

sci-fi movies out there, and I really enjoyed this one, you know? God damn, sorry, my dogs are going crazy out there. It's all right, man. All right. So Rebel Moon is recommended. We already know there's going to be a part two, because I've already seen a teaser poster for Part Yeah, and even the first one is a little bit long.

Yeah, the second one comes out in March, I think. And they did tell a complete story and wrap it up. Good, good, okay. There's that. Lance, you got to watch it anyways. Jacks is in it. Oh, I'll watch it for sure. Yeah.

I'll definitely check it out. What's the girl from the mummy? What's her name? Oh, Sophia Bettella. Yeah, she's pretty bad ass. in this movie. I like her. Yeah, there's even a droid

that pops up a couple of times. He's pretty cool. Of course there is. Is there a short little character named Moda? No, but there should be. All right. So this may have been like a Star Wars movie

that was like out of place in the timeline or something and they just decided to make episode eight. Yeah. So, like, you know, there's obviously no memorable characters there. But they build them. I felt like it was a book series.

They got written into a movie. Yeah. So. Cool. We all have Netflix. We're up paying that $25 a month, Brian. Yeah. Thanks, Lance.

As soon as you mentioned that, I had to pay extra. Yeah. Imagine that. For something that's on Netflix and you don't have to go to the movies for, it's a... True. True. It's worth it. monthly fee, I guess, for this one.

I don't know about the rest of their shit. Is this something worth turning into a franchise for Netflix? Because I heard after the second movie, they have plans for the universe they're building. Maybe. I'd to see how the second...

It's not Dune. Okay. They were supposed to do that with Army of the Dead, too, though, and where did that ever go? You know what? This one was better than Army. You know? Really? Yeah, that was one of my favorite movies of that year. Yeah.

All right. I'll check it out then. Yeah. Definitely going to check it out. All right. Well, we're not going to do any news tonight, Brian, so you don't have to scramble for headlines at post-rider strike. Oh, we had headlines, but... Did we?

Yeah. Anything we just got to talk about, man? Well, I didn't know that Lee Wunnell was doing a... Wolfman movie was his next Universal Monsters movie. And Ryan Gosling was going to play the Wolfman, but he dropped out. Oh, no.

And it's going to be, Lance, he was in Possessor, the lead actor, Christopher Abbott, the lead actor in that one. He's a pretty good actor, man. I've seen him a couple other things. So I think he could pull it off. I really do.

So, Ryan Gosling. They lost some name. recognition on that one. They did, yeah. This other guy's not as big a name. And they're... Maybe a better fit, though. I think the release date is October. So, we're getting it this year. Ryan Gassling is the wolf man.

Yeah, I can't see that. Yeah, I know. That does seem like a strange choice. No. Oh, how about if they got Hugh Jackman? How funny would that be? Yes. It would be awesome. Everybody would think of Ben Helsing. Yeah. Oh, man.

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Riviero says when will this film when was this film be released I've been waiting for it imagine Brian's been waiting for it too Amityville 1974 Is there a movie called Amityville 1974

I guess I was going to say I think it's coming out man I think it's coming out If it's the original one it's already been released. Yeah. 174.

It's not a thing that was on my radar, but I'm not super nervous. The only thing that looks, that's coming to mind when I hear that is maybe there was a docu-series. Okay. I can see that. Well, we probably posted something,

and they responded, and there's the comment. There is an Amityville, 1992, called It's About Time, Brian. Have you seen that one? Yeah, review coming soon. Oh, gosh. This should be interesting. I look forward to that.

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it is cool yeah yeah Yeah, season four. Season four, and it's, I think they're up to like the year of 2002 now, Sean, and they're already, they're, they've got Mars well colonized by now. Yeah, they're trying to capture an asteroid to mine it because it's got a shit ton of, you know, valuable resources. Wasn't there a show on Amazon Prime where it was kind of the same premise, but like we lost one of the wars or something? I don't know if that sounds interesting. I think so Something

Something with castle in the title Oh the man in the high castle Yeah Never seen that one I heard good things though I heard good things I like these alternate history ones That's pretty cool

Me too Jesse Bollinger said how is this I've always debated whether to check it out or not Well apparently good Go check it out Yeah it's great It's a good show Regarding birth

slash rebirth Darian Revenant says I dug it birth Yeah it's a trip I saw it this week You checked it out Brian No not yet

I'm gonna try and fit it in Because I'm seeing it's Popping up on a lot of Top 10 lists It's a movie or show It's a movie I don't know if I'd go that far But it's it's definitely a mind fuck

Of a movie man It's There's a lot of Yeah there's a lot of kind of quasi-F Frankenstein storylines going on out there, but this one does it like totally different. This is not, yeah, this isn't

poor, you might be thinking of poor things, though. I don't know, there's a lot of Frankenstein. Poor things. It's horrible. I do not. Is it that bad? I don't. You went?

No, I have no desire after after the idea of like taking a child's brain and reanimating them into an adult and then that adult having sex, they're really bothers me. Yeah, that's a weird promoting of like Is that the premise?

Yeah, isn't that the premise of big? That's right. Yeah, but he did it a little bit more than just dancing on the keyboard in the store. That makes me not want to watch Big again. Yeah, I. That never crossed my mind. That never crossed my mind. That never crossed my mind until I took my daughter to see like an anniversary showing in the theater of Big.

And then I'm watching the scene and I'm like, oh, shit, my daughter's here. here. And then the scene's happening and I was like, yeah, she's taking advantage of this child right now. Yeah. That's kind of how poor things is, that that's my understanding. I haven't watched it, but you know, if you've watched it, correct me, and if I'm wrong, but I, well, plus the art style. Anyway, birth, rebirth is pretty good, though. It's a, it's a mind fuck for sure. Sure. It's very original. I'll put it to you that way. A lot of the twist and turns I didn't see coming. Is it? What's that? It's available.

Okay. It's streaming somewhere. I think so. I don't remember where. Yeah. Frankenstein's kind of the it thing now. It was Dracula. Now it's Frankenstein because that movie comes out in a couple more. Was it Lisa Frankenstein? Another take on Frankenstein. That's right. That's right. the Lisa, Lisa Frank thing

with the bright colors and everything, right? It's going to be the new twilight. Yeah. Oh, boy. A Frankenstein love story. Oh, gosh. And regarding the mean one, Kate Pollock says I didn't realize

this was actually a real thing. It's a thing and... Probably shouldn't have been, but... It's there. It happened. I like the Winnie the Pooh one. Oh, geez. Can't wait for the sequel.

I can't. They got more money to play around with. Well, and I think that like one of the early versions of Mickey Mouse is now public domain, so I've got to be getting something pretty good there at some point. Steamboat Willie, huh?

Yeah. The porn parody. They probably already did that. Those guys don't care about copyrights. And you just got to put parody in the title. True, true. And that's it for listener feedback. Of course,

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Help us out. Are you a communist or not? We got to get to universal Halloween nights. That's going to take a lot of money, isn't it, Sean? Yes, it is. Oh, I can totally catch an Legion bird down to Orlando, so that's easy. All right. Right. And, uh, on to our featured attraction. This week we're going to do a commentary on 1988's Scroooged.

I got into broadcasting because I like to give. Hey, that's my cab. Sometimes I find myself hurting from giving too much. Fire these people. It's Christmas. Bahamuk. I'm going to be visited by three ghosts. Expect the first one tomorrow at noon.

God, tomorrow's bad for me, Lou. I'm the ghosts. What is it with 1988 commentaries? That was Killer Clowns, too, right? Wasn't that 88? I think so. Around that time. Anyway.

When was Back to the Future? It was 1988, right? 86. Before that. Ah, damn. Maybe back to the future, too? It's like we should definitely do a commentary on that one. 89, 90 for the future to.

1988. One of the Beverly Hills cops was 88, I think, right? Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is there a new one coming out? They got a new one coming out. We're going off on the end.

He's been in the work. Eddie Murphy looks exactly as a fucking same. Well, Eddie sold his soul. I don't know. F. Molfoley. He looks. like no different at all.

He's got to be 60 fucking years old at this point, right? At least. At least. He looked exactly the same. I'm hoping it was, it's going to be good because like Sean said, it's been into works for a minute. That's because he didn't want to, he didn't want to do one that was not going to. It was shitty? Yeah.

Yeah. Like number three, the one at the amusement park, that was nice. Oh, my God. That was terrible. I've heard that Eddie, Eddie Murphy's been doing some standards. up lately and killing it so cool all right hopefully the movie will be good i mean he's he's one of the greats uh all right so scrooge a selfish cynical television executive uh bill murray of course is uh haunted by three spirits bearing lessons from on christmas eve uh director is richard

donner rest in peace not of the donor party they didn't need him um also known for six of the twilight just to clarify six episodes of the twilight zone and nineteen seven nineteen eighty seven or seventy eights where superman so there's some extra numbers in there yeah it's all good uh writers are mitch glazer and michael o'donoghue uh based on a story by charles dickens of course which richard donner also directed another holiday classic lethal weapon Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. There you go.

Also take place at Christmas time. Also a horror, or also a Christmas movie. Yes. We'll go with that. Filming began in December, 1987 with Christmas approaching director Richard. I didn't know this was that old. I thought it was like a 90s movie. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it didn't think it was that old. Yeah. With Christmas approaching, director Richard Donner asked if the production could have Christmas day off. Paramount Pictures executives refused insisting that filming should continue on Christmas days. They said, God damn it's a Christmas movie.

We're filming on Christmas Day. For God's sake, tomorrow's the 4th of July. However, Donner... However, Donner outwitted them, and at the end of the day on December 24th, he fired the entire cast and crew. Two days

later, on December 26th, he rehired everyone. That's awesome. Uh-huh. Unless you weren't even on the joke, in which case you're like, what the fuck, man. The break allowed the cast and crew members to spend Christmas with their families, so that was cool. Oh, nice, nice. When the ghost of Christmas present, Carol Kane, grabbed Bill Murray's lip, she tore it so badly that filming was halted for several days.

Stop injuring the talent. Man. All right. Scrooge. Let's pull it up here. I'm going to go ahead and start sharing, because it's going to take a second to get there, I think. Hopefully, this goes better than the story of Ricky.

Hopefully, we remember to record this time. No shit. We remember to record the last time, too. Skype fucked up. I'm sticking to my fucking story on that one. Fucking Skype. Something fucked up. All right.

Starting at zero. I've got an hour and 40 minutes. I'm sure they have one on Amazon Prime, but I can't play that on here. All right. Countdown. From other sources. Three, two, and one. That sounds like... I can hear it.

Fucking Gremlins. Yeah, this is great, man. Great soundtrack already. Oh, that's kind of loud, huh? Too loud? The tad. Yeah, just a bit. Yeah, just a bit.

Oh, man. There we go. Yeah. Perfect. You all can hear it? Yep. Yep. Okay, cool. You should this isn't the Grinch?

This looks like it really does look like the Grinch. I don't remember it being like this. I don't know, but I haven't seen this movie like since it came out. I don't remember any of this. Is this great different to me? So the little people. The hell? Psych, we're watching Elf.

Oh. my god it is hell incoming what the hell i don't remember any of this man i guess i haven't seen this movie in a while yes same why i think of fire what the fucking oh this is the tv show they're filming oh oh okay oh okay yeah okay damn santa claus has got a fucking arsenal 007 showed up on a snow It's better than 007 It's Lee Majors

It's Lee Majors Of Lee majors Oh boy Oh man I met him at Texas Frightner one year That dude is so down to earth man Is he? Yeah very cool guy

Nice Very cool guy He definitely didn't pull Little Andy Where he said like I'll talk to you you'll buy something from me. Now, you know Santa's, you know Santa's got all that shit

there. He's, he's built a little fortress in the middle of nowhere in the North Pole. He's definitely got guns. Yes. Oh, you're right, Brian. Oh, my God, I forgot about this too. Holy shit.

Old fashion. When I see him, I'd see Beetlejuice. Oh, okay. Because he was the wife, the wife's house. husband and Beetlejuice. You guys remember when he was

a villain in one of the naked gun movies? vaguely. I don't think so. There's a guy named Richard. There's a guy named Richard Cheese. He sings like pop songs in this like old school style. It's like Robert Goulet.

Absolutely. Yeah, he did. What was that one song he did for the zombie movie? Like Down with a Sickness? You remember that? Oh, yeah. He also does waft. It's great.

Yes. He does. That's funny. Bobcat goes away. You can never go wrong with that dude. I fucking miss Bobcat. Me too. Yeah, he's still alive.

He's a director, man. Yeah, he's directing. He's got a kid and everything. Come on, man. That was bad. I'm sorry. Yeah. Had to give it a try.

West Berlin. Buddy hacking a scrooge. The solid gold dancers. Mary Lent. Tiny Tim. Okay, this is a little bit 80s. This is great, man. I wouldn't mind watching two hours of this.

I love Bill Murray so much. Even his shitty movies are great because he's in them. Is that Alphrey Woodard? Yeah. Jesus Christ. I don't think Bill Murray really plays a stretched from who he really is

which is a narcissistic asshole That's probably very true Oh what is her name Like everyone here looks familiar right But like Some of them weren't really that big Back in the day Mary Ellen trainer

That's her Okay She always played like Romancing the Stone The Monster Squad Despy concert. She played the mom. Yeah, she always played like the mom.

That makes it. Oh, shit, I knew it was from somewhere. Wolfman's got Nards. Oh, shit. She passed away too. Oh, damn. See, the only thing I'm surprised not to see on that long glass table is a super long line of cocaine. Oh, yeah.

Because you know, in a real entertainment industry business meeting, that would be there. Especially in 1988. It was snowing. Yeah. It was before they said action. Yeah, he's definitely had his fair share. Oh, yeah. The question is, does cocaine...

Yeah, the question is, is Bill Murray nicer or more of an asshole on, under the influence of cocaine? I'm sure more of an asshole. Yeah, probably. He's no Chevy Chase. There's not a lot of people who do a bunch of Coke and then they become really awesome people. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Acid rain.

Or meth, for that matter. Meth also has that same great grace when people use it. I've been stuck on these police body cam videos lately on YouTube. I love body cam like that show. And they

they've stopped a couple of chicks that were like all methed out and they make these insane faces. Like they'll open their mouth and turn their jaw all to the side like they're possessed or something and it's like they don't even know that they're doing it it's crazy no way yeah no they're just tweaking out big time kind of like the chick and the in the cheech and strong movie that they're like thought he was carrying cocaine around but it was ajax they're like i don't know how my car got in a ditch jesus christ they're how he talks in real life I heard he can't do the voice anymore.

Oh, no. I imagine. That probably takes a toll on your vocal cords. I guess so, yeah. He kind of sounded like it when he was on, it was a comedian who did the duck for Affleck. Oh, gosh. I am a blanket on his name.

Gilbert Godfrey? Yes. He was on Gilbert Godfrey's podcast before Gilbert. And he sounded normal. He had a little bit of that. That one I can do. Yeah, I think he can do a little bit, but like full-on, like 80s Bobcat. Right.

He can't. He can't do it. Change his locks. That is terrible hair, I got to say. Poor Bill Murray. Stop his bonus. What an asshole. right

code nine wow what a piece of shit I've had bosses like that's a six finger man like those are the people that I think contribute to workplace violence sadly no what I'm advocating for that it is bad

but they being such ass bags lead to it in some way so it's a mental health crisis it's kind of the perfect combination of things. He like can't stop doing the character. Right? Fishbag.

Police suit. Kind of shows that. I want to watch it. Your only brother. If I'm not mistaken, it's played by his actual brother. Oh, that would make sense. Yeah. That would make

sense. Brian Doyle, Murray, Brian? Yeah. Looking it up. And he was in Caddyshack as well. Yep. Ryan Doyle Murray. He's a lot more humble.

He's supposed to be a nice guy in real life, unlike his brother. Well, I haven't heard a lot of terrible shit. I haven't heard a lot of terrible shit about Bill Murray. It's just that he doesn't have a phone. You can't get a hold of him. And he just pops up in random places. I've heard about that too. Like he'll show up and like at parties and stuff like that.

Or like on the golf course. where people don't expect him. There was like a, wasn't there a documentary about that? Like, it's called fucking Bill Murray or something like that. That's awesome. Bill fucking Murray. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love to meet him in person. That would be amazing.

But I'm just putting up the expectation that he's probably an asshole. And then if he's not, then it's cool. Yeah, you never know. Some radical new therapy? What about Bob? It's one of my classics. Oh, that is a good one. That is a good one.

Sadly, that is accurate in mental health. You get those that are the... Oh, no. Yeah, that you're like, I got to transfer you to another therapist. Right. It just won't go away, huh? Cats and dogs watching television together? Programming for cats.

Lee Harvey, I want to party with you, But you and me together, forget it. If there was a dog channel on TV, I'd turn it on and leave it on for my dogs. I'm sure there is, dude. I'm sure there is. I'm sure there probably is. Mice. Rabbits. Daughters got a rabbit.

She leaves the music on for him. A cop that dangle string. Okay. He doesn't know what happened because he's a stupid fucking rabbit. But. Poor rabbit Ah, he's pretty cool. He just, you know, he's a rabbit.

They're kind of dumb. They're not like all sweet and cuddly or anything. They just run from you. They bite, don't they? I've heard they bite. If he gets mad. He'll thump at you if he gets mad. Oh.

But he runs from me because every time I'm involved, I'm like trimming his nails or cutting his hair or something. shit. There's there's Lionel Luther from Smallville, Lex Luthor's father. Bryce Cummings.

Isn't that him? He was in Grimelands too. He played the Trump version. Yeah. That's right. He was. Oh, God. That's right. He does have like a real asshole face. slight.

There's no chance he's playing a good guy. Bryce Cummings. Told that lady, hey, come, slam this door. Yeah. He had plenty of that cocaine. Mm-hmm. Christmas towel. This great Christmas towel.

They cross. They think they nail people, too. That's fucking terrible. Oh my gosh. Jesus Christ. That's really gagging but funny. Wow. Hey, it's that guy from the Tonight Show.

Is that him? The guy that leads the band. Yes, yes. That doesn't surprise me. So this guy looks familiar. What else has this other guy been in? His brother. Oh, that's not Brian Doyle-Murray.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Is it? Yeah, he's in Caddyshack. He's in other movies. He's just a lot younger than I remember. I always remember him from the, what's the John Cusack movies? Summer.

Summer rental? What is it called? My crazy summer or something? Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Wasn't a booger in that one too, Brian? Yeah. Yes.

I want to watch that movie. This guy is an ass. an asshole. Oh, that was nice of him. What an asshole. Burning hell. True New Yorker, through and through. Wow.

New York's crispest spirit, huh? What's better than a story of redemption? Right. The bad guy that changes his ways. Oh, yeah. He's gone a full bump yet.

Something tells me he was, into the alcohol before he got fired, just the way he was savoring it and smelling it. Sure didn't fucking control it. He left us a war in the seat. He hadn't appreciate anything, yeah.

I have been trashed and saved a cup of beer so many times in my life. I've dropped one bottle of wine ever. I guess this is Tiny Tim, basically. right? Oh yeah. Okay. I guess

it was but off. There you go. He loves his vodka and tab, isn't he? E, tab. That sounds horrible. They still may tab? Yeah. Yeah. Amazingly, yeah. I don't remember seeing it since

the 80s. I don't either. I remember. Very small section in the soda. Okay. The tab section, huh? his shitty soda section

you guys remember that one that had like all the sugar and twice the caffeine or whatever oh jolt yeah jolt jolt was the shit oh boy it's horrible for you but get that extra talk hand too

you to hold a Coke we've got just the thing for you he's got a gun in this Of course he does. Why would you not? Right. Who is this? Boy sounds familiar.

I want to say it sounds like J.R. Ewing, but it's not. Is he supposed to be like Bob Hope? Yeah, I guess. Oh, maybe a little bit. Like a Bob Hope type. Who is this guy? He looks super familiar. It's a hole in one. There's the door mouse.

David Johansson. Is that who the actor is? Ghost of Christmas past. That's this one, right? Mm-hmm. Do you say Lou Hayward? Yeah, Lee Hayward. John Forsy.

Oh. I don't think he's one of the... I think he's the ghost that tells you the ghosts that tells you the ghosts that are coming. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Oh, he was the voice of Charlie and Charlie's Angels. Hmm. That's why the voice sounds so familiar.

Angels? I've got a job. job for you to do. I hear it now. What kind of alcohol you've been drinking? Russian vodka, poison by Chernobyl. How do you get a hold of that shit? So does he get paid every time

somebody else makes a miniseries? That's what I'm wondering. Like he has to say in the matter. Oh, and the new Charles Angels, okay. So he does a lot of voice. acting it looks like. Like animated stuff and things like that?

Yeah. That would make sense. The voice is so familiar. Don't let me go, Lou. Oh shit. I wouldn't be tearing his fucking arm away. You're hanging out dangling over a street. Yeah, you're kidding. What an idiot.

Okay. And that should be the end of the movie. Except he's got a good drive. aged steak in his hand. Ah, okay. I had to look at his watch. It's been 15 years. That's a Bill Murray comedy, man.

Yep. It's so awfully different than anybody else. Oh, the old days. We had seven-digit phone numbers. Mm-hmm. I don't even think you put tab in that one. Okay. Well, it's a good thing it was soaked in alcohol because it came out of that dead guy's skull.

No kidding. with a mouse shit and all over it, right? The bonus was the towel. What a douche. Don't plug him in. Oh, poor kid. Poor tiny town.

That's where he was for the rest of the movie. Right. That's fucked up. Tiny Tim. Look that bullshit pouty face. You're faking, kid. Get out of here. You're enjoying every second of this.

Is that the lady who's cab he took? Yeah, I had to have been. It's all coming back to him now. This is terrific. Oh, Jesus. Cool, boy. I'm sure he would have. Can you see the nipple?

Or is that a separate section of the nipple? You know what I mean? Like it's there, but it's not really. The horiola. Yeah. It's just a peach. Yeah. Lumpy.

Where's Dr. Jones? There's Marion. Oh. Oh, I knew I recognized her. Oh, what did you guys think about the new Indiana Jones movie? It's amazing how you don't ever have to go outside the film movie. I kind of liked it, man. That beginning went way too far with the uncanny valley look of young Dr. Jones.

But once they got to grumpy old Dr. Jones, that's kind of what I was there for, you know? I just hated the CGI like you guys. It's outside of that. Yeah. It's real bad. Look at the dancers in the background. Good Lord. Did I miss nipples?

No, no. Yeah, you did. You did actually. Damn it. Oh, wait. Make sure her nipples are covered up. And this is the 80s. I think I see pubic hair sticking out too.

Before the Brazilian wax skin popularity. Someone who'd be part of the MPAA was douchebags. Fucking pint up angry housewives. That's all the MPA are, the bored housewives. Tipper Gore. Yes. Oh, God. She just didn't get me started on her.

I remember when they were having all those trials and like Frank Zappa showed up. And who else did Ozzy? Fuck. Oh, Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper, remember? Yeah, there's a fuck town, yeah. Those were hilarious, man. Ozzy was in like a legit trial. It was.

Well, like somebody, some kid shot somebody or something, and they were trying to blame it. Oh, I heard about that. Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. Suicide solution, right? Yeah, there it is. Oh, good Lord.

That's like the West Memphis 3, that famous case. Yeah, they blamed it on Black Sabbath. Oh, yeah. Fucking Satan's on something. Yeah. He's a little worm. There's Tiny Tim. Some questions downtown, my friend.

That's really racist. I'm about to say, I don't know. Four years old. I don't know about you guys, but if my kid shows up at the office and somebody starts laying their hands on him, Oh, I'm gonna lay them out. Yeah, I'm laying them out, even if they're my boss. Grabbing your kid by the lapels like that?

Yeah. And saying, hey, let's go downtown, yeah. Yeah, no shit. Racist prick. Very smooth. Mm-hmm. I feel like those two work together. They seem like they're probably about the same age,

and they're like kind of attractive, but not at the same time. Operation Reach. I'm telling you. To not eat clams. No double meeting there, Philip. Good Lord. Oh, no. The Titanic.

I think so. Is that we stealing the silverboard? Definitely no spring chicken, that's for sure. Pain of the Berlin Wall. Oh, boy, here we go. Lionel Luther Look at that guy's face You know you can't trust him

Oh no kidding Use car salesman all the way right It's been driven by one grandma Who used to take it to the bingo parlor And back twice a week That's a fancy watch That that is That cocaine is really kicking in right now

They're like what the fuck Back from the Titanic Is that supposed to be there? Are you him? Are you he? Is that grammatically correct? I don't know. Great question.

And if he's such a, if he's so great at words, why is he waiting at a restaurant? Shouldn't he be teaching English as a PhD or something? I don't know. The waiters that have to wear suits. They make some money, huh? Typically make some money. Yeah? baked Alaska.

Maybe this just rolls right into that Christmas is actually built on mushrooms theory. Tell Sean about that theory. Sean might have stepped away for a minute. He'll be back. Nice little fire stunt. Yeah. And real fire, Brian, not CGI.

I thought you were Richard Pryor. I love the 80s. He said he thought he was Richard Pryor. Yeah, I don't know. sure i understand that joke yeah the free basing remember he he burned himself free basing oh okay probably maybe probably so what the hell there we go all right sean you get to hear the mushroom story okay oh he seemed to be hallucinating and there's this like christmas mushroom theory that i probably based in reality. It was like some Nordic tradition of, uh, that like they would hang.

Ah, there's the ghost of Christmas past. There is. Uh, so they used to have these, like the amnitia muscaria mushroom is like the Mario mushroom, right? The, okay. With the red cap and the little white spots. And so there's, if you look up old Christmas cards, they actually have pictures of like the mushrooms. I've seen those. Yeah, I've seen those. and so that's where you get the red and green from the presents and all that because they would grow at the base of the trees

and there was this shaman that would so goes to the story there's like they they outlawed the shaman right and so he would have to like sneak into the chimneys and drop off mushrooms to these people

interesting and apparently caribou are big on it like they love the there's another another one, it's like a fly Angonet mushroom or something like that. Anyway, they look, they look basically the same. And they love this mushroom. That's how they used to catch caribou. And, uh, like they would knock people over after they had urinated after taking the mushrooms. Because apparently after it passes through systems, it's even more potent. So the reindeer are flying. Get it? That makes more sense on, on the line. lot of the traditions of Christmas. I had not heard that before, though.

Oh, yeah. No, it's kind of awesome. There's more to it. I'm just forgetting a lot of it, I'm sure. Well, you said something had to do with, like, the elves, right? Like, they thought they saw elves or something like that coming through the window, but it was people that were just dripping. I think you said something like that. I don't know if I ever went into that, but I mean, I guess that would be possible. That's sort of that, you know, Northern European, that Northern European, that Northern, that Northern European thing is kind of where elves were started, right? Like, old fairies and shit. Yeah.

Ferries wear boots. Yeah. You got to believe me. So they went back to 1955, huh? I was seeing, is that his dad's house? And apparently his dad did not, does not decorate for Christmas. Right. Brian pointed out that it was Buster Poindexha.

Is he got like Spock ears, like point of ears or what? Yeah. The lone ranger. The lone ranger. Classic. That's Brian Doyle Murray. That, yeah, the guy wasn't. Okay, but the other guy wasn't Brian Doyle Murray.

Maybe that was another Murray. Maybe there's three of them. He does have more than one brother. That would make sense. Okay. I'm going to have to look it up. Yeah, apparently he was also, I forgot this, but Brian Doyle Murphy was in Groundhog Day.

Oh, yeah. I think he was, I think he's one of the cast of Saturday Night Live for a couple of seasons, too. Yeah, that makes sense. There was something else, another big one besides Caddyshack. Oh, he was the Clark Griswold's boss in National Amput. Yeah, the one they kidnapped. Yeah.

Wouldn't give him with Chris. bonus and see who the and now he's in a voice in SpongeBob square pants and does a bunch of Christmas movies is he really a real actor it's he does all kinds of voices in SpongeBob holy shit that's awesome like the flying Dutchman that's bomb the atomic Dutchman hey if you can make a career out of it that's pretty pretty cool yeah for sure man I wouldn't mind being a voice actor if you could actually break into it and get consistent work. Yeah, there's a lot of those guys where, like, they're just kind of that guy in movies. You're like, no, I know that guy.

And then it turns out they've done a lot of voices for cartoons and video games and shit. Video games are big right now, man. There's been a bunch of them where you look through, and a lot of their voice credits are video games. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. Garden slugs. 1968. We're moving forward in time now.

That's kind of neat how they do the year there with the cab fare. Yeah. She's photocopying her butt. Right. And that was his boss, right, that they just showed the older guy? The one that was the voice in Charlie's Angels? Oh, probably. Yeah, I love his longer hair.

That's him, right? Yeah, I think so. That's funny. He's got that long hair, but he's still balding on top. I think I'd go out to eat Chinese food with her. What an idiot you are, you want to sleep with the Jersey whore? I probably would, Philip. Why not? Well, sleep with and, like, get in a relationship with her two totally different things.

Yeah, that is very true. That's true. Makes it even better in a way, right? She looks exactly the same. They both look exactly the same 20 years before. He's just as bald, and she looks at the exact same age. Well, this is before they had the de-aging technology. That's true.

Yeah. Sorry, I had to mute for a second because I'm sneezing like a motherfucker. Oh, wow. I know what you're really doing, Sean. You're back through doing cocaine with Bill Murray, aren't you? Oh, sir. We're getting a night for the show. Thanks, Lumpy.

Not really. Uh-huh. Smoking some river? Hey, why not? Mm-hmm. A gorilla climbing up on that big building. I love Bill Murray dressed as like a beatnik. Right.

It doesn't fit, does it? No, not at all. He definitely plays a yuppie better, much better. Oh, yeah, for sure. Great knives. Jimson You can cut a tin can as easily as tomato I remember those commercials

Yeah they were garbage Just like it most things on you know telecom commercials Kind of reminds me of Kind of reminds me if you can dodge a wrench You can dodge a ball God I love that movie

You need to do a commentary on that There you got might be the next one That would That would be hilarious. I love dodge balls so much. Camusitra. Oh. He's like, well, if I hadn't just done,

if I hadn't just done an eight ball of cocaine, I might join you in this. I'm having a little trouble getting it up right now. While he watched. They're cute together. That worked. Right. chemistry.

He's drunk as a skunk, looking. Is he? It's a bone. Lassie. Frisbee the dog. Is that Bobcat? Nope. That's it.

Don't worry. You see his bald spot. Yep. It's been the exact same for eternity. Yep. I'll have Charlie's Angels. join us. Uh-oh.

Oh, that shitbird, turning it around. Yeah, that's the kiss of death right there. I know better than to say that to a woman. Turn it around and making him the victim. Yep. Screams borderline personality. He doesn't even seem bothered.

Mm-mm. He's just sweating gallons under that costume, isn't he? Good Lord. that's got to be miserable. Especially after doing an eight ball of cocaine. Right. Oh, lumpy. That seems like a weird thing to leave him over.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I get the feeling it's been building up, right? Is that kind of what they're insinuating, like over the last three years or so? Yeah, his habits have changed where he was more and more selfish. Yeah. Yeah. statement of a true narcissist.

Mm-hmm. And I know what's going on. What's going on? That was a pretty damn good... Transition. Christmas past, right? Yeah. Ebenees, huh?

I think he was on the Titanic, too, wasn't he? Oh, there's Buddy Hackett. God, what a douchebag. He's actually worse. Having seen the first guest. Pick aside, Grandma. 20 l is a pint. Can't say I haven't said that a couple times in my life.

Right. Right. He's thinking of his next bottle of bourbon. The what? A widow. We need a widow of business. Another wild and woolly one. Oh, man.

get Kerman He's definitely done a couple of lines He's definitely done a couple of lines You know, Claire What you said if it happened again I should come by Well, what happened? Well, I have been thinking a lot about the path

And you know, when it happens You start thinking yourself, well, I've made a lot of decisions And what would have happened if I had made different decisions. Do I mean? Are you talking about regret? Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about regret. Yeah.

You know the one good thing about regret is that it's never too late. You can always change if you want to. Okay, we'll deal with that every day. Okay, we'll deal with this. I want to take you someplace right now and keep Chinese. Mm-hmm. There is a lot of the holes. I'll show you where they are in just a second.

They were supposed to be here hours ago. Okay, well, I'll call him and just to say, can you wait? Would you wait for? Well, they can handle this. This isn't a big deal. That's not a big deal. Just suffuses. Very dangerous.

Jesus Christ. What a shit bird in a homeless shelters, ain't that? He's probably one of those that says they choose to be here in this homeless shelter. I'm sure we would. Though there are those that do choose it. Yeah, a lot of them. Yeah, I've got several patients that choose to continue to do meth and other drugs and stay on the street, even with like, you know, full-blown, like, schizophrenia and stuff.

And I'm like, you know, let's talk about, you know. That's a dangerous combo. Yeah, it is. It only improves the psychosis. Do you hear what he asked him? He said, can you give me $2 so I can eat the place? Get a bottle of cheap booze. That's over-the-top British, a cockney accent.

Alessed by these sea urchins. Sea urchins. Street urchants. It is a little hard to understand, buddy hack it sometimes. More snow. Yeah, there's definitely a theme here. Oh, what a douche. He's totally throwing him under the bus.

Oh, yeah. He's a bigger douche than Bill Murray is. That's a hard, that's a tough one there, man. Yeah. I mean, that's why he played, like, Trump asks so well in Gremlin's tune. Sure, sure. Swarming. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Time for another ghost. Every time I see her, I think of the Have fun storming the castle Oh, is that who that is? Yeah. She's been in a bunch of things. Oh, yeah.

She's in the new Star Trek series, Strange New Orleans, the one that's the prequel to the original series. Oh, that's right. She is in that. Oh, there's that injury. You can see. See how he really hurt him. Yeah, he was like, ah. Like a possessed doll or something.

More cocaine. Look, he's trying to keep cracking up. Can you imagine how many takes that took to get through that? That line had some feeling behind it, I'm sure. She's been in a bunch of shit, too. Oh, hell yeah. this must have been one of her first roles because she's bigger now than she's ever been

yeah actually a kid looks kind of familiar now that I'm thinking about it poor kid can he see them you know how they say sometimes kids can see things that grown-ups can't yeah I guess they're not going to go here though okay what a douche

Jesus Christ doesn't even didn't even realize she was in mourning. Hmm. You're watching the old, the old Christmas Carol. Tight one. She's a very abusive little fairy. Yes, she is. No kidding.

More. She's kind of great. Hi, Goujo. Did she say? Kujo? Yeah. Hi, Kujo. Didn't take long for that word to get into prominent mythology, did it?

Nope. I don't know. Had Kujo the movie even come out by 88? I guess it had. Yeah, I think it was what, 84, 85? That sounds about right. I'm so glad I wore a pretty dress. Piano count. He looks like a Bill Murray as well. Like, is that Bill Murray's other brother?

Yeah, they're probably all related. I'm guessing. Because they all have the same facial features. Yeah, sure, sure. He's just a little chunkier in the face. Look currier. He didn't do as much cocaine. Yeah.

If Bill Murray wasn't on the Coke, he'd weigh, what, 500 pounds? Probably. Top of a lot of VCR. That was, that was, that was, That's probably like $800. Those things were like $800 back then. And then the videotapes were like $100 each if you wanted to buy them. You had to go down and rent them.

It's insane. Oh, I miss VHS. In video stores. You ought to see Steve Carlton's set up, man. I saw it like, yeah, the video. Yeah, the whole lotbuster store. Speaking of the geeks, are they not like recording just episodes, like audio? Are they just doing live?

Because normally I used to get all their episodes. And I haven't, I've only seen like when they're recording live and that's it, like video and everything. Yeah, they do the Saturday night show. I usually end up listening to the audio show because I've in the past always had something going on on Saturday night. But now that we're here, I think I might be able to watch some of the shows live. Yeah, since you're on Eastern Standard time. Yeah, and have a little more time without all the grandkids around every weekend and stuff. Yeah, that's fair.

Jesus Christ. The answer is mackerel. I didn't get the question. The ship on Gilligan's Island. It was called the mackerel? No, it was the S.S. Minow. Yeah, it was the mackerel. Where are with Trump Tower?

Jersey. Is that the guy that was at the homeless shelter earlier, Michael J. Pollard? Coffee's on me. Give me a happy ending here. Yeah. He should have given him the $2 so he could about a bottle of bourbon. He'd still be alive. Yeah, he says high.

Jesus Christ. He's on so much cocaine. He probably feels like he's 120 degrees in the middle of all the that ice. Well, if you choose to hang out in the sewers, it's probably not going to stay for you. Chances are you. You're not going to meet Splinter and learn the market and eat pizza. In the middle of the winter, huh?

Yeah. Go for it. It's the hell says. I imagine that's not the only time he's had to use that line. Right? Why is there a folder that says hip-hop? Merry Lou Retton. Hold on, guys. My dog scratched on the door.

Dogs attacking. Yeah, the dogs. Dogs watch the movie here. Still got the tab and vodka, huh? The door mice. Cat TV. Got the cats believing it. Well, we've already figured out how to hypnotize people.

Let's do it with animals. Right? You can barely see the tab in that. It's like puts like a drop of tab and a half a bottle of vodka. That's how I drink the whiskey and Coke. A splash of Coke? Yeah. That dude's been in a lot of westerns. There's 1988 special effects.

I don't hate it. No, it's not bad. Oh, here's your twist. Sean You were saying earlier Hello Webbit Well that's both shots

Yeah he's still going Get back to me after the holidays I hung out in the sewer I gotta say If your wife left you because you got fired That's kind of on you Yeah she was probably on the way out the door already right All she did was do you a favor.

Find somebody else. That may work with the chicks. Just checking. Looks very hellraiser, doesn't it? I forgot how trippy this last section was. Yeah, and it makes sense that he'd be on the TV, right? Because the TV raised him because his dad didn't care about him. So I just watch TV all the time.

Yeah. So why she's like wearing something from the Old Testament. They didn't explain that, did they? Philip looks like he's got the Ghost of Christmas Pass floating around behind him back there. He's got... Philip, is that the Ghost of Christmas Pass behind you? Yeah.

Get out of you, sea urchins. The little little... sea urchins. The little sea urchins. I was wondering when he said it. I was like the sea urchins. I hate when I get molested by sea urges. Oh, no.

We don't want that. We don't want that. Don't you hate that? Disneyland. Yeah, this is a little trippy. The only people that came to this funeral. Hmm. Ajarajerk.

He did one live. too many, Philip. Brian, we were talking about all the snow that went into the production of this movie. Not half as much as Scarface. Are you using cold, Lance? I think that's the kind of snow we're talking about. It was a very Christmas on set.

Yes, I think so. Very different time. Oh, boy. And look, he had a Christmas, and it made him a better person. I'm telling you, it's about mushrooms. I'm alive. Bob gets about to shoot him.

See, Bill Murray has got like a little bit of Nicholas Cage in him, right? Where he just goes, yeah. He just goes Bill Murray and does his own thing and it works. I used the word stoop in a conversation the other day. Yeah. Proud of you, man. Yeah, it has a concussion now. And that explains some of the films he's directed.

Bobcat's whole character is just him geeking out, isn't it? Oh, sure, sure. And his movies are pretty weird, man. A goof. Buy me a goof. And all of London. King Candy from Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, no.

That guy's hands are. I didn't even notice that. I talk to my TV like that sometimes Right, right? Don't we all? He was fired the next day Yes, if they wait that long I was like, does he have a phone For a second

A cell phone He did just come from the future That's true, that's true, that's true Not the mackerel Why do you tell her? Hello like that I know, that was weird Not like your brother's wife Or is she?

She's kind of hot. Bryce Cummings. Dude, I love Bobcat. Okay. Does this mean everybody's getting VHS players? Looks that way, yeah? That is not what I expected to happen after that look. I thought they were like trying to plan to get out or something.

She's like, well, he's tied up. I guess I can go molest him. That may be next. Those goddamn sea urchins. Yeah, thanks for putting that on TV there, buddy. He said he's got a little bit of Nick Cage in a film. He does. Like, he goes full Bill Murray sometimes and just, like, wax out on his Bill Murrayness,

which is exactly what Nick Cage does with his Nick Cageness. True. And it makes the movie better. time. Machine taping this. Well, they do have a VHS now, Brian. I know. Not even using it.

Nope. Well, that's the point. He went from kicking the cat to smiling. McKinem. It's that speech is working. Now he's like a televangelist. I feel like this is improv. A little bit.

One of the greatest Zig Zig Zigler quotes. Helping other people. Help enough people get what they want and you'll get what you want. I'm paraphrased. It's a good one. It's a good one. It's a good one. And now he has a heart attack from all the cocaine.

I was about to say, who still has a black and white TV in 88? But I guess that was the camera monitor. She should have been the love interest. Did he have a father of the figure? How did she get to the studio that quickly? Are she there already? The ghost of Christmas past. Ah, okay.

Okay. Okay. I was about to say it felt like he just. started that speech. Yeah, she's hailing a cab, and she said, can you get me here by this time? He said, which floor? All right.

I get that now. Now he's screwed. Who knows the words? Mm-hmm. It's turned into a musical, Brian. I know. We can end this right now. You just wisely.

You've got the zombie singing. The hell raiser. I love it. All right. Well, that's it. Thanks for coming by, man, as always. Hey, man, that was a hell of a, hell of a Christmas movie right there.

And I haven't seen that one in decades. It's been a while, huh? Now she's molesting him. Is he like okay with that or are we just consent? No, I think he's... It's 1988 and he's a guy, so, you know. All right, well, we want to thank you guys for all listening to another episode of the horror returns.

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from... One time Sean was on here for a commentary. We had the Forbidden Zone. Oh, my gosh. All right. Next week's... the big week right Brian what do we got coming up what's the what's the format next week Brian the annual best and worst of and we'll be also got a lot of work to do also

we're gonna pick we each are going to tell everybody our favorite TV series of the year all right anything anything else any last minute surprises you're going to spring on us no we're we're keeping it simple this year our bottom and our top and bottom list don't even have to be strictly horror. All right. We can go for that. And so I guess that means the week after that, we're probably going to see Pedro.

Yep. All right. Pedro always comes on the next week to give us his top 10 and bottom 10. The Pedro of Christmas future. Sean, thanks for joining us, man. What's next? I think you're on mute.

All right. In that case, Philip until the horror returns again. I was wondering where the hell you went. Good night. Sorry, Sean.