The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #399: Rock ‘n’ Roll Nightmare (1987) & Destroy All Neighbors (2024)

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

This week, we rock out with the new Shudder release Destroy All Neighbors and the Jon Mikl Thor classic Rock ‘n’ Roll Nightmare. Cool of the week includes Echo, Equalizer 3, and Godzilla Minus One. Trailers are No Way Up and Abigail. The podcast spotlight shines on The Terrible Terror Podcast. And we get feedback from Ariel Wellman, Jerry Eberts, Marcus Wilturner, Xim Vader, Al Ramseur, Don Anelli, and Cameron Sullivan, Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

Hello, Brian. Or should I say Old Scratch? Or Bub? Belsibu. Also known by the Hindu as Bigotakatatoga.

Shaitan. I don't know. That's me, or are you the Archangel intercessor? Yes, I am Tripod or whatever his name was. Oh, my God. Yeah, on second viewing, Philip.

That's a pretty deep movie, man. There's a lot to do that. A lot to unpack. Thank you. You read a little too much into it. Definitely not just rock and roll tits and special things.

Oh, shit. He had the biggest tips in the whole movie. I know. The lesbian show. The last scene. We'll talk about that scene. Oh, man. All right.

So, uh, fuck. Let's get better here. As victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the whole returns.

Listeners beware. This podcast contains. major plot spoilers and the foulest of language join us in celebrating the old and the new the best and the worst in horror soundboard dooo dooo dooo dooo dooooooooo dooooooooo can rock and roll motherfuckus and i better be quiet in a hotel room in tampa oh oh the Florida man's gonna break in oh that's me bucka back to the horror returns.

We've got we got to come up with all new names. All right. Oh, man. We got Ferocious Bill in the house. What's up? Ferocious Bill? What's up?

Are these the rock and roll names? These are the rock and roll names. We got... We're starting to band. We got Blues Daddy Brian. What's up in the house, Blues Daddy, Brian? Not my genre, but I'll take it. And we got...

I don't know, y'all give me a name. Somebody help me out. I know, Luscious Lance. I don't know. There we go. All right, I'll take it. Luscious Lance, playing the pace. And this is our very, very special one episode away from number 400 folks.

So we thought we'd finally do it and bring you guys a rock and roll episode. So we're going to be doing the brand new, 2000, 2024. 2004 release, destroy all neighbors. Will it surpass Night Swam for me for my favorite movie of the year? Let's find out. And it's a classic, Philip. You know it, you love it. We covered it on the Horror Mafia show.

What is our second feature, Philip? Rock and Roll Nightmare. Otherwise known as... I don't know what was the other name of the movie. Brian, did you do? catch the title card? Yeah, I wrote it down. The Edge of Hell.

The Edge of Hell. Oh, I like Rock and Roll Nightmare better. Classic bad movie when you get a different title when you watch the movie. And when it's free on YouTube. Yes. Ah, yes. Okay, well, we're going to, we're going to shred it up tonight. I don't know.

I can't do, I can't keep up with the rock and roll. analogies. It's another episode of the horror returns, folks. Thanks for joining us. Let's jump into Cool of the Week. We've got a lot to unpack with this older movie. So, Brian, you got...

I'll put it... Yeah, I'll put it to you this way, guys. When you... It's a great show. I really hope they bring her back because I'm the coming back home story. Yeah. give you a little

I mean I don't know a lot of people are saying hey Marbles back Marvel's back I never thought they went anywhere you guys were shitting all over Secret invasion Secret invasion

Like it started good But I think maybe All right Let's talk about Echo Fuck secret invasion man And the side characters You gotta have the comic relief Philip

You gotta check it out dude It's yeah like Brian said It's only about a five hour Invett Oh okay and I believe the little girl that plays the younger version the evil empire we'll pay you a bunch of money

come on oh come on this isn't rush yeah great great series man good good side characters and yeah I can see this I can see this going you know going in other directions so are they going to do like new, I don't know, I guess it's all

hearsay, nobody knows what they're going to do now, Brian, but aren't they, aren't they supposed to do like a new Avengers with like, uh, all new cast of characters and kind of start from, from scratch again? What's his name, messed everything out? Getting convicted.

Yeah. Well. I think they're, I know they officially took the, the King title off the next Avengers movie, so I think they're going to have to rewrite some things.

Oh, I know Nes wants to see the West Coast Avengers. Do you think that'll ever happen? As a movie? No, we'll see them, but not as a movie. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know enough about the... I think it could recast Kang and... You think so? I don't think anybody would care. Well, Brian, you said they're talking Coleman Domingo, right? But is that

Kang or a different character? Uh, Kang, but he he's a great actor but now I'm looking at him he does look considerably older than Jonathan Majors

yeah yeah I mean he'd be great in anything he's in but yeah I don't know if he should be playing you know like a young it's kind of like casting

uh... Mahershal Ali is played it's like why not just get Wesley if you're gonna go that much like he's only like five or six years younger it's kind of when they did James Bond. They always asked older characters. I heard Wesley on the Blade movies

kind of, especially in the third one, try to do what the Rock does when he stars in a movie tries to kind of take over. Yeah, it didn't sound like he was the easiest person in the world to work with. Not good. Not good.

And before they casted the new Blade, I heard he had a lot of ideas for new Blade movies. I don't think anybody was asking if he had any ideas. Yeah, let's make a 14-foot-tall blade and have him run roughshod through a drive-in theater, right? Met up with Ant Man.

All right, Philip, what's he got, man? I checked out the Equalizer 3. Oh, did he look like he was 70 years old, like Pedro was saying? No, I mean, he got... shot in the beginning of it so most of the movie he's like recovering so it kind of works okay he definitely doesn't have the badass fight scenes but i also went back and watched the first one and i you know there's not a ton of badass fight scenes in the first one he's just kind of a badass dude like okay just there are some but it's it's very quick you know the first one he does

MacGyver a lot of stuff Yeah, that's true And then when you get to the third one, he's just Shooting and stabbing Yeah, but I still enjoyed it, man, I had a pretty good time, I like the I like the message behind it, the

Lone Ranger good guy who doesn't really want any recognition, he just does the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Yeah, I mean without spoiling it, especially what you find out what his initial thing in the beginning was all about

what he was there at the place in the beginning what he was after and he could have could have took everything if he wanted to but no he took what was taken from the person he was helping

yeah he's just a a good guy a classic good guy you don't really see a whole lot of those anymore in a movie yeah kind of a force for balance then huh yeah that's uh that's that's pretty much all i got i watch those couple of movies and rock and roll nightmare

all right well i watched i watched the movie at the theater this week guys that would have just blown my top ten out of the completely out of order brian i think you know what i'm talking about man well there's one in the theater that i definitely want to see at somebody which one wait night swims in your top ten Oh, that's a true. Or maybe I'm talking about last year. Oh, okay. You know what I'm talking about.

Beekeeper? Let me give you a clue. Go, go, Godzilla! Oh, Godzilla minus one. Oh, my God. That movie is so fucking good. I want to go see the Beekeeper. Yeah, I heard that is, I just, I didn't read the whole review,

but I heard the beekeeper's action pack. It looks cool and shit. Just the trailer's action pack, dude. I needed a Xanax after watching the trailer. Fuck. So tell us about Godzilla. Well, it starts out as a human drama, which kind of, I mean, Pedro sold me on it, and I knew it was going to be good, but I didn't think it was going to be this good.

Because, like, the human drama part of the story, it's a World War II story. And it's like, it's from the Japanese perspective at the end of World War II, like, right before the two bombs drop. so it's like it's just it's so incredibly well done the way that they show you what it's like for example you know to be enlisted as a kamikaze pilot and so you know the war is already lost

you know for a fact I mean Hitler's already dead at this point and they're still wanting these guys to fly into fucking battleships and stuff like that just to prove their honor you know for the empire and you know so you've got basically it's a

it's a it's a Kamakazi pilot who starts to kind of question things and it kind of from there like I don't know within the first 10 or 15 minutes He lands on an island and he says that his plane isn't working right and they so they work on his plane and say you know what We found nothing wrong with it. Are you sure your plane was really broken or did you just not want to do that Kamikaze run and he's like you question my honor You know and it kind of goes from there and then all of a sudden you hear you all these dead fish bubble up to the surface in the ocean and you start hearing this rumbling and like everybody's looking around and said, oh, we heard about this. It's the monster.

Oh, there's no monster. Oh, yeah, there is. And then next thing, you know, Godzilla's foot lands on somebody. And that's 10 minutes in and the action never stops. And the human drama is amazing. I've never, I'm going to tell you right now this, however they did the CGI in this movie,

take, you know, if you're an American filmmaker, take heed, this is how you do CGI. You don't do the fake CGI fire and the fake CGI smoke. No, make it like this where it literally looks like a fucking prehistoric monster is in a World War II battleship. Maybe it was. Maybe it was. Possibly.

Possibly they found a way to open the core to the center of the earth. Is it subtitled or is it in English? It's totally subtitled, man. It's definitely in Japanese. There's not a whole lot, though. I mean, it's like not overwhelming because there's so much action at the movie. movie. The plan that they have to get rid of Godzilla makes perfect sense. Everything's believable. It's just a great film. But I think my favorite part of the whole movie, Brian, you and I said that 2022 was like the year of the horror soundtrack, like the smile and all that. Okay, well, this is the best soundtrack I've heard since anything from that year. It's just phenomenal. And I was leaving the theater and like that whole night, I was like laying in bed and in, and, just I could hear the soundtrack going through my mind.

It stayed with me that much. So this is one of those. When Led Zeppelin did the soundtrack for 2000 Godzilla with Matthew Broderick. Oh my God, dude. I forgot all about that. I did, too. Let's forget about that. Let's focus on this one, dude.

This is amazing. This is one movie soundtrack that I might actually want to go out and buy like the vinyl for or something. Because you know they're going to have a phenomenal album for this with liner notes and everything. Are you going to watch the black and white version that they're about to release in theater? Didn't even know they were going to do it, but you can, you better believe I'm going to check it out, man. And I'm hopeful that this director does more, you know, Kaiji movies. Because I'm not a huge fan of the genre, but this one was so good that I'll check out anything that these filmmakers do.

So everything was perfect. I mean, it's a great film. We're definitely recording, right? I hope so I'm sorry uh oh I got I got a back okay

I was going to say if we're not that's going to suck okay that's cool of the week what's next somebody want me out here news got any news Brian yes

but as per usual I was not prepared should I have have pulled up well you guys want to go visit the trailer park and come back all right i got i got some news pulled up here does it involve secret invasion season two well that'll never happen well it looks like nev campbell has expressed interest in returning which means okay dollar signs might have added up oh uh they back They said a little bit from what I read from her was like she wants to continue to franchise because she loves it and she wants to do it for Wes and the circumstances are all correct, which just kind of sounds like the numbers were right on the paycheck.

It sounds like the money truck's backing up. So is James Wan going to produce? Did Philip Harris? Yeah. sorry I'm trying to keep the dog chill Philip is James Wan gonna produce That's the question You produce me a latte

The crackinated I don't know what James Wahn's doing Besides Aquaman 3 That series is over I hope That's the James Gunn era now

Oh boy Well that could get interesting have a lot more faith than James Gunn than I do in James Wan right now. Understandable. Understandable. Let's see. Fear Street 4 is in pre-production, and this one will be based on the Prom Queen book from R.L. Stein,

which I have no idea what it is, but I enjoyed all three Fear Street movies, so. Oh, that was several years ago, wasn't it? Yeah, it was the, I think it was like a three-night event on Netflix. I still haven't seen those, man. Yeah, they're very, like, I think the first one was Fear Street, 1990-something, and the second one was 1970s. That's right. Okay. And they were very much shot in that era.

Yeah. I was worried with the R.L. Stein thing, that it was going to be a little too young adult, but it was good. Kid-ish? Yeah, I liked it. Oh yeah, there's just some graphic moments in there with the kills. Oh, yeah. I'll just say, wait for the deli slicer in the first movie. Yeah.

That's the best one. What's his name? Zach Krieger, I believe he was the director of Mourberian in his next movie is going to be weapons. Weapons, uh-huh. May have lost Pedro Pascal. I heard about that. What happened, man? The rumor is he's going to be Reed Richards and the Fantastic Four.

They could do worse. They could do worse, as long as he doesn't remove his helmet. So with that, they're saying with that in the last of us, season two, there's no way he's going to have time to film anything else. I kind of like the... What's his nut? The guy from the office. Oh, that's right. Krasinski.

Jack Reacher. Yeah. No, he was Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan, sorry. It's not confirmed he's Mr. Fantastic. So, I mean, he could be playing somebody completely different. Oh, hold on, hold on. Stay with me, guys.

Him as Mr. Fantastic and Nicholas Cage is the thing. How does that work? Oh, no, but it'd be awesome, wouldn't it? They'd work together. I put Nicholas Cage in as anything. He should be Dr. Doom. They could just do acid together. Oh, yeah.

That would be a good Dr. Dean, wouldn't it? That's a good segue. Because Nicholas Cage is going to play a serial killer in Oz Perkins' next movie called Long Legs. Oh. Not a surprise. I can see that. I didn't see that last one where I guess

everybody's having a dream of him or whatever oh that was that was pretty good it was kind of a dark comedy little contentious kind of but it was all right do you see it Brian I was going to

but it just it's on it's on the docket but it just wasn't high up there on the list I don't think you guys are going to enjoy it a lot I think you're going to become like me where it's like okay it's cool to watch

but it's not like one of his best but prove me wrong you know maybe maybe you guys love it we'll see a couple more things here 28 years later is finally in development it'll be glad 28 years later but literally yeah not only Danny Boyle's back of course he did the first two movies but Alex Garland is going to be one of the writers okay and Lance of course you liked um what was the one he did with the men last year men and uh what was what was the one with the shimmer oh we all we all love

that when i even read the books it was so good um fuck oh annihilation annihilation i wanted to say r again uh what was the one i can't i can't remember anything right now ex-ex mokin he had that one so he's a good person to be involved ex-mocking is one of my favorite movies of all time that was a masterpiece oh wow that's strong words dude so are you guys going to be watching civil war then that's gonna be a whole different type of movie for him i'm interested i was fat damon i was shocked that his name popped up as director oh yeah yeah yeah it looks tied to that for a while it looks super interesting i'll definitely watch that yeah Kirsten Dutz is in there with her weird teeth.

She's kind of weird looking. The United States, what did they say in the trailer, the United States of Florida? Yeah, Texas, Texas, California. Yeah, Texas and California has joined together. That's got to be an enemy of my enemy situation, right? Hey, man, think about how much resources those two states. I think that's what, I think.

I think that's what sold me because I want to see how that plays out. How did that alliance happen? And I'm glad they took it to a completely hypothetical instead of trying to use like shit that's going on right now. I know. Pissing off everybody involved, you know? Agreed.

Agreed. Actually, I could almost see Texas and California versus the rest of the country. Oh, and of course they got to bring Alaska in to be kind of like the country up here. fucking with everybody from above Oh, they probably let us go They probably let us go

We become an independent country or something I don't know, man You guys are close enough to Russia That you might be a formidable foe Unless Russia invades While we're too busy Fucking with everything else Or we get let go

We form an alliance with Canada And become a what do you call it a province yes Brian would have to start saying eh at the end of every sentence We're going to kill you with our hot in skinny I'm going full French Canadian Yeah

I'll sound like George St. Pierre I like it I love it I guess we We're going to leave off with We knew it was going to happen David Gordon Green exits

The Exorcist Deceiver and the sequel has been pulled from its release date. Sweet. There you go. So, there you go. Hypothetical question. If they continue to do the sequel,

who do you put in as director? Philip. Would you trust to turn it around? I don't want to text that one. I don't know, man. Everyone I can think of his dad. That I trust with it. Yeah, I was going to say.

I mean, you can go with one. I mean, James Wan is kind of the obvious choice, but that's not exactly his style of movie. A bunch of jump scares. Well, I mean, that would be easy for them to get because Blumhouse had a part in the first one. Oh, okay. He just has that partnership with them now.

So it would just be like, Jason Blum can go to James Wan's office and be like, you know, we need you to stop producing bullshit. and direct something. Although I kind of feel like you should get like a Stanley Kubrick type of person. He's like an old school guy, you know, who's not going to go, I'm going to try something with this. No, no, no, no.

Right. Don't do that. How about Arioster? No. There's going to be some kind of, bro. There's going to be some kind of relationship problem in there. some esoteric story I've

since we all loved it and it had to do with possession Damian Ruga from when Eva lurks Oh that was a badass movie man That's the best possession movie I've seen in a long time Hmm

Yeah I mean that's definitely as good to pick as any I can't think of anybody It would be more now You know And find someone like a good writer to kind of like have the movie connected to the David Gordon Green one

but at the same time kind of fix the problems. You don't want to wreck that? No, I mean, you've got to connect it. You can't just say it's not a part of it. It was a dream. It was a fever dream that

the girl had when she was possessed, right? Basically what they should have did in episode 8 of Star Wars. Or what they should Yeah, well, but they didn't Bring a different Demon into the mix or something You know

Like love? Yeah Some origin story for Asriel or something You know Okay Yeah, didn't Isn't there like seven of them

Or something like that? Legion Yeah, I guess so Oh, not a bad idea Hmm Yeah Something to chew on there, Brian. I like your idea for the director, for sure.

I mean, if there's many of them, maybe the new X's movies could be about people trying to defeat all of them. Oh, yeah. That would work. That'd be a lot to take on. Again, I don't think it ever should have been done in the first place. I mean, that's some big shoes to fill. At this point, the Dyes been cast, I guess, right?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was, maybe it was one of them situations when you own a property. If you don't do anything with it, you lose it. Oh, like Winnie the Pooh. Which I heard of the newest one that's going to, uh, that's going to be allowed to be used as Pinocchio. Yeah, well, I'm sure they have lots of things they can do with that growing nose. He's going to set a knife on the end of it. Kind of like that movie.

What was that? saw where he took the trombone and he had the knife. I think whoever does one, they're going to do something weird with the whole good boy. It's going to be a pedophile. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. Her, Penetio, my name's Michael.

Hey, hey, hey, look at my monkey. Why do you think I made your nose grow so big when you tell Fibb? Oh, probably won't. I'm kind of interested in this little bit of news. David Bruckner, we all love what we didn't love. We liked a lot. The Hellraiser remake, right? I did, yeah.

Yeah, I really liked it. That was done by David Bruckner, who also previously did the ritual, which was also really awesome. He's going to write and direct the remake to the blob. Huh. Okay. See, now that one makes more sense. Like, I feel like if, like, why even own the property of the exorcist?

I mean, you can make an exorcism movie without calling it the exorcist. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the blob makes a lot more sense, right? Because there's so much more you can do with it, right? Yeah. I'm okay with that, a new blob. I want to see a new attack of the killer to Mavis.

Yeah. well I'm I'm hoping uh toxic Avenger is as awesome as they've been saying it is and then we get more I don't I don't know I know it's done we got that little teaser there's some people that I've seen it and have said that it's violent and funny and disgusting

a lot of people A lot of people say Peter Dinklage works as the toxic Avenger. Kevin Bacon's awesome as the villain. How could he not be? But I haven't heard nothing since last year about it. I think it's hilarious that Peter Dinklage is the toxic. Like in my mind, that is fucking fun. Right.

Yeah, it's perfect. Maybe they're waiting for a... But I think you can pull it off. Maybe they're waiting for a Comic-Con rollout. since everything's basically back to normal. Everything's back to normal now. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I think we need to have a Medea Avenger, Brian. Well, I know who's going to be there opening night. Yes, you do. All right. With them with a purse. That's the news. Is that the news? Yeah, you got to say something.

yeah yeah yeah it's time it's time for the trailer boys and girls Brian is going to bring us the big the small and sometimes the very very weird as in the case tonight what's the first new trailer Brian geez land it's 399

episodes and you forget you a line yeah you know what can I say man I still read my shit every time okay from the People that brought us 47 meters down comes a new shark movie called No Way Up.

But is it a shark movie primarily? I mean, kind of hard to tell. I mean, there was a lot going on in this trailer. Looks like a pretty known, pretty much unknown cast, except for your boy. Call Meanie. Yeah. Yep, call Meanie. I could already see he's going to be the asshole on the planet.

every time every fucking time the poor irishman i feel like he's gonna be he's gonna be like he's gonna be like he's gonna be that guy from train to buson okay that was organizing his little group of people yes for sure but um it doesn't look bad it looks kind of fun i like the situation you know they crashed they're they're kind of hung on a little what a reef a cliff or something and they got that little air pocket in there and the plane slowly sinking or about to drop off the edge

and of course you got sharks trying to enter the whole of the plane. Of course. Of course because why not? Yeah, just good brainless fun, right? Yeah, the little bit we got to see of the shark. The shark didn't look too bad. No, not at all.

Richard Attenborough's grandson is in this movie. What? yeah oh yeah so they're gonna have dinosaurs will attenborough wow okay okay oh uh the t 2000 or whatever is that him no that's somebody else sorry never mind yeah it does kind of look like him a little bit no i wasn't looking i wasn't looking at the name i was just looking at the picture

this movie needs honored yeah it's at least a different take on a shark movie and timely you know with the side of the plane Alaska Airlines they're like oh shit we can't put this trailer out I don't think I've ever flown on one

and now you never will well they started inspecting a bunch of planes through like all the airlines and turns out they're all fucked up but shocker Yeah, it's all messed up up here.

Now there's buildings because of the snowfall, the roofs have been collapsing. And I guess they've been finding out a lot of buildings. We're never up to code under construction. Why does it scrow? You never know it until you need it, right? I wonder where that money went. Good point. Look at all this snow.

pure unadulterated snow I won't say anything about our mayor but when we had our snowstorm last year a lot of the plows weren't able to be used because there wasn't enough of them and the ones some of them weren't up to maintenance it was like 31 degrees

in drizzly here and our power was out all fucking night. Oh, I know. I know. 31 degrees. Yeah. Throwing on my shorts and slides. It may have dropped

into the 20s overnight, but yeah, that's, it froze for a day and a half. I'm going outside house shoes. Check my mail. Brian's wearing his wife feeder.

I got double-layered hoodies going All right I guess we got off track of No way up but we all seem like we're all interested in it It looks like a fun enough movie I think so This one Fun week with trailers this week Brian

This one I Could see probably giving Getting a limited theater release And wide release on VOD Yeah, February 16th. Okay. And our final trailer was a mystery for all of last year.

The new Radio Silence movie, Untitled Universal Monster Movie. Mm-hmm. Oh. It went untitled until the trailer dropped, and it's called Abigail. Okay. And if people don't know, who radio silence is they did Ready or Not in the last two screen

movies. And I see a lot of Ready or Not in this trailer. A lot. Yeah. So I'm going to go through this cast list. We got Catherine Newton. She's Ant Man's daughter in the last Ant Man movie, and she was in that movie Freaky. She's good.

I like her. Dan Stevens. We all know Dan Stevens. Oh, yeah. Always awesome. Kevin Duran. Not Kevin Duran. Oh, yes. I fucking love that guy. someone that I'm happy that they didn't drop her from the movie with all the controversy Melissa Barrer from screen movies yep

Gene Carlo Esposito oh yes Gus Spring himself and Angus Cloud Rest in Peace one of his final movies Angus Cloud Young actor from Euphoria that passed away Oh, okay, okay, I do remember that

I do remember that, okay I believe this and I can't remember the other one The other one has to do with him Robbing a liquor store And someone just happens to have like a winning lottery ticket It looked actually good I think this... Another good idea

I think this one and the other one The last two movies he filmed before he passed Hmm And a young girl playing to Abigail's Alicia Weir So this is a universal Monster movie? That's what they It was

untitled universal Monster movie I don't think Universal like I don't think Monster like Universal Monster I'm not part of it It just happened to be a universal

Oh Okay okay So Dracula's not going to make an appearance I mean Maybe his granddaughter Maybe Maybe but I agree with you Lance

I see radio silence their fingerprints all over this with the style and the comedy that's in there and the ensemble cast right yeah the great ensemble cast

I would love for Samarra weaving to be in here somewhere never never never never I mean she could have a cameo she could be the little girls like mom or something uncredited cameo pops up at the end maybe her familiar but I mean it's an interesting premise

how these uh I guess from the synopsis they said it's a group of criminals try to kidnap underworld bosses ballerina daughter and hold her for ransom and they end up just getting locked in his mansion because they're kidnap the

mess with the wrong kid turns out to be a vampire looks pretty cool yeah I like it I mean yeah comedy works in these movies

if it's well-timed and it looks like it is yeah yeah and I didn't expect it wasn't even listed as a red band trailer but there was a lot of

f bombs dropped in this trailer yeah a lot of a lot of body parts too you think Dan Stevens is going to play the straight guy with the comedy oh maybe could be he didn't have his

British accent right he was using like an American accent I think we'll talk about British accents later okay is that what that was it was those many accents

from one actor yeah I I'm in, dude. I'll be their own opening day, for sure. This looks a lot of fun. Yeah. I bet you it's going to make some top ten list. I'm liking what this movie looks like.

I'm thinking of putting us on a schedule, I'm pairing it with Let the Right One in. Oh, wow. Okay. So, a little look behind the curtain in our schedule. That makes sure, it was. April. 19th.

Nice. This one, of course, will be wide release in theaters. Of course, yeah. Probably be a big hip. All right. That's it. I guess that's my cue. Let's see what we've got here. Listener

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ones that will make your blood boil and curl. Whether the movie is so unwatchable or so loved, I will give my honest opinion and review on the film with clips of the movie mixed in to help tell the story. This isn't your standard film review pod. Let me engross you in the story of the film and make you feel that you're watching the movie alongside me. I may get really animated during the process, so if you're looking for a B-movie version of the film review podcast, look no further than the terrible, terrible.

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I'm in. With that description, I've got to give it a shot. And regarding swim fan, Ariel Wellman says roommate is good too. Who's a roommate? Did a movie?

Room man. Sounds familiar. Oh, they recently, terrible terror, they recently covered elves. Remember that one, guys? Oh, and it's a wonderful knife. I've got to hear what they have to say about that. Elves with, what's the guy, Grizzly Adams? Yes, Grizzly Adams.

Dan, Dan Hart, or, no, I can't, Dan Stevens? No, we just talked about Dan Stevens. Dan something, Brian. I can't think he was named. Dan Haggerty. Everybody's yelling at me. That's it, Dan Haggerty. That movie was wild.

I had, like, Nazi elves in it. Yes, I'm adding that episode right now. Okay, boom, following. Regarding Mia Gough, Jerry Ebertz says, I did not care much for the sequel, but I liked her story as a young psycho. She's in a little bit of trouble right now. What happened?

She allegedly, I'm saying allegedly, don't sue us. We don't make enough in Patreon. No, nobody can sue us. She kicked one of the background actors, and then when he said something, she allegedly went into this whole, do you know who I am? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And so she's being sued right now. sued for saying that

I mean, come on Ferd. Well, can't kick people. Yeah. And a lot of there, I guess somebody was trying to say maybe she was in character and is

doing the method acting thing, but you still can't still can't kick people. Yeah, not recommended. You can't go all child Shia LeBoff. I know that's her husband. Yes. Is it?

Is it? Oh, no. Now it makes too much sense. Now it makes way too much sense. Oh, boy. Those two crazies deserve each other. They have a kid together. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. A strange-looking child, huh? They met on that,

what's that movie that Lars Van Truer movie? Nymphomaniac. oh i got you they met on that said oh man that is my least favorite director i honestly can't say i can't say

i can tell you one movie i liked it is bad bad stuff very depressing man if you want to slit your wrist philip go watch go do a large venture marathon take a bunch of xanax or something yeah you don't you don't you don't

good thanks feel good after watching that of his movies. He felt quite quite dirty. Quite depressed. Even the one Melancholia, which had a great cast, and that made me want to fucking blow my brains out after I saw it. I'm like, great.

So this is what life's all about. Okay, great. Thank you. I don't even know if we did an interview with him. I would just ask one question and just be like, what's wrong with you? you like some therapy or something dude I kind of want to ask

Ari asked her the same question what's wrong with you right yeah put those two in a room together mid Samar was based off of a breakup he had I just want to what's what's wrong with you yeah no kidding and we got Marcus Will Turner he posted the trailer for Abigail thank you a bunch of kidnappers

soon discovered that children can be just as monstrous in the trailer for the next horror yarn. That's comedy, right? I don't know. Or is that a tale? I don't know, but this is going to be the next, this movie's going to be a hit, guys. I can tell right now.

There's a lot of people, this is viral. A lot of people are sharing this info, so give me a big hit, man. I think I guarantee you tomorrow weaving's going to show up. I promise you guys. When it happens, you're both going to yell at it. We're going to all be

in the theater and we're concurrently going to go, yes! Everybody's going to wonder what the fuck we're yelling about, but we will know, won't we? There you go. And regarding Bede and Steve versus Camp Crystal Lake,

Zem Vader said, fantastic. Al Ramsaer says this TED series on Peacock is hilarious. shit's ridiculous. I've been wanting to see that. I didn't know if that's out. I just saw trailers for it.

I thought they were making a new movie or something. I'm not buying as the kid's supposed to be Mark Wahlberg. This kid grows up to be Mark Wahlberg. Okay. Does Tom Brady show up? Like a younger Tom Brady maybe? Let's see.

And regarding the horror countdown on podcast. Don and Ellie says hello and welcome to a new episode on today's show. I'm joined by writer Tom Jolief to look at our favorite unsettling genre films. Dive in and enjoy. Very nice. Unsettling films. Don does so much for the horror community, but of everything that Don has done, the main thing Philip was to turn me and you on to rock and roll nightmare. Yeah, he's the one that introduced us to the movie. Cameron Sullivan posted.

Cam Sully is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Oh, is that... All right, well, let's go ahead. Topic is Twilight Zone special. January 18th, 2024. I'm not sure I'm supposed to be reading this. 8 p.m. Central time. We'll have to find out if this is a regular chat group open to the public and let everyone know.

Well, we did. uh uh... our M source says Fargo season 5 watch it I have now watched season 4

or finish season 3 and watch any of it first two seasons are good yeah I need check it out I heard it did kind of fall off a little bit though yeah I think the third season

where I dropped off I think uh what's his name Obi-1 Kenobi Ewan McGregor. I think he plays like twins. Oh, okay. And it just kind of got boring from what I remember.

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And we'll get to more feedback next week. But let's see. Oh, that was from last week, so I'll skip that. We'll move on to our featured attractions. How about that? We're going to start with the oldie.

Rock and roll nightmare from 1987. you can find it on YouTube at the moment for free otherwise good luck at a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere a hopeful hair metal band seeking inspiration to record their upcoming

new LP will soon find themselves in a furious confrontation against the Prince of Darkness himself director is John Fisano also known for black roses don't know what that is Oh, you haven't seen Black Roses?

Didn't we see that one too, Phillip? Did we? That's another Rock and Roll horror movie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know I've seen it. Okay, I did see that one.

I forgot about that movie. Uh, writer is John Mikul, Mikkel, Thor? He pronounces it Michael. Michael? He just spells it.

Okay. M-I-K-L. Whatever. He wants you to think he's from Denmark, but he's really from Jersey. Great. He's as dumb as he looks. Who as a bodybuilder is the first Canadian, oh, well. Oh, okay. To win both the Mr. Canada and the Mr. USA titles.

Oh, really? Wow. And the Mr. Alaska, right? I didn't know that. I knew a guy that won Mr. Alaska. Oh, yeah? He's got John Michael Thor B. Uh-oh.

Well, this was the 80s. Didn't have quite as good as steroids back then, did they? Yeah, I think Arnold was only like 220 pounds or something. There's a lot of guys in the UFC that could put in to Shane. Really? Oh, yeah. But 220 pounds of pure minds. Ah, sir.

Yeah. The film came in 10 minutes short of its required running time, so director John Fassano and star John Michael, Thor, filmed sequences of John Triton driving the band in the van to the farm. Yes, I figured that might have been the case. Hence the prolonged opening shots of the van driving to the farm. That's classic bad movie filming right there. see a bad so good it's bad movie where there's a lot of driving and especially in the opening

credits because they're trying to get that 90 minute time oh boy uh the bulk of the cast was paid a hundred dollars each to act in this movie and they were overpaid there you have it brian was this the first time watched for you or did you watch it with us i i was not on the review with you, but I've seen this movie many times. Oh, okay. Many times, he says. This is classic,

so bad it's good. Yeah. This is from what I understand is the specific so bad it's good genre called the Vanity Project where you have someone that neither stars,

writes, directs, produce. John Michael Thor. Yeah, John Michael Thor Thor kind of hits all those except for directing which I kind of felt like maybe just the way he comes off in the movie and he wrote the movie to make him look so like he's so awesome.

I felt like he might have co-directed this movie, or at least co-directed that shower scene because there was a lot of angles on him. Yeah. We got better view of his tits than hers. They might have been bigger.

This movie is ridiculous. from start to end. There is a little bit of a lull in the middle when you get a little, because I don't care about any of the relationship stuff. And when you get to the end, it doesn't even matter because none of it actually even happens.

Lord did it, because he didn't visit their gravesites. But I have, okay, I'm gonna just jump to the end where he reveals that Bielzebo. He lured him

out of wherever to come after him with all the people that wasn't really there so he was he was taking souls of people that didn't exist and he didn't know sure why not which leads to some of the wackiest practical effects the jellyfish star ninja stars or whatever that was being thrown at him yeah yeah yeah And I love to Completely off the rails at the end. Does it? It's like a, to me it's like a regular

kind of rock and roll horror movie. Right. Like 90% of the way. And then when you get to the last 15 minutes, it just all of a sudden he's revealed to be the archangel intercessor and he's fooled the demon coming out to fight him and then they have a hand-holding fight

for like five minutes. And he's a little, puppet demons that are like flying through the air because that one with the little smoking cigarettes the one with the demon that jumps at him that scene is so ridiculously filmed

because he's John Michael Thor is sitting there writing music and somehow the pen flies out of his hand which you can clearly see he just throws the pen and goes to pick it out and then you know someone's just throwing this puppet across the room

that's kind of what makes it great but if you're into these like cheesy bad effects bad acting glam hair metal John Michael Thor trying to show us how awesome he is especially at the end and his studded cod piece he's wearing

I tease the hair up a little extra Oh, he A little. He used all of the budget for that. For Aquinette. Yes.

And, you know, you get a little bit of nudity in there, especially from John Michael Thor, because like I said, yeah, more from him than the women. Movies all about how awesome he is.

But I will say, the whole movie is. It's just like boobs and hair metal but isn't babes every time but she takes her shirt off she puts her hands here

you know and he's like glorious like this he I will say I mean he's he's better built than I am but there are times where you can tell

he's sucking in his gut when he's flexing yeah but yeah this is this is top five so bad it's good movies this is this is one

if this is one of those movies where you get with a group of friends and you guys want to watch a movie and laugh and have some drinks. You throw on rock and roll nightmare. Yeah, that makes sense. What? I have a question about that last scene

though. Like... You only have one question. Well, yeah, but okay, so after the chaos ends, it just sort of pans through a neighborhood. It had nothing to do with the movie whatsoever.

Like in the Milwaukee or something. It's called bad filmmaking. It's like, what the hell is that? Am I supposed to know what that means? Brian, I feel a March madness coming on here. Best so bad it's good thing, right? That'll be a miserable show. That would be my favorite episode of the year.

It would be fun, though. Maybe Heather has something like that in mind. Let's see. on Wikipedia as the movie comes to a close it shows a suburban home in a seemingly normal neighborhood as foreboding music begins to play implying that the home is also

demon-ridden. So I guess the home had demons in it. That seems like a weird left turn. Okay. Lance, what did you think about it? I don't have too much to say other than what Brian did. I mean, that was

that was perfect, man. You summed it all up. I mean, I've got, I don't know exactly why the Australian guy didn't have the Australian accent halfway through the movie. Remember that one line where he said, I feel like a whole new man?

And he's like, was there a reason for that? And that was the drummer. Was there some kind of an inside joke? I felt like, after listening that's a drummer, is that an inside joke or something? I felt like before the director said action.

Okay. he said if anybody has any ad lives or improvised lines and then somebody was like I can do an Australian accent and he was like yes go with that it was a terrible Australian accent and then after he did it he was like

don't do that anymore but yeah I'm gonna go with what Phil just said he told don't do that no more and the guy was like are we gonna are we gonna redo the take he was like no we don't have enough money to fulfill so we're gonna keep it

okay fair enough i'll buy i'll buy i'll buy that man i you talk about the most you know rubber puppets like they didn't even have to be flexibility in them they were just like you know this right like like just a like like a a eyeball on a piece of flesh yeah what's up with that man they didn't even move it was just like a like they were throwing a rubber chicken at you or something and the gummy starfish yeah i was about to say they used all the loo they're could find for the jelly starfish. And then at the end, after the shower scene, he starts calling her red.

And earlier in the movie, he never called her red. And then he turns up and he says, hey, red. You know, and she's like, turns into a demon in front of him. And he just laughs. It just, ha, ha, ha. Oh, red. Or should I say bub or bells above or whatever? And it's like, this guy's so fucking cocky, you know?

It's like, Jesus Christ, man. it's like why why even have God or anybody above you if you're that powerful, you know? He's so confident and so cocky. And so just like he gets said.

What was the more nudity in the last what, 10 minutes of the movie than the whole rest of the movie? I swear every time every time a woman took her top off she would like pull it off and you could barely see the tits and then she would do this or do this, you know?

Because they really get paid a hundred bucks. Ah, okay, fair enough. I guess you get what you paid for, but, you know, yeah, really, really, really bad movie. I guess like you said, Brian, this would be definitely on the list of so bad it's good, but we're still talking about it, Philip, you know? We're still talking about it. Oh, yeah, this one falls well into my so bad it's good category. I had a great time at this movie, and I was worried that,

I wasn't going to like it as much on the rewatch. Yeah. But I did. It was still pretty awesome. I mean, there's definitely some downtime. But most of the downtime is filled with, you know, mediocre hair metal music. Oh, yeah.

It's not terrible. Yeah, it's not terrible. I don't know that one song jams. What was it? Energy or whatever was. Oh, yeah. Energy. Energy.

it's it's pretty i mean it sounds like docking you know look i could let me put it to you this way guys i could definitely see naz and and stephen lowblad like just fucking rocking to this like at a concert right and uh what wasn't what wasn't rock and roll was either um boobs or uh some or really teem little mouths yeah Was that tubular bells playing Brian or was that just them trying to sound like tubular bells?

These bad low-budget movies tend to try to rip something off and kind of sneak them in there sometimes. So it could have been. Did you notice when somebody was taking a nap halfway through the movie, the guitar riff was like, Dada, Nats! Did y'all catch that?

And do you? do you guys think they were sponsored by Coca-Cola or we're trying to get sponsored by Coca-Cola? There's no way a bodybuilder would put that fucking pure sugar into his body would he? I mean, come on. Yeah, it was 80s, baby.

Brian, did you notice he turned the can? And what are you can see Coca-Cola real clearly? We've got to make some money off this thing. Wasn't as bad as Wayne's world. We spent all our film. We spent all our film riding around our fucking band.

But yeah, and yeah, what's not filled with rock and roll and boobs is like, I don't want to say bad special effects, because I really enjoyed it, but it was like a really creepy episode of Frankl Rock. I mean, you got to appreciate because they obviously

had next to no money to make this movie. So they did what they could. They made a movie. Yeah. With a little help from Coca-Cola. And lots of Coke. They made a movie that after all this time, what would you say, Lance almost, what, 40 years or something?

Sure, sure. People are, we're still talking about it. We're still talking about it. Yep. That is true. Like the little chicken demon in the refrigerator that had nothing to do with anything? Oh, that's right. But it was just a straight-up handpub.

puppet. But yeah, man, no, I had a pretty good time with this movie, man. I think we all did. Yeah, that last scene that goes totally haywire. And by the time they start throwing those terrible little starfish octopus things at him. Oh, my gosh, there is a sequel. Oh, my God. No, there's not, Brian, stop it.

According to Wikipedia in 2005, a sequel called Intercessor, another rock and roll nightmare featuring John Michael Thor was made. Oh, why have we not seen this movie? Why have we not seen this? Okay, hold on. But yeah, by the time those starfish come into play, they're so bad that it's just funny. Like, what is even happening right now? And then that last scene doesn't make any sense at all with the,

neighborhood. I, you know, I bet you when he sat down and came up with the concept of this thing, he was like, this is going to be like Tommy. Okay, there is, there is a movie from 2015 called I Am Thor, but it's a documentary. I don't see the... I found it. It's on YouTube. Oh, did you? It's on YouTube. Oh, that, when are we going to cover it? I'm going to put this in the in the, in the, in the back pocket this might have to okay commentary oh I was hoping you to say that let me get shown on the phone right now

what are we going to do it I got to check the schedule we're all right no we're got to get out you got to get out Al Ramseer are you listening I know you are because you listen to every episode if and whoever comes on the

whoever whoever comes on the commentary you have to watch this one first yeah think that's a rule. Even though there's a good chance that the second one probably has nothing to do with the first one. And that's okay. As long as Thor's there. John Michael.

He's 71 years old. Holy crap. Wow. It looks good. Oh, wait. This movie's made it 87. Never mind. Yeah.

All right. scores Brian what do you think I'm gonna give you two scores okay so bad it's good this movie is a 10 out of 10 this hits all the right boxes

like when they say so bad it's good they're talking about this movie yes okay if you made a book that listed so bad it's good movies this would be one of the movies on the cover yeah as an actual film

like I said they work with what they had with the budget they had like Lance you put in the trivia he only had $100 to pay the the cast and I appreciate well after after cocaine expenses

yeah that was what was left obviously and you know they they did what they could with the practical effects I do appreciate you know puppets you know I grew up in a time like Phil brought up you know Fragal Rock and the dark

crystal and you know oh yeah labyrinth you know cool shit like that not saying this is what we got and David Bowie's codpiece matched the codpiece in this movie they were kind of bad labyrinth Buckins, bookin cod pieces so I do appreciate it

so I'm going to be generous and give it a four out of ten nice nice okay Lance what do you think I'm going to give this movie two scores as is so bad it's good maybe it's a ten on 10. As a movie it's a one on 10. Let's call a

spade of spade guys. Come on. They took all the money they were given to make this movie. They snorted it up their noses and gave themselves shots in the butt of steroids and called the day. So I got to go one on 10.

I think that those are both really fair scores because I almost want to say 10 on 10. But then again, I mean, It's a I still enjoyed the movie For what it was

It's so, It is so bad that it's good But it was really entertaining and enjoyable And I'm gonna give it a Self aware, self-aware then, huh? Yeah, I'm gonna give it a real score of an eight Okay, fair enough I mean, we know where you're coming from

So we're not gonna shit all over you This is a movie I would recommend to somebody Okay, we're not gonna destroy you The way you guys all destroyed me when I gave night swim a six. How about that? That should have never happened. Hey, it might still be my favorite movie of the year. We're going to find out in a few minutes.

I doubt you remember that movie when February comes. Which movie again? We're going to go on with night swim. Oh, yeah. Which, I'm beyond the lookout for the latest episode of E-Society. go check out brother Nez and Theo they're doing all their best of

2023 episodes but I'm interested when he starts talking about movies he's seen in 2024 because he has seen night swim so I'm interested to hear what he has to say can't wait can't wait because he asked me should he go watch it and I told him

don't waste his time and he watched it anyway so I'm interested to hear that view Nez gonna be Nas Brian Nez gonna be Nez If it's in the theater, he's going to watch it. Can't ever tell with Nez either. Sometimes he likes weird stuff. True.

Let's see. Our next one is destroy all neighbors. 24. Good pairing. Let me show you how that's done, really? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Back to me.

Calm down. Let me show you how you break a burden on a man's head. You go like this. Oh. Really? Oh, yes. Oh, I'm so sorry. Please don't cut me off with the music. Struggling pop frog rock musician William Brown

finds himself in a living nightmare when he accidentally kills Vlad, the neighbor from hell. Director is Josh Forbes, known for tons of music videos. Writers are Mike Benner, Jared Logan, and Charles A. Piper. there's a total of 16 credited cast members in this film so okay also not a big budget one you know yeah

man that that description gave way too much away we do our spoiler alert well i mean it says he kills his neighbor we don't know that until we're well into the movie but yeah i don't i don't think i remember seeing that in the trailer well oh well you knew some shit had this one No sideways at some point. Sure.

So Lance, you're a resident Prague rock guy. You want to take this one first? Man, this movie could have been so much more. See, that's what I was looking for. They did a couple of Prague references, but I don't know. This was not quite what I was hoping it would be. When you guys said Prague Rock,

I'm like, yes. You know, not everybody will get it, but those who need to get it will get it. and then you got Alex Winter in it for fuck's sake from Bill and Ted? I mean, really? This dude is a master filmmaker. He did an amazing documentary on Frank Zappa.

He's done several great films. This guy's really good at documentary filmmaking. You see him pop up. I knew immediately. I'd forgotten he was in it. But once I saw the credits, I'm like, okay, this reminds me so much of freak. which of course Alex Winter directed and I'm like okay cool

I love where this is going and please whoever has the rights to that put that on Blue Ray oh Michael Felscher is listening to you right now Brian guarantee you there's a steel look in the works Alex Winter was Vlad I had no idea and he was the lawyer

the court appointed lawyer so I enjoyed it I just didn't love it and I think that the bar for me, because I am such a prog rock fan, was going to be a lot higher than for you two guys. So I want to hear what you guys think about it,

but I'd say I liked it, I didn't love it. I don't want to give too much away. Okay. Brian, what do you think? I'm kind of right there with Lance. I liked it. I really wanted to love it. I wanted this to be on a Psycho-Gorman type

level. Yeah. I can see that. if you mix Prague rock and cycle Gorman together that's what I wanted from Destroy All Neighbors I did have fun with it some of the time but there was a lot of times where the comedy was

not working for me at all I got you I did like the lead guy Jonah Ray I've seen him in a few things he was pretty believable in that role and what's he been in a lot of indie comedies and TV shows

and stuff like that Oh, he was a mystery science theater 3,000 guys. Was it? Okay. All right. Yeah, see, that's a lot of fun when you're stoned to sit back and watch that, watch and watch and make fun of movies. Yeah, and I enjoyed all the cameos.

The maintenance lady was Randy Heller. That's Daniel LaRousseau's mom and the karate kid. Oh. Ah, all right. There you go. What was his name? Thomas Lennon from Reno 911. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Studio guy. The studio guy. Like you brought up, Lance, Alex Winter, and, uh, oh, I guess we can just get into, no, I won't spoil it, but we got, we got, we got him. Yeah, great cast. You had the, you had the smelting plant guy. I liked Vlad.

He was my favorite character in the movie. Yeah, you, you can, you can tell Alex Winter had fun playing that role. Come at me, bro. He's okay, I just pulled it back. Is there some kind of... Are they rivals, Prog Rock, and EDM? Not really. I mean, they're both just kind of considered, like, not mainstream,

so I can kind of see how that would be a good, like, you know, inside joke type thing. But, I mean, you've got certain bands, well, you got certain bands, like Radiohead that sort of mash the two. styles together. So it's not like they're totally apart or rivals. It's not like Star Wars versus Star Trek or something like that. It's more like, you know, two different parts that are like not mainstream,

I guess you would say. Okay. So I can understand the joke. Was there any like some, you said there wasn't too many Prog Rock references? There was no like deep cuts that you would have to really want. They talked about Phil Collins at the end, who everybody

knows. You know, I thought for sure that the dude that was doing like the self-help tapes, I guess he's just like a comedian or something, but I thought for sure, I said, oh, that's got to be somebody from like Spock's beard or the pineapple thief or one of these really, really obscure

neo-prog bands, but it wasn't. It was just a comedian. So they didn't throw enough bones to prog bands. Was that band that he was talking about, a real band? No. Not at all. I'd never heard of. Totally made up, man. Okay, one more.

Totally made. I know we're asking you a lot of prog rock questions, but one more. The name of his album. Yes. Was that something you would hear a prog rock album called? Kind of. Yeah, because they're really, yeah, because what they do is they, you know, they take, like, you know, high-end concepts, and they try to make, like, the entire album one concept.

We're like each one, it's like chapters or in a novel or something like that. that, you know, versus like pop music where it's like, you know, a piece of bubble gum and then another piece of bubble gum out of the pack and then another piece. Everything meshes together. So, yeah, that was kind of clever, the album title and all that. And I will admit toward the end when they were jamming there, it did sound kind of proggy a few times, but, you know. That's true.

Yeah, I like that scene. My bar was here. You know, this maybe kind of got to give, you know? Yeah, a lot of the practical effects were, we're, were pretty good. Yeah, a lot of, that freak, right? And psychogorman and, you know,

a lot of that kind of thing. I will say the whole aspect of, is that spoilery? I'll wait on that one. But, yeah, I feel like I'm about to get into spoilers. So, yeah, I'm right there. I think,

I think I like it maybe a little more than you guys did. is it Psycho Gorman? No. But is it going to sneak into the top 10 list? Maybe. Oh, a little studio 666 here maybe, huh? Maybe. Okay.

It did have a little bit of vibe to that, right? I thought it was quirky enough and funny enough to make it worth it. But yeah, you're right. Some of the comedy maybe wasn't quite there as much as I would have liked it to be. uh like and i didn't like that black character when he first showed up it was kind of obnoxious but then he grew on me as the movie went i loved him from the beginning man especially when he was having camomile tea with his girlfriend and the cop showed up oh good day officers

it's it's a weird fucking movie man i'm not entirely sure what it means or if it means anything but I do wish I I don't have been I do wish that I hadn't been like watching it during my lunch break at work so I was kind of afraid to have an edible because that definitely would have

enhanced the movie. Yeah it's it's weird enough to be original yeah I'll take that scores Lance what do you think oh guess what guys night swim is no longer my favorite film of the year six and a half

Two-thirds good. Brian? I like the creativity of it. I like that they're using Prague rock and another genre that's been used a million times over. Like heavy metal? Yeah. I like the cast was pretty funny.

Not all the comedy hit with me all the time. There's some things I want to get into in spoilers, but I definitely like this way better. the night swim. So I'm going to give this a 7 out of 10. Nice. Nice. Yeah, that sounds pretty money, man. It's definitely way better than night swim.

I'm going to go 7.5, I think. All right. And we'll see. I kind of want to watch it again. It was an interesting movie. I kind of do too. I kind of do too. All right.

Spoilers. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Now we can get into what actually happens because we didn't talk about shit. Squelching.

Okay, I don't necessarily know if I liked the whole, was it really happening aspect? Yes. And when, because it got confusing because at some points it felt like, maybe him killing people wasn't really happening or nobody cared that it was happening and they were just kind of overlooking it other than the only person that ever reacted to to him being a murderer was the girlfriend yeah because she she came in and saw a body right yeah yeah yeah and then the body was gone when the cops got there because the pigs ate it yeah yeah oh yeah that was a

pretty cool twist. Even when they went to the studio and all the dead people showed up nobody had I don't know if that was the comedy they were trying to go for to where nobody was just

dead ghoul zombies just kind of standing there. Just another day in the studio, huh? Well yeah and at the end they started like interacting with other people which made me think that it was really happening. Yeah but in the beginning they weren't.

Right. So what changed? Hmm. Was it the power of Prague? He had to fully immerse himself in his fantasy world to truly make a great album. Oh, I love it.

I love it. Yeah, because I kind of had that question the whole time was like, of is it really happening? Is he actually even killing people? Yeah. you know and then at the end of it when the thing started

interacting with people and it got all nuts at the yeah where I really where I really questioned it was the whole sequence where his inner self was it his inner self or no the the YouTube video was talking to him

about how to dispose of Blad's body and he kept walking kept walking to the store and I'm just like I'm like, guy, you got blood all over you. Yeah. And you just went to the store like five times. And you're talking to a YouTube video. Yeah, I'm just like...

Which was recorded way before they had YouTube apparently, right? Yeah, no kidding. Because the guy's like 80 years older. Yeah, I'm like, who's uploading this? It was a, it was a prog-rock self-help tape that he made way back. in the 70s. And I like that everybody got names to where you can remember who they were. Yeah.

Like pig guy. Yeah. Crazy croissant homeless man. They always wanted his croissants. And then you find out he only gave him one croissant like a month ago. He's always like hanging out with that homeless guy, though. Like, damn, that's a lot of interaction. Yeah.

but yeah that's where i think maybe the disconnect for me is i wasn't sure if that was the comedy they were going for to where like everything's just kind of normal and yeah and what and then uh the the makeup on the guy who got hit with the truck oh they just added something to his face yeah i thought that was weird yeah because it didn't look like You would think if he got ran over by the tire, it would be an indent in his face. Yeah. Not something sticking up out. Yeah, I was like it's even with his nose.

Did they mean to do it like that? I did like Vlad's makeup, though. I thought it was weird. I kept wondering why would you do the makeup like this just because? Was he a demon? I guess so at the end. Who's that? Was Vlad always a demon?

Or was he just, he just looked like a weird looking guy. Dude, a lot of this movie, frankly, just doesn't make any sense. It was just like people getting high and making a movie because they could. I mean, right, at the end of the day? I thought, and I thought it was hilarious, Danielson's mom from Karate Kid, the maintenance lady, or the building manager. I like how she, the puppetry on the skeleton at the day. Yeah.

see I I enjoyed the special effects because they were practical it was different from a lot of movies right now and I mean you know they weren't like super duper high end but uh they were just schlocky enough to be funny sloppy very mystery science theater 3,000 if you will right? Yeah I like them finishing the song at the end I like the effects

yeah A little psychedelic. Yeah, and that's where I turned into like a true demon, right? Yeah. Which was weird. But not an evil demon, right? I mean, more of a. Yeah, because he was challenging, what's his name, William,

Willie or whatever his name was, he was challenging to fight him. You don't mind if I call you Willie, do you? There was a lot of like, oh, man, what's that band Jack Black does? Tenacious D. A lot of tenacious D here, right? I challenge you to fall before the power of the frog. But instead of metal, it was Prague, right? That's a great movie.

He was from a town called Kickapoo. Tenacious D, I love that movie. The Pick of Destiny, is that the one? Yeah, Jack Black and Kyle Gas. And so this was a little. bit like this, but less of an adventure and more of a mind fuck. Yeah.

But with... I can see that. Fun. Zombie puppets. Yeah. And better puppets than the... Go ahead. No, better puppets than the one,

than the ones in a rock and roll nightmare. Oh, yeah. These actually moved a little bit. Rock and Roll nightmare, they were just like... Like a literal piece of rubber. Like a Like a dildo on a stick.

Like somebody put a dildo and put a face on it, put it on a stick. I bet it was. They just stuck a googly eye and a little tough way around top. That's what I'm thinking, yeah. That's what I'm thinking. I like the Willie got his specially made tiny earbuds for his tiny ear holes. Oh, yes, his small ear canals. And what did they call that one guitar again?

like they had a special name for it oh was that the lady kept trying to tell him she had something that will help him with his album like a mega car or something if only he'd listen and she died with that t-shirt on she was a and the cop said she must have been a huge Prague fan

the cop knew who it was but yeah man I liked it for what it was it was no tenacious thing Best movie the year so far Best movie the year so far Yeah, that's true I only got two to go on

And it's winning the race We all agree on that Yeah it's been a slow January I would expect a more Stuff dumped I want to know something guys How do

How do Heather and Scott And some of these other Podcasters You know How do they find all these movies to watch. I mean, granted, I know a lot of them are like on Tubi, like TV original horror

and shit like that, but is there a website that tells you where all the new horror, shitty new horror movies are streaming? So we can at least get more under our belt by the time we can do our top and bottom 10 at the end of the year? Upcoming horror is pretty decent at

telling you release dates. Upcoming horror, okay. Upcominghorror.com. All right. I just want to know how do they keep up that consistent pace because I have my moments where I'll come on here and cool the week and I got

like seven movies to talk about but then the next week I'll have like one I love watching movies but I got kids and shit now yeah true that has a lot to do with it all right I think that's enough

for this week right? Because we get next week to look forward to. Yeah we're going back to the 90s All right, going to go back in time. So we want to thank all of you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. We'd love for you to join us on the show. So consider becoming a Patreon patron, even for a buck.

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