The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #400: The Year In Horror 1991, Part 1 - Body Parts & Sometimes They Come Back
Episode Date: January 25, 2024This week, we go back to 1991 for a few early 90's horror classics. Cool of the week includes American Nightmare and Coming Home in the Dark. Trailer is Out of Darkness and Spaceman. The podcast spotl...ight shines on No Bodies. And we get feedback from The Mac-Nez podcast, Horror Nerds at Church, and Bede Jermyn. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome.
You have found the place where the horror returns.
Listeners beware.
This podcast contains major plot spoilers.
and the foulest of language.
Join us
in celebrating the old and the new,
the best, and the worst in horror.
On two, the horror returns.
I'm Lance.
With me as always.
Co-hosts, Philip.
Brian.
How's it going, guys?
Freezing.
Freezing.
What do you talk about?
It's 85 degrees here today, dude.
Well, maybe there, but...
Oh, it warmed up today.
It's four degrees.
You got it.
All right.
So what this is telling me, Brian, is...
Looking positive.
Brian, you got to come visit, man.
When are you going to come visit?
Hopefully, as soon as possible.
There's some new additions to Texas Frigmare.
Oh, yeah.
Who do we have, man?
who's who's put their hat in the ring so to speak.
Neff Campbell.
Because, you know.
Okay.
She's not getting paid to be in screen movies as now.
So she's got some time and, uh...
Got a little time to kill.
Jason Patrick from the Lost Boys.
Okay.
He's got a lot of stuff, right?
Like a lot of sci-fi, BB sci-fi movies and stuff like that.
Yeah, I think my favorite movie of him outside of Lost Boys.
You ever see that movie Sleepers?
absolutely that's kind of that's a depressing one isn't it yeah but it's a good story and great cast
might be somebody might be somebody worth meeting after i well if i don't get kicked out after i meet
with uh after you attack eli yeah i almost said Elon uh oh
been watching too many SpaceX launches out here i guess you know pull up in his cyber truck and get
that apparently the new one the new ones are not only bulletproof but they're also arrowproof just in just in case for some reason
oh that's great in case they go by in case uh in case they swing by ted nudgeant's place huh yeah it was it
it was an experiment they did on joe rogan he shot an arrow into the cyber truck it was kind of awesome
yeah i was just like no shit it really happened yeah i was just like why not why not why not
be out of
yeah why not dude
oh
he said the windows
the windows aren't bulletproof
unless you buy it that way
and you can't roll them down
oh
if you're bulletproof you can't roll them
I kind of feel like if you need bulletproof windows
you wouldn't want to roll them down
also probably true
it's a good point
it's a good point
so guys
what episode number is this
by the way
this is
magical number
400
holy shit
yes
that's lots of episodes
that's more than one a day
for a year right
I think I don't know
my math's not always that good
which uh
because you've never
did that spreadsheet Lance
it makes it very hard for me to
remember what movies
it's getting harder and harder
isn't it 800 movies
guys
some of those episodes
we did three movies
Yeah.
Well, shoot, I need to get the spreadsheet done.
Let's see, I need to get the spreadsheet done.
I need to get all of Steve Carlton's animated characters onto T-shirts.
And I think we're done with T-Public, guys.
I think I'm going to try to go with...
Some people are using Red Bubble.
You guys heard anybody say anything good about that?
I think the Super Network goes through them.
I'm going to look into it because T-Public is not very user-friendly.
when it comes to importing the artwork.
And a lot of them, like, I'll import it over, right?
And I guess it's maybe because it's vaguely reminiscent of another character in horror,
but it'll say, like, copyright protected.
And I'm like, fuck this shit.
There's got to be somebody that'll let us make the TV.
Yeah, there was...
You never heard of parody?
There was recently...
She was one of our podcast Spotlights.
I can't think of her name.
I apologize if you're listening.
Her podcast and YouTube channels
called My Killer Podcast.
She did a T-shirt
that was reminiscent of
You guys remember the Hellfire Club
T-shirts and Stranger Things?
Absolutely.
She did one.
Dungeons Club.
Yeah, she used the font
to make for her
pod kit.
Yeah, and I guess
she was
only able to sell like a couple t-shirts before they took it down for copyright infringements because
they look too much.
I've been using the Iron Maiden font for every project since I was in sixth grade.
I don't even think you can use this anymore, Philip, or they'll get you.
Speaking of which, Brian, I need to do some more re-uploads too.
I got my work cut out for me.
I need to get this shit done.
Thanks for reminding me.
Episode 400, I guess we're going to stick around for a while.
Yeah, thanks for reminding me because I uploaded some, and I just got to send you the,
I don't think Lance could hear us anymore.
Uh-oh.
He died.
Well, it was nice knowing you, Lance.
Yeah.
He must have got struck by lightning.
But I guess I will take over hosting, and since we're continuing on with the show,
we will get into cool, the little.
week so so so you said said you remembered what you watched we were talking yeah so i've got one uh i
didn't have much for cool week this week because i've been caught up with work and kids stuff and
um watching movies for some other stuff but uh and i can't really use that but uh i did i did watch
a a little docu series on uh netflix called american nightmare and it's this girl
who gets kidnapped.
They give out like this measly little ransom,
or like request this measly little ransom,
and the police don't believe them.
And so they think it's a gone girl situation.
So, because it happened about a year after the movie was released.
It sort of sounds like what it is.
And then later on down the road,
Spoiler alert.
All right, I'm going to be in and out.
There is a crazy racist.
That's okay.
We already moved on to the cool movie.
Cool.
I didn't see the Fahey movie anyway.
So too much of work.
AJ's working 80 hours a week, and I'm working 50, 60 a week.
So let's say I had to join her.
Cool of the week?
Yeah.
Yeah, but it was a pretty good little docu series that I was watching.
It's called American Nightmare.
American nightmare.
Yeah.
So they accused this girl of being in this gone girl situation.
And...
All right, good.
Sorry, my computer's making noise.
And so the cops don't believe her about getting, like, kidnapped and raped and all this stuff.
Because it was kind of a far-fetched story.
Right.
Eventually, they find this, like, serial rapist guy.
and
turns out she was
and they were wrong.
But it was a pretty cool one to watch.
That's kind of all I got.
That's all I really watched this week.
American Nightmare, huh?
Yeah, it's on Netflix.
Now that's not based off that story of the movie
that was it John Cusack that was in it,
where they had the, they were in Alaska or something like that
and they had the serial killer?
Yeah, that's based off a true story.
story. But not the same
as this one. No. No, this was
just some serial rapists in California.
That guy, that was up here,
he was taking prostitutes
and kidnapping him and then
he had like one of those like small planes
and he would fly out to the wilderness and basically
like
let them, let them loose
and then go hunt them.
Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
But I think as
the victim started piling up, I think,
I think he started getting sloppy.
Yeah.
Well, that's kind of what happened with this guy.
That's why he got caught.
It was a totally different city in California.
And he had broken into the house.
And the dad had gotten a fight with him.
Oh, shit.
He was trying to kidnap the 22-year-old daughter.
What an idiot.
And the cops eventually tracked him down, found the house.
He's got, like, goggles with duct tape all over him,
and all this stuff.
Birdbox Barcelona, huh?
Yeah, he's had like a ton of evidence.
E.
Frozen ground.
Frozen ground.
There you go.
Yeah, that was a good movie.
But yeah, that's all I got this week.
Check it out.
So Netflix?
Yeah.
Cool.
Did you say yours yet, Brian?
No, I'll move on to mine.
A segue, because two things I watched this week are also on Netflix.
The first one is the new
Kevin Hard
Action
Comedy thriller Lift
I almost watched that
I almost did too
I thought it was old for some reason though
Did you?
It's not a bad movie but I can't say that I liked it
because it's not
goofy, funny Kevin Hart
he's trying to be more
Action Star
Not even Action Star
He's trying to be more like Danny Ocean
from Oceans 11 kind of smooth and
what?
That's not.
Essentially, that's what the movie is
is an Ocean's 11.
You got this ensemble of
people, characters that they all
have a specific thing they're good at
for the job and then they
rob very expensive things
and they cut a deal
with the FBI to help them to get their
records clean. They have to rob something
that's on the plane. That's why it's called lift.
and it's nothing you haven't seen before.
I'd rather, you know, go watch the Oceans movies before I rewatch this.
And I think the biggest part was it was just Kevin Hart playing it kind of more straight than he usually does.
I think people got like Kevin Hart and The Rock Out.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little too, over exposure, huh?
Yeah.
Like, I mean, I really like Kevin Hart as a person.
I think he's probably one of the most
like hardworking men in Hollywood
but it's like
man
he's in everything
not according to Cat Williams
uh
cat Williams is one
that likes to talk shit
he's got a little
little bit of green with envy
behind the ears
that was a hilarious
interview though
I didn't see it
it's a crazy interview
Brian that they had a
a spot-on skid on Saturday Night Live
like it exactly
like it and that's what got me to go and watch
the interview and that dude is fucking
off his rocker man
now I
yeah I looked into a lot of
I looked into a lot
they said a lot of people said there's a lot
he was saying that was true
okay but then there was a lot
that he was just kind of talking
shit.
Hellishy
yeah I guess a lot of people said to
Steve Harvey stuff is real
that he steals jokes from
other comedians and
Steve Harvey.
Yeah.
Wow, he dropped everybody in the grease.
But he doesn't even really do any stand-up.
He just
anymore,
he kind of sticks to his
gig now, doesn't it?
Yeah, he kind of spoke on that.
He said he doesn't do stand-up because he can't do
stand-up no more.
Uh-oh.
Wow.
That's a lot of...
That's a lot of shade, man.
In that one five-hour interview or whatever it was.
Yeah, and I...
Nothing against Cat Williams.
I enjoy his stand-up, but Steve Harvey was funnier than Cat Williams.
Oh, yeah.
Cat Williams was just kept repeating.
You're going to be from the Slapeahoe tribe and that kind of joke over and over and over.
He was real repetitive, as I remember.
Like always dressing like a pimp, always trying to be that character.
Like every movie he showed up in, he was like the same cookie-cutter character.
Yeah, like he was good, but he had that stick.
No range.
Yeah, no range.
he's no Eddie Murphy right
yeah
well that's
that's
once in a lifetime
talent right there
Eddie Murphy
because when you talk
Eddie Murphy
you put him with the
the Bill Cosby's
the Richard Pryors
the you know
the Sam Kinnison's
yeah I'd put them up there too
wrist in peace right
I remember getting
trouble
I was supposed to be in bed
and I was watching
HBO late at night watching Sam
Kenison a stand-up special.
Wow. You learned
early. I was
trying to figure out
because I overheard it because I just heard
some guy going, ah!
Say it! Say it!
Then Bobcat kind of stole
his stick. Yeah.
That's what I think happens
because I know a lot of
comedians now, they don't watch.
other comedians because they just don't want
to accidentally steal anything
or get the idea planted in their head
I think that's what happened a lot of times
especially back in them not to see
there wasn't comedians that were just
because I know you guys probably know the
Carlos Monsea story
that's what I was going with that
that guy was stealing people's entire acts
well I wouldn't think that'd be very
sustainable in this TikTok age
we're in now. No, it's not. That's why
it's pretty easy to track down.
I can't see it anymore.
Yeah. All right, so I was, I'm
sorry, go ahead, Brian. Yeah, Lyft, I can't
recommend, but one I can recommend
is, uh,
what was it called? Coming Home in the
dark. Never even
heard of it, so let me write it down.
Australian
Revenge
thriller.
And I can't really...
Yeah.
Um, I think
it came out a couple years ago I heard about it just never got around to watching it
was just kind of flipping through Netflix and saw was on there and it was just like okay I'd give it a try
and I'll give you the the basis of the beginning is basically there's a family they're going for
a hike in the mountains and they stop for a picnic and these two uh drifters come walking up
and they just start uh basically they take them hostage
somebody don't like you lance
oh
you bad guys
but yeah
take the family hostage
and then the movie goes on from there
and then you find out there's like
a backstory to
one of the characters
and it gets pretty interesting
and I thought it was
I thought the acting was pretty good
nobody unrecognized
I thought the main kidnapper
was I thought he was really good
in his role
but
yeah
it gets real dark
many times throughout the movie
okay
and what was that one called
coming home in the dark
coming home in the dark
yeah
yeah it's not overly violent
but there's a lot of dark subject
matter in there
I got you
I think Lance left us again
Oh, shucks.
All right, well, I guess we'll get to his cold week when he comes back.
You got any news for us?
News, news. Is there news?
Let me see.
I don't know who asked for it.
I don't know if we need it.
But dinosaurs do sell.
They're already reboot in Jurassic Park.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah.
From what I understand it,
not going to be a sequel.
It's going to,
they're just kind of,
going to tell the whole new story.
Okay.
Rettconning it again?
Yeah.
Yeah, it got a little weird
when they were like mixing dinosaurs
together and stuff.
I mean, I guess it sort of makes sense,
but.
All right.
Yeah.
I like that first one
that they came out with
and the rest of them got like
more and more ridiculous.
All right, Lance.
We jumped in the news,
but we were waiting
for your cool in the week.
My cool of the week, Brian, I hope you posted in our group.
It's the night swim pitch meeting video that you sent me.
Oh, that was Phil.
Oh, okay, Phil.
Thanks for that, dude.
Those are hilarious, dude.
They're more.
They are.
What do those guys do?
Oh, yeah.
It's one guy.
He used to work for screen rant.
Now he has his own channel, and he just does pitch meetings of big movies.
And makes fun of them and points out plot holes and stuff.
Up, it's great.
That was hilarious.
Send more.
So that's my cool of the week, Brian.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we just, when you were going to talk about,
they're going to make another Jurassic Park movie.
Of course they are.
Seems like they're going to just tell a whole new story.
Are they going to bring King Kong and Godzilla into this one?
If they're smart.
And the, what was it,
Transformers Rise of the Beasts
Brian that movie he loves so much
Yeah
And don't forget
Spoilers from anybody who didn't see it
But they tease G.I. Joe at the end
A real American hero.
Bring them in there. Bring Fast and Furious too.
Barbie's going to pop up in the background.
And then make it
Yeah, they make it all the big universe
Oh, did you all hear about the plot
For the Barbie sequel?
Oh, well, you know what?
Just real quick.
Okay.
Since you're a big, you're a big Oscar
Academy guy.
Do you think it was fair that that
movie got snubed?
Barbie? Yeah.
It didn't get totally snubbed, did it?
I mean, it's nominated for best picture.
Yeah, Barbie is nominated
for Best Picture. Just
take that in.
I'm hearing
a lot of people are mad. Margot Robbie didn't get nominated.
Yeah.
Did we lose this again?
I think so.
all right i i can under i can understand where they're coming from but it's kind of crazy that it
even got nominated for best picture like i know it was a big blockbuster thing but it's also the
barbie movie i think people commercial i think people are just going to have to realize like
like when end game came out and people wanted like robert downy junior to be nominated
he's not going to be nominated for end game or right or a horror movie like um hered
like we all thought Tony Colette
was going to get nominated
that's different
I think that that was
that was a legitimate
amazing performance
yeah
but I think
I think just
John John movie
or toy movie or something
it's hard for a blockbuster movie
to go and like win best picture
or get nominated for a bunch of stuff
it's a bunch of old people
running the academy
that's true
I guess I think
I think I read a story.
I think Christopher Nolan was talking
shit about the Barbie movie.
And then he watched it and was like,
oh, it's not bad.
I sort of
did the same thing. I was talking shit about it
when it first came out too.
And then I watched it and I was like,
you know what, that wasn't a bad movie.
I kind of liked it.
I mean,
would I nominate it for Best Picture?
Probably not.
Well, see, I would because
usually when I hear the best picture nominees
95% of them
I probably didn't see or haven't heard of
Yeah, usually little bullshit indie movies
That's why I ask Lance because
You know, Lance tries to watch all of them
Before the Oscars come out
Yeah
I mean
Oppenheimer is objectively a better movie
Oh yeah
Just off the bat
All right
I don't even know who won
all right or is it just nominations that are out yeah nominations have just
oh okay okay oh is that is there any news
Deadpool 3 rap filming today so I'm here we'll we'll get the trailer
the Super Bowl Sunday that makes sense and that is the one Marvel movie
coming out that I'm excited about
It's the only Marvel movie coming out this year.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah.
That's probably better.
That's...
Even on the New Star Wars stuff, when they were doing them once a year, it was kind of exciting.
It was when you had to watch a thing every other week to keep up with it,
that it was like, all right, this is too much.
Well, I guess we can talk about that.
You excited for the announcement of Ray getting her own movie?
Not at all.
How about the Mandalorian and Grogu movie that they announced?
I don't know that they need a movie.
Yeah, that's kind of how I felt.
Yeah.
I mean, well, I'll watch the movies, but...
Yeah.
Just after the past couple of actual Star Wars movies, I'm just not...
I mean, I'm excited that Dave Filoni and John Fabro are doing these movies.
Yeah.
But, like, I thought they sort of struck gold with that Mandalorian.
thing on the first season where it was like
a new
Western episode every week and he would like
come in and save a town and then move
on to the next one the next week
and it was really episodic and great
and then they started messing
with it and now it's not as good
yeah I haven't got to the third season but
I've heard I've seen it pop up on a lot of people's
10 worst TV shows of
2023 and that doesn't make me want to hurry up and catch up to watch it yeah it's like they they
they just hit magic with some of these things and then they suck all the life out of it
i don't get it have you played the video game until dawn i am not well that is getting a film
adaptation from
the guy that did
lights out
is it like a vampire thing
let's see
the game revolved around a group of friends
that vacation at a remote mountain retreat
where they find themselves attempting to survive the night
from various threats
this is a horror
video game
sounds like
David F. Sandberg
who did the Shazam movies
and lights out
and Gary Doberman who wrote the
It movies was writing it.
Well, it doesn't sound like a terrible
combination of people.
Yeah.
Would you like to see a rebooted
Anaconda movie?
Kind of.
I don't know, the first one
was great because of
it was cheesy and campy,
but then you had the cast of John
Boy, Ice Cube, Jennifer Lopez, Owen Wilson.
Yeah, it was stack.
You just, like, if you go back and rewatch that movie, you're just like,
what are you people doing in this movie?
Yes, very much so.
But it's kind of a classic.
It's like a cult classic, you know?
I'm totally cool making a new movie like that.
You know, if you're going to reboot a movie, it should be something like that.
Yeah, let's see.
I think we talked about Nev Campbell.
express interest in returning the screen
which I think I said
the dollar signs must have been right
so is that a done deal or she just
expressed interest expressed interest which kind of means like the dollar
signs are maybe almost right
okay well but I think I also
she's showing up the Texas Frightmare I don't know how
right they need to be yeah I think I read somewhere she also doesn't
want because she the
the franchise is so close to her that she just doesn't want to see it go go out the way it's going out so
i don't know maybe they bring her back and just kind of make one final movie just kind of
yeah why not do we're going to come back somehow yeah i mean come back as the killer i guess
oh i think you figured out the plottery you just got tired of getting stabbed fake to step
It was him all along.
Yeah, I'm not seeing anything.
It's all a bunch of Maggie Jeline
directing a Bride to Frankenstein movie.
That's weird.
Bride of Frankstein.
I think Christian Bales playing the monster.
Of course he is.
Did he get like leg implants?
method acting that son of a bitch out
yeah let's see
Todd McFarlane is adamant
that his spawn movies getting made
yeah you've been saying that for
three years now
yeah that'd be a good one to reboot for sure
yeah
when they said
a 20 or Blumhouse was funding it
Jamie Fox was
gonna be spawned
oh perfect
but that was three years ago
and it's just been
Todd McFarland saying, I promise my movie's getting made.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
The only thing I worry about that movie, I guess he's directing it.
Yeah.
Does he have any experience directing at all?
No.
Okay, well, that's a problem.
But if Jamie Fox is the guy, I'm sure he knows a ton about it.
Well, that's the thing that.
He had that health scare recently.
So, yeah, that's even going to be up to.
to it because I don't think he's even been out in public that much.
That's a good point.
And I think Jeremy Renner was supposed to be in it.
And then, you know, he had his whole accident.
What happened?
Oh, yeah.
You got it ran over by the snow tractor.
Yeah, because he was, like, trying to help somebody.
Yeah, just completely, like, destroyed his leg.
Well, that's a problem.
Yeah.
So, I guess we'll end news on Jeremy Renner.
destroyed leg
well
Jamie Fox's spawn would be awesome
I think we should roll with that
as soon as possible
all right trailer park
trailer park
let's see
what trailers were we going to talk about
first one
out of darkness
Stone Age
horror survival
Marvel Thriller.
It's a new category.
Yeah, kind of gave me
the feels of
the ritual,
but if you said it like
in Stone Age time.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, I'm sure it doesn't have to do it.
Yeah, it looked pretty cool.
It looked like it possibly might be violent.
Yeah.
Well, Stone Age. I would
think so. Look
really good as far as like direction
and the way the film looks.
didn't recognize anybody in it.
Yeah, I didn't either.
Although the trailer was super dark.
Yeah.
But,
I don't know.
I mean, I like the idea of it.
It sounds original-ish.
Yeah, I can't think of any
horror movies off the top of my head
is set in the Stone Age.
Yeah.
I mean, but it's a
scary time for man.
You know,
they had a whole lot more to worry about than we do yeah let me see out of darkness comes out
February 9th huh hadn't heard a whole lot of push behind it and that's kind of right around the corner
yeah the trailer that I sent you just said it didn't even say a date it says coming out this winter
I'm like well that's now so yeah
This might have done really well if they'd have pushed it.
Yeah, we'll see.
The trailer's telling you to...
This movie needs to be experienced on the big screen,
but I'm not seeing any advertisements for it or anything.
Yeah.
All right, final trailer, new movie coming to Netflix,
uh, sci-fi adventure drama starring Adam Sandler called Space Man.
Not your normal.
Adam Sandler movie.
Nope.
When I heard
he has a new movie
called Spaceman on Netflix,
I automatically
said,
it's going to be like
hustle,
or is this going to be like
every other thing
he put out on Netflix?
Yeah.
And by judging,
by judging,
looking at the trailer,
it looks like we're going
by the way of hustle.
But,
more serious.
Yeah, it does look a little more serious.
Yeah.
and I like that
I'm a big
I know people shit on Adam Sandler all the time
I like him
he kills it when he
when he puts when he
given the right role
what was it
that came out recently
uncut gems
yeah
yeah man
he's he's still good at a bunch of serious stuff
trying to pull up his
it was uncut
gems that I really liked.
He did Spanglish.
That was like...
Spanglish was a very...
Bill Murray type of movie.
Damn, he's done a lot of movies.
Yeah.
I mean, funny people was comedy, but it was more comedy drama.
That's true.
Rain on me was a good role for him.
Even a lot of his dumb shit is pretty funny.
That one where he like...
I think it's called Just Go With It.
where he goes on vacation with Jennifer Anderson.
Oh.
And he's trying to hook up with...
Brooklyn Decker.
Yeah.
Carl's Jr. model.
Yeah.
That movie was fantastic.
They got...
God, what's the?
Dave Matthews to try to shove up pineapple up his ass.
Let's see.
Paul Danos in Space Man
Okay
Says voice so he must be the
Because in the trailer he
Encounters a spider that
Seems to be talking to him and
able to read his thoughts
So I guess that's Paul Dano
Yeah, his voice in the spider
Some weird spider alien
Thing
Yeah, and it looks like it's probably got some comedy
In there
But uh
It does look like it takes a little bit more of a serious take
and I like that.
I don't know.
I'm excited about this one.
This one is not too far away.
March 1st.
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we're going to go back to 1991
with the Jeff
Fahey movie Body Parts
and sometimes they come back
based on a story by
Stephen King. We'll start with body parts.
I'd appreciate it if you'd, uh, if you'd send a copy to all the members and indicate that,
uh, you're going to be just fine. We've transplanted another arm for you.
Well, that's not how it looks. It's how it works, right? I think there's something in that.
After losing his arm in a car accident, a criminal psychologist has it replaced with a limb that belonged to a serial killer.
Uh, director is Eric Red, also known for
Night of the Wild and Bad Moon.
Writers are Pierre Boulou,
Patricia Hersevik,
and Thomas Nicargic.
Advertisements for the movie were canceled in
Wisconsin due to the Dahmer killings.
Yeah, that probably didn't help the movie,
or maybe it could have helped.
I don't know, that's a stretch.
The stunt double for Jeff Fahey,
almost died during the car crash scene
when the force of the rear end collision
caused him to be ejected 50 feet
into the air without a harness.
You know what? I thought that looked
like a real guy
that got flipped off the top of the car.
No kidding.
Fortunately, he wasn't injured
and the shot made the final cut.
So there's that.
What did you think about
body parts? Imagine going through all that
and the cut doesn't make
make it into the movie.
Oh, no kidding. That's a good point.
You better put it in.
I have not seen this movie since it probably
was closer
to when the movie was erased originally
when I first seen it, so I kind of
went in
kind of remembering some things, but not really
remember the majority of the movie.
This is definitely peak 90s.
This definitely
gave off a lot of 90s fields.
Jeff I thought Jeff Fahey was really good in it totally forgot Brad Dureoff was in the movie
Oh me too and he hear that voice and you're like oh Chuckie
He's great and everything he's yeah he was kind of stealing the performance you know his whole little monologue about why his art's so real
Because of his new arm and I thought that was really good
I just well people don't know the movie basically is Jeff Faye
character gets into an accident,
loses his arm, which
the sight of him having no arm was pretty
gruesome, which I don't think they would just
wheel him around the hospital like that
with his arm all exposed.
But
he gets offered to have some experimental
transplant, gets a new arm,
and it's the
best thing that's ever happened to him
until he starts seeing all these
images and
flashes. What I thought it brought up
a good kind of concept that I think he said it in the movie.
What if evil lives in the flesh?
Yeah.
I thought that was a good concept for the movie.
It just kind of didn't really execute for me because apparently they get the body parts
from a convicted multi-mass murderer that apparently is a super athlete.
No kidding.
And an artist.
because one arm
can throw footballs
like nobody's business
and the other arm
can paint amazing
quarter of a million dollar pictures
and then the legs go to
another guy who can all of a sudden
slam dunk the basketball
yeah
and I'm like
as a little white dude
yeah I'm like
this killer
is the most gifted athlete
ever
and apparently
Apparently it makes Jeff Fahey better in bed too.
So while he's sleeping, his hand kind of tries to do its own thing there for a minute.
Yeah, which I kind of wanted more of that.
Not to the comedic levels of like Bruce Campbell and Evil Dead where his hands just gone like completely wacky,
but just kind of, it has moments there when, like he said, when he's sleeping,
it kind of, he, the hand, the arm grabs his wife by the throat and chokes him.
and then you got the scene where he smacks his kid and you know he didn't really have control of his arm or the guy that got the legs the the one of the feet just kind of mashed down on the gas and the traffic like kind of wanted more of that stuff but we didn't get a lot of that and there's a lot of down time in the middle of jeffahey running around trying to get information which it kind of seemed like there wasn't a whole
whole lot of information to get so I didn't I don't know why you're doing all this
investigation yeah doing detective work stuff yeah yeah and then the ending was kind of
little anticlimactic which I felt like the whole fight scene with the with the
killer who got new body parts but was just as strong yeah that was a weird a whole
weird concept and maybe you can explain that I don't understand
The doctor was having the killer take the body parts back for what reason?
I don't know.
And then, like, so they cut the killer's head off.
Yeah.
Did they put it on somebody else's body?
Yeah, because he had the stitching underneath the neck brace.
But whose body was it?
Yeah, and if, according to this movie, wouldn't he be controlled by?
Yeah, also a good point.
It just seems so weird, like, if you had a body to donate the head to where the rest of the limbs go,
and couldn't you just, like, you know, use those?
Yeah.
Instead of the serial murderer.
Yeah, but apparently from his information, he found a murderer of children also.
Like, this just makes a great donor.
Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe that guy is filled with something that's not good.
But I actually kind of liked it, though. It was, it's that, it's that horror thriller thing.
Yeah.
Where he's doing this investigation to find out what happened.
And I always, I always, I always, I always appreciate that part in movies. It makes it more interesting to me, usually.
kind of like
when the ring did it, you know?
It was really creepy, and she's trying
to figure out why it's really creepy, and I like
that. So
they sort of did that a little bit here,
but obviously it was a 1991 movie, and it's not
exactly up to enough, but
it was worth to watch. I enjoyed it.
Yeah, I just
had questions. Like,
the killer, when you find out as
the original donor, who
who's coming to get back all the body parts.
Like, he just seems, like, still superpowered,
because there's a scene where he throws Brad Durr off through the window
and he's hanging on to the ledge,
and then he just tears his arm off.
Yeah, I don't think that's how that works.
So, yeah, I just had a few questions.
It's not a bad movie.
It was a good, like, blast to the past of 91.
And, like you said, the time of the horror thrillers.
of this kind
we're coming out.
The psychological
thrillers and
mixed in with
little body quarter.
No,
it's not seven.
But I thought the acting
like a modern take on Frankenstein.
Yeah,
I agree.
And I thought the acting was really good.
And like I said,
Brad Duroff,
whenever he's
not in the movie a lot,
but when he's on screen,
he kind of steals
the scenes that he's in.
He does.
He's a little,
over the top, but man, and I like him.
I'm surprised he didn't get
more stuff when he
was in his prime. Yeah,
it's kind of a shame that people just
kind of, I mean,
well, it's kind of hard when you
play as such an iconic character
like Chuckie that
that's all you get associated with, but
he's got a lot of good roles.
Yeah, well, like
even that other Stephen King movie
that we watched with him in it, where they were
the rat
that thing was underneath the graveyard shift.
Yeah.
Like he was fantastic in that movie.
I mean, he was about the only good thing in that movie.
I mean, Brad Durff was in Lord of the Rings.
Oh, he was, was it?
Yeah.
I didn't even think about that.
He's in the original Dune.
He's in a lot of movies.
But like I said, when you have...
Totally gets forgotten.
When you have such an iconic character like Chuckie,
It's just kind of like what people only...
Just like there's a really good documentary about Robert England.
And you see a lot of the movies he was in,
and it makes you want to go back and watch them.
But people only associate him with Freddie Krueger.
Yeah.
The child molester.
Yeah, it was the remake version.
Yeah.
Double downed on it in the remake.
Yeah, they definitely did.
You never said he was in the original version.
but the remake we're telling you he is yeah they alluded to it all right scores uh yeah
what do you got um i think it's a solid seven it's a good thriller good acting good premise
uh didn't stick the landing with the end with the ending to me i thought there would be a little bit more
of a fight between him and the the killer but it was kind of satisfying to see his head explode
when he shot him that's true didn't make a lot of sense but I like it like that guy had a lot of
explaining to do since everybody including the doctor was killed no kidding but I think it's a
solid seven uh yeah I think uh I think
I think seven's a pretty fair score for this one.
I'm glad that I watched it.
I think this was the first time watched for me.
I don't think I've ever seen this movie before.
And it caught my attention and sucked me in.
And that's really all you can ask for from a 1991 movie.
All right.
We'll move on to the next one.
I guess Lance is not coming back.
Lance said finish without him.
But sometimes they come back from 1991.
From Stephen King, the modern master of terror,
creator of pet cemetery and misery.
John!
Comes an old excursion to the place where horror comes alive.
This used to be a nice little town,
but for Jim Norman, it holds a terrifying.
fine secret. Now,
27 years later,
he's come back with his family.
But they won't
be alone.
All he wants is a chance for a new
beginning.
I don't want to breathe.
The things that haunt him
are about to begin
all over again.
A man
and his family returned to his hometown
where he is then harassed by teenage
who died when he was a kid.
Director is
Tom McLaughlin, also
known for Friday the 13th, Part 6.
Jason lives.
That's a good one.
Writer is Lawrence Connor
and Mark Rosenthal.
Hey, there you go.
Jim Norman says
27 years ago they killed Wayne.
Penny Wise also comes back.
Heard 20 says it's 27 years
in the novel It by Stephen King.
the production
I don't know
maybe he just likes that 27
number
the production of this film
was shut down at one point due to
an intense electrical storm
okay good idea
all right
sometimes they come back
what do you think
first time watch
yeah this always
it was always there for me to watch
but I just never
had the interest to watch it.
So this was any better time than now
we're doing year in horror in 1991.
I was like, okay, let's watch it.
And, you know, Lance is the Stephen King guy,
so I thought he might have read the story.
He could compare the two.
But he's not here, so.
Yeah, but I thought the same thing.
Not bad, but you can definitely
tell? Because this was a made for
TV movie and you definitely can tell.
Not just from the
where it cuts the commercial.
It comes back.
He's got a lot of made for TV movies.
Yeah. And the production quality was
definitely made for TV.
The makeup effects on the
teenagers, the bully
teens, when they would
appear in their ghoulish forms,
was actually pretty good.
I thought it was pretty good.
Yeah, it wasn't bad.
But to call them teenagers,
this was the time when you were
casting like 35-year-olds
as teens, because the whole
greaserhood group,
they all looked 30 and older.
That is very true.
Especially the other guy
that was the asshole kid.
Chip, the football player.
Mm-hmm.
With the 5 o'clock shadow.
that guy was definitely 35 years old yeah for sure and I I mean it was a good story
it just kind of got a little jumbled around for me I don't understand how the
conclusion happened I'm a little confused on why he figured out or how he
figured out to take him back to the tunnel where the incident originally happened
and why that worked and
what was the point of his his brother little brother coming back to help him
Wayne because people haven't seen it is little him and his little brother get attacked
by some hoods doing air quotes in a train tunnel and the brother gets killed and
the train comes and actually ends up killing the hoods also and according to
trivia 27 years later
hoods come back and there's a part of the movie where the brother comes back to help him
but the brother doesn't seem to know that he's dead or what year it is and I don't
understand if he even helped at all yeah it didn't give a whole lot of explanation to
anything on like why it was happening I guess he had the shining oh is that what it was
yeah I mean I like parts of
the movie where it was going how
every time
one of the kids in his
class were found missing
it one of the hoods came back to take its place
I kind of like that whole
aspect
yeah that was kind of cool
but it just it would have been
nice if they'd have tied it up a little bit
at the end yeah I just
got a little confused in the story
I don't know if it was just kind of like
adapting it from the book
to the to film maybe the story got kind of just messed up a little bit wish Lance
was here because I'm sure he read it I guess Stephen King just does not like
those greasers no he doesn't in every freaking movie he does man there's that
guys but I thought they were pretty good as the greases I did recognize a couple
love him. The main guy was in a Nightmare
on Elm Street 2.
Oh, okay. And a few
other horror movies, so
I recognized him. I recognized the
blonde one.
Who seemed to look like he was
getting older as the movie was going.
Yeah, the movie
sort of, they look familiar
for sure. But, yeah,
this one didn't grab my attention
the way the other one did.
I didn't
know that it was made for TV, but
that makes sense and kind of doesn't surprise me that sort of that's where a lot of those
Stephen King movies were back then though you know oh it was a short story maybe the
writers got a hold of it for the movie and tried to expand upon the premise yeah and that's
probably why that's so unexplained on this and that yeah
yeah would have just been nice to tie it up nice and neat at the end like when they did uh the outsider
with uh jason baitman uh which was another stephen king thing like they kind of tied it up nice and
need at the end and they explained everything and it was amazing um and you know that was that was a
show i mean it was an hbo thing i think yeah but uh but this one this one doesn't do that
from you know TV movies from 1991 are not the same thing
yeah I think I think his work is just done better now
oh yeah well it's because he's got really great concepts
it's just finding somebody put the quality behind it you know yeah I mean
what's his name has done a great job with his stuff uh Mike Flanagan
yeah
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and so I'm excited about him.
What is, what, what is, what is, what is, what is my clinic doing now, the stand?
Allegedly he's doing a stand, but he's doing another horror movie before then with, uh, Loki, Tom Hiddleston.
Okay.
And then maybe like some tower stuff?
Yeah, that's, that's, that's the, the rumor that, because, uh, Amazon has the rights to the dark.
Tower series and they had
casted and was about
to start production and then just kind of
shelved it.
So a lot of people thinking
Mike Flanagan's
with Amazon now.
He's done a lot of good stuff with Stephen
King so why not
put him on the project?
Yeah. Well, I'll watch anything if he does right now.
Yeah. He has
gained my loyalty.
All right. You got a score for this one?
yeah it's it's a five it's it's watchable it's not the most worst thing you definitely can tell
the production value is for TV the makeup effects were good it's just the now finding out that
it was a short story that they turned into it's kind of like night swim night swim was a short
film that they turned into an hour and a half movie some ideas and short films and short
stories are great to be turned into movies but not everything works well like
Oculus was a short story right yeah short film that got like made into a feature
length and that one was great mm-hmm maybe it's just yeah wrong writers
bar and yeah and haunted mirror maybe makes more sense than haunted pool
Haunted random greasers from the 50s.
I kind of don't give a shit about it.
The Mike Flanagan, the movie he's doing next with Tom Hiddleston is a Stephen King
based on the Stephen King book.
It's called The Life of Chuck.
Okay.
So his next movie is a Stephen King.
And it's got Karen Gilling, who was in Oculus.
There you go.
But yeah, I think I'll agree with you.
I think this one gets about a five.
Yeah.
I enjoyed body parts a lot more.
I am curious because I watched this on 2B and the sequels are on there.
Sometimes they come back again and sometimes they come back from war.
Yeah, they kept trying to show me sometimes they come back again.
So maybe that's the better movie in the series.
I don't know.
I haven't watched it.
Maybe we're talking about it.
even made a sequel.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll give them a watch this week and talk about it next week.
All right, man.
You're good of watching those shit movies.
Yeah, we're going to say.
It's a talent and a burden.
Yeah.
All right.
I guess that's it for this one, huh?
Yeah.
Sorry, everybody.
Episode 400 didn't turn out the way we probably.
would like it too. We had some technical difficulties, a little shorter episode, but yeah,
it is what it is. It's the life of a podcaster. There's always some kind of technical
difficulty. That's true. And we're from all corners of America, so there's weather everywhere.
But with that being said, I do want to appreciate everybody for listening and just being with us,
all these years.
Yeah, no kidding.
400.
I can't believe you're still here.
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