The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #402: Final Destination Retrospective - Final Destination (2000) & Final Destination 2 (2003)

Episode Date: February 11, 2024

This week Al Ramseur joins us to take us to our final destination. At least the first 2 parts of it. Cool of the week includes Reacher (again!), Obliterated, Fargo, The Passenger, and Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves. Trailers are Stopmotion, Longlegs. Immaculate, and Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey 2. The podcast shines on Hurwitz's House of Horror. And we get feedback from Dennis Robinson, Cameron Sullivan, and Xim Vader. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. For returns, I'm Lance.

And with me, as always, we got Brian and Philip. What's going on, guys? So, where was that energy for night swim? More importantly, than Brian Philip or me. We've got our master of ceremonies. It's Al. Al Ramseer, what's up, man?

Thanks for joining us. Oh, man. Thank you for having me, man. How's everybody doing? Brett, I'm glad to be back. Glad to be back. Awesome. Talk to chopin' notes, you guys.

Yeah. Yeah, glad to have you, man. So drinking water this time, huh? No, I'm drinking Odelo. Oh, nothing wrong with that. Okay, I'm having some A little bit of gin and tonic here. What about you guys?

There you go. I just got water today. Yeah, water. Oh. Trying to stay hydrated. How very unfil up. Uh-oh. What happened?

I don't know. Something's going on. Mm, all right, well. So, Al, you're in Florida, so I'm not the only Florida man on this episode. for the first time ever. No longer. All right.

So, Al, Phil, Phil, our listeners in. What's been up with you since? I think we recorded, like, was it last August, I think, when we did.

What was it? Brian, do you remember what show it was? Or Al, you remember? That was, uh, it was the tales from the crib. Heather's.

Commentary that doesn't exist anymore. That's right. Okay. That's right. I mean, I thought you're talking about the one when I was in Spain and, It was Simple Bowl Sunday again. Pretty close.

Remember that? Yep. Yep. Okay. It was, wasn't it? And we did Heather's and what else? Oh, yeah. Sissy?

Sissy, I think. Yep. That's right. And then another one where the two girls were the serial killers, I think. I forgot the name of it. The two friends were serial killers. Yeah. I could pitch the movie in my head.

I can't. Was it suicide girls? No. Or was it? This is the one, I know what you're talking about. It was the one where they were trying to kill people and build their, like, social media fame. Yeah. That's right.

That's right. All right. Well, we got to get that. I got to get that spreadsheet. Negasonic Teenage Warhead and a super hot, super high, light skin black girl. Oh, yeah. That's the one. All right.

What's up with you? What's going on? You've been sailing or you got any... Tragedy girls. Tragedy girls. There we go. There we go. Got any tricks going up, Val? Yeah. Supposed we should be going back to the Bahamas in about a week or two. We just waiting out some legal aides to clear up and was down there for November and December and October. and they sent me home right before my birthday, which was the 21st of December. And so I'm just waiting on that. Just been sitting at the house, tune with the wife and kids.

You know, not much. Take them to the park. Try to take them to the park. Try to get me little exercise and stuff like that. Drinking beer. I think when I called you, you guys were grilling or something like that, doing some grilling outside? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. We were dredging. Yeah, we were dredging. we're dredging for the mouse over there on their island castaway K. So. Okay. They're clearing that out for them. Yeah.

Well, going to the Bahamas is definitely a cool of the week. Yeah, that's for work, too, Philip. How would you like to have a job? Hey, I'll take that. All right, man. Let's jump into. Not my bad, Lance. I say, we got to finish the job.

It's been going like. The owner, I don't know, he's not in the gym, like he doesn't dredge, whatever, so he's, like, got the wrong setup. Sure. It's just taking forever. So, I mean, that's the not cool of the week. So we should have been done with her a long time ago. Well, it is what it is. That's life, man.

Well, you get paid, right? Either way, so that's all the matter. Yeah, I didn't pay. Yeah. It's good. All right, Al. What is your cool of the week, man? Oh, my cooler the week?

I'm going to have to go with, well, I'm going to start with Fargo. Oh, I've heard. Fargo season five. Very good. But John Hamm, his name is John Hamm, and it's very good, man. He's psychopath in that show. And then Reacher season two. A lot of people, cite Reacher on the show, don't they, Philip?

Yeah, man, it's a good show. I still haven't finished the second season. That's awesome The fucking action The action on it, man He's just so huge He's just demolishing people on it Yeah

He's like He monstered up pretty good for this one Yeah And then I have a movie He looks like He looks like He looks like That's right

Exactly what he looks like Yeah Like it's a giant Just a giant doll But then I have unseen. Have you seen unseen? Is that the one in the liquor store? Yeah, it's in the store in Florida. And then one of the other girls like somewhere in Michigan.

And she can't, and she's like grind as a bat. Like even if I take my glasses up, I mean, I can see something. I mean, she couldn't even see like two inches in front of her face. God damn, girl. Got some terrible eyes. He's got the Coke bottle glasses. Yeah, man. That was a good one.

I like that a lot of life. I've been watching a lot of movies, man. I've been watching a lot of movies. I've seen a pretty good... I've seen a pretty good Bigfoot documentary movie-type film yesterday. I forgot the name of it, but it just kind of ended weird. It ended up like aliens instead of Bigfoot, you know, but... Sure.

I thought it was decent. The most part, it was good. That's Phillips Company. tea there yeah man I love that stuff yeah but um found footage yeah bigfoot found footage movie it was good but um let me see hmm no and cool of the week I would go a final destination we'll talk about it later but yeah all right it's like to make it right fair enough uh I'll jump in reach you're you gonna reach her again Philip no I so I started with um

obliterated on Netflix I've heard about that yeah it's kind of it's it's I'm like just a couple episodes in so far but it's it's pretty interesting so like these this group of special forces guys goes in and and uh like disarms a nuke from some Russian

terrorist or something and then they go out and party and do a shitload of drugs and get super drunk and they're all totally wasted. And then they call them back and they're like, hey, that wasn't the real one, we still need you. And so now they have to go on the mission and they're all fucked up. And so it almost kind of takes place in real time. So far, what I'm thinking.

But it's pretty interesting. It's got a lot of comedy aspects. Pretty vulgar. There's definitely some boobies. I was going to ask I've seen the trailer that made it seem like it was a raunchy comedy.

Yeah, yeah, it's like a raunchy special ops comedy. Yeah, the best of everything in it. Yeah, man. I'm kind of enjoying it. I think that's all I got, man.

The only other shit I've watched is like body cam footage. A lot of it comes from Florida. You hear that out? So if the cops got to be in Broward County. You know where, you know where, you know where cops started was in Broward County over here, was down here in Broward County. That's what they started to do me.

Yeah, yeah. Not the least bit surprised, man. That's where a lot of them are in Browardt. Yeah. Where they kidnapped, you know, John Walsh? They kidnapped the son or whatever. Oh, yeah. Okay, sure, sure.

Right here, right here in Hollywood, Florida, bro, at the fashion mall. Right across the street from a police station. Oh, wow. Close to where. Close to where Anna Nicole Smith killed herself, right? Overdosed or whatever. Yep. Yeah.

Casino. We're trying to five-minute drive. Since we're being morbid. Party place. Sorry, guys. Is that it, Phil? Yeah, that's all I got. I got one new movie I watched this week.

All right. It's a Spanish. horror sci-fi horror film I think it came out I think it was released last year but I think originally it came out in like 2022 called the passenger

found this one on shutter I've heard it oh no not the one with Wesley Snipes I'm thinking it's something else right that's Pastor 57 okay get it right Lance okay

it's a decent little sci-fi horror film it's just basically these these three women they I think they pay this guy to give them a ride across country or something and they're driving through the woods

and they come across something and of course as any cliche horror movie they got to get out and somebody's got to go touch the thing they find and it it habits their body like A parasite and slowly it takes over one by one in the van that they're riding in.

And the majority of the film takes place in this van. That sounds very, very, very familiar. Like, hasn't this been done in other movies before? Yeah. And the parasite that they touch kind of reminds me of the slugs from Slither. Sure. But I will say excellent practical effects throughout the movie. Okay.

But it is subtitled. There's no English in this movie at all. It's all in Spanish. That last subtitled one I watched was badass. Yeah, it was where Evil lurks. Winnieville lurks.

You seen that now? No, but I saw the passenger. I really liked it. It's like Evil Dead. Like he said, it's like Evil Dead in a van or something. Yeah. I like it. Oh, I saw the preview for that.

I think I have seen the trailer for that one. Brian, Brian, you had us watch that, didn't you? I think, I think sometime last year, I don't know, we weren't so many movies and trailers. It gets all jumbled in my mind.

But it was a decent watch. Everything else I watched this week was just rewatches, just didn't have time to watch anything new. Yeah, children of the corn, 27 and the what was it the amityville carron and what else do you watch brian you sound like you're reading your movie list the anteville care i got a better one than that i got a better one than that this is a movie that caught me by surprise because i kept putting it off and putting it off but a lot of people said no no check it out it's great and i'm like man i haven't played dungeons and dragons

since high school. So I was like not too terribly excited for this movie, but have you all seen that? The Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves? Yeah, I think we all talked about how we all liked it, and you were just like, I ain't watching it. Yeah, it was surprisingly decent. I'm glad I watched it.

It's fucking badass, man. It's like the perfect mix of comedy, and like you've got the gelatinous cube character, which is like one of the weirdest monsters from the Monster Manual, and you had a lot of the orcs and different types of characters that you have from the game

and you know I mean it's kind of funny because Christopher Pine like his character he's like almost like a guy out of time or something because he talks like he's in modern times but he's around all these people that are speaking kind of like they have a medieval accent

and they you know they go to different places do have misadventures the villain is really good what is that actor's name? Brian? The British Hugh Grant.

Yes, Hugh Grant plays a very flamboyant, a very flamboyant villain. It was good, man. He was the king, right? He made it. He like made himself a king, right? He was just like a regular guy,

and I guess he found a bunch of treasure, and so he paid all these people to kind of like worship him, and he kind of became like this, like he had his face painted on a hot air balloon that went around town and all kinds of, kinds of posters and stuff like that. So it was good. It was much, much, much better than I was expecting.

So that's my cool of the week, Brian. You got me. Won't be getting a sequel. Why is that? It's weird. A movie that the critics pretty much liked and the people that saw it liked made almost no money. Really? Yeah, it came out at a weird time or something.

I remember when it came out and nobody was really excited about it. I think people... Yeah, I think it was more so word of mouth. Yeah. People weren't interested in it and then somebody saw it and said it was good and then some more people seen it. That scene where he's playing the loot and like... Oh, it's his face freezes? Yeah, that's the best thing in the movie.

Hey, yeah, the special thing. effects were great. I thought a lot of the there's a lot really trippy. Like there were some scenes that were like morph things that were morphing together and like when the guy that was the magic user, like when he put that helmet on and he went

into that other dimension that was like mushrooms and nature all around it was really really well. Like his ancestors just kept popping up telling him you ain't ready get the hell out of here. Yeah. Go away boy. Some of him is. Yeah. Some of him

He isn't shit and shit. Get out of here, bro. Yeah, yeah, but it was good. It was a big surprise for me. Bradley Cooper cameo. That was weird. I was like, is that funny? Michelle Rodriguez's ex.

No pun intended, little Bradley Cooper. That's right. That was amazing. Well, I could, I couldn't, I thought that was him, but when he did the voice, I was like, that's rocket raccoon. Yeah All right Brian

You got some news for us Got a little bit This first one is going to be a rumor So Don't come at me in the comments Talking about who's my sources Yes sources New Texas

Chastaw Masker movie coming Possibly Oh All right This one rumored. This is all rumored to be titled Texas Chainsaw Legacy and they're going to actually include more of the family this time. Okay. So is it like a sequel

from the last one? Not clear on that one. Okay. But I do like that idea of including more of the family because that's what may. I mean, of course you've got to have leather face, but just his crazy-ass family involved in there. with all the different characters we've seen throughout the movies. That's why Texas Chainsaw 2 was so awesome. Yeah.

So, but take that with a great assault. It's all rumored. Let's see. Saw 11. Director of Saw X. I'm going to pronounce his name wrong. Kevin Grouther. Coming back to do the 11,

which I'm going to be. makes sense. Is that the one who did 10 then? Yeah. All right. So you don't get James Juan, Philip. Okay. You're okay with that after Aquaman? I think he nailed the tone of the first couple movies. Yeah. I liked it. So I give him another chance. Yeah. Yeah. You got seen it yet. I haven't seen you. I got to check it out. I haven't seen it. It's not bad. They kind Go back in time without doing any de-aging, which throws it off a little bit. Yeah, that's just going to say. You got to suspend disbelief a little bit, you know.

Yeah. When two characters look like they're literally 40 years older, because they are. But it takes place like after the first movie or something. But, you know, what the hell? The first movie came out in, what, 2000 something? Like, 2004-5 or something? Been a while. Around the time, final.

destination, right? Kind of in that in that same era. But I'm I don't care. I'm glad Tobin Bell's back because I think they

killed them off way too early. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, he makes he definitely makes the series. Let's see. Bruce Camel around the time

Evil Dead Rise came out said we were going to get a lot more Evil Dead movies. He said probably every like two or three years. They've already announced an untitled evil dead

spinoff movie we'll all be there and they've already announced the director Steph Sebastian Vinnick

now you guys remember the trailer we watched last week with the spiders yes that's the director Vermin or whatever it was called

vermin or okay well as long as you got a special effects team on it. That was a creepy-looking movie about spiders from the trailer, and something they should have did. Not to bag on Star Wars, but something they should have did.

Sam Ramey is writing basically a Bible for Evil Dead. So all future directors know where to go off of. That's probably good at you. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. You don't want to be jumping around and all over and stuff like that. It's crazy.

What does it mean spin-off? I don't know, because technically you could have said Evil Dead Rise was a spinoff. Yeah. Yeah, different cast of characters, different locale, right? Yeah. I am interested because, you know, they showed us it can work outside of a cabin, you know, in a high-rise apartment building. You know, I heard someone say, you know, you can do it in a hospital, you can. Sure.

have it happen anywhere so what do you think Al what would be your dream setting for an evil dead scenario

I was just about to say you can do it in a different country or somewhere I mean oh yeah no how about it on a ship

how about it on a ship oh man that'll be a shit show bro everybody's dying yeah there's no escape there is no escape

yeah everybody's dead on that motherfucker it. Yeah, I mean, I'll be going too. Like some sort of, like the alien movie, not the alien movie, but the Event Horizon or something like that, you know, something like that. I just watched that the meter, that was pretty good. I like that. That was awesome. That was pretty awesome, too. I like that one, so. Digi, we reviewed that and nobody fucking watched it.

Nobody watched it now. Do you remember that? You listen to that episode? watched it? Not even our guest. Everybody was hoping the next person watched it. Yeah. It was good. It was good. I liked it. But yeah, I mean, yeah, a ship or

a ship or A plane, right? How about the train? No, that's kind of already been done. Military base. I don't know. A train? They could do it on a plane and then like have that lady from the the viral video

it was like, that motherfucker's not real. That's great. You could have to be an awesome call-up. And then have, like, some Evil Dead snakes show up and Samuel L. Jackson and... The whole night of us.

A cameo parody. Why not? Yeah. Why not, man? Like you guys say, the sky's the limit, right? Yeah. Let's see. We talked about 28 years later happening. Sony has won the bidding war to distribute the movie.

Okay So Is it already made? It's made already or? No They just I think Danny Boyle,

the director was shopping around the idea and it created a buzz So people are trying to snatch it up Before it was written

I like the first two So I got high hopes For the third one I love the first two Doesn't shock me here here, but Jason Blum wants to recruit Godzilla minus one director, Takashi, Yamazaki, to directed Blumhouse movie.

Oh, that's a good idea. Damn, that's the movie I got to fucking watch, man. Yeah, I've been waiting for it to see if it's out there. Yeah. Yeah, I can't find it. I find shit copies when I'm looking for it, so I didn't want to watch it with a shit copy. I did watch the beekeeper. I found that one.

Oh, you know what? I watched that too. Yeah, it wasn't bad. It was a little cheesy. It was good. It was with the action. It was a little cheesy, but they kind of pulled me in in the beginning. Oh, yeah.

With his motivations for, because that was fucked up. Yeah, and you couldn't have picked a better person. to play that role. Yeah. Yeah. I like how he's beating the shit out of the tech merge and shit. Yeah. He was running through those motherfuckers, wasn't he?

He was the stapler in that one guy. Yeah. Yeah, I like that movie. I really enjoyed that one yet. Actually, was good. I mean, the story was, yeah, it was straight. And it was good. I really liked it.

He did his thing in that one. But that CIA lady or FBI didn't make, man, she was annoying this shit to me, though. Like, lady, just relax. Like, he's trying to revenge her mom. I know what I'm saying? Yeah, the man worked. Let him work. There was no point to her character other than for her to just have this conflict about her job or revenge for her mother.

Yeah, I was kind of thinking that towards the end of it, it was like, why, why? are they even in this movie? Yeah, real. I was thinking the same shit. I don't fucking work. Get out the way. They don't work. As we all just remember, we watch the beekeeper.

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet because I'm waiting to watch it with AJ, but I will tell you this. Don't do not podcast and try to cook rice at the same time. The whole house smells like burnt popcorn. Uh-oh. Because I forgot to turn the boil off on the rice. And AJ's almost home. So hopefully she can make Hopefully she can make something work

We have some spetzel Maybe she can throw that in water And cook that or something Or some potatoes or something Don't let it sit in the pot If you just just take scoop off the top of the layer And unless you burnt it that fucking bad Just scoop off the top of it

It's pretty raunchy But I think it's saturated The whole thing of rice We'll see We'll see what the wife is. She's almost home. All right. And we're going to end news here.

Kind of on a sad note. We lost a legend. Carl Weathers. I heard about that. That sucks. Dylan, you son of a bitch. Yep, he did today. No more, nobody will hear the phrase Mando anymore.

They ought to retire the phrase, right? Out of honor for him. Yeah. Kind of wondering how they're going to handle that character. Yeah. Well, just don't do CGI. Please, Disney, don't do fucking C.G. They might recast, probably.

Ah, or just, you know, right, right amount. Pretty big character, right? Let me get assassinated. Yeah, they can come up with me. That'd be fucked up, but. Right. It's really dying his sleep, but yeah. Yeah, that was some of my rewatches this week.

A little bit of Rocky. Mm-hmm. Some happy Gilmore. Oh, nice. Great. It's all the hips. Oh, chubs. That fucking wooden hand.

Damn, Aligh had a bit my hand on. Oh, that's so good. He was like 76 years old or some shit like that. Right. He's looking good for his age, man. I hope I live longer than 76. My dad died at 68, so. I don't feel real good about my chances.

Everybody out of my mom's family lived like into their 90s and shit. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see how the DNA shakes out. What about you? What about you, Al? You're going to live for a long time? I mean, I had a grandpa living in 105.

I had a great grandpa. My other grandpa, my other grandpa lived to like 83 or something. My grandpa was driving a car, was driving a car like 95. It came to pick me up off a ship at like 95 in Melbird, so, or in Cocoa Beach or Canaveral. I mean, but I do drink a lot, so I don't know. I mean, I might be after some years off my life. You never know. You never know.

I think a little alcohol makes you live longer, isn't it? Is that what they say? That's a lot of those little old ladies that are super old and they interview them and they like drink whiskey all day. Yeah, like a fifth. the vodka day. I can't kill you. You know, I mean, seven beers every night and three in the morning, you know, you're straight. Yeah. I think it's more about the stress. I think it's more about not stressing yourself much. Stress is what more is like. Stress is a killer, bro. I think that's the secret right there. All right. Trail apart. That's right. Okay. So, uh, Al,

you're ready to go down to the trailer park with us? We are in Florida after all. Shit, I got one right behind this fucking rodeo. I got not my ass on my house in the trailer park. None of us in this state can throw a rock and not hit a trailer park, Brian. So Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. And a hairy bear maybe. So what's our first new trailer to talk about, Brian?

We're going to save that one for last. We're going to talk about stop motion. A new stop motion animation slash live action horror movie. Okay. Starring. Nobody I recognized. Is it like a French cast or something like that or like a foreign cast or is it American actors? I think it's American.

Okay. Let me give you guys a synopsis Stop motion animator struggles to control her demons After the loss of her overbearing mother Hmm Now Ream the synopsis I kind of don't want to watch the movie now

I was interested in the movie Because I thought the The inclusion of the stop motion Stuff looked pretty creepy But the synopsis makes me think that this is not really happening. Yeah, I'm sure there's a broader message to the movie or something. Sure.

I don't like that. What do you think, Dale? It kind of looked like a, it did look pretty cool to stop motion, but it kind of looked like a, it's like a knockoff puppet masters. Yes. I mean, even seen something coming out of the dog's mouse, it looked like a slug type thing. So I'm like, yeah, what are they going? The leech?

Yeah, like a leech coming out. I got you. What did you say, fill up a tool video? Yeah. That was the vibe I got, too. I thought they were going to start singing prison sex or something, you know? I mean, I still might check it out. I thought the stop motion stuff looked pretty cool.

when they use it in horror it always looks pretty creepy Yeah Was it an IFC midnight Or was it a neon? Yeah IFC midnight All right so it'll be on AMC Plus

So if you pay for that anyway To get shutter you'll have it What the hell's going on in the background, Philip? I think it's just like ghost Running across If you're at five nights at Freddy's for real man I'm telling you don't have a release date on this one

it does look pretty cool though it didn't look pretty it looks creepy shit though I'll tell you that yeah that's true I hope it's direct to AMC Plus so we don't have to sit in the theater to watch it

well now you bring it up it does kind of bring my hopes up a little high that IFC films is involved because they they they put out pretty quality stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Even their stuff that's like not great is worth watching.

Yeah. And dolls freak me to fuck out, man. Oh, yeah. Always. Man, my mom's, my mom had these fucking, like these giant raggedy Ann dolls. He used to keep in the living room

and I was walking there through the nighttime. Yeah. Big ass like her mom had sewed them up. Like life size. Were they life size or what? Yeah. Yeah, they were like, colored them

my fucking three-year-old, bro. They're about the size of my seven-year-old. You know, Anabel was really a raggedy and all, right? The real Annabelle? Yeah.

It wasn't like the show in the league. That's crazy. I don't know if my mom so has, though. I got to ask her. Work some money. Somebody. All right.

Moving on to our next trail. And now this is from Neon, Lance. This is Immaculate, starring Sidney Sweeney and directed by Michael Mohan. Okay. Looks like a religious horror movie, which... There you go, Philip. Yeah, man. Up right up your alley.

I'll definitely check that one out. Religious and possibly possession or demon child is what? it looks like. Let's see. Is there... Go ahead? No, I was just going to say, is there a chance, Brian, that Sidney Sweeney gets topless? That's the only

question that matters. Probably not. Well, let's see with the synopsis. Cecilia, a woman of devout faith, is warmingly welcomed to the picture perfect Italian countryside where she has offered a new role in illustrious convent.

That's it? There's more, but it's like a paragraph. I'm not reading it. Oh, okay. I was like, that doesn't sound like. And if you've seen the trailer, spooky, religious stuff happens. It looks super artsy.

Yeah. Very Rosemary's baby. Yeah. I don't know. I guess I'll check this one out too, but it's not high on my list. I'm not into the... the religious horror.

Yeah, I don't know if I'd be like stoked to go see it in the theater, but if it pops up on Amazon or something, I'll definitely watch it. What do you think, Al? Yeah, I'm not into religious horror like that too much either. I mean, it just really doesn't do nothing for me. I mean, I'll probably, like, maybe, just because we talked about it on here,

I'll watch it when it comes out after a couple months or so, but that's about it. That'll be the only reason when I watch it, really. I mean, I like Sidney Sweeney for everything I've seen her and she's been pretty decent And right So did Did you did you guys get the same impression I did that it's like about a

A virgin that becomes with child Yeah, it's like the immaculate conception except Okay This one's evil So yeah, I'm just wondering if it's going to turn into a comedy Like you know what I'm saying? Like where she keeps saying that through the whole movie over over again and then

Dane Dahan pops out from behind her bat or something in her directory. I was watching something with a very young Dane Dahan. I was going to ask, does that guy act anymore? I hadn't seen him a while. Yeah, he was an Ophidonime. I'm talking about an actual role, not just popping up in a movie.

Brian, he plays a major role in this year's Oscar winner for for best film and best director. Go ahead and write that down. Oppenheimer. It's going to win both. And he's probably going to win,

well, wait, he's not nominated. Never mind. Yeah. He was nominated. I was going to say that Oscars are a sham. Good sham anyways. I seen him in something, Brian. Like, shit, I was watching something.

I can't fucking remember. But I think Paul Dana was in it. and Dane Dahan was in it Was it Maybe that fucking movie about GameStop? I'm not sure It might have been Oh, uh, dumb money

Oh, is he in that? Yeah Maybe, maybe I can't remember if that's the movie, but I know I've seen him in the movie recently I was watching something where he was like He was really young I can't fucking remember

The hell it was You remember who was in it or was he? is the main guy. He, you know, he was somebody, there was like a kid that got murdered and they were trying to blame it on these other dudes and

ended up actually being Dane Dahan that did it, I think. That's who I would have put it on. Yeah. Fucking true. Damn, I'm looking at the IMDB right now. I can't, I still care what the hell it was.

Well, let's see you find that. We'll move on to the next trailer. Oh, Immaculate comes to theaters March 22nd. Devil's not. Devil's not. I have not heard of that one. It was actually a true story. You know what?

It wasn't. I don't know if it was Dane Dahan that was a killer. I think it still went unsolved. But there was like three little boys. They got murdered and like hot tide and stuffed in a lake. It was deadon. Yeah. All right.

we finally Lance is back welcome back Lance we are on to our next trailer AJ to the rescue she said yes some of that rice can be saved so for you keeping

track keeping score at home that's that's one semi win at least I figured they're so screaming in the background what are we on now Brian we are on long legs the new psychological horror thriller

starring Micah Monroe from It Follows. Okay. And Nicholas Cage as a serial killer. Ooh, I'm interested. Oh, this is that one, yeah. This is by... I know Bede is going to watch it. Lance, you know the director, Oz Perkins.

The Black Coat's daughter? Black Coat's daughter, Gretel and Hansel. Okay. And what was the one with the one girl? that was in the house the whole time when she was a ghost? That's why she couldn't leave. It didn't, didn't the same director do that one? Or am I thinking

of somebody else? You might be thinking of another one. Hmm. Okay. I was thinking it was called like This House. Oh, I am the pretty thing. Yes. Was that the same director? Or am I all? Yes. He...

Yes. That's a good one. He wrote it. Okay. There's a... I'm pretty impressed with this writer-director. So, god damn. Son of Anthony Perkins,

Psycho. No. Are you, I have no idea. Another Nepo baby, huh? No, I've been interested in this one for a while, because, I mean, you had me with Nicholas Cage as serial killer. Yeah, for sure.

Absolutely. He can play it straight, or he can just cage rage it up, and it'll be entertaining. Cage ready. And now you have Micah Monroe, which I've almost liked her in everything I've seen as the detective, death guy,

agent. Kind of like a new Clarice Starling and Hand of Elector in the works here, huh? And they've been slowly releasing little teasers that are like crypted messages and you kind of got that in this little trailer where

yeah. He had his own little language that he was writing these notes. So I'm down. I'm into it. Man, I think we're all in, Al. I think I missed that trailer, bro. I got to find, got to see it, though. And I love the case, too.

That's another neon one, right? Yeah. Yeah. That makes some pretty good stuff. Let's see if I can find the synopsis for this one. FBI agent Lee Harker is assigned to an unsolved serial killer case that takes unexpected turns, revealing

evidence of the occult. Harker discovers a personal connection to the killer and must stop him before he strikes again. Sounds like true to that. Now, I don't know if you guys heard it. You don't see Nick Cage in the trailer. But at the very end,

you hear clearly it's Nick Cage going full Nick Cage. In full Nick Cage. on fooling the cage. He said, and he's like, do you hear the lambs, Clarice? And I'm also excited

to see what hairdo he has in this movie. Well, you never know, from one movie to the next, you know? As long as it's not the one from, what's the one we had the, was it called after or what's that what we're called? After or next?

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I know what you're talking about, like where they showed the big tree at the end. that was crazy looking fucked up as hair that was like Al that was like a church of Scientology movie or something

that looked like you know he had some down years we all have we all have he had a payoff him Superman number ones and dinosaur heads

and yeah and the the lullery mansion in New Orleans that he lost that he only bought just because he heard it was haunted and didn't really want it.

Correct. And then the IRS took it from him. All right. The Long Legs comes up in theaters July 12th. Now we're on to our final trailer. This was heavily requested by Lance. I wasn't going to include it this week, but he was like, we're not going to review the trailer.

And I was like, you want to do it? I was insistent. Absolutely insistent. And that is Wendy the Pooh, Blood and Honey, too. Now, I'm going to get my... Christopher Wobby. I can clearly see, because the first movie had a $50,000 budget. This one has a million dollar budget.

You can see the production value is slightly better than the original one. Yeah. It's not just some dude in the mask. Yeah. They actually have hired... makeup artists to do prosthetics. We get Tigger in this one because he is now free to use

public domain. Okay. All right. They pulled him out of the ground, didn't they? Like they did they pull him out of his grave or something? I don't know. It seemed like there was a scene where they were... Go ahead. No, it seemed like there was a scene where they were pulling

somebody out of the ground. Like one of the creatures. I don't know. Well, we get, I know we get an owl, and a lot of people that got to see what he looks like. It says he kind of resembles the jeepers creeper, the creeper. What? That's weird, okay? All right.

And I've been reading some of the leaked plots. There is an actual story to this one instead of just some women in a cabin getting killed. It looks like kills are going to be better, at least. Yeah. Everything looks like it's going to be better. This is what I expected from the first one, Al. Yeah. When I saw that first one, it was just like rubber mask and K.Y.

Jelly drilling out of their mouth. Hey, you've seen it, Al, the first one? Yeah, I saw the first one in that piece of shit. Yeah, I saw that. Well, I mean, you got to give them some leeway. I mean, $50,000 budget. Well, sure, sure. Understandable.

I don't know how they didn't raise more money for it. I think everybody was pretty excited for it. Yeah. They should have gotten with Rob Zambi and asked him, how do you get people to send you money to make a movie? No. No? Okay. He hasn't done anything since then, has he?

What did he do since the most time? I can't think. I think that killed his career. Nothing. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I guess. get what he was trying to do. He was trying to capture that that feel of the TV show, but that's not what people

wanted when they heard he was doing. Yeah. I had fun with it, Brian. You know that. I watched about a half an episode, and I was like, I don't want to watch this. You're out, huh? I don't think I watched a minute worth of it. I don't, I mean, I'm straight up. I don't think I watch a minute's worth of it.

But, I mean, I'll check it out. I believe you. I believe you. Al, you're not missing anything if you never see it. Yeah. I got you. Brian, Brian, you mean? Brian, you don't like it when they went to Paris?

I don't like anything about that movie. What are you saying now? No, I was going to say they should have came out with like the, um, the Bandby or the Peter Pan one before this, one of the food part two. Right. Good. good questions because it's leaked that there will be a after credit scene that connects this movie to they don't know if it's the Bambi one the Pinocchio one the Peter Pan one but this is all in the same universe

oh so they're trying to start their own boy they started it with a shitty movie just because they can do it doesn't mean they should do it right yeah Other people will argue. You spend $50,000 to make a movie and it makes $5 million. That's true. We should make a shitty movie. We've reviewed so many movies where I wonder that same thing. Why are we not making movies?

I know. We've come up with 100 different plots on the show. When me and Ness do wrestling returns, I write my own story. lines when we're talking about shitty ones. And it seems so easy. A thousand times more exciting too, I bet.

All right. Darien has, Brian, from the padded room. They've made a movie. They admitted it was super, Uber low budget, I think is how they referred to it. But they filmed it in the Vegas area. So, it can't be too bad, right?

Was it porn? Worth watching. he sends that's funny because he sends porn out to all those Patreon folks if you give money he he sends you a coffee mug and a stack of

porn how much is there Patreon I think $5 is the lowest tier all right Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey 2 comes out in theaters

March 26 Because everybody loves to be called a poo bear, huh? Save your anger. Don't get mad at this movie. Save it when the... I know you guys seen the Mickey Mouse horror movie trailer. Mickey's Mouse trailer. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't think I've seen the trailer. It's exactly what you think it is. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. That's one of two Mickey Mouse horror movies coming out this year. No. I never heard of a second one.

And a horror video game. coming out. Because Mickey Mouse is public domain now. Okay. Damn. Why not? They can't reload their They can't reload it. Disney can't reload it after a hundred years or whatever

it's supposed to be or anybody can get it. Yeah, it's like Amityville. Kind of weird. Yeah. It's bizarre. I don't get that rule, but whatever. Especially since he's like still the mascot of Disney. Yeah. But Phil, the trailer, let's just say you should be more excited about Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey 2 than his spouse trap.

I'm kind of not mad about the blood and honey too. Like, I dot. Yeah. The person was garbage, but all right, let's see what they can do with the bigger budget. Because they at least had the one cool kill where the lady's head got smashed. Yeah. So this one looks like they're going for it a little more. Yeah.

And it sounds like Tigger is going to be the fan favorite because I guess he's supposed to be really sadistic and tortures his victims before he killed. Jesus. Yeah. When I was watching the trailer, I was like, oh, Tigger. Oh, Tigger. Because I seen his tail. I was like, oh, Tigger. Yeah.

The bouncing tail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. I'm going to check it out. I'm definitely going to check it out. Listen to feedback. All right, listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on Hurwitz's House of Horror.

Horror fan Steve Hurwitz opens the creaky door to the decrepit horror house for fans of horror and non-horror fans alike. Enter the world of madmen and monsters, jump scares, and absolutely unnecessary violence. Each episode features a different horror classic as Steve and his reluctant co-host Jefferson Slice into reactions, theories, and hot takes. New episodes on Mondays. Sounds good. I'll give it a shot. And we got an email from Dennis Robinson. Dennis Robin. What?

I know. I was like, what? That's what I thought soon. Is he bringing Kim Jong-un with him? They should do a podcast. Oh, yes, absolutely. I'm a fellow podcaster over at Botched, a D&D podcast, but I also write horror graphic novels about the world's first werewolf. Oh, that's cool.

I have my third book set to launch on Kickstarter in March and was wondering if it would be possible to get a shout out on your podcast. Yes, it would. Here's the shout out. I would be happy to provide the first two books to see if it would be something that interests you. My podcast would also be happy to give your show a shout out on one of our episodes. Because we love doing cross-promotion. I would love to discuss the matter with you further at your earliest convenience.

Thanks so much. Take care and have a great day. That's awesome. Thanks, Des. Brian, I think we found a guess, Brian. All right. Lance, shoot me the link to his Kickstarter, and I will post it for you. I will do that.

All right. Sounds good. Sounds good. We would love to have you on, man. And I definitely would like to check out the werewolf. So are these graphic novels? Do you guys get the impression? They're graphic novels, then, Philip?

Yeah, that's what he said. Horror graphic novels. Cool. All right. Very nice. Definitely help me hit my 24 books a year. Yeah, exactly. Pictures.

Exactly. Pictures. All right. Yeah. You're in. You're in. We'll reach out to you, make it happen, and we'll do a couple of cross-promotional shows for sure.

Have you ever seen a werewolf origin story? I mean, everybody gets bit by a werewolf. Well, I think so. Like, where did the werewolf that they got bit by? It's like already there. Yeah. Yeah. I think you've watched this sometime this week, Lance,

and that kind of had an origin story of Byzantium. that is a fucking awesome vampire movie man didn't they go to like the the origin of the vampire or something that cave or whatever they did and it was suspiciously like oh the Mike Flanagan one from last year help me out here Brian the one where you think it's going to be religious horror

but it ends up being a vampire oh um Midnight Mass yeah that's so yeah it's pretty yeah, it's obviously some, and I would definitely say Gimma Artherton's character is like full on LaSotte from the vampire

interview of the vampire books and the Anne Rice stuff, so and the same director who did interview, Neil Jordan, so a good, I wish to have a when season two of that coming out? I said, when is season two of those? I love season one, man. I love season one.

The Bay, Fair Witches. Even what's her name? Couldn't save that. Big Titty. Help me out. She has two of them, plants. That's true. Alexandria Dadario.

Dario. There we go. I got your answer right here. May 12th, season two interview with the man prior. Right around the corner. Oh, all right. That was a really good show. Yeah, I agree, man. Much, much, much, much, much better than the Mayfair Witches show.

But maybe they'll pick it up on the next season. And hopefully they will get to the books that, you know, where they all, you know, meet each other and, like, Blackwood Farm and stuff like that. They get all the characters in the same show together. That'd be cool. And when Lance posted that he prefers Child's Play, too. Cameron Sullivan says, best of the series. Blasphemy. Blas for me.

That is my favorite one, too. I think, yeah, I love the, I love the factory, Brian, where they're fighting on the conveyor belts and everything. Although, I like three, two. Isn't that the one with the military camp? Oh, yeah, that's the one I like the most. That's the one I remember the most, too. Yeah, yeah, that's the one I like. I mean, I just watched part one.

And it's really good. I like for you a lot. What were you saying, Brian? Who's the guy we interviewed from Hellraiser? Doug Bradley? No, we interviewed Doug Bradley. I wish. I met him. I got his autograph. Oh, you're going to make me look it up.

The main dude. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the guy that was in Charles Play 3, right? Yeah, that he's always like shaving people's head, the barber. Talk about Presto, you're bald. That's right. Didn't they have the general... The thing I love about... Yeah, the thing I love about...

There's two scenes I love in Childs Play 3-Out. When Chuckie puts real bullets in the guns, when they're having training exercises, and then the second thing I like to say. And the kids are on time of the grenade. Yeah. Oh, that was awesome, dude. I got to add that, too, but I love the carnival at the end,

where it's like just a little small carnival, but then you've got like this. With the roller coaster with the humongous roller coaster. Yes. It's like, where did that come from? I had a little carnival. Andrew Robinson.

Andrew Robinson. That's right. Garrick from Star Trek deep space nine. There you go. I should have said Star Trek. Was him? Star Troopers. Is that the same guy that was in Star Troopers?

The guy with the mechanical arm? That was my grandchild. That was my grandchild. Oh, that's Michael Arons. Yeah. Ironside, okay. Is he in that movie? They're similar.

I feel like he was in that movie. Yeah, I feel like he was in that movie. Well, he was in, what was it, total recall? Or am I thinking of something else? All right, we're going on a tangent. Because of orange side, yeah, yeah. These are the scanners. Yeah.

There you go. That's right. The exploding brain. All right. And Brian posted a red pill blue pill moment for the Halloween movies. So go check that out on the Facebook group. All right.

Zim Vader says, I like how you've thrown a little bit of vomit into each side. There's no right answer here, except maybe Lance's. What Lance stated says, What hell did I say? Whichever color includes the season of the witch and a universe in which David Gordon Green does not exist. You know, I gotta go back and listen, Lance.

I swear you like those first two movies. I did like the first one. I like the kills in the second one, but I didn't like the plot in the second one. And I, well, you know what I think about the third one. My least favorite movie of that year. That was season of the witch? No.

Yeah, well, no. Halloween ends. Oh, that one, yeah. Which Lance's hate bleeded over to the movie. the Exorcist. Which I watched somebody's review about it. They made a great point that it was a good possession movie. It was a horrible

exorcist movie. Yes. I disagree. I think it was a bad possession movie. That's just my opinion. Well, you never told us why, so we'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. Yeah. All right, and that's it. I got, sorry, sorry, Phil. I got some extra listener. feedback. All right. I posted about a new,

I think, A24 movie coming out called I Saw the TV glow. About it being rated PG-13 and we had some comments. This one on Twitter.

I'm sorry, not Twitter, X. Sorry, Elon. X marks the spot. Ken Russell's True says I was expecting this to get an R, but regardless, still hype PG-13 or PG-horror can still be great.

The Sixth Sense, Jaws, Paltkeyes were all PG-P-G-13th and still amazing. That's a good point. And then Sidney said Jane Schoenburn, which is the director, has made a PG-horror movie that is actually terrifying in case anyone was starting to think. It was a lost art, so it sounds like this person might have got to see it early. Hmm. What's the movie called again, Brian? I saw the TV glow. That is definitely an original title.

Which one of the stills from the movie, it has the guy that was the wizard, the good wizard in Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, okay. All right. Anything else, or was that it? No, that's it. Okay. Our show intro and all of our new logos come from, Steve Carlton. We had him on last week. Check out that show.

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All right. Hold on. Hold on before we go. Speaking of the geeks, Brian, I've got to admit, I was at Disney Hollywood Studios this last weekend. And to mirror Sean's statement on a prior Geeks episode, I had an epiphany. Oh. I can't hate Star Wars, man. I mean, they did such a fucking good job with that Galaxy's Edge section that they built out.

at Hollywood Studios there. It's like incredibly immersive. Like, you go down to all the vendors. It's just like you're on, it's like you're on tattooing, and then all of a sudden you're on Naboo, and then, you know, different Star Wars locales. It's just incredibly well done. I was walking through the town square,

and I was like taking a picture. And this guy comes by and move along, move along, citizen. And I'm like, holy shit, he literally was going to fucking knock me down. if I hadn't moved. Like, these Empire players fucking get into it, man. It was incredibly immersive, beautiful, gorgeous.

So I can't, I can no longer say Star Trek. Trump's Star Wars. I'm going to have to say they're on equal footing. When the guy told you to move along, was it a stormtrooper? Yeah.

Well, yes. Did you tell him I know you're not going to be able to hit me if you shoot? I, God damn it, Brian. That's why I need you there with me next time I go, man. Could have told him we could stand here perfectly straight. We know you guys are going to shoot everywhere, but us.

The winning referee, Brian. That's what was missing. Brian, they shoot like fucking L.A. gangbangers, huh? Shoot anything anywhere. That would be hilarious. They were both the bastards sideways. Yeah. Ducking behind cover, just throwing the,

got up. Yeah, Lance, I agree with you. I think Star Wars is at such a level that it doesn't matter if some of the movies are horrible. It just holds that spot, you know, being one of the greatest franchises of all time. I got to admit, man. I can no longer say Star Trek is better,

so there's no way I can do that that point counterpoint with Sean. It just wouldn't work out. I can't I can't choose. It's like trying to pick your favorite kid. Well, it's a good possibility this upcoming, what is it, Star Trek 31, the Michelle Yale movie

that they just started filming. I'm into that, man. Could be better than the last Star Wars movie. Oh, I'm sure it will be. The last few Star Trek movies have been pretty good. Yeah, agree. I like the ones of Chris Pine. I like the ones of Chris Pine.

Those are good. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the cast has been speaking out lately. They've been one, they want to do one more. I'd like to see it. And then you gotta, you gotta have Thor in there, right? In a flashback, because that's, that's, that, he plays Chris Pine's father. Well, I heard that was a rumor. The third movie was going to involve him.

I, I've heard that. I heard Tarantino was going to make one. I've heard so many rumors, but I haven't seen anything. Yeah. I heard Tarantino's Star Wars movies unmakeable because it's just so outside the box. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Samuel Jackson's got to show up. Of course. He's already got a Star Wars character. So why would... They did. They did say that Tarantino's going to make his final, his final movie number 10.

It's going to be with him. The movie critic? paper boy or the movie critic okay yeah yeah the movie critic said the paper boy but yes called the paper boy no no it's called the movie critic paper boy from Atlanta or what no no the movie critic the movie critic okay but did you guys see any of mr. mrs. Smith with um don't I heard it was fucking horrible man I heard it was terrible I heard from the That it's good. It's good.

I like it. Everybody's get their own opinion, right? This is just from one person. Who are your sources, means? Yes. I never reveal my sources, so there you go. Now, you're as much of a journalist as any of the other ones. Journalistic, yeah, journalistic morals.

All right, on to featured attractions. Now it's time to reach our. Our final destination with the first two entries. I'll see what she did there. All right. Who writes this shit? That was Lance. I figured I had to reason.

Where? The cabin starts to shape, right? And the left side blows up, and then the whole plane just explode. The plane can explode! It's not a joke! It's not a joke! We get thrown off the plane, all because Browning has a bad dream? I saw it.

The plane. It's going to. blow up it's gonna blow up all 287 passengers are feared dead because of you I'm still alive there are no accidents no coincidences no escapes yeah so we're doing a whole final destination retrospective right yeah okay okay I don't even know how many movies are we'll find out five hopefully if I set this up right starting this now because we're supposed to get a six one this year. Six on the way?

Really? No kidding? Yeah. Yep. I'm a man. All right. Final destination, the first one from 2000. Death stocks Alex Browning and a group of high school students

who survived a doomed airliner. Director is James Wong, also known for Final Destination 3, and The X-Files. Writers are Glenn Morgan, James Wong, and Jeffrey Riddick. The story was originally going to be the concept

for an episode of the X-Files in 1993, which was inspired by Soul Survivor from 1984. I don't remember that one. Was that a movie or an X-Files episode? From 84, it's got to be a movie. It was supposed to be an X-Files.

It was supposed to be an X-Files. episode called Flight 180. Basically the flight that they're focused on here. Okay. They didn't make it. They thought it would be a better movie. In Soul Survivor, a woman who is

the sole survivor of a plane crash starts to be haunted by dead people that death uses temporarily as vessels trying to kill her to correct its plan and killing everyone who suspects it. I don't see that movie now. I know.

Let's put that on the list Much of the news footage shown is actually footage from July 1996 explosion of the crash of TWA Flight 800 off of East Mauritius, Long Island, New York. That's dark.

Yeah, I know. They actually showed it? I imagine a bunch of people that. Yeah. All right. You don't remember that? You don't remember it? Yeah, they said a guy shot by like a rocket or some shit or it was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to read up on it.

They don't know, it just exploded. Yeah, that was from like the 90s, like the mid-90s or the early 90s or something. Yeah, it said 1996. That was a fucked up story, yeah. Huh, that's wild. Well, Al, what did you think about a final destination? I love this movie, bro. I'm not going to laugh to you.

I fucking love this movie. This is right in my prime fucking 2000 Going right in the high school and shit, man Like, I mean, the story, A lot of the shit doesn't make sense what's going on in the story, but the characters and the actors in the movie And the way that they interact with each other And the kill scenes, man, I really love this movie

Like, I was watching the movie And I'm like, are they calling this lady Clear? Or Claire? Her name is Clear. Clear. Clear. Clear. Clear.

Yeah. My name is Clear Rivers. But. She had a big of parents. And then in one scene, and then in one scene, like, after they come from the airport and they drop her off, like, just on a long-ass road in the middle of the rain, like, not even by her house. Like, just get out of the car.

No, but this is a good movie, man. And then, I don't know, man, like, the kills, of course, the, The bus kill is iconic. That's iconic, like, when she's stepping in there. And then, like, um... Stifler. Stifler, yeah, Stifler was funny shit in the movie. That was the best kill, too.

Which one was that? I'm sorry. Stifler being like a nerd, like a duck and shit. Carter, you're like a ducking. Yeah. Every time this guy's cleaning up while I'm in the car, and knocking him off his biking shit. I love this movie.

I love this movie, man. And then, I don't know. I mean, when he was doing that diagram shit, I couldn't figure that shit out. Like, what the fuck is he talking about? The diagram on the fucking plane? The shit, like switched up. But, no, man, I mean,

like this is this is this is I love this movie like I really love this movie this is this is a classic 2009 2009 movie right this is a classic show classic for me classic for me I mean the acting was okay too I mean the action wasn't like horrible I mean not we'll get into the next movie kind of but but this is I like this movie a lot I really enjoyed this movie you have you have you have Devin Sala, man. Yeah. Good old hunter. I mean, in the new season of Chucky, he's the president, for fuck's sake, man. Yeah, we're in the middle of a swanisance.

There you go. That's right. So I like that. I think you just coined something, Brian. Got to get a t-shirt made. All right. Brian, what do you think about Final Destination? I agree with Al. For that decade, this is probably one of the best movies to come out, one of the most recognizable movies to come out, which we're doing a retrospective,

ended up spawning a whole bunch of sequels. I thought the cast was pretty good. The kills were amazing. Al brought up the bus scene. I remember in the movie theater seeing that, that just catches you so off guard. That that bus just hits her and just destroys her. And I saw a trivia because right after that scene,

it cuts to Devon Sawa and Ali Larder's characters drinking Alka-Seltzer and I guess the trivia is they had to include that scene because test audiences were so shocked by the bus scene they needed like a few seconds to kind of

calm down kind of absorb it, huh? Yeah, so if anybody ever wonders why is that scene in there and why is it take a little bit longer that's why. That's a good point. It was a weird scene.

Yeah, they were both doing the plot, plop, fizz, fizz. Yeah, and re-watching this, death is a dick. I know. Seems like he'd kill these people in a whole lot easier ways.

That first guy, Todd, yeah, he doesn't just hang himself. Oh, yeah. You make sure that the shampoo falls over. So he has no traction on his feet. The one time it only ever happens in

any of the movies is Def cleans up his own mess because the water comes gets sucked back up. That never happens. It receives. Yeah, yeah. The water receives, Brian. The water comes out and it receives.

Weird. It's also all weird for some reason. Yeah. I guess that's like the little thing that they put in the toilet to keep it clean or whatever. Yeah, but it came from. where the water would come into the toilet.

Also true. Oh, so why would it be blue? Good point. Good point. And, of course, got to point out William Bloodworth, Tony Todd. Right. Oh, yeah. Sure. It was a weird character.

Weird character. Just the other time you can't fuck with death. You can't fuck with that Mac Daddy. Like, he shows up and he's creepy from the start. I'm surprised he wasn't. Go ahead. No, I was going to say he was sort of creepy, but I mean, at least he kind of gave him clues as to what was going on. Did he?

Man, these kids, I think, I think, I think that. This way, one person survived. Yeah, but he gave him clues, allegedly, but then at the end told him you can't fuck with death. So there was no point to his clues. What were you going to say, Al? I'm sorry. I was going to say, I think that

like Devin Sarwin's like, bringing it with him because every time these motherfuckers, they're always like meet up in one spot, then they always die. Somebody dies.

You know what I'm saying? Like, somebody's bringing it with him. So, I mean, just this person. Just this person. He's like bringing it great. I can just take them all at the same time.

Yeah. He got a, They always meet up at one point somewhere. So, I mean, I thought that was, like, funny. As much as I like, I like Devin Sawa, I like him as an actor. His character is stupid. He shows up to every crime scene. He touches evidence.

Yeah. I know. Fucking A, dude. And then he's, like, in front of the teacher's house, and he's, like, playing around with her car and, like, touching the tires. When she dies, when she gets stabbed by the night, she's already. dead. Why are you taking the knife out? Yes, that's exactly what I was about saying. And then you look at it and it was like, oh,

and then drop it on the floor. And then puts it in the blood. Yeah. That shit was funny to me, Lance, when he's when he's outside, like, outside the window, like sneaking around the car. I know, man. He's like creeping. Gee, I wonder why the cops thought he did it.

Creeper. No kidding. Oh, man. But interesting trivia here. The actors and the actors and producers were, well, the actors, sorry, not the producers, were named after horror directors and producers. I didn't notice that.

Billy Hitchcock was named after Alfred Hitchcock. Okay. Todd Browning was named after Todd Browning. They did freaks. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, there's a whole list.

The female teacher, was the female teacher also one also? I think so. Del Mar or whatever. She's just like that, I consider her the hot for teacher. That's the teacher I would have wanted to. She has such a weird scene. She has such a weird scene when she drinks out of the bug with the high school's logo on it. And then she just throws her drink.

And it cracks. Yeah, just throws that vodka in there. I get you're supposed to be traumatized by the incident, but why would the school's logo freak you out? I don't know. I don't know, man. But if she was teaching my class and I was told to stay after, I'd willingly oblige. Plus, if you're drinking straight vodka, just go all the way and do the bottle. What are you pouring in a mug for? That's a good point. That's a good point. Had she stuck with a bottle, she was. wouldn't have died, Philip. Lance, what do you think? So I really love the concept of this, man.

This is awesome. I'm glad they didn't just make it like a, like you guys were talking about it being like a X-Files episode. Yeah. Like, you know, one and done, one hour long thing. I'm glad that this did turn into a series of movies. You haven't, you don't really get into it so much in this film, but as we go on,

that you guys are going to find out that we're going to all find out together that the deaths become increasingly more oh man, what's the word for it? Kind of like this has outlandish. Yeah, kind of cartoonish, outlandish. Rube Goldberg, I think, is the term for it.

Like a machine. Like Peewee, okay, perfect example. Peewee's great adventure. How does he get the cereal into his bowl of cereal from deep in the morning. A bowling ball fucking goes all the way down, and then Army men jump out, and then something springs up from,

and then it lands in a mouse trap, and then it lights a candle, and a candle makes a balloon go up. It's like, they get more and more elaborate. Well, how do you get your cereal? Well, that is a good point, man. That's a good point. It's like the Todd scene,

where they had to sort of fake you out a little bit, you know, his nose and yeah i love the fake outs that's really cool dude because you kind of like tense up you're like is this is this is this where he's going to get it um and i think they don't even better yeah hell yeah very suspenseful man's yeah very suspenseful man's yeah i like all the fake outs and all of them because it's like oh he's gonna die this way and then some random shit happens and they die some fucking totally opposite way type shit so that's a good part of the series yeah yeah i mean a great

suspense scene was the Carter guy taking his life in his own hands and then when he decides he wants to live he's stuck on the railroad tracks and his seatbelt won't come up with that they make you think that's how he's going to die

and he doesn't but then they hit you with Stifler getting decapitated not only decapitated but it cuts his head in half not his full head. That was great that was great. I kind of forgot about that one and it caught me by surprise. I was like, oh, shit. And the way they

the way they cut it, man, them dudes got nailed by that fucking train, bro. No doubt. No doubt. I got nailed by that train. I had forgotten Stifler was in this movie. Me too. Until they were, I was watching it again. Like when they were in the airport and they were walking through the gift shop or the lobby

or whatever and he's like got his fucking hockey shirt on and his last name on the back and his, you know, shorts down to here and stuff. And I'm like, is that fucking sniffler? Yeah. I'm like, holy shit, that is sniffler. I forgot. Yeah. But the thing I love about this movie, guys, is the setup, right?

So this is the setup movie. This is the origin story, if you will, right? So you've got to get into all, you know, hey, this is how it happens. This is why. So this is why I think in this one, they took a lot more time with that opening scene, right? Like with the plane, and they really walk through. everything in it. And then they kind of explained whatnot. And then of course

they went when they went and talked to Tony Todd, you know, he kind of gave him some ideas about what was going on, but he kind of did it like a grinning way. Like he was kind of like you know, hey, that's going to get you in the end. And then, you know, like you guys said, he wouldn't quite give you the full

answer. But yeah, this was a fun movie. Some good death scenes, some good fakeouts. But the most important thing, I think about this particular film is that sets everything up for the rest of the films, because

it gives you the origin story, so to speak, and kind of like, you know, how it happens. And then it frees up all the other movies. You already know what's going to happen. You already know the plot. And they could just, boom, go right into the kills, like from the very beginning of the movie. And that's

why they have a lot more kills, at least in the second one. We haven't gotten past that yet, but this movie stands on its own, but, But I think I love the way that it sets up the other movies. Yeah. If you're going to have a sequel to a movie, this is the one to have a sequel to. You know, I'm like, I'm not mad that they're coming out with four final destinations.

I wish they'd do more, man. Do one every year, every Halloween. Yeah, because you can make it with an entirely different cast of characters, do basically the same movie with different ways to kill them in different scenarios, and it still works. Different setups. Like, different setups. Yep. This isn't, Brian,

Brian, is this a universal movie? Or who released this one? New Line Cinema. Are they tied to Universal? I'm asking because I'm wondering if this could be part of, okay, I would love to see this as part of like, like a horror nights or like a haunted house where you get to see all these, you know,

elaborate contraptions and deaths. And like, even, like, interactive like you're going to die. Who's going to go under that? This could be a really, really fucking fun haunted house, man. You know, if they do it right. But, yeah, I enjoy it too. I don't have a lot of bad things to say about this concept or the movie.

Yeah, me too. I mean, you know, it came out in 2000 and it definitely shows. But it's kind of nostalgic to look back at the styles. Devin Saw and his baggy pants and, Frosted Tibbs or whatever. He was young, wasn't he? Yeah. It was a young Devonsoa.

But I kind of think that they hit a little bit of magic with this one, you know? Like the, that whole opening scene where they played through the plane exploding and all that. Sure. Without you actually knowing that it was a dream was pretty awesome. And it kept you engaged. And then I like the little side plot of, you know, the cops keep questioning this kid because he's right. Yeah, of course. All of the murders.

Yeah. And, yeah, man, it was a really good movie. It's definitely a modern classic. Wow. That's strong words. Yeah. I think so, man. I mean, it's weird to say that about Final Destination, but it was a good movie.

Everybody's seen it. truth. It's the truth. All right. Scores. Al, what do you think? Yeah, I'm going to give it a, I mean, I can't give it a 10 out of 10, but I'll give it nine out of 10. Like, this is, this is, this is my teenage years and this movie, I watched this movie with my brother when he was working at the AMC on the beach, like a midnight showing and like shit was dope as fuck. Right. Yeah,

the shit was cool and so. I mean, like, I just, I mean, I love this movie. That's all I said. I love this movie, man.

I love this movie. I mean, sometimes, you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense sometimes, but it makes enough sense to like,

like, you're into the movie and it's just suspense. Pulls you in. Yeah. Pulls you win. You're wondering who's the next person.

I mean, when this, how they're going to kill, and I like it, man, I like it a lot. I love this movie. Yeah,

definitely. makes an impact when you walk out of the theater from now. Yeah, hell yeah. Brian. Nine out of ten. Like I said, one of the best out of that decade, iconic movie. I have to give it a nine out of ten. Wow.

Lance? On this one, yeah, on this one, I'll go seven and a half on ten. Very, very good movie. you know, mainly I just love to set up in the concept. So it's kind of hard because I'm trying to compare it to the second one, but we'll get into that later. So seven and a half for this one. Okay.

I don't know what that means. We'll find out. I didn't think the kills in this one were as great as what I wanted. Not quite as graphic is what I was looking for. But we'll get into that in the next movie. Okay. It's kind of hard to hold that. Same way, I got you.

But I think they put a lot more thought into this movie and spurred off a franchise. So I think I'm going to have to go nine also. I mean, it's no exercise. Wow. It's no, it's no end of the Spiderverse. Yeah. But it's, I mean, who's ever going to forget Final Destination? 30 years from watching it.

Very true. Yeah. I watched the game. All right. On to final destination, Noomero dos, from 2003. Really, look at me. Oh my God. What did you see?

There's going to be a huge accident. Everybody's going to die. Being alive after we were supposed to die, it caused a rift in death's design. Which means death could be coming for us. I have this really bad feeling. It's not over yet. Uh, death is stalking Kimberly Corman. and multiple survivors of a deadly highway accident.

Director is David R. Ellis, also known for the final destination, and snakes on a plane. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Ryder is Eric Bress and Jay Mackie Gruber. The accident on the highway was based on the 125 car pile-up on Interstate 75. What is this trivia on this? episode. I'm saying.

Dark. Wow. In Ringgold, Georgia on March 4th, 2002. Or March 14. So that's a real thing. Yeah, I guess so. I didn't know that.

The Stony Brook Institution Sanitarium that clear places herself in is the same sanitarium used in the opening of Halloween resurrection. Oh, there you're interesting. All right, Al.

Final Destination 2. Did it hold up to the first one? I mean, it was cheesy. It was a little bit cheesier, but I liked it still. I mean, it was a good movie.

I mean, the kills, like you said, were ramped up, fucking get people getting demolished by. I never drive behind no big ass. To this day.

I never, dude. As fast as fast as I can, I'll speed. I hit that fucking gas at heart and strut around that thing. I never, I never drive behind those things, dude.

Our big rigs, fuck that. No, let me get by here. But, um, yeah, um, it was good, man, all the, the kills were good.

The fucking, the cokehead dude, he was like an asshole, but then kind of was like one of the most, more sympathetic characters at the end. Sure. Yeah, kind of redeem himself.

And then how come and the first one blood work was in like a regular mortarium or mortarium or whatever we call it more mortarsium whatever we call it but then in the second one he's like in a fucking cave what are going to fucking coming out with cave that was weird

surreal surreal maybe he's hiding from dead too cave for dude they just hold dead bodies in a fucking cave down here but okay Well, but he did throw the one guy into the fire, right, and roast him.

So maybe he had to get to the cave. Right. So, and then the kills, like, I kind of kill for me, and this one was the fucking kicket and smashed by the plate glass window. That was awesome. I'll never forget that one. Yeah. Never forget that kill.

And then, and that was pretty. fucked up to do one of the lotto and then he got fucking he died like the next day or some shit I was a bastard put that big gold watch on Al and then he got it stuck in the in the sink

yeah yeah he had yeah he had the fucking ring I'll fuck that ring I never put my hand in the fucking sink like that fuck that all right it's a loss I guess probably should have bought a house first not the smartest guy not are you turning on

are you turning on would probably shoot itself out, right? It might shoot itself out. Fuck that. I ain't put my hand into a fucking like that. But then, let me see. Claire, Claire was in this one again. She was, now she's like the Alex character or something.

She's like the Alex character now, but she was okay. She got it at the end, though. The black dude was just, oh. And when Homegirl got her head cut off with the elevator, that shows fuck yeah they had a lot of good kills in this one dude and then at the end when they

the cocaine dude and he gets sent with the wire and he just gets like slicing three pieces oh that was good that was really good yeah I pretty sure it wouldn't work like that but it was fun to watch and then was it just me guys or was

the CGR fire no worse than CGR fire in a movie that would come out this year. Pretty much exactly the same, right? It looked exactly the same. And then the last and, and oh, okay, sorry. I just realized it was real, Brian. And then the last part, and then the last part, and then the last part, when they blow the kid up at the grill. Oh, yeah. That was a great little funny.

That's what got me when I was in a movie theater watching when they blow the kid up at the grill. I was like, oh, shit. Sure. Why not? man. And even that logging truck it like goes through the freaking window of that cop and like just blows blood and guts out of the back

of it. Oh, it's some great gore. Great gore in this movie. Yeah. Great kills. Yeah. I like this one too, man. I like this one too. Yeah. I'll give me my score after you guys had done, but I like this one also. It was just a little cheesy though. It was kind of cheesy at point, so. Yeah, the story. The story

line was a little cheesier. Yeah, that it was going backwards instead of forwards because it was trying to correct itself or whatever. That was a stretch. Agreed. Yeah. They were trying to make up rules on the line. Some of the action, like the main actress, like, eh.

Yeah, there was no Devin Salas in this one, right? Nah, yeah, no, no, no. The main actress was like, oh. Yeah, she's okay. Brian, what do you think? this rewatch, I don't know if I like this movie as much as I used to. Oh, no. It happens. That happens a lot.

For one, we bring back Ali Latter, but we can't bring back Devonsawa. And I hate I hate that we find out that he died because a brick fell on his head. Yeah, brick fell on his head. Off screen.

Yeah. But in his defense, Brian, I think he was, wasn't he touring with what's the band that got together to make that movie the fanatic

was... Oh, Limp Biscuit? Yeah, I think he was torn with Lent Biscuit when this movie came out. So you've got to give him a pass, dude. Come on. I'm not blaming anything on him. I'm blaming...

He was living his dream, man. Blaming the movie for not bringing him back. Yeah, I should have paid the guy. The cast was okay. Nobody really... really memorable other than T.C. Carson, the black dude.

Yeah. But he has a fantastic voice when he's telling the story of Flight 180. He does that laugh. Should have this guy like narrating the movie or something. I thought he believed it for a minute,

but then the he was like, you guys are full of shit. I was trying to figure out what else I'd seen him in and I looked him up on IMDB and he's been in a bunch of shit, but like he does a lot of voice. like he's really a lot of animation then yeah he does the voice of uh crados and the god of war and the first you got a war yeah yeah and and and like star wars game he plays mace windoo

back to star wars again right yeah he's he does a lot of video game stuff yeah he's a roll at role after he's a he's made a lot of movies too though like a lot of tv shows and movies yeah living single living single yeah he was a living single oh see that's why i know him mainly fraud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every single. But, yeah, other than him, I thought the cast was okay.

Nobody really, well, the stoner guy, he was kind of funny. I like, I like when he finally believed what was going on. He told, told that one girl, if I die,

make sure you go get on my porno, my paraphernalia, I don't know what my parents finding it. But the one thing I really love about this movie, and it shows the director, used to be a stunt guy, and you can tell in this movie, because that whole

traffic scene, other than the few moments of CGI fire was all practical. That may be the best scene in any Final Destination movie, I think. But then, like I said, I don't know how I feel about the movie, because the deaths don't really matter because they didn't happen in the movie's

storyline. I got you. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Well, yeah, but then they go back and kill him, and those deaths are pretty good. Yeah, the one guy that gets cut by the bar wire, again, another practical effect, not CGI. They just had him in front of a green screen, and they were holding the body together. They just released it at the right moment. Oh, really? Yeah.

That's cool. The girl that was smoking a cigarette and the firefighter, it's, it's, it, jams the jaws of life and they're a little too hard and the airbag goes off, that was a practical effect too. That was pretty good. Every death in this movie I enjoyed watching, man. Yeah, the log through the windshield, that was practical. They just

CGI'd his face onto a dummy. That was awesome. Oh. As soon as that happened, I was like, oh, I forgot how gory this movie was. Because there's a lot of things. this one.

All that blood just like shot out the front window with the fucking window that show was funny that show was nice. I like that. That was cool. Yeah.

I mean, other than a few standout scenes like the one with a what's his name, T.C. Carson where he finally believes and then he takes the cop's gun and he's going to shoot himself

because he thinks he controls his own life, his own destiny, and death's just like, no, don't work like that. Yeah. Gun don't even work. work.

Yeah, that was cool, man. He thought he was going to take himself out on his own terms. The storyline was a little ridiculous. Trying to find this pregnant woman. Yeah. To make sure she gives birth, which is going to save everybody. That was the part I was talking about, bro, right there, Brian. That shit was fucking that shit.

That's what's ridiculous. I did kind of like the reveal at the end there, though, when they remembered that she hadn't died in that crash anyway, so she wouldn't have died anyway, so it kind of made no difference. But doctor's going to choke her to death. Well, you know, I mean, you know, dreams don't always make sense, Brian. You know, when you have dreams, you can't say this is exactly what's going to happen or, I don't know. I give it a little bit of liberty, man. What is her name, AJ Cook played Kimberly?

Okay. She went off of every dream. Right. That's exactly what was going to ask. As if it was literal. Very literal. Yeah. But yeah, on the rewatch, I used to kind of hold this one up.

If you asked me on any given day, my one and two can kind of switch as my favorite. But on this rewatch, I kind of just started knowing little stuff about the story and the acting was that great. It wasn't really a memorable character. It wasn't a stifler. Yeah. Right. Yeah, there was still, like, people that you'd seen before, but instead of, like, oh, wow, they went on to be. really big actors it was like oh

these people are just kind of that guy from her city yeah and Phil I do agree with you outside of the highway scene there are some great deaths but I just felt like they put all the oomph into that opening

highway scene yeah for sure yeah fair point fair point so but I mean I still enjoy it I mean just wait until we get to the other ones I don't remember the other ones I don't remember the ones that were in 3D

I don't I mean I'm sure I've watched them and I'm sure when I start I'm sure when I start watching them I'll go oh yeah okay I remember this but like nothing else stands out to me off top of my head okay

Lance what do you think so I I enjoyed this one more than the first one and let me tell you why Brian so it started with that fucking amazing scene car pilot scene right with all the gory gross deaths and

I love it because there was a topless scene oh those were some phenomenal titties absolutely on the back of the motorcycle and I was I honestly was thinking like are they going to replay this again and again like when they remember

are they going to show it again so I was kind of like waiting for that but no I this is what I loved about this movie, it was just like no nonsense, straight to the kills, that first death of the guy that won the lottery, it was so fucking Rube Goldberg with all the little moving pieces

and parts in it. And it's like, okay, this is going to get him, no it didn't, now this is going to get him, no it didn't, now this is going to get him, no it didn't, now this is going to get him. I just think it was just fucking ingenious the way that they did that. And I just, really, I think the special effects were incredibly

well done. Like I say, man, the CGI fire was absolutely fucking horrible. But no worse than what you get now. I mean, you could have a movie come out this year, and it would be just as terrible. They just can't get fire down for whatever reason for CGI. But yeah, I enjoyed this more because it was no bullshit. Let's get to the fucking kills. Let's show some gore. Let's get really gross and let's get really original in how we killed these people off. So, you know, this was like I was just eating the popcorn. I like Michael Jackson and that meme. from the thriller video. Just like, you know, so I loved it. I fucking loved it. You didn't have to worry about the story. You didn't have to worry about logic.

You didn't have to worry about telling why it happens. You just did the fucking kills. I loved it. I enjoyed it a lot. This one was fun. Fun, it definitely was. I think we're all kind of saying the same thing because, like, the story really wasn't there in this one,

but it's a final destination. The story was horrible. That's not really the important part. I think the important part, especially in this one, is the kills. And everybody remembers that logging scene, you know? And I think they went above and beyond with the rest of the kills, too, like that plate glass window that fell, and he just, like, crunched. I'll never forget.

Another practical effect. Yeah, definitely. They built a dummy. that collapses and they just filled it with blood and meat. Oh, I love it. The only thing I think was CGI in that one is they may have added extra birds. Oh, yeah, I can see that. When the birds are flying into the window, I imagine.

Sure. Another call back to Hitchcock. Yeah. Another Hitchcock callback. But yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. Is it as good as the first one? Probably not. But the kills are better.

So... Good way to put it. You know, kind of sitting on the scales there. But I liked it. It was a fun movie. All right. And this girl brings death more than fucking Alex, doesn't she? I mean, like, everywhere she goes, a motherfucker's dying, bro.

No shit, dude. I know, man. And even when they're not dying, things are falling on people in fucking, you know, closets and all kinds of shit, right? Man with hook hands in the elevator, sniffing the girl's hair. Yeah, that was a great scene.

And then even Allie Larder getting her face blown off was pretty cool. I didn't like that. Oh, yeah. I didn't like it. You didn't care for that. Somebody that was scary CGI, Brian. Somebody that, not even, not the look of it,

just somebody that was ducking and dodging death this whole time. I know. What a way to go out, right? I think she should have got it the worst out of anybody. Oh, shit. Yeah, should have been like, I've been waiting to get you all this time. I'm going to make you suffer. It kind of took me by surprise, though. It was not like a bus scene from the first one, you know?

I was like, oh. Okay. And then, like, when they showed her laying on the ground or her face was all burned up. Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. they they killed it on the effects in this one it was better than a off-screen brick to the head yeah no shit no doubt yeah

I would have at least like to see that you can't show some dude with the same hair cut getting a brick dropped on his head yeah a picture of guy laying face for us on the ground yeah yeah couldn't pay Devon to take a picture or

like even just started out with a like panning away sky scene or something and some dudes laying there in a brick is like crushed his head. Lodge in the back of his head. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Dummy. I mean, yeah. There are these other special effects. Uh, but yeah, good movie. Scores? Al, what do you think? Um, went nine for ten for the first one.

I'm going to go. Uh, I don't want to watch none of these other ones and try to give it a better score because three is, I'm not going to get to that right now, but I don't say seven and a... I think it's seven and a half. 7.7. 7.7. That's a good movie, bro.

This is entertaining is fuck. It just doesn't... It was just more cheesier for me, like... Yeah. Yeah, like... Yes, absolutely. I think that was by design, though, man. I think they knew what they were doing.

What did you guys think about the end, where she like drowns in the lake and then well because technically she died yeah I mean I see what they did I don't know man but why would that that would break her cycle

why would it break everybody else's cycle yeah apparently apparently the cop and her the only two people to live through the whole franchise so I don't know how it broke the cop cycle I don't know

but I guess we'll find find out, right? Yeah, I don't know how I felt about it. Like, I get it. It makes sense, but it was like, ah, come on. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. All right. Brian, what do you think? You kind of brought my score down, bringing that up, because I thought that, I didn't like that ending. I didn't like the whole, the baby was born, but I don't feel any different kind of scenario going on. I don't know if everything's okay. But the kills were ramped up. I do appreciate the director using his stuntman background, and I believe he was like second unit director, which those directors,

they direct all the action scenes and movies. I do appreciate him taking that and putting it into the movie because every action set piece was fantastic. The kills were done perfectly practical effects. Very John Wick, Brian. Yeah. The motorcycle fall was fantastic. Yes.

How did he get that far ahead of his motorcycle? Flip over the handlebars. I'd done it. Are we talking about the one where he got hit by the motorcycle? Yeah. Okay. I was watching. I was like, how did you get that far ahead?

That's a good point. It was still moving. Like, fast. But great kills. but I think because of the lack of story, cohesion. Sure, sure. Using big words here, too big for myself. I'm going to have to give it a lower score of eight.

Okay. That's not bad. Yeah, I kind of expected worse. Wow. Lance, what do you think? I also give it an eight. I like this one better than the first one. because for me it was just

Kills, baby kills. You know, it's just gorgeous, beautiful, gore, nasty, dirty Rube Goldberg, this has to happen, this has to happen. I just can't get it. I was blown away by that scene with the lottery winner.

We're like, they just faked you out, like at every turn. They faked you out, faked you out. I thought he was going to turn to, I honestly thought he was about to turn the switch to turn it on so he could pull his stub out. You know what I mean? So he could at least get out of there from the fire.

And then he like, he's like, the relief on his face when he got his hand out, Brian. Yeah. I like that his nasty, dirty ass was done in by the spaghetti he threw outside. Yes. Karma, baby. Oh, man. This is awesome, dude.

I do that shit all the time, bro. Like, I'll take the fucking luck of a food and just throw that shit over into the rodeo. The rodeo I mean the rodeo is literally right down my house He just has a wall With some fucking

Oh you got a wall to throw it over He just threw it out where he walks Yeah Okay yeah Yeah That's a rodeo I'm sure there's animals that'll eat it Yeah

I don't think this I don't think Guys I don't think this series Is gonna get any better For me after this one I think this is the pinnacle But this was an 8 on 10 for me Which is

kind of sad. Like, why would this be the pen? I mean, because obviously they could, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. Obviously, they, they knew what they had in this movie and like it's like, you know, like some of those really shitty horror movies and then they just lean into it.

Because they're like, all right, like, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, I guess. I think, I think just going off of memory, I don't remember the other ones. I think it became more about just the kills yeah probably just kind of like the song movie as long as they're good but but it it got

cheaper Lance from what I remember the effect yeah I seem to remember that too I remember like a gymnast and that was cool you know but especially when they went they went 3D I think I might have just watched that one

we'll get there we will get there I think I might have just watched that one I bet you I'm going to keep watching them least one that I missed. I'm going to keep watching them, though. I'm going to catch up an all of them now. You won't miss it now, Philip, because we're going to cover them all. But yeah, I'm going to give it an eight, too.

I think the effects and the kills were fantastic. And just for that logging truck scene alone, I mean, that is like one of the most memorable scenes from any movie. And the kids that got killed in the car at the, At the beginning. Okay. Truck smashism. Like, those were people I'd seen before, and then they died like that.

Sure. Yeah, I remember. I know. I didn't expect that. That has to hurry up and eat the weed. Yeah. Right? I've seen them in the movie more.

Like one of those Cabin in the Woods type movies, right, Philip? Yeah, yeah, like a Cabin in the Woods movie. Like, they knew what they were doing and they leaned into it. And that's sort of what they. had here they were like all right let's focus on these kills and make them awesome and they definitely accomplished that they forgot to write a good story behind it but uh it was still entertaining so yeah i'm gonna give it an eight too all right okay so we're two down and how many to go guys four more right well as of now three but fourth one okay supposed to be this year it's coming so

Al, thanks for joining us, dude. What's going on, man? What's up in, uh... What's up way down there in Florida at the edge of the world where you live? Fucking, fucking cold outside, bro. It is. It's chilly. Yeah, it's all the way down to 80, Brian.

Yeah. Besides, there's nothing, man. Just, uh... It's one of those where you've got to take the sweatshirt off in the middle of the day because it gets too hot and then fucking nighttime comes, and you're like, holy shit, it's cold.

All right. Well, look, Al, you're invited back anytime, dude. From one Florida man to another. Thanks for joining. Yeah. And as for all the rest of you guys, thanks for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas.

You could reach us at Thehorrorreturns at gmail.com. Just go to our website, www.gaworreturns.com, or follow us on all of our socials. next week it is going to be the classic universal monster movie Frankenstein as well as the brand new

Lisa Brian really I I clearly remember when we reviewed the trailer again you expressed interest and if I don't put it on the schedule you'll ask me how can we're not reviewing any new horror movies

you're right So we got a new movie next week. Yes! So we're going to watch Frankenstein from, what, like 1931 or something, and the brand new Lisa Frankenstein. So, Al. Is that Anna Joy Taylor? Is that Anna Joy Taylor or something?

I don't know. I can't remember that. The one from, what was that movie, Lance Freaky? Oh, the blonde chick, Al. You know who I'm talking about, man. I don't know her name, but she's been in a bunch of stuff lately. Yeah, that's right. That's right. It's going to be, I think it's going to be fun.

I really do. So, Al, until the horror return. Catherine Newton. Until the horror returns again, Al. Good night.