The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #403: Frankenstein (1931) & Lisa Frankenstein (2024)

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

This week...It's Alive! at The Horror Returns as we bring you the brand-new Lisa Frankenstein and 1931's Universal classic. Cool of the Week is The Marvels. Trailers are Deadpool and Wolverine, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Twisters, and A Quiet Place: Day One. The podcast spotlight shines on In Love with Horror. And we get feedback from Tavares Ellis, Thunder Twonk, Neil Lemoi, Xim Vader, and madison Estes. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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In celebrating the old and the new The best and the worst in horror Everyone to The Horror Returns I'm Lance with me as always Hanging in there as he does week after week after week after week for 403 weeks in a row now it is brian what's up man what's up man here as always yeah i think philip got waylaid by the valentine bandit because he's uh he's sitting this one out man i imagine i imagine rose said you got to take the week off man so yeah it's just it's just

you and me brother how's it going how's your week man how's your week been uh Same, same-o, same-o, not too bad. Weather's starting to warm up. Kind of looks like we might have early break-up for winter. I know that's welcome, to say the least. Yeah. Great white north. But you never know.

Weather's unpredictable. It could start snowing tomorrow. Yeah, did I ever tell you about that one, Valentine's a couple of years ago, when AJ and I thought it'd be a good idea to, go out to Galveston for a warm Valentine's weekend. I think I remember you guys did, but I don't think you really talked about it. Yeah, it was a great dinner and everything, but unfortunately we got stuck in a Marriott Hotel with no electricity whatsoever. Oh, that's fine.

Yeah, no way to get out because all the roads had ice on him. and Brian, when you get a tiny little bit of ice on the roads here, well, here, I'm in Florida now, but when you get a tiny little bit of ice on the roads in Houston and Galveston, people lose their fucking minds. Everybody forgets how to drive. Well, it's kind of opposite here. When it gets warmer and people see a little bit of the pavement,

they lose their minds and start to drive crazy. They take full advantage of it, huh? Yeah. Well, man, I hope you got warmer climbs coming up for sure. So other than that, dude, I know we were talking Fright Mere. I don't even know when it is, man. I'm trying to plan it out. And I think I'm trying to get Nes some passes too this year,

but I think I might have missed the gate. You know anything about the deadlines or whatnot? No. I sadly I do not. I'm sure you probably probably got to email the guy. Lloyd. Lloyd. I'm going to message you, man.

I'm going to see what's going on. Probably we've been going so many years. I'm sure he'll make an exception if we missed it by week. Probably shouldn't advertise it on the recorded show, though. Edit that out. All right. Oh, man.

it's been an eventful week, Super Bowl, and everything else. I guess we'll jump in, what do you, jump in cool of the week. Brian, what do you think? Well, I mean, the Super Bowl, it was a good game, good defensive game for a majority of it. I got to say, I wasn't pulling for either team, but I got to say I don't like this overtime rule. Yeah, what's that all about? Can you even explain that? Because it was like, it was overtime or something?

I didn't even know about it. I thought when the 49ers kicked a field goal, I thought there's the winner. Sudden death, in other words, right? Yeah. But then they were like, well, the chiefs get an opportunity to score, and if they score a touchdown, they win the game. And I was just like, huh? Yeah, I think I saw one other game maybe earlier in the season that went like that. I don't know.

I don't watch a whole lot of football. Yeah, I think it's a new rule. change. Okay. Any reason why they did it, or did they give an explanation other than they wanted to have more TV time for showing Taylor Swift? Well, I was going to say, if you go on the internet and listen to the theories, the conspiracy theories of the NFL wanting the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. Right. That may be it. But that's just conspiracy theories. why would you not want to have a team from like

I don't know what are the two biggest cities LA and New York I mean those are the two that you always see in the movies right yeah like the rom-coms honey I gotta I gotta leave you I have to I got a new job in LA working on a movie set or something right yeah I think the chiefs are just at a point now where because when a team starts winning everybody kind of jumps on the bandwagon but then when the team starts winning

too much. Everybody wants to see them lose. Yes, the haters. And this is what their third Super Bowl win out of the last five years? I think so, yeah. I guess somebody officially dubbed them a dynasty now. Yeah, I would

say once you win three, this dynasty. Well, I guess they're the new Patriots, aren't they? I know AJ always hated Tom Brady and I'm like, why do you hate him? What do you hate about him?

She's like, I just hate him. I think it was that syndrome of they're winning too much. In fact, they poke fun of that in one of the commercials, Brian. Tom Brady, no, you've won too much. This isn't for you, Tom. You've already won too much.

You remember that one? Was it the Dunkin' Donuts commercials? No, I think that was the... He was in that one, too, dude. He showed up in that playing the drums or something. He was the DJ. He was the DJ I think it was

I think it was for a gambling site man like online betting or something and they said everybody qualifies for online betting no matter where you live except you Tom Brady you've won too much kind of clever

you know for an idea which we all know of course every time you go and do online betting you're always going to win right Brian every time of course so got to freeze Brady out on that one.

But yeah, other than the Super Bowl, I only checked out two new movies. All right, what you got, man? I've seen two horror movies all year. I'm very behind, Brian, say the least. Well, I checked out a new screen box exclusive called Here for Blood. Okay.

I think I saw the poster for this one. Yeah, basic synopsis is a wrestler, a pro wrestler gets asked by his girlfriend to fill in for her babysitting job and during him babysitting

the house, people break in the house and they're like a some kind of satanic cult that wants the little girl for a sacrifice. That's promising. Yeah, it's a decent little home invasion slash

Slasher movie. My only disappointment was the guy The main guy was supposed to be a pro wrestler He had the look of a pro wrestler But during the fight scenes where he's fighting with the cult members He just wasn't doing enough wrestling moves I would have loved that they would have incorporated that into some of the fight scenes that he did actual wrestling He did some here and there, but you can clearly tell this guy the actor is not a professional wrestler

so it might have been a little more clever if they'd worked in a few actual moves huh yeah and I think there was a little demonic talking skull I think it was voice for the Key Snyder oh man all right

all right but it was a decent watch practicals were pretty good a lot of practice was in there so If you got screen box, uh, give it a watch.

I do. So I'll, I'll check it out, man. Is that, is that the best you've seen besides the Super Bowl? Uh,

well, I did check out the Marvels, finally. Oh, wow. Okay, what are the odds? What'd you think,

man? Um, I kind of had an opinion on it as much as flack as it was getting from everybody. sure I honestly I thought it was kind of better than your the first the the first Captain Marvel movie okay I kind of felt like what was that we're in agreement we're in agreement because that is my cool of the week any well go ahead Brian I'm not gonna steal your thunder man there's one scene in particular yeah it made me think of you certain planet I thought you might

but um i thought they kind of fixed the issues with carroll danvers captain marvel i thought she was more more likable in this one i did too yeah very much so man she was she was like super accessible in this one you know because she was kind of getting uh sorry just i thought like especially in the avengers infinity war movies she was to me getting like a little too much like superman or like she can do so much stuff that why even bother trying to fight her? Yeah. And I thought, I think probably my favorite was Kamala Khan.

I just like the energy she brings, because you can see she takes that excitement for being in this movie and putting it into that role because it's essentially the same character as her. Because in the, and Kamala Khan in the movie is a fan girl. of superheroes. Yeah, you can tell, man. She brings it with her, because she really

feels it. Like, that's really her level of excitement. Like, how in the fuck did I land up in the Marvel universe, right? Downsides, I was probably say kind of lackluster villain. I mean, I guess, but you can't have every villain be, you know, about to end the world. If you do it,

you become D.C. I like the motivations of the villain is just maybe have her some lackeys, some little underbosses for our superhero, our heroes to fight. Yeah, kind of get to the boss level, you mean? Instead of like, go right there. Because she essentially had stormtroopers with her. Yes.

No name stormtroopers, just. Yeah. Cannon fodder. Yeah, but I thought, I like. more than I thought I was going to. I thought it was pretty fun. I think it doesn't deserve to be I think it's the

lowest grossing MCU movie. Well, some of that might just be timing though, right? I mean, you know, a lot of people are talking about that they've got like MCU burnout right now. Yeah, and I also

feel it has to do with this whole everything supposedly is woke this is woke that's woke I don't really get that because to me it was more about the story and then doing different things

I'm not I'm not saying that me personally I'm just saying no no I know I know like but I just don't understand where that's coming from I mean you know case of point example all right right people were were crying about Thor right so you had

you had a female Thor well that was done in the The comics literally in the 1970s, okay? Yeah. So all they're doing is they're carrying forward the storylines that were already written by Marvel decades ago. So I don't know. The logic to me is a little bit faulty on that. But I know where you're coming from.

Yeah. I've definitely seen some of that online too. I've seen an excellent video by somebody, YouTube channel, Drumdums. Yeah. Yeah. He kind of put it up. Go ahead. No, he's pretty thorough.

The videos that I've seen him do, he really gets into whatever he's talking about. Yeah, because essentially he was saying he's not for a side, because he said he's had videos where he's said something and people were like, well, you're a liberal. And then he's had other videos where he's voiced his opinions and people were like, you're a conservative. And he kind of had a good video about the word woke that he doesn't understand when people's, hate a movie because they're woke. If he hates a movie, he can tell you 10 reasons why he hated the movie and it has nothing to do with quote-unquote, you know, woke stuff. It's a good video. Go check it out. Yeah. Maybe send me that link, man, if you know where that's at. Yeah. But sounds like he's actually looking at it from all sides, you know? Yeah.

You just, I don't know. That's just how I, feel I'm not I'm not for any side I'm for I'm for the the side of common sense I got to I got to listen to all the facts and come up with my own opinion yeah have a little bit of logic to it you mean yeah yeah I'm I'm for the side of good movies I just want to see good good shit so to me this was really so the things that I really liked about this one Brian yes there is a a song and dance number right so you knew that was going to get me, but I just thought this movie did a lot of things that were really original. And it was kind of a smaller...

It was more than a song and dance number. It was a prominent of people that only spoke in song. Okay, let's back that up. You're right. And that is the movie I want to see, Brian. That's the MCU movie that I want to see. When are we going to get that one? As much as I speak my displeasure about musicals, I thought that whole planet was

hilarious, especially when somebody was just speaking regular and Carol Danvers was just like, they're not going to understand you. You have to sing your words. And then the prince comes and he's not singing and he's talking and they're like, well, he's bilingual. When Marvel Nails Comedy, they nail it, man. Yeah, this movie was very lighthearted. I like the way that it was, like you said, it humanized her more. okay and it definitely was a smaller scale. As far as the big issue, yeah, I mean, I don't know if the villain was the big issue of the movie, Brian, to me, the villain was almost the B plot. I mean, the big issue was obviously what was happening with the three characters and bringing them together.

And I love the way they ended it because they definitely opened the door for something else. Oh, we can say it. It's already out there. yeah well dude basically i don't know if you noticed she she copied the exact same lines from uh which movie was it was it was at the end of iron man when um when you had the uh the same soliloquy that she said but she in a lighter way because it was it was nick fury the first time it was a little more heavy you know basically you're about to enter what was it you're about to enter a whole new universe or something like that. It was the same speech.

That was good. And then, of course, we got the other after-credit scene, which we can talk about that, too. It's already out there. Monica Rambo went to another reality

where a version of her mother is alive, and I'm assuming that universe is Captain Marvel. And then in comes walking beast of the X-Men, which I thought he looked pretty good. I did, too. I did too. And you got what's his name? Kelsey Grammer back is the voice.

Yeah, I was going to say definitely more of an aged beast, right? I would hope when they do introduce the X-Men, they're going to be relatively young, you know, but that was an interesting way to do it. And then you got Deadpool and Wolverine coming out, so how's that all going to fit together? Yeah, well, we'll talk about that. but I think well we both had the same cool of the week so I think we can move on

nice all right well we both thought the Super Bowl was pretty cool too so we'll throw that in the liner notes what do you think yeah it's a good game just a little just a little confusion on my part probably your part is just how the overtime rules work yeah I guess we'll get used to it

you know you know well just to speak on that if you're going to give the other team an opportunity to score, you might as well play the whole time of the overtime period. Yeah, I've always kind of been a fan of just like overtime should be like an extra quarter. And then like whoever's ahead at the end of that quarter wins the game. Yeah. You know, like add a quarter.

And then if it's still tied at another quarter. But I don't know, dude. There's so many ways to do it. Yeah. You know, it is what it is. I mean, it's not, okay, look at it. this way. It's not like they didn't announce the rules prior to

the game being played. You know, if they that's what they say. If you want to believe the conspiracy theories, the 49ers weren't notified. Oh, Lord. Or weren't reminded about the rule

changes. Gotcha. Allegedly. Conspiracy theories. I know. I, a lot of those I don't want to get into politics, Brian. I'm just thinking of all towns, of all towns to root for San Francisco.

Hey, I have no problem with the Chiefs winning. I don't want the Swifties to come after our show. Congratulations. They will. All right. What horror headlines? Yeah, what you got, man? Hopefully

something coming out, man. Hopefully something new. Well, we got some few interesting things that were announced. we were all fans of the Predator Prequel movie Prey. Absolutely. They made two announcements this week.

Dan Tractenberg is returning and developing Prey 2. But before we did... Oh, I'm sorry. Is it set in the same timeline? It's a continuation. They're bringing back, from what I understand, they're bringing back

the main actress, Amber mid-thunder, I believe her name is. Yep, that's right. But before we get that, early next year, we'll get another predator movie called Badlands, which will also be directed by Dan Tractonburg.

Okay, Badlands. So is it a Wild West theme? I was curious about it, so I kind of did some digging, see if there was like some posting, some YouTube videos, any theories out there? And that that seems to be the consensus that

the badlands will be a Western Pretty cool so that would be cool Megan's Megan 2.0 I think got a January

2026 release date they've pushed it up to May 26 they pushed it up to May 2025 so a little a little over a year from now. I was about to say she'll be 30 by the time this movie comes out. She'll just, well,

the ageer. I had fun with the movies, so I don't want them to start pumping out making movies every year, and then they'll just, the quality will go down, they'll just get cheesier and cheesier. I'm sure you got a point, right?

Sometimes the little cheese is fun, though, man. Look at Lepp in the Hood, for example. Megan Let's see I know he had some other news I know he's had some recent some ratings to some movies we're going to review

Let's see Immaculent I don't think we're I don't think that's going to be on the schedule But the Sydney Sweeney Religious Horror Immaculant is going to be rated R for bloody content Bloody violent content

Grizzly images nudity in some language Hmm. All right, well, as well it should be, right? Yeah. Let's see. We got a rating on imaginary. Let me guess. PG-13.

It's got to be. Yeah. That trailer, there's no way this movie's going to be rated R, man. I thought we had a rating for Abigail. Abigail's, I don't have what is all going to be rated for, but that one's going to be a rated R movie. Yeah, I was about to say that one can't, can't not, there's no way it cannot be R rated, you know?

I mean, it's just demented enough from the trailer and everybody that's in it. If that was PG-13, people would revolt. Yes. This news I'm not excited for. Uh-oh. Okay, we're getting a conjuring four. It will be the last in the conjuring.

Of course. it'll be the last one in the actual conjuring franchise until the next one no they're ending the the ed and lorraine story okay what they're gonna kill a lot with i'm fine with they're dead now lance so okay so god god already took care of that one i got you but the thing i'm not happy for i don't i i'm i'm a fan of the conjuring movies not the third one i really enjoyed the first two sure but but I'm not a fan of is Michael Chavez, the director of the third one, and I believe the Nunn movies,

or Lila Rona, one of those. He needs to quit, man. He's in talks to direct. Now, Lance, wouldn't it make sense for James Wan to finish the franchise off? Well,

Philip would tell you he's too busy producing. I mean, he probably is. It's going to disqualify him. So, it would make perfect sense. That would be beautiful, right? It'd be the perfect way to end the series.

But, of course, that's why they're not going to do it. Let's see. We talked about a new Jurassic Park World movie that they were doing. Sure. David Letch, director of John Wick, Deadpool 2, Hobbs and Shaw was attached to direct. He is no longer a part of the project due to... I think it was creative differences. Yeah.

Oh, you, boy. Okay. They were probably like... I thought you said David Lynch at first, and I'm like, okay. Dinosaurs on acid, or what? I think they need to go the horror route with these new Jurassic Park movies.

You think so? That would be pretty cool. Like the Velasipaster route, you think, Brian? Yeah, because it just, you got the last basically the Jurassic World movies in the whole we're all action movies

action adventure movies let's take a different route let's make them a little bit more horror a little bit more thriller yeah I could get behind that man let's see we're going to talk about that in trailers I guess we can talk about

the big non horror news along with the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer on Valentine's Day we got an announcement of our fantastic forecast yeah it's an interesting way

to announce it wasn't it yep so playing the Fantastic Four Pedro Pascal will be Reed Richards yeah which I think is excellent casting by the way I don't think he's too old at all because Reed Richards from the very

first issue had the you know the salt and pepper hair yeah so it's perfect perfect this one i'm excited for Vanessa Kirby at Sue storm she's played some weird roles man she's uh she's definitely got some range no doubt about that uh Joseph Quinn from Stranger Things he's the one that has The guitar solo, the Metallica guitar solo. I thought that's who that was. I didn't recognize him without his fucking long hair, dude, without his main. He will be Johnny Storm. Sure, yeah, young and impetuous, I can see that.

And the one that kind of coughed me off guard, but after watching the bear, I'm totally fine with. I'm going to butcher his name. Ibon Moss Bachrach. Just call him cousin, Brian. Everybody else does. Yeah, he will be Ben Grim. It's really kind of genius casting, quite frankly. I mean, this is probably, would have there been three fantastic forecast if you count Roger Cormons?

Or there have been four up until now. They keep trying to get Fantastic Four right, you know, and they keep failing. Oh, you got the John Cresensky, Reed Richards. That's right. That's right. I'm glad they didn't go there. Yeah, because if you did John Cresensky, you would have to get his wife, Emily Blunt, as Sue Storm,

and she doesn't seem like she wants to do Marvel movies. Good for her. I'm glad she doesn't. Yeah, no, I think the casting's superb. This one I'm looking forward to. So hopefully all these haters are going to quit being mad at the woke Marvel or whatever it is. and say, you know what, these are damn good decisions to cast these people. We like the way it's going and we're going to stick with it.

Obviously, they're bringing the X-Men back. I mean, if they're already showing the beast at the end of the movie. Interesting, you brought that up. I didn't send the trailer for us to review, but today as we're recording this, they released the trailer for the X-Men 97. They're bringing back the 90s animated series. I saw that on the Geeks.

page, I think. Yeah, and there's a lot of theories. This version of the X-Men in the animated series is the version we're getting in the MCU. Okay, so is this the original X-Men or is this the all-new, all-different X-Men? The original from its continuation from the

animated series. Hmm. All right, I never watched it, but I'll start watching it now. Where's it going to be streaming? The original series and the the continue of the new series 97 will all is all going to be on Disney Plus

I think the new series I think March 30th okay give us something new to watch I usually don't watch animated stuff but for the X-Men I'll make an exception yeah I mean if you're an X-Men fan I think everybody should watch the

series from the 90s and one more thing about the Fantastic Four just looking at the little art poster they released it looks like it's going to be set in the 60s or at least begin in the 60s which i think is a great idea got the got the retro thing going on yeah okay i can go for that they had like a little robot or something didn't they like a robbie the robot type herbie herbie what a name got to be cute yeah to add the cuteness fact yep yep I see right there in the corner.

Herbie the robots in the picture also. All right. And it looks like there's a picture on the wall of Ben Grimm before he's the thing. So it looks like they're going to go back to being astronauts. That's good. I mean, the more it can be like the actual comic book, the happier I'll be. And the more the characters can remind me of what I visualized when I was reading the comics, the happier I'll be. and you cannot get closer to Mr. Fantastic for me than Pedro Pascal for my money.

Like he's perfect. Yeah. Great casting. I was fine with it. I wasn't one of the people that are just like, he's too old, he's too old. He doesn't look at all. Yeah. Wasn't too old in The Last of Us.

He wasn't too old in the Mandalorian. Yeah. Getting excited, man. Getting excited. And let me see if I got a release date. It's July 25th, 2025, so a little over a year from now. Be here before you know it. They bumped up Marvel's the Thunderbolts,

which is essentially Marvel's Suicide Squad movie. That got bumped to May 2nd, so get both those movies next year. Cool. Yeah, that could be a lot of fun. We'll see. It probably won't be as fun as the Suicide Squad. you know the second one, the polka dot man and all that,

but they'll try, they'll try. Love that movie. Yeah, that's when I can watch over and over again. Who thought we would all love John Cena as peacemaker? Hey, are they doing a season two, speaking of which? I think I neither read they started filming it. Neither they started filming or they finished writing it. So it's definitely, James Gunn said definitely.

the the ones that are coming over into the new DCU is what they're calling in at the DCE that was the old is John Cena's peacemaker the guy that played like the the guy the character vigilante and peacemaker that thought he was a John Cine's best room he's coming over okay good blue beetle's coming over because technically they said that's not that was never connected to the the old universe verse okay okay and uh Amanda Waller those are the four that I heard that they're bringing over so so has Aquaman out then is that what you're Aquaman's out but Jason Mamoa might still be in as a different character

Lobo yeah's got to be Lobo that's the only character I ever visualized when I they said no was gonna be in the DCU that that's the character he wants to play That's perfect. Just boom, done. Signed the dotted line. Make it happen now. There is possibly a role for Dave Batista because he's been meeting with jazz gun. Yeah. Why not, man? Why wouldn't there be? He wants to be Bain. I think he'll be in the new DC, you, but I don't think it'll be Bain. I think they'll go with somebody else. Okay. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of Bain. But maybe I was in the comic books and I just kind of hated what they did with them in the movie. I don't know.

Well, if you're going to comic books, then he's got to speak Spanish. Okay. And I don't know if I'll buy Dave Batista with a Spanish accent. I don't know. I guess we'll find out, won't we? So is it going to be Robert Pattinson then that's going to play Batman, you think? that's a separate that's a it's like the kind of they're doing the thing with the comic books where

there'll be like two different other worlds yeah I think they're calling it elseworld movies else worlds that's what I meant to say gotcha okay that's cool that allows for creative freedoms right yeah so hey dude we're gonna we're gonna get a

joker musical so how much can I complain right I strangely enough I am somewhat interested to see how they make this thing work. Brian, you're becoming a musicals fan. I just want to see, is this an actual musical, or is this like all played out in the Joker's mind or something? And does it matter, right, at the end of the day?

If it's real or not, right? I don't know. I do think it's great casting for Lady Gaga to play Harley Quinn. Yeah, why not, right? All right, I think if there's any trying to see, no, that's it. It's the news. All right. Okay, so now Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes they're very, very weird as we go into a special Super Bowl edition of the trailer park. What are we talking about this week, Brian?

well I kind of organize these in from least anticipated to most anticipated at least on my point I still I want to when I say least anticipated doesn't mean I don't want to watch it just fair enough I got you man yeah you got to you got to put things in order somehow right yeah so first one we're going to talk about is twisters twisters twisters not to be confused these with titty twisters, right? No. All right. This one stars

Katie O'Brien, Glenn Powell, which Glenn Powell was my pick for Johnny Storm, just the way he played his character in Top Gun Maverick. Trying to visualize who we're talking about here, so go ahead, man. You said Glenn Powell?

Yeah, but it's been a while. Yeah, he was hangman. He was the Val Kilmer of the movie. The cocky guy. Yeah. Okay. Yes, I could see him as Johnny Storm. I see what you're getting at.

Let's see. You got Kieran Shipka. Okay. Sabrina from the Netflix series. Daisy Edgar Jones from Fresh. Sure, sure. Yep. That's probably the one I recognize the most so far.

David Cornswet, which is the new Superman. He is in this movie, which I didn't even see him in the trailer. Okay. And I thought you said Hornswaggle. David Hornswaggle at first. And interesting that the director is Lee Isaac Chung. I haven't seen it, but I do recognize the movie that he has directed and was Manari. Oh, wow.

the one with gland in it? Yeah, that was Oscar nominated, right? Yeah, that was super dry and super boring. So I'm shocked that he's going to do a movie about people that chase around all these weather phenomena, but okay. And then another thing I noticed that was interesting, I believe this is him. Michael Crichton, he was the writer of Jurassic Park and the original Twister. Yes, rest in peace. this is based off

I don't know I see Mark L. Smith is also a writer Okay And he is known for The Revenant That was really good So you got the writer of the Revenant And the director of Minari

Huh He was doing twisters That's bizarre I mean is it Are you trying to tell me This might actually be good It's a possibility I mean

I'll get into my review of the trailer this looks like a good fun popcorn movie but with that being said they didn't show me anything new as far as what I know I'm a fan of the original it's very much a teaser Brian yeah big fan of the original movie one of my only trips to Florida I actually went to the Twisters of of ride at Universal. Right. Which was amazing

because they had trucks flipping over and stuff blowing by and you can actually feel like you're there. Sure. So big fan of the original one. But just watching this trailer, I do like Glenn Powell. Like I said, that was my pick for Johnny Storm. Okay.

Some of the other actors and actresses I mentioned, I do like. but just it looks like you're just going to go there to see stuff get destroyed I don't know what the story is going to be you got Glenn Powell

basically playing like this cowboy tornado hunter rider or whatever he's called himself okay so I think visually I think this is going to look amazing on the big screen okay I hope

Maybe. It'd be great in 3D, wouldn't it? Well, I was going to say that thing that you went to D-Box. Mm-hmm. Yes. The Desmond had so much fun ribbing me the whole time that problem. Well, it did sound like you said you had got the D, so. The Big D.

The Big D, yeah. But I think for a theater that offers that D-box, not the Big D. Right. I think I think Twisters would be a perfect movie for Yeah makes sense water spraying everything Yeah We hope just water Oh man I don't know dude I'm glad you're excited about it

When I saw when I saw this trailer This was these are all going to be Super Bowl right Like mostly the teaser So dude the only thing I could visualize Brian I hate to say it But you know you know how when they they'll have like a drunk an office party like in a movie or something like that and the cheap ass bosses

they're too cheap to actually spring for real like Christmas bonus presents for employees and shit like that so what they do is they get them really really drunk and ply them with alcohol and then they'll put them like inside this glass case that kind of looks like a phone booth or something and like turn it on

and all these dollar bills start going around like a tornado and a circle and they say, hey, you can have as many as you can catch. And they like stick them to their shirt and put them in their pockets. And they walk out with like $13 and looking like shit with their hair all disheveled and everybody laughing at them and making them go viral by videoing it. This is what this felt like to me just a complete cash grab. So I don't know, man.

We'll see. But I don't have a lot of faith in this one. I hope I'm wrong. I hope this is really good. They put the money into it. Do they have a super high budget? Or you kind of speculating that? Or are they announced anything on?

I'm sure there's going to be a lot of CGI, Brian. Let's get real. I mean, come on. Budget, estimated a budget, $200 million. Oh, wow. Well, I guarantee you. Guarantee you, Ryan. You can take this to the bank.

There will be a flying cow or at least some sort of animal, right? Yeah. and from what I heard about rumors Helen Hunt is supposed to make a cameo and of course we can't have Bill Paxton or Phillips E.M.R. Hoffman because they've passed though. Wow. I'm sure she'll have some sort of relation to somebody. Yes, she'll be the grandmother at this point, right?

Yeah. All right, well, we'll see. Twisters coming to theaters July 19th All right And next up Are you ready, Lance, to go back to the franchise of Planet of the Apes? Always, yes, always ready for that.

This one I'm pretty excited about. I think they did a really good job with the new movie, the one that had Franco and Lithgow in it at the beginning that was kind of going back to how it all began. And I thought from there, they've only gotten, you know, gotten better. And I like the way that this one seems to kind of like match it up with a lot of the 60s and early 70s movies. You know, kind of you're, you can see where the timeline's coming in here. So I'm pretty excited, Brian, to answer your question.

Yeah. I like, I like where the story's going because the point that they were getting across through the previous three movies where apes stick together. Right. Apes together strong. But this one, you got one that's kind of going against the whole enslaving humans saying that's wrong also. And there's a line that he doesn't say apes stick together. He says we stick together.

He's talking about apes and people. So I like, I like the change in story. And I'm trying to see is that Caesar's son or descendant? Well, I mean, it seems like this, obviously this is way beyond, you know, the events of the first movie, right? Because, you know, look how much society's changed already. So it's got to be a descendant, maybe son, maybe even grandson, you know? Yeah, all it says in the synopsis, it just says many years later. Okay, which makes sense, right?

because you can't really, you can't have that much change and expect people to swallow that it's only been 20 years, right? Yeah. Let's see. Kevin Duran. Not Kevin Duran. Not Kevin Durant. Kevin Duran will play the villain, which is named Proximus Caesar. Maybe that's the descendant of Caesar.

That would make sense. Proximus means close too, right? So, or offspring of or whatever. the main ape that someone we're following is played by O&T and that ape is named Noah we got William H. Macy is in this movie.

What? The main girl that we're seeing is Freya Allen. The only thing I know her from is the Witcher. Yeah, I started that and I tried to read a couple of the books, but I just couldn't get into it. Yeah, I think I think I only seen the first season.

And I heard it completely falls apart of the second season. Right. I'm sure it does. I couldn't tell you. I gave up. And this is directed by West Ball, who is known for the Maze Runner movies. Oh, boy. Wow.

Which I've only seen a couple of them, and I thought they were pretty decent movies. Okay. I never was into the books. I was never into the book, so I know there's a big movie. bigger fan base there. All right, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. I like it. May 10th.

Not too far from here. Not at all. Not at all. All right. Our lone horror slash sci-fi movie, A Quiet Place Day One. All right. This stars Joseph Quinn,

our new Johnny Storm. Demand Honsu, who is making, he's the, his character's returning. Remember Lance, he was at the end of a quiet place too. He was with that group of people on that island. Oh, we're going to get to see how they ended up there then. Okay. Yeah.

Which, when you get these prequel movies, it kind of tells you stuff maybe you didn't need to know or you didn't want to know or stuff you already know. Because the main star of this movie is La Pita Nyango, which I think is great. I think she's a great actress, but it's a possibility we already know she dies because she's not in, she's not with De Mon Hansu's character.

That doesn't mean necessarily she dies though, right? I mean, she might have just gone elsewhere. Anything's possible. She dies. Ah, okay. All right, well, I mean, she was able to fight zombies and little monsters, so

who knows? That's true. This is directed by Michael Sarnaski. He is known for Pig. Oh, wow. I did hear. Wow, what a choice, huh?

Yeah. So, I am excited for this movie. I'm a fan of the first two. I'm glad we're getting a different perspective. To try not

to make the comparison, to Walking Dead, but I have to. It's kind of like... It's kind of like we're getting... This movie is like the fear of the Walking Dead. We're getting a whole different group of characters in a different location. That'll eventually bleed over at some point, right?

As we already know. And one thing I'm looking forward to, I hope we get a little bit more on the aliens than that they're just here. Well, it looked like it in the trailer, didn't it? I mean, they had them falling out of the sky. and everything. Well, we kind of got that in The Quiet Place, too.

Oh, boy. Okay, so I'm getting a little too excited then. Yeah. I just, maybe just a little small bit of information and why they're here or what their purpose is here. And that's all you got to give you. Just a little bit at a time. You don't have to give me the whole thing.

Mm-hmm. But, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think the who I listed off in the cast has got a great cast. And I think John Krasinski is also involved with writing the story. Okay. Yeah, it kind of makes sense. It's his baby. Yeah.

So I think this one's going on the schedule. So we'll be talking about it here soon. Yeah, on or off the schedule, Brian. You know we're going to be watching it. So it's going to be a must watch for sure. All right. June 28th. Wow, a lot of, all these movies are kind of around the same time.

Yeah. We're back to normal when, when you're talking about movie, movie lineups. Yeah, some are blockbusters, right? All right, the big trailer of the week. Yeah. The most viewed trailer in YouTube ever. Phantom of the Opera 2. No, Lance.

Okay. Deadpool and Wolverine. And didn't they just title it that? Because wasn't it supposed to be like Deadpool 3 or something? It was Deadpool 3 until the trailer came out. And the end title card was your first. Very nice. Okay, cool.

This star is, of course, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman's back as Wolverine. And rumored to, well, not rumored, confirmed. Jennifer Garner's back as Electra. Nice. Nice. Patrick Stewart is listed in IMDB. Gee, I wonder who he's going to play. A lot of the people we've seen in Deadpool is back. And from all the rumors I'm hearing, if they were, if Fox made a Marvel movie,

those characters are going to be in this movie. Hmm. And I heard a big... Go ahead. No, is this going to be the last hurrah then with Fox or what? Yeah, because it's 20th century studios now. It's not Fox. Okay, gotcha.

All right. And what were you going to say, Ryan? There's a big theory that, well, we're going to get the iconic comic book storyline where Wolverine fights the Hulk. So will it be the Hulk we know from the MCU? there's a theory it neither might be the Eric Banna Hulk or the Oh God

What's his name That was the Hulk before Mark Ruffalo No I Leukeineau No no Oh Okay

Before Mark Ruffalo Edward Norton Oh Edward Norton Okay I'm sorry dude I was going way too far back Showing my age Brian I saw this video breaking down They said they dropped a lot of Hulk Easter eggs throughout the trailer.

Interesting. Interesting. Okay. I could go for that, man. So I heard there's a rumor even Ben Affleck's returning as Daredevil. So, you know, you know who they could. They could bring us the Hulk, right? Technically.

They could get happy Hogan. That's the like the purple Hulk that he turns into and what if? Could be. I mean, we do, we do get the TVA from Loki in here, which I thought is an excellent way to merge the universes. I heard, I heard, yeah, I heard Mobius is going to be in this one. Is that true? Or is that just a rumor? Well, Mobius.

No one Wilson, right? This would have to take place before Loki then, because isn't you like, not Mobius? I don't know. I don't. or I guess we can say it I don't know I don't know dude I guess all bets are off when

you got Deadpool involved right yeah I mean Deadpool might even give a big sloppy kiss to Professor Xavier or something right yeah and I like the fourth wall breaking the Deadpool knows exactly where he is

referring to himself as Marvel Jesus he's here to say the cinematic universe I missed that he said all that in the trailer yeah he said I'm here to say the cinematic or your cinematic universe is going to change forever

and I'm here I am the Messiah I am Marvel Jesus of course of course so it kind of sounds like they know they made mistakes but did they I mean

I mean I mean I mean you say they got too woke Brian no not I would never say that but I would say

this last phase phase four is probably the weakest phase the least popular sure sure and I just think with what they

releasing what we saw on this trailer of the Fantastic Four announcement and the the X-Men

and cartoon series coming back. I think they're taking steps to kind of write the course. Course correct. Of course correct. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited about it, dude. Who wouldn't be, right? Yeah.

And this one we're getting soon, too, July 26. Oh, for some reason I thought it was even sooner. It was May. It was May. God damn. Okay. With the strike, it got pushed. That's right.

Yield strike. Okay. Well, it is what it is. Luckily, it only got pushed that far. Right. All right. So is that it? Is that it for the trailer part?

That is it. We are going to move on to listener feedback. And since it is Valentine's week that we're recording, this week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on In Love with Horror. Welcome to the In Love with Horror Podcast where AJ and Christy dive into the depths of horror. Join us as we explore the chilling world of horror, films, games, and everything in between. We're both passionate horror fans, and we share our thoughts and opinions of the latest horror releases and the classics that continue to haunt us.

In each episode, we delve into their world and the creative process behind some of our favorite horror stories. So join us every week as we bring you our favorite. favorite scares, fascinating insights, and lively debates. That is in love with horror, wherever you hear your horror podcasts. Nice. Regarding, speaking of podcasts, regarding Don and Ellie's, the horror countdown show, Thunder Twunk, I don't think that's your real name, I'm calling you out. Thunder Twonk.

Be awesome if it was. Be pretty cool if it was. Man. This is awesome. I love public domain classics. My local channel as a kid played tons of public domain horror, and I grew up with these kinds of films. Sounds like a match made in heaven with Don,

wouldn't you agree, Brian? Absolutely. Regarding Massacre at Central High, Neil Lamois says, Great Revenge Flick, and the Blu-ray looks amazing. Can't ask for more than that. Oh, Zim Vader has to chime in, Brian. regarding suitable flesh which you've seen and I still haven't but I understand it's on

shutter now yep all right so I don't have any excuse not to but Zem said you had me at Bruce Davison did not even know he was in there Brian yeah Bruce Davison Heather Graham Barbara crampton and it's okay it's a body horror movie mixed with you remember the soft core porn type movies they used to come on cinemax in other words skinimax brine skinnick it just think of one of those type of movies mixed with a body

horror body swap movie I'm imagining it right now and I can't wait to see it a lot of a lot of sexy time with heather graham hmm what about barbara crampton

not as much as I would like to see but okay she she has a moment in there okay that's cool man um all right regarding saw x i 11 i guess madison estes says yay all right we got more from zambrian regarding bloom house setting up an upcoming exhibit at the stanley hotel in estes park is that a real thing yep they are doing a horror exhibit at the hotel that's where the shining is based. And I'll bet they're going to charge for it because when AJ and I went in 2019, we walked in and they won't even let you pass the velvet ropes unless you've got a,

you know, unless you're actually paying to stay at the hotel. So we couldn't like walk around and take pictures and stuff. So this is probably a chance for them to let those fans in and still make a buck, you know? Yeah, sounds like it. so zim says when they when they change their name to bum house i'll start to give a fuck oh is it that bad somebody must uh somebody i was about to say someone must saw night swim wow don't worry don't worry lands it's brutal it'll get knocked out of your top i it's already almost out and i've only seen two movies so um all right our show intro and all of our

Oh, wait, wait, wait. I got some more feedback. Oh, yes. Give it to me, man. We need more feedback. This is ridiculous. We're not getting any. Okay. First, I posted about a new horror movie that sounds like it's basically a new horror movie coming to Netflix.

That sounds basically like that movie totally killer, the time travel slasher. Okay. All right. It's called Time Cut. And we had some people. respond to it. Okay. Our friend Tavares said this movie is going to be like Totally Killer.

That's what it sounds like, right? Kay Jack 33 on Instagram said there's already a movie like that. It's called Totally Killer. Okay. Sounds like people aren't buying it. Let's see. I posted a picture of Rebecca Ferguson as Rose the Hat. Our friend Kate.

everybody knows Kate if you don't know Kate you're not looking at the posting is when I post their show every week Kate says I adore this film and Rose the Hat is one of the best modern day villains

yeah agreed well done and I posted a throwback pick of Robert England and Miko Hughes from West Craven's New Nightmare in binge movies at home video says I want to horror movie that is a secret new nightmare sequel halfway through the movie where Robert

England returns do you think we'll ever get that right um if we're getting Robert England back one more time is Freddie Kruger I think it won't be a secret do you think we're going to get Grandpa Krueger old man Krueger do we do we want that I mean unless they're going to deage him or something. He's not a spring chicken. I mean, it's makeup. Right. That's true. Who am I kidding, right? They can do anything in Hollywood.

Let's see. I think that is it as far as extra. Yep, that's it. All right. So our show intro and all of our new logos come from Steve Carlton of the Geeks. If you'd like to help the show, consider becoming a Patreon patron. You know what to do.

Give us five bucks or more, and you can have a commentary and pick the movies, and just give us a dollar or more, and you pick three. Is it still three movies, Brian, or two now? If you're a patron, you get to pick three movies. As regular scheduling for our show, we don't do the three movies no more, because that was a lot to review in one podcast. But for the patrons, we definitely will. All right.

Well, and that being said, I think it's time for our featured attractions, Brian. Yep. We are going to start with Frankenstein, 1931's Frankenstein. It's alive. It's alive. It's alive. Something is going to happen. I feel it.

I can't get it out of my mind. Dr. Henry Frankenstein is obsessed with assembling a living being from parts of several exhumed corpses. This is directed by James Whale, also known for the invisible man in Bride of Frankenstein, writer John L. Baldurston, Mary Shelley, and Peggy Wembling. While preparing for the film, the scene where monster attacks, the monster attacks Elizabeth, May Clark admitted to Boris Karloff that she was worried that when she saw him in full makeup coming towards her, she might be really frightened. Karloff told her that throughout the scene,

he would wiggle his pinky finger out of sight of camera so that despite the horrific makeup, she would always see her friend Boris waving at her and letting her know that she was safe. Now, that smacks of urban legend, Brian. Come on. That doesn't sound true. Scared of somebody in makeup, really?

well it's a different time boys and girls right different time and they might have kept them apart and up until the time of filming they might have been like here's boris the monster right Lance start us all yes oh man this this uh this is going way back right is this like the well this isn't the first universal horror movie or is it i don't know know. I think there are a couple before this one. Yeah, it's, it's kind of bizarre to like think of, you know, the fact that this was what literally almost 100 years ago, like we're coming up on 100 years that this film came out. And I wonder what movie theaters were like back then, Brian. Can you imagine? Because I think they had like, it was more of an event back then, of course,

like people would get dressed up. I don't think you would wear like a full tuxedo and stuff like that, but I think, you know, men would wear hats. You know, women would wear like a dress and get all dolled up. And I think guys would like wear a suit. But I know you have like most of the theaters back then, you would have like a general admission seating, but you'd have a balcony section.

And I know I could just, can you imagine how much fucking, you know, cigarette and cigar smoke. I mean, if you think that cigar smoke was irritating in Cape Fear, could you even imagine being a non-smoker and going into an event like this, Brian Beck in the day? Yeah. I don't know if it was the cigar smoke that was the problem in Cape Fear. Yeah, that's true.

Maybe the laughing. Yeah, it was. it's just interesting dude I was for some reason when I was watching this movie this time it was like I was kind of like trying to visualize what the reception would have been when something like this

came out and I and I do you know I kid a little bit saying well that sounds like an urban legend with her saying she was scared when she saw them in makeup but you know people really didn't they weren't exposed to that back then like we're super jaded now

you know we get We get pissed off when they don't show enough gore, right? And back then they were like, you know, I'm sure people were much more superstitious. Folks didn't live as long. People fell prey to illness and couldn't get as quick of a turnaround as we do now. You know, like we just, the wife and I just came off, you know, COVID again, you know. We're lucky enough that was our first time since it first came out. But I can tell you it was, Brian, it was no more fun the second.

second time than the first. But AJ, bless her heart, dude. She actually tested positive for COVID as well as the other flu virus. I can't think of what it's called, but just let's just say the flu, right? So she had like two strains of illness at once, and she's still kind of reeling from that. And back then, dude, you got something like that. You're just done. They didn't have all the medications and stuff like that and antibiotics. So, Just a completely different, you know, different times. So I could see how this would, you know, be considered very frightening to people. I will say that James Whale, his talent kind of shows here.

And I guess he's kind of got a sense of humor if he did The Invisible Man, because they had that one scene where he was giggling and running away from people and stuff. But I did notice one thing in a couple of the scenes, particularly when some of the characters were talking with each other. That like before this movie, a lot of the older films that I saw, they would just have like one stationary camera somewhere. And you'd have characters. It's more like, you know, like just a camera that happened to be at a play,

a stage play. And you'd have characters, you know, walk across the screen or, you know, do their dialogue. But the camera would kind of just stay where it was at. In this one, there was a lot of panning, I noticed, of the camera. There was one scene in particular I noticed where it was, you know, the, I guess our, you know, protagonist as well as his love interest. So they were having a dialogue. And the camera would, I didn't even notice it at first, Brian.

It was so sublime. Like, the camera started kind of far away across the room. And as they continued talking, the camera just got closer and closer to him. And you didn't see that a lot in movies before. before this one. So I think, you know, whale was pretty revolutionary with some of this stuff. And it's just kind of ironic that it was in horror movies, which many people consider kind of like for the lower classes, you know, versus like a drama or a romantic film or something like that. So, you know, these horror movies definitely paved, paved the way for a lot of, you know, big, big changes in

Hollywood and the way that movies are filmed. I thought, what the hell is that noise, dude? Can you hear that? Yeah, sorry about that. Are you cleaned in your keyboard? No. That sounded like the, like when you've got that pressurized air can. Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, so I would say that, like, the story and whatnot was really good. At least, Brian, the fire that was in toward the end when, like, the windmill was on fire was not CGI.

Would you agree with me? Yeah, but also that fire was. by the wind with them people weren't next to that way no and it was what I would say it was definitely a like a scale model wouldn't you think it was like they put it looked like they had they put fire to something that was

about three inches tall so they did some movie magic for sure but it's a classic story I enjoyed it I don't think I enjoyed as much as you know what they did with bride of Frankenstein where they kind of like brought a love interest in and made it a little bit more personal for the monster and not just the humans. But yeah, like that part where the guys walking through carrying his daughter that

was thrown into the water was kind of, you know, I would say chilling. Like that was, that was definitely a frightening scene. And that was, you know, well done. It's chilling, but kind of seeing it now is kind of comical well you know what surprised me of course you've seen young Frankenstein yes so I thought the I thought the assistant was named Igor but in this one he definitely wasn't right his name was Fritz but Fritz I remember Dr. Frankenstein being Victor not Henry I do too well I guess that it was changed for the movie okay so what did what did you think of this one brian it sounds like you're you're not you're not terribly sold on it uh i think out of anything to standout performance is

boris carloff okay because he's both frightening and innocent because he's kind of childlike at times fascinated by thanks but then sure when he gets pushed to the edge he he'll he'll turn on you he'll snap Yeah, and I think we see that throughout the movie He's did he was there a part was there a part in there where he said Don't push me because I'm close to the edge Probably when they kept bringing fire around him Yeah, it didn't take long to get to stir up the the mob did it

And there was there was quite a bit I thought I remembered of this movie that I didn't re-watching it because I don't remember Fritz, aka Igor. I don't remember him dying. I thought he made it to the sequel, dude, and like a whole bunch of other movies for some reason.

Like, we're just remembering. Is this the Mandela effect, Brian? It might be, because I don't remember him being, was he hung off screen? I'm thinking Deadpool pulled us into another alternate dimension here. Because you and I both remember it the same way. Yeah. I don't remember him dying, and I don't remember him being called Fritz either.

I don't even remember him. Like I said, I don't remember Dr. Frankenstein being Henry. I surely don't remember his father being involved. What was it? The Baron. The Baron. Yeah, I don't remember that. Man, for an hour and ten minute movie, they got a lot of characters in here, didn't they?

Yeah. And they, they, for the time that the movie is, they, they, they told a lot of story in that short amount of time. They did. And I think they told it well, right? Don't, don't you agree that at least the story structure was good? Yeah. Um, sorry. Oh, you're cooking a burrito, aren't you? I can hear it. Oh, man. You know, you know who would have been great to cameo in this? movie brand? Who?

In the mob scene, Beavis and Butthead. You could have had Beavis going, ah, ha, ha, ha, fire. Fire. Oh, the other one changed this movie completely. They need to Deadpool this one, man. Like, do the alternate dimensions

or something. That'd be great. Like, mix them together. Beavis and Budhead meet Frankenstein. I'm trying to think if there was any real, because this movie was super, it felt fast. an hour and ten minutes.

Did it? Because it just went from scene to scene. You get introduced to Dr. Frankenstein. He digs up the body. He needs body parts. He needs the brain. They get the brain. Well, they get the brain they didn't want.

Yes. That was kind of silly, wasn't it? I don't think it works like that from a physics standpoint, you know? I think that's probably one of the biggest take. ways is I remember a lot more kind of slow moving storytelling than there was actually

yeah I you're right it was herky jerky wasn't it yeah but I mean it's still a good watch it's a classic yeah I agree and you know like I said that that scene I knew it was coming where he threw the little girl into the lake but it's I don't know to me it was kind of

shocking. I don't know if it's because I have a granddaughter that's right out about that age. And I kind of visualized that. And then same thing, like I said, when the, you know, the father that was like basically in rags and pauper pants was dragging the daughter

through the holding her and walking through the streets. You know, hey, you know, blood of the monster and all that stuff. That kind of broke my heart a little bit. I thought it was fairly well done, man. Yeah. He was just trying to see if she floated. yeah well she didn't

it's kind of like Natalie wood didn't float yeah she must have never learned swim I'm assuming oh rough rough stuff all right scores oh I get to go first I will give this one a seven and a half

it's um for for for for it's time and for what it was I thought it was, it was very well done. Now, you've got me kind of thinking about it. They do kind of, you know, jerk you through the storyline pretty quickly. But, you know, I think about some of the things that were done with camera angles. And like you said, a lot of the acting on the part of the monster is something you're never going to forget. So I'll give it seven and a half.

Yeah, I think I'm right there with you seven and a half. I just I'm kind of shocked that how much that I remember is not how the movie actually went. I know.

It's funny. The characters, how fast the movie went. Sure. But Boris Karloff just standout performance, like I said, at the same time,

he was childlike and scary at the same time. He was able to pull that off. A lot of iconic scenes. I mean, we joked about the little girl being thrown in, but that's such an iconic scene. Like, I think most people, that and the It's a Live scene, I think if you've never seen Frankenstein, you still know those scenes. Sure, sure. And I do agree with you great use of the camera angles that were in there.

James Whale, James Whale, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. He definitely knew what he was doing back then. And I looked it up. Dracula came before this one. Okay.

Okay. Same year. Well, one throwback, Brian, that I know you will definitely appreciate because you were a huge fan of this movie last Halloween. But that opening scene where they're doing the grave robbing, Munster's Rob Zombie remake was a total scene for scene. parody of that. Am I right? I've totally blocked that movie from my mind.

All right. All right. Let's move on to our new movie. This is only our second new movie of the year? Well, I hate to say it, dude.

But we were just talking about my COVID experience. It kind of kept me out of the theater, dude. So this is going to be another onesie. All right, let me get through... I really want to see it. I love the screenwriter.

Let me get through the trivia. I'm very curious. I can't do that. Not until we bury the body. Lisa Frankenstein, 2004, a coming of raged love story about a teenager and her crush who happens to be a corpse

after a set of horrific circumstances bring him back to life. the two embark on the journey to find love, happiness, and a few missing body parts. Directed by Zelda Williams, also known for Kappa Kappa Dai, writer Diablo Cody, also known for Jennifer's body in Juneau. Feature to directorial debut of Zelda Williams, daughter Robin Williams. To prepare for the role of the creature, Cole Sprouse trained with a movement coach and Mime coach Lauren Eric Salman

for several months in Los Angeles Salm, I think that's how you pronounce it, help Sprouse develop the creature's movement and because the character doesn't speak in the film he used mime techniques to help Sprouse learn to express his thoughts, emotions, and personality entirely non-verbally. So kind of like Art the Clown.

Art the Clown. Miming, yeah? Okay. So since you did not see this, we're going to forego spoilers, and I'm just going to give you my initial thoughts. Makes sense. I really enjoyed this film. I didn't love it. It did have its problems. Okay.

Mostly, it's because not all the comedy works for me. Was it kind of dry? Or kind of like British comedy? Not really. It's just, I'm really kind of, when it comes to movies, I'm probably a little bit more harder on comedies. Because sometimes not all comedies work for me. Understandable.

But I will say if you're a fan of Diablo Cody's writing, this is for you. And I am. This is definitely for you. All right. So a lot of dialogue then, right? A lot of dialogue. Okay.

Catherine Newton, who plays Lisa, I thought she did a phenomenal job in it. She plays that kind of weird, quirky, morbidly, just outcast, just all those things apply. Kind of like the hot goth chick. Yeah. Cole Spouse, which I thought I didn't know who he was, but my daughter had to tell me he was. he was one of the twins that played the little boy in uh adam sandless big daddy that's a deep cut but okay and then she she also said he was jughead in the the riverdale show which oh yes okay a j has seen all of those okay i thought he did a fantastic job he kind of emoted

what he wanted to say and feel without having to actually use words and I thought he did an excellent job with that

mm-hmm a interesting way of doing a Frankenstein movie with the I thought it was a good way to explain how he came back well not how he came back of

right I'm trying not to spoil it Definitely a different take on the creation of this monster and his progression through the movie. Was there lightning or electricity involved? There was, but... Okay. How he progresses throughout the movie, it was definitely an interesting take.

Let's just say, if this is spoilers, I'm sorry, but let's just say... I guess we're going to have to spoil it a little bit. i mean it's just you're the only one who's seen the movie man in the original frankenstein movie he was already had his body parts he needed and in this movie okay okay his body parts and a contraption they used to attach his body parts is very hysterical and very 80s use of a contraption. I'll just leave it at that. Was it phallic or no? Oh, he's, okay, spoiler on that one.

Yes, he does need that body part. Okay. They do go get that body part. I was kind of, as soon as you said in that, in that summary, you know, some missing body parts, I'm like, uh-oh. I think I know where this is going. Like I said, some of the comedy did work for me. Like, it's in the trailer. The, when she's going to play him music, she said, I'm going to play, I'm going to play the cure.

And then he gets excited. And she was like, no, not that kind of cure. The band. Yeah. Little stuff like that is kind of that quirky Diablo Cody writing. Yes, definitely. A lot of that work for me. It's just some of the ways it was delivered didn't work for me.

Okay, I could see that. Carla Gagino played the mom, the stepmom, the evil stepmom. I kind of wanted more of her in this movie. We all do. I don't blame me for that. And interesting, this is not a spoiler because this was said before the movie came out.

Diablo Cody has said that this takes place in the same universe as Jennifer's body. How so? Do they talk about knowing each other or what? Well, I don't think other than her saying that there's a connection. I think that's the only thing because this takes place in the 80s. Ah, okay. All right. So, yeah, different time frame then. But evil, sexy succubuses and reanimated corpses do live in a second.

Make their appearance? Okay. Interesting. Okay. I mean, I wanted to see it. I just didn't get a chance to make it out there. And I didn't want to show up and make everybody sick or just like start coughing halfway through the movie. Yeah, like I said, don't take my down in the comedy any way of saying that you shouldn't go see this. I thought the acting was fine. If you're a fan of Diablo Cody, I thought this was a great, what was it, a directorial debut. I know she did some short films, but I really like what Zelda Williams did.

I think she's super talented director. I like the way the movie looked. You kind of got that 80s gothic feel from some of the set pieces. And also the contrast

of her, because her family is that typical suburban sitcom type family. And then you got the contrast I'm being this weird kid that likes to hang out in the cemeteries. And there are times in the movie it does get dark, which I kind of like that. It kind of just changed things up at times. Okay.

So I definitely do recommend seeing it. And if I had to give it a score, give it a kind of bouncing between a six and a half, seven. Okay. Not too bad, man. Not night swim, right? In other words. No. No. Okay. So the movies

are going only up from Night's win, Brian? I mean, if I remember what my score was, there's nowhere to go, but. That's kind of what I was thinking, too, dude. I think you're, I think you gave it a similar score with what Philip gave Black Christmas

if I remember. I don't think I went negative. No. I think I gave. I might have gave. He gave it a one, dude. Yeah. okay so there's nowhere to go literally a one all right man well is that it then yeah yeah like i said if you're a fan of diablo cody you want to see a great effort from someone's directorial

debut then check it out all right and then this will tie us over until we get uh deadpool and wolverine i guess too we got what is the next new movie we got I think it's kind of it. Oh, no. I'm just trying to see when the next new movie is. Well, I'm going to go, tomorrow I'm going to go see the Bob Marley

movie. That's coming out. But not horror. They're not great for that movie either. Oh, no. Don't say that. Don't say that. Our next new movie is imaginary.

There you go. The PG-13. imaginary. Hey, it could be good. Megan was PG-13. Anything's possible, right, Brian? I'm kind of hoping that imaginary is this year's Megan. That'd be great, but not likely, but anything's possible.

Yeah. All right. Well, look, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. And Brian heating up his burrito. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. And what is our website, Brian? Thehorror returns.com.

That almost makes sense, right? When you think about it? Glad it was available. Next week, we're going to ask that age-old question. Is it really that bad? Brian's specialty when he's writing our schedule is to give us, is it really that bad movies. Thank you, Brian.

You're a trooper. Thank you. But this is going to have a twist because it is the remake edition with one missed call and cabin fever. I've never seen either one of those. Me neither.

We'll have a special guest. Adam Thomas will be making his return. Very nice. Dude, what in the world possessed Adam to do this particular show. We will find out. I sent him the schedule, and he

specifically was like put me down for that one. Wow. He must really, really, really, really love one of these remakes, man. Or he might be going to complete opposite. Definitely possible. So, Brian,

until the horror returns again, good night. Thank you.