The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #408: Benny Loves You (2018) & Imaginary (2024)

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

This week we check out the brand-new Imaginary as well as the British horror comedy Benny Loves You. Cool of the week includes Lisa Frankenstein, The Messiah, and Road House. Trailers are The Acolyte, Arcadian, Late Night with the Devil, Alien: Romulus, The Crow, and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. The podcast spotlight shines on The More Deadly Podcast and Plug it Up! And we get listener feedback from Matt Wood, Xim Vader, Cameron Sullivan, Tim Davis, Joseph Rogers Lee, Shane Hallmark, Sam Castanier, Almada Lee, and Jordan von Netzer. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance. We got Philip and Brian, as always. You guys knocked it out of the park last week, helping host our March Madness. Really appreciate it, guys. Did we host? Yeah, I think it was. Well, it was all.

The real thing says that Heather. She, she, she's the one that knocked it out of the park. She, she did the damn thing. Yeah, for sure. Me and Phil was just there along for the ride. Definitely a podcast for a, hey, that's what I do, man. I show up and I talk. And I will say she probably was selling the horror returns more in that episode than we probably did ever.

Oh, yeah, for sure. And we definitely appreciate them all coming on. They were a great group of girls and Pedro. Pedro knows movies, man. That's for damn sure. Oh, yeah. He's always fun. All right.

All right, well, shit, we got a lot to cover tonight. For one thing, we've got Brian, the old trailer Roundup. Yes. We need to do the sounders, huh? A lot of trailers. Two big ones dropped today and yesterday as we're recording. Yeah. That would be exciting.

And a really big movie drops tomorrow. Can't wait to go see Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, right? Oh, yeah. Are you guys? Are you guys interested in that Immaculate with Sidney's Queenie? Yes. Like they are pushing the hell out of that best horror movie of the movie of the movie. the year. Best horror movie in

the past 10 years. I don't know about that. Yeah. That's going to be a hard. I only heard one bad review and it wasn't a bad review. It was just said it was just an okay non-exploitation movie, but everybody says Sidney

like just kills it in this movie. She seems to be the new it girl. No kidding. Does she get topless? That's the question. I mean, if it's none's exploitation as a possibility

somebody's getting topless. At least that's the beam. I don't know. I'm not entirely sure if I've even seen Sidney and really anything except a couple of episodes of Euphoria.

I've watched her in something this week that is going to be a not-so-cool of the week. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Madam Webb. Oh, that's right.

Or I couldn't be wrong. Well, Sidney, is supposed to be the only part, the good part of that movie, right? Yeah, sure. I don't know. We'll get to it. All right. And we will, so let's jump in.

I'll go first. Cool of the week, Philip, while you think. Yes. You've got a couple of choices. So, Brian, I finally saw it, dude. I wasn't there for you the week re-recorded, but I made up for it. Oh.

Lisa Frankenstein. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Did you, have you seen it, Philip? I saw most of it. But to be fair, it was on a bad copy, but about halfway through the movie, I was fucking bored. Really? Yeah.

I kind of dug it. I kind of dug it, man. And not necessarily the story of the, because, yeah, they'd make no mistake. You probably left right when it started falling apart. Probably. But I definitely respected the way it was filmed. I like the color palette choices that they made. A lot of that good Diablo-Codey back-and-forth dialogue.

It's very Diablo-Code. I think it's going to end up going the way of Jennifer's body of how it's getting more appreciation now than it did when it originally came out. I think it's going to slowly build like a cult following. Yeah, see, that's one. I didn't get the chance to go to the theater, so I had like a pirated crap copy, man. And I kind of want to...

I actually do want to watch a real copy of it. Oh, it's out there now. Yeah. Yeah, I saw a really nice copy, Philip. Okay. Check it out. So, yeah, but no, it had colors popped. It definitely felt 80s retro.

It had that, it had all those 80 cliches, right? Like, the parents are idiots. You know, nobody understands me. You know, I'm an angry teenager, you know, and all that shit. But I just thought it was filmed really well. And I don't know. It was, I'll say I liked it. I'll say I liked it better than the, what was the swimming pool thing we saw.

Oh, yeah. And I gave that a six. Oh, night swim. Wow. Night swim. Night swim. I've already forgotten. Oh, damn.

And whose daughter's in that? Is that Robin Williams' daughter? No, Robin Williams' daughter, what's her name, Zelda Williams. She directed. Oh, okay. That's not the person that was in it. No, that's Catherine Newton. She was in Freaky. Oh, right, right.

She's an Ant Man's daughter. That's right. Yeah, I like her. Yeah. She's got a good career in front of her. Kind of like Sidney, Phillip. And the guy that plays the Frankenstein creature-type character, my daughter had to point out that that's

one of the twins from that Disney show is that sweet life with Zach and Cody oh man yeah that was that's a throwback there man that was after my time yeah I didn't know what she was talking about this time Adam Sand the movie

Big Daddy because both twins played the same role oh is that those same kids yeah so really? Okay that I didn't know I knew that, I knew they were twins that played that role, but yeah, no, I didn't know as them. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. It's, if it's worth to watch, it's worth to watch, dude. If you can get a good copy of it and just, I was just shocked by how good the photography was, the camera work and the set design and everything. So, I don't know, for a first time director. But, you know, it is Robin Williams' daughter, right? So I'm sure she has lots of talent, like, born into her, right? Yeah, or at least some connections.

Or at least some connections. So maybe it's like, did she really direct it type thing? Who knows, right? Well, I mean, I'm sure she had help, but, you know, yeah, Robin Williams is a brilliant guy. All right, do you think of your cool, Philip? Wait, wait, wait, I want to, you never talked about Dune. I was going to ask about that, actually, because I haven't seen it yet. Did you see it?

Yeah, I saw it open. day, man. Is it awesome? How was it? Oh, man. I don't like that answer. No, I did not like it as good as part one. I thought it dragged in places. Now, it was a lot closer to the book than

the first movie, the one with Steen, but you get Sting's character. And it's kind of interesting who plays, you know, that particular character. Well, that movie, they mashed a whole bunch into one movie. Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Yeah, this was a lot.

lot more true to the novel, but as a result, it had a few slow moments, which I almost found myself nodding out, Brian. Oh. Well, I mean, the first one wasn't exactly fast-paced. Yeah, a lot of character development and stuff like that, but I don't know. A lot of world building. Mm-hmm. I expected a little bit more, I guess, but, you know, it is what it is.

I enjoyed it. I'm glad I went. Well, and I'm super excited about it, but we're like, what, two years removed from the first one? I think that's part of the problem. Yeah. I really did. I kind of lost track of it. That's why I haven't got to see it.

Sounds like from Denny Villanui or however you say his name. It sounds like it'll be a while before the third one will come out because he wants to do other stuff, which is understandably because this franchise is taking. of years of his life. Okay, so they're going to do Children of Dune next, Brian? I don't know what book they're going to do. He says he is writing the third

one, but he's writing it in his time. He's not rushing to do it because he has other projects that he kind of put to the side, which I mean, I guess it's fine. It's not like, what's his name, Timothy Chalameh. It's not like he's

gonna age much. It looks like he's 12 years old. Yeah. Well, and I think he's, I don't know, maybe if he's oversaturated. Well, one of the movies that I was actually going to talk about was Wanka. Oh.

Oh, there we go. I kind of didn't like it. Oh, no. Yeah. Was it the scene? Well, no, it was like, I don't know, man. Because Timothy Shalame, I think he pulled off a pretty good, uh,

young Gene Wilder. Young Willie. Yeah, well, like, he sort of captured that character a little bit, but it didn't really fit in this movie. Because it was more of a musical silly sweet thing. Then, like, the first one was a little dark, man. Yeah, there was some, I remember as a child. I love that movie.

I've seen it millions of times as a child, but there was some parts where it was just kind of frightening. Yeah. And I think maybe he was trying to do a little bit more of an impression of Gene Wilder than actually being the character. Oh, no. I don't know. And the songs were not memorable. And it was, I don't know, there wasn't much of an arc in the movie.

It was kind of cheesy to me. Did they at least have the oompa lupas in there? They had an umpalumpa. Oh, no. Oh, only one? Hugh Grant. Hugh Grant. And he was very tiny.

Like, like, fairy tiny. Yeah, I remember seeing that in the trailer. I was like, why is he so much smaller than the ones in the original? Do they get bigger? Because this is a prequel, so do they get bigger as time goes on? Yeah, no. Apparently Wanka took their only cocoa beans,

which was expressed through a quick story. and, uh, because they only had like four. And, uh, he was, he was sent to get them back plus tenfold because that's their umpalupa tradition or whatever. I don't know. It didn't make a whole lot of sense. Hey. Hey.

Not awesome. I, I almost watched it this thing. I saw it's on max. Oh, you're going to fucking hate it because it's, it's a full-blown. Oh, yeah. I was going to watch it because my, my daughter is a big. fan of Timothy Chalemay, but she

was like, I don't want to watch this. Well, there you go. She's a big, she's really against, like, prequels and remakes. Hey, raise a good one. I found out she really hates Jenna Ortega.

Really? She thinks she's just in too many things because I was like, she's in Beetlejuice too and she was like, I don't care. I ain't watching it. Oh, no. She makes sense in that movie, I think. But we'll talk about that in the trailers, I guess.

Yeah. And the only other, I know that I watched a bunch of shit because we didn't really go over cool the week last week. And so I've got a whole laundry list of stuff, but I can't remember any of them off the top of my head. So the one that I'm going to say is the most recent thing that I watched is a series on Netflix called The Messiah. And it's got Michelle Monaghan in it.

Oh. Yeah. So, like a new Jesus figure pops up in Syria and, like, travels across the U.S. and he's gaining a whole lot of traction, like social media-wise, and people are following him and stuff. And the CIA is after him. Michelle Monaghan is a CIA character. And she's investigating him and finds out that maybe he's not who he says he is. so it's pretty interesting it's not bad sounds like it yeah so that's all i got this week

all right right let us have it last week this is just a quick one last week i watched the entire i didn't watch it watch it i had it on in the background the entire leprecha franchise for st patrick's day Oh, that's a lot And I will have to say Warwick Davis is a national treasurer Oh, for sure And I wouldn't mind We'll talk about some leprechaun news

In horror headlines But I wouldn't mind him coming back Oh yeah I don't think they should Ever give that role to anybody but him Let's see when Don Annelli was on here, he talked

about an independent horror movie called St. Patrick's Day. Yes, yes. I can't say the name of the tagline because they, just like he said, they said it in the movie and I couldn't remember what it was. Yeah.

It's not good. Oh, no. Some of the makeup effects were pretty cool for what it was. but the acting and I just couldn't get past the acting and then I couldn't figure out the location were they in Ireland or they in America and it just maybe that was by design yeah that one's on to be if anybody wants to check it out of course it is of course it is okay now the bigger movies I've seen.

I saw Aquaman in the last kingdom. No? It's fine. That's my problem. Is it? Okay. All right. Wait, just let me finish. Let me finish. That's been my problem with the DC movies is

I've always came out saying, it's okay. Yeah. It's not bad. Understood. Gotcha. The big problem with this movie is the tone. certain parts it wanted to go dark like the character of Black Manta played by

I can't ever see if I could get it Yahia after I'm saying that. Right. The guy that played the new Candyman. What's his name? Yahya Abdul Matine. Oh, okay. He's saying it three times, Philip?

No. He's awesome as Black Manta. But he was in a whole different movie than the others, wasn't he? Jason Mamoa was in a different movie than everybody else. I don't know. They tried to put more comedy in it. I don't know if they knew that this was the end of this current DC run.

So they just didn't give a fuck. Because I've heard stories that he was like fucking drunk. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. Well, he hasn't had to be like tequila line or vodka line, doesn't he? Yeah. like that. I haven't heard

disappears for large amounts of the movie. I'm sorry, what? Amber Hurd disappears for large amounts of the movie and I know why she got cut out of the movie. She had to be at trial.

She had to be at trial, Brian. Oh, no, she filmed. They just cut it out in the movie. Oye. Because they're so worried about what everybody thinks. And it honestly, it just kind of hurt the movie. I'm just like,

I figured it would. Where the fuck did she go for 45 minutes? Like unless you're going to completely recast her, you can't just cut her out of the movie. Right, right. It just tonally, it just was like, it starts out. Like, I'm just like, am I watching a fucking comedy? What the fuck's going on here?

And then something kind of cool will happen. Something kind of dark will happen. Then I go right back to, am I watching a fucking comedy again? That was the theatrical release of Justice League, man. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So that was.

That was the end of the DCEU. That was the final movie. So everything else is James Gunn's new vision. So fingers crossed. Good. You know what? That's the way you restart it. You're like, okay, cut everything.

We're starting from scratch. Yeah. Marvel, you listening? Oh, well, we talk about one of the trailers. I'll have something to say about Marvel. Okay. Speaking of Marvel, I checked out probably the

worst Marvel, the worst comic book. One of the worst movies I've probably ever seen, and that was Madam Webb. Oh, no. No. There's been some shitty Marvel movies.

This is the biggest waste of fucking time. This is, this movie's not even fine. It's not even fun to make fun of. Oh no. Lance, your girl, Dakota Johnson. Right. She fucking phoned it

in. It's like she fucking knew what she was in from the moment she got the script and just sleptwalk through the entire fucking movie. They introduced three spider women characters. I don't know why there's

three spider women, spider girl. characters that exist in the same timeline. Okay. But you only see them in costume in visions. What? Up to probably maybe five minutes of screen time. Oh, no. That's not cool.

And this is, I'm going to spoil it. So if anybody gets mad, sorry. Go ahead, I'm probably, even with Dakota and Sydney, I'm probably never going to see it. Well, because what's one of the other words? worst, you know, comic book movies that they did with the strong female the catwoman.

Stop it. Stop it. The high point of that was the costume. Yeah. Don't forget the... Go ahead. I was going to say, don't forget the old made-for-TV Captain America where he was riding around on a motorcycle in the 70s.

I'd rather watch that. This movie makes no sense. And okay, this is the part I'm going to spoil. This takes place before Peter Parker is born because Dakota Johnson's character. No, stop it. Dakota Johnson's character is an ambulance. She's a paramedic.

She and her partner is Adam Scott, who they just kept calling him Ben. Like Uncle Ben? When is, sorry. And then when they later, you find out his last name is Parker. Oh no And then his brother is out of town So he has to help take care of Pregnant sister-in-law

Who they're about to say the name At the baby shower And it gets interrupted And you already know it's fucking Peter Parker So you find out all this fucking takes place Before Peter Parker's born The villain has a Spider-Man-like costume Before Peter Parker is born

Well, that doesn't work with the timeline. It doesn't work with anything, Phil. Yeah. Now, to be fair, I don't know anything about the comic book character, Madam Webb. I know of her, but that's it. They're cool. I'll even speak on the Spider-Women characters. I know of them a little bit from the comic books.

They're all cool if they were introduced in a Spider-Man-centered movie. right like they they probably were in one of the spider verse movies like the second one there they're probably in there somewhere sure that would have made sense it just this whole sony spider man's not around bullshit storyline is it doesn't make sense yeah so yeah that uh lance i really wanted to tell you dakota johnson was something the only thing to watch out of this, but I'm sorry. Yeah. She really came off like she didn't give a fuck. What about our girls in this movie?

She didn't do well? She did her role. I like her thing she came out with in the news because I guess, you know, people are really coming down on the movie and she was just like, hey, I was just an actress hired to play a role. You know, right? There you go.

You know what? That might be the best defense at this point. No kidding. I mean, that's what she basically said is like I didn't write the fucking thing I just got hired to be in it. I did my job. They told me to stand here and say this and that's what I did. Yeah.

She probably in the Spider-Man in the Spider-Woman costume, she probably looked the best. I'm sure. Well, yeah. She probably had the coolest. But yeah, watch that. Then I followed that up with another shitty

fucking movie. Wow, you had a rough week, man. Now, I'm glad you included Zim's comment. Okay. We'll get to that later. All right. I'm intrigued. I watched Glenn Danzig's Death Rider in the House of Vampires.

My bottom list is filling up quickly. It is filling up. Wow. Is that new for this year? It is for me. It was doing the festival run, and I think it just got released on the Blu-ray. But I was able to find a copy. Zim is yelling at his iPod right now.

Yell all you want, buddy, because, okay, this has. Who told Glenn Danzig he could be a director in the first place. Glenn Zing, Glenn Danzig told himself. This has Devon Sawa. of course roth what of course Tony treyho

what he knows some guys okay there's some other actors that pop in there but devonsawa again like Dakota Johnson

I felt like he was phoning it in I mean he was doing his like mysterious gunslinger kind of voice but just the way he was performing. I'm just like, you're doing a favor

for a friend. That's what this role is. Straight up, huh? Lance, I got to say, Eli Roth was hamming it to fuck up and he was probably one of my favorite characters in the movie. That's part of the movie. Okay. Well,

yeah, if you know that you're in a shitty movie and I assume that Eli Roth probably knew that he was in a shitty movie. I assume, yeah, I assume. The best thing you can do is just fucking go over. board with it. Like Jim Carrey the shit out of that

thing. These last four I'll go through real quick. My next three movies are all on Shutter. I checked out Satanic Hispanics, the new horror anthology. Oh yeah. Pretty good.

Pretty good. Of course, you know, with most anthologies, you know, you're going to get some that are just not as good as the rest. But I thought it was a pretty good effort. Got a got girl Gigi. She did an episode or a segment. Can't think of his name, Lance.

The director that did Win Evil Lertz. Oh gosh. Yeah, from Peru maybe? No. Man, that sounds horrible right now. There it was. That movie was fucking awesome. Yeah, he did a segment. No kidding. That was a big

get for them. The guy that was one of the co-directors on the original Blair witch project did a segment so they have some pretty big names in there and some of the cast you know if you don't know my name you'll just be like oh I've seen this person and a bunch of things that was pretty decent checked out a history of evil okay kind of bored with this one oh no takes place in a time where ultra I'm gonna assume religious right wing fanatics have taken over the country this lady has written a book about them i could be wrong about that that's just what i got uh this lady wrote a book about them she got put in prison for it and i'm assuming she's getting they break her out of prison they're

sneaking her back over to the safe zone and they stay at this house where they're hiding out and spooky shit starts to happen. The country being overrun by whatever is just kind of a secondary thing. The supernatural stuff in the house. What was this movie called? Right, right. The history of evil.

I have no idea with the sis. No, I remember a history of violence, the Cronenberg movie, but Yeah. And the movie, if I had to, when it gets into the house, if I had to compare it, I would compare it to the original

Amityville horror, because you know, when the spirits like corrupt the father to make him do bad stuff to the family it's essentially what's happening here in this movie okay not the best though huh

it's it's a decent movie it's well filmed it just dragged a little for me not enough to keep my interest all right I might check it out I mean it's you said it's on shutter right yeah um

we're paying for it anyway Yeah, next one on Shudder is Meglamaniac. Ah, okay. What did you think? I know what that was... I want you to check this one out. I think this movie's up here. I'm going to. I'm going to. If you didn't know, you probably would have thought this was like an A-24 or neon or IFC type of film.

Mm-hmm. It's about two siblings of a serial killer. kind of going through life, the son is kind of picking up where his father left off, and then you kind of follow the daughter around. Oh, wow. The cinematography is awesome in this movie, and it gets kind of violent. I do warn people, if you kind of affected by sexual abuse and rape and stuff like that, you do kind of see a bit of that throughout the movie.

So I'm just throwing that out there as a warning. So this family of really nice people, huh? Yeah. My wife mentioned the other day she was like, what was that movie where that girl gets raped? And I was like, last house on the left. She was like, yeah. And I was like, do you want to watch that?

I don't want to watch that. Oh, no. Feel good. Was she talking about the original or the remake? I think the remake, because I think they made that scene even a little longer in the dream yeah i i was about to say i remember i saw that in the theater and i was sitting next i had to been like a group of women probably like five of them and that after 10 minutes of that scene going on they were just like i'm done yeah well i don't fucking blame them that was it was like all right

we could have cut this down to about 10 seconds yeah it's not only a rape of a girl it's a rape of a young girl and it's just going on and on and I was kind of slowly sinking into my seat like this is kind of as uncomfortable they just brutal fucking scenes I've ever seen in a movie yeah so megalomaniag was cool and the last one I checked out was uh came out today okay Jake Gyllenhall oh oh you watch us yep all I have to say is If you, there was one reason to watch this movie. Fucking Connor fucking McGregor. Oh, yeah.

This guy, you could tell, had a fucking blast playing one of the villains. Of course, yeah. He's so over the top. And allegedly, I'm just saying this allegedly, don't sue our show. Don't sue the horror returns. Connor's got to be on something. Because he's fucking big at this one. Maybe.

Like his chest and just his upper half. He's fucking huge. Maybe he went through like a couple cycles just to be on the movie. And he looks a little more. Yeah, could be. He looks a little more fuller in the face. Yeah. Okay.

Well, because I think he's coming back to the UFC, right? Yeah, they just announced it this week. I can't imagine it anytime soon. I imagine he's got time to clean up. Yeah. Yeah. They test for that, don't think? Yeah.

For sure. Jake Jelinehall, he was fine. He can't take the wrong fucking protein powder in the UFC. Jake Jelinehall was fine. I just, I kind of like the Patrick Swayze philosopher type way he played that character. Jake Jelenhall's ex-UFC fighter that is all about peace. And not really a philosopher is just he just doesn't like violence. anymore and it takes it takes a lot to get him mad and when he gets mad you know you already know

it's going to happen the fight scenes were awesome though hmm the action was pretty good okay i mean i really like jillenhall he's he's he's he's not bad in this but like i say connor connor steels the show oh well that makes sense though but i'm not i'm not a diehard roadhouse fan of the original like a dry movie but I also rewatch the original and you don't have lines like when the he's having that fight

by the lake with the one of the the main henchmen and the guy tells Patrick Suisse that he used to fuck guys like you in prison you don't have lines like that too bad and you don't have good bad guy line you don't have Sam Elliott in the movie either

oh yeah Yeah, that's true. That's true. The one girl from a suicide squad, what was her name? Ratcatcher. Oh, okay. So she's in the movie. She's super fucking cute. I think she's like Peruvian or something. It made no sense why she was like local to this Florida place. But hey, she was nice to look at. I imagine there's a pretty huge Hispanic population in Florida.

She just, she didn't. There is. She didn't strike me as a local, though. Yeah. Not a local yokel, huh? Not Florida woman, huh? No, she didn't catch me as that. But it's a decent watch.

I still prefer the original one just for that 80s cheese, but you got to watch it for Connor. So is that the cool of the week? Is that the pinnacle, Brian? Yeah, I have to go with Connor. Conner's performance. And he says Fook a lot.

I'm sure he does. I'm sure he does, man. His character, dude, I like it. He's not even playing the character. It's like, they were like, he's like, well, how do you want me to play the role? He's just like, how do you think you should play the role? Just go out there and be you, man.

Yeah, that's loose. Perfect. You see Jake Gyllen on now. Imagine he's your opponent in your next UFC fight. Now go talk shit to him. Yeah. There you go. Perfect.

Method acting. That's exactly how I have vision. And I will have to say the guy, the director that got all but heard about the movie not going to theaters and going streaming first. Right, right? This is not a theater movie. Oh, I thought it was in the theaters. No, it's on Prime. Oh, shit.

Yeah, Amazon, Amazon Prime. He got a, I don't watch it tonight. Yeah, he got a, I guess they had an agreement. that he because he was against the movie going streaming and they were like, don't worry, it's going to theaters. And then when the movie was done, they were like, oh, it's going straight to streaming.

And so he didn't want to promote the movie. That doesn't surprise me. Jake Gyllenhaal is not a straight to streaming kind of actor. Yeah, I agree with that. But when you, if you watch it tonight, Phil, you're kind of, you're going to probably be like, I'm probably glad I saw it at home.

There you go. See, I told you I would do this. All right. More cool of the week. I watched some cop movies. And one of them was Jake Jillon Hall and Michael Pena. And end of watch. That's a good one.

That's a good one. Fucking fantastic movie. And then I followed it up in Training Day, which was also awesome. That's another good one. All done by the guy that made the original Suicide Squad movie. That's right Bam, what you do that? So I think

They should I don't think we ever Talked about it on here I guess he's kind of done Trying to get the director's cut Of that movie released Oh, I was going to say, yeah There's a director's cut

Because like the other one That they came out with Was better than the theatrical one Yeah, because he said That's not even the movie He originally made Dude, because then to watch Awesome

And he, I guess he really was hoping Since James Guns in there But I guess Warner Brothers It was like, no, we already did that for Justice League. We're not going to keep putting out different versions of movies when people don't like them. Because then it makes our production look stupid because it is. Motherfuckers. Oh, James God.

Put sticking your dicks where they don't belong. I got faith in you, James. I'm calling you. I'm calling you James. all right that's um i'm done that's all i have all right is that it philip you think of any more cop movies buddy cop movies no i know those are definitely the ones that i wanted to talk to talk about uh because i watched them i don't know it's been a while

because we had baseball games and stuff going so it's been a long week yeah i'm trying to think which movie do i like better and to watch or training day. They're both really fucking good. They're both good. Yeah. I mean,

training day was pretty awesome too. I don't know, man. That's a tough phone. I think if I picked one right now, and if you ask me next week, I might go at a different one. They're pretty fucking good.

Which one did you say right now? I said if I picked one right now, and you asked me the same question. I thought you said if you pick one right now and then you didn't pick it. That's a fair statement. That's a fair statement. I mean, dude, Denzel.

Yeah. Fucking killed it. King. Yeah. I think that's the role he finally got an Oscar for? Did he? Yeah. But I think it was one of those he should have got an Oscar way before.

And they were like, we'll give it to him to train. Like they did with Leonardo, right? Yeah, because if you would have told me to pick a movie from his film, It wouldn't have been the Revenant that he wanted to ask for sure Well, and Denzel has done a couple of Bad ones Like he had a little downtime in the 90s But oh when he was doing like the action cop

Yeah mystery thrillers or whatever I like that's right There was that other one that came out about the same time. It was terrible I can't remember I don't Oh kiss the girls was girls great. That wasn't it. I loved it. That wasn't him. What was the other one

that he was in? Around. Was it out of time? Out of time. There you go. Yeah, that was a shit. They're all based on novels and stuff. But, man, Training Day, boy, that was the Denzel show right there.

All right. Brian, got any news for us? I know we got trailers. Oh, yeah. we got some news so let's try to get to her because I want to get some trailers TV news first actually a little non-horror news Rebecca Ferguson and Chris Pratt are set the star

in Amazon MGM studio sci-fi thriller Mercy No idea what that is Me neither do I but Okay Who's Rebecca first? Doctor Sleep, Doom I know we When I posted this, she got a lot of notice on our Facebook.

Oh, okay. I've seen her. She got a pretty big fan base for Rebecca Ferguson. She's in the Mission of Possible movies, too. That's right. That's right. She was great in Dr. Sleep. She was the best part of the movie.

Rose is the Happ. Yeah, I agree with you. All right. TV news. Lionsgate is developing a Twilight animated television series. we lost Lance he walked away on that one well I don't blame him

it's a cash grab try to figure out some way to get some more money out of it dude that's what as if the franchise didn't have enough fucking weight on it already

yeah let's see got some more news on the upcoming Halloween television series They're basically doing a creative reset on it The base is going to be the original movie And then everything else is New timeline for the TV television series

So this is like Halloween to the television series? Pretty much Okay, that makes sense So Halloween no matter which timeline You're trying to connect it to has nothing to do with any of those timelines, just the original 1978 movie. I don't hate that.

You back, Lance? Yeah, you lost me at Twilight animated. I had to go grab a drink of water. He had to go a little bit. I just talked about the people doing the Halloween television series said all timelines would be wiped clean, except for the original 78 movie. I'm okay with that.

Yeah, if you're going to start clean, don't try to connect it to anything but the base material. Like, dude, I like all the Spider-Man origin story movies. They're great. Yeah. Well, we know who's not watching it. All right, movie news. McKenna Grace is set to star in a psychological thrill is set in the 90s called Straight Lies. Okay.

McKenna Grace is the, she plays Egon. daughter in the new Ghostbusters movie. Oh, yeah, she's good. I like her. She is real good, yeah. She's old enough now to be in psychological thrillers. How old is she? She's got to be 16, 17 now.

Okay, but still very young. Because I saw a little TV spot for the new Ghostbusters movie, and she looks noticeably older than she did in the previous Ghostbusters movie. Yeah, people can do that. Yeah. this is not really news but i threw it in here because i thought it was cool and you we're a big

fan of her at the horror return uh samar weaving so she would love to go up against freddie kruger in a nightmare on elm street movie oh that was fun now i wonder i've been wondering did she just is she just saying this because she's a fan of the movie or is she kind of teasing something that's in development i don't know there was a lot of thoughts in my mind I was like, are they going to do like some kind of crossover? Right? Ready or not? Oh!

Yeah. That'd be great. You could do that. I mean, it's already an insane fucking universe, right? Why not? Sure, sure. She had to deal with one demon. Yeah.

Now she has to deal with another one. And then she could just go across the universe's laying wasted demons. That would be great. And we don't have to, we already know she's badass, so we already know that coming into it. Right. So she's not like a fucking Mary Sue Star Wars character. Right. Like, she's already, she's already had her trials and tribulation.

She's a badass. It's certifiable. She punched a little kid in that movie, too. Yeah, that was great. Take it as far as she needs to. All right. Anthony Hopkins has signed on to Star in Eyes in the Trees, a reimagining of H.G. Wells, the island of Dr. Moreau,

with Timothy Warden Gagra's director. Okay. Sure. Lance doesn't like any of the news tonight. Oh, Lord. No, I'm not saying that. It just strikes me as humorous. Okay.

So I assume Anthony Hopkins will be the, the Dr. Moreau character. Yeah. That's Sir Anthony Hopkins. Does he do better than Brando? I don't know. It was a pretty good role, man. I mean, it was a little wild.

All the behind-the-scenes stuff on that movie, I wonder if any of that kind of shenanigans would be going on here. So you're saying... Changing directors halfway. I was about to say, so you're saying this director was fired and later tried to speak on set? Yes. Yes.

I'm calling it right now. In costume. As an animal. I like Anthony Hopkins better. Do you? Yeah, I do. Everything he's in, he's awesome. Everything.

Even if it's a shit. He's just spring chicken. Well, I know. It just makes him better. Everything he's in. I remember Dr. Moreau, he just has to sit there and talk. That's true. Yeah, I mean, this was.

Wearing his robes, wearing his robe. True. Yeah. I'm down with it since the last movie It's such a shit show I like it If Val Kilmer shows up I'm going to lose my shit

I don't think he's showing up See I was going to say they should put Val Kilmore as Dr. Moreau Oh That's not bad casting actually That's actually not bad casting It totally worked But Anthony Hopkins is a step up dude I mean that guy I'm telling you he doesn't

I watch I also watch Noah on Netflix which I'd never seen before. I can't even remember that it came out. I was like, what the fuck was this? There's so many people in that movie. Russell Crow was in it? Yeah.

Yeah. And Anthony Hopkins is in there and he fucking eats up every scene that he's in. Like, I'm telling you, even when he's in a not great movie, which that movie wasn't bad. It was just super long. Like, he kills it every time. He's in that. Thor movie and he makes it suddenly serious. Oh, that's right.

You know, like he's in Ragnor. Hey, when he was in Transformers the last night, he was fucking entertaining. Even though he was, you could tell he was hamming it up, he was fucking entertaining in that one. Yeah, big time. Like he just turns it into an Anthony Hopkins movie all of a sudden for every scene that he's in.

All right. We got a couple of production companies starting up, Evil Dead Rise He doesn't need to start his own company He is the company Lance Okay

Okay Evil Dead director Lee Kronin Signs a first look deal With New Line Cinema For his new production company Called Doppler Hmm So

Off the strength of Evil Dead Rise He made a new production company So good on him Yeah And where he goes from here. Skydance Media is launching an all-new horror label with Andy Mochetti and his sister,

Barber Mochetti called Nocturna. So another horror production company starting up. Okay. Well, hey. Why not? The Rise of Horror Movies. I'll take it. Maggie Gyllenhauls, directorial debut.

I think it's a directorial debut. The Bride, which is basically the bride of Frankenstein, gets the October 3rd, 2025 release date. there's your other universal horror nights haunt that we're going to walk through guys well i think this next one i think this next one will probably be there lee ronnell's the wolfman has been filming nice see anytime you talk about a remake of a classic it's like i know well we'll see i really i really like i really like

I really like what he did with the Invisible Man. Yeah. So. Well, yeah. That was, that was pretty good. But that was like abnormal for the situation. You know what I mean? Like there's been so many like remakes of stuff that are just garbage.

Bad. Well, maybe he didn't strike gold a second time. Especially when you're remaking something that's already a classic. If they wanted to strike gold, they should get Warwick Davis in there, Brian. Yeah. tiny wolfman. Yeah. Both-sized.

They can bring him back for the upcoming Leprechaun reboot. The director for Lupe Bargis gave an update saying the lepercon reboot will have a nice balance of comedy and horror and will be mostly practical effects. Cool.

He could be like the scrappy dude of Wolfman. No. That means everybody's going to hate him. Everybody hate his crap. Let's see. Barbara Crampton is producing the remake for 1979's Tours Trap. Oh, cool.

That would probably be good. Yeah. I can't remember that one. New Goolies trilogy is in the works from original franchise creators. Oh, we'll have to have Darren back on the show. More remakes. What do we only do the first one?

Or the second one. I think so. The second one, I think we did that at one point. How's your spreadsheet coming, Brian? It's coming along slowly. We reviewed a lot of fucking movies. Not as slowly as my putting up more re-uploads, that's for sure. But we still need to do Gooies 3 and Gooies 4.

Go to college. Yes. Go to college. That's right. That's right. That's so awful. All right. A couple big things.

things and then we are done moving on. Joe Dante is returning to the director's chair for Little Shop of Halloween horrors. What? They're bringing back a little shop of horror. The Halloween game? No shit. I think they did a music of Broadway

musical. Oh, okay. Yes, they did. But I'm interested. I mean, Joe Dante, he's done the howling, gremlins, the burbs. Okay. So, we talked about... Yeah, maybe don't make it as much of a musical this time.

I'd be down with that. Yeah, more serious, like the original black and white. You know what? It just popped in my head. You guys ever see the alternate ending where the plants took over the world or murdering everybody? No. If they're trying to make this a franchise,

what did they go off of that idea? Huh. Because the alternate ending to the Rick Moranis movie, the plants took over and was just fucking murdering everybody. That would be, yeah, that's probably what's going to happen, Philip. And an astronaut comes back and it's going to be like Planet of the Apes except with plants. Oh, no!

Can it be Rick Moranis? Yes. Wow. How great would that be? Let's see. We talked about Salem's Lot movie probably coming to Max. Max made it officials. The new Sam's Lot remake will premiere.

sometime this year on Max, I'm going to say probably later this year. Okay. That one I don't hate. Stephen King says it's good, but it's from one of his books, so I'm sure he's it. He doesn't even remember writing it. Probably not. He remembers what got him through writing it. Yeah, sure.

That was that time frame, for sure. A new Final Destination movie. titled Final Destination Bloodlines has begun production. People are already hating the title because there is probably 20 other horror movies called something something bloodlines. But

I heard a theory that is called bloodlines because the story this is just a fan theory. It might have something to do with somebody alluding death and death

finally catching up to them and since they've had family after generations. Death is coming after them because they should have never been alive. Yeah. Oh, no, that flies in the face of the baby idea in part two. But, okay. But that had nothing to do with anything. Yeah, but they said if the new baby gets born, then death stops following you or something, right?

Well, that was a theory that they came up with. It's not like that. Didn't work because. didn't play out. She read the vision wrong. Yes. Never read the visions wrong, kids. Let's see. Two more things. Maxine finally gets a release date. July 5th in theaters. Right around the corner.

And the big news of, I think, well, we're a couple weeks late on this one. Sorry, everybody. They backed the money. truck up. Nev Campbell is returning to Scream for Scream 7. So Scream's back on? I thought

I thought the franchise was dead. Well, they did an interesting thing here. They not only brought Neff Campbell back, but original screen script writer Kevin Williamson is attached to direct. Huh.

So I think they were kind of like, don't be mad at us. Look, we brought back the originals for the new one. Back to basics. But I was coming up with my own theory. Now, they didn't bring Nev Campbell back for six because they didn't want to pay her what she was asking for.

Do you think they purposely fired Melissa Barrera? Oh, no. I don't want to get it about it. It's like a salary cap situation? Yeah. Oh, you spoke on this on social media. Melissa, you're fired. Get out of here. Oh, no.

Call up Neff. not. We freed some money. That would be horrible. That would be horrible if that was the case. Listen, the pie's only so big. Yeah.

But as, as for screen, the true screen fans, I think this is probably the right move. Bring back the original Spinal Girl and the guy that wrote the movie,

wrote the characters, because they have a lot of love and respect for the franchise. So, all right that's it all right you guys y'all ready to go down to the trailer park let's go Brian is going to bring us the big the small and lots of very very weird tonight so let's get this truck rolling Brian what's you got man all right we're gonna start with we're gonna start with a TV series first Disney Plus is Star Wars the Acolyte

okay a Star Wars series that takes viewers into a galaxy of shadowy sequence and emerging dark side powers in the final days of the High Republic era, which I did double-checking. This takes place 100 years before episode one. Hmm. Okay. The stars, Amanda Steinberg, Daphne King, Jody Turner Smith, Carrie Ann Moss, which is, she was prominent in the trailer.

She's like seventh build in here. Yeah, she's the only one I've heard of so far. Yeah Daphne Keene, she was In the Logan movie She was the little girl Oh Okay

She's not a little girl no more But Series creator Leslie Headlin Phil You're probably the biggest Star Wars fan Out of all of us

What'd you think? Not interested Oh no Oh yeah Yeah Not even I to do from the perspective of the dark side and they're murdering jeddyes i don't know man it looks like it's uh very heavy on the messaging i yeah yeah i i and until something's proven to be really

badass in star wars at this point sort of lost interest in the whole franchise oh no wow strong words from phillow well i thought i thought the trailer was badass i like seeing carry as Carrie Ann Maas says I'm assuming a Jedi using her force powers because it just brought me back to Trinity. Well, and I'm happy they're doing Jedi stuff at least. Yeah. And I'm

glad they're going to the old Republic stuff. Yeah. Like it's got potential, I think. And I thought the poster was pretty badass. It was just a bloody lightsaber laying on the ground. So...

Darker than, huh? I would hope so. I mean, if they're coming from the perspective of the dark side, I hope it's going to be dark and not, you know. Little Annie, little Annie Anakin pod racing. Oh, gosh. That video game was fun, though, at the arcade. Yes, it was.

Yes, it was. There is that. So what do you think, Lance? I'm in. I'm in. Why not? I mean, look, here's the thing. I've been to, I've been to gathers.

Galaxy's Edge twice now since I've lived here in Florida. And that is a fucking badass accomplishment, what they did to open that whole area up at Disney Hollywood Studio and literally build out like three different Star Wars planets that you can explore through and go into little shops. And they get a fucking character, man. If you're not, if you don't walk out of the way, the goddamn Stormtroopers will knock you over. Can I got them back over? I would think so. But damn, you talk about in character, man. they're like, move out of the way.

Little kids coming up to them, like, wanting to take their picture, and they're like, oh, it's a youngling, and they'll tap them on the head and say, get out of here. Kids probably crying, you know. I'm excited. They are, and they pull it off. No, I'm more excited about Star Wars than I've ever been, so I'm cool. I'm down with it.

I just think this one's going to have some twists. I think people that you think are going to be good or going to be evil, and I think vice versa. I see a lot of intrigues in this one. Well, I'm just kind of glad we're going to get all-new story and not rely on the same characters. True. ...over and over and over. This takes place 100 years. I think someone said the only possible characters that could show up is Yoda.

Yoda. And I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will. But other than that, nobody exists yet. So, I mean, we'll see June 4th, not too far from here. two episodes premiere on that day. All right. Moving on to a movie that's going to appear on an upcoming Cage Rage episode.

You think? Arcadian starring Nicholas Cage, Jaden Martel, Maxwell Jenkins. A father and his twin sons survived a son's fight to survive in a remote farmhouse at the end of the, at the end of the world. So kind of seems like a post-apocalyptic type scenario. Yeah. And I've seen some reviews on it. Because the trailer didn't really tell me much going on, but I've seen some reviews saying that the creature work is amazing.

Well, what are the creatures? It's nobody's saying. I guess it's a mystery. It's kind of like what you got to see the movie. They almost look like weird little werewolf things. Like it was in a werewolf costume. Oh, multiply. There you go.

He almost looked like critters for a second. I know. I was what I was saying. Oh, no. I don't know what's going on. But this will be going on a Cage Rage episode because I believe Beads requested that we should do this along with long legs that comes out in a couple months.

There you go. Okay. All right. Most apocalyptic, Nicholas Cage. Sign me up, dude. Yeah, the only downer part I see is it doesn't look like crazy Nick Cage in this one. I know. He does kind of yell at his sons.

He does kind of yell at his sons for not coming in by the time it got dark. He did say, are we not man? He can't throw a whole movie without being cage rage. Maybe that's, maybe you're right, Lance. Maybe that's the moment when we get to that part where they got a fight and he does his whole speech. y'all do not men and he just fucking Nick Cage is out for the rest of the movie I can see it I can see it

freedom this is coming to theaters April 12th and then I believe is getting a shutter release after the movie that'll probably be out by the time you hear this episode which is getting

a lot of buzz is IFC's new movie Late Night with the Devil starred David Dawes Maltchin I think I said

Poked up man Pokedup man The guy's good in everything I've seen him in I just don't know his name Yeah Okay

A live television broadcast At 1977 Goes horribly wrong Unleashing Evil Into the nation's living rooms Huh So I mean I'm in It just kind of sounds like they did a try to do, raise a demon or do an exorcism on national TV and shit's going to go really fucking wrong.

Yeah, man. I'm loving the trailer. I'm totally into this movie. I'll watch it. And I heard it's part, not fully, but part of its found footage, because this is a lost episode from 1977 of a TV show. Okay. All right. I'm down with that. So I think it's going to go from found footage to real time, what actually happened. And like you said, Phil, this David Dahl's mulching guy, Pocodon, man.

He's awesome and everything. He looks great in this one. Yeah, this could be the role of a lifetime for him. Yeah. This almost looks like the role he was born for. You know, he looks really comfortable in that role. And it's, like I said, I've been seeing it's getting a lot of buzz right now. Is that 100% on Rotten Tomatoes?

It's something like that. I think it is, yeah, I think it is. But I've learned to not really trust. I know. I know. Because sometimes I read the, you know, it'll show like little clip, not little clips, but little sections of some. much review. Right.

And then you'll read it and then you'll just like, you don't like movies, do you? They're the wrong business. It was like that thing you were talking about earlier. It's like, you know, when it gets the best horror movie of the year stuff, you always have to be like, all right, hang on a second. You're pushing that a little bit apart. All right. All right.

That comes late night with the devil. comes out March 22nd and will be coming to show April 19th Wait a minute, is this already in the theater then? Like as of tonight? It could be a later. It could be a late night show. I'm finding this. Yep. It's definitely out tomorrow. I can see if I can find this one. Here we go. Late night with the devil. My yes! Yes! It's in my movie theater right across the street. There you go.

Oh, ghostblisters may have to wait. We have We have three more Trail to talk about you guys want to talk about the Big Two or the controversial one. Up to you guys. I don't know what that means, but yeah, let's go. What do you are? Controversial or the Big Two?

Let's see controversial. What's controversial? The Crow. Oh, okay. Because it looks like ass. Oh, no. The Crow starring Bill Scarsgard, FK, Twigs, Danny Houston directed by Rupert Sanders. Wow.

Now, I've seen a lot of reactions online. It seems like if you're a casual fan of the crow, you're okay with the trailer. But if you're a diehard fan of the crow, you fucking hate everything about this. Ouch. Bill, he must be a diehard fan. I'm sorry, Brian.

No, go ahead. No, go ahead. No, go ahead. I didn't know he was a diehardt. fan of the crow. I think he is. I mean, as a,

as a diehard Bruce Lee fan, I'm a big fan of Brandon Lee. And the original Crow is fucking. Probably his best movie. Yes. Absolutely.

Easily. And, uh, yeah, to me, this looks like the suicide job, uh, the suicide squad joker. Oh no.

Oh. Like, I don't, the design looks fucking awful. I don't know why it's... But do you agree with a lot of people are saying that they should have made them look like exactly like the original? Well... Because then, what's the point? Yeah, I mean, I'll keep an open mind about it. I'm not...

I mean, I'll definitely watch it. And, like, I don't hate the tone of the whole trailer. It's just the look of it and the whole, like, and I really like Bill Scarsguard too, but like... He got pretty fucking ripped for this movie. Well, he did, but it's like, another comparison I've heard is the Devil May Cry redesign of that character. Because he was like this long-haired Victorian area, you know, metal guy. And then they, like, redid him and cut his hair short and made him like, look like this ripped up little male model guy.

Yeah, he's a SoundCloud rapper now. Yeah, there you go. SoundCloud rapper instead of a, like, bassist for a heavy metal band. Yeah, well, what's kind of keeping me in, this looks like it has potential to be super violent. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Like, there were some scenes in the trailer that looked like they could have been really cool. I just, I don't like the design at all.

now if it's super fun violent action could you get over the look and be in to the movie yeah yeah yeah if they pull me into it and it's a good movie uh i'm down with it like i actually really really would have liked to see uh you know the extended cut of the suicide squad where they had like more scenes with jared letto's joker because i want to see more of him because that guy says he doesn't want to do the joker no more because he said the movie he found with suicides. That's not the movie he, what he, what we've seen is not the movie he filmed. Yeah. And I know that Jared Leto was pissed about that whole situation because he came out looking stupid. And it's like they took that design and went, hey, why don't we throw that into a roast thing? There's so much from what I read. I know we're supposed to be talking about the crow, but there's so much backstory to Jared Lettow's Joker.

Like the gold teeth, it was supposed to be explained. he has gold grills because Batman knocked his fucking teeth out. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, well, they didn't go into that. Oh, they didn't. At all. He just says tattoos and say, ha, ha, ha.

Yeah, they went weird with the tattoos. He's got like some tattoo with a face and one of the eyeballs is his nipple and it's distracting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There is that.

I'm hoping this will be super violent and fun action because I like the scene where he shoots through his own body to shoot the person off of him. And then it looks like he's, when he's standing on the stage in front of that crowd, it looks like he throws a couple severed heads into the crowd. I didn't catch that. It looks like he's throwing two. I couldn't make it out, but it looks like two heads and bags. So I'm hoping that's the violence aspect that I'm looking for in this. I mean, like I said, I'll keep an open mind. But like, I'm not super stoked about this one.

FK.A. Twig, she looks super sexy. Showing her ass on the trailer. Oh, yeah, that was nice. That's a good way to start the trailer. I had to look her up. I didn't know who she was. I guess she's a singer. Oh, okay.

Sounds about right. All right. The Crow coming to theater is June 7th. Look, won't be there. Probably not until somebody tells me it's awesome. Or if Brian puts it on the schedule. Yeah. No, I don't think so.

We can hear both of them. No, we could compare both of them. know what? It may not be bad. I wouldn't hate that episode. Okay. Then you guys ask for it. You get machine gun, I mean, sorry, Phil. Yeah, machine gun, Kelly. There you go. Machine Gun, Scars Guard.

There you go. All right. Now to the big two. We'll talk about, first we'll talk about the one that came out just before we started recording. And that's a teaser trailer for Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. the follow-up to Beetlejuice's 1988, the comedy horror about a ghost who is recruited to help haunt a house. Well, that seems like a synopsis for the original movie, not the new one.

Which I kind of like not really knowing. I like not knowing with this movie by that. That's good. Yeah. How much of a synopsis do you really need? All right. The cast. Of course, well, first is, of course,

written and directed by Tim Burton Okay Mm-hmm Told Michael Keaton Geno Ortega Willem Defoe

Monica Balucci Captain O'Hara Winona Ryder Justin Thoreau And so on and so on Yep Hmm Everything you're telling me

About this movie Sounds awesome And it looks like They killed off that creek That real-life creep I hope that was his great Oh Jeffrey Jones huh?

The child diddler or whatever. Was he? Yeah, he's convicted. Was that the fat guy? The one that played the dad? No. Oh, oh, that guy. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah. I hope that was his funeral.

And the teaser. Wow. Probably was, man. He's not in the... You didn't list him in the cast, so... Well, you never know, because they brought him back for that... What's that Western show on HBO they did the movie for? Oh, yeah. Deadwood.

Yeah, they brought him back, and that was after he was convicted and did tire. Well, but they did kill him off, didn't they? All right. Explain to me how you can do things to kids, go to jail, and then ever see the light of day. What in the fuck? Phil, that's the reason why we've never reviewed a G. Creepers movie. Oh, no, that's right.

That dude. Which hurts me because I like the first one, and I like the character of the Creeper, but the fucking director of the first two, I don't understand how he's able to work in the industry. There's you go. That's what I'm saying. I don't get it. Oh, maybe.

Maybe Corey Feldman was on to something in his documentary. I can almost fucking guarantee you he was being 100% truthful. I mean, Corey Feldman's got a little bit of a fucking crazy side to him, but it's probably because of all that shit. Yeah, didn't all the directors from like the 90s or 2000 Nickelodeon shows, didn't they all just get outed recently? Yep. Yep.

Yeah, basically shows that we grew up with or shows that neither we grew up. with or our kids grew up with were being made by deadlers not keenan and kale please say not keenan and kale well no it was it was more the uh behind the scenes guys behind behind the oh okay okay yeah i'd creep i well and one of the things that uh that that that what's his name said was uh the other cori was about uh charlie sheen and the other cori cori

Corey Haim. I don't know. Oh. But. You know, Charlie was on a lot of Coke. You think? But, oh, this is for a different episode. Yeah.

Beetlejuice, short teaser. Everything looked great. Side track. Everything felt like I was being taken back to 1988, but an updated version. Yeah. So I'm ready for this. Yeah.

Like, I, I, You couldn't have a better cast, man. Like, Michael Keaton sounded exactly the same, which was... Jenna Ortega. Jenna Ortega? All I know is she plays Winona Ryder's daughter. Which totally makes sense. It acts just like her.

Looks just like her. I love it. And I know Nez somewhere got excited when he saw Winona Ryder because she doesn't age. Yeah. And so did Garrett. Oh, he's a big one on. Not a rider fan. Big time, yeah, big time.

See, I'm not even a huge Juanona Ryder fan, but she was fantastic in this movie, and she looks exactly the same in this one. I want to hear a debate between those two. Because I think Nez is a bigger Winona Ryder fan. Oh, well, got to get them on for Beetlejuice, Beatlejuice, Brian. Who loves her more? Fight it out. All right, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

in theater September 6. Not to mention fantastic name. Yes. All right. And now to the other big teaser trailer,

which I am 100% fine with what I saw. I don't want to see anything else. I saw enough. That is Fedé Averiz, Alien Romulus. Okay.

Starring Isabel Merset, Cali, Spaney. Don't care who else, because they're all going to die. Teaser trailer looked fucking amazing. I felt claustrophobic with that shot back

going through the air vents. I know Fete Averez is going to bring the practical effects because he's what he did. The Evil Dead remake, Don't Breathe. Yeah, looks like there's going to be some blood. Oh, that scene when

somebody was pulling out the face hugger out of their throat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I don't think we've ever seen, like, it was a quick shot, but it looked like a whole bunch of facehuggers just like attacking people.

I don't think we ever seen that many just come at somebody. Like a colony of them, huh? Yeah. I'm in. I thought this teaser was great. Was it laying an egg down there, or was that like a facehugger penis?

Oh! Well, it's a face hugger penis that goes into your throat. So I'm assuming if it already deep throat in the person, it already laid something in there. I would think so, yeah. But I'm all in. I thought this was fantastic. I think this was a perfect teaser. You don't need to really show that much.

Yeah, and they didn't give you much. All I know from doing some digging is this takes place between alien and aliens. Okay. And that's it. It's a bunch of young people. Young people on the ship that are probably going to get murdered. Not probably. They are.

For some reason. For some reason, I thought it was a prequel. No, they said between alien and aliens. Okay. We're all in, for sure. And I liked that original, or not the original. original. The, uh, like that extra little trilogy that Ridley Scott did with Prometheus and stuff, um, more than most people probably did. And I think, that's a great, I enjoyed it. And I think

something that's real telling is he's very protective of this franchise. Yeah. He was all on board with producing this when Fed E A Averiz basically was like, this is, this is what I want to do with it. And he's been all, he's been championing this. and he's told other people to kind of fuck off that wanted to fucking direct a movie because it was basically I'm going to direct the movie type of stuff but he was all for this one so from the little bit it gives you in the trailer

and it's not much it's a teaser right but it looks like it's going to be good I'm saying Anthony Hopkins isn't a spring chicken Ridley scout really isn't Oh, yeah, that's true. Like, like 90 or something? Well, he's still making movies. I'm hearing, speaking of Denzel, I heard, Yeah.

Gladiator 2 is everybody's raving about the stuff they seen that Denzel did in the movie. Denzel's in Gladiator 2? Okay. Yeah. No kidding. Okay. Okay. Everybody said the little, the little scenes they said with Denzel,

they're like, Denzel is probably going to steal this one. Dude, he's one of my favorite people on the planet. I love Intel. But yeah, really, Scott's doing Gladiator, too. Or Ben Filman, it's almost done filming. Yeah, I've been talking about that one for a while. And he did that one, what was it, last year, Lance?

The Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. Yeah, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon is the Knights. Knights of the Realm. Oh, that's right. They're pretty good haircuts. I couldn't get past the haircuts. I know. Yeah, the haircuts were definitely goofy.

The dumb and dumber haircut. Yeah. Yeah. It was like dumb and dumber, the Middle Ages. I don't know if he talked about it. Did we ever talk about Ben Affleck's Dunkin' Donuts Super Bowl commercial? No, but it was glorious. Yes, it was.

Tom Brady is the DJ. Matt Damon is the hype man that just kept apologizing. It was like he was playing his character. from Jane Silent Bob Strikeback. Yeah. And I just, I don't know. I don't know what made me think of that, but I just like Jennifer Lopez was just like,

Ben, I fucking told you. You're not coming. You're not getting on the album. Yeah, he was great, man. But, yeah, no, back to the aliens thing. Love it. I'm sold. All right.

Aliens, Romulus, is coming to theaters, is August 16th and that is the end of trailer paloosa that one's worth going to the theaters to watch I'll check that out for sure uh check that one over the crow

huh oh yeah for sure I'm gonna I'm gonna need to get some real feedback from the crow like after it's already come out I mean but I mean if you guys wanted to be an episode I'm really guessing that that movie is going to fucking bomb.

Yeah, I think it's 50-50 with me. Yeah. It could be really bad or it could be something that I wasn't expecting. Well, and it may be something that you weren't expecting, and it could be really good, but it's going to end up like a cult classic or something, because I think in the theaters it's not going to do it. Oh, you're saying, I can see what you're saying. It'll find its audience later.

Yeah, but it's not going to find it in the theaters. That's a bad idea. No, because like I said, I've been going through different podcasts and YouTube channels. And like I said, if you're a diehard Crow fan of the original movie, then you fucking hate everything about this. Yeah. Well, and it's another one where it's like a big, it's a big remake to take on because the original was so awesome. Yeah. Which begs the question, why the fuck are you doing this?

because it's Hollywood Instead of coming up with something new They'll just see what do we have in our catalog Oh we haven't done one of these in a while I think the last The last Crow movie had Edward Furlong in it Yeah I don't count those Oh okay

All right Edit that out I didn't say that All right Let's move on to some listener feedback back this week we do a double dose of podcast spotlight to cover last week as well as this week. First up is the more deadly podcast. The more deadly podcast is all about horror movies directed by women that prove that female of the species is more deadly than the male. Join your host Rachel and Ariel each episode as we discuss a new female helm movie. and the talented women, woman or women who made it.

Well, just like the prank mantis, I guess. Or the black widow. Just not Madam Webb, right? Just not that one. No. Let's move on before I go on another rant about that movie. I want to hear it. I was drinking water, but AJ got home and brought some gems.

Well, I needed some gin after watching that movie. Yeah, I figured as much, man. Sounded that way. Sounded like you needed somebody to give you a big hug or something. I needed one. Let's put it like this. Our friends over at The Geeks. One of their hosts, Alil.

That is Spider-Man and everything Spider-Man. That is his guy. Yes, he's my fellow Florida man. He refuses to watch Madam Webb because he already knows. As do I. As do I. Somebody that's a diehard, I got to watch everything, Spider-Man. I got to...

Yeah, a complete is. If you see the back, his collection is mostly Spider-Man. Well, because it's... It's on Disney Plus now, right? It's on nothing. Oh. I don't think it's going to be on Disney Plus, is it? Is it Sony?

Well, they put Morbius on that work. Oh, that's right. Ah, yeah. That movie's fucking better than Madam Webb. Oh no. Because more... Ouch. Isn't that the Joker, too?

In that one, too? Yeah. Jared Lettow's done some crap movies in the past few years. A vampire. A vampire with a grill. That's the movie I want to sue. Well, you think he's better... I know we're supposed to be on listener feedback,

but you think he's better suited for Indies? Yes. Talk about Jared Leto. Because his next... big movie is the next Tron movie Well, I mean, I don't know He just, he plays eccentric

Really well Yeah, true Gotcha I don't know, we'll see He just can't be the main character Of a fucking blockbuster movie That's not a way I know, that's, yeah

Well, we used to say that about Jake Gillinghal, though But we used to say that about Jake Jillen Hall too, right? But Jillen Hall is like I think he's grown as an actor. I think he's grown. I do too. I do too.

For sure. Now, if this was Prince of Persia, Jake Jalenhall, no, I don't ever want to see him. Yeah. But now... That's the one I was thinking of. I'm just like they wasted him in Spider-Man. Yeah, they really did. Like, he should have had a bigger point.

Yeah. All right. And also for this week, we shine the light on Plug It Up. Plug it up. Great. Aim. Great poster. Yes, yes. Wonderful artwork.

Plug it up is a horror movie podcast about the monstrous feminine. Host Caitlin Grant and her funny guest. Look at all the monstrous feminine in all its forms, including monstrous menstruation

like Carrie and Ginger Snaps. Monstrous motherhood like Rosemary's Baby and the Omen. femme fatals like Jennifer Bodies Jennifer's body and the love witch The Love Witch I've never seen The Love Witch I know what it is oh I want to

I want to man it looks really good It reminds me that It doesn't look like it's a throwback Yes it gave me the same exact vibe That Late Night with the Devil did Where it literally looked like it was filmed in 1977 Legit Because when I went when I went to see

Stop Motion at the theater Brian I actually got a teaser for Late Night with the Devil, and it was just like 30 seconds, guys, and it was like kind of, I don't know. But this one was like showing you what all was going to be crazy shit going on in the movie. So anyway, we're tangent night tonight, I guess. Black Widows like Dolores Claiborne,

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like gone girl. Okay. Lot to cover. Check it out. You have some feminist stuff happening. Matt Wood just listened to the last episode

and I wanted to thank Don and Ellie for his vast knowledge on the Gialo and how the genre came about, stuff I never knew, so thank you. Don responded, oh, thanks, man, I really appreciate it, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. That was even a Cliff Notes version of it, and I didn't have a chance to go in depth on everything.

Yeah, Don is super-duper knowledgeable on stuff. Yeah, I felt a little bit smarter coming out of that episode. Yeah, we've had some talented guests lately, that's for sure. Regarding the horror returns T-shirts available at T-Public, a great image on a seriously great quality shirt, buy one now. Actually, throw out all your current shirts and buy enough of these shirts to replace your entire wardrobe. I'd do it, but I have a wife, and that would lead to a line of questioning that I can't be bothered dealing with right now. And I don't know who said that.

I think that was from Zoom. But he's not wrong. I've got one of the shirts. It's pretty fantastic. Like, and I've got, I've got this badass shirt that I ordered off of Amazon from, uh, it was a, uh, uh, god damn it. Cobra Kai shirt. Oh, yeah. Okay, cool.

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Uh, regardless. Regarding the toxic Avenger behind the scenes pick in the group, Cameron Sullivan says, Insane Clown Posse is getting out of hand. Jesus. I think you got to see the picture to get that, but that's,

I guess that was spot on, right? Regarding this year's March Madness episode, Tim Davis says this is a fantastic listen. Every single person made amazing points to multiple movies, and you have all made me look at these films differently. well done. Regarding the original Halloween, Joseph Rogers Lee says

the best of the best, especially given the time and era. Agreed. If they're getting rid of everything but it, I guess that makes sense, right? Yeah. Regarding poor things. Oh, I watched that one too. What a crazy fucking movie. That's nuts. Yeah. AJ loved it. Me, not to

so much, but I don't like that director at all. So I might have. had some prejudice going in. Who knows? Mark Ruffalo was okay. Yeah. You get like kicked into nuts. It's a, the whole

fucking movie is insane. It's super weird. Holy fucking. It was a good, like, I disagree with everything they have to say about life, but it was kind of a good movie. Okay.

I see it's on Hulu, but it just, it looks like nothing. want to watch, honestly. It's... And it's three hours. It's not really like anything else, though. It's so fucking weird. It's hours. Why is everything three hours?

It seems that way lately, doesn't it? This one almost makes sense to be three hours, though, because I'm telling you, it's not like anything else you've ever watched. That's why I haven't... It's such a different movie. It's why I haven't started an up inheimer.

Oh, that's, that's good. I've seen it twice now. I've seen it twice now, Brian. So you had 10 hours? Yeah. Yeah, I did. And it's not a, it's, how do I describe it? I won't. I'll let you see it. Tell me what you think, man. I don't want to give anything away. It's not what I expected exactly, Philip, would you kind of agree? It was more nerdy and scientific than I thought it was going to be. I had no idea what to expect when I watched this movie. I just knew that it was like up for best picture or some shit. Yeah. And Rose turned it on. And I was like, I like the...

I mean, I've seen some of it. It has like three totally separate acts. I've seen some of it. I've seen... I mean, we got some sexy time with, what's her name, Flores Pew. Sure. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah.

I don't know if Disney likes all that. Well, you got, you got more than a few scenes there, Brian, so. Soke it in. So regarding poor things, Sam Castioners, Castanier, Castanier, I don't know. Sure. It says it's a Frankenstein movie with the horror taken out. Oh.

Kind of. That's not making me want to watch it now. Amanda Lee says it's awesome. Okay. See, there you go. Different viewpoints, Brian. Regarding Texas Chainsaw Part 2, Shane Hallmark says, I got to meet her, Stretch, a couple of years ago,

at the Atrox in Birmingham. She was cool. I probably said that wrong, but... We got an email from Jordan von Netser. Hi, would you be interested in having a director, David Andrew James on the show? of course. He's the director of the upcoming horror film

Bag of L.A. based distribution financing company, epic picture specialty horror label will be releasing their horror thriller Bag of Lies in North America. The film will have a limited theatrical run beginning March 29th, 2024, followed by a VOD release on April 2nd. Bag of Lies was directed by

David Andrew James, co-written by Joe Zappa and James from a concept by Nick Loughlin. So check that out if you get the chance. Bag of lies. Check it out. Yeah. That's it for feedback this week.

Oh, we got one more. Oh, we do? From Zam. Did you get it? I don't think so. Oh, no. Nope, don't have it. Dude, dude. All right.

I'll read it. I'll read it. I'll read it, okay? Okay, go for it. All right, here we go. Here we go. Let's see. Veronica is a misunderstood gym.

Let that sink in, boys. Which means Veronica? Veronica. First movie. Yeah, the one with like the tits, the nipples that opened up. Oh, boy, yeah. That movie is so... I don't know.

I got tired of seeing Topless Women. That's how bad the movie is. That's not a good sign. But he does go on to elaborate, guys. He does go on. Okay. So, let me say a few words. I'm a Danzig connoisseur.

Okay. As a teenager, I was obsessed with his work. Not so much these days. But I keep up to date on his wheeling and dealings. Out of all the cunts, you know, I'm probably the most Danzig. Don't freak out, listeners. He's from Australia. He's allowed to say it.

Out of all the cunts, you know, I am probably the most Danzig expert that you know. I am probably also the only one who appreciates Veronica. He made the exact film that he was trying to make, and I think he succeeded. however being in australia i have no idea how the fuck to watch death writer it feels like one of those films that will be accessible to me in about five years so i don't know brian maybe you can reach out to to zam and give him some advice to try to find uh that masterful uh creation death writer i don't know if i want to do that to somebody well you just told he's the biggest danzing chasmsu ever and he's an old school punk guy for

sure man so yeah it doesn't surprise he's huge it's it's it's not the subject matter of the movies it's the way he films them it's just like zoom in zoom out zoom in zoom in zoom out zoom in oh too far zoom back in if you're not shaky cam when it doesn't need to be shaky cam oh no there's a there's a scene in Death Rider and there's a scene in Baratica where you clearly, the actress is looking off screen like keep going? That's terrible.

It's like a bad porno. One thing you have to keep in mind, Brian. Zim is a Patreon patron. And if you're not careful what you say, no, no, I'm saying you may end up having to do a commentary.

Oh, I'll do a commentary. I won't have nice things to say for the commentary. Might be fun, though. Yeah, we just got to find a way to get a copy for Zamb to watch so we can all do that together. Oh, yeah. And, of course, our show intro and all of our new logos from Steve Carlton from the Geeks. Original Skull artwork from Natsuwani. And if you'd like to help us out, please consider becoming a Patreon patron.

And as we mentioned, you can pick a commentary for a future bonus show at $5 a more month. Or you can pick a movie, or three movies actually, for a future show, right? Three or two. Are we still at three, Brian? Yeah. Three movies. You get to pick three movies that we're going to watch and suffer through. Yeah.

Unless they're awesome because you're awesome for giving us anything. And we appreciate it. One rib. How much for a rip? One rib. All right. Hook us up and go buy a t-shirt. They're actually pretty awesome.

Yeah, buy a hoodie too. Yeah. And a sticker. Damn, I got to get a hoodie. Featured attractions. This week, we're going to play with toys from the brand new imaginary as well as 2019. Benny loves you. Oh God.

Is it 2019 or 2018? Does it matter? Yeah, whatever. Benny loves you. This is Benny. As long as you have him by your side, nothing can ever hurt you. Not even a demon's in the hallway.

Apart from them. I'm in the area with a buyer on Monday. Let's get quite lonely. It's more of a family home. I have to get this finished. Lots of people are saying you're already finished. You haven't evolved. I can't send my creative director to New York in a Goody's T-shirt.

Jack, a man desperate, it's on two. Jack, a man desperate to improve his life. Of course it is. Of course it is. Throws away his beloved childhood plush, Benny. It's a move that has disastrous consequences when Benny springs to life with deadly intentions. director and writer sounds sounds good carl holt also known for a segment in the pandemic anthology uh i don't know what that is um this included the films this is included in the film's credits

all characters and events depicted in this film are entirely fictitious any similarity to actual events or persons living or dead is purely coincidental apart from benning coming to life and killing everyone. That bit, that bit is totes true. Laders. They definitely knew what they were going for. Yeah, I think they did. Hey, do you want to start us off? What did you think

about Benny? No, not at all. That's just fucking horrible. Who fucking came up with this shit? I mean, this wasn't those after dark? Director and writer. Yeah, I know, but, no, I mean, wasn't this like, what, didn't they have those like Amazon.com, like, like after dark or Hulu after dark movies Brian?

Yeah. This was one of those? Was this one of those? No, not that I know. Huh. Okay, for some reason I thought it was part of that series, but I don't know, man. Honestly, I saw it a week and a half ago,

and I don't even remember all of it because it was just that bad to me. Usually I love British humor, man. Like, normally it fits a British film, especially like a, you know, a horror comedy. I'm going to be in all the way. And I like the concept. And I think that's what bothers me the most.

I just didn't care for the execution. But maybe you can educate me, Brian. And then after you start talking about a couple of scenes like that I can't remember right now, then I'll be able to talk a little more educated. Well, first of all, I got to start with saying I enjoyed the music. It was very nice. Like on Elm Street-esque with the pianos. The do-do do-do, do, you know.

Yeah, okay, cool. Start with something positive, right? I liked it. I thought it was funny. I like that he not only wrote, directed, and produced, and started it. I mean, you can call it a vanity picture. And usually vanity pictures don't come out great, because it's usually all about how, look how awesome I am.

and like like veronica or like uh what was that rock girl nightmare oh that's definitely a vanity project yeah it just shows you how a fucking awesome thor is john michael thor is through that this on the other hand or under under the cherry moon when i saw that in the theater everybody cheered when prince died so sorry go ahead this is different than other vanity pictures because he's not to look how great I am he's he's a fucking loser from the beginning sure you know lives with his parents

you know can't get a girl you know I thought that scene was funny when he brought the date home and then she saw the childhood stuff all over the walls and you thought she saw a horror picture oh yeah like 40 year old virgin yeah I like the opening scene

with the little girl the little brat kid and I like the mom was just like looking up how to deal with her and everybody was like I belt my kid all the time and then she like lunches around this fucking face shit coming out

I don't know I kind of enjoy the British humor and I thought I thought the whole handling of Benny was was just funny to me just this little puppet who only says a few things

but when you listen to him, even though he says a few things, they're at the right times when the police are investigating on, they're like, you know, who could have done this? And then you hear Benny loves you, Benny did it, you know. I thought the one scene was super fun, the office murder scene. Oh, yeah, that one was fun. Okay, sure. Somebody got killed with a baguette. Yeah, and there were a couple of them where you could tell they were like, okay, that's not an actor. That's somebody from the set. Exactly.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I just, I thought it was, I could see the work that was put into this movie. Because I think this was filmed over years. It wasn't just something that I think he had to finance it and film it over when he had time to film it, you know, because you know, you've got to work and you've got to provide for yourself. You can't just

work on movies sometimes. It doesn't work like that. And I just respect his hustle on it. And I laughed a bunch of times in this movie. I thought, shit, I want Benny

to sit on my shelf with my collection. That's how much I like Benny. Right. It may develop a thought. He liked it a lot more than I did, Philip. Let's put it that way. I...

My only problem with this movie, I think, is that it was... Oh, no. ...is that it was maybe a little bit long. Yeah. It would have made a great, great ten-minute segment. Yeah, like, had this been a Saturday at Live skit? Dude. Yes, it would have been awesome.

but a whole full-length movie is maybe a little much but I loved I loved like the the movement of Benny like just bouncing on strings and shit like they they know what kind of movie they're doing and they embrace it fully and fair enough and so it's it's it's it's definitely like in that so bad it's good category

Yeah, right. But like, I don't know. But not that good. Yeah, like, it was maybe just a little much. You can't take it too serious because they don't take themselves too serious. Right. You got the co-worker, that's a big fan of the asshole co-worker, that's a big fan of Prince, that his name is Richard, but he pronounces it Richard.

Which is a great. Right. And they keep calling back to the comedy bits, and they do it really well. It's got some definitely really funny moments in it. And some relatively brutal kills. Like, it gets a little bit creative. It's better than most of the... From a soft animal on a string.

Yeah. It's better than most of the shit slasher movies I've watched lately. Okay. If you got to say so. All right. Scores, Lance, what do you think? Go three. Ouch.

But not super fair, though, because like I was telling Brian, Philip, I literally forgot huge swaths of the movie. But I couldn't agree with you more. Dude, you nailed it. That's exactly what I was thinking when I was watching it. This would be a great skit. Yeah. You know, like a 10, 15-minute skit,

but. Or maybe if you're going to have it this long, maybe cut it up into maybe into a web series. Yeah. Okay.

I could see that. I could see that. I could see that. But like a short and an anthology or something. Dude, this would kill it. Right.

That's what we need. A horror comedy anthology. Nobody's done that yet. Shit. Get on that. And one of our British listeners let us know is custard cream really that good?

because that cop was ready to fight over it. No kidding. Right. He was demanding he have some custard cream. Like it's not your house, dude. Yeah. He got so mad too. He was, what is he?

Oh, yeah. It's the generic version anyways. I didn't want any. Oh, yeah. That old, uh, saying, huh? Well, I didn't want it anyway. Well, he cleaned up a bloody house pretty quick. Yeah, his partner was.

Harder's holding it back. It's not worth it. Right. Like he's had this problem before. Brian, what do you think? It's six and a half, I think, is fair. I laugh more than I didn't. Like I said, I just really respect

what he did and how to make the movie, to get it made. film the puppetry. I know Lance doesn't like the way Benny was moving, but it just, the movie knows what it is. Yeah,

that is true. That is true. I can't argue with that. And it was ridiculous on purpose. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking, six and a half. I had a better time with this one than I thought I was

going to. Like, I was expecting this movie to be shit. And it was actually pretty entertaining. It kept me out. We'll move on to our brand new one. Hey kids. Do you want a friend who will never leave your side? Introducing Chauncey the Bears.

He'll never leave you. Never ever. It's nice to see you again, Alice. Jessica told me you've been spending time with a new friend. He doesn't want me to talk to you. Chauncey? My favorite thing is his eyes. I can see anything I can imagine in them.

He asks you to do something that hurt you. A woman returns to her childhood home to discover that the imaginary friend she left behind is very real and unhappy she abandoned him. Hmm. Pretty good description, actually. Yeah. Director is Jeff Wadlow, also known for Fantasy Island and Truth or Dare. Oh, boy.

Yeah, didn't know. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Well, maybe he's grown, Brian. Maybe he's grown. Let's see. Writers are Jeff Wadlow, Greg Erb, and Jason Orimland. Greg Erb?

Jeff Wadlow and his herb, maybe? Greg Herb. I don't know. Director Jeff Botto cited Poultergeist as an influence on this movie. Of course he did. I can see that.

It perfectly strikes the balance between scares and this benign sense of wonder and excitement and emotion that you get when you have a family that you care about. Does it, though?

The first trailer, which premiered in front of Five Nights at Freddy's consisted of almost entirely sound effects over a blank screen, encouraging audiences to use their imagination. Do you get it? Might have been a better movie. Oh, this will be fun. All right.

So, Lance, I think we've already got a gist of how you felt about this movie, but we'll get there. Brian, why don't you go first? You know what? I'm going to be fair. This movie isn't for me, but I think it's a great introductional horror movie for young kids. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because it's not it's not full horror because there's elements of fantasy in there. Yes. Like a lot. I think the like elaborate a little bit. Yeah. I think the mythology they were trying to build here was pretty cool. But the movie didn't really get exciting for me. until the last 20 minutes when they went to,

we'll get to their spoilers. Freddy Krueger Land or whatever. Yeah. If we would have got more of that in the movie, I probably would have enjoyed it more. But it just really, it just felt like, because my youngest daughter, this is, she's too old now.

She's about to be 14. This wouldn't work with her. See, and mine turns 11 tomorrow, actually. And she loved it. Oh, nice. That's good to hear, man. So it hit its target audience then. And I think that is the target audience.

But I didn't see. My daughter didn't have any interest in this. So I saw it by myself. And maybe if I would have seen it with her or took one of my nieces or nephews and my younger nieces and nephews and they enjoyed it, it probably would have worked better with me. but I just felt like it took a while to get to where it needed to go. And then when it got there, I was like, okay, this is pretty fucking cool what they're trying to do here. Because I thought everybody was fine in the movie.

I didn't hate anybody. Even not Bill Scarsgaard, the guy that played the father. Not Bill Scarsgard. It disappeared for most of the movie. Right, right. Not Bill Scarsgard. I love it. And I thought the main actress, I'm trying to.

DeWanda Weiss. I thought she was pretty good. Uh-huh. And I thought the little girl, I did get, the little girl was cool. I thought she did a pretty good job for, you know, her age and what she had to do. But I got really irritated with the older daughter, but that's not the fault of the actress. I felt like that's, she was supposed to be irritating. Right. So I guess in that.

Well, yeah. I guess in that, that way, you know, she did a good job because I was. in my head I was thinking of all the stuff I would have did if this was my daughter. But with all that being said, I think it's a decent introduction movie for kids, but it just didn't really work all the way from me. Okay. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, this is another one of those I kind of went in expecting the hate. You know, I thought, number one, I did already do the notes before I went to see the movie, so I knew what else.

this guy interacted. That might have poisoned my mind a little bit going in, but I was like, okay, I took Brian's approach. I was like, I'm going to give this a fair shot, and it actually started out pretty decent. I kind of believed the family dynamics, and with me being a stepfather, like all my kids are not biologically mine. So that is a tough role to play, and they did do a twist on it. They didn't do the evil stepmother, as they typically do.

99.9% of all movies and I thought that was refreshing and you're right you're definitely right Brian the little girl was she played her part well. Yeah she had seen in there the I thought she did real well the therapy

scene. Yeah that was kind of creepy man and the therapist and not too bad I mean that's where it kind of lost me though like not to go into it yet because we're going to do it in spoilers but like something that, you know, somebody saw

but he didn't or whatever, but I don't know, man. I thought it started out okay because they had decent character development. Just like you brought out, I kind of liked everybody. Not Bill Scarsgar. He did exit stage left pretty fucking early. And that was a little

too, that was a little too on the notes, man, just to get him out of there, you know. Very weird, right? I got to go on tour now. I'm going to leave you in this brand new house and with your brand new family. You got it? Good. I'm out of here. He's like

Bill Sparsberg meets Harry Stiles. Oh! That's it. You nailed it. Oh, meets Dame to Han. Yeah. But, um... I don't know. I mean... So,

I actually kind of like the setup. I was kind of like going with it and all that. And once they did get to that therapist scene, it started losing me there. Unlike you, Brian, the part later on that you kind of enjoyed more. It really lost me there, unfortunately. It was neat. It was real

callback to like Nightmare on Elm Street, Dream Warriors type stuff and all that. But, I don't know, man. It didn't really match the rest of the movie, huh? Well, not really. And then, kind of uneven. I think that's because it took so long to get there. I think so, too.

Fair enough. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It's a good way to put it. There's a lot of build up. I thought it was just to be your basic thing like you got in smile, where they go and meet somebody who's the, you know, the person who knows all the secrets and tells everything, but it turned out a little different than that, which I got to give them credit for the twist there.

It was a little bit twisty, that one particular character that you thought was going to be so helpful, you know, ended up going shit crazy there at the end, which is kind of funny. Man, I don't know, without spoiling anything. for sure yeah for sure the little guy

that came over that was making everybody thinking it was Molly but it was like his mom's allergy pills that was some good good little comedy relief I got a laugh out of that

zero game yeah and you bring the bottle over and then immediately break it I know what an idiot what an idiot man I don't want to go into spoilers

yet to do on it. What did you think, villain? Yeah, like, I felt like I felt like it had a pretty good base going. Yes. The setup was all there. And then, yeah, like, the

end of it was, it was interesting, but I felt like it didn't really match with the rest of the movie. Like, it, the tone changed to the whole movie. I feel like everybody did

like less of an acting job once they got there. Does that make sense? That does make sense. Yeah, it does make sense. The stepmother, it's like she was like, I'm done with this fucking movie. Oh, no.

She exited the stage left along with not Harry Styles, not Bill Scarsgard, huh? Sort of phoned in the end of it, I felt like. But character development was good. Like it was halfway. It was halfway there. Right.

Like it had a lot of potential. Man, I saw it a week. Not even a week ago. And I've already forgotten most of it. Well, what did you guys think about the opening scene with the spider effects? I thought that was kind of interesting. You know, where she was having the nightmare? I like the...

Very CGI heavy. I like to look, but I don't like the... How it looked, if that makes sense. I like... That makes perfect. I like the side, but not how they ended up doing it. Even later when we see Chauncey, the girls' bear, changes in the form. I like what they were going for.

Okay. But I was just sitting there like, you could have did this better. Yeah, it was... I could see that. sort of a callback what they did with that thing, but I felt like they maybe could have teased it a little more during the movie.

Yeah. Or something. I don't know. There's definitely some different things that they could have done to make this a good movie. Like it had all the pieces there. A lot, they could, right? You can admit, at least it wasn't just like your haunted teddy bear

movie, right? It was a little more... It wasn't bad. That's kind of interesting. I'm looking at the box office. It's already doubled its budget. And I think if they choose to do a second one, I think I honestly think the second one will be better than the original one if they choose to do another one. Yeah. Charles Chatsy's return? Yeah, because like Phil's saying, there's elements here.

It's just they didn't execute them right. Yeah. It reminded me a little bit, especially towards the end of Insidious, the Last Key. Oh, when that went to the... Ouch, out. Not the upside down. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The inside out or where the fuck it's called? The further. The further. The further. The poultry guys hanging out. I don't fucking know.

The place we wanted them to go in the last movie more, but they didn't. Yeah. So that's where I'm at. I think it had a lot of potential and it maybe didn't. It fouled off the ball a little bit. Okay. Foul tip, huh? Yeah.

Kind of like White Russell's character in Night swim. I forgot he was even in that movie until I saw until I saw some little. propaganda thing. That is one of your favorite movies, Lance, because you really remember a lot of scenes. It is. It's definitely in my top half for the year so far, for sure. All right. Well, hopefully the year will go better. Brian. Yes, no doubt.

What was your score on this one before we get into spoilers? Like I said, if you got kids maybe around Phil's age or a little bit younger that you want to get them into horror, this is the perfect movie. It's for adult horror fans, this is very tame. Yeah, true. Not painfully, painfully tame, right? Yeah. Not really a lot of violence. I only remember blood like a couple times.

Maybe. Wasn't there blood like coming out beneath the door or something like that? Yeah, we'll get to that. Literally it? Okay. Yeah. But other than that, I think the acting was kind of fine. I do kind of see where Phil's saying that the lead actress, what is her name?

Let me look it up again. DeWanda Weiss, I kind of see where maybe she gave up and phoned it in a little bit near the end. Because she was killing her at the beginning. Pulled her Dakota Johnson, did she? Yeah. Dakota phoned it in when the credits ran. The opening credits. So I'm not saying don't go watch it, but if you're going to take the kids,

it's a I give it a 5.5. Damn, okay. Almost on night swim level. No, I, what, for your score? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Because that's not what I gave nice one. Okay.

All right, Lance. Four on ten. Four on ten. Yeah, we invoked Garrett's name earlier. Let's invoke it again, Brian. I don't know what to give this movie. I guess I'm going to go five. That's, yeah, five's the safe, safe bad.

Yeah, because, like, I didn't hate it. I just don't know that I liked it. It's, it's, it's going to be one of those where we get to the end of the year, and I'm trying to make little bit. It would be like, oh, I forgot I watched that movie. Yes, yeah. I was really hoping this was going to be. be this year's

Megan. Yeah, I was, I was too. Megan was a happy surprise. I expected that. Hey, can we agree that this really is

this director's best work? Yeah, by far. Okay, yeah. Cool. So we read that what he's done. Yeah.

But yes, this is Avengers end game. He's. I know about that. He's crawled his way out of the perpetual bottom 10 for me. me, I think. Well, he seems to

fit the Blum House. This is what we need you to do. Yes, that's right. Absolutely. Here's your budget. Yeah. Make us a movie. And, you know, maybe it's good. They went PG-13 with this one, because like you said, it's a good intro movie. My daughter loved it.

That's cool. Yeah, that means a lot, man. Yeah, but, yeah, like, had they gone a little higher rating on this one, it probably would have been really stupid. Gosh, he did kick-ass too. A lot of people hate that movie. People don't like his movies. I like the first one.

I don't really remember the second one that much. Yeah, me too. The one with Jim Carrey? Jim Carrey was in Kick-Ass too? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Although, if you look it up, he was. Why do I not remember that?

Yeah, he was. He played. He was like the Riddler type character, isn't he? Colonel Stars and Stripes. Turned stars and storms. Dude, I don't remember that movie at all. Ouch, out. I just remember it because

he did. The movie's like super violent, has a lot of guns in it. And then when the movie came out, all of a sudden he had this anti-gun stance and didn't want to promote the movie. And everybody was just like, the fuck,

you just made the damn movie. Yeah, well, I got paid. Now I'm going to have an anti-stance about it. I just. Now I'm just, I got my money. I wouldn't have I wouldn't have been mad at it because Jim Jim does what he does He's weird. He can't explain you ever seen his artwork his paintings that he does and stuff

Have you ever seen when he shows up to like random like Red card of red red red carpet events? Oh Uh-uh. I haven't seen him and then he'll ask the interviewer like super weird questions and they're just like He's a strange cat He's on something. He's on something too, Philip, but it ain't steroids. Yeah, man. Jim Carrey's a weird dude. But he's, he's an interesting guy. Dave Chappelle's got a whole bit on him on a man on the moon. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was so much in character.

Yeah, he was so in character that he wanted to be called Andy Kaufman. That's who he was. A whole time, right. Like, he said, Chappelle, Chappelle, Chamele said, I didn't even fucking get to me. Jim Carrey. And then I watched that man on the moon documentary. It was actually really good. It was interesting. Yeah.

Okay. Anyway. It was more interesting this movie. All right. Well, I mean, that kind of fit with Andy Kaufman, because when he would do characters, he was full on in that character. Also, true. I guess if you're going to tap into him, you know, method actors are always weird.

But yeah, five on this one. I thought it was all right. It's going to, I'm going to forget about it here. Very safe fit, straddling score. Yep, that's where I live. All right, spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Into further. I really, I really like the end when we went into the, I guess we'll call it the further for this. Sure.

Example. I call it Freddie Krugerland, but, you know. Yeah. I just like that. That was where children get taken under the impression that all their dreams come true, come true, whatever they want, happen. as long as they can use their imagination. I liked all that. And I liked Betty Buckley's character,

the old woman that used to babysit her and was obsessed with it and was trying to get there. And you could have made a whole movie about that. Like that should have been the sequel. And it will be. Oh, she's dead now, so. Well, but I mean, there's more to come. I mean, if you're saying this movie,

this made any money at all in its plum house, you know they're going to make more of them. Or they could have gotten there much, much earlier. It's like that final act started happening and it was a totally... Yeah, it's like... Betty Buckley comes in

to the movie, like, in the first, like, 20, 30 minutes, and then she disappears in the second, or the last half. and I thought I don't know I like I like the whole introduction of this other world

and I like the way you have to get there you have to do the little scavenger hunt which was kind of fucked up because of course especially the one you got to do something to hurt yourself

and that little girl was going to and I like Chauncey is such a asshole that he bait He made the nail look like a flower. Yeah, I think she should have slammed her hand on the nail. And that would have been a super memorable scene. But it was PG-13, like painfully PG-13, right there?

Yeah, so the stepmom comes and knocks the board away and she grazes the nail. Yeah. I didn't see that coming. I thought she gets this baby scratch on her hand. I'm like, yeah. Dude, I get that on my knuckles every fucking day. Of course you did. Yeah, from the trailer, I thought she was going to really do it, right?

And that's my problem with the dad. There's something going on with your daughter. She's trying to impale her hand on a rusty nail. Yeah. And you go on tour? I'm on tour. He's like, bye guys. Peace.

Clearly. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And don't worry, honey. Oh, sorry. Brian, and don't worry, honey.

I won't be doing any cocaine or hookers. It didn't seem real to me. You just moved into this house. Yeah, that was so much place. Clearly, there's something going on with your wife when it comes to this house, how she has zero memories from this house and something bad here happened. And you're going to just leave her alone with your children. The daughter clearly is like begging you, please take me with you.

Don't leave me here with you. And then your youngest is going. through all this shit and then you're just like got a gig, I'm out of here. Yeah, that's hilarious. Got my hat and my scarf. Right. Yeah.

Got to pay for the house. Well, it's her father's house. Yeah. Well, you Philip, you talked earlier about the old lady's death. That was kind of a comic relief, wasn't it? When she got grabbed and pulled it.

She said, that anything could happen here dream man i didn't get a chuckle out of that but i like how they didn't want her because she had no imagination yeah that's true brian brian yes they should have had they should have had bennie materializing that room that grab the old lady benny pops up yeah oh no Well, and they had like a couple of really creepy moments where they did the, you know, like the voice of the bear was kind of the same as the girls, but it like she wasn't talking at all.

Oh, yeah. Had it on videotape. And then they just fucking didn't do anything with it at all. And it was kind of stupid. Why is it not alarming to the therapist? Yeah. When this happens and you got it on video and then you find out the stepmom thinks she's. sees Chauncey too what's going on here here's a number to call somebody else I'm out of

here too yeah here's somebody I know that that also does this kind of work right buying so she which she never calls that number so right it should have been like the exorcist guy and in the paranormal activity movies where he's like I'm out of my depth here when when she gave that number she called. It should have been Betty Buckley picking it up because she's wrote books on it. True, true. All right.

Yeah, I mean, there's not too much to spoil. Yeah, we've run this to the end of the ground, haven't we? Yeah. Well, it's just that last scene to me kind of gets me. It takes you out of it. Yeah. It's interesting. It doesn't go with anything else that happened in the movie. It's like a totally separate movie. It's like that. What are we doing the third act to make it real big? Yeah, I agree. If they would have introduced the idea of the world earlier in the movie,

like maybe the little girl brings it up because this is where Chonsie says I can go if I finish my scavenger hunt. Oh, that would have been fucking awesome, Brian. I think Brian just rewrote the movie. And then the stepmom was like, what do you mean? Tell me about this world. And then, well, Chonsie says, this happens there. And that happens. and, you know, then we know what to expect, not to get into the last 20 minutes, and bam, we're just going through this magical door into this new world.

Yeah, this could have been like the ring and then you go into the well, you know? Yeah. Or, or you could have gone in there and Timothy Chalemay is singing, it's a world of pure imagination. Uh-huh. Okay, all right.

That was the best song in that movie. That's the problem. you guys ready to wrap I think we'll end it off to be showing up in imaginary all right well as always as always we want to thank you guys

for listening to another episode of the horror returns you can find us at our website thehorrorreturns.com which I don't know how many more months we're going to own that and what they're going to charge us to re-up it but we'll figure it out

or send us an email go to our Facebook page. Our Facebook age is exploding. Brian, what did you do, man? I just changed a few things I'm posting, which I noticed started to get more

attraction. Traction. Yeah, and then which led them to find out that we also post news and trailers and other things. It's been blown up. I believe we jumped from

forgot where we was, but I think we gained like 4,000 followers in the past week and a half. Awesome. Philip, what do you think about that, ma'am? I know a lot are. Just reminding me to say,

do not post comments that'll get you removed. I'm not fucking planned. I don't care. If you're right or wrong, what side you are, if I ask you not to do it, don't post it. again. That's all I got to say. More than fair. More than fair. It's out there. And if you're following the website,

that means the internet. And some of, Phil, some of the places where the post that I do, that they do the comments, it makes no damn sense why you would usually. Yeah. I don't know. Well, one guy tried to play into it. He was like, oh, this picture is pretty horrific. You want to know the real

horror in this country and I was like oh no not the place for that but but all our new followers everybody's been super cool a lot of a lot of feedback lands could probably just do feedback of the past couple weeks for the next couple months if he wanted to yeah definitely post on the on the facebook group we'll see if we can get you mentioned yeah you'll be internet famous to our 57 listeners. A lot more than that now, man. It has gone up. I will say that the number numbers have gone up to the last

three or four months. So thanks everybody for listening. Seriously. I mean, we really appreciate it. That's why we fucking show up every week, right? Well, you got to show up every week. I show up every third week, you know. Action is returning soon. Streamfeens is returning soon. I hope so. I just... I was not in a place.

I was just not in a place mentally to record. And not in the actual physical place to be all set up. But I'm in my new place. And we will get a new Action Returns episode out here. That's the next episode to come out because me and Nez realized we haven't done one since, I think, last year. Okay. So, it's all coming. All right.

Well, speaking of Nez, he. did reach out to me and said he would like to record the Ghostbusters episode with us if we make that happen so sure um you know we'll see about that but next week more new stuff with Ghostbusters Frozen Empire as well as Ghostbusters 2 so uh so Brian until the horror returns again baby loves you perfect all right guys