The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #409: Ghostbusters II (1989) & Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024)

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

This week, Pedro joins us to bust some ghosts. Cool of the week includes Immaculate, Late Night with the Devil, 3 Body Problem, and The Oldest View. Trailers are In a Violent Nature and Humane. The podcast spotlight shines on Sinisterhood. And we get feedback from Lars from Denmark, Xim Vader, Ariel Wellman, Matthugh McFarlane, Glen Denyse, Lilliana Molina Allamby, Tamara Moon, and Tonia Williams. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance, with me as always. I've got my co-host, Brian, and my co-host Phillip. And our very special guest slash co-host in the middle is Pedro back again. What's up? Yeah, I pretty much have a little cot, a little bed here in this apartment, so I'm always with you guys now. Which is awesome, by the way. I love it. No, you guys killed it on March Madness, man.

Oh, I had a great time. It was fun going through that tournament. It was even more fun for the fact that I didn't have to host, which was always nice. Yeah. I got to kick back and just enjoy the show and throw in my two cents from time to time. That was good. Well, we need a little bit of a guy perspective on that one. Yeah. Well, Philip was great, too. Philip kicked that, you know, you had a home run on that one as well.

You were awesome. And Brian. Well, we had to wake Brian up a couple times there. But he did his part as well. All right. Well, thanks for coming back, man. It's Ghostbusters week. So we're going to see if Bustin makes you feel so good.

but in the meantime what's that right what happened what show is this well y'all were doing a female empowerment show and now we're talking about busting making you feel so good so like how did we end up here think you brought us here pedro what's your cool of the week man well i mean i have a couple of them um i did i did text you off there and i was like just going to the movies was my my cool of the week this week um so uh you know i for whatever reason i had a whole day right i had a whole day i think on thursday and i was like let me go check out this new ghostbusters movie because i want to do the whole imax thing um sure and hold on and um did you get the d box what is that no no no no no no actually i didn't i think that's um we do have a theater that offers

that but yeah but i didn't go i didn't i didn't do that So I looked at the schedule and I was like, holy shit, Immaculate starts right after Ghostbusters. And then I looked at the schedule again, I'm like, holy shit, late night with the devil starts right after that. So I was like, you know, I have that AMC Stubbs gimmick that, you know, I've rarely used nowadays because there's been nothing but shit that day that's come out. So I was like, I get three movies a week. Could I do the three movies in one day? That was my thing. So I did, it doesn't work.

I did order three tickets for three different showings, which was awesome. Now the thing is, could I stay awake for all three of them? That's the multi-million dollar question. That's the tough part. You know, that was my thing when I was younger. And I used to love doing that. I used to go to the movie theater, and I was spent all day there. You know, in my 20s, I would love that stuff.

You know, you would let the movies stack up, and then you just go one day and just just fucking knock them all out. I had a bunch of years. So I'm like, you know what? I got the whole day. which is rare. Let me go do this shit. You know, let me, let me fucking make three movies out of this. I'm looking forward to all three of them.

And so, yeah, I made a whole day out of there. I took my little break in between, you know, it was at a mall, so I got to go eat. And two out of the three films delivered. And that's all I'll tease it with that. Oh, that's all you're going to say for now. Okay. So we're not going to get reviews yet? No, no, well, because you're going to, I believe you're going to bring one up.

And then one of them is. Yeah. feature here. And I guess I could talk about Immaculate. That was a fucking great movie. It just really surprised the fuck out of me. I just couldn't believe that I was watching like a straight up fucking 1970s exploitation film like on the big screen with a big release. Like that was so fucking weird to me. How cool is that? It's fucking cool. It was like and then I love how engaged the crowd that I was watching it with was, you know, usually these kind of films they turn people off and you see people walking out of the theater.

No, in this case, people were there. They were cheering. They were really into it. And the film was excellent. That ending. Yes, that is going to piss off a lot of people in particular part. Okay. I'll say about that because we don't want to spoil it.

But that ending took a lot of balls. I think Sidney Swinney, is that her name? Sydney. Sweeney. I think she swung for the fence. and she hit it out, I think she was really invested. Usually when you see these actresses make these kind of films, it's almost like they're above them, you know?

And it's like, well, I just get through this. I know I know her fiancé produced it, so maybe she was just doing him a favor, you know, shit like that. And I know she gets along with the director too because she had already worked with him in the past. But so for a lot of these, you know, like in actors, they're doing it as a favor, you know? But not her, man.

She fucking went all in on this fucking, character, this film. There's just a little boobage action. If you look close enough, that's not why I watch films for, but hey, bonus is a bonus. And so just everything about it, like she was all in.

And you could also tell, and we'll get to this when we talk about late night with the devil as well. You could also tell when a film has heart, and by that I mean when everybody really believes in it, like it bleeds through the story. screen, you know, and you could really fill it as, as an audience member. And I love that shit, because the opposite is also true. You could also tell when people are going through the

motion, which we'll get to in the big feature of tonight, in my opinion anyway. Okay. And so I had a great time with this film. It's just, in this day and age, when theaters are struggling for them to take a chance on a movie like this one, which is just fucking griny and dirty and just, but it's also very scary. And it just, everything was past so well. It flies by. It's like 89 minutes or something like that. So you're in and out. It's a fucking movie. Good movie. I give it a 7 on 10, maybe even 8 on 10. The ending was amazing. It's very tense throughout. And it keeps you guessing. Like there's like the little, you know, layers of an onion. You're just peeling through them and you're trying to find out what's going on.

Yeah. It's it's, it was that was my, that was a fucking awesome time. And that was before I saw late with the devil because that was the headliner on that night for me. Yes, that's right. That was going to be my next question is I didn't hear the third movie. Late Night with the Devil, that's the one I want to go see. Yes, and that's another amazing movie, but I'll talk about it a little later on. And then I saw Ghostbusters, and then we'll talk about it later on. Okay.

So that's my cool of the week, just getting to go to the movies and spending all day there. It was fucking awesome. I didn't go sleep, which has been, I've just closed on this show that I've had a hard time staying up just for one movie. the theater because I'm old and because I I find her gimmicks you know once you lay back on them you're out no matter how good the movie is but not on this and on this night I was up and it was all good um don't you miss your sticky uncomfortable 80 seats no I have bad knees and and I need those recliners um and then I another cool of the week is that I started revisiting those Marvel Netflix shows

I've been going through them. Okay, like Daredevil and Luke Cage, Iron Fis, the defenders. And I'm watching them again because I know that they're canon now. And, you know, I like to revisit the MCU from time of time. So I forgot how good these. Yeah, yeah, they're canon. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because I think Daredevil, the new Daredevil comes out later in this year.

So I just kind of want to catch up on stuff. And I forgot how good of those shows were and how different they were. They're so grimy and like the violence is so hardcore on them. But also the writing is really good. I mean, other than the defenders and Iron Fist, I think the three previous shows, you know, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, they're all very well-shed shows. I forgot that for Luke Cage.

They brought in like everyone from the Wire. Like the writers from the Wire, a lot of the actors that were in the Wire come out in Luke Cage. And so that was awesome, you know. And they do a great job of just really making you feel like you're in different parts of New York City, which is awesome, you know. And so, yeah, so I've been revisiting that. And for people that have never seen them or for people that have, it's been a long time, yeah, I encourage all of you to go check them out again because it's nice to just, it's refreshing to see good writing as compared to the Disney Plus MCU shows, you know, which is the opposite of the Netflix show. shows I think. I mean, a lot of those shows have struggled, just the way they tell their stories. So it was nice to see that they could actually make good shows if they treat them like TV shows

and not just like six-hour movies, which is what they've been doing with the Disney Plus shows. So yeah, so those are those have, that's been my cool of the week. Not bad. I'm going to bounce off that a little bit because I also saw Late Night with the Devil. And easy, easy cool of the week, Philip. Just just so you know, man. I'm excited about that one. I just, Philip, I can't believe in Pedro, Brian. Brian, have you seen it yet? No.

I just, I'm freaked out by how fucking realistic it looked. Because I remember when I was a kid, 77, I would have been nine years old, okay? And I remember a bunch of that shit coming on late at night, like Halloween specials, late night talk shows. And, you know, like, you knew the guys were like full of shit. Even wrestling back then, guys. Like my dad and I used to watch wrestling back in those days. I did. I did with my dad. What happened?

Well, I don't know what happened, but there was, I remember one night, there was one dude that was, like, looking at the camera, and he was, like, moving his eyes, like, left to right and, like, crossed his eyes. And I was like, I literally started getting hypnotized, like, in my own mind, you know? And I was just like, yeah, I was freaking out. out because he was like, because the wrestler said, I'm going to hypnotize everyone in the audience now. And I started like just really feeling it freaking out.

I thought it was real. I was like Kevin Sullivan because he would do stuff like that. What's it? Oh, shit. It was in Florida though, before you got to Florida. He wasn't in Texas. Well, this was in Longview, Texas, where I grew up, where we watched it on TV. But I'm, I'm sure it was wrestling from all over.

But no, no, this is not yet. Not in the 70s. it was it was still regional everybody's yeah okay all right well whatever or andrew the giant came out maybe maybe it was like northern texas or dallas oh it's probably a dallas region right because that's where the i was before that was the late 70s dallas probably right yeah okay sportatorium stuff yeah yes sportatorium that's right but but i know my shit and i know my shit lands i know i know i I know you do, man. I know you do too, Brian. But yeah, late night with the devil. I honestly thought I was watching like a 1977 TV show. And it was like in real time, right? So as you were watching it was... Great, great fucking movie. It just left me floored. After a whole day of movie watching, it just left me floor. Like, I didn't have a movie hit me like that in a long, like a horror movie in a very long time. The atmosphere was great. That production value was phenomenal.

Like you said, you felt like... No, I was... That's one of those rare movies, though, that I feel like it was made. And you could tell it was made because they do that little gimmick where they cut half of the screen because it was...

I think it was made for TV. Like, I know it's gonna be on shutter relatively soon. And so I feel like that movie would have been more impactful if you watch it in your living room, like how the show was meant to be, right? If you watch it in your living room

with your family, with all the lights off, I feel like it would have been more impactful. But it was still cool to see it the theater with a with a with a with a crowd and whatnot and just feel the tension because it's very much like immaculate it's also a movie that that's revealing things as it's going on you know yes and so it's it was very tense the atmosphere was very tense for that movie um yeah like you said i think it paid tribute to a lot of the charlatans of that era you know um yeah the skeptic guy Yeah, there was that skeptic was also, because I remember, because I'm all into that occult shit as well.

Like, I've gone through my phases where I'm on, like, I'm knee deep into those rabbit holes. And there was that one guy, remember that one guy in the 80s that would go around exposing all these guys, the guys that would bend the spoons. Yes. Forget his name, something Randy, something, but he was, he became a big thing as exposing all these charlatans. And there's a character that plays a big part in the movie. I'm not going to spoil it. But, you know, and so, yeah, so you're kind of bouncing back and forth. And he's kind of like the skeptic, though.

I'm not saying it's all bullshit, whatever, and then, you know, shut his the fan later on. But it was, it's an amazing movie. People need to support it and check it out. Although, if you can, then it is going to be streaming like a month from now. So it's probably going to be as soon, but just watching it there as well. Because I feel like this movie was made for that. James Randy. James Randy, that's right.

James Randy. Well, and I really like the, the. polka dot man like yes oh he's an great girl he had to carry it he had to carry this whole fucking movie and he was awesome he caught all the little manorisms that you see all this like this late night show holes like yes absolutely you know the little jokes peters the little jokes also like like wait still like you know how all these guys when they're doing their monologs they put their one hand in their pocket and they're like handsome miming with the other hand he did excise i was like oh shit this guy he did his research for this fucking part because he got all those little

like many rhythms down perfectly I was a little surprised when they they brought in like the grove like the rich rich guys and stuff like that they go to their secret meetings and stuff like that because we've all heard of those stories right yeah bohemian grove yeah they called it the grove they couldn't I think they couldn't call it the bohemian grove I'm down Ryan Garcia and they even they even show Mo like the aisle see I know this shit because like I said I've dug deep this shit. I'm telling you, it's really interesting. Well, Philip, you would love this movie, man.

Oh, yeah, no, I'm totally excited. Now, the thing about that Bohemian Grove is that Walter Cronkike is the voice of that how, yo, like, that's fucking creepy. Really? Like, Alex Jones snuck in there.

I watched that video, yeah. He's not for the camera. Who the fuck knows with that guy, right? Could all be a fucking ass. But the point is that he snuck in there and you could hear the owl talk like the owl's actually the fucking molek is talking yeah and he's like is that

that sounds like Walter Cronkite I knew it was Walter Cronkine from the very minute I knew it right here ladies gentlemen we're hearing it right here right now and so Walter Cawcite is trying to eat your baby okay and then at the end you know all those hood figures come and chase them off and then

the typical shit you'll cuts off but yeah so so just I think they had to bring that up because it was a plot device for the ending of the film. Sure, sure. Now, Lance, I will say this, and I did share this with you on text. I was like,

she didn't quite land for me. Yeah, I know. It was a little wacky there at the end, but what I would call the semi before the ending, that shit was fucking insane, dude. Oh, yeah, and the little actress, right, that played the possessed girl,

or maybe she was possessed, maybe she wasn't. Wow, she was good, huh? She was really, really good. And these are all Australians, too, because I did my research on this film. Really? Really? They're all from Australia. The guys that directed are from Australia.

So. No kidding. Good movie. Where's the Pocodat man from? He's like a New Zealand guy, didn't he? No, he just does a bunch of wacky things in different films. Okay. I think he's in America.

You never can't tell now. Every once in a while, you know, you see somebody in an interview and they've got like a fucking British accent. You're like, wait a minute. Yeah. Hold on. Like, Jacks. From Cincinnati.

Jacks throws all off. Like, we're like, what the, Whatever, dude. He's got the worst American accent I've ever heard. All right. Well, safe to say, we all agree. That was definitely a cool of the week, right? People need to watch it any way they can. All right. Moving on. I have one this week. I watched the three-body problem. It's a new thing on... Oh, that's awesome. I've seen the first three episodes. I love it.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking cool. It's like alien stuff. Alien invasion kind of a thing, but like from a scientific... Or is it? Or is it? Or is it? I think they make that pretty clear from the first episode. Kind of, but it's also sort of like multiple universes, right? Or is it?

They go into that a little bit. It's pretty interesting. It starts out in like the cultural revolution of Mao's China, you know? And it's... It's a cool fucking show. man, I was I was pretty impressed with it. It caught my attention for sure, and I binge the whole thing. Oh, no shit.

Yeah, they left it on, they left it totally open. I hated the ending. Ah, so there will be a season two. I hope so. Okay. Yeah, if they didn't intend on having a season two, then they totally flopped it. But yeah, it assumes there's going to be a season two. They didn't leave it on a giant cliffhanger, but.

the thing about Netflix is on it. That's on Netflix, right? Yeah. The thing about them is that lately, they cut bait, man. And that's why it's hard for me to invest in these shows because they're known to do that. I mean, before they wouldn't do that now, that they're penny-pitched a little bit. True. Like, if it doesn't meet the metrics that they want, those shows are canceled.

And there's been a few of them that have all these cult followings that never get a second season because they just fucking cancel them. And so it's hard for just invest in that. and it's like, you know, I don't want to leave the show with an open ending like that, you know? Agreed. Quick. Let's get another Adam Sandler movie. Space Man was kind of, eh.

I kind of wanted more comedy in it, but it is what it is. There's no comedy in it. That's so you really got ripped off. Right. There's a little, but it's subtle. Opera man didn't show up and start singing, that's for sure. I'm still a huge Sandler fan, though. I like just about every, even that Hubey Halloween bullshit.

it that was so fucking stupid. It was kind of fun. All right. So Brian, three-body problem. Is that yours also? I started it. I'm not far enough along to talk about it. I kind of started it late, so I didn't want to. It seemed like something I need to pay attention to, and I was getting kind of tired. Like going on, man.

Yeah. So since I was already on Netflix, I threw on the new Millie Bobby Brown. Fantasy action movie, Damsel. Oh, I watched that a couple weeks ago. Damsel. Talk about it. Never heard of that. Okay.

If you're looking for a good fantasy action adventure, it's decent. It's definitely hard not to see her. I mean, she's a young woman now, but it's still not, it's still hard to not see her as 11. They play up the sex appeal, though, especially towards the end. Yeah, it's kind of weird. You're like, holy shit, she's grown up. I don't think I want to see that. And I also, like

when Pedro mentioned, I also saw Immaculate. I agree with Pedro. She took a swing and knocked it out the part, Sydney Sweeney, which makes up for... Adam Webb? Yeah, which she didn't even take the swing at all. Nobody did.

I know you guys... I haven't even been on to Barry the fuck out of that movie. Like, that fucking movie was just... That's one of those movies that it makes you wonder, like, how the fuck does that get through all these fucking suits? And I know they have their little formula, right, which is what's wrong with Hollywood. That's why I call it McHawleywood, the assembly line of movie making. And it's like, God damn, but that one, they really, they weren't even closed, you know? It's just, what audience were they trying to reach with that?

Like, I don't know. And I hope they learned their lesson from that film because they're probably going to blame everyone else except them, you know? and that's what they tend to do. But that movie was just horrendous. And everybody has already buried it, so I'm not going to bury it anymore. But nobody fucking tried in that movie. People ran Dakota Johnson talked shit in the press tour. She talked shit about that fucking movie.

So, you know, I feel bad for the director, though, because who knows what's... That's the kind of shit that kills the director's career. And who even knows if it was what was her saying, what wasn't. But, yeah, it's just horrendous fucking movie. I wonder about that on a lot of movies now. I'm like, who are you trying to make this movie for? I feel like they... I feel like they had a release date that needed to be filled.

They went through all the papers that was sitting on the desk in the little bin. They were like, Madam Webb, Spider-Man character. Let's do it. But even, okay, but even, with this film's even worse, because there's fundamentals that are fucked up in this film. I understand when a movie's bad and nobody ever wants to make a bad movie, right? We know that. But the fun, like, we know that the lead here in this film, if you like movies, you know, he's a guy that has, he has a hard time talking English. We know that because he's not, he's not an American.

But the dubbing here was fucking, like, horrendous. Like, there's a scene for, he's not talking. Like, we could see that the guy's not talking, but there's dialogue coming out of his mouth. How does that get through the editing? Like, like, you could tell it was overdue, you know? And it's like, little things like that is will make this movie more of an embarrassment than it already is.

And Pedro, I know what's the scene you're talking about perfectly because for a second hour, I was like, is he telepathic? And then I was just like, no, it's bad doving. Seems like two scenes in the movie, you'd be like, hey, can we put a mask on this guy or something? He has a Spider-Man costume.

It doesn't. Because it doesn't show that he wears it. Sometimes he's wearing it. Sometimes he doesn't. They don't follow their own logic. His death is fucking ridiculous with that Pepsi sign. Yes, I'm giving it away. You can stream it already if you want. It's just

fucking ridiculous. That movie, I don't know. That's the kind of movie that really it's mind-boggling how it gets made. And it's fucked up because you know there's so many original scripts laying there of these great possible films and they waste one on shit like this, you know? Just ridiculous.

Yeah, they talked about it over on the Geeks podcast. Sony turned down, well, they were going to make it, but decided not to a Batman Beyond animated movie that was going to be in the same style of the Spider-verse. Oh, wow. And they showed the pictures, and it looked amazing. That'd be cool. So where's that movie?

They dropped it. Okay, sure. I don't know. they thought this was too good for us. I guess. Nobody will ever think this great idea came from us. That's Sony, Brian?

Sony. Yikes. So is your cool of the week of Sony movie then? No. I'm going to go different this week. I checked out, I was listening to the Final Guys podcast. I've been trying to catch up on their podcast. And one of the hosts brought up a

YouTuber that, I guess, based off of the work he's done on his YouTube channel got signed by A24. Oh, wow. Okay. And the web series he was talking about is called The Oldest View. And it's a four-part series. You can skip one and four and just watch the second and third episodes.

It's about a guy who he's a blogger. He finds his holes in this kind of, he trespasses in this area. He's not supposed to be. He finds this tree that has a whole. hole in the ground that has a staircase that just goes down I think that that's like majority of the the second episode is how far the stairs go and when he finally gets to the bottom it's a shopping mall an abandoned shopping mall under underground yeah and oh wow okay shit starts to happen I don't want to really give it away but the main

thing that I thought was amazing is everywhere he's walking in is not real he did it himself with special effects. Oh, I think I know you're talking about. Yeah. And apparently when he made this, he was 16 years old in high school. Oh, wow. Okay. It's impressive.

Way more impressive than anything that was in Madam Webb. So that's what I wonder when I see like the really shitty special effects in some of these movies and you're like... Yeah. How many millions of dollars did you spend? on this fucking movie. It's, it makes you think who, like Pedro said, who's running, who's making these decisions because he makes something that I've seen, as far as the CGI-wise, better than multi-million dollar movies.

And these big companies don't pick him up. It's A-24 that picks him up. Right. Well, it's like, it's like this new Godzilla movie that's going to come out. This new Godzilla versus Kong. It's like when I see this trailer, it just looks like one of those films that was made by the suits, you know? And to me, I'm still watching a cartoon. I was telling Lance, like, I hope they fix the CGI because all I'm saying is like all these fucking little cartoon monkeys running around.

Yes. That's how it looked. That is the final product. There's going to be some shit talking when this shit comes out because, God damn, that looks horrible. Especially because you know it's going to be compared to minus one, which was phenomenal. I can't. I can't compare the two. They're two totally different things.

I mean, people are going to do that. It's just the way people are. And so it's going to be, well, I mean, minus one was definitely the better movie. I mean, I could say that right now. I don't do an absolutes in my life because that's always wrong. But I will say this right now, right? Godzilla minus one is better than this fucking Godzilla versus Kong movie that's going to come out next week or this week or whatever. It's got to be.

Absolutely, yeah. There'll be no comparison, man. But we're going to go see it, aren't we, Brian? Yeah. So, Brian, what's your cool of the week? What is it called? The oldest view, and the guy, his YouTube channel is Ken Pixels. His real name is Ken Parsons.

He's the one that I think he's about, I think he's like 18, 19 now. And he, based off of these web series, he's got to deal with A24. Nice. Yeah, look forward to seeing him and some more shit. Some good stuff coming out. All right, cool. So we got that. And, oh shit, it's time for news, Brian.

Get some news articles. Got a few kind of slow this week. Have you guys ever seen the movie Death Stalker, Sword and Sandal movie from Sorcery Movie from back in the day? Yes. Yeah, you're the goal, though. Yeah. 80s, right?

Yes. Late 80s? Steve Kastansky, who did The Boyd and Psychogorman. Psycho Gorman, yep. is directing a new reimagining of the... I guess it's a cult sort and sorcery series, Death Stalker. Oh, okay. Yeah, those films have like a huge cult following,

so we'll see how it does with this franchise. Yeah, let's see. Little non-for news, Universal is actively developing sequels to Nobody and Violent Night. which I didn't. I thought that was already a thing. I thought it was too, yeah. This was announced. Well, I don't know about a sequel to nobody,

but that was a great movie. Well, I really didn't think it was going to happen when he had his heart condition. Oh. Yeah, I could see that. But it isn't the John Wick universe, right, Brian? Allegedly. Okay.

They said they can. I think everything's in the John Wick universe now. They're trying to squeeze everything to that thing. Makes sense. Let's see. David Schwimmer will star in the second season of goosebumps. Wow. And Jennifer Aniston, right?

And the leprachon. What's going on with those friends' residuals? Are they getting less than less by the year or what? I guess so. God damn. Second season of goosebumps. Yeah. Which I enjoyed it watching it with my daughter.

She will not be watching the second season because she's not like in the anthology style where they're going to have a new cast for every season because she thought like the original cast had more story to tell okay I can see that not she's not a Schwimmer fan

huh? No we had a discussion with him we had a discussion about friends and what's the other one that everybody, not friends but the other Erkel

family family family You went to, that was where you went to. I don't know. I think you're talking about Syphrine is the teenage age. Yeah. Thank you, Pedro, Seinfeld. Okay. We were just having a conversation.

Has she seen any of those? Right. She's watched a little bit of friends, not a big fan of friends. What? Not a big fan of Seinfeld. I don't think it's funny at all. I don't know. With me, it's like a cultural thing.

I got to wear some shades. A little too white for me. Let's just put it that way. I just never got the memo on either. And I try, don't get me wrong, but it's like, okay. I just, I don't know. Seinfeld has just never been funny to me with his whole, you know, you know the thing about coffee. What is worth this coffee?

What's the deal? Well, we all talked about Immaculant and the Devil, the late night with the devil. They all had the biggest opening weekend. for their respective distribution labels. Very nice. Immaculate with neon and late night with the devil with IOC films. Good. I'm glad we're hearing that.

Now, you're saying like ever, right, for both of them? Not this weekend because they only had one movie out each, so they would. So you're saying like of all time. Yeah, biggest opening weekend for... That's impressive. I'm liking these newer production companies, man. IFC Midnight hasn't really put out any trash that I can. can remember. No, they've never let us

down, man. Or age 24. Yeah, I mean, it's like nothing but bangers. Yep. And they had some great trailers, too. Like, I was seeing the trailers and I was like, holy shit, they're all good movies. Yes, yes. One we're going to talk about tonight. Okay.

And finally... I'm right about that. You guys ready to go to the Pooniverse? The what? The winning the Poo. Oh, no. I was like, well, this Phil took a turn of the poem. Okay, okay.

Which wouldn't be the first time. Let's be real about it, but I was wondering if we're going to go to that rocks. Monsters Assembles set for 2025 release. This will be an Avenger-style movie featuring various key villains from Twisted Childhood from the Twisted Childhood Universe that started with Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey.

The film will see Poo team up with Bambi, Tinkerville, Pinocchio, Peter Pan, Tigger, Piglet, the Madhatter, and Sleeping Beauty. And as of recording this right now, the sequel to Blood and Honey has got 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Well, and you know it's only critics right now, which is crazy. But last time I checked, it was 100% with the critics and like 80% with the audience score. Audience.

So was that one out there already? The second one? Yeah. I think they're doing that like they did last year with the first one, or not last year, when it originally came out. Yeah, yeah. I try to get my ticket and it's excluded from A-list, so I'm not going to pay for that shit. Yeah, yeah. Now, here's the thing.

I'm going to show you guys how hood I could get. So back in the day, before the pandemic, like with AMC, I could only do this with AMC because I had the card. What I would do is I would pay. so all the ones that were excluded from A-Lis, they usually put them on at 7 o'clock local time. I don't know if you guys, they do that. Right, right. Well, you guys are out.

Three from hell was that way. Yes, so what I would do is I would pay for a movie that would get covered by my A-LIS card, and then I would just sneak into that movie, and I would watch it. But nowadays, here in L.A., they stop, they don't put the banners on the entrance anymore. You don't know where the-

I know. They trick you now, don't they? Like, what the fuck? So I can't, like, unless I go in there and just walk into every fucking screening room, which is not going to happen, by the way. It's not like the old face. I'm too fucking old for that.

But, so I can't do that anymore. So I'm like, fuck it, I'm not going to pay for this fucking... It'll be streaming within like a couple weeks anyway. Hopefully. Hopefully. You guys remember theater happening? Yes. Oh, yeah.

Big time. At the time. That's what I'm saying. I got a theater here. You can do it now. Like the oldest... The oldest person working on the floor is barely old enough to drive. Yeah.

Oh. and don't care. Three boys. That theater is the opposite. The youngest person that works there is like 60. So they don't give a shit. They're like, oh, go on in, Sonny.

See whatever you want to go see, young man. And all these years... All these years of me going to that theater about the only time I've ever seen an adult that was a manager, they just walked out of one door and walked through another door. It was barely on the floor for a minute.

They didn't want to fuck with the customers. Yeah Just pay me I'm going home Yeah but that's But that's cool like 90% of the time But when you have like a tempo movie Like an Avengers movie

And you want to get your concessions That's a fucking nightmare Because everybody's confused They don't know what the fuck's going on They're giving you the wrong order And it's just yeah That's when you pay for all this shit So anyways

I get it Bring a little flask in your pocket Well, that's the news. All right. Petro, you ready for the trailer park? It's goal. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the first new trailer tonight, Brian? A new slasher film called In A Violent Nature.

The stars pretty much nobody I've ever heard of. Okay. directed and written by Chris Nash. Have we heard of Chris Nash? He's done a lot of effects. I've heard the name before. I think he's worked, yeah, he's worked on, didn't you interview this director?

Not this guy, Chris Nash. Maybe. The guy that's a nice. That's another Nash. That'd be a fantastic interview. The guy that directed Life Changers. Philip, remind me. Did we?

Maybe. No, I don't remember that one. We definitely need to get some interviews going again, that's for sure. He did effects for that movie. He did special effects for The Void. Ah, all right. So he's an effects guy that's... Psycho-Gorman.

I think this is his first directorial movie. I don't mind it when the effects guys get in the director's chair. Yeah, they usually do a good job. They're fans. They're really, so they know. The only thing that concerns me about this film, there's two things that concern me. First, he's a huge fan of Terrence Malick.

Now, if anybody that said ever watched a Territz Malick movie, they're great movies, don't get me wrong. I love them, but you have to be in a mood for a Terence Malick film. You just don't throw it on. True, sure. And it's like watching a film with subtitles. You have to just have to be in a mood

and you have to sack yourself up for these kind of films. And then also the premise of this film, the fact that it takes place from the point of view of the killer, or so they say. And in the trailer, yeah, you see a lot of him just kind of walking around and, you know, beating up people. Although you do see POVs from other perspectives, so I don't know how they're going to pull that off. But I don't know, man, this is one of those films where I hear the Terrence Malick thing and I hear the perspective of the killer. Yeah, it should get weird, huh?

It gets very artsy-fartsy to the point of like, come on, what are you doing here? But it's also interesting. And the trailer is very... Yeah, it looks good. It looks good. It looks very exploitive, which I love. And so I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to be their opening day for it for sure.

I think this is a shutter release. No, it's going to... Gallic did, what, the tree of life? Yes. Oh, God. Okay. Well, that doesn't make me excited. Just getting you. Little pretentious, fellow?

These guys could get pretentious very, very fast, which is what can... Smell the fart filmmaking. He still getting a theater release. Yeah, because I saw the trailer for both the MacCid and Late Night with the Devil. Yes. And I think it's a neon release too, so. Looks, yeah, I think it's some of the Shudder films. That's right.

All right. That's weird. We're getting the whole boom, boom, boom, boom, boom in the movie theater. That was fucking. It definitely looks like Jason. No doubt, man. From the preview, it looks pretty cool, but I guess we'll see. Yeah, I kind of...

I kind of wanted to stick from the perspective of a killer, kind of like the Elijah Wood Maniac movie. That was a good one. That was a good one. I wonder if the whole movie's just going to be the camera following this guy around from the back. Good, babe. Here's the thing, though, again, like, so I'm going to. here on the on the on the wikipedia page for it is and and it says commentators have drawn comparisons between any violent nature and slow cinema and that's slow cinema like that's where it's like

nothing happens for like three four minutes and you just look at a at a forest and and and you're supposed to have some sort of like existential light from that I don't know about that the smell the fart movie making again slow cinema like skinnamarink or like house of a thousand corpses where Walton Goggins is about to get shot. That's the aesthetics.

That's an aesthetic. Actually, they're all aesthetic choices. But more like skinnamarark or whatever the fuck that won't. Yikes. Ouch. Yeah. But I'm looking forward to it

because the trailer did sell me on it. Yeah, me too. Me too. May 31st. All right. Still waste. And finally, yes, Lance, another Cronenberg. Caitlin Cronenberg's Humane.

How many of these motherfuckers are there? People are like the Wains Brothers. This is a big come out of. Yeah, no doubt. Oh, fuck. This stars Jay Burchelle, Emily Hampshire, Peter Gallagher. Yeah. Oh, I thought that was Ezra Miller for us.

I'm a direct video people here. which I've looked up Caitlin's filmography kind of looked like she wasn't just given a directorial a chance to direct she had to like

work a bunch of different jobs on different movies okay well according to Lance she's already better than her father so there is that according to Lance a lot of people are better than their father

hey is this about global warming or what? Is that what the movie's about? I think it's it looks like it's about population control. Ah, the hard way. Yeah.

Like it or not, huh? Yeah, you volunteer, you volunteer, you can't back out after you volunteer. Right. Hmm. Or, well, there's a scene where the guys basically, like, because it appears that one of the volunteers ran away and he was like, well, we came here for two.

so who's it going to be and we're not leaving with just one what do you think Pedro looks pretty good it looks pretty good I don't think it's going to get a theatrical though is it it's going to be just straight to digital I guess it probably would get a small

XYZ films they usually tend to go straight to digital but I'll check it out yeah I'm interested to see if she's as good as the father and the brother because I'm a fan of both of them. I don't, Lance, I don't think the son is better than the father ever. Okay.

Based off of what, two movies, three movies? Well, maybe, maybe Caitlin will surpass both of them then. Who knows? I wonder if she's big on the body horror. I guess we'll find out. Probably. Maybe we'll have her on next year for the female empowerment round two. There you go.

That'd be awesome. All right. Humane comes out, possibly in theaters, but probably digital April 26. Okay. Right around the corner. Yeah. And we're not going to talk about it, but for you action movie fans, the new Bad Boys movie trailer dropped today. Oh, boy. There's a new Bad Boys movie?

Yep. What is that one coming out? Still Will Smith and Martin? Yep. May? I want to say May or June. What is that one subtitled? Ride or Die? Oh, God.

It's not subtitled the slap. No, because you just expect him to slap people in this movie. True. Jay to Pinkett Smith is the bad guy. Oh, that would be an amazing idea. That would be awesome. That would be great. They do the turn of the chair.

Yes. It's got a little. Oh, yeah. So it looks like this. This time they're on the run. That's the difference. Okay. Yeah.

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That's cool. Comedian, that's a lawyer. Yeah. Nice. Take it. Regarding death writer. Uh-oh. Lars. Come on. Hey, Lars is back.

All right. I've heard it's unwatchable. Zimvater says I can't wait to see it. I guess we'll find out. Isn't he Glenn Danzig apologizes, this Simvader fellow? Yes. He's like, he runs a punk band though, so it's like one of his idols. Hey, listen, man, I have a tattoo of the misfits on my right arm.

I'm a big fan of Glenn Danzig. I remember when the original Wolverine auditions were happening, I wanted this to get the part. I think a lot of people wanted this to get the part, because he's essentially like the cartoon version of Wolverine, if you really compare both of them. And he's a tiny guy. Yeah.

But what I was going to say is that, you know, shit is shit. And the films that I've seen from this guy are not very good. put it that way. Have you seen Death Rider? No, I haven't, and I want to, but then again, I don't. Yeah, it'll change what you think about. Especially as a... Even if you think he's a bad filmmaker, it might even change that.

Yeah, so I'm going to avoid that film. It just nobody has anything good about it. Regarding Lepricon 3, Ariel Wellman says Miggold. regarding return to silent hill Matthew McFarlane says Hope to see more of pyramid head in this one And Glenn Glenn Denice

Deniz That was Glenn Danzig It says Full disclosure It's gonna fucking suck Uh uh Well I mean The

Well we'll talk about it When the trailer comes out I know the guy. I thought the first Silent Hill was decent and the guy that did that one's doing the new one. Okay.

So, but is this a reboot or is this a continuation of the previous two films? I think a soft reboot. Okay. That's the buzzword nowadays. Soft rebutes. Right, right. Reboot. Well, still kind of a sequel,

but yeah. That's what it sounds like. Okay. Um, Lilliana, Molina Alambi says, uh, when is it coming out? This year? Supposedly, but you know, the whole strike thing kind of shook up release dates. Oh, yeah. But I say it will come out this year. Uh, regarding Chucky, Tamara Moon says, I just started watching this. I really like it. Nice. Nice. Yeah, the next, the last four are going to drop sometime, when is it in October, right? Or something like that.

the the remaining for the remaining for the president April president

president Devon Sawa regarding the post on the Facebook page Tonya says you all really need to start telling us where these are playing or just stop putting movies up well

Brian can we do that well they well i i've seen a bunch of comments and i'm not bashing anybody okay feel like i am too bad there's been a lot of comments of why didn't you put the release date of this poster when the release date is clearly on the poster don't comment this is a this is an awesome poster but you didn't tell us where it came out well do a lot of i do a lot of posting for our social Yes, the awareness that you all should be thankful for, damn it. The awareness that we bring to you guys, not so much the fucking release dates. They're there on the poster already.

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and we go back to 1989 for Ghostbusters 2. Classic. We'll start with Ghostbusters 2 from 1989. At the stroke of midnight, on New Year's Eve of the last decade of the 20th century, America's largest city is about to pay for the nastiness of its inhabitants. When that day comes, when the slime starts to rise,

The Titanic just arrived. When ghosts start arriving by the boatload. We got to find the guys. There's only one thing to do. Look out! Look out! Sometimes weird things happen. Someone has to deal with it.

And who are you going to call? Suck in the cuts, guys, with the Ghostbusters. The superstars of the supernatural are back. The discovery of a massive river of ectoplasm and a resurgent of spectral... activity allows the staff of the Ghostbusters to revive the business. Director is Ivan Reitman, also known for Stripes and Cannibal Girls. Okay, that's a classic.

And writers are Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis. While the role of Vigo was played by Wilhelm von Homburg, all his lines were dubbed by Max von Sadao. Uh-oh. Wilhelm left the premiere in anger when he found out. That's fucked up because they didn't tell him that. How is it that you don't even know? Like, how do you show up to the premiere?

Like, oh, what the fuck? I hope he sounds like Arnold, and he left, and he was just like, Blah! Is that the problem? He was too German, or what? I try to remember. He was one of the henchmen in the first diehard movie. He does, trying to remember.

He does talk in that one. Okay. But it's, I don't. I can't remember for sure, but I don't remember it not being, I'm not being able to understand him. Especially when it's by Max von Seidau was one of the legendary actors of our time. You know, and it's, you know,

you know what's going to get out of this motherfucker dubbed you, you know? Why don't they just get him to play Vico instead? Yeah, he would have been great. He would have been great. And the thing to me is, like, when did they find out it was going to be a move? Because how awkward would have been on said when, like, Ivan Reitman's trying to give direction?

This vehicle and this Wilhelm von Humberg fellow, he's like, I'd like to do like this line this way. Would you allow me to do it? Everybody's like, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's like, go to duff you anyway. Knock yourself out.

Or I'm not, I'm just speculating. Maybe he was so bad. But, oh, no. You could have a point there, right? They just got backs outside out who overdove that Madam Webb did it. And we're going to have that. But I think back by the side, I was dead. He still would have been better.

Oh, no. All right. Pedro, what did you think about Ghostbusters, too? Well, I try to watch it really quickly because I got the way to be on late. Fast forward? No, no, I didn't fast forward. I had it on when you guys thought. I just got about halfway through it.

But I don't know. It was silly to me. It wasn't as good or as legendary as the first one, and really nothing happened since the first one. This one was more comedy, but it was that annoying kind of like 80s comedy that I don't like, you know. Sure. But I saw, like, Bill Murray's all over the place,

kind of like, you know, he kind of wants to hook up with, what's her name, Sigourney Weaver's character, but doesn't. And then the whole baby thing. So I wasn't really getting into it, is what I'm trying to say. I didn't get to the platform. poor man you're named after a hot dog I think that's the part where the parts where they pull

from this movie with the Statue of Liberty walking and all that shit I didn't get to the car and they used to Nintendo fucking joystick or whatever the controller I used to have that but I don't know I just didn't feel like it was it was grabbing me so I think I got distracted and I started being on my phone after a while so

that was my review of this movie you remember the power glove yes I pretty used it in ready's dead to kill oh yeah the power glove my high score that's when he kills the kid nice graphics

that movie that movie from two years ago on HBO 64 bit Christmas or whatever with the power of love you remember that? Oh yeah with the doogie yeah is that one of those

those rom-coms that you watch from time to timeline? No, no, it was like a... The Swiss that you like? I think it was kind of reminiscent of like a Christmas story or something like that. Yeah, instead of a kid remembering. Instead of a BB gun, it was a Nintendo.

Yes. All right, Brian, what'd you think? I have a soft spot for this movie. I don't think it's nowhere near as good as the original one. But this wasn't the first Ghostbust movie I've seen when I was a kid. Of course, it was the original one. But this was

the first one I saw in the theaters. Ah, okay. And I still remember that time going to the theaters and like we talked about it. It was one of those times. Oh, we were theater happened. So. Yes. Got to see that.

Brian, were those big, like, multiplexes already a thing where you were growing up in? Because with me, it was still those palaces in 1989. They had to build those multi-plexes at the malls yet so all my memories of that this time is going to like those big like palace theaters with one screen um i you know so i don't know if those were a thing yet those big multi-plex with like 10 screens and stuff yeah we we had the multi-theater

uh the the biggest one we have now we didn't get that like the imax and Lance's favorite the d box yeah the big d big d we didn't get that until like not when they started coming out but a few years later but we we have all that we used to have a drive-in from what i was told but i was too young to even remember that's awesome they had to bring back more of those but uh ghostwusters too um bill murray on this rewatch kind of bothered me really yeah it was just a little too much and the whole oscar being somebody else's kid which they never talk about ever. Why didn't you just make it...

Why didn't you just make it his kid and he just wasn't responsible enough to stick around. Yeah. I wonder if it was supposed to be his kid and then Bill was like, no man, I'm not doing that. You're not making me look like that.

I'm the star of this show. Well, he kind of played it like he was. Yeah. And I kind of wanted a little bit more of the other Ghostbusters. Definitely wanted more of Vigo instead of him just being a floating head

in the picture. I wanted him to be some kind of final showdown, which we didn't really get. The one guy was kind of funny. The guy that was a little foreign guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

When he got slown, he said, I'm dripping's with goo. You know, you don't want to You want me to come inside? Like, yeah, so again, the movie was just way more silly than the first one, because the first one was a lot, was more adult, I felt like, and there was a lot of themes that were more adult-oriented. The first slow job scene? So, it's been like with this one, though,

it was very much like tailored towards, like, kids, because there's that scene where Ray is down here getting the sample right of the slime or the goo. Yes, yeah. And on top, You have Bill Murray and I think Egon, and they're doing their whole Albert and Costello routine with the cops. They actually get to wire right back up. First of all, the CGI, and this is not their fault. It's horrendous.

Bad CGI. Yeah, 1989. Let's be real about it. And so everything's going good. Yeah, they're having drama up there with the cops, but they actually got to pick them, raise them up. But as Ray's going up, he's like, hell. me help me and i'm like dude this was gonna go exactly you were gonna get you're being raised back up up he's freaking out and that's when he kicks off the pipe that kills the electricity and i'm like

it's supposed to end because everything's going according to plan other than the drama that you don't know about that's going on upstairs they're still lifting you up but he's freaking out halfway it could be because the slime started like grabbing his feet maybe that maybe there is oh yeah the pink slime grabbing his feet i don't see some activity here that didn't make me laugh because he's very nice There's some activity here, guys. Please give me up. And you fucking grab his foot and shit. That was pretty funny.

Well, and maybe New York needs some better infrastructure if one rusty pipe can kill the whole city. Yeah. And there's just other things that could have been done better. Like the whole, like they introduced, like, Ray was possibly going to be possessed by Vigo, like, early on in the movie. But that didn't really happen until the last 10, 15 minutes, if that. And then he's only possessed for like a minute because all they had to do is slime him. You've been slimed. Bego's main weakness is the slime that he controls.

Explain that, right? That's a good point. And I think you said it, Pedro, like it was a little too comedic. Like the foreign curator guy, when he comes to snatch up Oscar, he's a flying baby. sitter with a baby carriage, a stroller. Yeah. It's going to be like some old ghost lady or something.

Which he looks like he's a ghost. Why are you a ghost when you're a possessed person? Also, I hadn't thought about that. Well, you know what, to be fair, just much like any Bill Murray production, this was a complete mess because, you know, he's got to have it his way,

and then there was a lot of rewrites. So you probably, we do see kind of like how they switch directions in mid parts there from time to time so i'm sure the production wasn't nice and that's why we didn't have one till 2016 we didn't have another ghostbusters film because these guys couldn't get it together and and just give us one that you know so um so you could see why how this production was a mess just by looking at the movie he didn't want to do that 2016 one but he sure took that check for that cameo yeah that's another one that's you know are we

As the years go on, depending on the day, it's canon, it's not canon. I know. What about the cartoon, right? The real Ghostbusters or whatever? Is that canon? Well, that's them. I mean, I think it is. That's actually...

I guess it is, right? Then you've got the game that everybody was always saying was the true third movie. Ah, that's right. The Nintendo game? No, the... If you can get it for, like, Xbox and PlayStation. Oh, okay. No, I never said. I would never play. That original Ghostbusters Nintendo game

was hard as fuck. They all were. They were never supposed to beat any of them. The old ET game, where you were trying to get the Reese's pieces and you kept falling in the hole. Oh, yeah. Shunger age, Lance.

That's what Zool was like. You had to climb up all these goddamn stairs, and you could never fucking get to the top. But I don't want to keep, I don't want to keep. bashing it because I like I said it's a it's a soft spot in my heart because it was it was the first one I got to see on the big screen so all right hey I got a real subject value for you and that's okay no problem yeah nostalgia is a hell of a drug I've heard oh it sure is Lance what

you think about it uh I don't know man these these movies are kind of fun for me I I I one thing I like about the Ghostbusters movies and it's kind of like the Marvel comic books in the universe. Like I was kind of telling you guys earlier, it's like, they make New York New York is kind of its own character. You know, like everybody's very New York. You get these super

New York accents and different parts of the city and stuff like that. I got to tell you, I told you the lines over there. I love it, man. I'm a sucker for that. So. I love the cameos in this one too. Did Trump show up? I can't remember. Did Trump show up? No, but

the most important cameo did, Bobby Brown. Trying to get one of those proton packs for his little system. Oh, man. Oh, man. I knew I knew that guy. He killed Whitney Houston. Yeah, damn it.

But anyway. Yeah, no. Allegedly. All right. It was, it was a fun movie. It was stupid. CGI was horrible. The pink slime was really, really bad.

But I got a question. How come at the beginning of the movie? why was that baby stroller like driving on its own? Was the baby already possessed? Yeah, yeah. It rolled over the slime. Okay. Yeah, I walked over the, or rolled over the slime.

Ah, okay. My question was why nobody could catch up to it. That was when it made it ridiculous. Like, it wasn't going necessarily fast, but nobody could ever just catch up to it. Yeah. So you have... Calling in question, Sigourney's, not Sigourney, Dana's mother skills. Yeah, right, right.

She should have been able to catch that strolling. Oh, yeah, no doubt. So you had, so here's the, so here's the order that it goes in, Pedro. You had the battleship Potemkin scene with the, the stroller going down the stairwell. And then you had, what was the one with Kevin Costa in it, where they were going after Al Capone? Oh, the untouchables. The untouchables. You had that baby stroller scene, and now you've got this one for the trifecta.

Yeah, no, it's, I didn't hate the movie. I didn't hate it. Yes, I enjoyed the first Ghostbusters more. this was kind of cheesy with the stuff, you know, oozing under the sewer and all that. But I just love the fact that it was so fucking New York, you know, hey. That was a fun movie. Yeah, I mean, to me, it was silly, right? And silly doesn't necessarily mean bad.

It just means silly. And it could be fun. You know, another thing is, like, you had, like, the Peter Vangman character with the Dana character. Like, they're not in high school. And their entire chemistry in the first half of the movie is like, oh, well, he didn't call. He just left. And I'm like, yo, you both of those are. 40s. Like, establish some

fucking communication here, you know? Like, I don't know. Maybe I'm too old for these fucking movies. I don't, but it was just so fucking annoying because it's like, you're acting like kids here. Like literally kids, you know? But anyways, it was a silly movie and, yeah, if it's silly, it could be fun. So I don't disagree.

This is not a hill I'm going to die on for this film. So. Did you guys see the other small cameos? A young Jason Reitman? Oh, no. Played the kid at the party. I basically told the Ghostbusters they weren't shit anymore. Oh, that was hilarious.

And then, yeah, and then Ivan Reitman's other kid, Christine Reitman, was the little girl with the puppy in the little testing area with Egon. But he was like, let's take the puppy away. Let's see what happens after that. Yeah, right, right. Maybe Caitlin Kornberg was also one of the little kids. He probably wasn't more. I was like my house.

89? I don't know about that. It's not that long ago. Maybe David Cronenberg showed up somewhere in the background. Yeah, I got it. Okay, so when this movie came out, it was 1989. I was like 7, 8 years old. And it was fucking perfect for my age group. It was definitely geared more towards kids, but look at how many toy sales they got off the original. And cereal and everything else. Those proton packs still sell like hotcakes for people age.

So this one sprung the whole cartoon and everything, you know. I think that they knew what they had here. And especially in that age where toy sales were kind of ever. I mean, like He-Man, you know, like they would create shows. They throw He-Man's name in here. Yeah. Oh, they do. Those little spoiled graphs.

one at He Man instead of the Ghostbusters. Oh, yeah. You guys got actual ghost catchers that save the city and we chant for He-Man. And still nobody fucking believes in ghosts. I don't understand it. Especially the man.

We ran a whole fucking business where we were catching ghosts. You guys don't remember that? A couple years ago. That's another thing. Like, their run as Ghostbusters was relatively short, right? It was like less than five years. Yes. So I don't know how business went so dry that quick, because if there's, if we've already established that there's goals, that's like a lifelong, that's job security right there.

Cleaned up the whole city. Yeah, then you go to another city. What about Jersey? Jersey has all kinds of goals. That's, that's for sure. In more ways than one. But this, this one definitely has some nostalgia bait for me too. and I kind of love it. Not as much as the first one, especially going, but I've seen this one more times

because I feel like this was the one that they always played on TV. And it's silly. I feel like they ran the first one. They had all the character development or anything and everything, and then they knew what they had,

and so they leaned into it hard on this one. And this was like Bill Murray at his Bill Murrayest. Bill fucking Murray as they said. Oh, Bill. And the video game I'm talking about was in 2009 and it's called Ghostbusters,

The Video Game. And it's set two years after this movie. Really? Wow. Yeah. Damn, I got to play that. How do I know?

I remember the trailer. All the nerds got all excited for the trailer, I remember, of that video game. To the point where I thought it was another movie and I got excited. And so I was like, I just another video game.

but uh yeah this is so this is i think my second favorite ghost busters movie after the original of course wow okay and then afterlife probably comes in behind that it's not like there's a lot of them you know but still well there's five i mean that's five now uh all right uh scores Pedro, do you like AfterLife better than this one? Yes. I love After Live, actually, which was why the one on top of the next was so disappointing. Spoiler alert. But I give it 7 on 10.

I understand it was over and I understand that it was, it's fun. It's easily digestible, right? So it's like, yeah, that's cool. I think you could put it on in the background and it'll suck you in from time to time. It's straightforward and it is a little bit silly. Whereas the first one, which is like a tad more cerebral, it's not like a Terrans Malick movie or nothing like that. But it's something to where you have to be more invested, which at times is hard to do when it's like a background movie. So I could see why people would choose this one over that one.

So yeah, so I give it a 7 on 10. Brian? Yeah, I agree. Seven on 10. It's very nostalgic for me, but it's nowhere near as good as the second one. I felt like they leaned a little too heavy on the comedy. And there was just a couple of storylines when I rewatch it now. They just,

they could have handled them differently. Like I brought it before the whole Oscar having a different father, which they just, they just mention it and never go into it, never even. I don't even know why they even said they're her, him and Dana are not even together anymore. I did think about that a couple of times. I was like, well,

who the fuck is this baby's dad? That's what I was thinking. Now, now, I will say this. This is the reason, one of the big reasons why it gets a seven with me. And that's because they had Kurt Fuller in it.

Now, Kurt Fuller was everywhere in the 80s. He was that sleazy's in every fucking movie. Oh, that guy. He was like a henchman. Yes, seven out of ten movies from 85 to like 90. He was in it, you know?

So he was also a leader here in Noholds barred, which popped. Yeah, the evil TV exec. It was the Ted Turner and No-Hose Bar. They just put it that way. Does he not play that part perfect? Jackass. He was born to be that guy in all the movies, for sure.

That gets props for me for him being in it. Real quick question, Pedro, about No-Hose Bar and speaking about him. At the end, when he's just all sweaty and crazy-looking, I think that's just natural acting ability or... Did he take something? A little cocaine, maybe? It was the 80s. It was Vince was there.

We don't know what Vince is now, you know. And so you just never know. Hulk was there. So I think he took a little... Well, not only 80s, but professional wrestling stuff in the 80s. You know they had some good drugs. Now, here's my question about NoHo's bar that can nobody... It breaks the universe when you think about it.

So later on, I don't know if Lance and Philip know about this, but later on, Zeus came over to the real world of wrestling to challenge Hawk Hogan, and they had a program. They had a long program. Now, was that Tiny Lister challenging Tbilia? Was that Zeus that transferred over, and it was transferred? Was he looking for Rip, or was he looking for Hawk Hogan? Because it's two different people.

This kind of fucking question has always moved my mind, because it doesn't make any sense. It's a multiverse. That's a multiverse thing. It is a gimmick, man. He stepped through one of those Dr. Strange portals looking for rip and landed in WWE and saw Hulk Hogan. It was just like good enough. Let me tell you something, brother.

Yes, it's very wacky when you think about it. All right, Lance, what do you think? Six and a half. Six to a half. Two-thirds good. All right. Well, I'm going to be the high man on the totem pole on this one. I'm going to go eight

I love this movie I can't remember what I gave the original one but I'm going to go at least nine on that one This one is a little bit higher Probably I probably gave it a nine and a half or a ten Which it deserves I think But yeah this one this one I think I'm going to give it an eight I like it a lot not as much as original but

Man it's close I have I have I I've seen this way more times, and I still don't hate watching it. Not bad. Not bad. All right. On to the new one. Hey, you're ready, Petra? What's that?

You ready, Petra? Yeah, I mean, it is what it is, you know? We're going to talk about it. I was excited to hear what you guys were thinking about this one. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. First time in New York history, people froze to death. the middle of July. What is it?

The death, Jill. The power to kill by fear itself. Your veins turn to rivers of ice. Your bones crack. And the last thing you see. Let's see. When the discovery of an ancient artifact

unleashes an evil force, Ghostbusters new and old must join forces. Plus some... New and the whole. You don't really know who they are. To protect their home... and save the world from a second ice age. Is that what's happening? Sure.

We think. There's so many fucking characters in this movie. Half of them don't even have a purpose. And it's just, it's all over the place. People look unhappy to be there through the screen. But wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me get it through the director and writer and trivia first. And then we'll go back.

Sorry. All right, director is Gil-Kennan, also known for Monster House and the Poltergeist remake. Oh, wait. This wasn't the guy that did Afterlife. No, it wasn't. No, Jason Reitman stepped aside to be a producer. He James Wonded. Ah, there you go.

Writers are Gil-Kennon or Keenan, I don't know, Ivan Reitman and Jason Reitman. The working title for this film was Firehouse after the Ghostbusters. Firehouse. In previous films, the exterior shots of the Firehouse were filmed at the Hook and Ladder 8 in the Tribeca neighborhood of Lower Manhattan, New York City. Hey, I know that from the song. After filming was finished on Ghostbusters 2, the firehouse kept half of the sequel sign that hung outside. It was regularly displayed on holidays, particularly

Halloween. Eventually, it was permanently moved inside after a successful GoFundMe campaign by fans of the movie in June 2021, which funded a full-scale replica of the Ghostbusters sign. This sign now hangs outside the Firehouse year-round. That's cool. The GoFundMe campaign is now an annual fundraiser for the Firehouse, and a celebration is held there on Ghostbusters Day each year. I didn't know there was a Ghostbusters Day.

But apparently there is. There's a whole community of Ghostbusters. Like, grown men, our age, walking around hunting ghosts. And that's a thing, which whatever, you know, to each his own. All right, Pedro, continue. So, yeah, so no, yeah. So we're not in the spoiler section yet. So I'll just say that, again, I didn't really like this film.

Again, it was the first one of my little mini marathon that night. So thankfully, the other two made up for it. But it was just very generic. and I hate generic movies. I'd rather have a bad, boring movie than a generic movie. And there is a difference. And this one was just generic. Everybody was going through the motions.

One of the things that I hate the most, one of my pet peeves when it comes to all these strokes is the, like, the privileged kid, you know, the entitled kid that knows everything, right? I hate that. If you're going to give me that, give me something with substance. Okay. And right here, they didn't do that. They did not give me a privileged.

entitled kid with substance they gave me an annoying entitled kid that knew it all and she's actually the ones that gets them into the shit to begin with because of her know-it-all ways and her ungrateful ways um you sound like a parent i mean jesus christ i was i was like god damn um but yeah and then like again the characters have no motivation one of the characters just vanishes like for a long span of time the film. Literally, huh? I mean, I don't know about literally, but, you know. Yeah, I know what you mean. Like, I thought maybe that was it for that character, you know? Well, the thing is that this character, the entire marketing was surrounded around this character, especially with the afterlife.

The return. Yeah. Yes, and then here's whatever. Again, Bill Murray didn't want to be there. You could tell more than he ever, you know, he usually doesn't want to be anywhere, but particularly in this film. and wants to be on a golf course somewhere right yeah he just doesn't want to he probably feels like an idiot throwing on that fucking suit all the time but that those paychecks kind of make up for it i guess oh you know they wrote him a fucking blank check for this five minutes um and so the the villain in

this movie makes no sense um it's one of those like generic macawleywood villains that look like any other ghost or villain or whatever. And so I just, I got disconnected from this movie like halfway. So many characters, right? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, they were coming out of the woodwork.

They didn't have enough time to fucking develop anybody. I mean, like, they sort of had already been developed, I guess, but then they didn't, like, they just threw in a bunch of extras. Yeah, they didn't follow through on them. Show us their development. Yeah.

Like that kid podcast, who doesn't even have a name, I think his name's just podcast, which is wacky. Yeah. Where is his parents? I forgot who he was until halfway through the movie. But the kid was so charming and he stole our hearts in afterlife. They gave him a lot of cool lines and he got some great delivery.

I don't know, maybe not because he's older. I don't know why, but it just didn't work in this film. He got to do nothing, you know? Oh, man. He got to carry the hammer around. And then Finn Wolfhardt, he fucking, he just came to say hello. Oh, and then he just does nothing. He can't say, hi, give me my check.

Bye. I was going to say he's only in a couple of scenes, too. Going back to Stranger Things. See you later. Yeah, he's getting a little older, too, so they better get on the strangers thing, because I don't know how they're going to work the way around all this shit. Right.

So, yeah, so I don't know. I just didn't, I didn't really dig this film at all. And I'm not in the spoiler section, I'll get more into it, but, yeah, it just wasn't for me. All right, Brian, what do you think? I have to agree with Pedro. I know. Based off, I didn't really watch, I watched the first trailer, and I didn't watch anything after that.

I was just going off of the strength of how much I loved the previous one. Yeah. And this one just didn't have no heart to it, no emotion. Just everybody was just there. You're right. They just kept introducing new character after new character after new character, after new character, not even taking time to even

explain their association and what they do. There's one of the characters from the previous movie, they bring her back and she has nothing to do. Finn Wolfhardt has nothing to do. But Kenna Grace

as Phoebe Spangler is a completely different character to me personally than she wasn't a previous movie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. sure. She's fucking annoying as fuck. Although, she's also

growing up. She's a teenager. Teenager. You could have gave that same storyline. I'm not trying to spoil it now, but you could have gave that same storyline to Finn Wolfheart's character. Yeah. Well, I'm kind of glad they didn't. I mean, but we'll get into that.

And just here... Go ahead. I was going to say, the film rested on Fobe's character with the ghost. Once that, the entire film rested on that relationship getting over, as they say in wrestling. Once that didn't happen, the film was done because so much rested on that plot device. And to me, it was just stupidity. We'll get to it in the spoiler section, but it was just stupidity how that whole thing played off.

Because it was so fucking obvious. You know, maybe it was bad writing. It's like, anybody could see what was going to happen. And yet this film brought, you know, phobia, whatever the fuck. she falls for it hook line and sinker and then get everybody into the fucking jammed you know and then like like paul rudd's character like oh yeah he was his entire fucking plot thread is he needs to be he needs to fucking man up that as as a as a parent as a stepdad that's literally his old character and he finally does it go ahead are they married

or are they engaged? I was so confused. I was confused too. They don't explain anything. Because at times it felt like they were together going to be married and at times they felt like they were buried. I was so confused. He was just so emasculated in this film.

Like, what the fuck? Yeah, he kind of was. Like once he fucking quote-unquote man's up, he starts taking deep breaths at. He's like, and then, Carrie Coon's character is like, it's not easy, is it? No, it's not. Get the fuck out of here.

You know? And what did you guys think about? Camille Nanjari or whatever's name is that popped up in there. As his character from the Terms? Firemaster. Yeah, that's exactly what to us. He fucks with a candle for like two minutes and all of a sudden he discovers all his powers. Come on, dude.

He's more of a goofball than anybody else in the whole movie. it doesn't even make any sense. But it is a comedy. I mean, come on, Philip. I guess. It was like cartoonish. I feel like I'm dangerously on the edge of

spoiling it. So are you right there? I'm throwing it to Lance. All right, Lance, what do you think? I didn't. I didn't hate it. I did. Of course you didn't. Jesus. This is right there with night swim. No, it's not right.

Night swim. You're going to give it this movie a nine on ten. I could see it already. All right. Night swim. least felt like it was less than two hours long. This movie felt like one of those fucking mini series on TV that you watched a seven night long event.

I was like, back in 1991 again. Oh shit. I was like, when the fuck is this movie going to end? It just felt like it went on and on and on. And like you guys said, well,

they kept introducing new characters. And yeah, there was some comedy there, a particular Mr. Oswald and stuff like that. But did they really introduce, anybody knew that brought much to the story? Not really, you know. So I guess I'm talking about self out

of saying I didn't hate it. Maybe I did kind of hate it. They didn't need to introduce anybody because we were still developing the characters that we got to know in the first one. Okay. All right. They could have taken 75% of the characters out of this movie and it would have been the same movie. All right. Here's what I did like about the movie. Phoebe was

my favorite character in the first movie. Yeah. And they did. They were smart enough to shine the spotlight on her. Yeah. And that's all I'm going to say. Dumbass moves on. I don't know. Yeah, you guys are right.

This one was kind of rough. Kind of paint by numbers. But, you know, at least you got a lot of good New York stuff there. And, you know, you get the firehouse and you got the shitty mayor that doesn't know how to do shit. I like that cameo. Yeah. I know. I like that too, man.

I like that too, but it's just kind of the same exact script as every other Ghostbusters movie, right? It sounded like whatever they were trying to do with the whole previous title of Ghostbusters Firehouse, I would have liked something that would have been just that location, the Firehouse, with it. Well, or delve more. Well, I guess we'll get more into that. Spoilers. I'm kind of wondering why Frozen Empire? Why? I mean, what was the significance of, the ice age and the cold and I don't know I don't know not the best

Ghost Festers movie that's for sure definitely the worst of all of them so far well except the 26th one I don't like that one at all yeah yeah oh you're talking about the one with Melissa McCarthy yeah you don't like how she falls down all the time no I don't

a lot of pratt falls I did like what's her name in it I thought she was funny yeah Cape McKinion is that her name Yeah. Kate McKinnon, this was kind of a forgettable movie, guys. That's, I think that hit it right there.

It's a little bit forgetable. Yeah, I sort of had the same feeling. It was just, it was a lot of, a lot of characters that didn't need to be there. And you're right, that whole Ice Age thing, like, why, right? It was like a reason to bring Camille Nanjari in or whatever, but like, they're saying?

I don't know, maybe It seems It seems like they were stretching it It was like they were using excuses To get more people in the movie And it's like no, no, no We need less people in the movie It's like they cast people

Before they had anything written for them Right Good point I bet that's exactly what they did Because I mean they could have gone A totally different direction with it And I think it totally would have worked But uh

Uh, yeah It sounds like we're shitting all over it. I'm going to say it wasn't a bad movie. It just wasn't good. It was kind of me. You know? I think with me, what really affects this is that afterlife really, I had high expectations because I knew that they could make a good Ghostbusters film using this cast and making it more adult and whatnot.

And just looking at themes from that perspective. And then when it was like, no, yeah, you're right. I mean, this film is not, it's not trash. I wouldn't say that. I mean, kids would love it just because it's very, it's mindless entertainment. But I was expecting more out of it. I think that affected the way I see it. Mindless.

It is. I mean, you know, there's just a lot of shit going on on the screen. Kids love that shit, you know? They don't get a fuck about plot or characters. Too many cooks in the kitchen, I think. Too many cooks. Brian. Oh, man.

That too many cooks, I watched it like two or three times in a row that night, Brian, when you told us about it. It's good, ain't it? It's hilarious, man. All right, scores. Pedro? I'm going to go five on ten. Okay. Not bad.

Yeah, no, it's not, yeah, five on ten. It just wasn't as good as to be. Yeah. Brian? Yeah. I think I'm there five on ten. This is it's like what do we review?

Imaginary. This is good for the little kids. Oh, right. That was a three on ten for me, but I was in. Our night swim Pedro? Oh, fuck that movie. And just really thinking about it. I think one of the big problems of this movie is there wasn't a right man

running things. Yeah. Okay. That wasn't a right man evidently because parrud wasn't Oh, and did you guys notice? I don't know if you guys remember anything from the trailer. There's stuff in the trailer that wasn't in the movie. No. Like, in the trailer, they have these cool red Ghostbusters, like, Parca's snow jackets.

Oh, shit. They never wore those in the movie. I, maybe in the next one. There's probably a ton of shit on the cutting room floor of this one. You think? Cut the wrong shit. That's what I'm saying. We didn't get any character development on anybody.

I didn't even know who half people on the fucking screen was. We're like, what is this guy? I'm also going five on ten. Five on ten. It's not horrible. It's not trash. The villain, the big bad, was kind of scary, which was kind of cool. It was kind of creepy and scary looking.

It was very stiff, though. One of those. Supersticking. What's up with the horns? Why did the horns give him so much more power? Because his boss cut them off. They explained that. Oh, man.

If it didn't have my horns. He was emasculated just like Paul Red, huh? If it didn't have the horns, then Bill Murray couldn't have said that joke about here. There's a lot of symbolism in this movie. Let's just put it out.

The times that we've been. It's like tenacious D. It's five on ten. Jack Black wasn't in the movie. He might have been in the background. He might have made it a little better. He pops up with KG and they fucking take his horn. And he's like, oh, my fucking horn.

The horn of destiny. There's another pet peeve that really got on the bat. You know what these films starts sucking? Like shit that wouldn't know when he sucks, start sucking as well? Like, so one of the kids, the techie guy, he's, he's one of a Goldbuster outfit, but is he a ghost? Like, they never tell you who the fuck the ghosts are. That guy in particular.

I don't know his name. I had no idea. We'll get to the whole separate other team. Yeah. What's what's going on here? Like, who are the ghost brothers here? Because there's a shitload of them. Who are the fucking guy from?

Is it like when you get a job at a lab and they just give you like a shirt or like a buttoned up whole shirt? I don't explain this to me. Like, what the fuck? fuck what the fuck are you doing on the control board aren't you the janitor like like the actual like bait suit is out like i don't know what's going on here uh but yeah i'm gonna go five on 10 too for the same reason how wow okay well and it i think that's the score that it deserves that like it wasn't it wasn't bad but it definitely wasn't good i think they just try

to throw too much shit in there you know and yep yeah Turned into a 12-hour movie. Like, if you're going to cut it to less than two hours, which I think it was right at about two hours, which is great, I think that more movies should do that. But you're going to have to fix the fucking story. You can't just cut things out. I thought I got watching the hit miniseries again on ABC in 1992. That's right. That's right.

All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking. Spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. Okay, we can freely talk about the second staff of the Ghostbusters that Winston has funded. Of random fucking people. There's like a paranormal botanist. And I'm like, are we going to have like killer ghostmas? plants, just introduce all these... This person does this, this person does that, and then they just, you don't see them again. So when they started the movie out with the ice scene and then the, like the Indian warrior mask holding the brass ball, and the story behind that, I thought that was actually really cool.

Okay. Until you see who wears it. Well, yeah. And then they And then they go off On so many other little plot tangents True Yeah that little sphere or whatever

It went through a lot of different Like story plots Like is the fucking guy gonna come out of there Or not? Yeah Like first he's just freezing people's hands And then he's fucking with the glass And then there's that other

That just fucking shoots Like it's like a beam That just What do they call him? The one that imitates all the fucking Objects? slimer? No, not slimer. Oh, that's what I'm going to get to slimer right now,

because he also doesn't make sense in this fucking movie. The possessor. What was that? The possessor. The possessor. There you go. It was like that fucking Grimland electricity, the one from Grimlin Part 2. Yeah, that was kind of gimmicky. Really dumb.

Slimer only made sense because it gave Finn Wolfhardt something to do because you already announced he was in the cast, so you had to have him do something. Well, right. But his Wolfhard and Slimer been cut out of this entire movie, it would have made zero difference. You could have easily have had

him on the same kind of journey as McKenna Grace's character of being young and trying to fit in somewhere on the team because, you know, they're constantly, he can't drive the car. They don't trust him, even though he's of age too. They didn't play off of any of that. Well, because they just

disappears because of the characters that don't fucking matter. He disappears along with Bill Murray. Oh, fuck. I don't even understand. The way they introduced Bill Murray That was terrible. Terrible. Just so they can bring back the whole shock treatment test. I guess.

That was terrible. Yeah, with Nadim or Assad's or whatever that's camera. Ghostbusters, too, and what about Bob are my favorite Bill Murray movies. Yeah. And they even bring back Finn Wolfheart's love interest. I think her name was lucky. She's a fucking

Ghostbuster train in training. But you know who's not a ghostbuster in training or any kind of training in this movie is Rick Moranis. They cannot get this Molfo out of tire me, no matter how much they've tried. They've tried. I don't hate that. I think that's why they put what's their name in the suit. Annie Potts? Oh, yeah.

She looks good. Yeah, but I thought like that was supposed to be Lewis. And they were like, we can't get Rick. So, Janine gets. suited. Right. Yeah. Step up. And don't expect to do anything. We just need you in the suit. What she does introduce this wacky new gadget

that looks like that, the shield they give to Captain American in Infinity War, where she puts it on her wrist. It fucking comes out. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, yeah, there was a lot of stuff that was just kind of pushed in there just to say, oh, look who's here now. It looks is here now.

But going back to Slimer, like nobody knew who the fuck this fucking ghost was. And that bothered me. Again, once you're already pissed, you're going to notice all this little shit. Like, this fucking guy has been with the Ghostbusters since 1984. And I think even, like, Finn Woodhart's character, I think he met him in afterlife, I think. But here he's approaching him, like, he doesn't know him. Like, he never, like, nobody ever calls him slimer, I don't think.

I don't know, that little shit is like a pet peeve, but it's still fucking bothered. Do these motherfuckers know this ghost or not? You know, because I know for a fact that they've communicated with Slymer on numerous occasions in previous films. And yet here they're reacting like they've seen them for the first time. Well, they had to get all that product placement in there. You know, they got an headache for the movie. You know what cameos did work for me? There was small.

The Finn Wolfhard one? No. Because that was... The Bill Murray one? They brought back. the inspector guy Walter Peck, who is now the mayor. The mayor. And then they went back to the original library. And that

is the same actor. That was the head librarian. Yes, I thought that was. I thought it was. Yeah. See, fun stuff like that is a good nod to the fans. Yeah. See, Ackroyd was kind of fun in this movie, right? He was kind of still nerdy and dwebish. But you know what? He's kind of, he's kind of, have been the representative of the Ghostbusters for years. Like, Dan

Akros has ran away from this franchise. He's kind of like the blacker. Embraced it. Sure. Yes. And so I think that's why he's more invested. And you could tell he's more invested in the character, you know, whereas Bill Murray couldn't give a fuck. And so... I like Ernie Hudson.

Ernie Hans is good. He's good. His character doesn't make sense. He took a big drastic jump from the last time we saw him. But hey, it's been years. So, like, I get it. all of a sudden he has all this money and he's funding all this shit and also i know you like i know i'm not stupid but they they explain to you how all this shit works and i guarantee you if you were to watch it back it still doesn't make any fucking sense you know it's still like well come on jumble well of course it's goes best but these sense of you movies i mean i know like like

the flux capacitor i know how the start tech works like they've explained it to me it doesn't exist in real life but I know how it works you know um yeah because I mean they had what do you call where the ghosts live at does that even have a name what is that called the ghost dimension no that's not the thing in the firehouse where they store all the ghosts yeah where they put the little gimmick in and then they press a button and then the where the fuck they live at forever the ghost trash can I don't okay is that what Loki when when he got fucking zapped with the stick or how does that work probably probably Here's my idea.

I think that they should have run with that. The thing is getting overloaded. The ghost start escaping. Yeah. Ghostbuster's firehouse. Right. And we got to figure that out. I said simple.

And then they threw in this extra fucking story and threw in a bunch of extra characters. And it just, it watered it down too much. Yeah. Because somebody said you got to have a thing. You got to have an artifact that the wrong person gets a hold of, opens it. and then you have this we need a MacGuffin. Yeah, you have this world-stopping

entity that comes out of it. Yeah. That it would have been really cool this wasn't for kids because like that scene with the, the icicle, giant icicles popping up. Yeah.

Yeah, I thought, because the trailer starts with that. Remember, the trailer starts, it shows you how New York City is getting all these icicles and popping up. And it's not a bit hard. The trailer. Yeah, the trailer's way darker

than the film. The love interest for Finn Wolfhard, she gets frozen in the trailer, and you got the close-up of her eye. Ah, but not in the movie. The Goldbuster and Clayney. She never gets frozen. They all get frozen there for a second until...

Well, not like in the trailer, because she had straight fear. Like she was dying. Yeah. Until the ghost tries to redeem herself and lights the match or whatever, and then Camille Noon Jari comes in. like he's from a totally fucking different movie.

He did the finger guns like the, I'm about to say the elementals. What the fuck was it called? Oh yeah, just like the Eternals, Eternal, yeah. Elements, Eternals, whatever. Elements. Like, why are you doing finger guns? Right. They should have had paper boys.

Because he ain't going to do them in part two from everything we've heard, so might as well do them in this movie. Go down. All right. You guys ready to wrap up? Yeah, Paul Rudd, you're better. Yeah, again, that whole thing about his whole, like, you know, arc of, like, trying to be a good step that just literally by setting boundaries, the simplest, well, it's not so simple, but, you know,

the expectation as a parent is that you set boundaries, and that's literally his arc, like, come on, bro. And they have that whole scene where it's like, how many parents, like, do that every day, and for this movie, it's supposed to be, like, this big thing, you know? Because he's 55 years old, and he's not here afraid to set boundaries. You know what I'm saying? But anyways. But yeah.

Had the movie just been like the four new Ghostbusters with cameos from the originals, just like Afterlife was. And I'd have a podcast because he didn't do shit anyway. So it would have been great. Again, where is his parents? He's staying with this man he just met. Dan, after he's like taking care of him, right? I mean, let's hope it's not a Michael Jackson scenario.

Dude, I watched that Nickelodeon fucking thing. Oh, shit, I watched that too. Holy shit. They are fucking monsters. That is called four-part series. Yeah. Oh, boy. It's on Max Land.

And I imagine it's not just Nickelodeon. No, because you remember that in, and I forgot which episode it was, we're totally off topic. But one of the guys that was fired for, his evil shit he was doing got a job at Disney after. Yeah. He went to jail for somebody that worked at the staff. He had to register as a sex offender and then got hired on on a Disney show. Somebody had Nickelodeon

on one of the shows Lance was the actual convicted sex offender and they hired him. He was on the staff. There was like three of them on the same fucking show. Yeah. What? Yeah. It's horrible. horrible watch it man's on it's on max yeah all right I'll get around to it but in the meantime instead so instead of Frozen Empire this should be Ghostbusters 5 on 10 right yeah yeah it wasn't it wasn't really good it was disappointing all right well slot machine that's a jackpot anyway thanks for joining us Pedro what what's going on with you

man nothing man I'm excited right now I'm just excited for wrestling is very I mean Brian's gonna back me up on this wrestling's on fire right now. They're you know I consider going to a WrestleMania this year in Philadelphia man that getting price is like $200 just to that's like just to get in the door first market price it's not even secondary market and that's nosebleeds so right now they're on fire they're selling out all the shows that they do and so it's just an exciting time to be a fan right now the Rock is killing it you know he's in a wrestle twice at WrestleMania 9-1 no I know once actually just in the tag match

and AW's picking it up as well. They've got some good things coming up. They're more centered on, like, just having some great matches, dream matches, and they're doing just that. So I'm just kind of excited to be a fan right now of wrestling. So that's what I've been doing with my spare time, watching wrestling. Cool. All right, man.

Well, you're always welcome here, dude. We appreciate when you swing by. And thanks for helping us out on March Madness. Oh, no problem. I think I've been to all of it. of them. I think I've... I think so. Just yeah. I've worked the gamut of just working out. So it's always, it's always fun to do those shows. You probably worked every possible role that we have to do a March Madden's episode. Yes, yes. You've been the heel, you've been the hero. The heel and the

face. Right. That's right. So yeah, so thank you guys for having me. It's always fun to do these. Always, always. All right. And as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Check us out on all of our social medias and Thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, we're going to check out the brand new Godzilla X-Kong, the new empire, and also go back to 1962 for King Kong versus Godzilla.

So, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.