The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #41: Kong Week: King Kong (1933), King Kong (1976) & Kong: Skull Island (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 21, 2021

We review the classic King Kong, the 1976 remake, and Kong Skull Island. Thanks for listening!

Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers.

And the foulest. of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Greetings, listeners, you have found the horror returns. For all of you who delight in dread, fantasize about fear and glorify gore, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror movie. then go back and we find a classic work with similar themes

looking at both similarities and differences. Our goal here is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same, from generation to generation, but also to point out how the presentation can change based on the social and the political climate of the times. We will include spoilers for the new film. However, we will wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature,

and we will let you know before we do so by using a spoiler alert, which is probably the best spoiler alert I've ever heard in my life. Thanks for that, Brian. You're welcome. Where'd you find that anyway? It was an app.

You can change your voice or just text or type in something and it'll say it. All right. Well, if you don't wish to hear the spoilers, you'll know when. Simply turn it off at that point and we promise you won't miss a thing.

And we generally assume you guys have already seen the classic film, or in this case, classic films, so there will be spoilers when we're discussing anything that has been out for at least a year. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you could pretty much expect us to be too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip.

How's it going, guys? What's up? Good. Well, Philip, you're out of town, huh? I am. Hopefully, I'm coming through kind of loud and clear. I'm sort of out on the outskirts of Houston right now. I'm at the mother-in-law's house. So this is my time away. All right. You sound loud and clear. What was the coolest thing you've seen this week, man? Oh, man. That is a good question. I think. I want to say Legion again. But, it's starting to concern me a little bit because I feel like it's getting so obscure on whether you're in reality or you're in the guy's mind and it hasn't like

brought it down to a simplified storyline so spending a week between watching it it's kind of hard to remember where in the hell we were and what the hell was going on so I feel like unless you're binge watching the whole series it's almost hard to keep up with and it's only get like four episodes into it. So you're basically saying that we're on a continuous acid trip and we haven't come down yet. Yeah. Well, it's trying to remember the acid trip from last week. So the problem is.

Hey, Brian, you're watching it too, aren't you? I am only on the second episode, so. Okay. Yeah. It's still got my attention, though. Yeah, I got shows I should be watching, but instead of watching them, I start a new show. So I got so much to catch up on.

Well, what was your cool of the week, Brian? Checked out a couple of movies. I watched a couple of movies of trailers that we reviewed. XX, the horror anthology, directed by old women. What would you think about that? I was left a little wanting more. Me too. I watched that one.

I saw that on Facebook that you were watching that. I was like, I was going to say that could be my cool of the week, but it really is not. Really? Yeah. I mean, really, you know, I think there's some talent there with these directors.

It's just out of the, there's four segments, out of the four segments, I think I only like two. Yeah, me too. That's too bad. My wife couldn't hang with it either. That is true.

too bad. But I do see some, like, promise in these directors, though, for some upcoming horror movies, possibly. What else did I check out? I checked out a don't knock twice. Yeah? How was Starboy? Did she have a British accent? No, which was weird, because everybody else did.

Right. I would probably give this a, like, a soft seven. It was a mixture. It had a mixture of witches and demons in it, and it had a cool little story going on. You know, the look of the demon was pretty cool. Kind of similar to, you guys, you guys have checked out lights out, right? Yeah, I haven't seen it. Kind of similar to the look of that, but with, I don't know, crazy long arms and kind of freaky-freakier looking.

It was, I recommend it. It's a good, uh, it's a good watch. Seems like that same type of movie, the, you know, be afraid of the dark, uh, you know, creepy jump scare kind of movie. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And, uh, I like those. And, uh, also, um, got in some more episodes of Black Mirror. Oh, yes.

I will probably be done with the entire series, probably by next week. It's through the third, right? Yeah. Okay. Which I'm kind of watching it all backwards. I finished the first season. And then I heard so much about the third season. I kind of skipped over to second and started the third.

That's what's cool. It doesn't matter. Yeah, which the one with Kurt Russell's son, the VR where he's in kind of like a horror game. Kerr Russell son Is that who that is? Yeah, Wyatt Russell No shit, I had no idea

Wow Yeah, go back and watch it again He, you will see You will see a young Kerr Russell When you look at him Hey, one of the guys from From Kong Was in an episode of Black Mirror, right?

Yeah, Toby Kevall Okay He was in an episode I was like, hey, I know that guy Yeah, he was in an episode So with the, where he was taking, where you can take pictures with your eyes or whatever. Yeah. Oh, that's right.

And he kept rewinding and obsessing over his girlfriend. That's a cool show, man. Yeah, it is. I would probably say so far every episode I've watched, I, I like them all. There's not one I don't like. Yeah, some are better, some are better than others, but they're all quality. Yeah. I really like the Bryce Dowell's Howard one, where you got the different ratings on a, when you,

basically your social media, how many likes you get, and how many five stars, four stars. Oh, yeah, yeah. I really like how it, I like how it ended. If you get the bad reviews or whatever, then nobody wants to be your friend.

Yeah. But, yeah, that's pretty much what I checked out this week. Yeah, I'm glad you're, I'm glad you're catching up with Black Mirror, man. I haven't, I mean, there's some episodes that are better than others, but I haven't seen what I haven't liked. That's for sure. Yeah.

was a big surprise, man. Something I was not expecting at all. It was on HBO's. I thought, okay, this looks like it's just basically a drama. It's something that I can watch with AJ and we can both get into a little bit. You guys ever heard of a movie called A Bigger Splash?

No. No, I haven't. All right. Well, why the hell am I talking about a drama on a horror podcast you might be wondering? And that's what I thought about 80% of the way through the movie. And then this movie, I mean, little dark things were happening throughout it.

Little games, people were playing with each other, and they're fucking with their minds and stuff like that. But you get about 80% of the way through the movie, and it's something really fucking dark happens. I mean, it takes a really odd turn. And it's got a pretty good cast that has Tilda Swinton and Ray Fines are probably the two main actors. And, you know, a couple other people you might recognize from some other things. but the photography and this was just gorgeous. It was all filmed in Italy, and there were a lot of nice outside shots,

and then a lot of use of color that was really nice. But I think the acting was the best part of it, especially Ray Fines. He was just out of control. So I looked this director up. Directors named Luca Guadagnino, Italian director. Have you guys heard of him?

Uh-uh. Nice job on that name. I tried. he is going to be directing the upcoming remake of Susperia. Okay, okay. So if you guys get a chance, don't sell this movie short just because it looks like it's just a drama. It's definitely worth the watch.

It's called A Bigger Splash. I think you guys would enjoy it. Okay. You said it was on HBO? It's on HBO right now. Cool. That is it. So we covered our cool of the week, guys.

Thank you. That's it. All right, I guess it's time for horror headlines then. Brought to you by Brian. Okay, it's funny that you just brought up Suspira, because this is for our overseas listeners, and anybody in the United States that has a region-free Blu-ray player, they are releasing a 40th anniversary leather book edition of Suspira on Blu-ray.

I saw that on the Facebook page. Yes, it is coming out May 15th, it is limited to 1,111 copies. Interesting. Yes. Which I do not own a region-free Blu-ray player, because I feel like eventually they'll just release it here in the United States. I'm sure they will.

At least if it's successful, you know. Yeah. Which, you know, selling, what, a thousand copies or whatever? Yeah, that'll sell out. Do they use that in the UK, Brian? Do you know? Region free? Or?

Because I'm, well, I'm thinking that our friend, our friend Duncan McLeish over there at the podcast Under the Stairs. Oh, I know for sure he's going to get this one. It's already done, huh? Yeah, I see when he posts pictures of stuff he, movies he buys, and I'm pretty sure this is going to be in his collection. No doubt. Okay, our first item here, the X-Men movie universe. TV spinoff officially gets titled and the title is gifted.

What does that mean? What's going to, like, is it new mutants? No, this is a TV show that is going to be based off of the current movie universe, which that I don't know what that means because. That's a super vague explanation, man. I don't know because one minute it seems like they're rebooting the whole thing and then I'm hearing stories that they're keeping actors

and continuing with... Right. Yeah, so I'm confused. Yeah, that whole timeline for X-Men is super fucking weird. Yeah. They use it to their advantage, though. Right. This is a burn notice creator,

Matt Nix is the showrunner. And a few people that I took note that have been casted is Stephen Moyer from True Blood. Jamie Chung, she's going to be playing Blink, which she actually did show up in the, what was it, Days of Future Past. Right. She was the one that creates little portals to teleport through. Right. Okay. And, yeah, I posted the rest of the cast list on her page.

Um, yeah, I don't know about this one. Uh, this sounds less interesting. When I, when I, when I seen, uh, the trailers for Legion and read about it, I was really intrigued with that one. This one sounds like just them saying it's going to be based off the movie universe in the same universe. I'm already not feeling it. They got to throw in, I think they need to throw in at least one or two big name characters in there. I mean, this would be a great, a great chance to recast for, But, you know, if they're casting him on a on a TV show budget, it may not be the guy we want, no.

May not be one of them. Oh, did you guys make your three picks, by the way? Oh, I did. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, since we just talked about X-Men, I guess we can, we can wait on the rest of the news and just do our picks right now. We don't have to. If you guys are ready, we can go into it, you know, it just depends on whatever you guys can do.

I can finish the news. It's slow news week. Finish the moves. Then we'll do our X-Men picks. Okay. Moving on. Also in the X-Men universe, Atlanta breakout star,

Zazi Beetz has been cast as Domino in the Deadpool movie. I heard about that. Yeah. I've only seen her in Atlanta, and she was really good, so I don't, I can't really, base anything else off of. I know

she can be funny. Right. But as far as action and stuff, I really don't know. I mean, she's got a domino sort of look to her, so I think she can pull it off. Yeah? Yeah. I always liked that

character, because I read a lot of the X-Men comic books for years, and I thought that Domino character was always pretty cool. Yeah, so this is probably going to lead, and this is probably going to be the one of the things that lead into X-Force. Yeah.

Do you guys think it's strange that they announced this casting and still no cable? I think they're hiding the cable thing for the Deadpool release. Okay. That makes sense.

Because that's going to be their big name. Right? Yeah. As long... I just thank you. Well, you know, any piece of media or

fan frenzy that they can throw at Deadpool right now is gold. All they have to do is give you a little nibble. It's not even fishing. It's shooting fish in a barrel, you know? Yeah. I'm just glad he didn't pop up at the end of Logan. Yeah. Okay. You were saying cable pop up and take the girl back to the past or something. Come on. Let's go. My rating would have dropped so low. Okay. At the end of a serious moment. Oh, my gosh.

What are you doing? I could see him running into that, what was it? Were they playing the Superman music and the teaser? Oh, no. I see what's funny. Okay. Preacher season two, premier date is going to be June 19th. All right.

still haven't finished first season but uh i haven't either guys guys come on i mean where i'm i think i'm like an episode or two from finishing so it started picking up but i had like kind of dropped off because it got real slow but um hopefully i'll have it finished by june i don't i don't know like i said i keep i You can start by shows. I know you want. I would say it's worth to watch.

I think the last two episodes are both pretty action-packed. I know what you mean about it dropped off a little bit. I thought, actually, I thought my favorite part of the season was like the first third of the season. You guys remember the one that started out where it looked like the girls were getting hunted by serial killers with guns. Yeah. And then come to find out there out there playing half-naked, paintball or whatever and somebody fell in that hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought that part was pretty cool because they just threw me for a loop with that, but I think you'll like the last two episodes. Definitely going to try to finish that. Okay, let's see. We are officially getting another spawn movie from Todd McFarlane. Oh, I heard. Officially going to be R-rated, and they said, right now it's just in development.

but they said it's going to be more dark and nasty than Deadpool and Logan. He's supposed to be like, he's, spawns supposed to be like the, it's going to be like a horror thing. He's supposed to be the bad guy, the boogeyman. Yeah. Wow. No kidding.

The only thing that kind of turns me away from this one, I think Todd McFarland's trying to direct it. Yeah, it worries me because he's taken kind of a different approach than the comic does. I mean, from the little that I've heard from it, you know? And, uh, I mean, it, it might be cool. It's, it's, it's kind of a gamble.

It could really pay off and it may be cool or it could fall on its face as one of the few in the list of superhero movies. It really sucks right now. Yeah. Just keep, uh, John Legu Zamo out of there and I'll be happy. I like Johnny Liggs, man. I thought he fucking ruined that movie. He was terrible.

As a clown, he was horrible. Well, that movie was just not great to begin with. Yeah, there was a lot of things that ruined that movie. Yeah. And our last news item is probably something that's going to come not much of a surprise to anybody. Avatar 2 release date of December 25th, 2018 has been polled. What? They have not said why, but I never thought this movie was coming out.

they just built an Avatar World and Disney World Yeah I don't know I think they were a little too ambitious Because they're supposed to be making what four or five more Right Really? Yeah and it's something that's supposed to go I don't know what I read

It's supposed to go to like Avatar 5 He's building special cameras for underwater And all kinds of I don't know maybe Man that's one that didn't really hold up for me I know it was super big when it came out, and it was a great movie to watch. But, you know, I saw it once or twice, and I'm like, now I'm done. I don't really need to see it again. Yeah, I've seen it probably twice, and then I never had the urge to go back and watch it.

Right. And then when they said they were making three or four more, I was just kind of like, eh. Yeah, it's not super exciting to me. So, yeah, slow news week. and I guess we can get into our Wolverine picks. Yeah, for sure. I mean, so last week we had had a discussion about who do we think should play the new Wolverine and keeping Tom Hardy out of the conversation.

I don't know, you guys may have. Oh, we're keeping Tom Hardy out. Okay, no, I keep him in there. I think he has to at least get mentioned. All right, so who are your three picks, Brian? If you were the casting agent, all right, for the new X-Men movie, and you could pick anyone, who would it be? Well, obviously, I put Tom Hardy because I didn't hear that part,

because I don't see anybody else in this role. Right. The only problem is I'm pretty sure they're going to try to go younger than what Tom Hardy is. Yeah, probably, which I don't like. I think that they should go older, grizzled. Tom Hardy, I couldn't think of anybody to play. Wolverine at all until you said Tom Hardy and I was like

okay I can live with that yeah it got to the point where I wrote Tom Hardy's name down like three times because I know right but if they were going to go younger I picked Scott Eastwood okay all right I think he's prime to get into a big role

he kind of he got teased that he had a big role in suicide squad and we kind of seen what happened to his character and I know he's in the new Fast and Furious movie and I think he's just like a side character Yeah, he does a lot of side characters But I think he's, I think he's poised to being something big And I think it would be smart for somebody to snatch him up

For one of these franchises And my next My next pick, I'm probably going to butcher his name Mikel Hewesman Who the hell is that? He was, he's Dario in Game of Thrones. Ah, okay. I kind of feel like he has a look.

You know, he's already, he's got some training in, obviously, you know, from his action scenes on the show. And I think, I think he could fit the part. I don't know how gruff and grizzled he could be kind of moody. You know, we haven't really seen that because he's kind of jokey and playful most of the time. on the show. Right. So, and yeah, and of course, my number one pick was Tom Hardy. That's my dream casting right there. This is Tom Hardy. All right. What about you, Phil?

I've got a few of them. I had to go to the internet and look for some lists. And some of the names I found, I kind of like. So I'm not going to pretend that I just came up with these off the top of my head. I think one of the toughest guys in Hollywood is going to be you know Tom Hardy would do good man I think you have to put him on the list I think he's really the only one that I can think of

I think of Jason Statham as being really super tough but I don't think he looks apart right how are you going to put a wig on that dude and make him like that guy's he'll be goofy looking sideburn Taylor Kitch is one whose name has been brought up. I think he's stuck on the Gamping thing.

Let him stay stuck on it, man. Jesus Christ. I saw Jake Gyllenhaal listed. Ah, he's on my list. You know what? I think Jake Gyllenhaal could do it, man. That guy, I love everything that he's been in lately. Right.

And he can transform his body to do whatever he is. Yes. The only concern that I have is that he has a very kind face. Yeah. Which works when he plays like a... Right. A question with that. Uh-huh.

With the type of roles he picks, do you think he would get himself locked down in a franchise? I don't think so. I think he's got more money than he knows what to do with. Yeah. So he's picking roles that he wants to play. Right, but hey, guys, this isn't just any character. I mean, this isn't just any frame.

We're talking Wolverine here, man. You know, if he's got a nerd growing up, this guy played Bobble Boy for Christ's sake. That's true. He was a comic book reader. I'll bet he would do it, man. He might. But, yeah, he's got like a kind face. I'm not sure that he, even he, I mean, it works well as a psychopath, which he's really good at playing.

Right. Well, he kind of had that grizzled look in, what was it, South Paul? Yeah, and that's what I was thinking. That's the picture I saw of him all ripped up in South Paul, and he did look like a grizzled kind of boxer that, you know, but I'm still not sure that he could pull off the stern, serious Wolverine face. Aside from that, I think he's a great actor and he can play the part.

James Kahn's son, Scott Kahn. He's on my list, too, man. It's one that got brought up a few times. I know. I went a little overboard on it. He would just have to dye his hair, that's all. Yeah, because he just, just because he looks the part, you know, he's more of a comedy guy. Yep.

But, uh, but he's, he is super cool and super slick and I've liked everything that I've seen him in. So, I'm bad. He's a, you know, you're not seeing it, Brian. Yeah, man. No, because I, I feel, I'm picturing how he would play it in my mind. I know, right? And I think I would just, I would, I would hate that character so much. Well, it's just because he played.

he's kind of the same character in every movie that he's in. He's like the short stocky guy. What was he Fast and Furious? Where he him and his brother? No. I don't know about that on his He's 11. Him and his brother are like the the

his brother races little cars and stuff. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he kind of looks the part. He just has to change his persona a little bit. But then Shia Leboof is a name that got

Thorn around. No, no. Worst ever. Come on. I don't know. I think he could, I think he could actually, I know,

right? I think, you know what? I think he's a good actor. I think he could pull it off. But I think he's kind of. I don't want to see that X-Men movie. I don't think he's,

I don't even, because of his experience with Transformers, I don't think he wants to do franchise movies anymore. Probably not. Plus, like you said, he's absolutely insane. So that too. Definitely doesn't want to get locked into like a franchise movie or something like that. But when I was thinking, who could play Wolverine? My first thought went to, who was the guy that played Sabretooth?

Oh, Liv Shriver. Right. Okay. Shia LeBuff looks just like him, I think. They're very similar looking in the face. Yeah. He could be Liv Shriver's like Youngstrivers. brother. Yeah. Like if if Shai had like super bulked up and I mean he's not super

tall so that works and he's already got the aggression thing down. We know that from all the lawsuits. I think he could really pull it off. It's crazy but I think he could do it and if they're going to go younger, you know I'd have to see it for him to

prove himself. But I'd be open to watching that. Man boy they'd uh They'd really be opening a can of worms with trying to rain him in, man. Yeah. I don't think anybody wants to get mixed up with that, dude. All right, all right. Well, you make a compelling argument.

Brian, are you buying into this? James, James Conson, no. Shire LaBourke, I think I would check that movie out because I'm curious now. Yeah. Curious is a good word, I guess. I think that he's got potential that he could play that part, and he could play that part great. Because he's got just the right level of, like, frustrated, crazy anger, you know, just naturally. Man, that would be interesting, that's for sure.

Is that your rundown, man? Yeah, I think that's it. But, I mean, I got to go with Tom Hardy as the top of the list. Yeah, well, I mean, it goes without saying Tom Hardy would be perfect. I just, the reason I didn't want to bring him up is because I, I think there was like a news item that it was just a rumor or something like that or that he wasn't interested in the part. Oh, that he wasn't? Yeah, I thought I heard that. I think that could change because Hugh Jackman's publicly came out saying if he had a pick, it would be Tom Hardy.

Oh, really? And they did. And Fox recently. He did come out and say that. Yeah, Fox recently just said. that Hugh Jackman's going to be involved in picking the next Wolverine. That's cool. Okay.

All right. Well, if it's not Tom Hardy and it's not Jake Jillon Hall and it's not Scott Con, which would make Brian really happy, I'm actually going to go with Captain Kirk himself, Chris Pine. Oh. Huh. I think he can pull it off. Have you guys seen that movie Stretch?

Yeah. The limo driver? Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely crazy and hairy in that movie. Oh, yeah, he was great in that movie. Chris Pines... Chris Pines are really good actor. Yeah, he played crazy in that one movie.

What was it? It had a whole bunch of different actors in it. It had like Ryan Reynolds. It had to do with like a hitman. Was it? Smoking ace. Yeah, smoking aces. Yeah, he was pretty crazy.

that one too. That dude's pretty good and he's got the right height for it. He just need to bulk up a little bit to catch up with his gigantic head. Right. Yeah, and I'm going to call it now. I think he's going to be one and done with DC.

Chris Pine? Yeah, because Wonder Woman is going to be a period piece. Oh, right. He's in Wonder Woman. I forgot about that. Yeah, he's obviously not going to live. Right, yeah. Toward, you know, today. So. Pulls up as like some

Bucky character later on down the line. Oh man. If they do that, man, what a rip-off that'll be, huh? How obvious would that be? Jesus Christ. I can see... I can see Chris Pine.

Yeah, I can do that. Well, we got our, yeah, we got our picks. So Tom Hardy, if you're listening to the podcast, and you are available, you're our man. If Tom Hardy's listening to our podcast, we got a lot of shit and guys. going for us, man. What up, bro? Come hang out with us. We'll invite you on the show and pay you to do it. Hey, I love Taboo. I'm glad you guys got the second season, all right?

All right. So, uh, what time is it, Brian? It is time to go to the trailer park. What do you think about that, Phil? That place scares me, man. Well, I don't know. This week, uh, there's some trailer parking characters in there. There's some creepy characters, and there's some creepy characters, and there's some, some, well, we'll get into it, but there's some interesting trailers this week, so we'll take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week? First one we're going to talk about is the dark tapes.

That's the weird one. Yeah, I am not going to run down this cast or director list because there is a lot of cast. Or anthology. Yes. Right. I got a very VHS vibe from this from this trailer I thought it was another VHS movie

just titled differently. Is it not part of the same series? No, it's its own thing and there was a I can't, my mind's going blank. There is another found footage movie. Oh my gosh, I can't think of it. It looked like, I can't think of it. It looked like that

mixed with VHS. Okay. There's so many of them now. Yeah, that's the problem. Because it's so easy to produce a found footage movie, I mean, we could do one. That's our next great idea. Oh, my God. I think you guys have seen this movie I'm talking about.

They're like a TV show, like, you know, the ghost hunters type shows, and they go investigate something. And basically, they're a fake show. And where they go, stuff starts happening for real. is it an anthology? No, it's just a movie. It has a sequel. They're all right movie. I can't think of it.

I think it's the tip of my tongue. I know what you're talking about now. Man, because the director did something else pretty recently. Yeah, all these damn found footage movies popped by head. Maybe one of our listeners can educate us on that. Yes, please do. I don't know if I get down about. Anyway.

No, but this one actually, it's, you know, like I said, there's so many of them that come out, and it's so easy to get bad ones that fall into the mix because they're, you know, it takes no money really to make this happen. But this one looked pretty genuinely creepy, I thought. Horror anthology kind of scares me. I mean, I know that there's an upside to it, but there's also a downside to it. I mean, they've got to be really good for you to remember them. Like, I couldn't tell you anything that happened in that XX movie that I watched,

because it was like four different movies, and I had no joke, don't remember any of them. Yeah, I can... A couple of them were really bad, though. I could see that. And I can honestly say one of the two that I did like, I was a little confused on what was going on. Yeah. So I think that this one will be better than that, at least. But I don't know.

We'll see what happens, how much they push it. It looks like it's got a bunch of little indie awards on it. So it might actually be decent. Got it right here. Grave Encounters. That's it. Okay, yeah, Grave Encounters 1 and 2. That's right.

Yeah. And who directed that? Well, they did something else recently, correct? Brave Encounters is directed by we are getting... Yo, Mama. I hope not. Is that not who it is? My bad.

It would be really grave then. I can't find it. It's not listed on here. Grave encounters. That sounds familiar. Yeah, but I mean, I'll definitely give this one a shot. It kind of almost looked like they were, you know, they had a couple of really, really cute little chicks in there, too.

Well, I was thinking they have, like, it looks like they have, at least in one of them, they have like a big main villain that looks like a really creepy monster-looking dude. And I'm just kind of excited to see him. okay yeah well and and the cute chicks but yeah the grave encounters directors they're called the vicious brothers guys and the film that i'm thinking of that came out a couple years ago that they did was called extraterrestrial it was on netflix have you guys seen that one i think it's a real creepy alien movie he was really good i think i've seen it yeah it's uh yeah it was one of one of those that you know obviously wasn't a huge budget It was a cabin in the woods movie, but basically with a spaceship.

I thought it was good. I liked it. Yeah, I think I remember seeing that. But going back to the issue at hand, yes, I'll definitely give this one a shot. Yeah, I love a good horror anthology. I mean, sometimes they're a little hit and miss. Right. But I definitely will give this a watch.

Actually, this comes out next week, March 17th. All right. Moving on to our next is a pair of teaser trailers that's actually been out for a while. The Saw Legacy teaser 1 and 2? Mm-hmm. What did you guys think about this? My first thought was why. I mean, they ended the Saw.

They wrapped it up. I love the first two Saw movies. And one of these teasers really did kind of look like a callback to the first Saw. But didn't the villain die or am I thinking of another series? I thought he did too, but then they teased it. He was like coming back. It looked like almost. Which villain?

There was like a different one in every movie. I know. That's a good point. I thought it was just the old dude, man. The old man. He died like, spoiler, if you haven't seen it, but he died in like the third one or something like that. Yet they found a way to keep him going, so why not keep him going? You know, well, he is listed.

I don't think we're really watching Saw movies for the plot. He is listed in the, uh, I am. and db for this one so i don't know oh boy tobin bell is that his name yeah i don't i don't know i'm not i'm not a i'm not real hype for this one yeah it's not something that really piqued my interest either you know like i saw i saw the preview and i'm like yeah you know maybe i'll watch that i i can tell you if i watched the past couple of saw movies i'm sure i probably did at some point but i don't know when i don't remember what they're about yeah i mean they all kind of blend together at some point Yeah, I remember that was like the thing every Halloween.

You knew it was Halloween because a new Saw movie was coming out. But then they just got boring. They Friday and 13th it. And basically, paranormal activity came and just took over that slot. Yeah, right? Yeah, they're doing it. Yeah. So, yeah, this one is definitely from, I mean, I can't judge it off the teaser, but just the whole idea of Saul coming back is not having me wanting to

rush to the theater to watch it. Especially since the teaser was really only like 15 seconds long. And we were supposed to be getting it this year, October 27. Oh, Jesus. Just in time for Halloween, huh? And we've not seen anything or heard

anything from this. So, well, October 27th, if anybody's interested. Okay. Our next trailer is Atomic Blind. starring Charlize Theron, Sophia Bautela, James McAvoy, and John Goodman. I thought that was James McAvoy.

I wasn't 100% sure, but yeah, this one definitely got my interest, that's for sure. I don't know what you think of it when it first started. You know, I thought, oh, it's just another action movie, but when she met up with, what's her name, Sophia Botella? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it took a nice turn at that point. I was going to say, I hope, I mean, I'm fine with the role Sophia Bettella had in the trailer. I'm more than fine with that, but, you know, I want to, I hope we get some action from her.

Yeah. Yeah. I really liked her in the Kingsman. Right. Yeah. This looks awesome. Like, my first thought was, oh, John Wick with Charlize Theron. John Wick with a chick.

Yeah. And then it was like, James Bond with Charlize Theron. Which is funny you guys say that because it's directed by David Leach, if I'm probably fucking up his name. He was one of the directors of the first John Wick. Oh, nice. Okay. Well, there you go. He also did the Deadpool 2 teaser.

It looked like they put something into those fight scenes, man. Like, this looks cool as shit. It is big budget. It is big star. It is James McEvoy looking like Brad Pitt from Fight Club. and man I think that this is going to be a cult classic as soon as it comes out

I am I'm stoked about this one I am definitely going to watch especially I'll watch this one before I watch that one what trailer did we watch with fucking Michelle Rodriguez where she's supposed to be the dude she's the sex change one I can't remember

oh yeah I know I'm I think I blocked it out of my memory. Yeah, I mean, we all know Kevin's going to go watch it and tell us it's the greatest movie. You think so? But I think Atomic Blonde is where it's at right here. Oh, yeah, dude. That one's going to be kick-ass.

That's going to take Kill Bill off the map. Watch. Oh, come on. Not off the map. You think they're going series with this one? I don't think they'll go series, but I think it'll be better than the Kill Bill series. Okay. What are we getting?

July 28th. So not too far away. Might end up on our list, huh? Yeah. And our final trailer is a new Netflix movie, which I've heard is getting a lot of buzz. It is called Bright, starring Will Smith, Numi Rapace, Joel Edgerton, Edgar Ramirez,

and is directed by David Ayer. Oh, and it's a Netflix movie. That explains that. That explains a lot. David Ayer, that's why Killer Crock was in it. That's why Deadshot was in it. Okay, now I get it. See, I thought it was a sequel to Suicide Squad when I first saw it.

That was Killer Croc, right? I didn't know what that was when I first. So I did a little, in this world, in this movie, there is, like, mythical creatures. And the creatures, some of the creatures we've seen in the trailer, in the little teaser was orcs. Okay. so um yeah uh i think there was enough in this uh teaser to intrigue me right i mean i'm definitely gonna watch it it's it's gonna be straight to netflix yeah netflix so we're already paying for it whether we watch it or not right yeah may as well which they um i didn't get the number of this

i'm pretty sure they paid big money to get this movie because of the recent uh martin scorsese film they purchased did you guys hear about that one I heard something about it. What's that all about? It's going to be based on a true, I forgot the guy's name. He's a true life Irish hitman. And it's going to be directed by Martin Scorsese starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino. Joe Pesci's coming out of retirement to be in it.

And Netflix has got it? Yeah. Wow. Lance, tell me with the actors. name, Bad Lieutenant Reservoir. Yeah, he's also in it.

Awesome. They paid $105 million for that movie. Oh, fuck. Well, look, they took out they took out Blockbuster and Red Box. I guess they're on their way to taking out the movie theaters too, huh? And I don't have the number here with me,

but I think they paid a pretty penny for this movie with Will Smith. Right. I'm sure. Will Smith is it's not like he just does whatever anymore. He's not like hard up for a movie. So based off what we've seen, how did you guys feel about it? Like you said, if it's on Netflix and I've got the time, I'm watching it, period.

Man, I haven't actually got a chance to watch that one yet, but I'm staring at a list of the trailer right here on YouTube. And just from the little screen cap on it, it looks super cool. I'm ready for it. Yeah, I'm, I'm. You know, Netflix has been hitting home runs, which I probably should have included this in the news, you know, getting a little off subject again. Have you guys heard about the recent reviews of Iron Fist? No, I have something that was like pretty bad, right?

Yeah, I guess they, no, they sent to six episodes, the first six episodes, some people to review. And basically every review had the word boring in it. Uh-oh. No. except for maybe one review was kind of good, but not really. So that might be Marvel's first flop right there. That sucks. Well, but here's the thing.

We've got to watch it anyway, you know, because of course we're going to all watch the defenders, right? Absolutely. And this is the bridge to defenders, so. Yeah, but got to watch it anyway applies a whole new meaning when you're talking about a series instead of a movie. But I mean, I mean, you never know, though.

They gave, it's, it's what, the Marvel Netflix shows of 13 episodes? Yeah, I think, yeah, 12 or 13.

Yeah. So, maybe the slow, boring stuff is all set up. And the rest of, the second half could just be knocking it out the park.

It's entirely possible. Because I did. That's tying your own news is what happened there. I gave up on Luke Cage. I haven't finished watching it. I still haven't. I don't plan to. I finally finished it, and I hated that ending.

I really did. Part of the reason I haven't finished watching it is because nobody said it was, wow, this is really awesome. You should totally watch this. Like, Daredevil and that, well, I guess it was Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Jessica Jones. That was a good one, too. Those were both incredible. Yeah, those were both incredible.

They were amazing. The second season of Daredevil was unbelievable. but yeah Luke Cage I was I mean it was cool but I wasn't like super impressed with it wasn't bad it just wasn't good yeah most

most the weakest so far yeah most likely I'll probably for our next show I'll have my own review of at least the first six episodes but just based off the reviews another thing that was brought up a lot

was said the fight choreography was weak oh no and it was the show is very offensive to Asian culture? Ah, fuck that. I don't want to hear any of the offended bullshit. If you're offended, don't fucking watch it, man. I'm so tired of it, dude.

Everything on every social media platform. You're going to start my rant. Why don't you suck the fuck up? How about that? Just watch the fucking show or don't watch it, right? Oh, that's Netflix, there's your commercial. Marshall right there for I of this. Neither fucking watch it or don't.

You're offensive because you have a stereotype for an Asian culture. Guess what the fuck, man? Every movie in the past however many years. Yeah, can't come on. There's a stereotype in every single culture. You can't like,

you can't make a movie now without somebody being offended by something. Oh, man. You know what I say to those people? Right. Clean the sand. out. That's what I say. Hey, well, while we're on that, is it, uh, is it time for listener feedback?

Are we still? Uh, yeah. All right. You have Bill of the chance to, to unwind here for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Bright is, bright is due out December. So. All right.

PC, man. I'm a nice guy, but I have problems with that. Okay. So listener feedback. Uh, this week, we've gotten some comments from, uh, listener, McCalla regarding the Stepford Wives, Carl writes great companion piece to the

recent get out, thanks to the horror return boys, was somewhat hesitant about Jordan Peel directing a thriller slash horror movie and wow, was I pleasantly surprised. I'm right there with you because I was super concerned about Jordan Peel

doing anything horror and it was really awesome. And he said really strong movie 9 on 10. And I actually paused the podcast and went back to watch it. Back to the spoiler section tomorrow. Oh, awesome. Well, let us know how the spoiler section was.

Usually we're off the rails by then. Another piece of listener feedback that came in, Patrick, our buddy writes in again, Patrick Clear, about the shop in the Stephen King series. He said he did a little digging on it. sent us a Wikipedia site. So I'll give you a brief summary of that. Basically, the shop is a fictional top secret United States government agency, obviously. It's similar to the syndicate in the X-Files. It plays a central role as the antagonist in the novel Firestarters, the mini-series Golden Years, the film The Lawnmower Man,

also has an element in the novel The Tommy Knockers Looks like it comes up in the mist The Langlears The Stand So a whole lot of Stephen King stuff involves the shop Wow

Yeah I know right I had no idea It just It all clicked after we started Talking about it the other day And then Let's see He went on to write

I was thinking they were involved with the dead zone, but I guess not. I wanted to share some thoughts about Logan and the X-Men movies. I liked Logan and thought the movie was well done. I'll give it an eight. Probably my favorite behind first class. Philip O'Brien mentioned the reeds

and how they weren't as scary as the villains overall besides the X-24 weapon, and I totally agree. Probably my single biggest disappointment with the movie. In the late 80s, early 90s, comics, the Revers were a vicious group of cyborg mercenaries led by Lady

Death Strike. I wanted to mention that, but I didn't want to get too nerdy. Although this is the podcast to do it on. Unfortunately, we saw her demise in X-Men 2. I would have rather seen her back and more vicious Revers instead of the made-up X-24.

I'm ready for... You know what? That probably would have been a better idea. And I think he probably should have done that, except they may have sold the rights to Lady Death Strike. It always ends up with some sort of money thing. I'm ready for

Brian Singer to walk away from the X-Men and stop ruining these great characters and storylines. Well said. Fox should really think about partnering with Marvel and completely rebooting the series. Yep. Keep the show coming guys. You're doing a great job.

Awesome. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you. As always, you can reach us at the HoraTurns at gmail. or just search for the horror returns at any of the social medias, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, something that I'm leaving out. We have Snapchat? Is that a thing? I don't do Snapchat.

We don't do Snapchat. Buck Snapchat. All right, cool. So we really do appreciate the feedback, guys, and we definitely love getting it. We'll read it every time you send it in. And now it's time for our featured attractions. It's Kong Week on the Horror Returns. as if you couldn't tell from all the lead-up,

if you follow the Facebook page or anything. So we'll start out with the classic 1933 original King Kong. We're also going to review the 76 remake, and then, of course, the new Kong Skull Island. So the trivia for King Kong 1933, directors were Marion C. Cooper and Ernest B. Shodzak. I guess they all used their middle initials back in those days. And this is weird.

It said both of whom were uncredited, I'm not quite sure that was the case, or why that was the case, but I guess credits were done differently back then as well. Writers were James Creelman and Ruth Rose. The Laserdisc edition of this film includes the first ever audio commentary. That's a pretty big deal. This film, along with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Laurel and Hardy movies, were thought to be Adolf Hitler's favorites. That's a fun fact. It is a fun fact.

It is 2013 book The Collaboration, Hollywood's Packed with Hitler. Harvard scholar Ben Irwin documents how George Gisling, the Nazi Party special console, assigned to monitor Hollywood films, thought this scary monster ape might possibly be an attack on the nerves of the German people. But there are other examples where Nazi leaders privately liked and consumed works of art they condemned and censored in public. Kind of sounds like North Korea now. Yeah. And the title character, King Kong, does not appear until 47 minutes into the picture. Brian, you saw this one, right?

Yes. What did you think? You know, this was my first time actually viewing the whole thing entirely. I've always seen bits and parts of it. I actually had fun with this one. There was a few things that kind of irritated me, but overall, like the effects was kind of neat to say, you know, at least because of what they had to work with in the 30s.

Right. And one of the things that really bothered me was the main, what was, I got her name here. Fayray. Fayree? Yes. I thought she was fucking horrible. Oh, man, I couldn't disagree with you more, dude. 1933, dude.

Well, I'll tell you one thing. She was gorgeous. Oh, absolutely. But all she did was scream. that's all she did and I didn't buy the romance between her and the one character that was on the ship John what's is I can't remember his last name I've seen all the movies and the names are different in every single one I didn't buy it it happened too quickly because there was one scene where it just seemed like he wanted to smack her in the mouth just for being a woman on the ship and then the next minute

he was madly in love with her. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. And, you know, I got to kind of give it a pass because it's 1933. But like, yeah, I see what you're saying. Because there's one scene where he's like, you know, I think I love you. Yeah.

I was, I mean, don't get me wrong. I've seen, I also watched the 2005 one. Right. And that one, that romance. actually kind of happens a little, a little, not as quick, but also it just kind of left me scratching my head. I was, like,

nothing happened between you two to have this, you know, love for each other. And, um, but I don't want to speak about 2005 one, that one. Listen, see. That's my 1933 voice. But I thought,

spot on, man. For, for it being 1933, I thought the effects were really cool. I thought some of them were kind of funny. I don't think they meant to be funny. Right. One of the funniest scenes is, I think, is a scene in all of them where he always mistakes the girl for another girl, and he always ends up throwing that girl when he

figures out it's not the right one. Yeah, they bring that up again. That's definitely a high point of the King Kong series, for sure. But I definitely like this one. Except you didn't really get. that sympathy for Kong that you do in the other movies. True.

It's just, he was just a monster. Right. And, um, kind of don't like that part. I always like the, the sympathy that,

you know, he was taken from his, his, his home and was captive. And, you know, he's just, just fucked with the entire movie.

And now getting a chance to watch this, this original and this entirety. I kind of just didn't like how there was just not any kind of sympathy for him at all. They didn't portray his side enough. Yeah. But overall, I enjoyed it for the most part. Yeah, I'm going to have a little bit of a different impression of it, man.

I actually really enjoyed this one quite a bit. And I thought that the, you know, you're talking about it. First of all, it's about an hour and a half long movie. All right? The 76 movie was, what, two and a half hours? I think so. Yeah, I mean, it flared. Was it?

Yeah, it flushed out about another hour worth of stuff. I'm easily going to forgive what you were referring to as, you know, felt like they just kind of hated each other and then fell in love. Because, I mean, there's no telling how long they were out on that ship. You know, and it's a movie, dude. They're not going to show every single thing that happens. I mean, I was able to get past that. I thought the special effects, considering when this thing came out, were fucking phenomenal. When you consider that this is, what, about eight years after?

or there was even any sound in movies? This film was almost 100 years old, man. It's getting there. It's getting on it. It's getting there. Absolutely. I thought, I thought Faye Ray was great, man. I mean, I thought, look, man,

it was a different culture back then. Women were expected to just basically do nothing but scream and be helpless and wait for the man to save them, you know? It wasn't even just that. Just watching all it, because I've been King Kong all week with all these movies, He's just King Kong after King Kong. And her portrayal of Anne, she played it kind of like she was dumb, a little naive to everything. And you don't know.

And you don't think that in the 76 version, that that vibe was there too? I took her. I can start on that one. Yeah, I have a different take on that one. I wouldn't call her dumb or naive. I would call her on X, the entire movie. Exactly. I thought she was, even, okay, we're not into that movie yet.

We'll get to there. But all I say about her portrayal in the 76 one, I felt like she was in her own little dream world that was in her head. That's a good way to say it. Fair enough. But. Go ahead, man. But yeah, that was another thing. I don't think I completely just hated the character the way she played it.

Right. Yeah, I mean, I look at this movie. First of all, I wasn't expecting it to be. I wasn't expected to enjoy it nearly as much as I did, because I've seen it a few times, but it's been many years, and I don't know if I've seen the whole thing through either until this one. But it was just a rollicking adventure from start to finish. I was really incredibly impressed with what they pulled off, considering what little things they had to work with in studios back then and special effects and whatnot.

I thought it was a great story. I thought it was great fun. I love the fact that there were like three different fucking monsters that he killed to protect her. I really enjoyed that. And I kind of like the stop motion, look kind of like claymation a little bit. That's sort of like it reminds you of Gumby or something, kind of a more innocent time. I really got a kick out of this. What do you think, Philip?

Yeah, I like the stop motion thing because it's a little creepier to me. It always has been. And this is, King Kong is one of my. childhood favorites. For some reason or another, we had the original version of King Kong laying around when I was a kid. So I've seen this movie a thousand times. And I was really excited about watching it again. It seems like it's longer than it is because it's from 1933.

Right. There's not a ton of dialogue in it. It's just about, I think it's about the special effects. Because at that time, those special effects have got to be on point. Because this movie holds up surprisingly well. I really loved it. I mean, I can't hold it to the same standards as like a movie that came out today. Like, I mean, obviously, if I see this movie come out today, it's terrible.

But looking on when it came out, man, that is a masterpiece. It's held up. We're still watching it now. And this movie came out in 1933. Is there another movie that came out before 1960 that we would even talk about on this show? I mean, except maybe like Noose for. Ratu or some shit. Because

King Kong's about it, man. And I think that they did a really good job on it. I see what you're saying with the love story. But yeah, I can look past that too because they only had a short amount of time to make it happen.

And they just needed a reason for him to go after the girl. Obviously he's in love with her. There is a good reason to go after the girl. So in the next scene they say, hey, I love him. you see just like they went from there that that's how quickly they found out back then huh pretty much she was probably 13 you guys ready for rate i'll tell you what she has fay ray definitely has what back in those days they would refer to as gams you know what that

means gams she had she had the legs boy she's got the legs yeah buddy she was kicking them too and screaming hard she was just used the very first screen queen. Ah, it's a good way to look at it. Well, I guess you guys are ready for ratings, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think I went first.

I am going to give this a seven. Like I said, this was my first full viewing. I've only seen bits and parts, but I enjoyed it all the way through, except for the lead character, Fay-rays, her name. Right. Yeah. I just completely hated her. May I ask how King Kong is a freak.

Did you guys, did you guys check the scene where he was like rubbing her and then smelling his fingers? Oh, sure. And ripping his clothes off. I'm still trying to figure out the, uh, the physics of that. Like he barely fits in, she barely fits in his hand. Right. I mean, I guess, you know, just from what they show in the movie, maybe he's hung like a human. And his, his gigantic monkey fingers would squids.

wash it. And so he has to have this wife. My mind is sick. Oh, boy. Wow. You're really, you're going out there. I'm going to give it a seven. Will they allude to this whole sexual thing from 1933 to 1976 to even the new one? And I'm like, how would that even work? They don't allude. They don't allude to it. They don't allude to it in the 76 one. Oh, yeah. Well, she was probably ready for it in the 76.

Yeah. we'll get to that okay who's next I think Lance you're next yeah I give it I give an 8 on 10 man I think it holds up really well

I just I'm just blown away by how good it looked and how cool the story was and just the sense of adventure that I got watching it considering what again considering what they had to work with yeah I uh I kind of have a hard time

rating this because it do you look at it I mean because when it came out it had to be 10 I mean, had to be, because it still holds up and it's still good. But looking at it today, I think I have to go six. Like, would our general audience want to watch this? Man, you really got to be a movie buff. Of course, if you're listening to a movie podcast,

I might want to check it out. But it definitely holds up a lot better than I expected it to. It was still really fun to watch. the special effects were you know not too far off from the 70s one and you know that was 40 years earlier so I think it was a great movie man

it was it was really fun to watch all right so jumping ahead 43 years we go to the 1976 version of King Kong director was John Gillerman also known for the Towering Inferno and King Kong lives Brian, you heard of that one?

Yeah. Okay. Fucking horrible movie. Writer was Lorenzo Simple Jr., also known for Flash Gordon, and the original Batman TV series. So that guy's written some good stuff. Employees of the Empire State Building expressed their displeasure at the producer's decision to stage the remake's climax

at the World Trade Center by picketing the 102nd second floor of the Empire State Building dressed in Monkey Series. suits. So they weren't too happy about that. Filming took an exhausting 12 hour a day, eight-month shoot from January 76 to August 76. The New York climax was filmed in June, with a casting call sent out for 5,000 extras needed. Come time for filming, over 30,000 people showed up and were gladly used. And King Kong does not appear until nearly 53 minutes into the film.

I haven't watched this one probably as many times. as you guys have. My King Kong intro was that 1933 version. But I've seen this one before and I remember it. I don't remember it vividly. But after going back and watch it, man, it was definitely

a lot of fun. They showed a lot more of King Kong's like empathy. So you wanted to feel for the ape. I thought that the the chick in it was super cute and flirty but yeah dude i mean we got it we got to talk about jessica lang

yeah she was uh super super cute and flirty but she was like went from flirty to slutty there for a minute because like you know she's on a boat with a bunch of sailors and she comes out and like these daisy dukes and this shirt that barely covers uh like she's got under boobs hanging out you know yeah all right they give her clothes to wear it's just hopping around I'm like, okay, yeah. They give her clothes to wear, and she just cuts them to the scampia's little fucking nothing. Walking around talking about, what's your sign? Yeah.

Well, it was definitely, they had some free love and stuff going on. I loved, I love Jeff Bridges in this movie, man. I think he's one of my favorite guys now. Right. But yeah, and she seemed like she was just. stoned out of her mind the whole time that she was doing this movie. But she was hot. It was 1976.

I know, right? But she was hot, and I totally bought their connection. And I liked that. It was really good one, man. I think it may be my favorite. Cool. Of the Kong series so far. Yeah, I really like the way that they modernized the story,

making it a petroleum exploration thing. Right. That was actually, you know, of course, even now, even to this day, obviously, you know, if you made a King Kong movie now, it might have that storyline or something because they're still always looking for new places to drill. But at that time, I think that was during the gas shortages when they were like kind of rationing gas and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the old footage of the mid-70s when they were like, you know, you would see cars like 20 and 30. 30 deep waiting to get gas at the gas station.

Yeah. Even number days and odd number days and all that. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, you know, obviously that had a lot to do with. I really enjoyed that twist. Yeah, Jeff Bridges was great. I mean, what can you say about him? Charles Groden was Charles Groden, an asshole, as always. Yeah, there he was. I had forgotten that Odo from Deep Space Nine was on here, Renee Aboriginoss. I thought he was pretty good. Oh, is that him? Oh, my God. laughing his ass off.

Every fucking thing Charles Groden said, the exact opposite would happen. And like almost immediately. And then, oh, Renee was just over there laughing his ass off at him. I was like, oh man, he's going to shoot that guy. You better watch it. Right.

You're poking the monster. Yeah, I thought it was really, really well done. I like the way that they, I mean, look, it was obviously cheesy. There's no doubt about it. I had forgotten that this movie took place during the bicentennial, and I really liked the way that they kind of,

you know, they kind of included that in it. Like, it was a King Kong bicentennial celebration. You know, Kong brought to you by Petrox. I liked all those aspects of it. So, yeah, I really enjoyed the movie. Plus, they stayed really true to the original, I thought. There were a lot of scenes that were straight out of the 1933. Which was really cool to see.

Yeah. I really enjoyed that. What did you think, Brian? I don't think I enjoyed this. as much as you guys did. Some of the special effects were a little hard to watch. Compared to 1933, they hadn't made much progress, huh? But I also did like the little bit of a story change, you know, looking for the oil.

And, yeah, Jessica Lang, she definitely played a different role than the previous Faye Ray, because this chick was completely in her own world, most of the movie. And, yeah, sexualized to the max, because that weird bathing scene that she had with Kong, do you guys remember that thing, the waterfall? He was blowing her dry and everything. Yeah, that's in ecstasy. Big ass hair dryer.

Yeah, she's just like closing her eyes and blowing her hair in the wind like she's on a fucking photo shoot or some shit. Right. Yeah, that was really weird. Weird. That's a word for it. I really like Jeff Bridges in this one. He had a McCready thing going from the thing, his whole look.

Okay, yeah. Yeah, I bought their relationship a little bit better because you actually got a few scenes here and there, their time on the boat. Yeah, you got a montage. Yeah. They had chemistry, man. And that was like, that was reminding me of some good times, you know? Hey, it was, did you, did you guys catch the Titanic moment there when they were at the front? I thought there for a minute he was going to stand up and say, I'm the king of the world.

I miss that one. But, yeah, with those little things there, kind of just threw me off. This, her portrayal of this, I don't know, so far in these King Kong movies, I'm not like an elite. lady at all. They all look nice, so. Was I the only one at the end that was wondering how the fuck she got down

from the top of the World Trade Center down to the ground when he fell? Yeah, I don't know how, I don't know, this, like I said, this movie kind of. Movie magic. There you go. All right, well, we'll leave it at that.

Brian, what, else were you going to say, man? Not a whole lot, man. Honestly, I don't, I don't really like this movie. Not the best, huh? It was just long. It was so long. Yeah, it was.

Maybe that was it was fun, but it was long. Mm-hmm. It was, yeah, maybe that was, it was a little too long, and I don't know. There was just some weird scenes going on in this movie. Just kind of like, maybe, I kind of felt Jessica Lang and King Kong's chemistry more than Jeff Bridges. and Yeah, it was.

It was kind of, they definitely had some. It was almost a lot of story there for a while. But I will say with that weirdness, I kind of got that, that sympathy for Kong that I didn't get in the first one. Yeah. I can see that,

but I can see where they were trying to pull some sympathy for Kong in the first one in his big, dumb, smiley face. Right. Are you guys ready for ratings? Yeah, let's do that one. I guess some,

at first. I'm going to give this one an eight. I think it's still worth watching. I really enjoyed it. It's definitely long, but if you're looking for the King Kong movie to watch, this is going to be the ones, classic. Yeah, yeah, I'll give it a seven. I didn't like it as much as the original,

but I definitely enjoyed it. I like the over-the-top campiness of it, and I really like the fact that they did flesh out another hour of story. Brian? I give it a four on 10. I didn't like this movie. I hated the special effects. I like Jeff Bridges.

I liked a little bit of a story change to the main plot, but overall, I was completely bored watching this movie and confused with the, with the sexual tension between her and King Kong. I was just kind of weirded out. So, yeah, four out of ten. Wow, brutal. Okay, well, I think on that note, I think it was offensive. I think we're all ready for Skull Island, right?

Yeah. All right, director was Jordan Vote Roberts, also known for the Kings of Summer and not much else, which was a pretty good little independent film, but how he went from the Kings of Summer to, to this, I guess they latched, some producer latched onto the word king and thought

he'd be good directing King Kong, I don't know. Have you got to see the Kings this summer? Yeah, it's a good, it's a good coming of age comedy. I liked it. I think that's just the, that's the trend now, the snatching up these young, up-and-coming producers, or directors and giving them a shot.

Yeah, well, we've talked about that before. writers Dan Gilroy, Max Borenstein, and Derek Conley, all of whom have too many writing credits to name here. Well, it sounds like the writers probably took control over the directing, too. Right. The poster for the IMAX release of Kong Skull Island is an homage to the iconic poster for Apocalypse Now. The outfit worn by John Goodman replicates the outfit worn by Robert Armstrong as Carl Denham and King Kong. Did you notice that, Brian?

Yes, I did. This will be the... I didn't, but it was good. And the final piece of trivia, this will be the first of two movies in 2017 that actor and stuntman Terry Notary will be motion capturing an ape. His second film will be War for the Planet of the Apes,

where he plays the Ape Rocket. He previously motion captured Rocket and Rise and also Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. So who's going to stab at this one first, guys? I think I'll go first. I had a lot of fun with this movie. We didn't actually, this is the first one out of the movies we were reviewing that we didn't have to wait almost an hour to see Kong. Right.

We see it within the first five minutes. Literally. Another little change to the story. I also liked, you know, freshen things up. I thought the beginning was a little long before we actually got into some stuff. but when we got into it, like I said, I had a lot of fun with the action. Yeah.

I thought majority of the cast was good. Yeah, I had a lot of fun. And I kind of liked that, what was her name, Brie Larson? Yeah. That we weren't going to get this kind of dams, on distress. Right.

Love interest of King Kong. I like, like I said, I like the overall change in the, story and I'm interested to see where this franchise is going. Yeah, I think it was a complete reboot, you know, more than anything, because it didn't really, I mean, there were some throwbacks to the original Kong, but very few. And it was really just almost a completely different story, with the exception of them being on Skull Island and how did they get there and these monsters are still there.

I really enjoyed it, man. It was a fun movie to watch through and through. And I'm really excited about this whole Kong Godzilla franchise that they've got going now. I think everybody did great in it. What's that dude? John C. Riley was awesome. He took over the show. Him and Samuel L. Jackson were amazing.

Tom Hiddleston was good. Brie Larson was good. John Goodman, as always, is great. there really weren't a whole lot of people in this movie that irritated me. There was that one young guy, but he was funny most of the time. So I'll take that. Oh, the guy that, spoiler, just as minor. One little amount of spoiler, the guy that he looked way too young to be in the military.

Yeah, the one that looked like he was like a 15-year-old little white dude with the, he's got like a rainbow bandana tied around his head. Yeah, he looked like he was playing war, not in war. Yeah. Yeah, he was funny. And they kind of over did it on him. And then the token funny black dude that they had. Oh, Easy E.E.

Yeah. That was EZE from straight out of Compton. Okay. And, yeah, John Goodman's partner was Dr. Dre. Oh, wow. I didn't even realize that. So, yeah, so EZE was a little bit, was a little bit over the top.

I felt like every joke was about the same that came out of his mouth. And the little white dude kind of irritated me about on the same level. Because both of them had a lot of really funny moments. But it was like, that's a little too much sugar for one sitting, you know? That's a good way to put it. Yeah. But John C. Riley, man. boy that dude is incredible i love him and everything he does he's fun yeah i actually was really surprised

i thought that was my one fear that he was just going to be a little too over-the-top funny yeah but he actually wasn't you know yeah he's great man i loved every line that came out of his at his mouth yeah he was definitely the best actor in the movie in my opinion um you got anything else to to save phil before we because i'm sure we're going to cover a lot more in spoilers, right? I think it was it. I mean, Kong is a lot bigger in this one, which is cool. I like it.

Bad guys were pretty good. They were, you know, lizard, dinosaur light. All right. Well, I mean, I've got, first of all, I will say this, Brian, hopefully you don't think I'm trying to, like, you know, read your mind or anything. But something tells me when we get into spoilers, there may be a stupid person or two.

There might be. Maybe. Maybe. All right. Well, here's what I'll say about this movie. I really liked the battle scenes. There were a lot of really cool monster special effects. There was more than I expected.

And the violence, you know, PG-13, so it didn't get too gory, but the violence that was there, I really enjoyed that. There were some great action sequences. I mean, obviously they spent a ton of money on this movie. There's no doubt. And I don't know how much Budweiser paid them for product placement, but I'm sure it was a pretty penny, considering how many Budweiser bottles popped up

in this movie, but yeah, I think this would have made a really, really great 20-minute Disney World or Universal Studios interactive movie or something like that. If they had only taken the monster battle scenes and pretty much left out this

horrible, horrible story. I did not enjoy this movie at all, guys. I got to tell you. I mean, I thought that, I mean, Bree Larson, what happened to you? My God, you win the Oscar for Best actress and now you're doing this shit? Give me a break. Who in the

fuck has ever seen a photographer that whenever you talk about a fucking monster pops up, she's not taking pictures. I mean, what the hell is she doing? I thought Hiddleston, you want to talk about over the top. That scene early on when they first meet him and he's in the bar and he just takes

those three guys out like that. I thought that was silly looking. I didn't think it made any sense. I thought Samuel L. Jackson was, all right, Samuel L. Jackson, way over the top. Well, yeah, but Samuel Jackson pulls that shit off, man. I'll watch him and anything he's in right now.

Yeah, all right. And there's some things that happen early that I'll talk about later, because I don't want to spoil anything. And I hate to throw a wet blanket on it. You know, it's not, like I said, there's some great special effects. It was a fun, it was a very fun ride

at the movie theater, for sure. Very fun ride. Had this been a 20-minute interactive Disney World thing and I was on vacation and, you know, maybe in 3D or something, that I would have fucking loved it. Probably would have given it a 10, as far as that type of thing goes.

But as far as the storyline, the characters, with the exception of John C. Riley, who I really did like, but just not impressed, guys. Not impressed at all. You guys ready for ratings? Yeah, let's do it.

I will give it a 7.5. I thought the movie was fun. I love the special effects. I love all the interactions with comments. I even love the different creatures you got on the Skull Island was a lot fucking better than that Peter Jackson bullshit that I watched the other day. And heads up to anybody who's going to watch it, do not watch the extended version.

Oh my God, there's an extended version? Three hours and 20 minutes long. Fuck my life. And I have no idea what is the extra scenes in that movie. it just goes on and on. But anyways, I had no problem with anybody in this movie as far as acting. Bree Larson probably maybe could have had something to do in the movie, but, you know, maybe that's the minor thing right there. But overall, I enjoyed it.

I thought it was fun. All right there with you, man. I'm going to give it a seven and a half, too. I think I do kind of wish that Brie Larson had a big. part in it because you need to have that main heroine when you're doing a Kong movie. Everybody else I really liked. It was a little over the top. Tom Hiddleston was.

I can see that. One thing I've learned is if the world ever goes to shit, I need a samurai sword. Because everything that ever happens, that's the weapon that prevails. So next to some of my things to buy. Aside from that, man, I thought it was really good. It was super fun, and I'm looking forward to the whole Godzilla thing and bringing Kong back into the universe. I think it's the best Kong movie they've done in 40 years. That's saying a lot, man.

Saying a lot, but then again, it's probably true. Yeah. All right, well, I guess I'll be the one this time. Brian, I think you scored, didn't you score one of them a four on ten? Yes, I did. All right. Well, this one's mine. This is when I'm going to give a four out of ten, and that's just simply because I just thought that the story,

just the story was so convoluted. I don't know how much of that had to do with having three different writers. I don't know exactly how that dynamic would even work. But I don't know, man. To me, it was overblown. It was over the top. It was their obvious product placement throughout that was just gross looking, I thought. The characters, I didn't like anybody.

too much except for of course John C. Riley. And I mean, I didn't even, I love John Goodman and I did not even fucking like him in this movie, which really disturbed me. And I got to say, I'm sorry, I mean interrupted you, but I like the natives

in this movie because they're out in the middle of like the South Pacific somewhere. Yeah, they made sense. Yeah, and all the other movies, they're like some weird African tribe that randomly ended up on this island in the Pacific, which makes no sense at all.

But in this one, they actually looked like they were, you know, Pacific Islanders and they had all the, like, writing on their face. It looked super cool. I thought that was neat. The setup was good. It was big budget, obviously. Then, actually, so we get through the setup, so let's get into spoilers. Fair enough? Yep.

Yep. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. this is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned All right, who wants to go first here

Can I pose a question since we're in spoilers? Sure. Is it a stupid people question? No. Actually, I'm going to let Lance try to figure out where my stupid people section is in the movie, but my question is Is Kong big enough to fight Godzilla?

Do you guys remember the size of Godzilla? Yeah, and I thought they were were going to, they were supposed to make this, this Kong much bigger, which you could tell he was a little bit bigger. But when Brie Larson was in his hand, you can still kind of see that he wasn't really that much larger than the, it's like in some shots he looked really towering and in certain shots he didn't look that big. Did you guys get that vibe too? Yeah. Not as much in this one as I did in the others. I think in this one he was like way huser. And when Brie Larson was in his hand, I mean, she was like a fucking aunt. in the palm of his hand. I didn't see that. I thought she looked a lot bigger.

She didn't take up the whole palm like he does in the other ones. Yeah, I was just wondering because he Godzilla in the Godzilla movie, if that's, if they're not going to change anything, if that's, you know, the starting point for this whole shared

universe, he was fucking massive compared to King Kong. Yeah, well, I think Godzilla's got to be bigger. I don't know, man. Everything I was hearing was that when this movie came out, they were going to make Kong the exact same size of Godzilla, which, you know, in the classic films, obviously he's like one, you know, maybe one-tenth the size or something.

Is that about right? I've seen it online. You guys might have seen this. There's some kind of a website where someone does monster sizes. Like the, I think they start with the alien and go all the way up to Godzilla or something like that. But like they show how big Cloverfield is, how big Godzilla is, how big, and Kong looks,

looks just like a tiny little runt compared to Godzilla in the classic film universe. Yeah, because in the classic movies, he's just like, not a whole lot bigger than just a giant person.

Yeah, he climbed the buildings and everything, like it was a tree or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man. To me, it seemed like his size kept changing, but maybe that was, you know,

maybe I was just kind of pissed off at that point because I wasn't, you know, enjoying the movie as much I thought I was going to. I guess that could have something to do with it. Yeah, and back to what you were saying about John Goodman, I don't think his character was meant to be liked in this movie. Well, but it's not even like I really disliked him.

It was just like I was indifferent, man. I just didn't think he did that great of a job in this. And I was trying to remember who the guy that was with him was, I guess a fellow scientist or whatever. And so that was Dr. Dre, huh? Yeah, and also he's on the new 24. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

All right. Now I get it. Yeah. Now I get it. All right. I think maybe John Goodman didn't have a big enough role in this movie. Even though he's the one that kind of started it out, he didn't really play a part once they got onto the island. He was just there.

Yeah. I thought he was going to have more of a part there, especially when he was breaking down his whole motive and why he's been doing this for so long. Oh, I know. Yeah. I was waiting for something big to happen. Yeah. And then he gets eaten. Yeah.

That's the end of that story. I was really surprised when he died. But how did you guys fit? That was a pretty rough death, huh? He just looked up and oop. There was a lot of pretty, I was really surprised. There was a lot of gruesome kills in this movie. Yeah, there really were.

I enjoyed all that. That doesn't really wrong. I like that part of the movie. The Giant Spider? Yes, that's what I was just about to say. Oh, that was super cool. Because I didn't understand what was happening. Because I thought he stepped on a booby trap or somebody threw a spear or something.

But then I seen how big it was. And I was like, what is going on? Yeah. And then you look up and it's the spider's leg. And I'm just like, wow. Yeah, I thought it was really neat. Okay. So that scene where I'm kind of jumping way forward,

but that scene where Brie Larson is standing on the edge and Kong comes up to her and she touches his nose. and you get some of that sympathy for Kong, you know? Yes, for sure. I really felt that scene. I really liked it. I felt like I got the feeling of what kind of power that she was touching when she touched Kong. It wasn't just an actor touching a green screen, which is probably what it actually was.

And you know what? It didn't need to be anything more than that scene. you didn't need to like you know they were in love with each other or you know Kong you know they I like how they portrayed Kong he was a protector

yeah I really like that I'm totally rooting for his character I can't wait until he joins the cast of the whole Godzilla thing I was kind of glad when he smashed the shit out of Samuel L. Jackson which pains me to say because I love

Samuel Jackson and we almost got his line too what i don't want to know motherfucking apes on this motherfucking island or what no he was uh he was about to hit the detonator and he's about to say um motherfucker oh yeah but i knew i knew he wasn't going to get it because right it's not rrated and john c riley had already dropped the f bomb early in the movie yeah that was the one that was the one f bomb right that they were allowed But I really enjoyed his John C. Riley's character.

I thought he was funny. I like the scene where he was telling him they were a good bunch of boys. You're a good bunch of boys to die with. You should, you really shouldn't come here. We're all going to die today. That was cool. Yeah. He played a perfect mix of like being on the island for, you know, the 30 plus years or whatever that he'd been there.

So he was kind of crazy. It was great, man. I thought he was perfect. We put a man on the moon. What, did you guys just leave him there? Leave him there? And he was, I like, I like that they brought a little bit of modern day into it, too. Like the very first scene out of the gate was, you know,

Washington's never going to get any more messed up than this. And it had like, you know, the people protesting the Vietnam War out in front of the White House and all that. And then, and then at the end, they show John C. Riley and he comes home. and I guess they show him when he's an old man and the Cubbies finally win because the Cubs are his team that's what he's been talking about the whole movie.

One thing I thought was a complete throwaway was Toby Kevall's whole deal with him being alone. Right. Because it just, I don't know, it just was kind of silly, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Prize when he died.

Yeah, not very many scenes of him out there alone and then he just dies. Oh yeah, AJ. While we were watching the movie, movie, AJ kept saying, oh, no, don't let him die. Don't let him die. Well, especially since they kept talking about Dear Billy, which was, you know, his kid, the Dear Billy. I mean, I guess it was so that you had some sort of feeling for him when he died. So it kind of pulled your heartstrings a little bit. But, but yeah, I was kind of surprised when he went to do.

I was like, wow, that was, I figured he would make it. Yeah, after he got out on his own, he didn't do anything. No, he walked. He sat on a weird stick and got eaten. Yeah, it was like the first movie of Lord of the Rings. He was just walking and walking. And then he shoots like a tree bug or whatever it was. And then he turns around and gets eaten.

And that's the end of that. You know, it's kind of like with the John Goodman. I didn't understand. You know, you kind of built him up. Like John Goodman, you built him up with his wanting to find these creatures that, you know, sank his ship when 30 years ago. And then with Toby Kevill, you built him. built him up with the, you know, like you said, with the Billy thing. Yeah.

And he walked around and didn't do anything and then died. I was just that probably, I probably should have brought that up. But yeah, that was another thing I had a problem with. I get dropping the main characters, you know, because Game of Thrones and Walking Dead have done it so well where they kill off main characters. Right. But, man, they build them up for so long and you really feel for them. And then when you lose them, it's like you're empty. and this you know in a movie you don't really have time to do that it was like when stephen seagal went and uh air force won

you know and it was in his only scene in the whole effing movie and so it was like oh well that sucked it was the only you know it wasn't oh i can't believe he died it was oh that sucks i kind of wish he was in the movie more all right well any uh anything else you guys want to you guys want to about the Stinger at all and what that's going to mean for the future of these movies or what you guys think it's going to mean? Is this going to be another failed attempt like the

Universal Monsters thing you guys think or you think they're going to be able to pull this off? Is the Universal Monsters a failed attempt? Yeah, I was to say, I can't say they are. It hasn't started. That's what I'm saying. I thought they were supposed to start it with that Dracula Unbound or

whatever. No, it's going to be the mummy. All right, that's not what I heard originally, man. I heard that They had originally met for the other Dracula to be the first one. They did, but they changed that. He's not even going to be Dracula. He's not even going to be Dracula in the movie, so. It wasn't a bad movie, but it wasn't awesome.

I don't know. I'm pumped, because the next one we're getting is Godzilla, too. Which, that one, we're getting more monsters than that one. I'm optimistic. I'm really pulling for this to work out because I want to see Kong and Godzilla throwdown. Yeah. I want it to be epic. Right.

Or teamwork versus Mothra. Yeah. Yeah. I like the possibility. I like the whole setup at the end. I like how Dr. Dre and the other chick, the monarch thing, I like that whole thing, where it was like a secret. you know, government.

Oh, yeah. I did. I like that. And I like the whole, I like the storyline behind it where they have this whole hollow earth theory. And there's all these

giant monsters that live underground and they're just... I just thought of something. Is this gonna, is Godzilla 2 going to be set closer to the time period of King Kong? I don't know.

I was trying to figure out. That was another thing that bothered me, guys, was that the Godzilla movie was in modern day. And now they go back to this, and it was like in Vietnam era, and now they're supposed to have a King Kong versus Godzilla. But yet in the Godzilla movie,

the Americans didn't realize he existed when they first learned about him. So, like, what the fuck's going on here? Because if King Kong and Godzilla throw down before Godzilla, the first Godzilla takes place, that would just lead me to believe that Godzilla won. Good point. That's a good point, man. Like I said, I'm optimistic.

Well, because they said that they weren't going to say anything. So it may be a totally different past, you know. Okay, well, I hate to tell you. Yeah, I hate to tell you. Yeah, I hate to say this, guys, but I hope I'm proven wrong. I just don't think that this franchise is going to make a whole lot of sense. But then again, I guess that's part of the fun of these giant monster movies, you know? Just sit back.

I should have done that. Just sat back more, just enjoy. They'll at least get three or four movies in there, I think. Yeah, it's kind of like how... I'm throwing a different movie here that has monsters. A Pacific Rim. Okay. A lot of people...

Yeah, a lot of people... I love that movie. A lot of people didn't like the story, and I'm like, you didn't really need that much of a story. It's giant robots fighting giant monsters. You know, that's pretty much all I needed. Out of that kind of movie, I don't need... The point.

I don't need the movie to win best writing, you know, at the Oscars or anything. so I don't I don't know like I kind of feel like this movie was a step up from Godzilla so I

yeah I thought so this is what I'm hoping I'm hoping as they go along the movies will get better and better and the story will tighten up this was this was I don't even remember the last Godzilla to be honest with you I think this is

heads and tales above well nobody remembers it Nobody remembers it because Godzilla barely showed up in a movie. Right. Yeah. And Brian Cran... That's the one where Brian Cranston was dead, like, in the first 15 minutes or something like that. Yeah, the trailer made you believe he was the main actor, and then he dies.

Spoiler. Oh, we're in spoilers, no. No. And it's been out over a year anyway. I hope that's not a trend. We keep seeing. All right. Are you guys going to...

I mean, Brian, are you going to mention this, or do I need to do the stupid people? I want to see if you pick mine Mine was the fucking helicopter pilots They go through this goddamn storm And then they come up and there's this giant ape over there, okay? So what do they do? They see it, they see a helicopter knocked out of the ground. Oh, let's see how close we can get to the fucking giant ape.

Let's see how much we can buzz around his head And within arm's reach and let's see what happens. Yeah, because they... Was that yours or... Um, you can pick anyone. of the random soldiers that died. But yeah, I'll go with that one because As soon as that first tree hit that helicopter,

everybody should abort admission instantly. Yeah, no shit. Yeah. Not fly closer. And then you got Toby Kevill talking about, is that a monkey? I'm like, it's a giant ape and you're just like, is that a monkey? And I just remembered his accent was horrible in this movie.

Isn't he a British actor? Yeah. Oh, yeah, and yeah, stupid people, the random soldiers that would not keep the helicopters away from the giant ape swinging his arms at you. Yeah, well, there were plenty of them. Especially after he took down that many of them. And then Samuel L. Jackson and his Captain Ahab fucking chasing the white whale thing, which I'm sure is where they got that whole idea. Yeah, and I did that's a good that's a good point man I didn't need any more close up of his face either There was quite a few him and Kong stare at him Sam Jackson's face

His oh I kind of like that I like that I like that they set that up I was like I did Sam Jackson is a badass I did love that that initial scene Yeah with the flames and is separating them and it was staring. I actually love that shot right there. Yeah, me too. But you can also say the surviving soldiers were stupid for following

him on this death mission. Yeah. I believe EZE figured it out. Especially when your soldier is dead already. I believe EZE figured it out halfway through. He's like, we're not going to the rendezvous point. We're going to die fighting this giant ape.

Right. And they still follow him. Yeah. The guy that sounded the dumb and he's the one that figured it out, man. All right, well, yes, have we talked this one up and off, or is there anything we forgot to mention? I think that's pretty much it. All right, so I guess you guys enjoyed this one more than I did, and Philip, you and I enjoyed the 76 a little bit more than Brian did,

but, you know, I mean, overall, I think we had a good week watching King Kong movies, but we got to hear one thing real quick from you, Brian. What the hell was that King Kong? What was it called? King Kong lives? Is that? It's a sequel to the 76 one. Doesn't have Jeff Bridges in it?

Is it the same cast? No, it has, what the fuck is their name? Sarah Connor. Linda Hamilton. Oh, okay, sure. Oh, really? And they revive Kong. They give them a heart transplant and a lot of fucking stupid shit.

What? It was horrible. Where did they get a heart? Never mind. It was a giant King Kong-sized artificial heart that they built. I don't think I want to go down that rabbit hole. Because, you know,

you know, scientists would have a giant King Kong-sized artificial heart laying around. In 1976. All right. Yes. So, on that note, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening

to another episode. I'm sorry, did you have something else to throw in? Oh, no, I was just messing around. I thought we had more King Kong. All right. Jay and Silent Bobline. On that note, we cue the music. As Philip would tell you guys, and actually we all would.

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And we'll be able to get our numbers up and bring you more that way. So next week, it is not going to be Kong week. So my notes are wrong here. I think I didn't change that. But we will be reviewing the Belko experiment. You guys looking forward to that one? Yep, absolutely. I've seen a new trailer.

I think this one's just going to be crazy. And I think I might watch. office space with it because the trailer advertises the movie as a mix of office space and battle royale. Well, speaking of Battle Royale, that's the other movie we're going to be watching next week. Okay.

Well, I'll watch Office Space too, though, because it's awesome. I'm one of my favorites. If you guys want, just for fun, we can cover Office Space next week also. Let's do it. Even if we don't, I know it's going to be in my cool of the week. Yeah. It's awesome.

All right. Well, fair enough. So, Brian, until the horror returns again. Everybody have a lovely evening. Beautiful. All right.