The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #410: King Kong Vs. Godzilla (1962) & Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (2024)

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

This week, we check out some giant monsters both old and new. Cool of the week includes Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey 2, Arkansas, and Immaculate. Trailer is Cuckoo. The podcast spotlight shines on The Stephen Queens podcast. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Mike Batchelor, Kevin Church, Robin Barker, Andre Horvath, and Ray Rose. Thanks for listerning! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest, of language, join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Friends, neighbors, associates, family members. You're all family members here because you've reached the horror returns. I'm Lance. This is Brian. This is Philip. What's going on in your world, guys? How's it going tonight? How's it called with you? Sounds good, man.

You might have scared him with that, all right. It's the wife's birthday weekend, so we started to drink in, and we've been to the Irish pub tonight. I don't know what we're going to do tomorrow and Sunday. Well, I know Sunday we're going to Epcot, and then we're going to have, we're going to have a nice French dinner. That's not a French accent at all. Okay. This is leaning a little towards Borat right there. The French Italians.

Oh, I couldn't be happier though. My wife. My wife. She's a never one of a prostitute in Florida. Where was he from? I've been there. So, what's up, guys? How's your weekend?

Nothing much. Getting some stuff done around the house. At the same time, not been feeling good. That's why we're doing the show. You got the listeners getting the show a little bit. later this week because I had some issues, medical issues, but you're getting that episode. Always. Every week.

We've never missed a week, right? Yeah. Might be a little late, but you still get one. Yeah. Well, it's a fucking podcast. I mean, if we're going to fucking make our living off of our Patreon donations, then we're going to be living under Skid Row. Right, Philip?

Hell no, dude. They make a whole lot more money just panhandling. Oh, that's right. Yeah, they'll be, yeah, they'll be driving their Mercedes past this and waving. Philip, anything going on with baseball, man? You all had some games tonight or what? We have practice tonight, but I'm one of the coaches on my kids' team, and we've won the last two, man. They're looking pretty good. All right. It was bad news bears at first, man. I thought we were going to get destroyed. Even the bad news beers got to go to Japan, right?

Yeah. All right, let's jump into Cool of the Week. Who's going first? I got lists, but I'll make quick. Okay. All right, cool. First is a shutter movie called You'll Never Find Me. I've heard about this one, dude.

I almost watched it the other night. How is it? It's good, but it's definitely a slow burn. The basic premise is you get introduced to his old guy who lives in the trailer. It's like a stormy night. And he looks very sketchy. And then he gets a knock at his door and it's a young girl stranded in the rain needs to use the phone. This sounds like a porno I've watched.

It's not. And then basically, sorry. And then basically through the movie, you're trying to figure out who's the bad one. Because they both kind of, you know, talking about. themselves and you just kind of get sketchy feeling from both of them so you don't know who's who's gonna do something just yeah it's it's but it's slow though but i like the ending and where where the paid off to so so it stuck to landing then yeah nice all right i'm gonna

check you i was trying i was trying to figure out what what the title was but then by the end of the movie you'll you'll understand the title of the movie you'll never find me they'll never find me. Okay. All right. We will check it out. It's on Shutter. Yeah.

Next one. I found this by other means. It's called Lovely Dark and Deep. And it stars... Oh. That definitely sounds like a porn. It stars the one chick from a barbarian. Yes.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I like her. Yeah, the one that was in the Barcelona, Birdbox Barcelona. Yeah. She's been a lot of stuff now. Georgina Campbell. There you go.

She's a park ranger, and she ends up, I think somebody's missing, and she goes deep into the forest, and then she basically runs into, like, some kind of phenomenon where she's in, it kind of seems like she's in a different dimension or something, a different world or different plane of existence. Okay. And it gets real trippy, and then it's, kind of makes her like look at like some of her past mistakes or stuff like that. So another slow burn, but I think it's a recommendation also.

Because I'm really liking, would you say your name with Georgina Campbell? Yeah, and I've got this movie available too, Brian. So I might check it out. I almost watched that one the other night too. Okay, yeah. I liked it. I think you'll dig it. and a third movie

checked out was Frogman I believe this isn't your part of your neck of the woods Lance Florida why does that not surprise me like a Navy SEAL or alligator wrestling I guarantee you they did a

Cryptozoology type stuff Oh Not in Florida Basically the movie starts a family's on vacation. This little kid catches a glimpse with a frog man on a video

camera. And then you flash forward to him and as adult. He tried to become a filmmaker. Didn't take long. See a tea kettle? Giving yourself CPR? Who's your girl?

The picture in the frog man in your head is that? This is a part. right yeah sorry anyways you flash forward to the kid he's a failed filmmaker and all all he's known for is this youtube video which nobody believes they think it's a fake video so he goes on a search for it this was almost my cool of the week that's impressive but there was too much added stuff you ever watched like a found footage movie and there's just a lot of needed Billard like conversation with people and okay but like professional photographers going around with 12 cameras

yeah this is found footage this would have been an amazing entry in a VHS movie ah that makes sense if this was short until like one of those stories in a VHS movie this probably would have been the best story of that movie it's probably one of those Brackheads made it with some reptiles And it's good The effects are good And the mythology they introduce you to is Fun and stuff like that they did that is it's just

The unneeded like conversations with overkill Yeah like why are you again why are you videotaping this conversation with you and your ex-girlfriend? You know it's not really needed and Right It was a lot of that. So if this was a VHS entry, it would be probably one of the best VHS entries in the series. Exactly. Good idea for a short film, maybe not so much a long one. I know you're into the found footage stuff.

I think you kind of dick it. All right. I'll check that one. Where was that one? You can find it. Okay. And I don't think. I think it's under an hour and 20.

Frogman. You know what I can't find? Fucking Godzilla minus one. Really? Oh, it's not. It's not out yet. Like a good copy. Right, right.

It's all foreign language stuff. I just keep coming across the different versions of. Yeah, I read somewhere like there, they take a lot longer to put their stuff out on digital. That makes sense. But McCool the week. I'm blessed that I saw that in the theater. Sorry, Brian.

go ahead yeah my cool of the week lance i hope i don't break you again was winnie the poo blood and honey too oh it's out i'm good i've come to peace with it dude i'm not gonna even laugh but tell us all about it dude i'm sure it's much better than the first one you can see where the money went to

because the first one was made i think for $50,000 this one i think they had $5 million big difference huh and Winnie the Pooh and you get Tigger and Owl in this one, they actually look like hybrid animal humans instead of just people with mask on. All right, quick question. Not to get us off the rails here, but CGI, yes, or practical? Practical, but there is like with Tigger, his tail is CGI and it's not good.

Oh, no. but uh-huh because it's kind of wagging when he's like moving around but like all his makeup is practical I don't know why they could do the tail who knows man

maybe they just like last minute decision right yeah I'm gonna check it out yeah I thought the kills were fun right you get Lance you get you get tities in this one did they have another did they have another head

crush? I'm not going to get into the kills, but I thought the kills were super fun. It was gory. That's where the entire budget of the first movie went. Yeah. Yeah. Already been greenlit for a third one's already been greenlit. Of course.

Yeah. And they showed a little teaser trailer of Bambi the Reckoning, which isn't part of the universe, which looks fucking hilarious. Is it is part of the universe or isn't? It's a part of the Pooniverse. The Pooniverse. The Pooniverse. So, yeah, a pretty good week of stuff I've seen.

Cool. All right. Well, I'll jump in. I watched a couple Vince Vaughn movies. Ah, all right. Went back for a rewatch of Cell Block, Pearl and Cell Block 99. Oh, that's a good one. He was actually serious in that one.

Yeah, he was, well, he's serious in both of these movies. Okay. So, yeah, I watched that one because my wife hadn't seen it. She was like, let's watch this. And I'm like, okay, great. It's not Grey's Anatomy or the Walking Dead for the 15th time. And, yeah, man, it's a cool movie. I mean, it is, yeah.

I don't know about Vince Vaughan and his fight scenes, but they still go. How? I rose like it, because it's kind of a graphic movie. Yeah, so she fell asleep So she, before the end got wild, that's pretty normal Before somebody lost their face Yeah, that was awesome And I love that the practicals are so fucking wild at the end

It's a fantastic movie if you haven't seen it I think that one was on I don't know, Netflix or something And then I watched Arkansas, have you guys seen that? kind of like a heist movie he's got like a big cast

yeah it's got a big cast it's got uh Vince Vaughn is in it uh they're like drug runners has it got like a Hemsworth in it yeah it's got the little Thor yeah Lil Thor Liam is that is that his name

I think we should go with little Thor and then uh the uh like one of the chubby funny guys that's in a bunch of movies Fat Damon? No, like, you know, the little fat guy that's comic relief and all the, like, teen movies, he's been in a bunch of stuff. I don't have no idea what his name is, but I've seen him in a bunch of stuff. Not Pat Nusswald. No, no, no, like a young guy.

Ah. Hmm. I can't remember his name, but he looks so different in this. And he's got like this weird little hipster mustache and this like man fun thing and wearing these little black shirts. And it's like him and Liam Hemsworth doing their like buddy cop routine, except they're like drug runners. And that they really carry most of the movie. Oh, Clark Duke. Clark Duke. What else has he been in? Hot tub time machine. Hot tub time machine.

Oh, God. A bunch of stuff. Okay. Yeah. John Malkovich is in this? Oh, yeah. I guess he is. Yeah.

It's got a pretty big cast. It's very pulp fictiony. Like, they're really going for that angle in this movie. I don't know if they quite pull it off. It's probably a little longer than it needed to be. I think this motherfucker's like two and a half, three hours or something. Oh, what? I don't remember being that long.

It's pretty long. Okay. Well. Maybe it just felt that way. No, because I actually enjoyed it. I thought it was really cool and, like, stylistic. But it just kept going on. Yeah, maybe a little unneeded stuff in there.

The real magic was Liam Hemsworth and the other guy. Oh, the Clark Duke guy. He directed it. Oh, he did. What? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, they were kind of bouncing off each other and playing each other the whole movie. And it really, really worked.

Yeah, I mean, they were definitely shooting for Pulp Fiction. And, you know, maybe missed the bullseye, but still hit the target, you know. Gotcha. So, fun movie. What was this on? Damn, this is pretty cool. I think that one's on Netflix, too. Okay, I've got to check this out.

Yeah, it's a cool movie. Is that it? That's all I got. But, yeah, I don't expect that one to be that good. So Arkansas is the cool of the week. Arkansas is definitely the cool of the week. And you'll never hear that. You'll never hear that on this podcast again.

Hey, my grandma used to live in Hot Springs. That's a cool town. Oh, cool. All right. I've always wanted to go. It's fun. All right, so we're, um, my cool of the week. Um, let me start out with this. Religious horror guys is a slippery slope. Yeah. So if you guys will recall last year, my number one least favorite movie of the year was the devil conspiracy where they were stealing the DNA of Christ.

Oh, yeah. And I really kind of wanted to watch that, but after you be like, shit all over it. I was like, all right, maybe not. Yeah, one on ten. And then I recently saw another religious movie that's similar that we might talk about next week that didn't quite get there, but I don't want to give too much joy yet. And it's just, it's hard to do religious horror, right? I mean, it's, you know, number one, what's that? I don't know, is it? I mean, you got a whole great horror stories that are just kind of built in.

it seems that way, but to me they always get silly for some reason. Like over the top, silly. Like it's either way erring on the side of being pro-religious or way airing on the side of being atheist or something. And you just never find that perfect mixture. But gentlemen, I found that perfect mixture this week with a little movie called Immaculate. With the lovely, lovely Sidney, who I did not know was such a talented actress until I saw the final scene. of this movie, which you can't believe it until you see it.

You guys heard anything about this yet? Immaculate? The final scene? Yeah, I've talked about it. I haven't heard about the final scene, but it sounds pretty fucking awesome. And then we texted about it, Brian. All right, so Brian again, what are your takeaways, man?

What score would you give Immaculate, Brian? Who, based off of her performance and the twist and how they handled it in that ending because they went there for that ending. Right now, I'll probably have to say eight. And I'm at nine right now.

Wow. Yeah, this could be my favorite movie of the year. That one's still theaters, right? Yeah. She's definitely proven that, I mean, I know she's like the It girl right now. She's popping up in everything, but she's with that movie, I think she definitely proved that she's got the acting shops.

Yeah. Yeah, I would agree. And from what I understand, she, like, produced and even co-wrote the movie. Yeah. Which is very shocking. But, you know what? It's a great movie, Philip. You know, if you want to get freaked out on religious movies and how, if you needed any more proof of how evil the Catholic Church is,

It's like, I thought it was just going to be a straight-ahead drama. And then, well, first I thought, come on. Look, at first I thought, you know, that Satan was going to have a prominent role in the movie, and that doesn't happen. And then I thought, okay, well, then it's going to go the other direction. And it's just going to be a drama. And the reason she's pregnant is because she was raped by a priest. That's not the truth either.

The, what happens in the movie, Brian, wouldn't you say it's somewhere in the middle? Yeah. It's amazing, Philip. It's fucking amazing, dude. I've got to check it out. I'm excited, dude. I like religious movies in general, but religious... I know you do.

Religious horror is awesome. And I'm hearing great things about the first omen. Really? Yeah. I was worried about that one. We'll talk next week. So, moving off of the week, Brian. Any news?

A couple things. Scott Derrickson is going to, to direct a new adaptation of the Night of the Hunter? Ah, that's a good one, man. I remember watching that. And my dad told me, quit watching that. Because didn't he like, he was like a sniper, right? He would, like, shoot people from far away.

I think so. Yeah, that was, it was on HBO, Philip, when I was a kid growing up, and my dad walked into the room, and he saw like a sniper popping people off from far away. And he's like, what are you watching? Turn that off. it's a good movie from from 1955

is that right? Yeah Oh okay Yeah I don't know if it's going to be a remake of the movie or closer to the I believe it was a book

Okay I could see that So All right Yeah This one we got some Feedback on I'll probably

speak on it a little bit. Don Mancini is in early stages of working on a new Chucky movie. All right. Well, the TV show going. Why not? Which, we had some ridiculous feedback from somebody. I won't even say their name because

it was just sometimes I think, I appreciate all the feedback we get, but some of it is just kind of wild talking that. That's the internet, bro. I don't get that, man. Because basically it was Don Mancini needs to stop doing this.

He hasn't been successful yet with Chuckie. I wish I was half as successful as he is. I haven't heard anybody say anything bad about the TV series. He neither. It's ridiculous to do a new movie because he'll never get people back like, what's their name? Tiffany. For the movie?

okay you're talking about the actress that plays Tiffany the professional poker player that we're desperately trying to think of her name I know she plays poker professionally yeah Jennifer Tilly he'll never be able to get yeah he'll never be able to get actresses and actors like that back and then I really wanted to comment he's on the TV show BTW I say they're like

they've got a pretty good group of people over there that seem to actually enjoy each other's company yeah it was just weird that you would say she would never do a Chucky movie but she's currently been doing like three seasons of a Chucky TV series

well and they were all having they were all having fun at Frightmare weren't they feel it yeah that was I thought it was pretty cool they were all hanging out I don't know but yeah that's probably somebody who hasn't watched the TV show at all and and is just remembering Chuckie from back in the day.

Oh, another one. There we go. Well, I got in the conversation with somebody I posted a throwback pick of Robert England on the set of West Craven's New Nightmare, and he tried to tell me I posted a false pick because Robert England was never in West Craven's New Nightmare. And I was like, boy, he played Freddie Krueger, and he played him. himself in the movie. Was he thinking of

Jackie Earl Haley or what? No, he said, no, he said Robert England refused to do the movie because he didn't, he didn't like the story West Craven came up with. And I was like, are you writing fan fiction? Sure. I really think right now that there's

different realities that are all clashing together. Oh, it's the multiple universe theory. It's street theory. You know what? I think you're right, Phil, because you know how you can read someone's comments, and you can tell how confident they are and what they just said? Yeah. And like, just some stuff that never happened.

So kind of like Barronstein Bears versus Bernstein Bears type deal, or what? Yeah, like that. Or the Statue of Liberty being on Ellis Island and stuff? I think all that's happening. Because they found the Higgs boson particle in 2012, which is when the world was supposed to end, right? Oh, wow. All right.

I think we need to get Nildegress Tyson on next week to be our guest. I'm telling you. I think he's free. Or the universe theories. Or Brian Green. All right. There's been so many multiverse movies lately. They're trying to clue us in.

That's right. Yeah. They're trying to clue us in. Yeah. And finally, I knew this one was coming. The Wolfman from Lee Wannell gets pushed to January 17th.

Of course. It was supposed to be one of our big October movies. Yeah, that's all right. We'll survive. To January? Yeah, it's only a few months. I don't have a lot of hope in this movie. I actually, I think Hollywood is missing out

on changing the perception of Dump Month. That's true. Because I thought it was going to change when the first Deadpool, I think, dropped in, like, February. Yeah. Well, why not put it out against something that's, you know, that's not going to be a big hit? You'll make more money, right? Because I think it's fair to say. Yeah.

We all enjoyed Lee Wendell's version of The Invisible Man. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, we did. But, hey, guys, I. I went to the movies today and I saw the new Deadpool and Wolverine trailer. Have you all seen yet? The new one?

Yeah, the two and a half minute long one? No. That's fucking awesome. Do they show Wolverine? Sort of. I'll leave it at that. They show his shadow, his outline. Oh, okay, I've seen that one. Okay, you've seen that one. I don't want to see him

until the movie. Yeah. Well, and I've heard that, like, the production companies and stuff, we're trying to get Ryan Reynolds to do all kinds of things. And he's like, no, we're not doing this shit. This is the way the movie's going to go. Well, good. Yeah.

Because it looks like it's going to be gorgeous. Yeah. Fucking phenomenal. I mean, after all, he's Marvel. He's Marvel Jesus, right? Yeah. Stop. Stop.

What was it? What was that goddamn movie? Miss Marvel? Black Widow, whatever the fuck it was? I don't know. The last one that was terrible. Madam Webb? Madam Webb.

Superstar. Madam Webb, yeah. It's like the producers want to get their grubby little hands. Oh, I know. Madam Webb it all up. And he's like, no. So I'm proud of him, man. I'm excited for this movie.

Fuck, we brought up Madam Webb again. All right. Well, it's going to be our staple go-to terrible movie. I've never even seen it. It used to be Black Christmas. I think. Oh. I know.

It'll never I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'd rather watch Black Christmas over Madam Webb. Stop it. At least they tried to do something in Black Christmas. They did not try. Trash.

Hey, I give it to him. That opening sequence was a complete different movie in Black Christmas than the rest of it. I wish I could remember it. The chick getting stalked? I was trying to vaguely

Sure That's the movies After that 10 minute Opening I thought that was the movie we were getting Yeah But we're talking about Black Christmas too much So And that's the news

All right Trailer Pong Oh Brian going to bring us the big The small and the very very weird It is the trailer park old brother where Artel

I'm going to sit the can around hill we're trying to get through this and quick tonight right so all right our one and only trailer is a new horror

mystery titled Kuku a 17 year old girl is forced to move with her family to a resort where things are not what they seem

and this stars Hunter Schaefer Dan Stevens, Jessica Henwick and others and this is written and directed by Tillman Singer Phil will start with you

I have no idea what the fuck this movie is about man where is Dan Stevens from the UK is he okay he does a different weird accent in every fucking movie but I kind of love it right

yeah I don't know what's happening it almost looks like a zombie movie but not quite I don't get it but it looks pretty interesting I'm definitely down to watch this one yeah I'm intrigued by not only the town they're in because it seems to be like the town's involved yeah but then I'm confused about Dan Stevens' character?

Is he evil or is he trying to help or what's the deal? That's the point, right? Yeah. They want to keep you in mystery. Yeah, if they're throwing in the mystery tag in there then they're doing a good job. And then I'm intrigued them by, because I like that

shot of her riding home and then she looks down and sees the shadow of the hand reaching out and then she looks behind her. Because caught a quick glimpse of what the lady look like and she looks kind of creepy Oh yeah for sure

It's like it follows Needs a zombie movie Yeah So yeah I'm in Lance Yeah I'm in too it looks it looks pretty cool man It's got that IFC feel to it you know Yeah

This is a neon I do have to ask one question When did Dan Stevens become the new fucking horror icon Because he's in fucking everything I love to tell The Abigail trailer, the King Kong movie.

It's like, this dude's in everything. I mean, he's great. Don't get me wrong. But like you said, Philip, he's very versatile, right? He can do, he can be an Australian, and then he can be, he can be from the UK, and then he can be a stupid-ass movie did on Netflix. He's done a lot. Will Ferrell.

The singing competition movie. Oh. No. You're talking about Euro, Eurotrack. Yeah. Wasn't me like the bad singer or whatever, the evil guy? Eurovision is rated higher on Will Ferrell movies than Step Brothers, which is a trap. Step brothers is a classic.

Boats and Hoes, man. The Sondah kept singing in Eurovision, yeah, yeah, ding-don. It's still a fun movie. Don't get me wrong. But it's really stupid. Yeah, true, true. All right, Kuku is coming to theaters. I think the date got changed.

August 9th. Okay. I am sure we will be there, Brian. Yeah. I don't tell anything in the theater. What was that? I said, I wonder if it'll pull anything in the theater. I mean, that's summertime.

Immaculate, that was a neon release. They're kind of hot right now. And I think the movie they had before that was Infinity Pool. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, New Zealand's got some good shit. They're right there with like IFC midnight and 824. 824, sure, sure.

Speaking of A24, next episode, we'll be reviewing the Maxine trailer because that will be dropping next week, finally. Okay. Okay, cool. We're all in. All right. We can see where... Don't even need to see it. We know we're all in.

Maybe we can see where Mia Gauth was kicking the extra, for real. Yes. Do you guys hear about that? No. Tell us. She's being... I guess that's her excuse. I guess that's her excuse.

She was staying in character, but I guess she was physically abusing one of the extras and kicking them. No. Come on. Did a... Did the usual... Do you know who I am? type thing and her excuse was she was in her Maxine character. That's never good.

How bad can it hurt? She's not very big. Yeah, just kick her back. All right, on to listener feedback. This week, we shine the podcast spotlight on the Stephen Queens podcast. Tiring of... Not to be confused with Dan Stevens. Yeah. Tiring of the endless search for a decent horror movie and fed up with the gratuitous violence against women in many horror films,

three women embark on the journey to find female approved horror movies. Make sure they got their stamp on it. Matt Wood says there's definitely some Gialo that I need to see and expand my knowledge of the genre. As Brian Stitcher said, my knowledge is a bit thin on the ground. with the minimal amount of films that I've seen. Yeah. Regarding Ghostbusters Afterlife, Mike Batchelor said, saw it tonight really freaking good.

That's a lot better than Frozen Empire. Oh, okay, yeah, afterlife. Okay, that was the other one. Yeah, that was good. The one where Finn Wolfheart had something to do in that movie. I thought he was talking about Frozen Empire. I was like, what? Regarding Jason goes to hell, Kevin Church says it started out so good, too.

Bummer. Regarding Ghostbusters 2, Robin Barker says Ernie Hudson's name left off the poster altogether, and he's a ghostbuster. Man, he really got the short end of the stick in this movie. He's not even involved in the fighting Scolari brothers in the courthouse. Oh, he's not, is he? No, he's just missing for chunks of the movie. I forgot about that. Regarding return of the living dead,

Andre Harbeth says, great movie. Still have it on the DVD. Keep your physical media. There it is. When the internet goes out. Inevitably. Yeah.

Late night. What are you going to play it with when the electrical grid goes down? Charge up your generator. Generator. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Late night with the devil. made 2.8 million over the weekend to give it I.

Damn. Films biggest opening weekend ever. That's one I really want to see, too. You haven't seen it yet? No. I think on Sunday that weekend it made like $66,000. It was like some weird number. That's bizarre.

That's creepy. Ray Rose says, so glad to hear this. We went to, we went opening evening and had a great time supporting fresh new horror. and new fucking ideas and movies that are not remakes or reboots or secrets or you know original it's not a money grab i like it uh that's it for listener feedback um our show intro and all of our logos come from steve carleton from the geeks uh be on the lookout for some more great stuff from steve and our original skull artwork comes from not sulani check her out on instagram and if you'd like to help us out please uh consider becoming a patreon patron we'll let you pick you

the movies for a future show at any amount and for $5 and more a month also pick a commentary for a future bonus show all right real quick the geeks have a new show on their YouTube channel called time travel video

I heard about this hosted by Steve and each episode they time travel to a year and pick a movie from that year and month I think okay well and their first two episodes are I think 2009

is a Robocop remake and then the newest episode is Tank Girl. Tank Girl, classic. Some good stuff. All right. On to featured attractions. This week, we check out

some Kaiju action with a brand new Godzilla X-Kong. How do you say this fucking movie's name? I've just been saying, Godzilla and Kong. Okay, that'll work. I didn't know if it was Godzilla Times Kong or Godzilla X-Kong or Godzilla-X-Boyfriend of Kong

or... I don't know. And as well as the 1962 classic Godzilla versus... Classic. King Kong versus Godzilla. So we'll start out with the 1962 King Kong versus Godzilla. A UN reporter broadcast or report on the appearances

of a prehistoric monster that emerges from hibernation while a pharmaceutical company seeks publicity with a monster of their own. Big pharma. I tell you. Director is Ishiro Honda, also known for 1954's Godzilla and Ran.

I don't know what ran is. Writer is Shinichi Sekizawa, also known for Invasion of Astro Monster and Samurai Pirate. That sounds awesome. That sounds great. In the fight scene when King Kong throws Godzilla over his shoulder, suit actor, Shoychi heroes.

didn't throw an empty suit, but actually threw it with Haru Nakajima. Still inside. Easy for you to say. I know. Still inside, as this was Heroes' way of proving that he was the stronger of the two. They were really having a cage match. I guess. The unedited original Japanese version of the film remains the highest attended Godzilla film in Japan.

It is one of the most attended films of all time at the Japanese box. office, as well as the most successful live-action science fantasy film. Science fantasy, okay. And with admission numbers surpassing Hollywood blockbusters such as Star Wars and

Avatar. What? What? Wow. To this day, it remains as the 13th most attended film of all time in Japan. The heavily re-edited U.S. version that inserted new actors and deleted several scenes from the original was just as much of a

success at the U.S. box office as well. This film features the Davy Crockett, a portable missile-launched nuclear weapon developed by the United States. At the time, the weapon was still classified. Hmm.

How'd they get away with that? Giving us little clues through movies. Interesting. Okay. Strange. Lance, what did you think about King Kong versus Godzilla? As we used to say when I was in grade school.

King Kong played ping pong with his ding-dong. You guys ever heard that one? No. I don't like I missed that one. All right, I fucking love this movie. This was fun. This was fucking fun.

This was what I remember as a kid watching these movies where you've got the big rubber suits. But what I just, I guess I got a super good copy of it that I happened to be able to see. I don't know if it was like some kind of a criterion copy or something, but the photography was just amazing. And the models

were just so gorgeous, the way that they put so much time and effort into building these little toy models. And they don't, you know, the two things you guys don't, you know, you guys both know I don't like to hear is CGI and fire in the same sentence. And there was none of that here. So it was just, it was gorgeous. It was wonderfully filmed. It was incredibly silly. They had some great characters like that one the one Japanese character with the glasses it was like oh go god I make it this it'd be perfect you know and then it's like halfway through the movie they're like okay well we had one game plan to get rid of Godzilla and now we've decided we're gonna let's let's just fucking blow king Kong away I know we've gotten him halfway here across the ocean

let's go ahead and put all all the nuclear bombs that are all the dynamite you know let's Let's get King Kong into the ocean and get rid of him because he's probably more of a threat. It's like they couldn't make up their mind what they wanted to do. So that was fun. And then, I mean, you got a great, you got some great fight sequences at the end. And it's just, there's a lot going for this movie. I really enjoyed it a lot. This is like, this is my King Kong.

This is my Godzilla. I'm an old man. Get off my lawn. Fuck you. I don't like the CGI bullshit. I enjoyed it. Had fun. All right.

Brian, what did you think? Yeah, this is very nostalgic for me because when I was a kid, there was a TV channel every weekend. It would just play nothing but these movies. And so I'm very nostalgic. I respect what they did with the suits and the models and stuff like that and the effects that they, you know, for the time it was what they did was amazing. But I have to be honest, rewatching this one, it was. too much talking talking talking talking yeah i just want to see monsters fight each other it got to the point i'm not going to lie i was looking forward more to watching the new movie uh-oh than finishing

this one because it just it would it would cut to some kaiju action right and then we'd go back to people talking and trying to be scientific and do news reports and I'm just like it just started taking me out and it and it was only like an hour and 20 minutes so eeks yeah I mean maybe maybe I'm just simple and I just like giant monsters just beating the shit out of each other and destroying shit but I don't know it just it just kind of took me out but it still is the classic movie like I said very nostalgic it just took me back to that time of being a little kid you know you remember the Joe Bob Briggs monster monster vision and stuff like back back to those days I forgot it was like a TV station here

that it was on the weekends like after like midnight it would just play like Godzilla and King Kong movies that's amazing dude that's awesome how many stoners were tuned into that you think they know I watched Alaska the little movies when I was a kid But it Even though I did get bored at times It was a great nostalgic trip for me So yeah For the most part it was a good watch

Rewatch Yeah Brian I agree with everything you just said Right now And that's long been the criticism Of the King Kong Godzilla movies Is like all right We're not here to see

what the people are doing. I don't care if Matthew Broderick is in it. Right, right. Or if it's at Madison Square Garden or whatever. Yeah. Like, I want to see some monsters. That's why we're here. And so, yeah, I mean, there was some slow, I actually still have a real nostalgia

for like the 30s King Kong movie, you know? Sure. Why not, right? Good shit. But, yeah, I've loved all the Godzilla movies, forever and so this one is is definitely a classic and it's fun to watch the fight scenes are weird but

how did you like all the natives on the island that were in like blackface oh yeah it was like Japanese blackface different time different place right well I mean obviously they weren't doing it to be offensive

but no it was just a filming technique sure yeah which you know these days. Yeah. Godzilla's on canceled. The movie that's been out

this long would all of a sudden just someone would discover and be like can you believe what they did? Yeah, damn it. That would ruin everything for everybody, wouldn't it? Can you believe what they did in the 60s? It's mud.

They got to cover themselves up for all the bugs. You never seen naked and afraid? Is that what it is? All right. Philip explained it all. us. But yeah, I enjoyed myself. Well, I guess that was, anybody got out, any final thoughts on this one before we go to stores?

No, it's simple, man. Simple Simon. It is. Good old classic. Lance, what's your score? Seven and a half. Fun. Yeah. And I loved, I loved the sequence with the girl in the train that he was, just the same thing you get from the newer movies, right?

that's like a motif that goes on forever, right? Like Godzilla-Mine. Well, Godzilla minus one, they had a very similar scene where somebody was riding on the elevated train, and, you know, all of a sudden, Godzilla breaks the train in half, and people are falling out of it. So a lot of great destruction, a lot of beautiful toy models here and stuff like that. It's just really well-founded.

Yeah, people are super into making the movie. If you think about, like, how big those, like, little models cities were. I mean, some of those buildings are as tall as the person. Right. This would have been a fun movie to be on the set. Am I right? Yeah. Well, and for the time. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I think I'm close right there with Lance. I'm going to give it a seven. Yeah, I think seven sounds fair. I mean, it's definitely got a nostalgia factor because I don't think it's as fun to watch now as it was. Well, smoke a bowl and then... Yeah, that's true.

Still a classic. All right. Let's move on to the new one, Godzilla and Kong or X-Kong, or Ox Kong, whatever. The new empire. What else were we wrong about? This world has more secrets than we could possibly imagine. Miracles is that.

That's not Kong. What could have done this? Godzilla. Ex-wife of Kong. Two ancient Titans, Godzilla and Kong, clash in an epic battle as humans unravel their intertwined origins and connection to Skull Island's mysteries. Is that what happened?

I guess so. I'm sorry, go ahead. Director is Adam Wingard, also known for The Guest and your next. Two great movies, by the way. Yeah. When he did, he did the last one too, right? Godzilla versus Kong? Yeah, he did. Writers are Terry Rossio, Simon Barrett, and Jeremy Slater. Adam Wingard said the Scar King almost represents an upscale version of the worst parts of humanity, just as Kong represents some of the best parts of humanity. Before release, Takashi Yamazaki, the writer and director of the acclaimed Godzilla minus 1, did some PR for the film by watching it early and promoted it on social media, stating, I was able to watch the big movie earlier. It was super fun and gorgeous. Be sure to watch it on the big screen. Damn, that's pretty classy. They did that, you know?

Yes, well. Considering his maybe is a lot better. Spoiler alert, his maybe is a lot better. Well, yeah. All right. Lance, what do you think about this one? This was trash, man. As soon as Dan Stevens is coming in a helicopter, and this isn't a spoiler alert, because this isn't the first 10 minutes,

but he's coming down on his rope, and he's pulling God's, or he's pulling King Kong's tooth out. He's not King Kong. They never refer to him as King Kong. Okay. They haven't. as the ape, the grape ape, right?

Well, they call him Kong, right? Yeah, but they never call him King Kong. Okay. Okay. Well, pardon me, Brian. Grape ape, okay? I was trying to... Is that better?

Trying to keep everything. That was a fucking great cartoon. I was on this back. All right. I just, as soon as that happened, I was almost kind of out of it. I wish I hadn't been. Because there was a lot of great, there was a lot of great fight scenes in this movie. You got to admit.

So him getting his... his tooth extracted took you out of the entire movie. Yeah, yeah, it kind of did. That was the least fucking wild thing they did. Well, Brian, let me... Brian, let me put it to you out of the movie. Let me put it to you this way, Brian. When that happened, I was like, so this

is the movie we're getting. Yes. Okay. And then that line, everybody hates a dentist. Okay. But Dan Stevens is a great actor. Just This role, I thought he was kind of over the top. Was he Australian in this one, y'all think?

He kind of sounded that way, right? I thought he was Ace Ventura in this. Okay, Ace Ventura. He's like a New Zealand Ace Ventura. Okay, so the good. The good is that there were some really good fight scenes, right? Great, great action. It, like, never let up.

There wasn't a whole lot of talkie-talkie, as you would say, Brian, and it wasn't like focused on the human drama. So this was like what it was supposed to be. But I just couldn't get over the bad CGI. Sorry, guys. Like there was a character that shows up later that was like a younger version of Kong. And, oh man, it just felt like watching a cartoon to me. And maybe it's just because I'm old.

It was very cartoony. But like the second they ended up in Middle Earth and they're like showing Kong and they pan way out, and I was like, oh, this is the entire movie, CG. We're watching Toy Story. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. I mean, I tried to enjoy it. I wanted to enjoy it.

I just, the CGI just kept taking me out. And I hate to say that. And that tooth, too. Oh, that tooth was horrible, dude. It was like the rope was like four bits of graphics, and the tooth was like 16 bits of graphics, and they were, like, trying to be on the same screen together. you're exaggerating now.

And then it's fucking Super Mario showed up and then Pac-Man ate him. All right, move along, guys. I want to hear what y'all think. Because I know y'all both loved it because there was a lot of great fight sequences. So let's hear how fucking awesome this movie was. I'm curious, Brian.

What did you think? Well, I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it either. I thought you'd love it, man. I'm shocked. It pretty much is what I thought it was going to be. Okay. Very CGI heavy. The CGI was a little wonky at times.

I don't know about stuff being distorted as it was moving. I don't know what you were on when you were watching it. Okay, hold on. I will say this. This is one thing I really noticed. Was this movie filmed like with 3D cameras? I don't know. Oh, I know it.

There was definitely a 3D version of it that they were showing. I really wish I'd seen it in 3D, because for whatever reason, the film that I watched, and it was in a decent, you know, it was in the theater. It wasn't like I was watching

a pirated copy at home. The sides were all, like, blurry, the sides of the screen. And I'm like, was this originally filmed in 3D? And that's why it's not... Well, I don't know. Maybe I've just got a bad copy.

You'd know it if you watched it in 3D. Like, there's, like, red outlines of... Okay. It looks like... Yeah, there was a lot of shots where I can see. if this was released in film or released in 3d there was a lot of shots where it looked like it was filmed for you know that 3d action feel a lot of a lot of spin around yeah like where he's doing this

yeah yeah which i didn't think about i thought that that that would have been cool i should have done i should have not right um compared to our first movie we talked about uh the the the human element wasn't didn't really bother me um okay dan stevens kind of bothered me because it really felt like over the top right it felt like you had brian tyree henry they brought him back the yeah he's always been the comedic element of the movie and it kind of felt like him and dan stevens were fighting for the comedic element of the movie at times i can see now that yeah now that you mention it dude i didn't think about it at the time but They were kind of stepping over each other, weren't they?

I like the way that Dan Stevens played this role. I mean, he's in a movie that's not real human heavy, and he's over the top and just sort of, I guess, carved himself out a little, everything he does is ridiculous in the movie. Sure. But I see Brian's point where they were kind of like stepping on each other, right? Like, I'm the comedian. No, I'm the comedian of the movie.

Yeah, I'm like, why is there too comedic? characters. I get it. In the same group. I mean, you could have maybe, if you're going to have two comedic characters, maybe split them up. Yeah. Or have them play off of each other. Yeah, which I don't think they really did that well at the times they were. I thought a lot of the action was cool.

There was a lot of good ideas in this movie. I like the setting of, was it, Hollow Earth? Mothra looked fucking amazing. I know. When we get to Mothra, I, I, have a serious question. Okay, but we're going to save for spoilers? Yeah, because it has to do with the previous movie, but...

Did I give anything away by saying Mothra? Well, I didn't even know Mothra was in the movie until... Oh, sorry, sorry, folks. Well, I guess I didn't either, but I mean, there's some other Titans in the movie, too. Yeah, which... True. I thought they were pretty cool, you know, just throwing some random, like, kaijuves in here. to get fucked up by Kong and Godzilla.

I thought Godzilla was very minimal through most of the movie. Yeah, true. Which I'm completely fine because I'm team Kong, because I think Kong is fucking badass, and he's obviously been living a rough life since the last movie because he is fucking great as hell. Well, and he's... It's probably a whole lot easier to show emotion

and communications in a gorilla than it is. Versus a lizard. Unless you're Alex Jones, right? I thought the introduction of the villain scar was a little lackluster

because they kind of built him up a little bit and I don't know. I thought he was... There's some stuff, but I have to say yeah, I was going to say, but there's some human elements that are just super cheesy. man like oh really come on i mean when they introduced him like fucking the fucking navid people or whatever from fucking avatar and jesus christ really sorry i vd people i don't know yeah y'all go ahead

i'm sorry they were blue what's going on yeah it should have it could have been i'll be quiet i don't want to spoil anything did you hate this movie that much i didn't hate it Well, you'll find it in. Yeah, I guess I kind of hated it. Well, I can't remember. What did you think of the last one that Godzilla versus Quentin? Me? He's on an episode of the Action Returns where he loved it.

Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Okay. So. There you go. It's just more of that, really. Was it? Okay.

And I think, like I said, like I said, the human element is very minimal. like, what's her name? Rebecca Hall, she's just here to explain things throughout the movie. That's her only purpose. That's what all of the humans are in this movie for is to, like, progress plot points. Yeah, but Rebecca Hall, she's like, the many of you say something out loud is, why is that happening? Cut to Rebecca Hall, and she's explaining. Yeah.

Right on time. Like a Christopher Nolan movie, Brian. There's a scene Explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain, explain. There's a scene where like these military guys are explaining what Godzilla is doing as he's doing it, which makes no sense. But overall, I don't, I'm not going to say it's trash movie. It's exactly what I thought it was going to be. I thought the action scenes were cool.

Like I said, I'm a con guy. I thought he was badass. throughout the movie and okay again I think it just kind of falls in line with the series of movies we've been watching the past few weeks I think it's a good family act pack yeah popcorn turn your mind off movie that is exactly what this is for sure all right I I got a question Brian yeah not to interrupt um okay so you've watched uh Monarch on um Apple TV um How much does that tie in? Like, if you watch that, would that add anything to this story?

No. Well, they give little narrations and explanations for it just to bring you back into the world. Yeah. It's like, I don't even remember what happened in the last one. And then they started talking about Monarch, and I'm like... And then Rebecca Hawkins explains it. Okay. Yeah.

All right, I heard enough. I'm ready for my score now. I'm ready for my... Phil's got a... Yeah. Oh, sorry. Phil. Okay. So I came into this movie expecting to hate it.

And I didn't at all. I thought I had a really fucking good time. Fucking A, baby. Yes. 10 out of 10. You have to like, you kind of do have to turn your brain off and something like this. It is a cartoon. You know, that's kind of what you're watching. I thought the scene, well, I guess we'll get into it. to it in spoilers, but they did some heavy emoting and communication with Kong that was completely

nonverbal and they did it really well. And the people thing was kind of down to a minimum. And the people in general were only there for narration and comic relief. And I

didn't have a problem with that. I actually really liked Dan Stevens in this movie. I thought like, you know, he knew, it's not like he was going to fucking win an Oscar for this. So he was like, well, I'm just going to go fucking bad shit crazy. Right, yeah. That makes sense.

Have fun. I like him. And the other dude, I can't remember his name. But yeah, he's that. Brian, Tyree Henry. Yeah, Tyree Henry. Paperboy. Paper boy. Yeah, he's, he's, he was really funny. I like him and everything. He chews up scenes.

See, you probably could have maybe minimalized his character. Yeah, but he's got so much presence, dude. He really didn't need to be there. Well, that was the whole, when they started pulling a group together to go to Middle Earth. And I was like, this is the group of people that you have going to this super fucking dangerous place. If they did it, they should have brought us, man. Yeah, there you go.

And, but, but it was like, every time one of those scenes happened where I was like, all right, this is the group of people they're taking, you know what, fuck it. All right, let's go. Why not? And that's kind of the way the movie went. I thought the, I actually really liked Godzilla in this movie, even though it was, it was kind of to a minimum. But this, this, Kong was definitely the star. I liked the scar aspect and the extra little Kong people. And I thought that they were really, really well done, even a little mini Kong, which seemed a little cheap.

Like a baby Yoda kind of a move. It didn't look like he fit in. Like he was a different... Well, he was like an orangutan or something almost. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, no, I... I actually had a really good time with it.

If you just shut your brain off and watch it, I mean, stuff happens the whole time. They don't, like, get bogged down in the people stuff, you know? Like, there's not a whole lot of dead moments. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Start moving. It goes downhill from there. And if you ever get confused at any point in the movie, just look to Rebecca Hall.

There you go. They'll explain it for you. That was their purpose in the movie. Maybe they'll have one one day with no people in it. We'll see. Oh, that's the... Maybe the next one. I think they could have got away with that with the Kong stuff.

Yeah, they're almost there, right? They're getting real close to that. I mean, it would be a complete cartoon, but... That's okay. Yeah, but I really agree with what you're saying, just the way they have Kong, his emotions with his face and stuff. Like, I can watch a Kong movie with no people. in it definitely and I think it will definitely work.

Yeah. All right. Scores. Lance, what do you think? Well, this movie is a two on ten. And this, yeah, this one cemented itself in my bottom ten for the year, no matter what, comes out next. So this is... I do this every year.

I do this every year. Yeah. This will not be in your bottom ten by the end of the year. Stop it, Brian. Stop it. There's no fucking way. There's no fucking way. This won't be.

This was trash. Not unless you set it in stone in your heart of hearts that this will be in there, I think this will be... I mean... If it makes your top ten, it will be number ten. Okay, it's a long year and there's a lot of show or movies to come, Brian. Fair enough. I'd rather watch this as that fucking swimming pool movie.

There's a lot of screen box movies to come. Well, you forget, Phil. That swimming pool movies in his top... at the moment it actually is so moving on all right brian go ahead tell me why i'm wrong you're not wrong i respect i respect your answer but i just i just came in having fun with it i knew what it was going to be um i i appreciate the minimal people story angles that they're because that was like i don't know i forgot which one it was i think it was godzilla king of monsters with the beer for mega and billy bobby brown and they had the whole family angles yeah oh yeah

not getting along i was like i don't give a fuck right yeah we don't need big stars in these fucking movies the big stars are godzilla and con right no shit dude that that was the one with brian cranston right brian no that was he was in the original the first godzilla movie of this universe where they fooled us to think brian cransston was the lead in the movie. Yes. It turned out to be kickass was the...

They did an L.L. Cool J on him or something, right? Yeah. All right. But overall, I had fun. Is it the best movie? No. Is it going to make my top 10?

No. But if you just go in, just get you a drink, get you some popcorn. Just enjoy the fight scenes and Team Kong all the way. And if the drink that you bring in happens to be purple, all the better.

Hey, do what you do. I'm going to go, so what was your score, Brian? Seven. Seven, okay. Damn. You know, I think I'm going to give it an eight, man. I had a really good time with this movie. I figured you might.

Yeah, I thought it was a lot of fun. It was stupid action summer blockbuster popcorn. I get it, dude. I respect it, man. I respect it. I wish I'd got the same joy. We'll get into some of the stupid plot devices. Yeah, we don't need to put this one under a microscope, do we? Yeah. It's one of those words like, you know what?

Right. Go with it. Go with it. Versus a giant lizard. I'm not too worried about where they got the fucking stupid flying things from. No shit. Where did that technology come from? Talk about the multiverse. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. The human element was horrible. Those natives, that was fucking atrocious guys. Yeah, like the middle-hearted people. Oh, yo, yo, yo.

Come on. Give me a fucking break, man. I actually, so I like, how was it atrocious? You got to explain yourself. It was a joke, dude. So why are they like, number one, why are they mute? They're number two. Because they can speak telepathically.

They're higher advanced civilization. So why is English their first language? Why do they understand everything people are saying in English? Well, I don't know. Why does song understand American Sign language? which. Yeah, Lance. You got me on that one.

Okay. Moving on. Jesus Christ, guys. Fuck. Okay. Y'all took the air out of my balloon. I had to take that a couple of times. I was like,

this random girl from Skull Island who is part of Kong's thing can only communicate him through sign language. Well, I think it makes sense now that maybe she was never really communicating with himself.

signs by sign language that she was communicating telepathically and she just didn't know it. Oh, that you just added a whole new angle to it, Brian. It's like an onion. It's got layers. Like an ogre.

Mothra. I swear they introduced Mothra and Godzilla King of Monsters and Mothra died. I don't remember that. But I wouldn't be surprised. But Mothra looked amazing in this one. Yeah, Mothra looked great.

It's just... So who was the other ones? Do we get fake Mothra? I don't know. Well, I don't know. Maybe a good question. Goes back and lays eggs in a cocoon or whatever. Oh, that makes sense.

Damn it, Rebecca Hall, you didn't explain this. I know. Yes, Rebecca Hall should have come out and explained it all to us. That's a good point. What else that I want to talk about? Scar. Scar. Little disappointed.

I expected the way the trailer has made it seem like he was bigger than Kong. That's what I was thinking when they first showed him. I thought he was going to come out and it looked like he was bigger than Kong. And I was like, holy shit, this thing is huge because Kong's bigger than all the other apes by a lot. Sure, sure. And then they showed him fighting each other and I'm like, they're the same fucking size. Yeah. Kind of an anti-climax, huh?

Yeah. And he's this little lanky thing. Yeah, and I didn't like to... Then you got Baby Kong. I liked the... What was the kaiju who controlled? Shima. I like that.

Sashima? I didn't say that. Like sushi? Okay. Oh, she. But I like the look of it. I liked his powers, but I just, you just knew off the bat that once you found out he was controlling him with that crystal. Mm-hmm.

Oh, yeah. you could see the way the rest of the movie is going for sure. Yeah. It was about to go full Frozen Empire, right? Well, okay, so, all right, Godzilla's going to fight this guy, and Kong's going to fight this guy. And then Scar is going to, he's going to lose the crystal, and then it's going to be three-on-one. Yep. And for a family movie, well, this is not a family movie. This is not a little kid, little kids.

they, without showing it, they murder so many people. Oh, yeah. There's destruction. They destroy the great pyramids. Like, falling through cities, crushing buildings. Like, there's a lot of, like, even Godzilla just moving along to go do the good guy thing is just blowing shit up along the way. Yeah, because you get a scene where it's Godzilla, he's sleeping in the Coliseum. Yeah.

And he has to go, he has to go do his good guy thing. And instead of just stepping over the Coliseum, he just walks through it. Walks to it. I thought Superman and Zod were about to show up, you know? Loving everything up. I watched that one not too long ago, too. That wasn't a bad movie. But yeah, they destroyed the fucking city.

So maybe that will be addressed in the next one. Probably not. Although I also kind of don't care. Just, you know, give me some more Godzilla and calling. In the next one, the baby Kong is going to be an insurance agent for State Farm. Instead of Jake, instead of Jake, it's going to be Baby Kong. I'm going to go out on a limb and saying the next monster verse movie is going to be Kong-centric. No Godzilla.

And it's going to be in Middle Earth. No. Yeah. I don't think so, man. Really? Godzilla got top billing on this one. It was Godzilla's Kong, Brian. Yeah, and he was barely in the movie.

True. that means he's overdue to take a whole movie over next. But he's got two movies in this universe. Oh, okay. Kong's got one, which that was a pretty good one. All right. So how about this

guys? Let's bring back this Kong, but let's also bring back the Kong from the 1962 movie with that fucking mask on. That doesn't look anything like Kong at all. Oh, the one with the peanut size brain? Yes.

His brain is this big. The other brain is this big. And that's what I always liked about... I like him. That's why I always liked about the newer version of Kong. They just didn't make them stupid. Yeah. Like, because obviously Godzilla can defeat Kong, right?

Like, if they were in a real fair fight... Sure. Because he's got firebreath. I had firebreath, nuclear explosions and shit. He's a fucking monster. And Kong is... is just smarter. Like an oversized human, basically, right?

Yeah. Oh, I can't wait for the new Planet of the Apes movie, by the way. So a new trailer for that today, too. Yeah, that looks pretty good. I don't like what they've been doing with it. It's supposed to be like 100 years after the last one or something like that. Well, it looks like the original Planet of the Apes movie to me, like the way the humans are and everything kind of feral.

So, anyway, not to get off topic. Sorry, guys. What did you guys think about Kong's mechanical hand? That's stupid. Fucking ridiculous, dude. Just like you said that helicopter or whatever, where did they get this technology?

And how did they just throw the hand down and it goes, boom, they were working on a product. They explained it. Oh, but instead of Rebecca Hall, it was Dan Stevens that had the answer. I do,

I do kind of like that they explained it really fast, and then he just went and got it, and it was right there. I know. he said that he knew they knew Kong needed advantage at a certain point and they happened to be working on a prototype and it happened to be in a middle or hollow earth I just have to take my plane and go get it yep and I'll be back in five minutes I was a little worried that they were going to go off on a tangent on that and then they didn't yeah and he was right back and I was like he was right back all right I guess that's the way we're No side quest, Philip. No. I mean, it was right back to it.

Kong needs to be hands by hand. How do we do it? I don't know. It's goofy, but I mean, it could have went. It could have went way overboard, Lance. He could have had a whole fucking MEC suit. Oh, no. That's the next movie. That's the next movie, Brian. Godzilla and a Mek. You know, you know, y'all know it's the next movie. Brian's already written it. next god king con movie is god king con and a mexico next godzilla movie godzilla's going to space okay all right on that on that note

are you guys ready to check out or any more last minute one one real quick i really liked the exploration of the middle earth thing yes like a new world and they were just finding random things in it which yeah i agree exploration aspect, I thought was kind of cool. Because even though I've highly spoken about, I'm not big on the people aspect of these movies, but I like that there also was a human civilization living there. Yeah. And all these, like, forgotten species of animals, some they never heard of,

some they thought was just fiction and stuff like that. Yeah, they got, like, full-blown. fantasy on this thing. Lots of world building, right? Mm-hmm. And I like when they enter hollow earth, how you're upside down and then everything kind of just switches and then you're right side up again. Mm-hmm.

That was pretty interesting, man. That was well done, I have to admit. I mean, it wasn't a horrible movie, but two on ten. And like Brian said, probably not going to be in my bottom ten. But at the moment. Although I have not yet seen, what was it called Brian, Death Rider in the Vampire House or whatever the hell it's called? Oh, Death Rider in the House of Vampire.

I'm talking to you, Zimbeda. That's not an Australian accent. Zimveda! I don't know what that is. Was that the dancing one? Yeah, he needs to stop making movies. You hear that, Zim? Do you hear that?

Zim. Respectfully, Zim. Your guy needs to stop making movies. All right. We'll get an earful next week. So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror

returns. You can reach us at thehorror returns at gmail.com or just go to our website, thehorrorreturns. com and follow our social media from there. Next week, I think Pedro's going to swing by if it's Tuesday. Are we

doing Tuesday, guys? Yeah, I think so. Is Pedro invited? I think he's been invited. Always. So we're going to talk about the omen, as well as the first omen. So, uh,

Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.