The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #411: The Omen (1976) & The First Omen (2024)

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

Joining us this week on The Horror Returns is the Diabolical Duo of Pedro and The Nez as we check out The First Omen as well as the 1976 original (confused yet?). Cool of the Week includes wrestling, Baghead, Baby Driver, and The Big Door Prize. Trailer is MaXXXine. The podcast spotlight shines on The VHS Doom Podcast. And we get feedback from Marcus Wilturner, John Buchanan, Adrian Garcia, and Lindsay Jane. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance. With me as always are my co-hosts, Brian and Philip, and our backup co-hosts, or maybe part of the regular crew, Pedro's here. What's up, man? What's going on? This is the quickest turnaround. I was just here a couple weeks ago to Barry the Ghostbusters movie.

Oh, yeah. Because we're just not very good. Before that, you stepped in for March Madness, too, man. I've been around and always appreciate being here. Thank you for having me again. Triple threat. All right. Brian, you think, you think Ness might drop by the recording series tonight?

Hopefully he said most likely be able to drop in when it's time to talk about the movies. Oh, man, because my cool of the week is wrestling related, man. I wanted him on for that. You can hit it, dude. We'll hit it again when it gets back on. Okay, so we'll skip my cool the week. So I was going to say, we'll skip it.

And then if he comes on, I'll double back and talk about it. That way we don't talk about it twice. But I didn't want to bring something up. So last, I was listening to the show from last week. And you guys were talking about how you guys are starting to get these weird kind of dudes giving some weird feedback about, you know, I think it was a Don Mancini feedback. Brian?

But see, to me, that correlates with the show growing, because the bigger that you guys get, you know, we are going to get these very, I would say, just to just to stay PC here, these very unique characters that are going to start coming in. And so it's good, it's good. The where they get, the more that you start expanding and growing. So it gets a little annoying

I'll be honest but it's also they're also representative of growth you know Yeah I have to pull back sometimes on Replying to some of them Because they're just like the weirdest Like what are you talking about Comments Are you looking at the same post

What the fuck is going on here Yeah But in response to the one lady that commented No I will not be posting where every single movie I'm talking about is where it's streaming at. Oh, okay. We're not that kind of feature, are we? It'd be nice, but they have service for that.

Yeah, but Brian, you notice that it's becoming more and more common to these people are starting to show more and more? Is that something that you've noticed? Yeah. Yeah, we kind of went viral on one post, and especially on a, especially on a, specific social media platforms. Our audience has grown in the past couple months. So it's a good thing. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

It's just some of the comments. I'm just like, huh? Yeah, in general, once you get big enough, you just got to stop reading the comments because no, we got to have people out there from all walks of life. They're all entitled to their own opinion, and they will definitely let them. you know. I mean, I do

appreciate the call out sometimes because, like, I posted what I thought was a Taiwanese version of a movie poster, and it was a Thai. So, little things that, yeah, I appreciate it. It was my fault for not

double checking. Yeah, yeah, constructive criticism is always welcome. Just do it with a little respect. Don't go over here, you know, talking shit, you know? Yeah, but, But to tell me, Jennifer Tilly will never do a Child's Play movie when she's currently on a Child's Play TV series. Yeah, that seems like a strange rant to go on. Well, that's interesting because to me, that's just casual. To me, that's maybe less than a casual fan, right?

Somebody that maybe doesn't keep up with the news or maybe they haven't watched the child's play movie in many years. Maybe they don't even know there's a show on that that's based on. child's play um so so yeah we have to be mindful of that as the show grows because you know in the beginning yeah the hardcores are the ones that are following you guys um but as it expands you're going to have a lot of casuals that are not as educated and so it is you are going to get these weird kind of comments like that you know so we'll be explaining stuff sort of to the best of our ability and we're going to be all over the place tonight so that ought to be fun yes so anyway what's up You're skipping my quote of the week for now.

Yeah. All right. Brian, you want to dive in or? Yeah. Anything like outstanding? We have a short turnaround from the last time we recorded. So I was outside of WrestleMania.

I only got one movie in. And that's a new shutter feature titled, what is it, Baghead. Okay. Baghead. That is probably not a thing I would have clicked. Don, how did it go? I actually like it.

That's a good. That's a best name you can come up with? Well, I mean, the premise of the movie is a girl inherits a pub from her estranged father who she has not spoken to in years.

Got Kujo there. Come on, Kujo. Move over. And she inherits the pub and finds out that there's a creature living in the basement locked up and it's a creature with a bag over its head and she later finds out that people come there to pay to see the creature because if you give it an item from a dead

dead loved one then it allows you to see that person and it has rules to it kind of like talk to me where you only have a specific amount of time and eventually the girl learns that uh using or abusing this this power kind of leads to consequences so it was it was a decent movie

I like I like the look of the the baghead creature the acting was pretty decent and yeah actually I've been a little down on recent shutter features lately and I thought this was kind of a step up

the recent ones they've been releasing. I think this came out Friday, so it's a new one. Well, that's not bad. I was expecting Baghead the shitty slasher movie, you know? No, it's... Yeah, like that one. Y'all saw that time.

That's what I called Lance. But he gave Swim fan or whatever the fuck that movie, Night Swim. Oh, God. Six on Ten. I call them Baghead. Okay. Okay, okay, Peter. The movie that's still in his top ten. Six.

on 10. Unbelievable. It's on peacock, you can re-watch it as many times as you want. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it about it. Brian, you gave away my clue of the week, man. Oh.

Come on. Or swim fan? Sure. I did a double feature again. No, not swim fan. Whatever the fuck the other one was. I almost... What's the name of that fucking movie?

I almost rewatched it because my daughter hasn't seen it. And then I was like, it's on Peacock. She was like, uh, never, I don't feel like. Not too excited. But I was going to say, that's the thing about shutter, man. And not just shutter. I mean, Netflix is like that.

Uh-huh. I mean, when, when, you know, when like the streaming, like the straight to streaming films were in their infancy, like, we're getting a lot of gems, right? It was always like a thrill who was coming up next week. And then once they started just buying anything and everything, it's like, it became the law of averages, man. You never know what you're going to get. And, yeah, Shutter used to be pretty reliable when they came to, like, good movies,

decent movies, because they were very much into, like, artsy films that you're not going to get into movie theaters. But then I think once, like, like, 824 and, like, you know, we saw, like, IFC and neon, once they picked up their game, you know, and with theatricals, all of a sudden, Shutter distribution is like, you know, they're a little left behind, you know? so now they are going to pick it up i think this month because um late night with the devil's going to be streaming there and that's that's by my fair movie of the year this far oh i'm excited about that one second strong things strong words yes i've actually held off on

watching that because i want to see a really good copy yeah no for sure it deserves it uh well i'll jump in like like you said like oh sorry like you said pedro probably be Better to see it on the small screen, actually, right? Yeah, yeah, because it's made for that. It's a TV show, so yeah, for sure. Yeah. It looks like it. Well, once again, my cool-the-week is not horror-related, and we did have a quick turnaround.

So the only thing that I've watched since then is scrolling through Netflix and clicked on Baby Driver. Dude, like I knew the movie was great. I forgot how great it was. It's such an awesome movie. Like, the music is great. The flow is great. There's not, like, any down moments in the whole goddamn thing. It's pretty awesome.

I was very happy to have watched it. My son actually got sucked into it, and he was watching it with me. He got sucked into it. Now, was it his idea? No, I just was scrolling in movies, looking for something to watch, And I was like, ah, fuck it,

baby driver. It's either that or scroll through movies for an hour. It's fun to watch that, rewatch that movie and just see how everything's playing

to the beat of each song. Yeah, absolutely. And it's cool. That whole first scene is awesome. The driving scenes are amazing. The music is great. I don't know that I've ever seen

the girl in anything before. The love interest? Oh, she's, she's been another, oh, the love interest, I thought you're talking about. Are you talking about, I think, was that, was that Lily James, I think? Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah, she's been around. Cinderella. She was great.

And then the, uh, Cinderella. Cinderella. The Hispanic chick was just, uh, the three body problem. Right. Yep. Yep. And, uh, yeah, like, she was awesome and super hot. way hotter in this one that she was in the three body problem but that's okay

but yeah man I had a had a really good time with it it was just a fun you know watching a movie moment wasn't uh I remember wasn't flea in it red hot chili pepper yeah flea was in there for a little bit Jamie Fox is in it okay uh yeah the punisher's there It's a great movie.

It's loaded on cast and it totally got underrated, I think. One of the last Kevin Spacey movies before you got canceled. Yeah, Kevin Spacey. Now, is he going to do a comeback like Mel Gibson? Oh, stop it. I wonder if he's going to do a turnaround, though, like Mel Gibson. It looks like he's starting to do. People are finally starting to forgive him, I think.

Well, we'll see. We'll see. He's been very low-key lately. Until they find out he was at a ditty party or something. I know. Yeah. And then baby driver another thing, especially now, as we reflect back on these films, it's like very original, you know, not a sequel, not a remake, just an original story. And we see, you know, less and less of that in the movie theaters nowadays. So it's cool to see that, you know?

Yeah. That is like going on my life. list of all-time classics. It's a badass movie. Does it get near enough credit? Yeah. That's all like... Baby driver.

How does it compare to Fast and Furious franchise? Oh, fuck. Way better. Like, it almost compares to Pulp Fiction. That's how good it is. Oh, that's strong words.

Well, let's editor right, and that's one of Quintinth's boys, so that doesn't surprise me. Okay. Makes sense. All right. Has Edgar Wright ever had, well, you guys would consider a bad movie? Did. I didn't care too much for that last one.

I said I can't remember the movie. Yeah, I didn't, I wasn't a huge fan. But was it bad? Nope, wasn't bad. The World's Bad was pretty impressed with it. Sean of the Dead? Dude, this guy's a fucking All-Star. The World's End.

driver last night in Soho. Scott Pilgrim. Oh, Scott Pilgrim's great. Mets, color. Reson. Do you like the videos in that one? Any else? Beck.

That's a lot of the day. That's back in the day, yeah. So anyway, he's a guy that's always guaranteed to make a decent film, at least. Yeah. Well, he's on my list. Bad-ass movie. Too bad he didn't stick with Marvel, right, Philip? You know what? I'm kind of out on Marvel.

Oh, no. Well, maybe Wolverine can pull you back in. Oh, Lance, you were reading that book, right? Yeah, I finished it. I read it right after, right after you talked about the show. I love that book. I finished it too. Yeah, it's a great book. It's good. It's a good book. You see the drama behind why he left that man, you know? He wanted to do it his way. They went through their way and he's pieced out. Creative differences. Philip, it's a book about the MCU.

And it's like a, it's a nonfiction book, but it's kind of, it goes in pretty strict order. I mean, it kind of starts with the before the MCU movies, like other attempts at Marvel movies and things like that. And then it kind of starts with Iron Man and goes from there. The Hulk stuff was kind of weird to me, Pedro, that nobody could get along. with who was it Edward Norton pissed everybody trying to call the shots

I would bear saying he couldn't get along with anyone yeah right Edward Norton like everybody I've ever heard talk about like a personal relationship with Edward Norton does not particularly like him

yeah and they made fun of that in a glass onion a little bit they kind of played with that all right I'm going to throw my They should have tried to get him for this latest Deadpool movie as a cameo and have him in one of those alternate universes.

He may be in there. I know, but I understand everybody and their mother's going to be in this film, so we'll see. Okay. All right, well, I'm going to throw up my clue of the week so we get down to brass tacks. I talked about it a little bit, I think last week, guys, but I hadn't finished it. The Apple Plus TV show The Big Door Prize.

Have you heard of it, Pedro? No, I have not. What's that all about? It's weird, dude. It's super surreal. You get, you're familiar with Chris O'Dowd, the actor that plays a lot of, he was in, who wasn't to point it out? He was in the IT crowd. I think Darren was telling me about that.

Okay. He's an Irish actor. Yeah. He does a lot of comedy, right? He does a lot of comedy. This one's kind of more of a, it's real hard to describe, Brian. It's like a little bit of comedy, a lot of surrealism, kind of sci-fi, kind of not-sci-fi. It's interesting.

I mean, the premise sounds like it'd be a horrible show. I actually didn't watch it because at first the big door prize. Yeah, you're not starting. It sounds like a game show. Well, let me give you the premise, all right? And then you just kind of take it from there. I will say this. I don't think Apple TV Plus has ever put out a really, really bad show.

They've put out, you know, quite a few that I'm a real big fan of and a couple that are alright. This one's kind of like the all right. But like Brian said, we haven't had much time. I've been busy with my wife's birthday. So we just finished this up. All right, so it's a small town, right? You got all these weird, quirky characters. And it's like the general store slash hardware store slash grocery store.

And this machine shows up in there. It looks like a video game, and everybody sits at the machine, and it spits out a card that says one word that's supposed to be your potential future. So the one guy that runs the story, he always wanted to be a magician when he was a kid and it spat out magician. And so he's doing magic shows and stuff like that. And then there's somebody that picks up a card and it spits out liar. And then you get another person that gets a card that says, you know, hero, just like one word. And then each episode, you get one character's story. and then toward the end they kind of start

I guess weaving the characters together and then the end of the second or the end of the first season I mean I think the second season starts April 24 so a couple weeks away but the ending is one of those kind of cliffhanger like what does that mean so that doesn't sound like much does it guys

I think I want to be skipping this one Lance I'll be honest with you Chris all right Chris O'D carries it if you get bored give it a try If you don't like the first episode, you won't like the series. How about that? I think I won't be renewing my Apple TV Plus. You got, oh, Servant's over.

So you've seen that one already, Brian? I need to finish Servant, though. I'm going to finish it. Brian, have you watched it? Yeah, I've seen the first episode of Season 1. That's all you need to hear. Philip, save me, man. I still haven't finished season one.

I got through six or seven episodes, I think. It wasn't out. I need to binge it sometimes. Like, these, there's too much shit to watch. When they do that week-to-week thing, I forget about it. Yes, true. They are bad about that. Unlike that.

I finished the first season. I finished the first season. And you're intrigued enough to continue, it sounds like. yeah but i finished the first season when it first ended which was like seven years ago so uh it's been a while yeah it's because because it ran about six seasons right yes it did and they they wrapped it up they wrapped wait what did servant is it that old yeah no fucking way man time flies you know that's right i remember this is a trip I remember when this show, the horror returns first started, right?

Many years, around the same time. One of you guys was like, Amnai Shamelon has his new show called The Servant. Yeah. And he says he's got five seasons worth of story. And you guys couldn't believe it. He was like, how the fuck is he going to do? Because, you know, at that time, he had the bad rep of not really delivering, not really hitting the landing in his films.

And here we are all these years laters, and he finished it. It's just like that, huh? I can't believe it's been going on for that long. It seems like it was just a year or two ago. Didn't his daughter help him write that? Something like that, yeah, something like that. Maybe she's the key to him finishing, writing a story. She's like, Dad, that ending sucks.

We need to fix it. Dad, you've lost the step, right? All these Nepple babies, you know, all these filmmakers always end up. promoting their kids and, you know, I think Robert Rodriguez, his entire workforce, consists of all his kids, just doing work for him over and over. Rocket and Rebel. He's one of those guys that named them after the letter R. All his kids are named like Rocket, Rebel, and there's another one.

It's weird. Rick-Chi. Now that's funny. Hey, call him reboot. All right. Reboot. There you go. A little reboot.

All right. Y'all ready to move on? Let's go. Cool of the week kind of fizzled. So maybe we can get shot so shines of our show signs of life again with Brian's news stories. What's going on this week, Brian? Well, we'll continue with TV talk with the world that keeps pulling you back in, Lance, the Walking Dead. Dead City Season 2.

Ken Cokes joins the season as a. this might be a step for him to play a gang member. Oh, I love that guy. One of the original sons of anarchy, Pedro. Yep, yep. So I did finish the... Did any of you guys finish the ones who live? I've never watched an episode of any of this...

Oh, my God, years are really off the fucking... I'm way behind. Yeah, I'm way behind. My wife is re-watching all of the Walking Dead scenes. seasons right now. And so that's all that's ever on. See, I started to do that a couple months ago, because I was going to go through by order. Yeah. And then get to the, the spinole shows. And then I got halfway through season one. And I was like, I don't want to do this shit all over again. Yeah. Well, and season one and two are pretty awesome. And then like, season three and on, it just sort of rolls downhill. Well, season one and two, that was a friend.

dare by it right yeah yeah but season two is the one that gets criticized for being too boring because remember they look for that little girl for like half the season and she was in the fucking she was in the fucking barn oh yeah well it's better than being stuck in the prison with the same goddamn setting the whole season that shit oh my god i forgot about i forgot about the barn yes um yeah it's you in the barn brine but season three four and five, it's when it was in its prime. Like, that's when everybody was talking about. That's right when Nagan showed up

and ruined everything. Yeah, he's the one that took it down. But I did see the ones who lived. I enjoyed it for what it was. And, you know, I don't like to use that term. Everybody knows how much I hate when people say enjoyed it for what it was. But I think it was definitely an improvement from all the

bullshit that it became. And they really tried. And I know that the person that, the actor that plays Rick. He had a lot to do, he had a lot of input on this one. So it made sense from where the story goes. Yeah, it was fun. It was a fun show.

And it's, it's about Rick. So it's like it takes you back to like the main character. Six episodes, you know, it's not too much of an investment. Michone's in there. The lead heel or the lead bad guy is the guy that he played John Locke and lost. He's pretty good

in this. Yeah. I love. that actor, man. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty the stepfather, right, the original stepfather. Mm-hmm. That's right. With the tie.

Terry, Terry, what? Was it Terry? Some or other. Not Terry Gillian. Terry O'Quinn. Terry O'Quinn, there you go. So he's pretty good. So, yeah, no, no, it was fun.

It was fun. I'm not going to spoil it. I imagine one of these days, one of these years from now. You guys are going to go back and check it out just because that's how things usually play out. And so, yeah, I recommend it. The ones who live, the walk in there. That's my half of Michael of the week.

And that's amazing. And you don't have to watch the other series to know what's going on either, right? Like, you can just kind of pick up where the regular show left off. Yeah, because it's Rick's story. So essentially it's from the time that Rick blew up on the bridge and then... Yes, that's right. Jesus Christ. Wow.

Yeah, so it's a time from when he blew up on the bridge and then it's his story. going forward. So it's the sequel to his story. Oh, so this was probably what was originally going to be the movie then. Yeah, yeah, that's what I think it was, yeah. All right, makes sense. That's cool. So it's contained into six episodes and that's it, huh? I like that. Yeah, interestingly enough, I mean, they could always make a second season,

but the ending does have a finality to it. So I don't know if they're going to go back and make another one. Yeah, yeah, there is what we could consider. like a finale to this season and the series in general. So we'll see. We'll see. Well, you always got season two and Darryl Dixon, which is going to be about Carol. Yes.

There you go. Okay. Well, Philip, we might have to get on that again, man. Yeah, maybe. I lost interest in Darrell, even though he's my favorite guy. Oh, no. Yeah. Well, those Nigan years didn't do him any favors.

He's just like the worst in those years. Yeah. He's wearing a potato sack for half of a season and one. I don't know. It's a big mess. Do you guys remember? He's a potato sack. I do.

I do remember that, man. But now he's in France. Oh, Jesus. All right. Got some 28 years later news. Jody Comer and Charlie Hunnam are in talks the star in the movie. Okay. All right, right, Jacks, okay, good.

Yeah, American accent or British accent? British accent. First two were set in Britain, right? Yeah. Okay, so. British accent, it is. There's your, there's my answer. But there was a movie where all the cast were British,

but Charlie Hunnam did an American accent. It was weird. Was that the Guillermo del Toro? movie. Crimson Pete? Didn't he do an American action? Oh, okay, that's right. That is the one. Yeah. No, he doesn't do American accents. He does

non-British accent. There's a difference. That guy has like the worst fucking American accent, the history of American accent. Yeah, generic non-British accent. Let's see. Callie Reyes from True Detective Knight Country

and Annabel Wallace from Malignant. They joined a cast of Amazon MGM Studio sci-fi thriller Mercy, who already cast Rebecca Ferguson and Chris Pratt. Wow, a little money to spend there, it sounds like. Okay. It's Jeff Bezos. Yeah, I hadn't seen Chris Pratt do anything for a while, so that'll work.

He's been doing a lot of, like, voiceover stuff, voice acting stuff. Oh, yeah, I guess he was in the Mario movie. He's doing Garfield. he's doing a He's doing a prequel season That show you were talking about Phil From on Amazon

Which one Where he's like Doesn't have his memory or whatever Oh With the Where he was like a Special Forces guy or whatever Yeah they're doing a prequel season

Oh okay Yeah I'm down with that That was a good show Yeah I can't remember the name name of it, but it was good. So he's doing that in Garfield. It was one of those Tom Clancy kind of things.

To nobody's surprise, Courtney Cox is in talks to return for Scream 7. I don't know why, but okay. I mean, I don't know what she contributes to any of these films. They're going to make her face the mask before too long. That was fucked up. I'm sorry.

She needs to end up being the killer. That's the only way all these fucking appearances are going to make sense. to me. Eventually she, because if you see this film, like she's so pigeonholed into these films. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. All right. I'm going to butcher this name. Wunumi,

Mosaku. She was in Loki both seasons. She was the agent that ended up helping Loki and Owen Wilson's character, the Black Lady. Yeah, I remember. Oh, okay.

Yeah, she has joined the cast of Ryan Cougler and Michael B. Jordan's untitled vampire movie, which they released some of the plot. It would be vampires going up against the KKK. What? Oh, of course, yes. Oh, man. And Jack O'Connell is in talks to play the villain. The only thing I know him from was that Angelina Jolie movie that she directed Unbreakable. So he's going to be the leader of the KKK or what?

Yeah, I think this is set back in the day. Sounds like they got star power behind this one. But they have not said if Michael B. Jordan is in the movie. Just keep saying Ryan Cougler and Michael B. Jordan is like it's a... Like he's part of the production. Yeah, like he produced it. Yeah, probably. And go ahead.

Do we know if Ryan Coogler is going to even direct it or is he also just producing it? Maybe I skimmed over it, but everything I've read, it just keeps saying Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan are working on this project together. So maybe he's directing. I know Michael B. Jordan is recently directed with Creed 3. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got some experience. KKK versus vampires, all right, I'm ready for that. And we're all big fans of Samara Weaving. Oh, yes.

Oh, I know I am. And we all pretty much like Ready or Not. Of course. Yes, we do. Ready or Not, too, is officially in development, but Radio Silence is not directing. They've stayed radio silent, huh? Adam Robitel, who did the escape. Obes.

Oh, no. What the hell? Isn't she the only one that survived? Yeah, she's the only one, well, of course. Yeah, it's a bright. She was a bright. Tomorrow weizing is set to return, though. How do you do a sequel?

It doesn't matter. She's the only one left. So is she going to be married to another douchebag with a crazy family? Is that what we're looking out of here? She's got really bad luck. Really bad taste of that. Another bad choice, huh? Who knows?

I'll be there, though, because it's, you know, Tomorrow weaving, I'm there. I just need to get Sidney's Sweetie in their weather and then recover. She could be resigning the alphabet, and I'll be there. You know, I don't remember a bad movie that she's done. Oh, you haven't seen the new rom-com yet. Oh, you're talking about Samara. Yeah, Smar weaving.

Oh, okay. So. I was going to say, Sidney, I can name a couple of us. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like that, huh? But Samara Weaving has done some really good movies. And, like, sometimes they're not even really that great of movies, and she just makes them good.

So. I can see that. We'll see how like those. Even, like, three billboards where she shows up for literally one 33-second scene. Was she in that movie? I forgot about that. Yeah. Did you blink?

Because you might have missed her. Yeah, well, she's barely in it. That's still a great movie, though. That's, I love that movie. Oh, for sure. All right, that's the news. All right. Pedro, you ready to go down to the trailer park?

Yep, let's do it. I'm excited for this one. All right, the big, the small, and the very, very weird, X, X, X, X, X. What's this week, Brian? We finally got the Maxine trailer. from A24. Give you guys a quick synopsis.

In 1980s, Hollywood, adult film star and aspiring actress Maxine Minks finally gets her big break. However, as a mysterious killer stalks the starlets of Los Angeles, a trail of blood threatens to reveal her sinister past. This is starring, of course, Mia Gauth, Elizabeth Debicki, Moses Sumney, Michelle Monaghan, Bobby Conavall, Lily Collins, Halsey, Jean-Carlo Esposito, and Kevin Bacon. And this is real... Kevin Bacon. They have a little money behind this one, don't they? I'd say, I'd say.

Written and directed by Ty West. All right. Oh, I was going to say, this Giancarlo guy, he's everywhere. And I don't blame him, right? We're happy for him. You know, all these actors, they have a limited window to make real money. So he's just taking advantage. because every time I turn on the TV, he's got a new TV show, he's a guest star on a TV show, he's got a new movie.

I mean, he's juicing it for all his worth. So I'm good for him, good for him. Yeah, he's got that new show that's kind of like Baby Driver without the music. Parrish. Yes, I think it's on Prime, right? Yeah, it's on Prime. It might be a... Parrish?

Yeah, he's like a transporter. Louisiana? type driver. So now they're trying to make them into an action stars. Oh, okay. It might not work. Well, you never know. You never know. He's just cashing in. That's all he's doing. I don't give a fuck.

Hey, he's good actor, man. I like him. So as... I'm excited for this one. I'm getting kind of like a Tarantino-ish changing of history vibe with this film. I don't know if that's the exact where it's going to go. But it's like... I mean, and they're saying the Knight-Stocker in 1986,

which the Nightstocker, in LA was one Richard Ramirez, but they never say that name in the movie. They just say the Nightstocker. So I don't know if they created... Yeah, I don't know if they created another night stalker for this film or if it's Richard Ramirez because the real knightstocker didn't go after young ladies.

He actually went after old ladies, like old, you know, 70-year-old women. Easier to catch. It gave me the impression that Maxine is the night stalker. Yeah, possibly. Possibly. I mean, And then there's another plot of her kind of getting blackmailed because I don't know, they found a tape

and somebody plays it for her and she freaks out a little bit. So I don't know if somebody found a tape of the ranch or whatever from X. I don't know. It's interesting. We'll see. Yeah, because I think from what I got from the trailer, Kevin Bacon's character is a private investigator that was hired to find her. Yes. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah.

But I was going to say When it comes to the Nightstalker, the real one, he was actually caught Like in my neighborhood He was actually caught in the A neighborhood in Boyle Heights And he was probably about, I don't know I want to say maybe about four or five houses

Down from where I was living at the time So it was a big fucking deal Yeah, yeah, they caught him there The neighbors came out and they dropped them in the middle of the street They called the cops And that's how he got caught. I mean, he was, It was a thing here in LA, 1986.

Like, people were scared because this motherfucker was opening doors, going in through windows, and he was raping and killing old ladies. And he got a few of them before they actually caught him. So, yeah, that was interesting. And it was always the thing. I'll never forget it. I mean, though, the entire neighborhood was on alert. And it was the neighborhood that caught him, not the cops.

So that was something weird. What would possess you to want to rape? old ladies. Well, he was a Satanist. I mean, he was... Well, that explains it. That explains it, right? The second right into our main features for tonight. Yeah, rolls right into our theme of our...

No, no, but what I'm trying to say is that obviously this guy was mentally disturbed. So, and for somebody said that he didn't shower for like months on then, and he, like, in the courthouse, he reeked. And I don't know, it was all these weird stories coming out. But he ended up getting a lot of, like, followers. as these guys tend to do, right, in prison, I think he found love in prison. And now with another inmate with an actual, you know, female from him that he met,

or that started writing letters to him. So there's the population of people out there that are attracted to these fucking sick fuck. So, yeah, yeah. So that's my Richard Ramirez story. Interesting. Huh, there you go. What you think, thanks, brother.

No, I think it looks great, man. like this this may be the best out of the three um to me it's got that 80s vibe going to it it looks like me agath at her best um despite the controversies but uh yeah i'm excited about it for sure i'm hoping that it's sort of a standalone movie where you don't have to know everything that happened in the others well i mean if that tape or whatever it is that they're trying to I mean, again, we're trying to piece together from a two-minute trailer. It seems like, yeah, that X does come back to play a part in this film, but it's not something that you have to watch, you know, because X is not even really about her.

It's mostly about Pearl, if I, you know, in a lot of ways. So I think, yeah, I think it's more like, yeah, you could just watch this standalone. And then also, it's also very, it's also one of those, like, meta-nerty films that leaves a lot of, like, little Easter eggs for, like, the hardcore, like, horror fanatics because they're talking up, they're in a video store, and they're bringing up all these horror movies in the trailer. So it's going to be one of those as well, like kind of like a scream film kind of vibe. Yeah, no, I'm excited. And Ty West is a big fan of this stuff. So he's another guy that I don't, I mean, I'm not a fan of all his films. I think he tends to like be very

methodical on some of his films and they really take forever to get going. But I don't think he's made a bad film. Even the Western that he made, I think it's called a History of violence. Even that one, yeah, I think that's what it's called. Even that one was a fun film. So yeah, he knows how to make movies. He knows how to make movies. And I'm looking forward to this one. He said it was very like geoloish. So we'll see. I could see by the color patterns and the neon shit that, you know, I do get that vibe. And then there's a quick cut scene of, of a guy like wearing like the gloves and all that, like very like like a geolo killer woodwear. So we'll see. We'll see. But I'm

excited for it. I don't think it gave a release day though. But I'm here in September-ish, so we'll see if they stick to that date. Oh, we got a release date of July 5th. Oh, even better. Wow. Summertime. Now, Pedro, do you think he's able to connect all the movies? Like, we'll see connections to Pearl in this one?

I mean, you could have something like Kevin Bacon be like... But see, here's the problem with that, is that Pearl, the character doesn't have any connection to Maxine other than whatever happened at the barn. I mean, yeah, there's ways to do it. It was from like the 50s or whatever. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's interesting. 40s or something. I think it's confusing because it's the same actress playing all these fucking characters. That's why. Yeah. And then I still, I mean, you know, she's a very beautiful woman. Don't get me wrong. But the fact that she has all her freckles, like, on one side of her face.

And then on the other side, she has, like, no freckles whatsoever. It always kind of throws me off a little bit. But she's a gorgeous. this woman. She's a weird looking chick for like to be real. Yeah, very unique. That's always got Brian the the lack of eyebrows. Yes. I'd never I never noticed until I think I think it was my wife that she came to watch X with me and she just could say that she have eyebrows and then I just couldn't stop looking. But it's like but but it's I feel like it's her natural eyebrows that are just not there.

Yeah. She looks the same in every film, so it's not for the character, for sure. So, no, I'll be there for sure. I'm very, this is one of the ones that I've been looking forward to the most all year, so I'm definitely going to be there July 5th.

What'd you take, Lance? Well, it's definitely polished, right? I mean, this is probably Ty West's most polished-looking film, at least if you go off the trailer. But Petra, what she started talking about, dude, that's exactly right. Like his thing was always, like his gimmick, if you want to call it that, was always the slow burn. You know, so, you know, these last couple of movies he's done, they don't really have that slow burn anymore.

Stuff kind of starts happening earlier on. So I'm curious to see what he does with this one. I know it's going to be good. We all know it's going to be good. I don't know if it's going to be great, but I want it to be great, you know, so we'll see how it plays out. I think we're all going to be there opening night. Yeah, I'm contemplating Because we are going to review it for the show And I know we did X We did like a quick little bonus episode But we never did Pearl I'm wondering if we should do all three movies

You're the boss You're the scheduler, ma'am I'm gonna throw it out there right now Pearl right now is my favorite over X I think it was a better movie And so we'll see how this one falls on line Maybe not on the rewatch, Philip. You might see new things.

I doubt it, man. I think Pearl was legitimately a decent movie, and then X was maybe a little much. Although, you know, it definitely had its good moments. So are they going to have a... Are they going to have a scene with an alligator going down the streets of L.A. or something? I don't know.

They're going to be able to bring it full circle. Keep that tradition. The same alligator. It went through the sewers. Don't you know they could go through sewers? We know that already. Yeah. How long the alligators live?

It migrated to the sewer system and it ended up in L.A. in a pool somewhere. There's allegations. They're coming out of the pools. In Kevin Bacon's pool. And then there's going to be a scene in the movie where Maxine sees the alligator in a pool hundreds of miles away from the previous alligator. But she's going to go, she's going to know that's the alligator.

Talked yet. I can't wait. But I was going to say, X, I think the reason why X is so beloved, first of all, I really like that movie, but I wouldn't say it's also very slow. I think what happens with that movie and what Ty Wuss

did a great job is that the dialogue in that movie is really, really good. And so it keeps you engaged even when nothing is happening, but it doesn't really take it to the next level until maybe into like late in the third act where the shit really hits the fan um but yeah the first couple of acts are just very slow and you know pro's killing people in a in a very slow way um and so i would say that's still one of the

slower movies and then with pro it's very much a character piece so that one i think again i think that the performance is amazing which is why we were activated by it and also the dialogue is very good you know so um and then it captures like the descendant to madness it's in a very realistic way, you know, because I know a lot of girls like that, trust me. And that's why it stayed with me. I'm like, holy shit, this guy, he did a good job with this research.

And so, yeah, but I know, I think Ty West is still, and he's, I think he said it on interviews. He's like, you know, you just want to build and build and build and then give the payoff at the end, you know? So I know that's one of his criticisms. I've gotten used to it, and I really enjoy all his films, even though they do tend to be very slow.

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I don't know about the remake, though. I never watched the remake. I heard it was terrible. You didn't miss much. Ryan loved it. Did you give it a 9 out of 10, Brian? Oh, yeah, especially when I found out the cameo that was in it,

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It gets confusing. It gets really confusing. Well, because the first omen is like a prequel. Yeah, that's why it's the first omen. It's not confusing. But what's... Okay. It's just confusing in the format in which we're trying to present it.

That's why it's confusing. So we'll start with the original omen, which came out in 1976. Have we done this movie already? Probably. How's that spreadsheet? Yes. Probably. For generations, the thorns have been a family of tremendous wealth, position, and power.

The perfect marriage of Ambassador Robert Thorn and his wife, Catherine, was fulfilled by the birth of their son, Damien. And then, when the child was five years old, something terrible happened. And then it happened again. Was it an accident? Was it murder? Was it a coincidence?

Or was it an ober? Look at me, Damien. It's all for you. 20th Century Fox presents a film of psychological suspense. Okay. Well, anyway, mysterious deaths around an American ambassador. Could the child he is raising actually be the Antichrist? The devil's own son.

director is Richard Donner, also known for Superman and the Goonies. Writer is David, which are totally not what this movie is. Writers are David Seltzer, also known for Bird on a Wire and Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Wow. Yeah, they're going all over the place. Harvey Stevens, as Damien, was largely chosen for this role for the way that he attacked, Richard Donner during auditions. Donner asked all the little boys

to come at him as if they were attacking Catherine Thorne during the church wedding scene. Stephen screamed and clawed at Donner's face and kicked him in the groin during the act. Donner whipped the kid off, ordered the kid the kid's blonde hair dyed black

and cast him as Damien. That's how you get it. We're going to arrest it for that nowadays. That's the fucking right there. We've got to get that kid. If Kevin's face he had been doing the casting, it would have been a different story. I imagine that kid doing that smile he did at the end of the movie

when he got the role. Yes, yes. He got him a little off, honey. One of the reasons why Gregory Peck accepted the role of the tortured father conflicted with the guilt was because he hadn't been around when his son Jonathan committed suicide in 1975.

So in that way, you walk back down. All right. The original Omen. Pedro, you want to start us off? Yeah, yeah. I really like this movie. It's a classic. It came out in the 70s during the beginning of what was known as the Satanic Panic,

which was a real thing here in the United States. Blelled into the 80s a little bit. But, yeah, it's very, the ambience, the atmosphere is really the star of this film, right? Because just the way it was filmed, the performances are all great. There's all, you know, these 70s films, and there's a lot of them, right?

They all have this aesthetic of like, they all look really creepy. And I don't know if there's film stock or the performances, but there's something... Yeah, yeah, and so this film captures that perfectly. And you get the sense of dread throughout the entire film.

And that's like juxtapult, juxtapose, or whatever. hard work for Latino by the little kid right who's who's so like in the beginning anyway he's he's very innocent you you see the malevolent starting to show up later on as the movie goes along but it's but it's very subtle it's nothing up into the end where he does the creepy smile at the end everything is very subtle with this kid um so i thought everything was spot on um i thought the story was great i i just it's like it peels right like an onion like we've talked about in the pass is giving you little bits of information, along with Robert Thorne's character. You're finding

out what's going on along with him. I don't know about Damien Thorne, though. That's a little too much on the nose right there for me. Come on. Like, the anti-crime is going to be, that's too much of a perfect name for him. Right? It's like, come on. Like, what was it? What was it he called like Stephen Jackson or something, you know? So, so. My name is Big Dick McGrath. And I am the Antichrist. Now, yeah, as, now, there are some red cons that we're going to get to. The prequel did change some stuff. We'll get to it in the prequel when we talk about the prequel.

But, yeah, just the way that they describe how he was conceived, like, it's pretty disturbing with the jackal. And so you do find a couple of characters that show up in the prequel that we'll get to. But to me, like, we talk about the atmosphere. We talk about the performances. All great. But the kills in this movie are so fucking morbid and dark. Like, they're brutal. The ambulance scene with Catherine Thorne, her death when she flies out of the window into an ambulance.

The decapitation scene with David Warner. Yeah. All these scenes are like so fucking, even when the wife gets hurt, when she falls off the, whatever, she's doing something to her little plants. and then she falls over. And so that's even brutal. Like, there's like, yeah, those are hardcore scenes. From the get-go with the hanging scene.

Yeah, the hanging scene was they, how weird is it that they try to recreate that in the prequel? And it's not as impactful because you see a lot of CGI bullshit. CGR fire. Yeah. So, and then, of course, just the ending, it has a very dark ending. is not a happy ending whatsoever, and then it needs it to part two. Part two is also very dark. It's not as good as the first one, but it's also, it's also, the kills are also kind of wild in that film as well. So yeah, so I love this film. I've seen it a bunch of times. I watched it again today with no problem. You know, usually a film that I've seen this much, I would be like, yeah, I know it by memory. I'll just recap it, but I wanted to see it again. Just good film. Now, I will say a couple of things. First of all, let's talk about David Warner's hair.

I know I wasn't around in the 70s, okay? But there is no way that was an acceptable haircut even back then. This man- He was British, though. You got to give him a pass. It was like a perfect helmet. You know what I thought? I thought he was wearing one of those.

You know, you know that gimmick? You know that gimmick that Magneto wears so that Professor Examer doesn't get in his head? I think he was wearing one of those. Like, I was like, what the fuck is going on with David Warner's hair? Yeah, dude, that's 70s hair. Oh, man. You remember that, Lance. That's how it was like that.

I remember it like it was yesterday, man. Just like, uh, Russellmania was. Well, no, Rossomania wasn't yesterday, was it? A couple of days ago. You guys are still probably highest kites over that. I get to that later. Sorry.

What's up, yeah, what's up? Yeah, that hairstyle, it was wild in the 70s. I remember a lot of it. Yeah,

but David Waters' hairstyle in this film is like, it's like, it's like they literally put a bow in his head and just cut off of it. it's so perfect that's what makes it so disturbing they they gave him a dumb and number and then also the thing that i envy in the beginning they got this scene where the where the little kid damien little damien thorn is having his little party and i'm reminded of how awesome those little toys were from back in the day before before people started freaking out and started making them like all like safe and stuff

because there was this like little um what do you call it like um he was like a little cart with like these steel beams completely unsafe by the way but it looks so fucking awesome and they're just yanking him and he's having the time of his life

they don't have that anymore because all these parents get so worried about their kids hurting themselves but that was pretty cool anyways I love this movie eight on ten Les you want to talk about the first Omen? Yeah there everyone go already

I don't know just talking about the Omen Yeah, I don't know. The first one, original 76? This movie's hell of good. The first time I seen this was it was on TV. When it went, the first time it aired on TV after it did its run in the theater. So I saw the cut up version.

I didn't see the actual version until it came on Showtime or HBO, whatever those ones were back then. at the beginning stages of pay cable. So that's when I finally saw it. But from what I remember watching it on TV, of course they show you what they could. We didn't really see the decapitation. We didn't see that the nun fall and jerk and crass to the window. It was like she fell,

and then they showed her really fast hanging there. So they cut out all really good scenes. Yeah, they cut all that out. But I just remember But they didn't cut off David Warner's haircut I'll tell that right now And that's probably the most disturbing thing of the entire film So I mean, yeah, I mean I've seen so I've seen it that way

I've seen this in the theater a few times when they bring them back And I've always loved this film I had it on VHS DVD And I have the box set of all of them I didn't really care for the remake it was it was all right But this one it was awesome I love loved it. I mean, the little kid, I don't even know if he went on to do anything else. But I thought everybody was in it. David Warner, he's awesome. Probably not. It sounds like he had some mental problems. He's evil from Thai bandits. And break me back, you can't go wrong

with him. Was it Billy Whitelaw, Mrs. Baylock? She still scares me watched in this film. I thought she was awesome. Lee Remick, she's good, but she got on my nerves at times. But this film was awesome. The Jerry Goldsmith's score, amazing. All the cinema photography, awesome. Of course, practical effects. Can't beat the 70s. And it was in the all-or-nothing days.

And I liked what was going on. And if you do all the back lore of what happened when they were filming this with the terrorist attack and Gregory Pecks, almost the plane he was supposed to get on, crashed. And all this, there was all kinds of stuff going on into it, into the film before they were making it. And as they were making it. Watch cursed films. They go into some of that on a shutter. But the film, it's an amazing film. I love this one.

I do love the second one a little bit more. Damien, the Omen 2. Final Conflict. I liked what was happening until the end. And I was like, really? Because I just rewatched all three of them. Oh, Sam Neal. Yeah.

I mean, he's always Damien in my eyes. Everyone thinks he's whatever he is in Jurassic. park now he's Damien but this one this the one that started it off seeing it as such a young age I was always fascinated with it and then when I finally got to see the rated R version on cable and just loving it and I've seen this movie a billion times if you haven't seen it there's a free copy on YouTube the whole movie so it's pretty clear so definitely check it out that's where I watched it yesterday or if you have Hulu all of them are on there so I think the the first four films and then the remake is all on Hulu so definitely check it out but yeah this movie is awesome

ever see the Oman what are you doing listening to us go watch it right now yeah but this one in the first one to us talk about it the first time this movie's hell of good i love it all right brian you want to jump in yeah real quick the kid went on to do a tv movie four years later and then he was in the omen remake as a tabloid reporter he had a cameo. Wow. They threw them a bone. They had issues growing up like they all do after a while.

I would imagine, yeah. You get into the Hollywood scene as a kid. We saw what happened with that Nickelodeon thing. Oh, man. Amongst other things. Yeah, you were talking all about that, Danz. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Someone would have had to die. I don't care. For real. Yeah, everything that's been said so far, I 100% agree. This is one of those classics that when you put it on, you just, there's some classics when you put it on. It's just you can have it into background playing. This one is one of those ones where you have to sit down and watch.

Yeah. Everything is iconic from the performances. The score was one of those scores as a kid when I heard. heard it just sent chills down and through my body every time I heard it just it scared me as a kid it's creepy that Latin stuff yeah the

the kills are iconic because you can whenever you see like compilations of best horror kills there's multiple kills from this movie that always pop up in those compilations because it's like a pick and choose which one you think is the best

because you know they're all good um I like to aspect with the with the with the with the with the dogs the the little hounds of hell that was sent to communicate with with the different followers I always love that aspect of it and the roddies man they used to have one and like like Pedro said this this movie gets dark because that scene when he finds the the great where they buried his son and found out that his son never died that they killed his son and you can see where they they bashed the baby in the head.

Yeah. That's rough. That's, this movie gets started. And you guys ever notice in that scene when the Rottweilers attack? There's like faces in the, in the bushes watching? No.

No. Yeah, because I was wondering, I was wondering, is that like purpose, on purpose, or is that like one of those, like,

movie bloopers where it was like maybe like the dog trainers or something watching or I don't know man that it kind of gave me goosebumps when you said it for this movie whether it was an accident or not it works yes it's when the dogs are attacking

yeah and when they're at the graveyard scene it's like you know the bushes the bushes that are like by the by the gates all right I'm trying to find that scene you gotta get like maybe it was David Warner hairdresser looking for him.

We need to re-up on the hairspray. But yeah, this is an iconic movie. I am now, Nez is talking about it. I am interested in going back and watching the sequels. Because I think, Nez, you do Zohman 2 last year for 30, days I think I did yeah I think that's when I watched rewatch that one and I haven't seen any of the other one I don't even remember if I even seen the the the omen remake honestly yeah the omen too is also a classic and its primary objective is to top the kills of this one and I'll just leave it of that so yeah it also has some insane fucking kills it's like it did that the second one didn't go into much more because we already

know who Damien was. That was a film where Damien found out who he was. So I don't want to get into that. Well, we'll be here on that rule into that one. But yeah, I mean, the kills were awesome. Yeah, like you said, Pedro, they were trying to outdo what they did in this first one. Oh,

shit, there is faces in the bushes. God, yeah. Okay. Do they look like they're purposely there or do you think it's like production crew? I don't know. I think they might just

for the scare factor don't like eat this guy I feel like I was going to say with today's technology I feel like Richard Donner would have taken them out but you know just they weren't supposed to be there but see they now I'm thinking but they wouldn't be the dog trainers

because they're not they wouldn't then they wouldn't be in position if something went wrong yeah that's true they probably were meant to be there Unless you had a bunch of dog trainers. Or it's demons. All right. Pass it over.

Pass it over to Lance. Lance, which thing? Yeah, it's, it, this is, this is a good movie. I'm trying to think if I'm, was this in an alternate universe or am I remembering a different movie that was a parody of this? But I thought, I thought he dressed up like Angus Young or something, like a schoolboy. Am I the kid of a different movie? Help me out here, somebody. No, they look like Angus John

He was wearing that outfit, yes That was at the end of the movie Oh, okay I guess I blinked and missed it It was the last scene in the movie Okay, well When he turns and looks at the camera Yeah, I caught that in the freeze frame

I don't, okay, all right They just do probably just publicity shots from the film He just didn't do a leg kick So Lance, were you expecting him to have a guitar and doing leg kicking the whole thing or what? I thought so. Spinning around on the floor, playing the guitar. Yeah, this was definitely a fun movie.

It's a good watch. I mean, you guys have said everything, you know, worth saying. It's a good way that it starts at the hospital. And, yeah, there are some things that the new movie tries to kind of like echo in certain scenes. and none of them tend to work as well in the new movie. Yeah, well, they also wrecked on a lot of stuff too, which we'll get into. Yeah, we're going to have to. There's not, I don't need to say a lot more about this one.

I think we're all in agreement. Is there, is there anything that caught your eye this time rewatching it? You mean versus the last time we reviewed it? No. Yeah. Did you see this in a theater? I didn't, no, I didn't. No, I didn't see it in the theater.

I think I caught, I actually think I saw the final conflict first. Like somehow I missed these. These were off my radar when I was a kid. The Allman movies? Yeah, yeah. Maybe I was told I couldn't watch him or something. I'm trying to remember.

But I saw the final conflict first, and I'm like, okay, cool, let me go back and see how this kid got started. Does he wear that school costume in the whole second movie? No, he's a TV. He's a military school. Military school. I don't know that I've ever seen the sequels.

I don't know if I've seen. Phil, you at least watch the second one. Yeah, watch the second one. I don't know that I have. I don't know that I've seen them. No, you should. You should watch it.

Watch the second one. The third one, final conflict. Yeah, you can get without it. Las, I think you're also thinking of the children of the corn kids because they also tend to wear those kind of little outfits as well. It's just stupid. that didn't get you.

Nothing's more fun to watch than an evil kid, right? You know? I mean, we deal with this shit in real life, and now we get to deal with it in the movies, too. God damn. Evil kids are great, man. Awesome subgenre. And is this the one that started at all?

Or was there some before this that you guys could trace back prior to The Omen? As far as like a little kid? Well, yeah, all the kids were the blowing eyes. In the 50s. Yeah, that's right. Well, yeah, the bad seats. stuff, but this is like... The kids in the village of the dam, the block the home.

That's the one I'm thinking of with the weird eyes. Yeah. Village and Damned. Now, one of the things here is that they do give Robert Thorne. They tell them how to kill Damien. And to me, it was like, God damn, because it's not just, you don't just shank them once. You have to shank them six times with six different knives. And I'm like, what the fuck, man? See, that's what I didn't like, That's why I didn't like the final conflict ending. Spoiler alert, everyone, when Damien gets killed. Yeah. The lady just stabs him in the back, like just a little bit.

It's not like she jammed the whole thing all the way through him. She, like, just stabbed him once and then pulled it out, and then he just fell over and the movie was over. Maybe he wasn't really dead. Maybe he wasn't really dead as open interpretation. Oh, no. Because, yeah, if you got to shank your own son. Six times of six times with six different nights. That's a fucking problem.

And the other thing I had about the final conflict is they were saying in this one, it had to be his dad to kill him. Right. Because of, and then that some, well, I can't remember where the chick wasn't, I don't think it was related to him. Did he have to be like on the altar to? Well, he fell over onto an altar at the end. But, yeah. Oh, okay. He didn't have it.

He didn't have it in him. Yeah, I saw they were next to the altar. and I guess that's good enough. Close enough. So I don't know. That's why I didn't care for final conflict. I was disappointed. Oh, well.

Damien played dirty, though, with that no, daddy, don't. Oh, yeah. That was rough. That's still, that's, after all the times I've seen it, that's still a rough watch. I can imagine. Yeah, it's, it's intense. It's an intense movie. Because he wasn't going to do it at first.

Because he was like, I can't do it. I can't do it. I won't do it. That's when he threw the knives before um, yeah, Dave, uh, Jennings got his head cut off. Because he was like, if you're not going to do it, I'm going to do it. And then, there it goes. Because I liked, uh, in the remake, he didn't get hit with glass. He got hit with, um, those little metal things on the side of the, the building.

It got knocked loose and then took his head off. Yeah, who wasn't in the remake? It was also another famous actor, right? Oh, yeah, I was thinking. that too. It was... It was... David... David... Dallas, okay.

Yeah, him. I mean, he's a character actor. Yeah, he's a character actor. Wasn't he in the Harry Potter? Harry Potter movies? He might have been. Wasn't he the werewolf in Harry Potter? I thought he was like the drunk uncle or something.

Junior Stiles what happened of her career? He missed Lupin. I just remember last dance But the remake was relatively recent, right? No, that was 2006. In your aging brain it is, Philip. That's relatively recent to me.

20 years ago? Damn. Relativity. Relativity. I know I've seen it. I just don't remember it. This one, on the other hand, is a classic. It is almost up there with the Exorcist. for me. Yeah, dude.

It's a really good movie. Like, even without seeing the graphic kills, which hit in a way that kills and movies didn't hit in that age, you know what I mean? And even without those, the whole premise of the thing was creepy as hell. And it worked through the whole thing. A lot of it was a score.

and a lot of it was that crazy-ass kid which they definitely cast correctly so I can't complain about that but yeah man they they did a really good job with this one and it's it's one of the all-time horror classics

like well I mean it is you think about like what what movies are horror You have to watch these movies, right? You got like The Exorcist, Evil Dead, The Omen. Nightmare on Elm Street.

Friday of the 13th. Well, right. Halloween. But then you're getting into like slasher movies. No, this is definitely a classic. I don't know. What is Lance trying to argue here? I know.

Nothing would surprise me to Lance anymore. I'm just offering some titles. This is a staple of scariest movies ever. Yes, legit scary. Not like all these Slash or film, people are there to laugh with them, you know, not this movie. Right. This is no Blumhouse picture,

is it, Pedro? Yeah. This is no night swim. Where are you going with that? I just bring it up different classic. Classic horror movies. Helping fill out the list. Well, see, I don't even know

if those fall in the same category. is as this, you know? But yeah, it was a fantastic movie, and I'm not going to give it a 10, but God damn it's pretty fucking close. It was a good movie. Okay.

Creepy as hell. I like it. Pedro went 8. Pedro 1 8 on 10. Did he? Do you remember that from the last time or what? No. Right now.

I said it right now. Oh, you already said it. rating before I was supposed to. All right. Yeah, let's go. All right. Pedro said eight. Eight on ten. Ness? Ten. Ten. Hell of good. Lance called that one.

This is hell good. I love it. Brian? Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Lance. It's eight. Eight on ten. Ooh. Hey, that's really fucking good for you.

It would have been nine, but he deducted a point because the kid wasn't in that pilgrim outfit any longer than I thought you was. Exactly. I'm going to give it a 9.25. Damn. Yeah, I think it is a horror classic. If you want to watch horror movies, this is one that you have to watch. It's on the list.

Oh, this is like right up your alley anyways. Well, yeah, that too. I like those religious horror movies. Matter of fact, when we get into the new one, I've got some Into the World Antichrist. theories to share Oh, nice! So that'll be fun. That kind of shit, dude. Yes.

All right. On to the new one. Let me pull my shit up here. The first Omen. What does any of this have to do with Carlita? Church has maintained power for thousands of years. It will stop with nothing to keep it that way. To rule people who no longer believe.

You create. Something to fear. I believe the girl is to be the mother. Mother of what? It's the mark of the devil. That's not real. This is not what I meant when I said. The first omen movie?

Yeah, the first, the first omen, the new one. From 2020. A young American woman is sent to Rome. to begin a life of service to the church, but encounters a darkness that causes her to question her faith and uncovers a terrifying conspiracy that hopes to bring about the birth of evil incarnate. Director is Arkasha Stevenson,

also known for the TV show Legion, and brand new cherry flavor. Right. Writers are Tim Smith, Keith Thomas, and Arcahia Stevenson. The first Omen was nearly given an NC-17 rating, largely for the disturbing birthing sequence. Well, that makes sense.

But after resubmitting the film in the MPA four times, with the problematic scene still included, with every resubmission, the MPA eventually relented when it was cut down from its original 133. 13 seconds to its final form receiving an R rating. It doesn't make any sense. Have the time these fucking old geysers don't even know what the fuck they're doing. MPA.

They should submit the same film exactly the same again. And they'll get a lower rating because sometimes like an ego thing, right? It's like, yeah, we have control over your film. So we're going to dictate how you have to rate it or whatever. And it's just a big game. So thankfully they got this through and, you know, we'll talk about it right now. All right, Pedro, what do you think about the first omen? All right.

So first of all, I enjoyed the film, but I could see it had problems. So this is not a hill I'm going to die on, okay? I'm not going to be a defender of the film. However, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was very gritty and dark for the times. Like, it's hard to get these kind of films in theaters nowadays. So I was very thankful for that. Like, again, we talked about earlier.

Like, this is not an IP that, like, well, it is a sequel, but it's a very, like, rated R sequel, which I like, you know? But some of the plot points were a little weird because Father Brennan. And this is not spoilers because we already talked about the first, or the original, this is going to get weird. The original, Omen. Father Brennan, in that movie, comes off as a Satanist who's still part of the conspiracy. In this movie, he turns up being to be the good guy who's trying to help.

What's the lead girl's name? Margaret. And so that's a little confusing because in the original one, Gregory Peck kicks him out of his office when he's trying to warn him about what's happening. And in this one, he's trying to help out Margaret. So he kind of rebells against the conspiracy with the church in this movie. So he's actually a good guy here. He's not a good guy in the original moment. Now, there's other things that bothered me.

They also change. And again, these are not spoilers. This is, well, I guess this is a spoiler. So maybe I shouldn't get into this yet. Is it big time, though, or just kind of a little finer? It's how the Antichrist came to be. I know what you're talking about. It's different than it was presented in the original omen.

True. They changed the sex. Yeah. Okay. So I won't get into it. But no, I thought it was good. I thought it was, the acting was decent. I think we all have immaculate and freshen our brain still, and we're like, you know,

comparing it to that just because it happens, right? We just watched it. But it's two different movies. I thought they were they were both very atmospheric. I think they were both shot in Italy, by the way, so that's cool. But I will say, and when we get into spoilers, I'll get into more details. This one gets a little sillier to the point where at the end I was like, come on, there's so many things that could have been different.

But I still had a good time with it. Especially at the end, you know, when you get those member-bearers, and, you know, it connects it to the original omen. Yeah. That was kind of cool. And so, and this is a prequel, so it's not really a spoiler. And yeah, and then I also like, one thing I appreciate about this film is that it left it open. Even when we already have Damien's entire trajectory already laid out from part one to three,

it did leave it open for a sequel, and I'm going to get into why and how and pretty interesting. when we're in the spoilers section. So all in all, I really enjoyed this movie. But I could see it had a lot of problems. And if people didn't enjoy it, I could understand why. So that's where I'm at with this movie. Principal photography took place in Rome. Yeah, that's cool.

There you go. Nez, what do you think? I'll go last. Oh, oh. Brian. I'm right there with Pedro. I really enjoyed this one. I do see the flaws in the movie.

There was some story changes in there that they threw in. One thing that really stuck out to me, I really enjoyed the performances of the cast, especially all the actresses. I thought they were great. Yeah, I'm trying to dance around spoilers here. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

I just kind of want to jump the spoiler. I mean, there's, yeah, Brian, you're right, there's a lot that happens early on, right? That's like key integral parts and story. Yeah. Well, and they kind of give a little bit of it away early on, but. I thought the direct. There is no kids with a little pilgrim outfit. That is a spoiler. No, there's not.

In case people, Mandela affect themselves into thinking there is. Right. I thought the opening scene was really great. Oh, I loved it. I was marking. Was that Bill Nahi? Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

The other. Oh, when you had Charles Dance in there with the... The Charles Dance, that's who I was talking about. That's who I meant. Oh, the stained glass. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

It really captured, like, the 70s exploitation film, huh? Like, that did, didn't it? Like, I was like, holy shit. They got it. Like, they got it pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, it was very believe. that this this took place

not too far but before the original movie so very believable I thought the the direction was good what go ahead I'm sorry now what you say

I said well well what they definitely definitely did not have disco music out in 1971 all right that that I know. I'm old enough to know that shit. You were in the discotheque,

Lance? Yes, yes. That was a weird scene. As Euro Trash. That was a super weird scene and super anachronistic like everything in there, the clothing, the music, absolutely nothing was 1971. That was late 70s.

What was the other movie that we watched where they took a nun to a nightclub? Ha ha! It sounds like the beginning of a joke. Well, she wasn't a nun yet. Oh, she wasn't? She hadn't taken her vows yet.

Oh, was that like a flashback? No, the... I was so right for she took her boughs, right? See, we're getting into spoilers. Yeah, we're... Okay, all right. We'll get into it, because I watched a shitty copy of this. Yeah, that was...

Lance, is the disco going to be like your Kong getting his two changed? Yes. Absolutely. No, the CGI fire scene. Well, am I going now? Yeah. I don't want to catch up. I keep, no, I keep dancing around.

I was about to spoil another scene, so. Okay, I'm going to, I'll start with that opening scene, the one you guys love so much. Made, it did not fucking fit in with the movie for me. Sorry, guys. Sorry. I couldn't figure out was that a time jump was that. What's going on here? Why are they have?

And I thought Charles Dance, he's a great actor. I was excited to hear he was going to be a big member of the cast here. I'm like, what the fuck? Really? And then they left it open where he could have shown up. But, okay, so that's enough of the opening scene. I don't want to get into spoilers, but that's literally the opening scene. And yeah, early on, it really doesn't, you know, I don't think it's going to spoil the story to say that they went to a disco

before they took their vows. And it was, they got an apparently, they had a time chicken. Apparently they got a hold of a time chicken from Ricky and Dismos. Danny because that wasn't 1971. Okay? The part that took me out was the scene you guys referred to earlier that was

like a pale imitation shadow of the way that the scene played out in the original 76 movie. And then on top of that, you've got to throw fucking crappy CG on fire. That's when I slowly started walking away from this movie mentally. That's the scene that broke.

All right, but what does fire look like when it sets everything? Let's find out. The Sosk sisters, remember, they said they used real fire. Well, I know. Not that last one. Fire does we. Oh, festival of a living dead. That's a bad example, Lance.

Okay. All right. Bad example. Rewind. When Jason is walking with the machete in the cornfield in Pretty versus Jason, that looks pretty badass. Yeah. That was real, wasn't it? Yeah, that's a guy.

That's the guy that took Kane Hodder's job saying, fuck it. Send me on fire and let's do it. Right. That's the way it should be done. Before all these damn... But this was pre-pacification of America, Pedro. I can't believe you remember. I don't mind.

How can you forget? All right, I don't want to say anymore. I'm going to start spoiling the hell out of this movie. Well, did you like anything about the movie? I did. I did. I thought it was masterpiece. filmed.

That's how it was... Well, you could have let off from that instead of the disco didn't happen at the right part of the decade. We can't all be... We can't all be circle jerking around. That song didn't come out until 1973.

Nerd! Maybe they found an underground club in Italy that was ahead of the curve, you know? Because all these trends, they have to start somewhere. I don't know what Italy's disco scene looked like in the

70s. Yeah, maybe the Americans are always 10 years behind the Italians. We don't know that. Sure. I think that's highly likely, actually. Punk was big over there before it got to us. Yeah, true. True, especially in the UK, right?

Yeah, I was going to say, I thought that started in the UK. Anyway, all right. Yeah. No, I thought it was, okay, look, beautifully filmed. They did a great job of making it look like the 70s, but like I said, then they had the inaccurisms there that took me out of it. Maybe if I'm fucking, so get off my lawn right now, aren't I? Like, totally showing my age here.

You know what? I hate Terminator Part 1 now, because when they go into the discotheque, that was like five years after I already had died. You're right. You're right. That wasn't just trying to kill this one. You never been to a dollar theater? No, just 80s rock and roll.

All right. not the way they were dancing in that old, yeah. All right. So, yes, like Brian said, the acting was definitely good, although they did kind of, to me, they kind of telegraphed some...

Should we do that one, Brian? Yeah, they did. I think they telegraphed some, some stuff that you probably shouldn't have known that person was going to end up being evil or whatever. The story itself, for me, was so incredibly convoluted. I'm just really torn on this.

like again i mean it was i don't hate that i went to see the theater but i just you know what i guess i was my expectations were high you know what i think i think you are comparing it to immaculate too much i think i am and the devil that was that was hell a devil conspiracy and i still am super excited about watching both of those but it's it's like pedro said they're two different movies yeah how about the devil conspiracy that was kind of the same thing but taking the DNA from the shrouded terrain

so are you comparing it to the devil conspiracy? Yes I am so this movie should be the score should be amazing when I hear your score we'll get there are we ready? We're ready for all right the first

omen I thought everybody in it was good they did their parts that Maria Cabal chick. I thought she was pretty hot. Little thick eyebrows. The main girl Margaret, I thought she was cute. Yeah. Okay. Because when they got all dressed...

You'll turn later on, but we'll get to it. Yeah. When she got all dressed up and they went to the discotheque. Oh, the one that was knocking down the shots? Yeah, her. Yeah, okay, I got you. The bad one. That was like you're really dressing like a nun now. Did they... Did they come to do that white? Well, never mind. We'll get into that. Sorry.

She was like if I got to hide this body I might as well enjoy it one last night That was her right before I have to hide in a penguin costume So but I liked what was going on I thought the score was good it did it did Jerry Goldsmith some justice When they did bring in some of his his music he wrote mainly towards the end I like I didn't really care so much for the jump scares this movie didn't need jump scares the the birthing scene that apparently he was making people throw up in the theater i'm like if you guys not seen other movies this was team this movie was pretty

tame but i mean i like the story i liked what was going on here i liked what they were trying to do but my big question to you guys is this the beginning of a new story or does this film supposed to tie into the 76 film? It's supposed to tie in. I mean, the ending is right there. We'll talk about it during spoilers, but there's a particular picture of a particular actor that it's obvious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's supposed to tie into 1976. Well, and then they even go on to make it further obvious, but we'll get into that. Yeah. Yeah, I think the end takes both directions. But there is a thread that's

never addressed in the previous omens movies that I thought was very clever because they could continue on with that platform. Yes, yes. Well, if this is supposed to tie into the original one, again, music, direction, acting, everything, cinematography was excellent. I loved everything about it.

But when it got to the end, I walked out of the theater thinking this movie was fucking horseshit. Because it did, it did. Did they not see the original film at all? Because what they changed, that was like, oh, really? That's what you're going to do? But that's what my question was, are they restarting this story? Because if that's what they're doing and they continue-

No, because they showed Gregory Peck's picture. Oh, oops. Well, that's not a spoiler. I mean, yes, it is. Not anymore because you said it. Because that was just like, oh, my God. I was like, really, that's what you're going to do? I mean, it was going good.

I liked what was happening. And I was like, okay, I know where it ends up, but let me see how it ends up. And then they show us what happens. And I was like, because when I walked out of the theater, I was just like, fuck this bullshit. And everyone else was like, oh, my God, this was awesome. It was like the best movie of the year. I was like, I don't know what you got just watched. I never talked when I come out of the movies out of respect for the people that are going in.

I was just I kept my mouth I have some questions about the end because I was just like oh okay whatever and I just walked out of the theater and immediately texted one of my boys because he he's not going to see this and I was like I don't I don't know what to try to do so I was disappointed with the ending

I mean I loved everything up to the reveal and then I went oh so but I mean again I mean I loved what was going on. I thought all the acting in it was was excellent. I mean, the story was right there. And I watch all these other reviewers on YouTube and all that. And they were all like praising this film. Oh, it's awesome. It's, it's even better than the other film. I'm like, wow. I don't about that. That's what I was saying. I was just like, that's what I'm like, are you going to continue this a different way? Are you giving us a new one? Or is this going to, I mean, obviously it does

tie and you already said it. But so I don't know. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't pleased with the way they ended it, because especially with Father Brennan, I went, really? And I was like, but I don't know. That was it for me. I mean, again, I loved it up to the end. All right. All right, let's go scores first. Pedro?

I'm going to give it a seven on ten. Seven. Right. Yeah, I agree. I thought the acting was pretty solid. and so is the direction. So seven. Makes sense.

Lance? I mean, I hate to do this again, but I got to go five. I mean, for me, it's like, it's like right in the middle. So this is, this movie is not as good as night swim? No, because it's less original. That was trash. It's less original. And they couldn't keep the timeline straight.

What? And like Nez said, that, dude, that ending is probably not. Don't even mention your shit. in the same sentence as night swim because you gave night swim a six right yes I would never forget that I'll never forget it either because I'll never live it down apparently but that's nothing compared to children of the corn we make how much you get back cemetery it was all over its nuts hard that pet cemetery we make was top 10 for the year.

Damn. That's right. Sure was. But as far as this movie, 5-1-10, it's like a tale of two movies for me. It's just weird. Doesn't know what it is. What's the word for it? Pedro, you're in the mental health business. What's the word?

It's a very, it's a friend of movie? It's a bipolar. Bipolar? That works too. It didn't know if there was distal take or not. It's something. all right uh i'm gonna go i think seven is is a pretty fair score i that's a preliminary score i'm gonna have to watch it again uh because i want to watch it again you got so much out of it like you should give it a 10 on 10 i'm gonna watch it again for sure uh when i can get a decent copy of it and uh it may go up yeah i'm it'll be on digital

end of the month. Yeah. That's a Disney property, isn't it? Yeah, it's a 20-century Studios. Oh. That's Disney, isn't it? Maybe they'll put on Hulu.

Fucking Disney. All right. I mean, like I said, I enjoyed what was going on up to the end, so I'll go up a little notch higher than Lance. I give it a six. No, six.

How bad. Seven, seven, seven, six, five. Okay. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. All right. Spoilers. Let's do it. Let me go first here because there's a lot to talk about here. Lots of unpack. First of all, I agree with Ness. I think I know what Ness is upset about.

So they changed the sex of the jackal. Originally, it was a female jackal, right? That's what they tell us in the original woman that birthed Damien Thorn. Now, in this one, yeah, you're right, Lance. The storyline is very convoluted because it was the daughter of Satan. They had to have sex or whatever. And then that offspring was,

was the Antichrist. However, Satan came in the form of a male jackal, which we see at the end of the movie Burning. So that's a big change from the original movie. So wait, was she the daughter of Satan? Yeah. Yes. Again, one of the weaknesses of this film is the way they present the story.

It's very convoluted. It doesn't even really make sense. So, originally... She was awarded the church, right? Her whole life. Yes. And so what happened was that Sain was trying to have a male offspring for the longest, and he couldn't. For whatever reason, he couldn't.

It was a bunch of females. And later on... Because you got to get in the back for the males. Just saying. So, you got to hit him in the back. That's where you get them. The red heifers. The red heifers.

So then, so they ended up coming up with this scheme. The church got together, which in itself is the whole fucking mess of a story. They got together and they were like, well, more people are leaving the church and the beliefs of the church. Like the church, the motivation of all this was because the church felt like there was people losing interest in the belief system of the church. So if they bring out the antichrist, it would bring everybody back, which is the most stupidest fucking mustache trolling reason to do all this. Which is exactly what's happening with this red heifer shit, because I'm telling there's like some super Christian groups that are helping these people do it. So here's my thinking. The Antichrist so that Christ can come back.

I'm telling you. Here's my thinking. So if that was the case, then you would see the church people kind of scared, even though they're succeeding in their conspiracy. So they would be good guys, right? Because they're playing with fire, right? They're playing with fire. so it would be like, oh my God, yeah, we're bringing in the Antichrist so people could come back and believe in God, which is the whole point, but now the anti-crisis lose. But that's not what happens.

They don't even follow their own rules because they're all like fully in their thumbs. Yeah, we're going to do this. So in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, maybe there's people in the church that were Satan is the whole time that are making us believe they're doing this for good. Right. But they're actually who believe that Satan is going to be the all-ruler. And they're using the fact that people are leaving the church as an excuse to do this within the church. So he's all fucked up. All right.

So once I heard that I was like, this shit's fucking stupid. There was this once. And then the whole switching the sex of the jackal, I don't know why they did that. If they wouldn't have done that, I guess for the end scene or I guess maybe this is dumb. Maybe because they couldn't show like a jackal having a baby. I don't know what the fuck. But they switched it to, they needed like a human carrier. And that's why that's what this is.

Listen, it's going to be way easier if we go. this route. Right. Now, okay, so that's that, right? They fucked up the motivation. It's all fucked up because it doesn't make any sense. The way they deliver this baby, it contradicts what's already said in the original omen.

And you can't even say, well, Father Brennan was wrong because he had bad information. No, because he's in it. He's right there. Like, it's not, you cannot reccom by saying that Father Brennan didn't have the correct information because he experienced it. So they fucked themselves there. It's hard to make sense of that. And then, as far as scenes,

like, remember when Margaret's about to give birth and her stomach, like, inflates, like, in seconds? But before that, she starts, like, jiving and, like, doing the robot and shit. That went on way too long. Like, it was, like, yo, like, I could feel the tension in my theaters, not because they were worried, scared,

not because they were invested in the story. They were like, yo, what's up with this fucking scene? Like, it literally went on for like a minute. Do you guys remember that scene? They went on forever. She's going to dance mode? Yes. And then, and then, like, she's fucking doing the robot,

like that girl in Friday of 13 Part 5 before Jason kills her and shit. And then they introduced these two guys, right? One of them is Father Brennan. And the other one is this young priest who literally has no purpose in the fucking movie. None. you could have edited a mouth. Oh, Gabriel, was it his name? He came out of nowhere.

He looked like one of the lead unsullied from Game of Thrones. That's what he reminded me of. I thought that, too. Big worm. Oh, no, little worm. No worm. Sure enough, none of them could use their dicks, so they did that. They did have that in common.

So you introduced this priest, this young guy, who like literally his only purpose there is to take Margaret away from the orphanage. That's literally his only purpose. And then he just dies in a random automobile accident. He's in McGuffin. Yes. Well, yeah. He's wasn't the old lady in imaginary who literally came to tell us all the rules and then get sucked up into the roof and we'll never see her again. Yeah. So then, so I didn't like that. You know what, Lance? I think I'm on your side now that I'm thinking about all this shit. Uh-oh. No, but I thought the end, I mean, I don't know the end. I don't work for me, although I understand why you're upset. I get it. I get it. It's

kind of hard to make sense of this, connecting it to the original. But I did like that they show the jackal dying, right? Because you needed to show that because they show him in the cemetery in the original. That was his mom in the original. That's what they said. And that's what they said in the book, too.

Yes, it wasn't his dad. It was his mom. And so, yeah, so those are my problems with it. Then they invest a lot of time in Maria Caborello's character, which is fine. I mean, she's, you know, nice on the eye. Yeah, that was weird, wasn't it? But then she vanishes for the longest. Yeah, she vanishes for the longest. And then she comes back as a, when she takes her vows, which I guess that's supposed to be kind of like your passage to becoming like a quote-unquote

saintness. And then all of a sudden, she's like a battle. Right. And then I guess my last question is, where the fuck are all these people in the original omen? Like, shouldn't they be trying to like, like none of them are ever heard from again? I know that a lot of them They did their part They did their part Well and No, this

The whole organization Is like that the The The, the, the, They're not Satanists. They're Christians that are trying to bring About the Antichrist So that they can

Bring Jesus back, right? Yes, but that's my point. They are saying this because they're way too happy To be doing that. They're never, They're never concerned That they're playing with fire. They're just happy that the,

that the son of Satan is coming here. So they are saying this. They're like, let's just fucking murder people. That was the organization of them. If you watch the TV show, they kind of, they went into more of that.

Oh, okay. They did more world building in that. Yeah, because that TV series erased Damien in the final conflict. But they're like, Mrs. Baylock, where she came from, she was one of them. And that's what this is what they were. I don't know if this.

if it was the beginning of this Oh, I never saw the TV show. Protect the Antichrist. Because that's what they were doing. So, I mean, I just, I was like, really? I mean, you fed this to me for how many years since 76? And now you're going to come in 2024 and change it on me? I was like, no.

I was like, no. I just didn't agree with it. I mean, and just reminded me if they ripped off Rosemary's baby when the demon was banging her at the end. I was like, oh, really? That was straight up Rosebair's baby, you're right. And I was mad, Charles Dance. I love him. Everything he pops up in there for like

two seconds and then they kill him. I was like, week. That just kind of reminded me of Father Brennan's death when he was standing out in front of that church and he got impaled. But in the remake, he got impaled as well as the glass hitting him face. Yeah, well, that's supposed to be a wing, wink, because Father Brennan is right there in the first scene of the

first one. Yeah, of course. Yeah. There are a lot of wink-winks. Now, Father Brennan's character is a whole different character. Yeah. Because here he's a good guy trying to get, trying to help Margaret get away. But in the original, man, he was part of the conspiracy. So, like, I don't understand that. That's the thing that kind of tripped me out a little bit.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Because they were saying that all the ones that were born with the number of the beast on them were the ones, because they were trying to basically do what they were doing in Alien Reservoir. making trying to reproduce Ripley. I mean, because they could, when they go down in the basement and you see all these, or little those are the pictures. When she finds all the pictures of the,

the ones that died that were all deformed and everything. I was like, that's alien resurrection. And then, because they were saying that they were all female, but I was like, well, if you're going to go with the original story, Father Brennan was one of those dudes. He had the mark of the beast on him. And so did that, uh, that Paulo dude. Because he was the one before, right before he got hit by that truck or whatever.

He told Margaret, he was like, look in the hair because he had the Mark of the Beast too. And then I'm like, well, you had two, you had two mailed. Why couldn't you get them to do it if you're, if that's what you were looking for. But I don't know. I was like, hmm, okay. But I don't know. I just, I just didn't. I just did not buy the end.

And Father Brennan in the original in the first one, he said he was there and he saw Damien's mother. And I was like, wait a minute. That's a good point I was like I mean that's why I just left the theater man It's a liar like Yoda with with with uh With Luke Well he was there when that happened

I was I was just mad like that they changed it I mean those are probably the main two things The father Brennan stuff and The uh Damien not being born of a jackal And then if you're gonna yeah first that's why I asked If uh they were gonna restart this thing but then you brought up they yeah they remember them showing a picture of uh gregory peck yeah because they're going to the hospital

to kill his baby and give him and i mean it's not unheard of to change the story to make it more scarier or whatever you know what the other ones were scary enough no i'm not buying that's that's why i was so mad i was like i was like hell no but i loved everything up all right to that point. Well, but I'm just saying it, this was like the actual story that happened. And then they just said it like. So Father Brennan was lame? No. Yeah. See, that doesn't make sense. Because the narrator in the original Omen was reliable because it was Father Brennan. Why would he lie to Robert Thorne? But now all of us. Maybe he saw, maybe what he saw is not what he really seen. But he wasn't even there when the, when Damien was born. I mean, what? Brian just said makes more sense than anything I've heard yet. It's like something to make it appear more menacing than it actually is.

Nah, it was fine the way it was. No, I'm not. You can offer me millions of dollars. I'll say, nope, that's not what happened. Yeah. Let me say this, Lance, really quick before we move on. So one of the cool things that I did, like a positive, is that they introduced this twin, right? the girl version of Damien.

And that was clever because there's no way to go with Damien because all his story has already been laid out in the sequels. And that's where I have questions. So with this twin, if you wanted to make a sequel to the first Stolman, obviously you can't touch Damien because he already has his movies. But you could maybe have this cult or this, whatever they are, Satanus, try to hunt down Margaret with the twin's daughter. So you could go that route.

They're going to go the Hannah. They're going to go the Hannah route then, huh? They're out hiding her in the middle of the woods. Yes, well, that's what happens at the end of the movie anyway. I'd rather see that. I'd like to see that. So I thought that was pretty clever because they left it open for a sequel just from the first old man if you just focus on the twin daughter and all these fucking Satan is going after

her, you know? And Damon doesn't even have to be in the movie. If they just go with his parents. Yeah, if they go. go with those two, the Margaret and the girl, that's fine. I'll be happy I'll watch all those movies and enjoy him, but I just didn't like what they did.

Because the how old was Damien in the first one? He was a newborn. Like, no, when he, when everything went haywire, when he was standing in his little Angus Young suit, what was he like, five, six, maybe?

So this was still a few years before that. Because in the original one, if you guys remember, other than Father Brandon, handle the mark of the beast, he was dying anyway, because he had cancer.

They said he was, his body was riddled with cancer, so he was dying. He was going to die regardless. He was headed out. Yeah, so. One of the things that always bothered me about the original omen

is that David Warner has all these fucking pictures that he couldn't have possibly taken. Like, remember, like, in front of the 13th, part five, when the ambulance driver has a picture of Jason and like,

How the fuck, who took that? Nobody could ever take that picture of Jason. I didn't know that. He's got this perfect picture of Father Brennan fucking impaled with that pole, like a selfie and shit. I'm like, you couldn't get that picture, bro. What the fuck? And then he also has like autopsy photos.

Like he's just a photographer. Like he's like his hobby. He doesn't have any connections to the corner or anything like that. So anyways, that was bullshit. But it's funny. In the 70s. Well, look, that's enough. about it.

3 9-11, you can go anywhere and do anything. Yeah, you can smoke on the airplane. Yeah, we have been able to some... Let's move along to some wrestling talk before we lined out. Is there any burning last minute? I'm going to give the rating for this movie? Didn't we? Do what?

Do we already gave the rating? Yeah, we did. For the red hafer? I can give it. A six. All right. That's still one. I'm going to watch it again.

I'm watching it again. Not in the theater, but I'll watch it again. I just didn't like the changes they did at the end. You fed me this shit for 50 years, and now you're going to change? No. I can't. No, hell no. All right.

So much like the pay-per-view, the WWF paper views of old, Lance is looking at the clock and saying we're running out of satellite time here. We better get me the fuck up and get through these matches. All right. So yes, my cool of the week, as was a lot of people's cool of the week this weekend, was just embedding yourself in a shitload of wrestling. I'm not just talking about WWE because there was a lot of wrestling this weekend. And it's like the weekend where it's like a complete celebration for professional wrestling, not just, not just WWB, but the entire industry. I've been to a lot of these lives, and they're always fun because you go to the conventions, you go to the independent shows, a lot of these other companies run shows, and then you,

then you top it off with the main course, which is WrestleMania, which is always cool. Lots of good stuff. It seems to me that now, like, wrestling is, like, really hot right now, like, really popular, like attitude era popular, maybe even more. And so they actually have a direction, which is cool. They have, out of this weekend,

you could book, like, another year worth of matches and get to next WrestleMania, easy, you know? So I'm excited for that. And it was a good weekend to just, I think this is the best WrestleMania of all time, legit. I don't know if Brian and Ness agree with me, but I thought it was the best one ever. I would have to really think about it to see if it is the best

one ever, but it's been one of the best in a long time. Yeah, I mean, 17 has grown into like this mythical proportions. Like, it'll never be beat. 17 had Austin and the Rock. It had Beno and Angle. It had Undertaker in Triple H. It had Vince versus Shane McMahon. That WrestleMania has got into the lore as the greatest of all time.

And it was at the Astrodome, which was a big deal at the time. And there's been other good ones. Like 10 was really good, 19, 31, you know, all these. But to me, this one, obviously from like a financial perspective, it was the best one ever because they broke all those records. What were the big matches in this one? this one had Cody versus

well it had two of them it had the tag night one was a tag match with the rock which already you know if the rocks involved is going to attract all kinds of other media right and it had the rock teaming with with Roman Reigns which is his cousin

against Cody and Seth Rollins which Cody is it really his cousin yeah I had no idea no it is his cousin yeah yeah they're all there are all these Sam Moans they're all cousins so yes except for Samoa Joe.

They don't welcome him to the family. So anyways. They put a curse on his family a long time ago. So the wrong comes back. Now, it's interesting how this happened because originally it was supposed to be Cody versus Roman, right? They had been building that match for a year since last year in L.A. when Cody lost.

and everybody thought that was a big deal because they were like, there's no way this guy could stay as popular as he is. He just lost. He's a choke artist. But lo and behold, he was even bigger a year later as he's trying to fucking climb this Mount Everest

and finally get the brass ring. So he does that, right? But around January, the rock comes around. And the rock's like, I want to wrestle Roman rains. Now, behind the scenes politically, and tomorrow there's actually a documentary that's going to drop on YouTube

that every wrestling fan should watch because they're going to get into, to details about this. So the Rock is like, you know what? I'm just going to wrestle Roman because I'm the Rock. I'm in the board of directors now. I'm damn near run this place.

I'm going to wrestle. Final boss. Yeah, I'm going to wrestle Roman reigns. So think about it like this. The wrestling fans have stayed with Cody all the way through the buildup, right? The hero's journey. He falls. He gets up. He falls he gets up. He wins the Royal

Rumble, which allows him the right to go to WrestleMania and challenge for the title. All of a sudden on a random Smackdown, which made no sense to anyone. Cody just comes out and says, I give you the right to challenge Roman at WrestleMania. Now, nobody, nobody at that time understood the backlash that I was going to have because the rock felt like he's beloved, right? He's the rock.

But no, it's like there was this big uproar online. Like, everybody started like, they had those fucking hashtags. We want Cody, Cody, whatever. Cody, cry babies? No, that was later. So the Rock, so they were just going to say, fuck it, because they've done that in the past. They did it with Daniel Bryan when he was really popular about 10 years ago. WW is like, you're not going to dictate our storylines.

You're going to eat whatever we feed you. That's how it's been a lot of their mentality. But the Rock goes up to Triple Age and this is all going on behind the scenes. And he's like, no, you know what? I think I want to be a heel in this run. Because there's a big uproar. I want to embrace that heel. So then they switch.

So then in the middle of this buildup, they introduce Seth Rollins into the match because he had nothing to do because he was supposed to wrestle CM Punk at WrestleMania, but he got hurt. So CM Punk blows out his arm or some shit. So all of a sudden it's Seth Rollins and Cody Rhodes against Roman Reigns and the Rock. Now, it gets a little muddy because you have to reckon

the fact that Cody just gave him the shot. He gave the Rock the shot. But somehow they went to Vegas and they had this press conference and then the rock started talking shit about Cody's family or vice versa. I forget. And then the rock slaps Cody and all of a sudden that's your bill. So all of a sudden as this is happening, the arena ticket sales are getting out of control. They're sellout after salad out after sell out. And you start to see these guys on like the Tonight Show. It's becoming a thing, right? This bubble is getting. bigger and bigger. As this whole time is happening, Vince McMahon gets caught being a fucking purve and just being a horrible human being. What did he do? He's shitting on girls. Yes. So he was, they want to get him for like sex trafficking. So he had this girl that he was dating or quote unquote dating. And well, you could say she was, you know, it was voluntary. But then he started really abusing her and manipulating her to the point where he was passing her around to other people for

favors, you know? And there's text messages that prove this. So he's fucked regardless. And then it gets very dark because these text messages, there's a lot of, like, racist talks on there. There's a lot of, like, like, as was saying, he shits on her head while they're having sex. Like, there's all, it's bad. It's horrible. Was JBL involved in all that? No. Probably. I mean, I'm, I don't know. I don't know the guy personally, but there's nothing, there's nothing, the only one that was, the only one that came out was Brock Lesner because Vince Who's the one guy

that I think he's named too Nick Con No, the guy that was that's close to Vince, they used to be General Man. Oh, John Laurinitis. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, yeah. He's named. So this is where it gets very disgusting and just

very sick, okay? So there is proof that John Laurinitis sexually abused this girl in Vince's office and Vince knew. It was just the game that they were playing with this poor girl. So it's all logged on the text messages. So the TKO fires Vince.

Vince is gone forever. And that's the reason why you're hearing this new era, Triple H era, because they want you to think, I mean, it is his era. He's now in charge, but they also want you to get that Vince McMahon stank out of your mouth and move on.

That's why they're doing all this. Well, but he still owns it, correct? No, he doesn't. Not anymore. He got kicked out, right? Yeah, he merged it with TKO. So TKO, which is, which is, and what TKO is spawned from a company called Endeavor, which is owned Ari Emanuel, who owned UFC.

And they merged with the WWE, and they created a new company called TKO, which is UFC and WWE. And Vince ended up agreeing to be on the board of directors, but he was no longer the shot caller. Ari Amani is a shot caller. So once this whole thing came out, they fired him or they, if you kid, they didn't really fire him. They just released him. He's no longer, and right now, he's selling all his stock. So he's pretty much cashy now. So he's done. Um, he's still a billionaire, though. Don't get me wrong. All those stock is worth a lot of money. And, and so now he's going to go to

trial. So we'll see what happens with Vince McMahon. He could either go to prison or who knows. You know, these fucking rich guys tends to get off with a lot of shit. So, um, so yeah, so this whole buildup, just, it all just fucking, the, the big buildup ended, list, past weekend, April 6, April 7th. And it was kind of a big deal. And the show delivered. Cody Rhodes finally dethrone Roman Raines, who was the world champion for four years since 2020. And Cody Rhodes had this entire storyline of him trying to finish his story because

his dad, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes, never won the world title. Even though he did beat superstar Billy Graham once at Madison Square Garden, but they took the title away from him on a technicality. Um, dusty, I mean, Cody wanted to do what his dad couldn't. And that was his story. And, and the reason he came back to the WWE was to finish that story. And that was the whole thing that was going on for the last two years. And finally at WrestleMania night, too, he does it. And it became a big deal. So wrestling feels hot right now. Um, and there's other drama going on with like CM Punk that I'm not going to get into. But there's a lot of shit going on with wrestling right now. And so that was my cool of the week. It was a fun time to be a fan. I probably watched like 20 shows in like fucking like five days from Ring of Honor to Bloodsport, AW, WWE. That was a lot of shit going on. So yeah,

I was awesome. Remember, Pedro, remember when I asked you, this was before CM Punk came out, I asked you would Punk come back to WWE and you said no? Yes. Well, that was a surprise for everyone. Oh, yeah,

it was. I mean, how did you feel when, when he's media? music hit. I mean, I've never, I've never been a big fan of the guy, but it was fun. I mean, it was exciting. It was new. You never thought you were going to see it again, just because CM Punk left on such bad terms from the WWB back in 2014. But CM Punk also left on bad turns with Tony Khan, who owns AEW. So, I don't know. I mean, hopefully now, it seems like CM Punk just likes to be surrounded

around drama. He loves drama, and he creates it. And then he very at times, like, I think in a very cowardly way, just like, well, I was in my fault. But then you have this history of every time you start shit, and then you just blame everyone else. You know, like, eventually you have to look yourself in the mirror and say, how am I contributing to all this shit? Not that everything's been his fault, but now lately, he went on on Ariel Hawani's show and he buried Tony Khan,

saying Tony Khan doesn't know how to be a boss, which has been a criticism for a long time of Tony Khan. and now Tony Con on tomorrow Wednesday's show he's going to show the footage that got him fired which is like a backstage bra with Jack Perry the Jungle Boy which is Luke Perry's son by the way Oh Was that that MMA hour?

Yeah, Eminemay hour with Ariel Hawani Okay, yeah, I listened to it Well, I think I got a few more minutes But yeah, he went on there and just He was talking hell of shit But there was a lot of stuff That was another cloud that was all over WrestleMania weekend.

people were talking about all that shit as well. Because he was saying there was a lot of stuff he couldn't talk about because of the court stuff. Yeah, the NDA. They signed an NDA. But there's stuff that he did talk about. Because he said that he never punched out Jack Perry. He just, he said, according to him, he just choked him a little bit, whatever that means. And then now they're going to release the footage, the backstage footage of what really happened.

So I'm thinking that the only reason they're going to do that, well, first of all, the ratings ploy, which is whatever. but second of all I would like to think that it's going to contradict what Punk said because then they wouldn't shown it so I think that's going to make Punk come off as a liar maybe he was very violent maybe there's a lot of things that we'll see in that footage

that make him come off bad you know so we'll see do you think it's going to be edited footage or is it going to be I think Tony Kong would take a lot of heat if it was edited I think I think it's going to be legit now how much he shows this I don't know maybe he'll show

a couple seconds maybe he all he said is that he's gonna show footage he didn't say how long he didn't say what he just said a couple but but but but if this doctor in any way i think he'll take a lot of heat for that so i don't think he's gonna do that is this security footage or his cameras no it's security footage okay from from webley wembley when all that shit went down yeah yeah so that's gonna be interesting and what was your thoughts on um drew drew mackintyre having the belt for five minutes i think it all it puts it gets a more over as a heel which is what they want i think drew really played his cards right and i think after all these changes the you know set i'm seeing punk getting hurt and no longer being able to wrestle set all the switches with the

rock heel baby face i think the biggest winner was drew mccentire because going into the original no WrestleMania plans. He didn't really have a direction. I think they were probably going to put him with Sammy Zane because that was the match they were building up. Because remember, Gunther was going to originally wrestle Brock. And then Brock, they let him go because of the texting thing with Vince. So once Sammy was put in Gunther and Brock Spot, that left Seth with no one.

But then once CM Punk got hurt, they put him with Seth and then he got the title. But I think once they announced that show in his home. town, which is, what is it the, whatever, the bra in the castle or whatever they call that show, which is going to be in Scotland in a couple months. I think that's when he's going to get the real title run. So it just builds up anticipation for him. It builds up, and it's a good move for him because it builds up. It gets him over as a heel because he's going to get to complain more, but it also just builds

that anticipation for him to finally win the title at his hometown, you know? Did you see that picture of his family flipping off the stage? But I think that was all show. I think that guarantee you they went back in. I mean, I felt for him. I mean, I was like, all right, cool. I liked Drew McIntyre. I liked him when he was in the 3MB with that stupid shit.

But that's all I think of when I see him. I mean, but I'm glad that he's back. He went through a lot. Yeah, yeah, no, he's bad. He's one of the best guys they have. I mean, yeah, that's why I love to be because, I mean, he was there. And he was kind of like, yeah, that's just Drew McIntyre. you didn't really think much of him but then even since he came back revamped his look and got

he'll ripped i mean i love uh what he's doing now i mean uh damien priest i totally forgot he had the the money in the bank but that even but that even gets him more popular right it gets him more over too because now he's a big star so it's all about trying to make the biggest stars out of everyone as you possibly can without hurting anyone and and i think triple h is doing a good job of doing that. Was Seth really hurt? Was Seth really hurt? Because he didn't look like he could barely walk. Oh yeah. Yeah, he's going to be gone for about a month. So he, yeah, he needs to rest up. It's not serious, but he is hurt. Because he looked beat up and then after the shield stuff at the end, they had to help him up and get him out of there. And he legit looked like he couldn't, he couldn't

walk. Yeah, no, no, I think he was really hurt. Yeah, he got through it. Because even the match with Seth was like a short match. It wasn't long. Yeah, that one, that one flew by. But I like that, though, because he should have been hurt because he had a match the night before. So it shouldn't have been this back and forth high spot, you know, it should have been with exactly what it was. It was perfect. Yeah. I had fun with all of it. So, but listen to the... They didn't announce where they're going to be at next year, though. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I thought it was Vegas.

I hear Vegas and Minneapolis. Did they usually do that? Yeah, they usually do it. the show before so they should have announced it during WrestleMania. Maybe it's going to be a big surprise. Yeah, but you need to, people need to, this is like a vacation destination. People need to, they need about a year to plan all this shit out. Like touring with a grateful dad, right?

Because I have, 971 though, because they didn't exist yet. That's right. Because I saw articles that was Vegas, but I guess I prefer Vegas, it's closer. you what are the chances you think it's going to be out of the country uh not here's the thing why would that's a lot of overhead of expense like if you could draw the same or more money in the united states you just stay in the united states you know but they also want the like the international

countries to pay for the show and like places like france they're like we don't have to pay where our tourism's already pretty good we don't need you guys so so they have like that disconnect right now, you know? Right. They want these countries to pay them to go put a show there because they bring a lot of tourism to whenever they run shows. And a lot of these big countries, they're like, well, we already have tourism. We don't, it's not going to make that much of a difference.

Except for Saudi Arabia, which pays them like 40 million per show. But that, they've been doing that with all kinds of sports. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The golf and all that. Are we getting another greatest world rumble?

We just had the one. No, no, I think that was a one-time thing, and they just, and I'm glad because they need to protect that gimmick. That match is always exciting because they don't abuse it. You get it once a year, and then you have to wait another year for another one. And that's why it's always, it stays over as a match. You know, like the steel cage match used to be a big deal, but you see it every Monday night, all of a sudden, not a big deal anymore. Whereas the Royal Rumble, it's like, wow, you know, you get it once a year and that's it.

So you don't want to abuse it. All right. you guys had to get some wrestling in so um you guys uh nez you get a ton hell of episodes coming out of that right you and brian we put one out already we got another one coming and then go over to uh our spot of east society spotify feed uh taylor and i did a uh commentary for the latter match that happened uh on saturday night so we ran through that and just my grandsons were watching it and they were wrestling they had the little pillow wrestling ring right there so you hear them throughout that's the whole time so but they were in they were all

into it they were watching wrestling and fighting each other so all right well yeah there there was a couple you guys um well lands you're not you're not in texas anymore but dallas's got a couple of um pretty like one almost right behind the other because they got one in 2016 and they had another one in 22 so that was pretty cool they were at the cowboy stadium and there was something here in tampa couple of months ago, right? Oh, yeah, they're always in Florida. They're always in Florida, and they had a Tampa WrestleMania in 2021.

I was there for that one. That was a big deal because that was the first time they had to come back after the pandemic. So they were like, they were fan. Yeah. So they ran about a year and a half without no fans in the arenas, which was fucking awkward. But I got to do it. Yeah.

I remember that. That was weird. Yeah, yeah. I mean, every sport did that, which was boring as fuck, because you need fans. Sure. But yeah, that WrestleMania in Tampa was the first one where they came back, so they made a big deal out of that. But yeah, they're going to go to all these big cities, you know? So if they come to a city near you, you should check it out because WrestleMania is special, man.

It's a spectacle. Even if you don't really like wrestling, you're going to get sucked into the atmosphere, which is fun. Cool. Are you a micro wrestling fan? No. Micro, is it the midgets? Little people. So we had red happers and midges tonight.

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