The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #412: Psychological Horror Part 4 - Gone Girl (2014) & The Girl On The Train (2016)

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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I'm Lance. With me, as always, we got Brian from Alaska. You know him as the Alaskan Barry White. What's going on, Brian? Same shit, different day. I hear that, man. That's a common refrain. Weather, weather's getting nice, though. Yeah.

It's about that time for us. Springtime in Alaska. Kind of like springtime for Hitler, right? What? Is that reference to something? Yeah. What was that Mel Brooks movie? Oh, okay.

They were making the musical called Springtime. It's a musical. Brian Wood would be into it. I was going to say, that's got to be a fucking movie or something. Is it called the producers, or am I thinking of a different movie? I've never seen that. All right. And we got Philip in the house from the island of Galveston,

thousands of miles away from civilization, with nothing but coconuts to bang together. To get Wi-Fi. G-Town, right? Is that what they call it? Yeah. I don't know. Everybody calls their town, whatever the letter starts with, town.

Yeah. I just watched a documentary about a rapper from Galveston. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I imagine they got a few of them. It's called the Dirty Coast, right? I tell you, man. There's something like that.

Downtown's happening. We're way down on the end of the island. that nobody knows exists. I think everybody knows where Galveston is. After all, we saw that beautiful shot of it at the end of the Blake lively movie, shark movie, right? Oh, so true, yeah.

Gorgeous sands of Galveston. The water was so clear. I know. It does get clear maybe two or three days out of the year. Maybe, if you're lucky. That was one of the days she filmed there. I guess so. That's it.

But we, yeah, we drove down to Cocoa Beach Sunday, and it's, it's beautiful. East Coast, so it's rougher water. Philip, you got to come out here and bring your surfboard, dude. Everybody's surfing out here. I might be too fat for it. Now, I'm going to have to lose a little weight. If Mel Gibson can do it, you can do it. Come on, that's, man.

How was your birthday, Philip? Oh, happy birthday. I forgot to tell you. Yeah, I appreciate it, man. No, it was great. I didn't fucking touch. the phone. I just slept in late, got

up, went and shot some guns. All right. Back home. Then we had a baseball game. Oh, yeah. I can't forget that. Did you show up sober to the baseball game? Yeah, mostly. Wow. Okay. Close enough.

All right, what's... We won. I can't... It's all I can say. What's your cool of the week, Phil? So, all right, my cool of the week, I've actually got a few of them this week. Okay. So we'll sort of go with the theme of the show a little bit for one of them, which is what is it?

What Jennifer did, I think, is the name of the thing. It's a limited series on Netflix. Oh, I think I've heard of it. Yeah. They, kind of a terrible name for the show, because they sort of give it away. But it is kind of a murder. mystery thing and it was it was pretty fun one of those true crime things was it a show show or was

it like a docu series no it was like a docu series okay yeah um but it was pretty interesting and a little twisted and crazy uh like that and then uh went over to amazon prime and checked out uh the new roadhouse oh it went key west huh yeah it was it was a lot i mean it was a lot of fun Yeah, a little over the top, maybe. Oh, yeah. I mean, this movie's not winning any awards. You don't think so? No, and I'm going to forget about it a year from now,

but it was fun for what it was, and they obviously knew what it was and had fun with it, you know? Like, all of the actors were kind of terrible, except Jake Gyllenhaal. And what's his nut? Connor McGregor comes in. He's kind of great. yeah look dude when you get knocked out of a boat and like you go fall like 12 stories and land of concrete and then get up out of the hospital at the end and punch somebody or whatever

that's a real man yeah and Jake gillenhall is a total badass in this movie and I love it he's also a bit of a psycho in that movie yeah he is a little bit I mean, he is the hero of the story, but if you, like, really take a look at it, he's a little nutty in the head. Well, the hero's out of getting, always especially that hero, because it's kind of an anti-hero, right?

He has to have a dark match story, and so they gave him one, and it's simple and straightforward and fun. There's no twists in this movie. Do you, do you guys, you guys think they're going to maybe do a sequel, but featuring McGregor,

wouldn't that be cool? I think it'd be cool. I'm going to say there is a sequel, and it will bring back McGregor, but I don't think. I think they'll bring back Jake Gyllenhaal because I've seen interviews and he sounded like he had a blast.

Yeah? Oh, I'm sure. How could he not, right? I'd watch a sequel for this movie. It's more fun than the Expendables movies for me. True. Yeah, true. Those, I couldn't really

get behind them. Um, and then, uh, my real cool of the week, also on Amazon Prime, the Fallout series. Oh, I hear nothing but great. Dude, it is so good. It is so good. And they, they stick a lot of game stuff in there. Yeah, it's really entertaining. It's, uh, it's, it's got some funny moments, some awesome, Walt and Goggins is fucking spectacular in this. Oh, yeah. He always is. It's, it's, it's, I, I'm super excited about it. Like, I'm ready to watch it again right now. So it is for sure my cool, cool of the week.

Nice. But I had fun. You're going to repeat it, Brian? Yeah, I only got two things. First, I'm not going to really talk about it much because I think Ness said he wanted to do a quick review on it for the network. And that's the Soska Sisters Festival of the Living Dead. Festival of the Living Dead. Okay.

So, we'll be on the lookout for a review of that coming. But, yeah, my cool of the week is the same as Phil, Fallout. That first episode just completely sucked me in. Yeah. Like, I didn't want to stop watching it. I stayed up to like 3 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, that opening 10 minutes of episode one, I was just, I was blown away.

Just, and then, and then the aesthetic of, it's 2007 when that event happens but everything is kind of like retro 50s yeah oh wow okay yeah it's very much like the video game yeah and then i agree walton guggins as the ghoul mm-hmm the ghoul top notch that seems amazing yeah in the game there's so i guess the basic backstory is there's a nuclear bomb that takes place. It looks like it's in the 50s, but it's actually way into the future. Yeah. But they have, there's some fallout shelters in the vaults, right? So it's the fallout shelters for the for the rich people and the scientists and all that stuff. And so they go on living, but there's still people on the surface and some of them live through it. And this is like

200 years later. And, yeah, you get people with, like, extreme radiation poisoning, and they're basically walking zombies. So they're the ghouls. Pieces falling off? Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Gaggans is missing a nose in this one.

Yeah. He's like an old school cowboy, dude. It's awesome. That's pretty cool. Is he a good guy or a bad guy? Or is he yet to be determined? He's kind of a bad. guy, but maybe kind of a good guy.

Yeah, I mean, they're kind of alluding to his backstory. Maybe he has a reason to be the way he is. He's the black hat, for sure. Gotcha. Yeah, I definitely have to go with fallout as my pool week and going to continue it after we've done recording. Nice. I've got three episodes last. Philip on three body problem.

Oh, yeah? So, yeah, I'm going to wrap those up, and then I'm going to dive into fallout, too, guys. Yeah. Too many good things. The only issue I had with three body problem is where it ended. I kind of wanted it to keep going. But they've already got a season two coming based on the second book in the series.

So all will be revealed, right? I guess so. All right, I got two cools of the week. Because I got to give a shout out. we got a screener for a brand new 2024 movie called Bag of Lies. You guys heard about this one? I've been seeing people post about it,

but I have no idea what the movie's about. Yeah, it's written and directed by David Andrew James. I don't think he's really done too much except short so far. So maybe this will jettison them out. It's a classic monkey pause tale where, you know, be careful what you wish for. But in a nutshell, this guy's wife has terminal cancer. And he meets up with a buddy at the bar that says, you know,

hey, I've got an idea. I've had a friend that did this. I understand if you take this bag and you set it in a room by itself, don't look at it, don't talk to it, and don't interact with it. Just like set it down and walk away. And then, you know, kind of like pray or wish or whatever for your wife to be good. She'll be fine and there'll be no problems. so he's

he fucks up twice he leaves the bag and the room the first thing he does is that he talks to it he sits down and he goes oh bag

please bring my wife back and I'm thinking you fucking idiot and then the next thing he does he leaves the garage and then he drops something on the way out

so he's like doing this and he opens his eye just a little and sees the bag so you know bad things are going to happen oh yeah but it's pretty cool

the way they set it up I'm really surprised for an indie movie that that this was a lot of fun to watch. You had a lot of twist in terms and like characters. Like, is that person really there? Are they not there?

It kind of plays with your expectations of reality. So it's available for purchase like everywhere now. I know Apple, Amazon and all that. So, you know, if you want a 2024 movie, you can do a lot worse than Bag of Lies. Check it out. My other cool of the week is not as good as I was hoping it would be, but still a Garland movie.

You know what I'm talking about, Philip, right? Huh? Oh, you thought I'm at literal Garland. I was like, are we doing the Christmas movies already? Jesus. Yes, but AJ around, we probably will be. Have you guys seen Civil War yet? No.

I haven't seen it in the theater, but I've seen that it's available. Really? It is. It's not what I was expecting. If you're looking for like an over-the-top, balk, balk on the head, political message from one side to the other, you need to go watch something else because it doesn't really do that.

I heard they played it safe in this movie. They played it very safe. Well, the idea they had Philip was perfect. Because instead of focusing on protagonists that are like on one side of the other, they focus on war correspondents, journalists, right?

Okay. So Kirsten Dunst is in there. I guess her real life husband is Fat Damon, right? That was my question. The true question of your little review of Civil War was, how was Fat Damon? He was fucking phenomenal. I just keep seeing pictures of him with these stylish, pink, red glasses on. He completely stole the movie.

I mean, he was only in it, maybe eight minutes. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. It was a small vignette, kind of almost toward the end of the movie that he was in. But boy, did he chew up that scenery. Is Kristen Dutz in it more? She's in a lot. She's the main star,

and then there's two people that I didn't really recognize that much. Like, they're getting a lot of new, you know, new people in here. I wonder if she got him the cameo in the movie. I would imagine so,

you know? Since he's, I mean, he's a great actor for you to say he was just basically a cameo. Yeah, it was a pretty short sequence, but,

you know, We've been making fun of him for like six years. Yeah. But he is a great actor. He is, man. He surprised me and some stuff. I think he impressed me in that Black Mirror episode where he basically fantasized about me and Captain Kirk.

Yeah. Oh, did you hear the next season of Black Mirror? They're doing a sequel to that episode? Oh, that's awesome. The only thing that'd be better than that, Brian, is if they did a musical episode. I think I could be wrong, but I think I did read to doing a musical episode. You're kidding me.

Not of that, but everybody else does. Yes, everybody else does. So look, without spoiling or giving too much way, it's, I mean, yeah, there's some things I could say that would spoil it that I don't want to talk about until everybody's seen it. So I don't think it's, again, I don't think it's trying to take a political side, which is awesome. It's great that they're staying like in the middle, like journalist, you know. But I think it's just saying, I don't know, it's kind of maybe a message like, you know, America snap out of it. You guys aren't that fucking bad off. Quit bickering about petty shit.

Yeah. And focus on real issues. And then I think the other thing it's saying is that war is fucking hell. I mean, it's nobody knew who was fighting who and why. But in certain battle scenes, they're just like they come up across two people that are, that have their rifles and their sights. And there's a sniper up in a house real far away across the field. And he keeps shooting at them, and they're shooting at him.

And they come in, the journalists ask him, whose side are y'all on? They said, all we know is he's trying to kill us, and we're trying to kill him. And then that was a great scene, actually. What's that? How else would you know? It's also bloody as hell, man.

It's far and away his bloodiest movie that he's ever done. So, yeah, it's brutal. I heard it's A-24's most expensive movie. I believe it. I believe it. I think cast alone. I also heard he's, special effects were great. I also heard he's quitting directing movies.

Really? What's he going to do, right? Well, we'll talk about him in news, but. All right. I think I read he kind of. just being in the industry just kind of made him not want to make movies or something. I don't know. Maybe I'm talking about somebody else, but I just read something.

I think it was Alice Garland. Okay. Well, that's cool of the week. So now it's time for horror headlines. Brought to you by Brian. Take it away, man. All right. Before we get to CinemaCon, which just happened,

we're going to talk a little bit of other news. Monarch Legacy of Monsters has been renewed. for a second season. Okay. And they're planning... I need to start watching it. They're planning other spinoff series.

Oh, boy. Are they going to have... Are the monsters actually in the show? Yeah. Okay. Different monsters. They're going to have another Kong tooth extraction

episode, Brian. Sure. We've been talking about the 20 years later sequel. I think last episode we talked about Jody Coleman. and Charlie Hanam were rumored to join the cast. Well, this week, the latest rumor is Ray Fines

as in talks to join the cast also. So, Jacks is going to be in there, huh, Brian? Yeah. Is he going to do that final scene from Sons? I didn't like that ending. No, it was kind of a cop-out, wasn't it? And I felt like he left a club in some bunch of bullshit. A clock.

Like, here you guys are, you guys inherit these problems. I'm going to go kill myself. Yeah. Well, it's not as bad as the ending of the Mayans, though. And EZ's final fate. That was rough. You guys didn't go that far, did you? I quit Mayans after three episodes of season one.

Oh, boy. The main guy. So did a lot. The main guy, which was in Roadhouse. He was the guy by the alligator. I just, I didn't buy him as a biker. Yeah Coincidentally

He's a biker in Roadhouse Well spoiler alert For the end of Mayans The whole time He's been a fucking think Working for the feds Trying to break the club down And so they all

They all quarter him And beat him to death That's the end of the series Oh Well Yeah Kind of got to exact that What happens to a rat, right?

Let's see more 28 years later news Danny Boyle and Alex Garland who's also writing the first movie said this is the first of a plant trilogy and Nia Dacaska

she directed the new Candyman movie she's directing the second movie should be interesting so it's going to be three different directors all that right? Yeah but I think Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are

writing the all three. Well, there you go. So he's probably, Garland's probably going to focus on writing them like we were speculating. Why do they keep doing that now?

That's weird. To have like a trilogy plan but with different directors. Oh, yeah. And then half the time they don't come through. I'm fine with it. I forgot what movie

we were talking about the Evil Dead. Oh, yeah. Sam, Sam Ramey wrote a Bible to go by off the evil did. I think that's why they're so well-liked because they all, even the remake, kind of fit in there. Yeah. But I'm not cool with trilogies being made when there's nothing to, a set thing to go off of.

And then you get all these different creative people in there just kind of doing their own thing. Kind of, kind of like what happened with Star Wars. Ryan Johnson came in. Ryan Johnson. I was going to ask you if he's directed the third. Brian, I was going to ask you if he's already pinned or pegged to direct the third one in the 28

days series. I hope not. I think he's a lot better when he does his own thing. Yeah. Not like an existing like I enjoy the Knives Out movies. Yeah. That's because that's his own thing. What was it? Loper. I like Looper.

Yes. Yeah. Very. good. Rick? Brick was good. Mm-hmm. Correction from last week when I said, when we talked about the Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan, vampire movie, and I said I wasn't sure Michael B. Jordan was in it.

He is apparently rumored to be playing dual roles, so he is starring in it. Okay. And AJ will be rooting that he's a vampire who takes his shirt off. I'm telling me. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure she'll get a scene where

his shirt is torn off. I mean, why else would you put him in the movie? Latest edition to join the cast is Haley Steinfeld, which she played in the Hawkeye series for Marvel. Yep. And the Tree Grip remake, right? Was that her first big role? Yep. And Ryan Coogler, who is directing and also writing, said

the movie will feature others. southern supernatural gothic elements other than vampires hmm like werewolves you never know La Yorona

again the movie that was so bad that they now say it's not a part of the conjuring universe no they took it out even though it has a character okay from the conjuring

movies hmm Very interesting. All right, cinema con happened over the past week. And I think we should, I know we try to plan a lot of group trips, but we should make it to cinema con in South Vegas. Sounds like a good time. When's it going to be?

It already happened. It already happened. Ah, fuck. That's where we're supposed to go this next weekend if AJ doesn't get stuck working. All right, they showed us some footage of the new Furiosa movie. and a lot of people were excited about what they showed. Okay. They showed some footage of Ishaana Shalom, Shalom.

M. Knight Shalemond's daughter's upcoming movie The Watcher, and they said it was very twisted. Shama Lava Ding Dong. Very twisted and freaky stuff they seen in the footage. Ishanna? Ishanna of the dead. I'm probably... Shama Shana.

I'm probably mispronouncing her name. Probably not. That sounds about right. Also there was Amnai Shama. Shamalan. He talked about his upcoming movie trap and gave a synopsis on it.

A father and teen daughter attend a pop concert where they realize at the center of a dark sinister event. So essentially there's a serial killer that the police are trying to catch and he's at this concert. Turns out the concert is a big setup

by the police to catch the killer. That sounds like way too much work. Well, I don't think the actual I don't think the concert's fake. I just stay there. Weird. And the rumor is really about Taylor Swift

being a CIA agent. And the rumor is We're going to follow the movie from the perspective of the killer Played by Josh Hartniff Oh, I haven't seen him in much lately Yeah, from what I understand And he's the one that takes his daughter to the concert He's the killer

And he finds out that it's basically a setup to catch the killer Okay Cat and mouse game ensues, huh? That sounds horrible. sounds really bad actually it sounds i think it sounds pretty good it sounds like the end of mr mercedes the book not the tv series because i just i just like the aspect that the killer knows there finds out that

he's being lured to in this event that he's taking his daughter to where they're trying to catch him and how's he how's he going to make it out of the event if i mean if he does make it out and does he care about his daughter, right? That's the other question. And you did, M. Knight, so you know there's going to be a twist in there somewhere. The twist is that the daughter was the killer all along.

I know. That's exactly what I was thinking. That one is coming out August 9th this year. Boy, he is getting them out again, isn't he? For a guy who said he was like semi-retiring or whatever. Bong Joon Ho, who did

Snowpiercer and Parasite. He talked about his new movie, Mickey 17, with Robert Pattinson. Basically, the synopsis of this movie. You guys ever seen Moon with Sam Rockwell? Yeah. Good movie. Yeah. You guys remember the twist of that movie. Yeah. Yep. You mean with Sam's. Sam's Rockwell? Yeah. Basically that, but with Robert Pattinson. Several Edward Cull. Several Edward Cull.

But I guess we get to see... It's too shimmery. We get to see Robert Pattinson die in a whole bunch of different ways. That sounds like a fan movie. I know. They're going to love this. Tim Burton and the cast from Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice were there, and they talked about how the movie is mostly practicals with various.

little CGI. So he's bringing back to stop motion and the puppet the puppeteering and the practical effects. That's cool. It's kind of what made the first one. You know what I mean? Like that stuff is kind of iconic. I was tripping on acid

when I saw it the theater. That one and I was also tripping when I saw they live. Oh. Keep David and Rowdy-Rotty. This one was probably the most controversial. least to me. Blumhouse

was there and they talked about how they inked a multi-picture deal with the Lionsgate to reimagine some of their horror movies in their existing catalog and the first one they're doing is the Blair Witch Project. Okay.

Reimagined though. Which means they have a little bit of poetic license with it. It's Blumhouse though. So just imagine night swim and imaginary meets. When did you Become so anti-Blumhouse. Ever since I started taking shit for giving night swim a six. That's not Blumhouse's fault.

I'm broken. It's your fault. I'm broken now. You said you liked it. Can we go back and re-review that one? Nope. Without watching it. It's on the internet.

It's out there. Saw 11 gets pushed to, September 26 of next year, which I think is a good thing because they said they don't want to rush it. They want to put out the best song movie they can. So I think when they started coming out every year, I think that's when they kind of felt like they were rushed. And there was the story got convoluted and everything. Yeah, that makes sense. So I'm fine with that news.

Henry Cabo was there to talk about his new Highlander movie that they're doing. Hmm. Okay. They said this Highlander will go deeper into the lore and we'll have more action and sword play, which I'm cool with because he didn't really get any answers on, you know, why they exist and why they do what they do. Right. And he's the main character. He's going to be the Connor McLeod of the movie. That makes sense. I can totally see that. Not Christian Lambert. He is not.

So he's just going to be a huge, huge version of that character. So is there going to be someone to play the Scottish Spaniard? Like the part that James Bonn played? Sean Connery? Yeah. As far as I know, the only things that are attached to this movie, sorry if you hear a kid in the background, is Henry Cavill starring in Derek Litch,

the John Wick movies, is directing. Oh, it'll be good then. I think it'll be good. All right. So we'll get some real sword play. They ought to get Connor McGregor to play the Spaniard. I'm from Spain. I think he has to be the bad guy and everything that he plays now.

You think so? From now on, yeah. He's the permanent. a heel. He's a great villain. See, I thought he would do a turn, Brian. What do you call the opposite of a heel turn? Or his face? Or is there? Yeah.

Yeah, I thought he'd maybe do a baby face turn in the sequel, right? That's why I recommended I mean, the protagonist. What he did to the main villain, I guess you could say he can have a turn. Yeah, I can see that.

But he's still be an anti-hero. because you can't, the way he played, what was his name, Nux? The way he played that character, you can't be just good. I mean. Yeah. He's going to have a scene where he walks into a whorehouse in Bangladesh or something that says, you, you, and you.

Or you just get a scene of him leaving one butt naked. Yes, walking across the entire town, butt naked. All right. they showed some new footage of the crow and there you go Philip your movie you're anticipating said the action and

violence was pretty gruesome okay and probably the smartest move I think for this for this movie uh huh is it's moving from June 7 to August 23rd which I think that's

a good good move okay well I you know what maybe it'll do something. Yeah. You're going to give it a chance. I know that. Oh, yeah. Just from what of everything I read, the footage that they showed of the Crow was, but

got a positive reaction. Okay. They showed a new footage of Lance's favorite director, Eli Ross, upcoming Borderlands movie, which got positive reaction. They showed footage

of The Strangers Chapter 1 and also drop news that the Strangers Chapter 2 will come out this fall. They've already filmed all three of the trilogy. Not a fan? No, I'm sure it's going to be fine. I'm just, I'm not a, I'm not a huge fan, dude.

I mean, it was cool. The first movie was cool. You're not a fan of anything. No, I am a fan of a lot of stuff, dude. They just went to the well too many times of this. We'll see. The jury's out. The jury's out.

They only made two movies. What do you mean they went to the well too many times? No, it felt like the same movie. Do you think they need more of them? I'm fine with it. I like a good home invasion movie. Yeah. And the first two were not the same movie, Lance.

One took place in a house, and the other one took place over the course of an entire trailer part. Yes, yeah, that's right. We should have played that before our trailer part, but then we would have been pulled by universal. Let's see. Holly Berry and Alexandra Aja were there to talk about their new movie Never Let Go and they talked about the synopsis which

sounds pretty cool. It's like set in a post-apocalyptic world where people don't go outside unless they have to to get certain supplies and they have a rope tied around them. They could like that scene in the mist when they tie the rope around them and then go outside. Yeah, okay. I could see that. It's giving me quiet place vibes.

Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. And apparently from the synopsis, Holly Berry has two sons, two young sons, and one day one of them, because they're always told about what's outside and be careful, but they've never seen anything. Their whole entire lives. So one tries to test it one day and goes out without the rope

and you get the starter the rest of the movie so is Hallie Berry the lead in this? Yes hmm hmm but it's Alex

I can't remember a movie that she was like the lead in that was like really not recently yeah not since Catwoman she doesn't do a lot of movies lately so yeah that terrible one with the kidnapping or whatever that was going on to

that was kind of It was stupid, but it was kind of fun, stupid. Yeah, it was fun, but it was like... Okay. I'll make me that. I'm going to pay back some IRS money level movie. But it... The new movie's a new movie is good reviews, Brian?

Yeah. We're going to do a cage rage soon. All right. But this movie's got... It's directed by Alex Aja, which he did the Hills Have Eyes remix, Piranha 3D. What else did he do? Crawl, right? The alligator movie?

Yeah, crawl. Well, that one was pretty good. I like the hills have eyes, too. Mm-hmm. A few more things. John Wick presents the ballerina with Anna Diarmus. It showed footage of that

and confirmed Keanu Reeves is in the movie along with Norman. Norman Reedis. Oh, okay. And they said this movie will featured in Lance Reddick's final performance. Okay. As long as I don't try to CGI

Reddick at the end, like driving off in a Camaro or something, you know? No, they said this was the last thing he, last project he filmed. Okay. Let's see, five Knights of Freddy's two officially coming in two nights in 2025. Why don't they call it six nights at Freddy's then? Because they never had a game called Six Knights of Freddy's.

Okay. All right. It'll do the same thing the last one did. Kids love it. Of course. They showed some footage of Nospheratu, which got a very good response out of the crowd. Okay.

Lance, new Star Trek movie coming in 2025. Allegedly, they've been saying that for five fucking ten years, dude, that they were going to do another Star Trek movie. Perkins. It was supposed to be Quentin Tarantino. A prequel. Oh, so Thor is probably. get me in this one right that's what i'm hearing is set uh a couple decades before the 2009

movie so yeah who will play young kirk probably dame de hine he's he's got to sleep 40 by now well he can he can do the orphan first kill thing you can do that camera camera tricks in the huge chair Chris Pime with his fucking giant head He already kind of looks like a toddler walking around Yeah Let's see Glenn Powell

He played hangman in Top Gun Maverick And he's in the upcoming Twisters movie Which they showed footage of the new Twisters movie And a lot of people said it's going to be a lot of fun and a lot of destruction in that one. But he has set to a star in Edgar Wright's adaptation. Now, they keep putting this in here.

Steve, adaptation of Stephen King's The Running Man. Oh, that could be good. So it sounds like they're going to go more from the book than the Arnold movie. That's what I was going to ask. Is it going to be closer to the book? book, because the Arnold movie was like nothing, like the book. Because if it was more from the movie, you would just say the running man that starred Arnold Schwarzenegner in 1980, whatever,

but they seem to emphasize on Stephen King's The Running Man. Does Arnold make a cameo? I hope so. I would love if Arnold played the game show host. Yes, that's, you got it. You nailed it. Brian just did the casting for the movie. send me my I'll hear to bless a running man

Yeah Do you know how to run? Let's see Transformers and G.I. Joe movie confirmed so Okay. There's that. Scary Scary movie reboot.

It's going to be so fucking stupid. Scary movie reboot. You've got to be kidding you. That is what they're bringing back scary movie. the only question is they didn't I don't think we I even heard if the wanes were even involved in that

I was going to say a lot of that is going to depend on who's in it it could be really bad couldn't it it could be really good I mean well it's definitely going to be really bad but in a good way or a bad man I got you let's see people at Cinemacom got to see a small teaser of Smile 2 and the synopsis said this time it'll affect

a singer at a concert there's your Taylor Swift reference Philip she's going to die in the middle of the concert if she that had me thinking if she dies in front of the or she what was in the smile movie you had to kill yourself in front of somebody yes

if she killed herself in front of a crowd would that affect the entire crowd or just a certain person Brian just unlocked the plot of the movie. It's like when the ring got a hold of the internet. Yeah, guaranteed. Brian just saw it. Wasn't that the sequel?

Yeah, I can't remember which one it was, but it was definitely one of them. It wasn't great. Ouch, ouch, out. Gladiator 2 footage was shown and impressed a lot of people. So that's coming. Russell, I heard Russell Crowe lost 120 pounds. to reprise. Okay.

I would have sorry. Sorry. I can't keep a pretty straight there for a minute. No, he still is. They tell him, hey,

you got to slim down to be in it. He's like, ah, fuck yeah. Let's see. Live action R-rated Last Ronan movie.

Do you guys know the last Ronan's comic book from the Ninja Turtles? Nope. Oh. Where it's a post-apocalyptic world

where three out of the four Ninja Turtles have been killed. Oh, sweet. And the last remaining one looks to avenge his brother's death and they're going to make a live action R-rated version. Who's left?

I think Michelangelo. Of course it is. Can they still order pizza in the sewer though? It's post-apocalyptic world. There's no pizza. He has to make it on. Yeah, that sounds like a no. So no pizza and the death of his brothers could be the reason why we get a serious Michelangelo. Michelangelo turns to the darkness.

Dude, like that first Ninja Turtles movie that came out is still a lot of fun to watch to this day. And it's not like strictly a kid's movie. I mean, there's like some serious moments in there. it gets 10th. Well, interesting you bring that up because I heard a lot of rumors that they're going towards the practical look. Yeah. That'd be cool. I think that's a great idea. It's going to be very adult. Just think what you could do with the, with the suits now, because that was what, 1990? Yeah. So you can still see their eyeballs through their mouths. Yeah. That's scary when you're cool.

Like Donatello ate somebody. I know. No, there's a scene in the first one where it's like a, it's like one of the fuckups in the movie or whatever. And like Donatello opens his mouth or wide and you can see the guy's eyes. Still one of my all-time favorites. I love that movie. I'm stoked for this one. Yeah.

And the last two things is Fetti Averis talked about. they showed some alien Romulus footage and he confirmed that the movie is mostly practical effects I'm like a lot of people are going that way then that's good yeah and lastly they showed the crowd there got to show new footage got to see new footage

a Deadpool Wolverine and were completely blown away with what they saw awesome I this this is the only Marvel movie that I've heard announced in the past I don't know how many years that I've actually been really excited about.

All right. I think this movie has the potential because I know they're already filmed or filming other Marvel movies. I think this movie has the potential to have them go change or rewrite everything after that.

I think you're right. If it succeeds like I think it will, then they made change course. This is guaranteed billion-dollar movie. Yeah. Billion? Billion.

Wow. You got Deadpool and Hugh Jackman. Yes. And they said this is not Deadpool 3. This is Deadpool and Wolverine. Sure. Love story for the ages. Dude, those are my two favorite Marvel characters of all time.

Really? Even to this day, always like the Punisher, but not... Punisher's pretty cool. Yeah, not necessarily the way they've done the movies, but I like the Punisher from the TV show. I like Thomas Jane. Did you? Yeah. Yeah.

I had a comic with Wolverine, The Punisher, and Ghost Rider. Oh, wow. Fighting Mephisto. It was pretty awesome. I think I've read that one. It's like a little graphic novel. It's cool. So that was all the... news from Senate. I mean, there was much more news, but the news we would talk about. And apparently,

from what I heard, they actually show, like, the Inside Out movie and the Disney panel, they show like 30 minutes of the movie. Oh, wow. So they show quite a bit of footage to the people that get into the panels. So. Yeah. That first Inside Out movie wasn't terrible. Yeah. But I heard a lot the people were mad they showed that much of the movie I wanted you to show the whole movie yeah no kidding oh yeah you're starting to get into it yeah you're starting to get into it

and then it's like to be continued that was the problem I heard people were like really got into the movie and then the footage ended and they were like coming 20 25 it's a fucking cartoon man

how long can it it's probably like you gave him at least a third of the Oh yeah, I would say a third But that was all the cinema con news and that is all the news for the show Bill up you ready to go down to the trailer Park Let's go All right mean you gonna go down to trailer park and Brian is gonna bring us the big the small And sometimes the very very weird what's our first new trailer tonight Brian?

Well this comes from Lance's favorite studio Blumhouse and that is the remake of 2020. 2020's Danish films Speak no evil. For those who haven't seen the original movie, a family invited to spend a weekend and an idealistic

country house goes from a dream vacation to a psychological nightmare. What was that? I can't think of if I've seen this movie or not. I know me and Lance have, and we talked about it. So you probably... I probably have then. Yeah.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to forget once you've seen, especially the end of it. You'll be so mad at two of the characters. Oh, yeah. Maybe you won't be mad at them in this one. Maybe in this one they'll do what they have to do, Brian. Well, by the end of the trailer, I started getting those angry feelings because I feel like there's going to be some dumb choices in here again. It looks like a shot.

for shot remake, isn't it? Yeah. This stars James McAvoy, Allison, friend Koshky, McKenzie Davis,

and Scoot McNary. Okay. Directed by James Watkins, who did the woman in black the movie with Harry Potter, Daniel Radcliffe.

It wasn't a great movie. But he did do Eden Lake when Michael Fasten you guys remember that one Oh yeah that was a good one Okay so it will be a dark ending then I predict

If he did that Written by James Watkins And returning to help write the movie Are the writer And writer and director Christian and Mads Toftro Okay

If Lars from Denmark Isn't pitching in to help write this movie I'm not going to fucking watch it. I'll start it off. It does, from what I remember, kind of look like it has the same exact beats as the original one. But I think mostly I'll be checking this out because I think to play the main role of the,

I guess the villain of the movie, I think James McIvoy was a great choice because he looks unhinged in this movie. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. I'll go see anything that he's in. That guy's awesome. And like I said...

Bad movie that he's done. Yeah. And like I said, all those angry feelings started coming back, because I'm just like, are you going to make this fucking... Like the scene and the trailer...

Same decisions. If I'm vegan, and I say I don't eat meat, don't stick meat in my... Well, that sounded... Don't stick a bite of a piece of duck in my mouth. A scotch egg. And there's just scenes like he's saying goodbye to them.

He's like kissing her on her neck like a whole bunch of times. And her husband's just kind of standing there not doing anything or saying anything about it. When he ran and grabbed the kid's legs. and sort of moving them, I'd be like, like, uh, this isn't happening here. We're leaving. You're grabbing my kid's legs? Yeah.

I hardly know you, Scott. You crazy, Scott. So it does have that. And I'm wondering if a collaboration happened with the writers to give you the same beats of the original one, but change things up enough for it to stand on its own. That's what I'm hoping for. Okay. What do you guys say?

Yeah, man. I'm like I said dude anything with James McAvoy I'm down this looks awesome Lance yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it for sure I mean I really was thinking okay McAvoy's in it this is this is actually gonna be you know not maybe not as good as the original but like almost as good as the original but two things have me a little worried number one like like I said it looks like beat for beat like they're not changing fucking anything and if they do that and they do the literal same movie, psycho style,

fuck it, I'm not interested. And then number two, that fucking Blumhouse named popped up. Well, one thing that I kind of got from it, and this is probably going to go on the schedule, so I'll get a chance to rewatch the original one. I don't remember

the kids having that big a role, because they look more featured in the trailer. Okay. Could be. Well, good. Yeah, if it's gone on the schedule with the old one, because maybe I haven't watched this. I think you're, because I know me and Lance talked about it on here, so I think maybe us talking about it kind of.

Ringing some bells. Yeah. Yeah. When the guy, when they went to dinner with him, Philip, when they were all on holiday and the guy says, I, he said, I'm from Holland. What's the accident? You do it, Philip. I can't do it. Isn't that weird?

I am from Holland Smoking a pancake No There it is That's it Then I see there is no pleasing you All right sorry That's one of my favorites too

That's great All right Brian We're going to watch it for sure Yep This one comes out September 13th Friday to the 3rd Nice, okay

Looks good, man I'll go see this one in the theaters for sure Yeah, real quick This looks a little bit more I don't want to call Blumhouse movies Well, they are on a lower budget Than most movies But this looked like

The cinematography looked a lot Better than most Blumhouse movies Yeah Yes, very much so Very much so Yeah, it looks It looks like it's got a lot of promise

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Oh real quick I forgot to do Texas Frightmare update Oh yes Billy Worth Of the Lost Boys fame. He was one of the four vampires with Kiefer Sutherland.

He will be there along with Juliet Lewis announced today. Okay. So we will have a presence at Frightmare folks, even though the three of us probably won't be there. Nez definitely will. Yes. So we will have a presence there. Philip, I know

he's asking if you can drive out there for it, dude. Yeah, I might try to make it up there for a day or so. All right. It is May 17th through the 19th. We'll see. Depends on what the kids got going on, I suppose. I hear you.

Baseball, right? Yeah. Swim and volleyball and whatever else we get coming. We have some cancellations. Freddie Rodriguez from Planet Terror had to cancel. had to cancel due to filming obligations, and David Notton, the star of an American werewolf in London, had to cancel due to scheduling conflict.

At least they're staying busy, right? Bringing us more material. But I can't remember the other guy, the one that gets killed, his friend, that gets killed by the wolf. Oh, was that Balkei from Perfect Strangers, or I miss remembering? Is that the Mandela? kicking him? Okay. Yeah. Who was the other guy? He's going to be there for sure.

The more weasily, wormy one. Yeah. All right. On to our featured attractions. It's psychological horror week, and we'll hit it with Gone Girl and the Girl on the train Girls' Night. That's what I was

thinking. I thought the theme was... We'll start with Gone Girl from 2014. It seems like it wasn't that long ago, but... No, it didn't feel like You can't go on like that. It's not good enough for you? It's not even close.

He may be the reason I survive. I'll lie the rough and rainy. I'll take her laughter and her tears and make them all my souvenirs. Where she goes, I've got to being off my life. With his wife's disappearance, having become the focus of an intense media circus, a man sees the spotlight turned on him when it's suspected that he may not be innocent.

Director is David Fincher, also known for 7 and Alien 3. Really? Alien 3. Hey, we've got to stay horror-related here, right? Writer is Jillian Flynn, who also wrote the novel. Ben Affleck postponed directing Live by Night in order to work on this film

with David Fincher, even stating he's the only director I've met who can do everybody else's job better than they could. On set one day, Affleck changed the lens setting on a camera and almost indiscernible amount, betting a crew member that Fincher wouldn't notice. Affleck lost the bet when, as Fincher brought up, why does the camera look a little dim? There you go. There you go, true master. All right.

Brian, what did you think about Gone Girl? Excellent movie. Excellent story. Amazing cast. Everybody was great in the movie. And I just love the way the story played out. How when the story starts, you're completely certain that Ben Affleck is the biggest piece of shit. Just the way he plays everything off, just so nonchalant.

just really doesn't care. And then when you find out about Roseman Pike, when you find out what she's doing in the movie, you're just like, okay, this movie's giving me the twisty turnies here because I didn't see that coming and just how just crazy she is and to the way she's got everything mapped out to, I'm going to fuck with my husband on this day. I'm going to do this.

She has a whole calendar up. up until the day she's going to for real like kill herself like killing herself was part of the planet that was the original plan like wow I thought everybody was great

Tyler Perry you know this is not the way we usually see him right Lance yeah he didn't put on a dress this way and he played it serious

totally straight yeah he was good what's his name was just so creepy and gross oh duke Neil Patrick Harris oh yeah

oh you should read the book it's oh we'll go into it later but the book is that that's the main difference I'll wait till my turn sorry but this they could have done a lot more with him all right really

yeah but that still that that scene in the bed when he gets killed was just. That's amazing. Yeah. That wasn't C.G.

The way she planned, just the way she planned everything out, how she was giving herself the bruises, tying her hands up with ropes on her wrist just to give those markings and stick in the bottle, certain place to give the effect that she was raped. Yikes. That is a true psychopath. And then they add the element of kind of telling you why she's a. kind of like that because, you know, she is the character of this book that her parents got rich off of where the character seems like the parents made it to be a better version of her throughout her

entire life, you know, amazing Amy. This is supposed to be you, but in the book, she would have been married by now and she would have did this by now. Meanwhile, you're not. Yeah. So I just thought this was a fantastic movie. I think it's David Venture, not his best movie, but one of his best movies that he's done. That would have been strong words, Brian. Yeah, I think seven for me. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, definitely a better movie than this one.

But not by a ton. It's a great movie. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, it's an outstanding movie. So I didn't read the book And yeah, that's the only thing that kind of disappointed me. Fincher did an outstanding job of capturing the book. It was like the perfect, well, it was written by Gillian Flynn,

the lady who literally wrote the novels. So I guess that stands to reason. It was like an almost perfect version because it wasn't shot for shot. They had a few little differences, like things that you could do better in a visual format versus reading it. And they really took advantage. of that. One thing I really wish they had done

and it disappointed me. Like if you read the book, Brian, Dugie Hauser's character, there's so much fucking buildup, right? So it's not like you get in the movie where like all of a sudden she's kidnapped, right? Like, he brings her in and then all of a sudden the doors are locked

and all that shit. It's like he does it slowly. Like, frog in the theater style. They never did that in the movie. I mean, they You got the feeling that she couldn't leave. Yes. But that's just something you were just expecting. Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't get that she was like locked in.

So like in the book, he legit. Okay. Kidnaps her. Legit. Yeah. Yeah, like she's going to doors and trying to open them, you know, kind of like misery. Yeah, because, I mean, you get that he's been obsessing over her for years. He's just been in contact with her constantly.

and you get all that. And then you kind of get the feeling that when she goes to this place, his obsession is going to lead to her not being able to leave, but they never go there in a movie. Yeah, like for me, it was, I felt like he was obviously obsessed with her and she could easily manipulate him. And that he was just trying to help her. And she just murdered him in cold blood so that she could get out of his life.

that she was stuck in. He was pretty ineffectual in the movie. Like in the book, he's real sinister. Oh, okay. They show all the shit he does to, like, you know, very slowly. Like, first he starts coddling her, and then all of a sudden. And then he basically, you know, almost gets to the point where he threatens to chain her to the bed. If she keeps trying to leave.

So I was a little disappointed with that. And then they also went into a lot more detail on, like, the white trash couple that she ran to at the motel. Oh yeah. There was a lot. Yeah, there was a lot more of that, like going to the details of her dyeing her hair. Like, she dies her hair three different colors in the book. But in the movie, of course, you know, they just have the one. So, I get it. Like, if it had been an eight-episode miniseries or something, they could have got a lot more of that in there. Like, they could have done a whole episode just on her in the house with Doogie. Yeah. But nonetheless, it's a phenomenal movie. The scene that Brian called out, wow, I was just, my heart was racing. all that blood.

She was just so brutal. And you guys know my wife, H.J. very well. She hates the C word, right? Oh. About three-fourths away into this movie, she turns and looks at me. She goes, what a cunt. Yeah, so yeah.

It's indicted. It's a great movie, isn't it, Philip? It is, dude. I thought it was actually really good. This is, it's like, a lifetime movie on steroids, you know? Okay. Sure.

Except in this one, the woman is the bad guy. And she plays it. I don't know that they could have picked anybody to play that role better than Rosamund Pike. Like, she's... Just the way that her face looks. You know what I mean? I do. There's something about her.

And she's kind of... sexy, but like nasty sexy. But in like a she's probably a total bitch kind of way. Exactly. Yes. But no, I

thought they played it really well. I think I'm a Ben Affleck fan, man. I like him in a lot of stuff that he's in. I think he's kind of milk toast to me, kind of bland. But that's a little bit. Yeah, he is a little bit. I mean, obviously,

the Daredevil movie kind of sucks, but everything else he's in, I was pretty happy with it. When he has a good project, he's good in it. Yeah. He's directed a couple of great ones. Yeah, and he's directed some great ones. The town was fucking awesome. That was, and Wag the Dog was pretty great. I don't think he directed that, but he was in it.

So didn't he win an Oscar? Did he? Did he? Everybody's yelling at us right now. Maybe that was for writing Goodwill hunting That would make sense, yeah That would make sense

I was under the assumption That he was kind of along for the riot on that one It was more of a Matt Damon thing That's Damon There was something I think he directed that won an award Trying to look at it up Go ahead

All right You know he was in all those mall rats That's Kevin Smith movies and stuff. Yes, that's right. Loved him in those. Okay, you're selling me. You're selling me, Philip.

But yeah, man, it was a great psychological thriller. It was, had a lot of twists and turns. You never really knew where it was going next. And it kept you on the edge of your seat all time. All right. Scores. Brian, what do you think? Real quick.

Argo. Argo Oh, that was a good movie. I forgot about that one. The film received seven nominations at the 85th Academy Awards and won three for best picture, best adapted screenplay, and best

film editing. There you go. Was that about 2010? Was that the year that came out? That was 2012. Okay. A little bit before this one, completely. Yeah, that's a good.

Best score. or not best score sorry I'm thinking of the academies score I would have to give this a solid seven I thought everything was fantastic storytelling the acting the direction

the tone of the movie the music I had to add the music at certain points just kind of put you in that whatever the situation was supposed to make you feel like that music that they played at that time kind of put you in the in the situation and um yeah one of finch is best um like i said not the best i

think seven and i also throw i loved um what was the series he did my uh mine my mine hunter mad man hunter oh yeah mine hunter yeah i think so it was um it was pretty pretty big show wasn't a lot of people liked it oh i i started watching it after the second season came out. I just binged both seasons and like a weekend. And then you were pissed off because they, Netflix canceled it. Well, they didn't cancel it. He just said he didn't know when he had time to work on it. And they were like, well, I guess season three is not going to happen.

Maybe they'll do it now. Maybe they'll do it later, you know. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I had to talk to Fincher. I don't know. Is Philip Frozen? Brian, is Philip Frozeners? He was very still. I was looking up David Fincher stuff. He did Lords of Dogtown, man. That was a great movie. Yeah. Oh, wow.

No way. And Love Death and Robots. I'd assume he has something. Yeah, he had a segment in that. Yeah. I'm ready for the third season. All right. Lance, what do you think?

I'll go a little more, seven and a half. Not Fincher's best, but yeah, maybe one of his top five, you know. I don't know. I'd have to go back through the whole filmography. I don't know if he's. ever done anything I haven't liked. Yeah. Not necessarily love.

Let's see. The game. With Michael Douglas? Yeah. Fight Club. Love Fight Club. Wow. Love Fight Club.

Panic Room. Panic Room. Zodiac. He did Fight Club? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's one of his best.

The girl with the Dragon Tattoo remake. Loved it. Read the book. Love the movie. I don't remember. Did he the social network? Yeah, the social network. That might for me be kind of

The curious case of Benjamin Button. He also directed. He did that. I didn't know he did that. And recently he did that assassin movie, The Killer with Michael Fastender. It wasn't bad.

We haven't finished that. Yeah, I didn't. We started watching it and AJ got bored. Yeah, it wasn't the most excited. movie there is. Well, it's more so it was good. It's more so what an assassin goes through. It's just not the

killing part. It's like the preparation and the waiting and so I think they tried to, yeah. All right. I'm going to go eight on this one. Wow. It was a really solid movie and

kind of a classic. So there's that. And I love the Nancy. Grace character. Yeah. She was kind of hilarious. All right.

So we definitely recommend Gone Girl. Yes. I think we all do. On to the next one. The Girl on the Train. A teacher once told me I was the mistress of self-reinvention. It's like having a secret. And nobody but me knows I'm doing it.

I saw her. I saw her from the train. I saw her. She was with this man Just for a second Let's see, there it is 2016, my bad A divorcee becomes entangled in a Missing Person's investigation

that promises to send shockwaves throughout her life Director is Tate Taylor Also known for Ma and The Help Huh, okay Don't make me drink alone Don't make me drink alone Writers are Paula Hawkins and Aaron Wilson. Emily Blunt would wear bloodshot contact lenses for the scenes in which she's heavily inebriated.

She also wore prosthetics on her cheeks to make them look slightly plumber. Emily Blunt's confession in the Alcoholics Anonymous meeting was unrehearsed. Blunt's nervousness and the discomfort is completely genuine. Okay. Pretty good. Yeah. All right. Brian, what did you think about the girl on the train?

First time watching it, never seen it. Did know really what to expect. I do remember when they were first dropping the trailer years ago, how they were kind of trying to sell the movie as on the lines of Gone Girl type of psychological thriller. So it had me interested. I just never watched it. so I was kind of I was interested to watch it for the show and I will say it took a while for me to get into

the movie because it had a slow start but once it got gone I kind of like where the story was gone and at first it took me a while to get into Emily Blent's character because I felt like she was doing an accent and her real accent was coming through until in the movie when she was asking the doctor, you have an accent.

He was like, well, so do you. And then I was like, oh, that's just what she sounds like. Because I don't think I've ever heard her use her actual accent. Really? Okay. Yeah, she's British. So that was interesting. I thought John Krasinski was going to show up at some point in this.

I get waiting for that. But never happened. I thought the cast was pretty good. have Rebecca Ferguson which I kept getting her miss I kept confusing her with the other girl in the movie Haley Bennett yeah they look exactly alive yeah I thought it was an odd choice to to have Rebecca Ferguson's hair blonde like the other girl but I don't know if it was maybe to kind of confuse you because there was a lot of misdirection in the movie on who was with who and who was doing what and who was where which I ended up liking the

aspect of the story because how much of Emily Blunt's word can you go off of because she's an alcoholic and that drunk A.F. Well, and it is a little you definitely got to pay attention to it. True. Yeah, it gets a little

confusing at times, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of cleared up at the end when, because she's constantly told like when you're drunk, this is what happens. And then it can come to final. down that not necessarily everything has told you is what actually happens.

So, which it... Sorry. What happened? That was fucked up, man. Yeah. Yeah. This is the Lifetime movie. Like, what are you talking about, Brian, when you say, like, not everything's as you

remember it or whatever? Go into more detail. Because that was fucked up, dude. When that twist kind of fucked with me. The situation with the boss's wife. Yeah, Lisa could drive. That he got fired because of her outbursts at the party, which come to find out when she runs into the lady, that never happened.

And she was like, your husband got fired because he couldn't keep his dick at his pants with that one's, which makes her think maybe not everything that was told to me. happen. And then she starts getting little fragments of her memory back. You know, okay, maybe it happened like this. And then I think, but the biggest fault I think in the movie was just the look of Rebecca Ferguson because I just kept getting her confused with the other girl. And I know that was the point. But yeah, I'm like you, it threw me off. Like, I love

to look at Rebecca Ferguson. She's a really pretty woman. But I like her as a brunette, you know? I like her as a redhead. Oh, yeah. But I ended up getting more into the story as it played out. And then I think the one character I definitely did not like was, what's her name? Allison Janie. She was the detective.

She can be really irritating. Yeah. She's like the worst fucking detective. She clearly has something to go. go off of whether she's got the right person or not, but she, like, does no investigating. It's like, they're always coming to her. Yeah, and she's just like, no, it's not that person. Move, move on.

Shut up. Quit giving me those theories to the other guy, and it's like, come on. I don't think this other guy killed the babysitter. I think you did, but we're going to do nothing about it. We're just going to let her walk out of the precinct. We're not going to question her. Yeah, see ya. So, and then, I don't know.

I don't know if it was just the way the character it was played, but it was just, just smug, arrogant, just lazy. I just, I didn't like the portrayal. What's laziest police detective, huh? And we don't, we'd all be fucking murdered if she was in. There's an awful lot of them that go unsolved. And I did, I did like to misdirect with the therapist, Edgar Ramirez. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

because I thought he had a big part in it and just come to find out no didn't have anything to do it didn't didn't didn't even have sex with her just because he didn't want to lose his practice so pretty good pretty good watch but but not as good as gone girl that was him on the balcony kissing her when she yes yeah they showed it again later that that she remembered correctly okay I don't think he was kissing her I think he was Oh, I got you. Because when they showed, when they showed the,

is that what finger you use on? Freddy fucker, faster. Yeah, I don't, because when they showed the actual version of them standing there, he was just hugging her, they weren't kissing or anything. I don't know, it looked like a kiss to me. Maybe I misremembered it, Mandela effect, I guess. I don't know.

I don't know, man. But yeah, dude, when she wasn't being gaslit by her fucking husband, you know, she remembered stuff even a little bit clearer at least, you know. And I don't know, who was that character? Who was the actor? Justin Thoreau, I think he played

that character great. Yeah, because I thought he was kind of a douchebred. Throughout the, throughout the movie until the reveal happens of how he really is and manipulates the situation. So I thought he played that character really good.

and he usually plays kind of a hero type so he's not used to seeing him like that he's in the upcoming Beetlejuice Beetlejuice in undisclosed role hmm okay well that's what you think I also read this book this is a lot different from the book

it's not nearly as well directed it's not nearly as well adapted okay so in the book yeah I mean you've got the basics like she was just still writing the train even though she'd lost her job there was like more of a hint of alcoholism I think in the book it's like she wasn't as over the top like falling down drunk I mean I think she just got really drunk on that one occasion in the book I remember correctly but like oh in this movie she's full on filling up her water yeah she's out there she's like drunk all the time she plays bottle this big and fill it with vodka straight vodka? Really? I'd be gagging, man.

She plays a great drunk. She's asleep by noon. She does play a good drunk. To the point where like the scene where she is bleeding and has all these bruises on her arm and she just naturally just feels like oh the bruises are just because

I've been falling down again. And it's pretty wild that you know come to find out she had prosthetics on her cheeks because I couldn't tell. Yeah. So there's one of the big differences is in the book, she's actually a super heavyweight, not super, but she's like a heavyweight chick, right? So she's like fat.

Let's call it what it is. She's fat in the book and like not attractive at all and get like acne. And like a lot of the time she's, she'll like read a book until she's, you know, she'll start drinking after she, after she reads the book or while she's reading it. But I don't remember in the book. See, I don't remember the book as well either. I don't think it was quite as well written as Gone Girl was, but I don't remember her downing a whole fucking, you know, 32-ounce bottle of vodka.

Like, with no mixer and nothing? Well, she wasn't downing the, she was just drinking out of her water. Yeah, sipping. Okay. Well, you know what? Well, you may have seemed like she's just taking this bottle to the head. Well, that's true.

Okay, fair enough. New Ball. All right, let's just say by the time she got from like fucking New York, city to fucking bum-fuck Connecticut or whatever. She was fucking gone with a wind. Can we say that? Yes.

I don't know, guys. This was a bit lifetimeish for me. This was not gone girl. This was not an incredibly well-directed movie or incredibly well-acted movie. God forgive me, because I know everybody out there is an Emily Blatt fan and she's

okay, but it wasn't that great. It definitely wasn't as good as... What is she bad at? What is she outstanding in? I mean, quiet place, she's just there. What else has she been in? Fuck, I don't even know. Oh, I have to put my foot down on a quiet place. Go for it, dude. I'm listening. I'm listening.

I'm listening to the quiet place. Go ahead. She holds her own in those movies, especially the second one, because there's no John Krasinski in that one. You waving high to me? What are you doing? What do you think, a look. What are her other big roles that she's been really fantastic?

I can't think of any. That's the problem. Well, you say she's bad. What is she bad? I mean, look it up. No, I didn't say she was bad, did I? I didn't say she was great. You were alluding. Well, not great is close to the bad then.

She's Ben Affleck. Oh, God. Edge of tomorrow. Devin'clock. Edge of tomorrow. She kicked ass and she looked good in it. Oppenheimer. Okay, Oppenheimer, she was pretty good as the wife. So I think like Phil said...

Oh, she played Mary Puppens. Oh, wow. Which I heard she did it. I've never seen it. I heard she did a good job. I mean, she seems... She looks the part. I think... It wasn't good. Uh-oh. Well, Lance, you don't like... There's a whole lot you don't like. And I think...

I think Phil's kind of hit it on the head. maybe she's like Ben Affleck. Maybe if the project's good, she's going to be good. Maybe she needs to direct then. They try her hand at directing. It works for her husband. Yeah.

Well, that doesn't mean it's going to work for her. True. It might. It wouldn't surprise me if she was a good director. But we'll see. Yeah. So I kind of, I had to watch this one twice.

Oh, no! And I'm pretty sure I've seen it before. I just can't remember. But I started watching... A lot of details, right? Yeah, I started watching it, and it was pretty late, and I fell asleep during it. Because it kind of lulls you in that first section of the movie. It's real slow.

But then, yeah, once it gets going, if you're paying attention to it, it's kind of exciting. But it is very lifetime to me. This is like a high-budget life. movie, you know, like, if they could get Emily Blunt to come in and play. But having said that, I kind of like those Lifetime movies. It's a good murder mystery. It just wasn't super spectacular for me. It's no Gone Girl for sure. I probably won't be excited to watch this one again. Gone Girl, however... For the third time? Yeah, Gone Girl, however, I will watch it. But I did

I did sit down to watch it the second time because I wanted to because I didn't know what was going on. I'd like wake up and see something going on and I'm like, I fuck this movie. And then when I watched it the second time, I was actually paying attention. And it was a pretty good time. So it wasn't bad, but it wasn't

awesome. Kind of just it wasn't bad, but it wasn't awesome. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. You know, because like, you think, if I think psychological horror, my mind goes to, like, kiss the girls or seven or, you know, stuff like that. And this is not that for sure. Yeah. Or fatal attraction.

Yeah. Yeah. Which those will be coming on our next psychological. I thought they might be. Okay. All right. Scores. Brian, what do you think? Just because, like you said, just that lull in the beginning, because it takes a while for the story to actually get going. And there was some characters. I don't know if it was the way they played it or the way they were supposed to be played.

It just kind of irritated me. I would have to give it a six. I do like Emily Blunt's portrayal of this alcoholic that kind of gets into the situation. and you don't know to go off of her word or not. I like that. I thought there's a lot of good names in here in the cast. I mean, we didn't talk about Luke Evans, Lisa Kudrow, which I didn't even know they were in. They have bit parts in the movie, but, you know, they're in there. So it was cool to see them in there.

Yeah, Lisa Kudrow is really only in it for maybe two minutes total. Yeah, because I've seen her name in the credits. And then after a while, I just forgot about it. and then she pops up. And I was like, hey, it's Lisa Kudrow. Yeah. And then she's gone. It's like Bobby Boudreau.

Lisa Kudreau. Sorry. No, that's Bobby Boucher. Yeah. We were going to let it go. Fair enough. But yeah, it just took a while too long for the story to get going. That's why it's such a low score for me.

All right, Lance. it's not terrible it's it's a four and a half it's almost at the halfway point lifetimeish very lifetimeish yeah very much has a lifetime plot um I'm gonna go five and a half I think it's better nobody's blown away right yeah nobody's pissed either no I like I'm not mad that I watched it but it It was, I watched Gone Girl first, and then I watched this one. I was like, I should have done that in the reverse order. Because that one blows this one out of the one.

It's a, I think it's a good story, but it just wasn't executed, right? It's like a little convoluted. It's, and just the police work in the movie, because with these type of movies, you know, you like Gone Girl, we didn't even talk about that aspect of, I can't think of the chick's name, the one from the Fear of the Walking Dead who played the Detain. detective and gone girl. Oh, Kim Dickens. Yeah.

She was investigating. She was finding out, before Ben Affleck was finding out the little clues to the scavenger hunt thing, his wife left him. She was already a step ahead of him. In this movie, Emily Blunt's character shows up at the same time as Luke Evans' character getting questioned by the police and fucking nobody says anything to her. They just let her turn. She walks up and then sees it. Please, it turns around and walks away.

Suspicious, yes. Does anybody stop her? Just a little bit. Maybe we better question that chick. Right. All right. Okay. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns.

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I don't know. What would you call it? Is that as good as any? I don't know. I don't know. My daughter asked me to go watch this movie, though. Oh, it looks great. That looks fucking great. All right. So we are going to check out the brand new Abigail, but also let the right one in. So, Philip, until the horror returns again,

good night.