The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #413: Let The Right One In (2008) & Abigail (2024)
Episode Date: April 26, 2024This week we cover little vampires with 2 modern takes on the genre. Matthew Goudreau from Percolated Media joins us to talk about the brand-new Abigail, and we also cover Let the Right One In. Cool o...f the Week includes Resident Evil, Late Night with the Devil, Fallout, and The Gentlemen. Trailers are The Exorcism and Trap. The podcast spotlight shines on Cast of the Living Dead. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Jerry Herring, Patrick Moore, Marcey Papandrea, Jenn Nangle, Donald Muzio, Tim Spencer-Lane, Richard J DeCesare, and Alan Lawless. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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I'm Lance.
With me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian.
How's it going, guys?
Pretty good, pretty good.
Allergies, man.
Yeah.
Actually, I am getting over some shit.
I may sound weird today.
I feel like I'm here in the taking my own life in my hands in the Hore Return Studios
with fucking typhoid Marty and typhoid Michael or something over here.
That sounds like a couple of fucking sick bastards, man.
What's going on in the way?
What is it, Brian?
Can I be Marty?
Typhoid Marty.
I love it.
I love it.
What's, you guys have, that's springtime, right?
Springtime in Alaska, right?
Yeah, it's pretty much, most of the majority of the snow's gone,
depending on what part of town you're at.
So, of course, allergies got to kick in immediately.
No, no respite from the allergies, huh?
No.
And I used to, I had never had allergies when I was younger.
when I got older and just started.
Dude, me too.
That's a weird thing, huh?
I wonder how that works.
Old age sucks.
Oh, guys.
The government is fucking with you, man.
Oh, no.
Let's not go there.
It's the fluoride in the drinking water and shit.
Oh, man.
Well, hey, we don't have any new patrons, unfortunately, from our promotion.
But I want to give a shout out to our main man, Al Ramzer.
he is uh he's upped his his patronage what um yeah he wants to get another t-shirt and a shitload of
coosies and uh and oh that wasn't a pretty good deal actually yeah yeah yeah let's keep it going
let's keep it going what do you guys think yeah for at least another week or two yeah at this rate
another year or two right come on but also i want to i want to say thank you to all the followers on
our main Facebook page
because I believe
sometime in February
we were around 4,000
and you jumped all the way up to
we're about to hit 18,000
what
how does that happen?
I don't know
Brian you did something dude
you sold your soul to the devil or something
what's the secret?
Well we'll talk about a movie about the devil
in a minute but no I didn't
I got to keep my soul.
Okay.
All right.
Zuckerberg's hoarding souls because he doesn't want to have one of his own.
I would actually believe that.
Real quick, the goal I want us to set is by, I think we can do it.
By June, I would like us to hit 25,000 followers.
One million followers.
Hey, at the rate we're going, that's not unreachable at all, Brian.
Yeah, I don't know what happened
Because we were at barely 4,000 for
The life of this show
And then the past few months
It just skyrocketed
And if you think the show sucks
Come on and make it better
There you go
Let's go, man
That's our challenge
Yeah, you can
Happy to hang out with anybody
You can pitch about the show all you want
As long as you promise to come on as a guest
How about that?
Yeah, there you go.
Don't hide behind your keyboard or your phone.
Ooh, we don't like that.
Brian, you want to start out with Cool of the Week?
Yes, I actually finished a series.
And was it Fall Out or something else?
Yes, Fallout.
Okay.
I loved it.
It was awesome, wasn't it?
Yeah, I was into, I don't think there was a letdown with any episode.
the characters were great
and the way the season ended
I'm so happy they renewed it for a second season
I think second and her it sees
nice nice all right
I can't get my wife into it dude
really like yeah I like
I like forced her to watch
the first episode or two
and then she went right back to watching the Walking Dead
for the 15th time Jesus Christ
if that first episode didn't get her
then I don't say it no kidding man
well look that's my that's my cool
awesome in this show
but fucking hey dude
the ghoul and okay so look
I've seen just the first episode
okay and I did that on purpose
I was going to go to the second one
I'm like you know what there was so much shit in that
I want to savor it
I'm a bender but I want to savor this
and make it last for a while
so you know
Jesus Christ just the first episode
all right you got all that shit happening
underground and then all of a sudden you go to
Like, these groups that are kind of like nights,
but they're using technology that's been forgotten or something.
And then you go to this wild west town and they dig this dude out of the ground.
What the fuck is going on?
That opening got me.
Yeah.
And I, for the life of me, thought it was set in like the 50s.
It seemed that way, didn't it?
Like, 20078 or something.
I was like, what the hell is going on?
Yeah, it's very weird
Alternate reality stuff.
Yeah.
I'm liking it.
You guys stuck around to watch that whole
end credit song, right?
Yeah.
That's hilarious, man.
I don't know.
Oh, is it Richard cheese, Brian?
Sounds like him.
Oh, is it?
Okay, that's awesome.
I think so.
You got to check it out.
I like him.
And then I also checked out
because we were watching Abigail for the show.
Angus Cloud, who passed away.
He had another movie come out that he filmed.
I think this and Abigail was one of the final two things he filmed,
and it was your lucky day.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
Not bad.
Yeah, one bad.
Kind of questions, if you had the opportunity to get millions of dollars
from a lottery ticket.
what would you do for the ticket?
How far would you go?
So I thought it was pretty good.
Other than Angus, I didn't really recognize anybody from the cast.
So it was kind of an unknown cast, which was, I think, a good thing.
Yeah.
So pretty good story.
Well, there was a couple of the old guys that were recognizable, right?
Are you talking about the people that were coming after the ticket?
Yeah.
Yeah, there was a couple guys.
I kind of recognized, but they were more so.
Oh, you're that guy from that movie.
Yeah.
So I recommend that one.
And then I also got a chance to check out, which is now on Shudder,
Late Night with the Devil.
Oh, is it on Shudder now?
Damn it, I really want to watch that one.
Fantastic movie.
It just, I really felt like I was watching something from the 70s,
just the way it was from home.
They did a great job.
They even cropped off the size.
They had, you know, the black bars on the size because, you know, everything wasn't full-screen HD 4K like it is now.
Right, right.
And the, I still can't say, David Dalsmaltzmultz.
Sure.
We'll take it.
We'll take it.
There you go.
He was great.
I really bought him as a late-night show host.
And the little possessed girl, she was great, too, because the moment she appeared on screen,
just the way she was looking at the camera.
I was like, whoa.
I'm starting to really like that dude as an actor.
Yeah, he's under,
I believe this is his first actual,
like, he's the lead.
Starring role?
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's kind of great in everything that he's in.
Yeah.
Yeah, he usually plays kind of like a creepy guy,
but in this one,
like,
he played this part perfectly, right?
Like, he's Johnny Carson, basically.
They even brought up the Rove.
Yeah.
they did didn't they yeah they were they're pulling from like some real
well hit me gross yeah we don't need yeah
release real theories conspiracy theory type stuff for the movie so
yeah recommended uh lance since you're doing fallout for your cool of the week i'll do
late night with the devil for mind nice all right well brian what did you think about the
skeptic in that he he stole the show at times he was great
he was just i love the way they were showing how he
he was just taking apart every little thing.
He was like, oh, you did this, and you used hypnotism to fool the crowd.
And there's a logical explanation for everything.
And then he kind of gets his in the end.
That's the problem with the skeptic mindset.
It's like eventually the skepticism, you have to reach further to find that than you do the actual truth.
Like the UFO thing.
Absolutely. Yes.
Are the aliens? I don't know.
But there's definitely something there.
Like, that's a real thing.
Yeah. People try to say that it's like woo-woo or whatever, right?
When there's hard evidence, like film of planes chasing something and things like that.
Yeah.
And like legitimate military pilots that are like, yeah, there's these things out there.
We don't know what the fuck they are.
Well, yeah, the truth is always somewhere in the middle, right?
yeah there's always three sides of the truth uh this person's the other persons and the actual truth
that's yeah man fuck yeah but i thought everybody was great in it even the the little sleazy like
studio exec guy that was just like we just got to get we just come on we just keep doing
keep going with it you know it's good for the ratings good for the right he he was chain smoking through
the whole movie brian yeah well
the 70s. True. True. Yeah. Everybody chain smoked, right? Like three-year-old toddlers were walking around
chain-smoking. Yeah. So if anybody hasn't seen it, I 100% recommended. It came on Shutter, I think,
last Friday, so check it out. Well, there you go, Philip. Late Night with the Devil.
Yeah, I know what I'm doing after this. Um, all right. Well, I, uh, as always, I've got all kinds of movies
bouncing around in my head that I can't remember what I watched.
But I did,
since we were doing Let the Right One and I watched Let Me In right after I watched that one.
And it's pretty much a shot for shot remake.
I'll probably get into that a little more in the review.
But still enjoy it.
Great movie.
And I checked out The Gentleman on Netflix.
The series.
Yeah, it's a series.
with uh what's his name
the British guy
Guy Ritchie
the British guy
I thought so
that's gonna give you shit
80% of Hollywood right now
I know
but you know
Guy Ritchie dude
he's quintessential
and it
it feels especially
the first few episodes
feel very
very
guy Ritchie
you know
you ever seen the movie
gotta see it
uh
is that the one with
Matthew McConahey
yes
Charlie Hanna
yes okay yeah
okay
Is that what that's based off?
Yeah, it's just, I think, a continuation.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, no, I remember the movie vaguely,
but I remember it being very Guy Ritchie, too, man.
He's got a certain style.
He's like a British Quentin Tarantino.
He's very dialogue-heavy and, you know, British gangsters and stuff.
And he does it well.
I like it.
Cool.
A lot like Snatch.
I will definitely check it out.
He's one of my favorite movies of all time.
They've got the whole gypsy boxers.
Oh, I'm sorry, Travelers.
Yes.
Gypsy boxers, I got you.
And all that stuff in it, man.
It's pretty entertaining.
And the lead character is that he was four in that, God damn it, that movie series,
the Divergent stuff.
Okay, I got you.
Yeah, he played like the lead in that one.
I didn't know he was actually British.
Well, like I said.
That makes sense.
80, probably 90% of Hollywood
majority of movies you're watching, you end up finding
out that person's British or Austrian.
He carries it well.
There's a few people that you've seen in there.
The groundskeeper is from a lot of other
Guy Ritchie movies.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's, it was a, it was,
a fun time. I liked it. And G. and Carlo Esposito
is in there, right? Let me guess. Oh, yeah.
He's in everything right now.
He's like to Sam Jackson. That guy does
not seem to go to anything.
This could literally be his character
from Breaking Bad, just like
later. That's what I figured.
Still having to start
the series on AMC, where he's
the car driver, the transport,
type driver was it parish oh yeah i don't know about that parish yeah the guy's everywhere yeah
yeah he's in ever like he was in the movie we watched today
of course he was every time i turn tv on he's on it so is that is it gonna be the gentleman
philip yeah that's my cool of the week okay the gentleman brian can you hit us with some news man
let me see if i can pull some up because
It seemed like it was another slow week.
Oh, no.
Seems like they hit all the news all in one week,
and then the rest of the month is just nothing.
A little bit here, a little bit there, huh?
Yeah.
Well, summertime's coming up, though,
so we should get some news soon, I would imagine.
Yeah, I'm expecting when San Diego Comic-Con hits.
Yeah, and that's always the time.
That is true.
Yep.
Uh, can't think.
Zach Krieger's follow-up to Barbarian is called Weapons.
We talked about that with Pedro Pascal.
I believe he's, no, that's the movie he had to drop out because he's pre-
Yes, somebody dropped out.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Well, Julia Garner from Ozark has joined the cast.
She's a pretty damn good actress.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot, girl.
Yeah, the little tiny print.
Yeah, I like her.
She's pretty good.
Let's see.
The Strangers Chapter 1 gets the R rating, which is a good thing.
I was hoping for it, not a PG-13 rating.
That would have been terrible.
I like, by the way, Brian, I love your May and June schedule, dude.
You're hitting this with new movies almost every week.
Yes.
It's that season.
Tis the season.
Gotcha. I think we talked about this one before when we reviewed the trailer.
M. Knight-Sharmalun's daughter, Ishaun Knight-Sharmalun's directorial debut of The Watchers,
gets moved up to June 7th from June 14th.
Okay.
That one looks interesting.
Yeah, I saw that trailer. I'm curious.
Is it going to be like that Twilight Zone episode where they're basically in an alien zoo?
That's my guess.
They're being watched by aliens, like in their zoo on the spacecraft or something like that?
Well, I know it takes place in Ireland in the forest.
Oh, then it's going to be the little people.
I am pairing it with unwelcome since we've seen it, but we did not review it.
All right.
You hear that, Tim?
We're going to talk about unwelcome, one of your favorite fucking movies from last year.
We got an official cast update for 28 years.
years later, it is Ray Fines, Jody Comer, and Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Okay.
So it looks like no Charlie Hunnam or...
No Jacks, huh?
You think he would have used his actual British accent since he's in a British movie?
You would hope so?
Well, he's been in British movies before, but we had an American accent, right?
Yeah, it's so weird.
It's a weird guy.
It's not an American accent.
Like,
the American,
the American dialect
is so diverse that you can kind of
do whatever and you're just like,
sure, we'll roll with it. That makes sense.
But then when you realize he's British,
you're like, oh, okay, I get it.
If you go back and watch
like Sons of Anarchy,
the scenes where he like
gets like really emotional and like
if he's like angry
or sad and he's like yelling, you hear it, you hear the British come out.
The British comes out, huh?
Yeah, you hear, you hear the whatever accent he's doing for Jacks.
You hear it break when he gets emotional.
Well, I guess technically that's what a lot of American accents are,
is just like British and, you know, that Great Britain area, like, transgressing over here
and turning into different things.
Yeah.
Like the whole southern accent is actually like Scottish, I think.
I can see that.
My wife was watching a series that she found.
I don't know if it's on Netflix or something like that,
but it was called Young Americans,
like an older series.
You got heard of it?
Yeah.
And he showed up in that.
He had his British accent.
I think he was like a British student
at an American school.
or something like that.
And she was watching them like, that's Jack's.
But he had his British accent for that.
Well, speaking of Guy Ritchie,
they did that stupid King Arthur movie, which was dumb.
That was terrible.
But it was actually kind of fun.
You didn't like Jack's shadow boxing?
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of like what they did with it.
I had fun with that movie.
It was a stupid concept.
And it probably should have never been made,
but I had done with it.
Well, whatever works for you, man.
I thought it was fucking horrible.
I like Guy Ritchie movies, man.
I think that's it.
I'm not really seeing anything.
We'll have a bigger news week next week, right?
Yeah, hopefully.
All right.
All right, Philip, Brian.
If I know Brian at all,
I know that he's about to bring us the big,
the small,
And sometimes the very, very weird.
Hey.
Brian, what's our first new trailer tonight, man?
The Exorcism starring Russell Crow.
It's that Russell Crow playing Russell Crow?
As I picked it up and looked at it and I was like,
didn't we already watch this movie?
You know what it reminds me of?
What's that?
It's like if they made a movie out of an episode of that Shutter series Curse film.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally, man.
Totally.
Which I'm kind of digging the premise that he's this actor in a movie and strange shit is happening and people are trying to figure out what's going on.
And it just really gave me curse film vibes.
And from what I understand, this film is going to be R-rated.
Yeah, no, I love the concept.
When I said, didn't we already watch this?
It was because he was just in that exorcism movie.
Father M. Orth or whatever, right?
Yeah, this could be like a continuation of that movie.
I thought it was.
They just said cut and then...
I like what they did with the concept, though.
That's cool.
It's like, oh, okay, now it's interesting.
I'll totally watch this.
Maybe the director went full Owey Bowl
and, like, filmed three different movies
using the same characters and the same sets and everything,
and this is like the second in the trilogy.
Trying to see who is.
the director.
This is like the blabarella of the three, right?
Well, because I didn't, I never actually,
I never really gave it a legitimate shot,
that last one with Russell Crow in it.
But it's because,
exorcist.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't hate it.
It's just varied by the numbers.
I found a shit copy when it first came out
and my daughter wanted to watch it.
And so we turned it on.
And after watching what we could
from that, you know, movie, you know, video camera and a movie theater version of it.
It was, I was like, I kind of don't want to watch this movie anymore.
Oh, boy.
On Netflix on stuff.
Yeah.
No, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's on Netflix and I haven't even checked it out.
I'm like, man.
It made decent movie.
I saw another.
I hear them trying to make a trilogy out of it.
Like still?
Yeah.
It made money out of theater.
Uh-huh.
I didn't think it was bad.
It's just, like I said, it's very by the numbers, exorcism.
Yeah.
Religious horror.
Yeah, you've got to do something cool with horror at this point.
Yeah, like what Immaculate did.
Or like what late night with the devil did for that matter.
Yeah.
That's something different and creative.
That should be what horror is, creative, right?
Let me see the cast.
Sam Worthington, Samantha Mathis, Adam Goldberg,
Chloe Bailey, David Hyde Pierce,
Adrian Pestar.
He looks like that guy from that show heroes,
the politician guy that could fly.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the brother to find out loud.
The guy that was in that show
that Amman used to give the greatest reviews of.
This is us or whatever
Oh Milo, bad Milo
Yeah, it was
This is us
Right, right
Ammon used to walk us
Through every episode
He took an hour and 20 minutes
To describe it
One hour episode
But it was like
The greatest
Review of a show
That I was
What was
I was
I know
I've seen an episode here
There
I understand
The official
is that I'm not excited about watching it though
Phil if you would have heard his reviews
you just like even if you were watching the show
you would not watch the show
just to listen to his description of each episode
there you go
I'll try
the episode I've done that before
I'll try to Brian I don't even have time to
to put up the re- uploads that I've had sitting
on my desktop for the last three months
so I probably won't have time
but if I do Philip I'll find
I'll find you one of the episodes to listen to and send it to you.
All right.
You don't need to watch the show.
You don't need to just listen to it's with you.
All right.
There you go.
Better than the show, that's for damn sure.
The Exorcism comes to theaters June 7th.
Let's do it.
I like this concept.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
And on to our final trailer, which is a movie I
felt like we just talked about.
And then they dropped the trailer.
You covered it in news.
Maybe two weeks ago, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Which is M. Night Shyamalan's Trap, starring Josh Hartman.
It sounds fucking horrible.
You didn't like the trailer?
Nah, not really.
Why?
You've been like the biggest M-9.
I know.
That's what, that's what worries me.
So what, well, you guys talk about it.
I want to hear what you.
thing. I kind of dig that they already told us that he's the killer. Yeah. And he knows that they're
sending it. And people are getting so upset that, oh, they gave us the twist already. No, that's the hook to get you in.
Yeah, for sure, that's not the twist. You know that. It's going to be something insane at the end.
And I am, I think Josh Hartman is an underrated actor. Yeah.
What?
Yeah, totally.
You think he's a good actor or a bad actor?
Just, I'm listening.
Let me be quiet.
No, no.
I'm going on mute now.
Come here to hear your opinion, Lance.
You can't.
No, dude, Josh Hartnett, what's one really great thing he's done?
I mean, this guy's not going to win an Oscar anytime soon.
He was good in Oppenheimer.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
He was serviceable.
Even Dave DeHaan wasn't very.
wasn't very good at Opin Hocer.
I don't even remember him in Offenhawk.
Date DeHan is Dane Dahan in every movie.
Heroin Junkie, right?
He's his own character.
He's just playing himself.
Well, I'm digging the concept.
I'm anticipating the twist.
All right.
And I just like to see that I just anticipating,
I can see that there's showing.
knowing us how he's like the typical dad telling the dad jokes and doing the fist bumps and
yeah he's a good dad taking his daughter to her first concert and stuff like that i'm anticipating
the other side that that we're told that he is this the the butcher this serial killer
sure and i'm just looking forward to the to the twist because yeah because that's i guarantee you that
shit's revealed in the first 20 minutes of the movie.
Yeah.
And the whole movie is going to be
about him trying to avoid the police.
And I kind of want
to see how he
manages...
Yeah, and I also want to find
out how did they know
the killer is going to be at this concert?
Just a little,
lots of little things I just want to know
that I hope the movie gives us
throughout the story.
So, I mean...
I got you, man. Yeah, fair.
enough. On the surface, it looks like your run-of-the-mill crime mystery thriller where he's trying to evade
the police and they're slowly going to release bits of what actually happened in the story
until you get to the end. And then maybe there's going to be a twist like, oh, the good guy isn't
really who you think it is, kind of a thing. But knowing M. Knight-Shaw Malon, this could end up
being some whole, like he's playing a fucking
video game or something.
I heard it
I heard a cool theory
that he's not the butcher.
That the butcher is another killer
that he just happens to be at the same
concert with.
Oh, and maybe he's
kind of worried about him
getting caught because they're looking for a different
person.
Or maybe he's
trying to find out too.
I don't know.
Well, and we're just trying to figure out the plot of the movie.
Yeah, what if the butcher is the guy on his phone that he's got chained up?
Yeah, like he could be the good guy in this situation, which I'm sure he probably is,
or if you think that he's the bad guy, I'm telling you, it's going to be something fucking unhinged at the end of it.
It's going to be some alternate reality fucking VR thing.
Yeah, and never tell the T-E-R.
shirt guy
what's going on
because that guy's not
keeping it
a hush on it
yeah that's
true his job is to talk to people
so Lance
what did you not like about this
you know
I'm gonna I'm gonna
I'm in a reserved judgment
until we see the movie
because I know we're going to
right?
Yeah
well you know it's either
going to be like spectacularly good or really bad.
You know what?
It doesn't look really bad.
It's probably,
it's probably going to be good.
I'll,
I'll give you that, guys.
I'll give you that. It's probably going to be a good movie, but
I don't know.
Like I said, when you talked about it in news, Brian, I said it's almost
like the exact same setup for the end of the
Mr. Mercedes book, the Stephen King
book. So maybe I'm just like thinking,
oh shit you know they're they're redoing something that they've already done in a book but it's a different movie different stories so fuck it all right i'm see i'll give it a shot
that's what i'm saying being m night that's that's directing that you know it's not going to be what you think it is
like it's he's not copying somebody else that's not his style he's a creative dude true true
and i'm looking at the cast list the only one i'm seeing here that i recognize his other daughter
is playing the singer.
What's his other daughter's name? I'm curious.
His other daughter, okay. That's the one I'm confused with this one.
I'm going to probably mispronounce. Salika,
Shamalan.
Okay. She doesn't have the knight.
But what was the other one? Ishina?
Yeah, Ishanna or something like that?
Ishanna, Ishanna Knight Shamelon? Is that her name?
Yeah. Okay.
She's the film director.
This one that's in this movie playing the singer is actually.
actually a singer in real life.
Oh, look at that.
I think I read somewhere the music
and this is going to actually be her music.
Okay. That's cool.
Hey, man, those Indian families
pushing their kids. This is what happens.
So we need to be something to do it, right?
It's this why we're getting behind.
That's what I'm saying.
That's another conversation.
So trap comes out
August 9th in theaters.
Well, hopefully you'll like it, Lance, because I'm kind of shocked.
I'm kind of shocked because a lot of people hate it all.
You were like kind of, yeah.
Yeah, I do.
M. Knights rarely let me down.
I mean, he has a few times, but for the most part, I'm sure it's going to be good.
Like I said, I just keep it.
I got to get it out of my mind that they're trying to rip off Mr. Mercedes and just go with it, you know.
And you like all the movies that most people don't.
that stupid lady of the lake one
I did I liked it
so put that on the back of a Lord Returns T-shirt
I keep wanting to go back and watch it
just to see what you liked about it
but I just end up telling myself
oh there's other things to watch
I just remember the guy with the one big arm
you better be careful Brian or you might all of a sudden
have this strange patron
sign up name like lucky
Lombardini or something
that makes us watch it.
We're going to watch all the shitty Mnight movies.
The Village,
that's got to be on there, right?
That's one of my favorites of his.
That's what I'm saying.
You like all the ones that everybody hates.
Wow.
One of your favorites.
Dude, yes.
I've loved it.
All right, that's the trailer part.
On to listener feedback.
I apologize.
that you have to suffer through my voice
right now because I'm on the sixth side, but
we'll get there.
Before you do, though, there's
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Brian, you sent me the link.
You want to do the honors for
Sarah before?
That's for next week, Lance.
Oh, shit. Okay.
Tune in next week for that.
Your biggest trip confused you.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
did it ever. We're going to call that a teaser.
So this week...
Shout out of Sarah before, though.
Yeah. And this week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on cast of the living
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Sit down to review and discuss various films in the horror genre.
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Matt Wood says,
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What are he saying about Brits in our haircuts?
You Yanks created the mullet.
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The mullet was actually created by the Fisher people of Iceland,
then became popular in the universities of Poland.
Then American South took it and invented it as a sign of freedom.
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The more you know.
There it is.
History of the mullet.
Things you never thought you'd want to know.
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Air of the Witch.
I believe I posted the trailer,
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And excuse Lance getting eyes for his dream.
I feel like I've
strolled across that.
I don't want to watch it now.
I think it's relatively,
I think it's so old or any.
I'm going to go look for it.
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Marcy Campandria says,
this one you don't want to miss.
We broke Kevin Nez a few times.
Yes, he told me.
What did they do, set him off?
He just was, he said they're a hilarious group.
Oh, they are fun.
Jen Nangle says, I got to talk to Travis Bruce recently on his podcast or Rome,
chatting about being a hashtag women in horror and body count.
Check out our killer discussion.
It's been a while since we had Jed on the show.
I know. We should totally do that.
We had to review a couple of her movies.
Yeah. Or maybe we can send us a screen at a body count.
Yeah.
Just want to talk about it, promote it.
And then I'm going to have to try and be nice.
Regarding the Omen, Donald Muzio says the new prequel does a pretty good job of setting
up the omen, although they do make one big change.
Tim Spencer Lane says it's the nanny's expression and voice that does it for me every time.
Absolute contentment.
What was the one big change?
I don't remember.
I remember, I think it's why Ness gave it a low score.
Oh, okay.
It didn't line up with the original omen.
Oh, all right.
that's okay
I still like what they do
but
fair enough right
yeah
um
regarding
got enough
ice lance
oh yeah
I didn't hit my mute
did I
uh
regarding it
um
Richard C
Richard J
de Czar
sorry
I'm almost done with the book
it's over 1,100 pages
It's incredible how much was left out of the movie.
Oh, really?
I've never read the book,
but I know there's some questionable...
Oh, with Beverly.
Yeah, kid gangbang scenes.
Yikes! Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
You could never put that in a movie.
Yeah.
I would prefer they didn't.
Like, I almost want to read the book for that,
but then I almost don't want to read the book for that.
I have the audio book downloaded, but I just never listen to it.
When you're reading it, and I've read the book twice,
it's not as cringy as you would think it would be.
It's as tastefully done as you can be.
At least they're all kids, right?
They didn't have a grown-up in there leading them.
Well, I guess that's true.
Hey, dude, come on, dude.
You're telling me when you're 14, you wouldn't have wanted to get laid.
Come on.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it becomes the coming of age.
Yeah.
Until you realize it's a, you know.
See it on the screen.
Your old dude writing it.
See it on the screen is kind of different.
Yeah.
Oh, true.
So true.
I don't know how tastefully you can make it look.
Not very.
Anyways, moving on.
Regarding the Maxine poster,
Alan Lawless says it looks like a good Harley Quinn
cosplay.
It does a little bit when you look at the one with the smeared makeup and all that.
And that's it for listener feedback this week.
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Oh, yeah, what happened?
I think he had some nasal surgery, I think he said.
Oh, shit.
Oh, he's been a little under the weather trying to recoup from it.
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Lance, I don't think they made any for
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As long as they didn't make any
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We don't want too many of those folks
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What was that director's name
again, Brian? The director. Oh, Cheapest,
creepers? Yeah. There's Fonco
Pops for the Creeper. Yeah,
hopefully not for the director of the film, though.
That would be weird. That's the
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I honestly don't know his name.
I kind of...
Nes could tell us.
I kind of blocked his name out of my head.
Okay.
Oh, I'm sure if we only knew half of them in the industry.
True.
Oh, Nickelodeon.
Moving on.
All right.
So, on to featured attractions.
Let's see.
This week, we'll learn to be careful around vampire girls
as we check out the brand-new Abigail,
as well as the original
Let the right one in
Man, tongue tie today, I'm sorry
That is a tongue twister, yeah.
Words are hard.
I know, man.
I'm pretty medicated right now.
Oh, okay.
All right, let the right one in from 2008.
Had you picked all me and though.
Be looblee with me.
Oscar, an overlooked and bullied boy,
finds love and
Revenge. God damn it. You see what I'm saying? Revenge through
What is her name? Ellie and is that the way they pronounce it in the movie?
Eli, I think. I think they pronounce it. I don't know.
Eli, whatever. I mean, dude, what is this? Okay. Is this Danish, Lars? This is a Denmarkian movie?
Swedish. Okay. All right.
We'll go with Ellie.
Anyway. We'll Americanize it.
A beautiful but peculiar girl.
Director is Thomas Alfredson, also known for Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy.
Writer is John Lindvist.
Probably not how you say that.
Probably Lindquist.
Yeah, there you go.
I love gold!
I can barely speak in English right now.
I'm not going to try to do accents.
Also known for handling the undead.
That sounds dirty.
That does sound dirty.
That's what we were just talking about.
Several tricks were used to create the right sound effects for some of the goreier scenes.
Biting into sausages was used to replicate biting into skin and flesh.
And drinking yogurt was used to sound like drinking blood.
That's gross.
Oh, boy.
That's just creative, though.
I know.
I don't know why it's it's grosser than drinking blood, but it seems
Yeah, I know shit.
Like we're talking about that like it's horrible, right?
The sound of the children blinking was made by the skin of grapes rubbing together
And an almost blinking motion.
Huh.
I didn't notice that.
The word vampire is only said in the film once.
Yes, I did notice that.
Yes.
Okay.
all right uh brian we'll start with you what did you think about let the right one in
this is a great vampire film i think it's like probably top ten vampire films ever made
i just love so that's saying a lot yeah i just love the how different the story is
because it's basically a romantic vampire movie because you get this troubled kid this bully kid
yeah and then you get this who you think of it's
as a little girl and you kind of find out
she's not a little girl. She's
a very old vampire and they just
kind of have this, they kind of
find each other at the time when they kind
of needed somebody.
I just thought that was kind of a beautiful
part to the story.
And I love the
they use
some of the mythology to the movie.
Obviously it's in the title
to let me in because I love
that scene when he didn't invite her in and she
forced their way in and what was happening to her?
I don't think we
ever really seen that as far
as I can think of in a vampire movie
because usually they just don't come in.
Yeah. Well, Fright Night, right?
Fright Night where the
mother let him in and he's like,
Mom, why did you let him in?
Well, no, I mean, what
could happen to the vampire.
Yeah, the rule's already there, but you've never seen
the consequences. Yeah.
Sure. Sure.
I loved Ellie.
I loved her portrayal of the vampire
because
you can tell she doesn't
want to kill people.
Even the guy, the older
gentleman that's kind of like her
her, I guess, handler
or whatever gets her food. He doesn't want to do
this shit either.
And everybody's just kind of conflicted
into what they're doing, but they
got to do what they got to do.
And a lot of
the effects were really good too.
have a question about the old guy so
I watched this and then watch
let me in right after
Richard Jenkins was great
wasn't yeah yeah
but so in
and let me in she's really fucking mean to that guy
well she wasn't really mean to him in this one
was she to yeah to me and let me in
it was a little more obvious that
you know the vampire was actually
younger, I'm sorry, older than the quote-unquote father, right?
Yeah.
It wasn't as clear in this one, or did I miss that?
I think it's, they explained it a little bit more that he met her in the remake.
He met her when she was younger.
Right.
Kind of was given this position, this job to care for her.
Well, right.
And that's what I assumed in this one, too.
I think it's the same thing.
I just think she,
this version of Ellie treated him
less harshly.
Yes, that's what I meant.
I think in the remake,
they just kind of
grew apart over time.
Yeah, they changed a couple of little things
in the remake, but didn't change the,
you know, the heart of the story.
Sure.
Or the main scenes and stuff like that, right?
Yeah.
But I just had, I had that question
because I was like, man, I don't remember her being such an asshole of this guy.
Right?
Yeah, I think.
Closing great experience.
Even though he was conflicted in what he was doing and didn't want to do it,
I think he still cared for her because you've got that scene where he's about to get caught by the police
and he just pour his acid on his face so he can.
Yeah.
So they want to know who he was.
So, you know, they wouldn't be led to where she was.
Those are really tense scenes in this one, too.
Yeah.
And Lance, you get real fire in this one.
Not CGI fire.
Yeah, the lady that knows what she finally realizes what she is and what she has to do and she doesn't want to do it.
So she just has the nurse open the blinds.
Well, that's okay, Brian, because we get CGI.
We get CGI enhanced cats.
Yeah.
The special effects, maybe were not the greatest in this one.
Not on the cats.
Well, the CGI wasn't the greatest.
I think some of the practicals were.
Brian, Brian, what did you think about the swimming pool scene?
Was that not filmed beautifully?
Yeah, don't be a fucking bully.
Or you get your head locked off and you're missing an arm or whatever the fuck was going on.
That was great.
The movie kind of pisses you off because this kid is being bullied and you're kind of seeing what he could be turned into.
because I think
because he has a fascination with death
he's like got newspaper clippings of murders
and stuff and I think it's all led from him
being constantly bullied and picked
on every day
sure and then it pissed me off when he
finally just whacked that kid
in the head with that stick
but he still gets in trouble for it
well of course he did but that was totally worth it
but yeah
fantastic over
raw film. I love the direction.
Some of the shots, like you said,
I think you brought it up, lens were
beautiful.
So, I thought the acting was pretty
solid because, you know,
kid actors could really derail the
film sometimes, but I thought
I thought for the most
Yeah, very weird.
Yeah. I think he was cast
perfectly, because when you... He was
cast perfectly. When you see him, you're
like, oh, this is the fucking vampire right here,
this fucking kid. Yeah, I thought you
said he was Casper and I was like, you're right.
But then you find out he's like kind of meek and bullied and he just, I thought he just
kind of played the role perfect.
And then Ellie just kind of looked like a child, but I don't know.
I think she played it off pretty.
Yeah.
You come off like a child sometimes.
So yeah, I really enjoyed this one.
Lance, what do you think?
Yeah, it was a great story, you know, very original.
right for a vampire story and i actually saw let me in first and i'm like wow this movie's incredible
and i think let me in is directed by matt rebes right it's doing all the you know most most
recently he's most famous for all the planet of the eight the new planet of the apes movies
uh he did uh the batman with robert patinson did the batman that's right that's right
come on brain ten cloverfield lane or cloverfield now i think he did cloverfield
original.
That's what makes sense.
They're both pretty good.
They're both really good. Yeah, they're both really
good. I'm not, you know, meaning to draw
comparisons and everything. Now,
you guys are right. The kid
was cast perfectly, like, super
Oscar or whatever. He was like
super, super, super weird. But I
sorry, guys. I don't know.
Sounded a little Irish there, Lance.
Okay. I don't know if it was just
one particular scene
where you could really see how
dramatic the cuts
on his hair wear, but I thought, oh my God,
this is fucking simple jack.
I don't know.
Then when he did that weird thing with his mouth,
like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, distorting his mouth.
Yeah, a weird kid, man, weird kid.
I think he was supposed to be weird a little different.
Obviously, sure, sure.
I get it.
And then, you know, the weird, you know, gender,
uncertainty about the vampire.
From what I understand, they go into a lot more
detail in the novel.
Because I think the novel explains that
it was originally a
male who was
castrated, right?
To like serve under a vampire
or something like that, they didn't
totally go into that, but I kind of
enjoyed that, no, I kind of enjoyed that gender
uncertainty. It was kind of weird
and it sort of kept you off balance.
I didn't take it that way at all. That's weird.
that's weird because when you're talking about it sorry Phil now that you're talking about it the the whole i'm not a woman
yeah maybe i don't know maybe in this mythology you don't have a gender when you're a vampire or something
it's fascinating right the way it like when she said i'm not a girl i took it to mean that she's not
a human exactly that's exactly what or she could
You could be telling him I'm not a girl.
I'm really fucking old woman.
Well, yeah.
That's true, too.
And did, was it just me that I was so stoned when I watched it last night?
Or were there, like, scenes where it would, like, change to maybe a man in costume?
Or was I trippin?
I think you were trippin.
Okay.
I mean, maybe for the stunt doubles, but I don't think so.
Maybe.
Okay.
Well, it wasn't like a full-blown.
I'm going to get you suck of, right?
No.
She got mustache.
And especially since we're watching it in a foreign language,
and sometimes the translations may come across a little different.
And so when she said, I'm not a girl, that was, that was, like,
I didn't take it to me and I'm not a, I'm not a, like, female.
I'm just, I'm not a person.
I'm dead.
You know?
And maybe it was something that was lost in translation a little bit.
Although they did it and let me in also.
Yeah.
Great. I'm just kind of thinking back to all.
I think just little parts of the story just kind of were clicking for me.
Just the whole, like, she originally tried to refuse the friendship with him
because she knows she can't have a normal friendship.
Yeah.
Just little parts like that, I think we're just adding to the story for me.
Yeah, for me, that swimming pool scene just did it.
Like, when I was like, you know, this movie's a little slow.
I love slow burn, but this is a little too slow burn.
And then you got that fucking big.
brother bully and he pushes his head
under the water and he's holding his head
and then you see all that carnage
going on and I'm like you see
the feet just go through
the swimming pool. Yes.
I like how she left, if you
notice she left the third kid there
alive.
Yeah, I have a witness right? It's just fucking crying
his eyes out. Right.
He'll never be the same.
I enjoyed it. A great
pick, Brian. Dude, you really
you are very good, Brian.
at lining up the movies because
this fit perfectly
into the next one.
Tell me more about myself, Lance.
Yeah, man,
I love this movie. I watched
it originally. I watched it
first before Let Me Inn
came out, I think,
because I heard so much buzz around
it, and it is,
it's a beautiful movie, man.
I think the original
catches something
even though it's a shot-for-shot remake,
the original catch is something that's a little more unique,
like the atmosphere is different.
There's something different about this one
that makes it a better movie.
And part of it may be because it isn't a foreign language,
which is cool, you know?
It makes it seem very like in the lore, you know?
Yeah, I got you.
I totally get it, man.
And I think, yeah, I think the kids did a great job.
It's kind of a coming of age, kind of a love story.
And it's like, you know, I bought it, you know.
Like they worked out well together, even though the vampire is probably thousands of years old or whatever.
But this also genuinely seemed like the first, like, real connection that that girl had had.
Yeah, I like how they had their own little way.
I like the way they had their own way of communicating with the little Mars code.
Yeah, that was cool.
Oh, that was pretty cool, right?
Where it was tapping on the wall there so they could talk.
Yeah.
So they never really give you a backstory for the old guy.
I kind of took it.
Go ahead.
Is that maybe who the old guy was?
You know what I mean?
Like a past boyfriend who just takes care of her forever?
That's how I took it.
Yeah. Okay.
And so this is going to be the new old guy?
Yeah, except I think he, I don't think he'll have a issue with protecting her and doing things for her.
Just the way the kind of bond was growing, I think eventually, and his, of course, obsession with death and murder.
I think it's a bond that's not going to fade away as he gets older.
I think he's just going to continue to help her.
At least that's just how I see it playing out.
Yeah, I think this is the new old guy.
So maybe she's done this over and over again.
And that's how she gets me old guys.
I think you're right, dude.
Totally do, man.
Totally got that impression.
But yeah, man, it was a really interesting, unique vampire story.
I liked it. I didn't know it was a book.
Yeah, I think I guess it was a book and then, you know, you get two movies out of it and a TV series that, what, only lasted the season, Brian?
Yeah, I watched like three or four episodes. It was pretty good.
Okay.
But then, you know, the networks, if it doesn't hit certain numbers, we'll just cancel it.
And I think they even did that thing where they just pulled it off of those. I think it was Showtime.
I think they just pulled it off so you can't even stream it.
What?
So I can't even go watch it now?
Yeah, which I think is stupid because I think things later kind of find an audience.
Yeah, no doubt.
I mean, imagine them just pulling Hannibal off because they can't.
I was thinking the same exact thing, dude, Hannibal.
That's the first thing I thought too.
I mean, I'm not comparing it to Hannibal.
Hannibal is a fucking great show.
Subscribe to our Patreon to listen to those reviews, but.
I thought it was worth a watch at least, you know, for our first season.
Not, you know, you should, I don't think it should have been pulled from the streaming platforms.
I never saw the show.
Check it out.
Yeah.
It gets more in-depth than the relationship.
I think in the show, it's the actual father-daughter.
Hmm.
All right.
I'll give it some thought, but if they're going to only do it in one season and then leave you on the, unlike a cliffhanger, fuck that shit.
Not interesting.
Well, it felt like an A24 movie to me.
Yeah, I can see that.
All right.
Scores, Brian?
Easy 9 on 10.
Damn.
Lance?
I'll go 7 and a half on this one.
All right.
I'm going to go 9.
also.
This is
one of my favorites
that I watched that year.
Yeah, it's
it gives you all the familiar vampire
things, but yet is also original
in the story.
It's real slow. You've got to be in the mood for it,
but it's a real good movie.
Yeah. Don't be a fucking bully.
Well,
at some point you go past bully
and you're into like criminal
sociopath territory.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
All right.
That's kind of
overkill there, huh? Is that, is that
like a Swedish thing? I know we had some
bullies, but they weren't like that.
What bullies and movies are?
Yeah,
I don't know. I just,
I don't like bullies, and then I just
like seeing them get their comeuppance, especially
the kids, the kid that gets,
popped in the head with stick.
His older brother shows up and he's the one
holding him underwater talking about
if you come up for air
and stab your eye out. Fuck that.
Where's that?
You got to have irredeemable
bad guys in the movie.
And what is this? We've got a special
guest that arrived. It's Matthew
Goodrow from percolated
media. What's up, Matthew?
Yeah, I got out of the handcuffs
and managed to find my way onto
Skype. Thank you all for having me.
again, even though it's been a while.
Very nice. Yeah.
I haven't been that long.
All right.
So a writer, podcaster, co-founder of percolated media, what you guys got going on right now, Matthew?
This year has been crazy.
We have in the process right now of closing out our, an ultimate installment of our night shift retrospective for Stephen King.
so we'll be talking about the lawnmower man two beyond cybers.
I'm sorry.
Sorry to hear that.
This whole night shift has largely been a chore,
but my fellow co-founder is the definition of completionism,
borderline sadist.
I didn't even know that was a thing, lawnmower man too.
Oh, me either, until I saw it on the schedule.
And I'm the one who makes the goddamn schedule.
So when I came back and said,
all right, we got the lawnmower man,
then we're going to close that Planet of the Apes for the new one.
He goes, nope, there's a lawnmower man's sequel.
And I said, oh, you son of a bitch.
But we got Plenty of the Aps 2.0 starting very soon to coincide with its new kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
We're going back to Star Wars this year to talk about the Disney films.
We're talking Alien this year.
Mad Max.
We got a ton of awesome retrospectives on the calendar this year.
So it's going to be one of our busier years for sure.
Very nice. Very nice. So what's your favorite out of all those that you're going to be covering?
I would say, based on what we've taped already, which is almost everything, this Planet of the Apes retrospective that we've been doing, I think, is one of our best collection of shows. It's been a property I've wanted to cover for a long time. But I have a feeling that Alien is going to make for various spirit discussions, especially if you know Garrett's thoughts on the original movie.
and I will actually retract everything I just said
because knowing my two co-hosts,
I think the Disney Star Wars era,
there's going to be body bags needed
at the end of some of these shows.
Because I know where I stand,
I don't know where they stand,
and based on the fact it's the internet and Star Wars,
there's going to be more haymakers than a Rocky movie.
I love it.
Always a fun debate.
Well, dude, we're glad you were inspired enough by Abigail to jump on, but you know how we do it around here, man.
You've got to have a cool of the week or you're not allowed to play the game.
So what's the coolest thing you've watched, read, video game you've played?
It could be anything, dude.
What is your cool of the week?
So my cool of the week is actually going a little bit retro.
I went to a local yard sale, just out of whim, looking for some stuff.
And I bought an old GameCube, which I have not.
Nice.
I haven't owned one since I was probably 11 or 12.
And I'm looking through the box of all the different games.
I grab a couple.
And I grabbed the one I want to highlight, because I haven't played it in so long.
And it's, I think, now cemented in my top 10 favorite games.
It is the 02 remake of the first Resident Evil game.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
It's probably my favorite game franchise if you forced me to pick one,
certainly in the survival horror grouping.
I know some of the games have steered more in the action way,
but I would actually argue, I think the remake of the OG
might be the best game in the series as far as, you know,
visual upgrades certainly.
They've done good remakes before,
but they kept the gameplay almost entirely identical,
fixed the hokey dialogue,
added the crimson heads to add some more tension,
and playing the game on hard mode has really tested my ability
to keep the remote control in my hands.
So it's been a good practice for me,
and it's been fun to rediscover that
because it's been so long since I played it.
That was definitely the best game of the series, though.
Like the original one, I loved playing that.
So, yeah, I played the remake a little bit,
and it was pretty awesome.
Oh, you video game nerds.
All right, well, we do have a movie to cover here.
You guys.
What do we got going on next, Philip?
All right, on to Abigail from 2024.
We've got a little bit of trivia.
You all came highly recommended.
You know the rules.
No real names.
No backstories.
No cellposs.
So whose kid is she?
A very wealthy man who's about to be $50 million poorer.
I'm here to make sure you're safe.
What's your name?
Mine's Abigail.
You can call me Joey.
Do you have any kids?
I have a little boy.
See you in 24 hours.
Do you know what a Pinky promises?
If you behave and do as we say,
like Pinky promise you.
He'll all be over soon.
Joey?
Yeah.
I'm sorry about what's going to happen to you.
After a group of criminals kidnapped,
the ballerina daughter of a powerful underworld figure,
they retreat to an isolated mansion.
unaware that they're locked inside with no normal little girl.
Directors are Matt Benetelli.
Benetelli Alpin and Tyler Gillette.
I don't know.
Writers Stephen Shields and Guy Busek.
In an interview with Total Film,
the directors felt they needed to apologize to the cast
for the volume of blood that they used on set.
They said all of our movies are bloody, but I would say this is definitely the most bloody.
We spend a lot of time apologizing to our actors in this movie.
I mean, blood is the DNA of a vampire movie, and the amount of blood work in this one,
it's pretty extreme, but it's still fun.
And yeah, I think I agree with that.
So the reason why I wanted to jump on this show is this is a movie that I went in as cold as
possible. I actually did not see the trailer, so I wasn't aware that the marketing gave away the
big reveal. Oh, wow. But I was intrigued by these directors, Radio Silence. I've been a fan of theirs
ever since I saw the first VHS, and I don't think that's a great collective anthology. I do think
their segment was the best one by far. It's the haunted house one, right? Yeah, and I've really liked
everything they've done since. I'm notorious back on the binge days, Lance, when we did the
scream sequels two through four. Didn't really care for any of them. And while I can't say
that five is great, I had a good time and six is probably my favorite of the sequels in tandem
with what they did with Ready or Not, which was also a pleasant surprise. Again, movie I didn't
know anything about. I've been championing these guys for a while in a genre that is always
always looking for new blood, no pun intended.
I think these guys have done a good job at championing and keeping this with both new
properties or old properties with, you know, bringing back scream for another time.
I've been impressed with what they do.
They seem smart.
They seem knowledgeable, but not in that smug, you know, overly meta, internet film geek
kind of way that some directors can come off.
So this was something I was.
excited about even before it was released, but like I said, I managed to avoid the trailers.
I imagine that made it a lot better movie. Oh, absolutely did. Yeah, that's a, that's a pretty big
reveal. Do you want me to give my take on the movie, like, quick 30 second thought? Yeah,
no spoilers. We'll get the spoilers later. Overall, had a really good time with it. I did have some
complaints that we'll sort of get into, but I think this is one of those great examples of having a, you know, a very
limited concept all things
considered and certainly nothing
that we have not seen before
but it's the power
one of those examples of the power of casting
in your character work
that really carries this thing.
I think they've got a great ensemble
together to add some depth
to these archetypes that we've seen
a million times.
I thought these directors had a lot of fun
with some of the tropes they play with
and in a year where I've seen
quite a few things out in the theaters
this was probably
my most enjoyable experience of the year. Not perfect by any means, but a very, very pleasant
surprise, especially after last year when you go back to our site, we did Megan just on a whim,
because Garrett wanted to talk about it because of the trailer hooked him so much, and I was really
let down by it, all things considered. This, I saw Abigail, and then I watched the trailer on
YouTube, and I wanted to smack these studio executives for... I know. I thought the same thing. I thought
the same thing. Yeah, but that's my
take. And I can understand that, but we were
actually talking about it before we even started the show
and I was like, well,
how else are you going to sell it
without making it obvious that it's a vampire money?
I think there is one thing. When we get into the actual plot, I think there's
one thing you could have sold it on that they
hint at. Brian, what'd you think?
I, despite knowing
what I know from the trailer, I
I still, just based on what the directors have done with their past movies, I was still kind of anticipating this.
And I, after watching this, I just had, I had a blast watching this.
I thought the comedy hit for me when there was comedy.
It was gory, bloody.
The cast was, I thought, great.
I enjoyed everybody in the cast.
Yeah, really good characters.
I thought they gave us enough to know each.
member of the cast, each member of this group that,
well, you already know from the trailer, the member of the group that kidnaps this little girl.
I thought we got enough to know each character.
And I thought the little girl, shit, I thought I had her name pulled up.
I thought she did a great job portraying as a vampire ballerina, and she made it a lot of fun.
And there's a lot of stuff I want to get to in spoilers.
But yeah, I had a blast with this one.
All right, Lance, what do you think?
Yeah, this is going to be one of the shortest first rounds ever
because after seeing that trailer and probably about 15 minutes into the movie,
I was fucking pissed.
I was like, fuck you!
I really honestly wish I'd gone into this not knowing that she was a vampire
and thinking she was just a poor little girl.
And maybe there's something else going on in the house,
like maybe there's a ghost or someone else in there with them,
or like a Scooby-Doo type thing where you've got to stay in there,
24 hours or whatever, but I was just so pleasantly surprised with all the twists.
And the twist didn't take that long to get going, but boy, once they started coming,
they were fast and furious one right after the other.
So I'll say this.
I don't want to say too much because I'm afraid I will accidentally spoil something.
But this may not be my favorite movie of the year so far.
That would probably go to Immaculate, but this was definitely the funnest movie in the year.
I will never live that down.
Madam Webb.
I still haven't watched Madam Webb.
I mean, that was the scariest thing I've seen all year.
I know.
Haven't seen it.
I'll never see it, Matt.
I'm going to have to come up with a bottom 10 list,
so I know I'm going to have to watch it, but I don't want to.
I would say it just because you love Dakota Johnson so much, but don't even bother.
I know.
That's saying a lot that I'm not bothering, right?
I don't like watching shitty Marvel movies.
It makes me sad.
Well, that's all Sony's been putting out with their Spider-Man extended universe.
Yeah, I know.
It's rough.
It's like they're, it's almost like they're doing it out of spite.
It seems that way, doesn't it?
Yeah, there's an absurd part of them that's just sort of trolling the diehard fans, taking these tertiary characters like Corbius and Madam Webb and really not doing them.
any semblance of justice.
I know. I was really excited about the Morvious one, too.
And then it was garbage.
All right.
Abigail.
So I can kind of forgive them giving the, I don't know if it's really a twist,
but it is a main plot line.
It's kind of fun to go into it knowing that she's a vampire and like the whole.
first of the half of the movie, you're like, oh, they're fucking up.
So that was a little bit of fun.
But yeah, it would have been probably a better movie going into it blind, although I don't know if as many people would have gone to see it had they not given the fun part away in the trailer.
Yeah, it would have been hard to make that trailer, right?
Yeah.
But yeah
I had a pretty great time
I loved everybody in the cast
And yeah
The Angus Cloud guy
I was watching that
That other movie you were talking about
Brian that he was in
You're lucky day
Yeah I was watching that
And my wife came by and she was like
Oh that's the guy from Euphoria
That killed himself
This must be his last movie
And then I was watching him in this
And I'm like are we talking about the same person here
Because that's the same guy
but he was pretty great actor
yeah sucks
but yeah everybody else did a pretty great job
and I had a great
man I can't know how much I can talk about
without spoiling it but
obviously there's going to be some kills in this movie
the kills were amazing I loved them
like a lot
yeah fair enough
It was blood everywhere.
All right.
Scores, Matthew, what do you think?
This is a very enthusiastic.
I'm going to give this eight onions out of ten.
And if you've seen the movies.
That fucking big guy.
I don't know his name.
Kevin Duran.
Not the guy who plays for the sons.
That's Kevin Duran.
I love that.
and everything that he's in.
That guy's fucking huge, too.
Like, just putting him next to everybody else in this movie.
And it's weird because he plays the heavy and almost everything he's in, given his size.
But this is the first time where he's somewhat likable.
Because normally he's just, you know, either the silent muscle or like a scumbag.
But he's really funny in this one.
What's with his accent, though, right?
What was that in the Rocky?
Like, oh, Adrian.
Do you have marbles in his mouth?
Well, I said he was a French-Canadian, and there's very, like, small affectations if you listen to his cadence.
All right.
I'll buy that, Matthew.
I'll buy that.
All right.
Scores.
Oh, you said eight.
Brian, what do you think?
Yeah, I'm right there with him.
This is an easy aid.
A lot of fun.
Love the cast.
The trailer, spoiling.
didn't really bother me.
I just went in with it to have some fun.
And yeah,
a great vampire movie.
Wow. So far, so good.
We're all at eight.
You two?
Yeah, eight.
Eight on ten.
Eight on ten.
I think that sounds like a pretty fair score.
This was a lot of us, man.
We hit it.
Yeah.
And see, I really enjoyed Megan last year when I watched it.
But it's because I didn't see any of the time.
trailers or anything.
And, but this one, this one is like Megan to me, but it's actually a better movie.
And, well, we're going to do it in spoilers.
Let's go to spoilers.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
The, uh, the exploding blood bag.
Hills were fantastic.
I loved it every time it happened.
Glad it wasn't just for
sunlight.
Yeah. And I'm glad it happened more than
once.
Oh, yeah. Well, the best thing is there's
with the first one, there's like a three second
delay after they get, after he gets stabbed.
So you just
you think they're going to do like the blade thing
with it with a skeleton
burns up where he turns to ash.
Nope. He explodes like a grenade
went off at his chest.
It's comedic timing.
And you brought it up, the onions.
I got a good chuckle out of that because
Dan Stevens was just like, are you fucking kidding me?
Black garlic, there's a fucking onions.
And I don't cook.
And I really enjoyed Melissa Barrera in this.
I'm glad she, you know, with her old, you know,
Controvert, well, I'm doing air quotes
Controversy because it wasn't really controversial to me.
But her getting kicked off a scream
and able to be in this movie,
I'm glad she's still able to get work
because I thought I thought she was great in this.
Wow, I thought we had a lot more talking about.
I know. What are the spoilers are there?
So is she our new Samara weaving or what, guys?
No, she looks like,
her character reminded me of what's her name from Don't Breathe?
Oh, Jane Levy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's that same, like, you know, she's the thief for the conscience.
You know, she's like the only one who seems of decent moral, because much like Don't Breathe, she has a kid.
Okay, makes sense. I can see that.
And that was the one thing.
So I mentioned in the preamble what I thought you could have sold the movie on.
They drop that.
There's that subplot where they tease you.
about the hitman?
Yes, yes.
If one person's like the hit person who's infiltrated to wipe them all out,
you could have sold it on that sort of like predator where they're being hunted.
Yeah, I could see that.
That would have been a good way to keep it out.
Yeah, it's like the don't breathe, like a mix of don't breathe and some of those other
or like wait until dark with a tree have burn, something like that.
But I thought when the vampire things,
thing actually happened because this thing I had it was the biggest mind fuck for me when it actually
happened that I love with the teeth it's not just rows of jagged teeth there's a lot of neat
little references like visually between her design and there's when he's covered in blood he's got
the glasses on. He looks just like Bill Paxton from near dark. And I don't think that was coincidence.
Probably not. Yeah. And they had the, like when the one was bitten, you got the kind of glossy
skin there, which was in the maybe we just saw let the right one in. The same thing happened, right?
When they were kind of, and I like the way they were puppeteers rather than, you know, just
making another vampire or like them being, you know, like somebody like the old man that goes out and
kills people for him. I enjoyed that puppet aspect. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, I love that
too, Lance. And I love that Dan Stevens tried to do that later with Marissa Barrera's character.
Yeah. Sure. Yeah, Abigail had to let him know you have to learn these tricks over years over time.
That was a great. You just don't do it. She said, some of this shit, you've got to get really
fucking old to learn or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And there's the whole, I think that girl, by the way,
The only thing I've other thing I've seen her in is the Matilda musical that the dead on Netflix.
Oh, God.
Okay.
I think she's going to be a big star.
Because much like Dan Steven, who I think is fantastic in, I think she's got a lot of range.
And I buy her, you know, looks young but has lived for seemingly centuries.
I thought that was handled really well.
The movie really reminding me of, I think it's a better version of from dust till dawn.
where it's the same type of conceit where the characters don't realize they're in a vampire movie until the audience does.
But I like how, unlike from Dust Till Dawn, there's no Quentin Tarantino being such an abysmal actor to suck.
To be his own vampire suck the energy out of the movie.
Like everyone in this, like Catherine, I thought Catherine Newton was great.
I'm glad she's embracing her, you know, borderline scream queen horror persona that she's had.
So, yeah, not a lot for me to complain about, really.
Okay, so I've got a plot point I want to talk to you guys about.
Was I the only one that kind of thought until Matthew Good actually finally showed up, that there was no father?
I don't know. I did get the impression that it was, they were, vampires were a little more scarce.
Like, there's just a few of them, you know.
I don't know. I didn't get, I didn't get there scarce.
because she kept referring to the organization.
Right.
Oh, yeah, I guess so.
Well, see, I took that to mean, like,
their organization where there's one vampire in charge
because nobody can fucking do anything about it.
Yeah.
Leave it out for sequels, maybe.
Well, until they had their little worker bees
that were vampires, too, so.
Yeah.
Gene Carla Esposito.
Yeah.
He's just basically a puppet, too.
Yep.
He's kind of great.
and everything, is he not?
Yeah, over-exposed, but yeah.
No, I honestly thought...
I don't hate it, I like him.
Well, until you got that one scene,
and who better to play the vampire than Matthew Good, right?
But I honestly thought that she was the mastermind of everything
and that we were going to find out.
Because I noticed when they showed the painting on the wall
with her and, you know, quote-unquote father,
his face was always covered.
Like, he had a hat on and you couldn't see.
And I thought,
this is where they're going with it.
But nope, they twisted it yet
again at the very end. So
I liked all the twists, right? Like the puppet
and then what you think
is going to happen doesn't happen and then certain
people turn into vampires and then
fucking Dan Stevens handing it up, right?
I haven't seen it.
That seems to be his thing lately, right?
Well, that's like blade level
handing it up. Am I right, Matthew?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's Stephen
dorffing it.
In a good way, because, you know, that's where the only other beat Steven Dorf has actually been good in.
Ouch.
I can't remember the last time I was seeing that, dude.
Been a while.
I was going to bring up, I love the way she maintained her ballerina character throughout the movie.
Even like when she's chasing people down, she's doing little ballet leaps over obstacles and spins.
Slash Ninja.
Yeah.
Yeah, one thing that really got me about this movie that I,
that brought it up from like, you know, a seven to an eight is the set design was gorgeous.
And it kind of looked like the house, obviously, I was talking to Pat earlier.
And he was like, that kind of looked like the same exact house from Ready or not,
just with different decorations in it.
And so like you've got all the paintings on the wall.
You've got all the old stuff that she's collected over the years.
and I guess the fathers, you know, collected over the years.
And then you've got just a gorgeous horror movie score.
Like, for a minute, I honestly thought I was watching.
And it was the one scene where Barrera was going through the house.
And like you had that strong, powerful score behind her.
And she's looking at all these weird oddities and stuff like that.
And I'm like, this is like an old universal monster movie, like the old black and white ones.
So I really appreciate the way that they showed so much homage to other stuff.
you know well with all the the you know mansion architecture trap doors the the elevator i thought
this was a resonable movie like this might as well have been the spencer the spencer mansion with all the
the traps and stuff but i like the the set design this is really good and i like that for a house that
is seemingly huge they do a good job of of establishing a layout within the context of the movie's
you don't feel like you're getting lost.
Like you have a good idea of what the floor plan of this place looks like.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, and then like when they're all in the bar and they're taking advantage of the,
you know, the alcohol bottles and stuff like that.
It was pretty cool, man.
Just great set design, great score and beautifully filmed movie.
They did a good job on this.
I'm like you guys, I'm looking forward to seeing everything else that they do after this.
Well, speaking of development of this,
Did you know this was supposed to be part of the dark universe at one point?
Yeah.
No.
I think that's why it went so...
It was like an untitled for a while.
Universal Monster movie.
It was going to be called Dracula's daughter.
That was going to be, you know, playing off the original Universal one from like 1936.
That makes sense.
That's what it felt like.
Makes perfect sense, yeah.
Makes perfect sense.
But, you know, much like some of the vampires in this movie, that Dark Universe exploded.
with blood after one flop.
So they kind of reworked it.
You know, there's something more, if you look at the posters and that stuff,
it looks more like the bad seed or those, you know,
children from hell movies that we've gotten a ton of.
Not necessarily a vampire movie, which this is.
Sure.
Yeah, it's, the only complaint I have is I do wish Matthew
that I hadn't known she was going to be a vampire,
because that would have added to, wait, what's going on inside the house?
Like, because I don't think they really, did they show for sure that it was her when the first
guy died or am I misremembering the, no.
No.
Okay, they thought they thought, she thought, she didn't know who was.
Yeah, they thought who her people were there to rescue her and were in the house.
All right.
All right.
Well, they kind of pulled a boner by giving her way too much away in the,
in the trailer, but I'll forgive them.
It was a great movie.
Funest movie of the year so far.
So you guys ready to take it out for the night?
Yeah.
All right, Matthew, thanks for joining this, dude.
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I'm going to see what I can do.
I know it's a subject.
Well, we're going to talk some spiders with the brand new
infested, or as we knew it when we saw the trailer
Vermeens, I guess is pronounced right, as well as arachnophobia. So, Phillip, until the
horror returns again, good night. Oh, that one sound like that.
