The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #413: Let The Right One In (2008) & Abigail (2024)

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

This week we cover little vampires with 2 modern takes on the genre. Matthew Goudreau from Percolated Media joins us to talk about the brand-new Abigail, and we also cover Let the Right One In. Cool o...f the Week includes Resident Evil, Late Night with the Devil, Fallout, and The Gentlemen. Trailers are The Exorcism and Trap. The podcast spotlight shines on Cast of the Living Dead. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Jerry Herring, Patrick Moore, Marcey Papandrea, Jenn Nangle, Donald Muzio, Tim Spencer-Lane, Richard J DeCesare, and Alan Lawless. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to The Horror Returns.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Lance. With me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian. How's it going, guys? Pretty good, pretty good. Allergies, man. Yeah. Actually, I am getting over some shit. I may sound weird today.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I feel like I'm here in the taking my own life in my hands in the Hore Return Studios with fucking typhoid Marty and typhoid Michael or something over here. That sounds like a couple of fucking sick bastards, man. What's going on in the way? What is it, Brian? Can I be Marty? Typhoid Marty. I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I love it. What's, you guys have, that's springtime, right? Springtime in Alaska, right? Yeah, it's pretty much, most of the majority of the snow's gone, depending on what part of town you're at. So, of course, allergies got to kick in immediately. No, no respite from the allergies, huh? No.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And I used to, I had never had allergies when I was younger. when I got older and just started. Dude, me too. That's a weird thing, huh? I wonder how that works. Old age sucks. Oh, guys. The government is fucking with you, man.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Oh, no. Let's not go there. It's the fluoride in the drinking water and shit. Oh, man. Well, hey, we don't have any new patrons, unfortunately, from our promotion. But I want to give a shout out to our main man, Al Ramzer. he is uh he's upped his his patronage what um yeah he wants to get another t-shirt and a shitload of coosies and uh and oh that wasn't a pretty good deal actually yeah yeah yeah let's keep it going
Starting point is 00:03:00 let's keep it going what do you guys think yeah for at least another week or two yeah at this rate another year or two right come on but also i want to i want to say thank you to all the followers on our main Facebook page because I believe sometime in February we were around 4,000 and you jumped all the way up to we're about to hit 18,000
Starting point is 00:03:28 what how does that happen? I don't know Brian you did something dude you sold your soul to the devil or something what's the secret? Well we'll talk about a movie about the devil in a minute but no I didn't
Starting point is 00:03:43 I got to keep my soul. Okay. All right. Zuckerberg's hoarding souls because he doesn't want to have one of his own. I would actually believe that. Real quick, the goal I want us to set is by, I think we can do it. By June, I would like us to hit 25,000 followers. One million followers.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Hey, at the rate we're going, that's not unreachable at all, Brian. Yeah, I don't know what happened Because we were at barely 4,000 for The life of this show And then the past few months It just skyrocketed And if you think the show sucks Come on and make it better
Starting point is 00:04:32 There you go Let's go, man That's our challenge Yeah, you can Happy to hang out with anybody You can pitch about the show all you want As long as you promise to come on as a guest How about that?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, there you go. Don't hide behind your keyboard or your phone. Ooh, we don't like that. Brian, you want to start out with Cool of the Week? Yes, I actually finished a series. And was it Fall Out or something else? Yes, Fallout. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I loved it. It was awesome, wasn't it? Yeah, I was into, I don't think there was a letdown with any episode. the characters were great and the way the season ended I'm so happy they renewed it for a second season I think second and her it sees nice nice all right
Starting point is 00:05:25 I can't get my wife into it dude really like yeah I like I like forced her to watch the first episode or two and then she went right back to watching the Walking Dead for the 15th time Jesus Christ if that first episode didn't get her then I don't say it no kidding man
Starting point is 00:05:43 well look that's my that's my cool awesome in this show but fucking hey dude the ghoul and okay so look I've seen just the first episode okay and I did that on purpose I was going to go to the second one I'm like you know what there was so much shit in that
Starting point is 00:05:58 I want to savor it I'm a bender but I want to savor this and make it last for a while so you know Jesus Christ just the first episode all right you got all that shit happening underground and then all of a sudden you go to Like, these groups that are kind of like nights,
Starting point is 00:06:15 but they're using technology that's been forgotten or something. And then you go to this wild west town and they dig this dude out of the ground. What the fuck is going on? That opening got me. Yeah. And I, for the life of me, thought it was set in like the 50s. It seemed that way, didn't it? Like, 20078 or something.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, it's very weird Alternate reality stuff. Yeah. I'm liking it. You guys stuck around to watch that whole end credit song, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That's hilarious, man. I don't know. Oh, is it Richard cheese, Brian? Sounds like him. Oh, is it? Okay, that's awesome. I think so. You got to check it out.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I like him. And then I also checked out because we were watching Abigail for the show. Angus Cloud, who passed away. He had another movie come out that he filmed. I think this and Abigail was one of the final two things he filmed, and it was your lucky day. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah. Not bad. Yeah, one bad. Kind of questions, if you had the opportunity to get millions of dollars from a lottery ticket. what would you do for the ticket? How far would you go? So I thought it was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Other than Angus, I didn't really recognize anybody from the cast. So it was kind of an unknown cast, which was, I think, a good thing. Yeah. So pretty good story. Well, there was a couple of the old guys that were recognizable, right? Are you talking about the people that were coming after the ticket? Yeah. Yeah, there was a couple guys.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I kind of recognized, but they were more so. Oh, you're that guy from that movie. Yeah. So I recommend that one. And then I also got a chance to check out, which is now on Shudder, Late Night with the Devil. Oh, is it on Shudder now? Damn it, I really want to watch that one.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Fantastic movie. It just, I really felt like I was watching something from the 70s, just the way it was from home. They did a great job. They even cropped off the size. They had, you know, the black bars on the size because, you know, everything wasn't full-screen HD 4K like it is now. Right, right. And the, I still can't say, David Dalsmaltzmultz.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Sure. We'll take it. We'll take it. There you go. He was great. I really bought him as a late-night show host. And the little possessed girl, she was great, too, because the moment she appeared on screen, just the way she was looking at the camera.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I was like, whoa. I'm starting to really like that dude as an actor. Yeah, he's under, I believe this is his first actual, like, he's the lead. Starring role? Yeah. Yeah, but he's kind of great in everything that he's in.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. Yeah, he usually plays kind of like a creepy guy, but in this one, like, he played this part perfectly, right? Like, he's Johnny Carson, basically. They even brought up the Rove. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 they did didn't they yeah they were they're pulling from like some real well hit me gross yeah we don't need yeah release real theories conspiracy theory type stuff for the movie so yeah recommended uh lance since you're doing fallout for your cool of the week i'll do late night with the devil for mind nice all right well brian what did you think about the skeptic in that he he stole the show at times he was great he was just i love the way they were showing how he he was just taking apart every little thing.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He was like, oh, you did this, and you used hypnotism to fool the crowd. And there's a logical explanation for everything. And then he kind of gets his in the end. That's the problem with the skeptic mindset. It's like eventually the skepticism, you have to reach further to find that than you do the actual truth. Like the UFO thing. Absolutely. Yes. Are the aliens? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But there's definitely something there. Like, that's a real thing. Yeah. People try to say that it's like woo-woo or whatever, right? When there's hard evidence, like film of planes chasing something and things like that. Yeah. And like legitimate military pilots that are like, yeah, there's these things out there. We don't know what the fuck they are. Well, yeah, the truth is always somewhere in the middle, right?
Starting point is 00:11:11 yeah there's always three sides of the truth uh this person's the other persons and the actual truth that's yeah man fuck yeah but i thought everybody was great in it even the the little sleazy like studio exec guy that was just like we just got to get we just come on we just keep doing keep going with it you know it's good for the ratings good for the right he he was chain smoking through the whole movie brian yeah well the 70s. True. True. Yeah. Everybody chain smoked, right? Like three-year-old toddlers were walking around chain-smoking. Yeah. So if anybody hasn't seen it, I 100% recommended. It came on Shutter, I think, last Friday, so check it out. Well, there you go, Philip. Late Night with the Devil.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah, I know what I'm doing after this. Um, all right. Well, I, uh, as always, I've got all kinds of movies bouncing around in my head that I can't remember what I watched. But I did, since we were doing Let the Right One and I watched Let Me In right after I watched that one. And it's pretty much a shot for shot remake. I'll probably get into that a little more in the review. But still enjoy it. Great movie.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I checked out The Gentleman on Netflix. The series. Yeah, it's a series. with uh what's his name the British guy Guy Ritchie the British guy I thought so
Starting point is 00:12:46 that's gonna give you shit 80% of Hollywood right now I know but you know Guy Ritchie dude he's quintessential and it it feels especially
Starting point is 00:12:56 the first few episodes feel very very guy Ritchie you know you ever seen the movie gotta see it uh
Starting point is 00:13:05 is that the one with Matthew McConahey yes Charlie Hanna yes okay yeah okay Is that what that's based off? Yeah, it's just, I think, a continuation.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, no, I remember the movie vaguely, but I remember it being very Guy Ritchie, too, man. He's got a certain style. He's like a British Quentin Tarantino. He's very dialogue-heavy and, you know, British gangsters and stuff. And he does it well. I like it.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Cool. A lot like Snatch. I will definitely check it out. He's one of my favorite movies of all time. They've got the whole gypsy boxers. Oh, I'm sorry, Travelers. Yes. Gypsy boxers, I got you.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And all that stuff in it, man. It's pretty entertaining. And the lead character is that he was four in that, God damn it, that movie series, the Divergent stuff. Okay, I got you. Yeah, he played like the lead in that one. I didn't know he was actually British. Well, like I said.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That makes sense. 80, probably 90% of Hollywood majority of movies you're watching, you end up finding out that person's British or Austrian. He carries it well. There's a few people that you've seen in there. The groundskeeper is from a lot of other Guy Ritchie movies.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Okay. Yeah. It's, it was a, it was, a fun time. I liked it. And G. and Carlo Esposito is in there, right? Let me guess. Oh, yeah. He's in everything right now. He's like to Sam Jackson. That guy does not seem to go to anything.
Starting point is 00:14:54 This could literally be his character from Breaking Bad, just like later. That's what I figured. Still having to start the series on AMC, where he's the car driver, the transport, type driver was it parish oh yeah i don't know about that parish yeah the guy's everywhere yeah yeah he's in ever like he was in the movie we watched today
Starting point is 00:15:21 of course he was every time i turn tv on he's on it so is that is it gonna be the gentleman philip yeah that's my cool of the week okay the gentleman brian can you hit us with some news man let me see if i can pull some up because It seemed like it was another slow week. Oh, no. Seems like they hit all the news all in one week, and then the rest of the month is just nothing. A little bit here, a little bit there, huh?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Well, summertime's coming up, though, so we should get some news soon, I would imagine. Yeah, I'm expecting when San Diego Comic-Con hits. Yeah, and that's always the time. That is true. Yep. Uh, can't think.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Zach Krieger's follow-up to Barbarian is called Weapons. We talked about that with Pedro Pascal. I believe he's, no, that's the movie he had to drop out because he's pre- Yes, somebody dropped out. I remember that. Yeah. Well, Julia Garner from Ozark has joined the cast. She's a pretty damn good actress.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah. Yeah. A lot, girl. Yeah, the little tiny print. Yeah, I like her. She's pretty good. Let's see. The Strangers Chapter 1 gets the R rating, which is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I was hoping for it, not a PG-13 rating. That would have been terrible. I like, by the way, Brian, I love your May and June schedule, dude. You're hitting this with new movies almost every week. Yes. It's that season. Tis the season. Gotcha. I think we talked about this one before when we reviewed the trailer.
Starting point is 00:17:18 M. Knight-Sharmalun's daughter, Ishaun Knight-Sharmalun's directorial debut of The Watchers, gets moved up to June 7th from June 14th. Okay. That one looks interesting. Yeah, I saw that trailer. I'm curious. Is it going to be like that Twilight Zone episode where they're basically in an alien zoo? That's my guess. They're being watched by aliens, like in their zoo on the spacecraft or something like that?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Well, I know it takes place in Ireland in the forest. Oh, then it's going to be the little people. I am pairing it with unwelcome since we've seen it, but we did not review it. All right. You hear that, Tim? We're going to talk about unwelcome, one of your favorite fucking movies from last year. We got an official cast update for 28 years. years later, it is Ray Fines, Jody Comer, and Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Okay. So it looks like no Charlie Hunnam or... No Jacks, huh? You think he would have used his actual British accent since he's in a British movie? You would hope so? Well, he's been in British movies before, but we had an American accent, right? Yeah, it's so weird. It's a weird guy.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's not an American accent. Like, the American, the American dialect is so diverse that you can kind of do whatever and you're just like, sure, we'll roll with it. That makes sense. But then when you realize he's British,
Starting point is 00:19:03 you're like, oh, okay, I get it. If you go back and watch like Sons of Anarchy, the scenes where he like gets like really emotional and like if he's like angry or sad and he's like yelling, you hear it, you hear the British come out. The British comes out, huh?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, you hear, you hear the whatever accent he's doing for Jacks. You hear it break when he gets emotional. Well, I guess technically that's what a lot of American accents are, is just like British and, you know, that Great Britain area, like, transgressing over here and turning into different things. Yeah. Like the whole southern accent is actually like Scottish, I think. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:19:54 My wife was watching a series that she found. I don't know if it's on Netflix or something like that, but it was called Young Americans, like an older series. You got heard of it? Yeah. And he showed up in that. He had his British accent.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I think he was like a British student at an American school. or something like that. And she was watching them like, that's Jack's. But he had his British accent for that. Well, speaking of Guy Ritchie, they did that stupid King Arthur movie, which was dumb. That was terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But it was actually kind of fun. You didn't like Jack's shadow boxing? Yeah. I mean, I kind of like what they did with it. I had fun with that movie. It was a stupid concept. And it probably should have never been made, but I had done with it.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Well, whatever works for you, man. I thought it was fucking horrible. I like Guy Ritchie movies, man. I think that's it. I'm not really seeing anything. We'll have a bigger news week next week, right? Yeah, hopefully. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:09 All right, Philip, Brian. If I know Brian at all, I know that he's about to bring us the big, the small, And sometimes the very, very weird. Hey. Brian, what's our first new trailer tonight, man? The Exorcism starring Russell Crow.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's that Russell Crow playing Russell Crow? As I picked it up and looked at it and I was like, didn't we already watch this movie? You know what it reminds me of? What's that? It's like if they made a movie out of an episode of that Shutter series Curse film. Yeah. Yeah, totally, man.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Totally. Which I'm kind of digging the premise that he's this actor in a movie and strange shit is happening and people are trying to figure out what's going on. And it just really gave me curse film vibes. And from what I understand, this film is going to be R-rated. Yeah, no, I love the concept. When I said, didn't we already watch this? It was because he was just in that exorcism movie. Father M. Orth or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah, this could be like a continuation of that movie. I thought it was. They just said cut and then... I like what they did with the concept, though. That's cool. It's like, oh, okay, now it's interesting. I'll totally watch this. Maybe the director went full Owey Bowl
Starting point is 00:22:35 and, like, filmed three different movies using the same characters and the same sets and everything, and this is like the second in the trilogy. Trying to see who is. the director. This is like the blabarella of the three, right? Well, because I didn't, I never actually, I never really gave it a legitimate shot,
Starting point is 00:22:54 that last one with Russell Crow in it. But it's because, exorcist. Yeah. Well, I didn't hate it. It's just varied by the numbers. I found a shit copy when it first came out and my daughter wanted to watch it.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And so we turned it on. And after watching what we could from that, you know, movie, you know, video camera and a movie theater version of it. It was, I was like, I kind of don't want to watch this movie anymore. Oh, boy. On Netflix on stuff. Yeah. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:28 That's what I'm saying. It's on Netflix and I haven't even checked it out. I'm like, man. It made decent movie. I saw another. I hear them trying to make a trilogy out of it. Like still? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It made money out of theater. Uh-huh. I didn't think it was bad. It's just, like I said, it's very by the numbers, exorcism. Yeah. Religious horror. Yeah, you've got to do something cool with horror at this point. Yeah, like what Immaculate did.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Or like what late night with the devil did for that matter. Yeah. That's something different and creative. That should be what horror is, creative, right? Let me see the cast. Sam Worthington, Samantha Mathis, Adam Goldberg, Chloe Bailey, David Hyde Pierce, Adrian Pestar.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He looks like that guy from that show heroes, the politician guy that could fly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the brother to find out loud. The guy that was in that show that Amman used to give the greatest reviews of. This is us or whatever Oh Milo, bad Milo
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, it was This is us Right, right Ammon used to walk us Through every episode He took an hour and 20 minutes To describe it One hour episode
Starting point is 00:25:05 But it was like The greatest Review of a show That I was What was I was I know I've seen an episode here
Starting point is 00:25:15 There I understand The official is that I'm not excited about watching it though Phil if you would have heard his reviews you just like even if you were watching the show you would not watch the show just to listen to his description of each episode
Starting point is 00:25:30 there you go I'll try the episode I've done that before I'll try to Brian I don't even have time to to put up the re- uploads that I've had sitting on my desktop for the last three months so I probably won't have time but if I do Philip I'll find
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'll find you one of the episodes to listen to and send it to you. All right. You don't need to watch the show. You don't need to just listen to it's with you. All right. There you go. Better than the show, that's for damn sure. The Exorcism comes to theaters June 7th.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Let's do it. I like this concept. Let's do it. Yeah. And on to our final trailer, which is a movie I felt like we just talked about. And then they dropped the trailer. You covered it in news.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Maybe two weeks ago, I think. Oh, yeah. Which is M. Night Shyamalan's Trap, starring Josh Hartman. It sounds fucking horrible. You didn't like the trailer? Nah, not really. Why? You've been like the biggest M-9.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I know. That's what, that's what worries me. So what, well, you guys talk about it. I want to hear what you. thing. I kind of dig that they already told us that he's the killer. Yeah. And he knows that they're sending it. And people are getting so upset that, oh, they gave us the twist already. No, that's the hook to get you in. Yeah, for sure, that's not the twist. You know that. It's going to be something insane at the end. And I am, I think Josh Hartman is an underrated actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 What? Yeah, totally. You think he's a good actor or a bad actor? Just, I'm listening. Let me be quiet. No, no. I'm going on mute now. Come here to hear your opinion, Lance.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You can't. No, dude, Josh Hartnett, what's one really great thing he's done? I mean, this guy's not going to win an Oscar anytime soon. He was good in Oppenheimer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. He was serviceable. Even Dave DeHaan wasn't very.
Starting point is 00:27:46 wasn't very good at Opin Hocer. I don't even remember him in Offenhawk. Date DeHan is Dane Dahan in every movie. Heroin Junkie, right? He's his own character. He's just playing himself. Well, I'm digging the concept. I'm anticipating the twist.
Starting point is 00:28:07 All right. And I just like to see that I just anticipating, I can see that there's showing. knowing us how he's like the typical dad telling the dad jokes and doing the fist bumps and yeah he's a good dad taking his daughter to her first concert and stuff like that i'm anticipating the other side that that we're told that he is this the the butcher this serial killer sure and i'm just looking forward to the to the twist because yeah because that's i guarantee you that shit's revealed in the first 20 minutes of the movie.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah. And the whole movie is going to be about him trying to avoid the police. And I kind of want to see how he manages... Yeah, and I also want to find out how did they know
Starting point is 00:29:03 the killer is going to be at this concert? Just a little, lots of little things I just want to know that I hope the movie gives us throughout the story. So, I mean... I got you, man. Yeah, fair. enough. On the surface, it looks like your run-of-the-mill crime mystery thriller where he's trying to evade
Starting point is 00:29:28 the police and they're slowly going to release bits of what actually happened in the story until you get to the end. And then maybe there's going to be a twist like, oh, the good guy isn't really who you think it is, kind of a thing. But knowing M. Knight-Shaw Malon, this could end up being some whole, like he's playing a fucking video game or something. I heard it I heard a cool theory that he's not the butcher.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That the butcher is another killer that he just happens to be at the same concert with. Oh, and maybe he's kind of worried about him getting caught because they're looking for a different person. Or maybe he's
Starting point is 00:30:11 trying to find out too. I don't know. Well, and we're just trying to figure out the plot of the movie. Yeah, what if the butcher is the guy on his phone that he's got chained up? Yeah, like he could be the good guy in this situation, which I'm sure he probably is, or if you think that he's the bad guy, I'm telling you, it's going to be something fucking unhinged at the end of it. It's going to be some alternate reality fucking VR thing. Yeah, and never tell the T-E-R.
Starting point is 00:30:43 shirt guy what's going on because that guy's not keeping it a hush on it yeah that's true his job is to talk to people so Lance
Starting point is 00:30:59 what did you not like about this you know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm in a reserved judgment until we see the movie because I know we're going to right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:12 well you know it's either going to be like spectacularly good or really bad. You know what? It doesn't look really bad. It's probably, it's probably going to be good. I'll, I'll give you that, guys.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'll give you that. It's probably going to be a good movie, but I don't know. Like I said, when you talked about it in news, Brian, I said it's almost like the exact same setup for the end of the Mr. Mercedes book, the Stephen King book. So maybe I'm just like thinking, oh shit you know they're they're redoing something that they've already done in a book but it's a different movie different stories so fuck it all right i'm see i'll give it a shot that's what i'm saying being m night that's that's directing that you know it's not going to be what you think it is
Starting point is 00:32:00 like it's he's not copying somebody else that's not his style he's a creative dude true true and i'm looking at the cast list the only one i'm seeing here that i recognize his other daughter is playing the singer. What's his other daughter's name? I'm curious. His other daughter, okay. That's the one I'm confused with this one. I'm going to probably mispronounce. Salika, Shamalan. Okay. She doesn't have the knight.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But what was the other one? Ishina? Yeah, Ishanna or something like that? Ishanna, Ishanna Knight Shamelon? Is that her name? Yeah. Okay. She's the film director. This one that's in this movie playing the singer is actually. actually a singer in real life. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I think I read somewhere the music and this is going to actually be her music. Okay. That's cool. Hey, man, those Indian families pushing their kids. This is what happens. So we need to be something to do it, right? It's this why we're getting behind. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:33:07 That's another conversation. So trap comes out August 9th in theaters. Well, hopefully you'll like it, Lance, because I'm kind of shocked. I'm kind of shocked because a lot of people hate it all. You were like kind of, yeah. Yeah, I do. M. Knights rarely let me down.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I mean, he has a few times, but for the most part, I'm sure it's going to be good. Like I said, I just keep it. I got to get it out of my mind that they're trying to rip off Mr. Mercedes and just go with it, you know. And you like all the movies that most people don't. that stupid lady of the lake one I did I liked it so put that on the back of a Lord Returns T-shirt I keep wanting to go back and watch it
Starting point is 00:33:59 just to see what you liked about it but I just end up telling myself oh there's other things to watch I just remember the guy with the one big arm you better be careful Brian or you might all of a sudden have this strange patron sign up name like lucky Lombardini or something
Starting point is 00:34:16 that makes us watch it. We're going to watch all the shitty Mnight movies. The Village, that's got to be on there, right? That's one of my favorites of his. That's what I'm saying. You like all the ones that everybody hates. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:31 One of your favorites. Dude, yes. I've loved it. All right, that's the trailer part. On to listener feedback. I apologize. that you have to suffer through my voice right now because I'm on the sixth side, but
Starting point is 00:34:50 we'll get there. Before you do, though, there's one YouTube channel that we want to shout out. Brian, you sent me the link. You want to do the honors for Sarah before? That's for next week, Lance.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Oh, shit. Okay. Tune in next week for that. Your biggest trip confused you. Okay. Oh, boy. did it ever. We're going to call that a teaser. So this week... Shout out of Sarah before, though.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yeah. And this week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on cast of the living dead. Horror junkies Curtis Barrett, Zach Davis, and Andrew Estep. Sit down to review and discuss various films in the horror genre. Cast of the Living Dead. I like it. Matt Wood says, boy, Lance Langford. What are he saying about Brits in our haircuts?
Starting point is 00:35:49 You Yanks created the mullet. Jerry Herring replied, The mullet was actually created by the Fisher people of Iceland, then became popular in the universities of Poland. Then American South took it and invented it as a sign of freedom. So yes, we did. The more you know. There it is.
Starting point is 00:36:12 History of the mullet. Things you never thought you'd want to know. Patrick Moore says, Have you seen Air of the Witch streaming now? Starring Victoria U. Bell, watching Shared's Free. Thank you for supporting indie filmmakers.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Air of the Witch. I believe I posted the trailer, but I haven't seen it yet. And excuse Lance getting eyes for his dream. I feel like I've strolled across that. I don't want to watch it now. I think it's relatively,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I think it's so old or any. I'm going to go look for it. Regarding To Be Tuesday's presentation of Saturn 3, Marcy Campandria says, this one you don't want to miss. We broke Kevin Nez a few times. Yes, he told me. What did they do, set him off?
Starting point is 00:37:18 He just was, he said they're a hilarious group. Oh, they are fun. Jen Nangle says, I got to talk to Travis Bruce recently on his podcast or Rome, chatting about being a hashtag women in horror and body count. Check out our killer discussion. It's been a while since we had Jed on the show. I know. We should totally do that. We had to review a couple of her movies.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. Or maybe we can send us a screen at a body count. Yeah. Just want to talk about it, promote it. And then I'm going to have to try and be nice. Regarding the Omen, Donald Muzio says the new prequel does a pretty good job of setting up the omen, although they do make one big change. Tim Spencer Lane says it's the nanny's expression and voice that does it for me every time. Absolute contentment.
Starting point is 00:38:25 What was the one big change? I don't remember. I remember, I think it's why Ness gave it a low score. Oh, okay. It didn't line up with the original omen. Oh, all right. that's okay I still like what they do
Starting point is 00:38:43 but fair enough right yeah um regarding got enough ice lance oh yeah
Starting point is 00:38:51 I didn't hit my mute did I uh regarding it um Richard C Richard J de Czar
Starting point is 00:39:04 sorry I'm almost done with the book it's over 1,100 pages It's incredible how much was left out of the movie. Oh, really? I've never read the book, but I know there's some questionable... Oh, with Beverly.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah, kid gangbang scenes. Yikes! Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. You could never put that in a movie. Yeah. I would prefer they didn't. Like, I almost want to read the book for that, but then I almost don't want to read the book for that. I have the audio book downloaded, but I just never listen to it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 When you're reading it, and I've read the book twice, it's not as cringy as you would think it would be. It's as tastefully done as you can be. At least they're all kids, right? They didn't have a grown-up in there leading them. Well, I guess that's true. Hey, dude, come on, dude. You're telling me when you're 14, you wouldn't have wanted to get laid.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Come on. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it becomes the coming of age. Yeah. Until you realize it's a, you know. See it on the screen. Your old dude writing it. See it on the screen is kind of different.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. Oh, true. So true. I don't know how tastefully you can make it look. Not very. Anyways, moving on. Regarding the Maxine poster, Alan Lawless says it looks like a good Harley Quinn
Starting point is 00:40:39 cosplay. It does a little bit when you look at the one with the smeared makeup and all that. And that's it for listener feedback this week. Our intro and logos come from Steve Carlton from the Geeks. Get well soon, Steve. Oh, yeah, what happened? I think he had some nasal surgery, I think he said. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Oh, he's been a little under the weather trying to recoup from it. but you feel a whole shitload better afterwards. Yeah. He sounds like he needs some children of the corn, Brian. Oh, we got one scheduled. And original skull artwork from Natsulani. So yeah, get better, Steve. And if you'd like to help us out,
Starting point is 00:41:27 please consider becoming a Patreon patron. Let's pick the movies for a future show at any amount. And $5 or more a month. You also get to pick a commentary for a future bonus show. And what, all right. So, Lance, I'll let you explain it. What are we doing right now? Yeah, it's real simple.
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Starting point is 00:42:08 coosies. At least six, maybe up to 12, depends on how many I can fit in the single rate envelope at the USPS. And maybe most importantly, of all, definitely cooler than our coosies
Starting point is 00:42:24 are T-shirts. We are going to pick out, you don't get to pick it because we want to surprise you. We're going to pick out based on what we think your personality is a horror icon pop figuring and have it mailed to you. So, you can't beat that. And
Starting point is 00:42:40 Lance, I don't think they made any for the Pet Cemetery remake. As long as they didn't make any for the Creeper, right? We don't want too many of those folks listen to the Shedgling. What was that director's name again, Brian? The director. Oh, Cheapest,
Starting point is 00:42:56 creepers? Yeah. There's Fonco Pops for the Creeper. Yeah, hopefully not for the director of the film, though. That would be weird. That's the literal creeper. What's his name again? That's even more of a horror story, yeah. I honestly don't know his name. I kind of...
Starting point is 00:43:11 Nes could tell us. I kind of blocked his name out of my head. Okay. Oh, I'm sure if we only knew half of them in the industry. True. Oh, Nickelodeon. Moving on. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So, on to featured attractions. Let's see. This week, we'll learn to be careful around vampire girls as we check out the brand-new Abigail, as well as the original Let the right one in Man, tongue tie today, I'm sorry That is a tongue twister, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Words are hard. I know, man. I'm pretty medicated right now. Oh, okay. All right, let the right one in from 2008. Had you picked all me and though. Be looblee with me. Oscar, an overlooked and bullied boy,
Starting point is 00:44:41 finds love and Revenge. God damn it. You see what I'm saying? Revenge through What is her name? Ellie and is that the way they pronounce it in the movie? Eli, I think. I think they pronounce it. I don't know. Eli, whatever. I mean, dude, what is this? Okay. Is this Danish, Lars? This is a Denmarkian movie? Swedish. Okay. All right. We'll go with Ellie. Anyway. We'll Americanize it.
Starting point is 00:45:09 A beautiful but peculiar girl. Director is Thomas Alfredson, also known for Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy. Writer is John Lindvist. Probably not how you say that. Probably Lindquist. Yeah, there you go. I love gold! I can barely speak in English right now.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I'm not going to try to do accents. Also known for handling the undead. That sounds dirty. That does sound dirty. That's what we were just talking about. Several tricks were used to create the right sound effects for some of the goreier scenes. Biting into sausages was used to replicate biting into skin and flesh. And drinking yogurt was used to sound like drinking blood.
Starting point is 00:46:06 That's gross. Oh, boy. That's just creative, though. I know. I don't know why it's it's grosser than drinking blood, but it seems Yeah, I know shit. Like we're talking about that like it's horrible, right? The sound of the children blinking was made by the skin of grapes rubbing together
Starting point is 00:46:26 And an almost blinking motion. Huh. I didn't notice that. The word vampire is only said in the film once. Yes, I did notice that. Yes. Okay. all right uh brian we'll start with you what did you think about let the right one in
Starting point is 00:46:47 this is a great vampire film i think it's like probably top ten vampire films ever made i just love so that's saying a lot yeah i just love the how different the story is because it's basically a romantic vampire movie because you get this troubled kid this bully kid yeah and then you get this who you think of it's as a little girl and you kind of find out she's not a little girl. She's a very old vampire and they just kind of have this, they kind of
Starting point is 00:47:19 find each other at the time when they kind of needed somebody. I just thought that was kind of a beautiful part to the story. And I love the they use some of the mythology to the movie. Obviously it's in the title
Starting point is 00:47:35 to let me in because I love that scene when he didn't invite her in and she forced their way in and what was happening to her? I don't think we ever really seen that as far as I can think of in a vampire movie because usually they just don't come in. Yeah. Well, Fright Night, right?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Fright Night where the mother let him in and he's like, Mom, why did you let him in? Well, no, I mean, what could happen to the vampire. Yeah, the rule's already there, but you've never seen the consequences. Yeah. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I loved Ellie. I loved her portrayal of the vampire because you can tell she doesn't want to kill people. Even the guy, the older gentleman that's kind of like her her, I guess, handler
Starting point is 00:48:25 or whatever gets her food. He doesn't want to do this shit either. And everybody's just kind of conflicted into what they're doing, but they got to do what they got to do. And a lot of the effects were really good too. have a question about the old guy so
Starting point is 00:48:43 I watched this and then watch let me in right after Richard Jenkins was great wasn't yeah yeah but so in and let me in she's really fucking mean to that guy well she wasn't really mean to him in this one was she to yeah to me and let me in
Starting point is 00:49:04 it was a little more obvious that you know the vampire was actually younger, I'm sorry, older than the quote-unquote father, right? Yeah. It wasn't as clear in this one, or did I miss that? I think it's, they explained it a little bit more that he met her in the remake. He met her when she was younger. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Kind of was given this position, this job to care for her. Well, right. And that's what I assumed in this one, too. I think it's the same thing. I just think she, this version of Ellie treated him less harshly. Yes, that's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I think in the remake, they just kind of grew apart over time. Yeah, they changed a couple of little things in the remake, but didn't change the, you know, the heart of the story. Sure. Or the main scenes and stuff like that, right?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah. But I just had, I had that question because I was like, man, I don't remember her being such an asshole of this guy. Right? Yeah, I think. Closing great experience. Even though he was conflicted in what he was doing and didn't want to do it, I think he still cared for her because you've got that scene where he's about to get caught by the police
Starting point is 00:50:24 and he just pour his acid on his face so he can. Yeah. So they want to know who he was. So, you know, they wouldn't be led to where she was. Those are really tense scenes in this one, too. Yeah. And Lance, you get real fire in this one. Not CGI fire.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah, the lady that knows what she finally realizes what she is and what she has to do and she doesn't want to do it. So she just has the nurse open the blinds. Well, that's okay, Brian, because we get CGI. We get CGI enhanced cats. Yeah. The special effects, maybe were not the greatest in this one. Not on the cats. Well, the CGI wasn't the greatest.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I think some of the practicals were. Brian, Brian, what did you think about the swimming pool scene? Was that not filmed beautifully? Yeah, don't be a fucking bully. Or you get your head locked off and you're missing an arm or whatever the fuck was going on. That was great. The movie kind of pisses you off because this kid is being bullied and you're kind of seeing what he could be turned into. because I think
Starting point is 00:51:35 because he has a fascination with death he's like got newspaper clippings of murders and stuff and I think it's all led from him being constantly bullied and picked on every day sure and then it pissed me off when he finally just whacked that kid in the head with that stick
Starting point is 00:51:51 but he still gets in trouble for it well of course he did but that was totally worth it but yeah fantastic over raw film. I love the direction. Some of the shots, like you said, I think you brought it up, lens were beautiful.
Starting point is 00:52:11 So, I thought the acting was pretty solid because, you know, kid actors could really derail the film sometimes, but I thought I thought for the most Yeah, very weird. Yeah. I think he was cast perfectly, because when you... He was
Starting point is 00:52:27 cast perfectly. When you see him, you're like, oh, this is the fucking vampire right here, this fucking kid. Yeah, I thought you said he was Casper and I was like, you're right. But then you find out he's like kind of meek and bullied and he just, I thought he just kind of played the role perfect. And then Ellie just kind of looked like a child, but I don't know. I think she played it off pretty.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah. You come off like a child sometimes. So yeah, I really enjoyed this one. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, it was a great story, you know, very original. right for a vampire story and i actually saw let me in first and i'm like wow this movie's incredible and i think let me in is directed by matt rebes right it's doing all the you know most most recently he's most famous for all the planet of the eight the new planet of the apes movies
Starting point is 00:53:22 uh he did uh the batman with robert patinson did the batman that's right that's right come on brain ten cloverfield lane or cloverfield now i think he did cloverfield original. That's what makes sense. They're both pretty good. They're both really good. Yeah, they're both really good. I'm not, you know, meaning to draw comparisons and everything. Now,
Starting point is 00:53:45 you guys are right. The kid was cast perfectly, like, super Oscar or whatever. He was like super, super, super weird. But I sorry, guys. I don't know. Sounded a little Irish there, Lance. Okay. I don't know if it was just one particular scene
Starting point is 00:54:00 where you could really see how dramatic the cuts on his hair wear, but I thought, oh my God, this is fucking simple jack. I don't know. Then when he did that weird thing with his mouth, like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, distorting his mouth. Yeah, a weird kid, man, weird kid.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I think he was supposed to be weird a little different. Obviously, sure, sure. I get it. And then, you know, the weird, you know, gender, uncertainty about the vampire. From what I understand, they go into a lot more detail in the novel. Because I think the novel explains that
Starting point is 00:54:44 it was originally a male who was castrated, right? To like serve under a vampire or something like that, they didn't totally go into that, but I kind of enjoyed that, no, I kind of enjoyed that gender uncertainty. It was kind of weird
Starting point is 00:55:00 and it sort of kept you off balance. I didn't take it that way at all. That's weird. that's weird because when you're talking about it sorry Phil now that you're talking about it the the whole i'm not a woman yeah maybe i don't know maybe in this mythology you don't have a gender when you're a vampire or something it's fascinating right the way it like when she said i'm not a girl i took it to mean that she's not a human exactly that's exactly what or she could You could be telling him I'm not a girl. I'm really fucking old woman.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Well, yeah. That's true, too. And did, was it just me that I was so stoned when I watched it last night? Or were there, like, scenes where it would, like, change to maybe a man in costume? Or was I trippin? I think you were trippin. Okay. I mean, maybe for the stunt doubles, but I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Maybe. Okay. Well, it wasn't like a full-blown. I'm going to get you suck of, right? No. She got mustache. And especially since we're watching it in a foreign language, and sometimes the translations may come across a little different.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And so when she said, I'm not a girl, that was, that was, like, I didn't take it to me and I'm not a, I'm not a, like, female. I'm just, I'm not a person. I'm dead. You know? And maybe it was something that was lost in translation a little bit. Although they did it and let me in also. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Great. I'm just kind of thinking back to all. I think just little parts of the story just kind of were clicking for me. Just the whole, like, she originally tried to refuse the friendship with him because she knows she can't have a normal friendship. Yeah. Just little parts like that, I think we're just adding to the story for me. Yeah, for me, that swimming pool scene just did it. Like, when I was like, you know, this movie's a little slow.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I love slow burn, but this is a little too slow burn. And then you got that fucking big. brother bully and he pushes his head under the water and he's holding his head and then you see all that carnage going on and I'm like you see the feet just go through the swimming pool. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I like how she left, if you notice she left the third kid there alive. Yeah, I have a witness right? It's just fucking crying his eyes out. Right. He'll never be the same. I enjoyed it. A great pick, Brian. Dude, you really
Starting point is 00:57:32 you are very good, Brian. at lining up the movies because this fit perfectly into the next one. Tell me more about myself, Lance. Yeah, man, I love this movie. I watched it originally. I watched it
Starting point is 00:57:50 first before Let Me Inn came out, I think, because I heard so much buzz around it, and it is, it's a beautiful movie, man. I think the original catches something even though it's a shot-for-shot remake,
Starting point is 00:58:05 the original catch is something that's a little more unique, like the atmosphere is different. There's something different about this one that makes it a better movie. And part of it may be because it isn't a foreign language, which is cool, you know? It makes it seem very like in the lore, you know? Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I totally get it, man. And I think, yeah, I think the kids did a great job. It's kind of a coming of age, kind of a love story. And it's like, you know, I bought it, you know. Like they worked out well together, even though the vampire is probably thousands of years old or whatever. But this also genuinely seemed like the first, like, real connection that that girl had had. Yeah, I like how they had their own little way. I like the way they had their own way of communicating with the little Mars code.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, that was cool. Oh, that was pretty cool, right? Where it was tapping on the wall there so they could talk. Yeah. So they never really give you a backstory for the old guy. I kind of took it. Go ahead. Is that maybe who the old guy was?
Starting point is 00:59:26 You know what I mean? Like a past boyfriend who just takes care of her forever? That's how I took it. Yeah. Okay. And so this is going to be the new old guy? Yeah, except I think he, I don't think he'll have a issue with protecting her and doing things for her. Just the way the kind of bond was growing, I think eventually, and his, of course, obsession with death and murder. I think it's a bond that's not going to fade away as he gets older.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I think he's just going to continue to help her. At least that's just how I see it playing out. Yeah, I think this is the new old guy. So maybe she's done this over and over again. And that's how she gets me old guys. I think you're right, dude. Totally do, man. Totally got that impression.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But yeah, man, it was a really interesting, unique vampire story. I liked it. I didn't know it was a book. Yeah, I think I guess it was a book and then, you know, you get two movies out of it and a TV series that, what, only lasted the season, Brian? Yeah, I watched like three or four episodes. It was pretty good. Okay. But then, you know, the networks, if it doesn't hit certain numbers, we'll just cancel it. And I think they even did that thing where they just pulled it off of those. I think it was Showtime. I think they just pulled it off so you can't even stream it.
Starting point is 01:01:04 What? So I can't even go watch it now? Yeah, which I think is stupid because I think things later kind of find an audience. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, imagine them just pulling Hannibal off because they can't. I was thinking the same exact thing, dude, Hannibal. That's the first thing I thought too. I mean, I'm not comparing it to Hannibal.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Hannibal is a fucking great show. Subscribe to our Patreon to listen to those reviews, but. I thought it was worth a watch at least, you know, for our first season. Not, you know, you should, I don't think it should have been pulled from the streaming platforms. I never saw the show. Check it out. Yeah. It gets more in-depth than the relationship.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I think in the show, it's the actual father-daughter. Hmm. All right. I'll give it some thought, but if they're going to only do it in one season and then leave you on the, unlike a cliffhanger, fuck that shit. Not interesting. Well, it felt like an A24 movie to me. Yeah, I can see that. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Scores, Brian? Easy 9 on 10. Damn. Lance? I'll go 7 and a half on this one. All right. I'm going to go 9. also.
Starting point is 01:02:34 This is one of my favorites that I watched that year. Yeah, it's it gives you all the familiar vampire things, but yet is also original in the story. It's real slow. You've got to be in the mood for it,
Starting point is 01:02:50 but it's a real good movie. Yeah. Don't be a fucking bully. Well, at some point you go past bully and you're into like criminal sociopath territory. Oh, Jesus Christ. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:09 That's kind of overkill there, huh? Is that, is that like a Swedish thing? I know we had some bullies, but they weren't like that. What bullies and movies are? Yeah, I don't know. I just, I don't like bullies, and then I just
Starting point is 01:03:28 like seeing them get their comeuppance, especially the kids, the kid that gets, popped in the head with stick. His older brother shows up and he's the one holding him underwater talking about if you come up for air and stab your eye out. Fuck that. Where's that?
Starting point is 01:03:45 You got to have irredeemable bad guys in the movie. And what is this? We've got a special guest that arrived. It's Matthew Goodrow from percolated media. What's up, Matthew? Yeah, I got out of the handcuffs and managed to find my way onto
Starting point is 01:04:01 Skype. Thank you all for having me. again, even though it's been a while. Very nice. Yeah. I haven't been that long. All right. So a writer, podcaster, co-founder of percolated media, what you guys got going on right now, Matthew? This year has been crazy. We have in the process right now of closing out our, an ultimate installment of our night shift retrospective for Stephen King.
Starting point is 01:04:31 so we'll be talking about the lawnmower man two beyond cybers. I'm sorry. Sorry to hear that. This whole night shift has largely been a chore, but my fellow co-founder is the definition of completionism, borderline sadist. I didn't even know that was a thing, lawnmower man too. Oh, me either, until I saw it on the schedule.
Starting point is 01:04:54 And I'm the one who makes the goddamn schedule. So when I came back and said, all right, we got the lawnmower man, then we're going to close that Planet of the Apes for the new one. He goes, nope, there's a lawnmower man's sequel. And I said, oh, you son of a bitch. But we got Plenty of the Aps 2.0 starting very soon to coincide with its new kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. We're going back to Star Wars this year to talk about the Disney films.
Starting point is 01:05:19 We're talking Alien this year. Mad Max. We got a ton of awesome retrospectives on the calendar this year. So it's going to be one of our busier years for sure. Very nice. Very nice. So what's your favorite out of all those that you're going to be covering? I would say, based on what we've taped already, which is almost everything, this Planet of the Apes retrospective that we've been doing, I think, is one of our best collection of shows. It's been a property I've wanted to cover for a long time. But I have a feeling that Alien is going to make for various spirit discussions, especially if you know Garrett's thoughts on the original movie. and I will actually retract everything I just said because knowing my two co-hosts,
Starting point is 01:06:06 I think the Disney Star Wars era, there's going to be body bags needed at the end of some of these shows. Because I know where I stand, I don't know where they stand, and based on the fact it's the internet and Star Wars, there's going to be more haymakers than a Rocky movie. I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Always a fun debate. Well, dude, we're glad you were inspired enough by Abigail to jump on, but you know how we do it around here, man. You've got to have a cool of the week or you're not allowed to play the game. So what's the coolest thing you've watched, read, video game you've played? It could be anything, dude. What is your cool of the week? So my cool of the week is actually going a little bit retro. I went to a local yard sale, just out of whim, looking for some stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And I bought an old GameCube, which I have not. Nice. I haven't owned one since I was probably 11 or 12. And I'm looking through the box of all the different games. I grab a couple. And I grabbed the one I want to highlight, because I haven't played it in so long. And it's, I think, now cemented in my top 10 favorite games. It is the 02 remake of the first Resident Evil game.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Oh, nice. Okay. It's probably my favorite game franchise if you forced me to pick one, certainly in the survival horror grouping. I know some of the games have steered more in the action way, but I would actually argue, I think the remake of the OG might be the best game in the series as far as, you know, visual upgrades certainly.
Starting point is 01:07:43 They've done good remakes before, but they kept the gameplay almost entirely identical, fixed the hokey dialogue, added the crimson heads to add some more tension, and playing the game on hard mode has really tested my ability to keep the remote control in my hands. So it's been a good practice for me, and it's been fun to rediscover that
Starting point is 01:08:03 because it's been so long since I played it. That was definitely the best game of the series, though. Like the original one, I loved playing that. So, yeah, I played the remake a little bit, and it was pretty awesome. Oh, you video game nerds. All right, well, we do have a movie to cover here. You guys.
Starting point is 01:08:23 What do we got going on next, Philip? All right, on to Abigail from 2024. We've got a little bit of trivia. You all came highly recommended. You know the rules. No real names. No backstories. No cellposs.
Starting point is 01:08:59 So whose kid is she? A very wealthy man who's about to be $50 million poorer. I'm here to make sure you're safe. What's your name? Mine's Abigail. You can call me Joey. Do you have any kids? I have a little boy.
Starting point is 01:09:15 See you in 24 hours. Do you know what a Pinky promises? If you behave and do as we say, like Pinky promise you. He'll all be over soon. Joey? Yeah. I'm sorry about what's going to happen to you.
Starting point is 01:09:36 After a group of criminals kidnapped, the ballerina daughter of a powerful underworld figure, they retreat to an isolated mansion. unaware that they're locked inside with no normal little girl. Directors are Matt Benetelli. Benetelli Alpin and Tyler Gillette. I don't know. Writers Stephen Shields and Guy Busek.
Starting point is 01:10:03 In an interview with Total Film, the directors felt they needed to apologize to the cast for the volume of blood that they used on set. They said all of our movies are bloody, but I would say this is definitely the most bloody. We spend a lot of time apologizing to our actors in this movie. I mean, blood is the DNA of a vampire movie, and the amount of blood work in this one, it's pretty extreme, but it's still fun. And yeah, I think I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:10:35 So the reason why I wanted to jump on this show is this is a movie that I went in as cold as possible. I actually did not see the trailer, so I wasn't aware that the marketing gave away the big reveal. Oh, wow. But I was intrigued by these directors, Radio Silence. I've been a fan of theirs ever since I saw the first VHS, and I don't think that's a great collective anthology. I do think their segment was the best one by far. It's the haunted house one, right? Yeah, and I've really liked everything they've done since. I'm notorious back on the binge days, Lance, when we did the scream sequels two through four. Didn't really care for any of them. And while I can't say that five is great, I had a good time and six is probably my favorite of the sequels in tandem
Starting point is 01:11:26 with what they did with Ready or Not, which was also a pleasant surprise. Again, movie I didn't know anything about. I've been championing these guys for a while in a genre that is always always looking for new blood, no pun intended. I think these guys have done a good job at championing and keeping this with both new properties or old properties with, you know, bringing back scream for another time. I've been impressed with what they do. They seem smart. They seem knowledgeable, but not in that smug, you know, overly meta, internet film geek
Starting point is 01:12:05 kind of way that some directors can come off. So this was something I was. excited about even before it was released, but like I said, I managed to avoid the trailers. I imagine that made it a lot better movie. Oh, absolutely did. Yeah, that's a, that's a pretty big reveal. Do you want me to give my take on the movie, like, quick 30 second thought? Yeah, no spoilers. We'll get the spoilers later. Overall, had a really good time with it. I did have some complaints that we'll sort of get into, but I think this is one of those great examples of having a, you know, a very limited concept all things
Starting point is 01:12:40 considered and certainly nothing that we have not seen before but it's the power one of those examples of the power of casting in your character work that really carries this thing. I think they've got a great ensemble together to add some depth
Starting point is 01:12:55 to these archetypes that we've seen a million times. I thought these directors had a lot of fun with some of the tropes they play with and in a year where I've seen quite a few things out in the theaters this was probably my most enjoyable experience of the year. Not perfect by any means, but a very, very pleasant
Starting point is 01:13:13 surprise, especially after last year when you go back to our site, we did Megan just on a whim, because Garrett wanted to talk about it because of the trailer hooked him so much, and I was really let down by it, all things considered. This, I saw Abigail, and then I watched the trailer on YouTube, and I wanted to smack these studio executives for... I know. I thought the same thing. I thought the same thing. Yeah, but that's my take. And I can understand that, but we were actually talking about it before we even started the show and I was like, well,
Starting point is 01:13:47 how else are you going to sell it without making it obvious that it's a vampire money? I think there is one thing. When we get into the actual plot, I think there's one thing you could have sold it on that they hint at. Brian, what'd you think? I, despite knowing what I know from the trailer, I I still, just based on what the directors have done with their past movies, I was still kind of anticipating this.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And I, after watching this, I just had, I had a blast watching this. I thought the comedy hit for me when there was comedy. It was gory, bloody. The cast was, I thought, great. I enjoyed everybody in the cast. Yeah, really good characters. I thought they gave us enough to know each. member of the cast, each member of this group that,
Starting point is 01:14:40 well, you already know from the trailer, the member of the group that kidnaps this little girl. I thought we got enough to know each character. And I thought the little girl, shit, I thought I had her name pulled up. I thought she did a great job portraying as a vampire ballerina, and she made it a lot of fun. And there's a lot of stuff I want to get to in spoilers. But yeah, I had a blast with this one. All right, Lance, what do you think? Yeah, this is going to be one of the shortest first rounds ever
Starting point is 01:15:12 because after seeing that trailer and probably about 15 minutes into the movie, I was fucking pissed. I was like, fuck you! I really honestly wish I'd gone into this not knowing that she was a vampire and thinking she was just a poor little girl. And maybe there's something else going on in the house, like maybe there's a ghost or someone else in there with them, or like a Scooby-Doo type thing where you've got to stay in there,
Starting point is 01:15:37 24 hours or whatever, but I was just so pleasantly surprised with all the twists. And the twist didn't take that long to get going, but boy, once they started coming, they were fast and furious one right after the other. So I'll say this. I don't want to say too much because I'm afraid I will accidentally spoil something. But this may not be my favorite movie of the year so far. That would probably go to Immaculate, but this was definitely the funnest movie in the year. I will never live that down.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Madam Webb. I still haven't watched Madam Webb. I mean, that was the scariest thing I've seen all year. I know. Haven't seen it. I'll never see it, Matt. I'm going to have to come up with a bottom 10 list, so I know I'm going to have to watch it, but I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:16:27 I would say it just because you love Dakota Johnson so much, but don't even bother. I know. That's saying a lot that I'm not bothering, right? I don't like watching shitty Marvel movies. It makes me sad. Well, that's all Sony's been putting out with their Spider-Man extended universe. Yeah, I know. It's rough.
Starting point is 01:16:52 It's like they're, it's almost like they're doing it out of spite. It seems that way, doesn't it? Yeah, there's an absurd part of them that's just sort of trolling the diehard fans, taking these tertiary characters like Corbius and Madam Webb and really not doing them. any semblance of justice. I know. I was really excited about the Morvious one, too. And then it was garbage. All right. Abigail.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So I can kind of forgive them giving the, I don't know if it's really a twist, but it is a main plot line. It's kind of fun to go into it knowing that she's a vampire and like the whole. first of the half of the movie, you're like, oh, they're fucking up. So that was a little bit of fun. But yeah, it would have been probably a better movie going into it blind, although I don't know if as many people would have gone to see it had they not given the fun part away in the trailer. Yeah, it would have been hard to make that trailer, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:03 But yeah I had a pretty great time I loved everybody in the cast And yeah The Angus Cloud guy I was watching that That other movie you were talking about Brian that he was in
Starting point is 01:18:17 You're lucky day Yeah I was watching that And my wife came by and she was like Oh that's the guy from Euphoria That killed himself This must be his last movie And then I was watching him in this And I'm like are we talking about the same person here
Starting point is 01:18:30 Because that's the same guy but he was pretty great actor yeah sucks but yeah everybody else did a pretty great job and I had a great man I can't know how much I can talk about without spoiling it but obviously there's going to be some kills in this movie
Starting point is 01:18:53 the kills were amazing I loved them like a lot yeah fair enough It was blood everywhere. All right. Scores, Matthew, what do you think? This is a very enthusiastic. I'm going to give this eight onions out of ten.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And if you've seen the movies. That fucking big guy. I don't know his name. Kevin Duran. Not the guy who plays for the sons. That's Kevin Duran. I love that. and everything that he's in.
Starting point is 01:19:31 That guy's fucking huge, too. Like, just putting him next to everybody else in this movie. And it's weird because he plays the heavy and almost everything he's in, given his size. But this is the first time where he's somewhat likable. Because normally he's just, you know, either the silent muscle or like a scumbag. But he's really funny in this one. What's with his accent, though, right? What was that in the Rocky?
Starting point is 01:19:56 Like, oh, Adrian. Do you have marbles in his mouth? Well, I said he was a French-Canadian, and there's very, like, small affectations if you listen to his cadence. All right. I'll buy that, Matthew. I'll buy that. All right. Scores.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Oh, you said eight. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I'm right there with him. This is an easy aid. A lot of fun. Love the cast. The trailer, spoiling. didn't really bother me.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I just went in with it to have some fun. And yeah, a great vampire movie. Wow. So far, so good. We're all at eight. You two? Yeah, eight. Eight on ten.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Eight on ten. I think that sounds like a pretty fair score. This was a lot of us, man. We hit it. Yeah. And see, I really enjoyed Megan last year when I watched it. But it's because I didn't see any of the time. trailers or anything.
Starting point is 01:21:02 And, but this one, this one is like Megan to me, but it's actually a better movie. And, well, we're going to do it in spoilers. Let's go to spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:21:24 You've been fucking warned. The, uh, the exploding blood bag. Hills were fantastic. I loved it every time it happened. Glad it wasn't just for sunlight. Yeah. And I'm glad it happened more than once.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Oh, yeah. Well, the best thing is there's with the first one, there's like a three second delay after they get, after he gets stabbed. So you just you think they're going to do like the blade thing with it with a skeleton burns up where he turns to ash. Nope. He explodes like a grenade
Starting point is 01:21:58 went off at his chest. It's comedic timing. And you brought it up, the onions. I got a good chuckle out of that because Dan Stevens was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Black garlic, there's a fucking onions. And I don't cook. And I really enjoyed Melissa Barrera in this.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I'm glad she, you know, with her old, you know, Controvert, well, I'm doing air quotes Controversy because it wasn't really controversial to me. But her getting kicked off a scream and able to be in this movie, I'm glad she's still able to get work because I thought I thought she was great in this. Wow, I thought we had a lot more talking about.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I know. What are the spoilers are there? So is she our new Samara weaving or what, guys? No, she looks like, her character reminded me of what's her name from Don't Breathe? Oh, Jane Levy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's that same, like, you know, she's the thief for the conscience. You know, she's like the only one who seems of decent moral, because much like Don't Breathe, she has a kid. Okay, makes sense. I can see that.
Starting point is 01:23:15 And that was the one thing. So I mentioned in the preamble what I thought you could have sold the movie on. They drop that. There's that subplot where they tease you. about the hitman? Yes, yes. If one person's like the hit person who's infiltrated to wipe them all out, you could have sold it on that sort of like predator where they're being hunted.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah, I could see that. That would have been a good way to keep it out. Yeah, it's like the don't breathe, like a mix of don't breathe and some of those other or like wait until dark with a tree have burn, something like that. But I thought when the vampire things, thing actually happened because this thing I had it was the biggest mind fuck for me when it actually happened that I love with the teeth it's not just rows of jagged teeth there's a lot of neat little references like visually between her design and there's when he's covered in blood he's got
Starting point is 01:24:23 the glasses on. He looks just like Bill Paxton from near dark. And I don't think that was coincidence. Probably not. Yeah. And they had the, like when the one was bitten, you got the kind of glossy skin there, which was in the maybe we just saw let the right one in. The same thing happened, right? When they were kind of, and I like the way they were puppeteers rather than, you know, just making another vampire or like them being, you know, like somebody like the old man that goes out and kills people for him. I enjoyed that puppet aspect. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, I love that too, Lance. And I love that Dan Stevens tried to do that later with Marissa Barrera's character. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, Abigail had to let him know you have to learn these tricks over years over time.
Starting point is 01:25:08 That was a great. You just don't do it. She said, some of this shit, you've got to get really fucking old to learn or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And there's the whole, I think that girl, by the way, The only thing I've other thing I've seen her in is the Matilda musical that the dead on Netflix. Oh, God. Okay. I think she's going to be a big star. Because much like Dan Steven, who I think is fantastic in, I think she's got a lot of range. And I buy her, you know, looks young but has lived for seemingly centuries.
Starting point is 01:25:44 I thought that was handled really well. The movie really reminding me of, I think it's a better version of from dust till dawn. where it's the same type of conceit where the characters don't realize they're in a vampire movie until the audience does. But I like how, unlike from Dust Till Dawn, there's no Quentin Tarantino being such an abysmal actor to suck. To be his own vampire suck the energy out of the movie. Like everyone in this, like Catherine, I thought Catherine Newton was great. I'm glad she's embracing her, you know, borderline scream queen horror persona that she's had. So, yeah, not a lot for me to complain about, really.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Okay, so I've got a plot point I want to talk to you guys about. Was I the only one that kind of thought until Matthew Good actually finally showed up, that there was no father? I don't know. I did get the impression that it was, they were, vampires were a little more scarce. Like, there's just a few of them, you know. I don't know. I didn't get, I didn't get there scarce. because she kept referring to the organization. Right. Oh, yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Well, see, I took that to mean, like, their organization where there's one vampire in charge because nobody can fucking do anything about it. Yeah. Leave it out for sequels, maybe. Well, until they had their little worker bees that were vampires, too, so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Gene Carla Esposito. Yeah. He's just basically a puppet, too. Yep. He's kind of great. and everything, is he not? Yeah, over-exposed, but yeah. No, I honestly thought...
Starting point is 01:27:31 I don't hate it, I like him. Well, until you got that one scene, and who better to play the vampire than Matthew Good, right? But I honestly thought that she was the mastermind of everything and that we were going to find out. Because I noticed when they showed the painting on the wall with her and, you know, quote-unquote father, his face was always covered.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Like, he had a hat on and you couldn't see. And I thought, this is where they're going with it. But nope, they twisted it yet again at the very end. So I liked all the twists, right? Like the puppet and then what you think is going to happen doesn't happen and then certain
Starting point is 01:28:05 people turn into vampires and then fucking Dan Stevens handing it up, right? I haven't seen it. That seems to be his thing lately, right? Well, that's like blade level handing it up. Am I right, Matthew? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's Stephen dorffing it.
Starting point is 01:28:21 In a good way, because, you know, that's where the only other beat Steven Dorf has actually been good in. Ouch. I can't remember the last time I was seeing that, dude. Been a while. I was going to bring up, I love the way she maintained her ballerina character throughout the movie. Even like when she's chasing people down, she's doing little ballet leaps over obstacles and spins. Slash Ninja. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah, one thing that really got me about this movie that I, that brought it up from like, you know, a seven to an eight is the set design was gorgeous. And it kind of looked like the house, obviously, I was talking to Pat earlier. And he was like, that kind of looked like the same exact house from Ready or not, just with different decorations in it. And so like you've got all the paintings on the wall. You've got all the old stuff that she's collected over the years. and I guess the fathers, you know, collected over the years.
Starting point is 01:29:22 And then you've got just a gorgeous horror movie score. Like, for a minute, I honestly thought I was watching. And it was the one scene where Barrera was going through the house. And like you had that strong, powerful score behind her. And she's looking at all these weird oddities and stuff like that. And I'm like, this is like an old universal monster movie, like the old black and white ones. So I really appreciate the way that they showed so much homage to other stuff. you know well with all the the you know mansion architecture trap doors the the elevator i thought
Starting point is 01:29:59 this was a resonable movie like this might as well have been the spencer the spencer mansion with all the the traps and stuff but i like the the set design this is really good and i like that for a house that is seemingly huge they do a good job of of establishing a layout within the context of the movie's you don't feel like you're getting lost. Like you have a good idea of what the floor plan of this place looks like. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, and then like when they're all in the bar and they're taking advantage of the, you know, the alcohol bottles and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It was pretty cool, man. Just great set design, great score and beautifully filmed movie. They did a good job on this. I'm like you guys, I'm looking forward to seeing everything else that they do after this. Well, speaking of development of this, Did you know this was supposed to be part of the dark universe at one point? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:30:54 I think that's why it went so... It was like an untitled for a while. Universal Monster movie. It was going to be called Dracula's daughter. That was going to be, you know, playing off the original Universal one from like 1936. That makes sense. That's what it felt like. Makes perfect sense, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Makes perfect sense. But, you know, much like some of the vampires in this movie, that Dark Universe exploded. with blood after one flop. So they kind of reworked it. You know, there's something more, if you look at the posters and that stuff, it looks more like the bad seed or those, you know, children from hell movies that we've gotten a ton of. Not necessarily a vampire movie, which this is.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Sure. Yeah, it's, the only complaint I have is I do wish Matthew that I hadn't known she was going to be a vampire, because that would have added to, wait, what's going on inside the house? Like, because I don't think they really, did they show for sure that it was her when the first guy died or am I misremembering the, no. No. Okay, they thought they thought, she thought, she didn't know who was.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Yeah, they thought who her people were there to rescue her and were in the house. All right. All right. Well, they kind of pulled a boner by giving her way too much away in the, in the trailer, but I'll forgive them. It was a great movie. Funest movie of the year so far. So you guys ready to take it out for the night?
Starting point is 01:32:26 Yeah. All right, Matthew, thanks for joining this, dude. Where is Percolated Media? Where can we find you? So you can find me on the airwaves at percolatedmedia.net. We drop a new show every Friday. All right. And as always, of course, we want to thank all of you,
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Starting point is 01:33:08 I know it's a subject. Well, we're going to talk some spiders with the brand new infested, or as we knew it when we saw the trailer Vermeens, I guess is pronounced right, as well as arachnophobia. So, Phillip, until the horror returns again, good night. Oh, that one sound like that.

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