The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #417: Kidnapped (2010) & The Strangers: Chapter 1 (2024)

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

This week we check out the brand-new Strangers movie as well as Spain's Kidnapped. Cool of the week includes Dune 2, Hereditary, and Logan the Wolf. Trailers are Never Let Go and Longlegs. The podcast... spotlight shines on Spoils of Horror. And we get listener feedback from Niki McMahon, Samantha Oty, Mike Cadaver, Nick Roth, Ian Plunkett, Cameron Sullivan, Daniel Ryan, Ariel Wellman, Tim Davis, Christina Bainbridge, Larry Sheets. Sean Holland, Ferenc Gergely, Kirsty-Marie Hunt, Joshua Allen, Dan Michael-Trojan, Chris Shadowz, Pete Mayberry, Medeleine LeDespencer, Don Lowery, Stephanie Baggley, Isabel Shields, Terrance McNeil, Susan Moyland Farquharson, Liam Tindall, Aaron J Martin, and Bradley Francis. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to The Horror Returns.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Lance. With me as always. We have Brian. We have Philip and... We might have Ness popping by to put in his two cents on a movie if we're very, very lucky. That was a super subdued opening, man.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah. Well, look, dude. Pedro, I've had family here all weekend, and they run me ragged, dude. Oh, I got it. Lots of Disney parks and the beach. And a pool day, AJ was none too happy. Which you hope those trulys drink too fucking fast, guys. Yeah, they're dangerous.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Jesus Christ. That was not a good idea. So, yeah, AJ's been in a state of anger the last week, so we'll see where that goes. But hey, listeners, you guys have all found the horror returns. And a lot more listeners, you are, we've noticed. As we scan our download numbers, keep those emails coming, getting lots of emails from great people that we're happy to invite you all into the community.
Starting point is 00:02:05 We get lots of stuff through Facebook. I promised you guys at Brian's behest I promised you all a double wide feedback episodes so we've got it tonight and two movies and an extra reviewer for one of the films so you guys
Starting point is 00:02:22 ready to get this thing going? Yeah we even got two trailers this week oh yeah two trailers and damn one of them looks fucking good so and that's about the third trailer I've seen for that one's like each time I see it it gets better
Starting point is 00:02:38 Well, this is the one I'm thinking you're talking about. This is the actual official trailer. Those were like teasers because they were being really cryptic about what the movie's about. Yeah, this one wasn't quite as cryptic, was it? No. Can't wait to see that particular actor as a serial killer. Or it looks like that's what they're setting him up to be, right? I think it's confirmed.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Okay. All right. Cool of the week. he's ready to jump in. I'm going to have to think about it. I'll go. I only got one movie in and pretty damn
Starting point is 00:03:15 fucking good movie, Dune Part 2. Oh, yeah. You liked it more than I did then. That's good. That's good. I loved it. A little talkie-talkie for me.
Starting point is 00:03:26 There was too much time between the action sequences. But it was world building, Lance. You got to tell the story. And I felt like they did a damn good job of it. And the visuals were amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:40 The cast was amazing. Yeah, they had like wars and shit in this one. Yeah. Like that. What's that? Oh, the wars and shit in this one. Yeah. All that was kind of missing from the first one. Yeah, and then I bitched that it's not close enough to the book.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And then we get something that's exactly like the book and I still bitch. So what does that tell you? Yeah. I thought it was fantastic. Rebecca Ferguson was probably. one of the most outstanding characters in it. And then I always pronounce his name wrong. Timothy Sholome.
Starting point is 00:04:15 How do you say? Yeah, his character, Paul, his progression on where he was in the first movie to where he is at the end of this one, amazing. Yeah. I agree with you. I caught that one, too. I was pretty excited about it. Yeah. So I can definitely use that.
Starting point is 00:04:37 is my cool of the week because I skipped it on one of the other weeks. Another one I watched this week was Voyagers. You guys seen that? It's Colin I hated it, man.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It was terrible. Yeah, what do you think? Carl takes a bunch of test tube kids to space. I know. Are they like banging on the spaceship? Well, So they were given this drug that keeps them from, keeps them a little more submissive and keeps the hormones from taking over because it's a bunch of teenagers. It comes across as a very young adult.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And they figure out, they're also very smart. And so they figure out this thing that they're taking is messing with them. So they stop taking it. And then it's Lord of the Flies on a spaceship. Great idea. I like the concept. I just didn't care for the execution that much. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You know what? I'm kind of there with you. I can't really call it my cool week. I'm going to go with Dune as my week, and I didn't even expect to talk about us. But, uh, but yeah, this one was,
Starting point is 00:05:54 like, it had a good cast. Colin Farrell was great, but he wasn't in it for very long. Um, but like a lot of the young actors are up and comers. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:05 but it still just kind of came across. very bland, I guess is a good word for it. Kind of hunger games-ish? Yeah, yeah. It just, it needed a little something in there that it didn't have. Definitely an audience for that. Other than that, I've been watching Forged and Fire. It's a great show. I love it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 That's like knives and swords and shit. Yeah. I've seen a little bit of the show, but I, I, sometimes I watch like YouTube videos of people doing that or like finding like old metal stuff and cleaning it and restoring it it's very it's very calming it's it's a cool show it's like they put them in like this top chef kind of situation right where here's the thing you're using here's what you have to make and you have it in a time limit go and and it's always kind of hectic but you don't have to pay attention to all of it so
Starting point is 00:07:06 I put it on in the background and do stuff around the house. Yeah, it's a lot of fun, Brian. I've been over Phil's house a couple of times, and we've blown through like five or six episodes of that before we even know where the time went, right? Yeah, you're just hanging out and talking. It's a fun show. It's one of those you don't have to pay attention to. I like it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And that's all I got this week. I just remembered one more I checked out earlier today. I'm not going to say too much about it, because I think. think it's going to be another quick reviews with me and Nez. Okay. It's another fan film. This time it's Logan the Wolf.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's a Wolverine fan film. Oh, I almost watched that. What? I came across it on YouTube. Fucking outstanding. Is it? I'm adding it. I'm adding it.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Just all I'll say is a Nordic Viking version of Logan. That is awesome. That is awesome. And the effects were amazing. choreography was amazing and Nez is the one who sent me so I'm assuming we're going to do quick reviews if not
Starting point is 00:08:14 we're going to do it anyways Yeah, now it's how long free on YouTube, right? Yeah, it's under 10 minutes, it's like nine minutes and some change Oh, so a real short then Yeah Cool
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, maybe we'll Well, maybe we'll watch it next week when Steve's on the show with us or something And yeah, a matter of fact quick commentary. I'm going to send it to them right now. Just to make sure. Y'all want to do it?
Starting point is 00:08:41 You want to plan for that? We'll do a quick little commentary before we start the regular show. Yeah. Yeah, we can. All right, I'm going to... Yeah, I'll hold off on watching it until then. Okay, me too.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Logan the Wolf. I like it. All right, cool. So let's see, we got Dune Part 2. We've got Logan the Wolf. I guess I'll go with Heretic. Terry, you know, it's a, I know low-hanging fruit, but I did a re-watch of it earlier in the week right before all the, all the family got here and things got chaotic, which, boy, we had a good time, man. It was, it was just a blast. My son-in-law, RJ is just like one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:09:24 people that I have the privilege of spending time with, and I had to see my daughter and my grandson and his girlfriend. We just had a blast doing the Disney parks and the pool, the beach, you know they were only here like four days but we got like eight days we get in which is part of the reason I'm so fucking exhausted right now but could never wish for a better husband and father than uh then my son-in-law RJ shout out I know you guys listen to the show a lot so hopefully you'll listen to this episode and feel the love man he's a cool dude man I like RJ a lot RJ is amazing and I guess that's my clue of the week too but I'll
Starting point is 00:10:05 throw hereditary down. No more need be said about it. I do have a man of the week Brian unfortunately and I think you probably know where I'm going we saw the trailer I don't know Lance I don't know what you're mad and you're just like sorry anymore let me give you a clue
Starting point is 00:10:25 let me give you a clue it was produced by the director of Hereditary, which got me to watching Hereditary, because I'm like, let's see something good this guy's been involved in. I don't know why he put his name on this. Sasquatch Sunset. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Who else has seen it? No. I was going to watch it, but where is it? Where did you find it? I found it. Gorgeous, look, gorgeous cinematography, a really great score but just
Starting point is 00:11:03 fart jokes it's nothing but an hour and a half of fart jokes guys it really is and throwing poop and that sounds amazing it does doesn't it
Starting point is 00:11:15 but it's not somehow it's not does it have that aria aster moments where you're just like the fuck is wrong with this guy I know he just produced it but did they put
Starting point is 00:11:28 some of that in there. You know, something about this must have called out to him, right? For him to throw his money behind it, but nah, to me it was a little... It was a little lowest common denominator for me. Like with Arioster when he does comedy, it's like
Starting point is 00:11:45 just, it's dark, dark brooding, evil comedy. And this was just like, you know, throwing poop. I don't know, man. You know, Sasquatch are always funny. after two or three of them they lose a little bit of their humor man it's just got a little it is what it is i mean i'd watch it just for the you know i don't i think they filmed it obviously
Starting point is 00:12:10 they filmed it up in ammon's neck of the woods you know because you got all the giant redwood trees and the forests and all that beauty but uh i don't know guys i was maybe i was expecting too much but uh did not make full of the week how was uh how was uh was it kingdom of the planet of apes? I know you've seen that. It was better than this. I mean, great,
Starting point is 00:12:36 great computer effects. Other than, I mean, fire, you still have problems with fire. I haven't seen it yet. It's gotten it totally right. But like,
Starting point is 00:12:46 because you basically followed a clan that, um, trains eagles. Like that's their, you know, that's what they do is they have pet eagles that they train. And I don't know. Some of these,
Starting point is 00:12:57 computer graphics were, I was believing the apes were real and also the Eagles. It definitely helped to see it, I think, in the theater, you know, on the big screen added quite a bit to it. But it's very slow and it's a lot of, again, world building like you guys were talking about with the other movies. So, yeah, it's a lot of world building. Obviously, I think they're going to make at least, you know, a couple more. Because what happens is at the very beginning, they show the the funeral of Caesar, and then it says many, many, many generations later. It gets you up really close to the
Starting point is 00:13:33 time frame of when the humans landed, you know, and found out it was actually Earth again. It's getting within that. Yeah, we're getting back into that time frame. So I wouldn't be too surprised. That'll be the last movie of the trilogy. I think it will be.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I really do, man. I really do. So, yeah, I enjoyed it. Glad I saw it in the theater. I'm going to go see Furiosa Friday. That's exciting. Oh, nice. That one I can't wait for.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, those last few Planet of the Apes movies have been really good. I just have a lot of desire to see this one. I'll just check it out. Yeah, I thought that trilogy as a whole was pretty damn good. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully this will start another trilogy. All right, Brian, you got some news finally starting to come out for us? Yeah, we got some release dates, but some release dates for next.
Starting point is 00:14:27 year. Of course. Of course. Oh, and by the way, Kevin Durand, not Kevin Durant, plays an excellent king of the apes. Like, he's in a different tribe, the one that's kind of like trying to get all the apes to sort of join with him. Last scene in Abigail. This dude, he's starting to be in a lot of horror movies right now, too. Yeah, he was just a Frightmare. Oh, yeah, we missed him. Pedro was there. I hope he records a many episode for us because Pedro ended up, I think, wasn't he the only one that rep THR
Starting point is 00:15:05 there? Yeah, Nez was supposed to go, but he couldn't make it. Yeah, shit happens. We all wanted to go, right? Yeah. I seen, I forgot, I think it was Instagram. I think Kevin Durand was, I think he was taking pictures with people outside the convention center.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, that's cool. He strikes me as a super cool dude. I would think the two people I would want to meet the most would be like him and help me out the dude that plays the Punisher in the Marvel TV. John Bernthal. Berenthal. He would be fucking amazing to meet.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I think like super real down. They just strike me as really real real and down to earth. I like him and everything. You guys ever listen to his podcast? I have. I have. I have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's fucking crazy. He's Kurt Engel's nephew-in-law. Oh, okay. Really? Yeah, he married his niece. Huh. Interesting. Small world, Philip.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. All right. Let's see. The first release, we're getting, of course, because of the last movie made some money, but wasn't a good movie. We're getting the sixth insidious movie.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Of course we are. August, August 29th. next year. These are next year's releases. Okay. All right. Well, we got to get used to that, I guess. Yeah, I mean, at this point, if the movie makes money, especially if you think that you can open up a franchise or it's part of a franchise already, it's getting a sequel or two or three. And it doesn't matter about the integrity of the artwork.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It's going to make money. I was more excited for as far as in the Insidious franchise. They had announced a spinoff movie called Threads. Okay. And I guess the Threads series of movies were supposed to be like different storylines. Basically all new stories. Going into the further. Ha, that might not be neat.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah. I was more excited for that, but I guess we're getting a six Sidious movie. I don't know if they're going to... Is one of them supposed to be Poltergeist? Because that's basically what this is. Yeah. I wonder what they're doing with that franchise. I know
Starting point is 00:17:43 Amazon got, when they bought MGM, that was one of the names of the franchises they were going to revive. But Poulterguise, might. lend itself to a good TV series like 10 or 12 episode a season series right
Starting point is 00:17:59 oh that could be good yeah yeah different stories different families or like a real slow burn haunting you know yeah why not let's see here we're getting a new
Starting point is 00:18:15 I know what you did last summer movie now this is going to be a continuation from the original movies not a reboot And I believe it's rumored that Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddie Prince Jr. are coming back. I think that's been confirmed. RJ and I were looking at that over the weekend. And he's like, man, is Jennifer Love Hewitt in it?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah, I think so. We looked it up and there she is. So maybe they're passing the torch. Who knows? I mean, she's got to still be hot, right? Oh, absolutely. And this one is a July 18th, 2020, 2025 release date.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I wish I could say I'd give a shit, but I don't. I know. I know. One of Lance's least favorite movies, The Black Phone 2, well, the Black Phone was your least favorite movie, but the sequel gets a October 17, 2025 release date.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Maybe it'll be better. That one ended up on your bottom of the year list, it did. It did. I think it ended up on y'all's top. didn't it? Yeah. You're making it on your bottom, like, amazed a lot of people. Well, night swim won't be on my bottom this year, so.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Is it going to be on the top? No. It's not going to be on the top. Is it still in your top as we speak? I'd kind of have to look through my list that I'm keeping here, but it may be dangling on by its fingernails, yeah. All right. Megan, 2.0. June 27, 2025.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm ready. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do with that, you know? Like, how much further can you go? She's already in the system. We've reached singularity. For all the kids out there, five nights at Freddy 2, December 5th, 2025. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm surprised it took that long to throw out another one. Yeah, I think they're going to put more, I don't want to say effort into the story. Okay. Because they release some pictures and they're already at work at the animatronics and stuff like that. Okay. That's pretty cool. So I like a little time in between movies. Yeah, I do too, but this one seems like a franchise.
Starting point is 00:20:53 where they'd be just chucking them out there. And it might be soon, right? Like after this one, there may be a backlog. If it's successful. Yeah. I'm sure it will be. Yeah. I think that was all that was really announced. Oh, we got some traction on Friday the 13th, but in a different way.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Okay. They released, who is it, Horror Inc., the company that owns, I guess, some sort of portion of the franchise released a website called Jason's Universe and they announced that this is going to kick off games, merchandise, and other kind of media. Okay. Which kind of spilt over into the whole Crystal Lake Peacock series that everybody thought was canceled. It is not canceled. They're just switching up the showrunners and going in a different direction that was pretty. previously announced. So that's still going.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But no announcement on a new movie because apparently that part of the franchise, the movie side is still tied up in a bunch of bullshit. And I guess it's because of New Line Cinema. They own the movie rights. Come on.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, they need to get their shit together. Do what Sony did with Marvel and write the coattails of the MCU and just keep cashing that check. Every time man shows up in a movie, right? That's true. You own the rights to it. You still make money off of it, and you don't have to do anything.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, I don't know what goes through some people's minds. I mean, if you really think about it, we haven't had a Friday the 13th movie since 2009. We haven't had a nightmare on Elm Street since 2010, and these are like two of the biggest horror icons. Yeah, that's ridiculous. There's no need for that, man. somebody's got to figure something out. Can't we all just get along? Revive them for a new generation.
Starting point is 00:22:59 No kidding. But in a good way, because I think that's what the remakes were. I like the Friday the 13th one, but that... I did too. That nightmare on Elstreet one was not good. And I'm being nice.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I love Jason being a weed farmer. I thought that was a cool twist. They just left him alone. that's right let him farm his weed some killer weed man all right that's the news all right uh so it's time to go down to the trailer park brian is gonna bring us the big the small and the very very weird and hopefully tonight more than just one trailer yep we got two trailers all right busy week busy week two trailers came out with the past almost two weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Wow. First one is a new one from, I believe, Lionsgate films. Never Let Go, starring Holly Berry and a couple of kids who by the trailer looks like they're about to make some dumb decisions.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Okay. Let's see. Synopsis. A family that has been haunted by an evil spirit for by an evil spirit for years. Their safety and their surroundings come into question when one of the children questions if the evil is real. Like I said, dumb decisions.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Or... Or... Is mom keeping them captive because she's trying to shield them from the truth? And this is what... This is what has me excited. This is directed by Alexandra AHA. Yeah. Did the Hills Have Eyes?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Piranha 3. are you saying you saying we might get a topless holly berry i'm i'm not going to rule it out but i feel like she's kind of past that in her career yeah okay well i wouldn't get mad yeah i i wouldn't walk out the theater well no yeah how old is hallie berry right now she's got to be in her 50s she's yeah probably my age that's what i'm thinking i mean she's still looks fantastic, but Oh, of course. Let's look it out because now I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:25:30 She might be even pushing 60. Yeah, and the only problem is like Hallie Berry movies where she's the lead. Yeah? And like carrying the whole movie are usually not awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Not the best? She is 57. 57. Look at that. She's almost 60s. She's almost 60 years old. Still a baddie. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, the Alexandra Aha gives me hope that this movie's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I don't know. I'm not sure what I get out of the trailer. I mean, I like the premise that these two children have been told by their mother that there's something out and when they go out, they have to go out of certain time and they have to tie this rope to them.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Right. And then one of the kids basically does some stupid kid shit and just like, well, I've never seen it. So, I don't think it's real. And decides to take the rope off and kind of venture out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It looks a little, a quiet place ish. Yeah. At the beginning. Okay. And we'll see. I'm sure there's got to be a twist, though. There's got. Yeah, there's got to be. Right. The kid asking questions is going to unravel the story. I thought it was going to be in the Birdbox universe at first when they had the rope.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But then I'm like, wait a minute. They're not wearing blindfolds. That would have been cool. Another movie in the Birdbox universe? I'd go for that with Holly Berry. Why not? Yeah. And I kind of... She'll see. I kind of hope that with this movie we get some explanation, not just... They have to tie a rope to them.
Starting point is 00:27:22 and that's what it is. Yeah. No, I guess there's a chance that it is just a straightforward style thing like bird box where there's just an evil or whatever. But I'm guessing that's not it. It's going to be like the others, I think, where at the end you're going to, oh, they were the ghosts all along, you know, that kind of thing. there was some cool visuals like at the very end of the trailer with the you didn't see what it was climbing up the tree but it was like two hands and then it became like eight hands crawling up the tree yeah that's creepy i know that actually gave me a little bit of hope i'm like okay maybe there is a monster yeah or it's in her mind yeah could be i hope not i like i want to see a good creature feature seventh this year okay this year
Starting point is 00:28:24 all right yeah way to go where to go that's a timely trailer another another trailer that we're going to talk about is for a movie that also comes out this year
Starting point is 00:28:38 so Hollywood you're two for two awesome and that is we well we talked about the teaser a little while back and that's for I think it's Osgood, Perkins, long legs.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Starring Nicholas Cage and Micah Munro. What'd you guys think? I think this is going to be another hit for Nicholas Cage. This is going to be a number one movie contender for me, I think. This says everything I like from the trailer. I think so, too. I mean, and I like their keeping us from seeing Nicholas Cage. There was a quick flash of somebody would.
Starting point is 00:29:22 long hair kind of standing all creepy I saw that was him and then you hear his voice he's got a little a joker thing going on with his voice from Superman to the Joker huh he does it all I hope he goes full Nick Cage
Starting point is 00:29:37 in this one I think you can count on that handy version Nick Cage that's what I'm I'm hearing I mean it could just be talk to hype up the movie but they're saying this probably one of his most unhinged performances. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That couldn't have described it any more perfectly. That sounds awesome. Kind of sounds like they were like, all right, Nick, you're playing a serial killer. Do your thing. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. And Nick was like, can I wear a wig with long hair? And they were like, sure. Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:15 Nick out. Nick out. So it kind of sounds like we're all. all definitely in on this one and it'll be the return of a cage rage episode awesome outstanding because well i don't i don't think any of us have seen his other movie that came out this year arcadian no creature feature movie that i've heard good things about okay awesome yeah man i'd fucking nick cage at his finest i'll take it and it's neon they've done a lot of good stuff lately yeah you you think he's added debt now because it seemed like all of a sudden the quality of his movies jumps yeah
Starting point is 00:31:02 well and i think he's found his groove in his little comeback that he's doing here yeah you know of like all right let me just lean into this nick cage thing and i'll just play me in every movie and we're like yeah do more of that More, please. Yeah. All right, this one comes up July 12th. Awesome. And that is the last trailer. That'll be fun in the theaters.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Oh, yeah. And I really enjoy Michael Monroe. She's been in a lot of good stuff. What has she been in? It follows the guest. Yeah. A couple years ago wasn't that great. The one where she was in Budapest or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:55 She was good in it. It was just a kind of generic story. It was nothing that you haven't seen. But I think even when the movie's not so great, I kind of feel like she does her thing in it. She doesn't phone it in, basically. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree.
Starting point is 00:32:13 She's in that movie, Lance, I told you to watch with Dave DeHan. The stranger, right? Yeah. I think I saw the first little mini episode or two, and then I started watching something else, so I've got to come back to it. Okay. This is the Dane DeHaan film.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Speaking of Dane DeHan, did he email us this week, Philip? I don't know. We'll find out. I'm going to read it with y'all. So you get to listen to me a trip over a double dose of listener feedback this week. All right. But first we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on spoils of horror.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Stephen and Leo set out on a blood soap gamble to make each other watch horror movies and share with you the nightmares that they see. These horror movie hangouts invite you to sit back, crack jokes, and share the love of horror. That's classic, popular lost, and bizarre. are episodes released on Wednesdays. Sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, spoils of horror. Check it out. Nikki McMahon says,
Starting point is 00:33:26 Hi there. I'm reaching out on behalf of Welcome Villains Film. Welcome villain films. Specifically, their newest film, Mind, Body, Spirit. Oh. There you go. I would love to discuss having the filmmakers come on the show to chat about their newest project, as well as the horror genre as a whole.
Starting point is 00:33:45 let me know if we can figure something out yes you can I think we I think we will Samantha Odie from a real horror show sent us an email hey thanks for your recent support Facebook is pretty automated for us these days so I didn't want you to think I wasn't appreciative cool we share nice Mike cadaver says a great last name Cadabber. Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the constantly sharing stuff from the corpse collective group. Cadabber. I really do appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I wish I had more time to do more for the horror community, especially the horror podcast community. But unfortunately, I barely have time to keep what I have going. I just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate it. We appreciate you. Very nice. Yeah, a lot of love. Nick Roth says I'm a TV writer and an indie filmmaker
Starting point is 00:34:46 and I would love to be a guest on your podcast partly because I'm very interested and love to hear myself talk but also for literally any chance to plug my very new very independent no budget puppets and blood comedy horror of me Pinky Pinky Puppets and blood I've heard of this movie
Starting point is 00:35:07 No shit! It has what's his name jay burshell not kevin durand you guys know jay burshell absolutely yeah i think he's in the movie jay bursh what's he from uh this is the end philadelphia right oh he's the funny yeah yeah yeah isn't he in that one or i'm thinking of somebody i might be thinking of michael sarer the the the skinny little like jewish guy from yeah yeah right yeah okay when they keep calling a hipster
Starting point is 00:35:41 because his pants are awfully tied at the ankles I like that guy anyway it just came out on Apple TV Amazon Prime and Google Play and which Christy Puchko of Mashable recently called a gleefully absurd
Starting point is 00:36:01 avalanche of silliness That sounds right up my alley Yeah And which a random person on letterbox described as an extremely dumb movie that I enjoyed immensely. Now you're right up my alley. Okay. We'll get him on the show, but go check out it hanky-panky.
Starting point is 00:36:23 That sounds awesome. Definitely, definitely you're coming on the show. Whether you know it yet or not, we'll figure something out. And please let... Oh, same guy, I guess, sorry. please let me know if you'd uh have me on i'd be happy to send you a private screener link i'm also a dad and a dm and a wg a captain and an adjunct film processor at cal state northridge go maddor uh so you know i'm well-rounded in my podcasty entering interestingness
Starting point is 00:36:58 uh trailer links uh on our very very professional website i clearly built myself at http all this stuff Hankypanky the movie.com That's easy to remember. I like it. Ian Plunkett says Hello, my name is Ian Plunkett and I'm an actor from Glasgow
Starting point is 00:37:23 I was in a short horror film called Flesh and Blood a few years ago and was wondering if it would be possible if you to review it. Many thanks for taking the time to read my message. Kind regards Ian. Flesh and blood, all right. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:37:38 We have a lot of movies to watch, guys. Yeah, just because you went to the trouble messaging us, I think I'll talk to Nes and maybe we'll work out a quick review for it. Sure. That's awesome. Thanks, yeah. Regarding it lives again,
Starting point is 00:37:55 Cameron Sullivan says Larry Cohen is a fucking God. A little bit of love, huh? Trick question. Lemmy is God. Re. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Lemmy is God. Re, I like it. Spooky podcast's coverage of, oh, in regards to, I got you. I like it. Spooky's podcast coverage of dolls. Daniel Ryan says, I like this one. Unique Grimm's fairy tale feel to it. Brian J. Godsell says, thanks for sharing.
Starting point is 00:38:34 No problem. In regards to arachnophobia, Ariel Wellman says therapy. It is? This, like, arachnophobia is therapy to you, or you need therapy afterwards? I think maybe he was referring to a lot of people needed therapy after watching that movie. Yeah. At least that's what I hope he's saying. I think so.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I think that's awesome. Oh! Which reminds me of another movie that I watched. Finally, I had to at least get it out of the movie. ways so that it can make one on my list of the other. The god damn it. What is the
Starting point is 00:39:13 Marvel's movie? The Marvels? Madam Webb. Madam Webb. No! Oh, so you had a couple hours to waste. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Man,
Starting point is 00:39:27 who wrote that piece of shit? Oh, no. The dialogue was so corny. Dikes. Except when what's her name did her little ad lib jokes. Like she's got a pretty cool sense of humor. Dakota Johnson?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like her. She was like a standout in it. Did she know what movie she was in? Is that what you're trying to say? Well, I think that she had a lot of lines that were written that were awful. But then she had some lines where she threw in a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And I think that was her joke and it just ended up in the script. That would be cool. That would make sense, right? Yeah. I still can't believe Sidney was in that movie. Yeah, and you know, I'm not, I don't know that I'm on the Sydney Sweeney train. Really? Yeah, you haven't seen Immaculate yet, have you?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Actually, I did watch Immaculate. Oh, okay. I forgot to mention that one, too. No, and it was good, and she was good in it. Okay. But, like, I don't know how much differently she played it than, just playing herself. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I mean, that's that final scene, though. Did Rose watch it, would you? No. I think that final scene would have creeped her out a little bit. Yeah, it was a little much. It's like, all right, I get it. We're screaming. Well, we'll see what she can do.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I mean, I guess we can throw this in it's not in horror news, but she's going to be Barbarella. Okay, that makes sense. Directed by, help me out, Lance. Shana the Dead. Oh, these guys. Baby driver.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Edgar Wright. Edgar Wright. I like Edgar Wright. Yeah. Okay. That could be interesting. Listen, I don't hate her. I just like, even after watching Immaculate,
Starting point is 00:41:35 I was like, I mean, she was good in it, but like, was that, like a great performance? I mean, probably... I think so. Probably by her standards, it would be. But for, like, most people, it's a regular performance.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It was no, uh, it was no Tony Collette in Hereditary, was it? Right. Well, that's different. Tony, Tony should have won. She should have won. She should at least got nominated at least that year. Yeah. I think that was a robbery.
Starting point is 00:42:03 She wasn't even considered. If we're talking about Oscars for Sidney-Sweeney at all, the whole goddamn system, his rigged. Gotcha. Yeah, I hear you. I don't even think immacula would even be considered for, what,
Starting point is 00:42:22 anything for the Oscars? Probably not. That's a tough call. They shit on horror. Yeah, they're not big fans of horror or comedy, which are my two favorite genres. I know. And so they're not probably going to like
Starting point is 00:42:38 hanky-panky, because that's going to give us a big horror. comedy it sounds like. Anyway, the ericropia thing reminded me of it, so we'll move on. We will enjoy watching Hanky-Thanky-thew, though. In regards to
Starting point is 00:42:54 Abigail, Ariel Wellman says there's a ready or not Easter egg in it that confirms it's in the same universe. Yes, I've seen that. Really? What is it? I actually, I could have brought it up in the cool of the week. I showed my daughter Abigail. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:43:11 And she enjoyed it. Yeah, it was a pretty good movie. Yeah. Kevin Duran was like her favorite character. There's a vampire on my ass. I love that. But the Easter egg is, you remember the painting, the big painting that was on the wall at the mansion and Ready or Not? Fagely, vaguely.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Well, you go, yeah. That painting is on the wall. in I don't know if it's a universe thing or just directors you know this is the other movie redirected
Starting point is 00:43:52 type of Easter egg type thing I mean it'd be cool in ready or not they all sort of exploded when the sun came up didn't they I think radio silence just likes people exploding but I would love
Starting point is 00:44:09 for Melissa Barrera and Samara weaving the team up. Well, yeah, for sure. That would be the match made in heaven right there. Yeah, no kidding. Except depending on when they did it, you couldn't bring the same actress back as Abigail because she'd probably be older.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh, yeah, yes. And I thought she was great. She was. She was fantastic. For a child actor, dude, she killed it. Yeah, and I've seen an interview with her. She's very, she's a kid. like when she's doing the interview.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So that Jet just says more about her acting ability that she kind of turned it on and played this not a kid but a 200-year-old vampire. Yeah, and she like handed it up just the right amount. Yes. I'd love to see an Abigail versus Mithrigan. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Can the AI kill the vampires too? after it finishes off the rest of the people. First things first. In regards to Freddy's Dead, the Final Nightmare, Tim Davis says, I heard that Robert England wasn't actually in this movie. What? Never heard that one.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I think he's referencing a previous listener feedback that I talked about where I kind of actually commented and went back and forth with somebody that was trying to convince me that Robert England wasn't in a new nightmare. So that was an end joke then? I think so.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I got you. That makes sense. Funny to bring it up. I actually had this Freddy's dead in the background a few days ago while I was cleaning up and he's in the movie in makeup and out of makeup so I think this is an end joke
Starting point is 00:46:11 but I heard he actually wasn't that's what I heard too Tim Davis in regard to that's kind of funny in regard to Steve Carlton's new T-shirt designs Tim Davis says this is
Starting point is 00:46:27 fucking sick and it is yeah and Steve is the man when he comes on next week we'll have a unvailing of a new design. Oh, awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah, I already got a chance to see it, and it's pretty fucking awesome. Man. Sweet. Man, we are going prestige worldwide around here, Philip. I know. We're going to have to cut Steve in. Yeah, boats and hose. I know.
Starting point is 00:47:00 We should make a boats and hose t-shirt. Oh, shit. If you guys are on camera, Who's staring the boat? Good question. Good question. Let's see. In regards to fan-created
Starting point is 00:47:19 Jaws posters in the Facebook group, Christina Bainbridge says there's so much to see on this poster. Look carefully at the people. Pippet the dog. Harry and the bad hat. Alex Kittner, Kintner on his yellow Lilo, etc.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Wow Cool I love those I love those posters man Yeah definitely check that out We'll get some artists Yeah that's what we need Well we got Steve
Starting point is 00:47:51 He can do it all Yeah I post new Fan made posters every Sunday All right We'll set our alarms for that man Okay Not too early though
Starting point is 00:48:03 Not too early Hey there's Time zone differences. Nobody really knows what time zone Alaska's in, so. I'm in the past. You guys are futuristic to me. In regards to Hellraiser 3, Larry Sheets says, loved all those movies. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Sean Holland says, for me, it was one of the best in the series, certainly as good as the first. Strong words. Forink Gergley says when you go to a metal concert as a rookie, afraid of hardcore fans, but later realize they're actually nice guys. Okay, that's, I can see that. Yeah. That guy, Ferrinck Gergergelli. Like, he's definitely been to metal concerts.
Starting point is 00:49:01 That sounds very Norwegian. Yeah, probably with Lars from Denmark, right? I know. What do they have out there, Norway? Black Metal Oh, that's right. Black Death Metal or whatever. Yeah, there's some Norwegian death stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:16 It's pretty good. Kirstie Marie Hunt says, I'll defend this film to the grave, one of my all-time faves. A lot of love for Hell Raise Your Tree. Okay. Josh Allen says, Ah, CD head.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Gone but not forgotten. He was throwing the CDs at people. That was great. Like he'd eject him out of his little CD player. Yes. That was great. Dan Michael Trojan says
Starting point is 00:49:51 this is my absolute favorite Hellraiser movie. Wow. Nice. Chris Shadows says this movie killed me by not showing how Joey got turned into a centibite or even how she died. If you blink, you'll miss her
Starting point is 00:50:09 as a centivite. The church seems pretty awesome though. Chris Shadows in relation to the Ah, fuck, I forgot where I was going on with that. I don't know. You lost this. There's a band. Somebody named Shadow. All right, Chris. Right in. I can't remember the name of the band. He left us on a cliffhanger.
Starting point is 00:50:31 A Benj sevenfold. Yeah, be sure to write in, Chris. I think his name is Mike Shadows. Anyway. I'm probably wrong about that, too. Tim Davis says after the fourth one at all went downhill with straight to video affairs after that so bad that Bradley didn't want to be associated with pinhead anymore so they got someone else in has anyone seen the remake in 2022 yeah I think we we reviewed it I think we all enjoyed it prizingly good yeah it gets bad yeah it gets bad after four and it was like they kept
Starting point is 00:51:10 redoing the same story and I felt like it was always a detective detective that did something wrong and he doesn't know it until the end I'm just like this was like the next five hellraisers that's why I was surprised that people didn't like the remake because I was like
Starting point is 00:51:30 have you seen the previous ones yeah that's true uh Pete Mayberry says the first four centibytes and the hellraiser were scary I don't know what's happened to them since. They look silly to be honest, and are about as scary as a damn paperclip.
Starting point is 00:51:49 They need to let Clive Parker come up with new Cinebites and not the silly-ass Holly Weird writers. One of the Cinebites is that little Windows paperclip guy that used to be down there. We would ask you how to use Microsoft Word. That's right. I remember that guy. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:52:13 All right. In regards to a photo behind the scenes for Nightmare on Elm Street, too, Madeline Dispenser says that's Mark Shostrom. Shostrom grew up in Hong Kong in the 70s. He became interested in makeup after seeing the bride of Frankenstein in 1935. Shostrom was encouraged to pursue makeup as a 13-year-old boy after befriending Evelyn Carloff, widow of Boris Karloff, the actor who were portrayed. the original Frankenstein's Monster.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He's the winner of three Emmy Awards out of four nominations and has been nominated for four Saturn Awards by the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films. Shostrom designed and created special makeup effects for numerous cult horror films in the 80s and 90s. In particular, the film series and sequels of A Nightmare on Elm Street, Fantasm, and Evil Dead. too. He also
Starting point is 00:53:16 contributed special makeup effects to the music video for pet cemeteries. For pet cemeteries, the Ramones, and 9-inch nails. Nice. True legend, man. Wow. See, this is why, Brian, this is why you want to
Starting point is 00:53:31 me to gather more feedback. Yeah. Okay. High quality feedback we're getting. This is awesome. And say what you well about, I know Nightmare on Elm Street, too, is like the odd one. out because it's kind of a possession movie. Right. But
Starting point is 00:53:47 the special effects are pretty fucking good in that movie. That's true. True. All right. In regards to Friday the 13th, the final chapter, Don Lowry says, I just watched a bunch of behind the scenes footage. There's some deleted scenes, an alternate
Starting point is 00:54:05 ending, and some neat stuff. In my opinion, Ted White, rest in peace, was the most realistic and intimidating dating actors to play as Jason. Of the four where it was supposed to end before it got ridiculous, but he didn't want to be credited for his role in the film as he didn't like how the actors were treated.
Starting point is 00:54:32 The other thing I really liked is they brought back Tom Svini, who is great. He created the original Jason and character in the first film. He got to kill him in the fourth, but his effects kills and everything is so amazing, as always. Yeah. Tom Savini. Yeah, dude. Can't go wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's a legend. Yeah. In regards to hereditary. Stephanie Bagley says, absolute belter of a film. I thought at first it might be a bargain basement material, but wow, what a film. Definitely rewatch. Oh, yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And I did this week. It's dead-lose thing. I picked up on so many little things, too, details that I miss. There's so much fucking misdirection in that movie, which is great. Probably going to go down to Oster's masterpiece unless he gives us something really good on the next one. Yeah. He's doing a Western.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Oh. Really? Yeah. Huh. Well, okay. Could be good. It's probably going to be a fucked up Western. I would imagine, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I would think so. Somebody has some kind of problem. Hopefully not as fucked up as the book. I just finished reading Blood Meridian. You guys ever heard of that? Uh-uh. It's so dark and violent that it's like unfilmable Western. So I'm sure that's what it was really like back then, but it's just brutal.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It kind of leaves you with that empty feeling in your heart. After you read it, but Cormac, McCarthy, I'm done with him. I've read that and I've read the road and that's enough. That's enough darkness for me. Yeah, for as much as everybody's mad at each other all the time, we definitely live in the easiest times there has ever been in humanity. Go watch Hanky Panky. Yes! Yes!
Starting point is 00:56:39 In regards to the upcoming five nights at Freddy's 2, Isabel Shields says, wahoo, I can't wait, I love the first movie, and cannot wait for all the others. That's what I was saying. I was surprised it took him so long to get the second one out. Yeah, and I don't know. I'm thinking about it, Phil, that this was almost two years before the... Yep. That's what I'm saying. Your whole audience is kids, man. Let's go. They're not going to be too old. Unless they're going darker this time.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah, I know. I've speculated on that before. Let it grow up a little bit. with the fan base. Sure, sure. Yeah, kind of what's that movie? Harry Potter, Harry Potter the franchise.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah. Gradually let him get darker. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah. I'd be willing to watch that. All right. In regards to Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Terrence McNeil,
Starting point is 00:57:38 says one of my mother's favorites. It will be the 50th anniversary on August 8th. 2004. Great movie. 50 years. That's a long time. In regards to the witch,
Starting point is 00:57:55 Susan Moyle Farcaharson. Sure. Sure. It says, so incredibly well-researched. Very eerie score. Great actors. One of my favorites. It is a fantastic movie. A lot of people don't get that one.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I think it's the way they talk. I think it kind of just confused a lot of people, but it was very accurate for the time. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's hard to figure out really what we're talking about until you're a good 45 minutes into the movie. And then it, and then it doesn't affect you as much. Then it makes sense. Yeah, I could see that.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, it just takes a little getting used to. in regard to 28 years later Liam Tyndall says Surely all the infective would have died off by now though That's kind of what I was thinking too Well but if they're actually zombies then they don't die But I was thinking that the other day while I was watching Because like I said my wife is stuck on the Walking Dead stuff right
Starting point is 00:59:07 Oh geez yep And I actually finished the seasons it's not bad I don't know if I'm going to watch all the little spin-offs, but whatever. But, like, everything is falling apart on them. Why do they still have teeth? Like, those could have brought it away, and then they could be, like, not really dangerous. Technically, in the 28 years, days, months, or whatever, you want to call the franchise, they're not zombies, they're disinfected.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Right. Or are they? Was that question ever really answered? Yeah, because remember, didn't somebody have a drop of blood land in their eye and it turned him into a raving lunatic or something? Well, right, but like, do they just die of old age? I mean, the time they die is when they get shot. I guess we're going to find out. I know I said I was doing that spreadsheet, but have we reviewed any of the movies in the franchise? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I don't think so. No, and I haven't watched 28 days later in a long time. Yeah. And I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed the sequel, too, with Hawkeye. Yeah. And a young Imogen Putes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Great actress, weird name. Free Black Christmas, thank God. Yeah. Not all of her movies are right. All right. All right. And in regards to I Know What You Did Last Summer Remake.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Here we go. Aaron J. Martin says It better not be like the series that came out a couple years ago. I'm still not sure what the hell that was supposed to be. If you're going to redo it, redo it right. I could care less about color. Just hire a good cast.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Write a good story. Make the cinematography as atmospheric as the original. Get a good musical composer. Do not use any pop songs in the soundtrack. Pop and Horror. don't mix. Unless it's old pop.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Okay. You could do that. Or if it's used ironically, maybe? Yeah. In regards to long legs, Bradley Francis says way too much hype. Always a letdown
Starting point is 01:01:32 with this much anticipation. That being said, I'm excited and we'll be watching it. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. All right. And that's it for our double dose of feedback. Our intro and logos come from our buddy Steve Carlton from the geeks. Be on the lookout for some more great stuff from Steve, including a new episode coming up. Our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani. So check her out on Instagram. And if you'd like to help us out, please become a Patreon patron. Let's pick the movie. movies that for a future show any amount and for five dollars or more a month also pick a commentary for a future for a future bonus show and for a limited time only if you join at the
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Starting point is 01:02:58 We'll move on to featured attractions. This week we check out, oh, that's not the right one. We're going to do Kidnapped from 2010, a Spanish language movie. And The Strangers, Chapter 1 from 2024. We'll start with kidnap. What do you want? Don't go back to get the maximum of every targetta. No, no negotiation.
Starting point is 01:03:31 They're alive because it does it fast. Me da equal, your life. I mean, I love the things fast. To you? Three hooded Eastern European criminals burst into a Madrid-Gated. holding a family hostage Eastern European
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, they were like Albanian or some shit, right? It's like hostile territory. Oh, yeah. Oh, the bad guys always have to be from the eastern part of Europe, right? That's it, man. They're either Russians or Nazis. Or Nazis? So three-hooded Eastern European criminals burst into a home in Madrid-gated
Starting point is 01:04:13 community holding the family hostage in its own home and forcing the father to empty his credit cards uh director is Miguel Angel uh Anhal Vivas also I was about to ask you is a different pronunciation and hell yeah Miguel Anhevivas also known for extinction uh writers is Miguel and Hal Vivas with Javier Garcia Ardeño, Ardondo, sorry. Orrando.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Antonio Vandes. Oh no, wrong that. And the third week in a row for a film which did not have trivia. But that's because it's from Spain. All right, Lance, you want to get us started on Kidnapped?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Man, I'm really, really, really, really, really. enjoyed this movie and I like the way they built it up it was slow burn you didn't know what was going to happen it was it was absolutely you know an exercise in anticipation
Starting point is 01:05:19 because like you'd have a scene where someone would come into the house and then you'd see the bad guy like grab a knife but then set it down and you're like oh is he gonna is he gonna you know and then there's certain things yep they did it's like it started out really really slow
Starting point is 01:05:35 like I thought okay well it's probably not going to be like super brutal or bloody and it's just going to be more of a psychological thing but man when they turned it up to 11 and they decided to just kind of fucking go for it they fucking went
Starting point is 01:05:51 for it and I was like okay certain things I know are going to happen and they did it's like just really really well done movie just had me on the edge of my seat the whole way it just seemed like it went by really
Starting point is 01:06:07 really quickly. So I think it was like about an hour and a half, but it felt like maybe a 45-minute movie or something like part of a part of an anthology or something. It just went by that fast for me and never really, you know, never let up,
Starting point is 01:06:23 never slowed down. You had certain characters come in. They weren't there just to be extras and to be silly. Like there was a real good reason that people who stumbled in stumbled in and they would give you the backstory. And yeah, it's just a great great payoffs, super, super dark ending, you know, kind of like
Starting point is 01:06:41 like Lake Placid, and I loved it. Enjoyed this movie a lot. I really wish I'd seen the other one too, but I'm definitely glad I checked this one out. This was one I hadn't seen before, so probably one I'll check out again in the future, and it is on shutter now, Tim, I don't know if it's on Australian shutter, because I know you guys get fuffed a lot, but it's definitely on U.S. shutter and I would give this one a watch. This is a good, quick watch. Lots of action, great character development, and all the violence that you're going to want like in the last, you know, act of the
Starting point is 01:07:19 movie. So, enjoyed it quite a bit. All right. Brian, what do you think? What a fun, lighthearted movie. Kind of like Anki Pankey, right? Yeah. No, but seriously. You get a nice warm feeling. Yeah. I'm glad the rope at Jim Crass. to go take it. It was a nice sunny day when I watched it. I went for a walk, just enjoying life. It's got all the good feelings after watching this. No, but I agree with you, Lance. It was, it started out slow, and then once the intruders broke in, it just, it didn't let up after that. And it just got worse and worse for this family. I really felt for the daughter. Oh, yeah. because it just kind of ups and downs because, you know, at first you thought,
Starting point is 01:08:14 real quick, they did a good job with the intruders and they were all mass, but you all knew one guy was the leader. He was the smart one that clearly he's done this before. One was the young guy that clearly didn't want to be there. Which I have questions about. Always have to have that. Yeah, did he get away at the end or not? I think he did, right?
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah. Okay, so spoilers. I didn't mean to take it away. I'm sorry, Brian. No, no, we can do spoilers. Yeah, let's do spoilers now. And I mean, because it is an older movie, but I imagine a lot of people haven't seen it. And I really do want everybody to go watch it.
Starting point is 01:08:59 But yeah, spoiler alert, we're going to deep dive into some of this stuff here for a minute. I think he did. Did he get away? wasn't that him at the beginning tied up and running away with the bag on his head was that him i don't know that was my other question is who was that guy i because i wasn't paying enough attention i thought it was a different family it could have been a different guy yeah i thought that was like a different family to kind of show you what their modus operandi was going to be and then you went into focus on this you know family that we
Starting point is 01:09:39 followed through it. That's the way I, that was my takeaway. That's sort of what I got to. Maybe I just created a different movie watching that scene in my head. I mean, in my work, I could see you that working. Yeah, it would make more sense if that was somebody from the movie and I think it would be a better ending to sort of bring the circle back around
Starting point is 01:09:57 and tie it up. But yeah, no, I think I think he did get away. Yeah. Because everybody in this family is fucking stupid. Yes. I kind of don't as much blame the daughter because she's still a kid that doesn't know shit. But I 100% blame the parents. They kind of reminded me of Speak No Evil.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Oh, yeah, the one that's being remade. I'm like, you need to have a fight or flight reflex. These people had neither. Yeah. Stand there with their mouth that gave reflex, right? Well, but in Speak No Evil, though, it was like, I mean, at least in the beginning of it, it was, it was things that were like, okay, you've crossed the line, but I still want to be polite about it. Yeah. Okay. That went up to.
Starting point is 01:11:01 It's obviously going down. Let's figure it out. Yeah. True. True. And it just, I don't know. This is another movie where, where. people angered me because like I said no fighter fly reflexes because when they come
Starting point is 01:11:14 when we get introduced to the intruders they just straight bust in through the bedroom window yeah and my reaction would neither be to go at them or to go the other way not to stand there and just like it just get punched in the face yes that was that was that was that was my criticism if you're gonna I well I was gonna get into it mine but what I I like talking with you. And then... If you're gonna fucking fight, dude, that's the time to fight right at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:11:49 That's the time to go all out and fight back at all costs. If you don't do it there, dude, you've lost your opportunity. Yeah. And you know when not the time to fight is? When you're fucking tied up with your family. Right. Now you're already fucked. now it's time to listen
Starting point is 01:12:11 and do what they say yeah but yeah there was it just it just went on and on with the or not on and on like it was born but with the violence it just kept escalating escalating and they did a super cool thing
Starting point is 01:12:30 with the split screen to show you what was happening two perspectives at what was happening at the same exact time And I love the second split screen they did when the father came back to the house and then it just transitioned it to the same screen. I thought that was super cool. Yeah, that was very awesome. And it wasn't even like technically well done.
Starting point is 01:12:52 It was just a great fucking idea. Yeah. And like I said, it just got fucking bad for the daughter. I felt so bad for her because there was a scene that I've seen this movie before. and there was a scene coming up that I was not looking forward to seeing again. Yeah. Yeah. When the tough guy, loose cannon intruder, takes her into the bedroom and you already know what's happening.
Starting point is 01:13:23 See, that's where the parents, like, dude, good luck tying me up if some shit like that is going down. I'm going to tell that. Yeah, you're going to have to shoot me. Yeah, that's just going to have to be the end game here, you know? I mean, and just little shit, like, you got to be on your feet, on your toes. You got to, like, the mover is clearly watching you put shit in your safe. He's just standing there. And you're just like, what do you need?
Starting point is 01:14:02 Like, what do you mean? What do you need? Stupid, yeah. I tell that to my fucking baseball players, man. I'm like, listen, if you, I mean, you know, they're kids, so they haven't figured it out yet. But if you open your fucking eyes and pay attention to the world around you, life gets a whole lot easier. And then with the daughter, I totally forgot her fate because you think the guy just kind of leaves after killing everybody. and then his his hand disappears from off screen and just stabs her 15 times in the stomach
Starting point is 01:14:41 and it's brutal brutal yeah well that was one of the scenes where uh like dad like he finally decided okay this is it i'm gonna ram my car into this fucking tree and thank god you know kill this motherfucker and then go figure out my family because he realized, okay, well, they're not going to let me out alive. Right? Yeah, no doubt. Good decision. Let's fight back.
Starting point is 01:15:10 That was a great way to do it. Took that guy out, especially since the other guys weren't answering their phone. And then he takes his gun and leaves him in the car. Does it fucking double tap him, man. Dude, you've got to make sure he's dead. There's so many opportunities in this movie of like, oh, the bad guy's down and temporarily incapacitated. Do I run five more steps or bash him the fuck over the head with something so he doesn't get back up?
Starting point is 01:15:40 Infuriating, isn't it? It is very inferiority because how you get killed with a sledgehammer when you got a gun in your hand. Yes. Yeah, great point. And then the wife comes up and picks the gun up and then she fucking shoots and misses and he's like five feet away. And then she, like, keeps clicking the trigger. And for some reason, the hammer keeps clicking, which doesn't make any... None of that shit makes any sense.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That's not how guns work, A. And then he clears a couple rounds and pops her a hole through the head, which was kind of an awesome scene. But it's like, not only should you have fucking not hesitated to kill that guy, you should have killed that young dude who seemed like the good guy of the group. The fuck he's a good guy. I would have fucking killed him all, man. You should have killed him immediately. Yeah, I never said he was a good guy.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I just said he didn't want to be there. Well, yeah, I know. But, like, he was the sympathetic guy. You're like, oh, man, don't kill him. And I'm like, in that situation, that's the other person is dead. He was sympathetic up until they saw what their faces look like. Right. And then he was kind of like, oh, shit, I'm in this now.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah, what a fucking. dick, man. I can kill them all. But yeah, aside, oh, I'm sorry, you go ahead and finish your... Oh, go ahead. I don't mean it. Okay. Aside from those few gripes of the stupid people moment, which really wasn't even a stupid people.
Starting point is 01:17:18 It was just the movie was so realistic. Then I'm like, man, what would I do in that situation? Which are always great moments. Well, I think we all agree when they bust through the window. We're kind of rushing them. Yeah. Or not standing there and staring at him. Hey man, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:17:35 With your hands down, because he just straight knocks him out with one punch. Yeah. Unbelievable. I'm running the other way to get my weapons. And then that motherfucker's going down. But it was a really entertaining movie. It sucked me in and kept me there. My wife was walking around doing shit.
Starting point is 01:17:59 and then she would like stop and get sucked in by it also, which lets me know I'm watching a pretty decent movie. Plus it was in Spanish, and I think she just likes to practice. Yeah, it's kind of cool that it was actually in a language that I was able to watch a lot of it without having to bother with the subtitles, which always helps.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Yeah, it's fun to like kind of to watch it and then know, oh, I get that. That's what they were saying. I still need subtitles there. Yeah, like they said putta. They said putta a lot. Oh, yeah. I've heard that word before.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I bet you're. But yeah, it was a pretty fantastic movie, man. I was I was impressed by this one. I'm glad you had to pair it with this one. Yeah, it's a good one. All right. Any other spoilers when we talk about before we do scores? No, it's a pretty much.
Starting point is 01:18:59 short movie it's like what an hour and 20 is it yeah it feels like less than that yeah it moves really quick once it yeah it does man that movie goes it's a great movie yeah because basically you just get introduced to the family moving and once the
Starting point is 01:19:19 intruders break in it just kind of goes from there and there's actually a whole lot more information that I want given this situation you know what I mean like they could have stood to add another 30 minutes to this thing and give us some backstory or something. All right. Lance scores. Seven and a half. Seven and a half.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Hey, that's pretty good for you. Yeah, real good. Real good. Brian? I'm going to go a little higher. I'm going to go eight. Damn. There's not too much that I didn't like about this movie.
Starting point is 01:19:55 What I didn't like wasn't because of the movie is just the character. Yes, totally good. And not the acting or anything. It's just the decisions the character's made. I just was like, the fuck are you doing? It's the speak no evil vibe, right? It gets you yelling at the screen for sure. And that's part of it.
Starting point is 01:20:15 That's part of it. Not that I'm thinking about it. When they bust in the windows, I don't even think they had weapons in their hands. I don't think they did either. I wasn't entirely sure any of them even had a gun at first. I was like, is this in the country where they don't allow guns? They didn't pull the guns out until, like, there was like a hour,
Starting point is 01:20:33 half an hour left in the movie. They had the element of surprise. That was not a Spanish accent. Never mind. All right. I'm going to go. Yeah, I think AIDS fair. I almost want to give it an eight.
Starting point is 01:20:52 I'm going to give it an eight and a quarter. How about that? Damn. Yeah, dude, I had a lot of fun with this one. It was, It really sucked me in, and despite the fact that I was yelling at this guy for tactical moves, Yes. It was, it at least held my attention and made me involved.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I was involved enough to give a shit, which is nice. Mm-hmm. All right. So I think we all recommend kidnapped. On Amazon, man, go check it out, on Shudder. And we'll go to The Strangers. Chapter 1 from 2024. Do you know what today is? Today is the third day of our three-day road trip across the country.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Or our five-year anniversary. What a cool little town. I actually like this so much better than I'm a hotel. I'll bet the people who live here are really happy. Tough crowd, right? Hi. Hi. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 01:22:04 Hear what? The silence. It's nice. Is Tamara here? No. I think you have the wrong home. That was weird. After their car breaks down in an eerie small town,
Starting point is 01:22:44 a young couple is forced to spend the night in a remote cabin. Panic ensues as they are terrorized by three mass strangers who strike with no mercy and seemingly no motive. Director, well, we know their motive. It's a stranger's movie. Because they were home. Yeah. Director is Rennie Harlan, also known for Cliffhanger and Deep Blue Sea.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Cliffhanger, man. Fucking Slice Stallone. Hey, yo. You know they're doing a sequel to that? Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was Stallone. Stallone's in it? All right.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I like Stallone. He's one of the few old guys I'd still watch in a movie, man. I think he's actually a legitimate, legitimately decent actor. Have you seen, I can't think of the name of the series, it's on Paramount, where he's like the old mob guy? No. I still haven't watched it. It is on my list of things to do. Fucking amazing. Yeah, I love Stallone. Anyway, writers are Brian Bertino, Alan Cohen, and Alan Friedland.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Rennie Harlan simultaneously filmed all three films of this trilogy. Oh, okay, well, there it is. The producer explained that the lead star would film scenes for the first film in the morning and scenes for the second in the afternoon, commuting to many different locations for filming several times a day. That seems inefficient. What are you going to do? All right, Lance, you said you hadn't watched this one, correct? No, but we may have a special guest on who has seen it. Oh, yeah, good call.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Well, Brian, you want to start us out? Nes, be with us? Put me in, coach. Oh, my bad, I didn't know you're here yet. Yeah, go ahead. Here we go. Nez, you're up. Not Kevin Durand.
Starting point is 01:24:47 You hear the echo in the bathroom. Yeah, that's great. What are we doing? You're going to hear, folks. Des is taking a shit. Okay. I had to run over here, so hold on. Dang.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Um. 28 days later. I liked it when it was called the string juice. There we go. That's where that first one came out. Seriously. I didn't know any of the actors in it, except for the Richard Great
Starting point is 01:25:24 that was just sitting there. Yeah. And the little diner. Oh, sorry, one. Buffing and puffing. Did you make three? No, I mean, is, are they going to stretch this story, two more movies? Is that what we're doing?
Starting point is 01:25:48 Yeah, they already filmed all three. Yeah, I was listening to Talk is Jericho, and Penny Harlan was on that. He was talking about it. They wanted to do something new, with the strangers, franchise, and I was like, well, this isn't a good start, because you did. what we already seen. So I was kind of a really, I mean, I like the second one. There's a prayer at night that took us out of the house and into the trailer park and then running all over the quits. Plus the 80s soundtrack was amazing in that one. But this one, you knew what was coming around every corner. You knew how it was going to end. It ended it pretty much exactly.
Starting point is 01:26:39 like the very first film and I wasn't even that excited for the little mid-credit thing and I was like but everybody acting me I thought they did a good job a couple of I don't know the names
Starting point is 01:26:56 they were cool the three strangers I didn't really care for the main guy that's his mask I loved how the mask looked in the first one but this one I don't know I wasn't really impressed super whole film.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Plus, I was glad it was only hour and a half. It wasn't very long. So the next thing to be an hour and a half. Yeah, I don't know. I was kind of let down with this one. Well, there you have it. Brian, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:27:34 Yeah, I'm kind of right there with Nez, but I also expected this because, you know, doing the news for the show. posting stuff on social media I kind of knew that this first movie was going to be essentially a remake
Starting point is 01:27:51 of the original movie and the next two were going to be new story so I somewhat came into knowing what to expect but you could have did some things differently it was almost the same movie and little things they
Starting point is 01:28:13 like shot for shot yeah I mean they added some a couple little little things here and there and I was like that's cool but it's just not enough and for a movie that I believe I just looked and I didn't even know this movie was rated R
Starting point is 01:28:29 until I just checked because I thought this movie was PG-13 because they played it very safe I didn't see anything that would have forced an R rating do you? No that's why I had to double check just so I can bring it up on the show
Starting point is 01:28:50 and when it said rated R I was just like kind of wracking my brain like what was rated R? That's weird. But I am in any kind of language. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I am intrigued with the whole aspect of the town because I think that's going to play a little bit more into the other two movies and you don't cast Richard Brick to sit in a diner for like
Starting point is 01:29:23 30 seconds. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I guess if he plays a bigger part and maybe they're trying to do like a Texas Chansaw Mask or two. Like a family? Yeah. I kind of was thinking maybe
Starting point is 01:29:39 this is connected to the original movies and this is like a cult of killers. Oh, maybe. Like, there's multiple baghead mask guys and pin-up girls and what the other, what is the doll face? And they just take turns? Yeah. I'll be happy if they make Richard Brake into, like, Dennis Hopper and Texas chainsaw, too.
Starting point is 01:30:06 That would be great. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wilding two chainsaws, too many chainsaws. Yes, absolutely. Spaced out of his brain on cocaine. Dude, Richard Brakewarm. at you with two chainsaws is terrifying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:21 So I, like I said, I came in kind of expecting what we got. I just kind of hoped they would have just kind of turned it up a notch, which they didn't. I'm still intrigued how the rest of the story plays out, but this was not a way to kind of pull me in. If I was just a casual movie goer, you didn't pull me in to want to watch the, other two. True. And if you are not a casual
Starting point is 01:30:56 movie viewer and you've already are familiar with the Stranger's universe, then you just re-watched a movie with different characters in it. Yeah, I would say go watch the original one and then watch the next two chapters in this series.
Starting point is 01:31:12 But then you couldn't do that either because the tone would be different. You would be expecting a certain kind of dark, gritty tone, the original one set. And this one is just kind of a more polished version. Yeah. That's what I was about the first one. The first one was the drag was there.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Yeah, there was a lot of nothing in the talking, but you knew where it was going. And then once they started, it was like you didn't know what was coming. and then the second one taking it out of the house and putting it where they were running around that whole trail park that was cool because you didn't know what was coming
Starting point is 01:31:55 and you didn't have been trying to kill you but you didn't know what was coming around the corner but this one it was pretty much just play by play of the original and so you knew what was coming you knew what was going to happen and all this
Starting point is 01:32:10 but when we get to spoilers yeah there was just a lot of it. you already seen this what are you guys doing so right i love granite hard don't get me wrong uh i don't love uh nightmare four i do shout out to lisa wilcox friend of the show i didn't like that i did like the dog on was pissing fire but after dream warriors man to me the french i just went downhill that's you were you were just mad because they named the dog jason See, I don't know to remember that. But I didn't watch what I was right, because I don't. I seriously do not remember anything past three.
Starting point is 01:32:54 But, but yeah, this one, I mean, it's a good popcorn movie. I enjoyed by popcorn. Yeah. Shout out to the, there was four other people in the theater. I saw it this morning. The people way in the back, they were nice and quiet, the people that sat in the row and framing off against the wall. was in a smaller theater,
Starting point is 01:33:16 they brought a shopping bag full of food. I mean, fuck the concessions, they just came straight in the big old paper bag. They had a big thing in a styrofoam full of nachos.
Starting point is 01:33:32 That was a guy, and the lady had a big paparita and smelled hell good through the whole movie. Oh, wow. And he pulled out the fort. and I was like, fuck, yeah, that's old school. He's still holding it down in the 40s, but
Starting point is 01:33:50 but yeah, strangers. Yeah, I kind of felt the same way. It was, it was really just kind of a shot-for-shot remake as far as I could tell. I'm not a giant strangers fan, and
Starting point is 01:34:10 it's been a while since I've seen the first one. I think we covered it on the show at some point. But it's... I mean, to me, it could have been the same fucking movie. Like, I kept thinking, is this a shot for shot remake?
Starting point is 01:34:26 Maybe I'm just remembering it wrong. But it damn near is, man. It's almost exactly the same movie. Which I get if you're trying to rebuild it and with new characters. But I don't know that you had to do it. You could have just done a... Yeah, why would he do that?
Starting point is 01:34:45 Why would an acclaimed director like Rennie Harlan bothered to do that? It's like you could have just gone to the next movie and then replaced the actors and called them the same name. That's kind of weird. Yeah, you could have just used like, what's the word, archive footage. Got other three style, huh? Yeah, you could have just used footage of the original movie, like that end scene when they get stabbed. in the the two
Starting point is 01:35:18 Mormon kids or Jehovah, I don't know what religion they are the little religious kids find them and
Starting point is 01:35:27 you could have just started this movie off from there. Yeah. This whole this whole movie could have been
Starting point is 01:35:33 a montage. Aye. Well, you guys aren't selling me on it. And there's two kids. It'll be streaming
Starting point is 01:35:45 somewhere to mine. Those two kids could one of them could have been one of the new killers in this one. Yes. Years later and they're kind of grown. What studio made this film, guys? Lionsgate.
Starting point is 01:35:58 So is that part of Paramount Plus or Peacock or any of the above? Hulu? I don't know. Okay. Scores. Ness, what do you think? I'll be in the middle of six. Damn, that's not bad.
Starting point is 01:36:25 that's not bad that's night night swim territory man oh way better than nightswing out I get out to maybe but I really watch it again
Starting point is 01:36:41 because it's on peacock and that was like wasted my money why would you do that to yourself I just had to see it one more time to my putting it on the good list or the bottom so but it's spoiler
Starting point is 01:36:57 it's going on the bottom but oh yeah good old back that's a decent score man all right so Nez gives it a six Brian what do you think
Starting point is 01:37:14 I'm right in the middle it's a five it's a generic yeah home invasion yeah paint by numbers I like I said before I'm still curious
Starting point is 01:37:30 on where the story's going. Yeah. Because there must been a reason why he just basically redid the first movie if the next two are just going to be a brand new story. So I'm curious.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I wonder if after watching the next two, my thoughts will change about this one. That's true. When did those for now? I think, the next one is in August and then the
Starting point is 01:38:04 third one is like they said early 2025 so I'm guessing like January or February. Okay. Well, I would almost bet you money that they're going to go Texas chainsaw 2 on this and the whole town is involved
Starting point is 01:38:23 obviously. That's cool. And Richard Brake is going to be the Anthony Hopkins character, you know? he's probably going to be a fucking mastermind behind the whole guy being I don't know that Richard Brake is the cult leader Oh god
Starting point is 01:38:43 I can see that Or he's the chemist He's got him all taking acid right Yeah there you go So yeah I mean That's actually some really good insight Maybe your views will change
Starting point is 01:38:57 Once the next movies come out I just feel like this one was unnecessary This Okay I mean, I guess if they're filming them at the same time and they come out with the next one, like, soon, then that probably works. But I think the reason it feels generic is because we've already seen this movie before. Yeah, I mean, the production looked pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:26 I had no problem with that. I mean, well, the two main characters are kind of CW-ish. I know what you did last summer Yeah They were But I mean It didn't It made the first one great though
Starting point is 01:39:42 It was like But well the fact that you like knew who these actors were They were like the big blockbuster actors of the time Yeah So tell the truth I'm not a big fan of the first one Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the first either
Starting point is 01:39:56 But I like the second one for I like the second one for the reasons Ness brought up How it takes it out of the house and the people are getting stocked in an entire trail apart. Sure. Well, and to be fair, that's kind of what I thought about the first one, was that it was sort of a generic home invasion movie.
Starting point is 01:40:19 So, yeah, I guess that definitely works with this one also. Yeah, I think I'm going to go five also. I mean, it was well done. It was, like, none of the acting was bad. This was just sort of a movie where I was like, why did you make this? You know? So we'll see where it goes from here.
Starting point is 01:40:39 I'm sure they have a plan. But boy, they almost they almost set that plan on fire before it started with this movie, I think. I heard it. I heard it kind of made more money than expected. Really? That's good.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Helping pay for the other two. I mean, the back line, because I didn't know this was. going to be like a remake yeah i think anybody else seeing this know it was going to be a remake i think from what i'm understanding i think some people thought it was a sequel or a prequel i mean chapter one
Starting point is 01:41:19 i thought yeah i thought it was a prequel yeah this is just something new or it's like they just re-boating the series i think so i thought this all tied into the original that's that's that's my theory that is well. Are we in the spoilers now or what? Oh yeah, spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.
Starting point is 01:41:45 This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Yeah, let's do it. All right. I don't want to. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Well, I mean, because how much can you spoil this movie? Like, our spoilers are just speculations about what the next couple of movies are going to be. You've already seen this movie. When it comes to this movie, one scene that they tried to recreate but kind of do differently is when the boyfriend accidentally
Starting point is 01:42:14 kills somebody, an innocent person. Oh yeah. It was more impactful in the original one because it was his friend that came to see that they needed help. And he accidentally shot him in the face with the shotgun. This one is the fucking guy that they called to come fix
Starting point is 01:42:30 their refrigerator. Who the fuck is coming to fix a refrigerator at that time of night? No shit. That was the first thing that popped in my head when he showed up. You had to be paying some fucking overtime rates for that shit. I'd tell you that. And like he said, I don't want to go out there. And the first one, we cared about Dennis.
Starting point is 01:42:48 He's only Dennis in my eyes. Yeah. Those of you to watch, son, but we cared about Dennis. This guy that showed up, he didn't care. He just, whoops. Sorry, girl. I don't even think we did. Did we meet him in the movie?
Starting point is 01:43:03 No. Yeah. No, the only thought I had was that like, oh, well, now they've killed an innocent person and they look like the bad guys and things are still a little weird. But like it was just a deterrent from calling the cops or something. Because the very end when they killed the kid, the man guy, it was exactly how. they did it in the first one. Had them tied up and chairs standing at them while you're doing this?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Yeah. Because you were home. This sounds like it wasn't needed. They stabbed the guy, then he falls over, and then they stab her, and she's still alive? Yeah, the line was different in this one.
Starting point is 01:43:51 They said, because you're here? Yeah. Okay. So when the way the line was delivered, it kind of made me feel like, again, with the whole town thing, like there's multiple people involved and like they bring people here
Starting point is 01:44:09 right not it was because you were home we came to your home and you were here it was because you're here to where we wanted you to be drove through and stopped at the wrong redneck gas station that's another
Starting point is 01:44:27 that's never happened before I'm stopping to get something to eat the highway that they were on, there is a million places on the side of the road. They eat. Yeah. All your franchisees. Yeah, typically.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah, they had to go off 10 miles off the main highway. Find something they eat. That was stupid. You deserved to be killed. That's your own fault. Damn, Naz. Brutal, man. Maybe they wanted some real food.
Starting point is 01:44:54 At some point, you have to plan ahead. If you're passing really good gas stations on a giant road trip, you got to stop at the really nice well-lit gas stations. Oh, you're not going to get fucking murdered. Stop it. Stop at Buckys, right? Yeah. Buckees is a great one.
Starting point is 01:45:13 To be fair, Lance, the boyfriend was kind of asking to be killed throughout the movie. Yeah. Because he was super fucking rude. Like the diner scene. Fuck that guy, then. The dynastine, the waitress, she assumed that they were married and she said, no, we've just been dating for fucking five, ten. years and then she was like how come you didn't put a ring on it what are you waiting for
Starting point is 01:45:34 and he's like i'm just waiting for my tuna melt i know yeah that was kind of a jerk move okay really quick she's making a joke asshole when they showed the garage room quick there was two trucks in the old truck then there was a ford was that the ford that they were driving around you yeah i i kind of catch that yeah i kind of felt like we've seen who the strangers were Yeah. I can't even remember who they were. I honestly, I watched this movie three days ago. I can barely remember it.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I was scanning everybody. Everyone that came in, guys at the gas station, the everybody in the diner. I was thinking it was those kids. That were talking to them at the diner. Yeah. Then he met him again. when you went to go get her food, when he went to get his inhaler.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Right. I was trying to think, well, it's not then because they wouldn't have rushed over there really fast. So I don't know. I kind of have a feeling that it's somebody we've seen. Yeah. Are they going to reveal it by the third movie?
Starting point is 01:46:47 I don't know. Or they're trying to do some misdirects on us. You know, could have been the two sitting at the table at the diner. Could have been the waitress that gave a ride to the cabin. Yeah, but I mean it was definitely They didn't get stuck there by accident
Starting point is 01:47:07 Okay, like for sure The whole town is involved Yeah, I will say A positive thing Because I thought In the previous original movie The I don't know which one it was Pinup Girl or Dollface
Starting point is 01:47:23 I felt like they were just kind of there Right Not really doing anything Right The one, I don't know if it was pen up grow a doll face, but I liked her portrayal of that character, the actress,
Starting point is 01:47:36 because you got that scene when he kind of gets to drop on her and has the shotgun to her and she puts it to her head and starts going crazy, like fucking shoot me. Yeah, right? At least that's not going to shoot them. Yeah. At least you're trying to do something different with the characters, but it only lasted that scene.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yeah, man. I was, myself and the lady that was sitting in front of me, both of us, at the same time, was like, shoot that bitch. Right. Yeah. That's when you pull the trigger. And this guy has no
Starting point is 01:48:11 fucking awareness because he doesn't shoot her and then the sackhead guy, he just comes running off screen and knocks him out. Yeah. Just like the previous movie, another one-punch knockout. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Another thing, for everyone listening to this, if you're going to pull off the side of the road sometimes, park where you or sit where you can see your car. Yeah. Because that's what I do no matter where I go. If I'm in the city is different.
Starting point is 01:48:42 But if I'm out in the middle of sticks and some diner, I make sure I can see my truck at all times. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I've seen too many horror movies. Yeah. Very, very true. Although that is a horror movie stereotype because you are much more likely to get murdered at an inner city gas station than you are at one out in the sticks. We haven't made those movies yet.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Well, we don't need to make those movies. They're real life and they're scary enough. Yeah. Watch those gas station you can. Twitter. Yeah, there's a lot going on. What's going on, huh? Plus, it's the unknown that's scary.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Yes, that's what it is. Yeah. That's the problem with this movie is we knew what was going to happen. Everything, every step of the way. It was very clear that it was a straight-up remake. Yeah, another real quick positive, there was some cool camera shots because it kind of was like some misdirects. The way the camera angles, we were like, is somebody watching them from there,
Starting point is 01:49:57 or is it just an angle of the camera looking down at them? Yeah. They did. Cool stuff like that was pretty cool. Well, and that's really my only gripe. It's not like it was a poorly made movie. It just... I don't know about you guys, but I can sense if somebody's there.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Because that room didn't look very big. Yeah. I did like that shot there. We see him up in the mirror as he's sitting there. But see, stuff like that, we knew what was going to happen. knew they were going to be in the house because when the girl was left in the house alone and she was walking around, looking out the window,
Starting point is 01:50:37 and we could clearly see someone was going to pop up in the background. She fucking walks outside to check. Yeah. After someone bangs on your door and then you go back inside and then you light up a joint. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Instead of maybe locking the rest of the doors. I mean, and then I was like you heard somebody singing to you in that house and you just don't think anything about you just walk into the other little
Starting point is 01:51:11 I was like no do things happen where like rational people think am I crazy what's going on because that seems to happen in movies quite a bit and I don't ever remember like
Starting point is 01:51:27 maybe one time after I got in a car accident I was like, maybe this is a drink. Yeah, but for the most part, if you hear a sound, it's probably somebody fucking with you, right? Right. Like, you know that that happened. It's not, well, maybe I'm crazy.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Well, I mean, in this one, in this one, you've got someone full on beating on your door asking for Tamara. Right. And after it stops, you open the door, and then you step outside and look around, like, who's there? Jesus Christ, guys.
Starting point is 01:52:03 That's not scary movie shit. That's like real home invasion tactics shit. I know. Like clockwork orange, right? Somebody is knocking on your door. Yeah, somebody is knocking on your door and distracting your attention. And then you heard some weird shit in the house. You already know what happened.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Something's going on. Yeah. Ness, what was the after credit scene, man? Doug. Girl survived. she got stabbed and then she woke up in the hospital. Oh, that was it?
Starting point is 01:52:36 Yeah. Okay. I saw that. She woke up in the hospital and then she sat up. Then we'll see the guy with a bag over his head laying there. I kind of think that was a dream. Okay. In the first of the original one,
Starting point is 01:52:53 right? When we see Liv Tyler standing there and then we see that guy, the sackhead guy, peek around. See, that was spooky and scary. That was like my favorite part in that first movie. And this one, we knew it was coming and it didn't have that effect. It didn't have the same impact. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't get the goosebumps.
Starting point is 01:53:16 I didn't feel scared. I was just, I was like, I was just staring looking in the background, waiting for someone to peek around the corner. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I mean, Randy Harlan, the way he was talking about it I was talking about it I was talking about it. I was the same
Starting point is 01:53:34 that we were going to do something different. So my fingers are crossed that the next two movies will be there. I think this one. I think this one was not. Right. Different actors. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:51 Yeah. That's about it. All right. Well, Naz, you and Brian have some reviews coming up on the show, don't you? I think so I don't know
Starting point is 01:54:01 We still got to do Wrestling returns and uh string things yeah we got to do wrestling because we got another one
Starting point is 01:54:09 coming up this weekend yeah I need to rewatch that movie I watched it and I don't even remember for the string things so
Starting point is 01:54:17 uh oh that's how that's about this movie uh uh and you watched it yesterday if they like equalized that
Starting point is 01:54:25 I think I watched that like six times before we did it we'll get back on it yeah we've got more quick reviews coming yeah we've got more quick reviews coming so just hold your horses so but I'm glad if it's that next movie's coming out in a couple months
Starting point is 01:54:45 I'm glad we don't have to wait a year to see yeah thank God for that right the next what's strangers yeah the next stranger's chapter 2 or whatever oh is it coming out in a couple months they said this fall okay the third one
Starting point is 01:55:03 I remember now the third one's coming out in January yeah that's what Rennie and Arnold said I think chapter two August and then chapter three January so this was like a limited TV series it's getting released in the theaters basically
Starting point is 01:55:19 yes pretty much that sort of changes things like Brian was saying like maybe with chapter two and three, they'll go a different route and it's going to be really good. Maybe they hit us with the familiar and are going to hit us with something different. Maybe the familiars to get the core fans in.
Starting point is 01:55:43 The juice is flowing. They'll maybe giving Rennie a little too much credit, but we'll see. This is just four players. All right. Okay, well, on that note, we want to thank you. you guys for all listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Check out the website, all the awesome social media stuff that Brian puts up. And next week, our main man, Steve Carlton, is going to join us for which two children of the corn movies, Brian? Oh, God, there's so far. I had to, I made a mistake on the schedule. So the official children of the corn movies we're going to talk about is Children of the Corn Revelation and Children of the Corn Genesis. Okay. All right. Not to be confused with Terminator Genesis. I feel like these are like Mormon horror movies. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:56:46 No. On that note, Philip, until the horror returns again. good night oh wait really quick everyone check out the fan film Wolverine the wolf we talked about that a little bit
Starting point is 01:57:08 we're going to do a quick commentary on it yeah that was badass I scrolled across it on YouTube man it looks like it's going to be cool it was pretty awesome I like what they're doing there yeah good night
Starting point is 01:57:22 The No. I'm going to be.

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