The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #419: Twisted Nightmare (1987) & In A Violent Nature (2024)

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

This week Phil, Brian and Nez talk about this and that in the THR community and the what's up and what's coming in horror news. We talk about 1987’s Twisted Nightmare and the brand new In A Violent Nature. Cool Of The Week includes Godzilla Minus One, Abigail and The Last Kumite. Trailer is Return To Silent Hill. The Podcast Spotlight shines on No More Room In Hell. And we get feedback from Al Ramseur, Russell A. Calhoun, Daniel Le Sage, Brian J. Godsil, Keith Summers, Toni Conway, Caleb Goodson, Tim Davis, Paul Wood, Corinne Jones, Tina Herrera Trevino, Anthony Blake, Jamie Mitchell, Raymond Morgan, Nathaniel Bacon, Hesena Ali and Xim Vader. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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One and all to the horror returns. I am Philip and not Lance, as you may. have noticed, but he'll be back with us next week. But with this as always is Brian, what's going on, man? What's up, man? Oh, not a whole lot. Living the dream. And Nes may

join us shortly. But I guess if you want to open it up, you can start with your cool of the week. Cool of the week. I think I have a few on me. Oh, okay, good. Well, then I'll tell you what. I'll go first because

mine's kind of boring. Okay. Well, just in the fact that everybody's already seen it. So I checked out, well, Talladega Nights. I had a rewatch of Talladega Nights just because it scrolled across my screen and I wanted to watch it, which was fantastic. My wife sat down with me. And then I checked out Godzilla minus 1 finally. It's on Netflix now.

So I liked it. It's pretty good. Yeah, there definitely wasn't a lot of monster. it, but it was more of a traditional Godzilla story, I guess, if that makes sense. Was it the best thing you've ever seen? Well, no. I mean, it's good. I just, like I said, when I talked about it, I just felt like it was overhyped.

Yeah, well, the thing is, it was like a legitimately good movie that was also a Godzilla movie. Yeah. Is really all it was. could have used some more monsters but that's what we have the american version for yeah i mean call me crazy but i was entertained more by godzilla x-cong yeah i kind of was too actually i had a lot of fun with that one i did love the uh when when godzilla first shows up in this one and he's like smaller and he's a little more like agile and kind of vicious and i like that version of Godzilla. I wish he'd have stayed

like that the whole time. I was like oh, this one's scary. All right. Put me in, coach. You win. What's up there, Nase? How you doing? We just started. Whoops.

What's happening here? There's a Jason on my screen. Thought you were showing off your collection. How do you turn this around? Was that it, Phil, for... That's all I got, man. I'm sure I'll think of something later, but it's probably not horror related. All right.

Oh, no, I did check out The Machinist. I had never seen that movie. With the Christian Bale? Yeah, where Christian Bale gets real skinny. It's a weird fucking movie, man. Yeah. I always thought it was like Oscar Bate or something because he, you know, he lost so much weight, like to the point of almost dying, I'm sure, because he was crazy skinny.

And it was just kind of a regular weird thriller movie. I had a good time with it. It was, I wouldn't call it fun, but it was a good movie. Yeah, I think I read his diet to get that way. It was a cup of coffee and an apple. That's all he'd eat. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

He was scary, skinny. Like, you could see his skull through the skin in his face. it was insane. Yeah, and then he did Batman Begins, like, right after that. Yeah. Where he jumped up, like, 100 pounds. Yeah.

You with us, Naz? Yeah, I'm here. You want to jump down for pool of the week. Oh, damn, why is one guy texts me when? Oh, I finally seen

Abigail. Oh, yeah? Last night. Man, dude, that was fucking awesome. Not a bad movie. I had to pay $20 for it. Yeah.

Oh man. I was kind of tired, but I was like, just let me, if I get tired, I'll stop it and start it in the morning. But no, man, that was hell good. It wasn't not much to the story, but I must have not been paying attention to the trailer. I just knew it was all these people in the house. I thought,

they got all these people like voluntarily to stay in this mansion all night and if you stay to the end you get a billion dollars or whatever I didn't know that they were spoiler alert you guys haven't seen it you should have seen it by now yeah I didn't know they were going to kidnap someone house on haunted hill or something

I don't even haven't seen that forever yeah I thought it was one of those type of things just stay in the house and leave that little girl alone and if you make it you make it i thought it was gonna be one of those things i didn't know there was a whole uh a subplot to it and everything so but for what it was man it was awesome and all the i hate cg i blood but i thought they did it they did it good because when the the vampires were blowing up it wasn't i just it was like it blew up and covered the whole room so i thought that

best part. I was like, oh, man, I loved it. I watched it twice. I watched it last night and then again this morning. But yeah, I mean, I should have saw it in the theater. I know, Brian, you were telling me, yeah, go see it, go see it. And I said, I'll get to it. I get to it. By the time I got to, it was gone.

But $20 rental, I got a bonus check from work, so I've been written things for $20. I saw a mac, amaculate is on there, but that was only five bucks. I think I'll rent

that again and watch it. Yeah. Abigail, yeah, that was my cool of the week. That was awesome. I guess it's cheaper than taking your family out to the movie theater. That'll run you 100 easy. All right. Is that on that? Yeah. That's it.

All right. I'll start with my list. As usual, I'll start from the bottom. First is a little indie movie called Mary had a little lamb. you guys heard of this one no it's your typical people go

investigating a story they have like a podcast where they do like true crime and their podcast isn't doing good because they do like super old case cold case files and nobody's interested so they go investigate this new one

out somewhere in England and basically they they've not trying to give too much way they fuck around and find out when they go to this house and meet this old lady and she keeps mentioning she's got she's got a son turns out the son's not a little kid he's a grown man and he likes to wear a sheep's mask ah thus the cover photo yes slasher movie yeah slasher um i had to i had to check on i mdb because the main girl for like 30 minutes of the movie I thought was Lindsay

Lowhan. That's what I was about to ask you because the picture just popped up and I scrolled down to credits and she wasn't there. Yeah, I was like, good for her. She's back in movies and then I was like is it her? Because as the movie was gone, I was like, this kind of does it. It looks

like her, but it doesn't feel like Lindsay Lowhan. So it wasn't. Well, the more plastic surgery you get, the more people kind of look the same. Yeah. That's maybe aliens are just us from the future, right? They just end up getting so much plastic surgery and they're like gender neutral and stuff. Giant eyes.

Speaking of plastic surgery, I was watching that documentary about Lalapalooza and they were talking to Perry Farrell or Perry Farrell, whatever's name, the guy from Jane's Addiction and the guy that started it all. Man, his plastic surgery. I mean, I've never met the man. He's probably

an awesome guy. I mean, thank you. Thank you. for all the music he's giving us. But I was just like, every time I was showing him, I was like, what did he do to his face? I mean, to each his own, everyone. If you do that, I mean, cool. I mean, no judgment, but I was just like, I don't know, especially the ones that really

go for it. Like that one lady, I'm sorry, she looks terrible. That one lady that had like the most plastic surgery ever, she looked like she could have been in Escape from L.A. Madonna? Bruce Campbell. I don't know. well don i love you too but yeah what do you do it yeah uh who else comes in mind mickey rourke yeah

well his was like reconstructive though right or something that's what he says yeah i don't know how much boxing he was actually doing yeah if you need it for that yes fine yeah that makes sense but just if you have the money to do it to do it um i don't know but again i mean two each his own. Just know looking a little bit old is a lot better than looking a little bit weird. I'm just going to look old and ugly, so I don't

I don't care. Even if I had that kind of money, no, it's not me. Let's see. Next up on my, Mary had a little lamb. It's decent, little indie thing. It'll probably end up on Tooby eventually. It's one of those

type of movies. Next up is a movie Lance talked about. I think we reviewed the trailer for it called Stop Motion. Oh, yeah. How was that? I almost watched it. Pretty decent. It's a little slow burn, but all the stop motion stuff in it was like super cool and creepy.

It's more of a psychological horror. And it's in Spanish or something, right? No, English. Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I may have to check it out. Yeah.

Next up is I've seen this being hyped up on the internet as like super like extreme like once you see it you're just going to be shocked. People throwing up in the theaters.

I don't know. I don't know if it was in the theater. I know Stephen King even jumped on the bandwagon. I was like this is just talking about how disturbing it was and it's called the coffee table. Sounds very disturbing. Now I can't explain anything other than a family in the beginning of the movie

buys a coffee table from the store and brings it home. And then after that, something very disturbing happens. But once you get over, well, not get over, it's not something you can get over. But once you get past that scene, it's not really, I don't know, maybe I'm just desensitized. But it just, it wasn't a Serbian film,

as I mean, so the coffee table didn't hold up that's what I say When Like the Zisu on the East Society He doesn't do bloody movies and all that I try to get him to watch Movies that I think

All right that he can he can handle this There's a little blur but not enough I mean I mean he couldn't handle The main movie we're talking about tonight but I just like because he was telling me he goes yeah watch this watch this it's it's got a lot of gore and blood and this and that then I'll watch what he's talking about and I'm like where was this blood and gore you were talking about I'm like it's not I said you know what I

like and I mean he he directs me a lot of ways here watch this watch this and I'm like yeah okay it was all right but yeah exploding vampires, man. We need blood all over the room. I don't think he'd be able to handle that. So I'm like, yeah, man, I mean, just, I don't know. Yeah, I guess we're just desensitized to everything. I mean, the stuff we've seen is nuts.

And, I mean, there's some movies that just like, ooh, I don't know if I could watch that again. But it's not because of the blood and the guts. it could be because of the subject matter on what they're doing. Like that, um, was that movie. It wasn't, they didn't really show anything, but the thought of it all in your head. Cry Freedom and,

uh, it was that Nazi movie that came out last year. Um, zone of interest. They don't show you any, they don't show you anything. You just, you,

hear it. So, I mean, you hear what's going on in Auschwitz. You hear what's on the other side of that wall. And there'll be, like, they'll be showing you a bed of flowers, but you hear the gunshots and the screaming and the crying over the wall. I mean, just that in your head, like, ooh, you can, you can picture what, what's going on over there. But, I mean, I liked how they did it and everything, but I don't think I could sit through that movie again. That was a little much. But, yeah, we're desensitized by everything. I've still never seen a Serbian film.

Like, I scroll across it the other day. It was like, eh, man. It sticks with you. Yeah, it's like, I don't know this. I own it. I have two copies of it, actually. I have the one that's, I get, it says unrated, but it's not.

It's cut up. Same thing. But then I got that, um, the last one that came out that one with the slip case yeah that's unrated and uh

that there's one part I'll skip over I mean I know it's I know it's fake a lot of parts I'll skip over I know it's fake but I'll like that one I'm like nah I mean I know it's bad enough the first I mean I already saw it once

and I don't think I can sit through that part again so I'll like I'll fast forward a couple of minutes until it's over. The rest of it, yeah, I can deal with, even the ending, which is brutal. But that one scene, for those of you that have seen it, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I can't watch that part again. Yeah, I guess I'll have to watch. The coffee table, though, like, if you can get past the initial thing that happens to set up the rest of the movie, you'll be fine.

And it's listed as a horror comedy. I don't, it's Spanish film. I don't know what they consider comedy, but I didn't find nothing funny about the movie. It's a good movie. It's just not as disturbing as if you hear about it made to be out. So. What's that on? It's out there.

They have a strange definition on what horror comedy is. I think I was scrolling through something on one of the streaming services and it said horror comedy. And I was like, I don't know how much comedy. any of these are yeah i think if you go on i mdb it's list of comedies listed first and i'm just thinking back now i didn't maybe i just didn't not my type of humor but now i'm thinking about it there was like nothing funny about it the coffee table scene was supposed to be funny you don't get it it says dark comedy comedy drama horror is it like horror horror or just horrific thing in it. A horrific thing happens.

Okay. And then it's like a psychological drama throughout the rest. And then I will say a horrible thing happens at the end, but it's not disturbing. So. All right. Well, it sounds interesting. Check out the coffee table. And I think it's like an hour and 20. It's under an hour and 31. It didn't feel like it felt like a less, it moved quickly for it to be kind of more of a drama. Well, this sounds good.

Jesus and Maria are a couple going through a difficult time in their relationship. Nevertheless, they have just become parents to shape their new life. They decide to buy a new coffee table, a decision that will change their existence. And yes, it did. Oh, well, if you guys want to rent it, it is three nights. 99 on Amazon. So. All right.

Well, I like it. Brian, you know what I like. I think you'll think it's fine, but you'll agree with me that initial thing. You'll probably be like, that's fucked up. No involved kids, does it?

I can't say. Kid falling and getting hurt on a coffee table? Because I know that happened to me. Oh, me too. We had to take my brother to hospital one time. Oh, no. I just banged my head a bunch of times.

Never got rid of it. It stayed there forever. Sunkers are dangerous. And my Cool the Week is a movie I donated to the, I think it was crowdfunded or GoFundMe or Indiegogo, one of those things, Kickstarter. And it's a throwback action movie called The Last Kumitae. Ah, okay. And the reason I donated it to it because not only were they making, kind of bring you back that late 80s, early 90s, martial arts action movie, but they had not big names, action stars, but if you grew up in that VHS era of renting action movies and martial arts movies, you know people like Matthias Hughes, Kurt McKinney, Billy Blanks, Cynthia Rothrock. They were all in there?

Yeah. Damn. Kumate. Kumata. It's it and also the, you won't recognize him, Michael Kese. He played Tong Po in the kickboxing movies.

He's the villain. Okay. He's also in it. So it's pretty much straightforward story. Guy gets forced to fight in an underground tournament to

save his family. It's nothing new, but I just like they took a. They took back to them the glory days of the action movies they even had i know i don't know if you guys are familiar with stan bush he did a lot of the music for like those 80s action movies okay he did the theme song they got him to do the theme song for this cool and you would think it's straight out of the 80s so i don't hate that that is my cool of the week all right i got one i got one more

Godzilla minus one is on Netflix for those of you that don't know. Yeah, that was my cool of the week. Yeah, check that out. That was elegant. Ten, all right. What do we got for news, Brian? Hold on. What did you guys give Abigail?

I gave it a nine. I gave it, I think, an eight, eight and a half, something like that. Yeah, I think Brian and I were both in the eight range, and Lance probably gave it like a four or five or something. I don't remember. super high score for him that's sort of an educated guess I don't know that that's true

oh man he might have got crazy on that episode and gave it a seven he might have I doubt it six all right we are getting a new where is it

probably should have had these notes pulled up a new Knives Out movie Okay The second one The third This would be the third one Oh then there was a TV series

Wasn't there It was a movie on Netflix Called a black glass onion Oh okay That's the second movie That one was a little disappointing to me Yeah So we'll see how they do on this one

This new one's called Wake Up dead man and knives out mystery. Okay. So far that I got listed here, Kerry Washington, Caliyspani, and Jeremy Renner have all joined

the cast. I don't know if you got seen Glass Onion, but they referred to Jeremy Renner by name, so is he in the movie as himself? Oh, I didn't think about that. Maybe.

Let's see. I don't know if there was lot of news. Demi Moore is going to be in a new movie from the director of that movie Revenge called The Substance. I saw pictures of her. I think it was for that. I don't know how old she is, but she still looks good. Let me look her up. Probably the biggest news is Exorcist Deceiver is not moving forward because they have hired Mike Flanagan to write and direct a whole new exorcist movie. What? I know.

No, we talked about a rumor that they were bringing him on, but it's official. He's writing and directing. And it has nothing to do with Believer. It's a whole new. Let him do a series, man. Leave it alone. I mean,

how many? How many is there? One, two, three, five, six Exorcist movies and a TV series? One is basically the same. movie. I know, but I mean, what more do we need? I mean, they tried with the second one

with the heretic. I didn't like that one at all. Three? Awesome. Well, I know they have to make this movie because I think it was Morgan Creek Entertainment is the one that purchased the rights for hundreds of millions of dollars. So they got to recoup what they spent on the franchise.

So. Oh, he did Dr. Sleep. That one was pretty good. Yeah. And Gerald's game. Okay. So he's getting in with the, oh, well, that's Stephen King's stuff.

This is Exorcist. I got, I got, we'll see it, but I don't know. I got faith in it. Yeah. I think Mike Flanagan paired with the Exorcist. I'm on board for that. We've done a lot of 28 years later news. It has officially started filming.

Oh man, I thought it was like going to come out soon All right, all right I got a question And the first one I guess they just started to die off Because they were running out of people to infect Then the second one Obviously they came across to more people And it kept on going

So in 28 years they couldn't Calm it down, stop it? I mean, is that what's happening? I guess. I mean, I don't know. I trust in Danny Boyle and who's the guy that's coming back to write it? Maybe they mutated. Danny Boyle's coming back to direct and Alex Garland, the guy who did Ex Machina and Annihilation, he's writing the script.

Okay. So they have something planned because. this is the first in the plan trilogy because you know we always got to get a trilogy i'll see them i mean the comic series they did for a little short run was all right but hmm i mean i'll see i'm having that question about like walking dead you know like the zombies after being around for that long i mean they stabbed knives through their heads like their paper yeah they should be falling apart by now yeah how come the teeth haven't like like falling out.

I always go to when it's not the same universe. George Romero's dead. And Dawn of the Dead, the original one. They were saying that the, no, no, no, I'm sorry. Day of the Dead.

The doctor guy that kept calling Dr. Frankenstein, he said the way they could have got a handle of it, handle of it, handle on it all, was in the beginning. That's when they should have just started killing them all. He said, so it was too late.

There was too many of them now. They outnumber us. So that's when he was saying that he doesn't think it would stop. So, I mean, I guess they could do that in the 28 days later. I mean, they did like in the second one when they like just blew up, or were they London, when they blew up that whole block and everything. Or even in the first one, when they, Killing

Murphy met the young black woman when they blew up that old gas station and everything but I don't know I mean every

every zombie movie TV series whatever comic book everyone's got their own different takes on it all like Return of the Living Dead that series

you couldn't kill them no matter what you burn them up you blow them up they created more still so I don't know I like that one

Do you guys consider the 28 days later franchise zombie movie? Because what is it a rage virus? I never thought it was a zombie movie. Yeah, because they don't, technically they don't, when they get infected, they don't die, they just change. They don't eat you. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. It does seem very zombie-ish, though.

I just, I just knew it was rage. the infection because yeah they weren't sitting there eating you i mean they bit you and or spit blood on you and that's how you got infected i like that 28 years later when they're maybe they're chewing on you yeah maybe they're chewing on you now but i liked i liked that how they just threw up blood all over you yeah i know in 28 what was it months later was that the second one days no was it weeks or I think it was weeks. 20 weeks, I think.

Yeah, that one, they found somebody that was infected, but they weren't acting. It was the mom. Yeah. Because she got bit, but never turned. So she was able to just have it. But because she was the one.

Yeah, man. It was in a long time. I just watched it. She infected the dad. The husband. Yeah, Gazzo from Full Monty. That's all I see him as. She infected him and then he went crazy and then started affecting everybody. Did he get out of control?

Did he get about putting his thumbs through her eyes? Yeah. Yeah. He killed her after she infected him. That sucks. And stars Imaging Putes. Oh. She was the star of one of Ness's favorite Christmas horror movies.

She was in that? Yeah, she was the daughter. I would say she had to be really young. Yeah, I was not been paying attention. All I remember is the mom from Insidious, that one chick. She was in it. She was one of the doctors. Hawkeye, Jeremy Renner, he was in it.

Can you imagine being a child named Imogen Putes? That's got to be a hard way to go through life. you better fucking be famous that's the only way you're making it like my buddy his name was just herbert and he he had he had to battle a lot of guys yeah and he when we're little he was a cool kid but as we got older he hit the gym everything because he was fighting constantly when somebody made fun of his name and i just called him herb so i it i mean it never occurred to me because known since I was a kid, but yeah, when somebody was saying weird things in,

mean things. Kids are mean. I don't care what anyone says. That's what I'm saying. Kids are mean. So, but yeah. Growing up with the name like Imogen Putes, you get called enrolled for class and, oh man, life is over for the day.

Okay, a couple more things. Adam Wingard will not be back to direct the next Godzilla Kong movie. Good. Oh, they're making. another one, Naz.

They already announced a six movie in the franchise. I'm not mad at it. At least they finally figured out, okay, we don't really care about the people. We just want the monsters. They should have did that in the first movie. Godzilla's only in it for like two minutes.

Yeah. Because they misjudged their audience. They thought we need to get like the biggest youngest names in Hollywood to be in our movie. And then people are like, we don't give a fuck. Give us Godzilla and Kong. Don't get Heisenberg, and he's only in it for like two minutes.

Oh, God. And you kill him off. So confused when he died within the first 20 minutes of the movie. Was that the one with Kickass? Was that his son? Yeah, Kickass and Scarlet Witch were husband and wife right after they were just... I forgot about that movie. They were husband and wife right after they were just brother and sister in The Avengers.

So that was kind of weird. When Godzilla was out of all these movies, when the monsters are on the screen, I like it. But when they're not, when you're trying to give us this story about humans that I don't care about, I don't care. Give me monsters. In the new one, we needed Rebecca Ferguson because that was her whole character, was just to explain what was going on throughout the movie. Yeah. and Dan Stevens was a nice touch. I thought his wackiness played well. I like him and everything. I mean, shout out to the guest. That was an awesome movie. The bionic arm that Kong had, I was like, ah. Yeah, that was a little. Good thing they happen to have when made. Yeah. It was just in that room back there. Yeah. And it was the right side. The arm, unless they had the other arm ready to. go.

Prototype that was ready to go. They montage through that scene so quick and I was like, you know what? Just roll with it. I did like that they showed a lot of monster stuff in the Hollow Earth or whatever. I thought that was cool, but

Have you seen Monarch? I tried. We know Godzilla. Well, they said season two is going to be heavy on Kong. Season two. All right. I like the hollow earth idea.

Yeah, I did too. I mean, it's cool. It's interesting and creative. I mean, give me a hollow earth movie featuring Kong. That's what this last one was. Yeah. I think you and me talked about it, Phil. He expressed so much in his facial expressions and... Oh, yeah.

...anorisms that you don't need... people you can just make a con movie that'd be cool i'd watch that con and some other weird giant apes this one should have just been cong hollow earth because godzilla was in it for like two seconds yeah i mean if it was just that like a con skull island that was awesome that was my favorite one out of the out of the series of movies so far but i really i don't yeah i didn't i i'm gonna king of monsters in this one i'm gonna call it now, I think since they announced Monarch season

2 is going to be heavy on Kong, the next movie is going to be heavy on Godzilla. Yeah. I was disappointed. Well, really made it disappointed. I just watched Godzilla Minus 1, and then we went to go see Silent Night right after.

Then they showed the trailer for the Kong Godzilla movie, and I was sitting there looking at it going, this looks terrible. Compared to what we just watched and now you're giving this pink Godzilla I was like no

the CGI was definitely better in Godzilla minus one I'll give him that I liked the blue Godzilla when he was shooting everything out but yeah now you turn him pink all right

it'll be uh it'll be a neon neon green in the next one yeah Might as well. Why not? All right.

We're going to leave off on something that's up Phil's Alley. A new UFO movie coming from Steven Spielberg. Okay. Has no title. No synopsis. But we're getting it May 15th, 2026. Dude, close encounters, he used like some real UFO guys, like some dudes that are still big in the business and in the know as like references to make the movie.

Jacques Valet is one of them in particular. If anybody knows who that is, big UFO guy. Steven Spielberg is doing this? Yeah. Okay. I don't know why I was thinking Stephen King, but all right. What was his last alien movie, Crystal Skull? Yeah, we prefer to forget about those.

I liked it. I like it. I mean, for what it was, it was goofy. George Lucas, of course, he had to throw in his alien things. But, yeah, I just recently watched Close Encounters. For not showing a lot until the end, I thought that was an amazing film. Yeah. And I liked it. Didn't he do War of the Worlds?

Oh, that's right. He did that one, too. That was a pretty good one. That was scary. Was that Spielberg? Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. that was that was scary well the best thing about dial of destiny indiana jones was they killed off uh shy loboos character

what yeah oh you know what i just watched something with him in it it was the uh the peanut butter falcon oh with the like autistic kid or something trying to be a wrestler yeah yeah yeah okay it's a pretty good movie. I just watched um, what was the one we was locked in the house on house arrest? Uh, disturbia. Yeah, I hadn't seen that in a while. Man, I watched that a couple months ago.

That was hell of good. Yeah. I was thinking we might have to do it for stream fiends. Yeah, definitely. Man, that was a good movie. If that kid wasn't so damn unstable, he's a pretty good actor. What happened? Did he just? He's got a lot of, issues mentally

that I guess he just now I guess he's always recognized that he's had issues but he's just now getting help for it he's been arrested like a lot yeah good for him man and get help me and anybody if you guys are dealing with some stuff

I mean yeah just please there's there's help out there for whoever I mean there's times where I need it and I had to go see someone so well yeah don't don't think that you're what they kept telling me don't think it that it's wrong or bad that you're asking for help don't don't let it think that you're not a strong person because you you're reaching out for help because yeah man i felt i felt i felt that way i was like

i just felt like i failed as a father i failed as a husband everything but then And I didn't want to go to therapy. I just, that's stupid. That's a waste of time. But going in there, it did help. It may not help everyone, but it helped me. So, but if you do need it, don't, don't let anyone talk you out of it. Go do it and see it for yourself.

Absolutely. True. I did some marriage counseling one time. It turned our shit around. And me speaking from my personal experience, if you don't like who your therapist is, a counselor, yes there is others that's not the only one I I don't all gonna be the same because I I saw one that was trying to get me to read books and I was just kind of like I thought we were here to talk about stuff

but I'm trying to get me to read a books I got me that this this this one he she just kept okay okay repeating my story over and over over. Oh, just take this. Take these pills. Take these pills. It wasn't. Oh, yeah. I didn't. That I think is not the way to go. Yeah. I mean, just

I don't want to take pills. I just quit going. You know what? This isn't out for me, so found someone else. It was way better that didn't offer me pills or anything. So, but again, everyone, I mean, to each is all. Public service, and that's

the more you know. All right. Segway to the trailer park. Trailer park. What you got for us, Brian? Just a teaser. Again, another slow week for trailers and news, but we got a teaser of the

question movie on it if it was even ever going to be made or coming out. Because when I post about Silent Hill, we get a lot of traction on it. A lot of people fan of the games. And apparently a lot of people fan of the first.

movie, not much the second movie. Oh, you know what? I don't know if I've ever seen the second one. Yeah. That's what I was about to say. I didn't even see the second one, because I didn't care for the first one. Yeah. It was too long

and drug out. I mean, yeah, like the game, depending on how much you play it. That first game was hell a scary. Hell yeah, it was. If you take yourself back to those days when those graphics were pretty awesome on the original fucking PlayStation.

See? That gets creepy as hell. I probably, the reason why I probably like the movie a little bit more than you guys, because I'd never played the games. So that was all new stuff to me. I only played the first game. I didn't play the ones after. But that first game, the first time I even heard of it,

a buddy of mine had a demo disc and had a bunch of other games on it. He was like, here, man, play this Silent Hill game. It's just like a little snippet of it, but it's spooky. I went, okay, I didn't know what it was. So that little bit, I think it was only like maybe 20 minutes worth, was scary. But then when the actual game came out, the internet was there, but there wasn't YouTube yet. So I had to find a website that had a walkthrough. Yeah.

Because there was some stuff, like puzzles that you had to do, I was like, I don't know how to play this. So I think it was Silent Hill, the first one. There was a part where you had to play a piano. I don't know how to play piano. I don't know the notes. And because they go, these are the notes you're supposed to hit. I'm like, I don't know what there was. I had to get my buddy to play the piano since he was a kid.

He went, oh, that's easy. This, this, this, this, and that. And I solved the puzzle. But, yeah, but that one was scary. I guess there's multiple different endings depending on how fast you do it. I was super slow. So I got a little crappy moth ending. I just think that's it.

But now my other buddy was like, no, man, you should do this one. This one was scarier. I didn't play it as fast as you did. Yeah, I think I played through it a couple of times to get that. But that was a scary game. It was, dude. You're like walking through this mist and some monster just pops up out of nowhere.

There's like creepy little kids and stuff. Yeah, that's what scared me the most was little creepy. kids, ghost-looking things, whatever they were. Those were spooky. And the nurses. Yeah. So when I saw the first movie and that part came along, okay, the nurses are coming. That freaked

me out. But I don't really remember much of the... I saw the movie once. I have it somewhere here. Well, the director of this one, Christoph Gans, Gans. He was the director of the first movie. So he's back to do this one.

Okay. I From the little bit that they show, it looks pretty good. Does it give you guys the feel of the game more? Or from what you can remember, more feeling of the first movie? I kind of just got, like, first movie vibes. Yeah, but it looks like it could have some pretty creepy moments, I think. Is there, like, a synopsis to what this one's about? Yeah, let me...

Got it right here. Because the idea of the first one kind of went a little bit with the game. That guy looking for his daughter. But then it went all kinds of crazy directions. All right. When a mysterious letter calls him back to Silent Hill in search of his lost love, James finds a once recognizable town and encounters terrifying figures both familiar and new and begins the question his own sanity.

Okay. all right I mean what they what they show us in the in the trailer looks good I mean got them walking through the mist and the ash coming down so that was I didn't know that in the game I thought it was snow that was coming down I didn't realize it was ash until someone knows something happened and that's ash oh okay but but yes they just showed the I think there were those creepy nurses again yeah they showed a little glimpse of um Yeah. I mean, I'll have to watch the second one because I never saw that one. I'll have to rewatch the first one as well. We'll get a whole new slew of cosplay characters. Yeah, I do like to see the nurse cosplay out there. That's true. The one that I always give props to is whatever that big triangle. A pyramid head.

Yeah, that one. When someone does that and has that big giant, like how strong is your neck? Because my head would snap. Trying to hold that thing. I think when we were all together in Texas Fright Mirror that one year, there was a guy there that had the outfit. And people had to get out of his way when he was like turning his head. Get clipped by him and fall over. Yeah, I didn't make it to Texas Frightmare everyone. Flights were out of control.

And it just didn't happen. I was bummed. I really wanted to meet Sean Cunningham, the guy I did Friday, 3rd. 13th, but Yeah, I've seen What's his name from Abigail? Peter, Kevin Durant The guy to play Peter,

the big strong guy. I heard he was just, like, very sociable and friendly with everybody in and outside the convention. And so was Matthew Lillard. Oh, nice, yeah. Matthew Lillard's cool. Yeah.

I meant Matthew Lillard one of those years we went. it was just about the end of the day so nobody was really at his table but he was standing in front of his table talking to some young little kids about Scooby Doo and everybody was throwing scream questions at him in the panel but when I got the one-on-one with him at his table

I just talked about skate TV he was the host of that but he did go nobody ever talks to me about that everyone just knows me from the movie Scooby do it's screed and he can't kind of like grab my shoulders and went thank you shook me a little thank you and i said that was i was i was in that right yeah i said skate tv was an awesome show i watched it every weekend he was like right on he goes that was fun it wasn't a skater but he was just the host but yeah it was he's a he's a nice guy man he's not one of those yeah whatever just signed and

shoved you off out of the way he'll sit there and talk to you that's what i like about when people do that. Fair enough. All right. Return to Silent Hill. No release date, but I have heard that it's probably most likely going to come out around August. You mean in the theater or streaming? I think they're going theater with this one. Probably. That makes sense. The kids will go to that one. Yeah. Hopefully they hype it up at Comic Con this year. Yeah. I'm juiced. I'm going this year finally. Again.

making my triumph of return. There it is. All right. On to some listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on No More Room and Hell. Part of the Dark Discussions Network, a movie podcast that discusses horror and genre films. On the most recent episode, Mr. Venom, Mike, and Derek are back to talk up a couple of Ui-Gooey-Gooey-Guardastic movies with Tokyo Gore Police and Adam Chaplin.

Tokyo Gore police, that's a good one. First, we catch up with some recent watches, including some of 2024s that we couldn't fit in on fresh cuts. Then we discuss a few new items, go on a few rants, and all the other usual banter that makes the opening segment of the show.

We then dig into our horror movies. Join us for No More Room in Hill, number 59. Good name. I like it. Al Ram's Source says I feel the same way people just don't want to go to the theaters. It's too expensive. Yeah.

Yeah. Russell Calhoun says it depends on the movie. And Daniel Lesage says got to sign up for movie pass. Do they still do movie pass? Is that a thing still? There's a documentary on it. Yeah.

They brought it back, but... I thought they were trying to bring it back. Yeah, I think it was like they were sending out limited like invitations to to join the subscription they weren't going to do like a super wide thing yeah did you guys do it yeah the new one or the original the original yeah I had the original but then I got a lot of regal theaters and they basically had the same deal for 20 bucks so I was just like get a little bit cheaper deal get get the same thing that movie pass had.

It was great for the few months that it lasted. Like, it was totally worth it. I saw a lot of movies on that thing. Yeah, it didn't, it didn't even go a year, did it? No. Because I remember when it, I still need to watch a documentary. I remember when it came out, my buddy was like, oh, man, movie pass, you got to get it, you got to get it,

because he was going to the movies every day. He would go before work and he'd go after work. And on his off days, I guess when you're single, I have no kids or anything. You do everything. He was there constantly seeing everything. I didn't understand how it worked. And I was,

I was always like, how does this make money? It doesn't. That's the problem. Yeah, because I was, I was using the movie pass and also using my membership card

to the theater to rack up points. And then I would take the points to get free tickets. And that's how I would pay for my daughter to get in. So we were just basically getting her in for free and getting me in for like a super discount. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how.

I got to watch the documentary too. I don't know how they were making money. The little bit I watched it, maybe the first 10 minutes, 15 minutes of it, they were like everywhere hyping it up. Like at conventions, at Coachella and all of this, hyping up movie pass. That's how they were getting it out there, I guess. And then I didn't ever heard about it until my friend was doing it.

And he's like, oh, it's like a credit card they give you. And I was like, what? He goes, yeah, man, you just pick the movie and depict the theater. Then you give them a few minutes. And then they go, okay, yeah, here, it's paid for. Show up at your theater. I was like, all right. Well, I mean, most subscriptions people just forget about it and pay anyway,

which I guess is what they were banking on. but not with movie theaters dude I'm speaking of that man I posted this the other day I think it was like last week when I went to the movie theater I walked up I don't remember what I saw and that lady goes okay yeah it's five bucks

I went five dollars and I looked over at the screen it would have been usually been like 10 but I looked at the screen and it said senior price I was like fuck I said do I look that old, I guess because of my goatees all gray in my hair. I didn't, I didn't get, I was shocked.

I wasn't like mad. I said, I'll pay the $5 things. Yeah, I'm kidding. Take it. But sitting there thinking about it, I was like, God damn, bro, look that old. But if it's going to get me cheap movies, hey, man, I'm going to take advantage. There you go. And the I Like It Spooky, Spooky podcast, Brian Godstil.

says, thanks for sharing. No problem. In regards to Christian Slater in the Dexter prequel, Keith Summer says, I wasn't too excited about this initially, but I do like to give everything a chance

to see how it goes. Tony Conway says I'm cautiously optimistic. I hope they have better writers than the last spinoff. You know what else I watched with Christian Slater? That Pop-Tart movie with uh oh frosted with Seinfeld yeah

it's pretty funny what is that I hear everyone talking about it it's just it's a stupid comedy but it's got like everybody is in this movie like a bunch of S&L guys Seinfeld got all his buddies

to come in it's like the creation of Pop Tarts but told in a fantastical comedy ridiculous way, yeah. Okay, I'll check it. Hugh Grant is in it.

He plays Tony the Tiger. He's the mascot with the head on and everything. It's funny. And we got a... But yeah, yeah, Christian Slater was in that. He was one of the milkmen mob guys. And he did a really good job. Dude, Christian Slater's still a badass.

All right, and we got... In regards to Mike Flanning doing the Exorcist film, Caleb Goodson says The main problem with the Exorcist movies In my opinion is that nobody ever Really does anything different from the Exorcists Like they're all the same movie Like slasher films are all the same thing

Every time, yes, but the thing that keeps us watching slasher's is at least A good chunk of people are the kills I can't really think of a movie about Exorcism that did anything different than the last one I think within the last three years I watched about four or five Exorcism movies

And the only one I actually remember remember at all was exorcist believer yeah i get that totally wrong yeah did we ever do the um brian the uh the last exorcism movies no but i would like to do that one i think that one's uh excellent movie which one is that it was more found footage yeah the first one second one was actually like second one's stupid because how can you be the last exorcism too like the kiss for eating to her well that was like Eddie and the Cruiser's too didn't he die in the first one

but he came back for the second film hey I kind of like that one I don't remember I see them but I don't remember yeah at some point we should do both of them because I love the first one I have that one the second one I saw it once I don't remember yeah I need to rewatch that second one

I think coming into it initially I just I let the title take me out of the movie because I was like this is stupid how can it be the last when it's part two I think it was the last of that the last exorcism to the the final part of the ceremony sort of walled yourself into a corner with the name there guys uh in regards to the dummies of horror podcast

Brian shared on the group Tim Davis says thank you guys much love definitely check out their podcast check out wrestling for dummies too oh here we go we got monarch season two Russell Calhoun says you spotlighted Kong in the last two movies it's Godzilla's turn not wrong but Kong you moat some more

yeah and I think I also I'm going to call it now I think they're going to give the the king crown title to Kong in the series because it's kind of hard for him to shine when he's getting

punked by Godzilla in the movies. That's true. Because he seems to lose those battles every time. Yeah, he kind of does. I think Godzilla's pretty powerful. In a violent nature, the poster, Tim Davis says that's cool, nice take on the burning poster.

Yeah, it's got a... Full disclosure, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm kind of excited about this movie. The preview look cool. The poster looks cool. I'm stoked about it. So I'll see what you guys think. Let's see. Hellraiser's Lament Configuration Box.

Paul Wood says, I got one at Comic Con, with a plinth to balance it on. To balance it on, absolutely love it. What does it plent? it's like a some sort of stand i guess uh let's see 28 years later uh corin jones says love these movies that guy deserves to be eaten um if i see the streets empty i'm not going to walk around calling out i would be like hmm this isn't good uh Tina Herrera trevino says uh one of my all-time favorite horror flicks can't wait for the third installment

So people are excited about it. Scream 7. Anthony Blake says they're just going to do what Halloween did and erase all the screams that happened after the third one, I imagine. Jamie Mitchell says Sidney's daughter as a teenager to set up a new trilogy. Maybe they will kill Sidney. Maybe. I don't remember how the last one ended.

And in regards to Heather Lane Camps, possible return to another film. Raymond Morgan says, I wish this would have. happened, love the actress, and love the character of Nancy. It would be awesome. Now, this is not something announced or anything. This is something she wants. She died. Okay. So it's sort of a rumor that she started. She would have to return back as an actual dream warrior. Like, she's just been fighting Freddie Krueger all these years in his dreams or in other people's dreams. I don't know.

A way to With the shows Said and done already But the way I always wanted If you guys remember Freddy's nightmares When it was his dreams or whatever That would have been a good episode

For her to come back then Yeah I don't know I didn't She torments him in his dreams While he's tormenting other people Yeah I think that would have been cool

But if they make that in a movie But all right cool But I don't know She died She's gonna be the old hermit that they go to and get some exposition from. I don't know.

After Dream Warriors, to me, it went downhill. Let's see. Nathaniel Bacon says, please ask her. She was excellent in a new nightmare. They should just continue from Dream Warriors and say she dreamt the rest of the series. Hasina Ali says, would love for her to have a cameo or a part in a scream movie. This shouldn't have happened when West Craven was alive.

Or this should have happened when West Craven was alive. Zim Vader says, because it's the only role she's ever done where her bad acting was not only appreciated, but often mistaken for great acting. There you are, Zim. Yeah. It's like a Luke Skywalker situation, right? She bugged me in the first one.

I didn't feel sorry for her at all. her whiningness through the whole movie was bugging me I mean because my cousin took me to see that one I didn't even know what it was the first one the original yeah he was like hey man let's just go go see this movie yeah what is it

man on Elm Street what's it about I don't know a new horror movie I was like okay whatever so we went and seen it and sitting down the poster looked cool before we walked in the theater and then after the movie was over I was like, that was pretty awesome. Didn't realize we were going to get this turn into this huge franchise that it did.

But yeah, man, I appreciate the first one. I love West Craven and what he had done with it. Two and three are awesome. I didn't care for the ones after. But shout out to my cousin Evans. He recently passed away. And he was the one that took me to see that to Nightmare on Street. So he took me to see a lot of good movies.

He took me to see The Thing. Empire Strikes Back when they brought it back to theaters. I mean, Nightmare on the Elm Street. The original Scarface. Well, not the original, but the Al Pacino Scarface. He took me to see that. And all kinds of horror movies that came out. And I just recently watched Band of the Hand the other night.

Did we do that one, Brian? Yeah, we did. Okay. I don't know what that is. That's Stephen Lang. When he's native. Good movie, though. Hella good. We got two be.

Everyone got two be. It's on there. Check it out. We've done a few movies where... For what's the one of what we did, James Bremar was native. Oh, the Long Riders? Well, that was, what's his name is Buddy, Walter Hill? Yeah.

That crying guy in the 70s turned out to be Italian. Ironize Cody Yeah But yeah Shout out to my cousin Evans man He took me to see Nightmare on Elm Street And yeah Rest and peace brother

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Shout out to Steve. Yeah. The hockey mask and the mascot. I'm calling them Jasper, everyone. I don't know if you guys. Oh, we, we, Jasper Jenkins. Oh, is that what it? It's official.

Is that what I said? Yeah. Okay, all right. Well, yeah, Jasper. I haven't wore yet. I have it. I was going to wear it when I was going to go to Texas Frightmare, since that didn't happen. But I am going to wear it when I go to Sinister CreatureCon, the horror convention in Sacramento in a couple weeks. So if you guys see me, just tell me what's up. But some sad news that I just came across actor Eric Anderson. He played Rob Deere in Friday the 13th, the final time. chapter. He passed away from cancer. Really sad news from late Friday night as one of my favorite actors from the franchise. Eric Anderson has passed away from a long battle with cancer. His wife posted about his passing on Instagram. I won't read it to big old long thing, but he was the guy who was hunting Jason and the fourth one. And everyone goes to, I've seen, heard many interviews with him i never got to meet the man i wish i could have everyone always made

fun of him because the scene when jason attacks him in the basement he's he's killing me he keeps yelling that see the guy in the tent yeah he was that dude it was him um i did had no idea he was he was battling cancer and and um but yeah fuck cancer i hate it man it's took him a lot of good people in our lives. But yeah, Friday the 13th final chapter. One of my favorite ones. I really loved it. Shout out to Ted White. He played Jason in that one, rest in peace.

Corey Hellen in that one? Yeah. Shout out to Corey Ham. Yeah, Corey Ham, rest in peace. We love you. We still got to redo that. Was that 94? Was that the one? 95, I think.

I don't remember. One of those. I still think you should release that episode. I don't know. I'd have to look. Somebody that wasn't even in the movie for a good portion. I don't know, man. I must have been tired that night.

But, who, that was, oh, man. It's somewhat after dig it through it. It's in my old computer, but, yeah,

rest in peace, Eric Anderson. Or, yeah, Eric Anderson. All right. On to featured attractions. This week.

week. It's a slasher week as we check out with in a violent nature and 1987's Twisted Nightmare. We'll start with twisted nightmare. A little difficult to find. But once you find, it's actually on YouTube. You can get it. A group of teenagers win a trip to a summer camp.

They attended as children. However, soon after they get there, they begin to disappear one by one. the survivors suspect that the disappearances may be connected to the death of a handicapped child at the camp years before. Was he handicapped?

Uh, director. Mentally, a little. Oh, I thought he's just weird. Uh, director is Paul Hunt, also known for Merlin and the Psychedelics. Are those two different movies, or are they one movie?

Because I want them to be one movie. Merlin and the Psychedelics. Sounds like a great band name. writers are Paul Hunt with Charles Philip Moore features an homage to Friday the 13th Part 3 when the killer is stabbed with a pitchfork The handle mimics the 3D camera shot from the film All right, Nez, you're a resident 80s horror guy

What'd you think about Twisted Nightmare? I'm gonna do a lance I didn't watch it, guys Sorry, I meant to You ever seen it before? I never even heard of it. Okay. Yeah.

I'll give you guys one extra. I'll watch it everyone, and then I'll do a quick review on it. So you'll get my two cents on it. I had a hard time finding it, man. Because, like, it says that it's on Amazon. But when you click on it on Amazon, it sends you to a movie called Ancient Evil, which I guess is maybe an AKA for this movie and gives you the same, like, line up and cast and crew and all that. And the movie's starting and I'm like, I don't think this is right.

And apparently there's an ancient evil too about an Egyptian mummy that they bring back to life, which is the one that I was halfway through. But anyway, it is, it is on YouTube, the full movie. Brian, what did you think about it? Yeah, I had to watch it off the copy off YouTube. Yeah. It is not a great copy. It is very dark. You know how you watch?

You do you watch? Is that the movie? It's the movie because you know that thing people get mad about? I get mad about it too sometimes when people are like being chased through the woods and the woods are like super lit up and you're just like how is it lit up so much? Yeah. I wish they did that for this movie because they tried to go realistic and I couldn't tell what was happening through most of the movie because most of it's set through night, nighttime. time. Yeah.

Yeah, that is the synopsis is basically the premise of the movie. They win tickets to go back to this camp. One of the campgoers was the sister of the boy who was killed. In this world, there are no camp counselors around or other kids other than the small group when they do the flashback or when they're at this trip they went to this camp. They got kidnapped the first time. They just got away. yeah and it's weird because like the guys are like all super muscled up for no damn reason like the one Asian guy

he's like constantly walking around with like no shirt like he hears he hears like a couple arguing in the other room and he comes out like flexing his chest he's like what's going on in here and he's by far the worst actor in the movie oh yeah which is a lot to say yeah because the acting's not great but he is clearly reading his lines off camera. The kills were off screen. A lot of them is very reminiscent of Friday of 13th. They took more than that scene in trivia.

They took a lot from Friday 13th. They just don't show you the kills. Yeah, they took the whole concept from Friday the 13th. And this killer likes to, hang the victims now as you know on Friday the 13th when they're walking a room and the body just flaps down from from the ceiling they're hanging upside down yeah every victim in this movie happens to

somebody's just running into somebody hung up upside down and it just repeated over and over is this also called ancient evil or ancient yeah I think so all right because i i had to look i said it was on tube but i didn't see it but then i went on yeah i couldn't find it on toby either but that's amazon it's on there but it's called ancient evil but the one that plays on amazon is actually ancient evil too oh yeah your your safest bet is to go with the youtube copy which i don't know turn the lighting on your tv out it is hard to see anything.

Maybe that helps. I was watching it in the daytime with a glare. It was rough. And then they throw in this angle that, I don't know if you remember this or not, Phil, like people, like long ago were killed on this ancient Native American burial ground scenario or the camp used to be on the location of something.

And that explains the supernatural element that is all of a sudden introduced to this movie. I thought it was just a crazy guy killing people. And they just kind of never explain it. They introduce it, and then it goes nowhere. Yeah. I was going to ask that question, how come, like, so you get evil and you become a, like, fucking superhero?

I mean... They can't kill a guy. Yeah, I mean, the, the supposed... a kid that gets killed he gets set on fire and burns to death but then returns as the Hulk yeah and it's just murdering people in the scene where he where he gets set on fire is kind of awesome because like when he walks out it's like obviously a guy all suited up with the goggles and everything doing the firewalk Lance would have been proud it was real fire yeah it was definitely real fire. Yeah, they introduced this angle and they just kind of, I felt like they went nowhere with it.

Yeah, I guess it explains why he's, the killer's getting stabbed and he's just going and going and gone. But why it happened to him, don't explain it. So I can't, I can't really recommend this one. I had a list of summer slashes that I haven't seen. And this was one of the top ones. I'm kind of regretting on picking it. Well, I guess you've got to get through them at some point. Yeah, he, they don't really show a good, clear picture of the monster or whatever. It's like they couldn't afford lighting for this movie. Yeah, seriously. But he just, he looked like he got blown up by Wiley Coyote, you know.

It's like they had the campgrounds for like two days or something. And they shot all the flashback stuff during the day and the rest of the movie at night. Yeah. But yeah, it was definitely really dark. I sort of felt the same way. It was not very well acted. Matter of fact, if you look at the IMD B credits on this, there's like only two or three people that even have a picture on there. So I don't think they're actual actors.

If you go to the Wikipedia page, you can only click on one actor's name. Yeah. So these were like his buddies or something. I don't know. It's a low-budget, late 80s, schlocky, Friday the 13th rip-off is what it is. And that's exactly what it feels like. I don't know what else you want to expect from that. All right.

what do you think about scores Brian? I had to go one I give them a one because they I can't say it's absolute garbage I'm really trying to get away from saying movies are garbage because they actually

made a movie I wouldn't even know where to begin but I will never watch this movie again there's not one it's not even on a so bad it's good level to where I'm going to watch it again because it's funny how bad it is it's not even that either yeah I had exactly where I was going to go with it this movie so bad that I put on the burning because I needed to watch a good summer slasher film right after I did it I had to watch the taste out of this out of my mouth I had to

put something else on that's when I watched Godzilla minus one like I just got finished watching because I was like man I need a movie that I can actually watch But yeah, I did the same thing, dude. And yeah, it's like, okay, rock and roll nightmare was terrible, right? It's a bad movie. But it's really funny and entertaining. It's so bad, it's good. This one is so bad that I don't want to watch it.

And I don't ever want to watch it again. I mean, I guess I'm glad I watched it once, but it's so freaking obscure that, like, that's a show. That's a shitty merit badge. It could be the one guy at the party. For some reason, this gets brought up. You can be like, I know that movie. Yeah.

If anybody else has ever seen. Yeah. But yeah, I'm going to go... Yeah, I guess I can't really... There's not a whole lot of redeeming stuff about it. I guess I have to go one. Yeah. I mean, it looks terrible.

The acting's bad. The kills are off screen. The story... It's straightforward until they try to get creative and add a new element to it, but it just doesn't make sense. It kind of confuses things even more. I didn't even really give a shit about the story at that point. I was just like, when is this going to be over? I couldn't pay attention to it.

All right. Well, it may not make the bottom of our list all time, but I will forget about this movie by tomorrow. I'm glad I watched it today. All right. We'll move on to our new one with hopefully a change of pace. In a Violent Nature from 2024. When a locket is removed

from a collapsed fire tower in the woods that entombed the rotting corpse of Johnny, a vengeful spirit spurred on by a horrific 60-year-old crime. His body is resurrected and becomes held, bent on retrieving it. The locket, I assume. That sentence didn't make a ton of sense. And it was all one sentence. Director and writers, Chris Nash, also known for a segment in the ABCs of Death 2. Not a lot.

Filming began in Central Ontario, Canada, near the Coarth Lake's area, before moving to the Algoma District in Ontario in 2021. It was released three years later in January of 2024. So they had this one in the GAN for a while. Yeah, before you get started, Nes, I have to say, I didn't get a chance to watch it either. Oh. That's a Ness review. This is your spotlight right here. Oh, okay.

Lance gave it a nine, by the way. Yeah. Just to throw that out there. I don't know what that means. I don't know if I believe his nine because he added the fact that. He was like, you say I hate slasher movies. So I don't know if it was despite that comment. It at least gets a couple extra points out of spite.

Yeah. All right, this is what he wrote to me. This is what Land said. He says, you got to put me in, Coach, to talk about the movie. He gives a 9 out of 10. Probably going to be my favorite movie of the year. The way they mixed slow burn and off-screen kills, than two of the best

Gorious kills I've seen since Terrifier. I fucking loved it. Okay. All right. That was Brother Lance. Pretty good for you. Put that on the Bluroy. I know. Yeah. Is it

is this playing everywhere? Or is it? For me, it's playing in one theater and they were shown very limited screenings of it. It is playing here. just not at the times I was able to make it to the theater and it's not out there yeah that was my problem it's not out there in the closest theater is like an hour and a half way it's playing it

okay I'm looking in my area to see um because I thought it was everywhere I didn't I didn't know because even Mike I said dude you got to go see this movie he goes it's not playing anywhere near where he lives and he lives in Hollywood. Seems like a lot of people in our horror podcast community have seen this movie this weekend. I just, I just, with the, and we're doing the show a little bit earlier than we usually do. So, I schedule it wise, it was very hard for me to go see it. Yeah.

Well, there's always at least one or two theaters around here that, I mean, still an hour, hour and a half way. But that'll play the little obscure limited release ones. It's just a long fucking drive, man. And for those who didn't get a chance to see it in theater, Shutter has picked it up. So it'll be, I'm going to say probably end of the summer. It'll be on there. Yeah, I saw the Shutter logo on it. I figured it was like a Shutter produced thing. I guess not. Yeah.

The Shudder's picking up everything, which is good. Fine. I mean, hitting miss on their movies. I mean, They're not all winners. But they're not all losers either. I don't know. I mean, I don't make movies. But speaking of movies being made, I am going to be a friend of the show, Mike J. Morin's latest film, short film he's making. Movie star.

First voice. I voice a police officer and some other one I can't remember. We did our lines the other night. I don't know much about the story. I just read the lines and he recorded it. But anyway, in a violent nature, it was playing in three theaters in the Reno Sparks area. So if it plays Reno, I figured it was everywhere. They had multiple showings, at least four.

In the out of the three theaters daily. I want to go see the same. again because this movie was fucking awesome um i loved how they filmed they filmed it if you if you watch the trailer and you just see the i didn't know his name was johnny i didn't really read into it i just saw the trailer and said okay another slasher movie i'll go see it johnny jason whatever yes i'll get to that and we get the spoilers but anyway the when he's just walking along and and the camera guys are behind them filming it. At times, this movie felt like a video game. Because, you know, when you're, like Silent Hill, when you just see your character walk,

all we see is the back of your character walking along. That's how this was. Again, it's in the trailer, how you just see him walking through the woods and all that. I loved how they did that. I mean, they do cut scenes where we see him walking, walking, and then you're like, okay, where's he going? Then it cuts to another, and he's still walking, but he's trying to get to everywhere. It was like, you were following him as he's going on his killing spree. I thought that was really cool how they did that. Then there's one scene, obviously it was a drone shot when he's taking on these two guys,

and the camera is above him, and we just see it like a straight down view. I thought that was amazing. Practical effects. If there's CGI in this, I'm not. I don't know exactly where they used it. Nice. A lot of practical effects, which I thought was always gets a 10 in my book. The story, it's nothing we haven't seen before.

A lot of, it was, um. Nope, you meet each self. I had to cough. Sorry, everyone. That's right. It was kind of Friday the 13th-ish. Okay. There's a scene in the trailer when this guy is telling the story of Johnny.

Part 2. You got Paul telling the story of Jason. And then there's some other things that kind of just allude to Friday of the 13th. Obviously, whoever made this film loves Friday the 13th. So that's probably why I know the bonus point it gets that I love. So they just decided to make another one since they didn't have permission to do it yet anyway. That's what some people are saying. I was reading some of the reviews.

Like, hey, we don't have a Friday 13th movie, but we're going to get this. And because I thought it was a Friday of 13th movie. When I first saw the little trailer, you see that guy walking behind. I was like, is that Jason? And then it went into something else. So I was like, okay. These guys in a cabin, Johnny comes along, you're in his woods, and all hills is going to break a little. So there wasn't there there was kind of a backstory with Johnny

Which I won't go into Um Because I was kind of confused with with how he became like yeah It gives it away in little synopsis with the locket And then he starts his killing spree The ending It was a little long And I need to I need to see it again

Because there was a this lady talking about something and I was like okay get to your point on what you're talking about then the movie was over and I was like hmm I was scratching my head like all right and I sat through the whole credits

there's no scenes nothing so once the movie's over get up and leave but I thought it was not again it was nothing new I mean when you go to see these films for me personally, I mean, if you're going to give me a cool story, cool. But when I go see Friday 13th films or Halloween films, I want to see the kills. I want to see how they're going to amaze me and make me ooh and awe through the whole thing. Because in this one, each and every kill, I was like, oh, shit, oh, damn.

There was, there was me, one, two, three, four, like seven people in the theater. when I saw it. It was one of the smaller theaters. It was about seven of us in there. It was the I think it was the second showing of the day. I went after work. And I was like, whoa, whoa,

on what they were showing us. But again, the story, they tried to, I don't know if this is going to be a franchise. I mean, it could. It could be, but I don't know. I don't know how long they were sitting on this movie before they released it.

but I don't have it may sound like I'm sounding negative about it I'm not I thought it was an amazing film it's definitely going to be on my best of for for 2024 um and practical effects I love when they do that I mean we we get I hate CGI blood but I can just take it or leave it but with this one they really they really really went for it with the practical effects which I loved so I thought was awesome there's a scene in this film I'll talk about it a little bit in spoilers because you guys didn't see it. But everybody in the mother that's seen this film is talking about it right now. As soon as the screenings were done, even all the reviews that I watched

on YouTube, the guys were talking about, they were mainly talking about this one scene. And it was fucking awesome on what they did in that couple minutes. And it kind of went on and on. Usually when you get a kill, it's just like, let's throw, boom, move on.

the next one. No, this went on a few minutes and I was like, oh my God. I mean, one thing would happen and you're like, oh shit, but then it keeps going and gives you another. Oh, fuck. And next thing you know, my hands are on my face and I'm like, oh, my God. Everybody, the seven of us in the theater were all making noise going, oh, my God, there was one girl in the front was like, oh, ew, ah, ah, I was, I was like, wow. And I see just about every horror movie that comes out. or I tried to see everything. And I think the last one that made me owing on like that was terrifier too. Because if you guys are seeing that, they really went for it in that one.

But, I mean, overall, in the end, it's nothing new. We haven't seen really Friday the 13th-ish. And I enjoyed it. I thought it was an amazing film. I liked what this director did, mainly on how he filmed it. Like I said, with the camera following. following Johnny. We just see the back and then we do see him.

The movie poser kind of spoils it. The one when you see the mask, I thought that was cool. It was kind of Friday of 13-ish and how he came across it. Good question. Go ahead. I've seen a lot of reviews saying this is probably going to be a new horror icon. Do you agree if this turns into a franchise?

and they keep up this level of this type of movie? I would like this to be a one and done because I think it was something my opinion. Again, it was something we've seen before, but it was a little unique, mainly on how they filmed it. If it does turn into

and they make more movies, I don't know how much money in the movie that's made. If they do, do, it, they would just have to top what they did in the first film. Like Terror Fier, the first one, that was really bloody and gory and everything. And they topped it with Terrifier 2. And from what I understand, a friend of mine knows the director of the third terrifier, he said, if you thought two was bad, wait, do you see what we're going to do?

And three. So I think if they continue with these movies, they would have to top what we've seen already. and not really put much into the story. Terrifier, too. I loved it. Awesome film. Made my best of list. It was a little too long.

It didn't need to be as long as it was. They could have cut 20 minutes out of it. This one was short and to the point. If it would have stressed like two hours, I'd have been like, okay, next. Because I just saw Furiosa, the Mad Max, whatever saga thing. Did it need to be almost two and a half hours?

No. Okay. It didn't even need to be two hours. I just hate that it's getting great reviews, but it bombed at the box office. I didn't care for Fury Road. And everyone's shocked on that. This hashtag not my Max Rockatansky. Nothing against Tom Hardy and everybody that made that film, as well as this new film.

I just didn't see the need for it. If you're going to give me characters about side stories, give me one about the gyro cap. Give me the one about the Knight Rider. Give me one about Humongous before Max came across him. Somebody that, like, I invested time in. Or even... Well, they're doing a series next on the Wasteland. What was Tina Turner's name?

Ante something in Thunderdome? I'd like to see her hear her story. I mean, rest in peace, Tina Turner. But, I mean, Furiosa, I didn't care about her. and I mean I love Charlie Sterron and I love Anya Taylor Joy as well but I just

to me my opinion I didn't I don't need to see her backstory but with this one if it does become a franchise don't I think it'll ruin it to explain why this guy was how he was

why he was yeah I mean they give you a little little short story on it during the campfire but then everything but it's even got like a house name to it you know like in a violent nature you don't have in a violent nature too that's not how that works still in a violent nature i don't know but i i don't if they make another one i'll see it but like i said that i think they're going to have to top what they did in the killings and if this was just a one and done and he goes on to make something else cool i'll follow this director because i liked what he

did in this one again this isn't this is a movie of we've seen before another horror movies and and that's why i always go to friday 13 especially with this one because it was like friday the 13 i mean you have this jacianist character that that you can't stop and he puts on a mask and starts killing people i mean how many movies have we've seen other than Jason and Michael and everyone else that has the masks on and everything. But I'm just going, what I took away from it, I thought it was really good with the practical effects. And I loved how this director and filmed it. I liked what they did.

They, it could have been shorter with some of the dialogue, especially that scene at the end. I think if they were to shorten that, maybe five minutes or however long it was, because it kind of, it didn't really go anywhere. That maybe, that's what, maybe I need to see it again. Maybe it didn't, I just didn't get it. Well, one of the few down parts I've heard people speak of was, they said that as good as the movie was, the ending kind of lost them. Yes, because, I mean,

well, I'll get to it in spoilers in a minute, but I mean, it doesn't ruin the movie or anything, but score, I'm gonna give, I'm I'm with, I'm with Lance, I'll give it a nine. Ooh. I really enjoyed the film. I want to go see it again. A buddy of mine just

texted me while we're recording this and wanted to know if I saw it and I said, yes, it's hella good. Go see it. So he's going to go see it. He loves horror movies just like us. But yeah, I mean, if this plane in your area and want to see this on the big screen, I highly recommend you go see it on the screen.

When it comes on Shitter, hell yeah, I'll watch it. When it comes out on Blu-ray or 4K, damn well, I'm going to buy this. And it is making my best-of list of 2024. And I highly enjoyed this film. I want to go see it again before they yank it because I'm not sure if Reno Sparks area where I saw. But there's horror fans everywhere, but I don't know if it's going to last. Maybe it'll pull it from a couple screens and just be in one theater. It made over two million over the weekend.

I don't know if that's great because there's no budget for it. Did it look like it had a big budget or it was just filmed well? I don't know who any of these actors were. But there is an actor in it, Lauren Marie Taylor. she was in Friday the 13th part two and that's where I kind of get the Friday 13th to vibe from this for those you that remember she played

that one girl with the brown panties Vicky if you guys remember that movie everyone said she had the shit colored panties I believe wait I think she's going to have an interview on this podcast that I listen to let me

let me just make sure the show is happy horror time they do a lot of great interviews yes and I think yeah she's going to be she's going to be on the other episode

the latest episode that comes out and on their on their Instagram they show a picture of her holding those brown panties so yeah she definitely check that out it's um i didn't realize that was her until i looked at the cast i was like well she was in this i think she was the older lady at the end telling the story about whatever okay says she's just listed as the woman yeah not many people have iconic panties yeah i mean but yeah everyone else she i'm i didn't i didn't i didn't

recognize her. Of course, she's much older. But as far as the main cast, or even the guy that plays Johnny, I don't recognize anybody. Maybe I've seen them in other things, but yeah, the guy that plays Johnny

a Rye Barrett, I don't think I've seen any of these films that he's been in. But I'm going to check it out because this guy was a big big guy. I don't know if he is as big as what was the rest of those name and played Michael Myers and Rob Zombies?

Tyler Maine. Yeah. I don't know if he's as big as him. Yeah, I don't know if he's as big as him. Because I've seen that guy, and that guy's big. I couldn't imagine him being Michael Myers coming at me. I mean, I've met Nick Castle, an awesome guy. He's a little, little taller than me, but not Tyler Main tall.

But in the end, in a violent nature, if it's plain in your area, I'm sure a lot of you have seen it but if you haven't seen it go see it I really like this film I thought it was awesome it's drama horror thriller okay I can go with that there was a lot of

of this and that in it but yeah in a violent nature awesome film and again it nine yeah what kind of spoilers do we want to talk about there really isn't anything to spoil about

this. What's the scene that everybody's talking about? Everyone's calling it the yoga scene. The yoga kill. I've heard about it. It's just this girl. She was going to hook up with this other girl and she goes, hey, I'm going to go over here and do some yoga to loosen up for you because they were kind of getting ready to hook up.

But she wanted to limber up. I don't know exactly what she was going to do. to need limbering up but okay um so she went off to this like cliff side and she was sitting there doing uh her little yoga routine and here comes johnny he just comes walking through the through the woods up to her and and then and kills her but that kill was amazing i don't want to say what happened in it um but yeah it's something you need to see because like i said i was like wow And it was practical effects too. That's what was amazing about it.

And it went on and on. It wasn't like just boom, slid a throat, broke her back or whatever, then moved on. No, he did one thing. Then he went into another, then another and another. I was like, wow, man.

It was crazy. And as far as the other kills as well, too. I mean, um, yeah. I mean, just the regular run, run-in stuff. Drown one person, break someone's neck or whatever, stab him, do whatever. I mean, he has these hooks that he's carrying around and everything.

But they do show his face. It's kind of jationist, not too bad. But, I mean, it was good. I mean, the makeup effects that they did to his face. Because mainly you just see the back of his head before he gets the mask. and then once he gets the mask and I was like I think it was a fire hood

that they wore because he broke into this museum and he took he saw the mask that was hanging on the wall in a display case he took that and then he had these hooks I assume they're firefighting hooks

I don't know what they're if you're looking at the poster you see him holding a hook I don't think they should have made this poster because they're seeing the mask I like the one where you just when you just see behind him. I like that poster.

But yeah, once he gets that mask and then all hail breaks loose from there on. But yeah, man, it was cool on what they did with all the kills. And yeah, that scene at the end, the girl, the final girl, is running away from him

and this lady pulls up, the woman, she just pulls up, the lady with this shit-colored panties. She shows up, she gets in her truck, and then she starts going into this story and it kind of went on and on and I was like is this leading somewhere that's why I want to see it again mainly for that for that scene just to listen to really listen to what she had to say I thought

she was going to like say something to like be in on it or something or maybe be a long lost relative of Johnny or maybe she did say that and I didn't get it but I don't know she was just rambling and rambling and then the movie was over and i was like shit that's it because i didn't i didn't know if that lady was taken the final girl to see johnny or was she taken her to get help because they kind of throw you off a little she's driving and driving and then she stops and then the girl's like come on what are you doing let's go let's go let's get out of here

he's gonna he's gonna come come on she's like no come down calm down it's okay well i'll i'll get you to the hospital it's all right that kind of made me think that she was like she was in on it but then yeah and it was over i was like hmm okay but overall i would have gave it a 10 if the ending was uh not that what we got yeah one of those vague endings yeah because it was just like screen went black directed by chris nash but i was like wow man i again i sat through the whole credits and everything just to see if there was going to be anything else but there was nothing but i mean there there isn't really really much to spoil in this i mean again you go to see these movies to see all the kills and everything they give you that quick little story on who johnny is

during the campfire scene which they show in the trailer and then that's it because you kind of really don't even go into any kind of backstory on on the the character characters that are in it it's not like we care about them but it was it was just kind of straightened to the point there's only hour and 34 minutes so it goes by pretty quick but i mean what i loved was how they filmed this how they were following him through just strutting along he didn't run he didn't like uh go walk fast or anything he was like he just just walking and the whoever was with the camera was following him so i thought that was i thought that was i thought it was really cool on how they did that like hardcore henry but in third person yeah i mean if this was a one

and done and they just leave it alone fine like the burning yeah you guys brought that up that was a one and done movie that could have went into a franchise type of thing but friday 13 kind of took over the 80s um so but they did in the burning for spoiler to be seen and should have seen it by now they kill him at the end so they it couldn't have went on, but I like that one. This one, you don't know. He's battle damaged and everything, but then the movie was over,

so we don't really know exactly what happened to him. So, but I don't know. I mean, I like what they were doing in it, but I was kind of confused a little bit. Maybe they make a deal and tie it to the Jason franchise. No, I mean, but when he spun around and you see him the front of him

because usually you just see the back he had the flannel shirt the t-shirt and Jason had a flannel at one point and in part two Jason had the flannel and

yeah I mean this movie goes to to me in my mind Friday 13th part two so but I mean but in the end in a violent nature it was an awesome film I highly recommend it if you care on what I'm saying to go see it.

If you've seen it already, maybe you have different thoughts on it, maybe something that in it meant this to you instead of what I'm saying. But I thought it was an awesome film. I loved it. I want to go see it again before they pull it away. And like I said, when it hit shutter, I'll watch it. When it comes out on Blu-ray, I'll buy it because this movie was awesome. Nice.

I'm really stoked about it now. Yeah. and landscape it a nine i know no word on when it's coming to streaming now no give it a couple months because what what um what was that one late night with the devil oh yeah that one went quick two months and then it was on shutter yeah you guys haven't seen that and you have shutter or amzzi plus watch late nine with the devil i thought it was an awesome great movie all right I guess that wraps up the show. As always, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

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After you guys see it, we need to do another one. Yeah, a quick review. I want to hear what you guys say on it. So we'll do a quick review for it. So, but yeah, everyone, thank you for listening and good night.