The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #421: Doomsday (2008) & The Domestics (2018)

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

Tavares Ellis from Student of the Game podcast joins us to talk some apocalyptic horror. And lots of cannibalism, oddly. Cool of the week includes Sweet Tooth, Yesterday, I Saw the TV Glow, and What You Wish For. Trailers are Smile 2 and Strange Darling. The podcast spotlight shines on FriGay the 13th. And we get feedback from Steve Carleton, Marcey Papandrea, Xim Vader, Tim Davis, Don Lowery, Gabriella Bakos, Mark Pearce, Christina Rizzuto, Karen Dunnett, James Womack, Colin Bressler, VonnBlade, Teddy Spag, Judah Reilly-Szostak, and Tiff Hubbard. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest, of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'm Lance. With me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip. And tonight, Tavares is in the house from Student of the Game podcast.

It's been a while. I think the last time you were with us for those lost episodes that we forgot to record for what was it? Tales from the Crypt or help me out here? Tales from the Crypt, yeah. Oh, yeah. How many episodes we have recorded? Was it like three or four of them?

Too many. What do you think, Brian? How many that we recorded or how many did we did? How many that we did? Oh, that we made. I think we did four episodes. I think we maybe only recorded one or two. Okay. Okay. One day we'll pick it up again.

All right. I'm always going to talk about tests from the trip. Oh, that's cool. All right. Well, we'll record a whole new show then. Same show's different talk, right? Yeah, right. So, all right, Tvaris Ellis.

You're still a Houston guy, right? Oh, yeah, man. H-town, age-town to the fullest, man. Looking for it. Let me see. Next week, they got the NBA draft, so I'm looking forward to seeing what the Rockets are going to do with this third pick. This year.

This will be the year. year, right, Brian? No, every year's the year. I know, right? Like the cowboys. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Come on, Lance.

Don't be that, man. Don't be that, man. Don't be so cruel, Lance. Come on, man. They hate the cowboys in you, remember? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know, right? Come on, man.

You're for getting your roots all ready, bro. But, all right. I've had people yell at me. on the street for wearing a cowboy jersey. What happened? I've said, I've had people yell at me on the street for wearing a cowboy jersey. Hey, hey, I've seen plenty of people get yelled.

When a cowboy, you know, you're strong wheels, man, because when y'all lose, everybody, everybody got something bad to say to y'all, man. Oh, yeah. Man, kudos to you, man. You got thick skin, brother. I hadn't paid attention to it a whole lot at all this year, but my son's real interested,

so we may end up going to a game or two. Oh, okay, okay. That's a lot of money. That's a big investment, a game or two. Well, yeah, maybe not so much this year. It might be next year. Yeah. Well, Tvaris Ellis, student of the game.

What are you guys talking? talking about on the podcast these days. How's everything going? This past week, I've been talking about the NBA finals, which just wrapped up about three, four days ago. I predicted Celtics and 5 when a whole lot of people was talking about the Dallas Mavericks with the greatest back court in NBA history was going to sweep or win in six. But my thing was, hey, can't be the great. ready's back court in NBA history if Luca and Kyrie doesn't play

defense so you know let's be honest Boston could have won four but I think they gave him that game I said let's be honest Boston could have won it four but they gave him one game just so they can go back and win it home oh for sure

for sure but sure you can tell like I think that game four they lost about like 40 points I mean it was like man It's exhibition. You know, they was trying, they was too busy. They was worried about their father's day plans and stuff. They wasn't worried about that game, man.

They were like, all right, man, we'll let y'all have one. But, yeah, I called Celtics and 5, and it was Celtics and 5, like I said. Also, cool thing about that, you know, the Rockets got two championships and Dallas still at one. And now the Rockets, we got to somehow catch these spurs. You know, they got three up on. so we got to catch up in championship. But let me see.

Talking about that, and I've been following a lot, still following a lot of Marvel stuff. Well, mainly the whole news that's going on with Blade. I don't know if y'all been keeping up with that, but it seems like by the time Hirschar Ali actually is going to film a Blade movie,

he's probably going to be Wesley Snipes age right now, you know. Did they change the director or something? What happened? They've had like 19 directors and 32 writers. Yeah, you know. That guy has filmed nothing. He has not taken a role in like five years because he's waiting on this movie. He's going to be as old as Wesley Snipes.

Yeah, exactly, man. It's like, it's getting to the point. You might as well have, hey, just call Wesley up and let him, you know, work his blade magic only. he did the first two. Right. We don't count the third one, like he did the first two. Right.

But let me see. I believe that I think Jordan Pill is going to end up being the new director on it. Like, I have no sources. I have no sources whatsoever on this. But a couple weeks ago.

That'd be an odd choice, but okay, I'll go with it. A couple weeks ago, it was reported that Jordan Pill had interviewed with Marvel about doing a movie. He never said which movie. Then the next week, the current Blade director, I couldn't remember if they fired him or if he just quit.

I think he quit. He quit. Okay. Yeah. And Jordan Peele posted something on his Twitter page. He says his next theatrical release is going to be on October 23rd, 2006. That's all right.

Okay. It's a long way away. It is. It is, man. But see, he didn't give the name of a movie. So I said, you know what? Let me see. Let me see.

Where was Blade born? And I just randomly looked up. Blade was born on October 24th, 1929. Shit, I didn't know he was that old. 1929. So I'm like, okay, so normally they release movies on a Friday. So the 23rd, that's the closest that they could get to Blaze's birthday and have it release on a Friday. But see at the same time, though. Conspiracy theory to put Philip to shame here.

I love it. Take this out. I'm not done yet. So, 2026, right? You flip that six over. You got a 29 right there. Wow. Wow. Not done yet. Not done yet. Stay with me. Stay with you right quick. All right.

So, Blade, my mom was pregnant with him. He was bit by a vampire. So I think, okay, well, she was bit by the vampire at like 1159 on October 23rd.

Okay. Anytime after 12 a.m., technically you're in October 24 territory. That's when. I'm trying to stay with you. I'm really trying to. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay.

It's okay. Hey, I could be right or I could be wrong. But if I'm right, we could come back to this episode and be like, man, you know what? Tavares was actually right. Some of that shit he said made, actually made some pretty good sense right there.

That would be, I wouldn't be upset. I wouldn't be upset. But, I mean, I'm hoping that I feel like, I like some of his horror stuff. I don't like all of it, but I did enjoy get out. What else? Us.

It was certain parts on it I thought that he missed on. I thought he was trying to overcomplicate it, but I think he's the best director right now to potentially direct it. Because the other ones, like, I don't know. I guess it's some type of trust issue. Mercia Ali don't trust them. or if it's foggy or wet, but I'm trusting if Jordan Peele is going to do the movie, I'm trusting that the movie is going to get done.

I mean, I've been weighing on seeing some new blade ever since sticky fingers of Blade series went off. Oh, yeah, the TV series. That was great. Yeah, yeah. Wow, great, Lance. I loved it. I loved it, man, at the time. I was smoking a lot of weed at the time, too, so that might have helped. Yeah, yeah.

I definitely enjoyed that show. Why to hell, thinking of the guy from Onyx was a good blade. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. Yeah, they say Sticky Fingers Blade is suspected to make a cameo in the Wolverine and Deadpool. Good. So Wolverine can kill him. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Exactly. All right, Tavaris. So what's your cool of the week? What's the best thing that you've checked out this week? Let's see. We started season three of Sweet 2 on Netflix. Yes. I like that.

Okay. Yeah, so we finished the first episode. So we started that earlier this week. Big fan of that show. I wasn't familiar with the books prior to watching the show. But I like it. You know, I'm always down for a good sci-fi series, you know. And it's one of those shows where it's like it has just, it's, I don't know, to me it feels like kind of like a kid show, but it has enough suspense to where it's like, even if you're an adult, you know, you kind of feel bad for characters in certain situations and stuff.

Has that apocalyptic vibe to it, kind of like the movies we're talking about today. And let me see. been watching that and we just finished watching it's a show called um Jurassic Park Chaos Theory or Netflix it's an animated one yeah oh okay I think I heard about this yeah yeah it's a continuation of the Camp Cretaceous series um the characters they aged them up by about six or seven years so they're pretty much young adults right now okay so um so it I mean it's real good I mean that show right there. I love the animation of it. I love the voice acting of it. Some of the voice actors had returned. If they have the same ones, they didn't change how they voice it sound. But it's a real

good show. You know, got a good level of action. Of course, they're going to have some drama to it and stuff. But I think it's a real good representation as a spinoff for the whole Jurassic Park series. You know, so that's, those are my cool other weeks right there. All right, that's some good ones. Netflix stuff. Yeah. Well, I'll jump in because the only thing I can think of that I actually watched was on Netflix, and it was yesterday.

That Beatles movie? Oh, okay. Is it a documentary or? No, no, no. It's like an indie movie. British guy and he Yes, I've seen this. Yeah, he wakes up one day in the

in an alternate, he gets in like a car accident or something. I can't remember. And wakes up and the Beatles don't exist. And so he writes his own little Beatles songs and... Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Oh, wow. It's fun. It's cute. It's cute movie. I've seen it before. So he's ripping off the Beatles, but nobody knows he is, right? Yeah, there's like two people that are like standing in the background

with a yellow submarine and they're like, who is your biggest influence? John Paul, Ringo, or John? And he's like, oh, shit. Yeah, uh-oh, that's a good. Oh, man. All right. But, yeah, it's a feel-good movie.

It's a feel-good movie. I checked out one. You guys have heard of this movie that came out last year. I really haven't heard of it. I saw somebody posted it on Facebook. It's called What You Wish for. Does it ring a bell?

at all? That title sounds familiar. Yeah, it sounds familiar. It's got Nick Stahl in it. I've seen him and some other stuff and a few people you really haven't seen before. But I think I don't want to give too much away because there's a big plot twist. It's it's about a guy that has like a lot of gambling debt and he ends up taking over the persona of someone else to kind of get away from the people that that he owes money to and gets in over his head. I think it's probably, I'd say it's set in the Fresh Universe. You guys remember that movie Fresh? Oh yeah. Winter Soldier in it. And that's

all I'll say, because I probably just gave too much away by saying that, but it was interesting. I watched it last night. I didn't know anything about what to expect. I went in blind. As one of the trailers tonight suggest you do, two-thirds of the way through the fucking trailer, they say,

going blind, because they've already given everything away. I am glad I went into this one blind, but what you wish for, I don't never really heard of it. I saw somebody post posted on Facebook and I'm glad I saw it. It's a good one. Yeah. What you got, Brian? He's kind of making like a little quiet comeback, Nick Stahl. Yeah, he was good in this one, man.

It's going to be in a lot of... Nick Stahl, is that the guy who played John Connor in the third movie? Yeah. Gotcha. Okay, yeah, it's been a while since I've seen him in anything. Yeah, I think he had some issues and kind of went away for a while. But I've seen him popping up in a lot of indie stuff lately. Okay. Yeah. It's worth to watch.

I know it's out there. I don't know if it's streaming anywhere, but it's out there. Now, you said it's in the fresh universe. Fresh, is that the movie where, you said, Winter Soldier, that's the movie where he was picking up chicks at the Gruff store. That's the one. That's the one. Okay, gotcha.

It seems to be the same, I'm thinking about the same click. You first said Fresh, I was thinking about the movie with Samuel Jackson. They came out like in the 90s. No, this was the newer one. The one from a couple of years ago. Oh, Tavares, you're talking about had a young Gene Carlo Esposito.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and Samuel Jackson was like The kid's dad. Yeah, yeah. He was like, I'll beat anybody. You put that motherfucking clock on it. Put that clock on their ass, I eat them up. Okay.

Not that fresh. Not that fresh. This is like the cabal of super rich, that have a taste for a certain type of meat. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Which we'll talk about today. All right, I only got two this week, and they are both trailers that we've reviewed

in the past few months. Okay. First is trim season, the one where the group of people go to about the broke lance the killer weed killer weed movie it's not necessarily the big

it's decently acted it looks it looks well directed the big problem is it doesn't explain anything like I think we were kind of coming up with theories that the main lady in the movie is a witch or something like that

yep Yep. I left the movie not understanding what she was or what her purpose was. Uh-oh. And that really kind of irritated me by the end of the movie. Brian, you would have been better off with Killer Bomb, man. Yeah, because you definitely know what that movie is. So I can't necessarily say I recommend this one.

It does have a few people. Alex Esso, she was in Starry Eyes and Dr. Salih. Oh, okay. One of the other actresses, Lance, you remember Hellfest? Oh, absolutely, yeah. The little short girl with the short hair? She was like the big horror fan of the group that was like super psyched to go to Hellfest. I think, isn't that who Nas met at a, at one of the,

the horror convention a couple years ago but i think i think the correct pronoun is they brian at this time i'm still so be cool but yeah i know exactly you're talking about not that's a good that's it's it's pretty good cast then man yeah it it just the reason i can't recommend it because it has some cool ideas it just it doesn't give you enough to just kind of okay i i know what's going on i'm just like what is the motivation of the the the the the the the the the the the villain and what is she and what does the plant do and camera they'll make us maybe they'll make a sequel and explain it right maybe they shouldn't maybe they were stoned when they wrote it and my second movie i watched this week is i saw the tv glow a 24 oh i can't wait to see that man beautiful visuals in

this. Okay. But again, maybe I'm just slow this week. I have no idea what this movie's about or what it's trying to say. It's an 824 movies, so.

Yeah, it's super, Lance, I think you'll enjoy this one more than me. It's real artsy. It's a slow burn. When you get to the trippy visuals, they are trippy, and it kind of leaves you wondering, like, is

the show they're watching real or not. This is what I'm looking forward to. Yeah, I honestly, it is my cool of the week just based on the direction and the visuals. But I think. Oh, Fred Durst is in that one. Yeah. No. I did not.

Jesus. I did not recognize him. Red Dirt's from Lipiscuit. Oh, really? Oh, okay. So does John Travolta show up to then, or what? No, he had to, he had to poo. I did not know Fred Durs was in this, even, not until the credits rolled.

And it said Fred Durson, I had to be like, he was in this movie. And then he was like, I'm not going to say who he was. And I was like, oh, he must have been that character. Ah, okay. Was he animated, Brian? Can you give that much away? No, he's a lot person. Okay.

At least I think it's the character I'm thinking he was. Okay. Yeah, I'm excited. I've heard good things about this one. Yeah, it's well acted. It's just I just didn't know what was happening. Or maybe that's what the movie's supposed to make you feel like because the characters watch this TV show and things start to happen so you don't know if the TV show is coming alive and sucking them in or is it just.

in his mind and his hallucinations. So. Okay. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. Yeah. I'm really, like I said,

I think you like it better than I did, Lance. So I'm interested to hear what your thoughts are. You'll be hearing next week. All right. That's all I got for this week. All right, Brian.

Well, do you have any news for us this week? Are we finally starting to have some stories besides believe? I think we were... I was going to jump in on the Blade News. Another rumor movie that he's supposed to be doing that Marvel talked to him about was the X-Men movie. Jordan Peele? Yeah.

Oh. What the fuck? Okay. I don't know, though. I like Tvaris' thing about the... When he was bitten deal. That's kind of... Yeah, you've solved me. I can't make sense of October 23rd, 2026 with X-Men.

I don't know how to apply that. Yeah, I think their big problem with that movie is they're trying to connect it too much to the MCU instead of just trying to make a good movie. That's why they lost so many writers and directors. Nobody wants to lose years on their career waiting on one thing to happen. Exactly, exactly. Because I think even Marshall Ali's lawyer spoke out and said this was the craziest thing he's ever seen in his career. I don't disagree. I don't disagree.

Because he's been attached to that movie since the San Diego Comic Con back in 2019. Academy Award winner. Two-time. No less. Yeah, no shit. Yeah.

It's like, come on, man. Wow. Well, and great choice, but I can see why the director would have quit if they haven't even let them start filming yet. Yeah, because they keep doing rewrites and hiring

new writers and nobody wants to sit around and just wait. Yeah. This does not. Oh, well. I heard Delroy Lindo today, he's no longer a part of the movie now. So, I don't know if he quit or they let him go or what. Well, he's getting, I was about to say he's getting up there in age and I'm sure he wants to do other things in his career. He's not going to just sit around for years.

Exactly. But they have, what's the young lady named? That's the star of the, what's that movie? It's called Triple X. Well, not Triple X. It's called X. Yeah. They got like a trilogy going on.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's in it. She's still attached to it. Okay. She's still attached to it. I think she's still attached to it because she's doing things right now. So it's not like it's hurting her career. Right.

Yeah. All right. Let's see what we got here. some Megan news uh, Matherigan. Good old Mithrigan. Lumhouse announced a new

movie called Soulmate spelled with the eight in it that will expand the megan universe. We're expanding the universe before the sequel even comes out. Okay. I like that movie.

Although like Some kind of, I think we all liked it. I mean, it sounds like it's going to be like her. You know, like some sort of AI dating thing that goes to say it by. Oh, no. Don't say that, Philip. Well, that's actually kind of a smart idea because she did tap herself into the internet at the end. So she could be just be popping up on people's apps.

Okay. I guess I could see that. Better hurry out and bring out the movie before we have it for real, Megan. Yeah, actually, I don't think... For real. See, I think they gave a release date on Soulmate, and that is January 2nd, 2026. So actually, that's a year after the sequel comes out. Okay.

Okay. Do you guys know who Michael Churness is? He was in Orange's New Black. He was the Tinkerer in Spider-Man. I know who Michael Chickles is. I'm not sure of this other guy. Is he the mustache guy? He has a mustache.

He has a beard. Okay. Long hair. He was the main character's brother in Orange and New Black. The kind of a lazy, unemployed brother. Hmm. What's his name?

Michael. Churness. Churness? Churness. I guess that sounds vaguely familiar. He is set to star in Peacock's limited series John Wend Casey, The Devil in Disguise. I like it. Give me a John Wayne Gacy movie.

Okay, I got you. It'll have a lot of viewers, that's for sure. Heavy set dude with a beard. He looks like he could be John Wayne Gacy. Could he? Yeah, just cut his hair, shave his beard. Yeah. Put him in a clown suit.

Oh, man. let's see Brian just wrote the movie that's what I'm here for I just need to get paid for it oh yeah oh yeah

Patrick Dempsey joins the cast of Showtime's Dexter original sin oh okay sure I don't know what that is it's the prequel series

to Dexter oh okay Christian Slater I think is already attached right yeah he's playing Dexter's father. So who's Dempsey going to be? The grandfather at this point or what? I don't know. If they said who's going to be. He's no free chicken anymore, man. I know there's a young shale in this or something. Like, how long is he going to be?

I think they're going to go with, you know, when they were doing the flashbacks to when he was just finding out his issues. Okay. Okay. they're going to expand upon that. All right. Yeah, that's a good cast. MCM Christian Slater. I hadn't seen Christmas later anything in a while. I heard he was really good and was it Mr. Robot?

Yeah, yeah. He played the imaginary father that wasn't really there because he died several years before, but. Spoilers. The dude kept seeing. Not really. It's like the third episode that they revealed that, man. he was in that

Jerry Seinfeld Pop-Tart movie he played the evil milkman oh yeah he was in there yeah he was like the milkman mob we got some news

on Shehawk herself Tatiana Miss Lonnie first she is going to be in Oz Perkins next movie title keeper this is he's going to start

working on this after the release of long legs Okay And then I like her She's cute She is set to star

In a pilot episode Of the new comedy horror series On Prime Called the Night Beast Hmm Okay I heard of that one I heard about that one

So Sounds like she's busy Uh You guys like SoC Bacon From the first smile movie Oh, you loved her. Loved her, man.

Yeah. Well, she is going to be in a horror movie directed by her mother and father. Oh, wow. Okay. Who's mom? Kyra Sedgwick. I don't know who she is. Okay.

Okay. I got you. Has Kevin Bacon directed anything before? Good question. I don't know. He was. pretty good at the Guardian. That's Kevin Beggie's wife, right?

Carverset. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. That's what Mike. That name sound familiar.

I'm not sure if he has directed, actually. Has he? Hmm. He was good in that Guardian's Christmas special. That was pretty fun. Yeah, yeah. He was. I remember he tried to bring back the Tremor's franchise.

That's right. He did. Yeah, they did. I don't know if he was directed in what, but I think he was produced in it. They was trying to do like a series, a couple years ago. Yeah, I think they filmed a pilot episode and released a little teaser trailer

and the teaser trailer looked real good. I remember that. We watched it, I think. Yeah, nobody wanted to pick it up, which I didn't understand. Look, the teaser by itself looked a hundred times better than any of the sequels.

For real. For real. Let's see, Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist movie gets a March 13th, 2026 release date. I'll watch anything he directs, but I don't get it.

Why more Exorcist movies? Is he just saying, look, I can do it where nobody else did, or what? It's more Exorcist movies because Blumhouse and Mill Creek entertainment paid hundreds of millions of dollars for this franchise,

so they need to get something on their return. Yes, I get it. And who better to hire? So is this going to be a sequel to the previous one? No. The smart thing they did first before they announced Mike Flanagan was to say that the sequel to Exorcist Believer was canceled. Okay. And then they announced Mike Flanagan doing this movie to just basically letting everybody know this is a fresh new thing that he is not only directed, but he's also writing. Okay. Okay. Did he direct the previously?

No. It's Lance's favorite director. director David Gordon Green. Oh, oh, thank. The Pineapple Express group, man. Yeah, man. He messed up Michael Myers. She said it had Michael Myers smoking the Pineapple Express. That would have been better, huh?

For real, man. And he said, and stop killing people. Yeah. Can't we all just get along? I've seen a few people get upset with this release day, which I'm perfectly fine for. If he's writing it, let him take his time to create something fresh and new.

They should have let him take it as a TV series. Or they should have just let the TV series continue because the TV series was fantastic. It actually was pretty good. Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed they canceled that one. Oh, they had an Exorcist TV series? Yeah. Yeah, had like two seasons. Okay, okay.

All right. I remember they had a, I guess I'm thinking about, I think, they had a, didn't they have the Omen series or something like that? I think one season. Yeah. I don't remember anybody really talking about it though, so I don't know if it was good.

Micah Monroe was asked about what can we expect with the It Follows sequel, they follow. She said it's going to be bigger, darker, and more fucked up. Okay. I don't know that that movie needs a sequel. I know.

I'm thinking the same thing about Smile. after having just seen the trailer. Well, we were all down. We'll get to that trailer, but we were all down on that movie with the first movie's trailer. We all thought it was going to be movie. Yeah. Let's see.

Do you guys remember we were reviewed in 1981's possession with Sam Neal? Vaguely. We need that spreadsheet. One of us has to do it. Okay. I think I passed it. Well, it's getting

Sam Neal. It's getting a... The one where the chick was doing it with like a squid or some kind of weird. Oh, I remember. Okay. I remember that. It was like some sort of...

Japanese animation. Yeah, it was a series on AMC that they would do every Halloween where it's like they'll have, they'll talk about like one episode, it's like a documentary. One episode, they'll talk about slashes, and they'll have, like, different directors and actors.

And in this one here, I think it was on the topic of possession, I think. And I don't remember seeing the whole movie. I remember seeing scenes of it when I was a kid, but I never knew the name. And then when they showed that clip, and I was like, oh, I remember that in the movie, but I had no idea the name of the movie until a couple years ago when they said it was called The Possession and stuff.

But, yeah, I remember that scene. That was pretty creepy right there, man. Pretty creepy. Well, it's getting a remake in Robert Pattinson. I don't know if he's in it, but as far as I know, he's producing it. Okay, okay. And I lost my picture. They said quite a few actors that have been, like, producing stuff, and then they're not in the movie at all.

Uh-huh. I'm surprised it took them this long to do a remake for that. You said it came out in 81? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised. It took them that long to do a remake or something like that. Let's see what else we got before we move on. You guys ever play Until Dawn?

Uh-uh. It's getting a film adaptation. And this is going to be directed by David Sandberg, who did Lights Out. could be good then okay I like that movie we talked about a couple weeks ago Stephen Spilberg's doing a as of now untitled UFO movie yes we did tell me

Emily Blunt is in talks to star okay is Spielberg directing or a producer yes directing okay all right that should be good I get a close Close encounter's sequel, Tavares. Yeah, exactly.

Everything seems... Everything seems super hush-hush about the plot and everything about this movie. Okay, okay. Okay, I trust Bill, but... Oh, yeah, always. Always. This is going to be the reveal for the public. They're going to have, like, real aliens.

Yeah. Oh, no. Best alien movie ever. That would be great. Let's see. M. Knight's Shyamalan's trap gets moved up a week to August 2nd.

Is he directing that? Yeah. Yeah, he's directed that one. Okay, okay. We shall see. Oh, it's better than the Watchers. Now that, you know what, after I'll re-listen to our review,

I'm just thinking about the movie. I really think, he interfered with the making of that movie. I think so too. I think so too. Have you seen that one tomorrow's? Oh no I haven't but is that that's the one that's the daughter directed? Mm. Okay. It really feels like he directed it. Yeah? Oh boy. Oh man. So let me guess it was a boy shit at the end or something like like like an April Fool's joke or something. Something like that. Yeah. Oh man he got it. hey, you know what? Maybe the daughter might be genetic.

The daughter inherited, man. You know? Maybe. That's how she tells stories, you know. Because what movie, it came like in 2009? Y'all ever seen that movie he produced called The Devil? Yeah, in the elevator. I like that one. I like that. Oh, yeah. And I remember, like a behind-the-scenes documentary on it or whatever. And he was saying that initially he wanted to direct it, but around. that time, people

was pretty pissed off on his work after the six six and stuff, you know? Okay. Yeah. Right. I think he might have gotten a writer's credit on here, but he didn't direct it. And he had

one of his, like, I guess, like a young prodigate that, you know, directed and he produced it because he said he didn't want his name to overshadow, like, how good the movie was going to be and stuff, you know? So I was like, okay.

okay all right but um and i'm like i can see why he did that because he initially i thought he had directed but um until i saw that i'm like okay i get why he didn't attach his name as the director because like yeah you say m night shamborland around the wrong people man they get pissed off i want my money back man you know so all right a few more things here um it's been revealed by uh screenshots of the upcoming Terror F3 that Jason Patrick is in the movie. Okay. Oh, okay.

Horror fans will probably know him best as Michael from the Lost Boys, the older brother. Mm-hmm. Okay. Why not? Why not? And I found the director's name for the possession remake. Okay.

It is Parker Finn. I don't know why. It took me a while to think. The director of Smile. Hmm. okay okay Lance this one's for you Zazi Beetz has signed

on the star in a new horror film called They Will Kill You All right This is produced Hopefully she's gonna be The final girl This is produced

By the mouchetties Andy and his sister Barbara For their new production company I have high helps For that one then Okay now this is where I get in a conspiracy

Oh, here we go. Jump into Lee Cronin, who directed Evil Dead Rise last year, has signed on to do a movie for Blumhouse and James Juan's Atomic Monster that's dated Hold on, hold on, Lance.

April 17th, 2026. Okay. It's an untitled movie. Anything coming out in 2025? You're just going to skip that year or what? Yeah. Seems like it. But he posted a screenshot of the cover of the script he's writing,

and he scratched out the name. I've been doing some deep dives. A lot of people think he's directing a new Nightmare on Elm Street movie. Oh. Because in his quotes that he was asked about the movie, he used words like nightmare new take on ancient evil okay

and why would you post the cover page to your script with the title scribbled out if it wasn't something big that you didn't want to reveal right now that's great okay maybe it's tied to that one

y'all watched a couple of weeks ago where philip actually watched the one where they brought the mummy back to life for a I got about 20 minutes into that, and I was like, man, this movie's awful. So there's a lot of rumors that because the Craven estate got the rights back to Nightmer on Elm Street, and they've been apparently taken hearing pitches for new movies. Okay, okay.

And another thing somebody pointed out was along with this Blumhouse deal, new line cinema is involved in it which of course everybody knows it's the house that Freddie built so is it going to be silly Freddie or serious Freddy right that's the question I know people are down on Blumhouse right now but you hire Lee Cronin

who I think did an excellent job of respecting the tone of the Evil Dead movies okay so I think I think he's a fan of horror and I think if he is doing the Nightmare on Elm Street

movie I think that's a good choice a new up-and-coming director that that knows what the fans want. Yeah. So. So Blumhouse

they own the rights of New Line? They own New Line now? No, I think even though the Craven is state got the rights back to shoot the movie rights itself i think new line still owns that okay okay good i think the only way new line wouldn't be involved that they made a nightmare on elm street series then they wouldn't be involved at all okay so so who had produced who had did the um

i didn't like that last that remade of i think new line i was terrible That was terrible. Jackie Earl Haley. Yeah, I did not like him as Freddie, man. He just looked annoying as hell. It's like I couldn't take him serious at all, you know. But, yeah, hopefully they got to get Freddie right, man. I think they could find a Nancy, you know, if they're going to do a reboot or whatever.

But, yeah, you got to get Freddie Cruebe right, man. You got to get that character right. Yeah, and I personally, I also thought it was real coincidence that around the time this news came out, Heather Lane and Cam was saying she wanted to return for one more movie. Yeah, coincidence. So. Yeah, I heard rumors about that after, you know, they was talking about doing it like how, how Jamie Lee Curtis did Halloween, 2018, where I think it just picks up after the first Halloween. movie. Okay.

But they were saying, well, had the Langdon Camp to return as Nancy, but it would pick up it'll just be a continued in a different timeline, but continuation of the first one. Yeah. The third one and, well, that the

seventh one she was in, New Nightmare. I was going to say, you can't write out Dream Warrior. Yeah, that's that's, that'll, I think that's a good idea, but at the same time, I think that'll piss a lot of people off. Yeah, yeah, it will.

It will. I can ignore the sequels and stuff, especially when they're decent sequel, you know, they're pretty good. Yeah. But I also heard that Robert England had an idea for a movie that would continue off of Dream Warriors.

Or word. Maybe they're going to go Halloween and go in like seven different directions, right? So they're going to ignore the Dreamchild? You can never do that. Lisa Wilcox is a friend of the show. Yeah. It's a boy.

Can't do that. All right. Last two things. Phil, you wanted something in 2025. The Welcome to Dairy series is coming to Max sometime in 2025. With penny wise, Philip. Yeah. Bill Scarsguard returning.

I like that and Lance will leave this one off for you little something you can watch with the wife Okay Practical Magic 2 Was Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman confirmed to return 80-octogenarian witches Is this gonna be like death becomes her part two or what

I mean come on Have Bruce Willis show up or what I don't know why and who asked for this movie, but it is happening, and like I said, Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman are confirmed to

come back for the sequel. Ugh. Oh, man. Kill me now. I feel like this is something that AJ would watch. Unfortunately, probably seven or eight times,

man. I think so. Which kind of means I'm going to watch it seven or eight times, Philip. It doesn't sound super exciting to me. Oh, man. He just had to do it, huh? Now's the time for another practical match.

I guess. That is the news. All right, Tavares. Come on with us, man. We're going down to the trailer park. Let's go. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.

What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? The first one is strange darling And the synopsis is One day, it takes place One day in the twisted love life Of the serial killer That's the whole synopsis So much

So much for going blind, huh? Then give it the whole fucking movie away In the first 30 seconds of the trailer In that description, Jesus Christ, man And this star is Willa Fitzgerald, Kyle Garner Which I really like him He's been in a lot of stuff lately.

I'm trying to think you that is. Kyle. Was he in that on Nightmared Amstreet reboot? Oh, God. Yeah, unfortunately he was. Yeah, okay. But since then, Tavares, he's been a lot of good things. All right.

Kyle. Barbara Hershey's in this also. Ed Bagley, Jr., directed and written by J.T. Molnar. We'll go with you, T.V. What'd you think? Um, yeah, the plot is nothing like, it's nothing that's based on what I saw in the trailer. It doesn't look like anything that's surprising, but it looked pretty intense. It looked like, you know, like you said, bad date gone, or good date gone bad or whatever and stuff.

And for me in the trailer, it's kind of hard for me to tell. There was a lady running like in an orange, look like a prison jumpsuit kind of the, And I was trying to figure out was that the same lady that was in the car with him in the beginning of the train. Yeah, it was one or the same thing. Yeah. But it kind of reminds me of, let me see, it's a movie I saw recently called Alone with his dude was stalking this lady where he kept saying that he needed help to jump his car or something. And because she didn't help him, so he decides to stalk her the whole freaking movie. Good movie.

that one. I remember that one. Yeah. But yeah, it looks pretty good. I mean, I'm going to check it out because, I mean, like I said, I've seen a whole bunch of movies and shows in the series where they got the dude or the woman, but they stalking somebody, you know, and it's like, what's so intriguing about those movies?

I kind of put myself in that situation, and it's like, okay, how would I get away from this person? You know, when I'm running, I'm going to run straight, I'm running a zigzag, you know. Ed Bagley Jr. It's not an alligator. Yeah. Well, you know, when you run it straight,

it's easy for them to shoot you. It's true. It's like you kind of zigzag. Hopefully they're not anticipating that, you know? All right, shit, stop dropping roll. Hopefully. Get back and run, you know. Dick Van Dyke.

Yeah, but whatever the characters, whoever Ed Bagley Jr. and Barbara Hershey is playing, you see those type of characters in all certain different type of horror movies that's suspense movies and it's like on the surface on the exterior they look like they're friendly people that they're going to help you.

But then sometimes shit, they end up being more crazy than the person that's coming after you. I can see that. Yeah. So, you know, and Ed Bagley Jr., to me, he can pull off something like that. So that's what intrigue me about this trailer.

But I'm looking forward to checking it out. I'm not familiar with the director who made it, but it looks pretty good. All right, Lance. Yeah, I'm curious, too. I got to tell you, when it said, going blind, and like I said, they've shown a lot by then, I'm like,

can't go in too blind. We already know it's a serial killer. I mean, they hint at it at the beginning. I kind of wish they left it at that, but it was interesting hearing her, like, in the car with the gun, and talking about how it's different for a woman. You know, you've got to be careful, especially on dates or when you're out by yourself or something like that.

And you know, I wouldn't want to think of like, you know, my granddaughter's out traipsing across Europe backpacking or something alone, right? So it is a different world for them. So it could be interesting. I do like that scene in the trailer though when she was like, are you a serial killer? And then you just slowly see the expression on his face change. Like, why would you ask that?

That was, yeah. What do you know? A little too close to home maybe, huh? Phil? Yeah, I mean, I didn't get a whole lot from the trailer, but it looks like it's going to be interesting. Although it's kind of a red flag that it was like from the producers of...

Yeah, I know. I hate it. Whatever else it had. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, mm, from the producers doesn't really mean it. Barbarian, whatever, yeah. The same people paid for it? I don't care. Same people paid for it. Same people paid for it. Yeah.

But, yeah, it looks. interesting yeah I think just off of me seeing what Kyle Gawgall I think I said his name wrong I think it's Gawner okay seeing what he's done in the last couple movies I've seen him in he's pretty good actor and there there is a scene in the trailer where it looks like Barbara Hershey and Ed Bagley Jr. might be as Tavares said not who they seem to be oh this was the guy from this was the guy from smile yeah he was the cop the cop oh now i know okay okay i got it i got it yeah he did you guys ever see this movie uh he did i think it came out last year called passenger uh the the poster looks really familiar actually

where he he works at like a uh a fast food place and then he sees one of the employees picking on another one and then he just goes to his car gets a shotgun and blows the guy away I am going to be watching it now. Yeah, the movie just goes on from there. Looks good. Looks good. All right. I'm all in. The cast is labeled, it's got Willa Fitzgerald labeled as the lady, and Kyle Gawner labeled as the demon. Oh, wow.

Okay, cool. I'm in. They don't even have names. That's original. That's original. All right. Strange Darling comes out August, 23rd.

I wonder if he's like a... Of this year? Yes. Okay. Not 2026, Philip. Nope. And... Giovanni Rubisi's in this.

What's that? Giovanni Rubisi's in this. Oh, shit. He can play... If he's in this, he's playing something weird. Oh, yeah. That's his... You think? All right. Our second and final

trailer is another movie that comes out this year. Not 2020. That is Smile 2. This stars. Rosemary DeWitt, Kyle Garner again. No, Naomi Scott, Lucas Gage. Those are only bigger names I noticed.

Parker Finn is... Wait to see how long you kept up the smile, Land. Parker Finn is back to direct and right. Oh, okay, cool, cool. I'm all in then. I'm all in because I like the premise of her being, from what I understand, she's not only like a pop star, but she's also a recovering addict. So you've got all this scenarios.

More trauma. You've got all these scenarios that can pop up. Her being famous. Everybody's always smiling at her, so she don't know who or what to trust. And then you add in the recovering attic part, you know, she might not even, she might even think she's hallucinating. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay.

The little girl at the end of the commercial, man. Oh, yeah. I think when we watch the movies, she's not even the thing. She's just a fan, a weird fan. Maybe. Could be? Could very well be. Or she played too many hours of guerrilla.

bag, fellow. And another thing I like, I like the viral marketing they're doing, because she plays, of course, like I said, she plays a singer named Sky Riley. Already has her own, the character

already has our own social media pages and website and everything, billboards. Like it's a real person. Yeah. They really know how to advertise the name marketing right there. Yeah. And I'm going to assume pretty soon at like sports events, we're going to get the people again standing behind the commentator smiling like they did.

I think it was at a baseball game. It's going to be concerts this time, Brian. People are going to be stoned out of their mind looking around it. They should have did one. What's his name? What's his name? Had a pop-up show last night. Kendrick.

Oh, that would have been. been perfect. Oh, yeah. Should have just had some random person smiling at the camera. Just smiling through the hole. I like the girl's flashing out. They had the girls flashing out. That was way better then.

What did you think, tomorrow? Oh, man, I like the trailer. The first smile movie, and I'm seeing this trailer, it's one of those movies. Sometimes I watch a trailer or a movie. I'll be like, damn. Why didn't I think of that?

you know what I'm saying? Because I think they can make shit, I think it's like what 12 or 13 saw movies? I think they can get up in the double digits in sequels with this because it's so much you can do with it. You know, like I said, in the trailer,

the main character, she's a pop star and she has a previous drinking problem. So in the universe of the movie, you're going to have people around her who's probably not going to believe her whatever she's seeing because they're going to be like, okay, you own drugs again or have you been drinking again or treated like Nightmare Amstreet style where the parents say, oh, just get some sleep, you'll be fine.

Right. Yeah, and you're also going to have, you're going to have those. You're also going to have those people that are just, they only care about her career. So they're like, oh, yeah, you probably just, it was probably just in your mind. You know, you got to get ready. for the show or you got to get a little studio and yeah enablers hey here take you take the bile of this exactly and the enablers what are they always doing smiling smiling smile right that's right you know like i i think the most creepiest part of that trailer was it looks like she was standing at her looked like she was like in the lobby i don't know if there's like an autograph session or what but it's like The little girl in the pink dress It looks like she's about eight, nine years old Just smiling and walking

Straight to her and stuff. And I'm like, what the hell is her security, man? It's our security. Like, you can't get that close to Taylor Swift. You know what I'm saying? You can't get that close to Beyonce or, you know? So that's what I'm like...

I thought about that scene. I think it's going to be a moment in the movie where she's just really freaking out and then she just kind of runs and that's where she ends up. It's just a little odd. You got this major pop star in the lobby and nobody is running up to her.

Maybe it's not really happening like that. She ran away from a bad situation. That's possible. Yeah, that makes sense. That's possible. But, you know, it's so much that they can do with these movies. I mean, the first one, like, it straight creeped me out because for me,

I was traumatized as a kid after watching it, Tim Curry as Pennywise, because I was cool with clowns. I was cool with mozo, Krusty, and Ronald McDonald, and, like, because I had to be about seven or eight years old when that came out, and it's like, prior to that, I'm thinking clowns are friendly. They're always smiling.

Even John Wayne Gacy? Well, see, at that time, man, I ain't know who John Wayne Gacy was. I ain't know who he was. Yeah. But after that, man, it's like anytime, like, if there's a person I know and they always smiling and I never see them do a different facial expression, I kind of steer away from. I was like, yeah, man. Yeah, I don't trust that.

I don't trust people who's somebody who walks around with a mean, angry face more than somebody that's just smiling all the time. And so we would watch that, when me and my wife watched the first one, and she let these people get too close to her. And I'm like, I would rather have Freddie Cougar or Jason chasing me in my dreams than somebody slowly and coming up to me and just smiling

and I can't get them away. Jesus Christ. That's a nightmare. Yeah, it is. So this trend here, I'm like, dang, man, I feel for this lady because that's part of her job to sign autographs, interact with fans and all of that. So you never know who to trust. So I'm looking forward to seeing this. It looks like the same director who did the first one is doing this one, right?

Yeah. Okay, awesome. Okay, because I hate it in franchises when they go away from a good director. They switch it. Yeah. Yeah. Bring in Rennie Harlan or... Brinian who?

Rennie Harlan? Who's Rennie Harlan? Didn't he do that, the Dream Child? Which one was? He did like the fourth one, right? And then didn't they just do that Strangers Chapter 1, right? Yeah, which you didn't even watch. Not yet, Brian.

I will. I will. We all went to. Was that any good? No. We all went together. that together and Lance missed out. Hey, I watched the watchers.

Oh, man. Was it better than The Strangers, too? I like The Strangers, too, so no. Okay, okay. Everybody seems to be saying it's basically just a remake of the original movie. It's the same thing, Toboros, as the first one, just tamer.

But, like, some of the exact same scenes that were in the first one. Wow. But the original director didn't do it. No. Okay. But I think this one starts a new trilogy, so they just set the stage for it or something. I don't know.

Which is, yeah, it was basically remake. Which is weird. You're doing, you are, you filmed all three trilogies, all three movies in the trilogy back to back, and you started off with something somebody's already seen. You're not, you're not pulling in. A literal movie? Yeah. Oh, well, they was very confident.

that they filmed all the That's why that's why I am interested in the second one because you guys were like you said super confident to put out this shot for shot basically a shot for shot remake so you must be confident in the rest of the trilogy or

I don't know we'll see. That's wild. That's wild. But yeah, hey man don't need a shovel to dig the Smile 2 trainer man so I like it. I like this.

All right. This comes out in theaters, October 18th, 2026. No, I'm just joking this year. Damn, we're never going to see any movies. Yeah. And that's it for the trailers. All right. On to some listener feedback.

This week, we shine the podcast spotlight on Frye Gay the 13th Frye Gay the 13th horror podcast explores horror in real life and in the movies from an LGBT perspective horror films aren't just an escape

we believe they're a mirror to the horrors we face in real life and our show offers strong opinions for our audience to consider and engage with check out Frye Gay the 13th In regards to Bigfoot Exorcist. What?

It is a movie. Steve Carlton says, Holy shit looks like a gym. Marcy Papandria says, I think we need to see this. Bede says, that's a yes for me. Oh my God.

Our favorite Jessa Flux is in it. We have to do it now. And Colin Kirsten says, yep. Jessiflux is very easy on the eyes. And there you go. And I believe she's in our Facebook group. Oh, nice. Well, the Aussies are in it, into it.

So Bigfoot Exorcist. Let's check it out. And Steve, Steve says it's a gem, so. Yeah. Sounds amazing. How can you go wrong? In regards to the Beastmaster, Zem Vader, says, is this the one with lanky Jason in it? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means either.

In regards to Friday the 13th, the final chapter poster, Lance says, for some reason, I'm only thinking of the Ninja Turtles. And Zim Vader says, holy Jesus jumping Christmas shit. Oh, wow. Have you seen that artwork that Steve Carlton did with the Ninja Turtles and the Glover? yeah yeah I haven't seen that Tim Davis Tim Davis says for your little

mascot I thought of a name in honor of Lance Lance Laneford's obsession with Dane Dahan why not call him Dane da Ha I think we've already named Jasper Jenkins is that it yeah but Jane to Haunted I like that's a good that's a good that's a good name

Yeah. That's great, man. We should have had that from the beginning. Food for thought. Anyway, love the show. Much love. All right. Thanks. Thanks, Tim. In regards to Friday the 13th, Part 2, Don Lowry says lots of interesting things behind the scenes in this one. There's at least two alternate endings. There was no lake. It was a spot they just flooded. and is noticeable if you pay attention to it. A disco theme song with lots of cocaine consumed was coming to finish up film on time

or do a lot of work quickly and no time to sleep. And why so many celebrities became addicts at the time as well as the staff. Oh, well, there you go. Wow. There's an X-unrated version available on VHS. in Holland.

Jason actually died. Yeah, from Holland. Jason actually dies in one of the alternate endings. So there's an uncut footage out there, even on YouTube that are awesome. This film was far bloodier originally. You even get to see Shelley's demise in the unrated or X-rated cut and all the gore.

The first three films in particular are much better, with the majority of scenes left intact. They were far more violent as well, same scenes, just very trimmed down to make it faster or to cut the very realistic amount of blood. However, it would have been extremely shocking at the time and was a must to even have the films make it past sensors.

Oh, we got some X-rated Friday of the 13th movies out there. Nice facts. You would expect them to go. Unlike the porn parrower, that Tim reviewed one time on a horror for dummies. The Freddie Krueger porn parody where they're like dicks on his fingers and stuff. Dildo hands.

Zim Vader says he didn't understand the ending. Well, good thing. There's a lot of alternate endings. Right. In regards to long legs, Gabriella Becos says, now they are saying, scariest movie of the decade.

Scariest of the year is not even enough anymore. Yeah, we'll see. We shall see. In regards to Salem Lott, Salem's Lott, Mark Pierce says, if and when this comes out, it better be good. 79 version was epic. Please don't wreck it. Just do justice as a Salem's Lott fan.

In regards to Godzilla minus 1 Christina Ruzuto says, I saw the black and white version, the color gives it no justice. I didn't even know there was a black and white version. Yeah, they re-released it in black and white, the theaters. Oh, okay. In regards to Doomsday, Karen Dunnett, says apart from the geography being all over the place,

doomsday wasn't bad. not great but not the worst James Walmack says Spoilers James Walmack says I wanted to like this movie I really did

well at least I had a good villain That's true Let's see In regards to Our advice to check out The Movie Homework podcast Colin Breastler says I will It looks great

Cool Yeah Hellraiser Bon Blade says Clive Barker's Hellraiser is a horror classic. The design of Pennhead and the Cinebites is so iconic. Teddy Spagg says one of the greatest antagonists in movie history. True. We get a lot of Clive Barker love from our fans, don't we?

Supposedly he came up with the idea of that movie after he visited like an Essend, M Club or something. No. Yeah, I've heard that. Guess shouldn't surprise me. In regards to AMC's new Talamaska series. Oh, I could have put that in the news.

Judah Riley Sazek says, Brilliant. The more of Anne Rice's books and the world brought to life, the better. Have you read that one, Lance? Okay, so the Talamaska are, I don't think there's an actual book series, but they're like a group of people who follow, you know, different occult things.

Like, they're aware of the vampires. They're aware of the witches and things like that in the universe. But they're basically like an ancient group that has been studying them. So they're regular humans, but they study the vampires, witches, and occult things like that. And, you know, obviously they, you know, they keep collections of different items and artifacts and things of that nature. So they're more of like a knowledge group. They kind of like keep the knowledge. Kind of like Ed and Lorraine Warren. Kind of like Ed and Lorraine Warren,

maybe a little bit more of a detective bent to it. I could see it going that way. This one may be more of like a, might be more of a mystery of the week type series than the Vampire Chronicles of the Mayfair witches, but we'll see. You think this will be, what's my question,

a full, a long-form series, or limited series. I think it could go either way. I mean, I guess it depends on how well it performs. But, yeah, again, like I said, there's not actual books dedicated to them. So it'd be interesting to see what they do with it.

Like supernatural. Yeah, supernatural. Supernatural detective agency. Let's see. In regards to Saw, Zem Vader says, if we could just remove jigsaw and spiral from existence, it would be a flawless franchise. You can have. Biggs words. Can you?

You can go to your collection, take them out, put them somewhere else, slide the rest together, and there you go. Problem solved. Problem solved. Spiral had Chris Rock in it. Why would you want to remove that? And the pig mask. Remember the pig mask? Yeah, exactly. In regards to Death Sonata, Tiff Hubbard says, where can you watch this one? Does anybody know? As soon as it's released, I will 100% post it on all our social media accounts.

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So check that out. On two featured attractions. It's the end of the world as we know it. And how do we feel after seeing these movies? Let's find out. We'll start with Doomsday from 2008. This is the end of the world! It was an epidemic unlike any other.

Within days, millions were infected. Within weeks, they were forced together. Containment is our absolute priority. Lockade all bridges, streets, and rail links. And then left to die. But 25 years after the outbreak. It's the virus. It's back.

Containment has failed. What the hell are we going to do? We're about to show you it's highly confidential. So faring for us? Inside the heart zone. And after our survivors, there must be a cure. You're going out there. If there's such a thing as hell on Earth, that's it.

I know what we're looking for. If it's a futuristic action thriller where a team of people work to prevent a disaster threatening the future of the human race. Director and writer is Neil Marshall, also known for the descent and dog soldiers. We've covered a lot of his movies. Yeah.

Despite having many dangerous choreographs stunts, only two went wrong. A motorcycle rider was dragged when he was meant to hold a safely aside. He was not injured. And another was the man who saw punches in the face on the train

platform. On the second take of the scene, the stuntman's nose was broken. Oh. Ouch. Ouch. So, Maris, what do you think about Doomsday? Well,

I got a confession. When I saw Doomsday, I was thinking about Ghost of Mars for some reason. I love that movie. Yeah, yeah. With Ice Cube in there.

Okay, that's what I thought that was. Ice Cube. Jason Statham. Wow. Yeah, I haven't seen this one. That went in a while. So that's what I was thinking about. Because as the movie started, I'm like, hold up.

I don't remember Ghost. I don't remember Doomsday starring like this, but this means still think it's Ghost of Mars. And then I'm like, oh, then once I saw, I sure I pronounce my name right, Rona Mitra. Once I saw her, I'm like, oh, okay. I remember this one.

Is that the shit all over her face? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, she was the one, she's on her main hero. She had a bad eye, you know. I got you. She was the, um, she was the, the main protagonist. But speaking of the chick who had to paint over her face, like, when I, when I, I remember first watching the trailer and you see in the poster, you got one chick with the paint on her face and you got Ronamitra's character.

And I'm like, okay. feeling and protagonists. I'm thinking eventually I'm going to see some badass fighting scene between them at the end and then

they had their little scuffle in the middle and Junimitra character just straight up handled her like nothing. And I'm like... Yeah. That's a good way to describe it

that they had a scuffle. A scuffle. A misunderstanding. Yeah, because I'm like, oh, she'd break out of her cell. Oh, oh, they bought the lock. And I'm like, okay. And then I'm like, that was it.

Like, that was it. Like, man, that felt, the feeling I got from that, that was like watching the, um, the Tyson and Bruce Seldon fight. Where he ended him in like, what, 15 seconds? You know? I'm like, she straight up, bodyed her like she was a freaking foot soldier, man.

You know? So that's what I was like, damn, that was disappointing. But, um, man, this, this movie here, Like, it, let me see what I put on my notes here. I had, it, it, like, I've seen many movies where they have the apocalyptic theme like this and stuff. But to me, like, I think, I don't know, maybe they didn't do a good job with the actors they pick or they just did execute it properly. But in the movie, I was actually rooting for the cannibals.

because not think about it because like they became cannibals because of what the other people did to them you know what I'm saying? They didn't let them through the gates but they said hey fuck it y'all fend for yourself

you know they didn't send any aid and relief to them send no money no help whatsoever to these people they might have even they might have even spread to the virus a lot of in the opening scene when they're just spraying bullets splashing blood

all over people's faces. Exactly. Not a good idea? Yeah, like, it's bad enough you shutting these people out. Now you're just playing target practice with them. I'm like, come on, man. That shit never ends well in the movie. And it makes me think, like,

the people, the actual characters within the movie, it's like, so y'all never saw a movie or read a book about this type of stuff? You know what I'm saying? It doesn't end for y'all in the end. Yeah. You know what I?

So they didn't go over to the other side until, oh, I think we have a cure because we got people on our side that's getting sick. It's like, oh, now you want to come over their side. Now we're ready, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, like, they're defending their territory. That's the way I looked at it. So, but I was like, man. But Volimitra's character, I felt like, to me, it took too long.

in the movie to see like what type of badass she is like what she can do or not and it's like I remember when she I think might be wrong but I think she started this after she did the um

the underworld movie the underworld prequel yeah okay I was gonna say because when I first saw her I was like oh this is like not Kate Beaconsale yeah not exactly exactly exactly

So, you know, I'm thinking, like, I liked her in the underworld movie. So I'm thinking, all right, she in this movie. She gained another vehicle for her to become like a big time female action star. But I don't know. I didn't like a lot of her action scenes. I felt like they could have done better. The director, I believe it's Neil Marshall. Is that his name, Neil Marshall?

Yep, yep. I enjoyed the descent. I love that movie. Yeah, great. movie and I love dogs like I love those two movies those two dogs soldiers had like a two million dollar budget and um the dissent had like a four million dollar budget I don't know if I've ever seen awesome mooters I think we reviewed it on here yeah we've reviewed it it's about it's about the soldiers that turn into werewolves the Scottish age okay the dude

the dude that doesn't exist But yeah, man, you know, um, got a bigger budget, 17 mil, and when I watch it, it kind of feels like a, like a sci-fi movie.

Okay. It doesn't feel like a theatrical release. You know what I'm saying? This movie was released in theaters. I mean, you know, you had the, but that's kind of,

that's kind of, that's kind of the charm of it, don't you think? I mean, like, it paid homage to all these different, different genres of film, right? And it, and it,

and it got them all into one movie. And it kind of made you feel like you were like in an 80s Mad Max type movie. And then all of a sudden you were in Excalibur. And I don't know. I thought it was kind of charming. I kind of liked that. But it did not feel like you said $17 million. It did not feel like the $17 million movie.

And see, I recognize the intent of it. You know, because it does have the Mad Max vibe, especially like in the car chase scenes. I kind of got like Residence. and evil vibes. Like, you know, but I just felt like it wasn't executed properly for it to have a $17 million budget, you know? And it got me thinking, like, Neil Marshall, I felt like, you know what?

I think the young lady who played Juno in the descent movie, I felt like she, I felt like like she would have killed this role. Maybe a better choice, huh? Yeah, because in that movie, I love the action scenes in that movie. You know, all of those women, women were badass in that movie, you know? And it didn't seem like the same type of fight choreography in this movie here. Okay. But, I mean, it, to me, it lacked heart.

I mean, but, you know, it's a okay watch. But I see why I haven't seen this movie since 2008. It's like, okay. Now I remember, like, you know. Or the Blade TV series, huh? Yeah, yeah. But, hey, man, even the Blade TV series wasn't that bad, man. You know, no, man.

But, you know, that's, I'll give it my score after y'all give y'all, if y'all reeled it. All right. Brian, what do you think? I actually liked this one. I remember seeing in the theater when it first came out. Wow. Okay. I'm a big fan of Rona Mietra.

I do agree it takes a while for you to see how bad ass. she is you you get moments up until then but you don't really get to see it until she has her how'd you put it tomorrow scuffle with the chick on the poster but that is probably disappointing you put this she has a unique look in the movie and you put her on the poster so you obviously think this is the bad guy or at least number one henchman she she looked like she was out of a Clyde Barker movie

right? And then they have their little yeah they have their little fight scene which lasts maybe two minutes and she gets her head chopped off scene over and then you don't really get a big

badass scene from her until she ends making Malcolm McDow which we didn't even bring him up he pops up in the movie they go to his castle because his people retreat into the castle and her

like living back in the medieval times. And she fights the night. I wanted to see more of that throughout the movie. I can't see that, yeah. Why the fuck is there a night? A little bit of a fallout vibe there, right?

Yeah, I mean, I was after this, but... I get what they're trying to do. They're Malcolm McDowell's people. They've just abandoned the quote-unquote

new ways or something and just took everybody back everything back to basics sure sure but I don't know you necessarily have to change the way you talk and we're like we're far up though who is that main bad guy that was David O'Hara

he's been in a lot of stuff yeah he did a good job yeah he always plays that cut type of character yeah he's fucking nuts and then rest of peace no oh you're talking about the well the government guy

yeah the corporate yeah the corporate chicken head mohawk thing going oh that guy yeah I don't know I mean he had potential to be a good villain but he didn't he didn't really do much didn't do much just yelled a lot, right?

Yeah. He didn't really go into action until that car scene at the end when he jumps in the car. Yeah. Then he gets taken out pretty quick. He did a lot of, they're coming to get us. You guys go get him. Yeah. And I got to say, rest of peace to Bob Hoskins.

Oh, yeah. Always enjoyed him as an actor when he pops up with anything. Sure. Only thing missed was Roger Rabbit, Tumars. I know, right? I know, right? Hey, Aloigi. Yes. And he hits you with some British slang that always just stuck in my head.

When something was going bad for Rona Maitra, he was like, well, I'm not trying to piss on your chips. That's right. That's right. You count on it for that. It was awesome. Yeah. But overall, I thought it was, I thought the action was. I thought the action was decent at best.

The horror aspect, it's not really there as far as the cannibal scene. The cannibal scene that you get, which, of course, every time I see the fake fire lands, I always snake of you. There was a little bit of fake fire in here. I got a little in there. Yeah. It snuck it in. And this was more a sci-fi action than it was horror. Yeah, that's probably true.

but I always after I remember after watching this I always wanted to see Rona Meechamore I always thought she had potential to be like a badass female action star but the only other thing I can remember her in was the underworld prequel and I think she

unfortunately was the lady that gets raped by Kevin Bacon and Hollow Man oh yeah that was that was oh those are all Only, I know she's been in a lot of stuff, but as far as like this type of movie, I always thought she had potential to be more or do more. She looks like she could be a total action star.

She did as hell. She gives me Laura Croft vibes. Oh, yeah. That's a lost opportunity. Yeah. All right. Lance, what do you think? I'll probably be the high man on the totem pole on this one because I really dug this movie.

I like the way they I don't know I was like I went to a double feature like paid my money to go to a double feature movie and ended up getting like eight different science fiction movies like all jumbled together and I thought it was really cool man you had like you know

very obvious escape from New York there you had very obvious Mad Max you have very obvious you know X caliber and you know I'm reading here he wanted to put the Neil Marshall wanted to put nods to George Miller and John Carpenter

in there. Okay, I think he pulled it off. He based her character off of Snake Pliskin. Oh, no shit. Never even got that. Okay. Yeah, I'd no, I really enjoyed it. I like the dude with a Mohawk. I liked all the crazy

fucking 1980s. Like, the only thing they did they had was like roller skates, right? Like, everything else they had the Mohawks, they had the punk the punk outfits, the punk attitude, you know. Can I bring something up that just popped in my head that was a weird reaction to me? Sure.

Malcolm McDowell's daughter that they kind of rescue and then you find out the main bad guy is also her brother. Right, right. Now, she had to have seen vehicles in the city. You would think so. Yeah, you would think so, right? So when Ron Hitch's character finds the Bentley, she's looking at it like it's a unicorn or something like she's never seen such a thing. thing in her life. A little bit

of a plot hole there, Brian? And then she asked a question, she was like, what does it do? Okay. I was like, you just rode on the train. What do you mean? What does it do? It has wheels. It is pretty pristine for them

sitting there forever. Yeah, started right away, you know. I don't know, man, I have fun. I enjoyed it. I was actually like, kind of like, when I saw this movie the time back in the day. I thought it was getting all the vibe of the, you know, the

punk groups and the Mad Max and the closing the gate between. I got some of that feeling of, you know, the UK prim and proper closing the gates against those dirty, dirty Scottish and Welsh. You know, I got like some of that, you know, kind of vibe, but then once they actually

went in Malcolm Xouse Creek, they were in fucking armor and shit, it just blew my mind back then. I don't know. I just, I just, just really something super charming about about something like this and I think of like almost everything Neil Marshall has done that that one he did

about the witch on trial that we reviewed a couple of years ago not so great if you remember that one Brian he had a creature feature that came out I think it was like British British soldiers in the desert come across like a creature or something it wasn't

it wasn't that great it had the same leading actress as the witch movie I'll definitely watch it dude because anything this guy does I'll give it a shot this was a lot of fun I think it's I think that creature movie I can't think of the name I think it's streaming

somewhere well we'll find it we'll find it so yeah I enjoyed this probably a little more than than you guys did especially to far as but we'll see silly

very silly but I liked it Yeah, I had a pretty good time with it. To be honest, this is going to be a lot like dog soldiers for me, where we're going to bring it up in a couple of years, and I'm going to go, do, hey, what's that? You mean Ghost of Mars? Oh, man. Because I'm pretty sure I saw it when it first came out.

It's just not super memorable to me, except the lady with the shit on her face. She had a really good costume design. Actually, the costume designed for pretty much everybody was awesome. They nailed that part of it. But, yeah, I mean, it was a fun movie. I don't have anything real negative to say about it, except that I don't particularly remember what happened, and I watched it earlier this week. Uh-oh.

Maybe 15 million of the 17 went to cocaine. Yeah. One of those? The guy with the Mohawk? Yeah, he was definitely on some coke. The whole time. All right, scores. Tavar she said you don't want to go first on scores?

Well, I can go first. I can go first. I was waiting for you all to get your reaction to it first. Oh, I got to score. Let me see. Let's see. Rating scale one to ten, carried a two, carry to five.

Hey, man, I'm just being real with it. I give it a 4.5, man. Okay. I see you brought your slide rules. Yeah, yeah. You know, I gave it a four and a half. You know, we can round that to five, but I'm a...

Not four and a half is four and a half, man. Yeah. Brian? I liked it, but I didn't love it. I'm a fan of Rona Maitra. She's beautiful. She's badass. She had her super weird, unsanitary eye that she kept

taken out and throwing in places and popping it back in her head. Yeah, that was a weird one. The cast is pretty good. The post is misleading. The action scenes, there was not enough of them, but I still was entertained.

So I think I'm going to give it a seven. Nice. Okay. All right. Lance, you go high man on the children pole? Yeah, I'll go seven and a half. I have fun with it. It's like, It's like I came to see a movie. And, well, for one thing, it went really fucking fast.

It seemed like it was over one. As soon as it started to me. And, I mean, again, it was like squeezing eight sci-fi movies in a row. There was no horror in this, but it was like eight sci-fi movies in a row. Like, lots of 80s homage, early 90s. What's not the like? What's not to like? Yeah, I think they missed that on the horror with the whole cannibal stuff.

Oh, yeah. That's true. Because when they cook that one guy, then you don't really see them eating him. you just see super close-up shots of them cutting what is supposed to be him. Yeah. True enough. True enough. I'm going to go five and a half.

I think it probably deserves another watch where I'm paying more attention to it than I was the first time. But it didn't grab me as much as I would have liked it to. I mean, there was some good scenes, though. Good and bad. All right. We'll move on to the next one from. 2018 is that one it's uh yeah 2018 is the domestics it started just like any other day

then everything we thought we knew was gone the lucky ones were dead in seconds and when the country crumbled we divided ourselves into tribes gamblers sheets plowboys

cherries nailers and us the domestics so you're really doing this yep and now it's probably the stupidest thing I've ever done you get one flat tire you're dead miss Milwaukee this is eagle over mom

I just wanted to let you know that we're on our way in the weeks following an apocalyptic event a husband and wife venture across the countryside inhabited by deadly faction deadly factions in search of safety and must work together as they are pushed to the breaking point in order to survive. Director and writer Mike P. Nelson, also known for the 2021 version of Wrong Turn. The disc that appears before the one Katie chose to play is labeled Mancini for Henry Mancini,

the composer of the Pink Panther movie theme. I don't see how that connects, but okay. Not Don Mancini. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The Domestics. Javaris, what do you think? I liked it. I liked it.

It was pretty intense. This was my first time watching this movie. I've been aware of the movie for a while, and it's always on my list. I say I'm going to get to, and I'm going to watch, and I'm glad that I had the opportunity to take some time to watch it. Like I say, a lot of intense scene. and in apocalyptic movies and stuff,

like, certain elements of it. It reminded me of, like, the first couple seasons of, like, The Walking Dead, where, you know, you, in a situation where it's hard to trust anybody. You know, I think about Lentz, rest in peace, the great Lentz Riddick's character in there, you know, first his character kind of seemed like a threat, but then he came off, you know, he was very friendly.

And I'm like, okay, that's a good ally to have right there, you know. and that scene in the kitchen where I forgot the actor's name, so I'm going to call him Superman, because I know he played Superman on the WB. His wife was the Lois Lane in the Superman Returns. Yeah, she sure was. She sure was. I got something to say about her in a few minutes, though.

She sure was. You know, the scene where he was talking about, yeah, you know, we got to go ahead to Milwaukee, see my wife's parents to check on them. And Nance Riddick characters like, no, you know, you're either going to stay here and have a good time or I'm going to drain. I'm going to drain your blood or whatever and all this stuff. And I'm like, oh, wow, okay. That took me for a turn. And I'm like, damn.

But then he came back and helped Lance Riddick and stuff. So, but it's one of those things, you know, when I watch movies like this, a question it's like, man, would I have trust them in the beginning? And how would I have respond? Because you don't know anybody outside of your own street, I guess, you know? But Kate Bosworth, you know, I have a history with her because, like, most movies I see her in, like, I just don't like her character, you know? Yeah. I think she plays a shitty girlfriend or wife in almost every movie I've seen her in. She kind of does, don't she?

Yeah. Now, is it her or is it the character? she plays. It's the character she plays. Okay, because you just, what you just said made it seem like she's really great at playing a horrible girlfriend.

Yeah, yeah. And either that's great acting or shit, maybe that's how she acts in real life. Maybe she's pulling something real life. Maybe she has experience. Exactly. Because I think about

Remember the Titans. Yeah. Bear tears, racist girl. friend, you know. Like you said, what? Superman returns. I didn't like how she did Superman, you know? Let him, you can't let him know that he had

a son, you know? I mean, come on now. And it was another movie she was in called... I didn't like her in that surfing movie, Luke Crush. She was in... Oh, yeah. She was very unlikable in that movie.

I forgot she was in that. Because, see, when I think of that movie, I think about Michelle Rodriguez, but I forgot she was... Have you guys ever seen this? I can't think of the series name, but it was on Netflix where people woke up on an island and they didn't know how they got there. Yes. She was...

It only lasted just like a season, though, right? Yeah, she was... Not her, but the character she played was super unlikable. It was a bad show, though. Like, I don't know what the hell she was doing on... Like, because she's... Alist actress, right?

And that show was garbage. Dude, no, I didn't know anybody else on it. Well, let me see what has she done. Yeah, I hadn't seen that show. I thought he was about to talk about loss, but you said it was a Netflix show. Oh, the island. Yeah.

Is that a zombie movie? No, it's a it's a show where all these random people wake up on an island and they're trying to figure out how they got there. I know Phil's seen it I'm not trying to spoil it but they eventually figure out what they're

doing there and why they're there okay it's like it's a little bit like lost except they don't know how they got there yeah got you got you okay but it's not shit was she somebody girlfriend on par with lost at all was she what

she was somebody's wife a girlfriend she was somebody's ex-wife and it sounded like she was horrible Okay, so I'm pretty sure it was her fault That's why she's the ex, man She's got a real good bitch face Yeah, yeah, for real, man

For real, man Because there was another movie she was in called Straw Dogs Where she was with James Martson And in that movie, his character was a writer And they moved to her hometown And her hometown was just full of, like, racist and just mean people and stuff They was picking on her husband and all this

up. And it's like, you couldn't warn him how your home people are in your hometown. You know, maybe he wouldn't have bought a house out there, you know? Might have been helpful, right? Exactly. And then it's like, now she gets another opportunity to potentially ruin another Superman. So it's like, okay, but I would say in the end, second half of the movie, like, I had to change of heart because I'm like, oh, she, she about that life. To me, she was pretty badass toward the end of the movie. So that's why I was like, okay, okay. I'm like, hey, I have a new outlook on Kate Bosworth now. You know, so next movie or show I see her in, not going to be thinking about how crappy of a girlfriend or wife she's in. I'm going to be

thinking about the bad ass moment she had on this. And then it's weird how at the end, after all that stuff they went through, you know, now they seem to be on the verge of potentially repairing their marriage. That's where I'm like, okay, it took for all this shit to happen for y'all to say, hey, I love you and all this stuff, you know. Another character that was a trip, I don't know who played this character, but the radio host, the guy that was like the radio host or whatever at the show show. Yeah, that dude was a freaking trip, man. Like, I'm like, God damn, who is this? Like, he kind of sounded like, what's the actor's name? He plays Jay Jonah Jameson in the Spider-Man movies.

J.K. Simmons. Yeah, yeah. He kind of reminded me of him. I don't think it's him, but that's who he reminded me of him. And at the end, he's like after they, like, did their thing against the game, and he was like, yeah, we got this new couple, Bonnie and Cloud on 2.0 or whatever and stuff. Watch out for them, people, you know? So, you know, but I end up liking it, man. I thought it was a perfect, like, apocalyptic movie for that situation that happened in there.

all the characters were believable. There was some real serious threats. You got like five for six different gangs and stuff. So yeah, I thought it was a real good movie. I mean, it gave me some of those mad max vibes and stuff. So, yeah, I liked it.

All right. Brian, what do you think? I really like this. I think this is an underrated movie. I like the world building you got because it starts out super messed up. Because You got the government just basically doing this chemical weapon attack on its own country to reset the population. And then it flashes forward.

And then I like that they gave you time to know each gang because you got the gamblers, the plow boys, the nailers, the cherries. You got all these. You didn't spend a lot of time with them, but I felt like I got to know their characteristics and what they do and stuff like that. and I agree with Tavares. At first, I didn't like Kate Bosworth's character. I didn't understand the whole trip. I felt like it was foolish of them to do this trip. I understand he thought he was going to fix his marriage,

but I'm just kind of like, do you know what's out there? And we're supposed to drive cross country and this broken down piece of shit car. Maybe go to the plane from the airport or something. something. Yeah. But I ended up... Get the car from Doomsday, right?

I ended up coming around to her, because Lance, I know you don't like this movie, but the Tom Savini, Night of the Living Dead, her turn, that character Barbara, her turn is kind of just scared and afraid to badass by the end. It kind of

reminded you to that. Totally different from the original, but yes. I liked her turn because I think it would have changed my whole outlook on the movie as she continued to be that same character from the beginning throughout the whole movie um yeah it was uh not nothing really much i could say bad about this movie i i think it's really underrated i don't think it gets talked about enough as far as like these type of movies and i think more people should check it out

all right oh and real quick lance reddick in this movie was fantastic because oh yeah you didn't know where he's going. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't know if he's a good guy or bad guy the whole time. There was a couple characters, like the one girl that escaped the Plow Boys. They said she was a cherry. Right. You didn't really know what her intentions were until the end when she brought back to the ring.

I'm assuming she was going to kill them until she's seen their relationship and spared them and ended up helping them at the end. So little things like that just kind of won me over with the movie. Lance, what do you think? I've heard nothing but good things about this movie, and I heard two more people give it accolades. And I've got to tell you, Brian, I pulled a Lance this week and didn't see it. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Your movie homework list is growing. I know. It is. It is. At least it wasn't a 20-24 movie, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's also not really streaming anywhere. I don't think you. I may have to pay for it. I liked this movie, too, man. It was pretty decent. It sucked me in, and, you know, they kind of had me yelling at them towards the end, where when they got kidnapped by that one gang and they strapped them to the table with, like, this little piece of wood holding a pistol,

and they're, like, supposed to shoot each other, right? like they put one round in and I'm like it's a little piece of wood on a table break that motherfucker off and start wasting motherfuckers but I did like the the turnaround in that scene she was smart enough to know that they're gamblers let me let me appeal to that let me make you a wager you can't refuse yeah yeah and she should have shot that lady in the fucking face man after about the six times she called her a bitch and she has a gun pointed right at her dude shoot her I did like When she blew away that guy that was hosting the thing.

Yeah. I like some guy in the crowd was like, the bitch is hardcore. Yeah. And then, yeah, and the ending was really cool. I liked, first of all, I liked the gun that she was using. It was badass, man. It was a little lever action repeater, man. Old school Western rifles.

And she was popping motherfuckers with it. And they had that whole. bomb scene where they took out the big truck, which was pretty cool. Yeah, man, like this one, this one grabbed me and pulled me in. I paid a lot more attention to this than I did Doomsday. Better cannibal scene in this one.

Yeah, for sure. You didn't get to see the cannibal scene, but just his description of, yeah, it's people. Braised it. Real tender, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then Superman's reaction, just like when he just realized he just ate people and he just starts heaving. Yeah.

He should have been like, well, they're bad guys. I mean, we just killed them back there. We got to do something with them. Eat which kill. For real. That's true. All right. So scores, Tavaris, what do you think?

Let's see. Scott one to ten. Let's see. I gave this one. I gave it an eight point. Oh, wow. Wow. Holy shit.

Big step up from Doomsday, huh? Yeah, big step up. Big step up, man. You know, like the director of this movie, like, I'm a fan of the, what's that, the wrong turn remade. Yeah, that was a fun movie. Oh, yeah. And see, I didn't realize he directed the wrong turn until, like, halfway in the movie

when he had looked. I was like, man, let me see what other movie this got directed. And watching it, I'm like, it's. I'm like, it had a similar tone to it to me. So I was like, oh, that makes sense. That's why this reminds me of like the wrong turn remake that they did. So, yeah, I liked it. I don't know what other movies he did outside of that, but, hey, that's two for two.

Two of his movies I've seen, I liked it. All right, Brian. Yeah, real quick, just going over the cast, Liz. We didn't even talk about David Dahls Malching, late night. with the devil. That guy. Oh yeah. Pocodot man. The polka not was in here? Holy shit. Yeah, he pops up. Exactly. He plays a weirdo, but he's always good and memorable in the movie. Yeah. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

And Lance Reddickley. I thought the cast was really good and the story was really good. And like I said before, underrated. So I'm about to give it an eight. Nice. Nice. All right. Yeah, this was a, this was more a little more realistic post-apocalyptic and a little less silly. I liked it a lot. I think I'm going to give it an eight too. Yeah, it was a good movie. Yeah, you know what?

I agree with you. There wasn't too many happy moments in this movie or silly moments. Yeah. I mean, the closest you get to they're about to get it on in the back of an old school muscle car. But even that moment gets broken up real fast. Yeah. So there's not too many. happy moments in this movie.

That was just plain sad, too, man. It's like, damn, they finally click in back together, and then bam, they come right in. It's like, shit, man. Yeah. I mean, the roving gangs were a little bit silly, just because they were wearing stupid costumes.

Well, that's the number one rule, Phil. When it's the apocalypse, you dress as weird as you want. Yeah, I mean, I guess, but it seems like a sheet and A sheet and sunglasses over your head would limit your vision a little bit. Those were the sheep guys. The worst costumes were the Plow Boys because they were just wearing their regular clothes.

Yeah. Right, right. I got to watch this movie. But yeah, it was fun. I liked it, man. Good cast. Nice. All right.

Well, thanks for stopping by Tavaras. Tell our listeners again where they can find you. I think it's been about a year since we've done a show together. Has it? Maybe not. It feels like it. It feels like three years. Yeah.

Oh, man. Yeah, it's been less than that. Well, we're going to have to link up more then. But, yeah, you can find me on Apple podcast, Google podcast, on Spotify, YouTube, on Twitter, and on TikTok. So I'm always doing, like, a few TikToks per week and stuff. So, you know, student at a game podcast. That's where I'm at. All right. We appreciate it. And we appreciate you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback, your ideas. Be sure to keep putting those Facebook things in, but no bullying. It's just keep in your lane. You can reach us at thehorror returns at gmail.com. Just go to our website, thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, we're going to be joined by Nick Roth, the writer and director of the horror comedy, Hank.

Pinky Panky. For part two, oh, this ought to be fun. Part two of our trauma. Retrospective with Sergeant Kabuki Man? NYPD, is that right? Yes, sir. Okay.

And the terror, and the terror firmer. So, Brian, until the horror returns again. Good night.