The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #422: Troma Retrospective Part 2 - Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D. (1990) & Terror Firmer (1999)

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

This week we are joined by very special guests Lindsey Haun and Nick Roth, directors of the brand-new movie Hanky Panky to talk about a couple of Troma films. Cool of the Week includes LinkedIn, Thelma, Wolf Alice, Hanky Panky, Time Addicts, and I Saw the TV Glow. Trailers are The Front Room and Nosferatu. We shine the podcast spotlight on The Horror Bandwagon. Be sure to support independent filmmaking! Check out Hanky Panky anywhere you rent movies, or on Tubi. Thanks for listening! Hanky Panky The Movie Website: hankypankythemovie.com Hanky Panky The Movie Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/87rkGZACqhk3jHJV/?mibextid=LQQJ4d Hanky Panky The Movie X: https://x.com/hankypankymovie?s=21&t=gMXHpOu_LpD9dE-unOc3-A Hanky Panky The Movie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hankypankymovie?igsh=ZjRvNGpvdnMycXlw Lindsey Haun Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lindseyhaun?igsh=MWQzd2xqZW9tMDEyOA== Nick Roth Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/wEsoUMKaMNPWzDXR/?mibextid=LQQJ4d The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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And with me, my faithful co-host, Brian and Philip, and we got a special one tonight for you guys. We've got, there's a new movie out called Pinky Pinky, No, it's maybe not, it's not a porno. It's not what you might think. It's literally about a hanky that talks and saves, well, I won't give too much away. We'll get into that later, but we've got, so we've got Nick Roth. I hope I pronounced that correctly, unlike the Givinci.

Okay. And Lindsey Hans, you guys co-directed this movie, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Hello. Happy to be here. Thank you so much for having us on. What an opportunity to catch up on some of these old trauma films too.

I know. I'm excited to talk about it. Yeah. Well, yeah, when I showed you the list, Nick, you were like, I think you said trauma before I even sent the list to you. Like you went back in time somehow because you picked it so quickly. I was pretty quick. Yeah.

I want to do a complete man. All right. Well, look, so we're talking, you know, we're talking about a couple of trauma movies, but, you We would be really remiss, like, not to talk with you guys a little bit about Pinky Pinky. And, I mean, what were you guys thinking? I mean, this is a true. I feel like that is actually very trauma, too. Like, I felt like watching those movies, I was like, this must be how people feel watching

pinky pinkie. Yeah. You know, I think I was re-watching these old trauma movies. I was resistant to thinking that we were in the same sort of, like, artistic lineage as the trauma films and then as I was watching them I was like oh no we're we're closer to these than I thought we were might be where I didn't realize that yeah you didn't no well okay there's a there's there's a big difference right and I think that that's this I think all the trauma films stupid panky-panky also stupid right but I think that the the weird trauma films are are are stupid movies and

you can be stupid to enjoy them Whatever your definition of stupid is, whether you're a smart person who's on drugs or an actually stupid person. And I think Hanky Panky is an attempt at making a really stupid movie for really smart people. And you could be on drugs. But like, you've got to, it's kind of like, I don't know, because as soon as I'm saying this, I'm like, they're both for film buffs. They're both for, they're both stupid movies. I want to believe that maybe we're putting some more thought into, are we? Did we put more thought of truth than a trauma film?

I feel like I did. I think we put less cocaine into it. Yeah. For sure. You know, whether that is thought or not, I'm not sure. Like, in some of, in, with some of the trauma thing, I was like, well, they thought about this a lot. Like, they thought about this, maybe a little too much. Like, I, like, went around into a circle.

And I feel like. We tried to do a very controlled chaos. Control chaos. I think when trauma feels like, like, pure chaos. Yeah. I would say we're more in the like airplane naked gun sort of. Yes. You know what I mean?

You wanted to do clever, thoughtful spoofing. Yeah, yeah. Way better to meet like timing. I got to give you that. Thank you. Yeah, but at the end of the day, it feels like we're in the same pool of like, well, it'll be really funny to have like a bunch of cheap but like really committed blood effects. Yeah.

And to do, you know, there's a, there, the Venn diagram is bigger, there's more overlap than I. Well, there's a punk rock sensibility, I feel like about, about, about, yeah, sure. And about our filmmaking that we, we could shake hands off. We don't care what anybody, but I think that they really don't care what people think, and then everybody lines up for it. And I feel like we cared really hard what people think. Like that. Don't tell anyone that. Well, I just speaking that, like, we were like, let's, but I want them to think that we don't care.

I feel like we tried harder. I'm not saying that's necessarily even a good thing. I'm saying we were really like people pleasing and trauma movies are a little bit more. They were not as punk rock as them. They were really like, we're going to do a bunch of stupid-ass shit. I don't know. You're going to like it and everybody loves it or whatever or doesn't. I don't know.

I think they were like, people are going to love this. That's what I thought they were doing. I know they were like, oh, shit. Everybody's going to love. You're going to. Again. Like, I feel like that I was acts. They were really.

thought everybody. Well, they have like a world and a community that does. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like we're we don't have that. We don't have people coming to hanky-panky have already familiar with with the world. Yeah, that's true. Yes. Yeah. To do some universe building, huh? So maybe maybe there'll be some some spinoffs, right? Yeah, I feel like not that I here we go, here we go. Not that I want to like compare myself to the genius that is National Lampoon, but I would like to have like a hanky-paky movie universe where like this kind of absurdist

um vein of filmmaking like whether it's headed up by us or by filmmakers that we know who want to make a film within the hanky-panky universe. You know what I mean? Like it could be like a movie, you know?

You gotta get Schwarzenegger in the next one. Oh yeah. Oh my God. I just want to hear him scream about Thank you. Thank you. If we could kill him with a hat, I would be really excited. I think you go for it. I think you'd go for it, man. So, hey, I heard a rumor that, I don't know where I heard it, but, like, did you guys actually, like, everybody lived there together in that cabin when you were filming?

Like, what's the story behind that? Okay, so we should just say for anybody who hasn't seen it, you know, this is a movie, it's sort of a murder mystery about a group of people. in a cabin and they start mysteriously dying. There's also a talking handkerchief and then it's revealed, and I don't think that this is too much of a spoiler. It's revealed that it's a evil killer top hat who is sucking people's holes out through their brains and this leads us to a sort of final and very epic

and correctly lengthed confrontation between a napkin and a hat. It is a four and a half minute fight scene. Obviously, wire food. It was epic. Epic. It is the right length for the fight scene. And there's a fight scene between a hat and a napkin for the fate of mankind and the world.

And so, okay, so that is the movie in a nutshell. And yes, it was a group of friends staying in a cabin together. We all stayed there shot. Like the whole thing was basically made because we had the cabin. Yeah. Everybody who was in the movie, they were all the crew. We had one person who was a dedicated crew member. who was there for like a week or two weeks.

Sam? Yeah. Maybe two weeks. Because after the first week, we were like, we need a dedicated. We need a person. Please come up here someone. And then we had three DPs

that rotated every week. But other than that, the entire cast, we were props, catering, set deck. I mean, we did grips, electrician camera assistant like we all of us did everything and um it was nuts yeah

how long did it take to film principal photography was three weeks and then um we did it we did some pickup stuff in LA for like three days yeah the ice shack interior I don't know this is I think pretty well obscure to no one can tell But we didn't shoot that ice jack interior in the same place that we shot the exterior. The exterior were shown on an actual frozen lake in Utah, but the interior was a very decked out, our living room.

Our living room, yeah. All right. Brian, Brian, you had a question? I have two questions. I read somewhere that the camera that was used was one in a contest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we had a short film in 2015 at Slamdance. film festival that won, like, it was a sponsored block of films by the camera company.

And so the prize was the camera. And that was kind of like why we were like, let's make a movie. Because now we had a camera and a cabin. And we were like, well, well, now we can make a movie. I guess the rest really writes itself. Now let's trap our friends here and force them to do this thing that we want to do. Yeah, come snowboard with us and drink whiskey. It'll be really fun.

Kind of movie we're making? And my second question was, how did Seth Green get involved with the project? Well, he's a really, really, really dear friend of mine, of ours. I don't mean to claim. No, yeah, he hates me. He loves me. But he's Claire's husband. Claire Grant, who plays Kelly.

And I've never, I've never. I've never tapped Seth for anything because I never wanted to make our relationship about that. And, you know, we asked Claire to be a part of it, totally, like, just wanted her to be a part of it. And then Seth found out we were doing it. And when we were up there, he said to her, why didn't they ask me? We were like, oh, shit, should we have asked you? I just never wanted to do that because I feel like Seth gets asked a lot to do things. He's like one of the most generous people that I know.

And I never wanted to put him in a position like that with our friendship. Like, we're like, anyway. So that was, that was very cool. And then he saw the movie and he's like, yeah, I'll do the hat. So. Yeah, why not? Well, he doesn't really do a ton of stuff anymore, does he? He has a lot of voice work and robot chicken.

He does a lot of voice work. And, and, you know, and he's now interested in getting back into acting. He's doing a lot of producing and stuff. And so, so yeah, maybe this is, I don't know. I mean,

this is still just voice work. It's very similar to what he does on robot chicken. Yeah. So he came in here and just nailed it in two hours,

did everything in two hours and it was like done. But yeah, I know he's definitely, he's just started to look for new projects now. I just think I feel like I should represent that.

Yeah, I think he's fine. He'll find him. Yeah, he'll find them. He seems like a pretty genuine dude. He's the best. He's the best. He's such a good guy.

Yeah. We were always kind of like, we could probably stuff cast both puppet characters with like famous voice actors. And then we just fell in love with Toby's performance as Woody so much. Oh, yeah. That we were like, let's not find enough. Like, it's,

Seth perfect for Harry was always kind of in the back of my mind as like, I really like, he has this kind of like skeletor voice. He's always sort of had that from the beginning. I know that skeletor voice very well. He does Skeletor on Robot. And so it's like, that was always sort of built into my mind somewhere. But then Woody, we were like, we could find someone else.

And maybe they'll bring something completely else to it. And then in the editing room, it was just like, no, no, no, no, no. That performance. And it's recorded, it's all the stuff that Toby recorded, like, it was kind of temp. It was just like the stuff he was recording live as he was puppeteering. And we were like, no, it's too like, it's built it. It feels like it's into space. It's so live.

And there were times when he was like so exhausted and bored of the whole thing. And it was just so good for the character. Like I- There's moments he's phoning it in because it's totally phoning it in. He's never supposed to be the performance. He's off-mike for it just like next to us. And I was just like, we can't redo this. Nobody's going to be able to capture this.

It's too perfect. People are going to try, if we get anybody in here, they're going to hit it too hard. Like he, there are times when he is just like so not in it. Like, then that moment was like, I'll tell you something that you could never possibly know. The moon was a color of blood. The color of blood. It was like so good.

So not like what somebody would do if they were put in the voiceover change for you. It's a little bit flat and which is perfect. So is a napkin. Ah, but a bang. Uh. It doesn't talk about it. When you do pot a bang after once. Yeah.

Oh, you know what? I was thinking you brought up that scene like where she was on the toilet with her medication and all that. That was actually a really well-filmed scene the way that looked like she was angelic or something with that golden spread behind her

and then that trippy wallpaper. Was that actually in the cabin or did you film that elsewhere? That's our bathroom at home. Okay. And actually we did another film, a short-ish film called Nanoblobal.

where there's like a bunch of stuff that happens to that bathroom. And I was like, you know what? Every film I make, I'm gonna make a weird black bathroom scene and shoot them. Cool. So originally I shot Amanda Fuller with that angelic thing behind her on the toilet. And now- A lot of people have sat on that toilet in our movies. Yeah.

So I'm trying to bring that black bathroom into every single thing that we do. And that's why- If we move, I'm gonna carefully strip off the wallpaper and carefully take as much of it with me as I can. How did you guys come up with the idea for this movie? No, last time I tried to take this, I did a bad job, remember? And then you were like, no, I'll take it. Oh, yeah, okay. So, I was like, you do this.

So we... That's what happened last time. I was like, we didn't know what we were doing. And you were like, shut, what are you doing? Shut up. What are you doing? Shut up. I don't know.

We know exactly what we're doing. We're brilliant filmmakers. So we were a part of this short film competition where you had to make the movie. be really fast and they gave you like three random ingredients to your movie that you had to like work in you had to write it shoot it and all that stuff and um one of the props was a napkin like it had to be a heavily featured prop and we were like what if we make the napkin a character so in that little movie that we shot in two days shot and edited wrote everything um it became a dinner conversation like a dinner party where the napkins were having a separate conversation underneath the table.

My dinner with Woody, huh? Yeah, exactly. And the napkins were like kind of communicating the subconscious of what was actually happening in the awkward dinner table. And we had so much fun with it and got a pretty good response out of it that then Nick was like, why don't we just like make a movie? And it's with our original cast. And we just realized that we had some, like, really great ingredients there.

Everybody worked off of each other so well that we were like, well, why don't we just do this longer? Yeah, once we had the cabin, the camera, and then we were always like, well, we have this very silly short film with a talking napkin. I was like, which wasn't a horror, which didn't have any of that aspect. It was just a very sweet PG-13-ish. There was some body napkin humor or whatever. It wasn't like there were nobody's heads were, you know, whatever. There was no sexuality. Not a lot of fluence.

Yeah, no, no, no. Well, there was a hat. There was napkin sexuality. There was no hat. Yeah. I can't remember. Where did the hat come from? Why did we do a hat?

I think Harry manifested himself into your, I think he's a real entity. And he is figuring this is actually how he comes to the human form. Nobody manifests himself in your head. Yeah, no one can remember where the hat came from. Who thought of that or why we put, made a killer top hat movie. Yeah, but the five-thodenders were kind of brilliant. As eyes, I loved it.

That's Toby, who does the voice of Woody. He was our puppeteer and our pupper. He was our puppeteer. He was our puppet. And he also, he plays Norm in the movie as well. He plays Norm. That's very small. Notice that. His dad is a pretty famous creature fabricator.

He made the State Puff Marcemelamel Man from Ghostbusters. and like a ton of that kind of stuff. So he grew up just around that. And so when we were doing this, we're like, hey, you want to kind of, you know, bring your familial knowledge on this thing. And he was like, yeah, sure. So he created it.

Well, he's missing his eyes now. Well, they're a lot. But, um, but, um, Toby did such a great, a great job at doing exactly what, what it was called for. Yeah, I think that,

like the, real thing that is, like the biggest shout out I can give to Toby is that he brings that napkin to life so much. Like, I think he's great. And the hat's great. The napkin from Burlington Coat factory. I thought it was a hat, no, but the napkins from Target. It's from Target. No. I have pictures of us in City Target at the Beverly Connection. Oh my God. I got it. Like not even a full target, like the little or dinkier target. I thought it was Burlington Coat factory in that same complex. No? I thought it was like a limited line of like one of those people from like Bravo or something.

I'm pretty sure that's like the home or TLC that does like the home you know. City Target. Whatever city target. Way to go city target. I do love you. Well look. Yeah, I don't know if you guys have paid attention to this or not. I know I would if I'd made a movie.

If we had the talent to do it, I'd watch these all the time. But the reviews are very, very good for the movie. Like a lot of a lot of reviews I read on Rotten Toc. tomatoes were incredibly positive. But I think people got it. I really do. I think people got this. I think it connected with a lot of people.

I do think that, you know, to be fair, there's not a lot of people out there who are going to review this in the first place that it's not for. You know what I mean? Like if the time has reviewed us,

I don't know if they'd have been so favorable. People like to give bad reviews, though. That's true. I mean, I like to give bad reviews. The bad reviews. We'll find out. It's fun, yeah.

Listen, to be, to be honest, like, when we first, I was not exactly looking forward to it, because we've had some directors on here before, and... Oh, no, the pink hair where you said... And I, and I fucking slaughtered the movie. It was so bad. And, like, I told him to his face, man, this was garbage. That's amazing. I was a little worried about it, but, man.

Man, I had a really great time. Everybody was so funny. Oh, thanks. Yay. The jokes were so on point. It killed it. That's what made the movie. Okay, so I think that is what separates us from trauma. It's like that's it.

That's it. And I don't think that that's what any trauma film is ever going for. Like they're doing this sort of mannered character. Like, it's like a trauma acting. It's kind of like self-referencing, be bad acting. Like, we were trying to. to be our best. We were trying to do, we were trying to make a good movie with nothing, whereas I think they're sort of like, consciousness. This is what I mean, dumb movies for dumb people.

A very good thing. They're trying to make a bad movie. Yeah. We were trying to, right? A good movie. Yeah. Trouble is like stupid schlocky, and this was like people feeding off of each other. Just the little comments back and forth between care. It was so funny. It was great. I, I'm such a fan of every single person that was in the, this movie and I I it was so hard as you know when we were directing these scenes sometimes to call cut because they were just so everybody was so fun it's so brilliant together and there was I mean in our original cut of the movie it was three hours long because there there's just so much everybody brought so much and they're all so talented yeah probably good not to make this

one three hours definitely good my favorite stuff in the movie is like a lot of the unscripted little moments. Sometimes there's not even dialogue in them, just between, like the moment where Sam and Cliff are sitting on the couch and it's after you and Toby come out and Toby's naked, and then you're just like, we're big family if there's an extra bed.

And that moment, like, that's the ending that was seen in the script, right? But the moment where then it pan- Like, they just look at each other, but there's so much happening and they're just like, are you gonna, are you gonna, we don't want to talk about this. And they just, like,

that stuff feels so real and authentic. and it hits me on like a, I don't know, emotional funny bone. I love it. I love that stuff. Good chemistry. All right. Yeah, chemistry. All right.

Really important question. Like, where can our listeners find the movie? And like, is it streaming anywhere? Is it available for purchase? You know, how can everybody check this out? I recommend going directly to Tooby. Now, Tooby is a... To be fair.

Okay, I got to. I did not do that on purpose. We do it all the time. We have some good friends from Australia that do a 2B Tuesdays podcast. And that's one of their catchphrases. But every time we say it on here, we owe them a dollar. So how much do we owe them? I think Brian, I think Brian was doing the accounting on that for Super Network.

I think we've overshot the budget of Hanky-Panky on how much money we owe your friends podcast. Okay, here's why Chubi, okay? Tube is because it has, it's free, that's the best part. And then the second best part is it has ads, which is also a plus because, look, ads I know can be disruptive to some kinds of experiences, but not, not Hanky-Panky. I think Hinky-Panky benefits from ads. If you have a nice break to like in the middle of a scene where a napkin is having an orgasm from cleaning up a spill to go learn about the upcoming Ken Jong special or the new Nissan. Ultima, or sometimes Tubey just gives you ads in other languages. Like, I don't speak Spanish, but I get Tubey ads in Spanish.

I don't know why. I do, too, all the time. Oh, yeah, sure. I was going to say maybe it's because we live in L.A., but no, you're in Alaska. Sometimes there's, like, I don't know, I was, I wasn't really paying attention to the ads, and I looked up, and I, because I was just running the movie over and over again to run up the ads. That's probably shouldn't say that, but that's what I'm doing.

And I looked over at the ad, and it was just like a man-based. is golden retriever and I was like this is so in slow motion like kind of sensual. Oh wow. It was just a very surreal thing to cut back to like Seth Green's Skeletor hat chasing my friends and trying to kill them in the blizzard. Yeah I think that it only adds to the experience so I would recommend too. All right cool. All right. So look or you could pay for it on Apple. You can also pay for the yeah. And you don't have to have I mean you can you can watch it for free and buy it almost anywhere. We prefer to be for free and Apple for pay. I think for creatively, I prefer to be. But if you want to watch it without ads, it is on Amazon Prime, Apple TV,

Google Play, YouTube movies, you know, you Google it and go, come on. I prefer Apple. All of the things. Yeah. All of the things. All of the things. All right. Well, look, we start out every week with a little thing that we call Cool of the Week. And it could be anything. favorite movie you've seen this week TV show, book, concert you've attended, you know anything. So, shit, you guys are our guests.

So yeah, you guys go first. Jump in there. Okay. You go first. Now, I'm not going to take your backup. You do what you do you, buddy. Which one should I do? I think you do the one that you have,

you have like a thing about. Okay. I would like to do a shout out to. I've renewed my passion for LinkedIn. Now, I know most people are. already made up their minds probably about LinkedIn. But this is my pick is that LinkedIn, it's counterintuitive because you would think, why is the social media platform that has absolutely no content that I want to see on it,

that most, it has almost none of my friends or anybody I've ever met in real life on it. Why would I want to be a part of that? These are all things I would say. But that is specifically why it is the best and only social media platform I am on. because it is where there is no frills. I don't waste any time on it because it's awful. And I just go and set up meetings with executives that I need to meet with. And so like, especially in Hollywood.

And I would say this, this is probably very specific to Hollywood and being a creative in Hollywood. All of the people who work at the studios and the networks and production companies, they're all on LinkedIn. It's where they go to be posted by the other studios. And so, and the other thing that happens. is everyone you know at any studio that you ever have a meeting with, in two years, they're gone. Now their email that you had from Warner Brothers no longer works. So you need some way to keep contacting them unless you get close enough with them to get their

personal email account and blah, blah, blah. Sometimes that happens. But most, are you just zoned out now? You're on your phone while I'm doing this thing? Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. You know a lot there, buddy.

So this is what I'm saying. I've had an experience this way. And sometimes I'm like, I don't know about LinkedIn. But then this week, I had one of those experiences where I went to go. get in touch and catch up with an executive that I had a great meeting with a year ago and I was like I wanted to reach out to her and uh but the email got returned to me boom go oh okay lincoln straight to lincoln messenger hey I see from LinkedIn that she is at a company that I would prefer to be talking to now in a position that makes more sense for me to be talking to her

in he's gone from a from a children's animation to an adult animation position much better for you Much better for me personally. Hey, are you at the murder company right now? And then she was like, yeah, gave me her new email address. And now I have a meeting set up with a professional contact that other, without LinkedIn, never would have happened. Wow. So LinkedIn, it's awful and don't give them any money, but it is a one-profit service that I, that is my feeling about it. Okay.

Okay. Well. Okay. All right, Lindsay, you're going to bring us back to early. I just looked at something else. I was like, man, I got to make us look cool after this one. I don't know if I can. That's cool.

I don't know what you think cool. Okay. So, well, personally, I discovered that our, my daughter, my three-year-old daughter's friend, who we first connected with at preschool lives in one of Ida Lupino's house. I don't know if you know who Ida Lupino is. But she was one of the first female director. to be allowed into the directors guild. We also live in an Ida Lipino house.

And we've heard about this other one. Wow, okay. And we showed up to this preschool party and like, hey, oh my gosh, we all, I was getting a tour of the house and found out it was the other house that we've been like wondering about. So that was very cool. I feel, I feel, I feel her blessings with me, you know. But the other thing is this band called Wolf Alice, who is,

who is so awesome. Do you guys know about Wolf Alice? I've heard of them. Wolf Alice. Okay, yeah, Philip would probably be the most likely. So the lead singer of the, I mean, they're amazing. They're amazing. But it feels like rock and roll, like punk rock and roll, grunge rock.

And it's not like, even though the lead singer is a female, it's not, like, I feel like a, usually when there's a female lead singer, like, we're kind of like play. like placating to somebody. And this like feels very, very, very real, very, very, very punk rock. And not like she's trying to be like dude punk rock. It's like she, it's powerful in its own way. And so I'm like, I'm really very excited by that band. Nice.

Cool. Yeah, we don't get band shoutouts all the time. You don't? I know. I was like, I don't say, but I'm doing it. No, you made us cool again. I throw them out there every once in a ball, but nobody gives a shit.

I bet their managers on LinkedIn. Look at that. Oh, man. All right. Want to get in touch with that band? Good luck on Instagram. You want to jump in? Brian is our dude.

He's like the anchor. And he's usually watched seven or eight, if not nine movies. And they're all in the same series, right, Brian? I don't like when you hype me up. And then I got a follow with. I only watched one. new movie this week. Ah, okay.

Which turned out to be hanky-panky, which I also enjoyed. Yay! There you go. If you can only watch one new movie this week. Let it be hanky. But I also did. I've been showing my daughter a lot of old 80s movies, and last night we watched The Wizard with Fred Savage.

Oh, Jesus. Oh, I love that movie. What do you mean? Oh, what do you mean, oh, Jesus? I haven't seen that probably since the year it came out, Brian. Has Christian Slater in it, which led us to watch our second movie that also had Christian Slater, the legend of Billy Jean. Whoa. Wow.

I don't know if I've ever seen that one. You never seen The Legend of Billy Jean? I don't think that's a classic. You need to watch it. Yeah. But yeah, I'm real busy this week, so I didn't get the chance to watch anything. But if I had to go cool the week, it was hanky-panky because I didn't expect the comedy to hit for me, but it did. And then the kind of murder mystery aspect of the story also was a big surprise to me.

Oh, my gosh. I love hearing that, you know, because it's also, I feel like when you're the way that we watch movies now, is so isolated. And we've had a few screenings that were like packed houses. And everyone is rolling in laughter, which made me feel obviously so good. But I'm also like, shit, is this the only way that this movie that people actually get the comedy in this movie is if you're with other people? So it's always so nice to hear that somebody gets the comedy, you know, watching it on your screen, you know? And the actress, I don't know her name.

I think her name was Diane. in the movie. She seems like she's so much fun to be around. She is. She's like one of our favorite people ever. Ever, ever, honestly. Ashley is one of the coolest people in the entire world. So sweet, so funny. Just the best, the best, the best, the best. Nice. She'll be, she'll be definitely in the sequel, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, too, if and when we ever make it, where it'll be, it's sort of anchored around Harry the Hat is best.

back with an invasion army coming to take birth with many hats, many killer top hats. And the only thing that can save humanity is Diane rallying the Topanga Women's Ayahuasca troop to style. That's a great scene. With that plot, there's got to be a trilogy then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Pinky Panky Three hat trick is more like apocalypse now where, let's say there's a, you got to go to the hat realm to rescue Dr. Crane's spirit who's trapped there. Yeah.

But he's got native. Colonel Carts. Somebody throws him out at a hockey game. They don't know that it's sailing. All right. I had a couple of pretty trippy movies this week that I watch. Well, Hanky Panky definitely was my cool of the week. Like, I'm telling you, I enjoyed it so much more than I expected to.

It was so great. Thank you. And I'm not just saying that. But I was scrolling through people. I like to jump on the different streaming platforms and just kind of scroll through the movies and see what I can find and I've sort of used up Netflix so I went over to Peacock and found Time Addicts It's a it's an Australian movie. Okay, about these like two meth heads. It's a guy and a girl and

They're just kind of trying to score their next their next their next drug thing right and They get with their dealer, but they don't have any money. And so he sends them to go to this house and steal a bag of stuff from an old shut-in that lives in this house. Well, they go to the house, and it turns out that the meth shards or whatever that he has sends them through time instead of getting them high. and so they there's a couple of different scenes where they like run into each other like the future selves and it's it's it's it's a really trippy druggy comedy thing it's it's a lot of fun oh my god and they tie it up the new and nice little bow at the end um all the people you there's so the three main characters are the two drug addicts and the dealer and find out

how they all connect towards the end of the movie. And does Walter White show up? No, not quite that serious. That is so cool. What year was this made? Did you say that already? It's a new movie. I think it was like 2023 or 22 or something.

Oh, wow. Oh, my God. That's bizarre. I want to see it. I had a really good time with it. It was really off the wall, kind of a, I don't even know if it was really an indie movie. Because the production value is pretty good.

So, but I, I liked it, man. I had a really good time with this one. And another one I watched was called The Wave with Justin Long and the black dude from Scrubs. Yeah. Yeah. Donald Faison. Yeah. And so they, so I, this one is sort of another drug-fueled movie.

I guess I was. We got a theme going here tonight, folks. I know. I didn't really think about this before I said it. But he's like this lawyer for an insurance company, which sounds super boring. But screws this guy out of a ton of money, gets a promotion out of it. And they're celebrating. They go out on the town.

And the universe fixes itself. basically. But there's a lot of, there's a lot of scenes that are very, uh, mushroom trippy in it where the universe is talking to him. Big fan. And, uh, it's got, it's also got, uh, the, the, the Irish guy from Sons of Anarchy with the scar on his face. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, he's like the drug dealer guy. Maybe. I don't even know if he's real. What's his name? Kim, Kim, Kim Coates, right? Isn't that the actor? I've seen this movie. Have you?

Ah, there we go. I just ran across it and I was like, because it came out in like 2019 and there's a hundred different movies called The Wave. But yeah, like I ran across it and was like, ah, let's check it out. It wasn't quite as good as time addicts.

I don't think they wrapped it up and did quite as nice of a little bow at the end, which I always enjoy. But they still did it and it was an interesting movie. And I'm a Justin Longfeyn. I like him. Yeah.

Who isn't, right? Yeah. That's right. And that guy from Scrubs is super funny. I love him. I'm a massive Donald Faison. Yeah. He's so funny.

He's so good. Yeah. He brings a lot to just everything. He does. When he shows up, you're like, oh, this is going to be funny. Yeah. He's going to be great. Oh, for sure.

He already knows. He killed it every time. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I got this week. Do obscure. random ass movies. That's always good, man.

That's why we do this, right? To introduce people to stuff that they may not know about. So, Brian, you saw a movie last week. I'm sure you know what my clue of the week is. I saw a movie last week. Which movie did I see last week? You were watching the TV glow? Oh, you finally checked it out.

Yeah, it's fucking probably going to be my number one or number two. Have you guys heard about this? I saw the TV glow? No. Sounds familiar. It's an A24 movie. It's brand new. Yeah, it's not what I was expecting.

I'll tell you that. I didn't think it was going to go in the directions it went. It's just kind of like your basic teenage angst movie. Lots of good punk rock in it. It's got a great soundtrack. It's basically there's this TV show that these kids start watching. It's called, what's it called? Brian, the pink opaque, like the Cocktoe Twins album, right?

Yeah, exactly. And it just starts going into the possibility that, because I don't know if you guys have ever thought, well, maybe this life I'm living is not like where I'm supposed to be, or maybe it's not everything. It goes into kind of like the possibility of alternate dimensions. It goes into the possibility of, you know, you know, maybe things aren't what they look like.

You know, maybe I'm trapped somewhere. and then it's a real and Brian Brian knows for and you know too Philip I love slowburn stuff and it is slow burn so slow burn that the the rotten tomato scores were pretty high and predictably the audience reviews for things like this is really slow and boring you know get to the point type stuff you know it just wasn't like real formula it's just really original and that's what I liked about it and it's um I don't know it just it's averted a lot of my expectations so like when you're halfway through the movie and all of a sudden the main characters

are not in it anymore and you've got like this punk band, all female punk band in a bar singing on stage, just belting it out. It's like what the fuck is going on? Did they change the movie? It's kind of like when we watched the Barbarian guys when they did

that huge, speaking of Justin Long, they did that huge shift there, dynamic shift there. And it's just artfully made. It's gorgeous. My wife absolutely fucking hated it. She was like, oh my God.

She was like, that is an hour and a half of my life. I'll never get back. And I'll be subjected to double home our Christmas movies this year. But no,

it was just, it was beautiful. I mean, the cinematography was gorgeous. The colors themes, the palette, the, you know,

the neon colors, the pinks. And then I always love things that fuck with your mind, like what really is reality? And like this, This does that in spades. So I'm not going to give too much away.

I mean, there's a lot of time jumping and stuff like that, but it kind of makes sense when you think about what the message is. So, oh, man, I can't say enough good things about this one. This is kind of like the movie that we saw about the serial killer a couple of weeks ago, that everybody's saying, well, Lance, you hate slasher movies, and, like, that one's also going to be in my top five. but that's, that was an IFC shutter film, I think. And I think IFC is kind of starting to give 824 a run for their money with a lot of this stuff,

in my opinion. And the neon's still doing a lot of good stuff too. But yeah, check it out. You get a chance. I saw the TV glow. It's bizarre. And so, and it's available streaming now, so you can watch it at home, which is good, because the closest theater to me was 70 miles away.

I didn't quite make it, but I got to check it out. Next segment, Brian, we've got horror headlines. What's going on this week, man? Anything finally, not from 2026? I don't know. I think we might have used up all our news. There's only a little bit this week. Let's see.

Devin Sawa and Jordana Brewster are going to be in a horror rom-com called Heart Eyes. That sounds great. Sure. Why not? Heart eyes? Heart eyes. All right. We talked about West Craven's

The Breed getting a remake. Well, it's... Sorry about the noise in the background. It's getting a remake. Oh. And it's reunited. You guys ever see that movie Fall where the two ladies climbed a tower

and get stuck on it? Yeah. Oh, no. I saw a trailer and was like, this looks cool. It's not bad. My daughter loves it. I mean, she's 11, but... Those two actors were Virginia Gardner and Grace Carolyn Curry,

and they are reunited to star in the remake to The Breed. Ooh, okay. Which, if nobody's seen the breed, it's about people getting stranded on the island with killer dogs. Okay. I feel like I've seen that. So these two girls, someone's got to put like a tile on them or whatever. these poor girls

they keep getting stuck in crazy they got to choose peace you know what I mean right right hey what's life with that a little adventure yeah

stop going on boats and climbing let's see uh Oz Perkins next movie after his serial killer movie

long legs will be a film adaptation of Stephen King's The Monkey, and it gets a June 25th, 2024 release date. Oh, okay. Right around the corner. Shout out to Oz Perkins, who I knew as a child, and I will stand him as a mensch. He's a good dude.

In addition to... Stand-up guy. He's a good, I haven't seen him in maybe 20 years. But he's... I remember him as being a really good, like, fundamentally good guy. So I'm very happy to see that he's finally getting his, like, do as, like, becoming a name filming. And I think that's it for news.

Is that it? Oh, I'm sorry. I made a mistake. Or this website made a mistake. February 21st, 2025 is a release date. Well, that's not as long as the ones you were talking about last week. So we're good. So, all right.

So that's familiar territory news. Let's go somewhere that may not be as familiar to you. Well, you guys live in L.A. the fuck am I talking about? You guys know all about trailer parks, right? Oh, yeah. I grew up in a trailer park. Well, there you go. All right. Let's take a little trip to the trailer park, and Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about tonight?

Well, this one comes from your favorite studio, Lance A-24, and it's the front room. It tells the story of a newly pregnant couple who is forced to take in an ailing estranged stepmother. And this stars Brandy Norwood, Catherine Hunter, Adrian Burnap, Neil Huff, and Morgan McKenzie. And this is, you might recognize the last names of these directors, Max Eger and Sam Eger. And Brandy's in it. I was going to say, Brandy. I was like, is she using a different name? No, Brandy knew he said her full name.

Oh, he said her full name. I didn't hear Brandy. I remember her last name. Her name was Brandy. Her name was Brindy. I could have said Moisha. Moesha. That's right.

I forgot about that show. Yeah, I was, when I was watching the trailer for this, I was like, Brandy? I'm in. I don't care what it is. I want to know. It's horrible and Brandi's in it. I am watching it. But then it actually looks pretty weird and cool.

Like, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, like horror movies so I'm I'm kind of a target audience for something like this that's like also dealing with like social you know issues and stuff like that which I feel like horror really works well for that kind of stuff so I it looked really interesting to me I was very excited about it like you and dealing with elderly parents which I'm hoping that I don't end up with you never know you never know what you mean you hope they die Well, I just don't want to live in my house. You know what's funny is we just, we just watched Thelma, our friends. Oh, okay.

Oh, maybe that should have, holy crap. That should have been our cool thing. I did LinkedIn. Terrible friends. Oh, my God, because it was really good. It was really good and really sweet. And, you know, talking about an elder, it's totally like the non-horror side of the,

of I feel like this movie of the front room. It's like if everything was great and that woman was just really nice and wonderful and not a racist, that's Thelma. And then this is the other version of that movie. This is like the other side of the mirror. It's true. She's a wonderful old lady who doesn't want to have to move in. She likes her independence and staying home.

Instead of a horror movie about an old lady who moves in your home and destroys your life. Yeah. Like Rosemary Baby, Rosemary's babies, your baby. Yeah. Delma also, just like such a wonderful cast, June Squib and Richard Roundtree are both tremendous. But then like some of the smaller roles, Clark Gregg and Parker Posey always amazing. But they're so good sort of real. Talk about chemistry with an ensemble.

Really fun. Delma, you said? Felma, yeah. But the front room, I don't know the actress. What's the name of the actress who plays the older lady? She actually seems kind of amazing. Like, what's really interesting to me is dealing with the Christianity as the horror part of this film, too. Like, you know, the overzealous.

of that. I grew up Christian. I don't have anything against Christianity. I just think it's really interesting to play with that. And you don't really see that played with a lot. So that's very cool. Filled with the Holy Spirit. What did you think, like?

What did I think of the trailer? Yeah. I thought, I mean, look, I thought, I was interested, but I think I'm not as on board as Lindsay. Like, it's, I, I tend towards, the lighter fair and this looked very, very heavy, which means that it was like, the burden on it to be good is very, very high. But I am curious, and I do want to see brandy in it.

But I also felt like it looked, it wasn't selling me on being something like something wholly new that I haven't seen before. I felt like there was like, it was kind of like hereditary meets Rosemary's Baby or whatever, which sounds like it's great, but I'm like, but that kind of makes me want to go rewatch Rosemary's Baby instead of watch this movie. So, I don't know. Like, it didn't, it didn't, the hook didn't hook me.

But I mean, it looks like it's very well made and everybody looks great. So no, no aspersion's cast, I'm just not sure it's, that trailer is, didn't sink it's deep in the middle. Fair enough. How are you guys? Creepy old ladies with dementia are always creepy.

And so I, taking of Debra Logan. Does she have dementia? Well, I'd have a good question. You get that scene in the trailer where she falls and hits her head and the grandson comes and picks her up and then she's smiling at Brandy as she's being carried away. That's creepy. Yeah. I don't know.

I hope the movie's not entirely about racism, but creepy old ladies freak me out. even though that's my entire customer base as an electrician. Maybe that's what they drink you out. It's too close to home for you. Yeah. What'd you think, Lance? I'm not sold. I'm actually going to echo pretty much what Nick said.

It's like it just felt like I was watching elements from a whole lot of other movies that I've seen before. So, you know, hey, hey, 824, wow me like you always do, right? most of the time, like when I'm not expecting something from a trailer and I end up loving the movie. So the jury's out, but it did look a lot. To me, it looked like a lot of recycled type stuff and truth. Some of that may be indicative of just like a trailer that's trying to put like hook you with a certain kind of familiar thing or whatever. And I was like, this isn't giving me some particular reason why I feel like I have to see this movie. Like it just...

Brandy? Well, okay, except for Bray. Brandy, but I didn't need to That's the big selling point, I think. That is. That's the only reason I'm interested. Brandy's in it. I'm like, oh, okay.

I'll watch it. Yeah, if I give it a look, it's just because I'm like, I'll see Brandy in a horror movie. That I might, which is for sure how they raise money. Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested because I want to see how good Robert Eggers' brothers are at making films, because I didn't even know he had brothers that were in the industry and now

they're directing their own horror film. All right, this one has a release date. This year guys, September 6. Is it in theaters or VOD or do we know? It's A-24 so it's most likely going to be

in theaters. I'm not loving it enough to go see it in the theaters unless we have to. I'll go see it with Ashley, the girl who plays Diane and our movie. She and I are horror movie buddies. We go and see horror movie. There you go. You guys could go see Brandy Horley. We would

definitely go see this movie. We will too fill up when Brian puts it on the schedule. Yeah, I was what I'm saying. If it's on schedule, I'll go see it. It'll be our elderly horror episode. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

All right, moving on to the other Eggers' brother, Robert Eggers's Nospheratu. Oh, I see what you did there. Okay. Finally dropped the trailer for a movie that I think has been done filming for a while. Nospharatu. Why'd that wait so long?

I don't know. Got to check with my sources, but I'm not sure. That concerns me. The cast, though, is pretty good. Aaron Taylor Johnson, Bill Scarsguard, Willem Dafoe, Nicholas Holt, Emma Corrin, Ralph Innocin, Lily Rose Depp, Simon McBurray, and so on. Like, why to cast. Hey, Willem Defoe's in it, dude.

Sign me up. Yeah, Willem Defoe and Nicholas Holt. Like, I love those two actors so much. And, like, even if the movie's bad, it's interesting to watch them. I mean, of course, Willemdafo. But Nicholas Holt is like, he always brings something really, really amazing. Yeah, I'm liking him more. Yeah, I'm a big fan.

I agree. I think he's true. I liked him in the great. I liked him. I wasn't even a really big fan of the menu, but I thought he was really, really interesting in it in his performance. This movie, this trailer has me, I don't need the trailer. I just need Willem Defoe to say Vampire. They could, like, that's all I want is I just want to hear Willem DeVoe in a crazy-ass accent, talking about vampire for one second.

I really liked how much they said he's coming. That was great. I like that about the trailer a lot, and I think it was well done. I think I'm kind of really into trailers also. I think baby I'm a real

swayed by trailers, because I love this one too. I don't know if everybody else is on board again. Although it seems insane to me that you have a Nospheratu movie with Willem Defoe in it, and he doesn't play the vampire. It's not nosferatu.

I know. That was the big reveal for me, too. I was like, what? But maybe later? I think that's great. It's too on the nose if he's nosferatu. Yeah. Oh, my God.

I'm not trying to do it. He said no spheratu is what he said. I think Bill Scarsgard is not spherat too. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. I can see that.

Boiler alert. Hello. They didn't show him in the trailer at all, did they? I'm a little tired of Bill Scar Scar Scarred being the makeup bad guy, I will have to say. He's done that a lot. He's like

those two girls who keep getting stuck in different places. It's because he's got weird I know, he's got those old g-eye. Yeah, now he's in a gutter, now he's in a coffin, right? What did you guys think? Yeah. Lance Phil?

I'm down. I'll absolutely go watch this. I mean, it's a Nosephratu movie. It concerns me that took so long to come out with it, but it's got a killer cast. Well, we just had a strike. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that might have had something doing reshoots or something like that.

Yeah, I'm kind of excited about it, but I'm kind of not. I mean, well, you guys know I wasn't really too high on it when it was announced because, you know, I love the Vich. I mean, like, that was one of my favorite films of that year. And then to me, I just- traumatized me, like, scarred me in the best way. I was crazy. The baby fat bathing in the baby's fat. What the fuck?

I just haven't been as impressed with him since then, you know. But hey, you know, I love a good vampire movie and a good period piece, so we'll see how it goes. All right. It'll be in theaters, Christmas Day. Oh, God. Whoa. What a choice. Geez.

Yeah. Weird release. The tagline is to come to the darkness. Yeah. Weird release date, but a big one. So. What are we doing? High expectations, I guess.

All right. All right. These are choices, you know? Do choices that somebody made. Look, I kind of appreciate that a lot of vampire movies have been made. And so if you're going to just make another vampire movie, you might as well just do Nosferatu. You know, I mean, like either do something nobody's seen before or,

remake the most classic one of all the time. I'm trying to look up. I think Willem Defoe did, didn't he play Nassphirot 2 in a movie? Did he sounds? If nothing else, in the Mandela effect, he definitely did, right? Yeah. Somewhere out there. Seriously. And I'm for it.

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I found the trivia. Willem Defoe famously played original Nosferatu actor Max Shrek in the 2000 movie Shadow of a Vampire. He played the actor. Oh, the vampire. That's right. That's why we all think of him.

I mean, also, he just looked like it. And that's probably why he wasn't. That's why he wasn't in this one. He is a weird looking dude. Oh, it's so wonderful. Oh, gosh. But we have Trauma Week this week. We're gonna dive into Sergeant Kabuki Man in YPD and Terror Affirmer.

We'll start with the earlier one from 1990, Sergeant Kabuki Man in YPD. His name is Sergeant Harry Griswold. He's an undercover cop who takes his job seriously. I need to commandeer this vehicle. A regrettable twist of fate has chosen you as a recipient of amazing super mortal power. He becomes Sergeant Kabuki man, NYPD. Only a beautiful tender woman Lotus can carefully teach Harry the subtle nuances of the Kabuki way. A streetwise New York police officer transforms into the world's most unusual superhuman hero.

That is an understatement. Directors Michael Hertz and Lloyd Kaufman, course, writers Lloyd Kaufman, Jeffrey Sass, and Andrew Osborne. The footage of the car crashing and flipping over has become a trauma trademark and end joke. It was used again in Tromio and Juliet and Terra Fermer to smash that guy's head in 1999. The film was spun off from the character Kabuki Boy in the Toxic Avenger Part 2. I didn't even know there was a part 2. I never seen that one. I think there's four now, right?

There's many. There's many. Lloyd Kaufman jokingly mentioned that he was making a movie about a character and Japanese investors became interested. Oh, my God. And of all the Japanese warrior history, they chose a kabuki man. All right, what did you guys think? about Sergeant Kabuki Man.

You know, I have recently watched, have you guys seen Velasapaster? It was a Texas Frightmare the weekend. We were there, but I missed it. Did you guys check it out? Did you go to the screen? You're okay. Yeah, we went to the screening,

and we got to talk to the director as we were walking out in the middle of the movie. He's got to know that's a thing. likelihood, right? Yeah. Well, to be fair, to be fair, it wasn't about the movie. It was just the setup of the screen,

and we can hardly see the screen. So we let them know it wasn't a movie. Why do screenings have that even available? Like, if it's a screening, yeah, that's great, whatever. Well, it's just like a room set up

with folding chairs. That's exactly what it was. I think, you know, Velocastor is part as a recent example of success in this very long-storied subgenre of like a mystical Asian power finding its way into the body of somebody in effectively New York City, right? That's what Velasso pastor is about? Well, he gets mysterious Chinese powers that allow him to turn into a, he's a pastor who can turn now he inherits some kind of weird, he can turn into a dinosaur. Because of some Chinese thing. Because of some Chinese.

thing, yeah. And then he fights ninjas. The per... Velocaster would be, I think, it's a really hard movie to pull up. My problem with Velazapaster, not enough Velociraptor, too much faster. It doesn't get the balance, right?

Which is fair, because when you finally do see him in the full, like, it's just clearly a guy wearing, like, a, you know, a Halloween costume of a dinosaur from, you know, from, like, a discount Halloween shopper. whatever, you're like, oh, I see why this couldn't be really central in the whole film. And I do like that there's a lot of just like, you don't, you just see like the arm,

the dinosaur arm come in from off frame or whatever. There's quite a bit of that. Big fan of those kinds of things. And I feel like Velasapaster, which was a bit of a viral sensation, didn't quite nail what I wanted from the genre. And I, and I think that it was going for what Kabuki Man does achieve, which is a much more fully formed insane. of the, based on that same thing, which is that this kind of like, uh, problematically mystical Eastern power has ended up in a new rock, but it problematically, you know, it leans, it leans into that in a, in a really like, loving and wonderful way and, uh, and has a lot of, uh, fun with it. And so I, I was pleasantly,

I don't, I may have seen Kubuki Man in college. I, can't remember. But I was pleasantly surprised by how enjoyable it remains 30, whatever years later. Much cocaine was harmed during this film. Yeah. Yeah. Not as much as the next movie that we're going to talk about, I have to say. Their brains were fried at that point. But I thought I was like really not thinking I was going to like the movie. And then despite myself, I loved it.

Rape scene, a little too rapy for me, just slightly too rapy. But hey, you know, whatever. Oh, you're talking about the park rape? Yeah, the park rape. Yeah, the park rape. Yeah, the park raves seem to make light of what was then actually represented as not funny.

Not funny. It was not a funny rape. And, wow. Is there funny rates? I mean, hey. They really tried and terrorized to be more funny rates. Yeah, they did. Wow. So, yeah, that, that, that I was still a little, but I loved it. I loved, I loved the Kabuki

man. I'm a fan now. It really did turn me into a bit of a fan. I, I loved the absurdity of it. I love that Jay Leno was the bad guy. You know what I mean? Like, I'm really, really, really, too. Come on, Philip. I was like, wait, what? Come on, Philip. He talks just, he, it's like he's doing a Jay Leno impress you. The whole time. You got to rewatch it. I mean, he basically is doing Jay Leno, like they wanted Jay Leno. Like, they pitched Jay Leno on the role. Maybe, like, part of the joke to the, to the investors was that it was Jay Leno, and then they couldn't get Jay Leno, so they got this guy. I don't know. He was

I loved it. I was in. I, you know, my one, I had the one note, but other than that, fantastic. I love an unusual superhero, you know, what I like, and this, obviously before superhero, movie meant what it means now, right? But like, even back then, it was like to flip that as far as you can go in the other direction, I think that's super fun. And I like that. It reminded me of something that I would have watched. I was homeschooled.

And I spent a lot of time just like watching weird movies that were available on TV during the day instead of doing any kind of schoolwork. And this reminded me. And this reminded me of a movie that I would come across and just be like, yes, yes, this is going to be my new idea. You know? Lindsay likes to say she was homeschooled. She just didn't go to school. There's a difference.

Home school is a thing where you do school, but you're at home. But you just didn't go. That's fine. You were a working actor. Maybe it's not fine. But you weren't homeschool. You've got to stop telling people that. You're giving the wrong impression.

Well, you know. Anyway, this gave me a fond, fond feeling in my heart of like, being alone during the day as a kid watching TV and being like, yeah, I'm a cinephile. It was very cartoony. Yeah, yeah, totally.

Brian, what'd you think? When I think of Trauma, I think of the toxic Avenger and Sergeant Kabuki Man. There you go. I like that he's just integrated into this universe. He pops up in all the movies.

He'll even pop up in the next one. yeah and definitely problematic definitely a movie you can't make today no yeah but I still had fun with it and it took me back to a time when I was way too young to see this I think I

what was it USA up all night Gilbert Godfrey and Ronda Shearer Arrne Shears yeah and it's just the movie's just so absurd and wacky it makes it fun the martial arts scenes are badly choreographed in film

but it's fun his powers aren't explained because at one point when he's trying to change into the sergeant kabuki man he changes into a clown I don't know I didn't miss something there I actually loved that scene I loved that we have to

watch him try to muster up the power for his own thing right that's I mean that's what I feel like the story of that scene was he was yeah he was trying to muster up the power for his own gain and then it made him a clown. I was like, this is great. That felt very Jodorowski. It did feel very Jodorowski. If you try to do that, if you try to use the mystical power for yourself, you become the butt of the joke. Yeah.

I think you guys nailed it. No, I think you've nailed it. That makes perfect sense. I love that. Why is this happening? And I'm looking here, it was supposed to get an anime. series. You guys remember back in the day when we were kids how everything was getting animated series, movies that didn't. Harlem Bloodrotters and yeah. There was a toxic Avenger animated thing.

Yeah. I used to watch it when I was kidding. Oh, there was. You're right. Yeah, there was. There is a new toxic crusader. That was the name of the cartoon. There is a new video game coming out. It looks pretty fun. Oh, interesting. They probably should not

do Kabuki Man. probably he may he may he may show up you never know in the game right I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up as a side character in the game right he throws chopsticks I haven't seen any of the newer trauma movies has anybody

seen any new trauma movies does he like pop up in any my trauma knowledge is limited but it might expand after this week we'll see yeah I'm curious to see the newer stuff now there's a cool documentary I'm forgetting the name someone probably knows it here right there's a documentary about trauma and

lloyd coughman that like talked about the sort of history of and how they got started and stuff and i saw that and thought that was really cool okay yeah marcy and bader yelling at us right now yeah i'm looking up here outside of the canceled animated series he does pop up in a lot of toxic adventure movies class of newcomb high and on the trombovies youtube channel he had a talk show called kabuki Man's Cocktail Corner. Oh, my God. There was a moment when we were making Hanky Panky where we thought maybe what we need for this film is like the movie needs more explanation and we'll have, we'll do a

cocktail corner type thing with Woody where it's just him in a bar and he like, you know, like masterpiece. Yeah. And it's like, hey, I didn't see you there. Let me explain to you what you're about to, let's look at it, you know. And then if we needed exposition, you could just do that in the middle of, did all the movie. Yeah.

Ultimately, no. We decided it was clear enough on its side. It was clear. I like it. Lance, what did you think? Okay, so New York City in 1990, right? This was like, this is either like what they call the most dangerous year or like the year after the most dangerous.

This was like the year that crime and rape and murder and all these crack use and all these wonderful things just like had their apex. in New York before I guess, yeah, the law and order came back in and the city started changing and, you know, becoming more of like a Disneyland for grownups type thing. But, uh, no, they captured it. Like, when you go into a park, not to make light of that scene. But when you go into a park and fucking 99 people out of, out of 100 are like thugs and gang members that are coming after you with baseball bats and chains and shit like that,

I'm like, did I get into a fucking street fighter video game? Or is this like what New York was really like in 1990? So I'm sure that Kaufman played with that quite a bit. I really love the fact that like in the first 20 seconds with the movie, you've got like a murder, a naked woman landing on a car and rails of cocaine, laid out on the car with these fucking Manhattan executives. I was like, all right. I appreciate the just like, let's satirize these like American psycho business guys and just hit for no reason related to the story or characters of the movie.

Yes, exactly. Let's just throw a dig at these assholes because it's like, it's almost challenging you. Yes. Oh, are you mad at us and what we're doing here with Kabuki film? Because these are the people who are actually ruining your life and the culture and the whole world. So maybe be mad at the real versions of these two schmucks. Yeah, good point. good point, man. And I thought

at first I thought maybe, oh, okay, cool, the cocaine's just a prop, and, you know, they're not going to really, I mean, there, I just, there were scenes where just sweat was pouring off the actors. And I'm wondering how much, number one, how much budget did they have,

right, total, and number two, how much of that budget went into recreation versus filming. So, they obviously had a lot of fun on set. It seems pretty evident. And I mean, it was definitely a different time, you know, 1990. Political correctness, I guess, wasn't even a thought yet, or if it was, it was kind of like on the sidelines.

So some things, some characters said this that probably shouldn't be represented now. And I mean, there should probably be someone held to account for it, but fuck it. I love the movie. It was so much fucking fun. The clown scene was amazing. I didn't realize it was that deep symbolically, but now I do, and that just adds another layer to the movie. But this has got to be one of those rewatched again and again and again movies, because, yeah, this reminds me of being a kid and staying up and watching these kind of movies. And it's just like one pratfall after another, one joke after another. It was, this was just a, I don't want to say masterpiece,

but I guess as far as the trauma movies that I've seen, this one's way up there for me. And the acting was actually, you know, pretty good. The Kabuki Man guy was pretty decent, you know? He was great. You know, and he didn't do a whole lot more than that. And I appreciated a lot of the casting, actually, because they had really, just really interesting character actors that I was like, this is cool.

Like, especially at that time in film, like you don't really see people who look like that, who act like that. Yes. I was really appreciative of that a lot. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, my final words, Philip, I'm a fan. Yeah, Lindsay, I had sort of the same reaction. Like, I expected to go into this movie hating it, and I sort of did for the beginning of the movie.

And I was like, man, this is going to be really bad because it was. Yes. But then by the end of it, it did kind of win me over. the the fight scene in the park after the uh the the rape stuff was actually a really great scene like I know he's chopped chopsticks at him and then you got like the Jewish guy in the corner he's like chopsticks you're supposed to use knives and books I know terrible beating up Bethead Duff Lunger right um Yeah, it was completely ridiculous.

Nothing really made a ton of sense, but that's sort of what made it fun. Yeah, and I like when he finally got his kabuki powers and he went cleaning up the city and just started, like, you know, murdering hookers and stuff. So, I mean, where I come from, we call that a serial killer, but whatever. In New York, it's a hero, you know? But yeah, I had a lot more fun with this than I expected to.

It was silly and stupid and very cartoony with the sound effects and all the trauma stuff that's in it. But when you think of trauma movies, like Brian said, Toxic Avenger obviously is the number one, right? and everybody knows that one. This should be number two. I had a really good time with it. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. All right.

So we score them on one to ten. What did you guys think about it? I'm going to go with seven. Seven. That's a big score for trauma. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

That's on the trauma scale. I'm surprised. I'm surprising myself right now with that. But I think it's a seven in my heart. You know? You listen to your heart. Yeah. My heart says five.

Like, I'm just in front of, I still might, I'm like undecided on whether anybody should watch it or not. I don't regret that I saw it. But would I do I, would I go out there and be like, hey, you ever, you should go watch Sergeant Capoogie Man? Maybe. I think filmmakers should see it. That might lose you some friends. Yeah. Yeah.

All right, Brian. I think seven is fair. I'm also going to go with a seven. Lance? I can't believe I'm saying this. This is an eight. Whoa. Yeah.

This is genius. I mean, yeah, the transformation scenes, the fact that he turned into the clown, that whole fucking tricycle chasing scene and unicycle. chasing scene car crash bullets into a kid's party I mean I just I just loved it too much

I mean I know this isn't a work of art maybe it is right art is in the Ivy Beholder so I just have too much fun with this I gotta go eight I'm gonna hate myself in the morning guys there was there were a few scenes

where I laughed out loud and like when the Dolph Lundgren turns into it, well, he's not really Dolph Lundern, but when the guy that looks like at Dolf Lungren turns into a, like, weanies in a shoe

and he's like, oh, I guess I really am a weenie. And then the final boss was sort of fantastic. I don't know what was happening, but it was kind of wild. He had this.

Great. I, he like, I don't know what it was. He turned into like this bug thing. And then he had like these Hitler heads on his hand and he made him make out. And then he had this like bug penis thing sticking out.

So weird. It's like they went so far off the rails that see, and I had five in my head the whole time. Yeah. And I think I'm at least going to go up at two, a six and a half

because I had a lot of... Right. Now, don't get me wrong. It was a terrible movie. It was terrible. I'm like a little homophobic and like racist, like whatever. But it was fun. And sexist.

We forgot sexes a little bit. But, you know, I had a good time. Well, you know, the race. Not the funny kind. All right. Yeah. On to Terror Firmer. from 1999.

Terror Furner. What you got here is your basic serial killer. You know, your killer's choice is a victim and it indicates some sort of personal animosity against you and your company. Family values must be saved. Yeah, right. Where's the blood? Where's the blood?

Homicidal Maniac is on the loose in a city and the low-budget film crew of trauma has the power to stop them. Director, of course, is Lloyd Kaufman, written by Lloyd Kaufman with Patrick Cassidy and Douglas Buck. It was based on Lloyd Kaufman's book, All I Need to Know About Filmmaking, I learned from the Toxic Avenger. Also, many scenes and characters are references to real events and people on trauma sets. I don't know what that means Whatever. All right. Lindsay, what'd you think about terror firmer? I hated it.

Assaulted to my core. My soul was unhappy watching it. No judgment to anybody who maybe liked it, who wants to give it an eight. But wow, I had a really hard time. I kept getting distracted. It was like pulling teeth. Like I was not, I was not in on this one.

I felt like it was too disjointed. I just couldn't. Like I said to you before, it felt like they just had a bunch of props lying around from other movies that they made. And they were like, let's make a movie where we can make, put all these set pieces in and like, and some tits. You know what I mean?

Like that's not forget that. That's a good description. I did appreciate that there were naked dudes. I did appreciate, because a lot of time in these kinds of movies. So it does get, like, it's like, hate, but with, like, a gold star. You know what I mean? Right, right.

Sure. It's kind of how about it. Everybody was naked. This was just like a soft move, soft for born. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the dicks and the tits were used pretty differently. You know what I mean?

The cits are there to be, hey, it's tits. And the dick is there to be like, ha, it's dick. You know what I mean? So there's a bit of a double standard. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. It's a little uncomfortable, I think, in...

Understandably, yeah. Anything else to say that? That's it? It was just uncomfortable for you. Uncomfortable. That's also a good description. I would say this about... We're on TerraFirmer, right?

Sorry, some guy who said to sell me on killing the bugs next door. Oh, I was trying to figure out what the hell. Anyway, neither here nor there. The trauma, I think, at their best, these trauma movements, movies to kind of be movies like they're inviting you into like the insider sort of cult circle of that gets these it's part of these it's these all these movies and it's like they're gonna be filled with these inside jokes and uh if you want and you like it it's like come there's gonna be lots of these there'll be a community of people that appreciate them and you know there's conventions and there's

I'm like off camera but we're not yeah um and I think Kabuki man does that effectively I think Tara firmer like maybe gets just too far up its ass to have that dynamic work where it feels alienating because you're no lot like instead of inviting you into the like look how fun this was to make look at this world we're going to do this crazy stuff it's it feels like they're so doing their thing that you're sitting there watching it and it doesn't feel like you're invited to participate it feels like they think they're cool they think they're awesome they're doing this cool awesome thing and don't you appreciate it but you're not but you're definitely not part of it as the viewer you're not part of the end joke i don't i haven't seen enough of the end jokes i don't like care about

like i know that these characters i can i get the vibe that all of these characters are based off real characters from the like trauma production world and that these are based on real stories that happened and like i know the thing is like vaguely based off a book about that copman wrote like and i'm just like i but i don't really know or have access to to that. So like maybe this works if you're 30 trauma movies deep and now finding it, but I think coming into it as I have where I'm like a casual appreciator of this genre, I was like, oh, I feel like this is just absolutely not for me nor enjoyable to watch. Yeah. Despite the fact that I think that some of the performances were actually surprisingly good. Not all of them, but I think that, you know,

and it's doing a lot of things that I was like, oh, I get it. Now they're doing a Rocky Horror and now they're doing this and like whatever but like ultimately it was a it's a it's a miss it's a miss for me personal it's a note for me dog yeah what'd you think man i thought this was a first watch for me until we got to the pickle sex scene and then it all came back and i was like this fucking movie you were traumatized i have to say i didn't like it then I don't like it now. This is... I tried to block it out before.

This is the perfect example of throwing everything into the blender. And this is what you get. If somebody doesn't understand what you're talking about, show them this movie, and you'll clearly understand. It was just too much of everything. I did... I kind of like the cameos from the Toxic Avengers, Sergeant Kubuki Man and stuff like that.

but at the same time it wasn't them it was just actors playing them it wasn't the actual characters are in this movie well they had some big name like cameos too like freaking Lenny shows up Ron Jeremy surprise surprise

yeah right it surprised me at all that these dudes hang out with Ron Jeremy the surprise the surprise Lindsay said he didn't get naked right yeah that's true he would have made a little more of an impact running around New York City naked.

Oh, yeah. That would have been like polar opposites, right? Yeah. No pun intended. But I can't say that I laughed a couple times, but the laughs were too far in between each of each other. It just, it was just too much. It got to the point where I think just like Lindsay, I was, I got bored and distracted through most of the movie. and I was pulling out my phone and checking emails

and doing other stuff. So it just, not a classic trauma movie. This is like far at the bottom of the list. All right. Lance, what do you think? You know what? Let me just throw a little bit of love to, you know, at least the passion, right,

of these guys doing this and all getting together to make the movie. And then, you know, Lloyd Kaufman doing his best blind director impression. and then I guess I got a little bit more, you know, from it, from watching that behind-the-scenes special and how they were doing some of the filming and stuff like that. But, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, this was a real stinker. No doubt, and no pun intended, with all the feces flung around and whatnot. And truthfully, and this was kind of like reiterated in the documentary that I watched, but there was just a lot of, and I don't know if this is because it was 19, and they were all starting to get to that phase of their heavy cocaine use.

But there was just like a lot of mean spiritedness. Not just in the, ah, just nastiness. Not just in the movie, but like, okay, I'll give you guys an example. In the documentary, you remember the guy that, the big guy that ran naked in the streets, of course, who could miss him. But when he was taking the spoon and eating the, you know, they snuck some real shit. Oh, no. That's fucked up, man. He ran into the toilet and he was fucking vomiting.

Oh, Jesus Christ. There's a lawsuit. Yeah. I don't know. I mean. Yeah, this was kind of rough, guys. Oh, my God. Poor guy.

I want to see the making up. Now I want to see the making up. That sounds way more interesting. Yeah. And it's just like a lot of just sick gross out. Which, you know, if that's done well, it's fun, right? a lot of, like early Saturday Night Live, right? Like, the original fruit, you know, putting chintillas and blenders and shit like that.

And then like Dan Aykroyd selling Halloween costumes to kids that weren't lame retardant and then lighting them and shit like that. That's funny. That's funny, mean-spiritedness. But this was just, to me, real tone deaf. I just, yeah, it sounds like a lot of us are really in agreement on this movie until Philip comes in a guess. It gives it an ape. What do you think? Yeah, no, man. This was way too much. It was like

it was raunchy for the sake of raunchy and gross for the sake of gross. And there wasn't a ton of story behind any of it. It was just like, oh, what kind of really disgusting scene can we make

next? Yeah. Mixed with some sex and boobs and and all that. Like, yes. I was like, dude, what? Yeah.

I wanted to watch a porn. I'd go watch a porn. What do we do? That's how I felt. I know. And, uh, yeah, I, I don't have a whole lot good to say about this.

And then I, at the end of the movie, I'm a little concerned because they had like a freaking 12-year-old girl in the middle. I think that was. Hoffman's real daughter. Well, it was his real daughter. Like, in the middle of a scene like that?

I know. I know. I'm worried about her. Probably not. I was, when I was watching this movie, my mother-in-law walked in. Oh, no.

And it really doesn't matter where I was. Yeah. It was. No shit. There's no good, yeah, there's no easy scenes. She immediately went to Lindsay and was like,

he's watching porn. Yeah. I was like, oh, it's for a podcast. Like, she came upstairs. She was like, so I walked in, and there was a woman with very big boobs bouncing around. Bouncing around. That's be more specific. Yeah, the tamest it got was.

the fat guy getting ground up in the escalator like a wood chipper. Oh, yeah, sure, sure. You know, I almost, but not quite appreciate the way that the film was kind of clever in the way that it would,

you know, they'd talk about, oh, we got the escalator bed or whatever for the movie that's within it, and then later after you forgot about that, then it shows up in the film. So there was some like, there was thought that really went into like, how to set up some stuff and pay it off later, and I applaud it for that.

My favorite part of this movie, I think, was the after-credit scene with Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Yes. They had the hermaphrodite whatever organization that Thomas. I don't know why it was funny, but it was Trayfactor and Matt Stone, so it comes. kind of was. But that like, okay, so those guys are funny. The rest is not funny. I mean, they really predicted the crisis over gendered bathrooms. Didn't see that coming. But yeah, this one was too much for me. I was like, okay, well, this is everything that's wrong with society. Yes, that's exactly how I felt. I was like, do I need to be able to be able to.

of this. I think I'd like to stay in my bubble. Yeah. Like I don't, I don't, I don't think I want to hang out with these people. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I like to, I can't remember even who said it now, but I like, was it Lance? Someone said, like, the thesis of like, this was just, this is what happens so many years into cocaine use. Oh. Where you're at the part of it where everyone's sort of their dopamine has been sapped. And so they're just mean and moody and the party's not fun anymore. Yeah. All they're synapses are just grinding on each other.

They're just looking for a way to feel pain. What if it's just tits and casual violence? Yeah. That gives me some kind of... Yeah, it's true. It felt like that. Sad. Yeah, sad.

We got to rate this now, right? That's who you were going to say? I have to give it a number. What do you think? What's the scores? Real quick, remind me what the lowest possible scores? Black Christmas, remember Black Christmas?

Yeah. Take it on yourself. I gave Black Christmas a negative score, I think, but typically one to ten. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. I'm going to, you know, one with a gold star for the dicks. That's how I feel. Just like a little twinkly, a twinkle in the one's eye.

You know what I mean? It was the little one, like the size of that dude's dick. Yeah, yeah. A little, tiny little twinkle. You know what? He had, I would say he has big balls, but we obviously saw him. And, but to run around New York City with a thing on his head and completely naked and obviously not very well endowed, he, I, what's he deserves a gold star? I don't know, silver star.

If he hadn't had a thing over his head, maybe gold star, it's braver if you show you. Right. Also true. But funny. Anybody can run around Times Square naked with a bag on your head or whatever. I'm not impressed. Not impressed. I'm going to give it a three.

And so I want to give it, you know, one point because I could be wrong. And then one point because, you know, it did make me feel smart for in the ways that I didn't like it. And for, you know, I got all the reference, whenever they have a conversation about, like, I forget exactly who they're even talking about. But they talk about sort of artsy films a bunch of times, and I was like, oh, yeah, I've seen all of those. Like, so a point for that. It felt like it was for me. I didn't care. But, you know, it's a three.

All right, Brian. This movie is a one. It proves that I do have a limit when it comes to trauma movies and terror firm was it. Yeah. Lance? Yeah, it's a one. That was an easy one. No, I do give it one, though, because I mean, yeah, there was some, there was some insider stuff that was kind of cool to see, you know, like little inside jokes. Like you guys had mentioned earlier, we weren't really invited in on that inside. It was like a little, you know, billionaire boys club or whatever, which of people that definitely are billionaires. I kind of like the fact that they did buttheads with the cops a lot. And again, you have to see the documentary to catch all that. But just for that alone, you know, that rebellious.

Fuck the Cops and New York and, you know, let's send a guy running around Times Square. You've got to give it a point for that. Well, and they had that random, like, punk music video in the middle of the movie that didn't make any sense. Yes. Yeah, I got to go on this one on this one. It was just, it was too much.

Like, I think I want to like trauma more than I do. I feel bad about that. But, yeah, this was not good. I don't want to watch it again. I kind of want to erase it from my memory. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Well, I gave it. I gave this. I was the highest on this one. Yeah. And I was the lowest on the other one. Uh-huh. Yeah, think about that. I'm not sure.

That's how it happens, man. That's how it happens. All right. Well, Lindsay. Lindsay and Nick, we appreciate you guys coming, coming by. Where can everybody find you on social media? Like, what do you guys have planned next? Or anything you want to talk about?

You can find me on LinkedIn. Oh, yes. Oh! You can find Hanky Panky at Hankypanky themovie.com. Or if you Google search Hanky-Panky movie, we will be the first or one of the first things that come up. You have to put movie in there because if you just search for Hanky-Panky, you get. There's an underwear. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. You can go there too. Yeah, I mean, they appear to have fine thoughts. We're never going to be able to compete in search engine optimization with an underwear company. It's just that's not, they're selling a better product than us. They're laced thumb. So we can't try. But if you search for hanky-panky movie or you go into your tuby or whatever and put

panky-panky, we're easily findable in all of those places and at hanky-panky movie on all the actual social media, Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and Twitter. And I am pretty much only on Instagram because, you know, I'm a millennial. So you can find me at Lindsay Hahn on Instagram. And that's H-A-U-N, right? What did you say?

That's H-A-U-N. Yes, thank you. L-A-N-A-U-N. Thank you very much. There you go. I got to say, better movie than both of these. trauma movies. Oh, wow. That's huge, because I really like that. That epic battle, that epic battle at the end

was just one for the ages. I mean, I just, you got to see it to believe it, you know, right? I think so. Yeah, I think so. The right duration for that fight scene, too. It is so long. It's just so long. It's just so long. I like that you can still see the string on the hat. tried to remove it. It's hard. It's hard. It's endearing. I liked it. Oh, yeah, very endearing.

All right. And for our audience, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Or just go to our website, thehorrorreturns.com. follow all of our socials and links from there. Next week, Philip is in heaven as we do Alien Week. Oh, yeah. We're going to be joined by Ian Plunkett, who has a short film out of alcohol, flesh, and blood,

to talk about a quiet place day one and attack the block. So until the horror returns again, Philip, good night. Thank you.