The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #429: Dead & Buried (1981) & Cuckoo (2024)
Episode Date: August 16, 2024It's Strange Town week at The Horror Returns as we check out the cult Classic Dead and Buried and the brand new Cuckoo. Cool of the Week includes Huesera the Bone Woman, Fire Country, and Sting. Trail...ers are The Monkey and Scared Shitless. The podcast spotlight shines on Gruesome Magazine. And we get feedback from Cameron Sullivan, Barbara Murphy, Kurtis Smith, Simon Douglas, Miche Strole, Denise Bigger, The Hathaway House of Horror, Rober R Barney, and Simon Andrew Luke Slattery. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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Greetings, victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify goal, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns.
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Welcome back, one and all, to the horror returns.
I'm Lance.
With me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip.
How's it going, guys?
What's up?
Good, man.
Same shit, different day, you know.
Yeah.
All right, well, Brian, it's official.
You and I will never get together again.
You're literally on one end of the USA and I'm on the other.
We're going to set roots down here in Melbourne.
We're staying in Florida.
I appreciate you said we'll never get together.
Dude, what is it like a 12-hour flight from Alaska to Melbourne, Florida?
I guess it's about as far away from Alaska as you can get.
It's like a flight to Europe or something, right?
Not as bad as Asia, at least.
He can see Russia from his backyard.
Yeah, I don't remember how long it took me last time I've been to Florida.
I know I got there within the same day, so.
So you have been to Florida before.
That means at least there's hope, right?
Yeah, I've been to Miami, Orlando.
I think somewhere else, too.
I can't remember.
That was like almost 20 years ago.
Probably New Smyrna Beach.
Have you ever heard of New Smyrna Beach, Florida?
No, I don't think I'll be able to forget that name.
The world's most dangerous beach.
It has a 76.4 out of 100 scale on hurricane probability,
and they average 184 shark attacks a year.
No, wasn't there.
Seriously?
Hey, where we are, it's like the ninth most dangerous beach in America.
They average 19 shark attacks a year.
here. That's like some
Australian numbers, man.
Why do you think they call it Melbourne,
mate?
We got nothing but like black tips
out here. They don't really mess with you.
Although there was a six-foot
hammerhead, like up on the bay.
Yeah, like
came up on the fucking, like
beached himself and then went back in.
Oh, shit. You got to bring
your board out here, man. This is the best
surfing in all of Florida. Oh, okay.
All right. Melbourne is the surf capital.
of Florida.
All right.
I suck.
We'll have fun.
Brian, are you a surfer?
I can't even swim, so I don't think it's, I'll take it's wise for me to get on a surfboard.
Hey, I'll bet Ness could do it.
He's a skateboarder.
It can't be that much different, right?
Yeah.
Except for the seasickness element.
We need to ask him, has he been on a surfboard?
We got to do that, man.
We've got to do it.
You guys have been pretty hot and heavy with the,
the extra shows lately. Tell us all about what's on there on the network.
Yeah, me and as we do action returns, wrestling, returns, stream fiends, bonus episodes
here and there. We used to put out a lot of extra shows and content, but lately just our lives
wasn't just lining up and we managed to get two shows out.
Well, that works.
So what are the shows that are up right now?
We did the brand new
Roadhouse remake.
The Gilli-Hollong.
That was a fun movie, man.
It was. I'm going to watch it.
And we were trying to catch up on wrestling.
We did Money in the Bank,
which was a couple months ago,
and we are in the next couple days.
I know last episode I said you probably hear of SummerSlam,
but we didn't get a chance to record it.
It's my fault.
But that's the next one up.
All right.
We'll check it out, man.
Appreciate all that extra content.
Keeps the network strong.
That on all your Facebook shit that you're doing, dude.
You're getting reels up and everything else, man.
What's up with that?
Yeah, I'm just trying to...
We've gotten a ton of new followers.
I appreciate everybody that follows and comments and likes and shares all our new content.
or so I'm just trying to supply the demand for
there it is stuff for people to I guess to look at I don't know
right do you know scrolling some shit that's not politics
yeah let's not go there yeah basically we got extra extra people so I just kind of
up our our stuff that we post all right well that works nice yeah
It's taken off, dude.
We appreciate everything you do over there, man.
That's your baby.
All right.
Cool of the week.
Who's going first?
I'll go first.
I only got two.
I watched two very depressing movies.
Okay.
The first one, I think, came out last year.
This was on a lot of top ten list.
Cusera, the Bone Woman.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, okay.
I've seen it, but I was really drunk, so don't ask me if the plot was...
It's subtitled in Spanish, so you do have to read some quite a bit throughout the movie.
It's a woman going through a pregnancy, and she's got this entity attached to her.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Okay.
There's a lot of body horror in it, and it's very well-filled, well-acted, the main...
actress did a phenomenal job the body horror stuff was cool but it was just a lady that in my opinion
probably didn't want to get pregnant or at least thought she did and what she did probably
didn't want to and started going through all the you know depression during pregnancy
and postpartum depression and she's got a possessed baby that'll happen little damien little damien
Yeah, there was a lot of interesting stuff in there.
It's definitely one of those, like, you know, she goes to some women to help, you know, fight the demon and they do some rituals.
And it does make you want to, like, look up some stuff.
It's, like, fascinating.
Uh, the bruhas.
Yes.
That's right.
I like it.
Then I watched another depressing movie.
This one I think came out this year.
It's on Shutter called The Dead.
devil's bath.
The devil's bath.
I've heard of it.
This is a period piece.
It's like, I don't know,
set in like the 1600s,
1700s, something like that.
Queen Victoria trying to give her cat a bath?
Now that's scary.
I don't know where this takes place.
This is again subtitled.
It's some European country.
This young lady,
she gets married.
It starts off like she's super happy with life, gets married,
and then life isn't exactly how she thought it was going to be getting married,
and stuff happens to her.
I don't want to really spoil anything because I think the movie just came out
within the past month or two.
So in the 1600s, would she even have a choice?
Whether she wanted, weren't most marriages like arrangements like arrangements?
range back then or
it doesn't
whoever is in your village or whatever
it kind of starts right when she gets married
okay
she's like she's definitely
in my opinion happy to get married
happy to who she's getting married to
until he takes her to
the house
and then he explains I just bought this
house and she's like with what money
and he's like the dowry I got
for your wedding
and plus I borrowed money so we're going to have to
pay that back too
all of a sudden
Did he turn her out or what?
No
There's an interesting
plot twist with his character
that I didn't see coming
Okay
And then there's the aspect
That she thought
They were going to live close to her family
Which they don't
Where the house is
It's not close to her family
They live more closer to his mother
And his mother
Think she's pretty much useless
Because she's not necessarily
the hardest worker
uh-oh
well that's that's a deal breaker
in the 1600s
yeah you had to do everything by hand
and the movie starts with a fucking
depressing
why did we have to do that in the first
10 minutes scene
they killed the dog
spoilers for everybody
go ahead skip like 10 minutes
it's a baby
being thrown down a
Waterfall and they show it from behind where she tosses the baby.
I'm like, oh, that's fucked up.
And then they cut to the beginning to the front and you see the baby tumbling down the waterfall.
And that baby was Hercules.
He got out of the water like this with all of his fucking pecks.
Which this, this was a separate lady that doesn't have nothing to do with the lady.
But it comes back later in the movie.
Gotcha.
A lot of baby trauma.
A lot of baby trauma in movies this year.
Yeah, that's what I was...
That's Lance.
I'm glad you brought that up.
This one, Nightingale.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I was telling my daughter, I'm like, I don't...
We need to watch some comedies or something.
She's like, why?
Yeah, no kidding.
Because I've seen, like, in the past few months, I've seen three movies where babies
have getting killed.
She's looking at me, like, what are you watching?
Like brutally murdered killed.
Yeah.
Not like they died by natural causes.
Yeah.
Throwing off waterfalls and smashed with rocks.
Slammed against a wall.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Woo.
Never going to get the blood out of this place.
So that's all I got this week.
Oh, I watched that first episode of the new Hard Knocks show on HBO.
What team are they covering this year?
Dub Bears.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Okay, okay.
Which is good because I'm interested in this new quarterback.
Caleb Williams, I think is his name.
Okay.
This is a big superstar draft pick they drafted.
It's supposed to be a quarterback.
They've never had the type of quarterback they never had in the history of the team.
Hmm.
Yeah.
A lot of pressure on him.
Yeah.
Could be a big year.
I'm trying to get back into football, but.
Or not.
Everything I read about the Cowboys is awful.
I think we have more teams here in Florida than you guys have in Texas.
So there's that.
We have three, right?
Miami, Tampa, Tampa.
Jacksonville.
Jacksonville, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
So take that, Texas.
San Antonio needs a team, except they're just.
I know, man.
They should have done one years ago.
Yeah.
I thought Redmond's got to bring on there.
all right well i'll jump in mine's are
oh hold on so brian which one wins out
for most depressing
yeah
most depressing is devil's bath
but
I would say I like
you sarah the bone woman more
all right
but I do recommend both
to watch I wanted to check that one out
I just kind of have to be in the mood for
subtitled movie.
Yeah, they're both
subtitled, and I think
I watch Hugh Serra on Shutter also.
I think they're both on there.
Okay.
But yeah, mine are
not horror-related at all.
And I actually only have
one that I can think of
off the top of my head,
although I'm sure I'll come up
with something at some point
in the middle of the show.
But the only one I can think of
is my wife has been watching
Fire Country on Netflix.
Oh,
That finally made it to Netflix.
Yeah.
Man, what a cheesy.
It's super cheesy.
What's fire country?
So it's these,
so it's like the,
you know how they have like incarcerated
firefighters in California?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, all right.
So like the story is based around
and it's the brother of the dude
from the Bates Motel.
Okay.
Oh, okay, I got you.
Okay, yeah.
And so he's, he's all royd
it out and got long hair now.
Does this at one point take place
in the forest? Yeah.
It's a lot of what you're talking about.
Yeah, because that's what they do
is they stop the forest fires, right?
They're digging lines and all that shit.
And it's a stupid, cheesy, like,
CW-style show, but
it's fun.
It's like, it's easy watching.
Yeah, it makes me go
maybe I should have been a firefighter
because I got a buddy
or a convict, right?
And then be forced to be a firefighter in California.
Even better.
It was almost a cop.
That's right.
But no, my best friends are a firefighter
and he'd been trying to get me into it for years.
I can be it, I'll know.
Yeah, my daughter's mom, her cousin,
was one of those firefighters where they dropped them
into the forest fires.
It's pretty cool.
Oh, wow!
Right in the middle of it, huh?
Yeah.
Forgot what they're called.
Something jumpers, right?
Like flame jumpers?
Oh, yeah.
Fire jumpers, something like that.
There was a movie about it.
Yeah, with the...
What's his name?
Ex-football player?
How we...
How we...
How we went down?
Yeah, I remember that one.
No, this actually is...
I thought I had already seen it
because I thought it was a movie at first,
because there's a movie that is just like it.
And I can't remember the name of it.
But it's kind of the same concept.
This ex-con comes into this fire jumper academy or whatever.
Right.
You're never going to make it.
You can't follow the rules.
And of course, it's him not following rules that saves lives.
Of course.
As happens.
That kind of situation.
Anyway, it's fun, but that's about all I've watched this week.
Oh, wow.
So Fire Country is your Cool of the Week on the Horror Returns.
Yeah, that's all I got.
That's all right, man.
Cool of the Week is Cool of the Week, right?
It could be anything.
It would be a rock concert, right?
So it's cool.
All right, you guys ever seen that movie that's been out a couple of months?
So it had a limited theatrical run here, a Spider movie, Sting.
No, it's on the list, though.
It's a fun movie, man.
It's really fucking fun movie.
It's directed by Wormwood, the Wormwood director.
That it is.
That it is.
It's not as out there as Wormwood, like with all the, you know,
using zombies to fuel your cars and shit like that.
It's not that far-fetched.
But the opening sequence, you would enjoy, Philip,
because it's obvious that it's alien.
in nature.
If you watch that very first opening sequence in the show.
And then once the little girl starts raising the spider,
it's like, this little fucking kid is evil, man.
It's like, one of those little girls like,
Mommy and Daddy, I must kill you.
I get a big spider.
It's like, this chick is something.
But there's some heartwarming stuff toward the end
with her and the stepdad, and that's cool.
Then you got some really fucking hilarious bug inspectors.
I got a little bit of a vibe of, um,
what was that one we saw
with um
help me out here Brian
erachophobia
oh no
arachnophobia
yeah
it had some of that
with the
with the you know
people that were trying
to eliminate the bugs and stuff
but
I gotcha
you know fun movie
I don't want to give away
any of the kills
it's uh
it I'd call it
almost a horror of comedy
but Brian you're gonna
you're gonna enjoy it
you're gonna enjoy it
I'll try to check it out
before next week
all right
or save it for our 31 days
if you want.
Oh, well, trust me.
We'll have plenty.
You find out every year
there's always plenty of
bullshit to watch.
I'm going to do what I did
last year, Brian, in
2024 movies only.
Yeah, me too.
So it's working out pretty well.
All right, cool. Brian, you got us some horror
headlines?
Horror headlines.
Let's see.
Crawl 2 is
currently in development with
Alexandra Ajae returning.
What's the hell we're going to do after that?
There's plenty of hurricanes somewhere.
Yeah, here in Florida.
Seems like an awful way to wait to make a sequel to that one.
Yes, that's kind of weird timing, huh?
They didn't jump on the bandwagon right away.
Last week, we talked about the horror video game
until Don Peter Stormer was reprising his role.
from the video game for the movie,
production has begun.
Nice.
Okay.
Always love Peter Stormair.
Yeah, he's a great actor.
I like him.
Especially when he has a Russian accent.
Yes, he does that, kill it.
Did you guys like
Zach Snyder's Army of the Dead?
Loved it. Love it.
It was in my top 10 that year.
That wasn't bad.
His sequel Planet of the Dead
is reportedly no longer in development at Netflix.
Oh, no!
We were going to get a TV series and everything, man.
Yeah, supposed to get an animated series, a spin-off series.
Like, they had a whole universe planned.
Bummer, bummer.
I don't know that that's all necessary, man.
I never even watched the one with the Safe Cracker guy.
That was pretty fun.
Was it?
Brian, I think that's where they fucked up, though.
It was fun, but it had nothing to do with the apocalypse except they kind of mentioned it or something.
Yeah, they should have stuck with the storyline.
Yeah, you're right, Lance, because you would hear about it, like on news reports on a TV in the background,
or somebody would mention something going on in this city, but you'd only know it was connected.
If you watched the Army of the Dead, then you would know the Safecracker Guy.
It wasn't quite as disconnected as like the Cloverfield movies to each other, but it was close.
That's a different story because they, from what I understand, what was it, 10 Cloverfield Lane and the Cloverfield Paradox were completely different movies and they just had it rewrote it to be Cloverfield movies.
Well, especially the Cloverfield Paradox. That had nothing to do with anything.
Yeah.
It's not that great either.
Good marketing, though, because I remember seeing the trailer for what was it, the Super Bowl?
Yeah, because it came on like right after the Super Bowl or something.
Yeah, it was like, watch the Cloverfield Paradox right after the Super Bowl.
And I was like, shit, all right?
Yeah, no kidding.
I was like, all right, give it to me.
That was one of those moments when your Netflix account went up $2 a month, right, in one fail swoop.
Oh, not cool the week.
Fucking peacock is going to $2.
What?
The cock.
what a bunch of cock
What else did you expect
It to get fucked from the cock
I'm like
I and you know what
I thought about cutting it
But it's me and Nez
Do the wrestling returns
And that's that's where the
WWE network is
So gotta keep it
But
Yeah
Ted got some pretty decent stuff too
Man I'll give them some credit
I'm probably more than Netflix
At this point
Like Netflix is easier to scroll through for me
but I guess
I kind of get bored
you know like
Netflix the Netflix has been cut over here
yeah what do you mean
I only get Netflix now if I have something
I want to watch
oh I got you so watch
Cobur Kai yeah done with
Cobur Kai
killed Netflix didn't renew it
the only thing I'm interested next to watch is
Squid Games 2 and that's not even
until December
So.
Oh, well, there you go.
Yeah, plenty of time.
Save some money.
Which, yeah, Squid Games, too,
uh, coming in December.
I think late December and they already announced the third season
and the third season will be the final season.
Oh, Squid game.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I know they need to hurry up and bring back that a Squid Game show
because that was pretty fun.
That actually was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
That same dude was on some other Netflix thing, too.
Oh, the athletic guy?
Yeah, I think it was a dating show, though.
Yeah, my daughter just told me about that.
She was like, I just seen him on some dating show, and I was like, what guy?
She was like, the guy we have both hated.
I was like the football player or whatever he was.
The douche.
Yeah, but you knew he wasn't going to go far.
Yeah.
He was making way too many enemies.
That's true.
He was definitely way too loud, but I totally got along with this guy.
All right. Phil, James Juan, and talks to actually direct something.
What? He's still doing that?
Preacher from the Black Lagoon Remake.
Okay. Well, he's got to take that one. He can't just give that one to somebody else.
Yeah. I think it would be a good fit.
His writing buddy, Lee Wannell. He's currently directing.
the Wolfman remake for Universal
so why not have James
Wine?
All right.
I'll take that.
Evil Dead Rise star Lily Sullivan
is set to star in the
Mithregan spin-off
Soulmate.
Okay.
The one we
kind of speculated might have to
do with like sex robots or something.
Oh, well that makes
sense. I mean, because you know
if the first
like realistic robots
are 100% going to be sex robots
but I don't know
if you guys seen that trailer
with Megan Fox
they've this
I think it's called movie of subservants
or something
they've already beaten Soulmate
because she plays an android
and in the trailer
sex worker the guy
no it's like a replacement for his
dead wife
to kind of take care of the house
and help take care of his kid.
But in the trailer,
it clearly indicates that he fucks Megan Fox
and she wants to take over.
So, so made...
That's exactly right.
My ex-wife looks like Megan Fox, too,
and I need a sex robot of her right now.
I mean, a cleaning robot.
And, of course, the internet is undefeated.
They've now, after the trailer, dubbed her Mithrigan Fox.
My three...
Oh, God.
That is hilarious.
That is hilarious.
but it looks it looks pretty interesting movie i just feel kind of bad for soulmate because
it kind of looks like what soulmate was supposed to be well they should have done it a year ago then
mithridan made a lot of money for them that you know i imagine we're going to have a bunch more
ii movies here pretty oh yeah yeah as as it gets more prominent suddenly the matrix is not
looking so sci-fi ah yes true let's see final destination blood
lines last time we talked about it
they were talking about it going straight
to max
okay something has happened
because now it is getting
a three theatrical release
and it will be an iMacs
oh wow
that's be a good movie
yeah something happened
maybe they screen some of the footage
and the exec was like
this cannot go to max directly
this needs to go to theaters
which one was this
Final Destination Bloodlines.
Oh, dude.
Sold. A final destination movie in the theaters?
Let's get it.
And finally, just announced a couple days ago,
we've got a Friday the 13th game.
We've got a Texas Chainsaw Masker game.
Last year, I think last year, we got an Evil Dead game.
Coming from the Evil Dead, the game developers were getting two Halloween games.
and John Carpenter is involved with the development also.
Okay.
You played the Evil Dead game?
I bought it.
Never opened it.
It looked pretty cool.
I know it has the characters from like the show.
And I think you can pick which character you want to be.
Oh, that's cool.
All right.
That's why I stopped buying video games because I never have time.
they end up sitting on the shelf and the plastic.
Yeah.
I keep like, I'll get a video game and maybe play through it.
Like, I'll be obsessed with it for like a week.
And if I can't beat it that amount of time, then it just stops.
So.
So we get playing through Spider-Man now.
So that was a worth ball by.
I want to play Spider-Man so bad.
My daughter just, she didn't just get it.
It's at her mom's house.
But she got a PS-5.
Oh, nice.
And I'm just like, your mom doesn't even know how to operate a PS5, so it's probably just sitting there.
Mm-hmm.
Bring it here.
Bring it over here.
Yeah.
I'm sure your daughter knows that operate it, right?
Oh, she, sometimes I got to ask her stuff.
Oh, yeah, that's how it goes.
That's how it goes.
I had a problem on her Instagram page, our show's Instagram page.
I had to refer to her.
She was like, oh, you need to go on settings and go to this and switch that.
I was like, oh, thank you.
Good thing she's there, huh?
Thank you, intern.
All right, that's the news.
All right.
Philip, you ready to go on down to the trailer park?
Let's go.
All right, well, then drive out to Florida, man.
There's plenty here.
All right, right.
Now, until the next hurricane comes through.
That's right.
Brian is going to bring us the big, the small,
and sometimes the very, very weird.
Brian, what's our first new trailer
we've talked about tonight?
First one is a teaser,
fresh off the success of
Long Legs, Osgood Perkins.
Oh.
Stephen King's The Monkey.
Lance, have you read this short story, right?
Yeah, I have read it.
I don't remember it because it was like
in one of his very first anthologies,
so I probably read it.
I'm going to say, Jesus Christ,
35 years ago
30 years ago
I am showing my age man
we're old
get off my lawn
and I believe
this is also
not only directed by
Osgood Perkins
but is produced by James
Wand
there you go
of course
you produce me
a fucking latte
the cracket
this stars
Theo James
he looks familiar
Theo James
Osgood Perkins
is going to be in the movie
Yeah
He does so much
Oz or Osgood
It seems like it just switches it up
Right
He goes back and forth doesn't it
I think he goes by Oz
Because I think there's another
Famous person from back in the day
Name Osgood Perkins
Okay
That makes sense
Let's see who else
Yeah that's the old school name
Although Oz is pretty cool
Got to say
Tatiana Mislani, She-Hulk is in this.
Okay.
Elijah Wood.
All right.
Head and see him in Wall.
And a bunch of other people.
I've always been an Elijah Wood fan, man.
Like, he's such a little weiner, but, like, he makes good movies.
He has such good ideas because he was asked what,
if he can remake a horror movie with his company.
I think it's Spector Vision.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And he's had such a good idea for a nightmare on Elm Street,
because he's, like, a true, like, horror fan.
Oh, I bet you he would do a good nightmare on Elm Street.
Yeah, I think his cousin, not his, he's a company.
I think they did Mandy and stuff like that.
Hmm, good stuff.
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
He's a cool guy, man.
He's involved in a lot of stuff.
Yeah, and apparently, according to Nez, because
Nez met him at Comic-Con, I think, was on the elevator with him.
Do not stare into his blue eyes.
Okay.
He'll steal your soul.
And my daughter agrees.
He just dyes his hair brown.
My daughter agrees because we were, well, we watched some movie, and he popped up in it.
And she was like, his eyes are so blue.
And I was like, no, stop.
Don't stare at his eyes.
You'll fall in the pit and never come out.
But what did you guys think?
A little short teaser.
Don't really know what to make of it.
It's Stephen King, Oz Perkins, James Wan.
I mean, that's got me sold.
Yeah, I don't think you can really put James Wan's name on it if it's James One.
You're getting pissed now.
You're taking the person.
Well, I'm just like it's not really fair.
Like, he's produced a lot of shit when he has no say in anything.
Somebody has to pay for the movie, Philip.
Yeah, I know.
But that's all he does.
He's the money man at that point.
Right.
Oh, that sounds like a good idea.
He's the pen.
He's the penit.
Yeah.
But that doesn't mean that he had anything at all to do with the movie.
The creative part of it, yeah.
Yeah.
True.
Let's see.
Cheat.
When twin brothers Bill and Hal find the.
find their father's old monkey toy in the attic a series of gruesome death start so would this
theo james be playing dual roles lans could be i don't okay now that kind of struck a chord now the
what i do remember about the book is or the story novella whatever you want to call it is there was
one scene where like the guy was laying in bed and he could hear the symbols from the monkey and
he would turn around and the monkey wasn't there and then like they were getting closer and closer so
it's creepy joy yeah it is really fucking creepy so um yeah on this movie man you had me at osgood perkins
this this dude can do no wrong by me right now that's fair os perkins is is like yeah he he's been
killing it lately so uh can't complain too much yeah i agree i don't know there would be much james juan
influence because if you go back and look at os perkins movies they're so specific to what he does
that I don't know
if maybe James
want to just help get the movie made
I don't know if he's going to have any
input
No
I'll tell you that right now
So this is due to hit theaters
I'm sorry Phil
February 21st
2025
Well
I guess that's not terrible
At least we're rolling up on that time
Yeah. I did actually check out Monkey Man at one point in the last couple of times.
And I was a little disappointed, I was. A little bit, too. I was a little bit too.
I expected more action.
Like, it had pretty cool action scenes, but it was kind of long and slow.
It had a lot of that Hinduism that like, you know, be one with the universe type weird shit.
Well, which is cool. I don't mind that. But like, it took forever to get there.
Like the acts, the badass action scenes were all like in the last 20 minutes in the movie.
Yeah, I was going to check it out.
I was sold on the trailer.
Then a couple people told me that basically the same thing you did.
It was more of a slow burn than the John Wick action.
Yeah.
It wasn't bad.
Yeah, it wasn't horrible.
I should probably watch it because it's on Peacock and now they're up in $2.
You get everything I can out of it.
you gotta get every drop out of the top as well i think that's where i watched it i was like oh i always
kind of wanted to watch that what is on peacock that is fantastic is abigail oh yeah yes i
rewatch that last week with a j great movie all right our second trailer is scared shitless
brian did they show us guys
in this trailer?
Yes, dangling when he was sitting in the toilet.
Is that allowed?
I just say my daughter was watching the trailer with me,
and I felt a certain way when I did.
They showed the nuts.
I looked over at her, and then she had just like, ugh.
Yeah, we just kind of just didn't say nothing after that.
A male genitalia is not particularly,
attractive, especially the sack.
They show to the nuts.
The daintling of nuts.
Lance, the reason
why I chose this trailer,
because I believe Stephen
Kazanski, who
directed Psychogorman.
Oh.
I believe he did all the practical
effects for this movie.
Did he make a fake nut? I bet he made a fake
nut sack. You know he did, man.
Knowing
Knowing from what we've seen of his movies, definitely.
For sure.
And something's going to happen to those nuts.
And the only person I recognize from the trailer is Stephen Og from The Walking Dead, Lance.
Okay. I don't remember who that is specifically.
He was one of Negan's right-hand guys?
The guy with a disfigured face?
I can't remember.
We don't want to go down this rabbit hole, man.
Yeah, I'll take your word for it.
He was one of Deegan's guys.
Stephen Og.
Oh, the guy that plays the plumber.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, right.
With the mustache.
Okay.
Yes, yes, yes.
He was good.
He could have fucking killed Nagan and taken over.
He was pretty fucking scary.
Yeah.
And who else?
Oh, Julian Richings.
he's been in a lot of war movies
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
So they got some recognizable faces
Some good practical effects
I know you were taken back by the CGI fire
I get to say
I'd go on the limb and say
Not all effects in this movie were practical
Just a wild guess from that opening scene
But I'm a big fan of Stephen Kazansky
A lot of if you go back and watch live
His movies
If you like them or not you can't deny
The practical effects are amazing
Oh, for sure, for sure.
So I'm definitely going to check this one out.
And I like a good horse.
This is probably going to be so bad it's good, but it might be so bad.
We'll see.
Yeah.
But at least they're shooting for the comedy aspect of it.
So how bad can it be?
They know what they are, right?
Yeah.
This one, I don't think it has a release date yet.
Looks like a direct video to me.
It is doing the festival rounds.
Okay.
Pick up a few awards and then go to TB.
Yep.
Seems like the way to go these days.
All right.
I think there's some people making bank on TB from what I hear.
Is it just the...
Where does their money come from?
Just the advertising revenue or what?
Well, they show enough ads during movies.
That's the shit.
be coming through like that.
Yeah.
I wonder if they
get paid more than
we're getting paid for our reels right now,
which is zero.
Ah,
we'll get them.
All right, that's it.
All right.
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I was not prepared.
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Cool.
Yeah.
Old horror news radio days, Brian.
Yeah.
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Yeah, but listen to many a show
Haven't we, Brian?
Yeah.
Oh, definitely.
Rest in peace, Black Saint.
Oh, man.
Yeah. Then they've got
the decades of horror show
on there now where they do the 70s and the 80s
and all that.
They're all over the place.
And I've never seen
podcasters who diligently go to so many
horror conventions. These guys are always
somewhere. Oh, yeah.
All right. And in regards to
the films covered in last week's
episode Cameron Sullivan says
nice mixture
all right thank you
well thank you
stage fright was a wild one
although I guess it sort of made sense
oh yeah the killer out
was that the same owl from
late night with the devil
from the
bohemian grove
looked like it
that's right
that's what it gave me
thought so
I think that's where they got the idea
from, don't you?
I wonder if it's the real bohemian grove owl.
Could be, man.
Barbara Murphy says,
Hi, guys, I just found your podcast
and listen every day starting from the beginning.
Oh, wow.
Then I found you on YouTube and love watching you
as does my cat.
Great show, definitely five stars.
Cool, that's humbling.
That's humbling.
That was pretty awesome.
Love to hear that.
You even went back to the dark days.
Yeah.
Yeah, the ones where we had to. Take all the music out.
And thank you to Barbara's cat.
Yes. There you go.
That maybe came out wrong.
You could have said it a different way.
It became not really wrong, but it would be.
Brian posted a poll.
Who is the better final girl and why?
Cast your vote, leaving us a comment and like and follow us.
Jamie Lee Curtis is killing it over Heather Langham camp right now with 85%
of the vote. But there's still time
to cast your vote. And I believe that
has grown even more, so
I think it's pretty well decided.
Yeah. Well, go check
it out anyway. Maybe you can make a
fourth quarter run there.
Check out the Horror Returns Facebook page for that.
If you're not a member, please become one.
It is awesome.
Post all kinds of good stuff. Well, Brian posts all kind of
good stuff. Let's
be fair.
In regards to long
legs, Curtis Smith says,
worst film I've ever seen.
Wow!
Respect your opinion, sir, but I think you are completely wrong.
It's a fucking guy, yeah?
It was a weird take on a
like crime thriller.
You know what I mean?
Like it was just, it was a little bit slow and archie for that style of film.
So it was a little bit...
It's been out long enough.
I think we can say, or I'll say, I was totally surprised by the supernatural element.
Yeah, I actually liked that. I thought that was pretty cool.
Yeah, I, Kate from Eternal Darkness said that there was like a whole mythology that
Osgood Perkins wrote up about the backstories of Long Legs and the characters.
You've all heard about this?
Oh, no, that's cool.
Yeah, like, we're...
Just whole stuff to characters that we didn't even get in the movies.
that's how far he went into creating this movie.
Nice.
And apparently what Nick Cage's character used to be like a glam rocker,
they get too much plastic surgery or something?
Oh my God, he's Vince Neal.
Oh, no!
It suddenly makes sense.
Now you get it.
In regards to House of Usher, Simon does.
Douglas says loved fall of the house of usher genuinely thought it was some of Flanagan's best work
Nice it was really good man he's been he's been killing it with every TV series that he's put out and I'm really excited for the Stephen King thing if that happens is that a thing?
He's doing
The Dark Towns
Yeah, that one
When is that coming out? Do you all know?
They're filming it right now
What's he filmed?
Life of Chuck.
That's a different Stephen King story.
Oh, okay.
Well, I don't know if it is.
It's got Tom Hiddleston, Loki.
Oh.
All right.
Boy, you put those two together.
I think they'll create something pretty cool.
Yeah, I mean, Mike Flanagan and Loki.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Can't complain about that.
Let's see.
Pan's Labyrinth.
Michael Stroll says one of the best movies in my catalog.
Nice.
is a classic.
Silence of the lambs.
Rob Cave says,
Vote Lecter in 2024.
That might be a hard sell.
Maybe not.
He'll just eat the other candidates.
He'll eat through the competition.
They'll have to keep replacing candidates,
and not just because of him dementia.
we're going to rule the world though
oh man
in regards to the others
um anthony cadiz
says uh one of a handful
that you could not see the plot twist
immediately very well made
agreed
I like that movie a lot
and I'm not a huge
what's her name fan
Nicole Kidman
yeah but I will say it's one of those movies
I don't think it's a great rewatch
Yeah, kind of like the sixth sense.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
In regards to session nine, that was good.
Yeah, a little obscure.
The Hathaway House of Horror says,
Love This Movie.
Denise Beggars says it's one of the best very underrated.
Yeah, it actually is.
Session 9 is a great one.
If you haven't seen that one, put it on the list.
Let's see, Dead and Buried.
Hey, the movie we're covering tonight.
Robert R. Barney says
this is one of the very few horror movies that actually scare me.
What?
Okay.
Simon Andrew Luke Slattery.
That's a lot of names.
Says, great movie.
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this is the road to potter's bluff
maybe you've been there
clean, picturesque, full of old-fashioned friendliness, the kind of town everyone likes to visit.
This is the road to Potter's Bluff. There is no road out.
Welcome to Potter's Bluff. From the creators of alien, terror brought down to earth, dead and buried.
Is there any way whatsoever to reanimate people after they have died to get them to walk around?
That guy, the one you came to see me about last week, but to die.
Sheriff Dan Gillis investigates eerie deaths in a sleepy coastal town.
All right.
Director is Gary Sherman, also known for Pultureguise 3.
Writers are Jeff Milar, Alex Stern, and Ronald Shusset.
That's a hard one.
And Dan O'Bannon.
I ran out of space.
And Dan O'Bannon.
Stan Winston's special effects
went beyond creating gore for the film.
The figure in the full body cast
lying in George Le Moyne's
hospital bed was a mechanical
dummy built by Winston. A lifelike
detail and elaborate movements
of the dummy was rigged
to make it give the appearance that a
real person
makes the...
that it's a real person and makes the infamous needle eye stab
all the more startling.
I thought that was a person.
I thought it was too.
They did a pretty damn good job.
Look at that, practical effects from 1981.
Yeah, beat CGI fire any day, right?
That's your fucking excuse.
And I think, I don't know if it's Dan O'Bannon,
I think he wanted to be left off as one of the writers.
Really?
Because I think he...
Regretted it after?
No, I think what he contributed, they didn't use.
Oh.
And he was like, if you didn't use what I wrote, don't put my name on there.
And I think it was too late by then.
Fair enough.
I would feel the same way.
I think it's Dan O'Bannon or one of the other writers.
Dead and Buried.
Lance, you want to start us off?
Yeah, this is really cheesy, man.
Like that very opening scene where the dude, the photography.
on the beach and you get the porno music playing like with a saxophone and shit she's like that was great
it was pretty fucking great dude yeah it was pretty fucking great man this this is one of those movies that like
kind of knew what it was i i thought there were there were like some kind of slow parts leading up to the
to the ending but once you got to that third act like for me that third act made the movie like all
bets were off. It was just like one Twilight
Zone episode that, okay, cool,
so that's how it's going to end, and then they have another
twist, and then you're like, oh, shit,
wow, they're burying him, so that's how it's
going to end, and then you get another twist.
And it was like, oh, no!
That was fucking nuts, man.
So, yeah, this was a
really, really original movie.
It was, I don't know,
it was so much fun to watch. So, okay,
so what all were they making
commentaries about? Obviously, plastic
surgery, right? Was
was plastic surgery just starting to be a big thing, like when this movie was made or what?
I'm not too sure.
Yeah, because I think the 80s, right?
Like repairing the zombie stuff?
Yeah, I definitely saw some like, it kind of like death becomes her sort of picked up on that later.
But I definitely saw some of those vibes and then like, you know, following the leader.
Like, you know, this, this old man, you know, that looks like a friendly grandpa.
in fact it was grandpa do from charlie the chocolate factory yeah it was his uh final final movie
oh man he died he died a couple months after but did he but did he all right he would say i'm i'll be
dead but i won't be gone ha ha ha ha ha ha yeah man this was a lot of fun this was a lot of
up from his hospital bed in hell.
Yeah, that's right.
I had no idea that this was going to take the turns it did.
It started to lose me a little bit, a little over halfway through,
and I'm like, that's not how zombies act.
And then you saw the teacher in the school, the, you know, the ship, their deputy or sheriffs
or whatever wife talking about the ritual and all that.
It's like, okay, well, we know what's going to happen.
This is for sure.
We know she's one of them.
But, yeah, the final twist got me good.
I didn't see that coming at all because I was.
Oh, yeah.
How come this one sheriff is the only person in this whole town that seems to be sane?
And then at the end, you find out, hmm, okay, all was not as we thought it was.
Yeah, he just didn't remember.
He couldn't remember.
I was going to say, it seems like that it killed the sheriff at the beginning, but I guess.
Well, it was cool seeing Freddie Krueger in an early role, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, it took me a second to realize that was him.
Yeah, he just looked like an all-American boy.
Remember, Romero changed what zombies are.
True.
Before that, it was like this.
They were like...
Just like hypnotized or whatever.
In your will from like voodoo priests and shit.
Yes.
New Orleans.
Very true.
That's a good point, man.
That's a good twist.
What did you guys think about the movie?
Brian?
I loved it.
I had a lot of fun.
This is my second time watching it.
I think I watched it for the first time a couple years ago.
I heard it was kind of like a cult classic.
It has some rewatchability, that's for sure.
Yeah, I have not heard of it, but if it's called a cult classic,
it has to be for a certain reason.
And I agree with you, Lance.
This is a lot of fun, especially that opening sequence.
Like, I agree with you.
I loved it.
The slow, sexy porn music that was playing,
I'm like, this guy's...
Right.
he's about to get it in with this
lady that
comes, for a second I completely
forgot how the movie went, even
though I've already watched it. I thought
they already knew each other
and they were playing some kind of game.
Yeah, well that would make more sense
than what happened. Yeah,
she kind of lures him in and then they
beat the shit out of him. Yeah, I
fucking burn him. I love
practical effects.
Right?
Stan Winston is definitely
a legend.
What was the pictures?
I'm assuming for for the, for Grandpa Joe to do his repair work.
Oh.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Well, he was a very talented mortician, huh?
To take a burned husk of a body and turn it into a fully walking, talking, sentient, you know, fully skinned human.
Well, you find out later he's been doing experiments on corpses for a long time.
because he used to be like a high level
whatever
I forgot I forgot what kind of doctor
but he had a high level
job before and he got in trouble with doing
experiments so he's been doing this for a while
so he's a master
of the game
yeah the only
thing that kind of takes it out a little bit
for me is the actor that plays
the sheriff
I couldn't tell if he was like
really putting into acting or
if he was just
fucking being over the
top. There was... Coked out of his brains.
Yeah, there was
James
James Farentino
a share of Dan Gillis.
There's some scenes where I'm like
you're putting, you're doing a pretty good job
of acting and then other scenes he's just
flying completely over the fucking top.
That's a good point.
And I just couldn't understand it.
1881 baby he didn't he did not see his uh he just couldn't believe he couldn't see his wife as being a little odd
Yeah especially with the whole
teaching voodoo and stuff to children in class
That's when you're like wait hold up what? Because clearly she's not done stuff like this before and now it's just a great idea to teach death and voodoo and all
kinds of stuff, raising the dead.
With the sacrificial dagger?
Yeah, maybe don't take that to a bunch of kindergartners.
Which, it did lead to a great scene, though, with the reveal that she is one of them and he
shoots her.
Right.
Yeah.
And then later, she's just begging him to bury her because she doesn't want to be that way no
more.
Right.
I thought that was a great scene.
And then, of course, the reveal that he.
is one of them. He turns around in his
hands, his fingers are falling apart
and Grandpa Joe's just like
I can fix that for you.
A little lip here, a little
tuck there, huh? There you go.
But super fun movie.
The effects are good.
I say it's not
so bad it's good, but it's kind of
bordering on that
level. It's a fun
one. Yeah, maybe.
but I
don't even know that I'd call it bad
like this is a movie
that
that started out
and I was like
ah great
an old 80s
jeezing
for movie
here we go
and then man
this one sucked me in
it had me paying attention to it
which is great
because some of them don't
yes
it's the rare one
but yeah
I'd like
there was so much
wild stuff going on here
um
I don't even think it was really that bad.
I think it was just really interesting.
They had a good storyline that was kind of unlike anything that I've seen before.
Yeah, pretty unique, right?
Yeah.
And really the only thing killing it is that it's from 1981.
Like, if they re-made this one today, it could be a really good movie.
Yeah.
It's out there now.
down the universe for i would like them to kind of put more emphasis on um because basically they were
like people that would come into town they would kill them and then make them like them to
add to the city this small little town i kind of would like to see what happens if because it's
it's a small little town now but what if they keep adding people the town grows and grows and grows
Why were they murdering people?
Because, like, I feel like the sheriff seemed to have his own little, like, his own free will.
Seemed to, yeah.
The rest of the townspeople were just like, oh, you're like an alive person.
We're going to have to murder you.
Doesn't seem to make that much sense.
That's a part, is it?
Well, I think they'd rather make people like them instead of just because...
normal people probably won't react well to being around a bunch of zombies well that's probably true
and i think he he was the sheriff was just the one that just kind of it took him a while for some
reason when he became one of them he retained all his old memories up until the point he died so he just
maybe he was the newest member it had a little bit of a town that dreaded sundown kind of a
feel to it.
But yeah, man, I actually dug it.
I thought it was a pretty good movie.
I was surprisingly impressed with it, especially from, you know, 1981.
Right.
All right.
Scores, Lance.
Seven.
Seven.
Okay.
Yep.
Brian?
Seven and a half.
Seven and a half.
All right.
Yeah, I think seven and a half is a good score for this one, man.
I thought it was
pretty interesting for what it was.
Like,
it totally grabbed my attention and sucked me in.
And that doesn't,
like a lot of these older movies
that are pretty cheesy, man.
I'll start playing with my fucking phone
and I'm not paying attention to it.
And this one made me put the phone down and watch it.
I liked it.
All right.
On to the next one.
The brand new
Cuckoo!
If I were you.
Why did you bring us here?
Your family
belongs to you.
That's a fucking weird way to put it.
You told the police that you were chased by a woman.
I think I'm crazy.
Nature is quite remarkable.
It feels so good.
Species need our help.
Our quest for preservation.
From 2024, a 17-year-old girl is forced to move with her
family to a resort where things are not what they seem.
Director and writer is Tillman Singer, also known for Luce and El Fend de Mundo.
Originally scheduled to release on May 3rd, but it was delayed until August 9th for undisclosed reasons.
Uh-oh, I think we have a conspiracy on our hands.
I think that had to do with the strike and stuff like that.
well that probably makes more sense but why would they not disclose it huh aliens brian that's why
you've cracked it open all right well since lance ran off do you want to start us out on kuku
yeah um i actually ended up really liking this movie i thought it was weird to the point not to
the point where i couldn't follow anything because i think if it would have got too weird then i would have
kind of checked out with it.
I thought the lead actress Hunter Schaefer,
I thought she did a great job.
Dan Stevens, again,
this guy,
killing it.
Every fucking role, he is just,
he's now,
okay,
let me stress this first.
He is a great actor.
I've seen him put to work in,
but when he hams it up,
he is a lot of fun,
and he was hamming it up in here.
You think?
And just,
just,
Hunter Schaefer with her being serious and then
Dan Stevens on the other side being kind of
kooky and wacky.
Right. It worked for me and then
you got the
Jessica Henwick. I don't know if you guys have seen her before, but
I did not even know that was her in this movie. She played the ball. The one from
Daredevil, right? Yeah. It was it not Daredevil? Iron Fist, I think.
Yeah, Iron Fist. Okay.
I did not recognize her as the mother
Wait a minute, that was the mother?
Oh, holy fuck, I didn't recognize her either.
She's grown, or she looked older somehow.
I think they just made her look older than the mom.
Wow, I did not even realize that was her.
And I thought the production was good, the cinematography, the direction, the direction.
Love the story.
I think I was able to figure out what was going on.
were you a little bit quicker than I should have but other but that didn't take the fun out of
me and then the the reveal I thought was pretty cool and I kind of wanted that's
probably the one little drawback I kind of wanted more on what was going on with the
experiments I guess that's all I can really say about that I have a lot of questions
but I'm going to save them to sweat up okay
well i'll just pass it over to lance because i feel like i'm getting close to spoiling some stuff
it's going to be hard not to spoil this one i i would say yeah brian everything brian said is
is is true well most of everything brian said i thought was true i you know i have some questions
about the story but we'll get into that but yeah actress was phenomenal like totally channeling
a young, a very, very young Jody Foster.
Like, you've seen a lot of those older Jody Foster movies like Candlewick and stuff like that.
That was fucking spot on.
I see it now.
Not that you say it.
And a trans actress, right, Brian?
Yep. Yep.
From Euphoria.
At one time, she was a he.
And you couldn't really, there's no way you could tell, you know, from looking at her.
So, yeah, it was a great performance.
for sure from Hunter is a great performance.
Dan Stevens doing Dan Stevens stuff, man.
This dude, man, that fucking piccolo that he got from Ice-T
from Leprood in the hood, that was great, man.
That little...
He said some lines.
I should have wrote them down.
Uh-huh.
I can't remember what he said, but it was near the end.
And I should have wrote it down.
But the way he delivered it, I'm like...
Nobody but Dan Stevens right now in my head could have delivered those lines better.
And he's British, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Philip, there is only...
Did he have an accent in this one or no?
Oh, you didn't see it.
I didn't see it.
Not only did have an accent, but he had a very strong German accent.
Well, welcome to the comedy.
You may be assimilated.
Aye, from a.
He might be the MVP.
year he will be because I mean think about it honest horror actor going right now you get you
get wacky Jim Carrey type character in Godzilla and Kong yep you get like Jim
Kerry mixed with Brad Pitt yeah you get somebody that you completely
disliked in a good way it wanted to punch in the face and Abigail right yep
yeah and then you get this character and cuckoo
And yes, that damn flute.
That's almost like a Nicholas Cage type scenario, right?
Like where he could play any kind of part.
And he, yeah, he's definitely coming into his own.
I want to see where his career takes him from here, you know?
And Lance, there's rumors that they're going to do the guest, too.
They need to.
Yeah, they definitely need to.
And that one, that is a completely.
different character than the three I just talked about
because that is a cold calculated killer, very serious.
Yes.
That one seemed more in line with the Marvel show that he did.
What was it called?
Legion.
Legion.
Yes, that's right.
It was a pretty good show.
I don't think I ever finished it, but...
I couldn't finish it.
It was too deep for me, man.
Yeah, the first...
It was like going off on tangents and...
Yeah, it was.
The first season was pretty awesome, though.
I'll give them credit for that.
True, true.
All right. So Brian, all that was great, dude. Like you said, the cinematography, the beautiful Bavarian countryside and all that. And then the really weird, like, institutional looking place. Like, when you go into this, it's supposed to be like a really warm, welcoming place. But you go in and it's like you're in a mental institution or something, you know, or a hospital.
Yeah, it's completely, it's supposed to be a resort. But when you're looking around you're like this, exactly how you described is.
it looks like.
Not a very comfortable resort, right?
And then you've got these odd people kind of walking around having some kind of reaction.
And Dan Stevens, like, oh, that's normal.
Okay.
Well, I was going to say something.
See, I don't want to spoil anything.
But did you get a little bit of a vibe of a cure for wellness here?
The setting and everything?
So you remember that one, right, Philip?
You just wanted the great Dane to Honda.
With the great name to Hyundai.
Isn't it funny how he just worked that in there?
Yeah, but all that stuff was really well done.
Like technically, it was a gorgeous movie, and it was very well-acted.
And, you know, you're telling me that that was, you know, the chick for Iron Fist.
I'm like, wow, holy shit.
And now I'm thinking back, that was, that was her.
I'm like, that's crazy.
But at that point, this maybe completely loses me.
Because you have this little thing called script.
You have this little thing called Story.
story. And to me, this movie was a fucking absolute total fucking hot mess.
I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
At the third act, it became even worse. It got even more convoluted.
People were doing stuff that's like, okay, that's really kind of neat up front.
I wonder why they're doing that. Then they explained it.
Like, they wouldn't do it like that.
They wouldn't, if somebody had prayed.
You all ready for spoilers?
Well, Phil's got to give his opinions first.
Well, I don't have any opinions because I haven't seen it yet.
All right.
Oh, right.
Scores.
Philip pulled the Lance this week.
Yeah, man.
The closest theater that was showing it was like an hour and a half away.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's not worth it to see Dan Stevens playing a flute.
I know.
Well.
You missed out.
Depends on what kind of flute it is.
I'm waiting for the means, man.
And Phil, those flute sounds Lance was making, that's exactly how it sounded.
He was playing.
We had Grandpa Joe in the first movie.
and then we got Willie Wanka and the flute in this one.
Yes.
The Oopalupa.
That's what I was thinking.
It's all connected.
All right, score.
Seven and a half.
Wow.
I thought this was a really strong movie.
Oh, I can't wait to hear why.
I can't wait until I get to ask you a few questions and you tell me if I'm all wet.
Maybe I'll change my score after the spoilers.
We'll see.
We'll see.
What's your score right now?
Two.
Oh.
Two.
You, after trash, dude.
Trash.
Yeah.
Night swim is a master.
Night's,
Night swim is citizen cane.
Out of here.
Night swim is Citizen Kane compared to this.
After basically almost an entire,
your entire review was kind of gushing over the movie.
You give it a two?
Absolutely.
Yeah, because see, I like, I like,
this thing called plot and story
Brian. This little thing called
plot and story and it kind of has to make
sense to me for me to enjoy
it. So you're going to explain, you're going to
Brian explain to me. No, wait.
Before we get to spoil,
you explain to me why
you're getting so many compliments.
Right. And then give it a
two and then say night swim
is better. It is.
And it's all about the story,
man. It's just like I couldn't follow it.
What story was a night? For no reason.
that you've got this creature
with the red eyes and the sunglasses
that was like Cyclops from the X-R-R-E.
Okay, are we in spoilers?
Yeah, spoilers.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
All right.
Why the fuck?
Brian, why the fuck?
Were they throwing up everywhere?
Dude, help me with this.
The people that were walking around the resorts?
Yes, because they were pregnant.
Because they were being experimented on.
Okay, so it wasn't just a pregnancy.
It's because it was like the drugs he was given them and the weird.
Well, probably a combination.
I'm starting to understand a little bit more now.
They were, of course, I mean, we don't know why Madman do what they do,
but he was trying to alter and improve on humans.
make better
whatever.
About halfway through this movie, Brian,
Dan Stevens started to remind me
of that guy on the Netflix special
where he was like sneaking his jazz
into all the little cups
and shit like that
and impregnating all the women
so that he's got like 16,000 relatives
all in one town or something.
Remember that?
It was crazy.
And that's what he was doing, right, Brian?
He's not necessarily, dude.
Not necessarily.
Oh, my.
God, please explain. I was so lost in this movie, dude. Well, that little girl wasn't his.
The little girl wasn't his. Okay. Okay. True. Hunter Schaefer's sister. But yeah, okay.
All right. Was he impregnating the bill with his sperm at some point or no? It was like
Lerzden. If that's what was happening, I totally missed that part.
Yeah, I don't know, man. I mean, okay. And then what about the way?
that fucking weird creature, the chick
out in the woods with the red eyes and the
sunglasses? What was that all about? Was
that his first experiment gone wrong or something?
That was where
the eggs were coming
from, the fertilization.
Like an insect man?
I'm down to one and a half, guys.
Sorry.
I can't with this.
Wait, hang on.
I'll stick it to. I'll give it some
respect for Dan Steven.
So there's a weird chick in the woods
with red eyes that's like
the queen bee and she lays all the eggs
basically
okay
like I said this movie gets weird
in a good way
it got very weird
in a bad way for me
in a bad way Brian
well then I don't
I really honestly
I don't understand your two
good because you said nothing negative
about the movie
yes I did I said the plot
the story sucked
that's all you needed to know
that's supposed to
important part of a movie to me.
And
you must have broken your rule for
Night Swim. Yeah,
big time.
Busted.
Yeah,
if I had a chance to review
Night Swim again or rewatch, that I guarantee
it it wouldn't be a six. I'll never
live that down.
But this ain't no seven and
a half, dude. Come on, man. Really?
Just because of the visuals.
I get, no, I get it.
Oh, not for the
I thought it was creative.
It was definitely creative.
Whatever the lady was,
creature, whatever she was supposed to be a hybrid
of something. I thought that was creative.
I thought the connection
to
the children
that were supposed to be part of the experiments.
I like the connections they had.
There was one really cool
scene, Brian, in a
library where they both had guns.
and the people were holding each other up against each other.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, because each person, Dan Stevens and the detective, they were there to kill.
The other one.
That was pretty cool.
That was creative.
I'll give you that.
That was a great shot.
Was it creative?
I think so.
I think so.
Have you ever seen that before in a movie?
I don't know.
I don't think I've seen that.
Honestly, I'm kind of blown away by your review right now.
Yeah, I just didn't enjoy it, man.
I mean, like you said, it's opinion, right?
I might go back and rewatch it a month from now and come back just drooling about it.
It'll be my cool of the week, you know?
Phil, I don't think so.
I'm interested to see you watching it.
Yeah, Phil's got to be the tiebreaker here.
Yeah, because this movie blows night swim out of the water.
Well, that's...
You gave...
That's not hard to do.
And you gave this one a two.
I did.
All right.
I'll watch it as soon as I get the chance when it's out there.
It might be out there pretty soon.
Yeah.
Did it do well at the box office, Brian, or do you know?
I think it made a few million, but I don't think the budget was higher on this one.
Yeah, I doubt it.
Obviously, limited release.
Yeah, if you weren't able to find it.
That's a plumber.
Yeah.
That's a bummer.
I think I did see something on it.
All right.
Brian,
I think this is a case of my expectations were too high for it,
because I really wanted to see this movie, man.
I was super pumped about seeing it after the trailer.
And to me, it just didn't live up to the hype.
But, yeah, like I said, I may go back and rewatch it next month.
And if so, I promise, I'll bring it back as cool of the week.
And I'll say, Brian, you were right.
And Lance, you were wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Won't be the first time, won't be the last time.
Guarantee you that.
Let's see.
Hunter Schaefer's horror movie Cuckoo debuts with 3 million opening weekend.
Okay.
Well, that's probably a lot more than they spent on it.
Yeah, that's respectable.
Respectable, right?
Although, I wonder how much, I wonder how much Dan Stevens is going to cost to get him into a movie after this year.
A lot more.
That's a good point.
They might have spent most of that on him.
Yeah, or the flute, or Ice Tees flute.
Because they had to go, think about it, Brian.
They had to go and raid whatever movie, you know, movie memorabilia museum has the
leprechaun stuff.
They had to take that fucking magic piccolo, and they had to pull it out of ice,
ice tees, hopefully not cold dead hands, and give it to Dan Stevens.
He's still a lot.
With his German accent.
I think I just saw him.
I haven't actually listened to it,
but I think he had like a new body count song.
Oh, dude, I love body count, man.
Yeah, they were like a hunk-wrap metal thing.
You can't even classify him.
They're their own thing, dude.
They're their own thing.
Cop killer.
Uh-oh.
It's got to be edited off YouTube.
Anything else, Brian, to add?
You have a total defense, but I might re-w it.
I am going to re-watch it.
You've absolutely convinced him much.
Once you said night swim, there was no convincing you.
I guess not.
Trying to pull up Dan Stevens to do what he's got coming up.
I was kind of curious about that, too.
Is he going to go full Nick Cage where he does like 12 movies a year now?
I think he should.
I think he should too.
And just having it up and all of them.
get this guy's Dan Stevens and Nick Cage
in the same movie together
and Dane Dahan is the villain that they team up to go after
Well you had a good idea there
Until we got to that huh
I don't know man
Dane Dahan does play a pretty good villain
True
Yeah that little series he was in
Oh he's gonna be in the terror
The new season of the terror
Dane Dahan
No, nobody
Oh, Dan Stevens, okay.
Yeah, he's got some...
That'll be back to serious, Dan Stevens.
Got some movie called The Ritual.
Sounds serious.
Isn't that already a movie?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure it's already like 10 movies.
Yeah.
But the ritual, he'll be in the movie with Al Pacino.
Oh, all right.
Fucking Al Pacino and Dan Stevens.
So,
So,
No kidding, man.
So,
but Brian,
is it,
is it in the movie
with Al Pacino or Alpa
Chino?
I just hope
it's not Dunkicino
from,
uh,
what was it,
Jack and Jill?
Oh,
God.
Holy shit.
Wow.
That's a blast
from the past,
man.
Gosh.
Al,
you're a legend,
but I hope you seriously
got paid a lot of money
for Dunkachino.
Wow.
Hey, man.
Adam Sandler's my boy. I like him.
Yeah, he can do no wrong, right?
He's done plenty of wrong.
You guys ready to sign out?
He's also got some greats.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, with a big old ass.
Weren't they supposed to do a sequel to Billy Madison?
I think they are, right? The older Billy Madison?
I heard somebody talking about it.
I hope so.
Yeah. All right. I think he'll probably burn through his millions and like he's on Skid Row and has to go to school again.
Or he has to go to trade school. He has to be an electrician, Philip.
Maybe. He was just on Rogan. I haven't watched it yet.
Right.
I'm interested to watch that one because I've always been an Adam Sandler fan.
Absolutely.
All right. Anything else, Brian?
No, that's it.
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Next week should be fun, and Philip's going to be in heaven,
because we're going to check out the new Alien Romulus.
Fuck, yeah.
As well as Gay Over, man, otherwise known as aliens.
I think I'm going to watch the documentary, the six-hour documentary, Brian, to prep for that.
Okay, reviews are starting to come out on Alien Romulus,
and the reviews are really good.
Oh, okay.
A lot of them are saying the ending, the finale is,
crazy.
Okay.
But they are saying before, if you, if you can, before you watch the new one, watch
Alien and Aliens.
All right.
What about Alien 3?
They have that same exact scene with the thing coming out of it.
I mean, if you, if you want to, I mean.
Yeah, I know.
That was the only thing I was like, all right.
We're, we're recreating some Alien 3 scenes here.
What are we doing?
but that's what a lot of reviews I've seen
that said if you get a chance to watch the original two movies
because this movie takes place between those two
oh awesome yep so probably watch the original
and then this and then aliens right
and if anybody if anybody has Hulu
they have every single alien movie that's been made
on there awesome I do too on DVD
Dude, one of the few DVDs I've gotten.
The alien movies are all pretty solid.
Like, when they get off into the Predator Universe, they get a little squirly.
But like that...
That's based on the comic books.
Right.
But the alien standalone movies are all pretty good.
Right.
All right.
Well, on that note, Brian, until the horror returns again.
Good night.
