The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #430: Aliens (1986) & Alien: Romulus (2024)

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

We get spacey this week with our great friend Steve Carleton. Cool of the week includes Lowlifes, We Are Zombies, The Boys, and Alien. Trailers are Frankie Freako and Azrael. The podcast spotlight shines on Spooky Chicks and Horror Flicks. And we get feedback from Steven Lowblad, David Barta, Don Lowery, Robb Caves, and Honna Elise. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance. With me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian. And we got Steve Carleton in the house, our Wundercin, our artiste, the guy, the man of a thousand teeth. shirts what's going on steve not quite a thousand yet but getting there getting there what's up fellas how's it going what's up good good thank you for having me back thank you no we're just rocking behind the rose man i'm just happy that we're not doing a children of a corn movie tonight

that's that's no not yet that's that's on the schedule though i'm sure somewhere all right so what's going on with the geeks man i'm i'm two or three or four weeks behind because you can you guys put them all up like at once. Yeah, well, yeah, that's because we, a little, we've been, we've been really focusing on the YouTube stuff. So we've been kind of dropping the ball and releasing the audio versions. And that's, I'm just going to blame a little. But he's got a lot on his plate. The man's dealing with a lot from work and college and all that.

So it's tough. We're not getting paid for this, you know? It comes out when it comes up. There you go. But we did, we've been doing some cool stuff. Like we had this superhero draft a few weeks ago. That was a lot of fun. That I heard.

That I heard. That was a lot of fun. We actually got some listeners wanted the, I created these new logos. We created these teams. Those five of us, we all had different teams and different logos, and we did a whole draft of a bunch of superheroes to make our teams. And I had some listeners reach out that were interested in getting T-shirts and stuff of the logos that I made. So I went through and actually redid all the logos and made them way better and added a whole bunch more detail and cool stuff and put those all on T-public.

and theirs have actually been kind of taken off a little bit, so that's been fun. And then, yeah, we're just been doing the 31 days of horror. We've been cram in horror movies, just watching a lot of stuff. So knocking those out. Nothing wrong with that. So what possessed you to pick Morp as your number one draft pick? I panicked. I panicked.

All my first draft picks were gone. I wasn't expecting to get the last pick, man. It fucked me up. Yeah. Who would you have taken? Dr. Manhattan, of course. He was my first pick. And pick five in front of me, picked, or pick forward picked Dr. Manhattan, which really screwed the whole thing up. But Morph was like my dark horse because he can be anybody.

It's like, I see your Dr. Manhattan and I raise you. Morph who could be, but it's like not a full of everybody, right? Yes. It's like a mimic version. I panicked. My team ended up all right, but I'm not definitely not. I don't have the strongest team. It is what it is, man.

Yeah, it's a lot of fun listening to it. So you guys have anything else coming up besides the regular show? Like House of the Dragon tie-ins or anything like that? Yeah, we started the House of the Geeks shows. We put one up, had some difficulty with one of them getting deleted before it was released. So we're in the process of working on that. We're going to be doing all of the night of the Seven Kingdoms when that drops. We're going to be moving those.

That's a lot of fun. And Phil, did you watch House? of the dragon this season? Yeah, I was going to ask you what you thought about it. Tees. What a tease. This whole damn season. What a tease, what a tease. A lot of talking. A lot of talking. A lot of building up. Not what I'm doing.

Not that it was bad, but like, it was just that final episode that was like, oh, oh, nothing happened. I said it as it was happening. I was like, I was like, fuck. My wife's like, what? I'm like, the music's going. We're going through the montage. All this is going to be just in time credit. I'm like, look at the runtime. We ain't

can doing shit. Exactly. So, screwed up. But there was a couple of cool scenes. Like, the Dragon Fight was one of the best moments of television I've ever seen. And then there was a really great moment where this little kid kind of gets to dress down Damon in front of all these rivermen

and make him kill his buddy. And it was like the best scene in the whole world. Because there's like this old guy, Storm who's like standing there off to the side. He's just like, fuck. He's like so scared that something bad's going to happen. Just classic stuff. So I really like that.

So we're definitely going to be, that's going to be four seasons, they said, for House of the Dragon. Okay. Makes sense. Makes sense. But I'm like,

we better get to some stuff, though. Like how, like, because her section, like, kind of goes way past into, like leads into her grandson. So like,

are we going that far in the show? Like, I don't. Because right now all their kit, well, I guess the oldest kid is kind of, an adult almost right i guess we can't spoil stuff yeah well we know the stories

i know what they're supposed to be philip philip had the same takeaway as you i think was that your cool of the week last week phil or i think yeah i finally had cotton up to it a couple of weeks ago and that and that was sort of my thing i was i was like man it was it was it was pretty good but like boy that last episode was like wait a minute it's over that's not that's not how cliffhangers are supposed to work. Like you're supposed to get to the thing first. At least get to something, right? It's been a lot of the season watching Damon have like hallucinations in his hotel room.

So it's like, oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's good, though. So that was fun. And then, yeah, we have doing the superhero draft, we figured out a lot of things we want to

do differently. So we have a super villain draft that's going to be coming. Oh, nice. We're going to be doing things a lot differently. We're actually going to have a host so that OIL doesn't have to do double duty. And we're going to do a whole bunch of different stuff. So that's going to be a lot of fun. Very nice.

Well, what's your cool of the week, man? Well, and watching movies for 31 Days of Horror, I just picked one on a win. And it ended up being awesome, like so much fun. I don't know if you guys have reviewed it or watched it yet, but it's called Low Lives. This is a To Be Original. I keep hearing about this. It sounds familiar. movie is amazing.

It is so good. It has a plot twist that it drops on you like 15 minutes into the movie where you're like, what the fuck? Now what are we doing? And then it just goes. And it's so much fun. And I would beg you to watch the trailer after watching the movie because it's amazing what they did with the trailer. They, well, like, it's only makes sense if you.

watched a trailer. When me and a little reviewed it, he was sitting at like a high psychic, but he really liked it. Then we watched a trailer and it pushed him to a hero because he's like, no kidding. It's amazing just what they were able to do. It's to be original. It's acted incredibly well. It's a big spin on like, almost like Texas chainsaw massacre kind of like group mixed with like some Backwoods family kind of vibe, but there's like, there's a twist and it's, it's just a lot of fun. It's, it was one of the best horror movies I've seen in a long. And it was a 2B original. Tube original.

Tube's fucking killing it. All right. Tube rules. Even Amazon Prime has commercials now. Fucking Tube rules. Yes. It looks pretty good. I put it on the list.

I am putting it on my list right now. It is really, really good. Low lives. All right. Brian, what you got, man? I got three movies I checked out in the past week. I will start with my, Steve. I checked out two werewolves.

movies. Were any of them good? That's what I wanted. One was not good. One was slightly better. That's the best I could say for the second one. It's not a strong, it's a strong genre, like if it's good. Are they both, are they both new?

Yeah. The first one is a cocaine werewolf. Oh, wow. That should tell you everything you should know about the movie. Can't go wrong with that. The budget completely did not go to the werewolf. So was it like a spirit Halloween? Did go to the other thing.

You must have seen this movie. It didn't even look like a werewolf. It kind of looked like they got a gorilla suit. So don't check out cocaine, werewolf. I thought it was going to be like bad shit crazy, you know, werewolf on cocaine, but no. See, that could be us. We could be making cocaine werewolf

right now. Could we? And it's almost like they asked their actor friends that they had friends that couldn't act to be in the movie. Were there at least some titties in it? Yeah, but they weren't the best. Some poor girl out there

dropped a couple of notches on her dignity for cocaine where that's good. They hired a stripper and the mailman. And put him in a gorilla suit. The second werewolf movies stars John Snow himself, Kit Harrington. Okay, I've been interested in this one. The trailers were interesting, so.

But he is in a really shitty mobile video game commercial right now that's extremely long. Oh, no. Well, he was also in Eternals, which was not all that. Which was like three really long. Was he really in Eternals? He kind of popped in there. He was the cuck. And Blade's voice.

He had a day of work for Eternals. Right. The movie I've seen him in was called The Beast Within. Okay. Steve, you probably won't like this one. It's more of a drama. Is there a werewolf in it? Yeah, one that you...

Okay, I'm slight spoils. The transformation is god-awful. What you can see of it. It's very C.G.I. Is it worse than, like, Bad Moon? Oh, no. I got to re-watch Bad Moon. Bad Moon has a really bad.

It's like the old 90s videos where, like, you just morph something into something else. Ouch. The transformation looks super cheap, which I can't say that for the rest of the movie. The movie looks good. It looks well. well directed, well acted.

It's just when you get to see slight... You don't get to see the full transformation when you do get to see some of it. It just looks bad. And when he's in full werewolf form... Right. It's...

I felt like they used the shadows and the darkness to not let you see him as well. Right. You know, that used to be the mark of a good filmmaker, but at this point. Now it's the mark of a low budget 64-bit werewolf Brian No it's just

Like I said it looked good It's just it was like the scenes like He was a werewolf It conveniently would be at nighttime Because of the full moon It just looked too dark to even see anything Gotcha So I can't recommend this one either

Oh damn it I guess then my last hope for a good Werewolf entertainment's going to be when Frank Brillo drops that dope-ass movie he's making. Oh. Or like the whole world turns to fucking were like a billion people get killed. I say it's the purge but with werewolves? Yes.

I have not seen the preview for that. Dude, it's like a super moon happens and anybody who goes out on it turns into a werewolf and like a billion people die. And then this is like a year later when it's about to happen again. I don't understand how that makes sense. I don't either, but it sounds fucking sweet. Sounds great. Right, yeah. Why not?

But my cool of the week We'll have to go to, I think it's on Screenbox. It's a new zombie comedy called We Are Zombies. We are zombies. Okay. Yeah. I like the world building they said because the

zombies in this world don't want to eat you. They just simply are there. Just hanging around, huh? Which causes like issues within the world because certain jobs, they're taking certain jobs because they don't need to sleep or eat or anything.

There's like groups there. That's fucking stupid, man. We have to have zombie rights. And it's offensive to call them zombies. You have to call them the living impaired. It's like political satire, big time, right? Yeah. The living impaired.

Kind of sounds fantastic. I like the world. I like the world building they did with all that. And then the premises, there's like a company. Like, if you got a family member that lives with you, that's a zombie, if you don't want to have them around anymore, you call this company and you sign them the rights away. Oh, just like...

Just like Canada. I thought you were going to say they could go on disability. You can get like a check or something every month, right? you know i don't know if they even got to check i think you just simply just kind of get rid of the problem huh yeah like you you see one scene like they're calling this company and he's ready for his father-in-law to go hey man this guy was already dead and he's still hanging around right lots of lots of practical effects it was done by the same team that you guys ever see

seen a Turbo Kid. Yes, absolutely. I love Turbo Kid. That's a great movie. Same directing team. Huh, this has promised, Philip. Yeah.

Does it have as good of a soundtrack as Turbo Kid? No. I mean, that's a high bar, though. Turbo Kid has a... True. And I say this because if you brought up the soundtrack to Turbo Kid, I

can tell you, hell yeah, they had an awesome soundtrack, but this movie, I don't even remember the soundtrack. uh oh well but it's still was it the grateful death no

sorry don't know where to go from there all right it took me a second and clicked oh man come on philip save us i don't know what the coolest thing i've watched this week i went back into and watched the original alien

so that was probably my coolest for sure. Dude, aside from that, I've been working my ass off, so that's all I got. That's a hot of the week, dude. I was trying to get some context on this new movie, and I'm going to have questions. So, we'll get to that point. Well, it's good. You watched Alien and Aliens, then right in the mix. There you go.

For sure. That's kind of like the trilogy now, right? It could be. the only means that really matter well we'll get to it when we get to the spoilers yeah they they referenced I felt like they referenced another movie that I wasn't expecting in the reference yeah felt that way didn't it

well I wasn't mad at that sure sure so is that it Phil just I think that's about all I got that we took the kids to go see Deadpool 3 so yeah because it was like there's nothing like too majorly bad in that one and uh and we took them and they enjoyed it so i i'd love seeing it's no jokes they haven't heard from you at home philip yeah exactly i did just as awesome the second time around even picked up on a few more little easter eggs and stuff so uh it was it was a great movie i loved it there's so many moments like in the background that

you you just catch on repeat you and they play so many clips now like on social media and stuff and Like, there's one right before. The gambit one. The gambit. I can't believe he's taken off as much as he has. It's really good. Because that shit was hilarious. He's perfect.

The cow looks a little funny, right? That was what I always said. I was like, I don't think the cow would look right on his face. And you know what? It didn't. But like a little tweaking and you can make that work. But he's been the guy forever, which is why he was like, I don't think I ever existed. I know.

He's like, I think I was born. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, we all got to get back to the people that, that love us. And he's like, or that never met us. So many good lines. There's one where Chris Evans is about to, like, flame on. Who is the dialect coach?

And minions? Deadpool turts around and a Wolverine stand there. He's got all the swords sticking out of him. And he's like, oh, he's going to say it. And he smacks one of the swords. And it, like, starts whamming around. And he's like, ah, fuck. It's just some random.

background. It's just so perfect. And it was like, what? We have to make you look presentable. And it was great. It's a fantastic movie, man. I don't know why people are shitting on that one. I don't know anybody who is, man.

Some people are shit on it? It's, well, I mean, the only real gripe is that there's not really a story. Yeah, fair enough. There's not really much of a... That's one of those where the critic score is like, which is a little less, discrepancy than normal, but it's like an 83 or something on the critic score and like a 96 on the on the audience score.

So I guess I get that. I've seen it three times twice in the theater and it's like I can see the issues, but I love it unabashedly anyways. It's perfect just how it is what's that? What's the prayer? Like a prayer? Yeah, that song? great scene. It is a good song. And the cowl. Come on. The cowl looks so good.

Yes, that's what I was going to say. I'm a Wolverine fan boy, so that popped up and I was like, yeah. Very good. Any of the thoughts, Brian? No, I still, I've watched it a second time. I still enjoy it. Now, officially the highest

gross and R-rated movie of all time. Oh, look at. Joker 2 is going to try to take that bad But I don't want to see Joker 2 That's not going to happen I'm not going to lie That trailer intrigue me It's a musical Brian

But it's a musical right I don't think it's going to be a full-on musical I think the musical elements are going to be all in his head I don't know dude They kind of killed it with the first one And it's going to be really hard to capture that magic again especially with the with the song and dance routine

I think Lady Gaga was great as Harley Quinn in the trailer Yes I you're not wrong I think she totally pulls that off I'll eat crow on it I would love to be wrong I would love Fred just to be an awesome movie Yeah

We know we know you're going to see it Steve I will have to see it See everything I don't want to see I see except I still haven't seen Aquaman 2. I tried. No. 10 minutes in and I turned it off. That's a tough one. That doesn't really count. I couldn't do it. It doesn't really count.

When he's doing donuts on the beach and he's like mugging for the camera, I'm like, I don't need this. I think I did the same thing. Like, I don't think I ever finished Aquaman 2, but I started it. I finished it. They completely didn't know what tone they were going. Jason Momoa was in a completely different movie. right than everybody else he was that way in the Fast and the Furious

movie too wasn't he? Well he was supposed to be awesome in that but that worked FAST X ruled his character Dante

his character Dante is probably one of the best things in a long time in the Fast and Furious I'd agree with that yeah he was like talking to those dead guys and painting their nails

yeah and I just I loved how it's like they just kept they keep adding people to the backgrounds Like if you actually looked to the left a little more, you would have seen Alan Richardson standing next to Jason.

Yeah, he was in. He was standing in that office. How do you miss those two giants? Like, you can't hide just off to the side. I love it. So good. Good point, man. Good point.

Yeah, one thing I loved about Deadpool was all the classic X-Men covers and Deadpool covers. When I saw Wolverine on that cross with all the skulls, I was like, holy fucking shit. Somebody's doing something right, man. That was fan service done the right. The one that got me was the Age of Apocalypse one where he had the missing hand. That was a good one.

That was a good one. Like, I have, I still have books in my collection that have him on the cover in that age of apocalypse. I also like that they threw a little shine towards patch. Like where he had a suit on and the patch over his house. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, man, Logan. And if they need to recast Hugh Jack, Cavalreen is a good way to go.

The way he pumped his arms, like he did the Mission Impossible arm pump and his claws came out, that was tough. That was, I was thinking the exact same thing when it happened. I was like,

oh, that's where he got that thing for Mission Impossible, and it works. He's such a good guy, though. Like, he doesn't smoke. So, like, all that cigar,

like made him sick. Oh, no. He got, like, physically sick on set. But he was totally pulling off that character. I was like, oh, wow,

he could do this. No love for Comic accurate As far as height Wolverine Oh short King That was not Because that just lets everybody know Why we

I don't know That was quite comic accurate I don't think he was that short Of the comics He's like 56 Not 5'1 It was like Furian Lanister Wolverine

The way he hopped down And how light he sounded When he landed on the ground It wasn't like thud It was hilarious That was hilarious It was great. Good stuff.

All right. Well, great movie. Go see that one for sure. Lance? Oh, yeah. Okay, so let's go back to the political satire. This is political satire done right? I'm only like three episodes in, but TV show that I just think is getting better

season after season after season. And this fourth season, to me, is just fucking spot on with what's going on. You know, like, it makes fun of both sides, which is always fun. You know, the South Park guys do that really well, but it does make fun of one side a little bit more, Steve. You'd probably agree, but the boys, season four. Fucking home letter is fucking asshole, man. What a dick. Season four, I can't believe how it.

Did you finish it? No, I'm only three in. Oh, okay, okay. I was going to say, I can't believe. I got ways to go, man. So, but you got the guy with the pink eye then. Yeah, the guy that was like butt munching himself, jacking off to a firecracker.

That was the best one. I'm sure. I understand that. Get off me, pink eye. Yeah, it's funny. Have you seen it yet, Philip? No. No.

No, dude, it's fucking hilarious, man. It's good. It's really good. They do some very interesting things with some of the characters. There's a scene where it's like a, or there's a whole episode, where they go to like this farm. Okay. It's where Vought has been experimenting on farm animals.

Oh, no. And there's like, demon sheep, like, flying through the air and snatching people up. It's fucking crazy. Like, the show definitely goes some crazy places. But, like, the one complaints I had about it was, like, the whole season, it's like, they just keep saying, like, we got to do this thing. We got to. And I'm just like, what are you talking about?

Like, you just, everyone's really hectic to do a thing. Okay. They got to go get them. But what is the thing we're talking about? Like, right? It's, but they do some really cool stuff with some superhero, those superpowers later on in the season with like,

a chameleon-like powers and stuff. It's very cool. Ah, interesting. Kind of like more, so to speak, right? To bring that back. Yeah, I'm enjoying it, man. But the boys, like, the boys always does it weird, right?

Like, it can't be morphed or he just like does it cool. Like, this person has to do some fucking weird shit in order to change to be like that person. You know? And like, they got, they don't have Spider-Man in the boys. They got the webweaver. And, like, he does spider webs too, but, like, he can't do him out of his little web wrist. You know, they got to do some weird shit with him.

Okay. All right. Shoot some out of his dick or what? Close, but. Just keep watching. Close, close, but. Well, they had a whole scene in that last season where they climbed up somebody's butthole. That's right.

Never seen that before. I think that was also the rounder, I think they went in the front hole there. Yeah, that show's crazy. And Gen V, like, they tie in Gen V to this season pretty well. I got to catch up, man. I never watched that one. You never watched Gen V?

I haven't seen it at all. Oh, Gen V is great. Gen V is awesome. You guys really should check out Gen V. I was surprised by it. It's really good. Nice. All right.

Well, that's cool of the week. Shit, what's next? Brian, horror headlines? Yep. Let's see. A little bit of. TV news. Amazon is developing a

poltergeist series based on the franchise and they have hired showrunners Kalinda Vasquez and Robbie Thompson. They have worked on shows such as Fear of the Walking Dead and Supernatural. Here we go. Here we go, Philip.

More Walking Dead action. You guys interested in the poltergeist series? No. No. Well, I mean, I mean, Maybe. It depends. I mean, I'll save my judgment for a trailer or something, but like, I went to the theater to see that damn Sam Rockwell movie, and they host me then. They got my money. Okay. Do you remember that movie well enough?

I remember it okay. Because nobody can ever answer the question. There's a scene where Sam Rockwell's staring at the power lines or whatever. Okay. and then that goes nowhere in the movie so yeah what's that what's that all about I don't know that's kind of weird I don't remember you gotta have to add me those people like can't

the problem is I never I've watched it the one time in the theater and never really felt the urge to go back I have not seen it the second time so well which sucks because I love Sam Rockwell like he is one of my favorite actors but uh but yeah oh he's awesome was collecting a paycheck for that movie.

Yeah. Let's see. Long Legs just passed $100 million in the worldwide box office. Look out. Okay. All right, good. I'm proud of them.

I have yet to see that. I want to, though, really badly. Not bad. And comments on our Facebook page are saying long legs is a piece of shit and garbage. Oh, man. So they've said.

Some people have said. I like it. Teach their own, right? Teach their own. Yeah, I thought you guys liked it. It's like, yeah, we all like it. I like Michael Monroe a lot. And Nick Cage.

You get Nick Cage? It's in there. He's insane in it. Right. It works. What a shocker, Philip. Okay, I'm probably going to pronounce her name wrong. Bahala, Harold, joins the cast of the upcoming horror movie,

They Will Kill You. And this is produced by the Bouchettys. Huh. But you know, Andy Mooshetti from it. And unfortunately the Flash, yeah. This is part of their new label or production company called Nocturna, and it will also star Lance, one of your favorites, Zazi Beats. Okay, I'm in.

The guy, Bobby Bucetti. Have you ever guys ever seen the horror movie Spookies from the A-Man? 80s? Nope. Probably. That doesn't even sound familiar. Well, it's currently the talks to get a sequel.

Okay. An obscure 80s movie is going to get a sequel. Sure. Why not? See, all right, now that's the time for a remake. When you have something obscure that maybe didn't do very well,

you could remake it, and then it's not a remake. It's a sequel. But that's what I'm saying. That's a time to do remake, not a sequel. Right. What are you doing?

Now, you're sequelizing a movie that nobody... Nobody knows what it is. Yeah. Now, Goonies, I don't fuck around with a remake. Or John. Don't fuck around with Johns, right? You can go with a sequel, but you can't do a remake, you know?

Yeah. But that's what they keep trying to do? Big debate on the geeks is like, what do you do with Back to the Future? Right. You leave it alone. Could you sequelize that? Yeah. Could you add to the lore?

I mean, you could do a... where now you do a new, like now they would, but now they'd be going back to the 80s, right? Yeah. So it's like, that would be kind of interesting, actually.

If you did something, you would have to do it now. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Brian, I know what you're saying. Christopher Lloyd's not getting any younger. And he's still rocks, too. Fisher Lloyd still rules.

You seem to nobody? He was awesome. Oh, yeah. Uh-uh. Haven't seen that. You haven't seen nobody? I don't think so. The Better Call Saul,

Bob Odenkirk? Great movie. Oh! Oh, yeah. Give me the Kitty Bracely. I'm sorry, dude. I'd forgotten he was in that. That was one of the first movies I saw after COVID back in the theater.

You just know that. Okay. That segment in VHS, the suicide cult? Yes. Love it. That director's doing the sequel to nobody. I should be really action-packed then and really good. That one is supposed to be in the same universe as John Wick, right?

Yes. Yeah. The director said that John Wick and that movie, with Charlize Theron, Atomic Blonde, all exist in the same universe. I love it. That makes perfect sense. Perfect sense, right? Man, that's a crazy-ass world to live in, man.

They're just crazy-ass fucking kung fu gun-cata fights going all over the world all the time. Why not, man? Everybody knows how to fight. They're actually doing another John Wick series. T.P. series? Yeah, I guess they're ignoring the other one. Okay. The continental?

Yeah. So we'll see. Give it a try. Gano Reeves in it? He's supposed to be dead, right? Well, you never know. I haven't seen John Witt car for yet, so I don't know. He is the boogey man.

What is happening right now? Have you seen the news, James Bond movie, Steve? Can we run that one for you also? You can. I did not see the news James Bond. I was going to say. I actually haven't seen the new James Bond movie. I like it because I love Skyfall. And then what was the one that came after Skyfall? Spector.

That was trash. So I didn't even. I don't think I ever saw Spector. I've seen Skyfall, but I think I heard, I think I heard you guys talk about Spector. I was mad that I bought it and it's still sitting on my shelf in the plastic. I wanted it. It's Christoph Waltz. I'm like, come on, this could be, this is going to be great. It was no. You would think so, right? You would think so. Just like if Sam Rockwell was in a movie, you would think it'd be great, but not to so much, right, Philip?

There you have it. But I mean, that's my own opinion. I don't know. I just didn't hear a lot of people being like, oh, my God, you have to see the new James Bond. Like. What? I watched Live and Let Die over the weekend. Like, my wife and I got like on a nostalgic trip, so we watched an Elvis movie.

and then we watched live and let die the first Roger Moore movie and that's this this new fucking James Bond ain't my James Bond I would Ness all the way Roger Moore Roger Moore for me dude

Sean Connery was great but Roger Moore those movies were just so much tackier you know what I mean like in bad taste they could not be made today I don't know like there's a place

there's a place for Roger Moore man but don't like Daniel Craig like come on man Casino Royale Skyfall like He was pretty great in casino royale. Because casino royale was a big step up for the bond. Is that the one with the opening, like, parkour chase scene?

I think so, yeah. I think so. That's following, you know, Pierce Brosnan and all his nonsense. I hated those. I'd rather, I'd rather, I'd rather, I'd rather watch. The video game was great. Timothy Dawn wins. All right.

see Holly Barry's new horror film Never Let Go gets bumped up a week to September 20th. She is looking good. Have y'all seen that new movie on The Union on Netflix with her in Marky Marky Mark? No, is it any good? She is looking good, man.

I can't, ooh, man, oh man. How is the movie? It was okay. He doesn't remember. It was passable. It was Marky Mark doing Marky Marky Mark things. And it was I like Marky Marky. Is he just...

Not saying that the quality of the movies he's been in or bad, but is he just doing everything now? It's like he's on every streaming. If it's a streaming, straight to streaming movie, he's like in it. Him and Kevin Hart, Brian. He's like, oh shit, I don't have a retirement. Yeah, did he like, make some bad investments?

Yeah, some bad Walburgers restaurants or something. It's like... The last time about my brothers, okay? Weird-ass movies. Remember, there was like five years where Nicholas Cage put out like 60 movies. It was all like, you know, like pay the butcher and like weird shit like that.

He was paying off debts. He bought like random haunted mansions and dinosaur heads. Expensive comic books. One of the only movies I've ever walked out of was snake eyes. Oh no. Wasn't that bad, was it?

Well, I, I, I, I, I walked out because, like, the friends of mine that I was with walked out, and I was like, all right, I guess we're leaving. My geek hat is still one. I was like, what? The G.I.J.J.M. Movie? No, no, no. You're talking about the one where there's like a bomb in the fucking... Nicholas Cage, Snake Eyes. Okay. It was pretty bad thing.

All right. Let's see here. Garth Ennis's horror comic Cross is getting a film adaptation, which they basically did already with the sadness. So, yeah, it was pretty much the same storyline. I don't, the sadness that, is that the Asian film you're talking about? Yes, yes. I don't need another version of that. I'm cool on that. That's enough of that.

You're going to get it. You're going to get it. I'm sure Ennis will try to outdo that one then, Brian, since they kind of stole his idea, right? There's some shit. You can't unsee after seeing that sadness. Let's see. And finally, Crystal Lake, the Friday 13th series, finally hires a showrunner, Brad Caleb Kane,

who recently, I think he was the showrunner for the upcoming Welcome to Dairy series on HBO. Okay. Got the hot hand right now, it sounds like. All right. So it is officially moving forward. They're going to, this is going to be like the young Jason right before. he goes in the before he drowns like where he's just like a i guess special needs kid that gets

playing in the water like i don't like do i need episodes and seasons of that like yeah how mean these people are to the special needs kid like i get it that's rough well i know they're not they're not going that route they were talking about before where each season was going to be a movie oh no wow well we have to build some compassion for a serial killer that's what I'm saying. Like, are they going to try to like, like, see, now you know why. I'm like, I get it. I get it.

He should kill all of them. I understand. I'm on his side. We already know what was done to him was bad. So it's like they need you to wallow in that misery. I'm still going to watch it. Right. I'll still at least get a shot.

You know there's going to be a whole episode built up to him, drown. A whole episode. Brian, you silly, silly, silly man. That's going to be the whole. For a season. Yep. They're going to milk that shit. And the season finale is going to be him like

looking at the lake. Some dumb shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Like not even in there yet. Wow, you thought House of the Dragon was a cock tease. Shit. I'm saying these people act like all this time is guaranteed. Right. Like the world's crazy out there right now.

Like you just released this shit. We ain't got time. All right. That's the news. All right, Steve, you ready to come with us down to the trailer park? Let's go. All right, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian?

Steven's Kostansky's Frankie Freakow. This was a rather interesting trailer. Now, Steve, I remember you and Alil's review on Psycho Gorman. So I would like to hear your thoughts first. I think that it looks like a terrible movie that's going to be a lot of fun to watch. Great description. The special effects are both awesome and bad. The voice acting is both awesome and bad.

The practical effects, the puppetry looks both awesome and bad. It's going to be a movie where you just sit down with, you know, that. big drink ears if that's what you're into or a nice big you know bowl of the green like I'm into and get some lunchies and have a good time I think this looks like a lot of fun it's not going to be good but it's going to be a blast right now we'll go on the complete other side now Lance this this reminds me you loved psycho goorman I did I love psycho gorman and this looks fun I'm with Steve both awesome and bad at the same time I couldn't have put it any better but this does remind me a little bit.

What was that one we saw early in the year with Alex Winter in it where he played like the Russian neighbor? Oh, destroy all neighbors. Yeah, kind of had a little bit of that vibe to it, maybe. I don't know. Like, does he go into like a fragile rock type world or like what?

I kind of got a Roger Rabbit vibe too. Or like what's that little monsters? Like, Fred Savage? Like it's taken down in the monster world. Like it's like a rare area. It looks interesting. I mean, we're all going to watch it. It looks fun.

The puppets are just like... That might not be a bad one. I love that movie. They're just really... I like seeing them. I just get nostalgic whenever I see the puppets and all that. Like, it's just a lot of work and craftsmanship went into that shit.

It's just... You can see it, so... Yeah. All right, Phil. Looks like 80s fantastical bullshit, right? Garbage pale kids. That's what we're going. Oh, yes.

Yes. Yes. And I second everything Steve said that that completely makes sense. It's a group watch. Like you got to watch this with a group. Like I'm kind of looking forward to it. Like part of me rolled my eyes when this thing came on. And then part of me is like, all right, well, I have to watch it.

It knows that it's bad. But it's being awesome of that. You got to give those movies credit. It's like a so good. so bad it's good but like they know that going into it yeah right so will you work or not

I don't know I'm watching it just for Stephen Kazansky because he does all the practical effects you know we talked about psychogoraman he also did the void right leprecon returns was was yeah Steve you left me alone

on that one what happened that's the first time we ever spoke the void you were like you guys are you guys going to review the void and I was like we can he was like I want to be on that show oh then you disappeared huh did I not and then I just never never talked to you again or what yeah and then I had to argue you went into the void for the void again as these two I watched it again I watched the void again like like like two or three weeks ago that movie still is awesome

I'm gonna watch it again I was gonna say I don't think I love that shit's like the thing but like also like weird witches and there's like a doctor that does some crazy crazy shit. It's like Hellraiser. Oh, right. But it was sort of like they were trying to do all that shit and didn't nail any of it. I thought they did a good job. It didn't nail it all of it. I really like that one. Sorry,

Brian. I'll never leave you hanging again, man. I was like, I know at one point I'm like arguing with these guys and I'm just like, damn Steve. You left you hanging. All right. Frankie Freiko hits theaters October 4th.

theaters. This thing's get the theatrical We're going to see this thing before toxic adventure. Oh, no. Yeah, that's not going to work. You mean the finished

already done filming Toxic Avenger? The one that's unwatchable or some shit. I'm like, don't bat girl this, man. Come on. No, they can't. Let me decide if it's unwatchable. Let me decide if Batgirl's unwatchable, by the way.

Brandon Frazier was the villain. I want to see it. Oh, God. He's got to be so over the top. right? And Michael Keaton was in it. I want to see the fucking movie. Yeah.

Oh, come. Shit, I heard. I didn't seem like much of a villain. I heard that a Looney Tune movie that got showed was actually pretty decent. Yeah, with John Sina and fucking, what's his name? Will Forte. Space Jam 3 or what? It was like Space Jam.

It was like a cartoon. Like, Who Frame Roderad? Who Frame Roger Rabbit? Like the Coyote was in the real world. I can't believe nobody's leaked that. We've been able to see it, you know? They did that tax right off shit. Oh, man.

What a fucking shame. All right. Our final trailer is starring a show favorites. Samarra Weaving, and that is Asriel. Steve, what do you think? This shit right here. Slow cliff. It's amazing.

This trailer had me hooked. I love the setting. Like, it's a very, like, it's a setting that we've seen done before, but maybe not necessarily quite like this. Okay. I love post-apocalyptic. Yeah. Anything like that.

It's in a world where no one speaks. I've seen this a lot. I'm playing the shit out of fallout as we speak again, you know? So like I just love the post-apocalyptic setting. And this one's like after the rapture and the people that are left. And it just has a vibe, a tone. I just, I want, I love movies that have this kind of tone. So this one looks really big.

I was very disappointed because you get to see her tied up and then she gets away and runs away and then the creature's coming in but you don't get to see Samara weaving being Samara weaving you don't see the badassery so I'm hoping it's what I'm hoping dude I hope that's what I'm hoping

they're hiding that from us because it's just going to be so fucking amazing when she brings us. She's going to have to do some badass shit I'm reading the synopsis here and she's tied up because she's going to be sacrificed and she escaped. So she's going to be fighting for her life because she's running from this creature. And then you've got all these people that are trying to capture her shooting machine guns and shit at her.

I want to see her team up with the creature and go back and fuck everybody up that tried to sacrifice her. I don't know. Make a deal with the devil. You could do like that Millie Bobby Brown dragon movie they just put out on Netflix. That wasn't too great, though. That was like a CGI fast big time. You know what? I had fun with it.

Got it too. Damsel, right? Damsel. Yeah. It was ridiculous. But there was, there was, it was Millie Bobby Browns coming out. Like, she burned all her clothes off and you're like, whoa. And then you feel horrible.

And then you remember that you were in your 30s when Stranger Things came out. Right, right, right. Phil? Yeah, man. I'm definitely down to this. Some good, like, demon horror stuff. Sure. And Samara weaving in it on top of that.

Oh, yeah. That's all it took to sign me up for this one. I'm sold. This one hits... This is also a theater release, but it's going to get a shot of release sometime after. But it's going to hit theaters September 27th. Okay.

Not bad. That's the trailers. All right. I guess that's me. On to listener feedback. What do we got here? This week we shine the podcast spotlight on spooky chicks and horror flicks. Two girls discuss their favorite horror films with wine-soaked hilarious chats.

New episodes every other Thursday. Spooky chicks and horror flicks. Check them out. Let's see. with, in regards to Alien Romulus, Stephen Lobad said, what a great installment of the franchise, definitely my cool

of the week. There you go. There you go. All right. Some good early reviews. We'll see how it goes. In regards to Peacock's Crystal Lake series, what you were just talking about. David Bartis says,

just when I was going to cancel my subscription, they come out with this. Good to me. They keep Pippoole. me back what was that i know the godfather i try to get away they keep pulling me back in that's that that sounds like mario that was like mario that was like that was like the internet version of that not the toad can say some wild shit too all right

to event horizon classic movie Don Lowry says I rewatch this couple times recently There's far more going on if you pay attention It's unfortunate that the lost footage is gone But it was way out there The blood orgy and the crew literally

screwed each other to death and tore each other apart Some of the images of the new crew are haunting too if you really look rooting and tortured alive. If you read if you read parts of the story in script, it actually has a decent amount of stuff in it to help explain extra

details. In it, the doctor after coming back to the ship is not actually him. It's an entity of sorts. The blast they all receive from the beginning is also supposed to be

supposed to play on them. They get concussed by it, and it plays into their psyche. The hallucinations and everything are the ship, but their head trauma makes it seem otherwise. I remember not noticing certain things back in the day at first watch, which is unusual for me. However, as a kid, I wasn't versed in Catholicism, etc.

But the ship has so many religious images, like cathedral imagery and designs, the nine circles of hell on the bridge, with the rotating blades to represent Dante's Inferno, etc. I didn't know the meat plastered to the ceiling.

I didn't notice the meat plastered to the ceiling either or not fully. I like deep diving into films like this and that have imagery in different Easter eggs. Meanings or adaptation, etc. The shining being probably the best example, but this

is definitely one that has many layers if you choose to think about it and watch for it. But it's not a non-necessity. But it is cool, and that's part of the reason that I like that one. Right, right. Yeah. Event Horizon is great, man. It's terrifying. I see what you're going to get Don Lowry on the show, Brian.

Yeah, for sure. This dude's always spouting knowledge in the group. This dude knows his shit, man. Don, if you're listening. Definitely, man, definitely. And that is the shame about the lost footage that when they actually found it, it was just so badly damaged

that they couldn't do anything with it. Yeah. Kind of like that girl, huh? Oh, no, that movie's fully done sitting there. Ah, okay. Maybe not fully CGI. Or at least that's what they tell us. So they say, right?

Oh, maybe like... It's fully done. We've already... I already shot it and that's where we spent all the money. It's definitely here, but you can't watch it. Now give us that text break. He asked Michael Keaton if he was sad and didn't come out. He's like, nah, it was a nice check.

There you go. Fair enough. Paid for a beach house for him, right? In regards to seven, Rob Cav says the plot twist was a jar dropper. Awesome. I'm regards to the new crow. Don Lowry says, I saw the trailer, and nope. That's what you said, Phil.

I just hear Pennywise. And he looks like he only eats meth. That's great. It's, I'm so, I've watched all the crow movies. Yeah. Because like, City of Angels. Like, I found something to like in part three. How many Crow movies are there?

Four. More than you know. Four and a show that I watch most of. So they had the one, like, they came out part two that wasn't very good with the Yellow Ranger in it. Then they had part three with Kirsten Dunst. And that one was like, had a very low budget, but had some cool ideas. Okay. So I kind of like that one a little bit.

It doesn't hold up, though. It's like, it's, that affects one really bad. Kind of dated. Yeah. And then part four with Edward Furlong and Tara Reid. Oh, God. And Dana-Boriannis. Ouch.

That one was bad. Rough stuff. I have to watch all these before next week. What happened to Edward Furlong, man? That one was bad. David Burianas plays the actual devil in that movie. Oh. Satan himself.

I just hope people judge the movie. for what it is, not that it's not the original one. I'm going to go into it with an open mind. I do not like the aesthetic of the characters. It portrays a lifestyle and a group of people that I don't really associate with. So I don't, I can't find any connection to it. Yeah, make sense. I'm like face tattoos and you're weird half mohawk.

Right. I just. I can survive looking like that. So I just, you know, we just can't relate. Oh, you're just not a normal human being, okay. Steve, have you seen Boy Kills World? Not yet. Okay, check that one out and let me know what you think,

because I think after watching that movie, he can handle doing some fight sequences, choreography. I like Bill Scarsgaard. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, me too. that he's, I don't think he's, if there's a problem with this movie, I don't think it's going to be his portrayal. Right. You know, I don't think it's, if I ended up walking out movie going like, oh my God, it's not going to be because of him. Maybe the way that they portrayed him, but not the way that he portrays the character.

Some of that action in the trailer looks fucking awesome. Some of it looks great. That fight scene on the stairs where he's just taking the shots and just fucking people up. It could, it could be great, but it could also be really bad. Right. Yeah. Hard to say, man. We don't have long to wait. Trailers are tricky.

It's on that precipice. This movie's either going to be awesome or really, really not. Or both, right? Like the one we just watched the trailer for. Maybe. All right. And in regards to Alien Romulus, Hana Elise says, I love Fade Aalvarez.

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This week, it's 1986's aliens and the brand new Alien Romulus. But we'll start with aliens. Just tell me one thing, Burke. You're going out there to destroy them. right not to study not to bring back but to wipe them out that's the plan all right people on the running line i'm gonna die decades after surviving is it decades decades after 57 years right nazz i thought it was like c i don't know so i thought he was Faises 57. I don't know.

Maybe I misheard it. No, you're right, Lance. It is. I thought it was 56, but it's one of the two. Close enough. It's a long fucking time, right? Didn't click to either one of mine, because, yeah, Ripley is still young-ish. Ripley is still ripped.

Yeah. She was in that. Decades after surviving the Nostromo incident, Ellen Ripley is sent out to re-established contact with a terror-forming colony, but finds herself battling in the alien queen and her offspring. Director is James Cameron, also known for The Terminator, and Rambo and many, many other things. Writers are James Cameron, David Giler, and Walter Hill. Like most films, the movie wasn't shot in sequence, but added for realism.

James Cameron filmed the scenes where we first meet the colonial, yeah, Plonia Marines, one of the earliest scenes last. This was so that the camaraderie of the Marines was realistic because the actors had spent months filming together. That's smart. Makes sense. Lance Hendrickson. Hey, there you go.

Yeah, friend of the show, despite his handler. Had previously pledged to quit acting if this part didn't work out for him after years of journeyman roles. It proved to be one of his most successful. successful films was pretty great. All right. Nez, you want to start us out with aliens? Which version did you guys watch?

I watched the one on Max. Whatever's on Max. It was two hours and 19 minutes. There's a special edition directors cut one. Oh, I watched the one on Hulu. I don't know which one that is. Look at, there it is. Both of them.

Steve's got it. Yeah. I just watch the regular one that's on the... I just watch this. Well, on the merit of the movie, like, if there are big differences, please let us know. There's a lot of big differences they cut out of it.

I mean, you could see why they cut them out. But, I mean, they showed the, one of the scenes that should have been in the original theatrical cut was the scene with Newton and her family. And they showed the colonists, before the aliens took over.

I've seen that before. I thought that I did not see that version this time. I thought that was cool. And then there are the little small things that they added in later, especially with that automatic machine gun that they had stuck in one of the corridors. When aliens come, it would just automatically start shooting them. But we hear it. We don't see it, though.

And there were some other things they threw in there. I mean, not a lot. I mean, even, I want to say there was the scene with Ripley, then talking about her daughter a little bit more. I can't remember. I haven't seen it in a while, but this one, I saw it when it came out. I had first heard about it. I went to see that one film with Gregory Hines and Billy Crystal running scared.

Yeah, where they went to Key West. Yeah, and I saw a big cardboard stand-up of Rippoor. And I was like, who is she holding at this time? We didn't know who knew it was. And she was standing with the eggs around her. So I was like, well, there's another one. So that was all I knew. Did, kind of saw trailers, but I don't really remember them.

No internet in the old days, boys and girls. So the movie came out. We went and saw it. And I was just blown away with what we had seen. I mean, I was really hyped that James Cameron did it because we already saw Terminator. And that's an amazing film. So we sat through it with my brother and Mike and I. We all saw it.

And then as soon as it was over, we're like, we need to watch this again. And this was in the day. Oh, yes. They didn't kick you out. Let the cleaning crew come in and do their business and hang out, right, Ness? Yeah, we just sat in the lobby. And then when the next door came on, we walked back in there and wash it again. But I love this one.

It ain't my favorite. I know a lot of people say this is their favorite one out of all of them, but not my. Alien 3 is my favorite. That's a good one. Yeah. No, that's a good. That's a good one, man. Alien 3 is way underrated, I think.

I mean, I just liked it because they didn't have weapons to fight it. The theatrical version, not the special edition one when it was a cow or ox or whatever it was. I thought that was kind of lame, but whatever. whatever. But this one, it was cool. I loved it how they, we all thought they were going to go in there and just destroy them all because we see all the weapons and the Marines and we see all these big, giant missiles that they're loading up and everything. And they had the drop ships thinking, oh, man, they're going to go in and just level the place. Nope. It was overpowered and everything. Game over, man. All the characters in it was amazing. Vasquez being my favorite character. Different times in the 80s, Boys and Girls, she was not

Mexican, but she was playing that role. They had to darken her up. I really, I want to say she's Jewish, but I'm not sure. Really? Yeah, so, I mean... I didn't know that.

I mean, it was how the 80s rolled back then. Right, right. Michelle Gregory is in there, All the characters are cool. Hudson, Bill Paxton, rest in peace. He was amazing. He had already been in Terminator.

He worked with James Cameron before, and I really loved his role in True Lies. That was awesome when he was in Carcelain. But everything in this, the special effects, the score was amazing. But to come back after all these years, Walls, not really that. When was the first one? 79. Yeah, late 70s. Sounds right. What year did this one come out?

86. 86. 86? Okay. Yeah, 86. I graduated high school. I remember. I was still in. I was three. You guys were all in diapers. But everything, everything about it was amazing. And I just love it. This is the one that I'll throw in every now and then. I did watch the one that was on Max or Hulu or whatever it was on before, but I've always just loved the special edition one just because for the extra scenes they throw in. I had that big box that quadrilogy. I got that one too, Niz.

I picked that one up because they had bold versions of each film. But the special effects were amazing. The only thing I really didn't care for was the redesign. of the xenomorphs. I really loved how the original one looked with the smooth head and type of skull. This one they didn't. I think they called these warrior xenomorphs because they had the little spiky, Mohawk-looking thing on the top of their heads.

But they were still cool. I mean, it was all practical effects, no CGI yet. And it was awesome. Everybody in it. I've met a lot of the cast and I've talked to them about this film. And they all said they had a good time. It sucks that James Remar couldn't keep it under control with the drugs. But, hey, man, that's what happens.

And then they brought in Michael Bean, Kyle Reese. So that was cool. He had already worked with James Cameron. So that was awesome. And, yeah, I mean, everything was just amazing about this film. I love it. All right. Steve?

Yeah, this aliens is easily in my top 10. like movies of all time and on certain days maybe even in my top five like i watched this yesterday and it still holds up like just as a film the way it the way it handles characters and gives you just enough that you give a shit about every single person in this movie this is a big cast to get introduced to and have you care because some of them you only get to know them for like 10 or 15 minutes and but you their deaths matter you know um i was noticing a lot watching this recent time that just some shots like there's a shot of the marines going into like the nest and it's just the shot of all of them turning around and looking at it and it's back behind them and you just get

all of them this awesome group shot and I'm like that's a fucking poster like that's art right there there's just so much of the movie it's just beautiful to look at I love the lo-fi tech I love this shit the the way this 80s future tech like I love how like everyone's still smoking inside Yeah. You know what I mean? The old school cigarettes. All the, all the little knobs and notches. Everything's like that. Got a blinky light and a switch.

Yeah. You know? Lots of flicks and switches. The original alien. There was like a million fucking buttons. I was like there's no way. Every one of those does something. Like the original space.

And then these people come in and they fucking go, like, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And you're like, damn, they know what the fuck they're doing. Because that's a million button. Perfect. And this is just more of that. I love the practicals with the aliens. the queen alien.

There's been some discussion on whether or not the queen is canon because apparently she's actually only ever been in this and one Alien versus Predator movie. She's never even mentioned in any of the other stuff that really scott did. Kind of like the Bore Queen in Star Trek. Steve? Kind of the same concept.

But, you know, I still think that the design of it's incredible. Like when you get that reveal, another artwork shot. Like, it's just framed so well with the legs going out perfectly and she's standing there holding newton the eggs are around her like another just beautiful shot and score the acting michael bean kills it he's the best the movie ends on such a high note such hope for rippley and her new family uh i love this movie this movie and then comes alien three right yeah well the alien three is not my favorite nez i love you buddy is not my favorite

um i love this one so that's it for me is this one your favorite? It's hard though. Because like it all depends. Like on, it goes between this one and the first, and the first alien. Because alien and aliens are two different beasts.

Alien is like a creature feature horror movie in space. You know, in a crowded, in a really cramped narrow spaceship. Aliens is like action, Marines, many xenomorphs getting mode down. Like, you know,

more facehugger shit. You get to see the facehugger. I forgot that you got to see the little facehugger wiener. Oh, I know. I thought that was a Romulus reveal of it. I know. Like, Romulus is like, wow, that's kind of overkill. And this one, like, even Reese is like, oh, I think he likes you.

I'm like, damn, Reese. I mean, this used to be my favorite hands down. Right. As I've grown older, I like the original one, too. Target. Yeah, they're kind of a toss-up to me. And maybe Romulus. We'll see.

Yeah. Brian, what do you think? This is probably one of the greatest sequels of all time. Oh, for sure. I can't argue with that. This can arguably, depending on who you talk to, exceeds the first one. Understandable, yeah. Great cast, great effects.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen this movie and it never gets old. So quotable. Steve, you brought up, you get the care for these people. That's how well the story is written and these characters are written. I mean, even, what's his name? Gorman, the officer. His arc is incredible. Yeah.

He's got the cigar going, chomping on the cigar. No, no, that's Sarge. The inexperienced guy. The guy who gets the concussion. That has no idea what he's doing there who redeems himself later. what Vasquez. Has the dopest redemption art. Goes out like a boss.

Okay. There you go. See, I wasn't even thinking about him. I considered him a secondary character, but like you guys are saying, you care about everybody in here, you know? Yeah.

Even Bill Paxton, like, he's fucking game over, man, but like, he's taking fucking aliens down. Right. Yeah. Yeah, because he has a point where when you first,

get introduced to him. He's, he's kind of laughing off the fact that it's aliens. And he's just ready to go in there. And then when they get their ass kick, you know, of course, you know, game over, man. Game over. He's like, you guys didn't tell me they had like acid blood, man. And then like Steve said, he's going out taking aliens with him.

Yeah, when the ship goes down, he loses his shit. And I think the actress who played news, I think. She did a great job. Oh, definitely. Kind of wish. Yeah, I'm not on that train either with Alien 3. I hated what they did with Dude and Hicks.

That's just the story arc, man. That's the way they decided to go, you know? No story arc. They got killed off screen. Uncermoniously. Kind of like Jamie Lee Curtis in the one Halloween movie that's like retconned out. I always wanted to see the Neil Blom camp movie. Yes.

Dude, the, the arched. they released. Yeah. Hicks standing there with half his face melted all in his gear again. Oh, wow. Yes.

And Michael Bean's like, dude, I heard there's an audio book out there. Michael Bean back as Hicks. It's like another version of a sequel to aliens. Right, right. Where they keep it going,

an audiobook form. Okay. But yeah, this is probably my favorite in the franchise. Yeah, you're not alone. You're not alone. you.

Lance, what about you? Oh man, this movie's so fucking iconic, dude. When this movie came out, I was in such a cool part of my life, because like I said, I graduated high school, you know, starting to go to college, and must have seen this six times into theater easily, like we kept going back over and over again. And this was just, like, had so much rewatchability.

And when I was rewatching this movie last night, one thing I really never noticed is it's halfway through the fucking movie before you really get into the aliens. It's just like a military. It's like an army movie, right? Yeah. Like there's so much. There's so much.

There's like all this trauma from Ripley that you're like unpacking. You're like getting to know Paul Reiser and his smarmy ways. Oh yeah. It's the fuck. What a schmuck, huh? It's company man, right? Like you can tell the beginning. Because Cameron does that trope a lot, right?

Steve, like we're like an avatar, right? You always get the company. Giovanni Ribisi. Absolutely. The slimy company guy. So, yeah, you got to have that character in there. And, you know, you've got to have the tough guy, the tough gals. So, yeah, it's just there's not a lot you really need to say about this movie because you just need to see it.

You need to experience it. It is not my favorite in the series. My favorite's the first one. But it's like a really, really close second. Like Brian said, this is like a sequel done right, you know, because it's like it takes the same universe, but it makes a completely different type of film. because you've got like an army adventure, you know, like a military-style movie. And then at the end,

you've got such great practical effects throughout all this. And yeah, this is just a classic. I mean, you know, we could just sit here and gush for hours about it. It's that good of a movie. And it's like two hours and 19 minutes, and that's not even the director's cut. But it's kind of like you're in and out. It feels like an hour and a half movie.

And it's just really, really polished from start to finish. This is like Cameron at his best. I love the miniatures. The miniature shots of the car rolling through with the big ass fire on it, you know? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's a cargo loader suit thing. That was done

with miniatures, too. Was it? I couldn't tell. That, in a lot of the stuff, like with the ship crashing and stuff, all that was miniatures. I love that she's strong enough to a stand getting sucked out into space. She could do pull-ups in that shit. Yeah, I kind of.

Kind of far-fetched. Kind of far-fetched there at the end. But it was fun. It was fun, right? It's, that's movie magic. Yeah, of course. That was definitely movie magic. You know, some of it, some of it worked better for the 80s than it does now.

But still, I think this one is my favorite aliens movie. It's, it's pretty awesome. I mean, it's, it's, so the first one is very, like, slow and, like straight up horror movie. Like a 70s horror movie, right? Slow burn. Like the Exorcist or something. Yeah. Very, very slowburn. And this one is just action fucking packed.

Start to vanish. Ish, because like you said, they don't even really hit the aliens until halfway through the damn movie. Yeah, but there's still a lot of action and a lot of really good character development. And like you fall in love with all of them. Right. It's better, like, just... everyday people watching movies, I think. And this one totally works. I like all the different aspects of the aliens.

I was going to ask you guys, do you think that they are sort of based on, like, ants where they have, like, a queen and then these little soldier aliens and stuff like that? Or, like... Yeah, I think that was pretty, you know, insect-like. Yeah, very, very insect-like. And it's not too insane to believe that, you know, maybe there would be something that's just very resilient out there.

And one day while we're mining asteroids, which probably won't be that far off in the future. Not too far off, yeah. That's going to be the first trillionaire is the one who finds a way to mine an asteroid, right? Do we run into some really, like, seriously dangerous space cockroaches? Probably just the virus, dude. Probably nothing that wrong. romantic, Phil.

Probably just Yeah, we're all just going to get tummy eggs and dog. It's going to be diary. There's not going to be cool aliens or superpowers. We're all just going to be.

Oh, my God. You know, where they're not very technologically advanced, but they're just like super adaptable. Yes. And we'll fucking survive

anything. And then they're parasitic where they just take on hosts and just spread. Yeah. I mean, if you go and watch throughout,

all the movies, they, like you said, they adapt, they learn quickly. They don't make the same mistake twice. Like, the ones that actually won was Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Right, right. Yeah. He didn't stop them. I mean, they, well, I'm going by the 70s one, not the original. But because at the end, you think Donald Sutherland's all good, rest and peace.

But then he turns out he fell asleep somewhere. I don't know. I was asleep too. Because they were running around all night for the lives. And then it got him. And yeah, man, I mean, if anything, I base on my science fiction and aliens from movies and TV. But I would like it to be like alienation to where they come down and then try to live with us and everything. You're going to get that with Noah Holly's show, Alien Earth.

Maybe they already have. Which is coming down. have I rather have cocoon happen. I'd rather go to this world when no one dies and get sick. With Wilford Brimley? And Steve Gutenberg? You want to go hang out?

Wilford Brimley came back and stayed on Earth. So no, I won't be with Wilford Brimley. Yeah. He came back, but he came back with that Cajun accent from that Van Dam. And die. Oh, target.

There you go. There you go, man. Thinking of that, are you guys ever getting back to those? I've been begging. but I got to convince these other two yokels. So if somebody wants to come on Doom, do the rest of them with me, just let me know. I spent a lot of time on that intro.

Brian and I will jump in and do it with you. Yeah, the action return boys will jump in. I will gladly move the Van Dam retrospective over to Action Returns if you guys want to keep that show going. Oh, hell, you know. Right. Just be a shared here first. Just the shame you already did the good ones.

There was a period of time. That's true. I was trying to watch every Van Dam movie. Why? I think we got, because we started getting in Louise with something, it got, like, the last one I think we did was the one with him. And it was the guy that played Rob Schneider, where he was like, he played like a fucking, like a guy.

Oh, was it with the counterfeit clothes or something? Yeah, counterfeit clothes, yes. I was like, what the fuck are we doing, man? Yeah, knock on. Rob Snyder and Van Dam. Boy, they sold. Yeah, right? That's all you had to get Will Farrell in there too, right?

Fucking Billy Madison pops up. Be all right. Oh, yeah. Why not? Yes. Do you ever watch John Claude Van Johnson? That show? Oh, yeah.

Wonderful show. That show is fantastic. Sorry, we went off on a tangent. All right. In aliens, we do see, um, what's his nuts? We never see him died. really. Paul Reiser's character. Right, right.

What the hell was this name? So maybe he's an alien concubine now, Nez, or what? What was his name in the movie? It was. Elon Musk? Carter. I don't know. Burke. Was it Carter Burke?

Burke. Sounds about right. Yeah. Definitely. Okay. Well, there is an expanded universe. It just came out recently within the last few months. There's a Marvel series. What If? It was what if Burke survived

and got away with what he wanted to do by bringing the eggs back to Earth and all hell breaking loose. I have not read it yet. It's a five-issue limited series. All five issues are out now. That's cool.

They're also doing a Avengers versus Alien series too. Disney got the right. That's right. They can do what they want. Well, I'd imagine if, well, I guess we'll get into that. And what's the face of the next story? Yeah, go to town on a superhero. That's going to be close.

Oh, yeah. Well, I was going to say I would, like, into spoiler talk for the next one. But like I'd imagine, if they brought back all the medication and stuff that they had planned for this one. Sure. They'd probably stop that after the first incident. But we'll see. All right. Don't say too much, Phil.

Yeah, I know. Scores on aliens. Ness? I'll give the special edition one at 10, and then I'll just give it a theatrical one at 9. Nice. Okay. Steve?

Yeah, I figure, like, if I have a movie, like, my top 10 list should all be 10s. So, yeah. Aliens is up there. Ten. Fair enough. Brian? Come on now.

It's a 10. Lance? Damn. Yeah, this is 9 on 10. 9 on 10. Almost perfection. Second best alien movie in the series. I think I still gotta go 10 on this one, man.

All right. Fantastic. Yeah, the best series. This is beating into the Spiderverse, guys. I know. Almost. It's almost a perfect movie. Yeah.

I'm struggling to find something to complain about. The miniatures, I guess. They were done great. I didn't even realize it was a little miniature. But, like, they were great when I was, you know, 10. Okay. Now you're looking at it and you're like, all right, well, that's definitely on a set. I didn't realize they were miniatures, but it's like, all right, well, that's definitely on the set.

Definitely on the sound stage, right? Yeah, you're knocking over Star, From pieces, great. It sucks when you don't see it clearly, because then you can always see it. Like, now I see it in speed. Right, right. Yeah. All the time, I'm like, oh, I see all the miniatures.

They didn't speed. Yeah. Or were they speed up, where they speed up the film to get them? Yeah. What are you going to do, though, man? Come on. Would you prefer C.G.I. Fire film? No.

No. I like it for what it is. I'd rather have real fire, even if it's really big. I know. And I'm saying. Even if somebody gets burnt. All right. Let's move on to the next one.

Let's see. I got some notes here. Alien Romulus from 2024. While scavenging the deep ends of a derelict space station, a group of young space colonists, I don't know if that's what they're. I don't know about that. Yeah. Come face to face with the most terrifying life form in the universe. verse.

Director and writer is Fetei Alvarez, also known for Don't Breathe and the New Evil Dead series. Director Fedé Alvarez sought out the special effects crew from aliens from 1986 to work on the creatures. Physical sets, practical creatures, and miniatures were used wherever possible to help ground later VFX works. Cool. Except the one, but we'll talk about that. Um, the idea of an alien life film, uh, of an alien film, uh, centering on younger characters was inspired by a deleted scene from aliens, uh, that was later restored in the special edition. Uh, Fetti Alvarez explained, there's a moment where you see a bunch of kids running around the corridors of this colony. And I thought, wow, uh, what would it be like for those kids to grow up in a colony that still needs another 50 years to tear for them? So I remember thinking, if I ever tell a story in that world, I would definitely be interested in those kids when they reach their early 20s. All right.

Sounds like a real fan. It sounded like the right person made this movie. Exactly. Nez, did the right person make this movie? I'll go last. Okay. Steve? The suspense is killing me.

Yes, I believe the right person did make the movie. I have question. this would definitely not be my favorite movie in the alien franchise I have questions about just certain aspects of the story like how certain things like logistically work but anything you go into now or would it be like spoiler territory for sure probably spoiler territory I'd tell you what is it top three yes I would probably I would put this above I would put this above

of Prometheus and Covenant and Alien 3. Even the Alien Resurrection? Way of them. Easily. Yeah. Way into Alien. The French director. This is not Overeathius.

For me, this is over Prometheus. Over Covenant. I'll agree with that. Not Prometheus. That movie is awesome. I love Prometheus. I'm totally in the minority. I know.

I do, too. No, I do, too. I still have tried and find myself dumbfounded by what anybody's doing. But, and the terrible old man makeup on Guy Pearce just is so distracted. But, but this one, like, again, the lo-fi tech, right? This felt like going back into the alien universe. Everyone's wearing the high-top re-box and fucking in, you know, some of the characters or whatever. but they made facehuggers scarier and grosser than they're not even you know they're not even facehuggers they're

face fuckers that's what they are in this movie that's exactly what they are so like they made them scary uh the xenomorphs were cool they showed some elements of the xenomorphs we haven't seen before like that i've never noticed like what how do they go from the little tiny white thing that pops out of your chest to the giant black alien that's running around like well there's a big vagina on the wall Again, more suggestive stuff. And then it continues. I did not like the end. Didn't like any of that.

No. There's where my problem lies. They tried that before and it wasn't good then and it's not good now. Okay. All right. Well, that's where I'm out. That has problems with the end, but they did some really cool stuff. All that gravity shit.

Yeah, yeah. Auto-aim guns. Good. Good. What was that deck in aliens? I know, huh? They should have had that. Well, they had automatic turrets that were blowing the shit out of them.

That was my gripe when they pulled those things. It was neat. I loved it. But I was like, damn, they did the Colonial Marines dirty by not giving them those. That's the budget. You know, budget reasons. This was private security on this shit. Hey, man, I didn't get in Boers in the Army.

I really liked it. I wanted to love it. but I really liked it. That's fine that. All right. Who's next? Brian, what do you think? I think I'm right there with Steve.

I came into this really wanting to love it. But I'm almost there. But what really killed it for me was I think it was a little too much fan service. A lot. A little too. I can see that. I could see that. Some of it was cool.

When some of it happened, we'll get to it and spoil this. I was like, that's pretty fucking. cool that they threw that in there and others i was just kind of like uh i don't know why that's in there little corny maybe i'm curious i thought the the acting was fine i really loved um i i just had his name i forgot the the actor that played andy andy andy phenomenal yeah yeah he's fantastic fantastic yeah and that and that's a theme that's been through all the movies right Brian to, you know, somebody's always going to hate the character because they have a reason to. You know what I'm saying?

Like, the person who's, yeah, I just like, not only that, but I just like where he started, and where he was in the middle of the movie until, and then his arc at the end. Yes. And I completely agree with what they did there, even though some people don't. Somebody's angry. Yeah. I've got my own alien over here. Shut up.

Yeah, I thought for the most, I don't understand the complaints about the cast being young. They're not, for what, a lot of comments on our Facebook page that they were teenagers. They are not teenagers. Okay. In their mid-20s. But, but Brian, I mean, just to show you how much people have to bitch, there were also people that were on our Facebook page saying, oh this is just old-fashioned old alien shit regurgitated it's like what do you want do you want young or do you want old i mean people are going to bitch either way man yeah i mean it's gonna be it's

gonna be old school alien stuff because this takes place in that time period it's not a hundred years after the first one or whatever like maybe so people aren't used to seeing young people like hollywood's been on this kick about like parade around senior citizens doing cool shit for the last couple of years, you know? Like, they're just, like, really hot on it. Like, there you go, we're getting Harrison Ford. Borderlands just came out with, you know, I'm just like, maybe it's not that they're too young,

it's that they're just not like, you know, they're not AARP. With the plot line, I mean, how old do you expect these people to be? Like, you? They make some young, stupid decisions. Yeah, and plus I thought it worked for the storyline. They're on this planet, which they're not allowed to leave because they have contracts, and they see what their lives can be when they look at older people that are still mining on the planet, and they're like, we got to get out of here. We got to do what we need to do. Yeah, the lucky ones, right?

Brian, the ones that didn't die of black lung and stuff, right, for working in the mines. Yeah. I thought the... They actually still use canaries. That shit's wild. You know what's even more wild? Do you know how many people have died from nuclear stuff instead of coal mining? A lot.

No, not at a lot at all. Oh, no? No. Like, there's, there are, like, yeah, in the, in the, in the, maybe double digits of people that have died from nuclear stuff. But like the people that die from black, long, and coal mining and shit is like in the thousands. Easy. It's insane. I believe that.

Just throwing that out there. I like the aesthetic of the ship, because it still felt like we're in that time period, because when they get on the shift, of course, they get to the control room, and it's just like thousands of what they do. I don't know, but they're theirs. Well, I think that that was a big call back to the original,

and they didn't do anything except make it look futuristic. And if I'm designing something, that I want to look futuristic, it's going to have tons of lights. Yeah. There's no way all those buttons do something. That's not... No, but you feel awesome sitting down and be like, click, click, click, click, pop. Yes.

Like the smugglers run a ride at Galaxy's Edge, Steve. A little could tell you about that. Like, they got all this fucking buttons. You got to push the buttons. You've got to turn the knobs. You've got to flip the switches. It's great, man. Like, that seems super inefficient.

Shouldn't everything be like automated at this point? Not a touch screen to be found. The video still looks like shit. It still has like lines. Like, it's VHS. It's still tube screens. Like,

I love it. Even the little video game that guy was playing. Did y'all notice that? It was like a little 64-bit game, like in a Game Boy. It's 80s. It's future in 1979. Yeah.

And it's not even like cool future. Like, when we were introduced to the alien crew, they were like truckers basically you know they were like you know they're they're blue collar asteroid co-liners uh-huh no i just i mean like in the very first alien movie yeah they were yes were they were they were they were well not coal but they were mining uh yeah they were mining uh yeah they were mining precious metals from the asteroids but this these kinds of crews aren't going to have like the best tech in the universe the top of the line shit they're going to have the

shit their company gave them you know my work van is not fucking like bells and whistles you know what I'm right right you're not driving a Tesla for work right so I I just like that the tech here kind of looks all like that and then you see the difference in their ship versus when they dock with the with the bigger ship like the difference in tech is is even like it's higher higher tech in there than it is on their ship I think uh Fetti Alvarez was the right guy to do this. I think he's a big fan of the movies. I love that Practicals came first

and it shows in the movie. There was a couple times I didn't like the the CGI effects, but it didn't take me out the film. Yeah. It did make you hesitate a little, uh, huh? Yeah. Yeah.

I know what you're not about. But I do know from keeping up with the making of this movie how much practical effects went into this movie and how important it was for him to do that. Not as gory as I thought it was going to be. It got there a little bit. It's not that there wasn't gore, but we've seen Fede Auberas go to work.

True, yeah, true. So I was expecting a little more hardcore gore in here, but, you know, it was fine. That was really Scott's fault. he was there holding his hand why for sure man oh man riddle yeah for sure he was like you're gonna do what all right we're gonna put that in the last 20 basically did what's the tibupper the toby hooper and poltergeist didn't he isn't he the one that stopped that neil blom camp movie from happening yes fucker what's wrong with this guy grabbed the old man he wanted to be involved and they were like And then that's why he said

Nope Well, that's his baby You're messing with this child I can understand I guess All right Lance what did you think Oh man

It was fun to be back in this world again This was a nice little Movie between Between Alien and aliens I thought it It fit really well Like you guys say it had the same tactile You know

When you're in the space ship It's got that same You know feel it tactile, the knobs, the switches and all that. And, you know, it was kind of seamless, I thought, the special effects, but what really got me was really, really early in the movie.

You had a scene where there was a ship going through space, and it was completely silent, which is very, very, very, very hard for a filmmaker to capture. Because normally a filmmaker, whether it be Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, whatever, like, they're

so tempted to get big explosions, right? Because you want to have explosions. You want to hear it. You want to feel it. You want to get the sound effects. But in space, no one can hear you scream. And in space, no one can hear a fucking noise because it's a vacuum. So I love the way they did that. And when the ship pulled up, I'm like, okay, are they going to start making noise now? No, they give you a beautiful score. And the score and the sound engineering in this film was fucking phenomenal.

All the sound effects. Holy fuck. Fetti Alvarez has really advanced this far. And so I got to thinking, well, there's probably a lot of people that helped him with this. And, you know, now, Nez was saying the old man was, you know, kind of handholding and all that. But whatever they were doing, it worked. I loved all the characters, not as much as aliens. You know, I didn't get attached to him as much as that. Yeah.

Like when Andy gets in, he gets bullied and you see his blood as that milky white substance, and you realize, huh, he's not a human. And that's what it kind of gets kind of interesting. Andy, the Andrew. Yes. Well, it has a little on the nose, but I did like his, I liked his character development. I thought that the actress we got, I don't know her name, she was in Civil War. Callie Spaney. There you go, there you go. She played a very serviceable. Yeah, she played a serviceable, Ripley Stand-in. I thought she was good for that. She got to have that pixie thing going, whereas Sigourney Weaver has more that buff thing going. but she did well. You know, all the side characters were good.

You know, you kind of understood what everybody's motivations were, which is difficult to do sometimes when you have an ensemble cast like that. So not a lot of complaints, man. I had fun. I will say this is the most fun I had at the movie theater since Furiosa. So like basically, you know, Dune 2, which, you know, I didn't like the movie as much as Brian did, but I still enjoyed the visual effects.

That was great on the big screen this year. Furiosa was great on the big screen. And this is what I think you've got to see in the movie theater. But I came away happy. I was satisfied with this one. Not in my top three, but this is probably my fourth favorite one. I'd go Alien, aliens, Alien 3, and then this one. Easy fourth place.

We're not that far off, Lance. We're not that far off. Yeah, not at all. Not at all. I noticed that when you were talking about, man. We're kind of like right there together. Nobody likes Alien Resurrection. That shit's at the bottom. Yes.

Oh, here we go. Here we go. Alien resurrection. I've got my girl in it, of course. Oh, that's right. That's right. I love. She's in it. I got to show her with more love. but all right Yeah No go ahead

Oh did you go Oh no I'm fixing it Oh god We forgot about it No I like this one a lot I think it was Definitely up there in the alien franchise It's one of the best ones that've come out with in a while

I am partial to Prometheus But They throw a little bit of that in here Yes, they do. And I like that. I like that they sort of build on the lore a little bit. I didn't even hate the ending. Do I go with this as my third or fourth favorite?

I don't know. But either way it beats Alien 3. I'm a little disappointed with the ending. I didn't hate it, but I just kept hearing this ending was so crazy. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. It's so crazy. I'm just straight out disappointed.

I don't hate the direction that they went, but maybe they could have done more with it. I don't know. Maybe there's another movie coming out. That's a Monday morning quarterbacking, though. I think I like what they did. And I don't hate that they changed things a little bit. It would be fair to say we will get another one

because it had a $108 million opening weekend worldwide. Okay, that's good. budget not bad all right let's hit some scores and talk spoilers wait is

wait what I didn't go who didn't go no yeah oh that's right because you're going to go last my bad I was like yes she did I called then you for oh wait

this this movie, it was like all the movie rolled up in the one. There was so much taken, well, not taken, but there was something taken from each film. Yeah. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? No, it was good. I liked it. I didn't really care so much for a lot of the fan service.

I was kind of like, really? Yeah. Get away from, okay. Yeah, that was a little much. Yeah. I was like, come on. But I get why he said that because of him being bullied and everything. But I guess they were calling the bitch.

I had an issue with the very beginning. I was like, oh. Really? The ending, I was like, we already seen this, but okay, cool. I did like that it was a active in the alien suit. thought that was cool um again all the practicals the score and i realized lance like you said i really loved how when they first that first space scene and it was all quiet man it took me back to um kubrick's 21 2001 space auditsy how that was every time they were in space it was really quiet

and i was like ooh and i thought that was nice yeah that's hard to capture for a filmmaker um everybody in it i had no issues with them being young i thought it was a good way to go because we've just had older people all the films be it just colonial Marines being at the explorers prisoners

and alien three and then pirates and resurrection um I thought all that I thought I just loved that they went this route with younger actors and they were just yeah they were trying to just they wanted a better life they were tired of being on that planet

and it sucked that you had to stay there for so long. Do your time basically before you can leave. Yeah. Like indentured servitude. Yeah. So I was like, I loved how they just found their way out of there to, hey, there's a ship up in our orbit. Let's go up there and get it and then get out of here. So I love that whole plan, but then they go sideways when they find out what's on that ship. But that was a ship in the very beginning. I don't know if I want to get into it right now on what I thought was lame of

but I mean overall I did leave the film like that was pretty awesome I thought I thought it was badass I loved it and just going practical effects through pretty much the whole film I thought that was amazing I love when they do that

Feddy Alvarez I didn't really care for Evil Dead the first time I saw it but then I had to rewatch it over and over I thought it was cool Don't Breathe. I thought that movie was awesome. I didn't see that to catch a spider or whatever. I haven't really heard much about that. You don't need to. All right.

The books are good. The movies not so much. But, I mean, overall, I thought it was really cool. I really enjoyed it. I'm going to go see it again this week. Buddy mine hasn't seen it yet, so he wants to see. And I just thought it was an awesome film. I really loved what was going on. moved pretty quick i didn't get bored at any of it it was like once it got going it was like full

throttle to the end so i thought it was awesome uh the chick from civil war it was killing me could not remember what i had seen her in and then i finally figured it out but um i thought she was good but andy he was the all-star of the film i loved his character every time he was on the screen i want i want a movie with just him because i i really love loved what he's done. I mean, out of all the synthetics we've had throughout all the films, Bishop being my favorite. Yeah, Bishop was my top, man. Then Andy and of course, the original O.G. Ash. And then even Michael Fastbenders, David. Oh, yeah. I forgot about it. He was great. He was awesome. And then he had a different name in Covenant. I can't remember his name.

um that it was cool i mean i love how they they that they have these synthetic androids or whatever and their crew and they make them a part of it they they make you like them or they either make you like them or hate them so i thought that was really cool uh that this one andy man they just made feel sorry for him right from the get-go

and then as it went along you just loved his character in that scene when they took the chip the way I was like wait wait where was this tech at in the other films and they took that little chip out

and stuck it into him and he looked like he was possessed I thought that was pretty sweet that's in the trailer everyone I thought that was really cool that was cool on how he doing they had to reboot him and all that

had like the Wayland Utani logo on his eyes that's right everything's Wayland Utani in the Reeboks I thought that was cool to bring that back

I guess they're selling those for like 170 or something I'm like those those are going to I think they're going to be available like on the 27th they're going to be sold out immediately yeah

I'll get some bootleg ones I like the high top ones they had in aliens I like those like moon boots I like those can buy those for a thousand on eBay.

Well, not back then when they came out a long time ago. It was way cheaper. I was back in the... Jordans were 20 bucks for two pairs, like cope once. You get some old school Reebok pumps. I used to rock those all time, man. I mean, but overall, I mean, when I left the theater, I wasn't mad. I did read reviews and watch reviews on YouTube.

Some people were complaining, like, oh, this and that. Yeah, why were these kids there and all this? It was just a different take, man. We've seen, like I said, old people throughout all the films. So it was good. It was kind of like a breath of fresh air, bringing in a different kind of a cast, and even making the synthetic younger instead of being an old man. Yeah.

I think David was probably the youngest before Andy came out, and then that's how it went. But in the end, I left the theater going, man, that was an awesome film. I'm hoping once it comes out on 4K or Blu-ray or whatever, they have packet full of extras because I really want to see a lot of the stuff on how they made this film. But in the end, I loved it. I thought it was an awesome film. Yeah, Naz, my acid test was as soon as that maybe was over,

I thought, okay, if AJ wants to go see this tomorrow, would I go? And my answer was a resounding yes. Okay. That's good to know. I like it. all right scores and then we'll get this some because i have questions uh all right so steve you went first uh seven and a half seven all right brian yeah i'm right there seven and a half all right lance holy shit seven and a half seven a half i think is is a pretty good score i almost

want to give it an eight but i think i'm going to go seven and a half i think that makes sense I'll give it. I'll go up. I'll give it in me. I liked it. Nice. There you go, man. You hate it the most.

All right. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Okay.

So, this was not the original ship because it was a different Android, correct? Spoilers. Oh, we're in spoilers now. Yeah, it was not the original shit. No. This was an ash. This was just another version of that model. Another ash model.

Yeah, kind of like how you had David, and I think his name was Walter and the other one. Yeah. Walter. Wasn't it Walter? Yeah. I think so. So how does this tie into the alien, aliens, movies?

That's the alien. The alien that's up in the rafters is the alien from the first movie. That got shot out the ship. But how did that happen? They sucked it in in the beginning. That big rock they pulled in. Oh, that was it. Okay.

That was, they said it wouldn't, they said not even the deep space could stop it from living. Like, it just turned itself in like a crystallist. Like, you see how they change their bodies and shit. They morph to adapt and all that crap. Frozen and Carbonite. Yeah. Yeah. They said lack of oxygen and lack of food didn't affect it.

Okay. That was my problem. I thought that was cool that they found it that are survived. But my problem with that scene when I rolled my eyes and let out the biggest grunt, the Nostromo blew up and basically a big nuclear blast. Right. Ripley had to get away from that, from the blast radius. order to survive. So she must have been miles and miles away before that thing blew up.

And when the, when she shot the xenomorph in the gut, that spirit thing, and then it went out into the little jet blast thing, and then she blasted it back out into space. I was like, okay, cool. But I was kind of like, wait a minute. Why didn't it burn it up? I mean, you got bullets tearing through aliens and destroying them all. Yeah, nuclear blast should have done some damage. You would think so, right? Well, Philip just said nuke, nukes don't hurt you.

I guess we're like in space glass. In space, what is that like, how far does that blast radius go in the vacuum of space? Well, he was in the engine, so. Right. But she blasted it out. It should at least burn.

It, to me, if bullets can go through it, and I'm sure a hot flames or jet blast could kill it, but I'm like, I'll let it fly. They said it lived. It sounds like they're pretty hard to kill, guys. That wasn't my... I don't know.

Like, you could put your boot on its face and shoot it in the head of the machine gun and take it out pretty good. Yeah. You might burn yourself up. Yeah, you might get a lot of acid splashed on you. Intergalactic cockroaches, man. They ran them over and they killed them. But anyway, that's not my problem. Yeah, aliens?

Sure. That's not my problem. My problem was, again, they were miles and miles away. Okay. And when that ship... and this one, and Romulus came flying up. Right. And they found the cocooned.

I was like, wait a minute. There's no way. Yeah, I can hear this. It's the whaling corporation. Wait a minute. What is it right? I'm sorry. It's the whaling corporation. They're everywhere.

But like why go through all the effort to find this one alien when they're like everywhere? Everywhere. Yeah. Maybe they're not yet That was also my question Like how does it lead in to aliens Because that seems to be a completely separate event It is

It doesn't really lead into aliens I'll just place before I'll bet it does somewhere though I'll bet it does somewhere I'll bet you somebody's going to write some novels Well so if Ripley was asleep for 56 years or whatever Right Right

And this movie they said it took It's 40 years after the first movie. So there's still 16 years between here and then. Sure, sure. But didn't they refer to Ripley? Yeah, well, Ashton about the first ship that she, there was only one survivor. The one that survived. Well, how do they know that she's a survivor if they haven't found her yet? Well, they just know that she wasn't like... They know she's not dead. Yeah. Oh. But they don't, I mean... They don't know. They don't know where she's got.

Well, there's like a one in a thousand chance, right, that they would have found her. And that seems like a weird odds for like being a floating deep space like it was only one in a thousand chance i'm like more like one in a billion right so i have a better chance of finding ripley a deep space floating around than i do of like going outside and getting hit by a car right like the fact that they would call her the survivor is like but you don't know that maybe they're going off of maybe they're going off of because 50 fucking years maybe maybe they're going off of because she's the only one one that used one of the escape ships escape pods.

All right. So they're still tracking her down? That's government efficiency for you. The pods play a big part in this movie, right? Like they had to make sure that they had enough, what was it they had to make sure they had enough oxygen or fuel? The fuel, the cry of fuel. You got to keep that shit.

I mean, it was a little far-fetched, right? You got these kids, these younger people that are going to find like a ship to get them, My whole, you know, they're not allowed to leave the planet, right? Well, they didn't just find the ship. You saw him go and she talks to the lady, and Whaley Utani gives him the business, like, actually, you know, it was twice a bit at a time. Like, damn, it's fucked up.

And they're like, yeah. They're like, we found the ship in space. We need to go look at it. And then they take off and go. And I'm like, how are you just able to take off and go? And why, when you get up there, isn't there already like a ton of Whelanutonie people up there? It's like right above. No shit.

I don't know. But if they work as. they work as miners is maybe not part of their job to go up there and mine shit. So they probably have access to these

ships. We don't. We don't tracking that. Wouldn't they have to log in with somebody, like sign a log sheet or something like that? Well, probably. I don't know, but it's also a future age's future. Yeah, but if they were just going to pop off and leave, who's going to be like,

hey, they're not authorized to leave the area. Yeah, they're just going to be like, oh, well, it's just going up to do their thing. So jumping up, so jumping up to that spaceship to go up there to the space station is kind of like me or you just getting our Mustang to get into the 7-Eleven then, right? I guess so. You guys got Mustangs?

I do. And like, you know, but like you, you know there's like sometimes there's that supervisor where you can go down and get to the 7-1-11. Yeah, I mean, we don't. Sometimes there's that supervisor where you can't. We don't know what kind of jobs the, the, the, you know. We know what kind of job Rain had the main character. We know she worked in the minds.

We don't know the other ones. Maybe they had special Clarence to go. Well, they can obviously fly the ship. I like that. But I'm just like, okay, so they've been on this planet for all these decades, right? So how does one of them have a cotany accent? And the other one has like an American accent. Rainbow Coalition, man.

They came from here. But like, they've been generations on this fucking planet, way the fuck out. nine years away from any other planet. One guy's like, this in the WALA. I'm like, where the fuck did you come from? They're a people colony. I'm getting the impression. I'm getting the impression none of us are pissed at any of this.

We're all just trying to like, oh yeah, no, I don't care about any of it. It's just funny. It's little nits to pick, but it's still like none of this took me out of the movie. I didn't like sit there and contemplate it while it was going on. I was waiting for the in the Wola guy to fucking bite him. I didn't like him. He was a dick.

He was a dick. He was a dick. I'm so disappointed, though, in the floating acid scene that nobody floated through the acid. I know. Yeah, that would have been awesome. Somebody needed to go through it because that was such a good effect. Like, I love that whole thing about, like, the gravity going on and off. And when she's floating into that in that elevator shaft and you know the gravity's about to come back on,

you're like, oh shit. Like, that's really tense. Yeah. Yeah. That was. It wasn't as tense. Like, aliens had me, like, on the edge of my seat, the whole fucking movie. Like, what the fuck's going to happen next?

This one was kind of, ah, it's a little too far-fetched. Because are you really going to go right through that fucking... Far-fetched in the science fiction horror film? Yeah, I would have been out... How can you go right through that fucking acid without at least, you know, like, you know, losing an arm or something, right? I would have been out, like, immediately when they first... opened the hatch door and they're like you gotta crawl through that I'm like no

I'm not trying to do that how did you guys how did you guys feel I kind of lost me at the end though with the the human metheus humanoid creature

I hate it because not only did we do this in Prometheus but we also did this in Resurrection yeah and it didn't work in resurrection and this one he looks like a fucking like an accountant with a Fupa he looks terrible.

Like, it's just a bad look. It looks weird, man. He looked like, what were they called? The engineers? Yeah. I could see part of it, but, like, they were more, like, muscular. And, like, they had the good, he was all skinny and sucked in, and it just gave it a weird. Slender man.

Yes, Sanderman with a tail. At least we didn't fall asleep watching it, Brian. I mean, it was a good effect, the whole. her giving birth and then immediately seeing it and saying get it away from me and then I was excited I was like what's that going to look like and then I saw it and then Slender Man

I was like not this I was disappointed and she injected and she injected herself correct yes she is right there she was going off because she wasn't there for the whole conversation she was just going off of it can help you heal or it can sustain you

until you get help. And that's one of the best things that we got as viewers, because we know that all it took is one little drop on the tip of David's finger to fucking wreck everything. And she stuck her neck with, like, a whole bunch of that shit. But, like, why didn't she change? I don't know, maybe because she was pregnant. Maybe.

I don't think, I don't think she wasn't going to change, but she ended up her child or whatever. It was called killed her. It was geared more to help you heal. It wasn't going to be. make you change. Not like the stuff from Prometheus, where that guy that when David put it in his drink and he drank it, he did change.

But it also did something to his sperm because then when he went and smashed his girlfriend, she ended up getting, had that baby. And it took it. It was a slow change. That was like over like a day or two. Like she was only alive for another five minutes here. If it's wayland, I ain't trusting it. I had, I had an issue because we've never really explained it or maybe they did and I just

didn't know. the cocooned one that they found the beginning. My first off shouldn't have been in that space, the Nostromo debris. It should have been somewhere else, but I didn't make this film. That was my big issue with that scene. I was like, no. No, I don't

what you tell me. No, there's no way that they could have been there. But anyway. Is that where they pulled it from? Yeah. Yeah. Because remember they drove into all the page, and then they found it? It shouldn't have been there. Not really. Like, it didn't, it didn't click until they got through it. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what are we happening here?

Why not? Lance, you're on mute while you're just going on. I think he's not talking to us. Oh. Thank you. No, because the ship blew up in one direction and the ship was going the other direction. And she blew the alien back towards where the record was. She blew the alien.

Philip, do you hear that? I don't care I'm not getting hung up on any of this I get it I get it I get it I get it It's one of those details

She was miles away from that thing And anyway I mean even that big That big of a blast Should have blue pieces Everywhere It just went back into the pile, man They were all

I just feel like it's a minor thing To get hung up on Yeah It is It goes Goes back to the Oman The first Oman movie No

Well that was That was different. That was a continuity error on their part. This is just a placement of the alien in space. And I don't mean to detective this shit out, but, like, I mean, you kind of have to expect that if you're going to make an alien movie. Okay, Inspector Phillips. Take us down the rabbit hole. The thought happened, but never really, like, needed to see.

but now I know it happens and now I have a good visual is what the facehuggers actually do. You know, how, how, how, all the gory detail. They hug you. It's so loving. Well, there was a lot of the giant imagery, too. Yeah, we got the image of, we got the image of one going deep down in the throat, and then we got the other one just kind of going around the lips. Yeah, but then that was that one that, like, jumped at the window,

and his little dick was flapping around, like, I was hilarious I was like ooh they didn't really want you and then they're like then they added a new element they're like they're like T-rexes as long as they make the room hot

and you're quiet we can walk past I'm like Okay what so that's sort of Well I know but aside from that But that's sort of my theory of the male female alien situation right like all the big all the big bad aliens

are female right They're like all queens Well except that some of them are definitely soldiers. Like ants. Like ants. Yeah, like ants. But like they don't have a gen.

They're just, they're just alien. They're just xenomorphs. But the alien version are the facehuggers who will fuck anything that moves. Sound familiar? They're having sex with your face. That's what they're doing. And it's over when the alien says it's over, right? Well, except for, like, you know, like scientifically speaking, like there's no egg there.

So they're obviously, it is obviously the same organism that's just growing, but still. They said it was breathing. It was like, it's fine with oxygen, it's breathing. I'm like, I don't know. That's not what it looks like. Yeah. I have a little dog. I know what that looks like.

All right. Hey, we got a wrap up. Hold on. Because anything else super important to add to it. Yes. I had something else to say. All right. What we were told through the movies that the queens are the only ones that can lay the eggs.

And I was like, all right, because they showed it in aliens and they showed it in the first Alien versus Predator to film. Well, that makes sense. This one. Yeah. This one, the alien, the original xenomorph that they went out and found, they took. It was able to lay eggs and everything because that's where they got all the facehuggers from. Because that's the female. There's no gender to these things.

Yeah. What's in the eggs, the facehuggers? It's aliens. It's a completely different thing. It's not a male, female, or whatever, you know? Because they didn't go into it because I was sitting there thinking, I was like, wait a minute, how can this one lay eggs? That's not a queen. But if you guys...

Maybe it was a queen. it just didn't fully mature. That makes sense. I like Brian's Cleans. No, because if you guys remember, if you guys watched the

director's cut one, the special edition, an alien, when Ripley goes down and she finds Dallas and Brett cocoon, that alien, the original xenomorph was going to lay eggs so we can put facehuggers

on them. That's what it was going to do. But they cut that scene from, the original film. So this is the original alien. That's how they got all the eggs and everything. They kind of brought it back to life and then they were able to get eggs and everything out of it. That's why

there was so many of them when they went in there and they basically unfrozen them and woke them all up. I mean, there were a lot of eggs and aliens too, then as a lot, remember? But that original xenomorph is the one that caused

it all to have all those facehuggers and all those other extra things going on that they had on that spaceship that they found. So, because I was like, wait a minute. Because even one of my friends, they can all lay eggs. I said, well, if you saw that first scene that they cut, you realize that's what they were doing. So I was like, okay, I was kind of hoping they would go into that a little more.

But the movie is how that one, when it came back to life and killed everybody on that ship, that's something I want to see. because it looked like... We're going to get something. Yeah, we might get it. We might get it. Plus, I want to see the battle at LV246 or whatever that is before the Marines got there. Because if you guys remember, when they rolled in there, it was all like there was a big old war.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could only see the aftermath of it. From the original alien? And only new aliens still there. Best scene of this one, though, was when Andy fully rebooted. Snatched that facehugger out of midair and snacked it into the wall. It was like, yes. Perfect timing.

More of that. That was very cool the way that they dealt with Andy. I like that. And I saw a lot of people that were complaining that he was like, oh, what? So he's like mentally not there or whatever. That's what I thought at first. I thought he was like on the spectrum, like rain man or something. Obviously.

But he was an early model. right? Well, he was a salvage model that her father had repaired to be her like surrogate brother. And so obviously he doesn't have the memory and the RAM and all the stuff that makes it and then he gets the upgrade and oh, well

suddenly his artificial intelligent is a little bit more intelligent. I think that makes total sense. What a huge universe. So we got to leave it for now because this show is going super long but Steve, how could how can our listeners find you guys at the geeks, man?

Just anywhere you get your podcast or look on YouTube, look for the geeks, Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff. What about those fucking wonderful toys or those T-shirts? Oh. Where do you get all those wonderful T-shirts? Look up S-E designs on T-Public or Boondocks. That's my artist handles. So Boondocks with an X and you'll find all the fun designs over there. And head over to Hortar Returns, T-Public for some more of my cool stuff.

All right. And, uh, Nez, what's going on with, uh, Mac Nez, dude, these days? I, we're all over the place. San Diego Comic Con, fallout, right? Yeah, we just dropped our, um, latest one with a bunch of movies. I did, I did talk about Romulus on that. I was the only one that saw it. Uh, Theo didn't see it yet.

Um, also for you big brother fans, uh, falling down, that's the goal. But, um, that's what the Zizu likes, man. So I'm like that. All right. to do it. And I also did a ESP Rewind. We're rolling up on 50 years of the original Texas chainsaw. So I kind of did a run through of that one.

I was not in the right state of mind, but I did it. That's all that matters. The show must go on, right? That's all we got. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. just go to www.

thehorror returns.com and get everywhere you want from there. Next week, Philip is kind of questioning this one. Did The Crow really need to be remade? Brian, what do you think, man? Are you excited about this? Or are you kind of skeptical?

Can't say I'm excited, but my mind towards movies remake anything. Because if it's bad, it doesn't change the original one. That's true. All right, fair enough. I'm kind of 50-50 about this one.

Yeah, me too, man. What about you, Steve? I will apprehensively watch it. I don't think it needs. It doesn't need to be remade. But like Brian said, it's not going to hurt my feelings if it sucks. I can still go back and watch Brandon Lee and glorious VHS. I thought you were going to say Edward Furlong.

That movie sucks. You should watch it, though, before next week. I'm going to. How many people knew that Edward Furlong was in a crow movie? The troll. I knew. I saw it. Yeah, but see, the thing is, you've got, you've got, you've got, you've got, you've got, you've got, you've got, the Coraline 15th anniversary.

You've got, uh, what else? Nobody, nobody's watching borderlands. Oh, blinged twice. Blink twice, right? So nobody's watching blink twice. Nobody's watching that. I want to watch, I want to watch. I want to watch.

but I don't think it's going to... But wait. Questions about... Has anybody seen Borderlands? No, but I want to. I don't want to. I do. I kind of enjoyed the...

I kind of did want to, but everybody says it sucks. Lance, I don't believe you. It's the Eli Roth movie. I don't think you wanted to see it. Yeah, but the trailer kind of got me, dude. But you've also got Strange Darling coming out Friday. And that trailer was interesting. I know it's only got like 30 reviews,

but it's said, 100% right now on Rot Tomatoes. Hey, we may have a very diverse school of the week next week. It's who knows, right? The jury's out. So, uh, all right. Thanks for listening again. And

Phillip, until next week, good night.