The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #433: Beetlejuice (1988) & Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (2024)

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

This week, we say his name 3 times as the B man is back! Cool of the week includes Milk and Serial, USDC, and KAOS. Trailers are Apartment 7A and Wolf Man. The podcast spotlight shines on Hell Raisers. And we get feedback from Steven Lowblad, Matt Wood, Mike Batchelor, David Barta, Lee Jones, Michael Prazeres, Martin Redacteur Creatif, and Ray Cannington. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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to The Horror Returns. It's the greatest show on earth. Say it three times, and Brian appears. But thanks for listening. Glad you guys are tuned in. Brian and Philip, what's up with you guys, man? Not much Yeah

Same old, same old Same shit Same shit, different day As you'll say, huh? Yeah Getting ready for whatever Hurricanes coming through next Oh yeah

You guys have one right there It looks like it may hit you more than me though You think so? Yeah Let me look at the map here Or like Mostly Louisiana I think Ah, okay

Yeah, it's kind of headed that way. But there's more stuff forming. Brian, do you guys get any hurricanes up there in Alaska? No, I don't think so. Not too many? No. Not in my lifetime. All right.

Earthquakes. Yeah, earthquakes. Oh, fuck, man. All right. Y'all get wildfires, do you? Brian? There's been a few. But not like in California or anything.

like that. From time to time, huh? Nothing like California and Nevada, all that shit, where they're constantly on fire three months over the year. But it's usually the same shit. Some asshole through a cigarette into something

and we're smoky the bear when you need him. I'm telling you. All right. Kish, you guys are wondering, this is the horror returns. I'm Lance. With me as always are my co-host. Brian and Philip, and we don't always talk about hurricanes.

We usually talk about horror movies and Halloween right around the corner, guys. You know, got plans for what you're going to do, giving it any thought or you can watch like a 31 days of horror or anything like that, Philip? Not at all. No? No. Do you watch Christmas movies all October? Well, I'm sure I'll watch some horror movies and stuff. I don't know if the kids are too old to be trick-or-treating.

My son is going to be, he'll be 14. the time Halloween rolls around. He's not too old. He's not too old. He's not too old, but he might want to go with his friends. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Maybe we'll do that.

Or hit up a haunted house or something. Yeah. Very good chance. We're going to Universal a couple of times. We got our awesome horror returns T-shirts that Steve created. So we've got like seven different shirts, four different designs. Fuck yeah, man. I love that logo, man.

Nice, nice. Yeah, we're kind of getting away from the original skull artwork by Natsalani, but it's still there. So maybe we can reach out to our friend Jay and see if she can hook us up with some more designs. Although Steve Carlton is really taken care of us. That's Carlton from the Geeks. And I was listening to them. Brian, you listen to pretty much every episode. episode, don't you?

Yeah, I didn't get a chance to listen to the last week, so. Did you catch the comedy, like Sweet 16 of comedy or whatever it was, where they got down to like the 40-year-old virgin and one other movie? Yeah, I didn't necessarily like the bracket. That's kind of a weird bracket, wasn't it? I mean, I can't tell you off top of my head, but I felt like there was some movies. Best singer. Yeah. What's,

Philip, what's your favorite comedy of all time? Favorite comedy of all time? That's tough, man. It's a tough one,

isn't it? I think, personally, I'm a big fan of Jay and Silent Bob Strikeback and Goldmember. I can quote, like,

both movies in their entirety. But that's more personal thing. Are they the best comedies of all time? Probably not, but I love them. They're pretty good,

man. I think that's what Brian was getting at. They were, either one of those was on the bracket, right, Brian? Yeah, it felt like someone, whoever made the bracket put their, their personal.

Yeah, that's exactly what it felt like. They had a couple of Adam McKay movies on there. I think maybe like one Fairley Brothers movie. Yeah, I think that was my problem with the bracket. It all seemed to be in like one time period of movies

Yes, yes, very much so. Yeah, mid-90s, early 2000s period probably. Well, that's kind of when the last great comedies came out, man. There was one that came out not too long. Oh, never mind. It wasn't a comedy. I'm thinking about the roast of Tom Brady. That was a comedy in and of itself. But yeah, you're right. Not too much coming out that's great, you know. And then McKay's doing like serious stuff now. What are you going to do? You know? Even Jordan Peel is doing like, you know, heavy-duty horror movies now.

Yeah. It's like happened to all the comedy, man. Come on. Well, you can't make those jokes anymore. Go back and watch one. You'll go, oh, wow, I can't believe they said that. Yeah, but you'll believe it because it's there forever, right? To listen to over and over again.

So, cool of the week. Brian, what you got, man? I have three movies this week Going light on the horror Because I'm stacking up my My list for 31 Yeah, got some comedies to throw at us, Brian I got a couple of action films

And I got one horror Because I had to check it out But I'll wait for that one Talk about that one last The first one I'll talk about is Jeremy I'm probably going to pronounce his last named Saul Nair. He did Green Room and Blue Ruin.

He has a new Netflix movie called Rebel Ridge. I've heard of this. I heard this is pretty good, man. It's essentially first blood. Where except a drifter, you got the guy, he's not a drifter, he has a purpose for coming into the town. And instead of dirty, or instead of asshole cops, you got. corrupt dirty ones in a small town. Wow, never heard of that twist before in a movie.

And Don Johnson is the sheriff. Oh, God, that's great, man. Who's the drifter? He's a new actor. Well, he's new to me, I think. Oh, okay. Aaron Pierre. He looks like one of those guys,

like he looks familiar. Yeah. Kind of like, that's that guy. He was in that movie. Yeah. Not necessarily like I've seen him in a lot, but he looks familiar. He might look like somebody else, I'm thinking of. But he did a pretty decent job.

And my only problem is it took a while to get to the action. It was a lot of buildup. Okay. Kind of slow, getting going. But once the police find out what his job was in the military, then the action starts to ramp up after that. Brian, he was mid-sized sedan in M-Nights old. That's right, he sure was.

You remember that one, Philip? Mid-sized sedan? Mid-sized sedan. Greatest character name ever. Oh, that was his name. His character was a rapper. Oh, yeah. That's the guy.

That's the guy. I was trying to think, what the fuck is this guy been in? So instead of a little whatever or big whatever, he's mid-sized sedan. Mid-sized. Yeah, he did a pretty decent job in the movie. I would say... Yeah, well... Violent action, right?

Well, if you've seen Jeremy's... I think, I swear I'm pronouncing it right, if I'm not, it's fun to say it. Yeah. If you've seen Green Room and Blue Ruined, those are violent movies. And then he had another one with... I can't think of his name. He was in Westworld. Somebody from this movie?

No, another movie. I can't think of it, but it was another Netflix movie, and that one had some violent moments in it. So he does good action, but you got to sit through the movie for a good minute to build up the story before you get to that. It's not just straight action through the movie. Yeah, with the way he names his movies, I'm surprised they didn't call this one like, you know, red ridge or something like that, you know?

Get all the primary colors represented there? Yeah, he was on a roll for a minute, green room, blue ruin. Blue, right. Let's see, what else did I check out? I checked out a new action movie from India called Kill. I've heard of this one. India, I've heard of this one. Yeah, got to have a dance number in the middle, Philip.

Yeah, I wanted to check it out because it just came out a few months ago, and it's already getting an American remake. Oh, boy. So I figured out, check out this one. It's essentially the raid and John Wick on a train. Oh, okay. Jesus Christ, man, okay. Do they do the crazy Indian action stuff?

no it's just it's straight John Wick, Ray Oh alright Well that's cool Not what I expected But it's cool Yeah I've heard good things about it right

Yeah it's fun It is subtitled So you do do some reading But it's not too hard to follow The story's not too deep He's on the train for a reason And once you find out the reason It goes from there

And he kicks a lot of ass He has a partner with him that kicks a ass too, but it's mostly focused on him. He kind of works his way through a lot of bad guys. That's what happens when you run out of bubble gun. Yeah. And I think there was only one gun used throughout the entire movie. It was mostly like knives and machetes and mallets and stuff like that. That's cool.

How'd they get a mallet on a train? You got to watch the movie. It was one of those small ones. Oh, okay. Not a croquet mallet? Like a fucking Looney Tunes mallet? So I also recommend that one, but my cool of the week is a movie that I've been hearing a lot about. It's a YouTuber made of found footage horror movie called Milk and Serial.

And Serial spelled like Serial. killer. Oh, okay. Really fucking good movie. And I think Matt Woods commented on it when I posted. I was watching it. He said the

guy's budget for the movie was only $800. Oh, wow. That's crazy. That's crazy, man. And the main character is a YouTuber, so there's a reason for the camera

always being on. Yeah, that makes sense. Mm-hmm. And you follow basically this guy, milk it's on his birthday party not trying to give too much away. They do a prank on him and then the prank kind of

goes another direction and you got your found footage horror movie and I was really impressed. All right. And it's, I think it's only an hour long. Okay. That doesn't overstay it's welcome.

And is it full found footage? Brian or did they like switch filming styles? Found footage all the way through. Yeah. Well, with an $800 budget, that makes sense. Yeah. Once you find out

what the character does, it makes sense. So three recommendations right there, but my cool of the week will be milk and cereal. Milk and cereal. Yeah, a lot of people are posting that right now, Philip. We got to check it out.

Yeah. I actually do have a YouTube cool week because I haven't been watching much. Well, okay, so I'll give one of them to football because it's back. So that was fun. Of course. And then my other one is called the Ultimate Self-Defense Championship. I ran across it on YouTube. Yeah. USDA or whatever. It's like they got these YouTube. you two fighters together from all these different

like martial arts backgrounds and they run them through all these tests and it's they're sort of trying to see which fighting style is best but it kind of turns into an endurance thing but they like they gear them all up and like they'll uh they just

started the second season of it the first season is full out there on YouTube and they just started the second season they've got one episode and their challenge so far was teaming up, hiding in this building, and then they send like four dudes in there looking for them. And they have, they have like these, like a knife, but with markers on the end. So they're trying to stab them.

And their goal is to get out of the building and get to the getaway car before they get killed. And they all died. A fun fact we learned on the last season was It doesn't matter how talented you are If you're going up against the guy with the knife You're probably gonna die Like there's no knife self-defense shit doesn't work at all Oh man

Well that's kind of so it's like Like YouTubers that have like Fighting and Martial Arts channels or something Yeah like there's a there's a guy in there who is his name Viking samurai I don't think he's on there I don't think he's on there

that guy loves him some Stephen Seagall One of the dudes one of the dudes from this season Actually He he was saying he like Because he like arm barred this guy And he was like it's a move that

Steven Seagal taught me And then it clips over to him Right With Steven Seagal doing it And he's like I'm just kidding I knew it before I went there But But

Anyway, it's a lot of fun. I was pretty impressed by the production value. And they just, like, stick all these guys in a house together for a week and run through all these tests and beat them up. And usually big advantage if you have a knife. Yeah, apparently so, because none of them have gotten away from a knife guy yet, I don't think. But, I mean, the guy with the knife, like the guys that they're fighting also know what they're doing. And so they come at them just stab and stabbing, stabbing. You know?

Yeah. Like prison yard stuff. Knowing what they're doing. Shaking them up. Pretty much. As long as they don't run up against anyone with a gun, it's about 10 feet away. They're okay, right? That's true.

Otherwise, they're fucked. Remember Indiana Jones? Yeah. All the sword play. 21 feet seems to be the rule, but we'll see. Okay. I'll take a shot in the gut before I take. I'll take a knife in the gut before I take a ball.

bullet. Oh, yeah. Easier to stitch up, usually, right? Does that, is that your cool of the week? That's my cool week, man. That's all I got. All right. What's it, what's it called again? Ultimate self, ultimate self-defense championship. All right. And you say this is free on YouTube?

Yeah. All right, cool. All right. But we, maybe we'll do a commentary or something. Since we never finished doing all of our tales from the Crip stuff, right? Oh, yeah. Whoops. Oh, man, I've got, I got to leave with Not So Cool of the Week, Brian.

Okay. You guys, you guys didn't hate it, which kind of surprises me. What the fuck has happened to M. Knight? This may be trap? Are you kidding me? I don't you guys give it like seven or something? I think we gave it like fives. Fives? Okay.

Yeah, it's pretty mid. I don't remember me and Phil loving it either. Man, people were, and you know what? I think I drank the Kool-Aid when I saw old, and I kind of liked the concept. So I forgave some really, really shitty dialogue, but oh, my God, M. Nye's dialogue has just gotten horrible. Like, these scenes with his daughter, where she's just like, you know, looking offstage, like, you can tell she's reading Q cards. And then this guy, how

does he get away from all this stuff? It's like he disappears into a fucking abandoned car. There's literally 30 cops around him at a SWAT team. And they look and they open the door and they're like, he's gone. What did he have a trap door under the car? What? What is going on with this dude, man? That's a good point.

It's ridiculous. Oh, man, this is rough. At least the music was good. Right? You know? M. Knight's daughter melted them out. I don't know. She's cutie. Man. I'll give her that. Yeah, that's a bad movie. Kind of like the Indian Ariana Grande. She reminded me of a little bit.

Oh, yeah. Okay, I guess that makes sense. She did have that kind of look to her. Oh, man. That was rough. You guys like Jeff Goldblum? Are y'all Jeff Goldblum fans? Oh, yeah, dude. So he's great. Isn't he good in like the Marvel movies and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. He's always like a weird leader type guy.

What did you think, Brian? In the Marvel movie? Yeah. Remember he was in... He's only in one. One with Thor and Hulk. I thought he showed up in another one. He made a small appearance in another one.

A little cameo, maybe. Gotcha. Yeah, he was good, and he was very willie-wanka-esque. Yeah. Yeah, pretty well. That sort of works for him. Oh, man. Could you guys imagine him playing Zeus, like the Greek God Zeus?

You think he could pull it off? Better than Russell Crow. Russell Crow was pretty goddamn good, man. I liked the Zeus, yeah, that was pretty good. All right. Well, my cool of the week, I'm sticking with Netflix, Brian. This eight-episode series, I don't know if they're going to do anymore if it was self-contained, but you guys heard of Chaos, K-A-O-S?

I've heard of it I don't know what it's about No Oh man It's a trip dude It's like every year Netflix gives me something really good So this is it for me

Yeah once a year Like it was always the Oh man What was the one with the vampires in it It was the The pastor Yeah all the Flanagan stuff Oh yeah

House of Usher was last year Right. And the year before that was the vampire stuff. Midnight Mass? Midnight Mass. That's the one I was trying to do. So I guess Planting has left Netflix. But yeah, this is pretty, this is a trip. And it's like a retelling of the, of Greek mythology. So you have like all the characters from the Greek myths like Poseidon.

Oh, okay. And you've got, yeah, like Ares and, you know, the different characters like that, the gods and the demigods and stuff like that. but Jeff Goldblum's narrating He's like Yeah Goldblum actually plays Zeus Oh And he does

He doesn't do the narrating The narrating is done Is done by a different character I don't want to give too much away But like if you know anything It all about Greek mythology You'll kind of recognize the storylines But it's set

Kind of in the present But it's sort of everything's got Kind of a retro look Like they've got like old You know landline telephones that they're using in fax machines and stuff like that. But it's definitely interesting. Brian, I thought for a minute they were going to go into a musical

in the first episode, and you'll be happy to know they don't. So it passes that test for you. It's really violent, man. A lot of blood and gore, a lot of fight scenes and stuff like that, which, you know, you would expect in interest. I don't know if I could picture Jeff Goldblum as Zeus. He's a douchebag. Basically he's a douchebag, Zeus, if you can imagine that.

Like, he's out there swinging the golf club and, like, shooting it at tennis ballboys that are serving him and stuff like that. It's just like, hey, I'm Zeus. I can do whatever I want, you know. It's pretty interesting. I don't want to give too much away. The storyline is, like, I guess it's similar to Greek mythology, but they kind of go in their own direction. So a lot of British talent is in it. like you guys familiar with David Thuleus, British actor?

You would know, he's done a lot of Shakespeare stuff and like, Oh, I really don't know him now. He's been in some Harry Potter and things like that. He plays Hades and, um, the guy that was in, um, I think he's in Fear of the Walking Dead. Is his name, um, Cliff Curtis? Does that ring a bell, Brian? Oh, the guy's in everything.

Yeah, he plays Poseidon. So it's kind of a mix bag of character actors, but for only eight episodes, they average about 50 minutes an episode, not quite an hour, so it's probably about seven hours, but AJ and I

binged it in a couple of nights. I recommend it. Check it out. If you like Greek mythology, or if you just want to see something that's like totally whacked out weird. They should do one where they do like Greek mythology, but they're actually aliens. And like Mount Olympus is their mothership or something.

That would be fucking great. That might be season two, Philip. I think you might have just called season two. Like, how come nobody's made this show yet? You know, somebody's got to. They're doing everything else, so why not? Yeah, that's cool of the week. Brian, we got any headlines to talk about this week.

Yeah, we're going to start with one of your favorite franchises. the Twilight franchise. Okay, sure. I'll tell me they're doing another one. Netflix has announced a new Twilight animated series title of the Midnight Sun.

Whoa. Why are you doing that? They got to have that demon, baby. Oh, my God. You guys ever heard, or Brian, you probably might have. You ever listened to the Midnight Horror show podcast when that was going regularly.

Remember when they used to call it Taint Light? Yeah. Yeah. So is it Taint Light, the animated series, Philip, or what? What are we getting here? What are we getting here, man? Come on. The fuck is this. I don't know who okayed this.

I'm pretty sure everybody's done. I'm pretty sure everybody's done with Twilight. Oh, my God. Are they doing the Edward Cullen actor doing his voice because I think he's going to be busy with Batman stuff, right? I don't think he's coming back. Okay.

They've got some 35-year-old nerd lady in there who just cannot get past the series who's like, we need to do this animated. I heard Dave DeHans available. Maybe he'll play...

I'm 100% sure he's available. Well, he kind of looks like a vampire anyway. Kind of, right? And he can get all the rest he can. He's just got to do voice work. Yeah. Take naps. Right.

All right. She a little heroin come back to the microphone. Let's see. Dan Stevens is going to star alongside Al Pacino in a new exorcism movie titled The Ritual. Al Pacino. That sounds amazing. That sounds great, man. lose the body

let's see are you guys familiar with the ice cream man comic book series I'm afraid of the movies with Richie Cunningham's brother in it right? This has nothing to do with that it's a loosely

connected anthology horror comic series huh never heard of it well it's getting a movie adaptation and the writers of Beetlejuice, Beatlejuice, Alfred

Go and Miles Millar are going to be writing it or adapting it for a movie. They write a lot of stuff. They've done a lot of TV work too, haven't they, Brian? Like, do the Arrow series and stuff like that, or am I thinking of somebody else?

I think they have. I think they've done a lot of stuff. Mm-hmm. Very, from what I understand, very popular comic book series. Ice cream man, huh? Yeah. Let's see. You got a couple more things here.

My least favorite actress and one of your favorite actresses, Kiki Palmer. Set to start in a series adaptation of Joe Dante's The Burbs. Nice. I'm all about it, man. Yes. breaking my rule this sounds like trash uh-oh

don't prejudge it Brian you gotta give it a chance come on well it's got Kiki Palmer in it she's gonna be super extra with everything she does in the series you can count on it yeah she definitely does that you can count on it

and finally we finally get a release date for Salem's lot October 3rd It really does exist. Yeah. Streaming straight to max October 3rd. Hmm.

Doesn't sound awesome. Great. Yeah. They've already done what a movie and a sequel and a TV series, right? So what are they going to do from here? That was 79.

Okay. Well, I guess we're about due. I don't have the cast on hand, but I remember the cast looked pretty impressive. David Soul, who else? You've got to make me look it up now. I think David Soul was in the original. Is he still alive? I don't know.

I don't know. Who was the guy who played Aquaman, guys? Help me out here. Jason Moeller? Jason Moa. To be the vampire. Why not? Flamboyant vampire.

I saw him in something. What did I see Jason Mamoa in the other day? He was in a trailer. I think before Beetlejuice. Minecraft. Yeah, that's right. Phillips's going to be there on opening day. I kind of want to watch it.

Jason Mamoa, Jack Black. Uh-huh. Jack Black, right? Yeah, you kind of have. had me sold at Jason Mamoa and Jack Black, but I haven't actually seen the trailer for it, but just looking at the pictures, I'm like, what the fuck is this? Your kids are going to love it. I know nothing about Minecraft, and my daughter was just kind of like, what is happening right now.

Well, they waited two years too long for one thing, right? I mean, Minecraft was huge. Is it still huge? Yeah. Okay. Well, let's see. Sam's Lot. Written and directed by Gary Doberman, who's worked on. Annabelle comes home.

It, Chapter 2, he wrote. Huh, okay. He wrote both It movies. And this stars Lewis Pullman, Alphrey Wooder, William Spadellar. Hmm. The guy The guy from Game of Thrones

The Greyjoy, the uncle Oh The old man No, the one that Backstack Not Charles. Not Charles Dance. The one that tried to take over the Yeah, the

The weird one. Yeah. Well, I guess they were all kind of weird. But he just like popped up at the end Like some crazy fucking pirate. Yeah, that. that guy. That's a guy.

Crazy pirate. That's the best way to put him. He's in the movie. So cast is not bad. It is produced by James Wan. Oh, wow. In that case. Produced.

All right. I'll watch it. I mean, it's a good movie to have a remake of. But it's not a good sign that they've been jacking it around this long. and then just stick it on showtime. Well, it's, it's Warner Bros. Well, it's on Max. Yeah.

It's Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers doesn't necessarily seem to know what they're doing most of the time. It seems that way. All right, that's the news. All right. What's next? Trailers? Yeah, did Lance leave us?

I think Lance left us. He's dog was barking. Let's go on down to the news. the trailer park all right first trailer we're going to talk about is the rosemary's baby prequel

apartment 7a is that what this is yes oh okay starring uh julia garner and diane weist is it diane weist

is it weist or west it's got an i in it does it yeah i e S-T. Oh, that's weird. I don't know, but I know who she is. Yeah.

She'll always be the mom from the Lost Boys. Oh, yeah, okay. I mean, I know she's an Academy Award-winning actress, but she's always going to be the mom from Lost Boys. Oh, it does have an eye in it. Dane Weist? Weist. What do you think of Apartment 7A?

You know, I thought it looked very Rosemary's baby-ish. I kind of wasn't super-duper interested while I was watching it until it gets towards the end of the trailer. And then I was like, oh, okay. Well, maybe there is a cool angle to this if they're going to go that route. At first, I thought it was just, you know, weird old people tormenting this girl. I was like, I kind of don't give a shit. But I'm down. I'll watch it.

What do you think, Lance? Parvant 7A. Prequel to Rosemary's baby. Well, see, okay, I got a funny story. Sorry. So AJ was watching. It gets going to come on Paramount, right? Direct to Paramount? Or other means. She was watching the trailer and she's like, hey, have you heard about this apartment 7?8? This looks really cool. And then you get kind of toward the end of it. That demon shows up between her legs that's rising up or whatever. And she's like, what is this? I said, it's the prequel to Rosemary's baby. And she stopped the trailer.

She said, no, I'm out. As you guys know, anything. to do with demons or demonology AJ's like way out so that's my favorite ones man no no that's too bad because it sounds like the trailer caught her attention it did catch her attention it looks like it's for

women a little bit you know what I mean like that lifetime movie at the beginning of the trailer I was like man why do I want to watch this and then the demons pop up and I'm like is this the character that dies in the beginning of Rosemary's baby

Oh, I forgot about that. You mean, like the old lady? Diane Weist. Yeah, she is, I didn't even recognize her because she's, you know, creepy. She's got, she's doing an accent, and then when it flashed her name,

I was like, oh, that is her. Yeah, and then he got Ruth from Ozark, and I think she's in the next trailer, we're going to talk about, too, if I think I kind of glimpse up. That's who that is. It didn't even. and clip. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So...

I mean, I'll watch it just to be a completist, but I'm not, like, super sold on it. Yeah, I was expecting a little more when I heard about they were doing this movie, but I do like the cast. The only problem with the prequel, is you already know where it's gone

at the end. Yeah, I know. Yeah, kind of like the... What was it? The first omen or whatever, you know? Yeah. But I... I, I, I, I am curious about what happened to this girl that they talked about. Right.

And Rosemary's Baby, because I do spend, I think the last time we, when we talked about it for the show, I think this is the last time I've seen it. So I just remember they were talking about her and I was curious about her story. So, speaking of Tim Burton and Winona Ryder, she was in Edward Cisorhands, Diane. waste waste whatever that's right she was the mom yeah much younger yeah quirky very quirky she brings him home as you do when you find a guy with scissors hands with scissors you bring him home to the family and a pure haircut oh that's true yeah all right uh apartment 7a is coming to paramount

plus september 27 Okay. Maybe we'll work it into the 31 days or something. All right. And continuing with our Julia Garner week here of trailers. Lee Wannell's Wolfman, of course, starring Julia Garner and Christopher Abbott. Last time we seen Christopher Abbott on the show, it was for a possessor. Mm-hmm. I remember that. He is actually replacing Ryan Gosling was originally in the movie, but he had to drop out.

Okay. Talk about a big dip in Star Power. Holy shit, dude. But I think he's still a producer on it. Is he? Okay. I mean, that's like going from Nicholas Cate, losing Nicholas Cage and settling for Dane to Haunt or something, Brian. I mean, I guess

I'm not the biggest Ryan Gosling fan Well, I'm not a big Brian Gosling fan So it's not a big drop to me Gotcha All right, well What'd you guys think of Wolfman? I'm interested to see what they're going to do With the universe, aren't you, Philip?

Yeah, I thought the trailer looked pretty good, actually I was kind of impressed with it I was like, oh, this is like what Wolfman was supposed to be, maybe. And Lee Wannell, he did The Invisible Man. Yeah, right. So. Yeah.

And that was good. So, yeah, I was, I was kind of worried. I saw the poster for it, Brian, and I thought it looked kind of young adult. Like, is the kid going to be the Wolfman? Right. Really? Like, a fucking 12-year-old kid, but I like what they're doing it. It kind of looks like Christopher Abbott's character is the Wolfman.

That's what it looks like. Yeah. That's what it looks like. doesn't know that he's the wolf man because he's talking about he needs to protect his family and maybe he doesn't know he's changing i can see that uh we're gonna have a wolf out moment getting wolfy with it yeah that's gonna be the big selling point is the transformation yeah that's always yeah that's what tells the difference it's been a good wear wolf movie and a bad one right so you think they're going practical or a cg i

We can hope. It's got to be practical, right? No, it doesn't have to be. Doesn't have to be. I guess that's true. It is Blumhouse, isn't it? Or no, it's straight up universal, right? It's both.

Okay, well. But I'm just saying what we've seen with Lee Wunel, what else has he done? He's written the Saw movies. He's directed the movie upgrade. Yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. So,

I think it's going to be mostly practical with some CGI mixed in. Yeah. I just hope they don't completely cover it because I just seen a, what was that movie we reviewed? Alien Romulus.

Yeah. The big tall alien that she gives birth to at the end, that was all practical. Oh, really? So much CGI on top of it. why would they do that man that's like the thing prequel they did well i've seen it behind the scenes video on youtube and the guy that is in the prosthetics and makeup is a former basketball player he's

like actually that tall oh okay and it looked pretty it looked cool to me the way he looked yeah but then when you see it on screen you just think they've added so much cgii to it Well, they over did it. And one of the things I don't think that we talked about when we did that movie was the CGI of the Android guy, where they put that actor's face on there and it looked awful. I don't, I don't think they, I don't, honestly, now thinking back to it, I don't think they needed to have him. It didn't even need to look like this. It wasn't the same Android. It didn't need to look like the same Android.

Why not just put somebody else on there? Okay, I didn't have a huge problem with it because it was an android and not a human. So if it was a little bit untanny valley looking, I'm not too mad at it. Yeah. Yeah, just get like, they should have, I know that we're not talking about Wolfman, but I know that maybe they should have got like Michael Bean or somebody. Or Mr. Bean. If I have an android, I want him to look like Mr. Bean.

That sounds amazing. You know, my daughter thought that was his real name. Did she? Is it not? Rowan Atkinson is just... Yeah, I was like... It was like, it's Rowan Atkinson. She was like, he has a name.

Actually, that's not true. If I have an android, I wanted to look like Jessica Alba, but that's a different story. Ah, yeah, I get that. Or Salma Hayek about the time that, uh... The vampire movie came out. Yeah. There you go. All right.

Wolfman hits theaters January 17th. I'm down. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. I hope we see very little of the wolf, werewolf until the movie, which I feel like they'll hit us with a trailer

revealing him the week before. Yeah. Probably. All right. Listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on Hellraiser's. Hellraiser's is a podcast co-hosted, co-hosted by horror-loving siblings. Co-Josted.

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I know. It's a good one. I was like, damn, Hellraisers is good. In regards to the new crow. Stephen Loblad says watch the newest trailer for the new one doesn't look too bad.

Insert Lances review here. In regards to Hellhole, Matt Wood says I'll be watching this later. What is Hillhole? The one I talked about a couple weeks ago with the parasite hiding in people. Oh. That sounds fun.

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Okay In regards to Drum Dums review of cutting class David Bartis says, nice review. I enjoyed this one. You can always count on Tuby as a place to find hidden gems. So true.

Is this the one with, it was like an early Brad Pitt movie from the 80s? Oh, really? I think he was in a slasher movie in the 80s. Was he the slasher? I haven't seen cutting class in like 20 years, so I don't even remember.

Hmm. Brad Pitt. I doubt it. but be fun if he is. I gotta look at it up. With a robotic leg. In regards to the Alien 3 poster, Lee Jones

says, this is cool, never seen it before. Yeah, Alien 3 had some pretty cool artwork. Yeah, I think so. And an underrated movie, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Is it? I think so, yeah. I enjoyed it.

Well, it's better than some of those other Alien movies. If Brad Pitt was in cutting class. There you go. 1989. Good call. There you have it, Brian.

There you have it. Look at the big brain on Brian. What a big cahoonaburger. In regards to the covenant, Michael Pryzerus says pretty cool story. I believe Sebastian Stan was pretty young.

I think he was. I think that came out early 2000s. Mm-hmm. I don't remember that. I was starting to like Sebastian Stan, man. He's pretty good. Have you guys seen the trailer where he's like disfigured? No.

Like an A-24 movie and he gets like surgery and he basically gets his face back and there's another guy who has the same disfigurement as him, but he's like popular. for the way he looks like people are like more sympathetic to that's a very twisted storyline I thought you were going to say

he gets Nicholas Cage's face no we got to wait for face off too faces off Brian faces off two face they're going to be like

75 year old men oh boy But it was an interesting trailer. I forgot what it's called. I know it's an A-24 movie. Okay. Interesting. In regards to Wolfman, Martin Redactor Creatif.

I'm sorry, dude, I butcher your name. Come on. Good job. Good job. The 2010 movie was enough and very good. I mean, I like Benicio D'Otoe, but. This is a little overdone on the CGI. Yeah, I'm not

mad that they're redoing it. Of all the creature movies, I'm not mad that they're redoing this one. Let's see. In regards to the new, I know what you did last summer. Ray Cannington says no. Just no.

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Beetlejuice, beetle juice, and Beetlejuice, and Beetlejuice, do not do that to us, Philo. Not make you shit to do that movie again. All right, so we'll start with the original Beetlejuice. Instead of Beetlejuice, beetle juice. Oh shit. From the director of Peewee's big adventure, Adam and Barbara are

ghosts. What's the good of being a ghost if you can't fright people away? Their house is being haunted by the living. Maybe the house could use. a little remodeling. And they can't scare them into leaving. They're dead. It's a little late to be neurotic. So they're calling on Beetlejuice.

Beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle juice. Who's no ordinary ghost. You don't want his help. Can you be scary? What do you think of this? Now the party's over. You want somebody out of the house? I want to get somebody out of your house.

But the fun has just begun. The spirits of a deceased couple are harassed by an unbearable family that has moved into their home and hire a malicious spirit to drive them out. Director, of course, is Tim Burton, also known for Dark Shadows and Corpse Bride and a litany of other stuff. Writers are Michael McDowell. Oh, I didn't know that. Larry Wilson and Warren Scarin. The studio wanted to call the film House Ghosts.

As a joke, Tim Burton suggested the name, scared, sheetless, and was horrified when the studio actually considered using it. Michael Keaton ad-libbed 90% of his lines. Wow. That makes a lot of sense. It is prime. Brian, would you think about the original Beetlejuice? Classic.

This was one of those movies. I watched this a lot as a kid. so many quotable lines I got in trouble for doing the what was it nice fucking model honk honk cast is amazing Michael Keaton knocks it out the park

reading that trivia that he ad-lib 90% of his lines I felt like this was Michael Keaton yeah this wasn't somebody else you write the lines and it shows right I love the use of practical effects.

I love the use of stop motion. Yeah. Which we'll talk about that one in the next movie. But it was very eerie and weird for that little time period when they do the stop motion stuff, you know? Yeah, this is 100% Tim Burton. Yes. If anybody ever wanted to know what Tim Burton's style of filmmaking is, I would always tell them watch Beetlejuice. And Nightmarever before Christmas.

Nightmare of them. You can even say Edward Scissorhands, because that one was less horror, more fantasy, but still had that Tim Burton feel. Because that time period, he was just knocking it out the park. Could do no wrong. And then he hired Johnny Depp, but things went downhill. Well, Edward Scissorhanz. Well, true, true. A very young Johnny Depp, right?

I mean, what else did he have before? I mean, Dark Shadows was not good. Yeah. Right. The one, Sweeney Todd. Ah, not too bad. That's not good because they're singing in it. Yeah, that's true.

That's why I kind of liked it. I don't know, man. Johnny Depp either nails it or he sucks. Yeah, depends on whether he had his heroin fix for the day, huh? Yeah, I guess. Well, it just seems like he just stopped doing these movies where he has to act. And it's more like he's just putting on a costume and being weird on camera. 100%.

100%. I mean, you would think that he, at this point, he probably has enough money that he can just do these lower budget movies where he's, you know, got to put in a performance. But instead, he just gets a paycheck and puts on a costume and gets all wacky. grabs the sword and a bottle of rum and puts a monkey on his back makes him millions of dollars but yeah the cast is great in here alec Baldwin Gina Davis Catherine O'Hare

Winona Ryder gonna leave certain guy off of here Pito Pete I'm gonna leave Chester off of here He always looked like one too Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, it gives a whole new meeting to that scene where he's trying to sneak in the bathroom when the girl's taking a shower in Ferris Bueller, huh? Yep.

Oh, with his little pet o' stash. Yeah. But, yeah, Beetlejuice is a classic. I mean, so many classic scenes. What is it, the Harry Belafonte's song that used for the dinner scene. That's a classic scene. Yeah, that was great. And this was Peak, Winona Ryder.

Yes. I got to bring that up for Nez because he is a Winona Ryder fan. This was like when she was at the top, but she was in everything. And she played this role perfect, you know, the little sarcastic,

little smart-ass, little goth girl. Sure. Emo chick. This might be my favorite role. roll from her. You think? I think so. I could see that. Yeah, I would have to agree. She did disappear for a minute, but then

Stranger Things brought her back. Yeah. But yeah, Beetlejuice, classic movie. All right. Lance. Yeah, on this watching, I'd kind of forgotten a couple of scenes, like, you know, the scene at the beginning when they, you know, they crashed through the covered bridge

there and land in the water. and I guess that's when they die. I'd kind of forgotten about that. I always felt like they could have got out of that situation. You would think so, dude. They were going like, what, 10 miles an hour? They were like a wooden... 10 miles per hour.

For real? I felt like they had time to get out the car before it fell over, and I also felt like that water wasn't that deep. Not really. Well, they say you can drown in like one foot of water, right? If your head gets submerged. So, who knows?

But that is kind of weird. It is kind of weird. I'd forget about the scene where he comes on, like a Joe Bob Briggs used car salesman type where he's saying, Army! You know, and he's got the rocking horse. He gets his cowboy gear going and his lasso. I wonder if that was improvised. I'm sure it was 100% ad-lib, don't you guys think?

That was pretty cool. Yeah, there were a lot of little scenes in this that I was like, okay, these are kind of like little treasures that I hadn't noticed before. And then you got the one guy that's coming through that's, I guess, like her interior decorator. It gives it the spray paint. Otho, it gives it the spray paint can and they just put X's in the house.

And I see this in Mov. Oh, no, this has to be, you know, lime green or whatever. Yeah, he was saying some colors I had never heard of. That was a good scene. Yeah, there was a lot in this movie that, like, it's kind of like I was seeing it for the first time. time because I'd see that before and I think Brian you said this was a rewatch for our show huh I wonder what we rated it the first time yeah I don't think we really rated it because I think it was a kid's Halloween episode so we didn't really talk about it okay that makes sense so probably the kids talked about it more than us but yeah yeah this it's it's one of those movies that's kind of like I don't I don't want to give too much away about the new one, but I'll say that

this one was very much of its time, but it kind of could have been made now, I think, or like any other time. And then they've got like some things that I thought they were going to answer in the sequel or come back to, like the lost souls when they pull that shade down when they were in the

end of the world. So those people are like, that's where the dead go to die or something like that. Yeah, the room of lost souls. Yeah, the room of lost souls. So that, I thought that was going to come back more than it did, But, you know, you've got some really quirky characters like, you know, the football players, coach. I don't think we survived that crash.

That's a famous line. That waiting room was fantastic. The waiting room is fantastic, man. It's a good movie. It's a lot of fun. It doesn't take itself too seriously. And knowing that Michael Keaton ad-lib 90% of it only makes me love it all the more. Yeah.

And I like this story in this one. It's very, like, linear. And they give you the ghosts that you're following through. They're your protagonist. But they're like normal people. And the living people that move into their house are the fucking crazies, right? Right. And so you're going at this movie through the angle of the normal ghosts,

navigating this whole new weird world with wild-ass people in it. Yeah, I like that aspect. I don't know hair is amazing in this. Yeah. She's great and just about everything. I will take you with me. I felt like we already went there when we met your character. She's pretty awesome.

I love her. But yeah, man, this one is a classic for sure. And it's a, it's an every year watch for Halloween. Yeah. Ah, that's strong words. Yeah, great movie, man. All right. Scores, Brian?

I have to give it a 10. Fuck. I honestly, I couldn't tell you nothing bad about it. I mean, nothing wrong, I could deduct points for a certain chomo. Yeah, but, man, he had a couple of roles that are pretty great. Yeah, I got to separate art from art. artists I guess situation so right I can't take on take nothing away from that hey I saw listen to Michael Jackson this is but it's G for scraper six right I don't

think we'll ever for view no can't separate on that no no the fact that that guy is still allowed to work pretty rough oh I bet you if we knew more about Hollywood nobody being yeah Jeffrey Epstein was just the beginning. The tip of the iceberg. Yeah, Beetlejuice, classic movie, quotable, great cast, classic scenes. So I have to give it a 10.

All right. Lance? I'll give it an eight. You know, I really enjoyed it. It's one that I want to see more often because, like I said, there was some stuff in it that I hadn't remembered. I love the effects, like when they were stretching their faces out to look scary. got the beat going and the eyes

and they pull the eyes out and the fingers and all that. That was really original. I don't think I've ever seen that in any other movie. So that's pretty cool. I like it. And I like the I like the little statues that, what is her name? Lydia?

The one that Moira plays? Oh, Delia. Delia? Okay, I'm getting the names mixed up. I like her artwork. It's really kind of like super. I like that it came well. came alive at the end. Yeah.

Yeah. Like dragging the brick behind the block and everything. That was definitely a good effect and a lot of stop motion. So, yeah, eight out of ten's a fair score, you know. It's definitely up there. Although she strikes me as the kind of person that would make like a giant vagina sculpture or something, you know? Yes. I bet she has.

We don't know. She might have already made one. Imagine that. sucker coming to life. Oh, I got a real quick shout out Robert Goulet. Yes, yes. All right. That was like my grandma's favorite

back in the day. Very swan. A little Robert Goulet cameo in there at the end. Yeah, man, I love this movie. Michael Keaton killed it. Everybody pretty much killed it. to watch a movie from the 80s and it still holds up is pretty awesome i think i'm going to give this one a nice nice nice and this was peak 80s because they had stuff in there that wouldn't be a pj 13 movie now

like the the horror house oh i remember that completely going over my head as a kid. But when I got a little bit older, I'm like, ah. Yeah. Did you ever see the cartoon? Yeah. I don't think you ever have. The whole series is on Tooby. Oh, really? Okay. Of course it is. Of course it is.

It's not bad. It's like Lydia and Beetlejuice and they're just kind of doing their thing. Yeah. She's going on high school or whatever. Is it kind of adult-oriented or? No. Very much for kids. Yeah. I think it's pretty much for kids. Yeah.

All right. On to the next one. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. The juice is loose. Let's see. After a family tragedy, three generations of the Dietz family returned to the home, return home to Winter River. Still haunted by Beetlejuice, Lydia's life has turned upside down when her teenage daughter Astrid, good name, accidentally opens a portal to the afterlife. Was it a tragedy?

More like a celebration. That wasn't his voice. I can tell you that, in the shark costume or the... That definitely wasn't his voice. I'm really surprised they even used his picture. They used his like us a lot. Like they went overboard with it. Like posters, paintings, pictures.

Maybe they were just trying to give him some residuals or something. I guess. Who knows? I guess. Director, of course, is Tim Burton. Writers are Miles Miler, Alfred Goh, and Seth Graham Smith. There you go. There's our guys. Tim Burton said that this film would only be made if Michael Keaton would return to reprise his role. Keaton said in March of 2014 that this is the only sequel he's interested in doing. All right.

I guess no Batman for Michael Keaton. They're not going to do a multiverse with the with the with the oh that's right. Was he in that one? He wasn't in that one. Yeah. He was using the flash. I was going to say I think he popped up for a second, didn't he? Yeah, but that's technically not a sequel.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Cameo. All right. All right. Brian, what did you think about Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice? I had a lot of fun with it. this one it felt like coming back home really you had a lot of the original cast in there a lot of callbacks a couple of extra little musical numbers was kind of a surprise to me that there's quite a few

in here monica balucci m'ma she can suck your soul out anytime yes good way to go Death by snooes, too. I liked all the little cameos in here. We can talk about one because it was already spoiled. Danny DeVito. Yeah, plus it's at the very beginning. Yeah, that's not spoiling much. Interesting role for Jenna Ortega,

because it's not necessarily the way I thought her character was going to be. I thought she was going to be pretty much a carbon copy of Winona Raider. writer's character from the first one, but she wasn't. I kind of like that. Yeah, she almost played it kind of normal. Yeah. Catherine O'Hare was great again. Michael Keaton.

I did have problems, though, because they kind of said this was going to be all practicals, which I'm sure it was, but the added CGI parts. Way too much. Yeah. A little too much for me. And we'll

I think some of the stop motion with CGI also. Yeah, I was going to say that there was, it didn't, it didn't hold up to the original stop motion that they used. But I don't make movies, so I don't know if it's like really a budget thing that they do the CGIs. Maybe it's just way cheaper now to do it that way. Yeah, they were like, we can spend a whole day jacking with this thing or this guy can do it over here in 10 minutes. yeah yeah kind of

of some of the love though when you did a couple characters in here I thought we're going to show up

kind of kind of bum they didn't show up but I guess we got an explanation on where some

of them are okay but overall I had a lot of fun with this one man I so yeah

I you know went went to the theater and started watching the movie and I don't know

like you know you're getting you're getting to see the characters again, which is cool, but I started getting a little bit bored, like in the first part. I'm like, well, this thing needs to go somewhere. And then once you get to the point, there's a certain scene where there's a character on a bicycle, and I thought for sure that character was going to, like, go to the afterlife because they were going to get

run over or something like that. Well, they did. Well, once that character meets up with someone else. Like, to me, the movie kind of became like a roller coaster ride after that. And like, one of the best lines in the movie I felt was when, I forgot who said it. Maybe you guys remember they said, boy, this afterlife is really random.

You guys catch that line? That was her. Okay. So that was, yeah, I really look, it's Saturday. Okay, so I will say there was a little part. It was a little bit to me, I thought,

kind of easy for me to figure out what was going on with one character. I picked up on it the minute that character was kind of introduced. But other than that, there were so many weird, wacky and crazy things. There were so many different storylines that were like

intertwining. Brian mentioned there were some musical numbers that I didn't expect to see. There were like some just goofy, weird stuff that was going on. And you're not in, you know, you're not on planet Earth. You're like in a different dimension so you can get way with a lot of weird stuff.

So just like Brian, I had like a blast with this movie. I was shocked with how much I enjoyed this. The CG I got a little, you know, little hokey. Yeah. Whereas if it had been just kind of like that creepy, just straight, you know, what they call it, motion capture or whatever. Stop motion. Yeah, stop motion.

Yeah, stop motion. If it had been just stuck to that, I think it might have been a little creepier. and maybe they could have added a little bit more shadowing or whatever, but that's really getting nitpicky. I mean, it was a lot of fun. Michael Keaton was back in full form. There was another character we met that was sort of like a police officer, or was this a police officer, that I got a blast out of that character.

I enjoyed it. I love the music. I love the intro when you're going through the city, and then you're showing the models, and then it shows, you know, the actual town, and then you go through the models. Kind of like the beginning of heredity. where it's a dollhouse and then it goes out of the window and you're in a real room and then you're in a

dollhouse again. Kind of like that, but I love the Elfman score because he took the original Beatles you score and he like jazzed it up, like getting a lot of keyboards and electronic music and stuff to it. And I just, I love that opening sequence. I love the end, what they did, you know, kind of sort of after the credit, sort of not, not like it's an extra scene or anything like that. But yeah, this was a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be. I was kind of worried that it wasn't going to be as much fun as the first one. And I don't know if it holds up quite as well as the original, but everybody kind of gave it everything they had.

You could tell they had a lot of fun making it for sure. I might be a little bit of the odd man out on this one, man. I thought it was a little bit. Somebody's got to be. Yeah, I thought it was a little bit boring. I didn't hate Michael Keaton. I liked him. You know, you bring him back.

his role and he kind of nailed it but like what do you think about just in thoreau the douchebag i actually like that character i thought that was funny um but uh yeah so i i i don't think he nailed it quite as good as he did in the in the original beetle juice you know not not as manic maybe yeah yeah not as manic maybe it was just you know he's because he's like 70 something right so he didn't quite have the same stuff behind him Winona Ryder had this sort of like the same expression on her face through the whole movie It started getting on my nerves

Maybe it was those pills Yeah Well she was a little bit of a different character Yeah Because not really a spoiler But Catherine O'Hare's character Dahlia Kind of says I remember when you used to be

is a little smart ass. I was always messing with me when you were younger. Why don't want you to go back to being that? Yeah, but she's got like this speech pattern thing that's like not, it's definitely not her best work. It's like, what happened to Winona Ryder, man? Getting on your nerves a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

Yeah, the mom was amazing. I loved her. She killed it through the whole movie. I thought that, you know, Monica Bluch. she was in this and she was great for what she did. But if you take her out of the movie, it doesn't change a fucking thing. Yeah, there's a lot of storylines like that, right? A lot of weird storylines.

It's kind of all over the place. There's a lot of different storylines going on. And none of them really make a whole lot of sense. Not them have a lot of payout, right? Right. None of them have a lot of, like, they tried to do too much. And that's part of why I said that, you know, the original Beatles'use had such a linear storyline and you're and you're relating to this character and going through this wild and crazy

world and then now there's like all these characters left and right and they're all popping up and it's just you know one scene to the next scene to the next scene and they're all different and it doesn't matter you know i kept i kept it's not a very coherent story i thought captain jack sparrow was going to pop out at one point i'll put it to you that way wouldn't it surprise me a whole lot Edward says her hands hanging out down there in the underworld. Like a dad, Captain Jack. And we'll talk about some of the other cameos, I guess, and spoilers. But, yeah, man, I was really looking forward to this, and I was a little bit disappointed.

Hmm. See, I wasn't expecting much, and I had fun. So maybe that was the X factor. That happens. Yeah. All right. Scores. Brian, do I think.

I'll probably end up rewatching this, but right now this is an easy seven and a half for me. Nice. Lance? Seven and a half. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, I really had fun, man. I really enjoyed it.

That scene with the Cape. The preacher and the, you know. The musical numbers also were weird choices. That's what I was. AJ said, she said, they picked weird music. Yeah, like that's not like, man. Well, I know, but like in the original, you know, they're doing the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's so. It's so. Nails it, you know, it's like, it fits so perfectly. It's great. Yeah, I could see that. And then they throw this song, because it's just, because that song was just weird. It was weird and quirky in a lot's for situation. It's Tim Burton.

Yeah. It probably made a lot of sense to him. They throw this stupid song in there, and I was like, is this scene going to end? It did go on for a while. Had you liked the musical transitions, though, when it would show the scene out in the graveyard where somebody was running toward,

that was kind of cool. That was kind of cool. It's not that they did a bad job. It was just a strange song choice. Yeah, it was. And that other cameo was another character who, if he wasn't in the movie, it would have made zero difference, although I'm glad he was.

Right. Yeah, me too. I'm going to give it a six. Ah, okay, not bad. Not bad. No, I didn't, yeah, I didn't hate it. I was just a little bit disappointed. Not mad, I'm just disappointed.

Fair enough. All right, spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

I was a little bummed. There were neither one of the Maitlands were in here. Gina Davis and Alec Baldwin. Oh, yeah. I was kind of surprised they weren't. Well, I think maybe they're just older, or maybe they just didn't want to do it or something. But, I mean, they did explain that they found a loophole

and that their characters were able to move on. which is a happy ending for them right so yeah you know but i would at least you know can we can we get otho in there for some reason like he's still hanging around is he still alive right seems like he would have shown up i don't know like he would have shown up right i mean he can commune with the dead right so yeah so they say you were talking about that scene at the end lance with the cake. Yeah, I thought that was,

that was my favorite part of the movie, Brian. A good musical number, dude. You got me. You had me a musical number. And then it was, I don't know, it was kind of like a throwback to the banana boat,

like, were they, you know, kind of were being possessed to sing and stuff like that. Yeah, I love their reaction. I love their reactions on their faces.

Like, what the fuck is going on? Yes. Why am I doing this? Yeah. I thought for sure they were really going to get married. And then they had that other kind of,

kind of flashback or that that see the dream sequence at the end where she wakes up next to beetle juice i'm like is this real so she really did marry him and like that other scene was i don't know that it was just like philip said it was kind of all over the place right like well jenna or tega did a great job i'll give her that yeah yeah and she wasn't like brian said she wasn't a carbon copy of her mom because i thought she was just giving me like the goth girl like Wednesday. But she was obviously, you know, a different character. And the trailer kind of fooled us, right?

The trailer Ropa doped us into thinking she was going to be, because that scene at the beginning with the preppy girls in the school picking on her and all that. But she didn't believe it. She said, all that ghost talk is all bullshit. All nonsense, right? How did you guys feel about Willem Defoe as Wolf Jackson? Fucking loved him.

Loved him. Philip, Philip was right. If he hadn't been in there, it would have been the same exact plot line. But it was sure fun to see him in there. I loved his secretary. He kept bringing him coffee for no damn reason. Super hot secretary.

And she was, you're not a detective, you're an actor. Yes. Right? That's exactly where I was going. And he was like, oh yeah, thanks for bringing me back. I'm surprised Willem Defoe hasn't been. Ben and more Tim Burton's stuff. Like, I feel like that he's been

perfectly together. Well, he's too busy doing the Yorgo's Yamathamas stuff or whatever, that terrible Greek director that I hate. He's in every fucking movie he does. He's going to be in that Nosferatu. Yeah. Now,

that's pretty good casting, I think, you know? I will have those pretty great and everything, though. Who else? Gotta say it again. Monica Boulucci. she ages like a fine wine. Yeah, man. How old is she? She's in her 60 something.

Yeah, I think she's about to be 60. Good night. Still would, dude. 100%. Right? I did like the effects of when she sucked the souls out of everybody. They would like squeeze, like shrink up into a little meat sack thing. Yeah, that was very Tim Burtony.

Then she sucked the soul out of Bob. Yeah. I was rooting for Bob I know I did I did kind of like those guys I thought that that that whole stick was kind of funny especially when they

when they get out and start running around and down so did there's a couple of unanswered questions so did they ever go back uh good point we're just in the town and what happened to the people that got sucked into their cell phones

also true that should have been the after credit scene Like, you have one of those random little bobs running around. See, I think that cell phone scene was kind of like pointing the mirror back on ourselves. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, this is what you guys are all doing to yourselves, you know? You're getting sucked into it.

I don't know. Maybe he didn't mean anything deep by it. Maybe he just thought it looked cool. Who knows? I like that Justin Thoreau ended up being the bad guy because he was such a smarmy little bitch in this movie. The fruit serum? Yeah. I'm looking it up here.

It says Rory was inspired by the Otho character. Oh, really? Yeah. I can't really see that, but okay. Sure. Well, I guess that kind of makes sense. But he... Right.

Like, the Otho character was obviously a fraud, but he was funny. Oh, I like this. Gen Ortega character was... Astrid was on to him. When he was at the... at the wake and he was like i wrote a poem and she was like oh let's hear it yeah rolling her eyes it's not it's not like i memorized it's and i actually i didn't mind the kid that she ran into i thought he he did a pretty good job

although that storyline was very predictable did you guys see it coming as soon as i did that he's obviously a ghost i saw i knew that he was a ghost i just didn't think he was trying to swap lives with her. Yeah. Right. It was kind of a Ghostbusters Frozen Empire storyline, right? Because I knew when he introduced her

to the parents and how they were kind of odd. Yeah. Right. And they wouldn't show their faces. You're like, oh, they're definitely dead. Yeah. Well, at first I thought they were alive

and they didn't hear him because six cents, I think. Oh, that makes sense. You know. Well, then why would they not? recognize her or say something about her being in the house. True, true. Yeah. So I knew there was something up there.

I just didn't see that he was murdered his parents and died, climbing up a tree, broke his neck. Beetlejuice got rid of him pretty quick, though, didn't he? See, that's what I was, they didn't have time to flesh out anything. Like, every story was just like. Damn, here's quick story. Bam, here's another one. Yeah.

Like he was on a lot of cocaine or something, right? Yeah. There's going to be a sandworm, man. It's coming through the fucking rings of Saturn. It'll be great. Let's see. When asked about a potential sequel or potential third movie, Burton said, let's do the math.

It took 35 years to do this one, so I'll be over 100. But I guess it's possible with the advent of science these days, but I don't think so. Great quote. They're going to have an AI version of Tim Burton. And as soon as he dies, he'll do another Beetlejuice. And Johnny Depp, huh?

Yeah. Well, James Earl Jones just died. Yes. Yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. But Disney has the rights to his voice. Yeah, because they used him in one of the Star Wars movies.

Yeah. Well, like an AI point. That was his deal he made. Well, yeah, it is. And I'm sure his family will. We'll get money from it. But it's weird because he's dead. And they're still going to

show some AI version of his voice out there. I know. I know. Creepy. It is a little. Skynet stuff, man. Yeah. We're getting there.

All right. Y'all think we covered this movie enough? Yeah, I think we covered it. Let's see. It's already off of one weekend as box office, 153 million. over the weekend. There you go.

Not Marvel or Star Wars numbers, but it's up there. See, and Monica Baluchy, I was sort of disappointed in her character because she didn't really do anything. She didn't get naked, god damn it. Why know? She was in the movie for like a total of five minutes, and all she did was suck the souls out of some people. She did it so good.

No real point to it. Well, we kind of got the origin of. Beetlejuice how he died. That was fun. That was pretty cool. We was talking in Latin or whatever. Yeah, it went immediately into subtitles. Right. Yes, Beetlejuice has been around a while, huh?

Yeah. All right. Well, and speaking of being around, we've been around a while. We're creeping up on what episode 433? Is that what this one is, Brian? We've really been around that long? I don't know. We're doing this thing every week.

433, yes. Wow. It's been so many. Seems like only yesterday we were doing 420, but I digress. So we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. Check us out at thehorrorreturns.com. We love your ideas, your feedback, and your patron. So thanks a lot.

Next week we're going to watch a movie that was made a couple of years ago and then already an American remake, Brian? Is that right? Yep, the original came out in 22. Oh, wow. Jesus Christ. Oh, that's right. This one.

All right. But I am hearing good things about the new one, especially. James McAvoy, dude. James McAvoy's performance. Yeah, can't go wrong with him. Well, we'll get to compare him side by side next week. So be sure to join us for that. Any guest next week, Brian?

I thought we had somebody for some reason. I don't know. If you're supposed to be a guest on here, I guess shoot us a reminder. There you go. We'll figure it out more then. All right, man. On that note, I guess Philip

until the horror returns again. Good night.